Ex Officio Praetorium

EDICTVM PRAETORICIVM DE MODERATIONE

The praetores of Nova Roma hereby define the guidelines for
appropriate usage of Nova Roma's public communication forum, currently
located at:
Nova_Roma@yahoogroups.com

These guidelines are based on the guidelines previously issued by
our predecessors (Pompeia Cornelia and Patricia Cassia). As praetores
of Nova Roma, though, we keep the right to change these guidelines in
the future.

I. The Nova Roma forum (herein referred to as 'the list') is set up
so that replies will automatically be sent to the entire list. Please
keep this in mind when you are replying. You are not issuing a
private email. If your reply is intended for only one member, and has
no benefit to the rest of the list subscribers, consider sending it
privately.

II. Posts that merely voice agreement with a previous post without
expanding on an issue in any way are discouraged.

III. Please trim your posts. When replying to a thread, snip
unnecessary sections of the original post for brevity, and indicate
where you have done so by printing <snipped> at the appropriate space.
Correct usage of snipping prevents large posts that can quickly fill
subscribers mailboxes

IV. If you feel you must dispute or criticize another person's post,
consider doing so in private.
Sometimes a person makes a genuine mistake, and your gentle correction
via private email means much more to them than potentially
embarrassing them in the forum over what is an innocent error. We know
that during political debates, private exchanges are impractical.
Please use discretion in this area.

V. It is entirely appropriate to disagree publicly with another's
stated views or another's actions as they report such, or with the
actions of Nova Roma's Magistrates, Senate or otherwise appointed
officials.
Nova Roma is an organization of individuals from a wide variety of
nations, religions, cultural backgrounds and political viewpoints, and
it is only reasonable that our views should differ.

Please consider the following when expressing disagreement of opposing
viewpoints:

* Express respect for the person and the entitlement to his opinion,
and faith in his or her good intentions.

* Point out any themes in which you do not agree.

* If in the criticism of a person's actions, perhaps in the capacity
of a magistrate or senator, point out specifically which actions you
are referring to. Quote the message number of the post in
which you base your account and opinions. This makes things more
objective and often helpful to the person in question, as to what,
specifically, you are referring to, and your issues with same.

* In an academic debate, endeavor to offer references to back up your
assertions.

* At all times maintain politeness in the expression of your opinion
and endeavour to respect the rights and opinions of others.

Inappropriate behaviour includes:

the use of profane language; misrepresentation of the truth for the
purpose of making another person look foolish; calling others names;
criticizing a poster's personal character as opposed to criticizing his
ideas; making derrogatory, belittling, subjective statements about the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome (quoting from a myth does not apply) or
belittling deities of other religions for entertainment. Further, in
the interests of those under 18, sexual references must be strictly
within the context of an historical discussion. Otherwise, they are to
be made in private.

The arbitrary advertisment of goods and services (SPAM) is not
permitted on the Nova Roma mainlist, unless the advertiser is a member
of Nova Roma's marketplace, the Macellum. Macellum merchants are
welcome to advertise from time to time in a low-key fashion. This
entails a signature line/file, a one-time announcement of initial
affiliation with the Macellum, advertising in response to a post of
inquiry made in the forum, or an ad once every three months or so
advertising your presence in the Macellum.

VI. If you feel that a post is inappropriate in any way, consider
mailing the individual concerned privately, explaining your rationale
for grievance and asking for clarification"

If you would like to talk to us confidentially about a particular
post, please contact us at praetors@... .

VII: During the time leading up to elections (held each November and
occasionally at other times if offices become vacant) this list is one
of the forums where candidates express their views and present their
qualifications to the populace. All of the strictures governing
appropriate behaviour mentioned hereto, shall remain in place and
apply to all candidates and their supporters.

VIII: Please do not give out personal information (i.e., address or
phone number) to the list. While it would be pleasant to believe we
are all good-hearted and sane, we are not; you cannot trust in that.

IX: Due to the influxes of SPAM and past incidents of posts from
those who wish nothing but to cause disruption and insult to the list,
or particular subscribers of the list, to wit, TROLLS, it has become
necessary to place all new list members on Moderated Status, just
until we are satisfied that such persons are indeed here to celebrate
aspects of Roma Antiquita and Nova Roma, as opposed to being here for
unjustifiable reasons. This is unfortunate, but it has proved
necessary.

X: Language Policies

The forum of Roma Antiquita was a large venue, with people of
different languages conversing, a few in this corner, a few in that
corner.
Rome was a very mulicultured place in her glory. Mind you official
information was in Latin, and in some cases Greek, but people were
free to speak informally as they wished in the language of their
choice.
Our constitution mandates freedom of communication provided it is not
dangerous or disruptive.

Currently, the praetores can understand Latin, Spanish, French,
Italian and Portuguese, so messages in those languages are most
welcome. For other languages, help can be obtained from the decuria of
interpreters of Nova Roma.

Thanks to the decuria of interpreters and to several magistrates or
legates who are willing to assist with list moderation, 'informal'
communication in the forum is open to most main languages. Feel free
to post in English, Latin, Italian, Portugese, Spanish, Fench, German,
Russian, Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish or any Slavik language. The
Praetors have many to thank for efforts in this regard.

***Exception: This does not contravene the Lex Cornelia de Linguis
Publicus
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/lege/index/html
which stipulates, though comitial mandate, that any offical government
legislation or priestly decrees must be issued in English or Latin
where applicable, so they can be translated verbatim into other
languages to be more easily understood by the entirety of the
populace.

XI. Topics of Discussion

The main focus of this list is Nova Roma and Roma Antiqua. However,
as members of a diverse international community we all have lives and
interests outside of Nova Roma. It is perfectly acceptable to discuss
non-Roman topics here, though keep in mind that not everyone may
share your interest in these topics.

XII: The Praetors have the imperium to govern the list, but prefer to
encourage positive interaction as opposed to punishing negative
behaviour. In the case of a poster whose actions violate these
guidelines aforementioned, the following escalated courses of
action shall be taken:

1.- A private memo from the Praetors' office or a Scribal designate,
stating the incident of infarction, and a reminder to review the
guidelines. Often people who are new to the list are not intentionally
trying to upset anybody.

2.- Another private memo as above.

3.- Moderated status (the poster may post but all posts
they issue are first reviewed by the Praetors or their designate).
The length of moderation shall be determined by the number of offences
in the past, the severity of the violation, and the intent to violate.
No citizen shall be kept in moderate status for more than 2 (two)
months
without a firm sentence issued by a legal court as described by the
Lex Salicia Iudiciaria:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-11-24-iii.html

(For example: Nobody is going to be placed on moderated status for an
extended time for failure to trim posts or for saying 'me too')



Gnaeus Salix Astur,
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Praetores

PRAYERS TO VESTA MATER, MARS AND THE CAPITOLINE TRIAD

(On the anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma, March 1st., old New Year's
Day) [with thanks to N. Moravius Vado]

Charcoal is lit and placed in the turibulum. Cakes, wine, water and lights
are placed ready to hand. Lighting the lights, the celebrant says:

Lucem reddite vostris, dii, fidelibus. Flammam accensam est gratiam
referrens in beneficii lucis gratia. Itaque lux, quod Roma significat, dis
populusque suis, nunquam exstincta fiat.

(Give light again, O gods, to thy faithful ones. This flame is lit in
thanksgiving for all the blessings of light. So may the light that is
signified by Rome, her gods and her people, never fail).

Vivat flamma viget, seu lucerna sucum linteolo suggerit ebrio, seu pinus
piceam fert alimoniam, seu ceram stuppa calens bibit. Lumen quod vobis
offero, suscipite, precor.

(May the lively flame thrive, whether a lamp feeds the thirsty linen wick,
or whether pine lends its resin as fuel, or thirsty tow drinks the hot wax.
Accept, I pray, the light which I offer you.)

Bowing to the hearth, the celebrant says:

Ave Vesta Mater dea splendida foci, custos flammae Romae sempiternae: sive
quo alio nomine se apellari volveris, te invoco. In verbis eoris quis te
colunt, super sacra flamma tua thus iacio in adoratio gratiasque..

(Hail, Mother Vesta, shining goddess of the hearth, keeper of Rome's eternal
flame: by whatever name you would be known I call upon you. In the name of
all those who worship you, I cast incense over your sacred flame, in worship
and gratitude). (Incense is cast in the turibulum).

Crustum similiter inferio et vinum libo. Accipite sacrificium meum, Vesta
Mater, quod humiliter inferio.
Ardeat ignis tuis in cordi Romae Sempiternae, quodque provenissent populares
sub oculis tuis vigilans. .

(In like manner I offer you cake and pour out a libation of wine to you.
MotherVesta, accept the sacrifice I offer in humility. (Pour out wine mixed
with water onto cake). May your fire burn brightly at the heart of Eternal
Rome, and may the people prosper under your watchful eye).

Teque invoco, Mars Pater, amator Sylviae Vestalis, pater Quirini, arbiter
armorum, de cuius sanguine natus est Romulus ergo insuper Roma, a te
principium Romano dicimus anno: primus de Marti Patrio nomine mensis.

(And you, Father Mars I invoke, lover of Sylvia the Vestal, father of
Quirinus, judge of war, from whose blood Romulus was born and therefore also
Rome, we name the first beginning of the Roman year from you: the first
month is called by the name of Mars Pater).

Mars Pater, te precor quaesoque uti sies volens nobis propitius, Novis
Quiritibus, domo familiaeque nostrae; quoius rei ergo te hoc sacrificio, uti
tu morbos visos invisosque, vidvertatem vastitudinemque, calamitatesque
prohibessis, defendas averruncesque, duisque bonam salutem valetudinemque
nobis, Novis Quiritibus, domo familiaeque nostrae. Harumce rerum ergo, macte
hoc sacrificio.

(Father Mars, I ask and pray that you will be favourable to us the citizens
of Nova Roma, to our homes and families; because of this, therefore, I
sacrifice to you, so that you may avert, repel and turn away all ills
visible and invisible, barrenness, blight, all calamity, and that you
procure health and well-being for us, the citizens of Nova Roma. For these
things, be honoured by this sacrifice.)

(Burn incense and pour wine mixed with water over cake).

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, ita Iuno Regina Coeli, patrona Rei Publicae, ita
Minerva sancta, tutela ab omnis inimicis, invoco vos. Propitii despicete,
Capitolini dii magni, accipiteque hunc oblationem parvum in verbis eoris
factus est, qui pacem deorum agere volunt.

(Iuppiter Best and Greatest, Iuno Queen of Heaven, protectress of the state,
holy Minerva, defender against all enemies, I call upon you. Look down in
favour, great gods of the Capitol, and accept this small sacrifice which we
make in the name of all those who would be partakers in the peace of the
gods).

Minerva Sollertissima, te coram thus cremo, crustum offero et vinum libo,
in adoratio gratiasque. Te placeat hunc sacrificium, ut per novus anno
appropinquo ab omnia iniuria protegas.

(Minerva most skilful, I burn incense, offer cake and pour out wine before
you, in worship and gratitude. May this offering be pleasing to you, and may
you safeguard us all from harm throughout the coming year. (Burn incense and
pour wine mixed with water over cake).

Iuno Regina, te coram thus cremo, crustum offero et vinum libo, in adoratio
gratiasque. Te placeat hunc sacrificium, ut super domi familiaeque nostrae
invigiles, quod fortunatem felicitatemque firmitatemque per novus anno
appropinquo habeamus .
.
(Queen Iuno, I burn incense, offer cake and pour out wine before you, in
worship and gratitude. May this offering be pleasing to you, and may you
watch over our homes and our families, that we may enjoy health, happiness
and prosperity throughout the coming year). (Burn incense and pour wine
mixed with water over cake).

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex deorum immortalem, te coram thus cremo, crustum
offero et vinum libo, in adoratio maxima cum reverentia gratiasque. Te
placeat hunc sacrificium, et nos semper faveas. Adiuva nos, dive maxime,
quod per novus anno appropinquo nominem Romanem digneamus in operibus
nostris.

(Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the immortal gods, I burn incense,
offer cake and pour out wine before you, in worship with the greatest
respect and gratitude. May this offering be pleasing to you, and may you
always be favourable to us. Help us, greatest god, that all we do throughout
the coming year be worthy of the name 'Roman'). (Burn incense and pour wine
mixed with water over cake).

Ita vultis, ita siet!

(As it is wished, so may it be!)

Ave, Iuppiter Optime Maxime! Ave, Iuno Regina, Propugnatrix Divina! Ave,
Minerva, Custos Sollertissima Rei Publicae! Ave, Mars Pater! Ave, Vesta
Mater! Ab divine potestate vestra capite inclino.

(If unsatisfactory or attended by ill omen):

Dive (diva, divi), si quid tibi (vobis) in illisce neque satisfactum est, te
(vos) hisce sacrificio piaculo.

(Father Mars, if something in this was not satisfactory to you, may this
sacrifice appease you)(Offer again).



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Salvete cives

For those of you thinking of attending the Pompeii lecture In Worcester
tomorrow, the weather forecast is not very promising. Starting tonight
(March1), a storm will bring anywhere from 2-8 inches of snow/rain to the
area. The timing of this event is such that if one were to travel to the
museum to arrive at 1:30 pm then one would be out during the height of the
storm. Unfortunately, this latest storm will prevent me from attending the
lecture. I will continue to post news of additional events of interest in
Regio Massachusetts as they come up.

Vale, respectfully

GAIVS LANIVS FALCO
------------------------------------------------
Legatus Provincia Nova Britannia
Acting Praefectus Sodalitas Egressus, Provincia Britannia


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Earlier, L. Cornelius Sulla wrote:

> > Its almost hard to believe that Nova Roma has made it
> > through 5 years.

And Q. Fabius Maximus asked:

> Where are the games to celebrate?

Is it customary to have games as part of a Nova Roma
anniversary celebration? I don't recall there being any
at this time last year, on the 4th anniversary of the founding
of our republic.

My Aedilean colleagues and I have planned our games around the
religious calendar as put forth on the NovaRoma.org website,
and the list of Ludi passed on to us by our predecessors in
the aedilean offices. Those games are coming soon, but not
yet. (In fact, we had intended to hold Ludi Sementivae in
January, but the College of Pontiffs never replied to our
requests concerning the dates of Semintivae this year. So
the first Ludi will come in April, with the Ludi Megalisia.)

However, had the Senate wished games in celebration of this
occassion, I'm sure something could have been arranged. If
you'd let us know in a timely fashion, Senator, I think that
all of my aedilean colleagues and I would have been willing
to work with you on this. Bringing the question up now,
when there is no time for planning, seems to serve no good
purpose.

--
Gn. Equitius Marinus
Curule Aedile

EDICTUM AEDILICIUM IV DE DESIGNATIONE SCRIBAE AEDILIS (FR. APULUS CAESAR) AD
NARRATIONIBUS
1st March, 2003

Ex Officio Senior Curule Aedile

As manager of our major games, Ludi Circenses, Muneria Gladiatoria et
Venatione and Naumachiae, my staff id very engaged to offer you the most
exciting events.
I have appointed 3 Illustri citizens to do it but they need assistants
talking english language, having fantasy and writing as weel as possible.

I. I hereby appoint Illustrae Diana Moravia Aventina and Renata Corva as
Scribae Aedilis (Caeso Fabius Q.) ad Narrationibus.
They will help me and my staff to write novels and histories about the
virtual games.

II. As Nova Roma Apparitores they, within ten days, have to make the
Apparitores public oath, as mentioned in the Edictum Consulare de Iusiurando
Apparitorum.

