Salus ex fortuna omnes,

My thanks to the magistrates of the year just past.

My blessing upon the magistrates for the upcoming year.

May That Which Is Holy Smile Upon Nova Roma.

In amicus sub fidelis - Venator

Salve Marinus

Give Paulina my best and I hope she has a quick recovery. My best to both of you for the New Year.

Vale

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Update


Salvete Quirites,

I hope you are all enjoying your preparations for the
New Year.

I've been occupied for most of the past two days with
hospitals, doctors, and waiting. My wife, Paulina
Gratidia, has a bad case of influenza that has developed
into pneumonia. She's currently in the hospital, and
they may keep her for another few days until she is in
fit shape to go home.

As you might guess, this has prevented me from having
much computer access. You folks can generate a LOT of
e-mail in a few days. I had some 240+ Nova Roma related
messages to wade through this morning, and I was feeling
lucky that I get some of my groups in digest format,
or the number would have been over 300.

AT this point, I've read through it all (and deleted
most of it). Will reply to a few items as time permits.

Valete,

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus




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Salve Nova Romans

On this, the the first day of IANVARIVS MMDCCLVII A.U.C.


I, Timothy Paul Gallagher, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to
honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten
its status as the State Religion.

I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus swear to protect and defend the Constitution of
Nova Roma.

I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Tribune of the Plebs to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Tribune of the Plebs and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Tribune 2757 A.U.C.
Fortuna Favet Fortibus


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Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

A few days ago, I humbly asked the Pontifex and Flamen Quirinalis C.
Iulius Scaurus to help me with the preparation of a simple ceremony
that could serve as a reflection of the traditional ceremony
performed by a newly elected consul in the dawn of the new year. I
did so with the desire to please the Gods so that they may bless Nova
Roma in the year that has just began.

This is the historical introduction prepared by C. Iulius Scaurus:

"In Roma antiqua on the pridie Kalendae Ianuarii, the Pontifex
Maximus would have convened the Comitia Curiata to vote imperium to
the incoming curule magistrates, effective as of the Kalends of
Ianuarius, setting the legal grounds for the inauguration of the new
consuls. Before daybreak on the Kalends of Ianuarius the senior
consul-elect rose and prepared to survey the skies for auspicia
oblativa as the pullarius conducted the tripudium which would
determine the auspices of new consulship shortly after dawn. If a
favourable tripudium resulted, the consul-elect would return home,
attire himself in the consular toga praetexta and receive clients,
well-wishers, and senators in his atrium until the hour for the
procession to the Capitoline hill arrived."

"Accompanied by an accensus and priests, followed by twelve lictores
with unaxed fasces, and the multitude who had joined him at his home,
the senior consul-elect led the procession, gathering masses of
onlookers into the parade, to the temple of Iuppiter Optimus Maximus
on the Capitoline. The sella curulis was carried before the
consul-elect as a symbol of his assumption of imperium. At the
temple the consul-elect sacrificed two white heifers from the
Faliscan plain who had never known the yoke to the Capitoline triad
-- Iuppiter, Iuno, and Minerva -- and to Salus pro salute rei
publicae et senatus, for the well-being of the republic and senate.
These heifers had been vowed to these Gods the previous year on the
Kalends of Ianuarius by the incoming consuls and at the conclusion of
the sacrifice, the consul-elect pronounced the votum -- the oath that
two such heifers would be sacrificed on the following Kalends of
Ianuarius. With this vow the lictores presented themselves before
the consul, who had by the vow become consul in fact, and led him to
the Curia for his first meeting of the Senate as consul.
Well-wishers would shower him with coins for good luck."

Unfortunately, it is (at least currently) impossible for us to follow
the original rite with precision, so C. Iulius Scaurus prepared an
alternative caerimoni composed from similar rituals. I followed his
instructions this very same morning, right before the dawn in Madrid
(around 07:30). This is what I did:

I bathed in preparation, then, garbed in toga praetexta, cinctu
Gabino, capite velato, I began the praefatio.

Praefatio

"Iane pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Ianus,
by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may
be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma." I
placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Mars,
by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may
be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I
placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father
Quirinus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so
that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova
Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for
the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a
libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering
to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of
this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the
patera on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for
the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a
libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

I washed my hands in preparation for the praecatio.

Precatio

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, qui res publicas Novas Romanas
nunc custodit defenditque perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum
Romanorum custodivit defenditque, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore
initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda
esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, who protects and
defends the public affairs of Nova Roma just as he protected and
defended the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper
for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake
of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured
a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, qui materne nunc Senatum Populumque Novae Romae
nutrit perinde ac Senatum Populumque Romanum in tempore patrum
nostrorum nutrivit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam
vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuno, queen
of the Gods, who maternally nurtures the Senate and People of Nova
Roma just as she nurtured the Senate and People of Rome in the time
of our fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in
this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be
honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the
patera on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, qui recte res publicas Novas Romanas
ducit perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum duxit, tibi
fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo
hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, who rightly
guides the public affairs of Nova Roma just as she rightly guided the
public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of
wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this
thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a
libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

Salus, benefactrix Senatus Populique Romani et fideiussorix salutis
nostrae, qui Novam Romam conservat perinde ac Romam antiquam
conservavit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini
dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Salus,
benefactor of the Roman Senate and People and guarantor of our
well-being, who preserves Nova Roma just as she preserved ancient
Rome, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time
of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this
feast offering]."

Again I washed my hands in preparation for the redditio.

Redditio

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda
esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of
the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be
honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuppiter Optimus Maximus
cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino
inferio esto [Iuno, queen of the Gods, may you be honoured by this
feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered
Iuno cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte
vino inferio esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, may you be honoured by
this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I
offered Minerva cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the focus of the
altar.

"Salus, benefactrix Novae Romae, macte istace dape pollucenda esto,
macte vino inferio esto [Salus, benefactrix of Nova Roma, may you be
honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble
wine.]" I offered Salus cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the
focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for
the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a
libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering
to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of
this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the
patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for
the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a
libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Dea Vesta, custos ignis sacri, macte vino inferio esto [Goddess
Vesta, guardian of the sacred fire, be honoured by this humble
wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the
altar.

"Illicet. [It is over.]"

I profaned wine and cakes, and I partook of the epulum with Iuppiter
Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus, praying as I ate and
offering libations in my private devotions.

Piaculum

Since the caerimonia of the consular sacrifice has yet to be
recovered from literary or archaeological sources and we are unable
to sacrifice two white heifers of the appropriate type, I concluded
with a piaculum to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Miverva, and Salus.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxmime, Iuno, Minerva et Salus, Di Immortales, si
quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc vino inferio veniam
peto et vitium meum expio [Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Minerva,
and Salus, Immortal Gods, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing
to you, with this humble wine I ask forgiveness and expiate my
fault.]" I poured a libation on the focus of the altar.

Votum

Ego, Cn. Salix Astur, Consul Novae Romae, sacrificium Dis
Immortalibus, Iovi, Iunoni, Minervae et Saluti pro salute rei
publicae et senatus in Kalendis posteris Ianuarii voveo [I, Cn. Salix
Astur, Consul of Nova Roma, vow a sacrifice to the Immortal Gods
Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus on the next Kalends of January]."

I hope that the Dii Immortales will bless Nova Roma and all her
citizens in this Annus Novus. Happy New Year to all.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

Ego, GNAEVS SALIX ASTVR (Rodrigo Álvarez), hoc ipso facto sollemniter
IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo
atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez),
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus
atque Romanas virtutes et ublica et privata vita persequi.

Ego, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez), Romanam religionem favere
et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam
agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti
capiat.

Praeterea ego, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez) IVRO quam
optime fungi officium muneris CONSULIS.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Consulis ACCIPIO una cum iuribus
privilegiis, munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In Hispania Provincia, Kalendas Ianuarii anno MMDCCLVII ad Urbe
condita.

---------------------------------------------------

I, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez), do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the People and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo
Álvarez), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez), swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez), swear to protect and defend
the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gnaeus Salix Astur (Rodrigo Álvarez), further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Consul to the best
of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Consul and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In the Province of Hispania, on the Kalends of Ianuarius of the year
2757 since the founding of the City.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 22:15, pompeia_cornelia wrote:

> ---
>
>
>
> Salve Frater:
>
> "The crazy world of Arthur Brown"?
>
> I have that album somewhere...
>
> gosh I haven't heard that mentioned in years. It's tucked away with
> my Black Sabbath, Cream, Jethro Tull, Deep Purple and CCR's (Now I'm
> dating myself:))
>

Salvete,
anyone (in England) remember Arthur Brown on TOTP? He had a helmet with
burning horns on it. About halfway through the song it got too hot and
he had to take it off and have it put out.Obviously something he'd done
before, I don't think.
<KERANNG>Why are 'Sabbath, Cream, 'Tull and 'Purple "tucked away"? I
still listen to their stuff all the time! (Well, not too much Tull as
they do get a bit quiet at times.) </END KERANNG>
Valete
Gaius Cornelius

Salvete Quirites!

Today I stand in front of the Gods of Rome and all citizens of Rome
to swear the oath of the office as Censor for two years to come. I
will certainly do my best in my capacity as Censor and I will always
listen to the Gods, the People and the Senate. I will also do my
outmost to cooperate with my colleague to be able to fulfill my
duties as Censor.


I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer
Edling) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (Christer Edling) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Censor
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Censor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Salvete Quirites,

Gnaeus Salix Astur wrote:

[...]

> Unfortunately, it is (at least currently) impossible for us to follow
> the original rite with precision, so C. Iulius Scaurus prepared an
> alternative caerimoni composed from similar rituals. I followed his
> instructions this very same morning, right before the dawn in Madrid
> (around 07:30).

