Salvete omnes,

Since this is a volunteer organization and there is no financial
costs, waste and accountability to the tax payers, I do not see any
problem with a large staff. The more people that volunteer their
services to a particular magistrate, the merrier in my opinion
because they will be more involved and have a future keener interest
in running the government and bureacracy of NR. When many offer their
talents time and services for free, why not grab that opportunity?
When we start paying our consuls 400 k per year, the magistrates 100k
plus per year to match macronations then we can start whitling down
don't you think?

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "fin372000" <fin37@h...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> Is there no such thing as a "junior accensus" role for those
> of us with the enthusiasm for politics, but not the experience?
>
> It would only be something like 1 extra staff member per
magistrate,
> if that. And it would be worth it if it produced a "ladder" that
> even newer citizens could begin to climb.
>
>
> vale
>
> T. Octavius Salvius

G. Lanius Falco Omnibus SPD

Salvete, omnes

Can anyone tell me what language ANCORA IMPARO is, and what this means?

Multis gratias,

Vale,

G. Lanius Falco


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete omnes,

I am back and running on my regular email again. I sometimes have
problems accessing my home computer account with mail2web but we'll
get her one way or another!


Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Italian; it means "I'm still learning"
Ancora=still
Imparo (1st person sing. Imparare=to learn)

vale P. Fabia Vera

>
> Salvete, omnes
>
> Can anyone tell me what language ANCORA IMPARO is, and what this

means?

>
> Multis gratias,
>
> Vale,
>
> G. Lanius Falco
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus Fal to Q. Lanius Paulinus Rom. Salve.

The principal objections concerning large magisterial staffs are/were:

1. The possibility that confidential information could be compromised when a magistrate has a large staff;

2. The possibility that a magistrate would use a large staff to act as de facto clients, thugs, and political workers to stuff the cista on certain issues and intimidate citizens by a mass "jumping on them" on the main list;

3. The abuse of century points and position [Note: I still do not understand how you can abuse either but I may be missing a constitutional issue];

4. Large staffs will draw many active citizens into working for one magistrate's position and other worthwhile projects could be neglected;

5. It could be viewed as a clique or political party working at cross purposes to the overall goals of Nova Roma;

6. The staff members would abuse authority in the name of their magistrate or would shield the magistrate from having direct contact with the public;

There were two or three other points that have been raised in the past 18 months but they were so ridiculous that I cannot even bring them to mind.

Some of those citizens who raised these objections have previously served as magistrates and functioned with only one or two staff members. However, they were also magistrates when Nova Roma was a much smaller organization with fewer laws, projects, and plans. The more flesh we put on the bones of the state, the more work there will be to do especially for real events such as festivals, games, Roman Days, video/film work, and the building of new groups in the provinces. Such is the nature of organizations with passionate members.

Whenever an organization has more than a dozen members, there will always be at least one or more persons that are absolutely sure that there is some kind of conspiracy in the works (usually directed at themselves). Also, elections can be nasty; especially on-line when a person doesn't have to worry that their insults, insinuations, and slanders will not result in a punch in the nose. Of course, there are also the defeated candidates or their supporters that may become upset and make accusations of improprieties. For the most part, situations like these are normal and usually do not affect the overall enjoyment of the organization.

With Nova Roma's new laws for opening up physical groups in the real world, there will be equal opportunities for better communication and more garbage. Of course, the excrement-stirrers will have to be a little more tactful and diplomatic (or sneaky) because they risk social ostracism or that aforementioned punch in the nose, if they do not mend their ways.

This is just a personal opinion about some of the issues concerned with magisterial staffs and the future of the Republic. May the Gods grant Nova Roma and Her citizens all that is fortunate, appropriate, and auspicious. Vale.

Salve Gai,

I think it is Italian. I went to babelfish and it translates, Still I
learn. Also ancora is anchor in Spanish but the closest word to
Imparo is Impero, I reign. An Italian citizen should sort this one
out sooner or later.

Regards,

Quintus



-- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lanius117@a... wrote:

> G. Lanius Falco Omnibus SPD
>
> Salvete, omnes
>
> Can anyone tell me what language ANCORA IMPARO is, and what this

means?

>
> Multis gratias,
>
> Vale,
>
> G. Lanius Falco
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete,

I just saw this online, and had to share:

Aufer me ad arenam.
Aufer me cum turba.
Da mihi glires sparsos melle.
Reditum domum non curo velle.
Pro leonibus exhortemur.
Nil refert hominum.
Duo, tria membra edent
gladiatorum.

Which, being interpreted, means:

Take me to the arena,
Take me out with the crowd.
Buy me some dormice in honeycomb
I don't care if I never go home.
So let's root, root, root for the lions
Not the humans they maim
Munching two, three more body parts
at our Caesar's game.

--
Gn. Equitius Marinus

Salve Gai,

The words appear to be Italian and according to babelfish say, Still
I learn. If I'm out to lunch some NR Italian citizen can sort me out.
Some phrases are idiomatic or proverbial, don't translate literally
well and have a different meaning than what you think.

In Spanish Ancora is anchor but Impero, (there is no imparo) means I
reign... I reign is an anchor?

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lanius117@a... wrote:
> G. Lanius Falco Omnibus SPD
>
> Salvete, omnes
>
> Can anyone tell me what language ANCORA IMPARO is, and what this
means?
>
> Multis gratias,
>
> Vale,
>
> G. Lanius Falco
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thou art a very, very sicque man. Is there a medicus on the list? Oh Centurion, tie that man to a tree and whip him with a wet lagana until he screams for mercy.

F Gal Aur Sec Fal

Ave Quirites;
I'm singing this at the summer european Rally! plus all the
choruses.
fab, and thanks Gnaee Equiti, my great-uncle by marriage Von
Tilzer wrote the original, yours is way more fun,
vale P.Fabia Vera

Salve F. Galeri Aureliane,

Thank you for your time on this excellent summary concerning
magisterial staffs.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus Fal to Q. Lanius Paulinus Rom.
Salve.
>
> The principal objections concerning large magisterial staffs
are/were:
>
> 1. The possibility that confidential information could be
compromised when a magistrate has a large staff;
>
Q. Well you would think that the magistrate would give his people
organize different security levels and insider privilages depending
on how well he knows them and sees how they preform then raise them
from easy tasks to more responsible ones. Trust is something that
must be earned not given. (old Kilngon proverb - grin))


> 2. The possibility that a magistrate would use a large staff to act
as de facto clients, thugs, and political workers to stuff the cista
on certain issues and intimidate citizens by a mass "jumping on them"
on the main list;
>
Q - I agree with you here; it is a possibility because loyalty to
your leader is very important.


> 3. The abuse of century points and position [Note: I still do not
understand how you can abuse either but I may be missing a
constitutional issue];
>

q - I must read up on this one; I'm still a little hazy on century
points also.

> 4. Large staffs will draw many active citizens into working for one
magistrate's position and other worthwhile projects could be
neglected;
>
Q - Well it is up to the leaders of other worthwile projects to
promote and advertise their departments giving clear and concise
direction; for example I like working for Manivs C. Serapio,Consul
Aster and Senator Audens because they contacted and answer my points
directly, showed me very clearly their goals and expectations and
gave me specific tasks to do; 1, 2, 3 and where and when to submit
them. If other departments adopt the same attitude there would be no
problems in getting vaster numbers of people.


> 5. It could be viewed as a clique or political party working at
cross purposes to the overall goals of Nova Roma;
>

Q - Political terms, except for Censor are only one year, not 4 or 5
like in Macro nations. I have doubts if our time frames are long
enough to pull off such a situation.


> 6. The staff members would abuse authority in the name of their
magistrate or would shield the magistrate from having direct contact
with the public;
>

Q - The magistrates must be the leaders in this case and keep a grip
on the leash of each of his or her helpers making it clear to them
when to speak for him or when not to speak. Having your assistants do
all the fighting for you shows weakness and is political suicide.


> There were two or three other points that have been raised in the
past 18 months but they were so ridiculous that I cannot even bring
them to mind.
>
> Some of those citizens who raised these objections have previously
served as magistrates and functioned with only one or two staff
members. However, they were also magistrates when Nova Roma was a
much smaller organization with fewer laws, projects, and plans. The
more flesh we put on the bones of the state, the more work there will
be to do especially for real events such as festivals, games, Roman
Days, video/film work, and the building of new groups in the
provinces. Such is the nature of organizations with passionate
members.
>
> Whenever an organization has more than a dozen members, there will
always be at least one or more persons that are absolutely sure that
there is some kind of conspiracy in the works (usually directed at
themselves). Also, elections can be nasty; especially on-line when a
person doesn't have to worry that their insults, insinuations, and
slanders will not result in a punch in the nose. Of course, there
are also the defeated candidates or their supporters that may become
upset and make accusations of improprieties. For the most part,
situations like these are normal and usually do not affect the
overall enjoyment of the organization.
>
> With Nova Roma's new laws for opening up physical groups in the
real world, there will be equal opportunities for better
communication and more garbage. Of course, the excrement-stirrers
will have to be a little more tactful and diplomatic (or sneaky)
because they risk social ostracism or that aforementioned punch in
the nose, if they do not mend their ways.
>
> This is just a personal opinion about some of the issues concerned
with magisterial staffs and the future of the Republic. May the Gods
grant Nova Roma and Her citizens all that is fortunate, appropriate,
and auspicious. Vale.


Q - All your points are valid but I feel the success or failure of
large staffs depends on the strength of the leader; as I have heard
the military say, there is no such thing as good and bad soldiers;
only good and bad leaders. I would think the issues you mention all
depend on the strength and integrity of the magistrate and his or her
ability to attract the right people.


Thanks again,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Hi Pomponia,

I repeated what you said; glad you agree. The postings are appearing
very slowly today and mine was sitting out there for 20 minutes. I'm
usually not a copy cat (grin)

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Italian; it means "I'm still learning"
> Ancora=still
> Imparo (1st person sing. Imparare=to learn)
>
> vale P. Fabia Vera
> >
> > Salvete, omnes
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what language ANCORA IMPARO is, and what this
> means?
> >
> > Multis gratias,
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > G. Lanius Falco
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

SALVETE OMNES

My good friend M Iul Perusianus indirectly let me discover a new,
interesting internet site about archaeology in Roma Antiqua, from
Stefano Cassone.
It' really well-done, with beautiful images and maps. Take a look to
that of Roman Forum, it's really detailed.

It's in italian; for the text you can use Babelfish:
http://world.altavista.com/

The address is:
http://archeoroma.cjb.net/

BENE VALETE
L IUL SULLA

Salvete Omnes,

yes, I confirm that ANCORA IMPARO can be italian, it means "I'm
still learning".

Imparo means "I learn".
ANCORA in italian has two meanings and it depends from the accent:
àncora = anchor
ancòra = still

However ANCHOR I LEARN means nothing in italian. I'M STILL LEARNING
is more reasonable.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Propraetor Italiae



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:

> Hi Pomponia,
>
> I repeated what you said; glad you agree. The postings are

appearing

> very slowly today and mine was sitting out there for 20 minutes.

I'm

> usually not a copy cat (grin)
>
> Quintus Lanius Paulinus
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@y...>

wrote:

> > Italian; it means "I'm still learning"
> > Ancora=still
> > Imparo (1st person sing. Imparare=to learn)
> >
> > vale P. Fabia Vera
> > >
> > > Salvete, omnes
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me what language ANCORA IMPARO is, and what

this

> > means?
> > >
> > > Multis gratias,
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > G. Lanius Falco
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

, Salve Francisce Apule;
thank goodness 2 years of University Italian and an Italian roomate,
have not yet deserted me,
mille grazie amice, vale P.Fabia Vera

>
> yes, I confirm that ANCORA IMPARO can be italian, it means "I'm
> still learning".
>
>

Salvete Omnes,
do you remember the news of the last weeks about the discovers of
the ancient ruins of the roman port of Naples?
They are continuing with other wonderful news.
A second little and civil boat appaered in the last this days during
the exploration of the metropolitan archeological area. Close to the
boat the archologists is finding several objects like jewels, shoes,
cups, etc.
In the same area they are finding the floor of the ancient
Gymnasium of Neapolis.

If you want further informations, visit
http://www.culturalweb.it/dettaglioxstampa.asp?ID_Articolo=12441
It's in italian but you can translate it with babelfish.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Tribune et Senator
Propraetor Italiae

Salve Vera,
congratulations, your italian is very very good.
I thought the italian wasn't so popular our of my Land but I'm
seeing that several people here know it. As Propraetor and italian
I'm happy of it :-D

Vale
FAC

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "P. Fabia Vera" <rory12001@y...>
wrote:

> , Salve Francisce Apule;
> thank goodness 2 years of University Italian and an Italian

roomate,

> have not yet deserted me,
> mille grazie amice, vale P.Fabia Vera
> >
> > yes, I confirm that ANCORA IMPARO can be italian, it means "I'm
> > still learning".
> >
> >

Salvete Tiberius Galerius et Omnes

In the earlier books I picture Gordianus like a young(er) Derek
Jacobi or Ian Holm. May be they could pull it off for the older
Gordianus, but that would be a stretch even for such accomplished
actors.

Someone suggested Harrison Ford for the older Gordianus, but I see
Gordianus as shorter than Ford, more like Holm or Jacobi.

I dispair of ever getting a match for Gordianus like Jeremy Brett was
for Holmes or David Suchet for Poirot at least amongst the well know
film actors today. Perhaps there is some European actor of whom we on
this side of the Pond have not seen much.

Bene Vale
Livia Cornalia Hibernia


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:

> Salve
>
> FYI From Steven Saylor's website
>
> [...snipped...]
> And who should play Gordianus? Good question who should play

him???

>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks for the encouragement Francisce Apule;

since you and other cives have made such a postive example by posting
on the various lists in your non-native language, I am making the
effort to post on NRItalia list and soon the NRHispania. If I make
mistakes, I will just not worry;)
As to Italian, hmm everyone loves Italia in America & wants to
visit there, so they learn. My roomate encouraged me, of course my
handsome Florentine professor helped;)
bene vale P.Fabia Vera


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "FAC" <sacro_barese_impero@l...> wrote:

> Salve Vera,
> congratulations, your italian is very very good.
> I thought the italian wasn't so popular our of my Land but I'm
> seeing that several people here know it. As Propraetor and italian
> I'm happy of it :-D
>
> Vale
> FAC
>
> --- > > >

Salvete Quirites.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<gawne@c...> wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> I just saw this online, and had to share:
>
> Aufer me ad arenam.
> Aufer me cum turba.
> Da mihi glires sparsos melle.
> Reditum domum non curo velle.
> Pro leonibus exhortemur.
> Nil refert hominum.
> Duo, tria membra edent
> gladiatorum.
>
> Which, being interpreted, means:
>
> Take me to the arena,
> Take me out with the crowd.
> Buy me some dormice in honeycomb
> I don't care if I never go home.
> So let's root, root, root for the lions
> Not the humans they maim
> Munching two, three more body parts
> at our Caesar's game.

An excellent poem, Marine. I have enjoyed it very much :-).

For the benefit of those of our citizens who know even less about
baseball than I do, "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" is a traditional
American song that is related with it (with baseball, that is).
Everyone in America knows the lyrics of that song.

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

Salvete Quirites; et salve, Quinte Lani.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:

<<snipped>>

> In Spanish Ancora is anchor but Impero, (there is no imparo) means
> I reign... I reign is an anchor?

Actually, dear Quinte Lani, "áncora" is not much used in Spanish
outside poetry. The common word for "anchor" is "ancla". Both come
from Latin, but "ancora" is pure Latin, while "ancla" is the word
that evolved from Latin "ancora" through the Middle Ages. Why should
someone use a Latin word instead of the common word of Latin origin?
Ask Spanish 17th century poets; for some reason, they loved it :-).

"Impero" (another word taken directly for Latin) is technically the
Latin-Spanish-Italian-Portuguese verb that means "to exert one's
Imperium". "I command, I dominate" would perhaps be a better
translation for the Spanish "impero".

S.V.B.E.E.V.
CN.SALIX.T.F.A.NEP.OVF.ASTVR

Salve F. Galeri,

> I believe that the main website for Nova Roma >

should have a series of handbooks on all the >
offices both at the micronational level, provincial >
level, and (eventually) local group levels.

There is also a governors handbook in existence. It
was originally created by C. Flavius Diocletianus and
it receives regular updates. It is currently stored on
the files section of the Nova Roma provincia list and
my hard drive. I'd be happy for it to be accessed via
the main web site.

Vale

Decimus Iunius Silanus

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon" <cagneyfan@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?


> Salve,
>
> I have a suggestion and idea unless it has already been done. Has
> anyone ever considered doing a calander with the months as we know
> them in their original Roman form and instead of dates such as
> 1,2,3,4,and 5 of say January it would be Kalends, ante deim IV,
> III,II, I, Nones, and etc. with possibly the dates that we are all
> familiar with in parenthesis underneath. I find it a great help
> with Roman history when I see such date announcements on the main
> list and I for one would use a calander such as this. Does anyone
> have any connections to get something like this done or would anyone
> even be interested in doing it? Personally also I think it would be
> a great fund raiser for lack of a better term for Nova Roma not to
> mention a great conversation piece when people see Nones, Kalends,
> Ides, and ante deim on a calander as well as months in the original
> roman tongue. Please discuss as I am anxious to see what everyone
> has to say.
> Valete! Brandon W.
>
>
>
>
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Salve All

I was wondering if anyone could help me with sites that have audio
books.

vale

Quintus sertorius

Salve,
You could go to Apple.com and download Apple iTunes. Then set-up an
account at the iTunes Music Store. They have audio books you can d/l
and burn to CD. iTunes is available for Mac(of course) and Windows.

Vale,

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus

--
Apple iBook 600(Dual USB), Mac OSX 10.3 Panther

I didn't consider your comment witty, Fabia Vera, I considered it rude.

Gaius Modius

In a message dated 1/16/2004 1:26:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rory12001@... writes:
I was making a pun. Q. Fabius objected to large cohors, preferring
smallness, ergo he would prefer to be Minimus than Maximus. Only
those lacking wit stoop to crudeness.
vale P.Fabia Vera


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Fabia Vera

<Only those lacking wit stoop to crudeness.

I'm happy to see that those relaxation exercises are leading you to self-awareness.

Vale,

Diana

Salve Gnaeus Equitius

Briliant! I love it!

Vale
Livia Cornelia Hibernia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<gawne@c...> wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> I just saw this online, and had to share:
>
> Aufer me ad arenam.
> Aufer me cum turba.
> Da mihi glires sparsos melle.
> Reditum domum non curo velle.
> Pro leonibus exhortemur.
> Nil refert hominum.
> Duo, tria membra edent
> gladiatorum.
>
> Which, being interpreted, means:
>
> Take me to the arena,
> Take me out with the crowd.
> Buy me some dormice in honeycomb
> I don't care if I never go home.
> So let's root, root, root for the lions
> Not the humans they maim
> Munching two, three more body parts
> at our Caesar's game.
>
> --
> Gn. Equitius Marinus

Salve just type audio tape in search

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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----- Original Message -----
From: nateguiboche
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Audio books



Salve All

I was wondering if anyone could help me with sites that have audio
books.

vale

Quintus sertorius





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Salve

Who said the following and what does it mean


"Salus populi suprema lex".


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

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SALVE PAULINE

> Who said the following and what does it mean
>
> "Salus populi suprema lex".

It's: the safety of the population (or the good for the people) is
the state's first goal (or law).

It's from Cicero, in De legibus.

BENE VALE
L IUL SULLA

>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete Omnes,

as member of the web-staff for the main website, if the Curator
authorize me to do it, I could re-organize a section with all the
handbooks.

Please send privatly the texts you have and what kind of structure
you suggest.
The e-mail address is fraelov@... [fraelov @ yahoo.it]

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar


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<danedwardsuk@y...> wrote:

> Salve F. Galeri,
>
> > I believe that the main website for Nova Roma >
> should have a series of handbooks on all the >
> offices both at the micronational level, provincial >
> level, and (eventually) local group levels.
>
> There is also a governors handbook in existence. It
> was originally created by C. Flavius Diocletianus and
> it receives regular updates. It is currently stored on
> the files section of the Nova Roma provincia list and
> my hard drive. I'd be happy for it to be accessed via
> the main web site.
>
> Vale
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus
>
>

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Salvete, Quirites.

Today is ante diem XVI Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is ante diem XV Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Qurinalis et Pontifex

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Here's a link to the "Roman Open-Air Museum, Hechingen-Stein":

http://www.villa-rustica.de/indexe.html

The site provides a virtual tour of the villa rustica site, dating to
the 1st-3rd centuries CE. The reconstructed kitchen includes cooking
utensils found in the excavations. The site is also available in German.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salve G. Iuli Scaure,

Thank you for posting that website on the Roman villa. I found it
fascinating and I must say I would have no trouble at all adapting to
that lifestyle. It shows just how close the Romans were to us in
their living styles even after all these years.

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@w...> wrote:
> G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.
>
> Salvete, Quirites.
>
> Here's a link to the "Roman Open-Air Museum, Hechingen-Stein":
>
> http://www.villa-rustica.de/indexe.html
>
> The site provides a virtual tour of the villa rustica site, dating
to
> the 1st-3rd centuries CE. The reconstructed kitchen includes
cooking
> utensils found in the excavations. The site is also available in
German.
>
> Valete.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus

Salve,

I will be helping out in a play within the next few months that
involves Romans naturally and I need some historical help.
Magistrates will have a part in it therefore we wished to employ
the fasces as well as the toga. From the pictures of the citizens I
have seen most of the men have their togas and the internet has so
many descriptions of what it should look like how it should fold and
the length and pattern; can a Nova Roman help in this area? Also
does anyone happen to know th dimensions of the fasces; I know what
they looked like as well as their purpose but not how big. Any help
or websites you can post for me would be great. Gratias
Valete, Brandon

Salvete Omnes,

Does anyone know what happened to Livius.org? They are a site that has
many articles on Ancient History. I can't access their site. It says it no
longer exists. Anyone know what happened?

BENE.VALE.
MANENS.IN.AMORE.ROMAE.
ET.FORTIS.IN.FIDE.
GNAEVS.SCRIBONIVS.SCRIPTOR.
OPTIO.SODALITATIS.MILITARIUM.
NOVAE.ROMAE.ET.LEGIONIS.XXIVAE.MA.


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G. Iulius Scaurus Brandon salutem dicit.

Salve, Brandon.

>I will be helping out in a play within the next few months that
>involves Romans naturally and I need some historical help.
>Magistrates will have a part in it therefore we wished to employ
>the fasces as well as the toga. From the pictures of the citizens I
>have seen most of the men have their togas and the internet has so
>many descriptions of what it should look like how it should fold and
>the length and pattern; can a Nova Roman help in this area? Also
>does anyone happen to know th dimensions of the fasces; I know what
>they looked like as well as their purpose but not how big. Any help
>or websites you can post for me would be great. Gratias
>
>

The fasces were dowel-like rods of elm (Plautus, Asin. iii.2.29 and
ii.3.74). Estimating their size is difficult becauses the proportions
are not constant over numismatic and relief imagery; in general they are
portrayed as being roughly the diameter of a large man's thumb and the
length of the distance between a man's shoulder and mid-shin. Outside
the pomerium they were bound into a bundle with an axe (the securis);
inside the pomerium the securis was removed, except for the bundled
fasces of the dictator and the magister equitum in the republican period
(the fasces of the emperor retained the securis within the pomerium).
The binding was done with red ribbons; however, the number of variations
of binding style is so varied in graphical representations that a
definitive style cannot be determined. Don't trust the discussion in
Smith's _A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities_ since there are
several errors of fact and miscitations. I hope this is helpful.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

>
>

In a message dated 1/17/04 8:40:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cagneyfan@... writes:

> I will be helping out in a play within the next few months that
> involves Romans naturally and I need some historical help.
> Magistrates will have a part in it therefore we wished to employ
> the fasces as well as the toga. From the pictures of the citizens I
> have seen most of the men have their togas and the internet has so
> many descriptions of what it should look like how it should fold and
> the length and pattern; can a Nova Roman help in this area? Also
> does anyone happen to know th dimensions of the fasces; I know what
> they looked like as well as their purpose but not how big. Any help
> or websites you can post for me would be great. Gratias
> Valete, Brandon
>
>
>

What period of Rome are you trying to cover? It matters when doing the toga.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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> What period of Rome are you trying to cover? It matters when

doing the toga.

>
> Q. Fabius Maximus

This would be after the Republican era during the reign of Tiberius.

SALVE BRANDON

> This would be after the Republican era during the reign of

Tiberius.

Sorry for the intrusion, but we should talk of Empire with Tiberius
(14-37 CE), even if it is only an historical classification: Reign,
Republic and Empire.
Maybe some Romans did still believe to have a Republic, but just
after the first decades of Augustus we cannot talk of Republic.
Nor we can talk of "reign": Romans did hate any kind of King, and
never would have beared one!

BENE VALE
L IUL SULLA

SALVE ITERUM

Marginal note: Romans, during Empire, used to call their state "Res
Publica" anyway!

BENE VALE
L IUL SULLA

> Sorry for the intrusion, but we should talk of Empire with

Tiberius

> (14-37 CE), even if it is only an historical classification:

Reign,

> Republic and Empire.
> Maybe some Romans did still believe to have a Republic, but just
> after the first decades of Augustus we cannot talk of Republic.
> Nor we can talk of "reign": Romans did hate any kind of King, and
> never would have beared one!
>
> BENE VALE
> L IUL SULLA

I am well aware of what you mentioned but for a simple post I did
think it necessary to go into that much detail. Therefore please
excuse my rudeness but your response was of no help to my post.
valete, Brandon

Salve GCL

Thank you for this post I will check it out.

Vale

QS

----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie Collins
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Audio books


Salve,
You could go to Apple.com and download Apple iTunes. Then set-up an
account at the iTunes Music Store. They have audio books you can d/l
and burn to CD. iTunes is available for Mac(of course) and Windows.

Vale,

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus

--
Apple iBook 600(Dual USB), Mac OSX 10.3 Panther



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SALVE

I'm sorry, but I read "during" republican era, not "after"; do not
consider my post!

VALE
L IUL SULLA

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon" <cagneyfan@y...> wrote:
> > Sorry for the intrusion, but we should talk of Empire with
> Tiberius
> > (14-37 CE), even if it is only an historical classification:
> Reign,
> > Republic and Empire.
> > Maybe some Romans did still believe to have a Republic, but just
> > after the first decades of Augustus we cannot talk of Republic.
> > Nor we can talk of "reign": Romans did hate any kind of King,
and
> > never would have beared one!
> >
> > BENE VALE
> > L IUL SULLA
>
> I am well aware of what you mentioned but for a simple post I did
> think it necessary to go into that much detail. Therefore please
> excuse my rudeness but your response was of no help to my post.
> valete, Brandon

In a message dated 1/17/04 2:33:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
cagneyfan@... writes:

> am well aware of what you mentioned but for a simple post I did
> think it necessary to go into that much detail. Therefore please
> excuse my rudeness but your response was of no help to my post.
> valete, Brandon
>

Salvete
OK, Sculptures indicate Principate Togas were larger and covered more area
then a Republican one. However this change was gradual, so you might be able to
get away with Republican one. Most prop and costume houses professional and
University use Republican ones because of Shakespeare's "Iulis Caesar." I
suggest you rent one, and make your copies from that.

I'll be glad to send you dimensions if you aren't near a College, but it
easier to copy a piece than make it from scratch.

Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus


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Salve TGP

Excellent reply!!

Vale

QS

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From: Stephen Gallagher
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Audio books


Salve just type audio tape in search

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Audio books



Salve All

I was wondering if anyone could help me with sites that have audio
books.

vale

Quintus sertorius





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Salvete Quintus Fabius,

If you would be so kind as to do that I would
appreciate it very much. Unfortunately no I not near
a college where I would have access to this so it
would be of great help for you to provided it will not
inconvenience you. I will give the dimensions to the
lady who will be getting the fabric and see if it
cannot be done. What fabric do you suggest? I have
heard muslin or wool.
Valete and Gratias,
Brandon

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Salvete,
Quite alright my friend I accept the apology and I
apologize myself for being rather rash in my response
to you. My hand as well as an olive branch is
extended, please forgive me as well. Be well and
strong.
Valete, Brandon

--- Lucius Iulius <21aprile@...> wrote:

> SALVE
>
> I'm sorry, but I read "during" republican era, not
> "after"; do not
> consider my post!
>
> VALE
> L IUL SULLA

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Salve Civies,
I intend on placing a single Nova Roma coin onto eBay as an experiment.
I've been including a Nova Roma coin in my occassional eBay auctions as a free
bonus, however I would like to see if the coin itself could capture any
attention. I initially purchased 60 of the coins and I'm now down to just below
40. I'd prefer if Nova-Roma citizens don't bid on it (hence, not including a
link to the auction) because I'm hoping that it will get the attention of
people not currently aware of Nova Roma. However, since the Nova-Roma coins are
currently sold out, if you do not have any I won't object if you bid on it.
Please do not bid on it if you have any of the coins. The auction page will
essentially be a copy & paste of the coin page on novaroma.org.
Vale,
Iulius Titinius Antonius


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Salve

No I don't , as I was just there one day last week one article was last updated January 9 2004 so it must have been there as recently as that but where it has gone is anybody's guest. Jonas Lendering was very good to the Eagle last year and we had permission to use anything on his site. We are forever grateful for his
willingness to help. If it does not come back in some form it will be sorely missed.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message ----- From: Scriboni89@...
To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
Cc: SodalitasMilitarium@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Livius


Salvete Omnes,

Does anyone know what happened to Livius.org? They are a site that has
many articles on Ancient History. I can't access their site. It says it no
longer exists. Anyone know what happened?

BENE.VALE.
MANENS.IN.AMORE.ROMAE.
ET.FORTIS.IN.FIDE.
GNAEVS.SCRIBONIVS.SCRIPTOR.
OPTIO.SODALITATIS.MILITARIUM.
NOVAE.ROMAE.ET.LEGIONIS.XXIVAE.MA.


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Salve Brandon for the Fasces you should go to the Lego XXIV page as listed here

http://www.legionxxiv.org/fasces%20page/ Look like it would be easy to make.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Historical Help for a Play


Salve,

I will be helping out in a play within the next few months that
involves Romans naturally and I need some historical help.
Magistrates will have a part in it therefore we wished to employ
the fasces as well as the toga. From the pictures of the citizens I
have seen most of the men have their togas and the internet has so
many descriptions of what it should look like how it should fold and
the length and pattern; can a Nova Roman help in this area? Also
does anyone happen to know th dimensions of the fasces; I know what
they looked like as well as their purpose but not how big. Any help
or websites you can post for me would be great. Gratias
Valete, Brandon






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G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Today is ante diem XV Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is ante diem XIV Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Valete.

G. Iuli
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex

Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

For several years, our magistrates have sworn an oath upon their
appointment. This oath is officially defined by the Lex Iunia de
Iusiurando:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/1999-10-19-ii.html

Some of our magistrates, in an effort to be closer to our forefathers,
have sworn a Latin translation of that oath at the same time as the
official English oath. Several such translations have circulated.

After some comments on this forum about the correctness of one of such
translations, I asked Flavia Tullia, our resident latinist, to provide
a translation of the official oath of office that could be presented to
the public as a possible addendum to that official oath of office.

She, with the help of other citizens like Praetor Cn. Octavius Noricus,
Aedilis Plebeia Emilia Curia Finnica and Aulus Aenobarbus, has managed
to fulfill this petition in a timely and proper manner. Pontifex C.
Iulius Scaurus acceded to revise the text and gave his "imprimatur". So
here it is:

Ego, ____________________hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me
defensurum/am, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum/am
esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego,____________________officio ___________________[consulis, etc.]
Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae
temporibus me culturum/am, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita
me persecuturum/am esse IVRO.

Ego____________________Religioni Romanae me fauturum/am et eam
defensurum/am, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum/am
esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, ___________________officiis muneris______________________me quam
optime functurum/am esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus ___________________una cum
iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

What do you think, citizens? Should this Latin translation be added to
our official oath, so that the oath is made both in Latin and English?
I find it very appropriate, but I would like to know your opinion.

Flavia Tullia's explanation of the corrections needed by the previous
translation follows:

> Flavia Tullia quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque omnibus salutem
> plurimam dicit.
>
> Recently, several individuals posted comments on the Latinitas
> site regarding the correctness of the Latin in that version of the
> Nova Roman oath of office, a matter I had privately called to the
> attention of two magistrates.
>
> Among these postings was a very thorough analysis by Aedilis
> Plebis Emilia Curia Finnica, to which I responded at length. As a
> result of these messages, Senior Consul Gnaeus Salix Astur asked me
> to provide a corrected rendition of the Latin version of the oath of
> office. This has now been completed with the very able assistance of
> Praetor Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, who is very learned in the finer
> points of Latin grammar, and has been approved by Pontifex and Flamen
> Quirinalis Gaius Iulius Scaurus and transmitted to Consul Gnaeus
> Salix Astur, who will post it together with this explanation.
>
> This revision was undertaken for several reasons. There are
> numerous grammatical errors in the existing Latin text, which I shall
> detail below, as well as some of vocabulary. Moreover, the text as a
> whole is stylistically flawed, reflecting English rather than Latin
> word order and phraseology.
>
> Grammatically speaking, as Emilia Curia Finnica and Aulus
> Aenobarbus pointed out, (as did I privately), two verbs, "favere"
> and "fungi" are construed with the wrong cases. The former normally
> takes the dative, and the latter, the ablative, whereas both are
> construed with the accusative in the existing version. Secondly, the
> verb "iuro" requires the indirect statement construction rather than
> the simple infinitive used here, and, as Praetor Noricus pointed out,
> the future infinitive is better Latin than the present infinitive
> used in the existing oath. The pronominal object, "me," is also
> missing from the original. Thirdly, the phrase "una cum" in the last
> section is correctly construed with the first two nouns it
> governs, but the second pair of nouns are more clumsily rendered as
> accusative objects of the verb "comportat," which itself is not the
> best choice for this phrase.
>
> Stylistically, as noted above, the word order of the present
> version is far more English than Latin in flavor, and makes the text
> rather choppy.
> The principal verbs have been moved to their more normal final
> position in the sentences, and a (hopefully) more graceful word and
> phrase order used throughout. "Hoc ipso facto" in the first paragraph
> has been changed to "hac re ipsa," and the very difficult "ut" clause
> in the second paragraph has been supplanted by an ablative absolute
> (though a present participle might also work), for this is poor
> Latin, as noted by Aulus Aenobarbus and Emilia Curia Finnica,
> and "aliquid" replaced by the more normal, and better
> sounding, "quid" in the third paragraph.
>
> I would like to acknowledge gratefully the assistance of Praetor
> Gnaeus Octavius Noricus in preparing this text, which I have written
> and he has reviewed with suggestions for improvement, and thank
> Aedilis Plebis Emilia Curia Finnica and Aulus Aenobarbus for their
> extensive and well-done expositions on the original text. Herzlichen
> Dank, Praetor Noricus, and thanks also to Emilia Curia Finnica and
> Aulus Aenobarbus for pointing out some of the errors in the text of
> this oath. We hope that you, Quirites, like this version, and that
> future magistrates will use it, and that no previous authors will
> take offense at these emendations.
>
> Valete,
>
> Flavia Tullia Valeria Scholastica

Thank you very much, Flavia Tullia, for providing this translation to us.

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From the lawrensnest web site

!! Roman Day Northeast 2004 !!
May 15, 2004
Woodstock Fairgrounds, Equestrian Center
Woodstock, CT
10 am to 4 pm
Contact: lawrensnest@...

Join us for Roman Day Northeast! We have rented an equestrian park so we can have military maneuvers and gladiatorial combat in fun and safety. We would like to welcome members of Legios III, VIIII, X, XX and XXIV, and the Magnus Ludus Gladiatore (School of the Great Gladiator) who will be fighting it out in the ring.
Find out what it was like to be a Roman solider by visiting our military encampments. Or, find out what it was like to be a barbarian in the Roman empire by visiting our Barbarian encampment. There will be dice games and a Roman ball game to play throughout the day. Bring the kids for a fun day of making mosaics, coloring and storytelling (parents must supervise their own children). Bean the barbarian or bean the centurion. What would a day in Rome be without the Roman Market Place? Stop by our Merchants' Row and bring home a handcrafted item or trinket. If you are a legionnaire or a citizen of Rome and would like to be a part of this year's Roman Day Northeast or would like to vend, please contact La Wren's Nest at the above e-mail. More information, directions, hotels, etc are available on the Roman Day Northeast page at http://www.lawrensbasement.com/RomanDaysNE.html.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus










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Salvete civies,

I wish to formally announce to all that the censors through their
hard work have approved my citizenship in Nova Roma and that I am
honored to be part of the gens Galeria. I look forward to many great
times in Nova Roma and anything I can do for the res publica. I
salute the honorable Senators, Pontiffs, Censors, and all others of
Nova Roma pledging to be as valuable an asset as possible.
Valete,
Publius Galerius Cicero (Brandon W.)
America Austrorientalis

Salve Publius Galerius Cicero

WELCOME my dear nephew ( your young enough to qualify) (and I already have plenty of cousins ) I hope that you enjoy you next 40 -50 years with us and all Nova Romans!!!! You have picked the BEST family in all the world.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon W.
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] New Citizen


Salvete civies,

I wish to formally announce to all that the censors through their
hard work have approved my citizenship in Nova Roma and that I am
honored to be part of the gens Galeria. I look forward to many great
times in Nova Roma and anything I can do for the res publica. I
salute the honorable Senators, Pontiffs, Censors, and all others of
Nova Roma pledging to be as valuable an asset as possible.
Valete,
Publius Galerius Cicero (Brandon W.)
America Austrorientalis





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Salve Publi,

Congratulations on your citizenship! You chose a great and very
active gens. Enjoy your time with us and please do not hesitate to
ask for any help from me or the others in the ML.

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon W."
<publius_galerius_cicero@y...> wrote:

> Salvete civies,
>
> I wish to formally announce to all that the censors through their
> hard work have approved my citizenship in Nova Roma and that I am
> honored to be part of the gens Galeria. I look forward to many

great

> times in Nova Roma and anything I can do for the res publica. I
> salute the honorable Senators, Pontiffs, Censors, and all others of
> Nova Roma pledging to be as valuable an asset as possible.
> Valete,
> Publius Galerius Cicero (Brandon W.)
> America Austrorientalis

Ex Officio Censoris Iunioris Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani

Edictum Censoris CFQ I de Nominationibus in Cohorte Censoris CFQ (The
First Censorial edict CFQ I on the appointments in the Cohors
Censoris CFQ)

I. Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus, Civis Britannia Provincia,
is hereby appointed Scriba Censoris.

II. Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus is hereby granted
authorization to view and edit any citizen information that is
necessary in order to perform the duties assigned to him by the
Censores

III. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given the 18th of January, in the year of the Consulship of Gnaeus
Salix Astur and Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, 2757 AUC.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Salvete Omnes,

The Sodalitas Geographica is being changed to Sodalitas Geographiae.
Effective immediately. A thank you to Flavia Tullia for her help in Latin. Thank
you all and have a great day.

BENE.VALETE.
MANENS.IN.AMORE.ROMAE.
ET.FORTIS.IN.FIDE.
GNAEVS.SCRIBONIVS.SCRIPTOR.
OPTIO.IN.SODALITATIS.MILITARIUM.
ET.DOMINUS.SODALITATIS.GEOGRAPHIAE.
NOVAE.ROMAE.ET.LEGIONIS.XXIVAE.MA.


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Spectati Cives,

in Italy two marvellous calendars are available for sale.

Neither is NR product.
One is made by a Roman religion community that I personally wouldn't suggest to
join. Nevertheless their calendar is perfectly and carefully made. Ten dollars.

The second, beautiful and correct under every regard has been made by a true authority in Roman religion, Prof. Renato del Ponte. Still ten dollars.
If anyone is interested I could help sending copies to people asking, or I could be sending a stock
to Nova Roma and NR will distribute it afterwards.
If the people concerned wiyh such a topic contact I can give any help willingly.
I would like to underline that i wouldnìt be making money at all and I shall only send
copies.
Reverenter

Gallus Solaris Alexander

Bononia

Italia

Salve Gallus Solaris Alexander,
I had been researching the possibility of making a professional mosaic Roman
calendar but I am afraid that I all I found out is that it would be
ridiculously expensive. Naturally, pre-made calendars suddenly sound quite
appealing. Is there any information about the 2 calendars available on the internet?
If they are truely well-made, I would be interested in purchasing one
through you immediately. Or Perhaps the Senate can put some money aside to
purchase a large set and sell it through the Marcellum.
Vale,
Iulius Titinius Antonius


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Salve,

I too would like to see a link to these calendars, if that is
possible.

gratias,
Arnamentia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, StarVVreck@a... wrote:
> Salve Gallus Solaris Alexander,
> I had been researching the possibility of making a professional
mosaic Roman
> calendar but I am afraid that I all I found out is that it would
be
> ridiculously expensive. Naturally, pre-made calendars suddenly
sound quite
> appealing. Is there any information about the 2 calendars
available on the internet?
> If they are truely well-made, I would be interested in purchasing
one
> through you immediately. Or Perhaps the Senate can put some money
aside to
> purchase a large set and sell it through the Marcellum.
> Vale,
> Iulius Titinius Antonius
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Timelines for Ancient Roman History":

http://www.slu.edu/colleges/AS/languages/classical/latin/tchmat/pedagogy/chron/romchr-i.html

This extensive timeline is adapted from the tables given by Sir John
Edwin Sandys, _A Companion to Latin Studies_, 3rd ed. (Cambridge,
1921), by the St. Louis University Latin Teaching Materials site.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Spectata Aurelia,

unfortunately none of them is visible on the Internet.

The first mentioned is a bit smaller in size, it contains the nowadays name and number of the day and the Roman one.
Each day has the festivity occurring and plenty occurrences such as Emperors Birthday,
but Divi only, temple dedications.
Every month has a philosophical description.
The Del Ponte one is bigger, same structure less imperial anniversaries, more religious staff.
Every explanation is in italian.
Let me remind you all that Renato del Ponte is the best italian expert on Roman Religion,
and I'm not exxagerating at all.

At your disposal

Gallus Solaris Alexander

Spectate Antonie,They're perfect and acuurate, amice.

I repeat, just send me your adress, I shall send the calendar.

Obviously I am at complete disposale of Senatus if interested.

Reverenter

Gallus Solaris Alexander

Salve,
Last year I attempted to make a Roman calendar using Apple's iCal
program but, was not able to make much headway due some personal
problems. If anyone else is using Mac OSX have you thought about making
one with iCal? Here is a site that has 1593 calendar's made by iCal:

http://www.icalshare.com/

This will give ya'll an idea what can be done with iCal. There is a
Religion section of calendars to look at also.

Vale,

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus

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Salvete,
This year my brother used Publisher 98 to make a great calandar for his wife
as a holiday gift . It's not shiney but it was quite resonable in cost . It
was quite a nice gift actually .

I dont think we need a real fancy affair . Something nicely done and
reasonable so we can make it a real fund raiser for us .

in service

Prima Fabia Drusila
Provincia Lacus Magni
Legatus Regionis Occidentalis
(Indiana ,Illinois)


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Salvete!

In response to Gaia Fabia Livia's remarks, I think it would be wonderful to come up with a Roman movie! There are so many topics in Roman history that have either never been portrayed or have been somewhat misrepresented. Now is the time to set these stories straight!

For example, I think it would be quite interesting to make a movie about Tiberius' life and rule. He is a very complex character, rich in psychological paradoxes, and he remains an enigma even to modern historians. I believe that during his reign, he was sort of entangled in a spider's web of intrigues from which he and his reputation could never escape. Also, if you are into romance, there is a tragic love story in his life.

Another era in Roman History not often the subject of movies are the 4th and 5th centuries AD just before the fall of Rome in 476 AD. There are a number of interesting characters and interesting events-Theodosius and his two weak sons Arcadius and Honorius, Flavius Stilicho, Theodosius II and John Chrystostom. Not to mention the sack of Alaric, Attila the Hun and the Gothic Wars!!

I hope these potential movies will one day hit the screen! Vale, Vipsania


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The public welfare is the greatest law-Cicero

F Gal Aur Sec Fal

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus Fal to Brandon. Salve.

Hello, my young cousin. I haven't heard from you in a while. There are pictures and instructions for making the fasces on the website of the XXIV Legion. I recommend using less dowels for a stage production and using a Revolutionary or French&Indian War hatchet or tomahawk for the axe. The full-sized fasces were pretty heavy at times. If you can find somebody with a copy of the Osprey Publication THE PRAETORIANS, there is a good color plate showing the Lictor Proxima of the Emperor Traian.

In regards to making togas for stage productions, get the heaviest weight 60" wide muslin that you can afford. You will need about 6 yards for a 6' tall man. Trim the fabric into a semi-circle with about six inches at either end and full depth at the bottom of the arc. Sew a 6-8" inch wide purple stripe to the straight edge for a senator, consul, censor, or pontiff; 3-4" wide for an equites. The Emperor's toga should be dyed purple with gold metallic trim along the straight edge.

When we did a play using this material, we had to pin the toga at the left shoulder because the muslin was slick and slipped around a bit. This is not period but, hey, this is theatre we are talking about. Also, it is a good idea to keep your left arm bend and hold the toga to the chest for stability. Senators and some magistrates also wore red ankle boots/ sandals with crescents on the top of the shoe.

I hope this helps. Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Today is ante diem XIV Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is ante diem XIII Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Here's link to "Latin Place Names":

http://as3.lib.byu.edu/%7Ecatalog/people/rlm/latin/names.htm

This site is a publication of the Bibiliograhic Standards Committee of
the Rare Books and Manuscripts Section of the Associal of College and
Research Libraries. While many of the entries are medieval, a number
oc useful classical equivalents can be found here.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurusf

Test =)
xgvburrygxdfmmfbv
--
Test, yep.


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Salvete!

I hereby officially appoint Franciscus Apulus Caesar
as the new Dominus Factionis for Russata. I have seen
that many people support this appointment, and I am
sure Caesar will do a great job in this function.
Congratulations!


!!! RUSSATA FOREVER !!!


Valete bene

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Scriba Propraetoris Galliae
**HORVM OMNIVM FORTISSIME SVNT BELGAE**

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Salve Aedile Scaurus,
thank you very much, I'm so happy to be the new Dominus of the Reds.
This year will be the year of our Factio, Russata will must to win
everything and avoid the past unlucky races.

Thank too our wonderful former Dominus Cicatrix, he did a great job!

RUSSATA RA RA RA
RUSSATA RA RA RA
RUSSATA RA RA RA

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Dominus Russatae

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Temmerman
<consulromanus@y...> wrote:

> Salvete!
>
> I hereby officially appoint Franciscus Apulus Caesar
> as the new Dominus Factionis for Russata. I have seen
> that many people support this appointment, and I am
> sure Caesar will do a great job in this function.
> Congratulations!
>
>
> !!! RUSSATA FOREVER !!!
>
>
> Valete bene
>
> =====
> Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
> ----------
> Paterfamilias Gentis Apolloniae
> Scriba Propraetoris Galliae
> **HORVM OMNIVM FORTISSIME SVNT BELGAE**
>
>

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Hi! Yep, yep.

xgvburrygxdfmmfbv is 'is', received loud and clear, ahh, 'whatever' it
is :)

Po

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lafaustus@y... wrote:

> Test =)
> xgvburrygxdfmmfbv
> --
> Test, yep.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The Virus that was attached to the mail was blocked by the no
attachments policy of this list.

I Got two more sent to pontiffs@... from consuls@...
that did contain viruses.

Someone in Nova Roma has an infected computer.

Drusus


pompeia_cornelia wrote:

> ---
>
>
> Hi! Yep, yep.
>
> xgvburrygxdfmmfbv is 'is', received loud and clear, ahh, 'whatever' it
> is :)
>
> Po
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lafaustus@y... wrote:
> > Test =)
> > xgvburrygxdfmmfbv
> > --
> > Test, yep.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Salvete Omnes.

This has nothing to do with Roma, but I'm sure that many of you are
intrested in other areas of history, and this concerns one of them, the
Second World War.

The Entire Collection of Aerial Reconnaissance Photographs made by the
RAF during the Second World War will be placed on the internet starting
today. Over 5 Million of them ranging from shots of the Bismark while
she was being hunted, The Invasion at Normandy, and the Crematoriums at
Auschwitz billowing smoke.

This site will become a valued refereance for those of us who are
intrested in this era of history.

www.evidenceincamera.co.uk.

Drusus

Salve Senator Drusus,
I can't visit it because the website is too required
BTW I have seen some images yesterday in an italian TV show. They
are very impressive and tragical. In some pics of Auschwitz it's
possible to see the long of the prisoners entering in the gas-room.
I agree, this website is one of the most important historical source
and first of all in my opinion a good way to understand what were
the human tragedies of the WWII and of the war.

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus" <drusus@b...>
wrote:

> Salvete Omnes.
>
> This has nothing to do with Roma, but I'm sure that many of you

are

> intrested in other areas of history, and this concerns one of

them, the

> Second World War.
>
> The Entire Collection of Aerial Reconnaissance Photographs made by

the

> RAF during the Second World War will be placed on the internet

starting

> today. Over 5 Million of them ranging from shots of the Bismark

while

> she was being hunted, The Invasion at Normandy, and the

Crematoriums at

> Auschwitz billowing smoke.
>
> This site will become a valued refereance for those of us who are
> intrested in this era of history.
>
> www.evidenceincamera.co.uk.
>
> Drusus

Salve


I uploaded an archive (calen57.doc, MS Word), that is
the calendar that i use, privately, to help me with
the annales and the various ludi.
Is basically the gregorian calendar, with latin names,
the mensal markers (calendas, idus, nonas), market
days and festivals/games depicted.

I dont know if it is something close to what you want,
but perhaps it can help.

BTW, a lot of people here dont use MS Word; can
anybody convert (or teach me) to adobe or something
so?


Vale
M.Arminius


--- Charlie Collins <photog@...> escreveu: >
Salve,

> Last year I attempted to make a Roman calendar
> using Apple's iCal
> program but, was not able to make much headway due
> some personal
> problems. If anyone else is using Mac OSX have you
> thought about making
> one with iCal? Here is a site that has 1593
> calendar's made by iCal:
>
> http://www.icalshare.com/
>
> This will give ya'll an idea what can be done with
> iCal. There is a
> Religion section of calendars to look at also.
>
> Vale,
> Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus

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Salvete


I, Marcus Arminius Maior, Lictor of Nova Roma and member of the
Comitia Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of
Imperium, the power to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws,
to the duly elected Nova Roma Magistrates for the year 2757 AUC.

As a Lictor of Nova Roma, I likewise acknowledge Imperium for the
reconfirmed and newly named Provincial Magistrates, including those
who may be appointed during the coming year.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the
Magistrates of Nova Roma, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to
use their Imperium for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May
this sacred bond bring favor upon our Nation and our Citizens in this
coming year.


Valete,
Marcus Arminius Maior
Lictor of Comitia Curiata

Salvete

Thanks to my colleague Gn Octavius, a version in adobe is available
in the files section.

Vale
M.Arminius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, M Arminius Maior <marminius@y...>
wrote:

> Salve

[..]

> BTW, a lot of people here dont use MS Word; can
> anybody convert (or teach me) to adobe or something
> so?
> Vale
> M.Arminius

Brandon:

This Gallio Marsallas. I made the Fasces on the Legio XXIV page.
It was not all that easy to make. Holding the rods in position as you glue
and
bind them takes about four hands, but I used large rubber bands to hold
things
together. Assemble and glue the bundle in stages, as doing it all would be
a nightmare.
Also, burying the ax and handle in the rod bundle requires that a number of
the
rods be cut, notched, beveled or shaved to fit well.
The rods are 3/4 inch diameter, but I would recommend maybe 5/8 inch
diameter,
which I now believe would be more accurate as to size.
My fasces turned out to be on the large size, but it is impressive.
Fasces probably came in varying sizes, so your idea of what looks right
would
probably suffice.

Good Luck

Gallio / George Legion XXIV

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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Nova Roma Coin on eBay Experiment
From: StarVVreck@...
2. Re: Livius
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
3. Re: Historical Help for a Play
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
4. ante diem XV Kalendae Februarii
From: "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@...>
5. Latin Translation of the Oath of Office
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@...>
6. Events 2004 FYI
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
7. New Citizen
From: "Brandon W." <publius_galerius_cicero@...>
8. Re: New Citizen
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
9. Re: New Citizen
From: "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)"
<mjk@...>
10. Edictum Censorius CFQ I de Nominationibus in Cohorte Censoris CFQ
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@...>
11. Change in name for Sodalitas Geographica.......
From: Scriboni89@...
12. Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?
From: "sa-mann\@libero\.it" <sa-mann@...>
13. Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?
From: StarVVreck@...
14. Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?
From: "Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia" <arnamentia_aurelia@...>
15. Timelines for Ancient Roman History
From: "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@...>
16. Re:Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?
From: "sa-mann\@libero\.it" <sa-mann@...>
17. Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?
From: "sa-mann\@libero\.it" <sa-mann@...>
18. Calendars
From: Charlie Collins <photog@...>
19. Re: Calendars
From: asseri@...
20. Re: New Spartacus Miniseries
From: jaleh mansouri <vipasaniamagna@...>


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:41:39 EST
From: StarVVreck@...
Subject: Nova Roma Coin on eBay Experiment

Salve Civies,
I intend on placing a single Nova Roma coin onto eBay as an experiment.
I've been including a Nova Roma coin in my occassional eBay auctions as a
free
bonus, however I would like to see if the coin itself could capture any
attention. I initially purchased 60 of the coins and I'm now down to just
below
40. I'd prefer if Nova-Roma citizens don't bid on it (hence, not including
a
link to the auction) because I'm hoping that it will get the attention of
people not currently aware of Nova Roma. However, since the Nova-Roma
coins are
currently sold out, if you do not have any I won't object if you bid on it.
Please do not bid on it if you have any of the coins. The auction page will
essentially be a copy & paste of the coin page on novaroma.org.
Vale,
Iulius Titinius Antonius


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:55:37 -0500
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
Subject: Re: Livius

Salve

No I don't , as I was just there one day last week one article was last
updated January 9 2004 so it must have been there as recently as that but
where it has gone is anybody's guest. Jonas Lendering was very good to the
Eagle last year and we had permission to use anything on his site. We are
forever grateful for his
willingness to help. If it does not come back in some form it will be sorely
missed.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
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Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Livius


Salvete Omnes,

Does anyone know what happened to Livius.org? They are a site that has
many articles on Ancient History. I can't access their site. It says it no
longer exists. Anyone know what happened?

BENE.VALE.
MANENS.IN.AMORE.ROMAE.
ET.FORTIS.IN.FIDE.
GNAEVS.SCRIBONIVS.SCRIPTOR.
OPTIO.SODALITATIS.MILITARIUM.
NOVAE.ROMAE.ET.LEGIONIS.XXIVAE.MA.


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:25:55 -0500
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
Subject: Re: Historical Help for a Play

Salve Brandon for the Fasces you should go to the Lego XXIV page as listed
here

http://www.legionxxiv.org/fasces%20page/ Look like it would be easy to
make.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Historical Help for a Play


Salve,

I will be helping out in a play within the next few months that
involves Romans naturally and I need some historical help.
Magistrates will have a part in it therefore we wished to employ
the fasces as well as the toga. From the pictures of the citizens I
have seen most of the men have their togas and the internet has so
many descriptions of what it should look like how it should fold and
the length and pattern; can a Nova Roman help in this area? Also
does anyone happen to know th dimensions of the fasces; I know what
they looked like as well as their purpose but not how big. Any help
or websites you can post for me would be great. Gratias
Valete, Brandon






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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:13:41 -0000
From: "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@...>
Subject: ante diem XV Kalendae Februarii

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Today is ante diem XV Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is ante diem XIV Kalendae Februarii; the day is comitialis.

Valete.

G. Iuli
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex




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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:54:12 +0100 (CET)
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur <salixastur@...>
Subject: Latin Translation of the Oath of Office

Cn. Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

For several years, our magistrates have sworn an oath upon their
appointment. This oath is officially defined by the Lex Iunia de
Iusiurando:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/1999-10-19-ii.html

Some of our magistrates, in an effort to be closer to our forefathers,
have sworn a Latin translation of that oath at the same time as the
official English oath. Several such translations have circulated.

After some comments on this forum about the correctness of one of such
translations, I asked Flavia Tullia, our resident latinist, to provide
a translation of the official oath of office that could be presented to
the public as a possible addendum to that official oath of office.

She, with the help of other citizens like Praetor Cn. Octavius Noricus,
Aedilis Plebeia Emilia Curia Finnica and Aulus Aenobarbus, has managed
to fulfill this petition in a timely and proper manner. Pontifex C.
Iulius Scaurus acceded to revise the text and gave his "imprimatur". So
here it is:

Ego, ____________________hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me
defensurum/am, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum/am
esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego,____________________officio ___________________[consulis, etc.]
Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae
temporibus me culturum/am, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita
me persecuturum/am esse IVRO.

Ego____________________Religioni Romanae me fauturum/am et eam
defensurum/am, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum/am
esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, ___________________officiis muneris______________________me quam
optime functurum/am esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus ___________________una cum
iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

What do you think, citizens? Should this Latin translation be added to
our official oath, so that the oath is made both in Latin and English?
I find it very appropriate, but I would like to know your opinion.

Flavia Tullia's explanation of the corrections needed by the previous
translation follows:

> Flavia Tullia quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque omnibus salutem
> plurimam dicit.
>
> Recently, several individuals posted comments on the Latinitas
> site regarding the correctness of the Latin in that version of the
> Nova Roman oath of office, a matter I had privately called to the
> attention of two magistrates.
>
> Among these postings was a very thorough analysis by Aedilis
> Plebis Emilia Curia Finnica, to which I responded at length. As a
> result of these messages, Senior Consul Gnaeus Salix Astur asked me
> to provide a corrected rendition of the Latin version of the oath of
> office. This has now been completed with the very able assistance of
> Praetor Gnaeus Octavius Noricus, who is very learned in the finer
> points of Latin grammar, and has been approved by Pontifex and Flamen
> Quirinalis Gaius Iulius Scaurus and transmitted to Consul Gnaeus
> Salix Astur, who will post it together with this explanation.
>
> This revision was undertaken for several reasons. There are
> numerous grammatical errors in the existing Latin text, which I shall
> detail below, as well as some of vocabulary. Moreover, the text as a
> whole is stylistically flawed, reflecting English rather than Latin
> word order and phraseology.
>
> Grammatically speaking, as Emilia Curia Finnica and Aulus
> Aenobarbus pointed out, (as did I privately), two verbs, "favere"
> and "fungi" are construed with the wrong cases. The former normally
> takes the dative, and the latter, the ablative, whereas both are
> construed with the accusative in the existing version. Secondly, the
> verb "iuro" requires the indirect statement construction rather than
> the simple infinitive used here, and, as Praetor Noricus pointed out,
> the future infinitive is better Latin than the present infinitive
> used in the existing oath. The pronominal object, "me," is also
> missing from the original. Thirdly, the phrase "una cum" in the last
> section is correctly construed with the first two nouns it
> governs, but the second pair of nouns are more clumsily rendered as
> accusative objects of the verb "comportat," which itself is not the
> best choice for this phrase.
>
> Stylistically, as noted above, the word order of the present
> version is far more English than Latin in flavor, and makes the text
> rather choppy.
> The principal verbs have been moved to their more normal final
> position in the sentences, and a (hopefully) more graceful word and
> phrase order used throughout. "Hoc ipso facto" in the first paragraph
> has been changed to "hac re ipsa," and the very difficult "ut" clause
> in the second paragraph has been supplanted by an ablative absolute
> (though a present participle might also work), for this is poor
> Latin, as noted by Aulus Aenobarbus and Emilia Curia Finnica,
> and "aliquid" replaced by the more normal, and better
> sounding, "quid" in the third paragraph.
>
> I would like to acknowledge gratefully the assistance of Praetor
> Gnaeus Octavius Noricus in preparing this text, which I have written
> and he has reviewed with suggestions for improvement, and thank
> Aedilis Plebis Emilia Curia Finnica and Aulus Aenobarbus for their
> extensive and well-done expositions on the original text. Herzlichen
> Dank, Praetor Noricus, and thanks also to Emilia Curia Finnica and
> Aulus Aenobarbus for pointing out some of the errors in the text of
> this oath. We hope that you, Quirites, like this version, and that
> future magistrates will use it, and that no previous authors will
> take offense at these emendations.
>
> Valete,
>
> Flavia Tullia Valeria Scholastica

Thank you very much, Flavia Tullia, for providing this translation to us.

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:49:58 -0500
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
Subject: Events 2004 FYI

Salve FYI

From the lawrensnest web site

!! Roman Day Northeast 2004 !!
May 15, 2004
Woodstock Fairgrounds, Equestrian Center
Woodstock, CT
10 am to 4 pm
Contact: lawrensnest@...

Join us for Roman Day Northeast! We have rented an equestrian park so we can
have military maneuvers and gladiatorial combat in fun and safety. We would
like to welcome members of Legios III, VIIII, X, XX and XXIV, and the Magnus
Ludus Gladiatore (School of the Great Gladiator) who will be fighting it out
in the ring.
Find out what it was like to be a Roman solider by visiting our military
encampments. Or, find out what it was like to be a barbarian in the Roman
empire by visiting our Barbarian encampment. There will be dice games and a
Roman ball game to play throughout the day. Bring the kids for a fun day
of making mosaics, coloring and storytelling (parents must supervise their
own children). Bean the barbarian or bean the centurion. What would a day
in Rome be without the Roman Market Place? Stop by our Merchants' Row and
bring home a handcrafted item or trinket. If you are a legionnaire or a
citizen of Rome and would like to be a part of this year's Roman Day
Northeast or would like to vend, please contact La Wren's Nest at the above
e-mail. More information, directions, hotels, etc are available on the Roman
Day Northeast page at http://www.lawrensbasement.com/RomanDaysNE.html.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus










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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:06:45 -0000
From: "Brandon W." <publius_galerius_cicero@...>
Subject: New Citizen

Salvete civies,

I wish to formally announce to all that the censors through their
hard work have approved my citizenship in Nova Roma and that I am
honored to be part of the gens Galeria. I look forward to many great
times in Nova Roma and anything I can do for the res publica. I
salute the honorable Senators, Pontiffs, Censors, and all others of
Nova Roma pledging to be as valuable an asset as possible.
Valete,
Publius Galerius Cicero (Brandon W.)
America Austrorientalis



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:04:25 -0500
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
Subject: Re: New Citizen

Salve Publius Galerius Cicero

WELCOME my dear nephew ( your young enough to qualify) (and I already have
plenty of cousins ) I hope that you enjoy you next 40 -50 years with us and
all Nova Romans!!!! You have picked the BEST family in all the world.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon W.
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] New Citizen


Salvete civies,

I wish to formally announce to all that the censors through their
hard work have approved my citizenship in Nova Roma and that I am
honored to be part of the gens Galeria. I look forward to many great
times in Nova Roma and anything I can do for the res publica. I
salute the honorable Senators, Pontiffs, Censors, and all others of
Nova Roma pledging to be as valuable an asset as possible.
Valete,
Publius Galerius Cicero (Brandon W.)
America Austrorientalis





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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:43:31 -0000
From: "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@...>
Subject: Re: New Citizen

Salve Publi,

Congratulations on your citizenship! You chose a great and very
active gens. Enjoy your time with us and please do not hesitate to
ask for any help from me or the others in the ML.

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon W."
<publius_galerius_cicero@y...> wrote:
> Salvete civies,
>
> I wish to formally announce to all that the censors through their
> hard work have approved my citizenship in Nova Roma and that I am
> honored to be part of the gens Galeria. I look forward to many
great
> times in Nova Roma and anything I can do for the res publica. I
> salute the honorable Senators, Pontiffs, Censors, and all others of
> Nova Roma pledging to be as valuable an asset as possible.
> Valete,
> Publius Galerius Cicero (Brandon W.)
> America Austrorientalis



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:29:35 +0100
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@...>
Subject: Edictum Censorius CFQ I de Nominationibus in Cohorte Censoris CFQ

Ex Officio Censoris Iunioris Caesonis Fabii Quintiliani

Edictum Censoris CFQ I de Nominationibus in Cohorte Censoris CFQ (The
First Censorial edict CFQ I on the appointments in the Cohors
Censoris CFQ)

I. Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus, Civis Britannia Provincia,
is hereby appointed Scriba Censoris.

II. Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus is hereby granted
authorization to view and edit any citizen information that is
necessary in order to perform the duties assigned to him by the
Censores

III. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given the 18th of January, in the year of the Consulship of Gnaeus
Salix Astur and Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, 2757 AUC.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Censor, Consularis et Senator
Proconsul Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:35:11 EST
From: Scriboni89@...
Subject: Change in name for Sodalitas Geographica.......

Salvete Omnes,

The Sodalitas Geographica is being changed to Sodalitas Geographiae.
Effective immediately. A thank you to Flavia Tullia for her help in Latin.
Thank
you all and have a great day.

BENE.VALETE.
MANENS.IN.AMORE.ROMAE.
ET.FORTIS.IN.FIDE.
GNAEVS.SCRIBONIVS.SCRIPTOR.
OPTIO.IN.SODALITATIS.MILITARIUM.
ET.DOMINUS.SODALITATIS.GEOGRAPHIAE.
NOVAE.ROMAE.ET.LEGIONIS.XXIVAE.MA.


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:43:49 +0100
From: "sa-mann\@libero\.it" <sa-mann@...>
Subject: Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?

Spectati Cives,

in Italy two marvellous calendars are available for sale.

Neither is NR product.
One is made by a Roman religion community that I personally wouldn't suggest
to
join. Nevertheless their calendar is perfectly and carefully made. Ten
dollars.

The second, beautiful and correct under every regard has been made by a true
authority in Roman religion, Prof. Renato del Ponte. Still ten dollars.
If anyone is interested I could help sending copies to people asking, or I
could be sending a stock
to Nova Roma and NR will distribute it afterwards.
If the people concerned wiyh such a topic contact I can give any help
willingly.
I would like to underline that i wouldnìt be making money at all and I shall
only send
copies.
Reverenter

Gallus Solaris Alexander

Bononia

Italia



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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:58:48 EST
From: StarVVreck@...
Subject: Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?

Salve Gallus Solaris Alexander,
I had been researching the possibility of making a professional mosaic
Roman
calendar but I am afraid that I all I found out is that it would be
ridiculously expensive. Naturally, pre-made calendars suddenly sound quite
appealing. Is there any information about the 2 calendars available on the
internet?
If they are truely well-made, I would be interested in purchasing one
through you immediately. Or Perhaps the Senate can put some money aside to
purchase a large set and sell it through the Marcellum.
Vale,
Iulius Titinius Antonius


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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:52:46 -0000
From: "Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia" <arnamentia_aurelia@...>
Subject: Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?

Salve,

I too would like to see a link to these calendars, if that is
possible.

gratias,
Arnamentia


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, StarVVreck@a... wrote:
> Salve Gallus Solaris Alexander,
> I had been researching the possibility of making a professional
mosaic Roman
> calendar but I am afraid that I all I found out is that it would
be
> ridiculously expensive. Naturally, pre-made calendars suddenly
sound quite
> appealing. Is there any information about the 2 calendars
available on the internet?
> If they are truely well-made, I would be interested in purchasing
one
> through you immediately. Or Perhaps the Senate can put some money
aside to
> purchase a large set and sell it through the Marcellum.
> Vale,
> Iulius Titinius Antonius
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:56:11 -0000
From: "g_iulius_scaurus" <gfr@...>
Subject: Timelines for Ancient Roman History

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Timelines for Ancient Roman History":

http://www.slu.edu/colleges/AS/languages/classical/latin/tchmat/pedagogy/chron/romchr-i.html

This extensive timeline is adapted from the tables given by Sir John
Edwin Sandys, _A Companion to Latin Studies_, 3rd ed. (Cambridge,
1921), by the St. Louis University Latin Teaching Materials site.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus




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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:52:07 +0100
From: "sa-mann\@libero\.it" <sa-mann@...>
Subject: Re:Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?

Spectata Aurelia,

unfortunately none of them is visible on the Internet.

The first mentioned is a bit smaller in size, it contains the nowadays name
and number of the day and the Roman one.
Each day has the festivity occurring and plenty occurrences such as Emperors
Birthday,
but Divi only, temple dedications.
Every month has a philosophical description.
The Del Ponte one is bigger, same structure less imperial anniversaries,
more religious staff.
Every explanation is in italian.
Let me remind you all that Renato del Ponte is the best italian expert on
Roman Religion,
and I'm not exxagerating at all.

At your disposal

Gallus Solaris Alexander



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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:00:46 +0100
From: "sa-mann\@libero\.it" <sa-mann@...>
Subject: Re: Calanders forsale in the Marcellum?

Spectate Antonie,They're perfect and acuurate, amice.

I repeat, just send me your adress, I shall send the calendar.

Obviously I am at complete disposale of Senatus if interested.

Reverenter

Gallus Solaris Alexander



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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:34:10 -0600
From: Charlie Collins <photog@...>
Subject: Calendars

Salve,
Last year I attempted to make a Roman calendar using Apple's iCal
program but, was not able to make much headway due some personal
problems. If anyone else is using Mac OSX have you thought about making
one with iCal? Here is a site that has 1593 calendar's made by iCal:

http://www.icalshare.com/

This will give ya'll an idea what can be done with iCal. There is a
Religion section of calendars to look at also.

Vale,

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus

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AIM: KSDeist



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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:33:57 EST
From: asseri@...
Subject: Re: Calendars

Salvete,
This year my brother used Publisher 98 to make a great calandar for his wife
as a holiday gift . It's not shiney but it was quite resonable in cost . It
was quite a nice gift actually .

I dont think we need a real fancy affair . Something nicely done and
reasonable so we can make it a real fund raiser for us .

in service

Prima Fabia Drusila
Provincia Lacus Magni
Legatus Regionis Occidentalis
(Indiana ,Illinois)


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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:57:57 -0800 (PST)
From: jaleh mansouri <vipasaniamagna@...>
Subject: Re: New Spartacus Miniseries

Salvete!

In response to Gaia Fabia Livia's remarks, I think it would be wonderful to
come up with a Roman movie! There are so many topics in Roman history that
have either never been portrayed or have been somewhat misrepresented. Now
is the time to set these stories straight!

For example, I think it would be quite interesting to make a movie about
Tiberius' life and rule. He is a very complex character, rich in
psychological paradoxes, and he remains an enigma even to modern historians.
I believe that during his reign, he was sort of entangled in a spider's web
of intrigues from which he and his reputation could never escape. Also, if
you are into romance, there is a tragic love story in his life.

Another era in Roman History not often the subject of movies are the 4th and
5th centuries AD just before the fall of Rome in 476 AD. There are a number
of interesting characters and interesting events-Theodosius and his two weak
sons Arcadius and Honorius, Flavius Stilicho, Theodosius II and John
Chrystostom. Not to mention the sack of Alaric, Attila the Hun and the
Gothic Wars!!

I hope these potential movies will one day hit the screen! Vale, Vipsania


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