Salvete,

I am going onto the hospital on May 7th for a cesearian section. I
would like to know of any gods the children can focus on or any
simple rituals that can be done by them for their mother and baby
sister. Please remember that my children are 5 and 7 (on Wednsday).

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Pax,
Crys

Domus Ludus
Non scholae sed vitae discimus
Certified in Child Psychology and Human Development
http://www.geocities.com/cas_the_author/DomusLudus/
DomusLudus@...

>But if a single magistrate does such a thing in the
>future, that is a citizen who ought to have been
>taught a lesson in responsibility.

Since this it not even close to the first time someone has quit and
rejoined, we've quite a lengthy set of precedents in these cases. I will
agree to such a "lesson" only if it is retroactive and includes everyone who
has ever resigned a magistracy or citizenship.

>From: "A. Apollonius Cordus" <a_apollonius_cordus@...>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Resignation
>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:01:17 +0100 (BST)
>
>A. Apollonius Cordus to Equestria Iunia Laeca, and to
>all his fellow-citizens and all peregrines, greetings.
>
> > Resignations should not be dismissed as trivial, the
> > departed citizens
> > should not be condemned and current and future
> > citizens do not need to be
> > taught a lesson on responsibility.
>
>I hope the last of your three statements proves to be
>correct: the test will be whether we ever again see a
>magistrate resign his or her office without warning
>and without making adequate preparations to hand over
>their duties to his or her successor. If it never
>happens again, I shall bow to your greater foresight.

>
>
>
>
>
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Friends;

Some idiot filled my mailbox with unsolicited garbage over Saturday
Night when we were away visiting. My mailbox is now clear, and I shall
deal with said idiot in an appropriate manner.

Respectfully;

Jim Mathews (Marcus Minucius-Tiberius Audens ----Ian McKay)


Wishing you all the best, with Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

Thanks to the aedilis Iulius Scaurus and to my dominus Equitius
Marinus for their congratulations.
My respects for the citizen Audens and his chariot.

It was a great race, but the winner is only one... Albata ;-)


Salix Galaicus, victor Feriae Latinae


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<gawne@c...> wrote:

> Salvete Quirites,
>
> g_iulius_scaurus wrote:
>
> [a thrilling race]
>
> > Albata prevails!
> >
> > Vesanicus drives Maledicti up the Clivus Capitolinus to the

waiting

> > Aediles Curules before the Temple of Iuppiter Optimus Maximus

where he

> > is rewarded with Pontic absinthe for his victory.
>
> Congratulations to Vesanicus! A beautiful win for the Albata team.
> Well raced!
>
> -- Marinus
> (Dominus Factionis, Albata)

F. Galerius Aurelianus S.P.D.

As long as Nova Roma remains a primarily on-line organization and fails to
continue to move towards more face-to-face interaction, we will are likely to
lose citizens. There is little to value in just being on the computer
regardless of one's position in our Republic if there is no visible progress and growth
towards being able to enjoy the physical reality of our citizenship. It is
important for the provincial magistrates to encourage more physical events and
interaction to encourage socialization among citizens. Some individuals do
not feel obliged to observe all the normal courtesies on line and feel no need
to really get to know the other citizens. Even going into private IMs with our
magistrates, pontiffs, and other private citizens will strengthen the bonds
that bind us together as Nova Romans. This is especially important if you are
a magistrate, Senator, pontiff, or other official. Valete.


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Salvete,

Can some kind hearted soul let le know the URL's for the above lists?

Thanks a million!

And congratulations to Fabia Vera Faustus on her appointment to the Priesthood!

Valete,
Diana Octavia

There must be something to value. Roman citizenship meant that the people
could count on protection, administration of justice, and public services,
thus it was valued. What does Nova Roma offer of value?

And I'm actually asking that for someone to answer (the fact I have to
qualify my rhetorical question testifies to the problem that apparently is
driving people away...)

Ti. Ambrosius Silvus

-----Original Message-----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus [mailto:drusus@...]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 10:44
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 1187
....

People don't value Nova Roman citizenship like the people of Antiquita
valued Roman Citizenship. As long as that problem remains the
resignations will continue.

L. Sicinius Drusus

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Today is ante diem IV Kalendae Aprilis; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is ante diem III Kalendae Aprilis; the day is comitialis.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex

M IVL PERVSIANVS QVIRITIBVS SPD

avete omnes,

The Naumachiae is intended to be the fight between two sides, playing
each team the part of a famous side in Antiquity, reproducing famous
historical battles, like the Greeks winning at Salamina against the
Persians, or the Corcyreans destroying the Corinthian fleet.

These are the rules for the great battle in the naumachia (see below
and at http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/m_nau_rules.html !

It's going to be held on April 9th. All you have to do is to form
your own fleet and ask to other citizens to take part, or join one
fleet already formed asking to its Supreme Captain.

Then every citizen/Captain have to send his subscritions to
c.curius@... specifing:

- type of equipments bougth with 500 sesterces (see the rules below
and at http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/m_nau_rules.html)

- a choice as SUPREME CAPTAIN (Great Captain of the fleet) once you
have chosen

- his own tactic (among four, see the rules)

Subscriptions are admitted until April 8th.

Valete omnes!


Marcus Iulius Perusianus, Aedilis Curulis
----------------------------------------------------------
ENJOY THE LUDI MEGALESIA 2004 @
http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/ludi.html

PLEASE GIVE TO THE MAGNA MATER PROJECT @
http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/magnamater6.html
----------------------------------------------------------

NAUMACHIAE

INTRODUCTION

The Naumachiae is intended to be the fight between two sides, playing
each team the part of a famous side in Antiquity, reproducing famous
historical battles, like the Greeks winning at Salamina against the
Persians, or the Corcyreans destroying the Corinthian fleet. The
citizens join a team following the next rules as Captains:

EQUIPMENT

Every citizen/Captain involved in the Naumachiae must purchase a ship
and
the equipment before join a team. Each Captain have got 500
sextercios to
spend Those are the items to purchase with this money:

Bireme (Includes 160 warriors and corvus): 200
Trirreme (Includes 200 warriors and corvus): 300
Catapult: 200
Steersman:
- Inexperienced: 50
- Medium: 100
- Expert: 150


SUPREME CAPTAIN (1)

A citizen must be elected as the Great Captain of the fleet. His ship
will
be under the rules of "Supreme Captains".


TACTICS

There are four different tactics. Each ship has its one, but before
choosing
it the Captain should talk to the other members of his team for a
co-ordinate battle.

I. Frontal assault with the prow. Your ship attacks with the prow.
II. To break the opponent rows. Your ship takes back its own rows and
with
the side breaks the opponent rows.
III. Just boarding. Your ship uses its corvus to pass the warriors.


RESOLUTION OF THE NAVAL COMBAT

Each captain have the same tactic for the whole combat.

First a 10 side dice must be rolled in order to determine the
Initiative and
who starts fighting. The kind of steersman and tactic increase or
decrease
it. Highest number is the first fighting.


Steersman inexperienced: -3
Steersman medium: 0
Steersman expert: +3
Tactic I: +3
Tactic II: 0
Tactic III: -3

The equipment and tactic gives a punctuation that increase or
decrease the
Offensive Bonus for the winning. A 100 side dice must be rolled in
order to
determine the OB. The highest OB wins the combat.


Birreme (160 warriors): +25
Trirreme (200 warriors): +75
Catapult: +50

Tactic:
I: +25
II: 0
III: +50


SUPREME CAPTAINS (2):

If the ship of the S.C. is destroyed, the remaining ships will have a
malus
of -6 to Initiative and -50 to the OB.


WINNERS:

The side whose ships are still floating and prevails will win.

Salvete Omnes,
I subscribed my new fast and strong trireme called ITALICA within
150 expert steerman.
Italica want you, board the Italica winning the games in honour of
Magna MAter!!!

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar




--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Iulius Perusianus"
<m_iulius@v...> wrote:

> M IVL PERVSIANVS QVIRITIBVS SPD
>
> avete omnes,
>
> The Naumachiae is intended to be the fight between two sides,

playing

> each team the part of a famous side in Antiquity, reproducing

famous

> historical battles, like the Greeks winning at Salamina against

the

> Persians, or the Corcyreans destroying the Corinthian fleet.
>
> These are the rules for the great battle in the naumachia (see

below

> and at

http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/m_nau_rules.html !

>
> It's going to be held on April 9th. All you have to do is to form
> your own fleet and ask to other citizens to take part, or join one
> fleet already formed asking to its Supreme Captain.
>
> Then every citizen/Captain have to send his subscritions to
> c.curius@w... specifing:
>
> - type of equipments bougth with 500 sesterces (see the rules

below

> and at

http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/m_nau_rules.html)

>
> - a choice as SUPREME CAPTAIN (Great Captain of the fleet) once

you

> have chosen
>
> - his own tactic (among four, see the rules)
>
> Subscriptions are admitted until April 8th.
>
> Valete omnes!
>
>
> Marcus Iulius Perusianus, Aedilis Curulis
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> ENJOY THE LUDI MEGALESIA 2004 @
> http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/ludi.html
>
> PLEASE GIVE TO THE MAGNA MATER PROJECT @
> http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/magnamater6.html
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> NAUMACHIAE
>
> INTRODUCTION
>
> The Naumachiae is intended to be the fight between two sides,

playing

> each team the part of a famous side in Antiquity, reproducing

famous

> historical battles, like the Greeks winning at Salamina against

the

> Persians, or the Corcyreans destroying the Corinthian fleet. The
> citizens join a team following the next rules as Captains:
>
> EQUIPMENT
>
> Every citizen/Captain involved in the Naumachiae must purchase a

ship

> and
> the equipment before join a team. Each Captain have got 500
> sextercios to
> spend Those are the items to purchase with this money:
>
> Bireme (Includes 160 warriors and corvus): 200
> Trirreme (Includes 200 warriors and corvus): 300
> Catapult: 200
> Steersman:
> - Inexperienced: 50
> - Medium: 100
> - Expert: 150
>
>
> SUPREME CAPTAIN (1)
>
> A citizen must be elected as the Great Captain of the fleet. His

ship

> will
> be under the rules of "Supreme Captains".
>
>
> TACTICS
>
> There are four different tactics. Each ship has its one, but

before

> choosing
> it the Captain should talk to the other members of his team for a
> co-ordinate battle.
>
> I. Frontal assault with the prow. Your ship attacks with the prow.
> II. To break the opponent rows. Your ship takes back its own rows

and

> with
> the side breaks the opponent rows.
> III. Just boarding. Your ship uses its corvus to pass the warriors.
>
>
> RESOLUTION OF THE NAVAL COMBAT
>
> Each captain have the same tactic for the whole combat.
>
> First a 10 side dice must be rolled in order to determine the
> Initiative and
> who starts fighting. The kind of steersman and tactic increase or
> decrease
> it. Highest number is the first fighting.
>
>
> Steersman inexperienced: -3
> Steersman medium: 0
> Steersman expert: +3
> Tactic I: +3
> Tactic II: 0
> Tactic III: -3
>
> The equipment and tactic gives a punctuation that increase or
> decrease the
> Offensive Bonus for the winning. A 100 side dice must be rolled in
> order to
> determine the OB. The highest OB wins the combat.
>
>
> Birreme (160 warriors): +25
> Trirreme (200 warriors): +75
> Catapult: +50
>
> Tactic:
> I: +25
> II: 0
> III: +50
>
>
> SUPREME CAPTAINS (2):
>
> If the ship of the S.C. is destroyed, the remaining ships will

have a

> malus
> of -6 to Initiative and -50 to the OB.
>
>
> WINNERS:
>
> The side whose ships are still floating and prevails will win.

Salvete Omnes,
ok, the first two Ludi Circenses were not lucky for us, proud
players of the Factio Russata. And honestly I'm not noting a strong
partecipation by my fast friends ... Russata must to win!!! Russata
need you all, old aurigae and new players! Take the red flag and
claim our glory!

I repeat, I'll send a prize to the first red winner of the next
Ludi.

For everybody would likt to enter in the best and flamed Factio of
Nova Roma, please contact me at fraelov @ yahoo.it or visit
http://aediles.novaroma.org/russata

RUSSATA RA RA RA
RUSSATA RA RA RA
RUSSATA RA RA RA

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
a flamed Dominus

Salve, cidadãos,

Na Roma Antiga, era costume em épocas de calamidade pública os magistrados decretarem ´suplicações´ ou ´preces públicas´, onde o povo tentava aplacar a ira dos deuses com suas orações.

Como vocês sabem, um Ciclone, Catarina, atingiu os estados do sul de nosso país. Isto é inédito em nossa História, NUNCA ANTES se deu. Temos muitos cidadãos nesta região e estamos ansiosos por ouvir notícias.

Portanto, como propraetor, está decretada uma semana de preces públicas em honra de Tempestas (a Tempestade), Iove Elicius (Jupiter do Raio), Iuno Regina (Juno Rainha) e Salus Publica (Salvação Pública). Façam orações especialmente a estas divindades em vossos larários.

___________________________________________________________

On Anciente Rome, on time of public calamities, the magistrates used to decree ´suplication times´, where the people tried to calm the wraith of the gods with their prayers.

As you know, a Hurricane, Hurricane Catarina, has crashed the south states of our country. THIS NEVER HAPPENED ON OUR HISTORY. We have lots of citizens on this region and we are anxious to hear the news.

So, as propraetor, I decree a week of public suplications on honour of Tempestas, Iove Elicius, Iuno Regina and Salus Publica. Make specially prayers to these deities on thy lararium.

Vale bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus - Propraetor.



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Salve Diana Octavia,

Diana Octavia Aventina wrote:

> Can some kind hearted soul let le know the URL's for the above lists?

NovaRomaProvinciae@yahoogroups.com

factio_albata@yahoogroups.com

Vale,

-- Marinus

Diana Octavia Aventina <sacerdosveneris@...> wrote:


We even have a Quaestor for a Plebian Aedile who has not been heard from
since the elections. His Quaestor certainly could not have had anything at all to do this year in
his position as Quaestor.



MBA: I would be that Quaestor. I would be more than willing to do anything required of me. I figured quaestering was just trying to get ahold of the guy you are supposed to be helping, but after many e-mails that did not work. I would love to be more active as a Quaestor.



Vale,





Marcus Bianchius Antonius
Propraetor, The Great Provincia Lacus Magni
Paterfamilias, gens Bianchia
Quaestor, Nova Roma

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<MBA: I would be that Quaestor. I would be more than willing to do anything required of me. I
<figured quaestering was just trying to get ahold of the guy you are supposed to be helping, but
<after many e-mails that did not work.

LOL! We'll have to amend that bit to the Quaestores job description in the Constitution :-)

Vale,
Diana

Salvete Quirites, et salve Marce Bianchi,

Marcus Bianchius Antonius wrote:
[about the quaestor assigned to the missing Plebian Aedile]

> MBA: I would be that Quaestor. I would be more than willing
> to do anything required of me.

Please drop me a note off-list. Right now I'm fortunate to have an
accensa who is also a Quaestor, and who is helping out. But I can't
keep her occupied with my stuff for the rest of the year *and* expect
Praetor Noricus to stand by silently as I do so.