[text of ceremony snipped, but cherished]

> Ego, Cn. Salix Astur, Consul Novae Romae, sacrificium Dis
> Immortalibus, Iovi, Iunoni, Minervae et Saluti pro salute rei
> publicae et senatus in Kalendis posteris Ianuarii voveo [I, Cn. Salix
> Astur, Consul of Nova Roma, vow a sacrifice to the Immortal Gods
> Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus on the next Kalends of January]."

As the Senior Consul, it is Astur's right and privilege to have
conducted this ceremony. I'm very, very pleased that he has done
so. As his colleague, I join in his promise to insure that next
year's Senior Consul or a designated representative will conduct
such a sacrifice to Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus on the next
Kalends of Ianuarius.

> I hope that the Dii Immortales will bless Nova Roma and all her
> citizens in this Annus Novus. Happy New Year to all.

So may it be. Thank you Astur.

Now I shall take my own Consular oath.

Valete Quirites!

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Civibus et Senatus Novae Romae Salutem Plurimam Dixit:


I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the
best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear
to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio
Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Consul to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Consul and all the rights, privileges, obligations,
and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne) hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper
pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego Gnaeus Equitius Marinus,
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae
temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita
persequi.

Ego Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Romanam religionem favere et defendere
IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut
eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego Gnaeus Equitius Marinus IVRO quam optime fungi officium
muneris Consuli.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus
et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Consuli ACCIPIO una cum
iuribus, privilegiis. munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In America Mediatlantica Provincia, Kal. Jaunarius, anno MMDCCLVII
A.V.C.

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Salve Druse,

Good man! Thanks for the answer on that question.

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus" <drusus@b...>
wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> Actually Blasphemy is a Jewish and Christian concept, not a Roman
> concept. The Only laws that the Romans had that were remotly

similar

> were on Sacrilege (Sacrilegum) which covered theft from a Temple,

and on

> Impiety of a magistrate ie the case of Claudius tossing the sacred
> chickens overboard when they didn't return the Auspices he desired.

In

> Imperial times the word Sacrilegum begain to be applied in common

usage

> in a manner approaching the Christian concept, but the popular use

of

> the word never was made a part of Roman law until after the

Christians

> took over.
>
> The attempts of people like Commodus and Caligula to compare

themselves

> to the Gods was Hubris, and the Immortals showed neither of them

favor

> because of it. Both were murdered at a young age.
>
> Brandon wrote:
>
> > I am also curious on this point but also wish to include Commodus
> > Antoninus in this question. As I recall he also saw himself as

one

> > of the gods in particular Hercules. The Capitoline Museum, if I
> > remember correctly, has the statue of him clad in a lions' skin,
> > bearing the apples representing eternal life, and holding

Hercules'

> > club. The way the story goes the two seperate figures on each

side

> > held up a cloth over him making him the center of the universe. To
> > me if anything would be considered blasphemy against the Roman

gods

> > surely this would have been. I am still anxious to hear the reply
> > to these questions. Valete Brandon
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus

(Michael

> > Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:
> > > Salvete omnes,
> > >
> > > I have a question here for some of our Religio Romano experts.
> > After
> > > the Republic, there was a succession of emperors some of which
> > > eventually became Gods in status either living or dead. I have
> > never
> > > been clear about this because my information comes partly from
> > > fiction in books, movies and what I learned from a Judeo -
> > Christian
> > > background. Here are my questions:
> > >
> > > 1) Did deification of heros or Roman leaders occur before

Imperial

> > > Rome for any character of that time?
>
> Yes but it was far rarer than in Greece. Romulus is the most noted

example.

>
> >
> > >
> > > 2) Did Caligula who wanted to be regarded as a living god with
> > > statues erected to him technically blaspheme the gods?
>
> No. It is a Christian Concept. His Hubris was offensive to the Gods

and

> he paid for it with his life.
>
> >
> > >
> > > 3) Do or did priests of the Religio Romano actually have powers

on

> > > earth yet a connection to the gods to deify an emperor or a

great

> > > living or dead human, and is that process similar to the way the
> > > Vatican, for example makes a person a saint. Do you see any
> > > connections?
>
> No. Defication consisted of the Senate voting that the new cult

would be

> added to the offical cults of the state.
>
> > >
> > > 4) Was an emperor really considered a living god similar to the
> > > Pharoes of Egypt or kings of the Mayans or Aztecs or was this

more

> > > symbolic, tying the gods to the state of Rome?
> > >
>
> No. Each man had a Genius (Women had a Juno) which was the devine
> spirit in humans. The Emperor's Genius, NOT the person himself was
> worshiped in the Imperial cult. This is similar to the worship of

the

> Genius of the Paterfamilias in the domestic cult.
>
> L. Sicinius Drusus

Salve omnes !
Thank you very much for the link :)
Do I have to build a Lararium ? or can it be done with something else ?
thanks for help.
CAIVS MINIVS DRACO
CVRATOR ARANEVM MINIVM
CIVIS THVLAE PROVINCIAE
CIVIS PLEBIAE NOVAE ROMAE OPTIMA MAXIMA

Brandon wrote:

> I am also curious on this point but also wish to include Commodus
> Antoninus in this question. As I recall he also saw himself as one
> of the gods in particular Hercules. The Capitoline Museum, if I
> remember correctly, has the statue of him clad in a lions' skin,
> bearing the apples representing eternal life, and holding Hercules'
> club. The way the story goes the two seperate figures on each side
> held up a cloth over him making him the center of the universe. To
> me if anything would be considered blasphemy against the Roman gods
> surely this would have been. I am still anxious to hear the reply
> to these questions. Valete Brandon
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
> Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > I have a question here for some of our Religio Romano experts.
> After
> > the Republic, there was a succession of emperors some of which
> > eventually became Gods in status either living or dead. I have
> never
> > been clear about this because my information comes partly from
> > fiction in books, movies and what I learned from a Judeo -
> Christian
> > background. Here are my questions:
> >
> > 1) Did deification of heros or Roman leaders occur before Imperial
> > Rome for any character of that time?
> >
> > 2) Did Caligula who wanted to be regarded as a living god with
> > statues erected to him technically blaspheme the gods?
> >
> > 3) Do or did priests of the Religio Romano actually have powers on
> > earth yet a connection to the gods to deify an emperor or a great
> > living or dead human, and is that process similar to the way the
> > Vatican, for example makes a person a saint. Do you see any
> > connections?
> >
> > 4) Was an emperor really considered a living god similar to the
> > Pharoes of Egypt or kings of the Mayans or Aztecs or was this more
> > symbolic, tying the gods to the state of Rome?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your points of view.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Quintus Lanius Paulinus
>
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Salve omnes
Do you know where I can find real roman music or at least modern songs
in Latin. No christian
things of course.
thx for help.
VALE IN PACE DEORUM

CAIVS MINIVS DRACO
CVRATOR ARANEVM MINIVM
CIVIS THVLAE PROVINCIAE
CIVIS PLEBIAE NOVAE ROMAE OPTIMA MAXIMA


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Salvete citizens,

The New Year has begun in Germania Inferior with a blanket of rarely seen white snow covering the
flatlands, which seems to have the effect of washing away the dust and dirt of last year and
making everything pure and clean once again. To me at least, this is a good omen.

In the spirit of a new beginning that a new year always brings I wold like to offer this olive
branch to a few citizens whom I disagreed with last year, sometimes specifically in my capacity as
a Tribune:

Franciscus Apulus, Cordus, Scaevola, Pompeia Cornelia, Tullia, Titus Octavius, Gn. Marinus and in
particular our new Censor C Fabius whom I sometimes disagreed with politically while always
maintaining that I find him to be a true gentleman.

It's a new year ladies & gentlemen and for my part I am starting over and will not let any baggage
from the last year reflect in the way I interact with you during this coming year.

Valete,

Diana Moravia

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Salvete,

I wish that 2004 be a grand and wonderful year for Nova Roma and everyone
within it's "boundaries'. Please be well, take care, and have much love in your
life from now on and always! May the Gods be with us.

Valete,

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up.
It's how I feel as well. Enjoy it. :)

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Julilla Sempronia Magna Quiritibus S.P.D

Ego, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl) hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae
Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistrata ego Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette
Urdahl) Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus
atque Romanas virtutes et publica et privata vita
persequi.

Ego Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl) Romanam religionem
favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam
agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl) IVRO quam
optime fungi officium muneris Tribuni.

Mea Novae Romae civa honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus et
eorum voluntate et favore, munus Tribuni accipio una cum iuribus,
privilegiis munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.

In America Boreoccidentalis Provincia, Kal. Ian. MMDCCLVII A.V.C.
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I, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette
Urdahl), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl), swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl), swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara La Follette Urdahl), further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Tribuna Plebis
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Tribuna Plebis and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

In America Boreoccidentalis Provincia, Kal. Ian. MMDCCLVII A.V.C.


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I Gaius Modius Athanasius (David O. Kling, Jr.), do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I Gaius Modius Athanasius (David O. Kling,
Jr.), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to
pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gaius Modius Athanasius (David O. Kling, Jr.), swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gaius Modius Athanasius (David O. Kling, Jr.), swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Modius Athanasius (David O. Kling, Jr.), further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Tribune of the Plebs to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Tribune of the Plebs and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.


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I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus (Klemens Edler), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as
the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of
Nova Roma.

I, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Praetor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Praetor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

Vindobona, Kal Ian MMDCCLVII AUC (Vienna, the 1st of January 2004)

--
Optime valete!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus

Oath of Office, Praetor
Kal Ian MMDCCLVII


I, Marcus Arminius Maior (Marcos Boehme), do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Arminius
Maior, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome
in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues
in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Arminius Maior, swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of
Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Marcus Arminius Maior, swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Arminius Maior, further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Praetor to thebest of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Praetor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Vale
Marcus Arminius Maior

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I, Gaia Fabia Livia (Rachel Dugdale), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold
the honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaia Fabia Livia, swear to honour the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the
State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour, do I accept
the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.

Livia Cornelia Hibernia Quiritibus S.P.D.

Ego, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters), hoc ipso facto
sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae
Romae Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego, Livia Cornelia Hibernia
(Linda Gail Walters), Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus
publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et
privata vita persequi.

Ego, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters), Romanam
religionem favere et defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae
religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis
aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters) IVRO
quam optime fungi officium muneris Quaestoris.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque
deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Quaestoris accipio una
cum iuribus privilegiis, munera atque officia quae meum munus
comportat.

In Provincia California, KAL. IAN. MMDCCLVII A.V.C.

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I, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the
best interests of the People and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Livia Cornelia Hibernia
(Linda Gail Walters), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome
in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public
and private life.

I, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters), swear to uphold
and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma
and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as
the State Religion.

I, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters), swear to protect
and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (Linda Gail Walters), further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

In the Province of California, on the Kalends of Ianuarius of the
year 2757 since the founding of the City.

Livia Cornelia Hibernia

Salvete Quirites!

I am very happy to Congratulate Italia Provincia, Propraetor
Illustris Franciscus Apulus Caesar and the citizens of Roma Aeterna
to acknowledement of Urbs Roma!

As the Consul who proposed this legislation and who could see it
executed on the last day of my Consulat, I am extremly happy to be
able to say that Urbs Romana is founded during my Consulship and that
Roma Aeterna was the first city to found a local group accordning to
my lex. Thank You and Congratulations!

Long live the eternal City!!!
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Salvete Accensi Magni!

Illustra Patricia Cassia, Illustra Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, Illustris
Gnaeus Salix Astur, Illustris Decius Iunius Palladius and Illustris
Marcus Arminius Maior worked very hard in my Consilium Accensorum
Magnorum (the Council of Major Assistants, called CAM) as my Accensi
Magni (major advisors) during my Consulship.

This was done by all with a seriousness that was very important to
me. Some of the Accensi Magni were my opponents in some fields, still
they did a very good job, as did everybody, in the Consilium. I think
that it is a good idea for a Consul to have such a mixed group, of
very competent citizens consisting of both allies and opponents, to
help the Consul to keep his eyes open to all aspects of the issues
that the Consul will have to meet during his term. To me the idea to
have such a Consilium has proven it worth through the five Accensi
Magni in the CAM.

I found that You all became my friends if You hadn't been such
before! Now I thank You from the bottom of my heart for the splendid
advises You gave me and wish You every Luck in the future!

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Salve Illustra Patricia Cassia!

I feel that I must Thank You publicly for the huge amount of work You
have done for me as the Vicaria Officinae Aerarii (Deputy Head of the
Financial Office) when my Quaestoir Illustri Sextus Apollonius Scipio
become ill during late spring. You had already done a great job
assisting Sextus Apollonius Scipio in the Officina Aerarii. Now You
after that I had asked You to take over most of the duties as my
Quaestor without having that title. You also did some coordination
job with the other Consular Quaestor Illustris Gnaeus Octavius
Noricus.

You did a great job and saved my day and keept the ship sailing very
proudly. Added to the work in Officina Aerari., You also worked as
the Praeses in the Consilium Accensorum Magnorum (the Council of
Major Assistants). There You were very active and took the position
as Praeses (Chairman).

I thank You from the bottom of my heart for the splendid work You did
and the very good advises You gave me!
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

A. Apollonius Cordus to all citizens and peregrines,
greetings.

I, A. Apollonius Cordus (J. K. Johnston), do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honour of Nova Roma, and
to act always in the best interests of the People and
the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, A. Apollonius Cordus,
swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my
public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my
public and private life.

I, A. Apollonius Cordus, swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma
and swear never to act in a way that would threaten
its status as the State Religion.

I, A. Apollonius Cordus, swear to protect and defend
the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, A. Apollonius Cordus, further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of
rogator to the best of my abilities.

On my honour as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman People
and by their will and favour, do I accept the position
of rogator and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


In London, in the province of Britain, on the first of
January, 2757 AUC.

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Ego A. Apollonius Cordus (J. K. Johnston) hoc ipso
facto sollemniter IVRO Novae Romae decus defendere et
semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego A. Apollonius Cordus
Romae deos deasque colere IVRO in omnibus publicae
vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et publica et
privata vita persequi.

Ego A. Apollonius Cordus Romanam religionem favere et
defendere IVRO ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem
et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae
religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego A. Apollonius Cordus IVRO quam optime
fungi officium muneris rogatoris.

Meo Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani
deis atque deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus
rogatoris ACCIPIO una cum iuribus, privilegiis. munera
atque officia quae meum munus comportat.


In Londinio, in Britannia Provincia, Kal. Ian.
MMDCCLVII AUC.

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A. Apollonius Cordus to Priestess Diana Moravia
Aventina and all citizens and peregrines, greetings.

I receive your olive branch with thanks, and return
the offer likewise.

There, a specially short message to show my goodwill! ;)

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Salve,
For those of you that enjoy great the great classical literature of
ancient Rome you might be interested in ebay. Currently there is a
man with a very large selection of classics published by the Loeb
Classical Library for Seneca, Horace, Cicero, Lucan, Dio Cassius,
Titus Livius, Marcus Aurelius, and Ovidius should anyone be
interested. Just a notice to anyone interested I am in no way
affiliated with the sellers. Valete Brandon

Salvete Quirites, et Salve Diana,

Diana Moravia wrote:

> In the spirit of a new beginning that a new year always brings I wold
> like to offer this olive branch to a few citizens whom I disagreed
> with last year [...]

> ... Gn. Marinus

Thank you Diana. No olive branch seems necessary to me, as I've always
felt we were both interested in the same ultimate goals. But I shall
gladly accept it from you since you offer it. We have at times been
opponents, but never enemies.

May all good things come to you this year, and may we all be able to
enjoy the blessings of Concordia.

Valete,

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interestsof
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco
Valenzano] swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Tribunus Plebis to the
best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Tribunus Plebis and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.


Franciscus Apulus Caesar
------------------------------
NOVA ROMA
------------------------------
Senator
Senior Curule Aedile - http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/
Tribunus Plebis 2757
Propraetor Italiae - http://italia.novaroma.org
Scriba et Accensus
Pater Familiae Gens Apula - http://italia.novaroma.org/apula/
Vicarius Academiae Italicae - http://italia.novaroma.org/academiaitalica/

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interestsof
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco
Valenzano] swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Franciscus Apulus Caesar [Francesco Valenzano] further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Senator to the best of
my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Senator and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.


Franciscus Apulus Caesar
------------------------------
NOVA ROMA
------------------------------
Senator
Senior Curule Aedile - http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/
Tribunus Plebis 2757
Propraetor Italiae - http://italia.novaroma.org
Scriba et Accensus
Pater Familiae Gens Apula - http://italia.novaroma.org/apula/
Vicarius Academiae Italicae - http://italia.novaroma.org/academiaitalica/

I, Gregory Rose/Gaius Iulius Scaurus do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gregory Rose/Gaius Iulius Scaurus
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gregory Rose/Gaius Iulius Scaurus swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to
act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gregory Rose/Gaius Iulius Scaurus swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gregory Rose/Gaius Iulius Scaurus further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Aedilis Curulis to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Aedilis Curulis and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

May the Di Immortales bless, preserve, and protect Nova Roma!

Given in the province of America Austroccidentalis on the Kalendae
Ianuarii in the consulship of Cn. Salix Astur and Gn. Equitius Marinus.

Salve, Moravia Aventina


Pity I don't get this olive branch offering. I guess that holding no magistracy for this year is a sort of requirement I don't acomplish for such gift. :-)

However, I wish you the best on your run for being a Senatrix, although some people believe that Nova Roma is a sort of "Popular contest". :-)

Best luck for all the new magistrates this year, and the very best to any singular citizen of Nova Roma. As a friend of mine said once, I wish you all that the worst that could happen to you this year will be at least equal to the very best you lived last year. :-)


vale bene in pace deorum,

L·DIDIVS·GEMINVS·SCEPTIVS


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 18:16:18 +0000 (GMT)
From: Diana Moravia <sacerdosveneris@...>
Subject: 2757 begins!

Salvete citizens,

The New Year has begun in Germania Inferior with a blanket of rarely seen white snow covering the
flatlands, which seems to have the effect of washing away the dust and dirt of last year and
making everything pure and clean once again. To me at least, this is a good omen.

In the spirit of a new beginning that a new year always brings I wold like to offer this olive
branch to a few citizens whom I disagreed with last year, sometimes specifically in my capacity as
a Tribune:

Franciscus Apulus, Cordus, Scaevola, Pompeia Cornelia, Tullia, Titus Octavius, Gn. Marinus and in
particular our new Censor C Fabius whom I sometimes disagreed with politically while always
maintaining that I find him to be a true gentleman.

It's a new year ladies & gentlemen and for my part I am starting over and will not let any baggage
from the last year reflect in the way I interact with you during this coming year.

Valete,

Diana Moravia


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Salve,

That sounds very interesting. I have very limited works on any of those
authors. Would you mind sending me the sellers name etc? I am on e-bay a lot. I
am interested in purchasing.

BENE.VALE.
I.MANERE.IN.AMORA.DI.ROMA.
ET.FORTIS.IN.FIDE.
GNAEVS.SCRIBONIVS.SCRIPTOR.
DI.NOVA.ROMA.ET.LEGIO.XXIV.MA.
ET.LVDVS.MAGNVS.GLADIATORE.


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Salve Diana,

thank you very much, I appreciate your olive branch and your peaceful act.
I live in front of 25 km of olive trees and I love it as natural thing and
for what it means. My region (Apulia) is a land of peace, because it's the
bridge between Occident and Orient.
The olive branch means peace and it's a good thing. However, yes I disagreed
with some of your opinions but never there was war between us. I think the
political and correct opposition is a good thing, it means freedom and
growing of an organization. You know that I appreciate you and your skills,
you was a wonderful Tribune and one of the most passionated Magistrated.
Sometimes we worked togheter or talked about with a lovable tone. This is
enough for me to say that I'm not fighting with you and even there was
peace. :-)

At the end, thank you again, I wish you a wonderful year of peace and joy.

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar

Edictum Aedilicium Perpetuum

In order to ensure continuity in the regulation of the Macellum and
fair business practices I issue the following edictum until M. Iulius
Perusianus and I can consult and issue our own edicta on such matters.

I. The edicta of Fr. Apulus Caesar and M. Equitius Marinus on matters
pertaining to the Macellum and fair business practices shall remain in
effect until further notice.

II. This edictum shall take effect immediately.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis

Given on the Kalendae Ianuarii in the consulship of Cn. Salix Astur
and Gn. Equitius Marinus.

Salve Sceptius,

<Pity I don't get this olive branch offering.

Uh well that is because I never felt that we were having a serious disagreement. I thought that we
were colleagues working together and just not agreeing on one word in one law proposal. The end
result was that all the Tribunes ended up supporting the proposal 100% and it was happily voted in
by the CPlebT.

But if you feel that we were really disagreeing with things (and like I said I only recall the one
disagreement about one word!), then the olive branch goes to you as well :-)

<However, I wish you the best on your run for being a Senatrix, although some people believe that
<Nova Roma is a sort of "Popular contest". :-)

Well it is based on that a bit. But one becomes popular by working hard.

Vale,
Diana



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G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

In addition to the usual aedilician duties I have decided to provide a
service to our citizens in the form of a daily announcement of civic
and religious festivals (feriae) regardless of whether their are
accompanied by public games or not.

Today is the Kalendae Ianuarii and the date of the festivals (feriae)
of the Anno Novo, the Vediovae, and Aesculapio. The day is fastus.

In Roma antiqua a sacrifice to Iuno and Ianus was made by a Pontifex
and the Rex Sacrorum in the Comitia Calabra after which the Pontifex
would announce the date of the Nonae Ianuarii. Shortly thereafter the
Regina Sacrorum made sacrifice to Iuno in the Regia

The Vediovae was the anniversary of the dedication of the temple of
Vediovis (sometimes called Veiovis) on the island of the Tiber.
Vediovis is an aspect of Iuppiter in relation to the Di Inferni upon
whose propitiation an auspicious new year was dependent. A sacrifice
to this chthonic aspect of the deity was made by the Flamen Dialis.

The feria of Aesculapio commemorated the anniversary of the dedication
of the temple of Aesculapius on the island of the Tiber in 291 BCE in
accordance with the instructions of the Sybilline Books. Offerings to
Aesculapius were made for the health and safety of the republic,
families, and individuals.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Campanaio, Sicily: A Geophysical Survey 1995":

http://csweb.bournemouth.ac.uk/consci/sicily/

This is a detailed site report on the geophysical evaluation of a
Roman rural settlement in Sicily with illustrations.

In piaculo for premature meeting of the terms of my vow to Venus
Genetrix, I offer the following link:

"Silchester Roman Town: The Insula IX 'Town Life' Project":

http://www.silchester.rdg.ac.uk/

This site contains a detailed description of the Univ. of Reading's
excavations of an insula in Silchester, including the 2003 season.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salvete Luci Pompei et collegae! Salvette cives novae Romae!


I Have been silent for quite some time now as I have been underwater
at work and also literally in a dive resort in the Southern
Philippines for the past few months and weeks.

I wish all new magistrates and Senators luck for their time in
office. From my experience here they will need it for a bipartisan
success story!

I thank all my former colleagues in the Academia and on the
Tribunician bench. It has been a privilege working with all of you!
As of 1st January I fulfill no more official function in Nova Roma!

Unfortunately I will not be able to participate much in Nova Roma
affairs this year (good news to some, I know) as my macronational
duties have increased substantially. Nonetheless I will have a peek
or two on the mainlist every week if I can.

Ad multos annos

Marcus Marcius Rex
Citizen

Edictum Aedilicium Perpetuum

In order to ensure continuity in the regulation of the Macellum and
fair business practices I issue the following edictum until M. Iulius
Perusianus and I can consult and issue our own edicta on such matters.

I. The edicta of Fr. Apulus Caesar and Gn. Equitius Marinus on matters
pertaining to the Macellum and fair business practices shall remain in
effect until further notice.

II. This edictum shall take effect immediately.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis

Given on the Kalendae Ianuarii in the consulship of Cn. Salix Astur
and Gn. Equitius Marinus.

I, Marcus Bianchius Antonius (Gregory A. Dunn), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of its citizens and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Bianchius Antonius, swear to honor the gods and goddesses of Roma in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Bianchius Antonius, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Marcus Bianchius Antonius, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Bianchius Antonius, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the gods and goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.




Marcus Bianchius Antonius
Propraetor, The Great Provincia Lacus Magni
Paterfamilias, gens Bianchia
Quaestor, Nova Roma

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Ex Officio Praetorium

EDICTVM PRAETORICIVM DE MODERATIONE

The praetores of Nova Roma hereby define the guidelines for
appropriate usage of Nova Roma's public communication forum, currently
located at:
Nova_Roma@yahoogroups.com

These guidelines are based on the guidelines previously issued by
our predecessors (Pompeia Cornelia and Patricia Cassia). As praetores
of Nova Roma, though, we keep the right to change these guidelines in
the future.

I. The Nova Roma forum (herein referred to as 'the list') is set up
so that replies will automatically be sent to the entire list. Please
keep this in mind when you are replying. You are not issuing a
private email. If your reply is intended for only one member, and has
no benefit to the rest of the list subscribers, consider sending it
privately.

II. Posts that merely voice agreement with a previous post without
expanding on an issue in any way are discouraged.

III. Please trim your posts. When replying to a thread, snip
unnecessary sections of the original post for brevity, and indicate
where you have done so by printing <snipped> at the appropriate space.
Correct usage of snipping prevents large posts that can quickly fill
subscribers mailboxes

IV. If you feel you must dispute or criticize another person's post,
consider doing so in private.
Sometimes a person makes a genuine mistake, and your gentle correction
via private email means much more to them than potentially
embarrassing them in the forum over what is an innocent error. We know
that during political debates, private exchanges are impractical.
Please use discretion in this area.

V. It is entirely appropriate to disagree publicly with another's
stated views or another's actions as they report such, or with the
actions of Nova Roma's Magistrates, Senate or otherwise appointed
officials.
Nova Roma is an organization of individuals from a wide variety of
nations, religions, cultural backgrounds and political viewpoints, and
it is only reasonable that our views should differ.

Please consider the following when expressing disagreement of opposing
viewpoints:

* Express respect for the person and the entitlement to his opinion,
and faith in his or her good intentions.

* Point out any themes in which you do not agree.

* If in the criticism of a person's actions, perhaps in the capacity
of a magistrate or senator, point out specifically which actions you
are referring to. Quote the message number of the post in
which you base your account and opinions. This makes things more
objective and often helpful to the person in question, as to what,
specifically, you are referring to, and your issues with same.

* In an academic debate, endeavor to offer references to back up your
assertions.

* At all times maintain politeness in the expression of your opinion
and endeavour to respect the rights and opinions of others.

Inappropriate behaviour includes:

the use of profane language; misrepresentation of the truth for the
purpose of making another person look foolish; calling others names;
criticizing a poster's personal character as opposed to criticizing his
ideas; making derrogatory, belittling, subjective statements about the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome (quoting from a myth does not apply) or
belittling deities of other religions for entertainment. Further, in
the interests of those under 18, sexual references must be strictly
within the context of an historical discussion. Otherwise, they are to
be made in private.

The arbitrary advertisment of goods and services (SPAM) is not
permitted on the Nova Roma mainlist, unless the advertiser is a member
of Nova Roma's marketplace, the Macellum. Macellum merchants are
welcome to advertise from time to time in a low-key fashion. This
entails a signature line/file, a one-time announcement of initial
affiliation with the Macellum, advertising in response to a post of
inquiry made in the forum, or an ad once every three months or so
advertising your presence in the Macellum.

VI. If you feel that a post is inappropriate in any way, consider
mailing the individual concerned privately, explaining your rationale
for grievance and asking for clarification"

If you would like to talk to us confidentially about a particular
post, please contact us at praetors@... .

VII: During the time leading up to elections (held each November and
occasionally at other times if offices become vacant) this list is one
of the forums where candidates express their views and present their
qualifications to the populace. All of the strictures governing
appropriate behaviour mentioned hereto, shall remain in place and
apply to all candidates and their supporters.

VIII: Please do not give out personal information (i.e., address or
phone number) to the list. While it would be pleasant to believe we
are all good-hearted and sane, we are not; you cannot trust in that.

IX: Due to the influxes of SPAM and past incidents of posts from
those who wish nothing but to cause disruption and insult to the list,
or particular subscribers of the list, to wit, TROLLS, it has become
necessary to place all new list members on Moderated Status, just
until we are satisfied that such persons are indeed here to celebrate
aspects of Roma Antiquita and Nova Roma, as opposed to being here for
unjustifiable reasons. This is unfortunate, but it has proved
necessary.

X: Language Policies

The forum of Roma Antiquita was a large venue, with people of
different languages conversing, a few in this corner, a few in that
corner.
Rome was a very mulicultured place in her glory. Mind you official
information was in Latin, and in some cases Greek, but people were
free to speak informally as they wished in the language of their
choice.
Our constitution mandates freedom of communication provided it is not
dangerous or disruptive.

Currently, the praetores can understand Latin, Spanish, French,
Italian and Portuguese, so messages in those languages are most
welcome. For other languages, help can be obtained from the decuria of
interpreters of Nova Roma.

Thanks to the decuria of interpreters and to several magistrates or
legates who are willing to assist with list moderation, 'informal'
communication in the forum is open to most main languages. Feel free
to post in English, Latin, Italian, Portugese, Spanish, Fench, German,
Russian, Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish or any Slavik language. The
Praetors have many to thank for efforts in this regard.

***Exception: This does not contravene the Lex Cornelia de Linguis
Publicus
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/lege/index/html
which stipulates, though comitial mandate, that any offical government
legislation or priestly decrees must be issued in English or Latin
where applicable, so they can be translated verbatim into other
languages to be more easily understood by the entirety of the
populace.

XI. Topics of Discussion

The main focus of this list is Nova Roma and Roma Antiqua. However,
as members of a diverse international community we all have lives and
interests outside of Nova Roma. It is perfectly acceptable to discuss
non-Roman topics here, though keep in mind that not everyone may
share your interest in these topics.

XII: The Praetors have the imperium to govern the list, but prefer to
encourage positive interaction as opposed to punishing negative
behaviour. In the case of a poster whose actions violate these
guidelines aforementioned, the following escalated courses of
action shall be taken:

1.- A private memo from the Praetors' office or a Scribal designate,
stating the incident of infraction, and a reminder to review the
guidelines. Often people who are new to the list are not intentionally
trying to upset anybody.

2.- Another private memo as above.

3.- Moderated status (the poster may post but all posts
they issue are first reviewed by the Praetors or their designate).
The length of moderation shall be determined by the number of offences
in the past, the severity of the violation, and the intent to violate.
No citizen shall be kept in moderate status for more than 2 (two)
months
without a firm sentence issued by a legal court as described by the
Lex Salicia Iudiciaria:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-11-24-iii.html

(For example: Nobody is going to be placed on moderated status for an
extended time for failure to trim posts or for saying 'me too')



Gnaeus Salix Astur,
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Praetores

Sales et Fortuna Omnes,

Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus scripsit:

As a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby
witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium (the power, stemming
from the approval of the People by their votes, to carry out official
duties as specified in the Constitution and other Edicts, and to uphold
the Laws of Nova Roma) to the properly elected Magistrates of Nova Roma
for the Current Era year of 2004, which lays across the Years of the
City 2756 and 2757.

As a Lictor of Nova Roma, I likewise acknowledge Imperium for the
reconfirmed and newly named Provincial Magistrates, including those who
may be appointed during the coming year.

In Honor of the Holy Ones of Roma Antiqua et Nova, I ask Their Blessing
upon all our new magistrates. May my Northern Holy Ones likewise smile
upon Nova Rome, as all Tribal Peoples build the strengths of Mankind.

May all the new Magistrates, of Nation and Province, receive Wisdom and
Guidance from That Which They Hold Holy, to further the increase of
Romanitas. May the Sacred Bond between the Holy and the Profane build
Favor for the future of Nova Roma (our Senate, our Magistrates, our
People, our Life) in the coming year and in the future.

--
May the Holy Powers smile on our efforts.
May the Spirits of our family lines nod in approval.
May we be of Worth to our fellow Nova Romans.

In amicus sub fidelis
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Lictor pro Nova Roma
Cives et Paterfamilias
Religio Septentrionalis et Poet

Living a worthy life need not be complicated at all.
Honor the Holy Powers in word and deed.
Honor your Family and Forebears.
Give heed to knowledge and skill.
Attempt to do that which is Right;
with Wisdom, Generosity and Personal Honor.
Read, Write, Love, Laugh, Hate, Cry, Cook, Build,
Sit quietly with family enjoying the birds flying by;
just be the best of that for which you are capable as a Man.
Remember that everything you do adds to the weight of your Past,
for Good or Ill. - Venii

INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM

I, Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a
member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the
passing of Imperium - the power to carry out elected duties and
uphold the laws - to the duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the
year 2757 AUC.

As a Lictor of Nova Roma I also recognize Imperium for all prorogued
and newly appointed Provincial Praetors of Nova Roma, and also
recognize that Imperium which may be bestowed upon those Provincial
Praetors or appointed during the course of the coming year."

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the
Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to
use their Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas and the
Religio Romana. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and
our Citizens in this coming year.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa), do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of its citizens and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko
Sillanpaa), swear to honor the gods and goddesses of Roma in my
public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and
private life.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa), swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa), swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Caius Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpaa), further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
gods and goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
--

Caius Curius Saturninus

Quaestor
Legatus Regionis Finnicae
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Praeses et Triumvir Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
www.insulaumbra.com/regiofinnica
www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules
gsm: +358-50-3315279
fax: +358-9-8754751

<Ex Officio Praetorium

<EDICTVM PRAETORICIVM DE MODERATIONE

<The praetores of Nova Roma hereby define the guidelines for
<appropriate usage of Nova Roma's public communication forum, currently
<located at:
<Nova_Roma@yahoogroups.com

<Gnaeus Salix Astur,
<Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
<Praetores

Unless he staggered up in the middle of the night, hung this up in the Forum as a joke and then
went to bed, I don't think that our Proconsul extraordinaire Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus sent
this post Ex-Officio as a Praetor because I've just peaked over at him and he is out cold sleeping
off the inauguration party in his villa on the Pallatine surrounded by piles of soft pillows and
dark-haired slave girls from Greece. :-)

Vale,
Diana





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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@w...> wrote:

> In addition to the usual aedilician duties I have decided to
> provide a service to our citizens in the form of a daily
> announcement of civic and religious festivals (feriae) regardless
> of whether their are accompanied by public games or not.

Thank you very much for providing us this information, pontifex.
I still remember the time when your colleague and my co-provincial,
the honoured pontifex A. Gryllus Graecus, posted everyday on the
calendrical events of the day to this very same list. He had to
discontinue that excellent service because of his lack of time, and I
have missed it very much since then.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

I, Gnaeus Salix Astur, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the
Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of
Imperium - the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws -
to the duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2757 AUC.

As a Lictor of Nova Roma I also recognize Imperium for all prorogued
and newly appointed Provincial Praetors of Nova Roma, and also
recognize that Imperium which may be bestowed upon those Provincial
Praetors or appointed during the course of the coming year.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the
Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to
use their Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May
this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this
coming year.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

Ahh it is so nice to have someone posting that is also in the Roman time zone :-)

Salix said:

<Thank you very much for providing us this information, pontifex.

I'm breaking the list rules as recently sent in the edict by the Praetores by saying 'me too' (but
since it was signed by last years Praetores I don't think it was valid ha ha !!)

Thank you Scaurus! You're the best! I think that all of us are going to learn a great deal from
you this year.

Vale,
Diana Moravia




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Salve Honorable Diana Moravia!

To me You have always been a personal friend and we have exchanged
more than a few mails about private situations. Even if we often seem
to have disagreed during the last year there is no need to give any
olive branch to me. But of course I will accept it as a personal gift
in the spirit that it was given.

>In the spirit of a new beginning that a new year always brings I
>wold like to offer this olive
>branch to a few citizens whom I disagreed with last year, sometimes
>specifically in my capacity as
>a Tribune:
>
>Franciscus Apulus, Cordus, Scaevola, Pompeia Cornelia, Tullia, Titus
>Octavius, Gn. Marinus and in
>particular our new Censor C Fabius whom I sometimes disagreed with
>politically while always
>maintaining that I find him to be a true gentleman.
>
>It's a new year ladies & gentlemen and for my part I am starting
>over and will not let any baggage
>from the last year reflect in the way I interact with you during
>this coming year.
>
>Valete,
>
>Diana Moravia

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Salve,

This sounds like a wonderful idea, I look forward to it.

Is there anything that can be done for those in other time zones though? I got this email about the Kalends of January and it's the 2nd down under. Is there anyone in this time zone with the experience to perhaps help out?

Vale.

O. Flavius Pompeius




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Edictum Praetoricium

I. The edictum of Cn. Salix Astur and D. Iunius Palladius concerning the
guidelines for the Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com list, issued on 2003-01-30
(http://novaroma.org/tabularium/edicts/praetor-2003-01-30.html), shall remain
in effect until further notice.

II. Last year's Praetores and their staff shall remain as moderators of the
Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com list until 2004-01-10 in order to insure a smooth
transition.

III. This edictum becomes effective immediately.

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
Praetor

Salvete Quirites.

There is one vacant position in our government: we still need to
elect one rogator. And one of our newly elected quaestores has
already announced his impossibility to accept the office, so we also
need to elect one quaestor. I hereby make a call for candidates to
fill these two important magistracies.

Candidates must write the consules at: consuls@... for their
candidacy to be included in the ballot. The consules will accept
candidacies for one nundina, until a.d. IV Idus Ianuarii, dies
Saturni (January the 10th, Saturday) at noon in Roma (12:00 am
Central European Time).

I invite all the citizens of Nova Roma to seriously consider
presenting your candidacy. Our Res Publica needs your willingness to
work in her behalf.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

Diana Moravia wrote:

| Ahh it is so nice to have someone posting that is also in the Roman time
| zone :-)

As long as it is not too early in the Roman time morning, that is...

| I'm breaking the list rules as recently sent in the edict by the Praetores
| by saying 'me too' (but since it was signed by last years Praetores I don't
| think it was valid ha ha !!)

That was an automated message that sneaked out under our radar. If M. Arminius
and I had issued it, we would at least have changed the names...
Besides that, it was (and is, he he) only discouraged to send "posts that
merely voice agreement with a previous post without expanding on an issue in
any way". It's not the use of the words "me too" that is undesired. There was
nothing wrong with your post under the old edictum, there wasn't on the day
where no edictum was in place formally, and there won't be under the new
edictum that's being worked on now. Sorry, but if you want to violate the
list guidlines, you'll have to try harder :-)

| Thank you Scaurus! You're the best! I think that all of us are going to
| learn a great deal from you this year.

And now is my turn to say "me too". I am looking forward to Scaurus' notices!
I'd like to join O. Flavius Pompeius though: Is it possible to send them
earlier, maybe on the day before? Thanks in advance!

--
Optime vale!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus

Salve Noricus,

Yes! You're in my time zone too. Salix and I were the only ones hanging around in a nearly
deserted Forum :-)

<That was an automated message that sneaked out under our radar. If M. Arminius
<and I had issued it, we would at least have changed the names...

Honestly I figured that it was an automatic Yahoo message generated especially since it came from
Yahoogroups. I just couldn't resist mentioning that Palladius was virtually unconscious after the
virtual inauguration party so that he could not have posted that in our virtual Forum :-))

<Sorry, but if you want to violate the list guidlines, you'll have to try harder :-)
I'll do my best in the future (just kidding!)

Vale,
Diana

I, Patricia Cassia, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the
Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium
- the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the
duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2757 AUC.

As a Lictor of Nova Roma I also recognize Imperium for all prorogued
and newly appointed Provincial Praetors of Nova Roma, and also
recognize that Imperium which may be bestowed upon those Provincial
Praetors or appointed during the course of the coming year.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their
Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.



-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@...

I, Matt Hucke/Marcus Octavius Germanicus do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests
of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to
act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Octavius Germanicus further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Curator Araneum to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Aedilis Curulis and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus.
http://www.graveyards.com/
Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess;
moderation is for monks. - Heinlein

Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

In the last few days, the senatores of Nova Roma have received several
petitions written by some citizens of Nova Roma that asked for the
inclusion of the citizen Diana Moravia Aventina in the Album
Senatorialis.

The censores and the consules of Nova Roma have been discussing this
possibility during the last few days. This is our conclusion.

In the first place, we would like to commend Diana Moravia Aventina
for her enthusiastic and constant work for the Republic, and we would
like to encourage her to continue with it.

We have decided not to appoint Diana Moravia Aventina to the Senate so
far. This decision is based in the need to keep the number of senators
under a reasonable limit in relation to the population of Nova Roma.
Four new senatores have just been incorporated into the Senate, and
the censores are not planning to incorporate new senatores in the
immediate future. This, of course, does not mean that Diana Moravia
or others may not be incorporated to the Senate later on.

=====
S.V.B.E.E.V
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

Salve Consul,

<We have decided not to appoint Diana Moravia Aventina to the Senate so
<far.

Thank you anyway for taking the time to consider me and the wishes of some of the citizens of this
Republic.

And of course you will see me continue to work for Nova Roma-- this I do out of love of Roma and
in honor of the Gods without the need of a prestigious title such as Senator, Tribune or even
Consul. I already have several 'jobs' this year. Besides raising the Temple of Venus to an
academic level, the Senate has already given me permission to organize a Roman Weekend in Germania
Inferior. And you can expect me to pop up as a Scriba for more than one magistrate this year.

Vale,
Diana Moravia
Sacerdos Veneris

Avete Quintilianus et Diana,

>I hope that Culule Aedile Illustris Marcus Julius Perusianus will
>take care of that. I hope the tradition that one (or two) European
>Curule Aediles shall organise a Nova Roman Rally each year

Still haven't talked with anyone (colleagues, European citizens, Italic
curia, etc.) about this yet. But I can tell you that the tradition won't
be interrupted! Should an European province not candidate, I guess we can
have another meeting in Italia.

valete

M IVL PERVSIANVS



Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@...>
31/12/03 01.18

Per: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Marcus Julius Perusianus <MAnselmi@...>
Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Adult SummerCamp & European Rally question


Salve Illustra Diana!

I hope that Culule Aedile Illustris Marcus Julius Perusianus will
take care of that. I hope the tradition that one (or two) European
Curule Aediles shall organise a Nova Roman Rally each year. Thule
will probably have a long needed Provincial meeting in Regio Finnica
next year. We will probably discuss mostly provincial issues as many
of us have given a lot of tíme to the central governament and it is
time to take a deep look at our provincia again.

>Salve Tiberius,
>
>Ok now that I know what an Adult summer Camp is.
>
>< He said one <of the reasons for so much
><in-fighting on the main list was simple, we have very few face to
>face meetings and really do not
><know each other very well.
>
>I've said the exact same thing often enough and so I agree with that
>assessment 100%. The camp
>would bring us one step further from breaking out of this virtual
>world. It may be hard to get
>organized but I will leave that up to you Tribune-elect :-)
>
>A question for our European citizens and/or Caeso Fabius: where will
>the next European Rally take
>place? I would love it if it were in Belgium again but its been done
>already. How about Köln or
>the Netherlands?
>
>Vale,
>Diana

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

M IVL Perusianus et Domitius CONST Fuscus Aediles Urbis Pro Temporibus CN
SAL Asturi Consuli Quiritibusque SPD

we, 'pro tempore' Aedilis Urbis Romae , appointed by our governor, Senator
Franciscus Apulus Caesar, on behalf of the Nova Roman citizens living in
the city of Rome, wish to thank who supported and acknowleged us in the
building of our community.
Hoping our could be an example for all the other NR citizens in the world.

thanks
valete

Roma Caput Mundi

----------------------

noi, gli Aediles Urbis pro tempore dell'Urbs, nominati dal nostro governatore,
il Senatore Franciscus Apulus Caesar, da parte dei cittadini Nova Romani
che vivono nella città di Roma, desideriamo ringraziare coloro che ci hanno
supportato e reso merito per la costituzione della nostra comunità.
Sperando che possiamo essere di esempio a tutti gli altri cittadini Novaromani
nel mondo.

grazie
valete

Roma Caput Mundi

I, Milko Anselmi/Marcus Iulius Perusianus do hereby solemnly swear to uphold
the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people
and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Milko Anselmi/Marcus Iulius Perusianus
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Milko Anselmi/Marcus Iulius Perusianus swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Milko Anselmi/Marcus Iulius Perusianus swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Milko Anselmi/Marcus Iulius Perusianus further swear to fulfill the obligations
and responsibilities of the office of Aedilis Curulis to the best of my
abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of Aedilis Curulis and all the rights, privileges, obligations,
and responsibilities attendant thereto.

May the Di Immortales bless, preserve, and protect Nova Roma!

Given in Italia Provincia, on the January 2nd 2004, in the consulship of
Cn. Salix Astur and Gn. Equitius Marinus.

Marcus Iulius Perusianus
--------------------------------------------------------------
Legatus Internis Rebus et Scriba ad historiam Provinciae Italiae
Magister Academiae Italicae
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Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/m_iulius
Italia Provincia: http://italia.novaroma.org
Cohors FAC: http://italia.novaroma.org/fac
SignaRomanorum: http://italia.novaroma.org/signaromanorum
--------------------------------------------------------------
AEQVAM MEMENTO REBVS IN ARDVIS SERVARE MENTEM

T Labienus Fortunatus Lictor omnibus SPD

As a Lictor Curiatae of Nova Roma, I hereby witness and acknowledge the passing
of imperium - the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to
the duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2757 AUC.

I also recognize imperium for all prorogued and newly appointed provincial
praetores of Nova Roma, and also recognize that imperium which is bestowed upon
any provincial praetores who may be appointed during the course of the coming
year.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the magistrates of Nova
Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their imperium for the
positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon our
nation and our cives in this coming year.

Valete

I'm not entirely sure that I understand the Roman gens, so I'll ask the
experts on the list. I understand that both Roma Antiqua and Nova Roma are
divided into gens, which are loosely analogous to clans. In Nova Roma there
are both patrician and plebian gens. Easy enough. But, as I read about Roma
Antiqua the situation -- on the surface at least -- appears to have been
more complex. I am currently reading a bit about Publius Clodius Pulcher,
and if I understand correctly, he was a member of the Claudian gens but
preferred a plebian spelling. Eventually, he renounced his patrician rank
and was elected tribune. Looking at the details of renouncing his patrician
rank, what I'm getting is something I don't understand. My source seems to
say that he was adopted by Publius Fonteius and that he was adopted by a
plebian member of his own gens. So then, did the various gens of Roma
Antiqua have both patrician and plebian branches? Was Fonteius a Clodian,
and if so, was Clodius a part of Fonteius' name that is being omitted from
my source for the sake simplicity? Or, were there instances where a person's
name did not reflect his or her gens? Or, am I misunderstanding and Fonteius
was distaff relative? Finally, are my questions perhaps related to the issue
of gens reform in Nova Roma?

I hope I'm not merely asking for a re-hash of old discussions, but I wasn't
able to find anything in the archive that addressed this question.

_____________________________
C. Iulius Iustinus

Salvete Quirites, et salve Cai Iuli,

C. Iulius Iustinus wrote:

[about Publius Clodius Pulcher]

> So then, did the various gens of Roma Antiqua have
> both patrician and plebian branches?

Yes, some did.

> Was Fonteius a Clodian,

I don't know of any evidence to that effect.

For more coverage, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Clodius_Pulcher

Valete!

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Salvete C Iuli Iustine omnesque

> But, as I read about Roma Antiqua the situation -- on the surface at least --
> appears to have been more complex.

It was much more complex than Nova Roma's current situation, which is to be
expected of a system that developed organically over the course of a few
centuries and involved thousands of people.

> So then, did the various gens of Roma Antiqua have both patrician and plebian
> branches?

Yes. The gentes were clans, though their members were not necessarily related
by blood. Any given gens was comprised of many familiae. A familia was an
extended family, including a paterfamilias at its head and all of the people
who were "in his hand". This would include his wife (though she might still be
in her father's hand, depending on the arrangements of their marriage), all of
his children (and their children, etc.), and any slaves owned by the rest of
the familia.

When a male member of the familia was freed from the paterfamilias' hand (i.e.
emancipated), he became a paterfamilias of a new familia in the same gens.
This was true of freed slaves, who would usually not be blood relations with
the paterfamilias. A woman who was freed would generally pass back to the hand
of her father or, if he was dead, her nearest male relative.

Note that a woman did not change gentes, though she changed familiae, when she
passed from the hand of her father to the hand of her husband. A woman's nomen
therefore would not match the nomen of her husband. It's my understanding that
it would have been seen as somewhat incestuous for e.g. a Claudia to marry a
Claudius, especially in the earlier years of the Republic.

The familia determined one's order, so a gens contained both patrician and
plebeian familiae.

> Was Fonteius a Clodian, and if so, was Clodius a part of Fonteius' name that
> is being omitted from my source for the sake simplicity?

I don't know. I've generally assumed that Fonteius was a member of Gens
Fonteia. Perhaps someone more knowledgable will tell us.

> Or, were there instances where a person's name did not reflect his or her
> gens?

As far as I know, a person's nomen matched his or her gens. Considering the
number of people we're talking about, I assume that there were exceptions--
especially after people outside of the Roman city-state were granted civitas.
In general, someone who gained civitas entered the gens of the magistrate who
granted it.

> Finally, are my questions perhaps related to the issue of gens reform in Nova
> Roma?

Inasmuch as they touch upon how unhistorical Nova Roma's current gens system
is, they are.

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus

Salvete Omnes,

I wish to express my enormous gratitude to Caius
Flavius Diocletianus and Marcus Octavius Germanicus
for bestowing upon me this greatest of honours.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus.

> Ex Officio
> Caius Flavius Diocletianus et Marcus Octavius
> Germanicus Censores
>
> I. Based on the Consitution of Nova Roma, Par.
> IV.A.1.d., and the Lex
> Vedia Senatoria, Par. II., the following citizens
> are added to the
> Album Senatorium:
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus, Propraetor Britanniae
> Franciscus Apulus Caesar, Propraetor Italiae
>
> II. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.
>
> Given Dec 30 in the year of the consulship of Caeso
> Fabius
> Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756
> AUC.
>
> Caius Flavius Diocletianus
> Censor
>
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus
> Censor
>
>
> Post Scriptum:
>
> This, citizens, is my last public action during my
> 2-years term of
> office. it was a pleasure to serve both you and the
> res publica. It
> was also a pleasure to work together with my
> colleagues, Lucius
> Equitius Cincinnatus and Marcus Octavius Germanicus.
> Best wishes to
> you and a happy new year 2757 AUC.
>
> Caius Flavius Diocletianus
> Censor
>
>
>
>
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>
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INVESTMENT OF IMPERIUM

I, Decimus Iunius Silanus, as a Lictor of Nova Roma
and a member of the Comitia Curiata, hereby witness
and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the power to
carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the
duly elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2757
AUC.

As a Lictor of Nova Roma I also recognize Imperium for
all prorogued and newly appointed
Provincial Praetors of Nova Roma, and also recognize
that Imperium which
may be bestowed upon those Provincial Praetors or
appointed during the course
of the coming year."

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over
the Magistrates of
Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to
use their Imperium for
the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred
bond bring favor upon
our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.



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Salvete,

A very big thank you to all those who have wished me
well on my adlection to the senate. Apologies for my
tardiness in replying but I am currently on holiday
with limited internet access and a troublesome French
keyboard.

Normal service will be resumed tomorrow upon my return
home :-)

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus

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Salvete Quirites.

The consules of Nova Roma have decided that none of the edicta issued
by last year's consules need to be re-issued by them. This is, of
course, due to the fact that those affairs that are not of a temporal
nature have been (righteously so) presented to the Comitia as
legislative proposals and not issued as edicta.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

I, Marcus Martianus Gangalius, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the
Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium -
the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the duly
elected Nova Roman magistrates for the year 2757 AUC.
As a Lictor of Nova Roma I also recognize Imperium for all prorogued and
newly appointed
Provincial Praetors of Nova Roma, and also recognize that Imperium which
may be bestowed upon those Provincial Praetors or appointed during the course
of the coming year."

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates of
Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for
the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor upon
our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Marcus Martianus Gangalius
Lictor
Legatus, California Superior
Paterfamilias, Gens Martiana

<http://www.martiana.org/>M A R T I A N A
Contendere, explorare, invenire, et non cedere.

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whoops! forgot to include the message from Metellus.

In a message dated 1/2/04 3:07:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, Sminla writes:

> L. Fabius Metellus S.P.D
>
> Salvete
>
> As a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia Curiata, I hereby
> witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium: that power,
> approved by the People by their voting, to carry out official
> duties as specified in the Constitution and other Edicts, and to uphold
> the Laws of Nova Roma, to the properly elected Magistrates of Nova Roma and
> the duly appointed Provincial Praetors for the Current Year of the City 2757.
>
> Mother Vesta preserve us all.
>
> Valete
>
>

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I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa (Clint Johnson), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of its citizens and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, swear to honor the gods and goddesses of Roma in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the gods and goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.



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SALVETE CIVES

I prontly answer to the call of our Honorable Consul Cn. Salix
Astur, and I declare my firm intention to be candidated for the
Questorship for the current year:


SALVETE QUIRITES!

I am speaking here in front of you all Cives Nova Romani, and I hope
the sweet-smelling wind of our Forum will drive my words in all of
your houses.
I stand here at the Rostra, enlightened by the sun that always
kisses our Patria, declaring my intention to candidate myself for
the Questorship for the year 2757 a.U.c..

Here, blinded by the eternal light of Roma, with my honorable blood
owing to Gens Iulia, I offer to you all my service for our Res
Publica.

In this one and half year I've decided to join Nova Roma, all my
efforts were done for the growth of our Dream in Italia. I offered
and gave my help to Franciscus Apulus Caesar and Manius Constantinus
Serapio for creating a strong basis of meetings in various cities
of Italia, I put all my pledge for the diffusion of Roman Culture
and Roman Virtues, as I truly believe in our common ideals.
I have been taking care of the project for the restoration of the
Temple of Magna Mater; untill now this work has been directed by one
of the best Cives we all have, the new elected Aedilis Curulis
Marcus Iulius Perusianus. We two have been working together in the
past months, and we know we are a strong and fearless team.
Finally, I was involved in the structure of Academia Italica, our
sharp weapon for the circulation of Roman Values and Culture in our
Provincia.

You have to be sure of one thing: I will do all these things better
and better, in the future.

With your vote, I will start my Cursus Honorum with the Questorship,
and I will dispose all my abilities and my knowledges for our Res
Publica.

Optime Valete,

Lucius Iulius Sulla,
Civis Romanus


OPTIME VALETE
L IUL SULLA
Italia

Salve All

Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like to give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence for six months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to serve with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where. My departure was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to anyone what it was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even saying this may backfire on me). I realize that I have let down a lot of people, but I can say now I am here to stay! So please accept me back to NR.

Quintus Sertorius



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Saying what? I heard nothing. ;-)

Welcome back!

Drusus

Nathan Guiboche wrote:

>
> Salve All
>
> Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like to
> give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence for six
> months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to serve
> with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where. My departure
> was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to anyone what it
> was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even saying this may
> backfire on me). I realize that I have let down a lot of people, but
> I can say now I am here to stay! So please accept me back to NR.
>
> Quintus Sertorius
>
>
>
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Salve Illustris Quintus Sertorius!

No problem, I am glad to see You again!

>Salve All
>
>Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like to
>give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence for
>six months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to
>serve with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where. My
>departure was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to
>anyone what it was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even
>saying this may backfire on me). I realize that I have let down a
>lot of people, but I can say now I am here to stay! So please
>accept me back to NR.
>
>Quintus Sertorius

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan Guiboche" <nate@m...> wrote:

>
> Salve All
>
> Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like to

give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence for
six months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to
serve with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where. My
departure was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to
anyone what it was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even saying
this may backfire on me). I realize that I have let down a lot of
people, but I can say now I am here to stay! So please accept me
back to NR.

>
> Quintus Sertorius

Welcome back, mi Sertori, and thank you for your service to your
country!

---
IVLI.SEMPRON.MAGN.T.P.
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
||||

Salvete,

As I have often said, I gladly dedicate my time to Nova Roma and since I see that there is an
opening for Quaestor that needs to be filled, I hereby declare my candidacy for Quaestor of Nova
Roma.

I have been a citizen of Nova Roma since her infancy in 1999 and since then have served as a
Scriba to now Censor Caeso Fabius and later went on to serve as Trbiune. In 2755 I was appointed
Priestess of Venus.

The position of Quaestor is to administer the funds allocated by the Senate to the consuls,
praetors, and aediles. My qualifications that are specifically relevant to this position is that I
was the Assistant Vice President of Fuji Bank for 9 years which had been located in the World
Trade Center and was personally responsible for the management and investment of 4 billion USD per
day. I later went on to work in Belgium for Big Fives: in Antwerp for Ernst & Young and then in
Brussels Belgium for Deloitte and Touche, in both cases as the manager of their Financial
Administration department.

Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina

Salve Quinte Sertori!

> Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all.

And a fine Happy New Year to you too. It's great to see you back
among us.

> ... So please accept me back to NR.

I can't imagine anyone would suggest otherwise.

Vale,

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

AVE DIANA AVENTINA

Believe me when I say I think you are one of the most pleasant
people here in Nova Roma. I just hope you will not feel hurted by my
words in this message (even though I fear you will!).

When you lost the election for Consulship you wrote in message
#18529:

>My Goddess has chosen to keep me specifically for herself and
>that makes the Consulship a poor consolation prize!

Then you added:

>I also made an offering to Venus Victrix and without explanation,
>one of the candles popped in a very loud way. I understood this to
>mean that Venus would have me lose so that I could focus on the
>Religio this year, which has always been my first love.

How is it now that you are presenting your candidacy as Quaestor?
Are you acting against what you interpreted as the Will of Venus, or
maybe you got another sign from Her which you interpreted in the
opposite way?

Then, if Consulship is 'a poor consolation prize', what about
Quaestorship?

Last but not least (and I think this will be the part you will like
less, I am sorry), the recent discussion on the new law about the
Comitia Centuriata voting system showed two things. The first one is
that, sad to say, you were not able to make a calculation which was
a bit more complicate than the one required by the previous system.
The second one is that you voted for a law which proposed a voting
system which you were not understanding, or you understood wrongly.
That is not what I look for in a Quaestor.

If you wish to answer this mail, I would beg you to answer all of my
points. Thank you!

OPTIME VALE
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Former Quaestor (2756 AVC)

> Then, if Consulship is 'a poor consolation prize', what about
> Quaestorship?

Quaestorship is far less time-consuming and stressful than Consulship.
Indeed, any magistracy can be said to be so.

I am very pleased to see that Diana is ready and willing to continue
her service to Nova Roma.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus.
http://www.graveyards.com/
Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess;
moderation is for monks. - Heinlein

Salvete Omnes,
I support the candidacy of my friend Lucius Iulius Sulla and invite you to
vote for him.
He's one of the most skilled and experienced new citizen of Nova Roma. I was
very impressed when I started to work with him: he has passion, dedication,
modesty and intelligence when he accomplish the hard jobs.
I tested his skills when I organized the last Nova Roman Rally in Bologna.
But first of all in Provincia Italia: he's contacting several famous italian
roman experts receiving very good and interesting interviews for Nova Roma.
It was an hard job because this experts are the èlite of the historical and
archeological academical world in Europe.
And I have to add that if elected he could make a great and wonderful job
serving our Curule Aedile Marcus Iulius Perusianus in the important project
of Magna Mater.

So, at the end I invite you again to support and vote for Iulius Sulla.

VAlete
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
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NOVA ROMA
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Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Propraetor Italiae - http://italia.novaroma.org
Scriba et Accensus
Pater Familiae Gens Apula - http://italia.novaroma.org/apula/
Vicarius Academiae Italicae - http://italia.novaroma.org/academiaitalica/

Salvete Omnes,
the article belowe (in italian, please translate with babefish) by the
Italian Cultural Ministry is very important for the roman archeology.
Building a new branch of the underground of Naples, it have been discovered
the ancient port of Neapolis with a big boat (10mt x 2mt) of the II century
A.C. Other features and important roman and medioeval objects have been
discovered. The local Istitution said that everything will be taken of care
in the original position and the travellers of teh underground could visit
the ruins every day.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar


SOTTO PIAZZA MUNICIPIO, IL PORTO ROMANO DI NAPOLI
Il ritrovamento della struttura portuale, avvenuto nel corso degli
scavi per il Metrò, ha permesso d'intercettare, a dieci metri dal livello
stradale, anche una barca del II secolo d.C.. Lo scavo di Piazza Nicola
Amore, invece, ha riportato alla luce un palazzo d'età imperiale e una
fontana medioevale.

di Carlo Avvisati

Per adesso, dello scafo si conoscono solo la lunghezza: 10 metri, e la
larghezza, 2 metri, visto che l'imbarcazione è ancora inglobata nel fango.
Poi, quando tra qualche giorno inizieranno i lavori di recupero, si potranno
fare delle ipotesi sul tipo e sull'impiego che quel legno dovette avere,
1800 anni fa. I primi dati, appunto la lunghezza e la larghezza, rimandano
immediatamente all'altra barca, quella che fu rinvenuta a Ercolano, di
fronte ai fornici dell'antica spiaggia, nel 1982. Anche quella imbarcazione,
quando venne recuperata dal fango, risultò essere 10 metri lunga e 2 metri e
20 centimetri larga. La barca ercolanese, impiegata per la pesca costiera,
era a struttura sfinata, simile a un gozzo marinaro moderno, e poteva avere
sino a sei rematori, visto che aveva sei scalmiere (sono gli alloggiamenti
per i remi). Quale fosse, invece, l'uso che all'epoca si fece della barca
scoperta in quello che dovette essere una sorta di retroporto del porto
romano della Neapolis antica si capirà allorché gli esperti saranno in grado
di "leggere" i segni: numero di scalmi, presenza di anfore o altra
ceramica, attrezzature per la pesca (ami, reti). Da questi elementi si
comprenderà se lo scafo fosse usato per la pesca oppure era un piccolo legno
utilizzato per trasportare merci generiche o di un tipo particolare.
Sicuramente importante, invece, dovette essere quell'edificio di epoca
augustea intercettato, sempre sulla stessa linea di scavo del Metrò, a
Piazza Nicola Amore,distante poche centinaia di metri da Piazza Municipio. I
resti del frontone del palazzo sono in marmo e presentano fondamenta
imponenti. Inoltre, i tecnici della Soprintendenza Archeologica di Napoli,
coordinati da Daniela Giampaola, l'archeloga responsabile dello scavo, hanno
anche catalogato un mosaico, a tessere bianche e nere, ancora parzialmente
sotterrato. Ancora, si sono ritrovate tombe, forse medievali, e una fontana,
perfettamente coservata, risalente al 1300. I resti rinvenuti in Piazza
Nicola Amore, secondo l'assessore all'Urbanistica di Napoli, Rocco Papa,
resteranno nella loro sede e si provvederà a renderli visibili ai
viaggiatori del Metrò. Per le altre centinaia di reperti rinvenuti nel corso
dello scavo, invece, si prospetta una opportuna collocazione in un futuro
"Museo del mare" cittadino.

Salve Drusus!

Thank you for the welcome! I makes me FEEL welcome! I have much to
catch up on.

QS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus" <drusus@b...>
wrote:

> Saying what? I heard nothing. ;-)
>
> Welcome back!
>
> Drusus
>
> Nathan Guiboche wrote:
>
> >
> > Salve All
> >
> > Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like

to

> > give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence

for six

> > months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to

serve

> > with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where. My

departure

> > was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to anyone

what it

> > was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even saying this may
> > backfire on me). I realize that I have let down a lot of

people, but

> > I can say now I am here to stay! So please accept me back to NR.
> >
> > Quintus Sertorius
> >
> >
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Thnak you Drusus!! It means a lot.

QS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus" <drusus@b...>
wrote:

> Saying what? I heard nothing. ;-)
>
> Welcome back!
>
> Drusus
>
> Nathan Guiboche wrote:
>
> >
> > Salve All
> >
> > Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like

to

> > give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence

for six

> > months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to

serve

> > with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where. My

departure

> > was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to anyone

what it

> > was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even saying this may
> > backfire on me). I realize that I have let down a lot of

people, but

> > I can say now I am here to stay! So please accept me back to NR.
> >
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Salve Sir

It is good to hear this from you, as I had hoped to work closely
with you this past year.

QS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
<christer.edling@t...> wrote:

> Salve Illustris Quintus Sertorius!
>
> No problem, I am glad to see You again!
>
> >Salve All
> >
> >Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all. I would like

to

> >give my apologies to everyone in NR for my unexplained absence

for

> >six months. All I can say is I had to leave quickly in order to
> >serve with the Canadian Armed Forces, and I can not say where.

My

> >departure was very quickly done, and left no room to explain to
> >anyone what it was about, I had to accept and say nothing(even
> >saying this may backfire on me). I realize that I have let down

a

> >lot of people, but I can say now I am here to stay! So please
> >accept me back to NR.
> >
> >Quintus Sertorius
>
> --
>
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
> Censor, Consularis et Senator
> Proconsul Thules
> Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
> Civis Romanus sum
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
> Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
> Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

> Welcome back, mi Sertori, and thank you for your service to your
> country!
>
> ---
> IVLI.SEMPRON.MAGN.T.P.
> @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
> ||||

Salve Julilla

Thank you for the kind words, although some times I wonder as to the
cost!

QS

Salve Gnaeus

Thank you for the welcome back, but there is much I must do before I
FEEL I have will have repaid that welcome.

QS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@c...> wrote:
> Salve Quinte Sertori!
>
> > Good day to everyone,and a Happy New Year to all.
>
> And a fine Happy New Year to you too. It's great to see you back
> among us.
>
> > ... So please accept me back to NR.
>
> I can't imagine anyone would suggest otherwise.
>
> Vale,
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus