Jan 1 - 3 2003

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6569 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6570 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Iusiurandum Titi Labieni Fortunati
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6571 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: The Roman New Year
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6572 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: My internet connection
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6573 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: The Consular Oath of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6574 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Tribunis Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6575 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath Of Office: Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6576 From: Daniel Dreesbach Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Fwd: Re: [ComitiaCuriata] Sample text for the vesting of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6577 From: Sp. Postumius Tubertus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Concerning the Past Year
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6578 From: Chantal G. Whittington Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6579 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Propraetoricium LXIV about the appointment of the Prolegatu
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6580 From: rexmarciusnr Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office - Tribune
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6581 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Best wishes to our new magistrates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6582 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office: Curator Araneum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6583 From: Legion XXIV Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Rogator for NovaRoma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6584 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Curatorum I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6585 From: Cheri Henderson Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Oath of Office: Curator Araneum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6586 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Senior Consul's Beginning of the year Address, MMDCCLVI A.U.C
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6587 From: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6588 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda (The F
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6589 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Consulare CFQ II de Nominationibus in Cohorte Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6590 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third Con
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6591 From: Sp. Postumius Tubertus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6592 From: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Accensus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6593 From: Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: A note on "salve...vale", or how to write a Roman letter
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6594 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senior Consul's Beginning of the year Address, MMDCCLVI A.U.C
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6595 From: Julilla Sempronia Magna Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath: Accensa Senior Tertia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6596 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: My internet connection
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6597 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senior Consul's Beginning of the year Address, MMDCCLVI A.U.C
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6598 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Petitor (Accensus Iunior)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6599 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Scriba Curatoris Differium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6600 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as tribunus plebis. Juramento como tribuno de la plebe
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6601 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6602 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6603 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Curule Aedilean oath of office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6604 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: OBSERVE: Oaths by Appiatores (Accensi and Scribae)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6605 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Scriba Curatoris Differium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6606 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6607 From: Jonas Nilsson Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Prolegatus Regionis Suecicae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6608 From: G.Porticus Brutis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Muscled Cuirass
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6609 From: G.Porticus Brutis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Muscled Cuirass
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6610 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Accensus Superior Tertius to Consul CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6611 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Investment of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6612 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum I Censoris Octavii: Appointment of Scribae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6613 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6614 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Sacrifice for the New Year
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6615 From: Alejandro Carneiro Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Accensus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6616 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6617 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Muscled Cuirass
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6618 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6619 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Sacrifice for the New Year
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6620 From: Julilla Sempronia Magna Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Scriba Censoris Oath
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6621 From: Julilla Sempronia Magna Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Scriba Curator Araneae Oath
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6622 From: Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Accensus Ordinarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6623 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: My internet connection
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6624 From: Legion XXIV Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Rogator for Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6625 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Primum Consularis Labieni: Accensi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6626 From: Patricia Cassia Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Accensa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6627 From: Patricia Cassia Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Witness to the passing of imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6628 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath: Accensus Ordinarius to Senior Consul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6629 From: Legion XXIV Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Second and Legal Oath as a Rogator for Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6630 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6631 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6632 From: Jonas Nilsson Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of office as Prolegatus Regionis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6633 From: 3s@hsk-net.de Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Witness to the passing of imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6634 From: Manius Constantinus Serapio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Fwd: [Conclavis_Praeparatio_Cohors_Consulis] Please swear the OATH
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6635 From: Manius Constantinus Serapio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6636 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: oath of office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6637 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: our visit to Propraetorium Thules
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6638 From: Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: oath as accensus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6639 From: Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: oath as scriba curatoris differium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6640 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6641 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath as Accensus Superior Quartus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6642 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Iuramenta - Plebeian Aedile
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6643 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Iuramenta - quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6644 From: Cheri Henderson Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Witness to the passing of imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6645 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath as Accensus Ordinarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6646 From: TiAnO Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6647 From: Thomas Gangale Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6648 From: TiAnO Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office - Translator for German
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6649 From: TiAnO Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office - Scriba to the Legatus Germaniae Superioris
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6650 From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Senior Curule Aedile
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6651 From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Accensus Consulis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6652 From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: R: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6653 From: deciusiunius Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6654 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6655 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: R: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6656 From: Thomas Gangale Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium please forward
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6657 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6658 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6659 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6660 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6661 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6662 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6663 From: Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: appointments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6664 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6665 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Eagle Deadline
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6666 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6667 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6668 From: salixdavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6669 From: salixdavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6670 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Appointment of Scribae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6671 From: M. Octavius Solaris Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6672 From: Jonas Nilsson Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of office for Accensi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6673 From: lanius117@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath for Scriba Curatoris Differium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6674 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6675 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6676 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Congratulations
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6677 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6678 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6679 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Congratulations
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6680 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: The Cohors Consulis CFQ and questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6681 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: The Cohors Consulis CFQ and questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6682 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6683 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: the CFQ and questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6684 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6685 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6686 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ II
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6687 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6688 From: Gnaeus Salix Astur Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: [ComitiaCuriata] Sample text for the vesting of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6689 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6690 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6691 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Thanks and compliments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6692 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6693 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6694 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6695 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6696 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6697 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6698 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6699 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6700 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6701 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6702 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Editorial Board for The Eagle.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6703 From: 3s@hsk-net.de Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: About Accensi and Scribae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6704 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6705 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: About the intercessio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6706 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Cohors Consulis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6707 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6708 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tr...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6709 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6710 From: M. Octavius Solaris Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Some remarks from an outside perspective
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6711 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Investment of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6712 From: William Rogers Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6713 From: Manius Constantinus Serapio Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6714 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office - Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6715 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tr...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6716 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tr...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6717 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Help with name needed.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6718 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6719 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Help with name needed.



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6569 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator
I, Quintus Cassius Calvus (Richard Arthur Malley) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Quintus Cassius Calvus (Richard
Arthur Malley) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my
public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and
private life.

I, Quintus Cassius Calvus (Richard Arthur Malley) swear to uphold
and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Quintus Cassius Calvus (Richard Arthur Malley) swear to protect
and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Quintus Cassius Calvus (Richard Arthur Malley) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Rogator
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Rogator and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Jan 1, 2003
IANVARIVS 1ST MMDCCLVI
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6570 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Iusiurandum Titi Labieni Fortunati
Ego Titus Labienus Fortunatus (Conrad Davis) hoc ipso facto sollemniter
IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque
Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Titus Labienus Fortunatus Romae deos
deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas
virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.

Ego Titus Labienus Fortunatus Romanam religionem favere et defendere
IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius
status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego Titus Labienus Fortunatus IVRO quam optime fungi officium
muneris consulis.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et eorum voluntate et favore, munus consulis ACCIPIO una cum iuribus,
privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In America Austoccidentalis Provincia Kalendas Ianuarias, anno MMDCCLVI
A.V.C.

******

I, Titus Labienus Fortunatus (Conrad Davis), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Titus Labienus Fortunatus, swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Titus Labienus Fortunatus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a
way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Titus Labienus Fortunatus, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Titus Labienus Fortunatus, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of consul to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of consul and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In the province of Southwestern America, January 1st, 2756 years after
the founding of the city.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6571 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: The Roman New Year
Romans!
In the two thousand seventy fifth year of the City, the citizens Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus have entered office as consuls.
For Romans it is important at the start of the year to carry out a careful
observance to ensure success in public and private affairs. The first words
spoken on awakening in the morning, and the first actions accomplished within
the house must be cheerful and uncomplaining. To bring luck, laurel and
saffron, is placed around the door or burned on the little household altar.
But unlike today's holiday, New Years Day in Rome then was no holiday. As the
year started, so would it continue. The citizens must carry out a typical
day. This means one could visit and receive your friends & clients;
reciprocate good wishes to one other, give out little gifts of dates, figs
and honey to sweeten the approaching year; but then the citizens would be off
to work.

If you were in Rome in the 200s BCE the first thing you would notice is along
the Sacred Way that led to Capitoline are the temples, normally kept shut,
are open to worship, and fire burns on all the altars that stands before
them.
You would next notice a solemn procession of Romans along the Way, ready to
make its way up to the Temple of Jupiter Best and Greatest to seek a blessing
on the city and outside communities for the coming year. So early in the day
(hour after sunrise) the crowds have gathered in the Forum Romanum near the
the Senate house. Each senator is wearing his heavy, woolen toga over the
broad purple stripe of his tunic, the patricians wearing scarlet shoes, the
plebeians regular sandals. Of the 300 likely 250 would be present on such a
special occasion-all those not hindered by illness or extreme age or absent
on the public service in or outside Italy.
Then who follows them are the 'knights' or Equities: wearing their togas over
the narrow purple stripe of their tunics, men rich enough to afford the
expense of a horse, so that they can provide the cavalry of the army.
Next, the people of the city themselves. The shopkeepers, artisans,
servants, laborers, farmers in for the day from the nearby country; and
almost as numerous and not very detectable from their dress, freedmen and the
slaves, immigrants or the domestics climbing towards citizenship.
The procession would form up as the Consuls, dressed in the purple and
embroidered togas of consuls, appeared from the Senate house. At the front
moved the senators and knights; then, immediately preceding the consular
pair, their lictors, each with the fasces that traditional bundle of rods but
no ax supported in left hand and on left shoulder showing the imperium of a
Roman magistrate, having the power to punish the citizens if it was
warranted. Behind the Consuls would carried the ceremonial Etruscan folding
stools of metal inlaid with carved ivory,
their curule chairs (sellae curules).
Following the procession at its end would be implements of the sacrifice, the
priests, a herald, flute player, the victimarius, (the slayer) his assistant
and young boy. (To follow the ancient tradition both his parents must be
still living), together with the sacrifices: white oxen from the Faliscan
heights or the plains of Clitunno, their horns covered in gilt.
At the foot of the Capitoline slope the congregation would turn left, and
move north-westwards towards the Capitol, past the high dais of the Temple of
Saturn, up the steep slope of the paved, slightly curving Sacred Way that led
along the South part of Capitoline Hill. Once through the gate and into the
sacred area, they squeezed into position among the columns fronting the
Temple of Jupiter, Juno and Minerva. Within the doorway of the central
shrine, that of Jupiter, the consuls would take their places for the first
time upon their sellae curules, facing outwards towards the altar, the body
and Rome. It would be now necessary to take the auspices and make sure, that
the God would accept the coming sacrifice. The cage containing the sacred
chickens, was administered by a special official, the pullarius. If the birds
scurried away instead of pecking at the pieces of pulse thrown to them, no
sacrifice could be carried out. Instead the ceremony will be resumed on the
morrow. But today the pullarius reports in due course that the birds have
fed. The altar fire crackles with saffron, casting
a glow on the gilded coffers of the shaded pronaos. In the presence of the
togate consuls, and of the Senate and People of Rome, keeping holy silence,
the purple-veiled priest offered prayers for the state, a formulae repeated
from a written page and checked for correctness by a listener appointed for
the purpose. Any slip of the tongue, any stumble or mispronunciation tainted
the proceedings, the spoken ritual would have to start from the beginning.
To muffle unlucky noises the piper played while the ritual was carried out.
Then the head of the ox was sprinkled with meal by the priest, and turned
sideways; the animal's throat was slit; the victim was disembowelled and the
entrails laid upon the altar. Only if the ritual could be duplicated
undeviatingly like those of the past years could another year of success be
expected to come to Rome.
Afterwards would come a second offering, this time made by the twelve
Brethren of the Fields, an ancient and exclusive body. Its descent lay in the
faraway and obscure past, when Rome and her community was a little town
dependent on the yield of the land, so this yield must be assured by
reverence.
Now only a few nobles would carry on the ancient traditions. Once this
ceremony was concluded, the procession would re-form and descend the way it
came. The consuls, magistrates and senators would make their way to the
Senate house in the north-east corner of the Forum for the first meeting of
the year.
The citizens would head for their place of employment. As it was then so it
now.
A most Happy New Year, Romans! May you all be lucky and successful in the
upcoming year. Best wishes from Q. Fabius Maximus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6572 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: My internet connection
Salvete Quirites!

My Internnet connection (the whole net in northern Sweden was hit)
has been down and I am about 8 hours behind schedule. I am sorry for
the inconvinience. I hope to be be on track within a few hours.

Until next!

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6573 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: The Consular Oath of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer
Edling) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Consul
of Nova Roma to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Consul of Nova Roma and all the rights,
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6574 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Tribunis Plebis
I, Diana Moravia Aventina (Joanna Agate Amodea)do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Diana Moravia Aventina swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Diana Moravia Aventina swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as
the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Diana Moravia Aventina swear to protect and defend the Constitution of
Nova Roma.

I, Diana Moravia Aventina further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Tribunis Plebis to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Tribunis Plebis and all the rights,
privileges,obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Vale,
Diana Moravia Aventina
Jan 1, 2003

Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunis Plebis
Sacerdos Venus
http://www.gensmoravia.org
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6575 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath Of Office: Censor
Kal. Ianuarius MMDCCLVI a.u.c.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus (Matthew R. Hucke), do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of the people and the Senate
of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus, swear
to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus, swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus, further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Censor
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Censor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

I swear this by Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, best and greatest of Gods;
by Minerva; by Mars; and by my adopted ancestor, the Divine Augustus.
Ita est!

Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6576 From: Daniel Dreesbach Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Fwd: Re: [ComitiaCuriata] Sample text for the vesting of Imperium
--- Daniel Dreesbach <stakor2000@...> wrote:
> From Daniel Dreesbach Wed Jan 1 08:17:15 2003
> To: ComitiaCuriata@yahoogroups.com
> From: Daniel Dreesbach <stakor2000@...>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:17:15 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [ComitiaCuriata] Sample text for the vesting of Imperium
>
>
> >
> > I, Gaius Geminius Germanus, Lictor Novae Romae and
> > member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
> > passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold
> > the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755
> > AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and
> > appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the State and Provincial
> > level.
> >
> > May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
> > of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
> > Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond
> > bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.
> >
> > Valete,
> Gaius Geminius Germanus
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6577 From: Sp. Postumius Tubertus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Concerning the Past Year
Sp. Postumius Tubertus Quiritibus Magistratibusque Romanis S.P.D.

Salvete,

Though I am not a senior magistrate or anything notable of that sort, I would like to say a few things about the year, for the
duration of time I was a citizen during that passed year.

First, perhaps I should begin in late May. The last day of which, I finally applied for citizenship. From there things took off.

My citizenship was approved on the Kalends of Sextilis, somewhere around 18:30 Eastern Daylight Time. Soon thereafter, the Senator,
Consul, and Curator Araneum M. Octavius Germanicus appointed me as a Scribe, with the duty of maintaining the Tabularium. As the
Tabularium looks now, I hope it is updated. Otherwise, I have failed to do my job, haven't I?

Later that month, as I had too been asked to work on the provincial website of Lacus Magni, I succeeded M. Octavius as Retiarius,
and have since then tried to maintain an informative website for the Citizens of Nova Roma concerning the Great Province Lacus
Magni, under the Propraetorship of M. Bianchius Antonius.

And yet again, in November, the Praetor (and now Consul) T. Labienus Fortunatus appointed me to the position of scribe with the duty
of assisting in the moderation of the Main List (so I hope things have been moderated enough for you since that time).

In the year coming, I hope to again be of service to the Citizens of Nova Roma in some small way, and to the Magistrates of Nova
Roma in whatever ways I may.

All that now said, I will get to the real point of this....

I'd first like to thank the former Consul and current Censor Marcus Octavius Germanicus, for allowing me to assist him in his duties
as Curator Araneum, and for allowing me to hold the title of Scriba Curatoris. I would also like to thank him for allowing me to
succeed him in his post as Retiarius of Lacus Magni. And I hope I have succeeded him well.

I'd also like to thank the Propraetor Marcus Bianchius Antonius, for allowing me to serve his province in my position of Retiarius.

Third, I would like to thank the former Praetor and current Consul Titus Labienus Fortunatus, for allowing me the honor as serving
as a Praetorian Scribe. And I shall be willing to assist both he and his colleague Caeso Fabius in this coming year as they sit in
the seats of the Consuls.

Fourth, I would like to thank the Censors at the time of the approval of my citizenship, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus and Caius
Flavius Diocletianus, for allowing me to join the Citizenship of Nova Roma.

Fifth, I would like to thank the Senate of Nova Roma, for dealing with my occasional immaturities, and for allowing good and well
qualified persons serve the Citizens in the ways they best may.

And sixth, though hardly least, I would like to thank the Citizens of Nova Roma, also for dealing with my immaturities, and for
electing good magistrates to the positions which they serve. I also want to thank you all for allowing me to be a (probably very
miniscule) part of your lives, and for teaching me all that I have learned in my short time here thus far. My Latin teacher always
comments on how much I've learned from being in Nova Roma, and I must agree that I've learned a lot from each of you. I hope that I
may do honor to you all in my future and yours.

Lastly, I would like to wish you all good years in this coming, and those after. I realize we all have our differences with each
other, but we have come together for a common cause. I think that speaks volumes about we as a People, that we can come together and
deal with each other because we all have the common cause, and the common goal, though our means may not all coincide with each
other. I wish you all the best in your coming endeavors, and all those that may arise after those soon arising, and I wish that you
all learn what you may from these endeavors. A wise man said ignorance to be the only evil. I agree with that man.

Optime Valete in Amicitia,

Sp. Postumius Tubertus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6578 From: Chantal G. Whittington Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator
I, Renata Corva Cantrix (Chantal G. Whittington), do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Renata Corva Cantrix
(Chantal G. Whittington), swear to honor the Gods and
Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue
the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Renata Corva Cantrix (Chantal G. Whittington),
swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the
State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Renata Corva Cantrix (Chantal G. Whittington),
swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.

I, Renata Corva Cantrix (Chantal G. Whittington),
further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Rogator to the best
of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Rogator and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given by my hand this 1st day of January, 2003
Year of the City 2756 in the Roman reckoning

Renata Corva Cantrix
Chantal Gaudiano Whittington

=====
Chantal
http://www.theranweyr.org

"Yesterday, it worked.
Today, it is not working.
Windows is like that."




