Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam

Huge gratitude for your welcome.
During expectation of the answer to mine apply for citizenship I have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official site and Nova Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already for a long time...
About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I hope to the aid.
And, by the way...
America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough from Moscow
(For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant detour - a
siberian joculus) I
am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe ochen ' priyatno! Spasibo!
Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that Siberia is what?
Valete!
P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu Corvinu!
(Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)

mailto:alexus1978@...

Ave,

Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.

Welcome to Nova Roma.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
<alexus1978@l...> wrote:

> Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
>
> Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> During expectation of the answer to mine apply for citizenship I

have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official site and Nova
Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already for a long
time...

> About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I hope to the

aid.

> And, by the way...
> America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough from Moscow
> (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant detour - a
> siberian joculus) I
> am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe ochen '

priyatno! Spasibo!

> Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that Siberia is what?
> Valete!
> P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu Corvinu!
> (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
>
> mailto:alexus1978@l...

Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would be "Further
Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever had was
from the Amur River.
draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
Vale Pomponia Fabia

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...> wrote:

> Ave,
>
> Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.
>
> Welcome to Nova Roma.
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
> <alexus1978@l...> wrote:
> > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
> >
> > Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> > During expectation of the answer to mine apply for citizenship I
> have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official site and

Nova

> Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already for a long
> time...
> > About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I hope to

the

> aid.
> > And, by the way...
> > America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> > Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough from Moscow
> > (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant detour - a
> > siberian joculus) I
> > am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe ochen '
> priyatno! Spasibo!
> > Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that Siberia is

what?

> > Valete!
> > P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu Corvinu!
> > (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
> >
> > mailto:alexus1978@l...

Salve

--- "Golishev Alexey G." <alexus1978@...>
escreveu: > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem
dicit plurimam

>
> Huge gratitude for your welcome.

[..]

> And, by the way...
> America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far
> enough from Moscow
> (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant
> detour - a siberian joculus) I
> am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne
> tozhe ochen ' priyatno! Spasibo!
> Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that
> Siberia is what?

M.Arminius: My apologies, Gaius Valerius. All Russia,
including Siberia, is part of our Sarmatia Provincia.
The problem is that Siberia is exaggeratingly big, and
didnt fit in our maps! :-)

> Valete!
> P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu
> Corvinu!
> (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in
> me!)

Vale
Marcus Arminius

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Salve, Pomponia Fabia; salvete, omnes -

On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:55:03PM -0000, rory12001 wrote:
> Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would be "Further

That would be "strana" ("stranitsa" is a page) or "mestnost'", possibly.
There's more than one Russophone in here. :)

> Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever had was
> from the Amur River.
> draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> Vale Pomponia Fabia


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Quod bonum, felix faustumque sit!
May it be good, fortunate and prosperous!
-- Words spoken when the Roman senate opened its session. Quoted by Cicero in "De
divitatione"

C. Valeri Publicola S.P.D. Caius Minucius Scaevola -

On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:00:29PM +0800, Golishev Alexey G. wrote:
> Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutat

Welcome to Nova Roma!

> First of all I want to thank censors and Senate and People of Nova
> Roma for great honour to refer as a citizen of Nova Roma!
> It is such pleasure - to realize, that all over the world there are
> people at which at a view of symbol SPQR heart starts to beat more
> often! I hope, as here in Russia, in Siberia I can benefit my new
> CIVITAS.

Well, well - a Sibiryak. :) I'm an ex-Muscovite, myself, but I spent a
few weeks in Siberia when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Dobro pozhalovat'!


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Graeca sunt, non leguntur.
It is Greek, you don't read that.
-- N/A

Salve

I respectfully ask that you do not do this on any NR list as it is a feature in each issue of the Eagle.

How can I get people to pay $20.00 per year for this kind of information if you GIVE it away free

( only half kidding)


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum
Fortuna Favet Fortibus

----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] This Day in Roman History Feature.


"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@...> writes:

> I Think it would be helpful if we developed a data
> base of Roman history that would be scripted to make a
> post to this list each day called "On this day in
> Roman History"

I think this is a great idea. Another list I read has
similar entries. For example, today's included:

Ancient Rome: Dianae, Vortumno, Fortunae Equestri, Herculi Victori, Castori,
Polluci, Camenis (Day of celebration of several cults, including Diana's, in
whose honor this was a holiday for all slaves)
Ancient Rome: Ides of August

-- Marinus


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Salve Cai Minuci;
Agh, mortifying mistake after all those years, toss me off the
Tarpeian Rock!
The charms of Nova Roma's Main List, where even your Russian can
be corrected. No wonder I love this place.
Vale, Pomponia Fabia

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@c...>
wrote:

> Salve, Pomponia Fabia; salvete, omnes -
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:55:03PM -0000, rory12001 wrote:
> > Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> > hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would be "Further
>
> That would be "strana" ("stranitsa" is a page) or "mestnost'",

possibly.

> There's more than one Russophone in here. :)
>
> > Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> > Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever had

was

> > from the Amur River.
> > draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> > Vale Pomponia Fabia
>
>
> Vale,
> Caius Minucius Scaevola
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

=-

> Quod bonum, felix faustumque sit!
> May it be good, fortunate and prosperous!
> -- Words spoken when the Roman senate opened its session. Quoted

by Cicero in "De

> divitatione"

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Structuring Roman History: the Consular Year and the
Roman Historical Tradition":

http://www.dur.ac.uk/Classics/histos/1997/rich1.html

This essay by John Rich (Univ. of Nottingham) discusses the issues
around the fact that, while "Livy in Books 21-45 employs a regular
internal-external-internal pattern based on the consuls' movements
between Rome and their provinces, with copious details on routine
matters in the opening and closing domestic sections...[he]
manipulates this framework freely for his own purposes, especially
when incorporating Polybian material. Moreover, the pattern is
characteristic only of his account of the Middle Republic: the annual
narratives of Books 1-10 do not conform to it, and Livy probably
abandoned it when dealing with events from the Social War on." This
is fascinating study of the structural patterns in the Roman
annalistic tradition.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

G. Iulius Scaurus Gn. Dionysio Draconi Invicto salutem dicit.

Salve, Gn. Dionysi.

> << Did we ever have a doubt about Suetonius? >>
>
> I did :p. And many of your collegues do, too.
>
> << Since he was curator of the Archives under Hardian, and even

was the official writer of his correspondence. So it would be most
likely he is the most accurate of the biographers. >>

>
> Not necessarily. Romans really liked to spice up stories. The fact

that Cicero accused >Catilina of plotting "the destruction of the
republic", even though they knew each other, >doesn't mean Cicero was
right. I certainly think Suetonius' primary aim was to entertain his

>readers.

There are some more serious problems here than the confirmation of a
passage in Suetonius about the physical connection of temple and
palace. There are few historians who reject Suetonius or Tacitus out
of hand, nor even regard them as fundamentally unreliable as they do
the accounts of the _Historia Augusta_. However, in both Suetonius
and Tacitus, as well as in Dio Cassius and the fragmentary accounts of
others of the period, identifiable rhetoric which suggests a specific
anti-Iulio-Claudian and anti-Flavian (particularly with respect to
Domitian) pro-senatorial bias. There are also identifiable biases in
favour of particular senatorial factions. The contemporary literary
sources for the reign of Caligula, Seneca the Younger and Philo
Judaeus, present significantly different perspectives on issues rised
by Suetonius (Seneca is in many ways even more florid about Caligula
than Suetonius). The problems with thesources are not simply a
product of hyper-positivist textual criticism; they are part of the
texts themselves. Furthermore, the fact of Suetonius' official
position under Hadrian is not particularly a recommendation of
accuracy. There is ample evidence of damnatio memoriae being
officially pursued against some Iulio-Claudians and Domitian from
Nerva through Marcus Aurelius, and much of Suetonius' purpose is to
highlight the golden age ushered in by Nerva and his successors by
damning some and praising others of the previous dynasties; he was
also interested in playing up the "distinguished" senate of the early
principate in comparison to the contemporary "decadent" senate which
was giving Hadrian a hard time. The suggestion that the new
archaeological evidence refutes interpretations of Caligula's reign
like Anthonhy Barrett's is rather overstated. Barrett's position is
that, despite evidence of sadistic personality disorders, Caligula was
unlikely to have been a florid madman and that his conflict with the
senate and his eventual assassination was more likely a result of his
absolute incompetence as a ruler than anything else.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

--- g_iulius_scaurus <greg@...> wrote:

> G. Iulius Scaurus Gn. Dionysio Draconi Invicto
> salutem dicit.
>
> Salve, Gn. Dionysi.
>
>
> > << Did we ever have a doubt about Suetonius? >>
> >
> > I did :p. And many of your collegues do, too.
> >
> > << Since he was curator of the Archives under
> Hardian, and even
> was the official writer of his correspondence. So
> it would be most
> likely he is the most accurate of the biographers.
> >>
> >
> > Not necessarily. Romans really liked to spice up
> stories. The fact
> that Cicero accused >Catilina of plotting "the
> destruction of the
> republic", even though they knew each other,
> >doesn't mean Cicero was
> right. I certainly think Suetonius' primary aim was
> to entertain his
> >readers.
>
> There are some more serious problems here than the
> confirmation of a
> passage in Suetonius about the physical connection
> of temple and
> palace. There are few historians who reject
> Suetonius or Tacitus out
> of hand, nor even regard them as fundamentally
> unreliable as they do
> the accounts of the _Historia Augusta_. However, in
> both Suetonius
> and Tacitus, as well as in Dio Cassius and the
> fragmentary accounts of
> others of the period, identifiable rhetoric which
> suggests a specific
> anti-Iulio-Claudian and anti-Flavian (particularly
> with respect to
> Domitian) pro-senatorial bias. There are also
> identifiable biases in
> favour of particular senatorial factions. The
> contemporary literary
> sources for the reign of Caligula, Seneca the
> Younger and Philo
> Judaeus, present significantly different
> perspectives on issues rised
> by Suetonius (Seneca is in many ways even more
> florid about Caligula
> than Suetonius). The problems with thesources are
> not simply a
> product of hyper-positivist textual criticism; they
> are part of the
> texts themselves. Furthermore, the fact of
> Suetonius' official
> position under Hadrian is not particularly a
> recommendation of
> accuracy. There is ample evidence of damnatio
> memoriae being
> officially pursued against some Iulio-Claudians and
> Domitian from
> Nerva through Marcus Aurelius, and much of
> Suetonius' purpose is to
> highlight the golden age ushered in by Nerva and his
> successors by
> damning some and praising others of the previous
> dynasties; he was
> also interested in playing up the "distinguished"
> senate of the early
> principate in comparison to the contemporary
> "decadent" senate which
> was giving Hadrian a hard time. The suggestion that
> the new
> archaeological evidence refutes interpretations of
> Caligula's reign
> like Anthonhy Barrett's is rather overstated.
> Barrett's position is
> that, despite evidence of sadistic personality
> disorders, Caligula was
> unlikely to have been a florid madman and that his
> conflict with the
> senate and his eventual assassination was more
> likely a result of his
> absolute incompetence as a ruler than anything else.
>
> Vale.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
>
>
> Vale.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
>

I Think there is a bit more to Caligula's "madness"
than simple incompatance, there were plenty of
incompatant emperors who weren't regarded as mad.

The Imperial Madness charge is most commonly leveled
at the following Emperors.

Caligula
Nero
Domitian
Commodus
Caracalla
Elagabalus

All of these men except Domitian became emperor while
in thier teens or early twenties, and Domitian was 30
and seems to have been rather immuture for his age.

I think the "madness" is the result of giving an
immature impulsive person vast power.




=====
L. Sicinius Drusus

Roman Citizen

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Right now all I'm attempting to do is to get some
feedback about having a this date feature for the main
list. I'm not out to hurt the Eagle, but you have to
admit the feature would reach far more of our citizens
on this list.

What I like about the idea is that it would increase
the general awarness of Roman History, and it would
benifit this list by ensuring that some topics of
Roman History were introduced each day for discussion.

I Have often heard that there is too much politics on
this list, well this would be a way of increasing the
number of non political discussions on the list.

--- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:

> Salve
>
> I respectfully ask that you do not do this on any NR
> list as it is a feature in each issue of the Eagle.
>
> How can I get people to pay $20.00 per year for
> this kind of information if you GIVE it away free
>
> ( only half kidding)
>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Curator Differum
> Fortuna Favet Fortibus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] This Day in Roman History
> Feature.
>
>
> "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@...> writes:
>
> > I Think it would be helpful if we developed a
> data
> > base of Roman history that would be scripted to
> make a
> > post to this list each day called "On this day
> in
> > Roman History"
>
> I think this is a great idea. Another list I read
> has
> similar entries. For example, today's included:
>
> Ancient Rome: Dianae, Vortumno, Fortunae Equestri,
> Herculi Victori, Castori,
> Polluci, Camenis (Day of celebration of several
> cults, including Diana's, in
> whose honor this was a holiday for all slaves)
> Ancient Rome: Ides of August
>
> -- Marinus
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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:)

Xiii...

Don´t speak so loud! Let´s Tifon and Cila sleeping... and praise
Concordia Publica for this delicious silence...


Vale,
Faustus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
<mballetta@h...> wrote:

> Salve, Y'all,
> Did Vesuvio blow her top and bury Nova Roma while I was away? Or

is

> everyone recuperating and poolling their enegy for our next walk
> through the winsome woods, lol.
> It is too quiet, eirily so, even the Religio list (I think there

may

> be tchnical difficultions with that one though).
> Vale

Salvete omnes,

Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the Tarquin
Kings!

<G> Valete bene,

Quintus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
<lafaustus@y...> wrote:

> :)
>
> Xiii...
>
> Don´t speak so loud! Let´s Tifon and Cila sleeping... and praise
> Concordia Publica for this delicious silence...
>
>
> Vale,
> Faustus
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > Salve, Y'all,
> > Did Vesuvio blow her top and bury Nova Roma while I was away? Or
> is
> > everyone recuperating and poolling their enegy for our next walk
> > through the winsome woods, lol.
> > It is too quiet, eirily so, even the Religio list (I think there
> may
> > be tchnical difficultions with that one though).
> > Vale

It's too hot to argue, so here's some rope and long live the King! ;-)

Palladius


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:

> Salvete omnes,
>
> Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the

Tarquin

> Kings!
>
> <G> Valete bene,
>
> Quintus
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
> <lafaustus@y...> wrote:
> > :)
> >
> > Xiii...
> >
> > Don´t speak so loud! Let´s Tifon and Cila sleeping... and praise
> > Concordia Publica for this delicious silence...
> >
> >
> > Vale,
> > Faustus
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> > <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > > Salve, Y'all,
> > > Did Vesuvio blow her top and bury Nova Roma while I was away?

Or

> > is
> > > everyone recuperating and poolling their enegy for our next

walk

> > > through the winsome woods, lol.
> > > It is too quiet, eirily so, even the Religio list (I think

there

> > may
> > > be tchnical difficultions with that one though).
> > > Vale

Salvete, Honorable Senatores

I have important news concerning a Nova Roma business venture and have sent
emails to all Senatores except the following:

Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus

I could not locate your email addess. Would the above mentioned Senatores
kindly contact me so that I may tell you the nature of the news?

Valete, respectfully

G. Lanius Falco
*******************************************************************

Legatus Provincia Nova Britannia
Acting Praefectus Sodalitas Egressus Provincia Britannia
Scriba Propraetoris Provincia Nova Britannia
Scriba Curatoris Differum
Paterfamilias Gens Lania


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Ahhhh, I see.
I see things are also cooking again.
Thanks for the update.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/13/03 9:43:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> mballetta@h... writes:
>
>
> > Did Vesuvio blow her top and bury Nova Roma while I was away?
>
> Nah...the sacrifice took care of that.
>
> Or is > everyone recuperating and poolling their enegy for our next
walk
> > through the winsome woods, lol. It is too quiet, eirily so, even
the
> > Religio list (I think there may be tchnical difficultions with
that one though).
> >
> The CP is having a discussion. When that happens it tends to turn
our focus
> inwards.
>
> Valete
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mmmmm, if anyone knows a way to overnight it to NY, let me know.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would be "Further
> Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever had
was
> from the Amur River.
> draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> Vale Pomponia Fabia
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> > Ave,
> >
> > Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.
> >
> > Welcome to Nova Roma.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
> > <alexus1978@l...> wrote:
> > > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
> > >
> > > Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> > > During expectation of the answer to mine apply for citizenship
I
> > have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official site and
> Nova
> > Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already for a
long
> > time...
> > > About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I hope to
> the
> > aid.
> > > And, by the way...
> > > America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> > > Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough from
Moscow
> > > (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant detour - a
> > > siberian joculus) I
> > > am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe
ochen '
> > priyatno! Spasibo!
> > > Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that Siberia is
> what?
> > > Valete!
> > > P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu Corvinu!
> > > (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
> > >
> > > mailto:alexus1978@l...

It was worth the mention, hadn't heard.
Someitimes I really do fell that everything I learnded was from
watching Star Trek.
Gave me my first taste of quantum mechanics and led to a healthy
appetite for physics theories.
Great tidbit on the Jeffries tubes too, thanks.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Joanne Shaver <merlinia@c...> wrote:
> From my friend, Andrewsus---
> LL&P!
> -M.
>
> I thought I'd pass this item along from the Sci-Fi Guys
newsletter...he
> deserves to me remembered!
>
> -- Matt Jeffries Dies
>
> Matt Jeffries, the man who designed the Enterprise for the
original
> "Star
> Trek" series, died this week at the age of 82. This one flew
under the
> radar, but I thought that Jeffries deserved some recognition
for
> creating
> one of the most popular pop culture icons of the century.
Jeffries was
> mentioned regularly on the original series as the engineering
crawl
> spaces
> were called Jeffries tubes.
>
> ________________________________________________
> !
> asy-to-use web site design software

lanius117@... writes:

> Salvete, Honorable Senatores
>
> I have important news concerning a Nova Roma business venture and have sent
> emails to all Senatores except the following:

<snip>

You can send e-mail to all members of the Senate by simply
addressing your e-mail to Senate (at) novaroma (dot) org.
That alias will forward mail to each Senator.