III. This edictum becomes effective immediately.

IV. Given March the 1st, in the year of the consulship of Caeso Fabius
Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile

Salve,

The citizen(s) with the following voter tracking codes
has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:

# 772, 773, 774, 775, 776, 777, 779, 781

Please remember to enter your code exactly as it is
given, and if you are unsure of your new code, follow
the instructions posted previously to obtain your
current voter code by e-mail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339

Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org


Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator

In a message dated 3/1/03 6:47:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, gawne@...
writes:

> Is it customary to have games as part of a Nova Roma
> anniversary celebration? I don't recall there being any
> at this time last year, on the 4th anniversary of the founding
> of our republic.

Q. Fabius Maximus, Proconsul Gn. Equiti Marine Curule Aedile SPD

No, however Livius tells in early Rome there was a yearly celebration.
Likely a Ludi.

> My Aedilean colleagues and I have planned our games around the
> religious calendar as put forth on the NovaRoma.org website,
> and the list of Ludi passed on to us by our predecessors in
> the aedilean offices. Those games are coming soon, but not
> yet. (In fact, we had intended to hold Ludi Sementivae in
> January, but the College of Pontiffs never replied to our
> requests concerning the dates of Semintivae this year. So
> the first Ludi will come in April, with the Ludi Megalisia.)
>

Perhaps we should have the Senate to set aside KaL MAR as a special day for a
Ludi
While we are children of Rome, we are also Rome Reborn, and deserve a special
day of our own.
As you can see the Pontiffs have already made their offerings to the Gods on
this most
sacred of days.

> However, had the Senate wished games in celebration of this
> occasion, I'm sure something could have been arranged. If
> you'd let us know in a timely fashion, Senator, I think that
> all of my aedilean colleagues and I would have been willing
> to work with you on this. Bringing the question up now,
> when there is no time for planning, seems to serve no good
> purpose.
>

Except that now we are aware, perhaps something can be done.
I will discuss this with my August members at a later date.
Thank you for your remarks, Aedile.

Valete



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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:

> Salve Senator Corneli,

Salve M. Octavi, L. Corneli et omnes,

> > It has been an amazing journey and I think it would be very
>interesting if our Censors could post the names of the individuals
>who have been in Nova Roma since the beginning.
>
> Here are those who joined in or before March 1998 (alphabetically):
>
> Assidui:
> Irene Afrania Lentula | MD | US
> Patricia Cassia | ME | US
> Marcus Cassius Julianus | ME | US
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix | CA | US
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur | MD | US
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus | VT | US
> Gaius Marius Merullus | NH | US
> Gnaeus Marius Asiaticus | TX | US
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus | IL | US
>
> Capite Censi:
> Numerius Cordius Paulus | KY | US
> Tertia Libertania Regina | NM | US
> Honoria Lucia | AZ | US
> Julius Machius | SP | BR
> Agrippina Maria Glauca | MA | US
> Secundia Maria Athenia | MA | US
> Octavia Messalina Poppaea | TX | US
> Iunius Niger Montis | CA | US
> Medillina Nonia Naissa | PA | US
> Secundia Olivaria Raina | NM | US
> Sextus Magius Ignigena | TN | US

Thank you Sulla for making the request and thank you Octavius for
putting up this list. It brings back a lot of memories and reminds me
of how far we have come.

Cassius is the more appropriate person on this day of all days to
reflect on these past years, but as he is in Roma, I thought I would
look back a little to those days that led to the creation of Nova
Roma. It may help some of our newer citizens to appreciate what a
precious thing Nova Roma is and what a difference it has made in so
many lives. This is one man's look back at those days...

"Nova Roma is an eternal dream made reality, a dream which has its
dark moments but whose brightness outshines any temporary darkness. "
March 13, 2002


Nova Roma was to be a dream made reality. The primary purpose behind
its creation was, and is, a sacred mission. It was to be a means to
breathe life back into the Religio Romana. Before Nova Roma there
were a few little handfuls of Roman pagans, sprinkled about like
seeds each trying to take root. Each of us knew of a few others, who
in turn knew of a few others. It was a sparsely connected network
with no sense of community. My situation was, I believe, typical.
Though I knew a fair number of Hellenes (the only other classical
pagans I was in contact with), I only knew three other Roman pagans:
Marcus Cassius Iulianus, Agrippina Maria Glauca and Gaius Iulius
Iulius Iulianus. The latter (who went by that name in everyday life)
put out a newsletter for a tiny organization based in the U.S. called
the Sodalicum Romanum (loosely connected with the Italian MTR), that
strived to link the few known Roman pagans. We prayed and studied and
sacrificed—alone--and wondered if we were the only people in the
world who believed as we did. It was a lonely time to be a Roman.

Two among us, Marcus Cassius and Flavius Vedius Germanicus (who I did
not yet know) saw the possibilities offered by the Internet to create
a community of Romans throughout the world. They had a vision, which
they began piecing together piece by piece over the course of a few
years, putting it aside for awhile and then returning to the project
as time permitted. I knew nothing of it until about the summer of
1997, about 8 months before the Founding. Cassius, whom I had known
since 1995 (online) wrote me and mentioned that a Roman pagan
organization was in the works. He asked me to review and make changes
to what were to be some of the Founding Documents. I was curious and
hopeful about the project. I made my revisions, we discussed the
project in general terms (he didn't want to release specific
information until the right moment) and then I didn't hear from
Cassius for 6 months!

Just over a month before the official Founding, Cassius wrote me out
of the blue with the news that "A new Roman Pagan nation is being
formed!" He gave me the details, the web address it was going to have
and he asked me to join to help for the final preparations before
Nova Roma would be announced to the public. I remember being in awe
by the vision of the project, by the desire to reverse, in a small
way, the tide of history. I wanted to be a part of it and joined,
immediately diving in to read, and reread and make changes to
documents and brainstorm ideas with Cassius and Vedius Germanicus.
Today new citizens come to a Nova Roma with 1800 citizens--albeit 300-
400 active--from around the world, an active Macellum, face to face
meetings, a nearly fully staffed and functional governmental and
religious structure and often complain nothing has been done. Nothing
could be further from the truth. I remember when Nova Roma was a
lofty dream and five people: Cassius, Vedius, me, Quintus Caecilius
Metellus and Patricia Cassia (joined just before the Founding by a
friend of mine, Agrippina Maria Glauca). We wondered what future this
project would have, what kind of numbers would join us or even if
this was a foolish venture. Imagine that moment for the handful of
known Roman pagans when this project came into being. No longer were
we alone, for now we had a community. Little did we know how many
more like us there were out there to soon be added to our ranks. Not
just pagans, but those of other faiths who desired to see Roma
reborn.

Today, as we celebrate our fifth birthday it behooves us to look back
to see how far we have come. There is much yet to be done, but do not
forget how much has been done already. The establishment of the state
governmental and religious structures has made the Religio Romana
possible and therefore a success of Nova Roma, no matter what heights
we reach from here. And make no mistake, there are heights yet to be
reached by Nova Roma.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Senator, Praetor

Salvete Omnes,

Congratulations to all on the fifth anniversary of the founding of
Nova Roma.

Valete,

Livia Cornelia Hibernia

Salvete Omnes: I am very pleased, as we all are, to see Nova
Roma reach the five year mark. From a very small beginning we have
come a long way. We have come through good times and bad, smooth
roads and rocky. But that is only to be expected with an
organization that is growing.
There are many people to give thanks to. Too many to name, but
I will try a few. Marcus Cassius Julianus and Flavius Vedius
Germanicus, the latter named sadly no longer with us. Marcus
Octavius Germanicus, and Lucius Cornelius Sulla, and Decius Iunius
Palladius Invictus. I would also like to thank Decius Iunius for his
beautiful discussion of Nova Roma's beginnings. Very well done.
There are many, many more that have certainly contributed much
over the years, and I hope they forgive me for not naming them all.
Sincere thanks to them also for all they have done.
In July 1998, I was fortunate to discover Nova Roma, and
received my citizenship on Aug. 1, 1998. I consider it an honor to
belong to such an organization as Nova Roma.
May our Gods and Goddesses continue to watch over and bless
Nova Roma and Her citizens, now, and into the future.

Bene valete, Appius Tullius Cato
Senator
Propraetor, Provincia Canada Orientalis

Salvete!

< Thank you Sulla for making the request and thank you Octavius for
< putting up this list. It brings back a lot of memories and reminds me
< of how far we have come.

I agree Palladius! It also brought back pleasant memories for me, since I
was around in the 'old days' of 1999. If my memory serves me, I think that
you Palladius were Consul when I joined, with Q Fabius as Consul in 2000,
who I remember voting for in my first election here.
I left NR after a year, intending on it being for a few months to get a few
personal things in order. I always peeked in on the website and was glad to
see NR flourishing. But time flew as it always does and when I returned to
after nearly 2 years, I was so happy to see that certain people that I had
been very fond of were still very active (Sulla, Octavius, Pompeia,
Palladius, Graecus, Patricia Cassia and Marcus Cassius to name a few off the
top of my head). I felt like a long lost daughter returning home.

So my thanks to all of you who have been here for 5 years to make Nova Roma
the fine organization that it is today! I don't think I am alone in feeling
that my association with Nova Roma and her citizens has made my life a
richer place!

Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina




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Salvete cives,

Well, living in New England I should have trusted in the old adage that says,
"If you don't like the weather, wait a minute." It now appears the storm
that was supposed to bring 4-8 inches of precipitation did not materialize,
so right now attending the Pompeii lecture at the Worcester Art Museum is
definitely on again. If you are still interested, plan to meet me at the
Salisbury Street entrance at 1:30 pm. Directions can be found at

www.worcesterart.org/directions.html.

If the weather changes significantly again before I leave I will post.

Valete,

Gaius Lanius Falco


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Salve, Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus -

On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 12:02:00AM -0000, deciusiunius <bcatfd@...> wrote:

> Today new citizens come to a Nova Roma with 1800 citizens--albeit 300-
> 400 active--from around the world, an active Macellum, face to face
> meetings, a nearly fully staffed and functional governmental and
> religious structure and often complain nothing has been done. Nothing
> could be further from the truth. I remember when Nova Roma was a
> lofty dream and five people: Cassius, Vedius, me, Quintus Caecilius
> Metellus and Patricia Cassia (joined just before the Founding by a
> friend of mine, Agrippina Maria Glauca). We wondered what future this
> project would have, what kind of numbers would join us or even if
> this was a foolish venture. Imagine that moment for the handful of
> known Roman pagans when this project came into being. No longer were
> we alone, for now we had a community. Little did we know how many
> more like us there were out there to soon be added to our ranks. Not
> just pagans, but those of other faiths who desired to see Roma
> reborn.

Thank you for posting this. It's a wonderful reminder of just far Nova
Roma has come, a history of the past that paves a way for a great
future.


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Dum inter homines sumus, colamus humanitatem.
As long as we are among humans, let us be humane.
-- Seneca, "De ira"

Citizens of Nova Roma;

I have a project centered in the Militarium which requires a Latin
translation or translations. I would appreciate very much the efforts
of those of your who have some of the Latin to translate the following
phrases for me. The phrase which best suits the purpose will be the one
that I choose. This project is in recognition of a rather significant
achievement on the part of one of our citizens, and so if anyone
recognizes the below phrases I would apprecate keeping the surprise to
themselves until the presntation is made. The gentleman concerned is
not at the moment on the Main List. The phrases to be translated are:

--"Victorius Over the New York Bar Exam";

--"Triumphant In New York Law";

--"Bar Exam Victor."

The selected comment will be carved ino a suitable presentation gift and
used to title a commission of suitable proportions and material.

My thanks for your attention to this item. Ihave done some small amount
of research in the primary words above, but my little pocket sized
Oxford LATIN minidictionary does not unfortuneately rise to this
occasion.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Salve,

The citizen(s) with the following voter tracking codes
has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:

# 819

Please remember to enter your code exactly as it is
given, and if you are unsure of your new code, follow
the instructions posted previously to obtain your
current voter code by e-mail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339

Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org


Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator

Here is a collection of Neoplatonic texts translated into English. This is by no means complete; it is a mere working bibliography. But I hope some may find it useful or interesting.

Malkhos



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Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritibus SPD

I'm proud, along with my wife Irene Afrania Lentula, to be a tax paying
citizens who have been here since the initiation. On the occasion of the 5th
anniversary of Nova Roma's I'd like to post a few of my observations.

As the first non-founding citizen to be appointed to the Senate and elected
Consul I consider the willingness of Nova Roma to open it's arms to new
citizens and allow them to contribute in significant ways to be a main
reason for our rapid growth. What was in the first years a small group of
people concentrated in the Northeast of the United States has grown in to an
organization with members form around the world. This year we have elected
two Plebian Consules, one plebian Praetor, two of these are not residents of
North America. Last year we added five Senatores, two from South America,
one from Europe, one from Canada with one from the United States but from
the Southeast. This is our path to success, promoting people who have the
ability and desire to work for our goals of promoting Roman Culture, Virtues
and the Religio Romana.

My hope is that Nova Roma will continue to welcome new talent into it's
ranks. I'm troubled to see that there aren't more citizens taking up or
being given positions within the various systems of government. It appears
to me that we see the same names repeated in appointments to various
magistrates, but perhaps this is a consequence of not enough citizens
willing to contribute. Well, Rome wasn't built in a day, as the saying goes.
I do hope that in the future those of us who have made a name for ourselves
will be willing to make room for new citizens to take up positions of
responsibility too. They do have to earn there way but we must give them
opportunity.

We have grown despite not having any full time professionals employed, but
rather because we have professionals, and some of us who are not pros, who
*give* their talents and time.

Bene omnibus nobis
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 00:02:00 -0000
From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@...>" <bcatfd@...>
Subject: Palladius' Reflections on the past Five Years

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:

> Salve Senator Corneli,

Salve M. Octavi, L. Corneli et omnes,

> > It has been an amazing journey and I think it would be very
>interesting if our Censors could post the names of the individuals
>who have been in Nova Roma since the beginning.
>
> Here are those who joined in or before March 1998 (alphabetically):
>
> Assidui:
> Irene Afrania Lentula | MD | US
> Patricia Cassia | ME | US
> Marcus Cassius Julianus | ME | US
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix | CA | US
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur | MD | US
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus | VT | US
> Gaius Marius Merullus | NH | US
> Gnaeus Marius Asiaticus | TX | US
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus | IL | US
>
> Capite Censi:
> Numerius Cordius Paulus | KY | US
> Tertia Libertania Regina | NM | US

<SNIP>

Thank you Sulla for making the request and thank you Octavius for
putting up this list. It brings back a lot of memories and reminds me
of how far we have come.
<SNIP>
The establishment of the state
governmental and religious structures has made the Religio Romana
possible and therefore a success of Nova Roma, no matter what heights
we reach from here. And make no mistake, there are heights yet to be
reached by Nova Roma.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Senator, Praetor

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "a_cato2002 <a.cato@s...>"
<a.cato@s...> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete Omnes: I am very pleased, as we all are, to see Nova
> Roma reach the five year mark. From a very small beginning we have
> come a long way. We have come through good times and bad, smooth
> roads and rocky. But that is only to be expected with an
> organization that is growing.
> There are many people to give thanks to. Too many to name, but
> I will try a few. Marcus Cassius Julianus and Flavius Vedius
> Germanicus, the latter named sadly no longer with us. Marcus
> Octavius Germanicus, and Lucius Cornelius Sulla, and Decius Iunius
> Palladius Invictus. I would also like to thank Decius Iunius for
>his beautiful discussion of Nova Roma's beginnings. Very well done.