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6579 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Propraetoricium LXIV about the appointment of the Prolegatu
Ex Officio Propraetoris Thulae

Edictum Propraetoricium LXIV about the appointment of a Prolegatus
Regionis Suecicae (Provisional Legate on Trial of the Swedish Region)

It is with regret I accept the resignment of Honorable Vibius
Minucius Falco. He has served as my Legatus Regionis Suecicae for
nearly 18 months. His life has arrived at a stage were he needs to
concentrate on his studies. As his friend I have encouraged that
development., even if it has lead to this resignment

In this situation it is a great pleasure for me, Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus, to appoint a new citizen and close friend to the
position of Prolegate within Provincia Thule and the Cohors
Propraetoris (The Propraetorian Staff, Provincial Governament)! As a
Nova Roman citizen within the Provincia Thule, I am proud to greet
this old friend as my assistant.

I. Honorable Gallus Minucius Iovinus is hereby appointed as
Prolegatus Regionis Suecicae, (Provisional Legate on Trial of the
Swedish Region).

II. Above appointed official is asked to observe that he is bound by
the "Approved Regula (Charter) for the Administration of Thule" as it
was published on the 15th of April 2001.

III. As a official in Provincia Thule he is asked to within one week
swear the public oath shown on
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/1999-10-19-ii.html, using
both his Nova Roman name and within parenthesis his macroworld (real)
name. Observe that the Oath of must include all appointed positions
of each cives. The Oath must be published on the NovaRomaThule List
and the Nova Roma Main List!

IV. This edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6580 From: rexmarciusnr Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office - Tribune
I, Marcus Marcius Rex (Marcus Heinz), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Marcius Rex, swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Marcius Rex, swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a
way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Marcus Marcius Rex, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Marcius Rex, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Tribunus Plebis to the best of
my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Tribunus Plebis and all the rights,
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In the province of Germania, January 1st, 2756 ab urbe condita.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6581 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Best wishes to our new magistrates
Salvete omnes,

I would like to take this opportunity to publicly welcome our new
magistrates and wish them all the best for the year to come.
As our retiring consuls, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix and Marcus Octavius
Germanicus, pointed out, much has happened last year and it will be a
challenging task for our new leaders, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus
Labienus Fortunatus, to organise with the help of the Censores a practical
and efficient census.
I for one agree with Senator Cornelius Sulla on the importance of such an
undertaking and share his views that any other legislation on citizenship,
taxation or gentes should be postponed until the results of the census are
published.
I am really looking forward to discovering just how many of us there really
are and to laying the first real stone towards the building of a community
based on real people rather than electronic blips.
Although I haven't been elected to any office, I gladly offer my services to
all people of goodwill should my spare time be of help to anyone.

My heart today also goes to Diana Moravia : May our mater use her usual
brilliance and common sense in her office as tribuna plebis. I wish her
every success and remain confident that justice and fairness will be her
guides.

Happy new year to all

Optime Valete

Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6582 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office: Curator Araneum
Kal. Ianuarius MMDCCLVI a.u.c.

I, Titus Octavius Pius (Kristoffer From), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Titus Octavius Pius, swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the
Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Titus Octavius Pius, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as
the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that
would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Titus Octavius Pius, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of
Nova Roma.

I, Titus Octavius Pius, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Curator Araneum to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Curator Araneum and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Titus Octavius Pius, Curator Araneum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6583 From: Legion XXIV Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Rogator for NovaRoma
Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator for Nova Roma

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas (George W. Metz) of my own free will and
accord, in the presence of the Gods, Senate and People of Nova Roma;
do hereby and herein; most solemnly, sincerely, and truly; promise,
declare and swear that I will serve as Rogator, will uphold the honor
of Nova Roma, and will always act in the best interests of the Senate
and People of Nova Roma.

I do further promise and vow, to keep, support, maintain and abide by,
all the Ancient Usage's, Customs and Landmarks of Ancient Rome, along
with the Constitution, Laws and Edicts of Nova Roma.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma and as Praefectus of Legion XXIV
do I, by the will and favor of the Senate and People of NovaRoma, accept
the position of Rogator with all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities thereof and do further pledge the forces of Legion XXIV
to the enforcement and protection of the Laws and Rules required for the
proper and lawful conduct of elections by the citizens of Nova Roma.

I do further promise and vow to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities
of the office of Rogator to the best of my abilities, and will serve as a
Rogator of NovaRoma for the Roman Year 2756 AUC, beginning this
day or until my successor is duly qualified.

To all of which I swear, without any equivocation, mental reservation or
self evasion of mind in me whatever; but with a firm and steadfast resolution
to keep and perform the same.

So Help Me God and Keep Me Steadfast.

Gallio Velius Marsallas aka George W. Metz
www.legionxxiv.org

Jan 1, 2003
IANVARIVS 1ST MMDCCLVI










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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6584 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Curatorum I
Edictum Curatorum I

I. All edicts of my predecessor, Marcus Octavius Germanicus, excluding
those dealing with appointments and those already nullified by time or
other edicts, are hereby re-issued under my own authority.

II. The following citizens are hereby appointed as scribae to the
Curator Araneum, to assist in my work with the website:
1. Marcus Octavius Germanicus
2. Julilla Sempronia Magna
3. Franciscus Apulus Caesar
4. Spurius Postumius Tubertus

III. Marcus Octavius Germanicus is, due to his experience with the
website, computers in general and Nova Roma herself, hereby named as the
Senior scriba, and is to direct the other scribae in the absence of
instructions from the Curator.

IV. This edict is effective immediately.

Given the 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

Titus Octavius Pius, Curator Araneum.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6585 From: Cheri Henderson Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Oath of Office: Curator Araneum
I,Helena Galeria Aureliana, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and
uphold
the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755
AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected
and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the State and
Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond
bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Valete,

Helena Galeria
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6586 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Senior Consul's Beginning of the year Address, MMDCCLVI A.U.C
Ex Officio Consulis Senioris Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Quiritibus Romanus SPD

This day I stand before the Senate and the Populus of Roma to mark
the changing of inauguration of our magistrates for the year 2756.

We install our magistrates on this day, the Kalendae Januarii, in
keeping with regulations dating back to 153 BCE. Were we all
fortunate enough to be swept back to Roma Antiqua for this solemn
occasion, we would be standing on the steps of the temple of Jupiter
Capitolinus, where my illustrus colleague, Titus Labienus and I, clad
in our togae praextextae, would offer a sacrifice of white bulls.
After this, the Senate would be convened. There the Senior consul
would report on affairs concerning the Republic: the fixing of feriae
Latinae, the holidays, distribution of provinciae, and many
administrative matters. In our time this will, if possible, be done
during the following few weeks.

One other historical note: it may interest you to know that I am not
the first Caeso Fabius to sit in the sella curulis: Caeso Fabius
Vibulanus was consul three times, in 484, 481 and 479 BCE
respectively. He seems to have been fairly successful as a Roman
Consul and I will set him as my pattern for the coming year.

But enough of history! As the Senior Consul I will hold the fasces
for January and then my colleague and I will alternate as the Consul
holding the fasces during the year. I am sure that my noble colleague
Titus Labienus Fortunatus and I will be privileged with having a
creative and friendly relation during this coming year. Let's hope
that the the Senate and the Citizens of Nova Roma will look at our
joint Consulship as an good example for generations to come!

I also want to greet all other Magistrati as their term of office
begins! I am convinced that we soon will have two competent Praetores
elected and that WE the magistrates of Nova Roma for the year
MMDCCLVI A.U.C will be able to "move mountains" for the greater good
of our beloved Res Publica!

Let me now address the needs of Nova Roma, which are our most
pressing concerns!

January is named for our god Janus who is, in addition to serving as
the guardian of doorways and gates, a god of new beginnings. Today
is a day of new beginnings for us all in Nova Roma, and I ask you
all to set aside old quarrels and differences and join with me in
forging new resolutions for the coming year. It will take a united
effort from each one of us to continue to spread the word of the New
Rome and grow from the 1,601 cives we have today to thousands and
thousands of Quirites in the years to come.

My goals for this new year include:

I. Establishment of Diplomatic standards

II. Promotion of Nova Roma in the macronational states

III. Revision of the Census Law

IV. Reformation and improvement of communications between the
Senate and Populus of Nova Roma

V. Expansion of the Nova Roma scholarship endowment

Ever since I became a citizen of Nova Roma I have worked hard to
involve as many citizens as possible, for it is only through service
that strong commitments are made. This Consulate is no exception, and
I am proud to tell you about my Cohors Consularis CFQ, the team who
will assist me in reaching these goals.

* the Officina ad Consuetudines et Communicationes (Relations and
Communications Office) shall assist me with all matters related to
contacts within and outside Nova Roma;

* the Officina Aerarii (Financial Office) shall assist me with
matters related to financial and economical issues;

* the Officina Iuris et Rei Politicae (Law and Politics Office)
shall assist me in political and legal issues.

* the Ductorium Cohortis (the Steering Committee of the Staff) shall
consist of me as the Consul, the Ductor Cohortis (Chief of Staff) and
the Capites et Vicarii Officinarum (Heads and Deputies of Offices).

* the Conclave ad Praeparationem Cohortis Consulis (the Briefing-Room
of the Consular Staff) shall consist of me as the Consul, the Ductor
Cohortis and every member of the Executive Branch of the Cohors.

* and at last, the Consilium Accensorum Magnorum (the Council of
Major Assistants) shall consist of every Accensus Magnus, and shall
offer advice to the me when asked. The Consilium Accensorum Magnorum
shall be part of the Advisory Branch of the Cohors Consulis CFQ.

The Cohors Consulis CFQ is staffed by talented and hardworking
Accensi, or assistants, who have graciously volunteered their time
and talents to implementing these goals and to assist me in all of my
other duties during my term.

But there is still room for you, Amici, Colleagues and Quirites! Our
historical roots are strong, but our branches are yet growing. I
invite you to join with me in building a strong Nova Roma for the
year 2,756 and beyond.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6587 From: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus (Klemens Edler), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus (Klemens Edler), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus (Klemens Edler), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus (Klemens Edler), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus (Klemens Edler), further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Kal Ian MMDCCLVI AUC (1st of January 2003).


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6588 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda (The F
Ex Officio Consulis Senioris Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda
(The First Consular edict CFQ on the establishment of the Cohors Consulis CFQ)

Preamble:
The duties and responsibilities of the Consuls are many and varied,
and often require much time, thought, research and effort to be given
to many different tasks at once. For this reason, in accordance with
the constitution of Nova Roma, clause IV.A.2.e, the Senior Consul
shall be appointing a number of Accensi (Assistants) to assist and
advise him. In the interests of efficiency and order, these Accensi
shall be gathered and organized as members of the "Cohors Consulis
Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani" (Cohors Consulis CFQ). This edict
establishes the Cohors Consulis CFQ and sets out its internal
structures.

I. Every member of the Cohors shall be ultimately answerable to the
Consul, and the Consul shall have the final decision in any matter he
delegates to the Cohors or to any part of it.

II. The Accensi shall be ranked as follows, with the highest rank first:

A. Accensus Magnus (Major Assistant). There shall be no hierarchy
within this rank.

B. Accensus Superior (High Assistant). These shall be ranked by
number, beginning with the Accensus Superior Primus (First High
Assistant), then the Accensus Superior Secundus (Second High
Assistant), and so on.

C. Accensus Senior (Senior Assistant). These shall be ranked by
number, beginning with the Accensus Senior Primus (First Senior
Assistant), then the Accensus Senior Secundus (Second Senior
Assistant), and so on, except for Accensi promoted to this rank from
the rank of Accensus Ordinarius (Ordinary Assistant), who shall have
no number.

D. Accensus Ordinarius (Ordinary Assistant). There shall be no
hierarchy within this rank.

E. Accensus Iunior (Assistant-in-training). This rank shall be
held only by Accensi under 21 years of age. These shall be divided
into two ranks, the higher being that of Tiro (Cadet), the lower
being that of Petitor (Aspirant).

III. The Consul may at his discretion promote any Accensus to a
higher rank, up to the rank of Senior. Promotion shall be based on
the merit of work done in the Cohors. Promotion to a higher rank
shall not entail any additional duties or responsibilities, but shall
be purely honorary.

IV. The Cohors Consulis CFQ shall consist of two branches: the
Advisory Branch and the Executive Branch.

V. Consilium Accensorum Magnorum (the Council of Major Assistants)
shall consist of every Accensus Magnus, and shall offer advice to the
Consul when asked. It shall be chaired by a Praeses (Chairman), who
shall be one of the Accensi Magni. The Consilium Accensorum Magnorum
shall be part of the Advisory Branch of the Cohors Consulis CFQ.

VI. Conclave ad Praeparationem Cohortis Consulis (the Briefing-Room
of the Consular Staff) shall consist of the Consul, the Ductor
Cohortis and every member of the Executive Branch of the Cohors. The
right to address the Conclave shall belong only to the Consul and the
Accensi Superiores, except at weekends, when all members may speak.
The Conclave Praeparatio Cohors Consulis shall be part of the
Executive Branch of the Cohors Consulis CFQ.

VII. Private Secretaries. The Consul shall have a number of private
secretaries to assist him in organizing his affairs. The Consul may
divide specific duties among his private secretaries as he deems
appropriate. The private secretaries shall be part of the Executive
Branch of the Cohors Consulis CFQ.

VIII.
A. Ductorium Cohortis (the Steering Committee of the Staff) shall
consist of the Consul, the Ductor Cohortis (Chief of Staff) and the
Capites and Vicarii Officinarum (Heads and Deputies of Offices; see
IX).

B. The Ductorium Cohortis shall be part of the Executive Branch of
the Cohors Consulis CFQ.

C. The Ductorium shall meet regularly to coordinate the work of
the Officinae (see IX).

D. Meetings shall be chaired by the Ductor Cohortis, or in his
absence by the Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis (First Deputy Chief
of Staff), or in the absence of both by the Vicarius Secundus
Ductoris Cohortis (Second Deputy Chief of Staff), and so on.

E. These posts shall be filled as follows:
i. The Accensus Superior Primus shall be Ductor Cohortis;
ii. The Accensus Superior Secundus shall be Vicarius Primus
Ductoris Cohortis;
iii. The Accensus Superior Tertius shall be Vicarius Secundus
Ductoris Cohortis;
and so on.

F. The Ductor Cohortis shall have a private secretary (Primus
Adiutor Cohortis - First Staff Assistant) to assist him in organizing
his affairs. This post shall be filled by the Accensus Senior Primus.

G. At meetings of the Ductorium, the secretary shall be the
Secundus Adiutor Cohortis (Second Staff Assistant), or in his absence
the Tertius Adiutor Cohortis (Third Staff Assistant), and so on.

H. These posts shall be filled as follows:
i. The Accensus Senior Secundus shall be Secundus Adiutor Cohortis;
ii. The Accensus Senior Tertius shall be Tertius Adiutor Cohortis;
and so on.

IX.
A. There shall be three Officinae (Offices):
i. Officina ad Consuetudines et Communicationes (Relations and
Communications Office). This Officina shall assist the Consul with
all matters related to contacts within and outside Nova Roma.
ii. Officina Aerarii (Financial Office). This Officina shall
assist the Consul with matters related to financial and economical
issues.
iii. Officina Iuris et Rei Politicae (Law and Politics Office).
This Officina shall assist the Consul in political and legal issues.
Each Officina shall be part of the Executive Branch of the Cohors
Consulis CFQ.

B. The Members of the Officina
i. Each Officina shall be headed by a Caput Officina (Head of
Office), who shall be answerable directly to the Ductor Cohortis; and
by a Vicarius Capitis Officinae (Deputy Head of Office), who shall be
answerable directly to the Caput Officina. The Caput Officina shall
be an Accensus Superior; the Vicarius Capitis Officinae shall be an
Accensus Senior.
ii. Each Officina shall also contain a number of members who
shall be Accensi Ordinarii or Iuniores, who shall be answerable
directly to the Caput Officina.
iii. The Caput Officina may assign specific tasks and
responsibilities to other members of his Officina at his discretion.

X. Each Accensi of the Cohors Consulis CFQ is required to swear the
oath issued in the "Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando
Apparitorium (The Third Consular Edict Concerning the Oath of
Attendants/Apparitores)"

XI. This edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6589 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Consulare CFQ II de Nominationibus in Cohorte Consulis CFQ
Ex Officio Consulis Senioris Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFQ II de Nominationibus in Cohorte Consulis CFQ
(The Second Consular edict CFQ II on the appointments in the Cohors
Consulis CFQ)


The Cohors Consulis has been established by "Edictum I CFQ de Cohorte
Consulis CFQ Constituenda". This present edict shall accordingly fill
the positions and offices created within the Cohors Consulis CFQ by
appointing a number of Accensi (Assistants).

I. Consilium Accensorum Magnorum:
The following persons shall be members of the Consilium Accensorum
Magnorum: Marcus Minucius Audens who will the Praeses (Chairman),
further Patricia Cassia and Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, all three of
them holding the rank of Accensus Magnus. In the future more Accensi
Magni may be appointed.

II. Ductorium Cohortis:
a. Heads of the Ductorium Cohortis:
Caius Curius Saturninus is appointed to the office of Ductor Cohortis
(Chief (Guide) of Staff), with the rank of Accensus Superior Primus.
His personal secretary shall be Manius Constantinus Serapio, Accensus
Senior Primus.
b. Members of the Ductorium:
The following persons shall be members of the Ductorium Cohortis in
their capacity as heads of the three Officinae: Franciscus Apulus
Caesar as Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis (First Deputy Chief
(Guide) of Staff), Gnaeus Equitius Marinus as Vicarius Secundus
Ductoris Cohortis (Second Deputy Chief (Guide) of Staff), Sextus
Apollonius Scipio as Vicarius Tertius Ductoris Cohortis (Third Deputy
Chief (Guide) of Staff), Julilla Sempronia Magna, Patricia Cassia and
Manius Constantinus Serapio. They shall hold their ranks as specified
below in paragraphs III.a, IV.a and V.a.

III. Officina ad Consuetudines et Communicationes:
a. Heads of Office:
Franciscus Apulus Caesar is appointed Caput Officinae ad
Consuetudines et Communicationes (Head of the Relations and
Communication Office). He shall hold the rank of Accensus Superior
Secundus. His deputy shall be Julilla Sempronia Magna, with the rank
of Accensa Senior Tertia.
b. Accensi Ordinarii:
The following persons are assigned to work in the Officina ad
Consuetudines et Communicationes:
Emilia Curia Finnica, Lucius Salix Cicero and Arnamentia Moravia
Aventina, each holding the rank of Accensus Ordinarius.
c. Accensus Iunior:
Titus Arminius Genialis is appointed Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in the
Officina ad Consuetudines et Communicationes.

IV. Officina Aerarii:
a. Heads of Office:
Sextus Apollonius Scipio is appointed Caput Officinae Aerarii (Head
of the Financial Office), with the rank of Accensus Superior Quartus.
His deputy shall be Patricia Cassia, holding the rank of Accensa
Senior Secunda.
b. Accensi Ordinarii:
The following persons are assigned to work in the Officina Aerarii:
Titus Octavius Pius, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, Flavius Galerius
Aurelianus Secundus and Lucius Rutilius Minervalis, each holding the
rank of Accensus Ordinarius.

V. Officina Iuris et Rei Politicae:
a. Heads of Office:
Gnaeus Equitus Marinus is appointed Caput Officinae Iuris et Rei
Politicae (Head of the Law and Politics Office). He shall hold the
rank of Accensus Superior Tertius. His deputy shall be Manius
Constantinus Serapio, with the rank of Accensus Senior Primus.
b. Accensi Ordinarii:
the following persons are assigned to work in the Officina Iuris et
Rei Politicae:
Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, Caius Minucius
Scaevola, Gaia Fabia Livia and Aulus Apollonius Cordus, each holding
the rank of Accensus Ordinarius.
c. Accensus Iunior:
Spurius Postumius Tubertus is appointed Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in
the Officina Iuris et Rei Politicae.

VI. Personal secretaries:
The Consul shall have two personal secretaries, namely Sextus
Apollonius Scipio, holding the rank of Accensus Superior Quartus, and
Titus Octavius Pius, with the rank of Accensus Ordinarius and office
of Accensus Observator (Political Accountant).

VII. Above appointed Accensi are asked to observe that they are bound
by the Constitution of Nova Roma (see
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/constitution.html) and the Edictum
I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda

VIII. As an official of Nova Roma the above appointed Accensi are
asked to, within one week, swear the public oath which will be
published in the Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium
(The Third Consular Edict Concerning the Oath of
Attendants/Apparitores), using both their Nova Roman name. The Oath
must be published both on the NovaRoma-Announce List and the Nova
Roma Main List!

VIII. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given the 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso
Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6590 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third Con
Ex Officio Consulis Senioris Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third
Consular Edict Concerning the Oath of Attendants/Apparitores)

There have been a discussion about oaths in Nova Roma that has
convinced me that there is a need for a separate oath for Appiatores,
as I do think that their positions certainly are serious, important
and needed in their own way. It is my intention that this oath should
be sworn by every Appiator in Nova Roma and that also other more
informal "officials" could be required to swear this oath. I end by
thanking Illustrus Decius Iunius Palladius, who provided me with the
major part of this oath and my colleague Illusrtus Titus Labienus
Fortunatus who supported me in this work.

Oath for Apparitoria

I, __enter Roman name here____________do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of __enter name of appointing magistrate here____ while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, _____________________further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of ______________to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I,_____________________swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of_____________with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6591 From: Sp. Postumius Tubertus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third
Salvete Omnes,

Oath for Apparitoria

I, Spurius Postumius Tubertus, do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Consul Caeso Fabius Quintillianus while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Spurius Postumius Tubertus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Petitior (Accensus Iunior) to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Spurius Postumius Tubertus, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Petitior (Accensus Iunior) with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

====

Vale,

Spurius Postumius Tubertus,

Accensus, Retiarius, Scriba, and Citizen of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6592 From: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Accensus
I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Ordinarius with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Kal Ian MMDCCLVI AUC (1st of January 2003).


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6593 From: Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: A note on "salve...vale", or how to write a Roman letter
Kal. IANVARIAS MMDCCLVI

SAXUS CUIQUE SALUTEM


While reviewing Cicero's letters, I came across the following
greeting used among Romans in written communication:

paulo ante xvi Kal. Ian. 57 MARCUS QUINTO (FRATRI) SALUTEM

That is, the Roman date* followed by the sender's praenomen MARCUS,
and QUINTO, the recipient's praenomen. SALUTEM means "greeting", and
the names could be fleshed out for clarity, as here, where Cicero
writes FRATRI, or "brother".

The sender's name was given in the salutation above, so that "vale"
did not need to be supplied at the end.


* See http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cview for today's Roman
date, updated daily.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6594 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senior Consul's Beginning of the year Address, MMDCCLVI A.U.C
Senior Consul scripsit

My goals for this new year include:

I. Establishment of Diplomatic standards

II. Promotion of Nova Roma in the macronational states

III. Revision of the Census Law

IV. Reformation and improvement of communications between the
Senate and Populus of Nova Roma

V. Expansion of the Nova Roma scholarship endowment

Salvete Fabi Quintilanne et omnes,

A noble and busy agenda indeed :-) based on public recognition and a
sensible census.
May the gods and godesses bless your work and dedication

Valete

Corn. Moravius Laureatus



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6595 From: Julilla Sempronia Magna Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath: Accensa Senior Tertia
I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Consul Caeso Fabius Quintillianus while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Accensa Senior Tertia to the
best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour,
do I accept the position of Accensa Senior Tertia with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given this day, KAL. IAN. MMDCCLVI A.U.C.

---
Vivat Nova Roma aeterna res publica nostra!
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Accensa Senior Tertia, Cohors Consularis, MMDCCLVI
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae
Curatrix Araneae,
America Boreoccidentalis
http://ambor.cynico.net
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6596 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: My internet connection
This bounced the first time I sent this.
Happy new year.

Salve Kinsman

As you take your first tentative steps holding the fasces this day,
I thought I would give you some advice as one who has been there,
and completed the office.

I. Always honor the Gods in all your dealings.
Nova Roma is a government whose main purpose is the
revival of the Religio. You must keep the Gods before the
populace. Carry out the sacrifice to Iuppiter Optimus today,
and ask for protection and sustenance for Nova Roma
during the duration of your consulship.
Before calling a Senate meeting, consult an augur
and choose the most auspicious time.
Do the same when summoning the Comita. If it is a bad time,
do not summon, until a favorable time is chosen by the augur.

Always invoke the Gods' protection of Nova Roma in
all your speeches. Other than the Pontifix Maximus,
you are the official representative of the people to the
state Gods of Nova Roma. The people speak thru you.

II Listen to your Senate.
The best dedicated and most knowledgeable historians
and service people are in the Senate. Listen to what they say,
and weigh their comments carefully before proceeding.
The historical purpose of the Senate is to advise the Consuls.
Let them do their job.


III. Avoid making numerous changes right away.
When you become the number one magistrate in Nova Roma,
you suddenly realize what you have been charged by the
people to do. You must pilot the state through all pitfalls,
make it stronger against its detractors, and most of all follow
the Vedian constitution. We are Romans. We leave our various
cultural differences at the entrance to the virtual pomerium.
We all must speak as Romans, act as Romans, cleave to Rome.
If you remember that, you will seldom go wrong.
Also important is to make sure you don't undertake too
many changes at once. Redefinition is ok, when I came into office
I had two main priorities, establish taxes, and protect the citizens
from internet stalking. I accomplished the latter,
but it was Vedius working off my example that got the former
instituted the following year. I spent most of the year refining
old laws and the constitution.
If you try to do too much, you won't get anything done.
I know this from past experience.
Also, you must remember what Nova Roma is about.
If your changes are implemented to quickly
this year, they may have unforeseen side effects that will
cause Nova Roma worse problems in the future.
Think of it as a game. You change the rules to improve the
game, except an aspect you did not foresee now causes a
worse problem in the rules which is not an improvement.
Leges are sometimes like this.

IV. Don't try to please everybody.
The first thing you will want, is for everybody to like you.
Fabius, in your position that can't happen. Not all people
are going to like you because that is how people are,
no matter what you do, those people are going to think
you are not doing the job the way they want you to.
Accept this and do the job for all the people,
not just the ones that like you.

V. Confide in your fellow Consul.
Always have agreement before informing the Senate and People.
What happened last year was a prime example of the actions
of secrets held out. Neither Consul trusted the other.
If you cannot agree, table the item and revisit it later.
Agree to compromises. Just because you think a lex might pass,
in the Senate or by the People, it may not, if there is a perception
that the Consuls are not in agreement. Better to be sure.

VI Obey the Laws.
As Consul you are going to have great Imperium and the
temptation to "cut corners" to make things easy on you.
Don't. It always comes out, and it could land you in legal
trouble. And remember, you as the Curule magistrate you
are responsible to keep your staff from engaging in
illegal activities. You wouldn't want that anyway,
it is a stain on your honor.

Fortuna aid you in your coming consulship.

Bene Vale

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6597 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senior Consul's Beginning of the year Address, MMDCCLVI A.U.C
Salve Honorable Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus!

I will do my best to deal with this Agenda all other business that
the Consuls are support to handle. I will have a most competent and
enthusiastic Cohors at my side. With their help and the advise of the
Senate I hope to contribute a clearly visable progress.

>Senior Consul scripsit
>
> My goals for this new year include:
>
> I. Establishment of Diplomatic standards
>
> II. Promotion of Nova Roma in the macronational states
>
> III. Revision of the Census Law
>
> IV. Reformation and improvement of communications between the
>Senate and Populus of Nova Roma
>
> V. Expansion of the Nova Roma scholarship endowment
>
>Salvete Fabi Quintilanne et omnes,
>
>A noble and busy agenda indeed :-) based on public recognition and a
>sensible census.
>May the gods and godesses bless your work and dedication
>
>Valete
>
>Corn. Moravius Laureatus
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Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6598 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Petitor (Accensus Iunior)
Titus Arminius Genialis Quiritibus S.P.D.


OATH

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus, while I hold this office, except when such action would be
illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in the Officina
ad Consuetudines et Communicationes to the best of my abilities while
following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, swear to give faithful service to my magistrate,
and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in the Officina ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes with all the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.


________________________________________
Titus Arminius Genialis
Apparitor Salutis Publicae Templi Concordiae
Scriba Retiarius Provinciae Brasiliae

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6599 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Scriba Curatoris Differium
Titus Arminius Genialis Quiritibus S.P.D.

IVRAMENTA

Ego, Titus Arminius Genialis hoc ipso facto sollemniter iuro Novae Romae
decus defendere et semper pro Novar Romae Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Titus Arminius Genialis Romae deos
deasquecolere iuro in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas
virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.

Ego Titus Arminius Genialis Romanam religionem favere et defendere iuro ut
Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status
publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego Titus Arminius Genialis iuro quam optime fungi officium
muneris Scriba Curatoris Differium.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
eteorum voluntate et favore, munus Scriba Curatoris Differium accipio una
cum iuribus, privilegiis, munera atque officiae quae meum munus comportat.

In Paulicea Regio, Brasilia Provincia, Kalends Ianuarias, MMDCCLVI a.u.c.



JURAMENTO

Eu, Titus Arminius Genialis, por meio deste, solenemente juro guardar a
honra de Nova Roma e trabalhar sempre para os melhores interesses do Senado
e Povo de Nova Roma.

Como um magistrado de Nova Roma, eu, Titus Arminius Genialis, juro honrar os
deuses e deusas de Roma nas minhas atividades públicas, bem como almejar as
virtudes públicas romanas na minha vida pública e privada.

Eu, Titus Arminius Genialis, juro sustentar e defender a Religio Romana como
a religião estatal de Nova Roma e juro nunca agir de forma que vá ameaçar
sua posição como religião oficial.

Eu, Titus Arminius Genialis, juro proteger e defender a Constituição de Nova
Roma.

Eu, Titus Arminius Genialis, no mais juro cumprir as obrigações e
responsabilidades do cargo de Scriba Curatoris Differium no melhor de minhas
habilidades.

Pela minha honra como cidadão de Nova Roma, na presença dos deuses e deusas
do Povo Romano, pelas suas mercês e favores, aceito a magistratura de Scriba
Curatoris Differium, bem como todos seus direitos, privilégios, obrigações e
responsabilidades decorrentes de agora em diante.

Dado em Paulicea Regio, Brasilia Provincia, Kalends Ianuarias, MMDCCLVI
a.u.c.


OATH

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the People and the
Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Titus Arminius Genialis, swear to honor de
gods and goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Titus Arminius Genialis swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as
the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Titus Arminius Genialsi, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curatoris Differium to the best of
my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the gods and
goddesses of the Roman People and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Scriba Curatoris Differium and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attentant thereto.

At Paulicea Regio, Brasilia Provincia, Kalends Ianuarias, MMDCCLVI a.u.c.



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Apparitor Salutis Publicae Templi Concordiae
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6600 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as tribunus plebis. Juramento como tribuno de la plebe
I, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (born as Daniel Oscar Villanueva) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its
status as the State Religion.

I, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.

I, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of tribunus plebis to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of tribunus plebis and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In provincia Agentina January 1st. 2003, Kalendas Januarias MMDCCLVI A.V.C.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Yo, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (nacido como Daniel Oscar Villanueva) por la presente juro solemnemente defender el honor de Nova Roma, y siempre actuar en los mejores intereses del pueblo y el Senado de Nova Roma.

Como magistrado de Nova Roma, Yo Lucius Pompeius Octavianus juro honrar los dioses y diosas de Roma en mis tratos públicos, y practicar las virtudes Romanas en mi vida pública y privada.

Yo, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus juro sostener y defender la Religio Romana como la religión de estado de Nova Roma y juro nunca actuar en una forma que amenaze su status como religión de estado.

Yo, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus juro proteger y defender la constitución de Nova Roma.

Yo, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus además juro cumplir con las obligaciones y responsabilidades de tribunus plebis hasta lo mejor de mis habilidades.

Sobre mi honor como ciudadano de Nova Roma, y en la presencia de los dioses y diosas del pueblo Romano y por sus voluntades y favor, acepto el cargo de tribunus plebis y todos los derechos , privilegios, obligaciones y responsabilidades concurrentes a ello.



Provincia Argentina, Enero 1 2003. Kalendas Januarias MMDCCLVI A.V.C.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Ego, Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (born as Daniel Oscar Villanueva) hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae
Populo atque Senatu agere. Ut Novae Romae magistratus
ego Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus
atque
Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.
Ego Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Romanam religionem favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae
Romae
Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae
religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat. Praeterea ego Lucius Pompeius Octavianus IVRO
quam
optime fungi officium muneris tribuni plebis.
Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et
eorum voluntate et favore, munus tribuni plebis
ACCIPIO
una cum iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus
comportat.

In Argentina Provincia Januarius 1 2003, anno MMDCCLVI A.V.C.





Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6601 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Man, I saw it on TV. Now, who are you gonna believe?







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Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 3:13 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>
> The Oxford Classical Dictionary says of the word tribune, "The word
is
> evidently connected with /tribus/, but it is uncertain whether the
> tribunes were at first chiefs of the tribes who later became
officers of
> the /plebs/... or whether the title imitated that of the /tribuni
> militum/ already existing." The OCD makes no mention of roads,
triple
> or otherwise, in the section discussing the tribuni plebis.
>
> I suggest that your definition is not the one accepted by the
majority
> of modern historians. And, as I do not remember* coming across the
> "three-road" interpretation in my rather extensive reading on the
> subject, I'd greatly appreciate knowing its source.

My Lewis and Short backs up this definition as well. Not a word about
3 way roads meeting under tribunus.

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6602 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Right. With a hard "v"







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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6603 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Curule Aedilean oath of office
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Civibus et Senatus Novae Romae SPD:


I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the
best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear
to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Curule Aedile to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Curule Aedile and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne) hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper
pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Gnaeus Equitius Marinus,
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae
temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita
persequi.

Ego Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Romanam religionem favere et defendere
IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut
eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego Gnaeus Equitius Marinus IVRO quam optime fungi officium
muneris Adeli Curali.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Adeli Curali ACCIPIO una cum
iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In America Mediatlantica Provincia, Kal. Jaunarius, anno MMDCCLVI
A.V.C.

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6604 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: OBSERVE: Oaths by Appiatores (Accensi and Scribae)
Salvete Quirites!

Please, observe that Appiatores (Accensi and Scribae) are not
supposed to swear the official magistrates oath, but to swear the
oath that I published today in an edictum that is called: "Edictum
Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third Consular
Edict Concerning the Oath of Attendants/Apparitores)".

This edictum is intended for all Accensi and Scribae both on the
Central level ( LEX VEDIA APPARITORIA) and Provincial level.
--

Valete

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
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************************************************
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"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6605 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Scriba Curatoris Differium
Titus Arminius Genialis Quiritibus S.P.D.

As you must have noticed, I unfortunately swore the wrong oath. The right
one is below:



OATH

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Tiberius Galerius
Paulinus, while I hold this office, except when such action would be
illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curatoris Differium to the best of
my abilities while
following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Titus Arminius Genialis, swear to give faithful service to my magistrate,
and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Scriba Curatoris Differium et
Communicationes with all the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.


________________________________________
Titus Arminius Genialis
Apparitor Salutis Publicae Templi Concordiae
Scriba Retiarius Provinciae Brasiliae

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6606 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Salvete


I, Marcus Arminius Maior, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and
acknowledge the passing of Imperium, the power to
carry out elected duties and uphold the laws, to the
duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2756
AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held
both by elected and appointed magistrates in the
coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over
the Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the
guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the
positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in
this coming year.


Valete,
Marcus Arminius Maior
Lictor of Comitia Curiata


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6607 From: Jonas Nilsson Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Prolegatus Regionis Suecicae
I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Prolegatus Regionis
Suecicae to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Prolegatus Regionis Suecicae and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6608 From: G.Porticus Brutis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Muscled Cuirass
I know this is kind of late but I know what your looking for I've been looking for some time.My wife loves to see me in iron! If you want a few names I can help you out.It will take a few days to look through my tons of papers but I've got just the sites your looking for.
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6609 From: G.Porticus Brutis Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Muscled Cuirass
I know this is kind of late but I know what your looking for I've been looking for some time.My wife loves to see me in iron! If you want a few names I can help you out.It will take a few days to look through my tons of papers but I've got just the sites your looking for.
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Gaius Basilicatus Agricola <jlasalle@...> wrote: I need, and I mean I need, a muscled roman cuirass. I've thought about lorica segmenta, and chainmail; but I want Armour that represents truly my fine body musculature. Anybody know where I can get one?







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6610 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Accensus Superior Tertius to Consul CFQ
Gn. Equitius Marinus Civibus et Senatus Novae Romae et
Consulis Caeso Fabius Quintilianus SPD:

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the
best interests of Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional, or impose a conflict of interest with my
magesterial office of Curule Aedile.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Accensus Superior Tertius to
the best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear to give faithful service to Consul
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve as Accensus
Superior Tertius solely at the discretion of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Superior Tertius with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In America Mediatlantic Provincia, Kal Ianuarius MMDCCLVI a.u.c.

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6611 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Investment of Imperium
T Labienus Fortunatus Lictor Quiritibus SPD

As a lictor Novae Romae and member of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby
witness and acknowledge the passing of imperium, the power to carry out
elected duties and uphold the laws, to the duly elected Nova Roman
magistrates for the year 2756 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will
be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year,
both on the state and provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond
bring favor upon our nation and our citizens in this coming year.

Valete
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6612 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum I Censoris Octavii: Appointment of Scribae
Ex Domo Marci Octavii Germanici Censoris

I. Senator Marcus Arminius Maior, Civis Brasiliae, is appointed
Scriba Censoris, effective immediately.

II. Julilla Sempronia Magna, Civis Americae Boreoccidentalis, is
appointed Scriba Censoris, effective immediately.

III. These Scribae are hereby granted authorization to view and
edit any citizen information that is necessary in order to perform
the duties assigned them by the Censores.

Given the 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

M. Octavius Germanicus, Censor Iunior.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6613 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"







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----- Original Message -----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6614 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Sacrifice for the New Year
T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

This morning, I performed a sacrifice of incense and wine to Iuppiter,
Iuno, and Minerva for the health and welfare of the Res Publica and the
Senate, using the form of the Saturnalia ritual posted earlier by
Pontifex Antonius Gryllus. Capite velato, I invited the God and
Goddesses to attend the rite with the words:

"Deus Iuppiter, as it is proper to offer to you on the Kalends of
Ianuarius for the health of the Res Publica and the Senate, for this I
offer a sacrifice of incense and wine to you. I pray to you so that you
may be willingly propitious to the health of the Res Publica and Senate,
and so that you may accept this sacrifice of incense and wine."

(repeated for Dea Iuno and Dea Minerva)

Receiving no ill omens, I washed my hands and offered first
frankincense, then good red wine to each in turn with the words:

"Deus Iuppiter, for the health of the Res Publica and Senate shall you
be honored with incense. Make yourself willingly propitious to the
health of the Res Publica and Senate."

(repeated for Dea Iuno and Dea Minerva)

"Deus Iuppiter, for the same reason shall you be honored with this wine.
Make yourself willingly propitious to the health of the Res Publica
and Senate."

(repeated for Dea Iuno and Dea Minerva)

Then, I kissed my right hand as a sign of reverence and declared the
ritual to be finished.

Other than a little difficulty with an uncooperative toga prior to the
ritual, all else went smoothly. I made no mistakes during the rite, and
no ill omens were witnessed.

Valete
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6615 From: Alejandro Carneiro Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Accensus
I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Consul
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such
action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best
of my Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gnaeus Salix Galaicus, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Ordinarius with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Kal Ian MMDCCLVI AUC (1st of January 2003).
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6616 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
I'll do it. I've had two courses in law school and numerous ones in college. The Twelve Tables, the Institutes of Gaius, the Corpus Juris Civilis, and the various codifications courtesy of Theodosious(sp?) and Justinian. Its been a while. I wrote a semester paper in law school on the status of women in Roman Law. I'm your man.







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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Gallagher
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"







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----- Original Message -----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

Q. Cassius Calvus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6617 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Muscled Cuirass
cool







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----- Original Message -----
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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Muscled Cuirass



I know this is kind of late but I know what your looking for I've been looking for some time.My wife loves to see me in iron! If you want a few names I can help you out.It will take a few days to look through my tons of papers but I've got just the sites your looking for.
G.Porticus Brutis
Gaius Basilicatus Agricola <jlasalle@...> wrote: I need, and I mean I need, a muscled roman cuirass. I've thought about lorica segmenta, and chainmail; but I want Armour that represents truly my fine body musculature. Anybody know where I can get one?







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6618 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Salve GREAT we have a piece for February so no need to rush but just in case that law article falls through you have until Jan 27th THANKS
please joinnovaromaeagle@yahoogroups
Tiberius


----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:22 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

I'll do it. I've had two courses in law school and numerous ones in college. The Twelve Tables, the Institutes of Gaius, the Corpus Juris Civilis, and the various codifications courtesy of Theodosious(sp?) and Justinian. Its been a while. I wrote a semester paper in law school on the status of women in Roman Law. I'm your man.







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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Gallagher
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"







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----- Original Message -----
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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

Q. Cassius Calvus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6619 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Sacrifice for the New Year
In a message dated 1/1/03 4:04:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
labienus@... writes:


> I made no mistakes during the rite, and no ill omens were witnessed.
>

Thank you Consul. A fine start to a most important year.

Q. Fabius Maximus
Pontiff


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6620 From: Julilla Sempronia Magna Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Scriba Censoris Oath
I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Censor Marcus Octavius Germanicus while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Censoris to the best of
my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour,
do I accept the position of Scriba Censoris with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given this day, KAL. IAN. MMDCCLVI A.U.C.

---
Vivat Nova Roma aeterna res publica nostra!
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Scriba Censoris, MMDCCLVI
Accensa Senior Tertia, Cohors Consularis, MMDCCLVI
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae, MMDCCLVI
Curatrix Araneae,
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6621 From: Julilla Sempronia Magna Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Scriba Curator Araneae Oath
I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Curator Araneum Titus Octavius Pius while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curator Araneum to the
best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour,
do I accept the position of Scriba Curator Araneum with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given this day, KAL. IAN. MMDCCLVI A.U.C.

---
Vivat Nova Roma aeterna res publica nostra!
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
|||| Scriba Censoris, MMDCCLVI
Accensa Senior Tertia, Cohors Consularis, MMDCCLVI
Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae, MMDCCLVI
Curatrix Araneae,
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6622 From: Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath as Accensus Ordinarius
OATH as Accensus Ordinarius

I, Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when
such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia, swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any
information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Ordinarius with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.





=====
Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia
http://www.gensmoravia.org

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6623 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: My internet connection
Salvete Quirites, et salve Quintius Fabius Maximus!

I thank Quintius Fabius Maximus for his advice and counsel. I shall
consider his, and all others', advice carefully as I go about my
duties and responsibilities as Senior Consul according to my plans
and promises for this year.

> As you take your first tentative steps holding the fasces this day,
> I thought I would give you some advice as one who has been there,
> and completed the office. [...]
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
"Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
"Integrity, Accountability, Reform"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6624 From: Legion XXIV Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of Rogator for Nova Roma
Subject: Oath of Office as Rogator for Nova Roma

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas (George W. Metz) of my own free will and
accord, in the presence of the Gods, Senate and People of Nova Roma;
do hereby and herein; most solemnly, sincerely, and truly; promise,
declare and swear that I will serve as Rogator, will uphold the honor
of Nova Roma, and will always act in the best interests of the Senate
and People of Nova Roma.

I do further promise and vow, to keep, support, maintain and abide by,
all the Ancient Usage's, Customs and Landmarks of Ancient Rome, along
with the Constitution, Laws and Edicts of Nova Roma.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma and as Praefectus of Legion XXIV
do I, by the will and favor of the Senate and People of NovaRoma, accept
the position of Rogator with all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities thereof and do further pledge the forces of Legion XXIV
to the enforcement and protection of the Laws and Rules required for the
proper and lawful conduct of elections by the citizens of Nova Roma.

I do further promise and vow to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities
of the office of Rogator to the best of my abilities, and will serve as a
Rogator of NovaRoma for the Roman Year 2756 AUC, beginning this
day or until my successor is duly qualified.

To all of which I swear, without any equivocation, mental reservation or
self evasion of mind in me whatever; but with a firm and steadfast resolution
to keep and perform the same.

So Help Me God and Keep Me Steadfast.

Gallio Velius Marsallas aka George W. Metz
www.legionxxiv.org

Jan 1, 2003
IANVARIVS 1ST MMDCCLVI



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6625 From: Fortunatus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Edictum Primum Consularis Labieni: Accensi
T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

Lucius Sicinius Drusus is hereby appointed as my Accensus.

Gaius Popillius Laenas is hereby appointed as my Accensus.

Gaius Marius Merullus and Marcus Octavius Solaris are hereby appointed
as my Accensi. Their primary duty shall be to translate the edicta,
leges, and other public declarations made by me during my tenure into
Latin prior to publication.

I would also like to note how extremely pleased I am to be working once
more with C Marius. While I served as his collega when we were
rogatores, and while I worked as his scriba during his term as censor
suffectus, he constantly impressed me with his industry and ethics.
It's a pleasure to have him on my staff.

Valete
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6626 From: Patricia Cassia Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Accensa
I, Patricia Cassia, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such action would be
illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Patricia Cassia, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Accensa Magna to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Patricia Cassia, swear to give faithful service to my magistrate,
and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I
understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Accensa Magna with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In addition, I hereby ask the goddess Minerva to guide and inspire Nova
Roma with wisdom, that our nation may be favored with growth and new
opportunities in the year ahead, and that we may seize those
opportunities to further our highest goals.

It should be noted that my service to Consul Caeso Fabius in no way
diminishes my respect for, nor my willingness to assist, Consul Titus
Labienus, for my respect for both men is great.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6627 From: Patricia Cassia Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Witness to the passing of imperium
I, Patricia Cassia, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium -- the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly
elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that
this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in
the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6628 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Oath: Accensus Ordinarius to Senior Consul
A. Apollonius Cordus to all citizens and peregrines,
greetings.

Here is my oath, in accordance with the Edictum
Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda
(the First Consular edict CFQ on the establishment of
the Cohors Consulis CFQ), paragraph X.

I, Aulus Apollonius Cordus, do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in
the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
while I hold this office, except when such action
would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Aulus Apollonius Cordus, further swear to fulfill
the obligations and Responsibilities of the office of
Accensus Ordinarius (Assistant Ordinary) to the best
of my Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Aulus Apollonius Cordus, swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any
information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Ordinarius (Assistant Ordinary) with all
the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6629 From: Legion XXIV Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Second and Legal Oath as a Rogator for Nova Roma
OK, Here is my legal oath as Rogator, as my first Oath was deemed
to be not legal and in conformance with the Lex of Nova Roma.
I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, George W. Metz, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a Rogator of Nova Roma, I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gallio Velius Marsallas, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Rogator to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Rogator and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Kalendae, Januarii, MMDCCLVI, AUC (1st day of January, 2003).












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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6630 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium
EDICTVM CVRATORIS DIFFERIUM
The Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differium
E Domo Curatoris Differium
F. Galerius Aurelanus Secundus & Saxus Pitrinius Atheniensis

are hereby appointed Scriba Curatoris Differium effective Today the
Kalends of Ianuarius MMDCCLVI auc 1 January 2003.
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6631 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-01
Subject: Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms
Salve Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

I was just rereading you email and the LIGHT when on!!!!

You say you wrote in law school a paper on Women in Roman Law. How about ,in addition to the Eagle Newsletter, the staff of the Curator Differium was to publish a scholarly journal on ROMAN anything. MA dissertations, PhD dissertation, Term paper whatever as long as it on Rome and is good. Do you still have you Women in Roman Law paper? We publish in book form. maybe some in Latin?

What do you think of this Idea?

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:22 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

I'll do it. I've had two courses in law school and numerous ones in college. The Twelve Tables, the Institutes of Gaius, the Corpus Juris Civilis, and the various codifications courtesy of Theodosious(sp?) and Justinian. Its been a while. I wrote a semester paper in law school on the status of women in Roman Law. I'm your man.







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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Gallagher
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


Salve Gaius, how about writing a column on ROMAN law for the Eagle

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms

Right. With a hard "v"







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----- Original Message -----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Senate Confidentiality-On Cigars & Smoke-filled Rooms


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:
> Salvete Gai Basilicate omnesque
>
> > No, it means three way road news guy.
>

Three way road is trivia.

Q. Cassius Calvus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6632 From: Jonas Nilsson Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of office as Prolegatus Regionis
I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson) further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Prolegatus Regionis
Suecicae to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Prolegatus Regionis Suecicae and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given 1st of January, in the year of the Consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6633 From: 3s@hsk-net.de Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Witness to the passing of imperium
I, Caius Flavius Diocletianus, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2756 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Caius Flavius Diocletianus
Censor, Senator
Lictor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6634 From: Manius Constantinus Serapio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Fwd: [Conclavis_Praeparatio_Cohors_Consulis] Please swear the OATH
CIVES NOVAE ROMAE

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when
such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of Accensus Senior Primus to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I,Manius Constantinus Serapio swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any
information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Senior Primus with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

OPTIME VALETE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Legatvs Externis Rebvs Provinciae Italiae
Accensvs Senior Primvs Consvlis Senioris
Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6635 From: Manius Constantinus Serapio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
CIVES NOVAE ROMAE

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Manius Constantinus
Serapio (Simone Lattes) swear to honor the Gods and
Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue
the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) swear
to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Manius Constantinus Serapio (Simone Lattes) further
swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities
of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

OPTIME VALETE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Qvaestor
Legatvs Externis Rebvs Provinciae Italiae
Accensvs Senior Primvs Consvlis Senioris
Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6636 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: oath of office
I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office,
except when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and Responsibilities of the office of Accensus
Superior Primus (Ductor Cohortis) to the best of my Abilities while
following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa) swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the
discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Superior Primus (Ductor
Cohortis) with all the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.

--
Caius Curius Saturninus

Legatus Regionis Finnicae
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Praeses et Triumvir Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6637 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: our visit to Propraetorium Thules
Salvete omnes,

I and Emilia Curia Finnica spent our last days of 2002 in the Sweden
as guests of now Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus. We enjoyed
our stay there and Caeso appeared to be a wonderful host. We had
great time, thanks Caeso and everyone who also were there! You can
read short diary and see some pictures at:

http://www.insulaumbra.com/regiofinnica/triptopropraetorium/index.html

Valete,
--
Caius Curius Saturninus

Legatus Regionis Finnicae
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Praeses et Triumvir Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6638 From: Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: oath as accensus
Salvete

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of senior consul Caeso
Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office, except
when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of accensus ordinarius to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, swear to give
faithful service to my magistrate, and not to divulge
any information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of accensus ordinarius with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Valete bene

=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6639 From: Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: oath as scriba curatoris differium
Salvete

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of curator differium
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus while I hold this office,
except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and Responsibilities of the
office of scriba curatoris differium to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and
ideals.

I, Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix, swear to give
faithful service to my magistrate, and not to divulge
any information discussed in confidence. I understand
that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of scriba curatoris differium with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Valete bene


=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
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Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
Scriba Propraetoris Galliae
Coryphaeus Sodalitatis Musarum
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6640 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Salvete,

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate
of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of
the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and
all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.



=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6641 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath as Accensus Superior Quartus
Salvete,

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo) , do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the
honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo), further swear to fulfill the obligations
and Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Superior Quartus to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Sextus Apollonius Scipio (Jean Noel Tribolo), swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I understand that
I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of
the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Accensus
Superior Quartus with all the privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant
thereto.

Valete,

=====
Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6642 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Iuramenta - Plebeian Aedile
Salvete omnia,

The gods are awaiting, so...







Ego, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) hoc ipso facto sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere. Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos)
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.


Ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) Romanam religionem favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat. Praeterea ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) IVRO quam optime fungi officium muneris Aedili Plebis.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Aedili Plebi ACCIPIO una cum iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Brasilia Provincia, 02 Ianuarius, anno MMDCCLVI A.V.C.


____________________________________________________________

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , por meio deste solenemente juro guardar a honra de Nova Roma, e trabalhar sempre para os melhores interesses do Senado e povo de Nova Roma.

Como um magistrado de Nova Roma, Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos), juro honrar os Deuses e Deusas de Roma nas minhas atividades públicas, bem como almejar as virtudes públicas romanas na minha vida pública e privada.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , juro sustentar e defender a Religio Romana como a Religião Estatal de Nova Roma e juro nunca agir de forma que vá ameaçar sua posição como religião oficial.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , juro proteger e defender a constituição de Nova Roma.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , no mais juro cumprir as obrigações e responsabilidades do cargo de edil plebeu no melhor de minhas habilidades.

Pela minha honra como cidadão de Nova Roma, na presença dos Deuses e Deusas do Povo Romano, pelas suas mercês e favores, aceito a magistratura de edil plebeu bem como todos seus direitos, privilégios, obrigações e responsabilidades decorrentes de agora em diante.

____________________________________________________________

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of plebeian aedile to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of plebeain aedile and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.







Valete,



L. Arminius Faustus

Senior Aedilis Plebis, Questor,

Interpreter (portuguese chair), Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae.

Visit my office at http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lafaustus/index.html



I too in words could fight even Immortals...

Iliad, Homer, book XX

The answer of Hector about Achilles' speeches.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6643 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Iuramenta - quaestor
Finally the Caqui Party has stopped on Announce List!





Ego, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) hoc ipso facto sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere. Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos)
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita persequi.


Ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) Romanam religionem favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat. Praeterea ego Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) IVRO quam optime fungi officium muneris Quaestori.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Quaestori ACCIPIO una cum iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Brasilia Provincia, 02 Ianuarius, anno MMDCCLVI A.V.C.


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Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , por meio deste solenemente juro guardar a honra de Nova Roma, e trabalhar sempre para os melhores interesses do Senado e povo de Nova Roma.

Como um magistrado de Nova Roma, Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos), juro honrar os Deuses e Deusas de Roma nas minhas atividades públicas, bem como almejar as virtudes públicas romanas na minha vida pública e privada.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , juro sustentar e defender a Religio Romana como a Religião Estatal de Nova Roma e juro nunca agir de forma que vá ameaçar sua posição como religião oficial.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , juro proteger e defender a constituição de Nova Roma.

Eu, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) , no mais juro cumprir as obrigações e responsabilidades do cargo de questor no melhor de minhas habilidades.

Pela minha honra como cidadão de Nova Roma, na presença dos Deuses e Deusas do Povo Romano, pelas suas mercês e favores, aceito a magistratura de questor bem como todos seus direitos, privilégios, obrigações e responsabilidades decorrentes de agora em diante.