-- Marinus

On-line is the way to go today.
All my news comes off the internet; i've gone paperless some time
ago. Now I have Newsday and the NY Times on-line not to mention MNS.
Maybe there is away to get the Eagle on-line or e-mailed with a
charge so that NR can get the income.
How about an appetite whetter on the ML with just the headlines? The
Eagle or e-mail would have the details.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

> Right now all I'm attempting to do is to get some
> feedback about having a this date feature for the main
> list. I'm not out to hurt the Eagle, but you have to
> admit the feature would reach far more of our citizens
> on this list.
>
> What I like about the idea is that it would increase
> the general awarness of Roman History, and it would
> benifit this list by ensuring that some topics of
> Roman History were introduced each day for discussion.
>
> I Have often heard that there is too much politics on
> this list, well this would be a way of increasing the
> number of non political discussions on the list.
>
> --- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@m...> wrote:
> > Salve
> >
> > I respectfully ask that you do not do this on any NR
> > list as it is a feature in each issue of the Eagle.
> >
> > How can I get people to pay $20.00 per year for
> > this kind of information if you GIVE it away free
> >
> > ( only half kidding)
> >
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > Curator Differum
> > Fortuna Favet Fortibus
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] This Day in Roman History
> > Feature.
> >
> >
> > "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> writes:
> >
> > > I Think it would be helpful if we developed a
> > data
> > > base of Roman history that would be scripted to
> > make a
> > > post to this list each day called "On this day
> > in
> > > Roman History"
> >
> > I think this is a great idea. Another list I read
> > has
> > similar entries. For example, today's included:
> >
> > Ancient Rome: Dianae, Vortumno, Fortunae Equestri,
> > Herculi Victori, Castori,
> > Polluci, Camenis (Day of celebration of several
> > cults, including Diana's, in
> > whose honor this was a holiday for all slaves)
> > Ancient Rome: Ides of August
> >
> > -- Marinus
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
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>
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I like it! A tremendous way to teach us more about Ancient Rome.
Caecilia Drusa Dalmatica

Salve Faustus,
ok, i get it, lol, be vewwy, vewwy qwiet, hahahahahaha.
Just glas there wasn't an internet incident.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
<lafaustus@y...> wrote:

> :)
>
> Xiii...
>
> Don´t speak so loud! Let´s Tifon and Cila sleeping... and praise
> Concordia Publica for this delicious silence...
>
>
> Vale,
> Faustus
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > Salve, Y'all,
> > Did Vesuvio blow her top and bury Nova Roma while I was away? Or
> is
> > everyone recuperating and poolling their enegy for our next walk
> > through the winsome woods, lol.
> > It is too quiet, eirily so, even the Religio list (I think there
> may
> > be tchnical difficultions with that one though).
> > Vale

LOL, Maybe it's only in a tea cup, lol
Shao ti da tzo - tempest in a tea cup. Mandarin Chinese

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:

> Salvete omnes,
>
> Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the

Tarquin

> Kings!
>
> <G> Valete bene,
>
> Quintus
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
> <lafaustus@y...> wrote:
> > :)
> >
> > Xiii...
> >
> > Don´t speak so loud! Let´s Tifon and Cila sleeping... and praise
> > Concordia Publica for this delicious silence...
> >
> >
> > Vale,
> > Faustus
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> > <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > > Salve, Y'all,
> > > Did Vesuvio blow her top and bury Nova Roma while I was away?

Or

> > is
> > > everyone recuperating and poolling their enegy for our next

walk

> > > through the winsome woods, lol.
> > > It is too quiet, eirily so, even the Religio list (I think

there

> > may
> > > be tchnical difficultions with that one though).
> > > Vale

Call Citarella on the West Side; that's where I got mine. Bliss.
Vale, Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
<mballetta@h...> wrote:

> Mmmmm, if anyone knows a way to overnight it to NY, let me know.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...>

wrote:

> > Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> > hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would be "Further
> > Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> > Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever had
> was
> > from the Amur River.
> > draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> > Vale Pomponia Fabia
> >
> > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
> wrote:
> > > Ave,
> > >
> > > Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.
> > >
> > > Welcome to Nova Roma.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
> > > <alexus1978@l...> wrote:
> > > > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
> > > >
> > > > Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> > > > During expectation of the answer to mine apply for

citizenship

> I
> > > have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official site

and

> > Nova
> > > Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already for a
> long
> > > time...
> > > > About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I hope

to

> > the
> > > aid.
> > > > And, by the way...
> > > > America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> > > > Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough from
> Moscow
> > > > (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant detour - a
> > > > siberian joculus) I
> > > > am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe
> ochen '
> > > priyatno! Spasibo!
> > > > Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that Siberia is
> > what?
> > > > Valete!
> > > > P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu Corvinu!
> > > > (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
> > > >
> > > > mailto:alexus1978@l...

Found them to be pricey like Cariarteria in the city.
Have a good supplier on the Island and you can't tell the difference
between the Beluga and Sevruga and the Sevruga is like $25.00 and
ounce cheaper. Always interested in a good tin based on a
reccomendation.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Call Citarella on the West Side; that's where I got mine. Bliss.
> Vale, Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > Mmmmm, if anyone knows a way to overnight it to NY, let me know.
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...>
> wrote:
> > > Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> > > hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would be "Further
> > > Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> > > Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever
had
> > was
> > > from the Amur River.
> > > draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> > > Vale Pomponia Fabia
> > >
> > > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Ave,
> > > >
> > > > Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.
> > > >
> > > > Welcome to Nova Roma.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
> > > > <alexus1978@l...> wrote:
> > > > > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
> > > > >
> > > > > Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> > > > > During expectation of the answer to mine apply for
> citizenship
> > I
> > > > have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official site
> and
> > > Nova
> > > > Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already for
a
> > long
> > > > time...
> > > > > About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I hope
> to
> > > the
> > > > aid.
> > > > > And, by the way...
> > > > > America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> > > > > Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough from
> > Moscow
> > > > > (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant detour -
a
> > > > > siberian joculus) I
> > > > > am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe
> > ochen '
> > > > priyatno! Spasibo!
> > > > > Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that Siberia
is
> > > what?
> > > > > Valete!
> > > > > P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu Corvinu!
> > > > > (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
> > > > >
> > > > > mailto:alexus1978@l...

Frankly don't even bother with the Caspian roe, it is all old,
salted and stored and the Caspian polluted with heavy metal.
I haven't had the American but the Amur is better than Caspian
beluga, and far cheaper. Treat yourself for Saturnalia,
Vale Pomponia Fabia

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
<mballetta@h...> wrote:

> Found them to be pricey like Cariarteria in the city.
> Have a good supplier on the Island and you can't tell the

difference

> between the Beluga and Sevruga and the Sevruga is like $25.00 and
> ounce cheaper. Always interested in a good tin based on a
> reccomendation.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...>

wrote:

> > Call Citarella on the West Side; that's where I got mine. Bliss.
> > Vale, Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica
> >
> > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> > <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > > Mmmmm, if anyone knows a way to overnight it to NY, let me know.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> > > > hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would

be "Further

> > > > Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> > > > Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I ever
> had
> > > was
> > > > from the Amur River.
> > > > draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> > > > Vale Pomponia Fabia
> > > >
> > > > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine"

<alexious@e...>

> > > wrote:
> > > > > Ave,
> > > > >
> > > > > Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome to Nova Roma.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
> > > > > <alexus1978@l...> wrote:
> > > > > > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> > > > > > During expectation of the answer to mine apply for
> > citizenship
> > > I
> > > > > have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official

site

> > and
> > > > Nova
> > > > > Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already

for

> a
> > > long
> > > > > time...
> > > > > > About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I

hope

> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > aid.
> > > > > > And, by the way...
> > > > > > America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> > > > > > Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough

from

> > > Moscow
> > > > > > (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant

detour -

> a
> > > > > > siberian joculus) I
> > > > > > am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne tozhe
> > > ochen '
> > > > > priyatno! Spasibo!
> > > > > > Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that

Siberia

> is
> > > > what?
> > > > > > Valete!
> > > > > > P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu

Corvinu!

> > > > > > (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > mailto:alexus1978@l...

Would anyone be willing to actually write a Latin novel (in Latin,
I'm meaning)? Instead of all these translations out there,
civilizations are established and remembered through Literature (and
does a new empire really want to be remembered for translating the
Cat in the Hat?).
I'm up to suggestions or working on a group project.
Valete.
~Antonina Flacca Laelia

Salvete,

Does anyone know what's wrong with the Religio List? There have been no new
messages delivered or posted on the list website since Monday.