Thank you. You are right, there are many people to whom we owe a debt
of gratitude, some no longer in Nova Roma. Looking at the list posted
by Octavius, I am amazed at the percentage of people who joined
during that first month who remained involved throughout the years
and to whom we owe so much. Marcus Cassius and Patricia Cassia,
naturally; Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, who has been a mainstay of
our politics; Senator Gaius Marius Merullus; and of course Lucius
Equitius Cincinnatus Augur, the man I call the most Roman of Nova
Romans. Our Cato the Elder, if you will, though he is not an elder!
(I don't think Cincinnatus would mind the comparison to Cato) And
while Marcus Octavius Germanicus was a quiet lurker during our first
year or so, he became active and has since risen to become one of our
most valued citizens. So many others have come and gone, that I find
their record of service a remarkable testimony of endurance, in what
is still essentially a virtual nation.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus SPD

Pursuant to the senatusconsultum passed in November of last year, I
hereby establish the tax rates for MMDCCLVI according to the table at
the end of this edictum.

I also request each provincial governor to copy this announcement to
their provincial lists, and each of Nova Roma's official Interpretes to
translate this message into the language(s) for which they are responsible.

Cives remitting their taxes in US dollars may send a check, money order,
or equivalent form of payment made out to Nova Roma directly to:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Other cives will need to purchase an international money order in US
dollars for the full amount of their taxes and send it to the address
above. Note that individual checks in local currencies sent directly to
the Nova Roma address will likely cost more to cash than they are worth.

Hopefully, some provincial governors will choose to arrange a central
point in their provinciae to which cives may remit their taxes so that
the provincia will only need to make a single payment to the central
treasury. Cives are encouraged to contact their provincial governor, if
any, to find out whether their province will be doing this.

Cives in Europe whose provincial governor has chosen not to act as a
collection point may contact my quaestor, Cn Octavius Noricus
(cn.octavius.noricus@...), in order to arrange payment if they wish.

All cives capable of doing so may pay their taxes through the PayPal
service. There is a link on the Nova Roma Web site's main page for
this. It is the purple image alternately displaying "DONO DARE" and
"give to Nova Roma via PayPal" located beneath the main menu.

All cives should be sure to include the full Roman name of all cives
they are paying for with their remittance! PayPal provides a comments
field when you use it, and you can provide the name(s) there. This will
ensure that each civis who pays taxes will be properly enrolled in the
Assidui.

Questions may be adressed to myself (labienus@...) or my
quaestor, Cn Octavius (cn.octavius.noricus@...). If you post your
question to the main list, please Cc my address to ensure that I see the
message.

The tax deadline is the last day of Aprilis. Taxes may be remitted
after that date, with a penalty of an extra 50%. Exempli gratia, a
civis who owes $12 would need to pay $18 after the deadline.

In the following table, countries within existing provinciae are listed
first in order of provincia, followed by countries without provinciae in
alphabetical order.

Tax Amount in Tax Amount
Country_________Provincia____________Local Currency____in USD
United States America Austrocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Austror. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Boreocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Mediocc. Sup. 12.00 USD 12.00
Argentina Argentina 12.00 ARS 3.81
Israel Asia Occidentalis 35.00 ILS 7.28
Turkey Asia Occidentalis 3700000.00 TRL 2.31
Japan Asia Orientalis 1100.00 JPY 9.31
Korea Asia Orientalis 7060.00 KRW 5.95
Malaysia Asia Orientalis 11.00 MYR 2.90
Philippines Asia Orientalis 72.00 PHP 1.32
Singapore Asia Orientalis 14.00 SGD 8.05
Australia Australia 14.00 AUD 8.48
Czech Republic Bohemia 140.00 CZK 4.75
Brazil Brasilia 9.00 BRL 2.51
United Kingdom Britannia 5.00 GBP 7.87
United States California 12.00 USD 12.00
Canada Canada Occidentalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Canada Canada Orientalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Belgium Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
France Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Netherlands Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Austria Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Germany Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Switzerland Germania 12.50 CHF 9.22
Spain Hispania 6.00 EUR 6.46
Italy Italia 7.50 EUR 8.08
United States Lacus Magni 12.00 USD 12.00
Portugal Lusitania 5.50 EUR 5.93
United States Mediatlantica 12.00 USD 12.00
Mexico Mexico 35.00 MXN 3.17
United States Nova Britannia 12.00 USD 12.00
Hungary Pannonia 920.00 HUF 4.08
Slovakia Pannonia 150.00 SKK 3.87
Russia Sarmatia 90.00 RUR 2.85
Ukraine Sarmatia 7.50 UAH 1.41
Denmark Thule 65.00 DKK 9.43
Finland Thule 8.00 EUR 8.62
Iceland Thule 630.00 ISK 8.12
Norway Thule 70.00 NOK 9.77
Sweden Thule 70.00 SEK 8.26
Poland Venedia 12.00 PLN 3.07

Albania 180.00 ALL 1.40
Andorra 6.00 EUR 6.46
Armenia 630.00 AMD 1.17
Bosnia-Herzegovina 1.00 BAM 0.55
Bulgaria 4.00 BGL 2.21
Chile 2500.00 CLP 3.32
China 14.00 CNY 1.69
Colombia 4800.00 COP 1.62
Costa Rica 970.00 CRC 2.52
Croatia 23.50 HRK 3.32
Greece 5.50 EUR 5.92
Honduras 14.00 HNL 0.82
Ireland 8.50 EUR 9.16
Macedonia 95.00 MKD 1.70
Morocco 15.00 MAD 1.51
New Zealand 12.00 NZD 6.70
Nicaragua 11.50 NIO 0.78
Nigeria 32.00 NGN 0.25
Romania 75000.00 ROL 2.27
South Africa 27.00 ZAR 3.32
Uruguay 44.00 UYU 1.56
Venezuela 3900.00 VEB 2.44
Vietnam 10798.20 VND 0.70
Yugoslavia 50.00 YUM 0.87

Valete

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus SPD

De acordo com o senatusconsultum aprovado em novembro do ano passado, eu,
por meio deste, estabele�o os valores dos impostos para MMDCCLVI, de aorco
com a tabela no final desde �dito.

Solicito tamb�m que cada governador provincial copie este an�ncio �s listas
provinciais, e que cada int�rprete official de Nova Roma traduza esta
mensagem na(s) l�ngua(s) pela(s) qual(is) s�o respons�veis.

Cidad�os podem remeter seus impostos em d�lares americanos atrav�s de
cheque, dinheiro, ou equivalente forma de pagamento em nome de Nova Roma
diretamente para:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090 USA

Outros cidad�os precisar�o adquirir pedidos em dinheiro em d�lares
americanos correspondentes ao total de seus impostos e envi�-los ao endere�o
acima. Note que cheques individuais nas moedas locais enviadas diretamente
para Nova Roma provavelmente ficar�o mais caros do que o seu pr�prio valor
nominal.

Espero que alguns governadores provinciais organizem um local central para
que os cidad�os de suas prov�ncias possam enviar seus impostos, assim a
prov�ncia precisar� fazer apenas um �nico pagamento ao Tesouro central. �
aconselh�vel que os cidad�os contatem seus governadores provinciais, se
houver algum, para descobrir se sua prov�ncia far� isso.

Cidad�os na Europa cujos governadores provinciais optaram por n�o agir como
um centro de coleta podem contatar meu quaestor, Cn Octavius Noricus
(cn.octavius.noricus@... ) para fazer o pagamento, se desejarem.

Todos os cidad�os capazes de faz�-lo podem enviar seus impostos atrav�s do
servi�o PayPal. H� um link na p�gina principal do website de Nova Roma para
isso. � uma imagem roxa mostrando alternadamente "DONO DARE" e "give to Nova
Roma via PayPal" localizado ap�s o menu principal.

Todos os cidad�os devem se assegurar de incluir seus nomes romanos
completos aos seus pagamentos! PayPal possui um campo de coment�rios que
voc� pode usar para escrever seu nome. Isto assegura que cada cidad�o que
pagar imposto ser� propriamente assinalado como Assidui.

D�vidas podem ser endere�adas para mim(labienus@...) ou para o
meu quaestor, Cn Octavius (cn.octavius.noricus@...). Se voc� postar sua
pergunta para a lista principal, por favor envie uma c�pia da mensagem (Cc)
para o meu endere�o, para termos certeza de que eu vou ler sua mensagem.

O prazo final para o envio dos impostos � o �ltimo dia de Aprilis. Impostos
podem ser enviados ap�s esta data, com multa de 50%. Por exemplo, um cidad�o
que deve US$12 dever� pagar US$18 ap�s o vencimento.

Na tabela a seguir, pa�ses nas prov�ncias existentes est�o listados
primeiro, em ordem alfab�tica de prov�ncias, seguidos pelos pa�ses sem
prov�ncias, em ordem alfab�tica.

Total de imposto Total de imposto
Pa�s _ __ ________Prov�ncia____________ na moeda local _ _____ ___ em USD
Estados Unidos America Austrocc. 12,00 USD 12,00
Estados Unidos America Austror. 12,00 USD 12,00
Estados Unidos America Boreocc. 12,00 USD 12,00
Estados Unidos America Mediocc. Sup. 12,00 USD 12,00
Argentina Argentina 12,00 ARS 3,81
Israel Asia Occidentalis 35,00 ILS 7,28
Turquia Asia Occidentalis 3700000,00 TRL 2,31
Jap�o Asia Orientalis 1100,00 JPY 9,31
Cor�ia Asia Orientalis 7060,00 KRW 5,95
Mal�sia Asia Orientalis 11,00 MYR 2,90
Filipinas Asia Orientalis 72,00 PHP 1,32
Singapura Asia Orientalis 14,00 SGD 8,05
Austr�lia Australia 14,00 AUD 8,48
Rep�blica TchecaBohemia 140,00 CZK 4,75
Brasil Brasilia 9,00 BRL 2,51
Reino Unido Britannia 5,00 GBP 7,87
Estados Unidos California 12,00 USD 12,00
Canad� Canada Occidentalis 14,00 CAD 9,44
Canad� Canada Orientalis 14,00 CAD 9,44
B�lgica Gallia 8,00 EUR 8,62
Fran�a Gallia 8,00 EUR 8,62
Holanda Gallia 8,00 EUR 8,62
�ustria Germania 8,50 EUR 9,16
Alemanha Germania 8,50 EUR 9,16
Su��a Germania 12,50 CHF 9,22
Espanha Hispania 6,00 EUR 6,46
It�lia Italia 7,50 EUR 8,08
Estados Unidos Lacus Magni 12,00 USD 12,00
Portugal Lusitania 5,50 EUR 5,93
Estados Unidos Mediatlantica 12,00 USD 12,00
M�xico Mexico 35,00 MXN 3,17
Estados Unidos Nova Britannia 12,00 USD 12,00
Hungria Pannonia 920,00 HUF 4,08
Eslov�quia Pannonia 150,00 SKK 3,87
R�ssia Sarmatia 90,00 RUR 2,85
Ucr�nia Sarmatia 7,50 UAH 1,41
Dinamarca Thule 65,00 DKK 9,43
Finl�ndia Thule 8,00 EUR 8,62
Isl�ndia Thule 630,00 ISK 8,12
Noruega Thule 70,00 NOK 9,77
Su�cia Thule 70,00 SEK 8,26
Pol�nia Venedia 12,00 PLN 3,07

�frica do Sul 27,00 ZAR 3,32
Alb�nia 180,00 ALL 1,40
Andorra 6,00 EUR 6,46
Arm�nia 630,00 AMD 1,17
B�snia-Herzegovina 1,00 BAM 0,55
Bulg�ria 4,00 BGL 2,21
Chile 2500,00 CLP 3,32
China 14,00 CNY 1,69
Col�mbia 4800,00 COP 1,62
Costa Rica 970,00 CRC 2,52
Cro�cia 23,50 HRK 3,32
Gr�cia 5,50 EUR 5,92
Honduras 14,00 HNL 0,82
Irlanda 8,50 EUR 9,16
Iugosl�via 50,00 YUM 0,87
Maced�nia 95,00 MKD 1,70
Marrocos 15,00 MAD 1,51
Nova Zel�ndia 12,00 NZD 6,70
Nicar�gua 11,50 NIO 0,78
Nig�ria 32,00 NGN 0,25
Rom�nia 75000,00 ROL 2,27
Uruguai 44,00 UYU 1,56
Venezuela 3900,00 VEB 2,44
Vietn� 10798,20 VND 0,70

Valete







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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:

> Salve Malkhos,
>
> My deepest sympathy to you on the loss of your daughter. But don't

look

> back, and don't let the grief overtake you. Look forward to the

future and

> to having a little boy named Julian!! We can't keep focusing on who

is gone

> but have to remember all of the wonderful people who still bring the
> sunshine into our lives. This is really the only thing we can do.
> Unfortunately, I know this from recent experience. We all have to

just hang

> on to eachother and ride the storms.
>
> And to Anthony, the same goes for you too. Your little girl is

lucky to have

> found you as a father. I will hope for a miracle, but if none

happens, try

> to remember that your daughter could have ended up alone in some

orphanage

> with no one to love her or care. You've done well, no matter what

her future

> brings.
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia
>
>
>
> Thanks to you and the others who expressed their condolences over

Sophia's death.

Malkhos

there is no way around grief...only thru it to the other side..

be well..

Marcus Ritulius Hiberus
"Seminate aurum in Terram albam Foliatam..."



At 10:56 PM 3/2/03 +0000, you wrote:

>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
><diana@p...> wrote:
> > Salve Malkhos,
> >
> > My deepest sympathy to you on the loss of your daughter. But don't
>look
> > back, and don't let the grief overtake you. Look forward to the
>future and
> > to having a little boy named Julian!! We can't keep focusing on who
>is gone
> > but have to remember all of the wonderful people who still bring the
> > sunshine into our lives. This is really the only thing we can do.
> > Unfortunately, I know this from recent experience. We all have to
>just hang
> > on to eachother and ride the storms.
> >
> > And to Anthony, the same goes for you too. Your little girl is
>lucky to have
> > found you as a father. I will hope for a miracle, but if none
>happens, try
> > to remember that your daughter could have ended up alone in some
>orphanage
> > with no one to love her or care. You've done well, no matter what
>her future
> > brings.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Diana Moravia
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to you and the others who expressed their condolences over
>Sophia's death.
>
>Malkhos
>
>
>
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EDICTVM CVRATORIS DIFFERUM
The Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differum
E Domo Curatoris Differum
Quintus Sertorius

is hereby appointed Scriba Curatoris Differum effective today the
2nd of Martius MMDCCLVI auc 2 March 2003.
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator

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Salvete Quirites!

I am sorry that because of private commitments I have been absent
since last Sunday.

It is my strong conviction that my veto against the "Eagle Patronage
message" was needed. The problem was that I was in a very troubled
professional situation and I had to stop the unconstitutional
development of the "Patronage" issue. Though I strongly feel that it
was very unfortunate that I had to "disappear" right after my issuing
of the veto. Because of this "disappearance" I ask all concerned,
especially Illustrus Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, to excuse me as my
veto against the issue of the "Patronage of the Eagle" posted without
any deeper explanation caused him and others great anxiety.

I must assure all who believe otherwise that there are no personal or
political disagreements between me and Illustrus Tiberius Galerius
Paulinus that I know of and no such feelings were in any way behind
my veto. My only concern was the power of the Senate and the
Constitution.