____________________________________________________________

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Lucius Arminius Faustus (André L. Santos) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.







L. Arminius Faustus

Senior Aedilis Plebis, Questor,

Interpreter (portuguese chair), Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae.

Visit my office at http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lafaustus/index.html



I too in words could fight even Immortals...

Iliad, Homer, book XX

The answer of Hector about Achilles' speeches.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6644 From: Cheri Henderson Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Witness to the passing of imperium
I, Helena Galeria Aureliana, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the
Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium --
the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly
elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2756 AUC. I acknowledge
that
this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates
in
the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the
Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.


Helena Galeria - who posted for the wrong year previously :(
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6645 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath as Accensus Ordinarius
I, Flavius Galerius Aurelianus Secundus (aka Patrick D. Owen), do hereby solemnly swear to uphod the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Flavius Galerius Aurelianus Secundus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Accensus Ordinarius to the best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Flavius Galerius Aurelianus Secundus, swear to give faithful service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman People & the Gens Galeria, and by Their will and favor, do I accept the position of Accensus Ordinarius with all the obligations and responsibilities attendant thereto.

ante diem IV Nones Ian MMDCCLVI AUC (2nd January 2003 C.E.)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6646 From: TiAnO Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Salvete Quirites,

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold
the laws -- to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755
AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond
bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Valete in pace deorum et curate ut valeatis, TiAnO


Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO)
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
Homepage: http://www.tiano.ch.tt


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6647 From: Thomas Gangale Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
Salvete,

I, Marcus Martianus Gangalius, Lictor Novae
Romae and member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium--the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the
laws--to the duly elected Nova Roma magistrates for the year 2755 AUC. I
acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed
magistrates in the coming year,
both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of Nova
Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for the
positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Mars nos protegis,
M. Martianus Gangalius


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6648 From: TiAnO Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office - Translator for German
Salvete Quirites,
I come here before you this day, to swear my oath for another year in the position of the officially appointed translator for the German language. This position, so I was told, is a magistracy and therefore I find it only fair, that I renew the oath I took, when I was appointed. After the English text, a German version will follow.
Ich trete heute vor Euch, um meinen Eid f�r ein weiteres Jahr als offiziell ernannter �bersetzer f�r die deutsche Sprache zu erneuern. Diese Position, so wurde mir gesagt, ist eine Magistratur und deshalb finde ich es nur fair, wenn ich den Eid, welchen ich bei Amtsantritt get�tigt habe, nun erneuere. Eine deutsche Version des Eides folgt nach der englischen Version.
I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho (Thomas H�nzi), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a
way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of translator for German to the best of
my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of translator for German and all the rights,
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In the province of Germania, January 2nd, 2756 ab urbe condita.

Curate ut valeatis, TiAnO


Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO)
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
Homepage: http://www.tiano.ch.tt


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6649 From: TiAnO Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office - Scriba to the Legatus Germaniae Superioris
Salvete Quirites,
I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Quintus Quinctilius Varus Galili, while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of scriba to the best of my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of scriba with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

curate ut valeatis,
Only for the German speaking public: Dies hier ist der neue Amtseid f�r alle scriba und apparitoria in Nova Roma. Er ist noch nicht ganz offiziell, aber es kann nicht schaden, diesen einmal zu �berfliegen und zu �berdenken. Eine �bersetzung folgt erst, wenn er offiziell obligatorisch wird!!
Valete bene, TiAnO


Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO)
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
Homepage: http://www.tiano.ch.tt


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6650 From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Senior Curule Aedile
Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco
Valenzano) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Francesco Valenzano) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Senior Curule Aedile
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Senior Curule Aedile and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
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Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Academia Italica - http://italia.novaroma.org/academiaitalica
Yahoo Messanger: fapulus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6651 From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Accensus Consulis
Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quinitilianus while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar further swear to fulfill the obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Accensus Superior Secundus to the best of
my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensus Superior Secundus with all the
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete bene
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus -
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis
Academia Italica - http://italia.novaroma.org/academiaitalica
Yahoo Messanger: fapulus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6652 From: Franciscus Apulus Caesar Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: R: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!
Franciscus Apulus Caesar Caeso Fabio Quintiliano S.P.D.

Thank you very much, my boss!
I thing I has the most wonderful experience in Nova Roma working in your
Cohors Aedilis. Thanks to have given us the possibilities to develop and
improve our roman skills.
As Curule Aedile I hope to continue your job as well as your, you are my
model of Magistrate!
Thank you to all the colleagues of the Cohors Aedilis, it have been exciting
work togheter.

Valete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
-------------------------------------------
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
Scriba Curatoris Araneum
-------------------------------------------
Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Cohors Aedilis F. Apulus Caesar - http://italia.novaroma.org/fac
Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it
Academia Italica - http://italia.novaroma.org/academiaitalica
Yahoo Messanger: fapulus

----- Original Message -----
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 7:01 PM
Subject: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!


> Salvete all members of the Cohors Aedilis CFQ!
>
> I just want to once again thank You all from the bottom of my heart
> for your wonderful work for me in the Cohors Aedilis! Let's hope that
> next year will be good both privately and in Nova Roma!
>
> Hereby I release You all from your obligations in the Cohors Aedilis
> CFQ! See You all in the Cohors Consulis CFQ! ;-)
> --
>
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
> Senator et Senior Curule Aedile
> Propraetor Thules
> AUCTOR LEGIONIS, Legio VII "Res Publica"
> Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
> "Fautor Societatis Iuventutis Romanae"
> ************************************************
> Senior Consul Designatus MMDCCLVI A.U.C.
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/cfq_for_consul/index.html
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
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> ************************************************
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> Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6653 From: deciusiunius Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of imperium
I, Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and
uphold the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the
year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by
elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the
State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming
year.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6654 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium
I, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected duties and
uphold the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the
year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by
elected and appointed magistrates in the coming year, both on the
State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming
year.

Valete,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6655 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: R: [Cohors_Aedilis_C_Fabius_Q] A special thank You!
Salve Amice!

I am the one that shall thank You! The huge amount oif work You did
during my term makes You as I see it to one of the best Quaestores in
Nova Roma ever. Our work in the Cohors Aedilis thaught us all a "few"
things, but we were the teachers of each other. ;-) I am sure that
You will improve the quality of the work as a Senior Curule Aedile
during your term.

Our team was wonderful, I agree! Many of them continue together with
You, that will guarantee that You will continue with the successes!
;-)

>Franciscus Apulus Caesar Caeso Fabio Quintiliano S.P.D.
>
>Thank you very much, my boss!
>I thing I has the most wonderful experience in Nova Roma working in your
>Cohors Aedilis. Thanks to have given us the possibilities to develop and
>improve our roman skills.
>As Curule Aedile I hope to continue your job as well as your, you are my
>model of Magistrate!
>Thank you to all the colleagues of the Cohors Aedilis, it have been exciting
>work togheter.
>
>Valete
>Franciscus Apulus Caesar
>-------------------------------------------
>Senior Curule Aedile
>Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
>Vicarius Primus Ductoris Cohortis Consulis Quintilianis
>Accensus Superior Secundus Caput Officinae ad Consuetudines et
>Communicationes Consulis Quintilianis
>Scriba Curatoris Araneum
>-------------------------------------------

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6656 From: Thomas Gangale Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Vesting of Imperium please forward
-------- Forwarded message --------
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:35:55 EST
From: tgangale@...
Reply-to: ComitiaCuriata@yahoogroups.com
To: ComitiaCuriata@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ComitiaCuriata] Vesting of Imperium please forward



Salvete

Due to some reason I have been unsubscribed to the mainlist.� Would a Lictor

please forward my formulae to main list where
it may be witnessed?

Vale

LFM


I, Lucius Fabius Metellus, a Lictor of Novae Romae and

member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the

passing of Imperium -- the authority to carry out the elected duties and to

uphold the laws--to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755

AUC.

�� I acknowledge that this imperium will be held both by elected and

appointed magistrates in the coming year, both within the State and Provincial


levels.



May the Gods and the spirits of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates

of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their

Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred pact

bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.



Lucius Fabius Metellus

Nova Roman Lictor









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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6657 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Salve,

My congratulations to my gensmate Arnamentia Moravia on her appointment as
Accensus Ordinarius in the Cohors Consulis of C Fabius Quintilianus. I know
that you'll enjoy working for him!

My congratulations also to the rest of the new appointees to the Cohors
Consulis of CFQ! I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as the year
progresses.

And to another dear gensmate Laureatus Moravius:

<My heart today also goes to Diana Moravia : May our mater use her usual
brilliance and common sense in her office as tribuna plebis.

Are you sure that we are speaking about the same Diana Moravia ? ;-) But
thank you for your kind words!



Vale,
Diana

Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunis Plebis
Sacerdos Venus
http://www.gensmoravia.org
*******************************



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6658 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Diana Moravia Aventina writes:

> My congratulations also to the rest of the new appointees to the
> Cohors Consulis of CFQ!

Thank you, fair Tribuna.

> I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
> but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as
> the year progresses.

It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]


-- Marinus, with tongue firmly in cheek

1. A spelt cake for the first person to identify the reference.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6659 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Avete Omnes,


> I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
> but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as
> the year progresses.

It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

Sulla: Why have all these departments, why not cut out the middle man and do the work yourselves instead of having other people do it and you take credit for it?

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6660 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
> I will admit that so many new positions confuse me a bit,
> but I am sure that everyone's duties will become clearer to me as
> the year progresses.

It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

-- Marinus, with tongue firmly in cheek

1. A spelt cake for the first person to identify the reference.

A fairy godmother department ? Las, what happend to our beloved Godfathers
? Anyway, count me in ! LOL

Moravius Laureatus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6661 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
And to another dear gensmate Laureatus Moravius:

<My heart today also goes to Diana Moravia : May our mater use her usual
brilliance and common sense in her office as tribuna plebis.

Are you sure that we are speaking about the same Diana Moravia ? ;-) But
thank you for your kind words!

Vale,
Diana

[Laureatus Armoricus] Well, I also thought about other descriptives such as
"flaffing around" or "iron lady" but I'll stick to the official version : we
are on a public and respectable list after all ;-)

Well done to our soror Arnamentia ! and Congratulations to all the recently
appointed Accensi, although I am still writing it down to make sense of it
all...;-(

Moravius Laureatus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6662 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Earlier, I wrote (with tongue firmly in cheek):
> It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
> and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
> blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
> they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
> Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

Consular Sulla asks:
> Sulla: Why have all these departments, why not cut out the middle
> man and do the work yourselves instead of having other people do it
> and you take credit for it?

*grinning* Because we need to train the next generation of Fairy
Godmothers and Practical Jokers, of course.

(More seriously, because there's a lot of work to be done, and
division of labor is a good idea for both accomplishing a mission
and teaching people how things work.)

Sorry Consular, no spelt cake for you.

-- Marinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6663 From: Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: appointments
Thank you, Diana, I am enjoying myself already!

Happy New Year, everyone!

Arnamentia

_______________________________________________________

Message: 22
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:11:40 +0100
From: "Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@...>
Subject: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ

Salve,

My congratulations to my gensmate Arnamentia Moravia
on her appointment
as
Accensus Ordinarius in the Cohors Consulis of C Fabius
Quintilianus. I
know
that you'll enjoy working for him!


=====
Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia
http://www.gensmoravia.org

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6664 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Avete Omnes,
----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <equitius_marinus@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ


Earlier, I wrote (with tongue firmly in cheek):
> It's not that difficult. The accensi ordinari will do all the work,
> and the accensi superior like myself will take all the credit -- or
> blame. While the three officina have nice official sounding names,
> they're really the Surprise Party Department, the Practical Joke
> Department, and the Fairy Godmother Department.[1]

Consular Sulla asks:
> Sulla: Why have all these departments, why not cut out the middle
> man and do the work yourselves instead of having other people do it
> and you take credit for it?

*grinning* Because we need to train the next generation of Fairy
Godmothers and Practical Jokers, of course.

Sulla: How Roman.
(More seriously, because there's a lot of work to be done, and
division of labor is a good idea for both accomplishing a mission
and teaching people how things work.)

Sulla: Interesting. 15% of the population is active as citizens and you have to have a division of labor? When all of the consular magistrates are appointed I would love to see the ratio between consular magistrate and citizen (active citizen who voted in the last election) and then compare it to most macronational countries. <g>

Sorry Consular, no spelt cake for you.

Sulla: Not a problem for me. I always felt spelt cakes were for religious observances.

Vale,

Sulla

-- Marinus



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6665 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Eagle Deadline
Salve Nova Romans

Just a friendly reminder to ANYBODY and EVERBODY who expressed an interest or said they have something to submit for the January Eagle. The deadline was YESTERDAY. Please take a few minutes (or hours) to finish up what you are going to send and then PLEASE send it. THANKS, THANKS

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (He who hides until the first of January)
and the pest YOU elected Curator Differium 2755 (GRIN)


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6666 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Sulla: Interesting. 15% of the population is active as citizens and
you have to have a division of labor? When all of the consular magistrates
are appointed I would love to see the ratio between consular magistrate and
citizen (active citizen who voted in the last election) and then compare it
to most macronational countries. <g>

[Laureatus Armoricus] It would be very interesting indeed...but come to
think of it, what better way to raise spirits and encourage participation
than allowing our citizens to take part in the running of things ? A State
is only as strong as its weakest, least knowlegeable citizens. We can't
blame the consules to try to strenghen the base of our nation only by
providing work and clear goals to as many of us as possible.

Vale

Moravius Laureatus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6667 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
----- Original Message -----
From: Laureatus Armoricus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ



Sulla: Interesting. 15% of the population is active as citizens and
you have to have a division of labor? When all of the consular magistrates
are appointed I would love to see the ratio between consular magistrate and
citizen (active citizen who voted in the last election) and then compare it
to most macronational countries. <g>

[Laureatus Armoricus] It would be very interesting indeed...but come to
think of it, what better way to raise spirits and encourage participation
than allowing our citizens to take part in the running of things ? A State
is only as strong as its weakest, least knowlegeable citizens. We can't
blame the consules to try to strenghen the base of our nation only by
providing work and clear goals to as many of us as possible.

Vale

Sulla: I agree it would be interesting. I am personally glad our taxes do not go to pay anyone's salary, or I would be raising hell about this. <g> To appoint essentially useless magistrates (because according to Gn. Equtius the lower scribes do the work and the mid-level magistrates take the credit). I do not see how that encourages participation. But beyond that shouldn't our citizens wish to volunter their services to Rome without expecting a title or to be rewarded in some manner.

Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6668 From: salixdavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae
Populo atque Senatu agere.
Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sánchez
Molina), Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae
temporibus
atque Romanas virtutes et ublica et privata vita persequi.
Ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), Romanam
religionem
favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et
numquam
agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti
capiat.Praeterea ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina)
IVRO
quam optime fungi officium muneris Quaestoris.
Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et
eorum voluntate et favore, munus Quaestoris ACCIPIO una cum iuribus,
privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Hispania Provincia, ante Kalendas Ianuarii 2756 ab Vrbe condita.

--------------------------
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), do hereby solemnly
swear
to uphold the honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David
Sánchez
Molina), swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), swear to protect
and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina) further swear to
fulfil
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the
best
of my abilities.
On my honour as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour, do I
accept the
position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In Hispania Provincia, ante Kalendas Ianuarii 2756 ab Vrbe condita.
--- End forwarded message ---
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6669 From: salixdavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office as Quaestor
Ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae
Populo atque Senatu agere.
Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sánchez
Molina), Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae
temporibus
atque Romanas virtutes et ublica et privata vita persequi.
Ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), Romanam
religionem
favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et
numquam
agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti
capiat.Praeterea ego, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina)
IVRO
quam optime fungi officium muneris Quaestoris.
Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et
eorum voluntate et favore, munus Quaestoris ACCIPIO una cum iuribus,
privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Hispania Provincia, ante Kalendas Ianuarii 2756 ab Vrbe condita.

--------------------------
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), do hereby solemnly
swear
to uphold the honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David
Sánchez
Molina), swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina), swear to protect
and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Claudius Salix Davianus (David Sanchez Molina) further swear to
fulfil
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the
best
of my abilities.
On my honour as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour, do I
accept the
position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In Hispania Provincia, ante Kalendas Ianuarii 2756 ab Vrbe condita.
--- End forwarded message ---
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6670 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Appointment of Scribae
Edictum Aedilicium I Aedilis Curulis Gnaei Equitii Marini: Appointment
of Scribae

Gn. Equitius Marinus Aedilis Curulis Quiritibus salutem plurimam
dixit:

Gallus Minucius Iovinus, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, and Ivlia Aenea
Apollonia Musa are hereby appointed as my scribae, to serve as such
during my term of office as Curule Aedile throughout this upcoming
year.

Given under my hand in America Mediatlantica Provincia, ante diem
IV Nonas Ianuarius, MMDCCLVI a.u.c., this year of the consulship of
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus.

(02 Jan 2003 c.e.)

--
ex officio
Gn. Equitius Marinus
Curule Aedile
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6671 From: M. Octavius Solaris Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Salve mi Sulla!
Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

MOS: So much is true. And I recall that you prided yourself on it! :o)

Vale bene!
Solaris


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6672 From: Jonas Nilsson Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath of office for Accensi
I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus while I hold this office, except when
such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson), further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Aedilis Curalis to
the best of my abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gallus Minucius Iovinus (Jonas Nilsson), swear to give faithful service
to Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve as Scriba Aedilis Curalis
solely at the discretion of Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Scriba Aedilis Curalis with all the privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In Suecicae Regio, Thule Provincia, Kalends Ianuarias MMDCCLVI a.u.c.

Gallus Minucius Iovinus





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6673 From: lanius117@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Oath for Scriba Curatoris Differium
Gaius Lanius Falco Quiritibus S.P.D.

OATH

I, Gaius Lanius Falco (Vince Yurkunas), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator Differium, while I
hold this office, except when such action would be illegal or
unconstitutional.

I, Gaius Lanius Falco (Vince Yurkunas), further swear to fulfill the
obligations and
Responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curatoris Differium to the best of
my
Abilities while following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gaius Lanius Falco (Vince Yurkunas), swear to give faithful service to my
magistrate, and not to divulge any information discussed in
confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the discretion of my
magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Scriba Curatoris Differium with all the
privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Valete bene

Gaius Lanius Falco



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6674 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
Salve Senator Deci Iuni Palladi

Your explanation threw light on the matter, and I really appreciate it. Thank you very much






|Message: 7
| Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 04:04:12 -0000
| From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@...>" <bcatfd@...>
|Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
|
|
|Salve Senator L. Pompei,
|
|
||A quick definition is all magistrates elected by the people or
|appointed by the Senate. The quickest way to find them is to go the
|magistrates' page linked off the main Nova Roma page. There you will
|find censors, consuls, praetors, Tribunes of the Plebs, Aediles,
|quaestors, Curator Differum, Curator Araneum, rogators, interpreters.
|All these should take the oath. On the provincial level the governors
|and legates should take the oath as well.
|
|If a magistrate feels some need for his assistants (accensi, scribes,
|etc) to take an oath he is free I suppose to make one up for them,
|but it shouldn't be the magistrate's oath. The purpose of the
|magistrate's oath is primarily to protect the Religio Romana as the
|state religion of Nova Roma and protect the Constitution; it helps
|prevent magistrates from subverting them. It is a specific sacred
|obligation placed on the oath taker on top of the obligations given
|the magistrate by the People or the Senate. Apparitores are easy to
|get out of office, they are personal assistants that serve at the
|whim of their magistrate--who can release them at any time. A
|magistracy is a more serious position that cannot be released at
|whim.
|
|Vale,
|
|Decius Iunius Palladius



Vale bene

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6675 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
Salve Quinte Fabius Maxime


|Message: 25
| Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 16:05:21 EST
| From: qfabiusmaxmi@...
|Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
|
| The next question has to be, what exactly do you guys do? You oversee the
|races? That's the Aedile's job. Your methodology makes no sense. I have
|designed gaming systems for years now, and I never understood yours. When I
|ran the races for the Ludi, I used a miniature game with actual players and
|chariot models, then posted the account of the race. There was actually a
|competition between the players. Since the citizens could not bet because we
|cannot run a lotterly according the US government, the real point of the
|chariot race was moot, and I stopped it. If I was going to redo this today,
|I'd work on visual representation. We now have digital cameras and the
|ability to stream video. That would be the starting point.
|
|Q. Fabius Maximus

To tell the truth I would like to see a visual game too. Anyway, last year ludi circenses were very exciting for me despite the fact that it was only text. They've done a very nice job, I think. On the other way, I think that video wouldn't be the best solution for a dial-up connection with a 56k modem. At least whenever I want to see video in Internet, the video becomes desesperately slowly and its quality is really awfull.


Bene vale

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6676 From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Congratulations
Salve Senior Consul et Senator Caeso Fabi Quintiliane

First of all congratulations for your new office of Senior Consul.
I am glad that the matter of oaths has been solved. I read the text of the oath for the apparitores and think it is very well suited.
By the way I think Senator Decius Iunius Palladius threw light on the matter brilliantly.


|It is good to hear that You are OK! I wish You all the |Luck in the
|future and I really appreciate your friendship. I hope that we soon
|may sit together on the marble benches of the Senate! ;-)


Maximas Gratias amice!. By the way, I am already sitting on the benches of the Senate since the month of December :-) .

Habeas fortunam optimam

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6677 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Sulla: I agree it would be interesting. I am personally glad our taxes
do not go to pay anyone's salary, or I would be raising hell about this. <g>
To appoint essentially useless magistrates (because according to Gn. Equtius
the lower scribes do the work and the mid-level magistrates take the
credit). I do not see how that encourages participation. But beyond that
shouldn't our citizens wish to volunter their services to Rome without
expecting a title or to be rewarded in some manner.

[Laureatus Armoricus respondet] It seemed to me that Gn. Equitius used a
humorous tone when refering to the respective duties of the Accensi (hence
the "tongue in cheek" quote)...I of course have no doubt that they will ALL
work and do their utmost to develop Nova Roma according to the platforms
both Consules have been elected on. The fact that the said consules clearly
admitted that they couldn't be everywhere all the time seems an honest and
realistic view of the current affairs and I have personally no objection to
an official college of assistants (note, please, that we are not talking of
a government, rather a consilium) which was always in effect in previous
consulships but took the form of an informal club of gentlemen.

Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our
citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in
Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint
someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and
responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of
bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been
labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

[Laureatus Armoricus respondet] Recognition of the work required and done is
only one of the tools of good management. Perhaps the consules merely
attempted to create a team spirit that will benefit the community as a whole
when the job is done right and conscienciously by a motivated group.

As a last note, I do not believe that the work of the consules cheapens the
role of those occupying a public position nor does it create an army of
bureaucrats : It simply states what objectives our senior magistrates have
set for themselves and recognizes officially who will be the "little
helpers" who have so willingly offered the Res Publica their time and sweat.
Of course it is by no means a way of saying that they will take care of
everything and install some kind of centralised government (gods forbid)!
Diana Moravia for instance is now organising regular meeting in Gallia and
as far as I know she is not part of the team of accensi. There are many
other examples of such events, one just has to read the archives of the main
list to be convinced of the well being of Nova Roma. I am sure that an
official framework to develop such social gatherings, and indeed any
collective work between dedicated citizens, will not hinder the growth of
Nova Roma but will, on the contrary, provide support and advice to would be
organisers. But it comes at a prize : The necessary appointment of stable
volunteers who can serve as first port of call. Their name and number (call
them Accensi, little elves or "unappointed friends who came to help") is,
in my humble opinion, a matter of appreciation and secondary debate.

But my views may be biased and I am looking forward to some more healthy
discussion. Perhaps Titus Labienus Fortunatus or Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
our consules, could enlighten us as to where they stand, although the
constitution gives them the right and imperium to appoint assistants as they
see fit.

In any case, Corneli Sulla, I agree with you on the underlying issue : We
really need a census, soon, so we can contemplate the future of our
community and the way it is led on a sound and realistic basis. I thank you
for your input and will be happy to keep my mind open to some objections
that I may have overlooked.

Optime vale

Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
Citizen without official title ;-)





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6678 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Avete Omnes,
----- Original Message -----
From: Laureatus Armoricus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ


Sulla: I agree it would be interesting. I am personally glad our taxes
do not go to pay anyone's salary, or I would be raising hell about this. <g>
To appoint essentially useless magistrates (because according to Gn. Equtius
the lower scribes do the work and the mid-level magistrates take the
credit). I do not see how that encourages participation. But beyond that
shouldn't our citizens wish to volunter their services to Rome without
expecting a title or to be rewarded in some manner.

[Laureatus Armoricus respondet] It seemed to me that Gn. Equitius used a
humorous tone when refering to the respective duties of the Accensi (hence
the "tongue in cheek" quote)...I of course have no doubt that they will ALL
work and do their utmost to develop Nova Roma according to the platforms
both Consules have been elected on. The fact that the said consules clearly
admitted that they couldn't be everywhere all the time seems an honest and
realistic view of the current affairs and I have personally no objection to
an official college of assistants (note, please, that we are not talking of
a government, rather a consilium) which was always in effect in previous
consulships but took the form of an informal club of gentlemen.

Sulla Response: Humorous or not it is a telling remark. I remember last year that Propraetor Caeso Fabius had to fire at least two scribes for not doing their duty. How long did it take him to discover this? If those citizens still get century points for payment, what service did they render to deserve any payment. How long will it take for Consul Caeso Fabius to realize that members of his "consilium" are not doing their jobs. Now, since this is a "consilium" and not a government, should these individuals be awarded with century points? And, I must dispute your final sentence, my staff was not an informal club, it was a staff. This "consilium" is more like an army of clients.

Sulla: As for encouraging participation, there is nothing to prevent our
citizens from posting anything they want on the ML, or getting involved in
Sodalitas, trying to establish face to face meetings. But to appoint
someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and
responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of
bureaucrats. And you should note that this coming from someone who has been
labelled as a bureaucrat by M. Octavius Solaris.

[Laureatus Armoricus respondet] Recognition of the work required and done is
only one of the tools of good management. Perhaps the consules merely
attempted to create a team spirit that will benefit the community as a whole
when the job is done right and conscienciously by a motivated group.

Sulla: What work requires the staff of 26 people or 10.8% of the entire active population of Nova Roma?

As a last note, I do not believe that the work of the consules cheapens the
role of those occupying a public position nor does it create an army of
bureaucrats :

Sulla: You misread my statement, I stated, "But to appoint someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapens the role and responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of bureaucrats." In otherwords he is cheapening the position of scribes and those who held the position before by his poltical spoils system.

It simply states what objectives our senior magistrates have
set for themselves and recognizes officially who will be the "little
helpers" who have so willingly offered the Res Publica their time and sweat.

Sulla: "Little Helpers." Interesting description. I certainly never considered my staff as little helpers. Instead I trusted them and held them in my confidence.

Of course it is by no means a way of saying that they will take care of
everything and install some kind of centralised government (gods forbid)!

Sulla: Why that is what was done in Thule, where 1/3 of the province citizens were titled magistrates.


Diana Moravia for instance is now organising regular meeting in Gallia and
as far as I know she is not part of the team of accensi.

Sulla: She is a Tribune of the Plebs, it would be unethical for a Tribune to be in the staff of a Patrician Consul! How could she protect the rights of the Plebs if she is under oath to a Patrician Consul!


There are many
other examples of such events, one just has to read the archives of the main
list to be convinced of the well being of Nova Roma. I am sure that an
official framework to develop such social gatherings, and indeed any
collective work between dedicated citizens, will not hinder the growth of
Nova Roma but will, on the contrary, provide support and advice to would be
organisers.

Sulla: We shall see.

But it comes at a prize : The necessary appointment of stable
volunteers who can serve as first port of call.

Sulla: Sure and how long will it take for oversight to take place. I am certain that it is far easier for a Consul to surpvise 4 staff members than to have a Consul administer 26 staff members.

Their name and number (call
them Accensi, little elves or "unappointed friends who came to help") is,
in my humble opinion, a matter of appreciation and secondary debate.

Sulla: I disagree if they all get century points, and that is a form of payment.

But my views may be biased and I am looking forward to some more healthy
discussion. Perhaps Titus Labienus Fortunatus or Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
our consules, could enlighten us as to where they stand, although the
constitution gives them the right and imperium to appoint assistants as they
see fit.

Sulla: Yes it will be interesting to see their comments, though I reckon I know what at least Consul Caeso Fabius will say.

In any case, Corneli Sulla, I agree with you on the underlying issue : We
really need a census, soon, so we can contemplate the future of our
community and the way it is led on a sound and realistic basis. I thank you
for your input and will be happy to keep my mind open to some objections
that I may have overlooked.

Sulla: Thank you for your agreement here. I am looking forward for my law to be put to the test to see if it truly needs revision.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


Optime vale

Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6679 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Congratulations
Salve Colleague!

>First of all congratulations for your new office of Senior Consul.

Thank You for your kind words.

>I am glad that the matter of oaths has been solved. I read the text
>of the oath for the apparitores and think it is very well suited.

Yes, I found a good solution with the help of Illustrus Decius Iunius
Palladius, my colleague and some others.

>By the way I think Senator Decius Iunius Palladius threw light on
>the matter brilliantly.

I agree!

>|It is good to hear that You are OK! I wish You all the |Luck in the
>|future and I really appreciate your friendship. I hope that we soon
>|may sit together on the marble benches of the Senate! ;-)
>
>
>Maximas Gratias amice!. By the way, I am already sitting on the
>benches of the Senate since the month of December :-) .

Yes I know, but You haven't attended a official meeting yet (or is my
memory totally wrong?), that was what I meant. ;-)

>Habeas fortunam optimam
>
>Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
>Senator
>Tribunus Plebis
>Dominus Factionis Veneta
>Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
>http://argentina.novaroma.org

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6680 From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: The Cohors Consulis CFQ and questions
Salve Quirites!

There has been some questions about how my Cohors really is built and
why it is so big..

These question were expected. You have already got the humorous
answer, it is all about fairy tales and You also got some serious
answers. Some citizens suggested that it is about need for
assistance, commitment, training and participation. All these are
correct, but I could write an entire articleon these themes, adding
even more arguments. But this is about answers, so here they come
(still I couldn't make it short ;-) ):

First how is it structured? Look at this map!


(If You can't recieve this map through Yahoo Groups! send for a copy
from Honorable Caius Curius Saturninus <c.curius@...> who is my
Ductor Cohortis.

The Conclave is the place where all in the Cohors meet. There are
three Officinas that are specialised in different areas, just look at
Edictum Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda (The
First Consular edict CFQ on the establishment of the Cohors Consulis
CFQ). Many Accensi have two titles, not because I like titles, but
because our Coinstitution only mentions Accensi as the assistants of
a Consul, the second title is the more descriptive title only
established in my Edictum during my term.

==================
Secondly why is it so big?

First of all because I have set high goals, I will try to achieve
them, but to do that I will need assistants.

Secondly The total number is 21 Accensi, but I would say that I in
reallity don't have that many assistants.*

In the end I guess that I will work slightly less than my whole
Cohors together. Is it wrong for a Consul to have that kind of
assistance? No, of course not, at least I don't think so!

Then why do I have this number of assistants. One reason is that they
have knowledge and competence that I don't have and another reason is
that with them at my side I probably will have to work half as much
as I would do without them. Without my Cohors I would probably not
have the strength to be a Consul, as someone said, with high
ambitions.

Of course I am aware of the fact that high ambitions and many good
assistants will not guarantee that I or anyone else will achieve
much. The only forces that can guarantee that I can achive anything
in the end are my Fellow Senators, the Co-Consul, the other
Magistrati for this year and the Populus in the Comitiae. If I don't
have the needed support there I will achieve less, even if both my
assistants and I work very hard. But I am sure that my colleague and
I will get this support and I am _very_ optimistic about the
possibilities for this year's Consuls to contribute to the
development of Nova Roma! ;-)

=================
* Please bear with me, I am going to crunch numbers just to show that
the Cohors isn't that big. My assistants are in many instances people
with full time jobs, families and houses and some are full time
students. If we don't count sleeping, eating, travelling to work,
working, caring for houses, kids, parents and so on, I would guess
that most have about one hour for personal hobbies (which Nova Roma
is to most ;-) ) per day. If my Accensi give Nova Roma half of that
time and then again half of that to my Cohors and the other half to
other activities in Nova Roma (many are Scriba to other Magistrati or
Governors too). This would give me 0,25 hour per Accensi per day
(this is probably a high number), with 21 Accensi that would be a
little more than 5 hours per day. In a normal week I guess I will
work about 4 hours per day as a Consul (I worked a little less than 3
hours per day as an Curule Aedile). As You see I probably will work
more than 75% of the time the whole Cohors is able to give to
assisting me as a Consul. I am sure that I will not be surprised to
see some of my Accensi work much more than that but, on the other
hand, some may not able to work even 0,25 hours per day, because of
personal reasons.
=============
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6681 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: The Cohors Consulis CFQ and questions
Avete Omnes et Consul Caeso Fabius,

Please bear with me on my prolonged response.
----- Original Message -----
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] The Cohors Consulis CFQ and questions


Salve Quirites!

There has been some questions about how my Cohors really is built and
why it is so big..

Sulla: Not so much as questions but legitimate criticisms of the spoils system you have created.

These question were expected.

Sulla: I am sure they were and I am sure that your concilium prepared part of this response for you.

You have already got the humorous
answer, it is all about fairy tales and You also got some serious
answers. Some citizens suggested that it is about need for
assistance, commitment, training and participation. All these are
correct, but I could write an entire articleon these themes, adding
even more arguments. But this is about answers, so here they come
(still I couldn't make it short ;-) ):

Sulla: But we still have not been given a satisfactory answer to employ over 10% of the active Nova Roman population as part of your staff.

First how is it structured? Look at this map!

Sulla: Consul, there are no attachments on Yahoogroups.

(If You can't recieve this map through Yahoo Groups! send for a copy
from Honorable Caius Curius Saturninus <c.curius@...> who is my
Ductor Cohortis.

Sulla: I already have one, thank you and it l ists 26 individuals.

The Conclave is the place where all in the Cohors meet. There are
three Officinas that are specialised in different areas, just look at
Edictum Consulare CFQ I de Cohorte Consulis CFQ Constituenda (The
First Consular edict CFQ on the establishment of the Cohors Consulis
CFQ). Many Accensi have two titles, not because I like titles, but
because our Coinstitution only mentions Accensi as the assistants of
a Consul, the second title is the more descriptive title only
established in my Edictum during my term.

Sulla: According to the chart I have, I see 26 individual:

Senator M. Municius Audens, Senator Patricia Cassia (II), Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, C. Curius Saturnius, M. Constantianus Serapio, Sex. Apollonius Scipio (II), T. Octavius Pius (II), Tib. Apollonius Cictriax, Fla. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus, L. Rutilius Minervalis, Fran. Apulius Caesar, Julillia Sempronia Magna, Emilia Curia Finnica, Lucius Salix Cicero, Arnamentia Moravia, Ti. Arminius Genalis, Gn. Equitius Marinius, Gn. Salix Galaicus, Gn. Octavius Noricus, C. Minucius Scaevola, Gaia Fabia Livia, A. Apollonius Cordus, Sp. Postimus Tubertius. WHEW done! Only three are listed in duplicate.

==================
Secondly why is it so big?

First of all because I have set high goals, I will try to achieve
them, but to do that I will need assistants.

Sulla: I understand that but still 10% of the active population of Nova Roma?

Secondly The total number is 21 Accensi, but I would say that I in
reallity don't have that many assistants.*

Sulla: Your figures are wrong Consul, its 26 with 3 duplicates.

In the end I guess that I will work slightly less than my whole
Cohors together. Is it wrong for a Consul to have that kind of
assistance? No, of course not, at least I don't think so!

Sulla: No one has claimed that it is wrong Consul. However, 26 staff members is excessive. Its overly bureaucratic and I do not see how it is necessary.

Then why do I have this number of assistants. One reason is that they
have knowledge and competence that I don't have and another reason is
that with them at my side I probably will have to work half as much
as I would do without them. Without my Cohors I would probably not
have the strength to be a Consul, as someone said, with high
ambitions.

Sulla: I must ask, where do your competencies lie then? Besides promulgating edicts to appoint people to your staff?