Valete,

C. Minucius Hadrianus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- "C. Minucius Hadrianus" <hadrianus@...>
wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Does anyone know what's wrong with the Religio List?
> There have been no new
> messages delivered or posted on the list website
> since Monday.
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Minucius Hadrianus
>

Sicinius hasn't been stiring up trouble? :-)



=====
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Roman Citizen

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Lot's of cities in the NE US and Canada have had massive Power Outages.
The cause is unknown at this time.


Sextus Cornelius Cotta
AIM: Walhalla47
JabberIM: custos@...

Power is still up here in Baltimore, but I've heard about loss of power
in New York City, and as far west as Detroit and Toledo. Looks like
the whole northeast grid suffered some kind of incident.

-- Gn. Equitius Marinus

This isn't the first time this has happened. It
happened in 1965 and 1977.

Both cases were cascading failures caused by an
overload in the Northeren Power Grid.

--- Bill Gawne <gawne@...> wrote:

> Power is still up here in Baltimore, but I've heard
> about loss of power
> in New York City, and as far west as Detroit and
> Toledo. Looks like
> the whole northeast grid suffered some kind of
> incident.
>
> -- Gn. Equitius Marinus
>

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Salve, Pomponia Fabia -

On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:45:45AM -0000, rory12001 wrote:
> Salve Cai Minuci;
> Agh, mortifying mistake after all those years, toss me off the
> Tarpeian Rock!

<laugh> I certainly hope not - if a single mistake in a foreign language
was to be treated that intolerantly, you'd definitely bounce off my
remains... mistakes while learning are not only reasonable, they're
a good sign - if you're not making any mistakes, you're not learning
anything. Or living, for that matter. As I tell my students, "you're
supposed to be knowledgeable going out, not coming in."

> The charms of Nova Roma's Main List, where even your Russian can
> be corrected. No wonder I love this place.

It can be quite the bazaar of the bizarre once in a while, a forum (though an
indoor one :) at other times, and a history symposium at yet others. Me, I try
to enjoy it all - it's turned out to be both more *and* less than I had
originally expected, but I don't consider breadth of scope to be a bad thing at
all.


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Difficile est saturam non scribere.
It is hard not to write satire.
-- Juvenalis, "Saturae"

Salvete,

Nova Britannia seems to be unaffected, but my Fiancé in Canada Occidentalis
says that there is no power in either the Toronto or Ottawa areas.

Valete,

C. Minucius Hadrianus

-----Original Message-----
From: gawne@... [mailto:gawne@...] On Behalf Of Bill
Gawne
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:55 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Power Outages in Northeast US and Canada

Power is still up here in Baltimore, but I've heard about loss of power
in New York City, and as far west as Detroit and Toledo. Looks like
the whole northeast grid suffered some kind of incident.

-- Gn. Equitius Marinus


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Salvete,

Hartford is down from what I have heard and I can't reach some
friends in Springfield, Mass, even their answering machine isn't
picking up and they have only cordless phones at their house, which
don't work when the base is without power and their cells aren't
answering either. Here in Vermont there have been no problems yet
(knocks on wood).

Valete,

Palladius


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Minucius Hadrianus"
<hadrianus@3...> wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Nova Britannia seems to be unaffected, but my Fiancé in Canada

Occidentalis

> says that there is no power in either the Toronto or Ottawa areas.
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Minucius Hadrianus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gawne@e... [mailto:gawne@e...] On Behalf Of Bill
> Gawne
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:55 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Power Outages in Northeast US and Canada
>
> Power is still up here in Baltimore, but I've heard about loss of

power

> in New York City, and as far west as Detroit and Toledo. Looks like
> the whole northeast grid suffered some kind of incident.
>
> -- Gn. Equitius Marinus
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
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Originally they were woven into the tunic.
Caius Tarquitius Saturninus

>
> Continuing a thread about costume making, and having lucked out with my
> last
> one, I ask:
> On the tunic, are the clavii (vertical stripes, not nails) an integral
> part
> of the garment, or just sewn over the tunic? If the latter is true, I'm
> thinking I could easilly make one this week.
>
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Salve!

Does anyone have information on the Etruscan Deities Tuchulcha and Charun?
I'd very much appreciate the sharing of such knowledge (or links if on the
web.) Thank you!

Take care!
Be well!
Much love!

Vale!

~ Anneia


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Romans

There will be an on-line version of the Eagle in time but we can not just be an internet "society" . We need more than a monitor and keyboard.

Coins in our pockets, flags to wave, gatherings to attend ,a newsletter that comes in the mail,
a " Nova Roman city" to walk its streets. These are just a few of the things we Nova Romans need.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
curator Differum

----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: This Day in Roman History Feature.


On-line is the way to go today.
All my news comes off the internet; i've gone paperless some time
ago. Now I have Newsday and the NY Times on-line not to mention MNS.
Maybe there is away to get the Eagle on-line or e-mailed with a
charge so that NR can get the income.
How about an appetite whetter on the ML with just the headlines? The
Eagle or e-mail would have the details.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Right now all I'm attempting to do is to get some
> feedback about having a this date feature for the main
> list. I'm not out to hurt the Eagle, but you have to
> admit the feature would reach far more of our citizens
> on this list.
>
> What I like about the idea is that it would increase
> the general awarness of Roman History, and it would
> benifit this list by ensuring that some topics of
> Roman History were introduced each day for discussion.
>
> I Have often heard that there is too much politics on
> this list, well this would be a way of increasing the
> number of non political discussions on the list.
>
> --- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@m...> wrote:
> > Salve
> >
> > I respectfully ask that you do not do this on any NR
> > list as it is a feature in each issue of the Eagle.
> >
> > How can I get people to pay $20.00 per year for
> > this kind of information if you GIVE it away free
> >
> > ( only half kidding)
> >
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > Curator Differum
> > Fortuna Favet Fortibus
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] This Day in Roman History
> > Feature.
> >
> >
> > "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> writes:
> >
> > > I Think it would be helpful if we developed a
> > data
> > > base of Roman history that would be scripted to
> > make a
> > > post to this list each day called "On this day
> > in
> > > Roman History"
> >
> > I think this is a great idea. Another list I read
> > has
> > similar entries. For example, today's included:
> >
> > Ancient Rome: Dianae, Vortumno, Fortunae Equestri,
> > Herculi Victori, Castori,
> > Polluci, Camenis (Day of celebration of several
> > cults, including Diana's, in
> > whose honor this was a holiday for all slaves)
> > Ancient Rome: Ides of August
> >
> > -- Marinus
> >
> >
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Salve Caecilia Drusa Dalmatica

You mean like this.

( if you want to see the pictures that come with this you need to get a subscription to the Eagle)

This Month in Roman History:
August
By Q. Cassius Calvus
1
?
10 BCE
Claudius, Roman Emperor Born

527 CE
Justin I Eastern R. E. died

2
216 BCE
?
Hannibal routes Romans at Cannae

47 BCE
" I came, I saw, I conquered"
Caesar upon the defeat of Pharnaces, King of Pontus, at Zela

3
30 BCE
Octavian captured Alexandria
Antony and Cleopatra commit suicide
6
Flavius Julius Constantius ERE born
7
461 CE
Majorian, RE died
8
117 CE
Trajan Roman Emperor died
9
48 BCE
Battle of Pharsalus Caesar defeats Pompey but does not capture him

378 CE
Valens, RE defeated and killed by Goths at Battle of Adrianople
11
490 CE
Theodoric and Osgoths defeat the Romans at Addua
12
49 BCE
Afranius, Petreius and Varron, allies of Pompey surrender to Caesar in Spain
13
29 BC
First of three Roman triumphs held for Octavian
15
310 CE
Gratian, W R E killed
19
?
14 CE
Octavius Augustus
First Roman Emperor died
23
79 CE
Lava closed the harbor at Herculaneum, making escape from Pompeii and Mt. Vesuvius impossible
24
79 CE
Two days of eruptions by Mt. Vesuvius destroys Pompeii
& Herculaneum
410 CE
Alaric and his Goths entered and sacked Rome
27
423 CE
Flavius Honorius W R E died
489 CE
Goths defeat the Romans at the Battle of Isonzo
31
12 CE
Caligula, Roman Emperor Born
161 CE
Marcus Antoninus
Roman Emperor Born

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I like it! A tremendous way to teach us more about Ancient Rome.
Caecilia Drusa Dalmatica


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Salvete Quirites.

Today, I´´m starting my summer vacations. I´ll be absent until august 24
and I´ll be back at august 25.

My proxy as governor for Germania will be my friend and legate Quintus
Quinctilius Varus Galili.

Bene Valete
Caius Flavius DIocletianus
Censor, Senator
Propraetor Germaniae

>> Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the
>Tarquin

>> Kings!>It's too hot to argue, so here's some rope and long live the King!

;-)

Salve Palladius,

LOL! Ahh, our fun-lovin' Praetor Palladius is still here! Thank the Gods!
For a moment or two I thought that the Curule Aedile Marinus had taken over
your job.

So until I can figure out an argument to start with someone <joke!>, I'm
with you and Quintus! Where's the gallows?

