LOL< You all kil me!
I hope our new Citizen prospect has a warped sense of humor too.
Marcvs - this one is for you:
Bumper sticker:
Ankh if you love Isis!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes
<praefectus2324@y...> wrote:

> Salve,
> You had me going my lady, I was staring at your post saying to

myself, "Hey I was never initiated!! No fair!

> Marcvs Flavivs Fides
>
> Diana Moravia Aventina <diana@p...> wrote:
> Salve Mr./Ms. X,
>
> >I am having no luck trying to contact someone to join Nova-Roma.

How

> >and where do I take the test to join the org? To whom do I send my
> >answers?
>
> The test/application form is easy. It's the secret rites conducted

during

> your Nova Roma initiation that are difficult. But we can't tell

you what

> happens during the initiation until after you pass the tests.*
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia
>
> *There aren't really any initiation rites or tests, secret or

otherwise.

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> You had me going my lady, I was staring at your post saying to
>myself, "Hey I was never initiated!! No fair!

Not yet.....

;-)

You must be an Eques! Knight.

deciusiunius <bcatfd@...> wrote:--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...> wrote:

> Salvete Omnes;
> has anyone told him of the "gladiatorial combat" test?
> what is it this year tigers?

Didn't we simplify initiation to cash payments to everyone on this
list? :-)


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Hah!
The Tests to get into Nova Roma are the easy ones.

It's the Back Alley tests that get to you.

--- Robert Woolwine <alexious@...> wrote:

> Tigers? Nah...I thought it was mountain lions....
> :) maybe some
> elephants just for show too.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001"
> <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> > Salvete Omnes;
> > has anyone told him of the "gladiatorial
> combat" test?
> > what is it this year tigers?
> > Valete Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica
> >
> > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine"
> <alexious@e...>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com,
> "rjsparks_21212"
> > > <rjsparks_21212@y...> wrote:
> > > > I am having no luck trying to contact someone
> to join Nova-
> Roma.
> > > How
> > > > and where do I take the test to join the org?
> To whom do I
> send
> > my
> > > > answers?
> > >
> > > Ave,
> > >
> > > You could contact the Censors @ censors@n...
> Depending on
> > > when you contacted the individual you might want
> to give enough
> > time
> > > to respond, incase the person might be on
> vacation, given the
> > > summertime and all. If the person was in Europe
> they could have
> > been
> > > attending the European Gathering and might be
> out of their
> country.
> > >
> > > You could also contact other individuals within
> the Gens to see
> if
> > > the Pater/Mater might be unavailable as well.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
>

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LOL!!! Very true, because the only rule in the BA is to leave your
Toga at the door.

If anyone is interested in the Back Alley, just send an email to
BackAlley-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Vale,

Sulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

> Hah!
> The Tests to get into Nova Roma are the easy ones.
>
> It's the Back Alley tests that get to you.
>
> --- Robert Woolwine <alexious@e...> wrote:
> > Tigers? Nah...I thought it was mountain lions....
> > :) maybe some
> > elephants just for show too.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001"
> > <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> > > Salvete Omnes;
> > > has anyone told him of the "gladiatorial
> > combat" test?
> > > what is it this year tigers?
> > > Valete Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica
> > >
> > > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine"
> > <alexious@e...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com,
> > "rjsparks_21212"
> > > > <rjsparks_21212@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I am having no luck trying to contact someone
> > to join Nova-
> > Roma.
> > > > How
> > > > > and where do I take the test to join the org?
> > To whom do I
> > send
> > > my
> > > > > answers?
> > > >
> > > > Ave,
> > > >
> > > > You could contact the Censors @ censors@n...
> > Depending on
> > > > when you contacted the individual you might want
> > to give enough
> > > time
> > > > to respond, incase the person might be on
> > vacation, given the
> > > > summertime and all. If the person was in Europe
> > they could have
> > > been
> > > > attending the European Gathering and might be
> > out of their
> > country.
> > > >
> > > > You could also contact other individuals within
> > the Gens to see
> > if
> > > > the Pater/Mater might be unavailable as well.
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully,
> > > >
> > > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
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>
> Roman Citizen
>
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Salvete,

On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 08:19:13PM +0200, Diana Moravia Aventina wrote:
> Salve Mr./Ms. X,
>
> >I am having no luck trying to contact someone to join Nova-Roma. How
> >and where do I take the test to join the org? To whom do I send my
> >answers?
>
> The test/application form is easy. It's the secret rites conducted during
> your Nova Roma initiation that are difficult. But we can't tell you what
> happens during the initiation until after you pass the tests.*
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia
>
> *There aren't really any initiation rites or tests, secret or otherwise.

Then... what was that thing with the branding irons and the lions
tearing out my liver and eating it (the AC/Delco filter is working just
fine, thank you)? Nova Roma is getting mighty soft on all these
initiates, I've gotta tell _you._


Valete,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
We arrive at the truth being sceptical.
-- Pierre Ab?lard, "Sic et non?"

Your a special case, C. Minucius.

Vale,

Sulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@c...>
wrote:

> Salvete,
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 08:19:13PM +0200, Diana Moravia Aventina

wrote:

> > Salve Mr./Ms. X,
> >
> > >I am having no luck trying to contact someone to join Nova-

Roma. How

> > >and where do I take the test to join the org? To whom do I send

my

> > >answers?
> >
> > The test/application form is easy. It's the secret rites

conducted during

> > your Nova Roma initiation that are difficult. But we can't tell

you what

> > happens during the initiation until after you pass the tests.*
> >
> > Vale,
> > Diana Moravia
> >
> > *There aren't really any initiation rites or tests, secret or

otherwise.

>
> Then... what was that thing with the branding irons and the lions
> tearing out my liver and eating it (the AC/Delco filter is working

just

> fine, thank you)? Nova Roma is getting mighty soft on all these
> initiates, I've gotta tell _you._
>
>
> Valete,
> Caius Minucius Scaevola
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

=-

> Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
> We arrive at the truth being sceptical.
> -- Pierre Ab?lard, "Sic et non?"

Salve Scaevola,

>Then... what was that thing with the branding irons and the lions
>tearing out my liver and eating it ?

That's all? Well since my initiation, I now look like the Venus De Milo. :-)
That woman-eating radiation-poisoned giant kangaroo sure was hungry!

Vale,
Diana

Salve Diana Moravia;
whose turn is it this year to throw the test failers over the
Tarpeian Rock?
Vale Pomponia Fabia


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@p...>
wrote:

>
> Salve Scaevola,
>
> >Then... what was that thing with the branding irons and the lions
> >tearing out my liver and eating it ?
>
> That's all? Well since my initiation, I now look like the Venus De

Milo. :-)

> That woman-eating radiation-poisoned giant kangaroo sure was hungry!
>
> Vale,
> Diana

I am not sure what is all involved in being apart of Nova Roma. It
seems like a great idea but I am not sure where to start after
getting citizenship. I have subcribed to the lists recommended but I
am not sure where to go from there... particularly in concern to the
religio.

L.Modia Lupa

Are you Prometheus?
Oh, wait, that was an eagle eating his liver daily, not a Tiger,
sorry, my bad.

SNIP

> > *There aren't really any initiation rites or tests, secret or

otherwise.

>
> Then... what was that thing with the branding irons and the lions
> tearing out my liver and eating it (the AC/Delco filter is working

just

> fine, thank you)? Nova Roma is getting mighty soft on all these
> initiates, I've gotta tell _you._
>
>
> Valete,
> Caius Minucius Scaevola
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

=-

> Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
> We arrive at the truth being sceptical.
> -- Pierre Ab?lard, "Sic et non?"

The Religio list is experiencing technical difficulties at the moment.
Otherwise, the main list is usually hopping.
Jump right in and get wet, that's the best way to figure out what's
going on and get involved.
You may inadvertantly step on some toes but you learn faster that
way - we get over it and you will learn to also, lol.
Enjoy, it can be a lot of fun and entertaining.
Welcome.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "samantha_frye"
<samantha_frye@y...> wrote:

> I am not sure what is all involved in being apart of Nova Roma. It
> seems like a great idea but I am not sure where to start after
> getting citizenship. I have subcribed to the lists recommended but

I

> am not sure where to go from there... particularly in concern to

the

> religio.
>
> L.Modia Lupa

Salve,
I would sign up for any courses at Academia Thules, especially the
Intro to Nova Roma. Also read the articles on the Religio & see if
your Provincia is having any meetings,
Vale P.Fabia Vera Attica

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
<mballetta@h...> wrote:

> The Religio list is experiencing technical difficulties at the

moment.

> Otherwise, the main list is usually hopping.
> Jump right in and get wet, that's the best way to figure out what's
> going on and get involved.
> You may inadvertantly step on some toes but you learn faster that
> way - we get over it and you will learn to also, lol.
> Enjoy, it can be a lot of fun and entertaining.
> Welcome.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "samantha_frye"
> <samantha_frye@y...> wrote:
> > I am not sure what is all involved in being apart of Nova Roma.

It

> > seems like a great idea but I am not sure where to start after
> > getting citizenship. I have subcribed to the lists recommended

but

> I
> > am not sure where to go from there... particularly in concern to
> the
> > religio.
> >
> > L.Modia Lupa

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "samantha_frye"
<samantha_frye@y...> wrote:

> I am not sure what is all involved in being apart of Nova Roma. It
> seems like a great idea but I am not sure where to start after
> getting citizenship. I have subcribed to the lists recommended but

I

> am not sure where to go from there... particularly in concern to

the

> religio.
>
> L.Modia Lupa

Ave,

You have a very good paterfamilias, my personal advice would be to
contact him and he would probably best be able to find your perfect
fit in Nova Roma.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Salve again She Wolf,
This may help:

One of the questions that constantly comes up comes from new
Citizens. You've applied, waited the agonizing days to hear back from
the Censors, and finally got the email stating you're a Citizen of
Nova Roma. Swelling with pride, your Romanitas is fairly bursting,
and then it hits you...

Now what do I do?

It's a fair question, mostly because Nova Roma is relatively new, and
we're still feeling our way through the answer ourselves! The good
news is, that means that even a new Citizen can have a real impact on
the future of Nova Roma by coming up with new ideas, and putting
together new sorts of things to do. But that's a monumental task, and
sometimes we all need some guidance. That's what this page is for; to
help make Nova Roma a bit easier to experience.

http://www.novaroma.org/newcitizens/

Vale M.A.B.





--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "samantha_frye"
<samantha_frye@y...> wrote:

> I am not sure what is all involved in being apart of Nova Roma. It
> seems like a great idea but I am not sure where to start after
> getting citizenship. I have subcribed to the lists recommended but

I

> am not sure where to go from there... particularly in concern to

the

> religio.
>
> L.Modia Lupa

Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did he
pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a long-time
member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.

And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his entire
Gens disband?

Just a bit curious, having recalled the few times I conversed with
members of your organization in the past.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I appreciate it :)

L.Modia Lupa

Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@...> wrote:
Salve again She Wolf,
This may help:

One of the questions that constantly comes up comes from new
Citizens. You've applied, waited the agonizing days to hear back from
the Censors, and finally got the email stating you're a Citizen of
Nova Roma. Swelling with pride, your Romanitas is fairly bursting,
and then it hits you...

Now what do I do?

It's a fair question, mostly because Nova Roma is relatively new, and
we're still feeling our way through the answer ourselves! The good
news is, that means that even a new Citizen can have a real impact on
the future of Nova Roma by coming up with new ideas, and putting
together new sorts of things to do. But that's a monumental task, and
sometimes we all need some guidance. That's what this page is for; to
help make Nova Roma a bit easier to experience.

http://www.novaroma.org/newcitizens/

Vale M.A.B.





--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "samantha_frye"
<samantha_frye@y...> wrote:

> I am not sure what is all involved in being apart of Nova Roma. It
> seems like a great idea but I am not sure where to start after
> getting citizenship. I have subcribed to the lists recommended but

I

> am not sure where to go from there... particularly in concern to

the

> religio.
>
> L.Modia Lupa

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Salve,
I had to sign off for a while after the ' Ankh if you love Isis thing' . You guys are killing me.
Vale,
P.S. - Keep the volleys coming, the Chattians are on the run!


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Salve Nemo,

> Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did he
> pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a long-time
> member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.

I am entirely unsure about this case... Perhaps Sulla could help you with this....

> And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
> founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his entire
> Gens disband?

Yes. If I have my dates correct, Fl. Vedius Germanicus and Priscilla Vedia Serena resigned their citizenships around April of the consulship of M. Octavius and L. Cornelius. A sad day, indeed. Speaking for myself, I hope to have Fl. Vedius back again sometime.

Vale,

Sp. Postumius Tubertus

Civis Privatus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
<wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:

> Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did he
> pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a long-

time

> member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.

Ave,

Caius Aelius Ericius left Nova Roma in the Ides of March of 2001.

> And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
> founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his entire
> Gens disband?

Yes, Flavius Vedius and just about his entire gens left Nova Roma in
the first quarter of last year.

> Just a bit curious, having recalled the few times I conversed with
> members of your organization in the past.

Its no problem. If you have any other questions please feel free to
ask.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus S.P.D.

On the matter of the last several posts between and about Q. Fabius Maximus and myself, we have corresponded off the list. The personal matter between us stands unresolved at the moment but I hope to have the occasion to settle it at some point in the future when we are in close proximity to each other. I am glad that some citizens found the posts amusing because I know I did for the most part. For those citizens who found the posts disturbing, I sincerely regret your distress. For the interest shown by Palladius, I offer my thanks and good wishes. May the gods grant good fortune and health to the SPQNR now and in the future. Vale.

Ave,

Just a minor correction, Caius Aelius Ericius resigned a couple of
days before the Ides of March, 2001.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
> <wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:
> > Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did

he

> > pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a long-
> time
> > member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.
>
> Ave,
>
> Caius Aelius Ericius left Nova Roma in the Ides of March of 2001.
>
> > And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
> > founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his entire
> > Gens disband?
>
> Yes, Flavius Vedius and just about his entire gens left Nova Roma

in

> the first quarter of last year.
>
> > Just a bit curious, having recalled the few times I conversed

with

> > members of your organization in the past.
>
> Its no problem. If you have any other questions please feel free

to

> ask.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Caius Aelius Ericius Resigned a few days prior to the
mass resignation on the Ides of March. At the time he
resigned he made unsubstanioned charges that his mail
accounts had been hacked and that he was recieving
threats. He refused to present the Praetors with any
names or evidance to back up his charges.

I Beleavehe is currently a member of the SVR.


--- Robert Woolwine <alexious@...> wrote:

> Ave,
>
> Just a minor correction, Caius Aelius Ericius
> resigned a couple of
> days before the Ides of March, 2001.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine"
> <alexious@e...>
> wrote:
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com,
> "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
> > <wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:
> > > Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being
> an old man, did
> he
> > > pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius
> Sulla, being a long-
> > time
> > > member, must remember the man and have some word
> of his status.
> >
> > Ave,
> >
> > Caius Aelius Ericius left Nova Roma in the Ides of
> March of 2001.
> >
> > > And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no
> mention of this
> > > founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did
> Germanicus and his entire
> > > Gens disband?
> >
> > Yes, Flavius Vedius and just about his entire gens
> left Nova Roma
> in
> > the first quarter of last year.
> >
> > > Just a bit curious, having recalled the few
> times I conversed
> with
> > > members of your organization in the past.
> >
> > Its no problem. If you have any other questions
> please feel free
> to
> > ask.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
>

=====
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-----Original Message-----
From : Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@...>
Date : 18 August 2003 15:56:01

The Etruscans were heavily influenced by Greece and the East to my

>knowledge and Charun and Charon do seem to be more than coincidence.
>Tuchulcha does sound eerily familiar when you think of Cuculcahn or
>Quntanaroo.

I've seen Cuculcahn likened to Cuhulainn. Not that the same folk hero is involved but that the name might have come over with and been attributed to, St. Brendan. Thorr Heyerdahl (I think) has mapped the progress of various White Gods and they do give the impression of at least initially one party following the lie of the land not so differently from the way the Spaniards did from Atlantic to Pacific. Brendan's 'currrach' was leather-hulled (a coracle is a little one) and anaconda hide has been used for leather, so some truth in the 'raft of serpents'is possible. As to that it was 'flying': the Aztecs referred to Spanish sails as 'wings'on 'flying houses'. A more southerly White God appears to have been called Votan. Saxons driven very far off course indeed?.

>Who know how much history and traditions were exchanged so long ago
>when it was easy to travel from Europe to America.
>I never heard that about Basque. I slightly familiar with the
>language but not the reference; I'd love to hear more though.
>

Whenever a language doesn't fit anythwere else, somebody makes a play at Basque. There's even suggestion that it is the Cro-Magnon Ursprache before known Europeans got there. I believe there is an oddity that Basques are predominately rhesus-negative where the reverse is true for everybody else. But the Caucasian languages are renowned for their difficulty and lack of affiliation to anything else.

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Salve

> Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did he
> pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a long-time
> member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.

He left and is very much alive. I'm still in relatively regular contact with
him.

> And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
> founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his entire
> Gens disband?

Yes. He and his wife left Nova Roma.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus

Salve Luci Sicini

> Caius Aelius Ericius...
> I Beleavehe is currently a member of the SVR.

I believe otherwise.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, labienus@n... wrote:

> Salve Luci Sicini
>
> > Caius Aelius Ericius...
> > I Beleavehe is currently a member of the SVR.
>
> I believe otherwise.
>
> Vale
> T Labienus Fortunatus

He still is:

Ælia U 1 Caius Ælius Ericius princeps gentis plebeius (private) (
USA / California ) 24 03 2002 (Religio Romana) Minerva, Iuppiter,
Quirinus, Mercurius, Neptunus, Diana, Mars, Venus

http://home.tiscali.be/mauk.haemers/album_sodalium.htm

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Quiritibus Sautem Plurimam Dictit

Tomorrow, the 19th of August (XII KALENDS SEXTILIS) is the Festival of the
Vinalia Rustica.

"This was the second Festival of Wine, following the Vinalia Priota of 23
April. As we have seen, they originally honored Iupiter, but later Venus was
associated with them. It seems the wine of the previous harvest could first
be brought to Rome on 23 April, while on 19 August the ceremonies of the
Vinalia Rustica were designed to gain protection of the growing wines, and
the Flamen Dialis officially announced the vintage (auspicatur vindemoniam),
a practice which continued in Varro's day. The temple of Venus Obsequens
near the Circus Maxmimus was built by Q. Fabius Maximus Gurges out of fines
which he, as curile aedile, has imposed on women convicted of adultery; it
was begun in 295 B.C.E., possibly as a thank-you offering for his father's
victory over the Samites at Setinum that year.

Though not recorded in the Fasti Antiates, which refers to Venere
and not Veneribus, a temple to Venus Libitina was also dedicated on 19
August in the Lucus Libitinae on the Esquiline. This area was the
headquarters of undertakers (libitinarii) where lists of the dead were kept
and funerals arranged. Plutarch speculates on the curious connection; was it
a philosophical device (instituted by Numa) to eliminate the repugnance of
funerals or a reminder that one Goddess presides over births and deaths?
Varro distinguishes between Venus Libitina and Venus Libentina, the Goddess
of sensual pleasure."

(H.H. Scullard, Festivals and Ceremonies of the Roman Republic,1981, 177.)

Bene valete in pace Deorum,

C. Minucius Hadrianus
Minerva Templi Sacerdotes


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--- labienus@... wrote:

> Salve Luci Sicini
>
> > Caius Aelius Ericius...
> > I Beleavehe is currently a member of the SVR.
>
> I believe otherwise.
>
> Vale
> T Labienus Fortunatus
>

He is listed as a member.

http://www.societasviaromana.org/album_sodalium.htm


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Salvete,

He is a member of SVR but you have consulted our old website (we can't remove it because of a provider problem). There is more accurate info on our "new" one (which has actually been there for over a year now :)).

Valete,
Draco
He still is:

Ælia U 1 Caius Ælius Ericius princeps gentis plebeius (private) (
USA / California ) 24 03 2002 (Religio Romana) Minerva, Iuppiter,
Quirinus, Mercurius, Neptunus, Diana, Mars, Venus

http://home.tiscali.be/mauk.haemers/album_sodalium.htm

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


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Salve Luci Corneli

> He still is:

No "still" about it, from my perspective. The last I heard from him on
the subject, which was quite some time ago, was that he was going to
wait a while before deciding whether or not to join. I hadn't known
that he'd finally taken the plunge. We don't generally talk about
either group.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus
--
People who take issue with control of population do not understand that
if it is not done in a graceful way, nature will do it in a brutal fashion.
-Henry Kendall

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:

> Salve Luci Corneli
>
> > He still is:
>
> No "still" about it, from my perspective. The last I heard from

him on

> the subject, which was quite some time ago, was that he was going

to

> wait a while before deciding whether or not to join. I hadn't

known

> that he'd finally taken the plunge. We don't generally talk about
> either group.

Ave Consul,

I can understand that you and him might not discuss either group..but
he has been a member of the SVR for a long long time. Even Draco
posted that the I had bookmarked was an old one. (I dont keep track
of the SVR or any other micronation, for that matter) Even with the
newer link that Senator Lucius Sicinus posted he was still listed as
a member. I just recalled that his name was there when Flavius
Vedius and his wife joined over a year ago, that was the last time I
believe I was at the SVR website.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:06:16PM -0000, Robert Woolwine wrote:

> Your a special case, C. Minucius.

Why, thank you - whatever it is of mine that is supposed to be a special
case; you seem to have omitted the referent as well as the third person
singular of "be". OTOH, if that's just a mispeld version of "You're",
then - grazie, grazie, no more applause. Just send money.


Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Omnia mutantur, nihil interit.
Everything changes, nothing perishes.
-- Ovid, "Metamorphoses"

Salve, Pomponia Fabia -

On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:31:51PM -0000, rory12001 wrote:
> Salve Diana Moravia;
> whose turn is it this year to throw the test failers over the
> Tarpeian Rock?

It certainly can't be Diana's; she's been disarmed.


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Amicus certus in re incerta cernitur.
A friend in need is a friend indeed.
-- Ennius, quoted by Cicero.

Salve, Diana -

On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 09:11:55PM +0200, Diana Moravia Aventina wrote:
>
> Salve Scaevola,
>
> >Then... what was that thing with the branding irons and the lions
> >tearing out my liver and eating it ?
>
> That's all? Well since my initiation, I now look like the Venus De Milo. :-)
> That woman-eating radiation-poisoned giant kangaroo sure was hungry!

Yow! There I was, thinking that was reserved for our Australian cives...

On the other hand (so to speak), I see that the prehensile toe thing has
worked out well for you. What are you up to now, 30, 40WPM? Tippy-toeing
through the touch-typing drills paid off at last! :)


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Dulce bellum inexpertis.
War is sweet for those who haven't experienced it.
-- Pindaros

A group of Nova Britannian citizens gathered yesterday for a
delightful visit to the ancient galleries at Boston's Museum of Fine
Arts. Those present included our noble Praetor, Gaius Minucius
Hadrianus, Anna Minucia Sempronia, Horatia Minucia Caesar and her
consort Tom, Quintus Cassius Calvus, and the two Cassii from Maine.
After surveying the delights of the museum -- wonderful, albeit
insufficiently air-conditioned -- we repaired to the cafeteria for
refreshments and discussion of all things Roman and Nova Roman.

Thank you to Anna Minucia for organizing this! It was delightful to
meet some new friends and renew some acquaintances.


-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@...

Marce Ambrosi Caius Minucius salutem dicit,

On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:44:43PM -0000, Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius wrote:
> Are you Prometheus?
> Oh, wait, that was an eagle eating his liver daily, not a Tiger,
> sorry, my bad.

<grin> I'd started by writing "eagle", but decided that Romans wouldn't
have copied from the Greeks in this, at least. Our songs, our poetry -
OK, but our torture methods - never! I mean, you have to maintain *some*
standards, after all...


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Illi robur et aes triplex circa pectus erat, qui fragilem truci commisit pelago
ratem primus.
As hard as oak and three times bronze was the heart of him who first committed a
fragile vessel to the keeping of wild waves.
-- Horace, "Carmina"

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

> Caius Aelius Ericius Resigned a few days prior to the
> mass resignation on the Ides of March. At the time he
> resigned he made unsubstanioned charges that his mail
> accounts had been hacked and that he was recieving
> threats. He refused to present the Praetors with any
> names or evidance to back up his charges.

I checked the Annals before posting. There is no record of a mass
resignation there! You all should update that thing, lest you all
forget your history (and so that outsiders with an occasional
interest in NR can keep up with the machinations).

Maybe you all can recall this episode for me? The strife and
political maneuvering always was an interesting facet of NR.

Salve iterum,

> I checked the Annals before posting. There is no record of a mass
> resignation there! You all should update that thing, lest you all
> forget your history (and so that outsiders with an occasional
> interest in NR can keep up with the machinations).

Actually, not everything is put in the Annales. And I can find nothing in our legislation requiring that the Annalists do so. It would be quite hard to legislate such a thing, to be quite honest with you about it.

Vale,

Sp. Postumius Tubertus

Civis Privatus

Salvete,

Just wanted to announce that I still haven't heard anything from Yahoo
regarding the Religio Romana list. The list still seems to be locked up.

I sent out several more inquires/requests for help this evening, and
hopefully will hear something from somebody soon. I'll keep posting updates here until
the problem is fixed... :P

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus



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Salvete,

Just a brief further clarification here; the "entire Gens" of Gens
Vedia consisted of Flavius Vedius Germanicus, his wife, and their
newborn daughter. Gens Vedia was from the beginning 'closed' to non-
blood relatives.

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
wrote:

> > And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
> > founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his entire
> > Gens disband?
>
> Yes, Flavius Vedius and just about his entire gens left Nova Roma

in the first quarter of last year.

--- wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl
<wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius
> Drusus"
> <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> > Caius Aelius Ericius Resigned a few days prior to
> the
> > mass resignation on the Ides of March. At the time
> he
> > resigned he made unsubstanioned charges that his
> mail
> > accounts had been hacked and that he was recieving
> > threats. He refused to present the Praetors with
> any
> > names or evidance to back up his charges.
>
> I checked the Annals before posting. There is no
> record of a mass
> resignation there! You all should update that thing,
> lest you all
> forget your history (and so that outsiders with an
> occasional
> interest in NR can keep up with the machinations).
>
> Maybe you all can recall this episode for me? The
> strife and
> political maneuvering always was an interesting
> facet of NR.
>

You will find much of the information in the archives
rather than the annals.

The Episode occured during the endless arguments over
the Gender Name Edict and Lex. Things had gotten
pretty hostile between the supporters and foes of the
Lex. The Nastiness had spread to other areas of
disagreement.

The section of the Archives dealing with Ericus
resignation are missing. He was one of the Foes of the
lex.

A few days after he resigned there was a mass
resignation by people opposed to the Lex on the Ides
of March 2754 AUC (2001 CE) The archives from the mail
list for that date are present if you wish to read
them.

http://www.novaroma.org/forum/mainlist/2001/


=====
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In a message dated 8/18/03 2:08:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
hadrianus@... writes:

> The temple of Venus Obsequens
> near the Circus Maxmimus was built by Q. Fabius Maximus Gurges out of fines
> which he, as curile aedile, has imposed on women convicted of adultery; it
> was begun in 295 B.C.E., possibly as a thank-you offering for his father's
> victory over the Samites at Setinum that year.
>

The battle was Sentinum. It was one of the four most important battles in
the republic's history. Romans should know of its importance.

The coalition of Etruscans, Umbrians, Samnites and Senonian Gauls
assembled a large army near Sentinum in Umbria, under the Samnite
General, Gellius Egnatius. The Roman consul Q. Fabius Rullianus marched
against them, with a consular army (two Roman legiones, two of Socii) but
after a Gallic ambush of one of his Socii, decided the coalition was too strong
for
him. The other consul of the year, Publius Decius Mus was sent to help him.
Together they mustered four Roman Legiones, three of Socii, 1,000 Campanian
heavy cavalry in the addition to the usual heavy cavalry complement, (300 per
legion, 600 per socii), and a number of Latin city state allies making up an
army of 45,000 men.
Fabius had these Latin allies sent off to raid Etruria, the Etruscans and
Umbri were drawn off by this force, leaving the Samnites and Gauls to face the
Romans.
These two alone proved a close match for the Roman army, so likely were
similar in numbers. Livius was sure that the presence of the Etruscans and Umbrians
would have given the coalition the victory.
Rome was facing its greatest challenge since Suessa.
The Gauls were on the allied right, with cavalry on their flank and
chariots in reserve, the Samnites on the left. Fabius faced the
Samnites with legiones I and III, Decius the Gauls with V and VI.
The impatient Decius attacked the Gauls at once, leading the Roman cavalry
charge himself. This broke the Gallic cavalry, but as his men pursued,
following up into some Gallic infantry, they were attacked in turn
and routed by the chariots, who followed the running Roman cavalry
into the ranks of the Roman infantry. Seeing the legionaries disordered,
now the Gallic infantry with their famous screaming charge, pushed the
Romans back, killing many. Decius while trying to rally his fleeing horse
was cut down,
tradition claimed this was a deliberate devotio, a religious sacrifice
whereby Decius
dedicated the enemy with himself to the gods below. Nevertheless the Roman
right wing
was in danger of being beaten.

On the other wing, Fabius deliberately held back from
a decisive attack until the Samnites tired and ran out of missiles,
He then advanced. Since Samnites preferred to skirmish, than fight hand to
hand in unfavorable ground, they were at a disadvantage.
The left wing horse chased off what Samnite cavalry there was,
returned while the infantry was finally fighting, and after rallying,
charged the Samnite infantry flank. This broke the Samnites and they fled
past the Gallic wing to the allied camp.

Fabius knew Decius was in difficulties, he had sent horse
to his colleague's assistance; but now learning of his death,
Fabius sent a despatch to the 500 Campanian pursuing cavalry to return and
take the
Gauls in the rear, with the aid of principes (second line) of the third Roman
legio to
support them. This resulting pressure was too much for the Gauls. Facing
forces from the front and flank and rear, the Gallic battleline fought
desperately, many of the Gauls had broken up their formations, scattered in pursuit;
those that remained were engaged with survivors of Decius' wing and Fabius'
cavalry.
Meanwhile Fabius had stormed the Samnite camp with his four legiones, where
the coalition army commander Gellius Egnatius was killed trying to organize the
defense. Fabius then took the two Roman legiones and hit the Gauls in the
left rear, completing the encirclement. The Gauls died where they stood.

Livius says coalition losses were 25,000 killed and 8,000 taken; most of
these being Gauls, the
Romans lost 7,000 from Decius' army and 1,700 from Fabius'. The Samnites lost
even more as they fell back through the territory of Rome's Paelignian
allies, and were attacked daily in hit and run raids.
This battle broke Gaulic power in the Etruscan area, and ensured the Roman
conquest of both Etruria and Umbria. Had the Romans lost, they would have been
confined to Latinum.

(Livius, History, X.25-29)


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Ave,

Actually there was another person in their gens who was a very close
friend that they admitted into their gens as well. I cant recall the
name of her offhand but she was such a good friend that they
considered her family as well.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Cassius Julianus"
<cassius622@a...> wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Just a brief further clarification here; the "entire Gens" of Gens
> Vedia consisted of Flavius Vedius Germanicus, his wife, and their
> newborn daughter. Gens Vedia was from the beginning 'closed' to non-
> blood relatives.
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
> wrote:
> > > And catch me up on Gens Vedia: why is there no mention of this
> > > founding Gens in the Album Gentium. Did Germanicus and his

entire

> > > Gens disband?
> >
> > Yes, Flavius Vedius and just about his entire gens left Nova Roma
> in the first quarter of last year.

Avete;
instead of remaining in limbo why not start a Relgion Romana II
List
for the durantion?
Vale, P. Fabia Vera Attica

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, cassius622@a... wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Just wanted to announce that I still haven't heard anything from

Yahoo

> regarding the Religio Romana list. The list still seems to be

locked up.

>
> I sent out several more inquires/requests for help this evening,

and

> hopefully will hear something from somebody soon. I'll keep posting

updates here until

> the problem is fixed... :P
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
> Pontifex Maximus
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <alexious@e...>
wrote:

>
>
> Ave Consul,
>
> I can understand that you and him might not discuss either

group..but

> he has been a member of the SVR for a long long time. Even Draco
> posted that the I had bookmarked was an old one. (I dont keep track
> of the SVR or any other micronation, for that matter) Even with

the

> newer link that Senator Lucius Sicinus posted he was still listed

as

> a member. I just recalled that his name was there when Flavius
> Vedius and his wife joined over a year ago, that was the last time

I

> believe I was at the SVR website.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Since you have invited me to ask more questions, I do have one
obvious one. What is this SVR organization? I have gone to that
webpage and it appears to be a Roman micronation like NR. This is a
bit ironic: it seems that Rome, having been born of twins, has now
given birth unto twins. Do you all ever get together and have flame-
wars, or rattle your sabres at each other? It could be fun!

I'm checking the site out now, and it appears to have little
activity, and none by Ericius.

Valete

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, labienus@n... wrote:

> Salve
>
> > Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did

he

> > pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a long-

time

> > member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.
>
> He left and is very much alive. I'm still in relatively regular

contact with

> him.

Regular contact? Then, although its been years since I was in his
Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has yielded
an email address for him.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Sp. Postumius Tubertus"
<postumius@g...> wrote:

> Salve iterum,
>
> > I checked the Annals before posting. There is no record of a mass
> > resignation there! You all should update that thing, lest you all
> > forget your history (and so that outsiders with an occasional
> > interest in NR can keep up with the machinations).
>
> Actually, not everything is put in the Annales. And I can find

nothing in our legislation requiring that the Annalists do so. It
would be quite hard to legislate such a thing, to be quite honest
with you about it.

Possibly more annalists could be hired? Bureaucracy seldom needs to
be told to grow itself further. NR has become a model of governmental
restraint, I guess. But this stuff is interesting, especially to
newcomers and outsiders interested in keeping up to speed on NR's
progress. Mass defections, how could that not be interesting? What
caused it?

RUSTICUS!!!!!!! OH MY G-d.....WOW....its great to see you here....its
been such a long time!!!!!

Oh the memories...this brings back! LOL

Ok...off to the BA to post!

Vale,

Sulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
<wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, labienus@n... wrote:
> > Salve
> >
> > > Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did
> he
> > > pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a

long-

> time
> > > member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.
> >
> > He left and is very much alive. I'm still in relatively regular
> contact with
> > him.
>
> Regular contact? Then, although its been years since I was in his
> Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has yielded
> an email address for him.

Salve Rustice

> Regular contact? Then, although its been years since I was in his
> Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has yielded
> an email address for him.

I'll do that. Would you like me to pass along your address?

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus
--
People who take issue with control of population do not understand that
if it is not done in a graceful way, nature will do it in a brutal fashion.
-Henry Kendall

Salvete Omnes,

I am pleased to announce on behalf of the Collegium Pontificum that Gaia
Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla has been accepted as the new Chief Vestal of Nova
Roma! This particular appointment has been a long time coming, and should be seen
as a sign of renewed divine favor for Nova Roma itself.

As Chief Vestal, Gaia Iulia Victorinilla will be responsible for keeping the
sacred flame to Vesta on behalf of the state and Citizens of Rome, as well as
working toward building a complete College of Vestals within Nova Roma. I have
every confidence that she will carry out this responsibility with great
success, and ask that the Citizens of Nova Roma join me in welcoming our new
Vestal!

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus


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As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the nominations of the new Chief Vestal of Nova Roma.

I recognize Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as Chief Vestal, and
welcome her presence with a candle lit on Vesta's hearth.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the hearth of
Vesta, and grant Gaia Iulia guidance and wisdom for the positive
furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

(Welcome, Victorinilla! Your service does honor to us all!)


-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@...

T Labienus Fortunatus Lictor Omnibus SPD

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge the
appointment of Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as the Chief Vestal of
Nova Roma.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua guide her in her duties, and
may she be diligent in performing them. I thank her for volunteering to
serve the Res Publica in such a vital role.

Valete

In a message dated 8/18/03 6:40:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@... writes:

> Then, although its been years since I was in his
> Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has yielded
> an email address for him.
>

Rusticus, you old SOG. Where have you been?

Fabius


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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

>
> --- Annia Minucia Sempronia <ciarin@a...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Actually, I've found these to be rather funny. A lot
> > better than the
> > insults you tend to come up with.
> >
>
> Most likely because what you deem to be "insults" are
> typically statements of fact that don't attempt to
> spare the feelings of the overly sensitive rather than
> attempts to be cute.
>
>
>

So "elitist shithead" is a statement of fact, and NOT and insult?

right......

-Annia Minucia Sempronia

word of the day is: hypocrit

I guess yahoo fixed it.

....till the next time it fails....



-Annia Minucia Sempronia

--- Annia Minucia Sempronia <ciarin@...>
wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius
> Drusus"
> <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> >
> > --- Annia Minucia Sempronia <ciarin@a...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually, I've found these to be rather funny. A
> lot
> > > better than the
> > > insults you tend to come up with.
> > >
> >
> > Most likely because what you deem to be "insults"
> are
> > typically statements of fact that don't attempt to
> > spare the feelings of the overly sensitive rather
> than
> > attempts to be cute.
> >
> >
> >
>
> So "elitist shithead" is a statement of fact, and
> NOT and insult?
>
> right......
>
> -Annia Minucia Sempronia
>
> word of the day is: hypocrit
>

Yes the term was apt for your attempt to talkdown to
myself and Corvus on the Religio list.

If you don't wish to be refered to as an "elitist
shithead" then don't attempt to use that patronizing
attitude you adopted on that list.


=====
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Roman Citizen

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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
<wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, labienus@n... wrote:
> > Salve
> >
> > > Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man, did
> he
> > > pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a

long-

> time
> > > member, must remember the man and have some word of his status.
> >
> > He left and is very much alive. I'm still in relatively regular
> contact with
> > him.
>
> Regular contact? Then, although its been years since I was in his
> Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has yielded
> an email address for him.

Rusticus? Good Gods man, why didn't you introduce yourself when you
first entered the forum? A few of us remember you from the early days
of Nova Roma. Welcome back. Are you staying or just visiting some of
your old haunts?

Decius Iunius Palladius

Salvete,

>I am pleased to announce on behalf of the Collegium Pontificum that Gaia
>Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla has been accepted as the new Chief
>Vestal of Nova Roma!

Hey this is great news! Congratulations Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla.
We're counting on you !

<This particular appointment has been a long time coming, and

>should be seen
>as a sign of renewed divine favor for Nova Roma itself.

I certainly hope so.

Valete,
Diana Moravia

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Ostia Antica: Harbour City of Ancient Rome":

http://www.ostia-antica.org/

The site is maintained by a group of historians and archaeologists,
the Internet Group Ostia, and is extremely well organised, very
informative, and beautifully displayed.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salve F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus,

< I am glad that some citizens found the posts amusing because I know I did
for the most

>part. For those citizens who found the posts disturbing, I
>sincerely regret your distress.

Nah, neither post was disturbing at all, at least not to me. I just thought
that the two of you were being a bit sarcastic-- nothing more. We've all
seen (and said :-p) worse things in our Forum. Plus how could anyone get
distressed over green beans? They're are rather benign little vegetables
totally unlike their cousins the kidney bean or the black bean or any other
bean that goes into Mexican food...

Vale,
Diana Moravia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

>
> --- Annia Minucia Sempronia <ciarin@a...>
> wrote:
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius
> > Drusus"
> > <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- Annia Minucia Sempronia <ciarin@a...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I've found these to be rather funny. A
> > lot
> > > > better than the
> > > > insults you tend to come up with.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Most likely because what you deem to be "insults"
> > are
> > > typically statements of fact that don't attempt to
> > > spare the feelings of the overly sensitive rather
> > than
> > > attempts to be cute.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > So "elitist shithead" is a statement of fact, and
> > NOT and insult?
> >
> > right......
> >
> > -Annia Minucia Sempronia
> >
> > word of the day is: hypocrit
> >
>
> Yes the term was apt for your attempt to talkdown to
> myself and Corvus on the Religio list.
>
> If you don't wish to be refered to as an "elitist
> shithead" then don't attempt to use that patronizing
> attitude you adopted on that list.
>
>

I wasn't talking down to anyone, it was a joke.

And, yes, you were insulting, no matter how much you try to justify
it.

-Annia Minucia Sempronia

Salve Pomponia Fabia,

> whose turn is it this year to throw the test failers over the
>Tarpeian Rock?

The Tribunes have this month. Unfortunately since my initiation I have to
nudge them with my nose over the Rock. :-) With all the squirming about,
that is not an easy feat I can tell you ;-))

Salve Scaevola,

<On the other hand (so to speak), I see that the prehensile toe thing has
<worked out well for you. What are you up to now, 30, 40WPM? Tippy-toeing
<through the touch-typing drills paid off at last! :)

Toes? No way! I type with my Roman nose like a woodpecker motion down pat!
(see above as well)

Valete,
Diana

Salve!

>Since you have invited me to ask more questions, I do have one
>obvious one. What is this SVR organization? I have gone to that
>webpage and it appears to be a Roman micronation like NR.

It's a simple story really. I guess you've read by now that when someone
fails the NR tests and initiation, they are thrown from the Tarpeian rock.
Well.... Sometime in August 2001, the numerous failed citizens of Nova Roma
residing in the deep pit beneath the Rock began to call themselves the SVR.*

Vale,
Diana Moravia

*In case anyone doubts, none of the above is true. (The Office of the
Tribunes is a bit quiet for the last few days and so this Tribune is getting
giddy).

Salvete:

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge the
acclamation of the new Chief Vestal of Nova Roma.

I recognize Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as Chief Vestal, and
welcome her presence with a libation at my family altar.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the hearth of
Vesta, and grant Gaia Iulia guidance and wisdom for the positive
furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon Nova
Roma, Her Citizens and their elected & conscripted magistrates in this
coming year.

In Amicus sub fidelis - Stephanus Ullerius Piperbarbus Venator, Lictor
et Cives

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "deciusiunius" <bcatfd@t...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
> <wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, labienus@n... wrote:
> > > Salve
> > >
> > > > Caius Aelius Ericius. Did he leave NR, or being an old man,

did

> > he
> > > > pass away? I know at least that L. Cornelius Sulla, being a
> long-
> > time
> > > > member, must remember the man and have some word of his

status.

> > >
> > > He left and is very much alive. I'm still in relatively

regular

> > contact with
> > > him.
> >
> > Regular contact? Then, although its been years since I was in his
> > Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has

yielded

> > an email address for him.
>
>
> Rusticus? Good Gods man, why didn't you introduce yourself when you
> first entered the forum? A few of us remember you from the early

days

> of Nova Roma. Welcome back. Are you staying or just visiting some

of

> your old haunts?
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius

In retrospect, Palladius, maybe I should have. But my first thought
was to catch up on events in NR; and in doing this, I noted that my
former paterfamilias was missing, so I came to the forums with that
question foremost in my mind. It's good to see that a few of the old
forum-goers, the Triarii in the legions of NR, as it were, do indeed
remember me. It's also good to see the new names: a sign that NR has
been growing. I hope to come by more often now, since I have recently
acquired a great deal of free time to pursue my old interests in
Latin and Roman history.

Cn. Rusticus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:

>
> > Then, although its been years since I was in his
> > Gens, tell him Rusticus inquired of him. No other place has

yielded

> > an email address for him.
> >
>
> Rusticus, you old SOG. Where have you been?
>
> Fabius

Ah, well, Fabius... Being acquainted with Hollywood, you might
recognize the old hackneyed plot: boy studies hard, graduates
college; boy gets job, works hard; boy gets caught in economic
slowdown, terminated. So now I am just chilling on my couch with the
classified ads in one hand and a Latin grammar in the other. Hahah.

Cn. Rusticus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Fortunatus <labienus@n...> wrote:

> Salve Rustice
>
>
> I'll do that. Would you like me to pass along your address?
>
> Vale
> T Labienus Fortunatus

Salve, Labiene Fortunate,

Thank you. Yes, by all means, if he wishes to reply.

Cn. Rusticus

Salvete Rustice et Diana,

>Since you have invited me to ask more questions, I do have one
>obvious one. What is this SVR organization? I have gone to that
>webpage and it appears to be a Roman micronation like NR.

<< It's a simple story really. I guess you've read by now that when someone
fails the NR tests and initiation, they are thrown from the Tarpeian rock.
Well.... Sometime in August 2001, the numerous failed citizens of Nova Roma
residing in the deep pit beneath the Rock began to call themselves the SVR.* >>

Things are looking good here from the Underworld's Elysium, thank you very much :-D. Oh, and you want some work, right? Well now that I'm a Plebeian again, I invite any Patrician to harrass me so the Tribuni may come to my rescue, poor wretched creature that I am.

Rustice, to answer your question: SVR is not a micronation. It's in our FAQ :).

Valete bene!
Draco


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In a message dated 8/19/03 2:21:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@... writes:

> So now I am just chilling on my couch with the
> classified ads in one hand and a Latin grammar in the other. Hahah.
>

I'm sorry to hear about that, nevertheless it is good to have you back here.
Hopefully you
will stay around for a bit.

Fabius


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In a message dated 8/19/03 3:25:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
scorpioinvictus@... writes:

> It's a simple story really. I guess you've read by now that when someone
> fails the NR tests and initiation, they are thrown from the Tarpeian rock.
> Well.... Sometime in August 2001, the numerous failed citizens of Nova
> Roma
> residing in the deep pit beneath the Rock began to call themselves the
> SVR.

And this is how legends are started. Interesting that Gn Rusticus thought of
the brothers splitting off to find two Romes. I have thought the same.
People leave Nova Roma when things do not work out to their expectations. The SVR
is one such ending place. There are others.

Q. Fabius Maximus
Resticus


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On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> Here's a link to "Ostia Antica: Harbour City of Ancient Rome":
>
> http://www.ostia-antica.org/

Thank you, Scaurus! Cassius and I were very fortunate to have the
chance to explore Ostia in person last spring, and found it one of the
highlights of our trip -- an easy train ride from Rome, and a
delightful place to spend a day. We definitely plan to return!


-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@...

Salve,

Great site with wonderful pictures of grafitti. Thanks!

Vale,
Annia Octavia Indagatrix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@w...>
wrote:

> G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.
>
> Avete, Quirites.
>
> Here's a link to "Ostia Antica: Harbour City of Ancient Rome":
>
> http://www.ostia-antica.org/
>
> The site is maintained by a group of historians and archaeologists,
> the Internet Group Ostia, and is extremely well organised, very
> informative, and beautifully displayed.
>
> Valete, Quirites.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus

"Elitist s**thead" is a vulgar term that a gentleman regardless of rank should never use. Next time you might want to try "elitist fecal encephalic" instead. It shows that you can deliver the very best "honesty" (i.e., base insult) in a stylish, intelligent manner. Of course, this is merely a personal opinion.

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:

> Salve!
>
> >Since you have invited me to ask more questions, I do have one
> >obvious one. What is this SVR organization? I have gone to that
> >webpage and it appears to be a Roman micronation like NR.
>
> It's a simple story really. I guess you've read by now that when

someone

> fails the NR tests and initiation, they are thrown from the

Tarpeian rock.

> Well.... Sometime in August 2001, the numerous failed citizens of

Nova Roma

> residing in the deep pit beneath the Rock began to call themselves

the SVR.*

Well, let's not be too harsh on them, Diana. Having taken those
initiation tests twice, I for one can vouch that they are no small
feat to pass. I have heard that the tests have been watered down, so
let me tell you how hard they used to be in 1998 back when I was a
young'un.

I was bewildered when Cassius asked me the first question, "What is
your favorite color, Rustice?" Sheesh. I had been expecting multiple
choice! After some soul-searching, I chose to respond, "Plaid." It
went to the judges, since no one could figure out if Plaid counted as
just one color. They voted and I narrowly passed. Whew. Then came the
dreaded, "How do you tie your shoe?" Now this question on the quiz is
rightly regarded as the Pons Asinorum, the part that separates the
viri from the pueri. Fortunately, I had velcro straps on my shoes.
Ha! By the time the third and final question was asked, I was just a
giant sweaty mess of trembling nerves, so when he asked, "What is the
drag coefficient of mercury at 303.15 kelvins, assuming normal
atmospheric pressure?" I was understandably relieved: everyone knows
that one!

So, I feel for them. It occurs to me now that my old paterfamilias
may be over there, so perhaps he can whip them into shape.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:

>
> Salve Scaevola,
>
> <On the other hand (so to speak), I see that the prehensile toe

thing has

> <worked out well for you. What are you up to now, 30, 40WPM? Tippy-

toeing

> <through the touch-typing drills paid off at last! :)
>
> Toes? No way! I type with my Roman nose like a woodpecker motion

down pat!

> (see above as well)
>
> Valete,
> Diana

Excellent. It swells my heart to see that Romans are still practicing
the ancient and noble custom of mutilating themselves for the greater
good of Rome. This puts me in mind of the very first Scaevola, who
plunged his right hand into a fiery brazier rather than betray his
city to Lars Porsenna. Inspiring, isn't it! So inspiring, in fact,
that in order to honor the old Roman virtues one day, I myself sought
to duplicate this act of fierce determination. The only modification
in my case was that I thrust my right hand into a brassiere instead
of a brazier, a small detail you'll agree--and since the bra in
question was being worn by Rosie O'Donnell, such was a fate that many
men would have burnt off their right hands to avoid anyway. And it
was all for the glory of Rome!

So, carry on. You do us all proud.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/19/03 2:21:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y... writes:
>
> I'm sorry to hear about that, nevertheless it is good to have you

back here.

> Hopefully you
> will stay around for a bit.
>
> Fabius

Not too big a deal, Fabius. I'm not in a tight situation just yet.
Thanks though. I'll be around.

Diplomatic and amusing; a man with the common touch, far from
disturbing, definately entertaining.
Thanks for the reality check, I hope you get your chance to resolve
the situation.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus S.P.D.
>
> On the matter of the last several posts between and about Q. Fabius
Maximus and myself, we have corresponded off the list. The personal
matter between us stands unresolved at the moment but I hope to have
the occasion to settle it at some point in the future when we are in
close proximity to each other. I am glad that some citizens found
the posts amusing because I know I did for the most part. For those
citizens who found the posts disturbing, I sincerely regret your
distress. For the interest shown by Palladius, I offer my thanks and
good wishes. May the gods grant good fortune and health to the SPQNR
now and in the future. Vale.

Cool.
I always thought Basque to be a combination of French, Spanish
Portugese.
I have a love of most foreign languages and had the good fortune to
study more than a few. I do particularly like Portugese for some
strange reason (I think it was a combination of the song Lambada and
the Maccao thing, lol) but I have never heard spoken Basque - I hope
to one day.
Thanks for your thoughts on the subject cher cousin.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, me-in-@d... wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From : Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@h...>
> Date : 18 August 2003 15:56:01
>
> The Etruscans were heavily influenced by Greece and the East to my
> >knowledge and Charun and Charon do seem to be more than
coincidence.
> >Tuchulcha does sound eerily familiar when you think of Cuculcahn
or
> >Quntanaroo.
>
> I've seen Cuculcahn likened to Cuhulainn. Not that the same folk
hero is involved but that the name might have come over with and been
attributed to, St. Brendan. Thorr Heyerdahl (I think) has mapped the
progress of various White Gods and they do give the impression of at
least initially one party following the lie of the land not so
differently from the way the Spaniards did from Atlantic to Pacific.
Brendan's 'currrach' was leather-hulled (a coracle is a little one)
and anaconda hide has been used for leather, so some truth in
the 'raft of serpents'is possible. As to that it was 'flying': the
Aztecs referred to Spanish sails as 'wings'on 'flying houses'. A more
southerly White God appears to have been called Votan. Saxons driven
very far off course indeed?.
>
> >Who know how much history and traditions were exchanged so long
ago
> >when it was easy to travel from Europe to America.
> >I never heard that about Basque. I slightly familiar with the
> >language but not the reference; I'd love to hear more though.
> >
> Whenever a language doesn't fit anythwere else, somebody makes a
play at Basque. There's even suggestion that it is the Cro-Magnon
Ursprache before known Europeans got there. I believe there is an
oddity that Basques are predominately rhesus-negative where the
reverse is true for everybody else. But the Caucasian languages are
renowned for their difficulty and lack of affiliation to anything
else.
>
> Uib. Ambrosius Caesariensis.
>
>
> --
> Personalised email by http://another.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salute Amice,
I'm glad to see we were of the same thought.
Warpped minds tend to think alike, lol.
Vale


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@c...>
wrote:

> Marce Ambrosi Caius Minucius salutem dicit,
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:44:43PM -0000, Marcus Ambrosius

Belisarius wrote:

> > Are you Prometheus?
> > Oh, wait, that was an eagle eating his liver daily, not a Tiger,
> > sorry, my bad.
>
> <grin> I'd started by writing "eagle", but decided that Romans

wouldn't

> have copied from the Greeks in this, at least. Our songs, our

poetry -

> OK, but our torture methods - never! I mean, you have to maintain

*some*

> standards, after all...
>
>
> Vale,
> Caius Minucius Scaevola
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

=-

> Illi robur et aes triplex circa pectus erat, qui fragilem truci

commisit pelago

> ratem primus.
> As hard as oak and three times bronze was the heart of him who

first committed a

> fragile vessel to the keeping of wild waves.
> -- Horace, "Carmina"

May Great Fortune pass to all, what fantastic news!
Blessings and success.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, cassius622@a... wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am pleased to announce on behalf of the Collegium Pontificum that
Gaia
> Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla has been accepted as the new Chief
Vestal of Nova
> Roma! This particular appointment has been a long time coming, and
should be seen
> as a sign of renewed divine favor for Nova Roma itself.
>
> As Chief Vestal, Gaia Iulia Victorinilla will be responsible for
keeping the
> sacred flame to Vesta on behalf of the state and Citizens of Rome,
as well as
> working toward building a complete College of Vestals within Nova
Roma. I have
> every confidence that she will carry out this responsibility with
great
> success, and ask that the Citizens of Nova Roma join me in
welcoming our new
> Vestal!
>
> Valete,
>
> Marcus Cassius Julianus
> Pontifex Maximus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete,

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge the nomination of Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as the new Chief Vestal of Nova Roma.

Valete,
Marcus Martianus Gangalius
Lictor et Legatus

M A R T I A N A
Contendere, explorare, invenire, et non cedere.

Lictor L Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritibus SPD

As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge the
appointment of Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as the Chief Vestal of
Nova Roma.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua guide her in her duties, and
may she be diligent in performing them. I thank her for volunteering to
serve the Res Publica in such a vital role.

Valete


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My Dear F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus,
You really have to tone it down before I bust a stitch laughing!
My co-workers are passing by every so often to check out the latest
and my giggling fits let them know when your latest installments
arrive.
You have quite a gathering of fans here on the East Coast.
Without me personally taking sides, it didn't take them long to read
between the lines and recognize truth from "phallicy", lol.
There should be some new application submitted for citizenship.
You have unwittedly become a recruiter for NR.
Thank you personally for the witty, educated fun.
Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> "Elitist s**thead" is a vulgar term that a gentleman regardless of
rank should never use. Next time you might want to try "elitist
fecal encephalic" instead. It shows that you can deliver the very
best "honesty" (i.e., base insult) in a stylish, intelligent manner.
Of course, this is merely a personal opinion.
>
> F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus

Oh My Gods!
Talk about your faux pas!
You poor thing!
LOL, excellent play on words, loved it!



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
<wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> <diana@p...> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Scaevola,
> >
> > <On the other hand (so to speak), I see that the prehensile toe
> thing has
> > <worked out well for you. What are you up to now, 30, 40WPM?

Tippy-

> toeing
> > <through the touch-typing drills paid off at last! :)
> >
> > Toes? No way! I type with my Roman nose like a woodpecker motion
> down pat!
> > (see above as well)
> >
> > Valete,
> > Diana
>
> Excellent. It swells my heart to see that Romans are still

practicing

> the ancient and noble custom of mutilating themselves for the

greater

> good of Rome. This puts me in mind of the very first Scaevola, who
> plunged his right hand into a fiery brazier rather than betray his
> city to Lars Porsenna. Inspiring, isn't it! So inspiring, in fact,
> that in order to honor the old Roman virtues one day, I myself

sought

> to duplicate this act of fierce determination. The only

modification

> in my case was that I thrust my right hand into a brassiere instead
> of a brazier, a small detail you'll agree--and since the bra in
> question was being worn by Rosie O'Donnell, such was a fate that

many

> men would have burnt off their right hands to avoid anyway. And it
> was all for the glory of Rome!
>
> So, carry on. You do us all proud.

Avete Omnes,
I got to check out that 3D pan-around reconstruction of a Mithraeum a coupla
weeks ago as a part of my research. Thanks for the helpful tip (I suggest
anybody with an interest in this cult check it out:
<http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/archive/index.html> )

Based on what I have put together, I have decided the Mobile Mithraeum
project will not be feasible for Burning Man. In the interrim, I did a lot
of research on this fascinating Eastern Cult. I got as far as constructing
a Phrygian bonnet (thanks again Jullila Sempronia Magna!), I downloaded and
tried to decipher the "Paris Liturgy" which seems to have little bearing on
Mithraism as I currently understand it, and built the armature for a papier
mache bull. I realized given time and money constraints, (mostly time) the
best I could do would come across as a feeble parody. I was planning on
performing a kind of mock taurobolium, but research indicates that most real
Mithraeae (?) were too small to accomodate a real bull and therefore the
practice might not have been a part of the rites of this faith. I also
wanted to construct some animal masks apropriate to some of the grades of
this mystery religion but time was against me.
I am more intrigued than ever about this religion and have picked up Franz
Cumont's Mysteries of Mithra and David Ulansey's Origins of the Mithraic
Mysteries. The former is pretty much the most cited authoritative work on
the subject, while the latter is a recent work of cosmic rethinking. I want
to learn more. What started as a conceptual/performance art piece for the
benefit of interested parties has deepened my fascination for this lost
religion.
If anybody on this list has an interest in Mithraism or any leads for
further information than my simple google searches have brought up (Mithra,
Mithras, tauroboleum, dadophori, Sol Invictus) I would be interested in
communicating, sharing opinions and finding out more.

Like a Raven flying to Sun-baked Bread, I come seeking knowledge.

So Deo Invicto, I have failed you, but I intend to fulfill my end of the
contract...

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Salve Domina Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla, Virgo
Vestalis Maxima! May Vesta Mater and the Dii
Immortales be ever propitious to you in this great and
respectful undertaking for not only Vesta, but for the
preservation of all of Nova Roma and Romanitas!!!
WELCOME! Vale! Frater Gaivs Ivlivs Ivlianvs, Flamen
Florealis, Senior Paterfamilias Gentis Iuliae.

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Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@...> wrote:Oh My Gods!
Talk about your faux pas!
You poor thing!
LOL, excellent play on words, loved it!



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
<wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> <diana@p...> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Scaevola,
> >
> > <On the other hand (so to speak), I see that the prehensile toe
> thing has
> > <worked out well for you. What are you up to now, 30, 40WPM?

Tippy-

> toeing
> > <through the touch-typing drills paid off at last! :)
> >
> > Toes? No way! I type with my Roman nose like a woodpecker motion
> down pat!
> > (see above as well)
> >
> > Valete,
> > Diana
>
> Excellent. It swells my heart to see that Romans are still

practicing

> the ancient and noble custom of mutilating themselves for the

greater

> good of Rome. This puts me in mind of the very first Scaevola, who
> plunged his right hand into a fiery brazier rather than betray his
> city to Lars Porsenna. Inspiring, isn't it! So inspiring, in fact,
> that in order to honor the old Roman virtues one day, I myself

sought

> to duplicate this act of fierce determination. The only

modification

> in my case was that I thrust my right hand into a brassiere instead
> of a brazier, a small detail you'll agree--and since the bra in
> question was being worn by Rosie O'Donnell, such was a fate that

many

> men would have burnt off their right hands to avoid anyway. And it
> was all for the glory of Rome!
>
> So, carry on. You do us all proud.

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As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the appointment of Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as the Chief Vestal
of Nova Roma.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua guide her in her duties,
and may she be diligent in performing them. I thank her for
volunteering to serve the Res Publica in such a vital role.



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As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the appointment of Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as the Chief Vestal
of Nova Roma.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua guide her in her duties,
and may she be diligent in performing them. I thank her for
volunteering to serve the Res Publica in such a vital role.



=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!

CN·SALIX·ASTVR·T·F·A·NEP·TRIB·OVF
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As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the appointment of Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as the Chief Vestal
of Nova Roma.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua guide her in her duties,
and may she be diligent in performing them. I thank her for
volunteering to serve the Res Publica in such a vital role.

=====
Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!

CN·SALIX·ASTVR·T·F·A·NEP·TRIB·OVF
PRAETOR·ET·SENATOR
TRIVMVIR·ACADEMIAE
LICTOR·CVRIATVS

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Quirites: ihurmvt!
in humo volvens ridensque magna voce felesque terrens.

rolling on the floor with laughter scaring the cats!

(Gratias Gn. Rustico et Q. Claudiae Lutentiae Apricae)
P. Fabia Vera Attice


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes <praefectus2324@y...>
wrote:

> I love you guys!
>
> Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@h...> wrote:Oh My Gods!
> Talk about your faux pas!
> You poor thing!
> LOL, excellent play on words, loved it!
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl"
> <wyrd_oft_nareth_onfaege_eorl@y...> wrote:
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> > <diana@p...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Salve Scaevola,
> > >
> > > <On the other hand (so to speak), I see that the prehensile toe
> > thing has
> > > <worked out well for you. What are you up to now, 30, 40WPM?
> Tippy-
> > toeing
> > > <through the touch-typing drills paid off at last! :)
> > >
> > > Toes? No way! I type with my Roman nose like a woodpecker

motion

> > down pat!
> > > (see above as well)
> > >
> > > Valete,
> > > Diana
> >
> > Excellent. It swells my heart to see that Romans are still
> practicing
> > the ancient and noble custom of mutilating themselves for the
> greater
> > good of Rome. This puts me in mind of the very first Scaevola,

who

> > plunged his right hand into a fiery brazier rather than betray

his

> > city to Lars Porsenna. Inspiring, isn't it! So inspiring, in

fact,

> > that in order to honor the old Roman virtues one day, I myself
> sought
> > to duplicate this act of fierce determination. The only
> modification
> > in my case was that I thrust my right hand into a brassiere

instead

> > of a brazier, a small detail you'll agree--and since the bra in
> > question was being worn by Rosie O'Donnell, such was a fate that
> many
> > men would have burnt off their right hands to avoid anyway. And

it

> > was all for the glory of Rome!
> >
> > So, carry on. You do us all proud.
>
>
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MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS QVINTO FABIO MAXIMO S.P.D.

AVE QVINTE,

The stuff of legends indeed, ROMVLVS ET REMVS ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I was not with NR when this schism occurred but I can't help feeling
a little saddened at the fact that these ROMANI left NOVA ROMA.

Is there no rapproachement for NR and SVR? Surely we should seek to
unite all ROMANI wherever they may be. Perhaps I'm being naive or
idealistic but shouldn't we actively seek to bring as many ROMANI
under the citizenship of the RES PVBLICA?

VALE


M. CALIDIVS GRACCHVS

TVVS IN SODILICIO RES PVBLICA ROMANAE

"TERRARVM DEA GENTIVMQVE ROMA CVI PAR EST NIHIL ET NIHIL SECVNDVM"


"VERITAS LVX MEA"

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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/19/03 3:25:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> scorpioinvictus@h... writes:
>
>
> > It's a simple story really. I guess you've read by now that when
someone
> > fails the NR tests and initiation, they are thrown from the
Tarpeian rock.
> > Well.... Sometime in August 2001, the numerous failed citizens
of Nova
> > Roma
> > residing in the deep pit beneath the Rock began to call
themselves the
> > SVR.
>
> And this is how legends are started. Interesting that Gn Rusticus
thought of
> the brothers splitting off to find two Romes. I have thought the
same.
> People leave Nova Roma when things do not work out to their
expectations. The SVR
> is one such ending place. There are others.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
> Resticus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Avete M. Calidius et Omnes,

Some of them are back in Nova Roma. Just like some of the members of
Nova Roma joined the SVR as well. In addition to this there are also
a number people who are in the SVR but not in NR.

Its not a matter of reproachment, there are other issues involved
that each individual must reconcile amongst themselves. If that
cannot be accomplished then that is an issue he/she must decide for
themselves.

However, if you want to get informed you can always read up on the
archieves. They have quite a bit of Nova Roman history over the past
5 years.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS"
<cybernaut911@y...> wrote:

> MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS QVINTO FABIO MAXIMO S.P.D.
>
> AVE QVINTE,
>
> The stuff of legends indeed, ROMVLVS ET REMVS ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
> I was not with NR when this schism occurred but I can't help

feeling

> a little saddened at the fact that these ROMANI left NOVA ROMA.
>
> Is there no rapproachement for NR and SVR? Surely we should seek

to

> unite all ROMANI wherever they may be. Perhaps I'm being naive or
> idealistic but shouldn't we actively seek to bring as many ROMANI
> under the citizenship of the RES PVBLICA?
>
> VALE
>
>
> M. CALIDIVS GRACCHVS
>
> TVVS IN SODILICIO RES PVBLICA ROMANAE
>
> "TERRARVM DEA GENTIVMQVE ROMA CVI PAR EST NIHIL ET NIHIL SECVNDVM"
>
>
> "VERITAS LVX MEA"
>
> nr_africa_septentrionalis@yahoogroups.com
> http://www.geocities.com/africa_septentrionalis/index.html
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 8/19/03 3:25:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > scorpioinvictus@h... writes:
> >
> >
> > > It's a simple story really. I guess you've read by now that

when

> someone
> > > fails the NR tests and initiation, they are thrown from the
> Tarpeian rock.
> > > Well.... Sometime in August 2001, the numerous failed

citizens

> of Nova
> > > Roma
> > > residing in the deep pit beneath the Rock began to call
> themselves the
> > > SVR.
> >
> > And this is how legends are started. Interesting that Gn

Rusticus

> thought of
> > the brothers splitting off to find two Romes. I have thought the
> same.
> > People leave Nova Roma when things do not work out to their
> expectations. The SVR
> > is one such ending place. There are others.
> >
> > Q. Fabius Maximus
> > Resticus
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete omnes,As a lictor of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby witness and acknowledge
the nominations of the new Chief Vestal of Nova Roma.

I recognize Gaia Iulia Caesaria Victorinilla as Chief Vestal, and
welcome her presence with a candle lit on Vesta's hearth.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the hearth of
Vesta, and grant Gaia Iulia guidance and wisdom for the positive
furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.




Valete bene, TiAnO



Tiberius Annaeus Otho (TiAnO) Factio Praesina
Lictor curiatus
Translator linguae Germanicae
Paterfamilias gentis Annaearum
Praefectus scribarum regionis Germaniae Superioris
Tribunus laticlavius militum legionis XI CPF
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I always thought 'Basque' meant to get lots of sun...oh, well!
Marcvs Flavivs Fides

Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@...> wrote:
Cool.
I always thought Basque to be a combination of French, Spanish
Portugese.
I have a love of most foreign languages and had the good fortune to
study more than a few. I do particularly like Portugese for some
strange reason (I think it was a combination of the song Lambada and
the Maccao thing, lol) but I have never heard spoken Basque - I hope
to one day.
Thanks for your thoughts on the subject cher cousin.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, me-in-@d... wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From : Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius <mballetta@h...>
> Date : 18 August 2003 15:56:01
>
> The Etruscans were heavily influenced by Greece and the East to my
> >knowledge and Charun and Charon do seem to be more than
coincidence.
> >Tuchulcha does sound eerily familiar when you think of Cuculcahn
or
> >Quntanaroo.
>
> I've seen Cuculcahn likened to Cuhulainn. Not that the same folk
hero is involved but that the name might have come over with and been
attributed to, St. Brendan. Thorr Heyerdahl (I think) has mapped the
progress of various White Gods and they do give the impression of at
least initially one party following the lie of the land not so
differently from the way the Spaniards did from Atlantic to Pacific.
Brendan's 'currrach' was leather-hulled (a coracle is a little one)
and anaconda hide has been used for leather, so some truth in
the 'raft of serpents'is possible. As to that it was 'flying': the
Aztecs referred to Spanish sails as 'wings'on 'flying houses'. A more
southerly White God appears to have been called Votan. Saxons driven
very far off course indeed?.
>
> >Who know how much history and traditions were exchanged so long
ago
> >when it was easy to travel from Europe to America.
> >I never heard that about Basque. I slightly familiar with the
> >language but not the reference; I'd love to hear more though.
> >
> Whenever a language doesn't fit anythwere else, somebody makes a
play at Basque. There's even suggestion that it is the Cro-Magnon
Ursprache before known Europeans got there. I believe there is an
oddity that Basques are predominately rhesus-negative where the
reverse is true for everybody else. But the Caucasian languages are
renowned for their difficulty and lack of affiliation to anything
else.
>
> Uib. Ambrosius Caesariensis.
>
>
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