<Snip>

=================
* Please bear with me, I am going to crunch numbers just to show that
the Cohors isn't that big. My assistants are in many instances people
with full time jobs, families and houses and some are full time
students. If we don't count sleeping, eating, travelling to work,
working, caring for houses, kids, parents and so on, I would guess
that most have about one hour for personal hobbies (which Nova Roma
is to most ;-) ) per day. If my Accensi give Nova Roma half of that
time and then again half of that to my Cohors and the other half to
other activities in Nova Roma (many are Scriba to other Magistrati or
Governors too). This would give me 0,25 hour per Accensi per day
(this is probably a high number), with 21 Accensi that would be a
little more than 5 hours per day. In a normal week I guess I will
work about 4 hours per day as a Consul (I worked a little less than 3
hours per day as an Curule Aedile). As You see I probably will work
more than 75% of the time the whole Cohors is able to give to
assisting me as a Consul. I am sure that I will not be surprised to
see some of my Accensi work much more than that but, on the other
hand, some may not able to work even 0,25 hours per day, because of
personal reasons.
=============

Sulla: Consul you do realize that all of our previous consuls have had staff who were affected by real life events. During this past year two of my staff members, Senator Lucius Sicinius Drusus and Senator Decius Iunius Invictus both suffered deaths in their family their absence did not prevent me from doing my duties and drafting laws. I am certain that my colleague had staff members affected by prolonged illnesses as well. My point is, that you should be able to do the job yourself as well. Your statement here leads me to believe that you have appointed a large staff to balance your own inadequacies. I certainly hope that is not the case for Nova Roma sake.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6682 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Salve Senator Corneli,

> To appoint essentially useless magistrates (because according to Gn. Equtius
> the lower scribes do the work and the mid-level magistrates take the
> credit).

That was obviously a joke.

> I do not see how that encourages participation. But beyond that
> shouldn't our citizens wish to volunter their services to Rome without
> expecting a title or to be rewarded in some manner.

No one wants to do work without recognition. We're not handing out titles
like "Imperator" to anyone that asks for it; the appointed positions carry
the humble title of "Scriba" - a small compensation for the work that is
being done.

> Sulla Response: Humorous or not it is a telling remark. I remember
> last year that Propraetor Caeso Fabius had to fire at least two scribes
> for not doing their duty. How long did it take him to discover this?

Presumably he gave them a chance to improve their performance before making
the final decision.

> If those citizens still get century points for payment,
> what service did they render to deserve any payment.

Scribae do not get century points after leaving that position.

> How long will it take for Consul Caeso Fabius to realize that members i
> of his "consilium" are not doing their jobs.

So, are you saying he's incompetent to supervise appointees?

Considering how structured his staff is, I would expect that the senior
members would inform the consul if anyone they work with seems to be
useless.

> Now, since this is a "consilium" and not a government,
> should these individuals be awarded with century points?

Yes. They'll be doing work, and will get a small temporary award for
doing so.

> But to appoint someone a scribe to "motivate them" seems to cheapen the role and
> responsbility of those who held those positions prior to this army of
> bureaucrats.

Have we heard any recent scribae objecting to the new appointments?

> Sulla: What work requires the staff of 26 people or 10.8% of the entire
> active population of Nova Roma?

Considering how much he accomplished as Propraetor and Aedile, I think Consul
Fabius can judge better than anyone how much work there is to do, how many
people are required to do it, and how best to motivate them.

> In otherwords he is cheapening the position of scribes and those who held
> the position before by his poltical spoils system.

Absurd. His scribae and accensi will do just as much work as any previous
scribae or accensi.

> Sulla: Why that is what was done in Thule, where 1/3 of the province
> citizens were titled magistrates.

How many other provinciae have an Academia? Thule is a model of the *right*
way to create a provincial staff.

> Sulla: She [Diana Moravia] is a Tribune of the Plebs, it would be
> unethical for a Tribune to be in the staff of a Patrician Consul!
> How could she protect the rights of the Plebs if she is under
> oath to a Patrician Consul!

Indeed. Fortunately, Diana Moravia is not a member of either Consul's staff.

Now, as for unethical... two years ago, did not a newly elected tribune confess
to being a "client" of one of the Censores of that time, and reveal this only
after winning the election?

> Sulla: Sure and how long will it take for oversight to take place. I am
> certain that it is far easier for a Consul to surpvise 4 staff members
> than to have a Consul administer 26 staff members.

Considering how well he did with a large staff last year, I don't expect any
problems at all supervising the current group of accensi.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6683 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: the CFQ and questions
In a message dated 1/2/03 4:35:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
christer.edling@... writes:


> Secondly The total number is 21 Accensi, but I would say that I in
> reallity don't have that many assistants.*
>
>

Really Consul? I got by with one scribe, and one accensus. Ah but Rome was
smaller then.
Wait! We have no idea our size until we carry out a census. And when will
that be?

Q Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6684 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso against
Edictum Consulare CFQ II de Nominationibus in Cohorte Consulis CFQ
(The Second Consular edict CFQ II on the appointments in the Cohors
Consulis CFQ)

Whereas: The Constitution of Nova Roma guarantees the right to
appeal to the State for assistance in Article II, Section b,
subsection 7. I, Quintus Cassius Calvus, do hereby petition the
Tribunes of the Plebs to exercise their right of Intercesso against
Edictum Consulare CFQ II de Nominationibus in Cohorte Consulis CFQ
(The Second Consular edict CFQ II on the appointments in the Cohors
Consulis CFQ).

Whereas: I, Quintus Cassius Calvus, duly elected magistrate of Nova
Roma in the office of Rogator, and duly sworn to Protect and Defend
the Constitution of Nova Roma and to act in the best interests of the
Senate and People of Nova Roma as per the LEX IUNIA DE IUSIURANDO

I make this petition on the grounds that Spurius Postumius Tubertus,
appointed Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in the Officina Iuris et Rei
Politicae in Article V., subsection c. is a minor and has no legal
standing to give consent to make any oath as required in Edictum
Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The Third Consular
Edict Concerning the Oath of Attendants/Apparitores)

I also make this petition on the grounds that Titus Arminius
Genialis, appointed Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in the Officina ad
Consuetudines et Communicationes in Article III, subsection C is a
minor and has no legal standing to give consent to make any oath as
required in Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium (The
Third Consular Edict Concerning the Oath of Attendants/Apparitores)

As the two previously named individuals are minors and have no legal
standing to give consent, and I am duly sworn to protect and defend
the Senate and People of Nova Roma, I regret to make this petition.
It is my duty to protect the Senate and People of Nova Roma from
potential litigation in macronational courts of law. Requiring
oaths and appointment of minors to positions of Apparitores as
defined in the Constitution of Nova Roma Article IV, section 9.
leaves Nova Roma vulnerable to potential litigation in macronational
courts of law.

Quintus Cassius Calvus
Rogator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6685 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
In a message dated 1/2/03 5:20:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, hucke@...
writes:


> How many other provinciae have an Academia? Thule is a model of the *right*
> way to create a provincial staff.
>

You have to be joking! What was Confucius quote, the more government
offices,
the less you accomplish?

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6686 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ II
In a message dated 1/2/03 5:20:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, hucke@...
writes:


> Now, as for unethical... two years ago, did not a newly elected tribune
> confess
> to being a "client" of one of the Censores of that time, and reveal this
> only
> after winning the election?
>
>

Oh yes, I remember. And the republic collapsed because of it. Really Marcus
Octavius, I know you hate historical precedent, but lots of Tribunes were
clients of Patricians in old Rome. I believe that Lucius Cornelius was
referring to a dilemma that said Tribune might find herself in if she was
still on the staff. He wanted to avoid that.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6687 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve Quinte Cassi,

> Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso against
> Edictum Consulare CFQ II de Nominationibus in Cohorte Consulis CFQ
> (The Second Consular edict CFQ II on the appointments in the Cohors
> Consulis CFQ)

Interesting. Did you approach Consul Fabius with your concerns? Or
is the first you've spoken of it? If the latter, then I'd suspect
a political motive rather than a genuine concern.

Vale, Octavius.

--
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6688 From: Gnaeus Salix Astur Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: [ComitiaCuriata] Sample text for the vesting of Imperium
Cn. Salix Astur lictor curiatus Quiritibus Romanis S.P.D.


I, Gnaeus Salix Astur, Lictor Novae Romae and member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium -- the
power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws --to the duly
elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2755 AUC. I acknowledge that
this imperium will be held both by elected and appointed magistrates in
the coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6689 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Salve Senator Quinte Fabi,

> > How many other provinciae have an Academia? Thule is a model of the *right*
> > way to create a provincial staff.
>
> You have to be joking! What was Confucius quote, the more government
> offices, the less you accomplish?

Not at all. Confucius apparently never made it to Thule.

What other Propraetor has accomplished so much as Caeso Fabius? What other
Aedile has accomplished so much?

His outstanding record shows that having a large staff can be beneficial.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6690 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:

> Interesting. Did you approach Consul Fabius with your concerns? Or
> is the first you've spoken of it? If the latter, then I'd suspect
> a political motive rather than a genuine concern.
>

Salve,

I am following the procedures as defined by the Constitution of Nova
Roma. I have petitioned the Tribunes to what I see as a potential
legal liabilitity. As a Consul's Edict has the force of law, it is
neccessary to have that law either upheld or struck according to the
rule of law. I am responsible to the Senate and People of Nova Roma
as a duly elected magistrate. That responsiblity includes
transparency in following the rule of law, not through behind the
scenes machinations and back room deals.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6691 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Thanks and compliments
Salve, Fauste, et salvete omnes


The year finished, and i am no more the Tribunus
Plebis.

Many thanks to my fellow former Tribunes, Claudius
Salix, Manius Villius and Lucius Mauricius, and
specially to Gnaeus Salix Astur, who in my opinion was
the best Tribune of last year.

I welcome the new Tribunes, Diana Moravia, Marcus
Marcius and Lucius Pompeius. Good luck in your
offices, may Ceres, favorite deity of the Plebs, help
you.

I want to thank to the Plebs and to Nova Roma for this
opportunity, and to my former Tribunician Scribe,
Lucius Arminius Faustus, for their excellent job.

Fauste will continue to be my provincial Scribe, and
now he is Quaestor, and Aedilis Plebis! My deepest
congratulations, and may the gods help you in this
year.


Valete
Marcus Arminius Maior
Senator
Propraetor Brasiliae


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6692 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve Quinte Cassi,

> I am following the procedures as defined by the Constitution of Nova Roma.

Certainly; I don't dispute that.

You are within your legal rights to ask the Tribunes to veto anything
whatsoever.

While it would have been polite, considerate, and constructive to
write to the Consul directly and ask him to modify the edict, none of
those things are required by the Constitution. Instead, the Constitution
permits magistrates to make a public spectable over trivial matters if
they see fit.

> That responsiblity includes transparency in following the rule of law,
> not through behind the scenes machinations and back room deals.

Machinations? Back room deals?

It is now a "back room deal" to privately question an edict before
challenging it publically?

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6693 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: about Q.F. Maximus antiquo on the oath as dominus factionis
Salvete

--- Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
<danielovi@...> escreveu: > Salve Senator
Deci Iuni Palladi
[..]
> |Salve Senator L. Pompei,
> |
> ||A quick definition is all magistrates elected by
> the people or
> |appointed by the Senate. The quickest way to find
> them is to go the
> |magistrates' page linked off the main Nova Roma
> page. There you will
> |find censors, consuls, praetors, Tribunes of the
> Plebs, Aediles,
> |quaestors, Curator Differum, Curator Araneum,
> rogators, interpreters.

M.ARMINIUS: Just a small remak, the Interpretes are a
Decuria of the Apparitures, they have the same status
of the Assensi, Lictores and Scribes.

> |All these should take the oath. On the provincial
> level the governors
> |and legates should take the oath as well.
> |
> |If a magistrate feels some need for his assistants
> (accensi, scribes,
> |etc) to take an oath he is free I suppose to make
> one up for them,
> |but it shouldn't be the magistrate's oath.
[..]
> |Vale,
> |Decius Iunius Palladius
>
> Vale bene
> Lucius Pompeius Octavianus

Vale
Marcus Arminius Maior

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6694 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:
>
> Salve Quinte Cassi,
>
> > I am following the procedures as defined by the Constitution of
Nova Roma.
>
> Certainly; I don't dispute that.
>
> You are within your legal rights to ask the Tribunes to veto
anything
> whatsoever.
>
> While it would have been polite, considerate, and constructive to
> write to the Consul directly and ask him to modify the edict, none
of
> those things are required by the Constitution. Instead, the
Constitution
> permits magistrates to make a public spectable over trivial matters
if
> they see fit.

Cut to the chase. You see this as political machinations ect. If it
were political machinations I would have PRIVATELY petitioned the
tribunes. And what office am I supposedly aspiring to next year? Oh
that's right I can't run for office next year, never mind.

An Edict is a matter of public record once issued. I have voiced
concern only two sections of the Edict. Remember that Nova Roma is
not only a "nation," it is a legal corporation subject to the
macronational laws of the political subdivision in which is it
incorporated. My petition is a matter of public record in which I
am not only attempting to protect Nova Roma from a potential legal
situation, but also protecting my own self as a magistrate of Nova
Roma. Should a legal situation arise, it is now public record that I
brought this before the internal organization of Nova Roma through
the internal structure of the corporation. I'm not only protecting
Nova Roma, I'm protecting my own wallet.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6695 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve Quinte Cassi,

> Cut to the chase. You see this as political machinations ect.

Yes.

> If it were political machinations I would have PRIVATELY petitioned the
> tribunes.

If it were a legitimate concern you would have PRIVATELY petitioned the
Consul, then gone to the Tribunes only if he was uncooperative.

> And what office am I supposedly aspiring to next year? Oh
> that's right I can't run for office next year, never mind.

I can't run for office next year either. Are you and I, therefore,
both equally unable to act from political motivation?

At the very same time that one of the new Consuls has come under
attack for the size of his staff, you launch another attack on
a related subject, by trying to get the Tribunes to act against
him. You did not try to resolve the situation peacefully with the
Consul; you sought to create a conflict within the magistrates over a
trivial issue that could have easily been resolved peacefully.

> My petition is a matter of public record in which I
> am not only attempting to protect Nova Roma from a potential legal
> situation, but also protecting my own self as a magistrate of Nova
> Roma.

You are not a director or board member of this corporation, you
are a volunteer. Your exposure to liability would be insignificant -
even if there were any actual risk from this situation.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6696 From: L. Cornelius Sulla Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Avete Omnes,

Whatever criticisms you believe that Q. Cassius had it does not take away from the merit of his request for a veto of Consul Caeso Fabius's edict. He is Consul and should realize that when you are consul your edicts and laws are under scrutiny.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso


Salve Quinte Cassi,

> Cut to the chase. You see this as political machinations ect.

Yes.

> If it were political machinations I would have PRIVATELY petitioned the
> tribunes.

If it were a legitimate concern you would have PRIVATELY petitioned the
Consul, then gone to the Tribunes only if he was uncooperative.

> And what office am I supposedly aspiring to next year? Oh
> that's right I can't run for office next year, never mind.

I can't run for office next year either. Are you and I, therefore,
both equally unable to act from political motivation?

At the very same time that one of the new Consuls has come under
attack for the size of his staff, you launch another attack on
a related subject, by trying to get the Tribunes to act against
him. You did not try to resolve the situation peacefully with the
Consul; you sought to create a conflict within the magistrates over a
trivial issue that could have easily been resolved peacefully.

> My petition is a matter of public record in which I
> am not only attempting to protect Nova Roma from a potential legal
> situation, but also protecting my own self as a magistrate of Nova
> Roma.

You are not a director or board member of this corporation, you
are a volunteer. Your exposure to liability would be insignificant -
even if there were any actual risk from this situation.

Vale, Octavius.

--
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6697 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:
> Salve Quinte Cassi,
>
> > Cut to the chase. You see this as political machinations ect.
>
> Yes.

You are entitled to your opinion.

> If it were a legitimate concern you would have PRIVATELY petitioned
the
> Consul, then gone to the Tribunes only if he was uncooperative.

In other words, go behind closed doors and leave the People in the
dark? That is fine for the Senate debating proposals, laws,
appointments, and other sensative items.

> I can't run for office next year either. Are you and I, therefore,
> both equally unable to act from political motivation?

Strange you criticize me for dealing honestly, openly, and
transparently about public matters and accusing me of attempting to
create a political circus. I recall a few times that a certain
Consular now Censor more than benefited with a political circus going
on in the main list. If you recall in the great Sullan Gens Reform
Intercesso debate I consistently hen-pecked for openness and
transparency by Sulla. You were more than supportive then. Now that
I act with openness and transparency and following the law, you
condemn me? Reminds me of a story about a pot and kettle getting in
a debate about color.

> At the very same time that one of the new Consuls has come under
> attack for the size of his staff, you launch another attack on
> a related subject:

Beep! I've never said that I cared one whit if the Consuls have 4
people on their staff or a 104 people on their staff. If the Consuls
feel they need a lot of help then they should appoint at many people
as they think they need. My issue and petition deals with only two
particular persons and their status as minors.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6698 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve Quinte Cassi,

> In other words, go behind closed doors and leave the People in the dark?

I do not consider it "going behind closed doors" to privately write to
a fellow magistrate with your concerns and ask him to change his policies.
It is certainly preferable to trying to goad other magistrates to act
against him.

> Strange you criticize me for dealing honestly, openly, and
> transparently about public matters and accusing me of attempting to
> create a political circus.

That is exactly what I think you are trying to do here. A Tribune's
veto should be an act of last resort, for a renegade magistrate who
is out of control. Yet you went there *first*, without making even
the slightest attempt to settle the matter amicably.

> I recall a few times that a certain Consular now Censor more than
> benefited with a political circus going on in the main list.

All of that happened *after* the issues were discussed privately, and
we had reached an impasse.

> Now that I act with openness and transparency and following the law,
> you condemn me?

Yes, I do. Your call for a veto, without first attempting to
communicate with the Consul and persuade him to your point of view,
is grossly irresponsible.

Just because something is done with "openness and transparency"
does not make it any less contemptible.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6699 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:
> Salve Quinte Cassi,
>
> > In other words, go behind closed doors and leave the People in
the dark?
>
> I do not consider it "going behind closed doors" to privately write
to
> a fellow magistrate with your concerns and ask him to change his
policies.
> It is certainly preferable to trying to goad other magistrates to
act
> against him.

We obviously have a serious difference of opinion of what is public
matter and what is private. Believe it or not, I do understand where
you are coming from and why you feel the way you do. If you feel I
am in error and have acted rashly you are intitled to that opinion
and I don't hold it against you for expressing your opinion. I wish
you'd offer the same courtesy of allowing me to have my opinion.
What is done is done. I've explained my reasons, you are free to
agree, disagree, chastize, criticize, condemn, ect. The lesson I've
learned from this is thus: "Taking the course one feels is right is
not always popular."

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6700 From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve Quinte Cassi,

> We obviously have a serious difference of opinion of what is public
> matter and what is private.

True, and not likely to change.

> Believe it or not, I do understand where you are coming from and
> why you feel the way you do.

Thanks. Although I still think it would have been better to approach
the Consul before calling for a veto, I am beginning to see that you
do sincerely believe in your position.

A few hours ago, Consul Fabius came under attack by some citizens
(not you) regarding the size of his cabinet. When I saw your call
for Intercessio appear, this at first struck me as suspicious in its
timing - part of a coordinated assault, perhaps, an effort to attack
from two directions at once.

I no longer believe that to be the case; from your more recent messages,
I am convinced that you are sincere.

I still think it would have been better to contact him privately. I
know Caeso was awake at the beginning of this thread; a quick note to
him probably would have gotten a reply in less time than the request
for intercessio took to write.

> I wish you'd offer the same courtesy of allowing me to have my opinion.

I shall. I think that your choice of action was far from ideal - but
I accept that you had no malicious intent, and apologize for initially
making that assumption.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6701 From: quintuscassiuscalvus Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve,

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:
> Thanks. Although I still think it would have been better to
approach
> the Consul before calling for a veto, I am beginning to see that you
> do sincerely believe in your position.

I'll take that as advice and not criticism. I do apologize for not
conjugating you name properly. But I think you know from past
experiences that conjugation and proper tense is something I'm never
going to pick up. I think I've already insulted you enough tonight
to spell your name wrong.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6702 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2003-01-02
Subject: Editorial Board for The Eagle.
Salve

Sorry to break up a good fight (and only the SECOND day of the new year) but on to some other topic.

A question can the Curator Differium change (for NEW subscriptions only on or after January 1 2756) the current price of 12.00 per year?

I know that you are as tried of me asking as I am of doing so. So for the Last time and in as nice a voice as I can muster. PLEASE, PLEASE SEND IN ANYTHING THAT WAS PROMISED OR AT LEAST ASKED FOR THE JANUARY EAGLE.

FINALY I would invite any and all citizens who live (or who happen to be in town visiting) in the metro WASHINGTON D.C. area to join me at the Taverna ( a REAL ONE not cyber space). The purpose of the meeting is to give you a sneak peek of the JANUARY EAGLE AND GET YOUR COMMENTS. This will take place on MONDAY JANUARY 6TH in the Stamp Student Union of The University of Maryland in College Park. We will meet in the front lobby, at 6:00 PM ( For those who come after 6:00 pm we will leave a note at the desk )and proceed to the Taverna of choice. Those that show up shall be members of the Eagle Editorial Board. ( I will buy some appetizers for those that show up. a RSVP so I know how many to expect is appreciated.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differium et Quaestor
Fortuna Favet Fortibus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6703 From: 3s@hsk-net.de Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: About Accensi and Scribae
Caius Flavius Diocletianus Censor Quiritibus S.P.D.

Now, the newly elected Consuls appointed their staff ("cabinet") members, a variety and large number of accensi. This raised some critical voices about that issue.

We should not forget that the Consuls are empowered by the Consitution to appoint their assistants, and that there�s no limit for the numbers of assistants.

I must admit that I was surprised to see the number of assistants appointed, and I don�t see the necessity of such a large staff. Large bureaucracies are normally no guarantee for proper government work, there are enough examples for this. This, btw., doesn�t mean that I think that our consuls won�t work properly.

However, both Consuls act on the ground of the Consitution. They have to manage their staff, which will be not an easy task with such a number of assistants. Caeso Fabius Quintilianus made a fine work as Aedile with a similar large cabinet, and it shouldn�t be forgotten that the employment as assistant is a fine opportunity to collect experiences in administration.

I would like to appeal to all citizens to judge about our consuls by their work and not by their numbers of assistants.

Bene Vale
Caius Flavius Diocletianus
Censor, Senator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6704 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
In a message dated 1/2/03 5:56:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, hucke@...
writes:


> What other
> Aedile has accomplished so much?
>

Oh I don't know. Gryllus and I did pretty well in the 5 months we were in
charge of the games.
Put on 4 Gladiator Bouts, 1 chariot race, and organized an online campaign.
And there
was two of us. I didn't even have a scribe.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6705 From: Laureatus Armoricus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: About the intercessio
Salvete,

For what I have read so far Quintus Cassius has a point. Perhaps we could
have expert advice from dedicated lawyers before we can comment on the issue
of minors serving as accensi : Does the oath for accensi really entail
responsability as far as macronational law is concerned ?
Whatever the next course of action and before the Tribunes take side, I
believe it would be beneficial to hear the people concerned (both the
accensi iunores and both consules). On this particular point I agree with
the Honourable Marcus Octavius that the matter could have been at the very
least publicly discussed before an intercessio had to be sought.

Optime Valete

Moravius Laureatus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6706 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Cohors Consulis
Salve L Cornelius Sulla,

<Sulla: She is a Tribune of the Plebs, it would be unethical for a <Tribune
to be in the staff of a Patrician Consul! How could she <protect the rights
of the Plebs if she is under oath to a Patrician <Consul!

Huh? You are confusing me with my gensmate Arnamentia Moravia.

But I was indeed the Moravia who supported C Fabius in his Consul election,
so I am glad that you brought this up now. Rather sooner or later. Ever
since I won the election for Tribunis Plebis, I have been 'cut off'
politically from the C Fabius team specifically because it is unethical if
we maintain contact. My emails (if any) with the ex-campaign team have not
had anything to do with Nova Roma politics at all.

I could never have been in the Cohors Consulis even if only to be a
"Surprise Party Organizer" because I could not have taken their oath: to act
in the 'best interests of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus' because that would not
necessarily reflect the best interests of the people, whom I and my
colleagues represent.

Vale,
Diana Moravia Aventina

Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunis Plebis



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6707 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes
Salve,

As Senior Plebeian Aedile, empowered to work on behalf of the
plebeain interests as well, I must disagree with this statement
bellow about fellow plebeains to plebeian magistrates.


>
> I also make this petition on the grounds that Titus Arminius
> Genialis, appointed Petitor (Accensus Iunior) in the Officina ad
> Consuetudines et Communicationes in Article III, subsection C is a
> minor and has no legal standing to give consent to make any oath as
> required in Edictum Consulare CFQ III de Iusiurando Apparitorium
(The
> Third Consular Edict Concerning the Oath of Attendants/Apparitores)
>
> As the two previously named individuals are minors and have no
legal
> standing to give consent, and I am duly sworn to protect and defend
> the Senate and People of Nova Roma, I regret to make this
petition.


This is a misunderstanding of the law. The under 18 citizens can have
positions like acensus et scriba (apparitores) without trouble. They
simple have no century points. The problem is for elected
magistracies.

They can swear everything they can, alas, the new oath of acensus is
done for that.

So I make a public appeal to the fellow plebeain Tribunes to not care
about this misunderstanding.



Vale,
L. Arminius Faustus
Plebeain Aedile
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6708 From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tr...
In a message dated 1/3/03 1:38:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lafaustus@... writes:


> This is a misunderstanding of the law. The under 18 citizens can have
> positions like acensus et scriba (apparitores) without trouble. They
> simple have no century points. The problem is for elected
> magistracies.
>

Interesting. So you are saying the constitution allows under age citizens to
be employed by NR? Really? I think you better go back and read your Vedian,
Aedile.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6709 From: Diana Moravia Aventina Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Salve Quintus Cassius Calvus,

Thank you for pointing out that 2 of the members of the Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus Cohors Consulis are under 18 years of age. I support your right
to do so.

I also support the Senior Consul's right "to appoint accensi (personal
assistants), to assist with administative and other taks, as he shall see
fit" as mentioned in IV.2.e. of our Constitution.

As this is my third day of holding the office of Tribunis Plebis, I hesitate
greatly to exercise intercesio on any edict, much less so on one made by our
new Senior Consul.

Our Plebeian Aedile, L. Arminius Faustus wrote:
"This is a misunderstanding of the law. The under 18 citizens can have
positions like acensus et scriba (apparitores) without trouble."

Of this I am not so sure. My 'understanding' has always been that under 18
citizens could not hold any office in NR whether it be by election or
appointment. This is not to say that I do not think that anyone under age is
not capable or mature enough to hold any position: it is just that these are
our rules and we should not bend them or break them as the mood takes us.

But if it is indeed against our Constitution for someone under 18 to hold an
office in Nova Roma, then I ask Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
without prejudice to amend his edict, removing these 2 young men from his
Cohors Consulis and to appoint 2 other citizens in their place. This would
make any intercessio unnecessary.

That said, I am speaking only for myself and not my fellow Tribunes.

Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunis Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6710 From: M. Octavius Solaris Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Some remarks from an outside perspective
Salvete Quirites Novae Romae!

Unbelievable and amazing! This is January 3 and already acerbic and pointless debates appear to be resurfacing. So much for a Happy New Year. While I'm still happily eating the lamb burgers Agricola has been providing me with, please allow me to make a few remarks.

It seems that our good consul, Caeso Fabius, is under attack here because of his tendency to "edictify" everything and to have a massive staff during each tenure of office. Sulla raised a valid concern about inactive staff members; they get fired but they get those century points anyway. However, as they are only scribae, those evil people won't really gain much with it. And guess what? If they are inactive, they won't vote anyway. So the problem actually solves itself.

Secondly. Both in Thule and during his year as Aedilis, Caeso has proven that working with a big staff can be useful. He is being criticised by Quintus Fabius on this. I find it ironic that a man who has done almost nothing during his various tenures of high offices should criticise his ten times superior on that field on the account that a large staff *may* be unworkable. The underlying idea is that Sulla and Q. Fabius are viewing Caeso as a political opponent in the form of an octopus with 21 tentacles in the form of accensi.

Quoting Q. Fabius: "I got by with one scribe, and one accensus." Of course you did, because you didn't really do much. I wonder if your scriba ever got to lay his hands on some concrete work. And Sulla supports Q. Cassius' petition to pronounce intercessio. Why? Why in the gods' name bar an energetic, honest, good-natured and hard-working man from doing his job and proving he'll be doing it fine? Again, the faction centered around Sulla and co see their own petty power interests at stake by the potential threat Caeso is posing for their own positions.

And a note for Q. Cassius. Actually, I don't think you acted from political motivations. At one point in Nova Roma's history, I made a similar mistake and the outcry was enormous. Yes, basically you are right in striving for "openness". But openness is something like honesty. Too much honesty can sometimes be very destructive. If there's someone you're going out with whose breath stinks, you might turn to his best friends or trusted relatives to ask them why or how and what. If you go telling that person "hey, your breath really stinks" this will be more offensive and less effective than trying a more diplomatic solution. Diplomacy, relations and politics are no linear systems.

Q. Fabius on the whole issue of - gasps - minor scribes: "Interesting. So you are saying the constitution allows under age citizens to
be employed by NR? Really? I think you better go back and read your Vedian, Aedile." Yes it does, actually. When I was 17 I was hired as scribe and legatus by my propraetor. And there is an option in the Lex Vedia de Magistratuum Aetate that provides for underage candidates to be accepted as a candidate for a position in Nova Roma.

Then Sulla goes on raising a "concern" about Diana Moravia who could possibly be in league with Caeso as a tribuna. Whoever said that consules and tribuni *need* to be opponents? Besides, I think Sulla's memory is working improperly here. A few years back we had a tribunus named Gnaeus Tarquinius Caesar, whose only action was blocking an intercessio against an edict of Sulla's from his colleague, Lucius Sergius. I think Diana Moravia did the right thing. She's not part of his staff and was not part of his campaign team. That shows her good will.

Some people here might do well not to make mountains out of molehills. It's petty and unconstructive.

Valete bene!
M. Octavius Solaris


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6711 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Investment of Imperium
I, Decimus Iunius Silanus, Lictor Novae Romae and
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and
acknowledge the
passing of Imperium -- the power to carry out elected
duties and uphold
the laws --to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates
for the year 2756
AUC. I acknowledge that this imperium will be held
both by elected and appointed magistrates in the
coming year, both on the State and Provincial level.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over
the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom
to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas.
May this sacred bond
bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this
coming year.

Valete,

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Lictor


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6712 From: William Rogers Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
Well, well, well....it actually took three days for the first
arguement over something fairly insignificant to his the board! WOW!

Personally, while I may agree with the idea of going to the COnsul
first, the LAW has been followed. I personally feel if you have a
PERSONAL question to ask someone...please write to THE INDIVIDUAL
directly.

I am still new here at Nova Roma. We ALL have our own reasons for
being here, our own goals we hope to accomplish here, we are human
beings.

How about a NEW concept this year? WOW! We actually try to FOCUS ON
WHAT IS IMPORTANT, and leave the personal issues behind! WOW! If I
want lies and deciet, all I have to do is cut on my television!

I respect both individuals here, and this is NOT an attack on either
one, I promise. What we need to do is FOCUS on achieving our goals,
and try to be more kind to each other while working toward those
goals!

Publius Tarquitius Rufus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:
>
> Salve Quinte Cassi,
>
> > I am following the procedures as defined by the Constitution of
Nova Roma.
>
> Certainly; I don't dispute that.
>
> You are within your legal rights to ask the Tribunes to veto
anything
> whatsoever.
>
> While it would have been polite, considerate, and constructive to
> write to the Consul directly and ask him to modify the edict, none
of
> those things are required by the Constitution. Instead, the
Constitution
> permits magistrates to make a public spectable over trivial matters
if
> they see fit.
>
> > That responsiblity includes transparency in following the rule
of law,
> > not through behind the scenes machinations and back room deals.
>
> Machinations? Back room deals?
>
> It is now a "back room deal" to privately question an edict before
> challenging it publically?
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus, Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6713 From: Manius Constantinus Serapio Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Petition to the Plebian Tribunes to exercise Intercesso
AVETE DIANA MORAVIA AVENTINA ET QVINTE CASSI CALVE

> But if it is indeed against our Constitution for someone under 18
to hold an
> office in Nova Roma, then I ask Senior Consul Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus,
> without prejudice to amend his edict, removing these 2 young men
from his
> Cohors Consulis and to appoint 2 other citizens in their place.
This would
> make any intercessio unnecessary.

Against the Constitution? Well, just to be sure I re-read of
constitution and found nothing preventing magistrates from appointing
someone under 18 to the rank of scriba or accensus.
I also re-read the Lex Vedia apparitoria: nothing.
I read the Lex de Magistratuum Aetate (even though I know that
scribae and accensi are apparitores): nothing.

Therefore, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus' Edictum doesn't break any law,
and I see no reason for asking for an intercessio.

If I am wrong, I would ask Quintus Cassius Calvus to quote the
paragraph of the Constitution (or of any other Nova Roman law) he is
referring to.

Thank you.

Respectfully,
BENE VALETE
MANIVS-CONSTANTINVS-SERAPIO
Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6714 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office - Quaestor
Oath of Office.

I, Decimus Iunius Silanus - Daniel Edwards, do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and
to act always in the best interests of the people and
the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Decimus Iunius
Silanus - Daniel Edwards swear to honor the Gods and
Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue
the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Decimus Iunius Silanus - Daniel Edwards swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Decimus Iunius Silanus - Daniel Edwards swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Decimus Iunius Silanus - Daniel Edwards further
swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities
of the office of quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6715 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tr...
Salve,


Dearest Senator, Flavius Vedius had a scriba of 17 years!

Yes, I´m saying. You can be employed by the Res Publica, since
nominated (at provincial level too). And I will say more, underage
citizens are actually the soul of that times. Since they got NO
century points, what is the problem? Since the impuberes where
LEGALLY approved to gain citizenship, they have all rights, this says
the Constitution (I translated all). Since I haven´t saw none elected
to a magistracy against the law of ages (like the first
misundertanded election of Constantinus Serapio as quaestor) again,
what is the problem???

(And I´m very envious of Fabius Quintilianus, who has got a so
capable citizen like Arminius Genialis as scriba before me!)

I just want to make everyone know that I HAVEN`T vetoed the appeal of
Cassius Nerva, I just made another appeal, under the Aedilship, to
the fellow tribunes not consider that a valid argument.

Vale,
L. Arminius Fautus
Senior Plebeian Aedile


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/3/03 1:38:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> lafaustus@y... writes:
>
>
> > This is a misunderstanding of the law. The under 18 citizens can
have
> > positions like acensus et scriba (apparitores) without trouble.
They
> > simple have no century points. The problem is for elected
> > magistracies.
> >
>
> Interesting. So you are saying the constitution allows under age
citizens to
> be employed by NR? Really? I think you better go back and read
your Vedian,
> Aedile.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6716 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Intercessio of the Aedilship - Re: Petition to the Plebian Tr...
Salve

>I just want to make everyone know that I HAVEN`T
>vetoed the appeal of Cassius Nerva....

Perhaps you mean Cassius Calvus?

Decimus Iunius Silanus.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6717 From: Decimus Iunius Silanus Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Help with name needed.
Salvete,

An individual has made an enquiry about the name
'Xavier', it's roots and heritage. Can anyone help,
specifically whether this name was used in ancient
times.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Scriba Censoris.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6718 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: appointments in the Cohors Consulis CFQ
Robert E. Heinlein
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 6719 From: Gaius Basilicatus Agricola Date: 2003-01-03
Subject: Re: Help with name needed.
XAVIER m English, French, Portuguese
Pronounced: ZAY-vee-ur, ZAY-vyur, ig-ZAY-vee-ur
Derived from the Basque place name Etxabier meaning "the new house". Saint Francis Xavier was the Jesuit priest who popularized the name. He was a missionary to India, Japan, China, and other areas in eastern Asia. He is the patron saint of the Orient and missionaries.






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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Help with name needed.


Salvete,

An individual has made an enquiry about the name
'Xavier', it's roots and heritage. Can anyone help,
specifically whether this name was used in ancient
times.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Scriba Censoris.

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