Vale,

-- Marinus

Salvete Quirites,

Ti. Ambrosius Silvus writes (about holding the Roman citizenship):

> There must be something to value. Roman citizenship meant that the people
> could count on protection, administration of justice, and public services,
> thus it was valued. What does Nova Roma offer of value?

First and foremost, it offers hope. It also offers, to quote Winston
Churchill "toil, tears, and sweat." Nova Roma asks a lot of her
magistrates, and some find the load too much to bear. But there is
still hope for a new Roman republic, and that's what keeps me throwing
myself into the tasks of governance.

Nova Roma also offers opportunity to those who would seek it. Every
elected magistrate, and every provincial governor needs a cadre of
active and enthusiastic assistants in order to carry out their duties
well.

> And I'm actually asking that for someone to answer (the fact I have to
> qualify my rhetorical question testifies to the problem that apparently is
> driving people away...)

In many of the cases where people go away, I think it's simply a matter
of them trying Nova Roma and finding it not to their liking. That's a
problem that any organization faces. But it's more complicated in a
case like that of our recently departed Quaestor. She was a very
dedicated, energetic person. While she didn't share her full reasons
for leaving with me, she did mention that she had become extremely
disillusioned and disappointed. Some of this was due to the low number
of people who've paid their annual tax thus far. Some due to other
things she didn't go into detail about.

In closing, I'll remind you that our traditional sign-off, "Valete"
means "be strong." We all, every one of us, must be strong for Nova
Roma if Nova Roma is to grow and flourish. We can't wait for others to
do it for us, and we can't let the understandable disagreements which
arise among people to stifle our enthusiasm for our vision.

Valete,

-- Marinus

Citizens of Nova Roma;

For those of you who have not seen it yet, the March Issue of "Eagle" is
out and waiting for your viewing:

http://livinghistoryengineer.com/roman/eagle/index.htm

The escaping slave is back and just as he thinks he is free he finds
himself at the knife -point of his searcher. You won't want to miss the
remainder of this story!!!

For those of you who are interested in archeology Master Serapio brings
us his story of the ancient city of Petra.

There are some other stories and items of interest, a philisophical set
of comments to read and ponder and a place to set down your thoughts for
the benefit of others.

Remember the "Eagle" is your on-line newsletter and your comments about
both it and the articles therein are valuable to us.

At the above URL you will also find the January and February issues of
"Eagle", if you have not read them yet, or if you wish to review them
again.

We welcome any articles that you may desire to send to "Eagle" that
relate to Rome or to Nova Roma.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius-Tiberius Audens


Wishing you all the best, with Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

In a message dated 3/29/04 2:35:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
sacro_barese_impero@... writes:

> Subscribed my new fast and strong trireme called ITALICA within
> 150 expert steerman.
> Italica want you, board the Italica winning the games in honour of
> Magna Mater!
>

<Sigh>
Steersmen (Governor) STEER the craft. Oarsmen (Rowers) propel it. Please
make a note of this. And its 170 oarsmen for a Trieres not 150.

Q. Fabius Maximus



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

just a try, sorry!

vale
PS. niente da fare...è piu' forte di lui!

M IVL PERVSIANVS
--------------------------------
OLIM HORTA CIDESTI FIDEM IGNOTAM

> > Subscribed my new fast and strong trireme called ITALICA within
> > 150 expert steerman.
> > Italica want you, board the Italica winning the games in honour

of

> > Magna Mater!
> >
> <Sigh>
> Steersmen (Governor) STEER the craft. Oarsmen (Rowers) propel it.

Please

> make a note of this. And its 170 oarsmen for a Trieres not 150.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete, People of Medatlantica! Merlinia Ambrosia Artori, Legata of
Nova Caesaria, Med., sends Tidings of Consul Gn.Equitius Marinus'
Visit to our area!

I have been looking for some interesting places here in NC(N.J.) and
this is what I've come up with.

As we want to go to a really interesting Italian restaurant, the
Bella Notte's Alta Cucina would be memorable. It's in Little Falls,
about 15 mi. north of me here in Maplewood. I was there A few weeks
ago with a group of my husband's co-workers, and it is truly
astounding.
website is going to be
www.bellanottesaltacucina.com

Up side- it is a tiny Italian piazza, complete with colonnades,
fountain, and beautifully painted night sky. The food is phenomenal.

Down side- priced a la carte, items run $10-$25; expect to drop $50
without drinks. As we are doing this on Saturday, April 24th, it will
be in 21st c. clothing.

As for something to see, we can go to our own Newark Museum, which has a
very nice collection of Roman glass, and from now till May 9 an exhibit
of jewelry from all over the world, from all time periods, called
"Baubles, Bangles, and Bling Bling"
The website is
www.newarkmuseum.org

Itinerary for Saturday is- All Meet here* by 11am, Museum 12-2:30,
restaurant 6pm, then back here*.
Hanging out here* before & after is expected!- I. Claudius,
Rise & fall, Julius Caesar, Druids, even Asterex et
Obelix take on Caesar., with Christian Clavier &Gerard
Depardieu...
* Here is my house, in Maplewood, N.J. I will send Directions, etc, to
those coming, via private email. Just email me.

Vale for now!
-M.





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Salve!

It is with great pleasure that I announce the newest courses available at
the Academia Thules:

The Basic Course about Religio Romana I
The Basic Course about Roman Philosophy I
The Basic Course about Nova Roma I
The Basic Course about Greek History
The Basic Course about Literarure History

These courses are open to all citizens of Nova Roma, and best of all, they
are FREE!

For more information, or to register for a course, please visit.
http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/courses.shtml

Thank you all for your time.

Valete-

Gaius Sempronius Octavianus
GaiusSemproniusOctavianus@...

Vicarius Officina Media Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

sounds exciting! I wish I could attend, but my work schedule forbids it. Good Luck with it though

With Respect,

Lucius Cassius Pontonius (Michael Ponte)

----- Original Message -----
From: Joanne Shaver
To: NovaRomaProvinciae@yahoogroups.com ; Bill Gawne ; Legion XXIV ; mediatlanticaprovincia@yahoogroups.com ; Scriboni89@... ; Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com ; Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq@yahoogroups.com ; ssunger
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latest Consular Visit News!!! Sat. 4/24




Salvete, People of Medatlantica! Merlinia Ambrosia Artori, Legata of
Nova Caesaria, Med., sends Tidings of Consul Gn.Equitius Marinus'
Visit to our area!

I have been looking for some interesting places here in NC(N.J.) and
this is what I've come up with.

As we want to go to a really interesting Italian restaurant, the
Bella Notte's Alta Cucina would be memorable. It's in Little Falls,
about 15 mi. north of me here in Maplewood. I was there A few weeks
ago with a group of my husband's co-workers, and it is truly
astounding.
website is going to be
www.bellanottesaltacucina.com

Up side- it is a tiny Italian piazza, complete with colonnades,
fountain, and beautifully painted night sky. The food is phenomenal.

Down side- priced a la carte, items run $10-$25; expect to drop $50
without drinks. As we are doing this on Saturday, April 24th, it will
be in 21st c. clothing.

As for something to see, we can go to our own Newark Museum, which has a
very nice collection of Roman glass, and from now till May 9 an exhibit
of jewelry from all over the world, from all time periods, called
"Baubles, Bangles, and Bling Bling"
The website is
www.newarkmuseum.org

Itinerary for Saturday is- All Meet here* by 11am, Museum 12-2:30,
restaurant 6pm, then back here*.
Hanging out here* before & after is expected!- I. Claudius,
Rise & fall, Julius Caesar, Druids, even Asterex et
Obelix take on Caesar., with Christian Clavier &Gerard
Depardieu...
* Here is my house, in Maplewood, N.J. I will send Directions, etc, to
those coming, via private email. Just email me.

Vale for now!
-M.





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Salve,

I'm just wondering, I've applied for the Religio I course several times but never recieved any sort of confirmation as to when the course is suppose to begin etc.

When do these courses actually start?

Vale.

O. Flavius Pompeius




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G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Today is ante diem III Kalendae Aprilis; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is pridie Kalendae Aprilis; the day is comitialis.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

As I promised, here is a set of links for the week.

Here's a site dedicated to study of Papyrus Egerton 2, a fragment of a
non-Gnostic, otherwise unknown gospel, dated ca. 150-200 CE:

http://alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de/%7Ewie/Egerton/Egerton_home.html

Above and beyond its relevance to early church history, this site has
a detailed discussion of paleographic and textual critical aspects of
the scholarship which makes it an interesting introduction to such issues.

Here's a link to "Viteliu: the Languages of Ancient Italy":

http://www.netaxs.com/%7Esalvucci/VTLhome.html

This site provides an excellent introduction to the linguistic
competitors to Latin.

Here's a link to "Monosticha Catonis (Cato's Monostichs)";

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/texts/monostich.html

The monostichs are short precepts written by Cato Maior for his son.

Here's a link to "The Tom and Nan Riley Collection of Roman Portrait
Sculptures":

http://vroma.org/~riley/

Here's a link to "Coins of Roman Egypt":

http://www.coinsofromanegypt.org/

Here's a link to the "Museum of Countermarks on Roman Coins":

http://www.romancoins.info/Countermarks.html

Here's a link to a "Roman Military Diploma from Slavonski Brod":

http://www.sbonline.net/diploma/diplomae.htm

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Salve Romans


I would like to put together a list of upcoming events for the Eagle

If you know of any please sent it to me ASAP.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

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A. Apollonius Cordus to L. Cornelius Sardonicus, and
to all his fellow-citizens and all peregrines,
greetings.

> >But if a single magistrate does such a thing in the
> >future, that is a citizen who ought to have been
> >taught a lesson in responsibility.
>
> Since this it not even close to the first time
> someone has quit and
> rejoined, we've quite a lengthy set of precedents in
> these cases. I will
> agree to such a "lesson" only if it is retroactive
> and includes everyone who
> has ever resigned a magistracy or citizenship.

I'm not quite sure what you want me to do about past
cases. Condemn them? Certainly I condemn any past or
future instance of a magistrate resigning his or her
office without good reason, without trying less
radical solutions to his or her problems first, and
without taking adequate steps to ensure a smooth
handover of duties. There have been, as far as I can
remember, two magisterial resignations since I joined
this community: on the one occasion I made public
comments in much the same vein as my present ones,
though I'm glad to say the person concerned did take
care for the handing over of duties; on the other I
joined many other citizens in trying to persuade the
person concerned to reconsider, and since our attempts
were successful there was no need for criticism.

As for resignation of citizenship, that is not a
matter for public judgment and is between the person
concerned and any of his or her friends and relatives
who are affected by it. I do not condemn such actions
because they are no business of mine.





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A. Apollonius Cordus to Ti. Ambrosius Silvus, and to
all his fellow-citizens and all peregrines, rgeetings.

> There must be something to value. Roman citizenship
> meant that the people
> could count on protection, administration of
> justice, and public services,
> thus it was valued. What does Nova Roma offer of
> value?

That's an interesting question. Off the top of my
head, here are some ideas:

It offers membership of a community. Of course whether
you feel that to be valuable or not depends on whether
it's a community you like, but it remains one of the
relatively few networks of mutual support and
understanding available to people who pratice Roman
religion and values, as well as a social arena in
which to meet like-minded people.

It offers a fund of expertise on Roman religion,
history, and culture, which can be called on at will
and free of cost, both informally and within the
academy, which we've just seen announce a handful of
new courses.

It offers opportunities to observe and participate in
a reconstruction of the Roman political system, which
ought to be of interest to historians and students of
politics.

It offers entertainments in the form of the games and
other sporting and cultural competitions.

It offers a judicial system which, for those who find
Roman law appealing, may be preferable to
macronational legal systems or other non-legal
dispute-resolution procedures.

It offers a chance to participate in a project whose
goal is the promotion of Roman religion, values, and
cultural achievements, and a means by which those who
find these things personally rewarding can seek to
share them with others and make them available to the
world at large.

Those are some things that spring to mind, and I'd
hope there would be something there for a wide range
of people. But equally there is almost certainly more
we can do, and another good thing about Nova Roma is
that frequently people ask the same question you've
asked, beginning a new round of self-examination and
resulting, hopefully, in some new benefit for the citizenry.





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M IVL PERVSIANVS QVIRITIBVS SPD

avete omnes,

during these next Ludi you can test how much you know about
historical, religiuos, social events connected to the Magna Mater
cult and the Punic wars period.

These are the rules for the contest (see below
and at:
http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/m_quiz_rules.html !)

Beginning on April 4th, every day a question to answer within next 24
hours. It's easy to partecipate: when you know the answer just write
to mm_quiz@... (mm_quiz AT yahoo DOT com). Seven questions: the
more you answer correctly the better!

Valete omnes!

Marcus Iulius Perusianus, Aedilis Curulis
----------------------------------------------------------
ENJOY THE LUDI MEGALESIA 2004 @
http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/ludi/ludi.html

PLEASE GIVE TO THE MAGNA MATER PROJECT @
http://aediles.novaroma.org/perusianus/magnamater6.html
----------------------------------------------------------

P.S. Ludi Megalesia Historical Contest Rules

During Megalensia Ludi there will be a cultural contest with one
question each day (quiz 1 to 7).

All the questions, and the answers, will be published on the web site
of Aedilis M Iul Perusianus and on NR mailing list.

Main themes of this contest will be the history of these Ludi, the
Cult of Magna Mater and the Punic Wars.

Every Nova Roma Citizen is welcome in this cultural contest.

Between 19.00 and 22.00 (Roman hour) of each day of Ludi the question
will be published; you have 24 hrs to answer; the correct answer will
be published the following day, from the 5th of April to the 11th;
the final results with the classification and the winner will be
published the 11th of April.

All your answer have to be posted only to this email address:
mm_quiz@....

If you'll answer correctly you'll receive 2 points for each question.
1 point for the answers not complete. 0 for the wrong answers.

C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete omnes.

The Online Temple of Minerva has been updated to include the hymns
composed in Minerva's honor for the Feria Quinquatriae by L. Arminius
Faustus and Sep. Fabia Vera Fausta. The Online Temple can be visited at:
www.novabritannia.org/temple.htm

I have also updated the Nova Britannia Provincial Website which can be
viewed at www.novabritannia.org

Valete,

C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minerva Templi Sacerdotes




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Salve, Sacerdos,

This is an honour imense for me. Today is the feast of Concordia, it
is another cause of joy for me.

Vale bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus TRP

PS.(However, there is two hymns missing!)

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gaius Minucius Hadrianus
<c.minucius.hadrianus@n...> wrote:

> C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete omnes.
>
> The Online Temple of Minerva has been updated to include the hymns
> composed in Minerva's honor for the Feria Quinquatriae by L.

Arminius

> Faustus and Sep. Fabia Vera Fausta. The Online Temple can be

visited at:

> www.novabritannia.org/temple.htm
>
> I have also updated the Nova Britannia Provincial Website which can

be

> viewed at www.novabritannia.org
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix
> Pontifex et Minerva Templi Sacerdotes
>
>
>
>
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EMILIA CURIA FINNICA QUIRITIBUS SPD

EDICTUM AEDILICIUM IV - CERIALIA CULTURAL CHALLENGE 2757

1. The quiz, "Cerialia Cultural Challenge" is open to all the
citizens of Nova Roma. The task of the contest is to answer to three
multiple choice questions and one essay type question in each five
cultural themes of the quiz:
1) Agricultura
2) Militia Romana
3) Religio Romana
4) Oratores et Philosophi
5) Historia Romana

2. The Award is open to single participants or to groups composed of
a maximum of 5 citizens. Each participant or group of participants
can participate with just _one_ subscription and _one_ complete set
of answers. It isn't allowed to be a member of a group and
participate as a individual at the same time. The answers must be in
English, answers to multiple choice questions given with the correct
alphabeth, essay type answers as a written text.

3. Each subscription must have the following facts about the
participant(s): Nova Roman name, real name, Nova Roman Province, age
and e-mail address.

4. The participants subscribing to the "Cerialia Cultural Challenge"
are able to challenge other Nova Roman Citizens to subscribe to the
"Cerialia Cultural Challenge" by entering the text "challenge" and
the Nova Roman name of the challenged person and attaching this
information to their subscriptions. Uncomposed groups cannot be
challenged. Subscriptions and challenges attached to them will be
published on Emilia Curia Finnica's Officina Aedilis Website's Ludi
Section.

5. Once the subscription time is over, questions shall be published
on the Main Mailing List of Nova Roma and on the Emilia Curia
Finnica's Officina Aedilis Website's Ludi Section. Answers, too, must
be sent via email. Each email with a set of answers must contain the
same information about the participant(s) as the subscription, see
phase 3. All answers of the participants sent before the deadline of
the answers will be rated. Only one answer for each question is
allowed, later arrived answers to the same questions will be ignored.
Answers can be sent in 1 to 5 emails, with no less than one complete
theme of four questions in one email.

6. The deadline of sending is for subscriptions April 12th and for
answers April 18th 2004 (2757 a.u.c.), both at 24.00 time of Roma,
sent by e-mail to c.curius@... [c_curius AT welho DOT com -
Caius Curius Saturninus] with the subject "Cerialia Cultural
Challenge". Entries posted to any Nova Roma mailing list will be
disqualified.

7. The questions will be written and the answers will be judged
anonymously by a Jury. The jury members will be announced later.

8. The multiple choice questions will be judged by giving 0-1 points
each, 1 point for a correct answer. Each judge in the jury shall
value the essay type answers of his/her field by giving 0-3 points
for each and by choosing a single best answer among those answers
that have been given full three points. The judgements of the jury
are un-impugnable.

9. The three best accumulated ratings and the best single essay type
answers of each theme will be awarded and published. The results will
be published during Ludi Cerialia, April 19th - 26th 2004, on the
Emilia Curia Finnica's Officina Aedilis Website's Ludi Section and on
the Main Mailing List of Nova Roma.

10. The texts will be archived by the Ludi organization. The
participants give the right to use their answers to Nova Roma
accepting this regulation. This Regulation is accepted by taking part
of the "Cerialia Cultural Challenge".

Given on March 30 2757, in the year of Consulship of Cn. Salix Astur
and Cn. Equitus Marinus
--


Emilia Curia Finnica
Scriba Araniae Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Aedilis Plebis

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SALVETE QUIRITES

Finally, I received from Prof. Poliseno the answers to your
questions about Stoicism in Rome.
I'm translating them to English (they are pretty longer than
expected!!!), so as soon as possible I'll publish them in their own
homepage (I'll let you know).

As I said previously, in a few days I'll flight to US for work, so
next month we will not have an Expert.

I'll stop collecting questions for Prof. Cristofory tomorrow, so
hurry up!

For any question or doubt about "Interview the Expert", just ask.

Our site is the following:
http://www.novaroma.org/expert/index.htm

BENE VALETE!
L IUL SULLA

Salve!

It is official - I am moving to Austin, Texas for graduate school.
Since I will be in Texas, I want to get involved in whatever way I
can with the land project. What is needed and who should I contact?

valete,
A. Moravia Aurelia

Salve Arnamentia Moravia,

Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia wrote:

> Salve!
>
> It is official - I am moving to Austin, Texas for graduate school.
> Since I will be in Texas, I want to get involved in whatever way I
> can with the land project. What is needed and who should I contact?

I'm cc-ing our Pater Patria, Marcus Cassius Julianus, who procured the
land. He can best acquaint you with the particulars of what you'll need
to know.

I will mention that Austin is not especially close to the part of far
west Texas where our land is located, not even by Texas units of
measure. But if you'd be willing to drive out there once or twice a
year to look after the land I'm sure your efforts would be appreciated.

Other than that, congratulations on getting accepted for graduate
school. Will you be going to the University of Texas?

Vale,

-- Marinus

Salve,


Lucius Arminius Faustus wrote:

>PS.(However, there is two hymns missing)
>
>

Thanks for pointing that out! Can you e-mail me the missing hymns so I
can post them? Yahoo hates me so I don't always get all of the e-mail
sent through Yahoo Groups.

Vale,

C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix

Sure!

Go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/messages after
login on YahooGroups

On Religio Romana List there is Hymns on the following messages:

6800;6801;6803;6804;6806 (one of my favourite);
6809;6810;6811,6812,6825

The 6796,6797 were the first from Homer.

Vale bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus TRP



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gaius Minucius Hadrianus
<c.minucius.hadrianus@n...> wrote:

> Salve,
>
>
> Lucius Arminius Faustus wrote:
>
> >PS.(However, there is two hymns missing)
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for pointing that out! Can you e-mail me the missing hymns

so I

> can post them? Yahoo hates me so I don't always get all of the e-

mail

> sent through Yahoo Groups.
>
> Vale,
>
> C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix

You're right, Austin isn't too near, but it is closer than Portland,
OR.

I'll be studying Counseling and Art Therapy at UT.

thank again,
Arnamentia



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia"
<arnamentia_aurelia@y...> wrote:

> Salve!
>
> It is official - I am moving to Austin, Texas for graduate school.
> Since I will be in Texas, I want to get involved in whatever way I
> can with the land project. What is needed and who should I contact?
>
> valete,
> A. Moravia Aurelia

Avete Quirites;
before you fling me over the Tarpeian rock, I confess that all
these name changes were due to my ignorance (less now;-) of naming
conventions in Roma Antiqua.
A numeric name like Septima is incorrect if you are not a 7th child,
so I have with the Censor's permission chosen the feminine form of
the historical praenomen Spurius.
If you have questions about your praenomen & would like help in
changing it you can go bother that dratted scriba...who?;-)
optime valete
Sp.Fabia Vera Fausta
scriba Censoris CFQ

Salve Ti Ambrosis,

For the time being Nova Roma offers many of its citizens a good
education, exposure to many others both more knowledgeable or less
knowledgeable than one's self, various resources as well as
comradeship. I feel that you get out of NR what you put into it.
Everything is covered from how to make Roman food and drink to
learning the language of the Ancient Romans as well as its military
structure and history. The list goes on and on. Even at my work in
the petroleum industry, we often take time off the technicalities
and talk about world politics, each other's shennanigans or sport
events just like we do in NR. Discussions and arguments, agreements
and disagreements are part of our nature here and in the
marcroworld.

Why not take advantage of what is offered here and or help out? I
notice for example that G. Iuli Scaurus has offered a 3 year course
in Latin. I don't wish to annoy him with talk of money or monetary
value with respect to knowledge and academics but I can tell you
that in Alberta here, such a course offered by a professor in
university would cost about 3000.00 Cdn or 2000.00 + US over that
time period. There are 21 signed up for the course so where are the
other 1040 souls for example. Why turn down a gift like that? Look
at other courses and opportunities coming up! If one sits idley by
and wishes not to participate then that is his business but don't
blame NR.

As Consul Marinus said previously, we all must have hopes in life
which is the reason for setting goals like building a small nation
someday. The more everyone learns, contributes, the merrier don't
you think?

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher L. Wood" <xwood@u...>
wrote:

> There must be something to value. Roman citizenship meant that the

people

> could count on protection, administration of justice, and public

services,

> thus it was valued. What does Nova Roma offer of value?
>
> And I'm actually asking that for someone to answer (the fact I

have to

> qualify my rhetorical question testifies to the problem that

apparently is

> driving people away...)
>
> Ti. Ambrosius Silvus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Sicinius Drusus [mailto:drusus@b...]
> Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 10:44
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 1187
> ....
>
> People don't value Nova Roman citizenship like the people of

Antiquita

> valued Roman Citizenship. As long as that problem remains the
> resignations will continue.
>
> L. Sicinius Drusus

G. Iulius Scaurus S. P. D.

Salvete, Quirites.

Today is pridie Kalendae Aprilis; the day is comitialis.

Tomorrow is Kalendae Aprilis and the Feria Veneraliae; the day is
fastus. During the Feria Veneralia Venus Verticordia, Venus "the
changer-of-hearts" and patroness of love, is particularly venerated.
Women, wearing myrtle garlands, bathed in the men's baths (men were
excluded from their baths for the day). Fortuna Virilis was also
venerated in connection with Venus, her statue ritually bathed, and
offerings of incense and flowers made. A sacrifice to Iuno was made
by a Pontifex and the Rex Sacrorum in the Comitia Calabra after which
a Pontifex Minor would announce the date of the Nonae Aprilis. Shortly
thereafter the Regina Sacrorum made sacrifice to Iuno in the Regia.

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus
Aedilis Curulis, Flamen Quirinalis et Pontifex

EMILIA CURIA FINNICA QUIRITIBUS SPD

EDICTUM AEDILICIUM V - LUDI CERIALIA 2757

1. According to the Official Calendar of the Nova Roman festivals (at
http://www.novaroma.org/calendar/aprilis.html), from April 19th to
April 26th, Ludi Cerialia will be celebrated.

2. The Calendar of the Ludi Cerialia is the following:

a. 19th April :
1. Opening of the Ludi
2. Religious Celebrations

b. 20th April :
1. History of Ludi Cerialia and Ceres
2. Ludi Scaenici

c. 21st April :
1. Ludi Circenses Quarter Races
2. Cerialia Cultural Challenge 1, Agricultura

d. 22nd April :
1. Ludi Circenses Semifinal Races
2. Cerialia Cultural Challenge 2, Militia Romana

e. 23rd April :
1. Ludi Circenses Final Races
2. Cerialia Cultural Challenge 3, Oratores et Philosophi

f. 24th April :
1. Venationes
2. Cerialia Cultural Challenge 4, Religio Romana

g. 25th April :
1. Venationes
2. Cerialia Cultural Challenge 5, Historia Romana

h. 26th April :
1. Ludi Circenses Hymn Contest Results
2. Closing Ceremony

3. This general plan and rules, time schedules and more details of
each game at:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cerialia.html. A
detailed program, rules and modalities of each of these events will
be published on the NR main list before the beginning of Ludi
Cerialia.

4. Ludi Cerialia are organized by the Officina Aedilis Emiliae Curiae Finnicae.

5. This edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given on March 31 2757, in the year of Consulship of Cn. Salix Astur
and Cn. Equitus Marinus
--


Emilia Curia Finnica
Scriba Araniae Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Aedilis Plebis

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EMILIA CURIA FINNICA QUIRITIBUS SPD

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I'm pleased to announce that as Ludi Cerialia, April 19th - 26th, is
drawing closer, many of the contests are already available for
subscription. Ludi Cerialia is available for both plebeians and
patricians!
---------------
* Have a look at the program of Ludi Cerialia NOW:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cerialia.html



* Striving for the championship of the year or just want to have fun?
Don't miss out the Ludi Circenses!
---------------
SUBSCRIBE NOW:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cer_circenses.html



* Amazing show with wild furious beasts and brave gladiators, Venationes!
---------------
SUBSCRIBE NOW:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cer_venationes.html



* Challenge yourself and your friend or enemy to the Cerialia
Cultural Challenge!
---------------
SUBSCRIBE NOW:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cer_ccc.html

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Valete,
--


Emilia Curia Finnica
Scriba Araniae Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Aedilis Plebis

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Salvete Omnes,
I have updated the Tabularium of Nova Roman official website with
all the Edicta published in the last month by our higher Magistrates.
Please, Magistrate, check if your documents stay in the website and
if they are correct.

http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/edicts/index.html

Thank you

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar

Salve,


Not necessarily. You can use any ordinal names without worry with
order. DECIMUS Iunius Brutus was not the 10th child of the sister of
Cato. And Pompeius Magnus had only two sons, SEXTUS Pompeius and
Cneus Pompeius.

Vale bene,
L. Arminius Faustus TRP


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Sp. Fabia Vera Fausta"
<rory12001@y...> wrote:

> Avete Quirites;
> before you fling me over the Tarpeian rock, I confess that all
> these name changes were due to my ignorance (less now;-) of naming
> conventions in Roma Antiqua.
> A numeric name like Septima is incorrect if you are not a 7th

child,

> so I have with the Censor's permission chosen the feminine form of
> the historical praenomen Spurius.
> If you have questions about your praenomen & would like help

in

> changing it you can go bother that dratted scriba...who?;-)
> optime valete
> Sp.Fabia Vera Fausta
> scriba Censoris CFQ

Salvete Quirites;
I'm calling all Praesini to enter the races. We were and will be
the winningnest factio again!
Now being a new sacerdos to Magna Mater, I don't want to imply that
the gods are on our side,
but I'm calling on their help...!
valete
Sp. Fabia Vera Fausta
sacerdos Matris magnae

L. Arminius Faustus Tribunus Plebis E. Curiae Finnicae Aedilis Plebis
salutem dicit.

First I want to praise you mostly, god-like Finnica, by the wonderful
Cerealia you have prepared. It is far better than the mine last year,
and I thanks Ceres Mother by having enlighted so much this
magistrature with you holding it.

However, I just warn you that to the greater glory of the Plebeian
Class, by whom the Cerealia is hold, you should also make all these
callings on Comitia Plebis Tributa List as well:

Post message: ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: ComitiaPlebisTributa-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Vale bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus TRP

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Emilia Finnlund <e.curia@w...>
wrote:

> EMILIA CURIA FINNICA QUIRITIBUS SPD
>
> -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
>
> I'm pleased to announce that as Ludi Cerialia, April 19th - 26th,

is

> drawing closer, many of the contests are already available for
> subscription. Ludi Cerialia is available for both plebeians and
> patricians!
> ---------------
> * Have a look at the program of Ludi Cerialia NOW:
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cerialia.html
>
>
>

Salvete Quirites,

Would every citizen who has paid their taxes for the current year please
check their Album Civium page and confirm that it is correctly showing
your status as "Citizen: Assidui (current)." If that status is not
correct, please write directly to me (gawne AT cesmail DOT net) and
we'll work on resolving the problem.

All other citizens who have not yet paid their taxes for the current
year are encouraged to do so.

Valete,

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Consul

Salve,

I wrote that in response to the comment that the next person to resign their
office without passing on their duties should be 'taught a lesson in
responsibility.' What lesson do you propose to teach and how do envision
administering that instruction?

Only an agent-centered morality will ensure an individual will handle their
duties or be quit of them in a responsibile manner. These motivations must
come from within.

If that instruction was somehow effective, why should it apply only to the
next person to leave in a huff? If you're suggesting that we should make an
example of the next person to quit, I question the effectiveness of that
action. I don't think it will make a difference. What is the value of a
punishment to someone who is decided that the duties assigned to them by
aren't worth their time? What is the value to Nova Roma in punishing
someone who has disabused the public trust and thereby diminished themselves
in the eyes of the community?

We should certainly do everything we can to keep talented people, but in
those cases where we can't, I see no need to pander to someone's ego with an
outcry of support, nor do I see the need to flood the main list with a
series of condemnations. There are plenty of other talented individuals
ready to assume the duties of those who leave.

Vale,
LCSardonicus

>From: "A. Apollonius Cordus" <a_apollonius_cordus@...>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Resignation
>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:18:38 +0100 (BST)
>
>A. Apollonius Cordus to L. Cornelius Sardonicus, and
>to all his fellow-citizens and all peregrines,
>greetings.
>
> > >But if a single magistrate does such a thing in the
> > >future, that is a citizen who ought to have been
> > >taught a lesson in responsibility.
> >
> > Since this it not even close to the first time
> > someone has quit and
> > rejoined, we've quite a lengthy set of precedents in
> > these cases. I will
> > agree to such a "lesson" only if it is retroactive
> > and includes everyone who
> > has ever resigned a magistracy or citizenship.
>
>I'm not quite sure what you want me to do about past
>cases. Condemn them? Certainly I condemn any past or
>future instance of a magistrate resigning his or her
>office without good reason, without trying less
>radical solutions to his or her problems first, and
>without taking adequate steps to ensure a smooth
>handover of duties. There have been, as far as I can
>remember, two magisterial resignations since I joined
>this community: on the one occasion I made public
>comments in much the same vein as my present ones,
>though I'm glad to say the person concerned did take
>care for the handing over of duties; on the other I
>joined many other citizens in trying to persuade the
>person concerned to reconsider, and since our attempts
>were successful there was no need for criticism.
>
>As for resignation of citizenship, that is not a
>matter for public judgment and is between the person
>concerned and any of his or her friends and relatives
>who are affected by it. I do not condemn such actions
>because they are no business of mine.
>
>
>
>
>
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II. Pridie Kalendas Maias dies ultima in qua vectigalia sine poena
pendantur constituta est. Licet vectigalia pendere post illam diem,
sed poena dimidia parte (quinquaginta [L] percento) debebitur.
Exempli
gratia, necesse est ut civis qui ante diem ultimam thaleros duodecim
($XII) debeat, postquam thaleros duodeviginti ($XVIII) pendat.

2. The deadline for remittance of taxes is the last day of April.
Taxes may be remitted after that date, with a penalty of an extra
50%.
For example, a citizen who owes $12 would need to pay $18 after the
deadline.






Salvete omnes,

I thought the yearly tax payment is due the end of April with a 50%
charge for overdue taxes. I'll be sending mine this week but I was
wondering why someone or others were discouraged or panicing over
the last few weeks of March about the slow returns? If April 30 is
the deadline what is the issue? One has time to panic get frustrated
or quit after April don't you think?

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Reposted for the benefit of any who missed this the first time.
Please note that the text alternates between Latin and English.

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Consul

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM VECTIGALE -- Tax Edictum for 2757 auc (2004 ce)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:30:54 -0500
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...>

Ex Officio Consulis Gnaei Equiti Marini

EDICTVM CONSVLARE A GNAEO EQVITIO MARINO II: EDICTVM VECTIGALE

Secundum Senatus consultum mense Novembre anno MMDCCLV A.V.C. iussum,
<http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html>,
pretium vectigalium anno MMDCCLVII ex hoc statuo.

Pursuant to the Senatus consultum passed in November of 2755 auc,
<http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html>
I hereby establish the tax rates for 2757.

I. Pretia vectigalium anno MMDCCLVII secundum aestimationes in tabula
comitanti constituta sunt. Patriae in provinciis exstantibus sitae
secundum provinciarum ordinem primo scribuntur; patriae sine provinciis
secundum litterarum nominum ordinem sequuntur.

1. Tax rates for 2757 are set according to the values in the following
table. Countries within existing provinces are listed first in order
of province, followed by countries without provinces in alphabetical
order.


TABVLA PRETIORVM VECTIGALIVM ANNO MMDCCVII A.V.C.
TAX RATE TABLE FOR 2757 ab urbe condita

Tax Amount in Tax Amount
Macronation Provincia Local Currency in USD
==========================================================================
United States America Austroccidentalis 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Austrorientalis 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Boreoccidentalis 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Medioccidentalis Sup. 12.00 USD 12.00
Argentina Argentina 10.00 ARS 3.48
Israel Asia Occidentalis 30.00 ILS 6.83
Turkey Asia Occidentalis 3330000.00 TRL 2.44
Korea, South Asia Orientalis 7700.00 KPW 6.51
Philippines Asia Orientalis 85.00 PHP 1.54
Japan Asia Orientalis 1020.00 JPY 9.62
Singapore Asia Orientalis 14.00 SGD 8.28
Malaysia Asia Orientalis 11.00 MYR 2.89
Australia Australia 12.00 AUD 9.30
Brazil Brasilia 7.00 BRL 2.46
United Kingdom Britannia 5.00 GBP 9.09
United States California 12.00 USD 12.00
Canada Canada Occidentalis 13.00 CAD 10.16
Canada Canada Orientalis 13.00 CAD 10.16
Belgium Gallia 8.00 EUR 10.26
France Gallia 7.00 EUR 8.97
Netherlands Gallia 7.00 EUR 8.97
Switzerland Germania 13.00 CHF 10.57
Austria Germania 7.00 EUR 8.97
Germany Germania 7.00 EUR 8.97
Ireland Hibernia 8.00 EUR 10.26
Portugal Hispania 5.00 EUR 6.41
Spain Hispania 6.00 EUR 7.69
Italy Italia 7.00 EUR 8.97
United States Lacus Magni 12.00 USD 12.00
United States Mediatlantica 12.00 USD 12.00
Mexico Mexico 32.00 MXN 2.95
United States Nova Britannia 12.00 USD 12.00
Czech Republic Pannonia 130.00 CZK 5.13
Hungary Pannonia 930.00 HUF 4.44
Slovakia Pannonia 132.00 SKK 4.13
Ukraine Sarmatia 8.00 UAH 1.50
Russia Sarmatia 94.00 RUR 3.23
Sweden Thule 62.00 SEK 8.68
Denmark Thule 56.00 DKK 9.59
Finland Thule 7.00 EUR 8.97
Iceland Thule 700.00 ISK 10.04
Norway Thule 75.00 NOK 11.06
Poland Venedia 12.00 PLN 3.27

Albania 155.00 ALL 1.47
Andorra 5.00 EUR 6.41
Armenia 645.00 AMD 1.20
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.00 BAM 0.55
Bulgaria 3.00 BGN 1.96
Chile 1900.00 CLP 3.37
China 13.00 CNY 1.57
Colombia 5600.00 COP 2.04
Costa Rica 1160.00 CRC 2.77
Croatia 20.00 HRK 3.32
Greece 5.00 EUR 6.41
Honduras 15.00 HNL 0.84
Macedonia 83.00 MKD 1.70
Morocco 11.00 MAD 1.27
New Zealand 10.00 NZD 6.80
Nicaragua 11.00 NIO 0.71
Nigeria 41.00 NGN 0.30
Romania 82100.00 ROL 2.53
South Africa 22.00 ZAR 3.34
Uruguay 76.00 UYU 2.63
Venezuela 2900.00 VEB 1.82
Vietnam 12000.00 VND 0.77


II. Pridie Kalendas Maias dies ultima in qua vectigalia sine poena
pendantur constituta est. Licet vectigalia pendere post illam diem,
sed poena dimidia parte (quinquaginta [L] percento) debebitur. Exempli
gratia, necesse est ut civis qui ante diem ultimam thaleros duodecim
($XII) debeat, postquam thaleros duodeviginti ($XVIII) pendat.

2. The deadline for remittance of taxes is the last day of April.
Taxes may be remitted after that date, with a penalty of an extra 50%.
For example, a citizen who owes $12 would need to pay $18 after the
deadline.

III. Vnicuique qui/quae provinciae gubernator est exemplar huius
edicti ad provinciae indices (ubi exstant) transmittendum est.
Vnicuique traductori Novae Romae publico hunc edictum in linguam/linguas
quarum rationem reddere debet vertendum. Edicti huius appendix
consilium civibus continet, et cum edicto semetipso transmitti/verti debeat.

3. Each provincial governor is required to copy this edict to their
provincial lists (where applicable). Each of Nova Roma's official
Interpreters is required to translate this edict into the language(s)
for which they are responsible. The appendix to this edictum contains
advice to citizens and should be forwarded/translated with the main
document.

Hoc edictum statim valet.

This edictum is effective immediately.

Datum sub manu mea Kalendis Februariis, MMDCCVII A.V.C.
Gnaeo Salice Asturi et Gnaeo Equitio Marino consulibus

Given under my hand, this First day of February, 2757 ab urbe condita
in the consulship of Gnaeus Salix Astur and Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

APPENDIX - Advice to Citizens

Taxes can be paid in a variety of ways.

Citizens remitting their taxes in US dollars may send a check, money
order, or equivalent form of payment made out to Nova Roma directly to:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Other citizens will need to purchase an international money order in US
dollars for the full amount of their taxes and send it to the address
above. Note that individual checks in local currencies sent directly to
the Nova Roma address will likely cost more to cash than they are worth.

Some provincial governors have chosen to arrange a central point in
their provinciae to which citizens may remit their taxes so that the
province will only need to make a single payment to the central
treasury. Citizens are encouraged to contact their provincial governor,
if any, to find out whether their province will be doing this.

Citizens in Europe whose provincial governor has chosen not to act as a
collection point may contact Quaestor Caius Curius Saturninus
(mikko.sillanpaa@...), in order to arrange payment if they wish.

All citizens capable of doing so may pay their taxes through the PayPal
service. There is a link on the Nova Roma Web site's main page for
this. It is the purple image alternately displaying "DONO DARE" and
"give to Nova Roma via PayPal" located beneath the main menu.

All citizens should be sure to include the full Roman names of all
citizens for whom they are paying with their remittance! PayPal provides
a comments field when you use it, and you can provide the name(s) there.
This will ensure that each civis who pays taxes will be properly
enrolled in the Assidui.

Questions may be addressed to myself (gawne@...) or my
quaestor, Livia Cornelia Hibernia (livia_cornelia_hibernia@...).
If you post your question to the main list, please Cc my address to
ensure that I see the message.

APPENDIX LATINE - CONSILIVM CIVIBVS

Vectigalia modis diversis pendi possunt.

Cives vectigalia sua thaleris Americanis denominata vel perscriptionem,
vel iussum pecuniarium, vel solutionis formam aequalem, scriptam Novae
Romae recta mittant apud:

Nova Roma
P.O. Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Necesse erit ut alii cives iussum omnium gentium pecuniarium denominatum
thaleris Vnitorum Statuum Americae vectigalium tota summa emant et ad
locum supra scriptum mittant. Animadvertatis perscriptiones privatas
denominatas pecuniis regionalibus ad Novae Romae locum recta missas
probabiliter plus quam valeant pecunia numerata solvi constaturas esse.

Aliqui e numero gubernatorum provincialium partem mediam provinciarum
suarum quo cives vectigalia pendant statuere delegerunt ut provinciae
suae solutionem solam aerario centrali pendere debeant. Vt comperiant
si provincia sua hoc modo utatur, cives qui gubernatorem provincialem
habent ei aut epistulas scribere aut apparatu telephonico eum/eam vocare
hortati sunt.

Licet civibus in Europa habitantibus quorum gubernatores nec locum
medium deligere nec vectigalia se exigere volunt epistulas Quaestori
Caio Saturnino scribere (mikko.silanpaa@...) ut volentes
vectigalium solutionem constituant.

Licet civibus omnibus qui ita possint vectigalia sua via officio
"Solutioni Amico" pendere. Est ad hanc finem vinculum in pagina araneae
Novae Romae prima, imago purpurea sita sub indice principali quae
invicem verba "DONO DARE" et "date Novae Romae via 'Solutioni Amico'
(sed posteriora anglice reddita sunt) ostentat.

Omnes cives se certiores faciant ut nomina Romana plena civium omnium
quibus se vectigalia pendant cum solutione ascribantur! "Solutioni
Amicus" locum commentarium utentibus praebet ubi nomina ascribere
poteritis. Hoc facto, certum erit ut civis quisque vectigalia pendens
recte inter assiduos ascribatur.

Licet quaestiones ad me ipsum (gawne@...) vel ad quaestricem
meam, Liviam Corneliam Hiberniam (livia_cornelia_hibernia@...)
mittere. Si quaestiones vestras ad indicem principalem mittatis, vos
rogo ut exemplar ad inscriptionem meam inscribatis ad me certiorem
epistulas vestras a me legendas faciendum.

Salve Emilia Curia;
what an incredible site! The design is wonderful; hmm quirites who
is ready now to praise Mother Ceres?....
vale Sp.Fabia Vera Fausta


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
<lafaustus@y...> wrote:

> L. Arminius Faustus Tribunus Plebis E. Curiae Finnicae Aedilis

Plebis

> salutem dicit.
>
> First I want to praise you mostly, god-like Finnica, by the

wonderful

> Cerealia you have prepared. It is far better than the mine last

year,

> and I thanks Ceres Mother by having enlighted so much this
> magistrature with you holding it.
>
> However, I just warn you that to the greater glory of the Plebeian
> Class, by whom the Cerealia is hold, you should also make all these
> callings on Comitia Plebis Tributa List as well:
>
> Post message: ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com
> Subscribe: ComitiaPlebisTributa-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Vale bene in pacem deorum,
> L. Arminius Faustus TRP
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Emilia Finnlund <e.curia@w...>
> wrote:
> > EMILIA CURIA FINNICA QUIRITIBUS SPD
> >
> > -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce that as Ludi Cerialia, April 19th - 26th,
> is
> > drawing closer, many of the contests are already available for
> > subscription. Ludi Cerialia is available for both plebeians and
> > patricians!
> > ---------------
> > * Have a look at the program of Ludi Cerialia NOW:
> > http://www.insulaumbra.com/aedilisplebis_ecf/index_cerialia.html
> >
> >
> >

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
<lafaustus@y...> wrote:

> Salve,
>
>
> Not necessarily. You can use any ordinal names without worry with
> order. DECIMUS Iunius Brutus was not the 10th child of the sister of
> Cato. And Pompeius Magnus had only two sons, SEXTUS Pompeius and
> Cneus Pompeius.
>
> Vale bene,
> L. Arminius Faustus TRP

Salve,

For women the ordinals were more strictly applied then with the men.
Isn't that always the way ladies?

I actually am a Quintus since I am the fifth child. Coincidently the
last child, so what does that say about me growing up? <Grin>

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

I have never recieved instructions on how to pay taxes. Could you tell me how and where to pay? Thank You

With Respect,

Lucius Cassius Pontonius (Michael Ponte)

----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com ; NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com ; NovaRomaProvinciae@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Assidui Status


Salvete Quirites,

Would every citizen who has paid their taxes for the current year please
check their Album Civium page and confirm that it is correctly showing
your status as "Citizen: Assidui (current)." If that status is not
correct, please write directly to me (gawne AT cesmail DOT net) and
we'll work on resolving the problem.

All other citizens who have not yet paid their taxes for the current
year are encouraged to do so.

Valete,

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Consul


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