Vale,
Diana

Salvete,

The mock elections seem to have been going on for some
time now. Are we any nearer to a result? I'm sure it
is not the case, but given the importance of these
elections in determining the viability of the proposed
electoral reforms, it would be a shame if they were
not brought to a successful conclusion.

Or have I just missed something?

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus

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Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Roman Handling Box Objects":

http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/romanh/

This guide, by Sally-Ann Ashton (Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology
and University College London), to the identification and handling of
eleven everyday objects found in Roman Egypt for undergraduate and
graduate students in archaeeology with photographs of the artifacts.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

G. Iulius Scaurus Anneiae salutem dicit.

Salve, Anneia.

> Does anyone have information on the Etruscan Deities Tuchulcha and

Charun?

> I'd very much appreciate the sharing of such knowledge (or links if

on the

> web.) Thank you!

The only reliable online information of which I am aware is a set of
photographs of wall-paintings of Tuchulcha and Charun in the Tomba
dell'Orco in Tarquinia::

http://www.ou.edu/class/ahi4163/files/tomb13.html

Charun was an Etruscan deity/demon (which depends on the analytical
framework you adopt) associated with the underworld and usually
portrayed with a hammer; some art historians believe that images of
Charun were influential in the development of the iconography of the
Christian devil. Tuchulcha was Charun's female counterpart and was
usually portrayed as a hideous winged entity.

For more detailed discussion of these deities, I recommend:

Bonfante, L., ed. _Etruscan Life and After-Life_. Detroit, 1986.

Gaultier, F., and D. Briquel. _Les Étrusques. Les plus religieux des
hommes_. Paris, 1997.

Jannot J.-R. _Devins, dieux et démons. Regards sur la religion de
l'Étrurie antique_. Paris, 1998.

Pfiffig, A.J. _Religio Etrusca_. Graz, 1975.

Stoltenberg, H.L. _Etruskische Gottnamen_. Leverkusen, 1957.

Weinstock, S. "Etruscan demons," in _Studi in onore di Luisa Banti_.
Rome, 1965. 345-350.

I hope this is helpful.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

G. Iulius Scaurus D. Moraviae Aventinae salutem dicit.

Salve, D. Moravia.

>>> Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the
>>>TarquinKings!
>>
>>It's too hot to argue, so here's some rope and long live the King!
>> ;-)

[snip]

> So until I can figure out an argument to start with someone <joke!>, I'm
> with you and Quintus! Where's the gallows?

Not that I'm inclined to protest a perfectly good hanging, but,
praetorian endorsement or not, I should remind you and your
revolutionary comrades that advocating a monarchy, much less
advocating restoration of the Tarquins, was criminally actionable as
perduellio, the "greater" treason. Nasty business that. It required
trial by a jury of patricians of such antique heritage that only the
Iulii and Sergii could serve. Conviction resulted in a particularly
gruesome crucifixion. And I have no taste for jury duty :-).

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salvete quirites,

Decimus Iunius Silanus wrote:

> The mock elections seem to have been going on for some
> time now.

They actually ended on schedule. What has *not* happened
is an official report to me from the Chief Rogator, who
I think must have taken off for Pennsic and forgotten
about the need to wrap up that loose end.

I just yesterday sent a note to the Rogators informing them
that I will publish the results myself this weekend (since
I have the raw numbers) if I don't get an official report.

> Are we any nearer to a result?

Yes, we are. I'm pleased to say that it worked pretty
well, and that the results reflect not only the choice
of the centuries, but also track with the popular vote.

One way or another, I'll post results this upcoming Sunday,
the 17th.

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
Curule Aedile
My Curule Aedile website is http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~gawne/ca.html

C.publicola omnibus SPD

It is interesting to me - who is the Novus Romanus?

Whether interrogation - sociological and (or) politological was sometime?

Valete.


mailto:alexus1978@...

C.Publicola omnibus SPD

Somebody has links to translation of the modern literature into Latin?

I have just read McCullough's Fortune's Favorites in English.
Also I have the English copy of the First Man in Rome. I read a Grass Crown in more - less normal Russian translation. Russian translation of the First Man in Rome not simply bad, it is ridiculous to the person having even small representation about the Roman terminology.

Despite of it I think Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome is a best Roman fiction series in the world! It is problem to search for these books in English in the Russian province - wide range is only in the big cities - capitals of areas.

It is vain hope to find this series in Internet in an electronic variant?

Valete.


mailto:alexus1978@...

Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutat

I somewhere heard (or read) about Thesaurus Linguae Latinae by Mommsen. What is such? Whether there is it at somebody?

Question on a latin lexicography...
The most extensive russko-latin dictionary - the dictionary of Dvoretsky containing about 200 thousand of words and phrases.
Whether there is the bilingual dictionary containing a lot of words?

Valete.

mailto:alexus1978@...

Sounds like a plan.
I don't need to be told twice to treat myself.
I belive in excessive self indulgence to keep the mind and body
young, lol.
I usually have to get 2 6oz tins - one for me and one for everyone
else, lol.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Frankly don't even bother with the Caspian roe, it is all old,
> salted and stored and the Caspian polluted with heavy metal.
> I haven't had the American but the Amur is better than Caspian
> beluga, and far cheaper. Treat yourself for Saturnalia,
> Vale Pomponia Fabia
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > Found them to be pricey like Cariarteria in the city.
> > Have a good supplier on the Island and you can't tell the
> difference
> > between the Beluga and Sevruga and the Sevruga is like $25.00 and
> > ounce cheaper. Always interested in a good tin based on a
> > reccomendation.
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...>
> wrote:
> > > Call Citarella on the West Side; that's where I got mine.
Bliss.
> > > Vale, Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica
> > >
> > > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> > > <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > > > Mmmmm, if anyone knows a way to overnight it to NY, let me
know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001"
<rory12001@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Salve Cai Valeri ( i zdrastvi);
> > > > > hmm, Sibir, stranitsa krasivaya, perhaps it would
> be "Further
> > > > > Sarmatia" What is the Latin for that, anyone?
> > > > > Where are you Perm? Vladivostock?, the best caviar I
ever
> > had
> > > > was
> > > > > from the Amur River.
> > > > > draw up your stool, arrange your toga & enjoy,
> > > > > Vale Pomponia Fabia
> > > > >
> > > > > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine"
> <alexious@e...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Ave,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Siberia is also included in Sarmatia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome to Nova Roma.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vale,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Golishev Alexey G."
> > > > > > <alexus1978@l...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Huge gratitude for your welcome.
> > > > > > > During expectation of the answer to mine apply for
> > > citizenship
> > > > I
> > > > > > have had time to get acquainted with Nova Roma official
> site
> > > and
> > > > > Nova
> > > > > > Roma ML. Fairly, I feel, that I know many of you already
> for
> > a
> > > > long
> > > > > > time...
> > > > > > > About my request about Mommsen's Roman State Law - I
> hope
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > aid.
> > > > > > > And, by the way...
> > > > > > > America is a big too, only a few more occupied:)
> > > > > > > Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica! Though I live far enough
> from
> > > > Moscow
> > > > > > > (For us 500 km there, 500 km here is not a distant
> detour -
> > a
> > > > > > > siberian joculus) I
> > > > > > > am really glad to be here (I mean in NR). And mne
tozhe
> > > > ochen '
> > > > > > priyatno! Spasibo!
> > > > > > > Mmm... A question... If Russia is Sarmatia, that
> Siberia
> > is
> > > > > what?
> > > > > > > Valete!
> > > > > > > P.S. Privet moemu paterfamilias'u Marcu Valeriyu
> Corvinu!
> > > > > > > (Ye Gods! Because of my English a teeth hurt in me!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > mailto:alexus1978@l...

No, I was getting concerned myself and posted my inquiry.
I thought it may have to do with what kept the ML quiet but it still
has not been resolved - someone mentioned tech problems (think it was
me).

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Minucius Hadrianus"
<hadrianus@3...> wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Does anyone know what's wrong with the Religio List? There have

been no new

> messages delivered or posted on the list website since Monday.
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Minucius Hadrianus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes, me and my big mouth about things being too quiet and Vesuvio
blowing her top - talk about making Augurs and premonitions!
I was in the City when it all hit the fan but all is almost back to
normal.
I heard they are blaming Canada - Just like SouthPark, lol.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Charlie Collins <cotta@s...> wrote:
> Lot's of cities in the NE US and Canada have had massive Power
Outages.
> The cause is unknown at this time.
>
>
> Sextus Cornelius Cotta
> AIM: Walhalla47
> JabberIM: custos@m...

A mi tuo fo!
Take heart in the merciful Buddha!
From your mouth to the Gods ears my friend! I have a similar picture
in my mind for a possible future and I hope it isn't SIM City, lol.
I'm easy and whatever works best has my support.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:

> Salve Romans
>
> There will be an on-line version of the Eagle in time but we can

not just be an internet "society" . We need more than a monitor and
keyboard.

>
> Coins in our pockets, flags to wave, gatherings to attend ,a

newsletter that comes in the mail,

> a " Nova Roman city" to walk its streets. These are just a few of

the things we Nova Romans need.

