Salve

Try the Latin Law Library

http://rome.webzone.ru/ius/library/

Or

Roman Law

http://www.jura.uni-sb.de/Rechtsgeschichte/Ius.Romanum/english.html


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman state law links?


C.Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam

Is here somebody having links to the Internet resources concerning the Roman state law?
By the way, concerning coffee... It is really impossible, that ancient Romans tried this wonder-working drink?
I mean - a very rare wonder Egiptian medicine...

Valete

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G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "The Cartographic Context of the Madaba Map":

http://198.62.75.1/www1/ofm/mad/articles/HarweyMaps.html

This site is an article by Paul D.A. Harwey, originally published in
_The Madaba Map Centenary, 1897-1997_ (Jerusalem, 19990 103-107, uses
a mid-sixth-century CE mosaic map found at Madaba as the basis for a
brilliant deconstruction of the history of Roman cartographic
technology.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

G. Iulius Scaurus C.Valerio Publicolae salutem dicit.

Salve, C. Valeri.

> Is here somebody having links to the Internet resources concerning

the Roman state law?

I posted a lengthy bibliography on Roman criminal law to the Yahoo
Nova_Rovman_Laws lists a few weeks ago. I have a largish collection
of links to Roman-law related sites, but it will take me a day or two
to find the time to list them here.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Hello, all:

I'm new to your group. Albeit not a Roman Reconstructionist, or even
a Witch whom honours the pantheon of Roman Gods, I do respect Them,
as I do all The Gods. I happenb to be a Celtic Witch- although you
would call me a Wiccan, and you would not be incorrect, I prefer the
appelation of "Witch" to "Wiccan". (I shall post a more formal
Introduction in just a few moments.) However, I would like to
further research The Roman Gods, Themselves, in books which are very
well researched, and analized/discussed by scholars. Specifically
those whom correspond to the 7 planets, and 7 days of the week: Mars,
Venus (both of whom I hear were origionally Vegitation Gods, which I
would love to further investigate), Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Luna
(whom they identified with the Saxon Moon God, Mona, I hear, and
would like to research this, as well), and....still researching this,
but...any sun deities they may have identified with any other sun
deities whom have given us our word for Sunday, such as (for example)
Sunne and Sunna.

Best of Wishes,
Wade MacMorrighan

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POLL QUESTION: Salve Romans

I started to research the idea of
a "Citizenship" ring last fall and
stopped when someone else posted to
the ML and seemed further along and
ready to go.

I will now pick up my research with a
few questions.

I would buy a NR "Citizenship Ring"
if ...

Vale
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

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Salve Scaurus,

after reading your mail, I'm contacting prof. Marina Silvestrini to
receive more information and check if Nova Roma could collaborate
with her.
I live in Bari and it could be easy to have further informations.
I'll inform you.

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@w...>
wrote:

> G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.
>
> Avete, Quirites.
>
> Here a link to "Anfore Bridisine [The Bridisine Amphorae]":
>
> http://www.dscc.uniba.it/Anfore/Index.htm
>
> This site, created by Mrina Silvestrini (Univ. of Bari) and Paola
> Palazzo (Univ. of Tscia, Viterbo), provides a detailed catalogue of
> republican-period amphorae from the Ager Brundisinus and their

seals,

> the latter organised onomastically. It is an excellent resource

for

> the study of the diversity of the local economy. The site in in
> Italian, but may be read in English via Altavista's Babelfish

machine

> translation facility (with the usual caveats about the

shortcomings of

> machine translation) at http://world.altavista.com/.
>
> Valete, Quirites.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus

Salvete Omnes,

the official announcement of the next Ludi Victoriae coming soon.
I can anticipate you that the winners of each contest and event will
receive a price.
Prepare yourself.

Valete
Fr.Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile

Salve, fellow,

Caesar is a controversian person. I every time tend to be inclined a
one version or other according the last written historian, good
Caesar, bad Caesar. Anyway I do celebrate the ides of March in home.
I think we never we will get what the ´real Caesar´ was, maybe too
complex to answer. As Napoleon said, ´History is the version of the
past you want to believe´, you must choose bad/good Caesar version
you like more.

De qualquer forma, a resposta a César neste forum nos idos de março
foi... hum... decepcionante, ainda que com um pouco de Plutarco para
animar...

Vale,
L. Arminius Faustus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Galerius Peregrinator"
<gaiusgalerius@h...> wrote:

> Salvete:
>
> I just finished reading an interesting book just recently

published,

> The Assassination of Julius Caesar by Michael Parenti. In his

book, Parenti

> surveys the social conditions of the common roman, your average

Aulus, which

> constituted the vast majority of the Romans and in that background

surveys a

> list of reformers and he places Julius Caesar as the last in that

list of

> reformers who were assassinated and slandered.
>
> I came out of this book liking Caesar a lot more than I did

before,

> specially that I had just read a book on Alexander who was

incredibly

> vindictive and brutal. In fact, that seems to have been the norm

in the

> ancient world and Caesar seems to be an exception in that regard as

he

> showed magnanimity in victory and did not persecute his ennemies

and tried

> to make friends of them instead. And if you are an admirer of

Cicero,

> you're in for a shock
>
> It is a small book that could be read in one sitting. Here is

an

> excerpt from the blurb in the back cover:
>
> "Most historians, both ancient and modern, have viewed the late

Republic

> of Rome through the eyes of its rich nobility. They regard Roman

commoners

> as a parasitic mob, a rabble only interested in bread and

circuses. They

> cast Caesar, who took up the popular cause, as a despot and

demagogue, and

> treat his murder as the outcome of a personal feud or

constitutional

> struggle, devoid of social content. In The Assassination of Julius

Caesar,

> the distinguished author Michael Parenti subjects these assertions

of

> "gentlemen historians" to a bracing critique, and presents us with

a

> compelling story of popular resistance against power and wealth...."
>
> Here is an excerpt from the book itself:
>
> "The "mobs" of eighteenth- and nineteenth - century England and

France

> are described by the upper class critics of those times as composed

of

> beggars, convicts, and other lowlife detritus. But records reveal

that

> rebel crowds consisted of farm laborers, masons, and various other

kinds of

> craftsmen, along with shopkeepers, wine merchants, cooks, porters,

domestic

> servants, miners, and urban laborers, almost all of fixed abode,

some

> temporarily unemployed, only a handful of whom were vagrants or had

criminal

> records." And these, the Roman mob, are really what Parenti

writes about,

> the people and those who championed their cause, Caesar being the

most

> prominent.
>
>
> And here is something which I did not know nor expect:
>
> "Today in modern Rome, amidst the ruins of the forum there

stands the

> temple of Julius Caesar, reputedly built upon the very site where

his

> earthly remains had been burned. Indeed, it seems centrally

situated in the

> forum, just where Caesar's body would most likely have been

placed. The

> temple is a modest one story structure composed of the dark narrow

bricks

> that were the common building material of the Republic public

edifices.

> (Rome did not become a city of marbles until Augustus). It is said

that the

> ashes of Caesar pyre still rest somewhere beneath the structure.

To this

> day, every year on 15 March, numerous bouquets of flowers are left

at the

> temple entrance by persons unknown."
>
>
> I know that here in this forum there are many people who are
> diametrically opposed to Parenti's conclusions, and it would be

interesting

> to hear their arguments. I am no expert and I am still learning.
>
> Valete
>
> G. Galerius Peregrinator.
>
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Salve Gai Galeri,

> And here is something which I did not know nor
> expect:
>
> "Today in modern Rome, amidst the ruins of the
> forum there stands the
> temple of Julius Caesar, reputedly built upon the
> very site where his
> earthly remains had been burned.

I have been to this temple in the forum, a small
discreet red-brick affair but rather centrally
located. The structure does have an eiree feel to it
and there were indeed flowers there when I visited. I
have no idea how much of the history of this temple is
based on legend rather than fact but it was certainly
memorable for me.

Infact the entire forum is one of the most amazing
places I have ever visited (I have been twice now) and
I would highly recommend it to anyone with even a
cursory interest in history, Roman or otherwise.

Vale

Decimus Iunius Silanus

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IVRO

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García), Romanam religionem favere et defendere

IVRO

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ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid
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=====
SP. ÆLIVS BÆTICVS MAL.

Maybe using popular fiction as a primary source isn't the best thing, but I am partial to Caesar's portrail in Colleen McCullough's "Masters of Rome" novels. Not really good or bad, but above our concepts of good or
bad to a truly frightening degree.

"Lucius Arminius Faustus" <lafaustus@...> wrote:

> Salve, fellow,
>
>Caesar is a controversian person. I every time tend to be inclined a
>one version or other according the last written historian, good
>Caesar, bad Caesar. Anyway I do celebrate the ides of March in home.
>I think we never we will get what the ´real Caesar´ was, maybe too
>complex to answer. As Napoleon said, ´History is the version of the
>past you want to believe´, you must choose bad/good Caesar version
>you like more.
>
>De qualquer forma, a resposta a César neste forum nos idos de março
>foi... hum... decepcionante, ainda que com um pouco de Plutarco para
>animar...
>
>Vale,
>L. Arminius Faustus
>
>
>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, quot;Gaius Galerius Peregrinatorquot;
>lt;gaiusgalerius@h...gt; wrote:
>gt; Salvete:
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I just finished reading an interestingnbsp; book just recently
>published,
>gt; The Assassination of Julius Caesar by Michael Parenti.nbsp; In his
>book, Parenti
>gt; surveys the social conditions of the common roman, your average
>Aulus, which
>gt; constituted the vast majority of the Romans and in that background
>surveys a
>gt; list of reformersnbsp; and he places Julius Caesar as the last in that
>list of
>gt; reformers who were assassinated and slandered.
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I came out of this book liking Caesar a lot more than I did
>before,
>gt; specially that I had just read a book on Alexander who was
>incredibly
>gt; vindictive and brutal.nbsp; In fact, that seems to have been the norm
>in the
>gt; ancient world and Caesar seems to be an exception in that regard as
>he
>gt; showed magnanimity in victory and did not persecute his ennemies
>and tried
>gt; to make friends of them instead.nbsp; And if you are an admirer of
>Cicero,
>gt; you're in for a shock
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; It is a small book that could be read in one sitting.nbsp;nbsp; Here is
>an
>gt; excerpt from the blurb in the back cover:
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; quot;Most historians, both ancient and modern, have viewed the late
>Republic
>gt; of Rome through the eyes of its rich nobility.nbsp; They regard Roman
>commoners
>gt; as a parasitic mob, a rabble only interested in bread and
>circuses.nbsp; They
>gt; cast Caesar, who took up the popular cause, as a despot and
>demagogue, and
>gt; treat his murder as the outcome of a personal feud or
>constitutional
>gt; struggle, devoid of social content.nbsp; In The Assassination of Julius
>Caesar,
>gt; the distinguished author Michael Parenti subjects these assertions
>of
>gt; quot;gentlemen historiansquot; to a bracing critique, and presents us with
>a
>gt; compelling story of popular resistance against power and wealth....quot;
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Here is an excerpt from the book itself:
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; quot;The quot;mobsquot; of eighteenth- and nineteenth - century England and
>France
>gt; are described by the upper class critics of those times as composed
>of
>gt; beggars, convicts, and other lowlife detritus.nbsp; But records reveal
>that
>gt; rebel crowds consisted of farm laborers, masons, and various other
>kinds of
>gt; craftsmen, along with shopkeepers, wine merchants, cooks,nbsp; porters,
>domestic
>gt; servants, miners, and urban laborers, almost all of fixed abode,
>some
>gt; temporarily unemployed, only a handful of whom were vagrants or had
>criminal
>gt; records.quot;nbsp;nbsp; And these, the Roman mob,nbsp; are really what Parenti
>writes about,
>gt; the people and those who championed their cause, Caesar being the
>most
>gt; prominent.
>gt;
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; And here is something which I did not know nor expect:
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; quot;Today in modern Rome, amidst the ruins of the forum there
>stands the
>gt; temple of Julius Caesar,nbsp; reputedly built upon the very site where
>his
>gt; earthly remains had been burned.nbsp; Indeed, it seems centrally
>situated in the
>gt; forum, just where Caesar's body would most likely have been
>placed.nbsp; The
>gt; temple is a modest one story structure composed of the dark narrow
>bricks
>gt; that were the common building materialnbsp; of the Republic public
>edifices.nbsp;
>gt; (Rome did not become a city of marbles until Augustus).nbsp; It is said
>that the
>gt; ashes of Caesar pyre still rest somewhere beneath the structure.nbsp;
>To this
>gt; day, every year on 15 March, numerous bouquets of flowers are left
>at the
>gt; temple entrance by persons unknown.quot;
>gt;
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I know that here in this forum there are many people who are
>gt; diametrically opposed to Parenti's conclusions, and it would be
>interesting
>gt; to hear their arguments.nbsp; I am no expert and I am still learning.
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Valete
>gt;
>gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; G. Galerius Peregrinator.
>gt;
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G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here is a link to "The Tabula Peutingeriana and the Madaba Map":

http://198.62.75.1/www1/ofm/mad/articles/WeberPeutingeriana.html

Thie article by Ekkehard Weber, originally published in _The Madaba
Map Centenary, 1897-1997_ (Jerusalem 1999) 41-46, compares the Madaba
Map to the Tabula Peutingeriana, a late-12th/early-13th-century copy
of an itinerarium with origins in an Augustan period exemplar (with at
least one Hadrianic recension of which the phrase "antea dicta
H(i)erusalem, nunc Aelia Capitolina" is an indication), delineating
the different cartographic sources from which they emerged.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salve

--- Decimus Iunius Silanus <danedwardsuk@...>
escreveu: > Salve Gai Galeri,

>
> > And here is something which I did not know nor
> > expect:
> >
> > "Today in modern Rome, amidst the ruins of the
> > forum there stands the
> > temple of Julius Caesar, reputedly built upon the
> > very site where his
> > earthly remains had been burned.
>
> I have been to this temple in the forum, a small
> discreet red-brick affair but rather centrally
> located. The structure does have an eiree feel to it
> and there were indeed flowers there when I visited.
> I have no idea how much of the history of this
> temple is based on legend rather than fact but it
> was certainly memorable for me.

[..]

> Vale
> Decimus Iunius Silanus

I was at the Forum in oct/98, and looked inside the
small structure of the altar of Caesar. There was some
flowers inside, and then a women added another flower.
I was amazed; at that moment i thought that Caesar was
not only remembered but admired and, perhaps, loved.

Vale
M.Arminius

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Salvete,

Caesar is neither the evil slayer of the Republic nor
the virtuious defender of the lower classes that many
wish to make him out to be. He was an unusualy gifted
man who was sweep along by forces that were out of his
control or anyone elses.

The Republic was dying, and would have died at about
the same time if Caesar had never been born. The Roman
Governmental structures that evolved to administer a
city state were cracking under the strain of running
an empire.

As the wealth that could be gained from a term
governing a province increased larger and larger sums
were being spent in efforts to gain the office of
Praetor and Consul, and failure to be elected no
longer just ment a carrer as a "backbencher" in the
Senate, it now ment finicial ruin.

Many Romans began to aquire a taste for autocratic
rule after governing a province as a king in all but
name, and this taste stayed with them after thier
return to Rome.

The Roman government had lost control of it's army,
and this was never reestablished even during the
Empire when there was allways a danger that a General
would march his legions towards Roma.

Before Caesar donned the Toga of an adult things had
allready reached the point that political struggles
were a matter of life and death.

The Republic was in need of a major reorganization
before Caesar achived his first public office, but the
political situation insured that any attempt at this
reqoganization would result in a civil war.

If Caesar had never lived or if he was only known to
us as another Catalina who failed a war between
another Anthony and another Octavian still would have
broken out sooner or later that would have seen the
destruction of the Republic.

--- Lucius Arminius Faustus <lafaustus@...>
wrote:

> Salve, fellow,
>
> Caesar is a controversian person. I every time tend
> to be inclined a
> one version or other according the last written
> historian, good
> Caesar, bad Caesar. Anyway I do celebrate the ides
> of March in home.
> I think we never we will get what the �real Caesar�
> was, maybe too
> complex to answer. As Napoleon said, �History is the
> version of the
> past you want to believe�, you must choose bad/good
> Caesar version
> you like more.
>
> De qualquer forma, a resposta a C�sar neste forum
> nos idos de mar�o
> foi... hum... decepcionante, ainda que com um pouco
> de Plutarco para
> animar...
>
> Vale,
> L. Arminius Faustus
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Galerius
> Peregrinator"
> <gaiusgalerius@h...> wrote:
> > Salvete:
> >
> > I just finished reading an interesting book
> just recently
> published,
> > The Assassination of Julius Caesar by Michael
> Parenti. In his
> book, Parenti
> > surveys the social conditions of the common roman,
> your average
> Aulus, which
> > constituted the vast majority of the Romans and in
> that background
> surveys a
> > list of reformers and he places Julius Caesar as
> the last in that
> list of
> > reformers who were assassinated and slandered.
> >
> > I came out of this book liking Caesar a lot
> more than I did
> before,
> > specially that I had just read a book on Alexander
> who was
> incredibly
> > vindictive and brutal. In fact, that seems to
> have been the norm
> in the
> > ancient world and Caesar seems to be an exception
> in that regard as
> he
> > showed magnanimity in victory and did not
> persecute his ennemies
> and tried
> > to make friends of them instead. And if you are
> an admirer of
> Cicero,
> > you're in for a shock
> >
> > It is a small book that could be read in one
> sitting. Here is
> an
> > excerpt from the blurb in the back cover:
> >
> > "Most historians, both ancient and modern,
> have viewed the late
> Republic
> > of Rome through the eyes of its rich nobility.
> They regard Roman
> commoners
> > as a parasitic mob, a rabble only interested in
> bread and
> circuses. They
> > cast Caesar, who took up the popular cause, as a
> despot and
> demagogue, and
> > treat his murder as the outcome of a personal feud
> or
> constitutional
> > struggle, devoid of social content. In The
> Assassination of Julius
> Caesar,
> > the distinguished author Michael Parenti subjects
> these assertions
> of
> > "gentlemen historians" to a bracing critique, and
> presents us with
> a
> > compelling story of popular resistance against
> power and wealth...."
> >
> > Here is an excerpt from the book itself:
> >
> > "The "mobs" of eighteenth- and nineteenth -
> century England and
> France
> > are described by the upper class critics of those
> times as composed
> of
> > beggars, convicts, and other lowlife detritus.
> But records reveal
> that
> > rebel crowds consisted of farm laborers, masons,
> and various other
> kinds of
> > craftsmen, along with shopkeepers, wine merchants,
> cooks, porters,
> domestic
> > servants, miners, and urban laborers, almost all
> of fixed abode,
> some
> > temporarily unemployed, only a handful of whom
> were vagrants or had
> criminal
> > records." And these, the Roman mob, are really
> what Parenti
> writes about,
> > the people and those who championed their cause,
> Caesar being the
> most
> > prominent.
> >
> >
> > And here is something which I did not know nor
> expect:
> >
> > "Today in modern Rome, amidst the ruins of the
> forum there
> stands the
> > temple of Julius Caesar, reputedly built upon the
> very site where
> his
> > earthly remains had been burned. Indeed, it seems
> centrally
> situated in the
> > forum, just where Caesar's body would most likely
> have been
> placed. The
> > temple is a modest one story structure composed of
> the dark narrow
> bricks
> > that were the common building material of the
> Republic public
> edifices.
> > (Rome did not become a city of marbles until
> Augustus). It is said
> that the
> > ashes of Caesar pyre still rest somewhere beneath
> the structure.
> To this
> > day, every year on 15 March, numerous bouquets of
> flowers are left
> at the
> > temple entrance by persons unknown."
> >
> >
> > I know that here in this forum there are many
> people who are
> > diametrically opposed to Parenti's conclusions,
> and it would be
> interesting
> > to hear their arguments. I am no expert and I am
> still learning.
> >
> > Valete
> >
> > G. Galerius Peregrinator.
> >
> >
>

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Salvete Omnes,

the next Ludi Romani are very close and we start to celebrate the
glory of Rome from 5th to 19th.
The Ludi Romani will be organized by my Cohors Aedilis and we hope
to offer you exciting events.

The first event is the usual Ludi Circenses. I post you the rules,
the same of the last tournament and invite you to partecipe in
several. The deadline to subscribe them is 6th September and you
have to send a message to sacro_barese_impero@...

In Ludi Romani there is another good reason to play: the prices.
We'll offer to the winners little prices, little statue and
sestertii.
We hope you'll appreciate it.

And now the rules! The subscriptions are open!!

ROMANI LUDI CIRCENSES 2003

+ Rules +

Nova Roma organize "Romani Ludi Circenses", chariot races during the
Ludi Romani from 5th to 19th April, in recollection of the roman
customs of amusement and entertainment. In these games only there
take part the citizens registered in Nova Roma who want to do it
according to the following rules exposed below.

1) How to take part?
1.1) Every player have to send our subscription to
sacro_barese_impero@... [Fr. Apulus Caesar] with the
subject "Ludi Circensis", within the following informations:
• His/her name in Nova Roma
• The name of his/her driver
• The name of his/her chariot
• His/her tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals (see point 2)
• His/her tactics for the Finals (see point 2)
• The name of his/her "factio" or team (green, red, blue or white)
• The macronational address

1.2) The subscriptions must be sent before 6th september 2003 (time
of Rome).
1.3) Every player only will send one chariot.

2) Tactics
Six (6) race tactics are possible:
• To hurry in the last laps
• To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus.
• To support a constant pace
• To lash the rivals
• To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
• To hurry in the straight lines

2.1) Each player have the possibility to change his/her tactics if
he/she runs in the Final. He/she can send a tactics for the Quarter
and Semifinals and a tactics for the Final race.

3) Dirty actions
A citizen can try the assassination of the driver of a rival factio
or the sabotage of his/her chariot.

3.1) Assassination of the driver of a rival factio
The player must say to what factio he attacks. The chance is 30 %.
If the attempt is uncovered, the killer player is fined but his/her
chariot can take part in the race. If the attempt has success, the
player with the murdered driver can not take part in the race. Of
course, the killer isn´t uncovered.

3.2) Sabotage of a chariot
The player must say to what factio he attacks. The chance is 45 %.
If the attempt is uncovered, the killer player is fined and his/her
chariot can´t take part in the race. If the attemp t has success,
the player with the broken chariot WILL SUFFER AN ACCIDENT in the
race. Of course, the saboteur isn´t uncovered. If a player reaches
three fines. He/she will be reminded publicly in the forum and
he/she will not take part in the following Ludi.


3) How it will be the competition?
The competition is for elimination (quarter, semi-finals and final).
Every race will take 4 participants.
In the Quarter there is one player as every factio, the first two
players continue running, the last two are eliminated.
In the Semifinals there are the winners of the Quarter, the first
players run to the Final.
In the Final the 4 best players runs, the first is the Winner.

4) How the races will be?
4.1. ACCIDENTS.
Before doing the calculations of a race, the editor determine who
has an accident. For it, he roll one dice 0-100 for every chariot.
The resultant number will be its percentage of accident.
• The drivers with tactics 1 will have 0 to 15 percentage of
accident always. 0 to 25 if there are one or more drivers with
tactics 4 or 5.
• The drivers with tactics 2 will have 0 to 20 percentage of
accident always. 0 to 35 if there are one or more drivers with
tactics 4 or 5.
• The drivers with tactics 3 will have 0 to 10 percentage always.
• The drivers with tactics 4 will have 0 to 15 percentage always. 0
to 25 if there are other drivers with tactics 4.
• The drivers with tactics 5 will have 0 to 15 always. 0 to 25 if
there are other drivers with tactics 5.
• The drivers with tactics 6 will have 0 to 5 percentage always. 0
to 20 if there are other drivers with tactics 4 or 5.

4.2) CALCULATION OF THE RACES.
After determining which chariots (if any) have been eliminated from
a race due to an accident, the editor must calculate the order in
which the remaining teams finished the race.
The editor will roll one dice 0-10 for every player. This will be
the Value of Race (VR) of every car.
To know the final position of a chariot in the race the VR of every
player is divided by the sum of all the VR and the result is
multiplied by 50. This way we have its Chance to Win (CW).
For example, if there is a race with 4 chariots with these VR:
6,5,4,2 then the first chariot, with the VR 6, would have the
following Chance to to Win: 6/17 (17 is the sum of 6+5+4+2) x 50 =
17.6 (rounding, 18). The CW of the first chariot will be 18 points.
The second chariot, with VR 5, would have 5/17x50 = 14.7 (rounding,
15), therefore its CW is 15 points.

The tactics modify the CW of the following way:
Tactics 1) +6 points.
Tactics 2) +8 points.
Tactics 3) No points. The tactics 4 and 5 do not affect it.
Tactics 4) +2 points. The tactics 5 do not affect it.
Tactics 5) +2 points. The tactics 4 do not affect it.
Tactics 6) +4 points.

Assign each team a specific range of numbers out of a series of 100
that is equal to the team's Chance to Win. Assign these team ranges
consecutively. In our sample race, for example, Chariot 1's range
(with tactics 2) would be 01 through 25 (18+7). Chariot 2's range
(with tactics 4) would be 26 through 40.

The final step for the Editor is to roll a dice 0-100 to determine
the order of finish. The chariot within whose range the first dice 0-
100 roll falls is the team that finishes the race in first place.
The chariot within whose range the second dice 0-100 roll falls is
the team that finishes the race in second place. The chariot within
whose range the third D100 roll falls is the chariot that finishes
the race in third place. And so on. Once a chariot's position has
been determined, ignore subsequent rolls that fall within its range
and roll again.
In our sample race, the first die roll result is 25. This makes
chariot 2 (Range 26-40) the first place winner.

5) Time schedule
Announcement Ludi Circenses: 1st september
Opening subscription: 2nd september
Deadline: 6th september
Quarters: 10th september
Semifinals: 14th september
Final: 18th september

6) Winners
The Winner of the Final will be the Winner of the Ludi Circensis and
will publish on the Ludi Romani Website
http://aediles.novaroma.org/ludicircenses.htm and in the Main
Mailing List of Nova Roma.
He will win a special price of 5 Nova Roman Sestertii.
There will other races during the Ludi of the 2756. The best 4
runners of the year will run in the Final Chariot Race MAXIMI LUDI
CIRCENSES.

Informations:
- Cohors Aedilis F. Apulus Caesar Website:
http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/ludi/ludicricenses.htm
- Scriba Aedilis Gnaeus Salix Galaicus: piteas@...

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Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile

Ave Iovine,

many congratulations amice. I missed you and the Consul in Rome (I was there
the very next day you left sigh!) but had a nice walking with the Finnish.
vale

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Salvete Omnes,
during the long Romni Ludi from 5th to 19th September we'll try to
offer you several "interactive" events having an active
partecipation of the Nova Romans.

The second contest we offer you is the usual ROMANI CULTURAL
CONTEST, a literary award about the Glory of Rome, the Roman
victories in all the fields, etc.
The works partecipating have to celebrate the Eternal City and his
importance in the Occidental World too.

The subscription is open, the deadline is at 10th September and the
winner will be judged by a experienced Jury.
You must to send the texts at sacro_barese_impero@....
The winner will be announced at 15th September during the Ludi.
The winner author will win a little price, a little statue of a
vexillifer.

Enjoy the cultural contest and read the rules.


ROMANI CULTURAL CONTEST 2003

+ Regulations +


1) The literary award, "The Ludi Romani Cultural Award" (LVCA) is
supported by Nova Roma and organized by the Cohors Aedilis of Senior
Curule Aedile Franciscus Apulus Caesar. It is open to all the
citizens of Nova Roma. The task of the contest is to write a text
(poetry or novel or text) about a political, social or military
victory of Rome celebrating the power and importance of the Eternal
City. The theme will be:

- ancient roman military, political and social victories
- roman wars
- The city of Rome

2) The Award is open to single participants or to groups composed of
a maximum of 5 citizens. Each participant or group of participants
can participate with just _one_ work. It isn't allowed to be a
member of a group and participate as a individual at the same time.
The contributed work must be in English, with a maximum of 500
words. These kinds of works are accepted: novel, poem, drama,
tragedy, comedy.

3) Each text must have the following facts about the participant(s):
Nova Roman name, real name, Nova Roman Provinceage, e-mail address
and macronationla address

4) The deadline to send own work is 10th September, 2003 (2756
a.u.c.), by e-mail to sacro_barese_impero@... [Franciscus
Apulus Caesar] with the subject "LRCA 2003".

5) The texts will judged by a Jury composed by the four highest
Magistrati with Imperium (and thereby with the ancient right to lead
armies) of our beloved Res Publica.

Each judge in the jury shall value each work following this table of
judgement:
- Contents (0-10 points)
- Roman historical references (0-10 points)
- Language (0-5 points)
- Poetry and dramatization (0-5 points)
- Specific references to contents (0-10 points)

5 a) The points from all judges are summarized and this sum will
decide who will win.
5 b) The judgements of the jury are un-impugnable.

6) The winner of the Romani Cultural Award will be published at the
Cohors Aedilis Website - Section Ludi and at the Main Mailing List
of Nova Roma and as a virtual Diploma and he'll win a little statue
of a vexillifer.

7) The texts will be archived by the Ludi organization. The
participants give the copyrights of their text to Nova Roma
accepting this regulation.
This Regulation is accepted by taking part of the "the Ludi Romani
Cultural Award" (LVCA).

------------

Valete
FR Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile

I laughed my F'ing ass off!
Who can truly now doubt that all roads do not lead to Rome!?!?!?!
Most excellent post Tiberius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Tiberius <Tiberius@l...> wrote:
> OK Now this is priceless
>
> Valete
> K.M. Tiberius
> Legatus Legio XXI Rapax
> http://www.leg-xxi.org
>
> > How Specifications Live Forever
> > ================================
> >
> > When you see a space shuttle sitting on the launch pad, there
> > are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main
> > fuel tank. These are the solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.
> >
>SNIP

LOL, there we go, a capatalist in action.
Wouldn't hurt to have a Bruger Emperor, McCeasar's or a Pmpeii's
Fried Chicken either, lol.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus"
<richmal@a...> wrote:

>
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher"
> > <spqr753@m...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Salve Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius
> > > >
> > > > HELL they wont even let us bring in COFFEE!!!!!!!!! Do you

REALLY

> > > think that we will be able to get air conditioners by the

border

> > > patrol .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vale
> > > >
> > > > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > SNIP
>
> Salve,
>
> That's why I'm planning on lining the roads leading to Nova Roma

with

> Starbucks and Dunkin' Donuts franchises. <G>
>
> Vale,
>
> Q. Cassius Calvus

At McCaesar's you'ld buy the new BigMac with meal of the Gallia
Cisalpina, salade and garum (without potatoes and tomatoes). The
menu give you a cup of mulsum

LOL :-D

Vale
FAC


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
<mballetta@h...> wrote:

> LOL, there we go, a capatalist in action.
> Wouldn't hurt to have a Bruger Emperor, McCeasar's or a Pmpeii's
> Fried Chicken either, lol.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus"
> <richmal@a...> wrote:
> >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher"
> > > <spqr753@m...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Salve Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius
> > > > >
> > > > > HELL they wont even let us bring in COFFEE!!!!!!!!! Do you
> REALLY
> > > > think that we will be able to get air conditioners by the
> border
> > > > patrol .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale
> > > > >
> > > > > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > SNIP
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > That's why I'm planning on lining the roads leading to Nova Roma
> with
> > Starbucks and Dunkin' Donuts franchises. <G>
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Q. Cassius Calvus

Salvete.

I am a new cive in Nova Roma. I have read this thread with much
interest, as late Republican Rome is a passion of mine.

I think the fact that, after the civil war ended, that Rome entered
into an even greater one-man rule than any Kingdom might have
engendered, may say a great deal about Caesar and his time. That is
to say, Rome seemed a great deal more willing to accept one man
ruling, especially if that one man offered a sense of order and
stability, than it would have appeared from the likes of Cassius and
Cato. Particularly if the one man was also popular, whether or not
he was actually a "good" man.

Vale!
Isidora Galeria Sergia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Caesar is neither the evil slayer of the Republic nor
> the virtuious defender of the lower classes that many
> wish to make him out to be. He was an unusualy gifted
> man who was sweep along by forces that were out of his
> control or anyone elses.
>
> The Republic was dying, and would have died at about
> the same time if Caesar had never been born. The Roman
> Governmental structures that evolved to administer a
> city state were cracking under the strain of running
> an empire.
>
> As the wealth that could be gained from a term
> governing a province increased larger and larger sums
> were being spent in efforts to gain the office of
> Praetor and Consul, and failure to be elected no
> longer just ment a carrer as a "backbencher" in the
> Senate, it now ment finicial ruin.
>
> Many Romans began to aquire a taste for autocratic
> rule after governing a province as a king in all but
> name, and this taste stayed with them after thier
> return to Rome.
>
> The Roman government had lost control of it's army,
> and this was never reestablished even during the
> Empire when there was allways a danger that a General
> would march his legions towards Roma.
>
> Before Caesar donned the Toga of an adult things had
> allready reached the point that political struggles
> were a matter of life and death.
>
> The Republic was in need of a major reorganization
> before Caesar achived his first public office, but the
> political situation insured that any attempt at this
> reqoganization would result in a civil war.
>
> If Caesar had never lived or if he was only known to
> us as another Catalina who failed a war between
> another Anthony and another Octavian still would have
> broken out sooner or later that would have seen the
> destruction of the Republic.
>

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to Wade the son of the Witch of Battles. Salve.

Sunday is derived from Sol's Day and the cult of Soli Invictus was one of the strongest of the Imperial Cults during the 2nd-5th Century C.E. before being completely eclipsed by Christianity. The Cult of the Sun was also tied to the cult of Mithras; He being a god only less powerful that Sol Invictus himself. The emperor Aurelian was one of the most famous of the devotees of the cult. The works of Cumont and Ulansey have a good deal of information on Sol Invictus who may be the same god that the Persians worshipped as Ahura-Mazda. I hope that your researches yield good results as I am also an initiate of your faith as well as the Religio. Vale.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marieaparsons" <khenmetaset@p...>
wrote:

> Salvete.
>
> I am a new cive in Nova Roma. I have read this thread with much
> interest, as late Republican Rome is a passion of mine.

How well I know your expertise, and what a delight to welcome you to
Nova Roma! Quirites, I warmly recommend this new civa to your
attention, for I have enjoyed her as a collegue for many years, and
have missed her scholarly writings for these past two years.

You are welcome indeed, my dear!

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I guess I don't have to say that the house salad dressing is Ceasar.
But wait, Oh My, Ceasear had nothing to do with salad dressing, they
probably didn't even have some of the ingredients that we use today,
so historichally, we cant do that blah, blah, blah blah blah,LOL, get
over it! Humor, what a concept!
Grazie amico mio, questo e' una grande burla, lol.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Franciscus Apulus Caesar"
<sacro_barese_impero@l...> wrote:

> At McCaesar's you'ld buy the new BigMac with meal of the Gallia
> Cisalpina, salade and garum (without potatoes and tomatoes). The
> menu give you a cup of mulsum
>
> LOL :-D
>
> Vale
> FAC
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
> <mballetta@h...> wrote:
> > LOL, there we go, a capatalist in action.
> > Wouldn't hurt to have a Bruger Emperor, McCeasar's or a Pmpeii's
> > Fried Chicken either, lol.
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus"
> > <richmal@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher"
> > > > <spqr753@m...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Salve Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HELL they wont even let us bring in COFFEE!!!!!!!!! Do

you

> > REALLY
> > > > > think that we will be able to get air conditioners by the
> > border
> > > > > patrol .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vale
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > SNIP
> > >
> > > Salve,
> > >
> > > That's why I'm planning on lining the roads leading to Nova

Roma

> > with
> > > Starbucks and Dunkin' Donuts franchises. <G>
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Q. Cassius Calvus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marieaparsons" <khenmetaset@p...> wrote:

>Salvete.
>
>I am a new cive in Nova Roma. I have read this thread with much interest,
>as late Republican Rome is a passion of mine.
>
>I think the fact that, after the civil war ended, that Rome entered into an
>even greater one-man rule than any Kingdom might have engendered, may say a
>great deal about Caesar and his time. That is to say, Rome seemed a great
>deal more willing to accept one man ruling, especially if that one man
>offered a sense of order and stability, than it would have appeared from
>the likes of Cassius and Cato. Particularly if the one man was also
>popular, whether or not he was actually a "good" man.
>
>Vale!
>Isidora Galeria Sergia

------------------------------------------------------------

Salve Galeria Sergia:

Could that be really the case, or maybe the Cassius and the Catos got
their way after Caesar was gone. But look what I am doing here, how
careless of me, speaking of Caesar instead of welcoming my new consobrina
into our family and our Res Publica.

Welcome to our family. We're happy you joined us.

Welcome.

G. Galerius Peregrinator.

>

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Salve Romans

I was thinking it might make a nice feature for the Eagle to share how different citizens came by their Roman names. A little vignette on which famous Roman you admired ,if you picked a famous name, or some other story on how you came by it. Please keep it to about 150 words or so. The more the merrier!!!!!

Just sent it to me at spqr753@...


Thanks

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum




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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:
MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS TRIBVNO DIANAE MORAVIAE AVENTINAE S.P.D.

AVE DIANA,

I thank you for clarifying this point. I assume that the Tribune of
the People will also continue to exercise INTERCESSIO if and where
he/she thinks it appropriate to do so? I believe NOVA ROMA may
differ somewhat from ROMA in antiquity although I'm unsure how
precisely.

VALE

M. CALIDIVS GRACCHVS

TVVS IN SODILCIO RES PVBLICA ROMANAE

VERITAS LVX MEA

>
> I've cross posted this to the Main list as this may be of interest

to all

> citizens and not solely Plebeians.
>
> <Would it now be appropriate for me to now contact the Senate to

argue the

> case or should those views be more properly related VIA yourself,

honourable

> Tribune?
>
> This is an excellent question and one which has often been unclear

to the

> Tribunes themselves.
>
> The current wording of the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS,

which

> define the procedures for Senate meetings, is open to

interpretation

> regarding the Tribune's participation in the debates. The current

Senate

> procedures (SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS) state:
>
> "The debate shall be limited to the members of the Senate, the

presiding

> magistrate, and the tribunes of the plebs (who shall keep the

citizens

> informed as to the progress and content of the debate)."
>
> Basically if one puts the period (.) after the word 'plebs' on the

sentence

> above, the Tribunes can participate
> in the Senate's debates. But when adding the words within the

parenthesis,

> it becomes unclear. As a result, new procedures which clarify

this (and

> other Senate procedures) are currently on this Senate meeting's

agenda. If

> enacted during the voting that is currently in progress, the

above will be

> changed to :
>
> "The debate shall be limited to the presiding magistrate, members

of the

> Senate, and any magistrate which the presiding magistrate has

allowed to

> present items in accord with section IV above. The tribunes of the

plebs

> shall keep the citizens informed as to the progress and content of

the

> debate."
>
> *Assuming* that the new procedures will be passed, the function of

the

> Tribune within the Senate is to watch, listen, and report to the

people on

> what is being discussed and then later, to report the results of

those

> discussions and voting. However, while the Tribunes will not be

able to take

> part in the debating, we still represent the people. So any

citizen wishing

> to be heard by the Senate could always contact the Tribunes and on

your

> behalf, we will present your opinion to individual Senators or all

of the

> Senators at once by using the email address senate@n...
>
> Valete,
> Diana Moravia Aventina
> Tribune
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Romans FYI

From the History Channel Website

September 2
31 B.C. The Battle of Actium

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

At the Battle of Actium, off the western coast of Greece, Roman leader Octavian wins a decisive victory against the forces of Roman Mark Antony and Cleopatra, queen of Egypt. Before their forces suffered final defeat, Antony and Cleopatra broke though the enemy lines and fled to Egypt, where they would commit suicide the following year.

With the assassination of Roman dictator Julius Caesar in 44 B.C., Rome fell into civil war. To end the fighting, a coalition--the Second Triumvirate--was formed by three of the strongest belligerents. The triumvirate was made up of Octavian, Caesar's great-nephew and chosen heir; Mark Antony, a powerful general; and Lepidus, a Roman statesman. The empire was divided among the three, and Antony took up the administration of the eastern provinces. Upon arriving in Asia Minor, he summoned Queen Cleopatra to answer charges that she had aided his enemies. Cleopatra, ruler of Egypt since 51 B.C., had once been Julius Caesar's lover and had borne him a child, who she named Caesarion, meaning "little Caesar."

Cleopatra sought to seduce Antony as she had Caesar before him, and in 41 B.C. arrived at Tarsus on a magnificent river barge, dressed as Venus, the Roman goddess of love. Successful in her efforts, Antony returned with her to Alexandria, where they spent the winter in debauchery. In 40 B.C., Antony returned to Rome and married Octavian's sister Octavia in an effort to mend his increasingly strained relationship with Octavian. The triumvirate, however, continued to deteriorate. In 37 B.C. Antony separated from Octavia and traveled to the East, arranging for Cleopatra to join him in Syria. In their time apart, Cleopatra had borne him twins, a son and a daughter. According to Octavian's propagandists, the lovers were then married, which violated the Roman law restricting Romans from marrying foreigners.

Antony's disastrous military campaign against Parthia in 36 B.C. further reduced his prestige, but in 34 B.C. he was more successful against Armenia. To celebrate the victory, he staged a triumphal procession through the streets of Alexandria, in which Antony and Cleopatra sat on golden thrones, and their children were given imposing royal titles. Many in Rome, spurred on by Octavian, interpreted the spectacle as a sign that Antony intended to deliver the Roman Empire into alien hands.

After several more years of tension and propaganda attacks, Octavian declared war against Cleopatra, and therefore Antony, in 31 B.C. Enemies of Octavian rallied to Antony's side, but Octavian's brilliant military commanders gained early successes against his forces. On September 2, 31 B.C., their fleets clashed at Actium in Greece. After heavy fighting, Cleopatra broke from the engagement and set course for Egypt with 60 of her ships. Antony then broke through the enemy line and followed her. The disheartened fleet that remained surrendered to Octavian. One week later, Antony's land forces surrendered.

Although they had suffered a decisive defeat, it was nearly a year before Octavian reached Alexandria and again defeated Antony. In the aftermath of the battle, Cleopatra took refuge in the mausoleum she had had built for herself. Antony, informed that Cleopatra was dead, stabbed himself with his sword. Before he died, another messenger arrived, saying Cleopatra still lived. Antony was carried to Cleopatra's retreat, where he died after bidding her to make her peace with Octavian. When the triumphant Roman arrived, she attempted to seduce him, but he resisted her charms. Rather than fall under Octavian's domination, Cleopatra committed suicide on August 30, 31 B.C., possibly by means of an asp, a poisonous Egyptian serpent and symbol of divine royalty.

Octavian then executed Cleopatra's son, Caesarion, annexed Egypt into the Roman Empire, and used Cleopatra's treasure to pay off his veterans. In 27 B.C., Octavian became Augustus, the first and arguably most successful of all Roman emperors. He ruled a peaceful, prosperous, and expanding Roman Empire until his death in 14 A.D. at the age of 75.


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That would make a fantastic Japanese style anti-hero drama - the
nobility of failure - they sure gave it a good try though.
I must be biased from the movie versions but Octavian was played by
someone who didn't seem like he'd be interested in being seduced by
Cleopatra as much as one of her man servants.
But according to history, Ovtavian/Augustus gave the EMpire a great
more than 40 years.
Thanks for the history update Paulinus, I enjoyed it as much as I
wish things had turned out another way, lol.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:

> Salve Romans FYI
>
> From the History Channel Website
>
> September 2
> 31 B.C. The Battle of Actium
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> At the Battle of Actium, off the western coast of Greece, Roman

leader Octavian wins a decisive victory against the forces of Roman
Mark Antony and Cleopatra, queen of Egypt. Before their forces
suffered final defeat, Antony and Cleopatra broke though the enemy
lines and fled to Egypt, where they would commit suicide the
following year.

>
> With the assassination of Roman dictator Julius Caesar in 44 B.C.,

Rome fell into civil war. To end the fighting, a coalition--the
Second Triumvirate--was formed by three of the strongest
belligerents. The triumvirate was made up of Octavian, Caesar's great-
nephew and chosen heir; Mark Antony, a powerful general; and Lepidus,
a Roman statesman. The empire was divided among the three, and Antony
took up the administration of the eastern provinces. Upon arriving in
Asia Minor, he summoned Queen Cleopatra to answer charges that she
had aided his enemies. Cleopatra, ruler of Egypt since 51 B.C., had
once been Julius Caesar's lover and had borne him a child, who she
named Caesarion, meaning "little Caesar."

>
> Cleopatra sought to seduce Antony as she had Caesar before him, and

in 41 B.C. arrived at Tarsus on a magnificent river barge, dressed as
Venus, the Roman goddess of love. Successful in her efforts, Antony
returned with her to Alexandria, where they spent the winter in
debauchery. In 40 B.C., Antony returned to Rome and married
Octavian's sister Octavia in an effort to mend his increasingly
strained relationship with Octavian. The triumvirate, however,
continued to deteriorate. In 37 B.C. Antony separated from Octavia
and traveled to the East, arranging for Cleopatra to join him in
Syria. In their time apart, Cleopatra had borne him twins, a son and
a daughter. According to Octavian's propagandists, the lovers were
then married, which violated the Roman law restricting Romans from
marrying foreigners.

>
> Antony's disastrous military campaign against Parthia in 36 B.C.

further reduced his prestige, but in 34 B.C. he was more successful
against Armenia. To celebrate the victory, he staged a triumphal
procession through the streets of Alexandria, in which Antony and
Cleopatra sat on golden thrones, and their children were given
imposing royal titles. Many in Rome, spurred on by Octavian,
interpreted the spectacle as a sign that Antony intended to deliver
the Roman Empire into alien hands.

>
> After several more years of tension and propaganda attacks,

Octavian declared war against Cleopatra, and therefore Antony, in 31
B.C. Enemies of Octavian rallied to Antony's side, but Octavian's
brilliant military commanders gained early successes against his
forces. On September 2, 31 B.C., their fleets clashed at Actium in
Greece. After heavy fighting, Cleopatra broke from the engagement and
set course for Egypt with 60 of her ships. Antony then broke through
the enemy line and followed her. The disheartened fleet that remained
surrendered to Octavian. One week later, Antony's land forces
surrendered.

>
> Although they had suffered a decisive defeat, it was nearly a year

before Octavian reached Alexandria and again defeated Antony. In the
aftermath of the battle, Cleopatra took refuge in the mausoleum she
had had built for herself. Antony, informed that Cleopatra was dead,
stabbed himself with his sword. Before he died, another messenger
arrived, saying Cleopatra still lived. Antony was carried to
Cleopatra's retreat, where he died after bidding her to make her
peace with Octavian. When the triumphant Roman arrived, she attempted
to seduce him, but he resisted her charms. Rather than fall under
Octavian's domination, Cleopatra committed suicide on August 30, 31
B.C., possibly by means of an asp, a poisonous Egyptian serpent and
symbol of divine royalty.

>
> Octavian then executed Cleopatra's son, Caesarion, annexed Egypt

into the Roman Empire, and used Cleopatra's treasure to pay off his
veterans. In 27 B.C., Octavian became Augustus, the first and
arguably most successful of all Roman emperors. He ruled a peaceful,
prosperous, and expanding Roman Empire until his death in 14 A.D. at
the age of 75.

>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

It is for me a pleasure to announce a new course in the Academia
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AVETE OMNES

First of all let me apologize for my absence. While my internet
connection got broken I thought it would be nice to get pneumonia as
well. And I also thought that an otitis could add some tast to my
life. Last friday I came back home after I have been at the hospital.
I still can not go outside...
My left ear is not ok yet, and many of you know that this is a
rather big problem with my work (orchestra conductor). Just I get
two different sounds instead of one. Nice, isn't it???? :-[

Today I managed to get a new computer with a new internet
connection. That's my unbelievable technological revolution, given
that before my pneumonia I didn't even manage to read word files...
Now _I can_.

I'd like to thank all those who worried for me. You have been very
nice. Now if you want to send me some cake that's ok with me: I'd
recover sooner :-)

Ok, now I have to keep catching up what happened while I was absent.
First of all I got 621 private e-mails, and up to now I read about
300. Then I'll have to read the mailing list archives...
Just give me a couple of days to have everything ok.

Thank you again,

OPTIME VALETE
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Qvaestor
Legatvs Provinciae Italiae
Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs

Salve,

You need cake? I make a GREAT double dark chocolate. If you think
it will make it, I would be happy to send one! I do hope you feel
better soon.

Vale,

Annia Octavia Indagatrix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Manius Constantinus Serapio"
<mcserapio@y...> wrote:

> AVETE OMNES
>
> First of all let me apologize for my absence. While my internet
> connection got broken I thought it would be nice to get pneumonia

as

> well. And I also thought that an otitis could add some tast to my
> life. Last friday I came back home after I have been at the

hospital.

> I still can not go outside...
> My left ear is not ok yet, and many of you know that this is a
> rather big problem with my work (orchestra conductor). Just I get
> two different sounds instead of one. Nice, isn't it???? :-[
>
> Today I managed to get a new computer with a new internet
> connection. That's my unbelievable technological revolution, given
> that before my pneumonia I didn't even manage to read word

files...

> Now _I can_.
>
> I'd like to thank all those who worried for me. You have been very
> nice. Now if you want to send me some cake that's ok with me: I'd
> recover sooner :-)
>
> Ok, now I have to keep catching up what happened while I was

absent.

> First of all I got 621 private e-mails, and up to now I read about
> 300. Then I'll have to read the mailing list archives...
> Just give me a couple of days to have everything ok.
>
> Thank you again,
>
> OPTIME VALETE
> Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
> Qvaestor
> Legatvs Provinciae Italiae
> Dominvs Praefectvs Sodalitatis Egressvs

Salve, Manius Constantinus Serapio -

On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:30:09AM -0000, Manius Constantinus Serapio wrote:
> AVETE OMNES
>
> First of all let me apologize for my absence. While my internet
> connection got broken I thought it would be nice to get pneumonia as
> well. And I also thought that an otitis could add some tast to my
> life. Last friday I came back home after I have been at the hospital.
> I still can not go outside...

Good grief, man! I realize you were enjoying doing all that - it's not
like you get a chance to play with death every day - but you shouldn't
hog all the fun. Next time, hire somebody to do at least a part of it,
or leave some of it for later. I mean, what are you going to do for an
encore?

Seriously... I'm very glad that you're OK - or at least mostly OK.
Pneumonia is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

> My left ear is not ok yet, and many of you know that this is a
> rather big problem with my work (orchestra conductor). Just I get
> two different sounds instead of one. Nice, isn't it???? :-[

Ochhh. Just awful. I wish you full health soon.

> Today I managed to get a new computer with a new internet
> connection. That's my unbelievable technological revolution, given
> that before my pneumonia I didn't even manage to read word files...
> Now _I can_.
>
> I'd like to thank all those who worried for me. You have been very
> nice. Now if you want to send me some cake that's ok with me: I'd
> recover sooner :-)

Hmm, why do I get the feeling that you're going to be swamped with cakes
in the mail? :) Tell you what, I'll bake one and send you my good wishes
while I eat it; think of it as the ultimate in homeopathy. The way I
figure it, there's got to be *some* sort of miraculous healing powers in
anything as good as my Hazelnut Rum Cake with Grand Marnier... let me
know if you're going to visit Florida anytime soon; I might save you
some.


Optime vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Dum inter homines sumus, colamus humanitatem.
As long as we are among humans, let us be humane.
-- Seneca, "De ira"

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "The Palaeography of the Madaba Map in Light of
Recent Discoveries: A Preliminary Analysis":

http://198.62.75.1/www1/ofm/mad/articles/RusselPaleography.html

This article by James Russel (with an appendix by Gail Fenwick),
originally published in _The Madaba Map Centenary, 1897-1997_
(Jerusalem, 1999, 125-133, applies examples from the palaeography of
epigraphs to examine the palaeography of the Madaba Map, illuminating
an area often taken for granted: the letters and words on a map can be
just as important as the other signa in explaining the purpose and use
of a map.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

AVE ANNIA OCTAVIA INDAGATRIX

> You need cake? I make a GREAT double dark chocolate. If you

think

> it will make it, I would be happy to send one!

WHAAAAAT????????

DOUBLE......DARK......CHOCOLATE.....

X*/%&$£!?&(!#! ! ! ! ! !

I get crazy with dark chocolate!!!!!!!! Please, don't tempt me,
otherwise tomorrow morning I'll be in front of your door, wherever
you live!!! <g>

I do hope you feel

> better soon.

Thank you very much! :-)

BENE VALE
M'Con.Serapio

AVE C MINVCI SCAEVOLA

> Next time, hire somebody to do at least a part of it,
> or leave some of it for later.

That's a good idea! I could ask my neighbour 'Sorry, would you like
to get ill with me? We'd have half of the fun each!' That's good,
I'll try this ;-)

> Hmm, why do I get the feeling that you're going to be swamped with

cakes

> in the mail? :) Tell you what, I'll bake one and send you my good

wishes

> while I eat it; think of it as the ultimate in homeopathy.

Well... I'll have to improve my fancy... Just I'm not persuaded such
a strategy will be that effective...

The way I

> figure it, there's got to be *some* sort of miraculous healing

powers in

> anything as good as my Hazelnut Rum Cake with Grand Marnier... let

me

> know if you're going to visit Florida anytime soon; I might save

you

> some.

Oh, this could be much more effective!!! Just let me list things...

double dark chocolate... hazelnut rum cake with Grand Marnier...
That's _so_ nice.
Just I fear I'll not be able to visit Florida very soon... that's
life :-)

BTW, I can still remember that exquisite Roman cake with pears and
garum I ate several months ago in Rome!!! :-) The Cassii know that
wonderful place where we ate toghether! :-)

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio

Salvete omnes...

Reading these posts, I suddenly pictured a "Roman Bake-off, c/o
Bettissima Crocera."

Have all these recipes been filed somewhere?

Valete,
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Manius Constantinus Serapio"
<mcserapio@y...> wrote:

> AVE C MINVCI SCAEVOLA
>
> > Next time, hire somebody to do at least a part of it,
> > or leave some of it for later.
>
> That's a good idea! I could ask my neighbour 'Sorry, would you

like

> to get ill with me? We'd have half of the fun each!' That's good,
> I'll try this ;-)
>
> > Hmm, why do I get the feeling that you're going to be swamped

with

> cakes
> > in the mail? :) Tell you what, I'll bake one and send you my

good

> wishes
> > while I eat it; think of it as the ultimate in homeopathy.
>
> Well... I'll have to improve my fancy... Just I'm not persuaded

such

> a strategy will be that effective...
>
> The way I
> > figure it, there's got to be *some* sort of miraculous healing
> powers in
> > anything as good as my Hazelnut Rum Cake with Grand Marnier...

let

> me
> > know if you're going to visit Florida anytime soon; I might save
> you
> > some.
>
> Oh, this could be much more effective!!! Just let me list things...
>
> double dark chocolate... hazelnut rum cake with Grand Marnier...
> That's _so_ nice.
> Just I fear I'll not be able to visit Florida very soon... that's
> life :-)
>
> BTW, I can still remember that exquisite Roman cake with pears and
> garum I ate several months ago in Rome!!! :-) The Cassii know that
> wonderful place where we ate toghether! :-)
>
> OPTIME VALE
> M'Con.Serapio

Salve Romans


We are putting the final touches to the New quick and Black and white bulletin which is very time sensitive if you have ANY dates for ANY Roman related event for October, November and December PLEASE send them in NOW!!!!!!!!!!!


You can also send in dates for later events!!!!!!!!!!!! Early


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum


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---Lol..Salvete omnes;
Serapio, I make wonderful American brownies with dark Belgian
chocolate; just say the word "Bettisim Crocera" and I will send you
some. Chocolate warning; they are very rich!
Valete, Pomponia Fabia Vera Attica (formerly Urania)

> Salvete omnes...
>
> Reading these posts, I suddenly pictured a "Roman Bake-off, c/o
> Bettissima Crocera."
>
> Have all these recipes been filed somewhere?
>
> Valete,
> Isidora Galeria
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Manius Constantinus Serapio"
> <mcserapio@y...> wrote:
> > AVE C MINVCI SCAEVOLA
> >
> > > Next time, hire somebody to do at least a part of it,
> > > or leave some of it for later.
> >
> > That's a good idea! I could ask my neighbour 'Sorry, would you
> like
> > to get ill with me? We'd have half of the fun each!' That's good,
> > I'll try this ;-)
> >
> > > Hmm, why do I get the feeling that you're going to be swamped
> with
> > cakes
> > > in the mail? :) Tell you what, I'll bake one and send you my
> good
> > wishes
> > > while I eat it; think of it as the ultimate in homeopathy.
> >
> > Well... I'll have to improve my fancy... Just I'm not persuaded
> such
> > a strategy will be that effective...
> >
> > >
> > Oh, this could be much more effective!!! Just let me list

things...

> >
> >
> > wonderful place where we ate toghether! :-)
> >
> > OPTIME VALE
> > M'Con.Serapio

AVE POMPONIA FABIA VERA ATTICA

> Serapio, I make wonderful American brownies with dark Belgian
> chocolate; just say the word "Bettisim Crocera" and I will send

you

> some. Chocolate warning; they are very rich!

What a wonderful world! You just say a word and you suddendly get
three "sweetmeat proposals"! In addition you keep seeing your
cognomen in the subject lines of the Main List. That's better than
the electoral campaign!
I'd _love_ to taste your wonderful brownies with chocolate! :-)
Just what does "Bettisim Crocera" means? Well, as an italian I can
recognize "crocera", but what about "Bettisim"? :-)

Well, after all these mails on sweets, I guess my reputation as a
Quaestor is inexorably going down... <g> :-)

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio

Salvete members of factio Veneta.
Remember that the deadline for the Ludi is September 6th!!!. I hope to meet you all at the Circus!!!
Bene valete et habeatis fortunam optimam.
L. Pompeius Octavianus
Dominus Factionis Veneta


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Ave Manius Constantinus Serapio:

Since I coined this phrase I will explain that, since "Betty
Crocker" spawned the "Bake-offs" I attempted to alter her name to as
much of a Roman sound as I could. Hence, "Bettisima Crocera" was as
close as I could get.

But all this chocolate makes me think, forget the Bake-off, let's
just have a dessert banquet.

Hmmmm I think I shall add in, TIRAMISU into this mix. Tiramisu can
make ALL ills go away, it is good for the most debilitating of
ailments and makes the heart positively sing with good feeling.

Vale Bene!
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Manius Constantinus Serapio"
<mcserapio@y...> wrote:

> Just what does "Bettisim Crocera" means? Well, as an italian I can
> recognize "crocera", but what about "Bettisim"? :-)
>

> OPTIME VALE
> M'Con.Serapio

Ave, Dominus!

I am a new cives in Nova Roma (apologies if I have not introduced
myself more formally herein, I shall be happy to do so separately.)

I joined the Factio Veneta, and have submitted a driver and chariot
in to the Ludi. I only hope Rufinus forgets the pleasures of the
grape and instead focuses on his training in the eastern stables of
Araby *sighing*.

Vale!
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O. Villanueva"
<danielovi@c...> wrote:

> Salvete members of factio Veneta.
> Remember that the deadline for the Ludi is September 6th!!!. I

hope to meet you all at the Circus!!!

> Bene valete et habeatis fortunam optimam.
> L. Pompeius Octavianus
> Dominus Factionis Veneta
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

-----Original Message-----
From : marieaparsons <khenmetaset@...>
Date : 03 September 2003 19:08:26

>
>But all this chocolate makes me think, forget the Bake-off, let's
>just have a dessert banquet.
>

And the really bad new is...Rome hasn't discovered Aztec Xocoatl yet. Just have to settle for Carob instead :(

Caesariensis.

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Is that the chocolate and cayenne pepper? (having viewed
_Chocolat_)...

mmmmmmmm
Isidora

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, me-in-@d... wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
>
> And the really bad new is...Rome hasn't discovered Aztec Xocoatl
yet. Just have to settle for Carob instead :(
>
> Caesariensis.
>

Ave Domina Iulilla!

I seem to have missed this post of yours for some reason, otherwise
I would have greeted you before this. I hope things have been well
with you and yours.

Vale!
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Julilla Sempronia Magna"
<curatrix@v...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marieaparsons"

<khenmetaset@p...>

> wrote:
> > Salvete.
> >
> > I am a new cive in Nova Roma. I have read this thread with much
> > interest, as late Republican Rome is a passion of mine.
>
> How well I know your expertise, and what a delight to welcome you

to

> Nova Roma! Quirites, I warmly recommend this new civa to your
> attention, for I have enjoyed her as a collegue for many years,

and

> have missed her scholarly writings for these past two years.
>
> You are welcome indeed, my dear!
>
> ---
> IVLI.SEMPRON.MAGN.PR.AM.BOR.
> @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
> |||| www.villaivlilla.com/
> @____@ Praetrix America Boreoccidentalis
> |||| http://ambor.novaroma.org
> Discussion Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AmBor_Waves/

-----Original Message-----
From : marieaparsons <khenmetaset@...>
Date : 03 September 2003 22:33:36

Is that the chocolate and cayenne pepper? (having viewed

>_Chocolat_)...
>

You can't have the Cayenne either! I think it's just chocolate. Carob is a substitute, not as bitter, more of a natural vanilla taste. Not bad in its own right but the dark foaming brew that used to get the Aztecs and Inca fit for fathering a few sons or despatching a few of other people's sons. Hi Ho hi ho it's off to war we go....

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AVE ISIDORA GALERIA

> Hmmmm I think I shall add in, TIRAMISU into this mix. Tiramisu can
> make ALL ills go away, it is good for the most debilitating of
> ailments and makes the heart positively sing with good feeling.

........tiramisu....... my mother makes an exquisite one....
Anyway, I understood the game of you all. Someone thought it could
be a good opportunity to kill Quaestor Serapio by filling him with
sweets! That's no longer a mistery!!! ;-) [just kidding, of course!]

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio

Ave Manius Constantinus!

Kill you with sweets? But no, if we did that then we could not feast
at the happy news of your complete and utter recovery!

Besides, sugar is a good energy source, and energy is just what one
needs to feel completely returned to activity.

So now that we have done you such a good deed as to drown
you....errrr immerse you.....errrr fill you sweetly full with
sugar ;) what are your plans now?

Vale sweetly,
I. Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Manius Constantinus Serapio"
<mcserapio@y...> wrote:

> AVE ISIDORA GALERIA
>
>
> ........tiramisu....... my mother makes an exquisite one....
> Anyway, I understood the game of you all. Someone thought it could
> be a good opportunity to kill Quaestor Serapio by filling him with
> sweets! That's no longer a mistery!!! ;-) [just kidding, of

course!]

>
> OPTIME VALE
> M'Con.Serapio

Salve Serapio,

>> ........tiramisu....... my mother makes an exquisite one....
>> Anyway, I understood the game of you all. Someone thought it could
>> be a good opportunity to kill Quaestor Serapio by filling him with
>> sweets!

Nah dear... We just know that you are rather on the slim side and we all all
worried that you lost weight during the pneumonia. We all just want to
fatten you up a bit :-)
My offering to your menu is: french fries with mayonnaise and for dessert a
dozen Belgian pastries, especially 'Berliner Ballen*: full of fat and with
lots of vanilla cream inside!! :-)

Vale,
Diana
*The reason I've become extremely voluptuous since moving to this country!

AVE ISIDORA GALERIA

> So now that we have done you such a good deed as to drown
> you....errrr immerse you.....errrr fill you sweetly full with
> sugar ;) what are your plans now?

So... what about digesting? <g> :-)
Jokes apart, don't worry, I already started working for NR again :-)

BENE VALE
M'Con.Serapio

AVE DIANA

> Nah dear... We just know that you are rather on the slim side and

we all all

> worried that you lost weight during the pneumonia. We all just

want to

> fatten you up a bit :-)
> My offering to your menu is: french fries with mayonnaise and for

dessert a

> dozen Belgian pastries, especially 'Berliner Ballen*: full of fat

and with

> lots of vanilla cream inside!! :-)

Hey! You want me to open both the doors of my gate when going inside
and outside home! And what about my toga? I'd need a 36 meters long
one! I'd have to resign as a magistrate in order to save money for
such a long purple stripe! :-)

Well, ok, thank you all for this funny and relaxing conversation. I
guess somebody could get bored by reading such a large number of off-
topic messages, unless we start talking of Roman sweetmeet :-)

Thank you all again!

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio (today 54Kg. Tomorrow?) :-)

Avete Quirites et Omnes

I've been a citizen of Nova Roma for a few months, but have only just joined
this group. The upcoming provincia Britannia gathering is very welcome (I
live in London) but can anyone tell me where on the main NR website details about
it will be logged?

The other thing I wanted to ask was whether there is anyone who might be
tempted into practising their Latin via E-mail. I'm at intermediate level, but my
Latin group tends to concentrate on translation into English, so I'm not
getting enough practise with all the grammar.

A little time ago I joined Latin-Chat (an E-mail group) but it didn't really
help much. Most of the members were Roman Catholic clergy, who wanted to
discuss theological matters in Latin which was far too advanced for my
capabilities! If anyone at a similar level of competence to me wants to chat, I'd love
to hear.

Valete,

Placidia Prisca


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Salve, Manius Constantinus Serapio -

On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 12:27:15AM -0000, Manius Constantinus Serapio wrote:
> AVE DIANA
>
> > Nah dear... We just know that you are rather on the slim side and
> we all all
> > worried that you lost weight during the pneumonia. We all just
> want to
> > fatten you up a bit :-)
> > My offering to your menu is: french fries with mayonnaise and for
> dessert a
> > dozen Belgian pastries, especially 'Berliner Ballen*: full of fat
> and with
> > lots of vanilla cream inside!! :-)
>
> Hey! You want me to open both the doors of my gate when going inside
> and outside home! And what about my toga? I'd need a 36 meters long
> one! I'd have to resign as a magistrate in order to save money for
> such a long purple stripe! :-)
>
> Well, ok, thank you all for this funny and relaxing conversation. I
> guess somebody could get bored by reading such a large number of off-
> topic messages, unless we start talking of Roman sweetmeet :-)
>
> Thank you all again!
>
> OPTIME VALE
> M'Con.Serapio (today 54Kg. Tomorrow?) :-)

I think some people in togas are plotting against you. Or at least
against your remaining at 54Kg. :)

Hmm, perhaps my cappucino/cinnamon cheesecake, next. Choices, choices...

------------------------------------------------------------
ben@Fenrir:~$ recipe cake
Your query has returned 4175 results.
Would you like to [s]ee the list, [v]iew recipes, or [q]uit?
------------------------------------------------------------

(Yes, there _is_ such a thing as too many choices.)


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Melius frangi quam flecti.
It is better to break than to bend.
-- N/A

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Theodor Mommsen (1817-1903)":

http://www.mommsen.de/Theodor/index.html

This site, maintained by the Mommsen family, is dedicated to the
illustrious historian of Rome Theodor Mommsen. It inlcudes a
biographical sketch, a gallery of photographs, and links to other
sites dealing with Theodor Mommsen and his work. The site is
available in English and German; the German version has an essay on
Mommsen by Joachim Fest.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salve Placida Prisca,

> I've been a citizen of Nova Roma for a few months,
> but have only just joined
> this group. The upcoming provincia Britannia
> gathering is very welcome (I
> live in London) but can anyone tell me where on the
> main NR website details about
> it will be logged?

Welcome to Nova Roma :-)

Have you subscribed to our regional e-list? Most of
the details of the gathering have been published
there. You can subscribe at
BritanniaProvincia-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

The gathering is being organised by Cornelius Moravius
Laureatus Armoricus. You can find out some more
details from him at laureatusarmoricus@....
I know he is on holiday at the moment but drop him a
post and I'm sure he'll be in touch when he gets back.
I know he is looking for confirmations.

Our provincial website is located at
http://www.onlineera.com/britannia/ - details will
also be published there in the next couple of days.

Hope to see you in October

Vale

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Propraetor Britanniae.



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Salvete Romani,

Dear Albi (and other enthusiasts)! I hope that all of you will flock to the circus once more to cheer on our champions. But remember that the best way to contribute to our growth is to sponsor a chariot for factio Albata yourself! It's free, and you get to join the neatest factio out there.

So why hesitate? Join us today!

Valete bene,
Gn. Dionysius Draco,
dominus factionis Albatae


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Salvete onmes,

I cannot read the web.

What is the problem?

Valete bene

C.Publicola vobis salutat.

g_iulius_scaurus (gfr@...) in [Nova-Roma] Theodor Mommsen wrote:

g> G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

g> Avete, Quirites.

g> Here's a link to "Theodor Mommsen (1817-1903)":

g> http://www.mommsen.de/Theodor/index.html

g> This site, maintained by the Mommsen family, is dedicated to the
g> illustrious historian of Rome Theodor Mommsen.  It inlcudes a
g> biographical sketch, a gallery of photographs, and links to other
g> sites dealing with Theodor Mommsen and his work.  The site is
g> available in English and German; the German version has an essay on
g> Mommsen by Joachim Fest.

g> Valete, Quirites.

g> G. Iulius Scaurus


Thank you very much, Gai Iuli!
It is very usefull!
Th. Mommsen was my personal guide to Pax Romana in my 13!



Valete

mailto:alexus1978@...

Marcus Adrianus Complutensis wrote:

>
> Salvete onmes,
>
> I cannot read the web.

Do you mean http://www.novaroma.org/main.html ?

I just checked it and its up. Perhaps the ISP was offline
for a bit earlier today?

-- Marinus

Salve Romans Te precor dulcissime supplex!

Just a reminder to those who forgot but the staff of the Eagle is putting together a Nova Roma Cookbook of Roman/Ancient recipes PLEASE take a few minutes to send us some of yours that you have ACTUALLY tried.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum

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What are the DATES please

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] May I introduce myself?


Avete Quirites et Omnes

I've been a citizen of Nova Roma for a few months, but have only just joined
this group. The upcoming provincia Britannia gathering is very welcome (I
live in London) but can anyone tell me where on the main NR website details about
it will be logged?

The other thing I wanted to ask was whether there is anyone who might be
tempted into practising their Latin via E-mail. I'm at intermediate level, but my
Latin group tends to concentrate on translation into English, so I'm not
getting enough practise with all the grammar.

A little time ago I joined Latin-Chat (an E-mail group) but it didn't really
help much. Most of the members were Roman Catholic clergy, who wanted to
discuss theological matters in Latin which was far too advanced for my
capabilities! If anyone at a similar level of competence to me wants to chat, I'd love
to hear.

Valete,

Placidia Prisca


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Salve honored Curator!

Just in time to return to cooking rather than having those summer
salads and such :) Is there a time-limit on submissions?

Vale,
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:

> Salve Romans Te precor dulcissime supplex!
>
> Just a reminder to those who forgot but the staff of the Eagle is

putting together a Nova Roma Cookbook of Roman/Ancient recipes
PLEASE take a few minutes to send us some of yours that you have
ACTUALLY tried.

>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Curator Differum
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve My dear Cousin

No but I would like to publish before my term expires on Dec 31. The Sooner, is always the better

Vale

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: igaleria
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:15 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Nova Roma COOKBOOK


Salve honored Curator!

Just in time to return to cooking rather than having those summer
salads and such :) Is there a time-limit on submissions?

Vale,
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:
> Salve Romans Te precor dulcissime supplex!
>
> Just a reminder to those who forgot but the staff of the Eagle is
putting together a Nova Roma Cookbook of Roman/Ancient recipes
PLEASE take a few minutes to send us some of yours that you have
ACTUALLY tried.
>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Curator Differum
>
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Salve,
I am glad you are better, even though I do not know you...but I see that you are the popular one. AVE! AVE! AVE!


S P Q R

Fidelis Ad Mortem.

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Roman Citizen



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SALVETE

with this post I want introduce myself.
I'm a Nova Roma Citizen from April of this year. I'm very glad to belong
this community.

I live in Italy and, more exactly, in Rome so, as you can imagine, is very
exciting for a native Roman join a group with this common interest.

I have the fortune to see very often strong Roman symbols like the Colosseo,
Fori Romani, Acquedotto, Terme di Caracalla, Circo Massimo, Mura Aureliane
... that visually testify the power of the ancient Empire.

I wish a good work and a good luck for all Nova-Roman cives !

VALETE
C.IVL.MARIVS

AVE M FLAVI FIDES

(Is Fides the 3rd or the 5th declension noun? I suppose the 5th one,
given you "Fidelis Ad Mortem" at the bottom of the mail but, well,
just to be sure! :-) )

> I am glad you are better, even though I do not know you...but I

see that you are the popular one. AVE! AVE! AVE!

I thank you but please do not exaggerate! :-) I for one didn't
expected such a warm welcome back, but I really am not the popular
one here! :-) Anyway, I learned one thing: if you want to become
popular, you shall start asking for some cake! <grinnnnn> :-)

OPTIME VALE
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Qvaestor

Salve,
I agree, as my girth may suggest, cake is good!! I do have one question, my friend...were you serious about garum on pears? I am not very partial to fish in any form, I do love shrimp, scallops,etc, etc. But garum on fruit? I am sorry, it does not register to me. By the way, the first man in Rome quip was just a friendly welcome back, I hope no one gets...well, flustered.
Good health and happiness to you, I hope to someday meet your acquaintance.

Post Scriptum- The saying I use as my signature is the motto of the NYC Police Department, it hangs on a placard as you enter the academy building. As a cadet, you must come to attention under the Latin Phrase "Fidelis Ad Mortem" and salute the American flag and the statue of the policeman and child before entering the building. Being a Roman at heart my whole life and a American soldier, the motto became my trademark that I try to hold up to to family, friends and my fellow colleagues who depend on me to make sure they go home each night. As far as I know, the the only Fides, but thank you for noticing...




Manius Constantinus Serapio <mcserapio@...> wrote:
AVE M FLAVI FIDES

(Is Fides the 3rd or the 5th declension noun? I suppose the 5th one,
given you "Fidelis Ad Mortem" at the bottom of the mail but, well,
just to be sure! :-) )

> I am glad you are better, even though I do not know you...but I

see that you are the popular one. AVE! AVE! AVE!

I thank you but please do not exaggerate! :-) I for one didn't
expected such a warm welcome back, but I really am not the popular
one here! :-) Anyway, I learned one thing: if you want to become
popular, you shall start asking for some cake! <grinnnnn> :-)

OPTIME VALE
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Qvaestor



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MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS C.IVLIO MARIO S.P.D.

AVE,

Please permit me to be among the first to welcome you to NOVA ROMA.

I am confident that you will find that with Roman citizenship, there
are many aspects of Roman life that you can immerse yourself in.
There are many interest groups, activities and topics here that will
help you gain in your knowledge of ROMA AETERNA and allow you to
participate in Roman life. Just think, honourable MARIVS, living in
ROMA, you shall have the added bonus of being able to stroll the VIA
SACRA while pondering the revival of our Roman Republic! Certainly,
you will look at ROMA in such a way as the monuments to the RES
PVBLICA come to life.

Debate here can be lively, but please do not let that deter you - we
all hold ROMA dearly - but we are all human and sometimes this can
spill over our debates.

You will find that CIVES here are more than wiling to help if you
have any questions so just ask!

I wish you every success and most importantly enjoy yourself.

VALE

M. CALIDIVS GRACCHVS

TVVS IN SODILICIO RES PVBLICA ROMANAE

VERITS LVX MEA

nr_africa_septentrionalis@yahoogroups.com
http://www.geocities.com/africa_septentrionalis/index.html

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.IVL.MARIVS" <c_iul_marius@y...>
wrote:

> SALVETE
>
> with this post I want introduce myself.
> I'm a Nova Roma Citizen from April of this year. I'm very glad to

belong

> this community.
>
> I live in Italy and, more exactly, in Rome so, as you can imagine,

is very

> exciting for a native Roman join a group with this common interest.
>
> I have the fortune to see very often strong Roman symbols like the

Colosseo,

> Fori Romani, Acquedotto, Terme di Caracalla, Circo Massimo, Mura

Aureliane

> ... that visually testify the power of the ancient Empire.
>
> I wish a good work and a good luck for all Nova-Roman cives !
>
> VALETE
> C.IVL.MARIVS

AVE M FLAVI FIDES

> I agree, as my girth may suggest, cake is good!! I do have one

question, my friend...were you serious about garum on pears? I am
not very partial to fish in any form, I do love shrimp,
scallops,etc, etc. But garum on fruit? I am sorry, it does not
register to me.

Definitely serious! That's a roman recipes I tasted in a wonderful
restaurant in Rome which is called Magna Roma. The owner is an
archaeologist which has been studying Roman gastronomy for years, as
well as everything concerning Roman banqueting. I also was a bit
sceptical as to mixing pears and garum, but you can't imagine how
delicious it was!

> Good health and happiness to you, I hope to someday meet your

acquaintance.

And I reciprocate this hope! :-)

> Post Scriptum- The saying I use as my signature is the motto of

the NYC Police Department, it hangs on a placard as you enter the
academy building. As a cadet, you must come to attention under the
Latin Phrase "Fidelis Ad Mortem" and salute the American flag and
the statue of the policeman and child before entering the building.
Being a Roman at heart my whole life and a American soldier, the
motto became my trademark that I try to hold up to to family,
friends and my fellow colleagues who depend on me to make sure they
go home each night. As far as I know, the the only Fides, but thank
you for noticing...

Thanks for explaining :-)

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio

I, the policeman, salute you!



Manius Constantinus Serapio <mcserapio@...> wrote:
AVE M FLAVI FIDES

> I agree, as my girth may suggest, cake is good!! I do have one

question, my friend...were you serious about garum on pears? I am
not very partial to fish in any form, I do love shrimp,
scallops,etc, etc. But garum on fruit? I am sorry, it does not
register to me.

Definitely serious! That's a roman recipes I tasted in a wonderful
restaurant in Rome which is called Magna Roma. The owner is an
archaeologist which has been studying Roman gastronomy for years, as
well as everything concerning Roman banqueting. I also was a bit
sceptical as to mixing pears and garum, but you can't imagine how
delicious it was!

> Good health and happiness to you, I hope to someday meet your

acquaintance.

And I reciprocate this hope! :-)

> Post Scriptum- The saying I use as my signature is the motto of

the NYC Police Department, it hangs on a placard as you enter the
academy building. As a cadet, you must come to attention under the
Latin Phrase "Fidelis Ad Mortem" and salute the American flag and
the statue of the policeman and child before entering the building.
Being a Roman at heart my whole life and a American soldier, the
motto became my trademark that I try to hold up to to family,
friends and my fellow colleagues who depend on me to make sure they
go home each night. As far as I know, the the only Fides, but thank
you for noticing...

Thanks for explaining :-)

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio



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Fidelis Ad Mortem.

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G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Hannibal Barca and the Punic Wars":

http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm

This site, developed by Hilary Gowen, is an excellent amateur
introduction to the Punic Wars and their most prominent Carthaginian
general, including historical summaries of the wars, military
organisation and technology, prominent figures on both sides, and a
discussion of sources.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

In a message dated 9/4/03 1:25:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gfr@...
writes:

> This site, developed by Hilary Gowen, is an excellent amateur
> introduction to the Punic Wars and their most prominent Carthaginian
> general, including historical summaries of the wars, military
> organisation and technology, prominent figures on both sides, and a
> discussion of sources.
>

I know of Hilary, and helped her somewhat with the Carthaginian army pieces.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Salve Isidora Galeria
As dominus factionis veneta I wish to give you the warmest welcome to
the factio!. Habeas fortunam optimam in ludis circensibus!.
Cura ut valeas
L. Pompeius Octavianus
Dominus factionis Veneta


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marieaparsons" <khenmetaset@p...>
wrote:

> Ave, Dominus!
>
> I am a new cives in Nova Roma (apologies if I have not introduced
> myself more formally herein, I shall be happy to do so separately.)
>
> I joined the Factio Veneta, and have submitted a driver and chariot
> in to the Ludi. I only hope Rufinus forgets the pleasures of the
> grape and instead focuses on his training in the eastern stables of
> Araby *sighing*.
>
> Vale!
> Isidora Galeria
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel O. Villanueva"
> <danielovi@c...> wrote:
> > Salvete members of factio Veneta.
> > Remember that the deadline for the Ludi is September 6th!!!. I
> hope to meet you all at the Circus!!!
> > Bene valete et habeatis fortunam optimam.
> > L. Pompeius Octavianus
> > Dominus Factionis Veneta
> >
> >
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Date: Saturday October 18, 2003
Time: 6:00 pm - 1:00 am
Author: kaeso_maximius_tiberius
Type: Club Event
Reminder: There are reminders set for 2 days and 14 days before this
event.
Location: Westgate Community Association
Street: 4943 8th AVE SW
City/Province/Postal Code: Calgary Alberta Canada
Phone: Paul @ 242-4477 between 8 am and 5 pm mon to friday
Tickets are $25/person *email Tiberius@...* Doors open at 6
pm and goes till we drop. Includes Dinner, entertainment and 2
containers of wine one white one red. Refills available for $6.
Tables seat 6 people. There will be a 50/50 draw. Grape juices and
water will also be available. 2 Dancers are scheduled and gladiators
will be present again. Come vote for your favorite!!!!!!

Ave, Dominus!

Multissimas Gratias! I confess I am a bit nervous. My driver has
some experience, as has the horse, but this is their first race
together.

Ahh but seriously--I am nervous about how this works. I have
attended macro-life horse races and my feel my pulse race just
thinking about the event. :)

If I make it past the first race I may have to find a good Roman
recipe to celebrate even that success.

Vale bene!
Isidora Galeria

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus"
<danielovi@c...> wrote:

> Salve Isidora Galeria
> As dominus factionis veneta I wish to give you the warmest welcome

to

> the factio!. Habeas fortunam optimam in ludis circensibus!.
> Cura ut valeas
> L. Pompeius Octavianus
> Dominus factionis Veneta
>
>

C.Publicola omnibus salutem dicit plurimam

First, as there was a question, what variant of a latin pronunciation
can be named Nova-Roman officially?

Second, have we the Declaration of Nova Roma in Latin?

Valete

mailto:alexus1978@...

Salve C. IVL. MARIVS


Welcome Welcome

but we are envious ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you live in ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a TRUE ROMAN

Can we all come to your house for the weekend???????????????????????


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message -----
From: C.IVL.MARIVS
To: Nova-Roma Intl.
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Introduction


SALVETE

with this post I want introduce myself.
I'm a Nova Roma Citizen from April of this year. I'm very glad to belong
this community.

I live in Italy and, more exactly, in Rome so, as you can imagine, is very
exciting for a native Roman join a group with this common interest.

I have the fortune to see very often strong Roman symbols like the Colosseo,
Fori Romani, Acquedotto, Terme di Caracalla, Circo Massimo, Mura Aureliane
... that visually testify the power of the ancient Empire.

I wish a good work and a good luck for all Nova-Roman cives !

VALETE
C.IVL.MARIVS




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