I think that my colleague and others have sufficiently shown that my
veto was correct and in reality needed. I understand that a
magistrate that is "hit" by a veto may feel very uncomfortable. I
recognize this feeling especially as I have myself suffered such an
intervention with one of my favorite ideas.

But in the case of the Eagle I am sure that the Curator Differum will
find it possible to work with me to find a very satisfactory solution
to this problem for Nova Roma as a whole.
--

Valete

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Tribunus Plebis Marcus Marcius Rex Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 3 March 2756.

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
tallied as below.

Formal debate ended at 09.00 Roman time, Sunday February 23 (diem
quintum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI) and voting began immediately
after. Voting ended at 19.00 Roman time Wednesday February 26 (ante
diem secundum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI). Results were officially
published by the presiding magistrate on the Senate list 28 February
2756.

I may quote Senator Lucius Sergius Australicus here: "It seems
strange that there has been essentially no discussion of these
matters until votes are cast."

The following 19 Senators cast votes in time. They are referred to
below by their initials, and are listed in alphabetical order by
nomen:

Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM)
Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ)
Patricia Cassia (PC)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla (LCS)
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ)
Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus (AICPM)
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (LPO)
Gnaeus Salix Astur (GSA)
Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO)
Lucius Sicinius Drusus (LSD)
Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato (ATMC)


The following Senator did not cast a vote [and his absence was not
announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum defining a
quorum (http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-
vii.html) and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS
(http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-02-27-iv.html) which
this Tribune reads in conjunction]:
Gaius Marius Merullus (CMM)

The necessary majority for a Senatus consultum therefore was 11 votes
in favor.

"UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO"
or "NEGAT" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open abstention.
Square Brackets [ ] indicate explanations by the reporting Tribune.

The items for consideration were as follows

Agenda

Item I: [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova Roman
flag on Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be
enacted as a Senatus Consultum.

[Introductory comments by TLF:] "The full text of agenda item I
follows. I believe that it is necessary to enact this as a permanent
policy, as there are now quite a few Web sites that are technically
violating our copyright. As has been pointed out, we can lose our
ownership of Nova Roma's intellectual property if we don't protect
it. Therefore, it seems best to unequivocally establish the policy,
rather than simply fail to enforce our right to the Nova Roman flag
in order to allow our cives to advertise us on the Web and elsewhere."

_____________

I. Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova
Roman flag on
Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be enacted as
a Senatus
Consultum. The text of the edictum is as follows:

"Permission is hereby granted for all Citizens, magistrates,
provincia,
sodalitates, and other organizations of Nova Roma to use the image of
our flag
on websites related to Nova Roma. The image may, at the time of the
propagation
of this edict, be found at
http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/spqr.jpg on the main web site.
When
used, the image may not be altered in any way except to scale it up
or down in
size, and must be accompanied by the following HTML code (unaltered)
somewhere
on the same page as the flag image:

"The Nova Roman 'Gold SPQR in a gold wreath on a crimson field' flag
is a use-
protected trademark of Nova Roma and is used with permission.

"Permission to use the image of the Nova Roman flag in other
contexts, in
altered form, or without the accompanying attribution must still be
obtained
through the Consuls."

GSA: VTI ROGAS.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas The Alternitive is ordering citizens to strip the Flag
from thier sites to protect our trademark.
ATC: Uti Rogas
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas.
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Item II: [failed 9 in favor – 9 opposing – 1 abstention]

The Senate hereby establishes a minimum tax rate of $6 US.

GSA: ANTIQVO. I understand that there are good reasons to propose this
measure. However, I firmly believe that those citizens living in
poorer
regions should not pay relatively *more* to make for Nova Roma's
shortcomings.
AGG: ANTIQUO
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Antiquo.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Antiquo - This will hinder our development in terms of financial
stability considering that half of the funds go to the provinces.
With some citizens actually trying to draw up plans for growth in
Nova Roma this actually takes us backwards. Have there been any
studies done in regards to our inactive citizens to see if a lower
tax will produce more tax payers? Without any supporting evidence I
will vote against this measure.
MCJ: ANTIQUO To date I have seen no evidence that reducing the tax
rate will raise the number paying Citizens by any amount. I believe
such a rate would if anything discourage our Citizens, as it would
show non-commitment to building a financial base adequate for any of
our desired projects.
LSD: Uti Rogas There is a point where the effort of collecting the
tax exceeds the value collected, so a Minimum rate is needed.
ATC: Uti Rogas I believe that this is certainly a fair amount. Most
organizations have much higher fees.
MMA: YES [Uti rogas] It is in my mind that this reduction of the tax
rate will in fact enable those who could not before be rated as
taxpaying citizens to come into the fold as such. It may well be that
the concerns of my colleagues who oppose this measure are in fact
correct, as no-one has the ability to predict the decisions of
others, particularly those of a forign nation. language and culture.
But I am sure that everyone deserves the chance to be so, and as a
personal interpreter of some of the less fortunate areas of the
world, I know that while thier average salaries may not equal those
of the more developed West, thier pride is certainly equal to ours. I
say give them a chance to show it.)
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: ANTIQVO While I understand the convoluted reasoning of this, a
flat tax is not an answer, nor does it accomplish much. What the
Quaestors need, is determine the average tax that can be afforded by
each province, and set those accordingly. That was the original idea
behind all of taxation here in Nova Roma. Just like it is the
reasoning behind the tribute tax in the old republic. With this new
flat tax, we diminish revenue, not increase it.
LPO: ABSTINEO
DIP: Antiquo. Too often in Nova Roma there are proposals to change
the system before the existing machinery in place is allowed to work
for the first time. We voted to have a variable tax rate based on
national income. Let's try it as previously voted upon. This proposal
will partially raise the taxes of those in poorer countries while
leaving the wealthier countries untouched. What was the sense of
instituting the sliding scale if we are now going to partially bypass
it?
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: ANTIQVO
LSA: ANTIQUO I agree that we should let the last enacted tax law
prove its worth or folly before modifying it. In addition, I am still
opposed in principle to the idea that tax rates for individuals
should be based upon any average economic measure for the nation or
region in which they happen to live.

Item III. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 undisclosed abstention]

In all cases in which a Senatus Consultum specifies a deadline for
calling a meeting of the Senate, the presiding magistrate is given
leave to postpone the required meeting until the nearest dies
comitialis, even if this places the meeting after the specified
deadline.

GSA: VTI ROGAS.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: [did not cast vote on this item – counted as undisclosed
abstention]
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas We have to maintain respect for the Gods.
ATC: Uti Rogas
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas.
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Proroguing Existing Governors [individual votes are given only where
comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]

CFD: Gentlemen, I thank you all for your work in behalf of our res
publica. The provinces are the bricks for the Nova Roma building, and
we need dedicated citizens leading them. Continue your fine work
LSD: I Commend all the Provincial Praetors for thier work on behalf
of the Res Publica.
ATC: I have voted in favor of all, except for one which I abstained.
I hope this year sometime to find someone to replace me as
Propraetor. I simply don't have enough time do devote to the position
in a proper manner. I will do what I am able until then.

IV. Marcus Bianchius Antonius [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

V. Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
ATC: Abstineo

VI. Caius Minucius Hadrianus [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
DIP: Uti Rogas. He has done a most admirable job as the successor to
Marcus Audens and I am glad to have him as governor of my province.
PC: VTI ROGAS, with thanks for all he has done for Nova Britannia
Provincia.

VII. Caeso Fabius Quintilianus [passed 17 in favor – 1 opposing – 1
abstaining]
CFQ: Abstineo!
LCS: Antiquo. I must vote against this because I do not think he has
done an adequate job maintaining the Consulship and his provincia. I
would rather have a Consul who can devote the time and energy with
fewer mistakes then to have a Consul who is inadequate in leading the
State.
MMA - YES [Uti rogas] A resounding YES to this particular vote. This
gentleman has always done a magnificent job in his various
appointments and tasks in Nova Roma. He is now engaged with his
Honored Consular Colleague in the challenging task of setting aright,
within this micronation, those concerns which lesser men who went
before them have disrupted and aggrevated. It is my belief that we
need to support this active and able gentleman in any area for which
he believes himself to be qualified).
DIP: Uti Rogas. While I may not always see eye to eye politically
with Consul Quintilianus, he is a gentleman and well liked in his
province and fully deserving of being prorogued

VIII. Decimus Inius Silanus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
DIP: Uti Rogas. A credit to Nova Roma, his province and his gens. It
is an honor to vote to continue him in this office.

IX. Quintus Fabius Maximus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
QFM: ABSTANO
DIP: Uti Rogas. Another worthy gentleman who does great service to
his name and Nova Roma.

X. Caius Flavius Diocletianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
CFD: Abstineo
DIP: Uti Rogas. A praiseworthy censor, senator, governor and Nova
Roman.

XI. Lucius Pompeius Octavianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
LPO: ABSTINEO

XII. Marcus Arminius Maior [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
MAM: ABSTINEO

XIII. Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

XIV. Franciscus Apulus Caesar [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

XV. Sextus Cornelius Cotta [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

XVI. Petrus Domitianus Artorinus Longinus [passed 19 in favor – 0
opposing]

XVII. Antonius Gryllus Graecus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
AGG: ABSTINEO

Appointing New Governors [individual votes are given only where
comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]

ATC: I believe that they should be given the opportunity to "spread
their wings" so to speak.

XVIII. Gaius Popillius Laenas [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
LSD: Uti Rogas Gaius Popillius did an outstanding job as Questor last
year. I'm certain that he will do the same in America Austrorientalis.
DIP: Uti Rogas. He will make a fine governor and is a worthy
successor to L. Sicinius Drusus.
LEC: Vti Rogas, I'm pleased, in addition to the fine candidate we
have here, that there are enough active cives to facilitate this
healthy turnover in the Provincia

XIX. Caius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
[Note of the reporting Tribune: Senator LSA voted to "prorogue" Gaius
Iulius Barcinus Ciconius , which was counted as support for
his "appointment", Senator LPO changed his original vote "proroguing"
Gaius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius to support for "appointment"]
LEC: Vti Rogas, Idem, would that other governores turn over the
reigns to new citizens, that more may become involved

The following items were being presented to the Senate again on
behalf of Consul CFQ.

Item XX. [passed 18 in favor – 1 opposing]

Approval of the Revised Budget (called "6 ISSUES PER YEAR") for
MMDCCLVI as
posted by Caeso Fabius Quintilianus with the following additions:

a/ The Eagle shall be printed in ten issues this year, the first
already being printed.
b/ The total sum in the Budget of $877 (printing = 499.00 + mailing =
378.00) for the Eagle should be set as the _maximum_ sum for the 10
issues for this year, the sum also includs the first issue for this
year. All money that may be left over from this sum stays in the
Treasury. The Curator Differum is free to use the above sum as he
finds best and he may move money between the printing and mailing
account as needed.
c/ The Curator Differum is free to find other ways to finace the
Eagle, among others he has the permission to sell mugs with the Nova
Roma Flag on them, with one hundred percent of the funds going to the
Eagle. This will have to be done without any start up funds and the
Curator will not be free to place any orders for mugs until he has
orders for them in hands.
d/ The Curator Differum is allowed to keep sums, given without any
binding promises, that are donated directly to the Eagle in a fund
only supporting the Eagle and its production. *Any long time projects
of any kind over the present year binding Nova Roma for any more
years of production of the Eagle as anything else than a web based
newsletter must be approved of by the Consuls and ultimately the
Senate.*
e/ Within these limits the Curator Differum is free to produce nine
more issues of the Eagle in the best way he can do it financially and
qualitywise.
f/ Further the Curator Differum is invited to consult those Senators
(Illustrus Decius Iunius Palladius, Illustrus Q. Fabius Maximus,
Illustrus Minucius Audens, Illustrus Marcus Cassius Julianus and
Illustus L. Sicinius Drusus) that may have good advises about
different production alternatives for the Eagle.

GSA: VTI ROGAS.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas
ATC: Uti Rogas,
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: ANTIQVO I believe that this is inadequate for the task.
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas. I here reiterate the comments I made during the
previous Senate session on this very item: I vote for this item
though I wish it did more for the long term preservation of the
Eagle. There is no clause in here setting a subscription rate or
allowing new subscribers. Essentially, it will allow the Eagle to die
when the current subscribers run out. This cannot be allowed to
happen; we must have some kind of tangible, real world publication,
not just another internet magazine as has been suggested (though that
would be fine for reference and old issues). Save the Eagle!
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Item XXI. [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

The state of Maine, in which Nova Roma is incorporated, requires
every nonprofit organization that is organized for the public benefit
to
restate this purpose in their yearly report. Therefore, the Senate
hereby reaffirms that Nova Roma is formed for the public benefit and
directs the consuls to see to it that the proper authorities are
apprised of this fact.

GSA: VTI ROGAS
AGG: VTI ROGAS.
CFD: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas
ATC: Uti Rogas, This should of course be done. It seems like common
sense to me.
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS Let it be carried out
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas.
AICPM: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS This is a formality to meet a new requirement in Maine
law, and does not change anything in Nova Roma's constitution or
purpose.
LSA: UTI ROGAS


Item XXII. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 abstaining]
Roman Alburnus Maior is in big trouble, it is a Roman site and many
international institutions are trying to stop the exploitation of
Rosia Montana. This will damage this village.

I propose that the Senate support the community of Rosia Montana with
a statement of support. For information about this case see the text
about Roman Alburnus Maior written by Manius Constantinus Serapio.
The Consuls are given the task to see to that this decision is
executed.

GSA: VTI ROGAS. I thank quaestor Serapio's additional comments on
this issue. I am now happy to support it beyond any doubt.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: A sole statement of support is appropriate to show the community
of Rosia Montana that the res publica is by it´s side. No expenses
are connected with this statement. Alburnus Maior is a heritage from
our history, so I vote Uti Rogas.
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas Since this has been clarified I pleased to be able to
vote for this.
ATC: Uti Rogas, As one who has signed the petition, I fully support
this move.
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS Verbal Support only...
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas. I am satisfied with the explanation of the form our
support will take.
AICPM: [Uti Rogas] No current profit could value the destruction of
our heritage.I fully agree with a statement of support for the Rosia
Montana community. Alburnus Maior should to be saved.
LEC: Absto, once again this item is presented in vague terms. I'd
like to see the "statement of support" on which I would be signing.
If the Consules want to send something in their name, that's their
affair. However, something sent in the name of the Senate and People
of Nova Roma I want to see first. I'm sure that whatever is sent will
be fine, but I'd like to see it before approving it.
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Fr. Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

First of all I want thank the Senate to have voted for the support
to Rosia Montana. The conservation of our heritage must be one of
the most important goals of our Res Publica. Congratulations to the
Illustris Senatores to have understood how many important is Rosia
Montana for the Romans.

Thank you too to have re-appointed me again as Propraetor Italiae, I
want you all will be proud of me, my staff and my Provincia! We'll
continue our hard job to grow the Provincia Italia.

And congratulations to all the Illustri Governors appointed today! I
wish a lucky and rich job to the new Propraetors and a wonderful
year to the old.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rexmarciusnr <RexMarcius@a...>"
<RexMarcius@a...> wrote:

> Tribunus Plebis Marcus Marcius Rex Quiritibus SPD
>
> Senate Voting Results published on 3 March 2756.
>
> The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
> tallied as below.
>
> Formal debate ended at 09.00 Roman time, Sunday February 23 (diem
> quintum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI) and voting began immediately
> after. Voting ended at 19.00 Roman time Wednesday February 26

(ante

> diem secundum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI). Results were officially
> published by the presiding magistrate on the Senate list 28

February

> 2756.
>
> I may quote Senator Lucius Sergius Australicus here: "It seems
> strange that there has been essentially no discussion of these
> matters until votes are cast."
>
> The following 19 Senators cast votes in time. They are referred to
> below by their initials, and are listed in alphabetical order by
> nomen:
>
> Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM)
> Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ)
> Patricia Cassia (PC)
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla (LCS)
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
> Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ)
> Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
> Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
> Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus (AICPM)
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
> Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
> Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
> Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (LPO)
> Gnaeus Salix Astur (GSA)
> Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO)
> Lucius Sicinius Drusus (LSD)
> Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato (ATMC)
>
>
> The following Senator did not cast a vote [and his absence was not
> announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum defining

a

> quorum (http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-
> vii.html) and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS
> (http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-02-27-iv.html)

which

> this Tribune reads in conjunction]:
> Gaius Marius Merullus (CMM)
>
> The necessary majority for a Senatus consultum therefore was 11

votes

> in favor.
>
> "UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO"
> or "NEGAT" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open

abstention.

> Square Brackets [ ] indicate explanations by the reporting Tribune.
>
> The items for consideration were as follows
>
> Agenda
>
> Item I: [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova

Roman

> flag on Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be
> enacted as a Senatus Consultum.
>
> [Introductory comments by TLF:] "The full text of agenda item I
> follows. I believe that it is necessary to enact this as a

permanent

> policy, as there are now quite a few Web sites that are

technically

> violating our copyright. As has been pointed out, we can lose our
> ownership of Nova Roma's intellectual property if we don't protect
> it. Therefore, it seems best to unequivocally establish the

policy,

> rather than simply fail to enforce our right to the Nova Roman

flag

> in order to allow our cives to advertise us on the Web and

elsewhere."

>
> _____________
>
> I. Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova
> Roman flag on
> Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be enacted

as

> a Senatus
> Consultum. The text of the edictum is as follows:
>
> "Permission is hereby granted for all Citizens, magistrates,
> provincia,
> sodalitates, and other organizations of Nova Roma to use the image

of

> our flag
> on websites related to Nova Roma. The image may, at the time of

the

> propagation
> of this edict, be found at
> http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/spqr.jpg on the main web

site.

> When
> used, the image may not be altered in any way except to scale it

up

> or down in
> size, and must be accompanied by the following HTML code

(unaltered)

> somewhere
> on the same page as the flag image:
>
> "The Nova Roman 'Gold SPQR in a gold wreath on a crimson field'

flag

> is a use-
> protected trademark of Nova Roma and is used with permission.
>
> "Permission to use the image of the Nova Roman flag in other
> contexts, in
> altered form, or without the accompanying attribution must still

be

> obtained
> through the Consuls."
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas The Alternitive is ordering citizens to strip the

Flag

> from thier sites to protect our trademark.
> ATC: Uti Rogas
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas.
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
> Item II: [failed 9 in favor – 9 opposing – 1 abstention]
>
> The Senate hereby establishes a minimum tax rate of $6 US.
>
> GSA: ANTIQVO. I understand that there are good reasons to propose

this

> measure. However, I firmly believe that those citizens living in
> poorer
> regions should not pay relatively *more* to make for Nova Roma's
> shortcomings.
> AGG: ANTIQUO
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Antiquo.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Antiquo - This will hinder our development in terms of

financial

> stability considering that half of the funds go to the provinces.
> With some citizens actually trying to draw up plans for growth in
> Nova Roma this actually takes us backwards. Have there been any
> studies done in regards to our inactive citizens to see if a lower
> tax will produce more tax payers? Without any supporting evidence

I

> will vote against this measure.
> MCJ: ANTIQUO To date I have seen no evidence that reducing the tax
> rate will raise the number paying Citizens by any amount. I

believe

> such a rate would if anything discourage our Citizens, as it would
> show non-commitment to building a financial base adequate for any

of

> our desired projects.
> LSD: Uti Rogas There is a point where the effort of collecting the
> tax exceeds the value collected, so a Minimum rate is needed.
> ATC: Uti Rogas I believe that this is certainly a fair amount.

Most

> organizations have much higher fees.
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas] It is in my mind that this reduction of the

tax

> rate will in fact enable those who could not before be rated as
> taxpaying citizens to come into the fold as such. It may well be

that

> the concerns of my colleagues who oppose this measure are in fact
> correct, as no-one has the ability to predict the decisions of
> others, particularly those of a forign nation. language and

culture.

> But I am sure that everyone deserves the chance to be so, and as a
> personal interpreter of some of the less fortunate areas of the
> world, I know that while thier average salaries may not equal

those

> of the more developed West, thier pride is certainly equal to

ours. I

> say give them a chance to show it.)
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: ANTIQVO While I understand the convoluted reasoning of this,

a

> flat tax is not an answer, nor does it accomplish much. What the
> Quaestors need, is determine the average tax that can be afforded

by

> each province, and set those accordingly. That was the original

idea

> behind all of taxation here in Nova Roma. Just like it is the
> reasoning behind the tribute tax in the old republic. With this

new

> flat tax, we diminish revenue, not increase it.
> LPO: ABSTINEO
> DIP: Antiquo. Too often in Nova Roma there are proposals to change
> the system before the existing machinery in place is allowed to

work

> for the first time. We voted to have a variable tax rate based on
> national income. Let's try it as previously voted upon. This

proposal

> will partially raise the taxes of those in poorer countries while
> leaving the wealthier countries untouched. What was the sense of
> instituting the sliding scale if we are now going to partially

bypass

> it?
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: ANTIQVO
> LSA: ANTIQUO I agree that we should let the last enacted tax law
> prove its worth or folly before modifying it. In addition, I am

still

> opposed in principle to the idea that tax rates for individuals
> should be based upon any average economic measure for the nation

or

> region in which they happen to live.
>
> Item III. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 undisclosed

abstention]

>
> In all cases in which a Senatus Consultum specifies a deadline for
> calling a meeting of the Senate, the presiding magistrate is given
> leave to postpone the required meeting until the nearest dies
> comitialis, even if this places the meeting after the specified
> deadline.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: [did not cast vote on this item – counted as undisclosed
> abstention]
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas We have to maintain respect for the Gods.
> ATC: Uti Rogas
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas.
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
> Proroguing Existing Governors [individual votes are given only

where

> comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]
>
> CFD: Gentlemen, I thank you all for your work in behalf of our res
> publica. The provinces are the bricks for the Nova Roma building,

and

> we need dedicated citizens leading them. Continue your fine work
> LSD: I Commend all the Provincial Praetors for thier work on

behalf

> of the Res Publica.
> ATC: I have voted in favor of all, except for one which I

abstained.

> I hope this year sometime to find someone to replace me as
> Propraetor. I simply don't have enough time do devote to the

position

> in a proper manner. I will do what I am able until then.
>
> IV. Marcus Bianchius Antonius [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> V. Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing –

1

> abstaining]
> ATC: Abstineo
>
> VI. Caius Minucius Hadrianus [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
> DIP: Uti Rogas. He has done a most admirable job as the successor

to

> Marcus Audens and I am glad to have him as governor of my province.
> PC: VTI ROGAS, with thanks for all he has done for Nova Britannia
> Provincia.
>
> VII. Caeso Fabius Quintilianus [passed 17 in favor – 1 opposing –

1

> abstaining]
> CFQ: Abstineo!
> LCS: Antiquo. I must vote against this because I do not think he

has

> done an adequate job maintaining the Consulship and his provincia.

I

> would rather have a Consul who can devote the time and energy with
> fewer mistakes then to have a Consul who is inadequate in leading

the

> State.
> MMA - YES [Uti rogas] A resounding YES to this particular vote.

This

> gentleman has always done a magnificent job in his various
> appointments and tasks in Nova Roma. He is now engaged with his
> Honored Consular Colleague in the challenging task of setting

aright,

> within this micronation, those concerns which lesser men who went
> before them have disrupted and aggrevated. It is my belief that we
> need to support this active and able gentleman in any area for

which

> he believes himself to be qualified).
> DIP: Uti Rogas. While I may not always see eye to eye politically
> with Consul Quintilianus, he is a gentleman and well liked in his
> province and fully deserving of being prorogued
>
> VIII. Decimus Inius Silanus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> DIP: Uti Rogas. A credit to Nova Roma, his province and his gens.

It

> is an honor to vote to continue him in this office.
>
> IX. Quintus Fabius Maximus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> QFM: ABSTANO
> DIP: Uti Rogas. Another worthy gentleman who does great service to
> his name and Nova Roma.
>
> X. Caius Flavius Diocletianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> CFD: Abstineo
> DIP: Uti Rogas. A praiseworthy censor, senator, governor and Nova
> Roman.
>
> XI. Lucius Pompeius Octavianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing –

1

> abstaining]
> LPO: ABSTINEO
>
> XII. Marcus Arminius Maior [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> MAM: ABSTINEO
>
> XIII. Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura [passed 19 in favor – 0

opposing]

>
> XIV. Franciscus Apulus Caesar [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> XV. Sextus Cornelius Cotta [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> XVI. Petrus Domitianus Artorinus Longinus [passed 19 in favor – 0
> opposing]
>
> XVII. Antonius Gryllus Graecus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing –

1

> abstaining]
> AGG: ABSTINEO
>
> Appointing New Governors [individual votes are given only where
> comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]
>
> ATC: I believe that they should be given the opportunity

to "spread

> their wings" so to speak.
>
> XVIII. Gaius Popillius Laenas [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
> LSD: Uti Rogas Gaius Popillius did an outstanding job as Questor

last

> year. I'm certain that he will do the same in America

Austrorientalis.

> DIP: Uti Rogas. He will make a fine governor and is a worthy
> successor to L. Sicinius Drusus.
> LEC: Vti Rogas, I'm pleased, in addition to the fine candidate we
> have here, that there are enough active cives to facilitate this
> healthy turnover in the Provincia
>
> XIX. Caius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius [passed 19 in favor – 0

opposing]

> [Note of the reporting Tribune: Senator LSA voted to "prorogue"

Gaius

> Iulius Barcinus Ciconius , which was counted as support for
> his "appointment", Senator LPO changed his original

vote "proroguing"

> Gaius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius to support for "appointment"]
> LEC: Vti Rogas, Idem, would that other governores turn over the
> reigns to new citizens, that more may become involved
>
> The following items were being presented to the Senate again on
> behalf of Consul CFQ.
>
> Item XX. [passed 18 in favor – 1 opposing]
>
> Approval of the Revised Budget (called "6 ISSUES PER YEAR") for
> MMDCCLVI as
> posted by Caeso Fabius Quintilianus with the following additions:
>
> a/ The Eagle shall be printed in ten issues this year, the first
> already being printed.
> b/ The total sum in the Budget of $877 (printing = 499.00 +

mailing =

> 378.00) for the Eagle should be set as the _maximum_ sum for the

10

> issues for this year, the sum also includs the first issue for

this

> year. All money that may be left over from this sum stays in the
> Treasury. The Curator Differum is free to use the above sum as he
> finds best and he may move money between the printing and mailing
> account as needed.
> c/ The Curator Differum is free to find other ways to finace the
> Eagle, among others he has the permission to sell mugs with the

Nova

> Roma Flag on them, with one hundred percent of the funds going to

the

> Eagle. This will have to be done without any start up funds and

the

> Curator will not be free to place any orders for mugs until he has
> orders for them in hands.
> d/ The Curator Differum is allowed to keep sums, given without any
> binding promises, that are donated directly to the Eagle in a fund
> only supporting the Eagle and its production. *Any long time

projects

> of any kind over the present year binding Nova Roma for any more
> years of production of the Eagle as anything else than a web based
> newsletter must be approved of by the Consuls and ultimately the
> Senate.*
> e/ Within these limits the Curator Differum is free to produce

nine

> more issues of the Eagle in the best way he can do it financially

and

> qualitywise.
> f/ Further the Curator Differum is invited to consult those

Senators

> (Illustrus Decius Iunius Palladius, Illustrus Q. Fabius Maximus,
> Illustrus Minucius Audens, Illustrus Marcus Cassius Julianus and
> Illustus L. Sicinius Drusus) that may have good advises about
> different production alternatives for the Eagle.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas
> ATC: Uti Rogas,
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: ANTIQVO I believe that this is inadequate for the task.
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas. I here reiterate the comments I made during the
> previous Senate session on this very item: I vote for this item
> though I wish it did more for the long term preservation of the
> Eagle. There is no clause in here setting a subscription rate or
> allowing new subscribers. Essentially, it will allow the Eagle to

die

> when the current subscribers run out. This cannot be allowed to
> happen; we must have some kind of tangible, real world

publication,

> not just another internet magazine as has been suggested (though

that

> would be fine for reference and old issues). Save the Eagle!
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
> Item XXI. [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> The state of Maine, in which Nova Roma is incorporated, requires
> every nonprofit organization that is organized for the public

benefit

> to
> restate this purpose in their yearly report. Therefore, the Senate
> hereby reaffirms that Nova Roma is formed for the public benefit

and

> directs the consuls to see to it that the proper authorities are
> apprised of this fact.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS
> AGG: VTI ROGAS.
> CFD: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas
> ATC: Uti Rogas, This should of course be done. It seems like

common

> sense to me.
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS Let it be carried out
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas.
> AICPM: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS This is a formality to meet a new requirement in

Maine

> law, and does not change anything in Nova Roma's constitution or
> purpose.
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
>
> Item XXII. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 abstaining]
> Roman Alburnus Maior is in big trouble, it is a Roman site and

many

> international institutions are trying to stop the exploitation of
> Rosia Montana. This will damage this village.
>
> I propose that the Senate support the community of Rosia Montana

with

> a statement of support. For information about this case see the

text

> about Roman Alburnus Maior written by Manius Constantinus Serapio.
> The Consuls are given the task to see to that this decision is
> executed.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS. I thank quaestor Serapio's additional comments on
> this issue. I am now happy to support it beyond any doubt.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: A sole statement of support is appropriate to show the

community

> of Rosia Montana that the res publica is by it´s side. No expenses
> are connected with this statement. Alburnus Maior is a heritage

from

> our history, so I vote Uti Rogas.
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas Since this has been clarified I pleased to be able

to

> vote for this.
> ATC: Uti Rogas, As one who has signed the petition, I fully

support

> this move.
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS Verbal Support only...
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas. I am satisfied with the explanation of the form

our

> support will take.
> AICPM: [Uti Rogas] No current profit could value the destruction

of

> our heritage.I fully agree with a statement of support for the

Rosia

> Montana community. Alburnus Maior should to be saved.
> LEC: Absto, once again this item is presented in vague terms. I'd
> like to see the "statement of support" on which I would be

signing.

> If the Consules want to send something in their name, that's their
> affair. However, something sent in the name of the Senate and

People

> of Nova Roma I want to see first. I'm sure that whatever is sent

will

> be fine, but I'd like to see it before approving it.
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS

Salvete,

veuillez trouver ci apr�s la traduction de l'Edictum de notre Consul T. Labienus
Fortunatus. Pour d'autres informations, veuillez me contacter!

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus SPD

Conform�ment au senatusconsultum passe en Novembre dernier, j'�tablis ci-apr�s le taux de
la taxe pour MMDCCLVI en accordance avec le tableau � la fin de ce message.

Je demande � chacun des gouverneurs de transmettre cette annonce sur leur liste
provinciale et � chaque interpr�te officiel de la traduire dans leur langage respectif.

Les citoyens r�glant en US dollars peuvent envoyer un ch�que, un mandat ou tout autre
moyen �quivalent � l'ordre de Nova Roma directement �:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Les autres citoyens devront utliser un mandat international en US dollars pour le montant
de leur taxe et l'envoyer � l'adresse ci dessus. Veuillez noter que les ch�ques en
monnaie locale seront plus on�reux � encaisser que leur valeur r�elle.

Certains gouverneurs provinciaux peuvent arranger un paiement centralis� au niveau de la
province. Celle-ci fera ensuite un seul virement au tr�sor. Les citoyens sont encourag�s
� contacter leur gouverneur afin de savoir si un tel proc�d� sera mis en place.

Les citoyens en Europe dont le gouverneur aura choisi de ne pas agir en tant que
centralisateur peuvent contacter mon Queastor Cn. Octavius Noricus
(cn.octavius.noricus@...) afin d'arranger le paiement.

Les citoyens qui en ont la possibilit� peuvent r�gler leur taxe par Paypal. Un lien � cet
effet se trouve sur la page principale du site de Nova Roma. Il s'agit de l'image
violette affichant "DONO DARE" et "give to Nova Roma via PayPal" situ�e sous le menu
principal.

Tous les citoyens doivent indiquer leur nom romain complet ainsi qu'�ventuellement celui
des citoyens pour lesquels ils r�glent la taxe. Paypal met a disposition un champ de
commentaires o� devront figurer les noms. Cela assurera la qualit� de Assidui aux
citoyens qui s'acquitteront de la taxe.

Toute question pourra �tre pos� � moi m�me (labienus@...) ou � mon Quaestor
(cn.octavius.noricus@...). Si vous adressez votre question sur la liste principale,
veuillez me mettre en copie.

La date limite est le dernier jour de Aprilis. Les taxes seront charg�es d'une p�nalit�
de 50% si elles arrivent apr�s cette date. A titre d'exemple, un citoyen qui doit $12
devra r�gler $18 apr�s la date limite.

Dans le tableau suivant, les pays se trouvant dans une province sont list�s en premier
dans la liste alphabetique des Provinces, suivis des pays n'appartenant pas � une
Province.

Montant de la Taxe Montant de la Taxe
Pays_________Provincia____________ en Monnaie locale____en US dollars
United States America Austrocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Austror. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Boreocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Mediocc. Sup. 12.00 USD 12.00
Argentina Argentina 12.00 ARS 3.81
Israel Asia Occidentalis 35.00 ILS 7.28
Turkey Asia Occidentalis 3700000.00 TRL 2.31
Japan Asia Orientalis 1100.00 JPY 9.31
Korea Asia Orientalis 7060.00 KRW 5.95
Malaysia Asia Orientalis 11.00 MYR 2.90
Philippines Asia Orientalis 72.00 PHP 1.32
Singapore Asia Orientalis 14.00 SGD 8.05
Australia Australia 14.00 AUD 8.48
Czech Republic Bohemia 140.00 CZK 4.75
Brazil Brasilia 9.00 BRL 2.51
United Kingdom Britannia 5.00 GBP 7.87
United States California 12.00 USD 12.00
Canada Canada Occidentalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Canada Canada Orientalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Belgium Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
France Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Netherlands Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Austria Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Germany Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Switzerland Germania 12.50 CHF 9.22
Spain Hispania 6.00 EUR 6.46
Italy Italia 7.50 EUR 8.08
United States Lacus Magni 12.00 USD 12.00
Portugal Lusitania 5.50 EUR 5.93
United States Mediatlantica 12.00 USD 12.00
Mexico Mexico 35.00 MXN 3.17
United States Nova Britannia 12.00 USD 12.00
Hungary Pannonia 920.00 HUF 4.08
Slovakia Pannonia 150.00 SKK 3.87
Russia Sarmatia 90.00 RUR 2.85
Ukraine Sarmatia 7.50 UAH 1.41
Denmark Thule 65.00 DKK 9.43
Finland Thule 8.00 EUR 8.62
Iceland Thule 630.00 ISK 8.12
Norway Thule 70.00 NOK 9.77
Sweden Thule 70.00 SEK 8.26
Poland Venedia 12.00 PLN 3.07

Albania 180.00 ALL 1.40
Andorra 6.00 EUR 6.46
Armenia 630.00 AMD 1.17
Bosnia-Herzegovina 1.00 BAM 0.55
Bulgaria 4.00 BGL 2.21
Chile 2500.00 CLP 3.32
China 14.00 CNY 1.69
Colombia 4800.00 COP 1.62
Costa Rica 970.00 CRC 2.52
Croatia 23.50 HRK 3.32
Greece 5.50 EUR 5.92
Honduras 14.00 HNL 0.82
Ireland 8.50 EUR 9.16
Macedonia 95.00 MKD 1.70
Morocco 15.00 MAD 1.51
New Zealand 12.00 NZD 6.70
Nicaragua 11.50 NIO 0.78
Nigeria 32.00 NGN 0.25
Romania 75000.00 ROL 2.27
South Africa 27.00 ZAR 3.32
Uruguay 44.00 UYU 1.56
Venezuela 3900.00 VEB 2.44
Vietnam 10798.20 VND 0.70
Yugoslavia 50.00 YUM 0.87

Valete,




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Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae

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Salvete Quirites,

I am honored to be appointed Propraetor of America Austrorientalis
and most grateful to the Senate for its confidence.

My thanks also to the most honorable Lucius Sicinius Drusus for
nominating me to this position and for leaving a very large toga for
me to try and fill. ;-)

Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the
best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith
Sterne) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Propraetor of America Austrorientalis to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Propraetor of America Austrorientalis
and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.

Salvete,

congratulations for the new Propraetors!!
And I would like to thank our honored Senate for its renewed confidence in the duty of
the actual Governors. We will do our best to deserve it.

Valete,

Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Propraetor Galliae

--- "gaiuspopilliuslaenas <ksterne@...>" <ksterne@...> wrote:

> Salvete Quirites,
>
> I am honored to be appointed Propraetor of America Austrorientalis
> and most grateful to the Senate for its confidence.
>
> My thanks also to the most honorable Lucius Sicinius Drusus for
> nominating me to this position and for leaving a very large toga for
> me to try and fill. ;-)
>
> Valete,
> Gaius Popillius Laenas
>
>

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Salve,

Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
until Thursday March 5th.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator

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Salve and good luck with the surgery

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message -----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:30 AM
To: Nova Roma; Senate
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absence

Salve,

Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
until Thursday March 5th.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator

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Ave

Good luck with the knee!

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus [mailto:lsicinius@...]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Nova Roma; Senate
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absence


Salve,

Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
until Thursday March 5th.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator

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Could be. i know my father had a limtited family tree search done, and it
was discovered that many in Vaglio Basilicata are of Albanian origin, from
as far back as 13ht century. i have no idea if this is true or not, but
could explain mine and my families physical appearance.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: me-in-@... [mailto:me-in-@...]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:41 PM
To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Gens


-----Original Message-----
From : “Marcus Iulius Perusianus <m_iulius@...>“
<m_iulius@...>

>As “Basilici“ was the name of the books of law in Byzantium in IX
>century, probably the toponym “Basilicata“ meant land of Basileus,
>that is to say “land of the king of Byzantium“.
>This was introduced to distinguish that part of the region from the
>other part still called with the Latin name “Lucania“.
>

If that is so, it might have been part of the former Exarchate of Ravenna
that did not become Papal Lands when the Franks kicked the Lombards out of
it, or maybe it was territory that the Empire tried to reclaim later.

Caesariensis.


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Ave

I believe wholeheartedly in welcoming new members. I also believe that part
of getting new members involved is to be interested in them. My new personal
policy is to identify those people that are new, especially when they
announce their citizenship, and send them a quick note asking them about
themselves, why they joined Nova Roma, what they find interesting about
Rome, etc. Its too easy to get into the comfortable position of just reading
the threads one starts or ones that hold an interest for you personally. I
am guilty of this. I believe it would be easy for a new citizen to believe
they are sort of on the outside and be afraid of participating. We have to
draw them in by truly rolling out the welcome wagon.

And no, aliens have not taken over my mind. I really want to see us
succeed.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucius Equitius [mailto:vergil@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:56 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Digest No 482


Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritibus SPD

I'm proud, along with my wife Irene Afrania Lentula, to be a tax paying
citizens who have been here since the initiation. On the occasion of the
5th
anniversary of Nova Roma's I'd like to post a few of my observations.

As the first non-founding citizen to be appointed to the Senate and
elected
Consul I consider the willingness of Nova Roma to open it's arms to new
citizens and allow them to contribute in significant ways to be a main
reason for our rapid growth. What was in the first years a small group of
people concentrated in the Northeast of the United States has grown in to
an
organization with members form around the world. This year we have elected
two Plebian Consules, one plebian Praetor, two of these are not residents
of
North America. Last year we added five Senatores, two from South America,
one from Europe, one from Canada with one from the United States but from
the Southeast. This is our path to success, promoting people who have the
ability and desire to work for our goals of promoting Roman Culture,
Virtues
and the Religio Romana.

My hope is that Nova Roma will continue to welcome new talent into it's
ranks. I'm troubled to see that there aren't more citizens taking up or
being given positions within the various systems of government. It appears
to me that we see the same names repeated in appointments to various
magistrates, but perhaps this is a consequence of not enough citizens
willing to contribute. Well, Rome wasn't built in a day, as the saying
goes.
I do hope that in the future those of us who have made a name for
ourselves
will be willing to make room for new citizens to take up positions of
responsibility too. They do have to earn there way but we must give them
opportunity.

We have grown despite not having any full time professionals employed, but
rather because we have professionals, and some of us who are not pros, who
*give* their talents and time.

Bene omnibus nobis
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 00:02:00 -0000
From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@...>" <bcatfd@...>
Subject: Palladius' Reflections on the past Five Years

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<hucke@c...> wrote:

> Salve Senator Corneli,

Salve M. Octavi, L. Corneli et omnes,

> > It has been an amazing journey and I think it would be very
>interesting if our Censors could post the names of the individuals
>who have been in Nova Roma since the beginning.
>
> Here are those who joined in or before March 1998 (alphabetically):
>
> Assidui:
> Irene Afrania Lentula | MD | US
> Patricia Cassia | ME | US
> Marcus Cassius Julianus | ME | US
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix | CA | US
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur | MD | US
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus | VT | US
> Gaius Marius Merullus | NH | US
> Gnaeus Marius Asiaticus | TX | US
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus | IL | US
>
> Capite Censi:
> Numerius Cordius Paulus | KY | US
> Tertia Libertania Regina | NM | US

<SNIP>

Thank you Sulla for making the request and thank you Octavius for
putting up this list. It brings back a lot of memories and reminds me
of how far we have come.
<SNIP>
The establishment of the state
governmental and religious structures has made the Religio Romana
possible and therefore a success of Nova Roma, no matter what heights
we reach from here. And make no mistake, there are heights yet to be
reached by Nova Roma.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Senator, Praetor



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Nova York Interrogatio Victoriatus. Just a guess from perusing my Latin Via
Ovid.



Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: jmath669642reng@... [mailto:jmath669642reng@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:23 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com; ALIEBEEE@...
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latin terms


Citizens of Nova Roma;

I have a project centered in the Militarium which requires a Latin
translation or translations. I would appreciate very much the efforts
of those of your who have some of the Latin to translate the following
phrases for me. The phrase which best suits the purpose will be the one
that I choose. This project is in recognition of a rather significant
achievement on the part of one of our citizens, and so if anyone
recognizes the below phrases I would apprecate keeping the surprise to
themselves until the presntation is made. The gentleman concerned is
not at the moment on the Main List. The phrases to be translated are:

--"Victorius Over the New York Bar Exam";

--"Triumphant In New York Law";

--"Bar Exam Victor."

The selected comment will be carved ino a suitable presentation gift and
used to title a commission of suitable proportions and material.

My thanks for your attention to this item. Ihave done some small amount
of research in the primary words above, but my little pocket sized
Oxford LATIN minidictionary does not unfortuneately rise to this
occasion.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


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Salus et Fortuna Omnes,

A poem I wrote as the occasion of our second anniversary approached, if I may offer a reprise?

Genesis Romana - 22 January 2753 AUC

The Hand of Mars reached down one day
To choose a tribe to call His own
By seven hills, in rustic huts
Amidst their herds, they made their lives

A Latin folk both proud and strong
Quirinus inspired them
To scale the mounts and build thereon
This small, rude start, grew into more

A foreign folk, became their kings
All things went well for long and long
More gods were met, rites learned, shrines built
More ways came in a dark seed fell

And bitter grew their hearts to them
Farmers, herdsmen, craftsmen took sword
This people fought, threw off the yoke
Of foreign king took future's reins

This hardy folk in forum spoke
They made their Law, and Orders set
By Gens and tribe by deed and word
Set hand to fate created Rome

--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Civis Nova Romana et Paterfamilias

Nam risu inepto res ineptior nulla est." - Catullus, Roman Poet
{There is nothing dumber than to grin at the wrong time.}

A. Apollonius Cordus to all citizens and peregrines,
and particularly to all Senators, greetings.

I notice from the results of the most recent meeting
of the Senate (for whose publication thanks to the
Tribunes) a statement by Senator Australicus
suggesting that the agenda was not discussed prior to
voting (if I've understood it correctly). Also, it
seems from the comments of some Senators about the
proposed minimum tax threshold that there was
confusion over whether this proposal meant to set a
minimum or a maximum tax rate - a question which would
presumably have been cleared up swiftly in debate had
there been a debate. I'm also reminded of the report
from the meeting before, in which there was similar
uncertainty over whether the proposal about Alburnus
Maior involved expenditure or not (though I'm aware
that there were unusual complications in that
meeting).

Before anyone familiar with my tendency to cry
'reform' gets the feeling that I'm criticizing the
efficiency of Senatorial procedure, I should make
clear that this isn't my intention. What I'm hoping is
that someone will be so kind as to explain, for the
benefit of myself and others, what the usual procedure
for meetings of the Senate is, and whether there is
usually expected to be any debate about an agenda
before voting begins.

I feel it might benefit the general public to have an
idea of how our Senate works, so that we don't
continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
in a round building declaiming to one another before
leaping to their feet to vote by division...