>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> curator Differum
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:55 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: This Day in Roman History Feature.
>
>
> On-line is the way to go today.
> All my news comes off the internet; i've gone paperless some time
> ago. Now I have Newsday and the NY Times on-line not to mention

MNS.

> Maybe there is away to get the Eagle on-line or e-mailed with a
> charge so that NR can get the income.
> How about an appetite whetter on the ML with just the headlines?

The

> Eagle or e-mail would have the details.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
> <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> > Right now all I'm attempting to do is to get some
> > feedback about having a this date feature for the main
> > list. I'm not out to hurt the Eagle, but you have to
> > admit the feature would reach far more of our citizens
> > on this list.
> >
> > What I like about the idea is that it would increase
> > the general awarness of Roman History, and it would
> > benifit this list by ensuring that some topics of
> > Roman History were introduced each day for discussion.
> >
> > I Have often heard that there is too much politics on
> > this list, well this would be a way of increasing the
> > number of non political discussions on the list.
> >
> > --- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@m...> wrote:
> > > Salve
> > >
> > > I respectfully ask that you do not do this on any NR
> > > list as it is a feature in each issue of the Eagle.
> > >
> > > How can I get people to pay $20.00 per year for
> > > this kind of information if you GIVE it away free
> > >
> > > ( only half kidding)
> > >
> > >
> > > Vale
> > >
> > > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > > Curator Differum
> > > Fortuna Favet Fortibus
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] This Day in Roman History
> > > Feature.
> > >
> > >
> > > "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@y...> writes:
> > >
> > > > I Think it would be helpful if we developed a
> > > data
> > > > base of Roman history that would be scripted to
> > > make a
> > > > post to this list each day called "On this day
> > > in
> > > > Roman History"
> > >
> > > I think this is a great idea. Another list I read
> > > has
> > > similar entries. For example, today's included:
> > >
> > > Ancient Rome: Dianae, Vortumno, Fortunae Equestri,
> > > Herculi Victori, Castori,
> > > Polluci, Camenis (Day of celebration of several
> > > cults, including Diana's, in
> > > whose honor this was a holiday for all slaves)
> > > Ancient Rome: Ides of August
> > >
> > > -- Marinus
> > >
> > >
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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:

> >> Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the
> >Tarquin
>
> >> Kings!>It's too hot to argue, so here's some rope and long live

the King!

> ;-)
>
> Salve Palladius,

Salve Diana,

> LOL! Ahh, our fun-lovin' Praetor Palladius is still here! Thank the
>Gods!
> For a moment or two I thought that the Curule Aedile Marinus had
>taken over your job.

Perhaps he wants the practice for when he runs next year. ;-)

I'm here everyday reading, I just don't feel the need to respond to
every post. We have a very hands off policy as praetors, we're here
to moderate people when they get out of hand, not guide their
discussion.

> So until I can figure out an argument to start with someone <joke!
>, I'm
> with you and Quintus! Where's the gallows?

Over that way I think! <points> :-)

Vale,

Palladius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "g_iulius_scaurus" <greg@b...>
wrote:
Salve Iuli Scaure,

> >>> Aha, you both spoke loud enough! Hang the Pope, long live the
> >>>TarquinKings!
> >>
> >>It's too hot to argue, so here's some rope and long live the King!
> >> ;-)
>
> [snip]
>
> > So until I can figure out an argument to start with someone <joke!
>, I'm
> > with you and Quintus! Where's the gallows?
>
> Not that I'm inclined to protest a perfectly good hanging, but,
> praetorian endorsement or not, I should remind you and your
> revolutionary comrades that advocating a monarchy, much less
> advocating restoration of the Tarquins, was criminally actionable as
> perduellio, the "greater" treason. Nasty business that. It
>required trial by a jury of patricians of such antique heritage that
>only the Iulii and Sergii could serve. Conviction resulted in a
>particularly gruesome crucifixion. And I have no taste for jury
>duty :-).

Nor I for being crucified. Hmm, perhaps we should rethink reinstating
the Kings. :-)

I think you'd be safe from jury duty though. If such jury guidelines
were applied to Nova Roman gentes the jury would be Cassians and
Iunians. I have no desire to put my gensmates--especially my fellow
monarchist Silanus--through that. The revolution is over!! :-)

Vale,

Palladius

Salvete,
After four months of moving, I'm finally at a point where I can rejoin the
current NR events. I signed on today to the lovely sight of an unprecedented 927
emails. After many hours I believe I am all caught up on the current events,
but if there is anything I should know about then please contact me. I would
like to apologize to Gnaeus Equitius Marinus for not keeping in contact, I had
no idea it would take this long. (And if you can believe it, I still wont have
my furniture till Monday)

Aside from my personal business, I am now in provincia Britannia.
(Specifically Newquay,Corwall) So I wish to give my salutations to Propraetor Decimus
Iunius Silanus and all my fellow citizens here, whom I hope to be involved with
soon enough.

On another piece of business, I have just received a Mailerdaemon when I
attempted to contact the Pontifical College. Is the College still up and running?

Its lovely to be back and I look forward to my future dealings within Nova
Roma. Good fortune be upon you all!

Valete,
I.A.A.Musa



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Salve Scaurus,

> Not that I'm inclined to protest a perfectly good hanging, but,
> praetorian endorsement or not,

LOL!

<I should remind you and your revolutionary comrades that advocating a
monarchy, much less

> advocating restoration of the Tarquins, was criminally actionable as
> perduellio, the "greater" treason.

Oops. Ok, skip the King thing then, but can we still hang somebody? It
doesn't have to be the Pope because actually I'm rather fond him. You gotta
have admiration for a man that still comes across as Holy even while
drooling during Easter Mass. :-p

<Nasty business that. It required trial by a jury of patricians of such
antique heritage that

>only the Iulii and Sergii could serve. Conviction resulted in a
>particularly gruesome crucifixion. And I have no taste for jury
>duty :-).

Sounds nasty... Unless of course we could all sing 'Always Look on the
Bright Side of Life' while hanging there :-)

Vale,
Diana

The beautiful and talented Iulia Annea Apollonia Musa writes:

> After four months of moving, I'm finally at a point where I can rejoin the
> current NR events.

And there was much rejoicing!

> I would like to apologize to Gnaeus Equitius Marinus for not keeping
> in contact,

No apology necessary. I figured you were experiencing the simple joys
of a military move, and that you'd be back eventually. I hope all is
well with you.

> Aside from my personal business, I am now in provincia Britannia.
> (Specifically Newquay,Corwall)

If you want to be officially transfered on the census rolls, you should
drop a note to the Censors [ Censores (at) novaroma (dot) org ] to let
them know. Mediatlantica is poorer for the loss of you, but I feel
sure you'll come back someday.

-- Marinus

Welcome back!
It is almost like a Soap Opera by comparison to the Message Boards.
You can tune out for a few weeks and when you come back, pretty much
the same things are still going on and you can jump right back in
without missing a beat on the important matters (just some minor
nuances), lol.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, aneaapollonia@a... wrote:
> Salvete,
> After four months of moving, I'm finally at a point where I can
rejoin the
> current NR events. I signed on today to the lovely sight of an
unprecedented 927
> emails. After many hours I believe I am all caught up on the
current events,
> but if there is anything I should know about then please contact
me. I would
> like to apologize to Gnaeus Equitius Marinus for not keeping in
contact, I had
> no idea it would take this long. (And if you can believe it, I
still wont have
> my furniture till Monday)
>
> Aside from my personal business, I am now in provincia Britannia.
> (Specifically Newquay,Corwall) So I wish to give my salutations to
Propraetor Decimus
> Iunius Silanus and all my fellow citizens here, whom I hope to be
involved with
> soon enough.
>
> On another piece of business, I have just received a Mailerdaemon
when I
> attempted to contact the Pontifical College. Is the College still
up and running?
>
> Its lovely to be back and I look forward to my future dealings
within Nova
> Roma. Good fortune be upon you all!
>
> Valete,
> I.A.A.Musa
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Diana Moravia Aventina <diana@...> writes:

> Oops. Ok, skip the King thing then, but can we still hang somebody?

How about Odin? I understand he's done it to himself before.

Of course, proper Roman practice would call for either
crucifictions or beheadings. Perhaps we could announce
a list of proscriptions after the results of the mock
consular election are revealed?

-- Marinus

Salve Domina Diana,
No need to hang him, doesn't look like he has much time left anyway.
He had a great career though and an interesting life even for a
politician. He made it through some very hard and rough times -
can't make it to his status without being able to survive the cut
thoat and back stabbing; he earned my respect their and I have to
admire him for holding the reins and controlling and manipulating
such a large portion of the worlds population and political agenda.
Will be very interesting to see what follows in the wake of his death.

Hangings are a bit anticlimatic though. Not entertaining like a
battle, hand to hand or weapons tournament or even a suicide (people
just love to yell JUMP), lol. All in fun, no doubt this is subject
to some serious twisting to create an argument - we shall see, shan't
we, lol.
Vale
M.A.B.




--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:

> Salve Scaurus,
>
> > Not that I'm inclined to protest a perfectly good hanging, but,
> > praetorian endorsement or not,
> LOL!
>
> <I should remind you and your revolutionary comrades that

advocating a

> monarchy, much less
> > advocating restoration of the Tarquins, was criminally actionable

as

> > perduellio, the "greater" treason.
>
> Oops. Ok, skip the King thing then, but can we still hang somebody?

It

> doesn't have to be the Pope because actually I'm rather fond him.

You gotta

> have admiration for a man that still comes across as Holy even while
> drooling during Easter Mass. :-p
>
> <Nasty business that. It required trial by a jury of patricians

of such

> antique heritage that
> >only the Iulii and Sergii could serve. Conviction resulted in a
> >particularly gruesome crucifixion. And I have no taste for jury
> >duty :-).
>
> Sounds nasty... Unless of course we could all sing 'Always Look on

the

> Bright Side of Life' while hanging there :-)
>
> Vale,
> Diana

--- "C.Valerius Publicola" <alexus1978@...> wrote:

> C.Publicola omnibus SPD
>
> Somebody has links to translation of the modern
> literature into Latin?
>
> I have just read McCullough's Fortune's Favorites in
> English.
> Also I have the English copy of the First Man in
> Rome. I read a Grass Crown in more - less normal
> Russian translation. Russian translation of the
> First Man in Rome not simply bad, it is ridiculous
> to the person having even small representation about
> the Roman terminology.
>
> Despite of it I think Colleen McCullough's Masters
> of Rome is a best Roman fiction series in the world!
> It is problem to search for these books in English
> in the Russian province - wide range is only in the
> big cities - capitals of areas.
>
> It is vain hope to find this series in Internet in
> an electronic variant?
>

Yes it's a vain hope. International law prohibits
posting copyrighted books on the internet.



=====
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Not much in the documented works but how is this for starters:
Charun, demon of death who torments the souls of the deceased in the
underworld. He also guards the entrance to the underworld. He is
similar to the Greek Charon. Charun is portrayed with the nose of a
vulture, pointed ears and is usually winged. His attribute is the
hammer, with which he finished off his victims.
Tuchulcha, demoness of the underworld, a horrible, winged creature
with snake-hair and the beak of a bird.

Like the horns, the hammer is a symbol of power; it represents both
destruction and creation, for the hammer can be used to smash things
to bits, but also to forge new creations. As an attribute of
Hephaistos, the hammer is a symbol of creation (the creative power of
the smith god). However, as an attribute of Charun, an Etruscan
underworld deity (see below) who inspired medieval images of the
Devil, it is a symbol of destruction and punishment. (Biedermenn s.v.
hammer; Case 164)

The figure of the Devil may derive from the Etruscan demon Charun,
who is related to Charon (Kharon = Bright- or Fierce-eyed), the
ferryman of the Dead in Greek mythology. However, the two differ in
significant ways. First, Charun is invariably seen with a hammer, and
may have originally been a hammer-god, who was later associated with
the ferryman. Second, while the Greeks' Charon was hardly cheery, he
falls far short of the fearsome Etruscan demon, who was pictured with
a hooked nose, pointed donkey ears, flaming eyes, goatee, wolf-fangs,
a monkey face, greenish-grey skin, wings (sometimes) and serpents for
hair. He wears a short tunic, as in our image, and uses his mallet to
crush the skulls of the dead and dying. Interestingly, Charun and his
demon colleague Tuchulcha (whom we see on the walls of the Tomba
dell'Orco in Tarquinia), are sometimes shown with winged feet, which
remind us that they are angels of death, psychopomps like Hermes.
(See illustrations in Wellard, 38-9, 102, 140, 169.) (Biedermann s.v.
Devil; Bonnefoy, R&EM 42; OCD s.v. Charon; Wellard 127, 150, 169)



Pictures:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/evil/hod/hod13.htm#page_197

Sorry, not much help but maybe it will create a stepping stone of
sorts.
Vale

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PrincessandHope@a... wrote:
> Salve!
>
> Does anyone have information on the Etruscan Deities Tuchulcha and
Charun?
> I'd very much appreciate the sharing of such knowledge (or links if
on the
> web.) Thank you!
>
> Take care!
> Be well!
> Much love!
>
> Vale!
>
> ~ Anneia
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

"C.Valerius Publicola" <alexus1978@...> writes:

> I have just read McCullough's Fortune's Favorites in English.

It's been a few years since I read them, but I really liked them.

[...]

> Despite of it I think Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome is a best Roman
> fiction series in the world!

Some would claim that Steven Saylor's stories of Gordianus
the Finder are better, but I solved that problem by reading
both series. Personally, I prefer McCullough too, though
Saylor's books are worth reading.

> It is vain hope to find this series in Internet in an electronic variant?

You're not going to find free text on the net, but I note
that the most recent novel in the Masters of Rome series,
_The October Horse_, is available in digital e-book form
for both Microsoft Reader and Adobe Reader from Amazon.

Either of the digital versions will cost you $19.99 US.

See http://tinyurl.com/k4y8 for the specifics.

Thus far the older books in the Masters of Rome series
have not been offered as e-books. But perhaps in time
they will be.

-- Marinus

"C.Valerius Publicola" <alexus1978@...> asked:

> It is interesting to me - who is the Novus Romanus?

We are as varied as the leaves laying on the ground in October.

The citizens of Nova Roma come from many different places on
the globe, speak many different languages, and hold a variety
of political, social, and economic opinions. What we share
is an appreciation for Roma Antiqua, respect for the Virtues,
and a desire to share our love of Roma with like minded people
from around the world.

I can tell you about myself, if you like. But that will only
give you information about one Nova Roman. There is huge
variety here, and many interesting people for you to get to
know.

-- Marinus

"C.Valerius Publicola" <alexus1978@...> writes:

> Gaius Valerius Publicola omnibus salutat
>
> I somewhere heard (or read) about Thesaurus Linguae Latinae by Mommsen.
> What is such? Whether there is it at somebody?

There's an Electronic Thesaurus Linguae Latinae online at

http://www.tei-c.org/Applications/apps-el02.html

-- Marinus

C.Publicola vobis salutat.

L. Sicinius Drusus (lsicinius@...) in Re:[Nova-Roma] McCullough's Masters of Rome (My Sarmatian Problem) wrote:


LSD> --- "C.Valerius Publicola" <alexus1978@...> wrote:

>>   C.Publicola omnibus SPD
>>
>> Somebody has links to translation of the modern
>> literature into Latin?
>>
>> I have just read McCullough's Fortune's Favorites in
>> English.
>> Also I have the English copy of the First Man in
>> Rome. I read a Grass Crown in more - less normal
>> Russian translation. Russian translation of the
>> First Man in Rome not simply bad, it is ridiculous
>> to the person having even small representation about
>> the Roman terminology.
>>
>> Despite of it I think Colleen McCullough's Masters
>> of Rome is a best Roman fiction series in the world!
>> It is problem to search for these books in English
>> in the Russian province - wide range is only in the
>> big cities - capitals of areas.
>>
>> It is vain hope to find this series in Internet in
>> an electronic variant?
>>

LSD> Yes it's a vain hope. International law prohibits
LSD> posting copyrighted books on the internet.

Luci Sicini!
The question was just a involuntary display of Russian mentality - love to a halyava!
(in English is probably - freebie)
I hope, that I can get out of this habit and replace its with one of the Roman virtues.
Anything else about Masters of Rome? How about historical discrepancies in these
books?

Vale

mailto:alexus1978@...

Salve,

> I have no desire to put my
> gensmates--especially my fellow
> monarchist Silanus--through that.

That be slanderous talk...and on the ML as well. I
hereby place a formal request before the incumbent
praetor of Nova Roma to hereby place the slanderous
Decius Iunius Palladiu.....Oh damn, you are the
incumbent praetor.

Vale

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Roman citizen and avowed republican.



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Salve Musa,

> Aside from my personal business, I am now in
> provincia Britannia.
> (Specifically Newquay,Corwall) So I wish to give my
> salutations to Propraetor Decimus
> Iunius Silanus and all my fellow citizens here, whom
> I hope to be involved with
> soon enough.

Welcome to our humble province. Might I suggest you
subscribe to our regional e-list at
BritanniaProvincia-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Check out the recent archives for details of our
provincial gathering in October. You will be more than
welcome. It will take place in Bournemouth so if you
leave early enough you can even walk it ;-)

Happy surfing!!!!

Vale

Decimus Iunius Silanus.

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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Decimus Iunius Silanus
<danedwardsuk@y...> wrote:

> Salve,
>
> > I have no desire to put my
> > gensmates--especially my fellow
> > monarchist Silanus--through that.
>
> That be slanderous talk...and on the ML as well.

Might as well brighten the old place up! Pretty drab of late looking
around.

>I
> hereby place a formal request before the incumbent
> praetor of Nova Roma to hereby place the slanderous
> Decius Iunius Palladiu.....Oh damn, you are the
> incumbent praetor.

No doubt you'll keep this in mind for the Kalends of January. ;-)

> Decimus Iunius Silanus
> Roman citizen and avowed republican.

Avowed republican? Deep in your heart you really want to break into
song. Come on now, sing, you KNOW you want to:

"God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!"

You know the rest I'm sure! ;-)

Vale,

Palladius

I just got accepted as citizen of Roma Nova yesterday and so
subscribed to the two lists that were recommended. I am hoping to at
somepoint to become a priestess of Diana, who has been my primary
goddess since I was 14, though I have adored her since I was 12. I am
22, and have a three year old daughter who is being raised in worship
of the gods... I have just moved back to my home of Alaska after four
years in Washington.
I am to a good start and have been starting to adapt my lararium that
I already had in place for the last couple of years, adapting it to
the material that I have read on site.
I am off to a good start (well at least I think so LOL) and look
forward to getting to know everyone here. For sake of convenience
(and time as I have a toddler running around demanding attention) I
shall be posting this message to both lists.

L.Modia Lupa

I know it isn't a popular form of gorvernment but there is much to be
said for Monarchies.
It supposedly goes back to to the ancient Sumeria (modern day Iraq),
I know that isn't actually an argument "FOR" the cause but better to
be honest, lol.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "deciusiunius" <bcatfd@t...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Decimus Iunius Silanus
> <danedwardsuk@y...> wrote:
> > Salve,
> >
> > > I have no desire to put my
> > > gensmates--especially my fellow
> > > monarchist Silanus--through that.
> >
> > That be slanderous talk...and on the ML as well.
>
> Might as well brighten the old place up! Pretty drab of late
looking
> around.
>
> >I
> > hereby place a formal request before the incumbent
> > praetor of Nova Roma to hereby place the slanderous
> > Decius Iunius Palladiu.....Oh damn, you are the
> > incumbent praetor.
>
> No doubt you'll keep this in mind for the Kalends of January. ;-)
>
> > Decimus Iunius Silanus
> > Roman citizen and avowed republican.
>
> Avowed republican? Deep in your heart you really want to break into
> song. Come on now, sing, you KNOW you want to:
>
> "God save our gracious Queen,
> Long live our noble Queen,
> God save the Queen!"
>
> You know the rest I'm sure! ;-)
>
> Vale,
>
> Palladius

L.Modia Lupa writes:

> I just got accepted as citizen of Roma Nova yesterday

Congratulations! And welcome.

-- Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Welcome to Nova Roma daughter of Diana.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "samantha_frye"
<samantha_frye@y...> wrote:

> I just got accepted as citizen of Roma Nova yesterday and so
> subscribed to the two lists that were recommended. I am hoping to

at

> somepoint to become a priestess of Diana, who has been my primary
> goddess since I was 14, though I have adored her since I was 12. I

am

> 22, and have a three year old daughter who is being raised in

worship

> of the gods... I have just moved back to my home of Alaska after

four

> years in Washington.
> I am to a good start and have been starting to adapt my lararium

that

> I already had in place for the last couple of years, adapting it to
> the material that I have read on site.
> I am off to a good start (well at least I think so LOL) and look
> forward to getting to know everyone here. For sake of convenience
> (and time as I have a toddler running around demanding attention) I
> shall be posting this message to both lists.
>
> L.Modia Lupa

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to L. Cornelius Sulla Felix S.P.D.

Good grief! It has always been my belief that the citizens are basically responsible adults and understood that they should not mix modern paganism with the Religio. I cannot imagine that anyone who practices the private rites, has read the information in the religio section, and has conducted private research would ever attempt to water down the rebuilding of the ancient faith. The Pontifex Maximus' posting was very clear to me and I presume most of the citizens. It ill suits you, noble sir, to be so obtuse.
I have just returned from Gettysburg 140th Reenactment. While many of my Confederate foes would love to change the ending, I don't believe any of them would add an inappropriate charge or attack to make Pickett's Charge successful and, thus, ruin the event for everyone else!
Of course, you are free to interpret an email however wildly you want to do so.

Ave F. Galerius,

Its been a long while since this conversation has ended. If you are
going to take the time to respond, especially with venom, please
consider including the post or the relevant sections of the post that
you are responding too. Otherwise, this type of response will just
be ignored.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to L. Cornelius Sulla Felix S.P.D.
>
> Good grief! It has always been my belief that the citizens are
basically responsible adults and understood that they should not mix
modern paganism with the Religio. I cannot imagine that anyone who
practices the private rites, has read the information in the religio
section, and has conducted private research would ever attempt to
water down the rebuilding of the ancient faith. The Pontifex
Maximus' posting was very clear to me and I presume most of the
citizens. It ill suits you, noble sir, to be so obtuse.
> I have just returned from Gettysburg 140th Reenactment. While many
of my Confederate foes would love to change the ending, I don't
believe any of them would add an inappropriate charge or attack to
make Pickett's Charge successful and, thus, ruin the event for
everyone else!
> Of course, you are free to interpret an email however wildly you
want to do so.

Salvete omnes,

The following citizens have expressed interest in participating in our
October gathering :

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Gaia Fabia Livia
Aulus Apollonius Cordus
Lucius Lucillus Catilina
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
Urania Calidia Antonina
Diana Moravia Aventina
Demetreus Moravius Barbaricus
Gaia Flavia Aureliana
Loucetius Gellius Belenus

So far only Aureliana, Silanus and Loucetius have confirmed with me : Can
the others pleasae contact me ASAP so I can arrange hotel reservation.
Our new British citizens are of course most welcome...

Many thanks,
Optime valete
Corn. Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
dic quod facies, fac quod dixisti

The similarity of name with Greek has to be more than coincidence! With Latin would be just a matter of continuity. Has any work improved linking the Etruscan language to anything recognisable? It occurs to me that the Aeneid may well have been based on memories of Etruscan origins and in that case, the Trojan language related to the various Caucasian, which aren't related to anything else (or Basque - somebody always makes a comparison with Basque on the basis that two thoings not related to anything else might as well be related to each other). It would also allow for Charun to become a Greek Kharown without having to imagine unlikely parallel developments.
Sounds something South American about Tuchulcha. Some of the White God speculations take Crete and Phoenicia into account.

-----Original Message-----
From : Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@...>
To : Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date : 15 August 2003 17:39:43
Subject : [Nova-Roma] Re: Etruscan Deities: Tuchulcha/Charun
Not much in the documented works but how is this for starters:

>Charun, demon of death who torments the souls of the deceased in the
>underworld. He also guards the entrance to the underworld. He is
>similar to the Greek Charon. Charun is portrayed with the nose of a
>vulture, pointed ears and is usually winged. His attribute is the
>hammer, with which he finished off his victims.
>Tuchulcha, demoness of the underworld, a horrible, winged creature
>with snake-hair and the beak of a bird.
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

-----Original Message-----
From : Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@...>
Date : 15 August 2003 20:02:56
I know it isn't a popular form of gorvernment but there is much to be

>said for Monarchies.
>It supposedly goes back to to the ancient Sumeria (modern day Iraq),
>I know that isn't actually an argument “FOR“ the cause but better to
>be honest, lol.
>

I reckon this the best argument FOR (as well as that all the most liberal European countries are Monarchies - though not necessarily vice-versa) "The Party can never achieve its aims while the King remains in power", the late unlamented Benito Mussolini (who also once boasted "I made my own laws and broke even them" Empire Strikes back? Yes, but Caligula's.

Uib. Ambrosius Caesariensis.



"To God all things are fair and good and right, but men hold some things
wrong and some right" - Heraclitus




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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Welcome to Nova Roma, L. Modia Lupa!

Vale;

G. Modius Athanasius

In a message dated 8/15/2003 2:58:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, samantha_frye@... writes:

> I just got accepted as citizen of Roma Nova yesterday and so
> subscribed to the two lists that were recommended. I am hoping to at
> somepoint to become a priestess of Diana, who has been my primary
> goddess since I was 14, though I have adored her since I was 12. I am
> 22, and have a three year old daughter who is being raised in worship
> of the gods... I have just moved back to my home of Alaska after four
> years in Washington.
> I am to a good start and have been starting to adapt my lararium that
> I already had in place for the last couple of years, adapting it to
> the material that I have read on site.
> I am off to a good start (well at least I think so LOL) and look
> forward to getting to know everyone here. For sake of convenience
> (and time as I have a toddler running around demanding
> attention) I
> shall be posting this message to both lists.
>
> L.Modia Lupa

Fellow Romans,

I am attempting to track someone down. They are not one of us, but they are an old friend of mine. They live in Britannia.

If anyone in that province can spare a few minutes to assist me, please drop me a line privately. Thankyou

M Flavius Aurelius
m.flavius.aurelius@...
Scribe
Australia Province


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve,
Please add me to the list for the October Gathering. Thank you.

I.A.A.Musa

Salve L. Modia Lupa,

Welcome to Nova Roma. Please don't hesitate to ask any questions you
may have. There is always someone here that has an answer.

Vale bene,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus