On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, at 01:42 PM, Lucius Sicinius Drusus wrote:

> Cato,
>
> I Have a total lack of intrest in the absurdities of English Spelling,
> a lack of time to transcibe everything from Yahoo's web based program
> to a spell checker, and as little desire to please the Anal-retentive
> as intrest in English spelling.
>
> I See nothing in your earlier post other than a desire to discredit
> the message by attempting to discredit the messager which is one of
> those personal attacks that we hear so much about from some people, or
> at least hear about when someone they disagree with makes a post.
>
> Drusus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiusequitiuscato" <mlcinnyc@y...>
> wrote:
>> G. Equitius Cato D. Iunio Silano L. Sicinio Druso S.P.D.
>>
>> salvete.
>>
>> Iunius Silanus, if he is not corrected by anyone, how will he learn?
>> It is more important that we present an educated face to the world
>> than to be afraid of correction. I do not correct non-English
>> speakers because they are struggling under a tongue other than their
>> own. That is courtesy.
>>
>> Sicinius Drusus, I am not *attacking* you, and I have no interest in
>> the little flame thing you've got going on. But if you're going to
>> pontificate, I am suggesting that you do it correctly.
>>
>> valete,
>>
>> Cato
>>
>> P.S. - it's "crocodile" GEC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Sicinius Drusus"
>> <drusus@b...> wrote:
>>> LOL,
>>>
>>> Typical,
>>>
>>> When you are unable to refute the gist of a message lower yourself
>> to
>>> attacking the style of the message.
>>>
>>> So why isn't this one of those personal attacks that so many
>> crocidile
>>> tears have been shed over?
>>>
>>> Is that something that depends on WHO make a post rather than what
>> is
>>> posted?
>>>
>>> L. Sicinius Drusus
>>>
>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiusequitiuscato"
>> <mlcinnyc@y...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> G. Equitius Cato L. Sicinius Drusus S.D.
>>>>
>>>> Salve, Drusus.
>>>>
>>>> I know you believe that this List is just a "virtual" Forum, but
>>>> unfortunately right now it is the only Forum we have. As such,
>> it
>>>> might behoove a pontiff and senator of Nova Roma to try to learn
>> to
>>>> spell a little more accurately. "SPEACH"? Do you
>> mean "speech"? Or
>>>> are you referring to some other, as-yet-unrevealed
>>>> activity? "POLITICALY"? I think you mean "politically".
>>>> And I find it a source of great amusement that you of all people
>>>> cannot spell "tolerance" correctly, as evidenced by earlier
>> posts.
>>>> How are we supposed to gain or keep the respect we desire from
>> those
>>>> outside NR when our "leading" citizens cannot express themselves
>>>> correctly in their native tongue?
>>>>
>>>> If, of course, English is *not* your first language, you can be
>>>> excused, with my apologies. Otherwise, get a dictionary. And a
>>>> thesaurus.
>>>>
>>>> I do, however, enjoy your random capitalization of words; it has
>> a
>>>> certain 18th-century flair to it.
>>>>
>>>> vale,
>>>>
>>>> Cato
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Sicinius Drusus"
>>>> <drusus@b...> wrote:
>>>>> I Thought you favored recreating the Best of Rome. Restricting
>>>>> political speach is recreating the Rome that existed under
>> Sulla's
>>>>> proscriptions, the Rome that existed when Caligula's or
>> Domitian's
>>>>> spies, When Romans feared speaking their minds about their
>> leaders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Attempts to impose Politicaly Correct Speach are tools of
>> repression
>>>>> and political censorship.
>>>>>
>>>>> L. Sicinius Drusus
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
>>>>> <lafaustus@y...> wrote:
>>>>>> Salve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, they are as well intended to harm psicologically, they
>> are a
>>>>>> subtle violence of the worst kind. There is people here in NR
>>>>>> specialist on this, on transforming this list on a partisan
>> hell,
>>>>>> turning everything into polemic, making a countless cause of
>>>>>> abandoning of prospective and peaceful citizens, silent
>>>> resignations,
>>>>>> we will never know until next census.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I warn: It was not the case that initially started the
>>>> subject... we
>>>>>> have already deviated the subject. Paulinus is a kind man.
>>>> However,
>>>>>> it is pretty to good warn in the beggining to not see him
>> falling
>>>> on
>>>>>> these flaws too... I have already seen many citizens sadly
>>>> falling on
>>>>>> the truculence temptation...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Tribune, I deplore any polemist and truculent conduct and
>> as
>>>>>> magistrate I make everything under my capabilities to prevent
>>>> this
>>>>>> kind of behaviour, and not only legally, but with my words
>> and
>>>>>> exemple, the most powerful acting. This is a public
>> compromise in
>>>>>> front of the gods and people of Rome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is ironical that this subject started when I was attacked
>> by
>>>>>> giving support to a very good citizen, Pompeia Minucia
>> Strabo,
>>>>>> refering to her imense qualities and roman virtues, comparing
>>>> with
>>>>>> real situations of Roman History, without talking of anyone
>> more.
>>>> But
>>>>>> this - hate - we see rotting Nova Roma, seems to turn
>> everything
>>>> on a
>>>>>> matter of battlefield. If I have deplored someone, it would
>> be
>>>> fair
>>>>>> someone coming in defense, but we cannot even praise the good
>>>>>> citizens, there is someone coming in attack? Where we are? On
>> a
>>>>>> tavern fight? Or on a recriation of the Roman Republic on its
>>>> best?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let´s drop the matter. These posts are pretty tiresome...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vale,
>>>>>> L. Arminius Faustus TRP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS. Yes, I know Kafka and have read him some times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Sicinius Drusus"
>>>>>> <drusus@b...> wrote:
>>>>>>> Salve,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Words are NOT violence unless they convey a threat of
>> physical
>>>> harm,
>>>>>>> and attempts to redefine them as such is an effort to
>> impose
>>>>>> political
>>>>>>> censorship.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kafkaesque refers to the novels of Kafka which presented a
>>>> surreal
>>>>>>> distortion of reality, an apt description of that
>> endorsement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> L. Sicinius Drusus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Arminius Faustus"
>>>>>>> <lafaustus@y...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Salve,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ill words are too a violence, and unfortunatly a very
>> common
>>>> form
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> agression in Nova Roma, specially dear to some factions
>> here,
>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> greater damage of Nova Roma. (This surely wasn´t the case
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>> I was talking)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "> If you wish to avoid being mocked then try to avoid
>>>> posting
>>>>>>>> something > best described as Kafkaesque Surreality, like
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> endorsement of Strabo."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I a mirror? You should read carefully your own posts
>>>> before
>>>>>> saying
>>>>>>>> this to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vale bene,
>>>>>>>> L. Arminius Faustus TRP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Sicinius
>> Drusus"
>>>>>>>> <drusus@b...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The sacrosanct status of a Tribune protects him from
>>>> physical
>>>>>>>> attacks,
>>>>>>>>> threats of violence, or legal action while he is a
>> Tribune.
>>>> It
>>>>>>>> offers
>>>>>>>>> no protection from being Mocked, neither from a citizen
>> nor
>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> Tribune.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you wish to avoid being mocked then try to avoid
>> posting
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> best described as Kafkaesque Surreality, like that
>>>> endorsement
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Strabo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> L. Sicinius Drusus
>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

> Who is the webmaster of the web of Nova Roma?

> Who is the webmaster of the web of Nova Roma?

----- Original Message -----
From: M. ADRIANVS COMPLVTENSIS
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:29 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] WEB OF NOVA ROMA


Salvete,

Who is the webmaster of the web of Nova Roma?

Valete bene

M.ADR. COMPLVTENSIS
Legatvs Hispaniae


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> AVETE OMNES
>
> We finally have the answers of Prof Cristofori, about
>
> "ROMAN ITALY"
>
> I found them really interesting, so I recommend them to all of

> I learnt a lot with this reading!
>
> Here you can read the answers:
> http://www.novaroma.org/expert/index.htm
>
> BENE VALETE
> L IUL SULLA
> Magister Academiae Italicae

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Iulius" <21aprile@e...>
> wrote:
> > AVETE OMNES
> >
> > We finally have the answers of Prof Cristofori, about
> >
> > "ROMAN ITALY"
> >
> > I found them really interesting, so I recommend them to all of
> you.
> > I learnt a lot with this reading!
> >
> > Here you can read the answers:
> > http://www.novaroma.org/expert/index.htm
> >
> > BENE VALETE
> > L IUL SULLA
> > Magister Academiae Italicae
>
> P.Minius Albucius Lucio Iulio Sullae s.d.,
> S.V.G.E.V.R.
>
> Dear Iucius Iulius,
>
> I did not find any answer at the address above. Are you sure that

> David's answers have been inserted in the web site ?
>
> Vale.
> Scr. Cadomago, Gallia, a.d. VI Nonas Quintiles MMDCCLVII a.u.c.

> AVETE SCRIBONI OMNESVQE
>
> I know Damanhur very well. In fact Valchiusella Valley is near to
> where I live and the venue of its bureau is in Turin, just in

> of my house. :-)
> Every time we talk about a real territory for Nova Roma I
> immediately think about Damanhur as something we could look at.

> have a small city in this valley, with its our architectural

> They have both residential and spiritual buildings. They get money
> to pay taxes from handicraft and web-design.
>
> BTW, in Valchiusella Valley there is also a Roman bridge...
> You see it would not be impossible to build a Roman community like
> Damanhur in Italy, just near Roman remains... :-)
>
> BENE VALETE
> M'Con.Serapio
> Propraetor Italiae

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, AthanasiosofSpfd@a... wrote:
> Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.
>
> In my capacity as Tribunus Plebis I report to the people of Nova
Roma that
> Lucius Pompeius Octavianus has resigned as a senator of Nova Roma
for personal
> reasons.
>
> Valete;
>
> Gaius Modius Athanasius
> Tribunus Plebis
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> From: "Lucius Arminius Faustus" <lafaustus@...>
> Subject: Re: Resignation of Senator Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
>
> Salvete,
>
> It is sadness no meaning. Latin America loses a representative on the
> Senate. However, we understand the necessities of him.
>
> Vale bene in pacem deorum,
> L. Arminius Faustus
> Brasilia Propraetor
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, AthanasiosofSpfd@a... wrote:
> > Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.
> >
> > In my capacity as Tribunus Plebis I report to the people of Nova
> Roma that
> > Lucius Pompeius Octavianus has resigned as a senator of Nova Roma
> for personal
> > reasons.
> >
> > Valete;
> >
> > Gaius Modius Athanasius
> > Tribunus Plebis

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:

> This could be construed as an unfairness on my part that I prefer a
style that
> reflects wit, humor, and good language skills.

> Actually I'm rather fond of the Roman art of Satire, but alas, the
> humor impaired Nova Roman Thought Police just jump up and down
> screaming "personal insult" when satire is attempted.
>
> Drusus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
>
> > This could be construed as an unfairness on my part that I prefer

> style that
> > reflects wit, humor, and good language skills.

> Hold on --- there are Nova Roman Thought Police? I wanna join! Do
> you get a badge? And a hat? Do they match the citizen's toga or are
> they shiny (well, at least the badge)? Do you get a whistle? I need
> to know more.
>
>
> Cato
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Sicinius Drusus"
> <drusus@b...> wrote:
> > Actually I'm rather fond of the Roman art of Satire, but alas, the
> > humor impaired Nova Roman Thought Police just jump up and down
> > screaming "personal insult" when satire is attempted.
> >
> > Drusus
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> >
> > > This could be construed as an unfairness on my part that I prefer
> a
> > style that
> > > reflects wit, humor, and good language skills.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <


Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix obtained a majority of
> centuries in the first round, and is elected Censor suffectus, to serve
> as such until the end of this year.

Congratulations - I've never been more pleased about an election result.

Flavia Lucilla Merula

> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:51:00 -0400 "Lucius Equitius" writes:

> >Salve, Seia
> >
> >I'm sorry I've neglected to reply to you since then. I can only claim

> >my fault and offer the excuse that I've been very busy with the kids and
> >going to physical therapy to rehabilitate my broken hip. It seems as

> >my problem is that the screws that they used to patch me up are becoming
> >loose, and are coming out! ouch! no wonder I'm in pain most of the
> >time whenever I move!?
> >
>
> Salve, Pater <G>
>
> That's OK ... It looks like our luck may be
> shifting LOL
>
> I'm sorry to hear that you have loose screws (sorry, couldn't help myself
> LOL)

> > Anyway, it's plain that Rose should be Rosa Equitia (doh, what was I
> >thinking?).
> >
>
> PERFECT!!!! Now as the proud grandPater could you announce it, please
> <G>

> >So, how are you all doing? I trust the baby is being properly spoiled ;-)
> >It's finally summer break and the weather hasn't gotten 'god awful
> >hot' so we're doing ok.
> >
> >Vale, Cincinnatus
> >
>
> Rose is definately spoiled LOL. She has just about everyone here wrapped
> tightly around one finger or another.
>
> The weather here is pretty much just plain hot LOL.
>
>
> Pax,

> In the contest for Censor, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix was the
>choice of 25 centuries. Pompeia Minucia-Tiberia Strabo was the
>choice of 18 centuries. 43 Centuries cast votes. There were eight
>centuries in which no vote was cast. Therefore the number of
>centuries required for a majority was 22. Lucius Cornelius Sulla
>Felix obtained a majority of centuries in the first round, and is
>elected Censor suffectus, to serve as such until the end of this
>year.
>
> Congratulations to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, and my thanks to
>both candidates for being willing to step forward to serve.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com ; NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com ; mediatlanticaprovincia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:20 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Voting Results from the Comitia Centuriata


Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Quiritibus Salutem Plurimam Dicit:

Chief Rogator Cordus has reported the results of the voting in the
Comitia Centuriata.


In the contest for Censor, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix was the choice
of 25 centuries. Pompeia Minucia-Tiberia Strabo was the choice of 18
centuries. 43 Centuries cast votes. There were eight centuries in which
no vote was cast. Therefore the number of centuries required for a
majority was 22. Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix obtained a majority of
centuries in the first round, and is elected Censor suffectus, to serve
as such until the end of this year.

Congratulations to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, and my thanks to both
candidates for being willing to step forward to serve.


The Lex Equitia Galeria de Ordinariis has been approved by the Comitia
Centuriata. 37 centuries voted to approve, 5 centuries voted against
approval, and nine centuries abstained. Having now been approved by the
Comitia Centuriata and by the Senate, the Lex Equitia Galeria de
Ordinariis amends the Constitution of Nova Roma.

My thanks to Tribune Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for his great help in
the drafting of this law. It provides us with the means to address a
difficult problem.

Valete Quirites,

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Consul


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> Actually I'm rather fond of the Roman art of Satire

> No Badges or hats, you just get to show selective outrage when the
> "wrong" person disagrees with the politicaly correct viewpoint.

> Salvete Civites Novae Romae:
>
> I am truly touched by the degree of support I received
> from the voting populace in this election. Although
> there can only be one Censor Suffectus, and in this
> case the electorial victor is Lucius Cornelius Sulla
> Felix, I do not feel a sense of loss, that is for
> sure. Rather, I am honoured that, despite past
> mistakes, you are willing to evaluate the positive
> things as well as the negative, and place your
> confidence in me to serve you as Censor.
>
> I was a little teary, to be honest, after I read the
> Comitia Centuriata results (I am sometimes a
> sentimental, passionate suck, admittedly)..not because
> I lost the election, because of the show of support
> for yours truly.
>
>
> As all of you are aware, I tend to offer advice,
> advocacy and my opinion :) on matters of weighted
> importance to the Republic, whether or not I am in an
> official position at any given time. This, of course,
> I shall continue to do as a interested citizen, former
> magistrate, advocate for religious freedoms (like the
> Religio) and friend. One can always offer an opinion,
> to be entertained by the appropriate authority, nonne?
>
> I shall continue to enjoy the company of some of you
> through the enjoyable work I do as Scribe for M.
> Iulius Perusianus and Legatus to Propraetor Marcus
> Darius Firmitus Canada Orientalis, plus relish the
> companionship offered through the Sodalitates.
>
> Again, my many heartfelt thanks and sincere
> appreciation, quirites.
>
> Valete,
> P. Minucia Tiberia
>
>
>
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> I'm pleased to announce the newest member of Gens Equitia.
>
> Rosa Equitia filiae Seia Silvania Atia Iunonis Templi Sacerdotes

----- Original Message -----
From: deciusiunius
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Congratulations Sulla


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<gawne@c...> wrote:

> In the contest for Censor, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix was the
>choice of 25 centuries. Pompeia Minucia-Tiberia Strabo was the
>choice of 18 centuries. 43 Centuries cast votes. There were eight
>centuries in which no vote was cast. Therefore the number of
>centuries required for a majority was 22. Lucius Cornelius Sulla
>Felix obtained a majority of centuries in the first round, and is
>elected Censor suffectus, to serve as such until the end of this
>year.
>
> Congratulations to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, and my thanks to
>both candidates for being willing to step forward to serve.

Congratulations to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix for his victory in
this election. The voters chose wisely.

Valete,

Palladius


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> L Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritibus salutem dicit
>
> Salvete
>
> I'm pleased to announce the newest member of Gens Equitia.
>
> Rosa Equitia filiae Seia Silvania Atia Iunonis Templi Sacerdotes
>
> Atia, please remember to send along the proper application to

> that she may be properly enrolled as a citizen.
>

> > I'm sorry to hear that you have loose screws (sorry, couldn't

> > LOL)
>
> L Equitius: Got me fair and square ;-)
>

> > > Anyway, it's plain that Rose should be Rosa Equitia (doh, what

> > >thinking?).
> > >
> >
> > PERFECT!!!! Now as the proud grandPater could you announce it,

> > <G>
>
> L Equitius: Indeed, I am proud.
>

> If NovaRoma has done nothing else it has allowed me to meet great

> make new friends. Think of your friends when you become

> one is rich who as many friends and a loving family.
>

> Great! This is great. Kudos!

> It behooves us to hold this feast, and I'm glad these games will
> commence NR this year, despite the Praetor's office being limited in
> manpower hours, and your own schedule Consul, I'm sure, having a limit
> of untaxed hours.

> Salvete Quirites,
>
> pompeia_minucia_tiberia wrote:
>
> > Great! This is great. Kudos!
>
> All thanks are due to Curule Aedile Iulius Scaurus, who brought the
> matter to my attention and who is willing to manage the Ludi.
>
> > It behooves us to hold this feast, and I'm glad these games will
> > commence NR this year, despite the Praetor's office being limited in
> > manpower hours, and your own schedule Consul, I'm sure, having a limit
> > of untaxed hours.
>
> Indeed. It has been a bit busy for me of late.
>
> Valete Quirites,
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

> Salvete omnes.
>
> As my former colleagues already know, on July 1st,2004 I resigned my
> seat as Senator

----- Original Message -----
From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Roman Eagle?


F. Galerius Aurelianus Tb. Galerio Paulino. Salve, cousin.

According to Webster and Connolly, during the Civil Wars and the early
Principate, the Eagles of the Legions were silver with gold accentuations. By the
reign of Claudius, the Eagles were gold. Eagles as a legio symbol were noted
as early as the Cataline War but this may be apocryphal. We know that Caesar's
legions in Gaul had eagles and Crassus had them in Persia. During the
greater part of the Republic when the maniple was the primary tactical unit, the
emblem was a hand with the maniple number below. These were usually silver and
bronze construction. The cohort became the primary tactical unit for both
legions and the auxiliary during the Civil Wars and this became standard by the
Principate. The maniple standard went out of use to be replaced by the cohort
standard, while centuries and other smaller formations separated from their
legion used the vexillari standard; which is similar to the Nova Roman flag.
There were also some cohorts that had some emblems in the shape of the
astrological sign of the formation. The Praetorian Guard cohorts used a scorpio; the
Sixth Legion had a capricorn. There were also gold and silver images of the
emperor and members of his family carried by imaginifers (I think that is what
they were called). Vale.


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> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> salvete, omnes.
>
> To all those citizens who live in the macronational United States,
> HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY! :-)

> Nova Romae S.P.D. Fl Vedius Germanicus
>
> S.V.B.E.E.V.
>
> I realize this has nothing to do with ancient Rome, and has little
> relevance to those readers outside of the United States, but I
> wanted to share a little tradition that we have instituted in my
> family, and which does mean a lot to me.
>
> I sat my 3-year-old daughter down with me, and we watched
> the "America Rock" segment of "Schoolhouse Rock". For those who
> don't know what that is, it's a collection of animated shorts...
> musical numbers... dealing with various aspects of American history
> and civics, focusing on the Revolution. We didn't just watch; we
> danced, we sang together, and during it all I tried to teach why it
> was important that she be a good citizen, and informed about how her
> country worked, and its origin.
>
> And, later, after my daughter was tucked away in her bed, my wife
> and I watched the musical "1776", which deals with the writing of
> the Declaration of Independence. It has a number of historical
> flubs, but the spirit of the film still comes through.
>
> My apologies and my thanks for indulging me in this reverie. Perhaps
> some day I can extend this tradition, so that my daughter can find
> this same experience in her second nationality; that as a Citizen of
> Nova Roma.
>
> Di vos incolumes custodiant,
>
> Flavius Vedius Germanicus
> Nova-Roman-American

> Salve
>
>
> Was the Roman Eagle a Golden Eagle that is still found or another

>
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
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> AVE FRANCISCE APVLE CAESAR TRIBVNE
>
> [snip]
>
> Yes. Damanhur is that. Of course, they had a lot of money
> to build all of that. We would need too... :-)
>
> BENE VALE
> M'Con.Serapio
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> The Honorable L. Sicinius Drusus Wrote:
>
> "This fits in with a project that I have had in the back of my mind for
> some time, but which I haven't had the time to do anything with. A

>
> MTV: That is a fantastic idea. I am not sure I have the spare time

>
>
> Ita di deaque faxint!
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> The Starting point would be deciding which Tales of Roman virtue would
> be in the Collection.
>
> I Would start the list with Cincinnatus doing his duty and giving up
> power as soon as the crisis was over and Horatius stand on the bridge.

> Salvete omnes, et salve Luci Sicini,
>
> Lucius Sicinius Drusus wrote:
>
> > The Starting point would be deciding which Tales of Roman virtue would
> > be in the Collection.
> >
> > I Would start the list with Cincinnatus doing his duty and giving up
> > power as soon as the crisis was over and Horatius stand on the bridge.
>
> Excellent choices, both. There's also a wonderful story related by
> Colleen McCullough in, I think, "The First Man In Rome," about a
> consular who was sent to Egypt to stop an invasion by Syrians. He
> walked out to meet them, with only his proconsular lictors behind him.
> When they came upon the Syrian army, he called for the king, and told
> him to turn around and go home. The King laughed at him, but the old
> consular took his staff and drew a circle around the King's feet,
> telling him that when he stepped out of that circle, it would be to go
> home, or else he would be calling down the entire might of Rome

>
> The king turned around and went home.
>
> It'w a wonderful story, and exactly the sort I think you should have in
> this collection.
>
> Vale,
>
> -- Marinus

> Salvete omnes, et salve Luci Sicini,
>
> Lucius Sicinius Drusus wrote:
>
> > The Starting point would be deciding which Tales of Roman virtue

> > be in the Collection.
> >
> > I Would start the list with Cincinnatus doing his duty and

> > power as soon as the crisis was over and Horatius stand on the

>
> Excellent choices, both. There's also a wonderful story related

> Colleen McCullough in, I think, "The First Man In Rome," about a
> consular who was sent to Egypt to stop an invasion by Syrians. He
> walked out to meet them, with only his proconsular lictors behind

> When they came upon the Syrian army, he called for the king, and

> him to turn around and go home. The King laughed at him, but the

> consular took his staff and drew a circle around the King's feet,
> telling him that when he stepped out of that circle, it would be

> home, or else he would be calling down the entire might of Rome

>
> The king turned around and went home.
>
> It'w a wonderful story, and exactly the sort I think you should

> this collection.
>
> Vale,
>
> -- Marinus

> Salvete,
>
> That Consular would have been..."da-ta-ta-da!"....
>
> none other than Gaius Popillius Laenas.
>
> Valete,
>
> Gaius Popillius Laenas

> some time, but which I haven't had the time to do anything with. A
> Children's collection of stories that feature tales of Ancient

> ones that are intended to teach the Civic and Personal values of

> Romans. I Offer the idea up now in the hope that someone who has

> time than I do will be able to transform it into reality.

> centuries in the first round, and is elected Censor suffectus, to serve
> as such until the end of this year.

----- Original Message -----
From: Diana Octavia Aventina
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting Results from the Comitia Centuriata


< Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix obtained a majority of
> centuries in the first round, and is elected Censor suffectus, to serve
> as such until the end of this year.

Congratulations to Sulla! Maybe now the Century points can be corrected on the NR website like I
have been complaining about since Jnauary.

Vale,
Diana

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> <I am sometimes a
> <sentimental, passionate suck, admittedly)..
>
> I'm sure the boys in the Forum are glad to hear that you

> Citizens and Magistrates,
>
> I do not subscribe to the Back Alley, precisely because it is off
> color.

>The young man has entered the brothel for the
> first time in many months; if his visits become daily,
> then it will be time for reprimands.

>
> Hmmm, I think we can safely rule that the Rape of Sabine
> Women wouldn't meet the criteria for a children's book.
>

> >
> > Hmmm, I think we can safely rule that the Rape of Sabine
> > Women wouldn't meet the criteria for a children's book.
> >
> It did. In what was no doubt the Romans' own bowdelrised
> version, that the Founding Fathers needed women, asked the
> Sabines nicely, got a flea in their collective ear, so came
> back and stole themselves wives. It did not occur to the
> author either that the women themselevs might have had some
> say in the matter! Nor would it to any traditional Indian.
>
> I remember 'inheriting' just such books of ancient myth &
> legend from my parental generation including the story. Myth
> and legend was published as normal children's literature (I
> suspect more boys') in the first half of the last century,

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, me-in-@d... wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmmm, I think we can safely rule that the Rape of Sabine
> > > Women wouldn't meet the criteria for a children's book.
> > >
> > It did. In what was no doubt the Romans' own bowdelrised
> > version, that the Founding Fathers needed women, asked the
> > Sabines nicely, got a flea in their collective ear, so came
> > back and stole themselves wives. It did not occur to the
> > author either that the women themselevs might have had some
> > say in the matter! Nor would it to any traditional Indian.
> >
> > I remember 'inheriting' just such books of ancient myth &
> > legend from my parental generation including the story. Myth
> > and legend was published as normal children's literature (I
> > suspect more boys') in the first half of the last century,
>
> Salve,
>
> That was then and this is now. A generation ago one didn't have

> radical feminist agenda, "political correctness" as well as the
> general "dumbing down" of education to deal with. Back then the

> Rape of the Sabine Women, even if sanitized for the age of the
> audience, would have been considered a normal part of a classical
> education. The only way to make the Rape of the Sabine Women
> palatible to the radical feminist and political correctness agenda
> would be to use it as an example of "evil patriarchial

> of women."
>
> If the Bible had never been put to pen and a publisher tried to
> publish it today it would be roundly denounced as a violent and
> filthy book full of rape, murder, incest, sodomy (though another
> word would have to be used since sodomy itself comes for the

> the degradation of women, and so on. However with just such a

> review it would be flying off the shelves faster than Harry Potter!
>
> Vale,
>
> Calvus

> Salve Quinte,
>
> That is a good point you make which I heard discussed before. The
> answer given back on these bible subject was, " True enough, the
> bible mentions adultery, incest, murder, sodomy etc but does not

> into the sexual scenes or subjects in graphic detail like Hustler
> Magazine, the Penthouse Forum, Fanny Hill etc; there lies the
> difference according to that discussion.

> Salvete virii,
>
> Another thought is that even the stories in the Old Testament
> are...uhhh..."prettified" for childrens' consumption. I'm not

> how to do so with the Abduction of the Sabines; just imagine the
> pictures...
>
> valete,
>
> Cato

>A. Apollonius Cordus to Sabina Equitia Doris, and to
>all citizens and peregrines, greetings.
>
>I can understand your feelings, but let's take a Roman
>attitude toward such things. There's a story told
>about old Cato - a man of stern morals if ever there
>was one - that, seeing a young, unmarried man of
>senatorial family go into a brothel, he remarked,
>'good'; when he saw the same young man entering the
>brothel for the fourth time, he said, 'I did not mean
>that you ought to live there'.
>
>Maybe Quaestor Aventina's remarks are not to
>everyone's taste, but the occasional low joke, meant
>and taken in good part, is not going to do anyone any
>harm. The young man has entered the brothel for the
>first time in many months; if his visits become daily,
>then it will be time for reprimands.
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: AthanasiosofSpfd@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Dignitas!


Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.

I find it ironic that "Romans" are so thin skinned myself.

When Salix Astur, one of our missing magistrates, essentially called me a dictator over gens reform earlier this year I did not raise a fuss or threaten him with lawsuits. I voted for Astur, and I can take an insult from time to time.

Valete;

Gaius Modius Athanasius

In a message dated 7/7/2004 9:38:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "A. Apollonius Cordus" <a_apollonius_cordus@...> writes:

>A. Apollonius Cordus to Sabina Equitia Doris, and to
>all citizens and peregrines, greetings.
>
>I can understand your feelings, but let's take a Roman
>attitude toward such things. There's a story told
>about old Cato - a man of stern morals if ever there
>was one - that, seeing a young, unmarried man of
>senatorial family go into a brothel, he remarked,
>'good'; when he saw the same young man entering the
>brothel for the fourth time, he said, 'I did not mean
>that you ought to live there'.
>
>Maybe Quaestor Aventina's remarks are not to
>everyone's taste, but the occasional low joke, meant
>and taken in good part, is not going to do anyone any
>harm. The young man has entered the brothel for the
>first time in many months; if his visits become daily,
>then it will be time for reprimands.
>
>
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