Thanks,

Cordus

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This was forwarded to me from LegioII Augusta in
Portland, Oregon. I am sure it is of interest to many
of you:

> I noticed that you command a Roman legion. I am a
> professor and
> archaeologist at San Francisco State University and
> I supervise
> excavations at the site of Tropaeum Traiani
> ("Trajan's Trophy") which
> includes the massive Roman war memorial and the
> frontier city founded and
> settled by the veterans of Trajan's first war
> against the Dacians (101-102
> AD). This archaeological complex is located in SE
> Romania between the
> Danube and the Black Sea. I have pasted below some
> information about the
> site and about myself. This message is to inform
> people who are
> interested in Roman history of opportunities to
> volunteer at our
> archaeological excavations this July. If
> appropriate, could you let
> members of your legion know about this opportunity
> (no experience
> required). Our web site has more details for how to
> apply and
> participate: www.terraeuropaea.org [go to section
> "Excavations"
> and click under "Roman city"]. Thank you for
> reading this message!
>
> Prof. Linda Ellis, San Francisco State University
>
> ****************************************************
>
> Archaeological excavations invite volunteers
> interested in Roman military
> history:
>
> Joint U.S.-Romanian archaeological research at Roman
> city of Tropaeum
> Traiani (Adamclisi)
>
> Dates: 16-31 July 2003
>
> For complete information and application see our web
> site:
> www.terraeuropaea.org
>
> Tropaeum Traiani is a Roman city near the Black Sea,
> SE Romania, dating to
> the 2nd-6th centuries AD. Near the city is an
> immense military war
> monument, built by Roman veterans of the first war
> against the Dacians
> (101-102 AD) and an on-site museum which houses
> original sculpture from the
> monument. There are on-going excavations in the
> city center. In addition,
> we will be conducting surveys of the surrounding
> territory to record
> archaeological sites in the vicinity of the city.
> More information on the
> military history of this site is pasted below.
>
> Contact: Prof. Linda Ellis, San Francisco State
> University, ELLISL@...
> (short biography is below)
>
> Excursions are planned for participants to museums
> and all three ancient
> Greco-Roman cities on Romania's Black Sea coast:
> Histria, Tomis, and
> Callatis, as well as a boat excursion through the
> Danube Delta.
>
> Excavations are sponsored by Terra Europaea, a
> registered, non-profit
> organization supporting archaeological excavations,
> a book donation program
> for rural schools, summer employment for local
> youth, and a field school
> for university students.
> --------------------------
>
> Short Biography: L. Ellis
>
> I am a Full Professor at San Francisco State
> University and have taught
> courses on Roman colonization and archaeology. My
> academic areas of
> interest are archaeology in Eastern Europe and the
> Balkans, Roman
> colonialism and commerce, and Roman military
> interactions with non-Roman
> ethnic groups. I have been conducting
> archaeological research in Romania
> continuously since 1979. Together with Dr.
> Alexandru Barnea of the
> University of Bucharest, we have a surveying program
> surrounding the Roman
> city of Tropaeum Traiani (2nd-6th centuries) in SE
> Romania.
> --------------------------
>
> Tropaeum Traiani (Adamclisi)
> A brief military history of the city and monument
>
> See web site [www.terraeuropaea.org] for photographs
> of the city and
> monument described below.
>
> Location
>
> Tropaeum Traiani is located near the modern-day
> village of Adamclisi in SE
> Romania, between the Danube River and the Black Sea
> coastline. This
> archaeological complex comprises a Roman city, a
> military monument, and
> on-site museum. This monument, 'tropaeum' was built
> by the Romans in order
> to commemorate the victories against the Dacians in
> the first Romano-Dacian
> war of AD 101-102. The on-site museum for Tropaeum
> Traiani, established in
> 1977, houses the original sculptures, metopes
> (rectangular limestone slabs
> with carved figurative scenes) and other
> architectural elements from the
> monument, as well as archaeological finds from the
> city and surrounding
> area. The city of Tropaeum Traiani itself was
> settled by war veterans and
> other colonists and was occupied from the 2nd to the
> 6th centuries AD. The
> war memorial 'tropaeum' dominates the surrounding
> countryside and can be
> clearly seen from the Roman city.
>
> Brief Background on Roman Military History
>
> During the winter of 101-102, the Roman legions were
> stationed in army
> camps in SW Romania just north of the Danube River,
> in one of several
> attempts by the Roman empire to curb the growing
> power base and military
> threat from the Dacians. The Dacian leader,
> Decebal, created a coalition
> of surrounding non-Dacian tribes (Sarmatian and
> Germanic tribes) in the
> northeast and northwest together with the Dacians
> against the Roman
> legions. The strategic plan was to start from the
> north (today Moldavia),
> move south through Dobrudja, down to the Balkan
> Mountains (today central
> Bulgaria), and move west to create a swift attack
> behind the Roman front.
> Coming from behind would cut off the Romans from
> their supply lines south
> of the Danube and it would also create the element
> of surprise during a
> period when the Danube was still frozen over and
> negotiable by foot
> soldiers. Unfortunately for Decebal and his
> coalition, that winter was
> milder than normal and the ice layer over the Danube
> was very thin. With
> superior military intuition, the Roman emperor
> Trajan crossed the river
> with some of his forces, moved southeast, and
> engaged the Dacian coalition
> in an exceptionally vicious battle at Nicopolis ad
> Istrum (central
> Bulgaria), where later he would build his 'city of
> victory'. Afterwards,
> the Roman legions, auxiliary troops (military units
> of non-Roman citizens),
> and the praetorian guards (who always accompanied
> the emperor) marched
> farther ENE to where more Dacian-Sarmatian-German
> coalition forces were
> concentrated. The armies met on the plateau of
> Adamclisi to fight perhaps
> one of most bloody battles in the history of the
> empire and was decisive
> for eventual Roman control over Dacian territory.
> The battle of Adamclisi
> was personally commanded by Emperor Trajan himself,
> and the human loss was
> so great that the emperor decided to create a
> triumphal monument
> ('tropaeum') in honor of his victory, a mausoleum
> for the incinerated
> remains of the Roman officer corps, and an altar on
> the walls of which the
> names of more than 3,800 soldiers were carved in
> stone.
>
> The Roman War Monument
>
> The triumphal monument was dedicated to Mars Ultor
> (Mars the Avenger, the
> god of war) and was erected between AD 106 and 109
> during the reign of
> Trajan following the two Dacian wars (101-102 and
> 105-106), as attested by
> inscriptions. In its original form, the base of the
> triumphal monument was
> constructed as a huge cylindrical, drum-shaped
> structure, above which was a
> conical roof made of stone slates laid down like
> overlapping scales. On
> top of the conical roof were two hexagonal bases,
> one on top of the other,
> which supported a large triumphal statue, or
> 'tropaeum', a symbol of Roman
> military victory. The stone was quarried at a 3 km
> distance from the
> monument.
>
> At the base of the monument are nine rows of stairs.
> Above the stairs, the
> massive cylindrical drum was constructed and faced
> with six rows of
> undecorated stone slabs divided vertically by a row
> of sculptured scenes
> ('metopes'). The metopes, which measure 1.58 m high
> and 1.16 m wide,
> depict scenes from the Roman military campaigns
> fought by Trajan against
> the Dacians and their allies. Some metopes show the
> Roman military:
> cavalry in full armor, fights between Romans and
> Dacians, enchained
> prisoners flanked by Roman soldiers; officers,
> dignitaries, horn players,
> and standard-bearers; the emperor himself; as well
> as a good number of
> battle scenes. Other metopes show rustic scenes
> such as flocks of sheep or
> Dacian families. The sculptural style of the
> scenes is not sophisticated
> and indicates possibly local workmanship. Of the
> total of 54 metopes, 49
> survive (and are housed in the on-site museum), 3
> were never found, one
> metope was lost after 1896, and another metope was
> taken to the
> Archaeological Museum in Istanbul in the mid-19th
> century.
>
> On the entire upper circumference of the cylindrical
> drum is a series of 27
> vertical rectangular blocks (1.56 m high, 1.8 m
> wide) on which are carved
> human figures who are obviously prisoners-of-war
> with hands tied behind
> their backs. Based on studies of their costumes and
> armaments, and
> comparing them to the frieze on Trajan's Column in
> Rome, these figures
> represent Dacian, Sarmatian, and Germanic captives
> in the war against the
> Romans.
>
> Above the main drum is the conical roof covered with
> more than 1,000 pieces
> of stone slate. This roof support two hexagonal
> bases above which was a
> large triumphal statue in Roman armor and sculptures
> of war captives seated
> or standing in submission). There are also two
> plaques with identical
> Latin inscriptions, the original fragments of which
> are preserved in the
> on-site museum and have been reconstructed and
> translated as follows:
>
> To Mars, the god of war, Caesar the emperor, son of
> divine Nerva, Nerva
> Trajan, Augustus, who defeated the Germans, the
> Dacians, great priest, for
> the 13th time tribune of the plebeians, proclaimed
> emperor by the army for
> the 6th time, elected consul for the 5th time,
> father of our homeland,
> after defeating the Dacian and the Sarmatian armies.
>
> Today, one sees a reconstruction of the monument on
> the original stepped
> foundation. The reconstructed monument is based on
> careful mathematical,
> engineering, and architectural studies based on
> archaeological excavations,
> the geometry of the surviving materials, and known
> triumphal architecture
> and building technology throughout the Roman world.
> All decorative
> stonework was molded as exact duplicates from the
> original surviving
> elements. The reconstructed stone monument is
> mounted around a metal frame
> and conservators can enter inside the monument for
> any preservation work
> when needed. All original sculptural elements and
> statues can be seen in
> the on-site museum.
>
> The City of Tropaeum Traiani
>
> The Roman city of Tropaeum Traiani is located 600 m
> from the modern village
> of Adamclisi and 1,500 m from the triumphal
> monument, on a plateau. The
> city has been investigated by Romanian
> archaeologists since 1891 and
> excavations continue today. The ruins cover an area
> of more than 100
> hectares. The city was occupied for five centuries,
> eventually abandoned
> as a result of migrations of Slavs into the Balkan
> Peninsula. The Roman
> city was established in the year 109 and was quickly
> settled by army
> veterans, merchants, craftsmen, and landowners. By
> 116, the Roman
> community was consolidated. The city was located in
> a highly advantageous
> geographic position which facilitated its rapid
> development. Inscriptions
> during the reign of Marcus Aurelius indicate that
> the city had the legal
> rank of 'municipium' and was lead by a senate as
> well as by numerous
> magistrates, as well as a number of priests of the
> official cult.
>
> In 170, Tropaeum Traiani was attacked from the north
> by the Costoboci,
> after which the city continued to develop. Public
> and private buildings,
> paved streets, sewage systems, aqueducts, water
> supply tank, and temples
> were constructed. Economic growth through trade and
> exploitation of local
> resources ensued, especially agricultural
> development and an increase in
> the number of wealthy farming estates (villae
> rusticae).
>
> The city was attacked again in the latter half of
> the 3rd century by the
> Carpi (a Dacian tribe in Moldavia) in alliance with
> the Goths. Much of the
> city was destroyed. At the beginning of the 4th
> century, under the
> co-emperors Constantine the Great and Licinius,
> Tropaeum Traiani was
> rebuilt, as indicated by a commemorative inscription
> dating to 316 at the
> east gate of the city.
>
> After the economic growth during the 4th century,
> Tropaeum Traiani would
> face both economic and cultural decline, as did the
> surrounding region, due
> to both poor fiscal conditions and repeated attacks
> by the Huns. But at
> the end of the 5th century and continuing into the
> latter half of the 6th
> century (during the reigns of emperors Anastasius
> and Justinian), the city
> began to flourish again becoming an important civil
> and religious center.
> This development is quite apparent through the
> construction of both public
> and religious buildings. Tropaeum Traiani became a
> bishopric in the early
> centuries of Christianity; archaeological
> excavations have revealed five
> basilicas within the city walls.
>
> The invasions of the Avars and Slavs in 586
> seriously affected the city.
> Archaeologists have found a layer of major burning.
> However, some modest
> occupation did continue on the ruins of the burnt
> city into the 7th
> century, during which time the city was completely
> abandoned.
>
> More archaeological and historical information is
> available by request.
>
>
>
>

=====
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Accensa Ordinaria Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.gensmoravia.org

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Salvete Aule Apolloni omnesque

> I notice from the results of the most recent meeting
> of the Senate (for whose publication thanks to the
> Tribunes) a statement by Senator Australicus
> suggesting that the agenda was not discussed prior to
> voting (if I've understood it correctly).

I expect that the lack of debate this time was due to a lack of controversial
items on the agenda. For the most part, we voted to prorogue governors who
have performed their jobs well. Beyond that, the only controversial item that
hadn't been discussed during the last meeting was the issue of setting a tax
floor. I had informally talked the issue over with some Senators who disagreed
with the idea off the Senate list beforehand, and I expect that they didn't see
a real need to rehash that discussion. Also, I expect that most Senatores saw
my defense of the item to you on this list and therefore didn't feel a need to
quiz me about it.

> Also, it
> seems from the comments of some Senators about the
> proposed minimum tax threshold that there was
> confusion over whether this proposal meant to set a
> minimum or a maximum tax rate - a question which would
> presumably have been cleared up swiftly in debate had
> there been a debate.

Yes. As soon as I noticed the apparent misunderstanding, I did my best to make
the item's intent clear.

> What I'm hoping is
> that someone will be so kind as to explain, for the
> benefit of myself and others, what the usual procedure
> for meetings of the Senate is, and whether there is
> usually expected to be any debate about an agenda
> before voting begins.

A consul, praetor, or tribunus plebis may call the Senate to order by providing
at least 24 hours' notice. It's not necessary for this notice to include the
agenda, but so far this courtesy has been given.

Then, the highest ranking magistrate with imperium present actually convenes
the Senate at the prescribed date and time, and presents the items to be voted
on. This magistrate has the option of deferring to a lesser magistrate if he
or she so chooses. Therefore, a praetor or tribunus plebis may only set the
Senate's agenda with the cooperation of the consules if they are present.

After this, Senatores are given at least 96 hours (4 full days) in which to
debate any item on the agenda. At the end of that period, the presiding
magistrate calls for a division, and each Senator has 48 hours in which to vote.

Those are the rules for electronic meetings. Face-to-face meetings, which have
yet to occur to my knowledge, have different rules for timing and when
Senatores may speak. The senatusconsultum setting the rules of order for the
Senate is located at http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/99073001.html .

> I feel it might benefit the general public to have an
> idea of how our Senate works, so that we don't
> continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
> in a round building declaiming to one another before
> leaping to their feet to vote by division...

As nice as it would be to actually hold our meetings in a real building while
wearing our togae praetextae, this is currently just a dream. Someday, though,
I hope to be able to declaim, at least in its definition of "to make a formal
speech", in person before my fellow Senatores.

I expect, though, that you meant declaim in its more pejorative sense. For the
most part, we frankly state our opinions and defend them as best we can.
Sometimes, we even change our minds on an issue when other people make more
sense than we do.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus

Salvete amici,
Hier die �bersetzung eines Ediktes, welches die Steuern f�r dieses Jahr festlegt:
T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus SPD

Gem�ss dem Senatus Consultum vom November des letzten Jahres, setze ich hiermit die Steuers�tze f�r das Jahr MMDCCLVI gem�ss der Tabelle am Ende dieses Ediktes, fest.

Ich ersuche ebenfalls jeden Provinzgouverneur darum, dieses Edikt in seine provinzielle Liste zu kopieren, und jeden der offiziellen �bersetzer von Nova Roma, es in diejenige Sprache zu �bersetzen, f�r welche er zust�ndig ist.

B�rger welche ihre Steuern in US Dollars bezahlen, k�nnen einen Check oder einen Zahlungsauftrag oder eine entsprechende Form der Zahlung an die folgende, offizielle Adresse von Nova Roma senden:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Andere B�rger m�ssen sich einen internationalen Zahlungsauftrag in US Dollars beschaffen, damit der ganze Steuerbetrag an die oben genannte Adresse geschickt wird. Merke, dass einzelne Checks in lokaler W�hrung, welche direkt an die Nova Roma Adresse gesendet werden, wahrscheinlich mehr Kosten um sie einzul�sen, als sie wert sind.

Hoffentlich werden einige Provinzgouverneure sich dazu entscheiden, einen zentralen Punkt in ihrer Provinz einzurichten, an welchen die B�rger ihre Steuern bezahlen k�nnen, damit die Provinz nur eine einzelne Zahlung an die Zentralkasse vornehmen muss. B�rger werden dazu angehalten, ihren Provinzialgouverneur zu kontaktieren, um herauszufinden, ob ihre Provinz das tut.

B�rger in Europa, deren Provinzialgouverneure sich entschliessen, nicht als Sammelpunkt zu agieren, k�nnen meinen Quaestor, Cn Octavius Noricus
(cn.octavius.noricus@...) kontaktieren, um eine Zahlung zu arrangieren, so sie dies wollen.

Alle B�rger welche dies k�nnen, k�nnen auch �ber unseren PayPal Service bezahlen. Dazu gibt es einen Link auf der Nova Roma Hauptseite. Es ist das purpurne Logo welches abwechselnd "DONO DARE" und "give to Nova Roma via PayPal" anzeigt, direkt unter dem Hauptmenu.

Alle B�rger sollten sich vergewissern, dass die kompletten r�mischen Namen aller B�rger nennen, f�r welche sie die Steuern bezahlen! PayPal stellt dazu ein Kommentarfeld zur Verf�gung, in welchem man die Namen angeben kann. Das stellt sicher, dass jeder B�rger, f�r welchen Steuern bezahlt wurden, auch richtigerweise als Assiduus eingeschrieben wird.

Fragen k�nnen an mich selbst (labienus@...) oder meinen Quaestor Cn Octavius (cn.octavius.noricus@...) gerichtet werden. Wenn Sie die Frage an die Hauptliste richten, senden Sie diese bitte Cc auch an meine Adresse, um sicher zu gehen, dass ich die Frage sehe.

Die Zahlungsfrist ist der letzte Tag des April. Steuern k�nnen auch sp�ter noch bezahlt werden, allerdings mit einer zus�tzlichen Strafzahlung von 50%. Ein Beispiel: Ein B�rger der $12 bezahlen sollte, muss nach der Frist $18 bezahlen.

In der folgenden Tabelle sind alle L�nder in existierenden Provinzen aufgelistet, zuerst in der Reihenfolge der Provinzen, danach alphabetisch nach Land ohne Provinzen.

Steuerbetrag

Land Provinz Lokale W�hrung

Umrechnung in US $

USA America Austrocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
USA America Austror. 12.00 USD 12.00
USA America Boreocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
USA America Mediocc. Sup. 12.00 USD 12.00
Argentinien Argentina 12.00 ARS 3.81
Israel Asia Occidentalis 35.00 ILS 7.28
T�rkei Asia Occidentalis 3700000.00 TRL 2.31
Japan Asia Orientalis 1100.00 JPY 9.31
Korea Asia Orientalis 7060.00 KRW 5.95
Malaysia Asia Orientalis 11.00 MYR 2.90
Philippinen Asia Orientalis 72.00 PHP 1.32
Singapur Asia Orientalis 14.00 SGD 8.05
Australien Australia 14.00 AUD 8.48
Tschech. Rep. Bohemia 140.00 CZK 4.75
Brasilien Brasilia 9.00 BRL 2.51
Grossbritannien Britannia 5.00 GBP 7.87
USA California 12.00 USD 12.00
Kanada Canada Occidentalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Kanada Canada Orientalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Belgien Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Frankreich Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Niederlande Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
�sterreich Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Deutschland Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Schweiz Germania 12.50 CHF 9.22
Spanien Hispania 6.00 EUR 6.46
Italien Italia 7.50 EUR 8.08
USA Lacus Magni 12.00 USD 12.00
Portugal Lusitania 5.50 EUR 5.93
United States Mediatlantica 12.00 USD 12.00
Mexiko Mexico 35.00 MXN 3.17
USA Nova Britannia 12.00 USD 12.00
Ungarn Pannonia 920.00 HUF 4.08
Slowakei Pannonia 150.00 SKK 3.87
Russland Sarmatia 90.00 RUR 2.85
Ukraine Sarmatia 7.50 UAH 1.41
D�nemark Thule 65.00 DKK 9.43
Finland Thule 8.00 EUR 8.62
Island Thule 630.00 ISK 8.12
Norwegen Thule 70.00 NOK 9.77
Schweden Thule 70.00 SEK 8.26
Polen Venedia 12.00 PLN 3.07


Albanien 180.00 ALL 1.40
Andorra 6.00 EUR 6.46
Armenien 630.00 AMD 1.17
Bosnien-Herzegowina 1.00 BAM 0.55
Bulgarien 4.00 BGL 2.21
Chile 2500.00 CLP 3.32
China 14.00 CNY 1.69
Columbien 4800.00 COP 1.62
Costa Rica 970.00 CRC 2.52
Kroatien 23.50 HRK 3.32
Griechenland 5.50 EUR 5.92
Honduras 14.00 HNL 0.82
Irland 8.50 EUR 9.16
Mazedonien 95.00 MKD 1.70
Marokko 15.00 MAD 1.51
Neu Seeland 12.00 NZD 6.70
Nicaragua 11.50 NIO 0.78
Nigeria 32.00 NGN 0.25
Rum�nien 75000.00 ROL 2.27
S�d Afrika 27.00 ZAR 3.32
Uruguay 44.00 UYU 1.56
Venezuela 3900.00 VEB 2.44
Vietnam 10798.20 VND 0.70
Jugoslawien 50.00 YUM 0.87

Valete, TiAnO



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Salvete,

A friend who knows I'm "interested in Roman stuff" forwarded this
link to me. I don't have the time to check it out myself, but thought
some of the gamers reading the main list might want to look at it.

No endorsement implied by this.

http://www.savagearena.net/

Valete,

-- Marinus

Gaius Popillius Laenas writes:

> I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) do hereby solemnly
> swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, [...]

Congratulations! Welcome to the ranks of provincial governors.
I think you're already active in the Provincial mailing list, from
being a Legate, so you've got some idea what to expect.

I wish you all the best on behalf of your neighbors to the north
in Mediatlantica. You do, indeed, step into the footsteps of a
remarkable man. But I think you're up to the challenge.

-- Marinus

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola writes:

> I believe wholeheartedly in welcoming new members. I also believe

that part

> of getting new members involved is to be interested in them. My new

personal

> policy is to identify those people that are new, especially when

they

> announce their citizenship, and send them a quick note asking them

about

> themselves, why they joined Nova Roma, what they find interesting

about

> Rome, etc. [...]

An excellent policy, and one I commend you for Agricola. I've
found it makes a good impression more often than not to welcome
new citizens.

Thank you for adopting it.

-- Marinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

> Salve,
>
> Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
> knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
> don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
> I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
> until Thursday March 5th.
>
> L. Sicinius Drusus
> Senator

Salve,

Wish you all the best with the surgery and a very speedy recovery.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

Salve,

The citizen(s) with the following voter tracking codes
has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:

# 850, 869, 882, and 883

Please remember to enter your code exactly as it is
given, and if you are unsure of your new code, follow
the instructions posted previously to obtain your
current voter code by e-mail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339

Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org


Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator

In a message dated 3/3/03 10:53:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cordus@... writes:

> so that we don't
> continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
> in a round building declaiming to one another before
> leaping to their feet to vote by division...
>

Why that's it exactly...:-)

Q. Fabius Maximus.


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Salvete cives

For those interested, here are some upcoming programs in March:

March 3 History Channel Weapons of Gladiators 8:30 pm
March 8 History Channel Hadrian's Wall 10:00 pm
March 10 Discovery Channel Mummies of Rome 10:00 pm
March 11 Learning Channel Roman Catapult 10:00 pm
March 12 Discovery Channel Roman Colosseum 9:00 pm
March 17 History Channel Mail Call - The Pilum 8:00 pm
March 19 Discovery Channel Gladiatrix 7:00 pm

All times listed are EST.

Valete,

GAIVS LANIVS FALCO
--------------------------------------------------
Acting Praefectus Sodalitas Egressus, Provincia Britannia


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Acting Praefectus Gaius Lanius Falco;

My thanks for your information. I am very pleased to see the Praefecti
of the Sodalitas Egressus performing thier offices in such an agressive
way. M congratulations to all of those Praefecti who have done so much
for Nova Roma in this way. Very Well Done!!!!

Respectfully and Fulsomely;

Marcus Minucius Audens
Prafectus Fabrum -- Sodalitas Egressus -- Nova Roma

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Just an FYI to anyone trying to reach me. I will be on vacation until March
10th, and will not have access to e-mail.

Vale:

G. Modius Athanasius


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For starters, please let me calrify: I am NOT asking for help. I take the
honor code at my school seriously, and even if it were not there, I have my
own honor as a student and integrity as a person that I take even more
seriously (maybe I'm outdated, or maybe all my peers need help).

I am however, excited about my assignment for my Western Civilization
class, and I thought I would share it:

Select 3 primary source documents from our readings between February 7th
and March 7th ? they must all be from different centuries. Focusing mainly
on the contents of these documents and an analysis of the way they use
and refer to the Greco-Roman past, write an essay, 2-3 pages in
length,discussing how the idea of the classical past, especially Rome (and
Greece too, if you choose sources that mention it), persisted in Medieval
Christian culture. Are Rome and Athens just places? Or do they exist as as
some sort of ideal, as sources of identity, as sources of civilization and
its institutions? How does this classical identity link up with a Christian
cultural identity? You may want to refer to visual evidence from
pictures of manuscripts, sculpture, architecture, artifacts, etc. in your
book.


I love this class, and I am very much looking forward to this particular
assignment. (I am such a history major)



On the subject of this class, I do have something I would appreciate advice
on. We have an art history project that follows this essay. I've already
decided I'm making a webpage. This class goes through 1650 - so if anyone
has any good ideas on art from the begining of known civilization to 1650,
feel free to suggest away. I'm leaning towards something french danse
macabre myself, but I'd love to hear what others would suggest.

Salvete Quirites,

I Have just unsubscribed from the "For The Muses" list
due to offensive macronational political spam from a
non list member. This was made possible because the
list is set up where anyone can post, rather than
limiting posts to members.

This is to advise all modarators of lists that are
associated with Nova Roma that this problem is
occuring, and that it might spread to other lists. If
your list is set up where anyone can post, it could be
spammed next. I Advise all modarators of mailing lists
to set them so that only members can post, so that
your list isn't the next victim of a spammer.


=====
L. Sicinius Drusus

Roman Citizen

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Salve Senator Sicini,

> This is to advise all modarators of lists that are
> associated with Nova Roma that this problem is
> occuring, and that it might spread to other lists. If
> your list is set up where anyone can post, it could be
> spammed next. I Advise all modarators of mailing lists
> to set them so that only members can post, so that
> your list isn't the next victim of a spammer.

That's the default setting for most lists. But it takes only seconds
to become a "member" and gain full posting priviliges.

The solution is to do as this list does: anyone can join, but all new
users are placed on moderated status until they've posted enough
that they are recognized as legitimate. That has kept this list
completely spam-free, even during the worst of the wave of porn
site adverts a few months back.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://cynico.net/~hucke/

Salve et Gratias,

I would have missed the Weapons of the Gladiators had it not been for
your email, which I read less than ten minutes before the program
started!

There are quite a few good programs this month.

Vale,

Livia Cornelia Hibernia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lanius117@a... wrote:
> Salvete cives
>
> For those interested, here are some upcoming programs in March:
>
> March 3 History Channel Weapons of Gladiators 8:30 pm
> March 8 History Channel Hadrian's Wall 10:00 pm
> March 10 Discovery Channel Mummies of Rome 10:00 pm
> March 11 Learning Channel Roman Catapult 10:00 pm
> March 12 Discovery Channel Roman Colosseum 9:00 pm
> March 17 History Channel Mail Call - The Pilum 8:00 pm
> March 19 Discovery Channel Gladiatrix 7:00 pm
>
> All times listed are EST.
>
> Valete,
>
> GAIVS LANIVS FALCO
> --------------------------------------------------
> Acting Praefectus Sodalitas Egressus, Provincia Britannia
>
>
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At http://www.muzarp.poznan.pl/muzeum/muz_eng/obrazki4.htm
is an online museum exhibit featuring the Roman period of battle
with "barbarians" in this case from Poland during the Roman era.
Fascinating site. Good example of clothing from the Roman period on
the people who traded with them in Poland along the amber trade
route about 2,000 years ago.

Octavia

Salve Consul,

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, labienus@n... wrote:
>
> A consul, praetor, or tribunus plebis may call the Senate to order
by providing
> at least 24 hours' notice. It's not necessary for this notice to
include the
> agenda, but so far this courtesy has been given.
>
> Then, the highest ranking magistrate with imperium present actually
convenes
> the Senate at the prescribed date and time, and presents the items
to be voted
> on. This magistrate has the option of deferring to a lesser
magistrate if he
> or she so chooses. Therefore, a praetor or tribunus plebis may
only set the
> Senate's agenda with the cooperation of the consules if they are
present.

Just for the record I have to restate here what I have stated before
in a discussion on the mainlist with Flavius Vedius Germanicus a long
time ago: I regard this Senatus Consultum as unconstituional in so
far as it robs the Tribunes of its agenda setting powers granted to
them under the Constitution.

Ave et Vale

Marcus Marcius Rex
Tribune of the Plebs

Salvete!

Sorry to be a nag, but this is just a friendly reminder that the voting for
the 2 vacant positions of Tribune is still going on! If you are a Plebeian
citizen and haven't voted yet, please do so now! Voting will continue until
March 6 1801 Roman time, 12:01 noon EST and 9:01 am PST. If you don't know
what to do, please see my email below.

Thanks again & valete!
Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunus Plebis

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Diana Moravia Aventina [mailto:diana@...]
Verzonden: woensdag 26 februari 2003 21:47
Aan: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [Nova-Roma] It's time to vote!


Salvete Plebeian citizens!

The third run-off election for the 2 vacant offices of Tribunus Plebis is
now under way! If you are a Plebeian citizen, please go to
http://www.novaroma.org and click 'VOTE NOW'. Voting will continue until
Thursday March 6, 18:01 Roman Time, but why wait? Vote now!

Only Plebeian citizens may vote in this election. Not sure if you are a
Plebeian? No problem. Just go to http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes
Find the name of your gens (they are listed alphabetically). Two columns to
the right of your Gens name, click on the 'number of cives'. A new page
opens that contains a listing of all the citizens in your Gens. The word
'Patrician' or 'Plebeian' will be written on the left beneath the name of
your Gens. If it says 'Plebeian' then you need to vote!

If you don't remember your voter code or are a new citizen, again, no
problem. You can have it automatically mailed to you by doing the following:

Follow the same procedure as mentioned above. When you reach the page
listing all of the citizens in your Gens, locate your name and click on the
link. On the new page you'll see a box which contains information about you.
Click on "Get voter code". On the new page, enter your year of birth and
click 'request voter code'. Your voter code will be emailed to you. Once you
have your voter code, go to http://www.novaroma.org and click 'VOTE NOW'.

Thank you for your interest in this election!

Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina
Tribunus Plebis




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A. Apollonius Cordus to Consul & Senator T. Labienus
Fortunatus and all citizens and peregrines, greetings.

Many thanks for your exposition of Senate procedures -
I feel I can better imagine now what goes on.

And just to clear up a minor point:

I said:

> I feel it might benefit the general public to have

an

> idea of how our Senate works, so that we don't
> continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
> in a round building declaiming to one another before
> leaping to their feet to vote by division...

You said:

> ... Someday, though,
> I hope to be able to declaim, at least in its
> definition of "to make a formal
> speech", in person before my fellow Senatores.
>
> I expect, though, that you meant declaim in its more
> pejorative sense.

Goodness no! I've never heard 'declaim' used in a
pejorative sense, and I can't quite think how it would
come to have one, unless by just sounding rather
formal and stuffy. Perhaps there's a divergence
between usage in North American English and my native
British English. At my secondary school a few pupils
were honoured by being asked to give 'declamations' at
the annual prize-giving ceremony. But then that was a
slightly archaic school.

Apologies to yourself and the rest of the Senate if my
choice of word offended.

Cordus

=====


www.strategikon.org


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