Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:

> "Oh, that's easy. the Boni are extra-terrestrial life-forms sent to
> earth solely to confuse its inhabitants. While the minds of
> earthlings are thrown into such disarray as they publicly
> marry themsleves, the Boni will subjugate the people of earth,
> forcing us into the Religio, no matter how hideous we look in a toga."
>
> Not only are the Boni members of the Roman Piso family, we are also
> ET's wicked cousins.

What more proof do we need? It's all there, by his own admission!

-- Marinus
(with tongue quite firmly in cheek)

Salve Marinus,

A wise precaution to add the rider that your tongue was firmly in
your cheek, lest you log on in a couple of days to find a rumour
floating around that you have evidence the Boni are all togate aliens
from Piso who want to marry everyone.

Of course the day after that the rumour would be that you are an
alien who wants to marry Drusus while wearing a toga made in Piso....

Vale
Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<gawne@c...> wrote:

> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
>
> > "Oh, that's easy. the Boni are extra-terrestrial life-forms sent

to

> > earth solely to confuse its inhabitants. While the minds of
> > earthlings are thrown into such disarray as they publicly
> > marry themsleves, the Boni will subjugate the people of earth,
> > forcing us into the Religio, no matter how hideous we look in a

toga."

> >
> > Not only are the Boni members of the Roman Piso family, we are

also

> > ET's wicked cousins.
>
> What more proof do we need? It's all there, by his own admission!
>
> -- Marinus
> (with tongue quite firmly in cheek)

Salve,

You are ULC as well?

----- Original Message -----
From: Kaelus Iulius
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:07 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Offered services


Salve,

For the record, even though I'm not yet a priest.. if anyone needs
either a marriage or funeral officiated, I am ordained to do so. My
ordination is valid (and recognized, but it might take a bit of
arguing in some jurisdictions) in all fifty states of the U.S., and
some parts of Canada.

Vale,
Kaelus Iulius


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G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.

salvete, omnes.

OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting married by
Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp and
brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?


Can I bring my horse?


valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
<gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:

> Salve Marinus,
>
> A wise precaution to add the rider that your tongue was firmly in
> your cheek, lest you log on in a couple of days to find a rumour
> floating around that you have evidence the Boni are all togate

aliens

> from Piso who want to marry everyone.
>
> Of course the day after that the rumour would be that you are an
> alien who wants to marry Drusus while wearing a toga made in

Piso....

>
> Vale
> Caesar
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> <gawne@c...> wrote:
> > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
> >
> > > "Oh, that's easy. the Boni are extra-terrestrial life-forms

sent

> to
> > > earth solely to confuse its inhabitants. While the minds of
> > > earthlings are thrown into such disarray as they publicly
> > > marry themsleves, the Boni will subjugate the people of earth,
> > > forcing us into the Religio, no matter how hideous we look in a
> toga."
> > >
> > > Not only are the Boni members of the Roman Piso family, we are
> also
> > > ET's wicked cousins.
> >
> > What more proof do we need? It's all there, by his own admission!
> >
> > -- Marinus
> > (with tongue quite firmly in cheek)

Salvete!

Lacus Magni, Regionis Orientalis will be hosting a dinner for any
and all citizens of Nova Roma who happen to be in Cincinnati, OH.
We will be holding the dinner at Buca di Beppo (address below), a
family-style Italian restaurant. We had our dinner in April at the
Columbus location which was a lot of fun. This will be a great
opportunity to get to know Nova Roma in a new light and on a local
level. We have several new citizens that I hope to meet there!

Please let me know if you plan to come so that I can adjust the
reservation as needed.

Place: Buca di Beppo Cincinnati - Rookwood Commons
2635 Edmondson Road
Norwood OH 45209
513.396.7673
www.bucadibeppo.com

Time: 2pm

Date: August 28, 2004

Attire: casual, no Roman attire necessary :)

RSVP: You can email me at: whiterose13.geo AT yahoo DOT com or
wr AT whiterosesgarden DOT com


If I have a chance, I will also be mailing out official invitations
again for those who are not subscribed to the lists.

Valete,

Agrippina Modia Aurelia
Procurator,
The Great Provincia Lacus Magni

Salve Cato!

Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.

I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in a
few hours).

So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.

Agrippina Modia Aurelia
(who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not going
to get me to run for tribune)

> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> salvete, omnes.
>
> OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting married

by

> Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp

and

> brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
>
>
> Can I bring my horse?
>
>
> valete,
>
> Cato

Salve, Cato.

Yes.... you can bring the wretched horse, just don't let it sit on
the controls. Last time that happened we lost the dinosaurs. :)

Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiusequitiuscato" <mlcinnyc@y...>
wrote:

> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> salvete, omnes.
>
> OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting married

by

> Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp

and

> brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
>
>
> Can I bring my horse?
>
>
> valete,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
> > Salve Marinus,
> >
> > A wise precaution to add the rider that your tongue was firmly in
> > your cheek, lest you log on in a couple of days to find a rumour
> > floating around that you have evidence the Boni are all togate
> aliens
> > from Piso who want to marry everyone.
> >
> > Of course the day after that the rumour would be that you are an
> > alien who wants to marry Drusus while wearing a toga made in
> Piso....
> >
> > Vale
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > <gawne@c...> wrote:
> > > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Oh, that's easy. the Boni are extra-terrestrial life-forms
> sent
> > to
> > > > earth solely to confuse its inhabitants. While the minds of
> > > > earthlings are thrown into such disarray as they publicly
> > > > marry themsleves, the Boni will subjugate the people of

earth,

> > > > forcing us into the Religio, no matter how hideous we look in

a

> > toga."
> > > >
> > > > Not only are the Boni members of the Roman Piso family, we

are

> > also
> > > > ET's wicked cousins.
> > >
> > > What more proof do we need? It's all there, by his own

admission!

> > >
> > > -- Marinus
> > > (with tongue quite firmly in cheek)

Boy and people think I control members of the Gens Cornelia! <eg>

Vale,

Sulla

----- Original Message -----
From: Agrippina Modia Aurelia
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:32 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: And yet more Boni


Salve Cato!

Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.

I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in a
few hours).

So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.

Agrippina Modia Aurelia
(who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not going
to get me to run for tribune)


> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> salvete, omnes.
>
> OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting married
by
> Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp
and
> brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
>
>
> Can I bring my horse?
>
>
> valete,
>
> Cato



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Here, Here! Well said!
Maxima Valeria Messallina

Samantha <lucia_modia_lupa@...> wrote:
Respectfully,
It is not just about gabbing about Rome. To be quite honest I could
easily do that at college, with local friends etc. I was under the
impression it was to adopt the lifestyle and virtues, not to make
everything one long history lesson. Don't get me wrong, I love
history. But we are still a community of people. To be quite honest
if all it ever was was history this and history that without any sort
of humanity or community it would get rather stagnant. Yes we love
Rome and we strive to be Romans. Certainly we can invest time in
research and gab about it. I spend alot of time researching, and even
more time it seems talking about it with other people.
But it one thing to just talk about Roman, and another to be it I
think. They can go hand in hand, but I think it would be a shame to
completely throw out one.
As for the humor. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Perhaps
someone would like to show evidence that Romans had no sense of humor
what so ever, and did not jokes or tease each other. Or argue for
that matter? If someone shows such evidence I will happily keep my
mouth shut, return solely to my studies and once again virtually
ignore the ML other then the brief visit. I am interested in talking
to Romans, not to more text books.

As for driving people off. I think it has more to do with alot of the
slander, and pettiness some people show, not to mention
vindictiveness. Who would want to hang around for that. Most of us
can get that with the people we live with, or at very least within
our own families.

Lucia Modia Lupa

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LOL! You ain't got nothing on Don-Athanasius ;-)

Agrippina

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
<alexious@e...> wrote:

> Boy and people think I control members of the Gens Cornelia! <eg>
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@c...>
wrote:

> Lucius Sicinius Drusus wrote:
>
> > The Boni are actually all members of the Roman Piso Family.
> >
> > http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/piso/
>
> I *knew* it!
>
> -- Marinus

And we mean to go on and on and on and on

We are the Boni - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Boni
We are the Boni
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Boni of the World

We are the Boni - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Boni
We are the Boni
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Boni

Drusus ;-)

LOL Boni of the world unite! <g>

Vale

Sulla

----- Original Message -----
From: John Dobbins
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:42 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: I Confess


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@c...>
wrote:
> Lucius Sicinius Drusus wrote:
>
> > The Boni are actually all members of the Roman Piso Family.
> >
> > http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/piso/
>
> I *knew* it!
>
> -- Marinus

And we mean to go on and on and on and on

We are the Boni - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Boni
We are the Boni
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Boni of the World

We are the Boni - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Boni
We are the Boni
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Boni

Drusus ;-)


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Salve,
I was thinking about the ULC this morning when I saw the first e-mail.
Since the ULC doesn't
care what your path or religion is and ordination is free maybe all of
the Pontiff's and Priest's
ought get ordained.

GnCL

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:07:51 -0500, Marcus Traianus Valerius
<genstraiana@...> wrote:

> Salve,
>
> You are ULC as well?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaelus Iulius
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:07 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Offered services
>
> Salve,
>
> For the record, even though I'm not yet a priest.. if anyone needs
> either a marriage or funeral officiated, I am ordained to do so. My
> ordination is valid (and recognized, but it might take a bit of
> arguing in some jurisdictions) in all fifty states of the U.S., and
> some parts of Canada.
>
> Vale,
> Kaelus Iulius
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You just made my day, Caesar. ::lmao::

Vale,
Kaelus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
<gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:

> Now lets see how long it takes before someone here in the Gaggle re-
> works this to:
>
> "Oh, that's easy. the Boni are extra-terrestrial life-forms sent to
> earth solely to confuse its inhabitants. While the minds of
> earthlings are thrown into such disarray as they publicly
> marry themsleves, the Boni will subjugate the people of earth,
> forcing us into the Religio, no matter how hideous we look in a

toga."

>
> Not only are the Boni members of the Roman Piso family, we are also
> ET's wicked cousins.
>
> Bit more free material for the urban myth makers to get creative

with.

>
> Vale
> Caesar
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Kaelus Iulius" <xkaelusx@y...>
> wrote:
> > Oh, that's easy. Mr. Rodman is an extra-terrestrial life-form

sent

> to
> > earth solely to confuse its inhabitants. While the minds of
> > earthlings are thrown into such disarray as Dennis Rodman

publicly

> > marries himself and the like, the unnamed interplanetary species
> will
> > subjugate the people of earth, forcing us into tranvestitism, no
> > matter how hideous we look in a dress.
> >
> > Of course, it could also just be that Dennis Rodman is crazy and
> > trying to draw attention to himself.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Lucius Modius Kaelus Iulianus
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes
> > <praefectus2324@y...> wrote:
> > > please lets not even touch that topic! im still trying
> > > to figure out dennis rodman...dont ask.
> > > --- drusus@b...
> > > <drusus@b...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ... same sex couples ...
> > > >
> > > > What in Hades does this have to do with Nova Roma?
> > > >
> > > > We have enough arguments about Nova Roma without
> > > dragging in USA
> > > > political arguments too.
> > > >
> > > > Drusus
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > S P Q R
> > >
> > > Fidelis Ad Mortem.
> > >
> > > Marcvs Flavivs Fides
> > > Roman Citizen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
<iguard@g...> wrote:

> Salve,
> I was thinking about the ULC this morning when I saw the first e-mail.
> Since the ULC doesn't
> care what your path or religion is and ordination is free maybe all of
> the Pontiff's and Priest's
> ought get ordained.
>
> GnCL

There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
IRS tax exempt status.

Drusus

I just thought that might be an idea. I've been ordained since '99 and
I did that for fun because I ran across their site and said what the
heck I'll do it. Three minutes later their
I was a Minister(Now I could put REV. in front of my name). I never
have done any services
because I am Deist.

GnCL

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:09:01 -0000, John Dobbins
<drusus@...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> <iguard@g...> wrote:
> > Salve,
> > I was thinking about the ULC this morning when I saw the first e-mail.
> > Since the ULC doesn't
> > care what your path or religion is and ordination is free maybe all of
> > the Pontiff's and Priest's
> > ought get ordained.
> >
> > GnCL
>
> There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
> ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
> recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
> IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
> IRS tax exempt status.
>
> Drusus
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--

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It might have been a good plan if the ULC hadn't screwed up in the
1970s and 80s by advertising that people could use that ordaniation to
avoid paying properity and Income taxes. Ever since then they have
raised red flags with the IRS.

Drusus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
<iguard@g...> wrote:

> I just thought that might be an idea. I've been ordained since '99 and
> I did that for fun because I ran across their site and said what the
> heck I'll do it. Three minutes later their
> I was a Minister(Now I could put REV. in front of my name). I never
> have done any services
> because I am Deist.
>
> GnCL
>
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:09:01 -0000, John Dobbins
> <drusus@b...> wrote:
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> > <iguard@g...> wrote:
> > > Salve,
> > > I was thinking about the ULC this morning when I saw the first

e-mail.

> > > Since the ULC doesn't
> > > care what your path or religion is and ordination is free maybe

all of

> > > the Pontiff's and Priest's
> > > ought get ordained.
> > >
> > > GnCL
> >
> > There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
> > ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
> > recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
> > IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
> > IRS tax exempt status.
> >
> > Drusus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> iChatAV/AIM: RomanHillbilly

Salve,

If one wishes to gain an ordination other than through the ULS you can go
with the Spiritual Humanists or Universal Ministries who provide ordination
via the internet as well. their web sites are
http://www.spiritualhumanism.org/ and http://universalministries.com/ .
They all accept you no matter what your faith is for ordination.

Clovius Ullerius Ursus
(ordained by all three and never had a problem with the IRS) :-)



Pukulpa Tjunguringkunytja - by Diana James


We walk together on sacred ground.
Black feet, white feet, treading softly on the land.
Mother Kuniya moves beneath our feet,
the Tjukurpa/Creation Law breathes life
into the sacred landscape of Uluru.

White guides and Anangu guides, working together. We stand firm in
the laws of the two cultures, keeping the cultural and natural heritage
strong.
Our feet on sacred ground our hands reach up to hold the new circle of life;
The campfire, the waterhole, where people of all cultures can meet and
share.

Argent, a natural panther's head sable, in chief three
gouttes d'huile.




_____

From: John Dobbins [mailto:drusus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:37 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Offered services


It might have been a good plan if the ULC hadn't screwed up in the
1970s and 80s by advertising that people could use that ordaniation to
avoid paying properity and Income taxes. Ever since then they have
raised red flags with the IRS.

Drusus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
<iguard@g...> wrote:

> I just thought that might be an idea. I've been ordained since '99 and
> I did that for fun because I ran across their site and said what the
> heck I'll do it. Three minutes later their
> I was a Minister(Now I could put REV. in front of my name). I never
> have done any services
> because I am Deist.
>
> GnCL
>
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:09:01 -0000, John Dobbins
> <drusus@b...> wrote:
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> > <iguard@g...> wrote:
> > > Salve,
> > > I was thinking about the ULC this morning when I saw the first

e-mail.

> > > Since the ULC doesn't
> > > care what your path or religion is and ordination is free maybe

all of

> > > the Pontiff's and Priest's
> > > ought get ordained.
> > >
> > > GnCL
> >
> > There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
> > ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
> > recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
> > IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
> > IRS tax exempt status.
> >
> > Drusus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> iChatAV/AIM: RomanHillbilly

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Salve!

Well, this sounds like fun. Can I come, too? I wanna see the comet, better yet, I wanna see Marinus and Drusus get married ( that should be one heck of an affair ) and I don't look too bad in a toga if I do say so myself, and I am saying so myself. I got horses and cats I can bring along and a swell dinosaur collection. I'll even bring Godzilla. And I promise to keep them off the controls. Well, I don't know about Godzilla. Really can't make any promises with him. Very stubborn fellow.

Maxima

P.S. I didn't know E.T. had wicked cousins! Which movie was that in?

Agrippina Modia Aurelia <whiterose13.geo@...> wrote:
Salve Cato!

Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.

I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in a
few hours).

So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.

Agrippina Modia Aurelia
(who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not going
to get me to run for tribune)

> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> salvete, omnes.
>
> OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting married

by

> Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp

and

> brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
>
>
> Can I bring my horse?
>
>
> valete,
>
> Cato

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Salve

I believe the movie was "Mutant nasty horrible evil Boni with long
digits (Part 57.5)" as directed by MaCa (Maior and Cato) Productions
Inc. and Micronation.

REVIEW:
Generally rated as unusitable for those of a nervous disposition or
those suffering from the terminal stages of paranoia frenzy. It tells
a less than believable tale of an evil plot spanning the millenia to
gain control of the galaxy, or if that isn;t possible the telephone
box outside of Liverpool Street Railway Station, London UK. Set to
the music of "Yellow Submarine" it comprises some violent camera work
(ala Balir Witch style) which combined with the nauseating plot will
produce vomiting in most people after the 103rd compulsory showing.

Anything else ya need to know :)? Oh, it one a "Turgid" - the other
end on the scale from an "Oscar"

Vale
Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima <violetphearsen@y...> wrote:
> Salve!
>
> Well, this sounds like fun. Can I come, too? I wanna see the comet,
better yet, I wanna see Marinus and Drusus get married ( that should
be one heck of an affair ) and I don't look too bad in a toga if I do
say so myself, and I am saying so myself. I got horses and cats I can
bring along and a swell dinosaur collection. I'll even bring
Godzilla. And I promise to keep them off the controls. Well, I don't
know about Godzilla. Really can't make any promises with him. Very
stubborn fellow.
>
> Maxima
>
> P.S. I didn't know E.T. had wicked cousins! Which movie was that in?
>
> Agrippina Modia Aurelia <whiterose13.geo@y...> wrote:
> Salve Cato!
>
> Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
> made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.
>
> I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
> Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
> this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
> think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in
a
> few hours).
>
> So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.
>
> Agrippina Modia Aurelia
> (who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not
going
> to get me to run for tribune)
>
>
> > G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
> >
> > salvete, omnes.
> >
> > OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting
married
> by
> > Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp
> and
> > brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
> >
> >
> > Can I bring my horse?
> >
> >
> > valete,
> >
> > Cato
>
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An Affair!!! LOL not a good omen for a wedding to use that word! <g>

Oh and just make sure that Toga isnt a flame colored one. :)

Vale,

Sulla

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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: And yet more Boni


Salve!

Well, this sounds like fun. Can I come, too? I wanna see the comet, better yet, I wanna see Marinus and Drusus get married ( that should be one heck of an affair ) and I don't look too bad in a toga if I do say so myself, and I am saying so myself. I got horses and cats I can bring along and a swell dinosaur collection. I'll even bring Godzilla. And I promise to keep them off the controls. Well, I don't know about Godzilla. Really can't make any promises with him. Very stubborn fellow.

Maxima

P.S. I didn't know E.T. had wicked cousins! Which movie was that in?

Agrippina Modia Aurelia <whiterose13.geo@...> wrote:
Salve Cato!

Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.

I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in a
few hours).

So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.

Agrippina Modia Aurelia
(who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not going
to get me to run for tribune)


> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> salvete, omnes.
>
> OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting married
by
> Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp
and
> brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
>
>
> Can I bring my horse?
>
>
> valete,
>
> Cato



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You forgot the IMDB rating. The viewers gave it a 1.5.

Vale,

Sulla

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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:29 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: And yet more Boni


Salve

I believe the movie was "Mutant nasty horrible evil Boni with long
digits (Part 57.5)" as directed by MaCa (Maior and Cato) Productions
Inc. and Micronation.

REVIEW:
Generally rated as unusitable for those of a nervous disposition or
those suffering from the terminal stages of paranoia frenzy. It tells
a less than believable tale of an evil plot spanning the millenia to
gain control of the galaxy, or if that isn;t possible the telephone
box outside of Liverpool Street Railway Station, London UK. Set to
the music of "Yellow Submarine" it comprises some violent camera work
(ala Balir Witch style) which combined with the nauseating plot will
produce vomiting in most people after the 103rd compulsory showing.

Anything else ya need to know :)? Oh, it one a "Turgid" - the other
end on the scale from an "Oscar"

Vale
Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima <violetphearsen@y...> wrote:
> Salve!
>
> Well, this sounds like fun. Can I come, too? I wanna see the comet,
better yet, I wanna see Marinus and Drusus get married ( that should
be one heck of an affair ) and I don't look too bad in a toga if I do
say so myself, and I am saying so myself. I got horses and cats I can
bring along and a swell dinosaur collection. I'll even bring
Godzilla. And I promise to keep them off the controls. Well, I don't
know about Godzilla. Really can't make any promises with him. Very
stubborn fellow.
>
> Maxima
>
> P.S. I didn't know E.T. had wicked cousins! Which movie was that in?
>
> Agrippina Modia Aurelia <whiterose13.geo@y...> wrote:
> Salve Cato!
>
> Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
> made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.
>
> I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
> Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
> this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
> think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in
a
> few hours).
>
> So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.
>
> Agrippina Modia Aurelia
> (who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not
going
> to get me to run for tribune)
>
>
> > G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
> >
> > salvete, omnes.
> >
> > OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting
married
> by
> > Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp
> and
> > brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
> >
> >
> > Can I bring my horse?
> >
> >
> > valete,
> >
> > Cato
>
>
>
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Sorry for my ignorance, but What is the meaning of that?

Vale bene,

Pompeianus.

John Dobbins <drusus@...> wrote:
The Boni are actually all members of the Roman Piso Family.

http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/piso/



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IUSIURANDUM

Pro lege Iunia 19 october 2752 a.u.c. de iusiurando,

Pro edicto III 10 quintilis 2757 a.u.c. Propraetore Galliae Lucio Rutilio Minervale, de Galliae praefectura,

Pro edicto V 3 sextilis 2757 a.u.c. Propraetore Galliae Lucio Rutilio Minervale, de interpretatoriae curiae creatione

Pro edicto VI 4 sextilis 2757 a.u.c. Propraetore Galliae Lucio Rutilio Minervale, de designatione proprie Publio Minio Albucio Scriba Propraetoris,

Ego, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), hoc ipso facto sollemniter iuro Novae Romae decus defendere et semper pro Novae Romae Populo atque Senatu agere.

Ut Novae Romae magistratus ego, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), Romae deos deasque colere iuro in omnibus publicae vitae temporibus atque Romanas virtutes et ublica et privata vita persequi.

Ego, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), Romanam religionem favere et defendere iuro ut Novae Romae Reipublicae religionem et numquam agere ita ut eius status publicae religionis aliquid detrimenti capiat.

Praeterea ego, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), iuro quam optime fungi officium muneris Scribae Propraetoris meum Novae Romae civis honore et coram Populi Romani deis atque deabus et eorum voluntate et favore, munus Scribae Propraetoris accipio, una cum iuribus, privilegiis, munera atque officia quae meum munus comportat.



OATH

Whereas this oath is issued for purposes corresponding to the purposes of :

- Oath Iunia act 19 october 2752 a.u.c.,

- Gallia Propraetor Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Edict number 3, 10 july 2757 a.u.c. about administration of Gallia province,

- Gallia Propraetor Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Edict number 5, 3 august 2757 a.u.c. creating an Translation Department (Curia),

- Gallia Propraetor Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Edict number 6, 4 august 2757 a.u.c. appointing notably Publius Minius Albucius as a Scriba Propraetoris,

I, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Propraetoris to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Scriba Propraetoris and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.





PRESTATION DE SERMENT

Vu la loi Iunia du 19 octobre 2752 a.u.c. sur la prestation de serment,

Vu l'édit III du 10 juillet 2757 a.u.c. par le Propréteur de Gaule Lucius Rutilius Minervalis sur l'administration de Gallia,

Vu l'édit V du 3 août 2757 a.u.c. par le Propréteur de Gaule Lucius Rutilius Minervalis instituant une Curie interprétariale,

Vu l'édit VI du 4 août 2757 a.u.c. par le Propréteur de Gaule Lucius Rutilius Minervalis désignant notamment Publius Minius Albucius comme Scriba Propraetoris,



Moi, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), jure solennellement par la présente de soutenir l'honneur de Nova Roma en toutes circonstances au mieux des intérêts du peuple et du Sénat de Nova Roma.

En tant que magistrat de Nova Roma, moi, Publius Minius (Christophe Puissant), jure d'honorer les Dieux et Déesses de Rome dans mes relations publiques et de poursuivre les Vertus Romaines dans ma vie publique et privée.

Moi, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), jure de soutenir et défendre la Religio Romana comme la Religion d'Etat de Nova Roma et jure de ne jamais agir d'une manière qui menace son statut de Religion d'Etat.

Moi, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), jure de protéger et de défendre la Constitution de Nova Roma.

Moi, Publius Minius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), jure de plus de remplir au mieux de mes capacités les obligations et responsabilités de la fonction de Scribe proprétorien.

Sur mon honneur en tant que citoyen de Nova Roma, en présence des Dieux et Déesses du peuple romain et par leur faveur et leur bon vouloir, j'accepte formellement d'assurer la fonction de Scribe proprétorien et tous les droits, privilèges, obligations et responsabilités qui s'y rattachent.



Scr. Cadomago, Gallia, Pridie Nonas sextiles MMDCCLVII a.u.c.








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Salvete,

So, you have in the mind to create a state as the Vatican. Well, I understand this point. And after this, what will it pass with the taxes that are paid to Nova Roma? will that money be distributed among the provinciae?

Vale bene,

Pompeianus.



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Salve, Fr. Apulus Caesare.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Roland Pirard"
<roland.pirard@s...> wrote:

> Salve Fr. Apulus Caesare !
>
> I agree with you: the Roman roots are in Europe, particularly in

Italy !

>
> Vale !
> Titus Apollonius Germanicus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: FAC
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:23 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Why is it that.....Aurelianus to Fuscus
>
>
> Salvete Omnes,
> several people here are joking about this argument and I'm

quite

> to have read stupid posts about the space-ports (we are not able

to

> live togheter in a mailing list and people are thinking yet to
> conquer the moon ... strange and human!!!).
> However I think this could be a good and serious topic.
>
> > Fuscus, you might as well know about the truth of the matter.

In

> all
> > likelihood, the administrative center for Nova Roma WILL be

built

> in
> > the USA.
>
> Why? this is not THE TRUTH and on contrary is quite un-historical
> and illogical and wrong in my personal opinion.
> Why an archeological and historical organization about the

Ancient Rome having goals about the conservation of the roman culture
would be built in a land where there aren't roman ruins, there isn't
roman culture, there aren't archeological projects, where the people
must to travel for thousands of kilometers to meet important public

>istitutions giving it live projects, etc.?

AURELIANUS: Nova Roma is not "...an archaeological and historical
organization about the Ancient Rome..." and the rest of this quote
didn't make very much sense to me. Tribune, I suggest you read the
Constitution of Nova Roma and the Declaration of Roman Paganism to
get a better clue as to what Nova Roma was founded for and about.

>
> Mine is not anti-americanism but I think we must to think about

NR like a common organization. Where NR could have more opportunities

> to work and organize real and live projects on roman tresury?
> If you take a popular academila book about economical sciences,
> you'll find that the best thing for an organization (or society,

or group, etc. and first of all if it's small) is to be installed
close to the own target.

>
> > Not because of ego or Ameri-centracism (is that actually a
> > word?) but because we don't have any places the Romans actually
> were
> > here. We GOT NO Roman sites or ruins in the whole continent.

You folks in Italia are surrounded by ruins and reconstructions of

>actual Roman sites. You have groups and individuals (like TiAnO)

who affiliate with those sites and get to have lots of fun among the
villas, forts, vinyards, etc. We Americans are going to have to
build it ourselves . . . from scratch.

>
>And this is one of the best reason to choose no American places to
>build our administrative center. In USA or Canada, etc. we will
>never live the roman culture because wwould be too far from the
>original places which could give more feelings and emotions.

AURELIANUS: Roman culture is not exclusively tied up in historical
sites, citizen, and Nova Roma is about a whole lot more than history
or archaeology.

>And in any way we must think about the future and the well of our
>organization and ask ourself what is the best solution to grow it.
>The growth of NR means to raise more money, to build relationship
>with important public istituitions, to create live projects
>restoring roman ruins, to permit to our citizens to work in this
>projects, to visit directly the places where our Fathers lived, to
>work with the Offices managing this places, etc.
>
>I know that this is very hard to be accepted by our american fellows
>and it could seem "too european" ... but this is THE TRUTH! Everyone
>here know that roman things are far from America and if we would
>restore Roma Antiqua we couldn't build a faulse pantheon, a copy of
>the colosseum, etc. This are ever copies and never the original. And
> we wouldn't build a "roman disneyland" like the Caesar in Las Vegas.
>This is not roman, this is not original, this is not traditionalism
>and this is not reconstructionism. This is like the managers in Las
>Vegas thinking that build a copy of Venice is like the original
>Venice.

AURELIANUS: What is "too European?" I have never noted that the
Europeans are that bound up together in much beyond an economic
union. Most Americans are more than willing to contribute to the
preservation of historic sites in Europe that are related to Rome.
Ultimately, there will likely be some regional meeting places in both
North America and Europe but in the chances are that the 108 acres
for the worldwide administration of Nova Roma will be in North
America. How much would 108 acres of land (near major roads and
cities with airports that also has reasonably affordable building
costs) cost near Rome, Milan, Brussels, London, York, Brussels, or
Paris?

>Only the original places could give us the real roman emotions and
>restore the ancient virtutes.

AURELIANUS; That is just plain horse excrement. Maybe a current day
person living in Rome can have "...real roman emotions..." and you do
not need to be standing on the Via Appia to "... restore the ancient
virtues." If you cannot carry that with you, then being next to the
Circus Maximus is not going to do it for you. Your remarks are pure
hyperbole.

>
>We got MILES & MILES OF MILES & MILES and it is near major highways

& towns. We are not going to look for land in the Balkans cause that
place ain't been the same since the Illyrian Pirates had it. Poland
may be good but you never know when those Huns are going to overrun
it again.

>
>The large areas in USA are a good reason bu not enough. Why we
>couldn't build the forum of NR too in the desert of Mexico, in the
>forests of Canada or Brazil or Thule, or in North-Africa, or in a
>greek island, or Australia, etc. The "miles" are not enough...

AURELIANUS: No one builds in deserts if it can be avoided. The
current situation in Lepcis Magnus is caused by the loss of
irrigation, agriculture, and climatic changes. It did not look that
way in Septimus Severus' day. Canada does have some possibilities as
does Brazil. Australia is even less central than Thule. Also, you
should really look into the political and religious stability and
tolerance of the areas you are mentioning. At present, Hellenic
pagan groups are under vicious attack and intoleration by the
Orthodox Church in Greece; where paganism has no official standing
and religious toleration is not part of their constitutional
documents.

>
> I wouldn't force you all to support the candidacy of Italy ;-)
> ... but I would give you an easy example.
> My father have two very little pieces of land in the country

close

> to my city, in south-italy. In one of this we cultivate grape for
> wine, the other is now empty. This second is exaclty in the

center

> of an ancient roman fort of the II cen. a.D., a wonderful place
> where you can find little rests of roman amphoras in the land. If

my

> father will decide to sell this land, this could be a wonderful
> place to build a very little nova roman forum.
> Or again, in the country close to Rome there are several villas

and

> ancient buildings close to roman ruins. They're expansive but the
> price is reasoned from the distance to the original places.
> I'm sure that we could find similar locations in Spains, France,
> Balcans, Germany, Britain, Belgium, Greece, Romania, etc.
>

Now I am lucky to live in a city where we have a full replica of
the Parthenon and two major Greco-Roman public buildings but we can't
use them for Nova Roma (apart from the Video Shoot in October).

>Sorry Aurelianus, with all the respect for you and yyour city, but I

think that a replica of the Parthenon is very sad ... ;-)
Have you seen the original Parthenon? Did it got you the same
emotions of the replica? WOuld do you prefer live and work close to
real greek building?

AURELIANUS: Actually, Caesare, you need to see the Nashville
Parthenon with the40' tall statue of Athene Parthenos in Her golden
and painted glory to get the full effect of just how much I feel
there. Or the giant statue of Vulcan sitting atop a hill in
Birmingham, Alabama. Could a modern day Hellene or Roman worship in
the ancient ruins in Rome or Athens? Could a fire be lit to Vesta in
the remnants of Her temple without a dozen alarms going off? I know
that I can worship Dii Immortales in the middle of my city without
having to worry about an Orthodox Metropolitan screaming at me on a
bull horn that I will burn in the Fiery Places of Hell.

>
> Vale
> Fr. Apulus Caesar

Vale.

F. Galerius Aurelianus

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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiusequitiuscato"
<mlcinnyc@y...> wrote:

> G. Equitius Cato L. Sicinio Druso S.D.
>
> salve, Sicinius Drusus.
>
> Oh my God! I just heard on CNN that JACQUES CHIRAC is a Bonus!

You

> guys really ARE everywhere!
>

Salve,

In deed, they have spies everywhere! I opened up my kitchen cabinet
and there is was sitting there. Oh wait, that's Bon Ami. Never
mind.....

Vale,

Calvus

F. Galerius Aurelianus G. Modio Athanasio. Salve.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, AthanasiosofSpfd@a... wrote:
> Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.
>
> One other "service" that I would like to see Nova Roma engage in is
offering
> some semblance of "rites of passage" to its members. I would like
to see the
> priesthood of Nova Roma be able to solemnize marriages and conduct
funerals.

These services were only provided by the Flamen Dialis for the
confarretio. Marriage in the Republic was usually more of a civil
union that a religious one. Funerals were much the same. Now there
were some religious oriented rites of passage such as the Liberalia
on 15 Kalends Aprilis for young men. Or the Parentalia when families
honored the sacred dead or manes.

> I know that these services were traditionally NOT done by the
priesthood, however, in this day and age people turn to the
priesthood for rites of passage. I believe it would be a viable
option for the priests of Nova Roma to be able to offer rites of
passage (ie., weddings and funerals) to citizens and even
non-citizens in need.

Sounds a little too revisionist to me, Athanasios. I would prefer to
keep the Religio in its proper place and not go branching off into
more modern ideas about what the priesthoods should be about rather
than what they are by tradition.
>
> I have conducted several weddings and funerals; however, not with
any clerical credentials provided by Nova Roma (which do not exist).
I DON'T believe priests of Nova Roma should "preach or evangelize"
but I do believe that offering simple rites of passage would offer
long term benefits. In Roma Antiqua funerals were handled by the
family; not everyone is ready for something like that. In Roma
Antiqua marriage was viewed much differently then it is today, I
> think it would be better for two Religio practitioners to be
married by a priest of Nova Roma then to force them to find a judge
or a Pagan priest in another tradition.
>
> Valete;
>
> Gaius Modius Athanasius
>
> In a message dated 8/4/2004 6:42:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> lucia_modia_lupa@y... writes:
> 1)CD-Rom disk. I am not thinking anything fancy here. But sometimes
> you just need a certain scrap of information just at a time when
you
> aren't anywhere near internet access. It has happened to me. A
> religio section for information regarding ritual, Roman religion,
> perhaps the preists of the different cults could submit a list of
> different important days for said deity and it could be arranged it
> that manner. Another section for current laws perhaps, and Nova
Roma
> politics *shrugs* I don't know. Roman virtues and history would be
a
> definently plus.
>
> 2)A yearly raffle. The amount you put in gets you so many
submissions
> into the raffle.. so say for example every 10 dollars get you a
> ticket in the raffle. And perhaps the prize could be a donated
peice
> of Roman inspired artwork (there are artists here in Nova Roma), at
> the end of tax season the raffle could be drawn. I am sure there
> would be folks who would be gleeful to be entered into a raffle for
a
> nice lararium.
>
> 3)Maybe a few Nova Roman artists could work up different paintings
or
> something that prints can be made from. Best one chosen and a
poster
> of this print sent to new members.
>
> 4)I liked the free subscription to the Eagle
>
> 5) I also like the idea of cute little certificates.
>
> 6) I suppose someone who knows who to make license plates or bumper
> stickers could go with that idea. It would be amusing if nothing
> else :D
>
>
> I am tired now. But those are a few random thoughts.
>
> Lucia Modia Lupa
>
>
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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus"
<richmal@c...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiusequitiuscato"
> <mlcinnyc@y...> wrote:
> > G. Equitius Cato L. Sicinio Druso S.D.
> >
> > salve, Sicinius Drusus.
> >
> > Oh my God! I just heard on CNN that JACQUES CHIRAC is a Bonus!
> You
> > guys really ARE everywhere!
> >
>
>
> Salve,
>
> In deed, they have spies everywhere! I opened up my kitchen cabinet
> and there is was sitting there. Oh wait, that's Bon Ami. Never
> mind.....
>
> Vale,
>
> Calvus

WE have just voted to admit some new members,

Kim Jong-il
Osama Bin Laden
The San Diego Chicken.

Drusus

> WE have just voted to admit some new members,
>
> Kim Jong-il
> Osama Bin Laden
> The San Diego Chicken.
>
> Drusus

Hey! Those first two are fine, but I don't remember voting for that
damn chicken!


Laenas

John Dobbins wrote:

> WE have just voted to admit some new members,
>
> Kim Jong-il
> Osama Bin Laden
> The San Diego Chicken.

The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new depth
of depravity even for you!

That's it! The wedding is OFF!

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Now if these two kids cant make a wedding work...what hope is there for the rest of us?

Vale,

Sulla

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gawne
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Boni


John Dobbins wrote:

> WE have just voted to admit some new members,
>
> Kim Jong-il
> Osama Bin Laden
> The San Diego Chicken.

The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new depth
of depravity even for you!

That's it! The wedding is OFF!

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@c...> wrote:

> John Dobbins wrote:
>
> > WE have just voted to admit some new members,
> >
> > Kim Jong-il
> > Osama Bin Laden
> > The San Diego Chicken.
>
> The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new depth
> of depravity even for you!
>
> That's it! The wedding is OFF!
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

MoJo JoJo threatened to leave if we didn't let the chicken in and we
just handle all those long posts from him so we gave in.

Drusus

Gaius Modius Athanasius M. Arminiae Maior Fabianae salutem dicit

Are you completely crazy?

When will the senate list be open?
When will the individual cohors lists be open? Caeso Fabius will not even
allow the other censor on his cohors list.

Somethings are best kept private. The Boni are growing, as people get tired
of trivial modernization and role-playing.

There are about 200 tax payers...then 10% of the Assidui of Nova Roma are
Boni, and we are growing.

The modernists can NO longer talk about the Boni in the shadows as if we are
some evil group out to destroy Nova Roma. Many of us have come out and said,
"I AM A BONUS," and done so with pride -- I suspect more will follow.

Vale;

Gaius Modius Athanasius
Bonus

In a message dated 8/4/2004 1:28:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rory12001@... writes:
Salve Palladi:
I'm not paranoid at all just mystified; which you can entirely clear
up by making the Boni list public - see no problem.
vale
M. Arminia Maior Fabiana


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Gaius Modius Athanasius Agrippinae Modiae Aureliae salutem dicit

Having all these people come out in the open about being in the Boni make me
so proud :)

And to think...we are Assidui, supporting Nova Roma. Working hard to build
up our Republic. It all makes the rumors about the evil Boni so obsurd!

Vale;

Gaius Modius Athanasius
(the evil anal retentive pater who will eventually get you to run for tribune)

In a message dated 8/4/2004 4:33:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whiterose13.geo@... writes:
Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches Cato.

I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in a
few hours).

So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.

Agrippina Modia Aurelia
(who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not going
to get me to run for tribune)


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I like it...I like it. :)

Modius

In a message dated 8/4/2004 4:38:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whiterose13.geo@... writes:
LOL! You ain't got nothing on Don-Athanasius ;-)

Agrippina


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Drusus:

I'm curious were you got this information. The government doesn't care were
you are ordained from, even from multiple sources. I know Gnostic Bishops who
have mutliple conditional consecrations from numerous lineages. I also know
Wiccans who have degrees in several traditions.

The government doesn't distinguish who is and who is not a legitimate
spiritual tradition. Jehovahs Witnesses have "valid" ministers, as do Catholics, and
Pagans. "Recognition" deals with taxes, not spirituality or religious
traditions.

Vale;

Gaius Modius Athanasis

In a message dated 8/4/2004 5:10:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
drusus@... writes:
There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
IRS tax exempt status.

Drusus


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The IRS is the big hurdle, and they have fought several court battles
against people using ULC ordanitions in tax scams. The Church used to
charge money for ordaining you, and advertise that their ordainations
would allow you to avoid income and properity taxes.

The ULC raises red flags at the IRS when it comes time to file for tax
exempt status.

Drusus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, AthanasiosofSpfd@a... wrote:
>
> Drusus:
>
> I'm curious were you got this information. The government doesn't
care were
> you are ordained from, even from multiple sources. I know Gnostic
Bishops who
> have mutliple conditional consecrations from numerous lineages. I
also know
> Wiccans who have degrees in several traditions.
>
> The government doesn't distinguish who is and who is not a legitimate
> spiritual tradition. Jehovahs Witnesses have "valid" ministers, as
do Catholics, and
> Pagans. "Recognition" deals with taxes, not spirituality or religious
> traditions.
>
> Vale;
>
> Gaius Modius Athanasis
>
> In a message dated 8/4/2004 5:10:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> drusus@b... writes:
> There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
> ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
> recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
> IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
> IRS tax exempt status.
>
> Drusus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete,
The Collegium Pontificum, convened by Pontifices Gaius Modius Athanasius and
L. Sicinius Drusus has enacted the following Decretum effective immediately:

Decretum on Nova Roman Calendar

The Decretum passed on Ante Deium VIII Kalendas Aprilis 2754 (25 March 2001)
is hereby amended.

The Official Calendar of Nova Roma will be the Gregorian Calendar with the
following modifications:
I) Years will be reckoned from the founding of Rome rather than the common
era.
II) The addition of intercalary days will be determined by the Gregorian
formula using the common era as a reference, but will be inserted between Ante
Deium VI Kalenas Martis (24 February) and Ante Deium V Kalendas Martis (25
February).

The month names of the Julian calendar as revised by Augustus and the
Gregorian calendar will be the official names in Nova Roma.

To fulfill the Vow of adding an additional Dies Nefastus Pridie Kalendas
Ianuarii (31 December) is hereby designated a Dies Nefastus on the Calendar of
Nova Roma as a piacular offering to the Gods of Roma. Each year this day will
be reserved for the making of piacular offerings for any offenses to the Gods
that may have occurred during the year.

Due to the failure of Nova Roma's Collegium Pontificum to act in a timely
manner this day was not observed in 2754, 2755, and 2756. (2001, 2002, 2003).
To correct this three additional days are hereby declared Nefastus for this
year only. Ante Deium V Kalendas Ianuarii, Ante Deium IV Kalendas Ianuarii, and
Ante Deium III Kalendas Ianuarii (28 December, 29 December, 30 December)
will be Dies Nefastus for the year 2757 (2004). As a Piacular Offering for
failing to celebrate these days at the proper time one additional day is hereby
designated Nefastus in 2757. That day shall be Ante Deium VI Kalendas Ianuarii
(27 December).

The Following format will be used for all official dates in Nova Roma:
I) The Date will be stated in Roman reckoning using the Ante Deium system
followed by the year in AUC Format.
II) This will be followed by a restating of the date in modern format inside
of parentheses.

As an example: Ante Diem VIII Kalendas Augusti, 2757 (25 July 2004)


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Salvete,

The Collegium Pontificum, convened by Pontifices Gaius Modius Athanasius and
L. Sicinius Drusus has approved the following Citizens to Priesthood
Positions. I hope that all will welcome them into their new roles in the Religio
Romana.

Flavius Galerius Aurelianus (Flamen Cerealis)
APPROVED (7 Uti Rogas)


Lucia Modia Lupa (Sacerdos Diana)
APPROVED (7 Uti Rogas)

Agrippina Modia Aurelia (Sacerdos Necessitas)
APPROVED (7 Uti Rogas)






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Salvete Quirites,

It seems we're to have some serious conversation for a while now.

AthanasiosofSpfd@... wrote:

[About private lists, and why they're private. In general I agree,
and certainly so with respect to the magistrates' lists.]

> Somethings are best kept private.

And indeed I figure the Boni have every right to their own private
mailing list.

> The Boni are growing, as people get tired
> of trivial modernization and role-playing.

Of course now we come to the unwarranted attack. What trivial
modernization? What role-playing?

> There are about 200 tax payers...then 10% of the Assidui of Nova Roma are
> Boni, and we are growing.

So about 90% of the Assidui of Nova Roma are not Boni, and I consider
that a Good Thing.

> The modernists can NO longer talk about the Boni in the shadows as if we are
> some evil group out to destroy Nova Roma.

And just what modernists would you be refering to? If you think to include
me in that number, I'll save you some typing. I'm no more a modernist than
you are. I do have a different focus of interest in Nova Roma than the
one you have. I also think that the Boni, at least the self-admitted Boni
like QFM and LSD and LCSF and more recently you, are a bunch of narrowly
focused bullies bent on driving people who disagree with your view of
what the Republic ought to be away from Nova Roma. I have been quite
disappointed with the shift toward confrontational positions you've evinced
since you chose to join the Boni, and I don't think you've served the
Republic or yourself well.

Whatever the Boni claim to stand for, I'll tell you what they're not. The
Boni are *not* interested in adherence to the mos maiorum. You all have
a skewed notion of Romanitas that you're extracted from somewhere, and you
reinforce it in each other. You don't study, and you indicate no interest
at all in scholarly exchanges of information. When you cite a source, you
do so only as a form of Dominance behavior, claiming expertise you don't
really have to make a poorly constructed argument you couldn't otherwise
make. (QFM is the occassional exception, but he is exposed by true
scholars.)

> Many of us have come out and said,
> "I AM A BONUS," and done so with pride -- I suspect more will follow.

*shrug*

Take all the pride you want in it. As far as I'm concerned you're all
still displaying the same behaviors that street gangs display. You
show little subtlety and less tact, and if you don't get things the
way you want you set out to make things miserable for everyone else.

Valete Quirites,

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Hi Mike

The Picture has been posted to our yahoo site

I have 5 paid orders that I will put in the mail on Thursday and will ask the others who made a commitment for the ring to send theirs in as well.


All of your efforts are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED I apologies for the slowness of our members response and will do all I can to get them off their butts.


Thanks for all the work

Tim Gallagher

----- Original Message -----
From: MIKE CARROLL
To: Stephen Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: SPQR Ring


Tim, In one of my emails to you that you posted on the
Nova Roma board, Bill Hogue, one of the members,
emailed me asking for a photo of the ring. After I
completed the ring, I sent a copy to you as well as
Bill Hogue. Apparently he posted it on the Nova Roma
board.

Please be advised that I have taken the initiative to
complete the ring without the compensation
and it is now ready for your members. Also please note
that I have spent considerable time on this ring.

Are you planning to make an announcement to the SPQR
group that the ring available? Can you send an email
with a photo to the entire group? What steps should I
take to make the group aware that it is available? I
think we should discuss what efforts need to be taken
to promote the ring. Please call or email me at your
earliest convenience.

--- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> Great
>
> I will call in a day or two.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MIKE CARROLL
> To: Stephen Gallagher
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: SPQR Ring
>
>
> Tim, I have completed the SPQR ring and was
> planning
> to post it on our website or develop a separate
> site
> for marketing. Are you prepared to submit the 20
> orders? Please respond though email or give me a
> call
> ASAP. Thanks. Mike
>
> --- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:
> > Hi Mike
> >
> > No I have not forgotten you or you gorgeous SPQR
> > Ring. We have been trying to get as many orders
> as
> > possible. Right now we have 20 people signed up
> to
> > buy the SPQR ring. Is enough to get started?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tim Gallagher
> > spqr753@...
>
>
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M.Arminia Maior G. Modio Athanasio salutem dicit

>
>Modius: Are you completely crazy?

Maior: hmm 'crazy', 'paranoid' & 'hysterical' all adjectives you
apply when asking a straighfoward question: "why not open your list?"

>
>Modius: When will the senate list be open?
> Caeso Fabius will not even
> allow the other censor on his cohors list.

Maior: why are you comparing yourselves to the government?

>
> Modius: Somethings are best kept private. The Boni are growing, as

people get tired

> of trivial modernization and role-playing.

Maior: why is it best kept private? Do you have something to hide.
do you think the Republic is trivial, as you preferred a
Dictator, do you think laws are unecessary? Why are you a Tribune
Plebis? Frankly since you don't seem at all devoted to the Republic,
laws, and government of Roma Antiqua, I think you are the modernist
entirely.

>
>Maior: I would call myself a popularis, I am for the Republic, the

laws, the Religio, the micronation of NR. I also act independently,
openly and speak frankly. Everything I stand for or say is right
here on the ML for the cives to scrutinise; to accept or reject.

vale
M. Arminia Maior Fabiana

Salvete,

The Collegium Pontificum, convened by Gaius Modius Athanasius and L.
Sicinius Drusus, has chosen the following Lictors and Lictor Alternates. Many thanks
to all who applied for this position.

Lictor Appointments:

Those in Category A have been selected to serve as Lictors. Those in
Category B are potential Lictors if more are needed.

Category A
7 Gaius Modius Athanasius
7 Lucius Sicinius Drusus
7 Marcus Bianchius Antonius
7 Gaius Popillius Laenas
6 Giaus Iulius Scaurus
5 Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
5 Diana Octavia Aventina
4 Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
4 Francisco Apulus Caesar
4 Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus

Category B


3 Aulus Apollonius Cordus
3 Gnaeus Iulius Caesar
3 Caius Curius Saturninus
2 Marcus Traianus Valerius
2 Manius Constantinus Serapio
1 L Iulius Sulla
Lucius Arminius Faustus
Titus Licinius Crassus
Flavia Tullia Valeria Scholastica
Servius Ambrosius Germanicus
Lucianus Octavius Romulus
Lucia Ambrosia Apollinaris
Tiberius Arcanus Agricola


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Salvete:
it's nice to see that 8 out of 10 appointments are all Boni. Well
done!

> vale Maior


> Lictor Appointments:
>
> Those in Category A have been selected to serve as Lictors. Those

in

> Category B are potential Lictors if more are needed.
>
> Category A
> 7 Gaius Modius Athanasius
> 7 Lucius Sicinius Drusus
> 7 Marcus Bianchius Antonius
> 7 Gaius Popillius Laenas
> 6 Giaus Iulius Scaurus
> 5 Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> 5 Diana Octavia Aventina
> 4 Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> 4 Francisco Apulus Caesar
> 4 Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
>
>

ROFL,

Did you sign them up for the Boni like you signed Vedius up?

There's a Boni, and there, and there!

Drusus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Salvete:
> it's nice to see that 8 out of 10 appointments are all Boni. Well
> done!
> > vale Maior
>
>
> > Lictor Appointments:
> >
> > Those in Category A have been selected to serve as Lictors. Those
> in
> > Category B are potential Lictors if more are needed.
> >
> > Category A
> > 7 Gaius Modius Athanasius
> > 7 Lucius Sicinius Drusus
> > 7 Marcus Bianchius Antonius
> > 7 Gaius Popillius Laenas
> > 6 Giaus Iulius Scaurus
> > 5 Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > 5 Diana Octavia Aventina
> > 4 Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> > 4 Francisco Apulus Caesar
> > 4 Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
> >
> >

Salve Romans

If your name is on this list it is because you told me you wanted an SPQR ring. Five people have sent in a payment the rest of you need to do so NOW.

Mike Carroll has spent time and MONEY to design this ring for US and my reputation is on the line in the fact that I can only send him 5 paid orders instead of 22.

Is this one more example of the follow through or the lack thereof of NOVA ROMANS??????


A very pissed off

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


1. Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Size 11
2. Quintus Lanius Paulinus Size 12
3. Marcus Bianchius Antonius
4. Q. Bianchius Rufinus
5. Appius Tullius Cato
6-11 Equitius Paternus
12. Galius Adoreus Caesar
13. Iono Basilicatus
14 L. Cornelius Sardonicus Size 11
15. and 16 and 17 Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus & Gnaeus Scribonius Scriptor
18. Claudia Fabia Calpurnia

19. Servius Fidelius Longinius
20. Annia Octavia Indagatrix
21. Dwayne Gillespie
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>>It all makes the rumors about the evil Boni so obsurd!<<

Well, you have to admit, Kim Il and Osama are kinda evil. Not to
mention that damned Chicken.

Laenas
(Super fan of the Mighty Oakland Raiders).

Salvete Quirites,

Congratulations to our new Flamen and Sacerdi!

Valete,

G. Popillius Laenas

Maior wrote:

>
> Salvete:
> it's nice to see that 8 out of 10 appointments are all Boni.

I'd take it as a favor if you, and all others, would refrain from
making such suggestions. In this matter I feel sure that the
applicants who were considered best qualified were selected.

My congratulations to all new lictors, and my sincere thanks to
all who offered their services.

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

>
> My congratulations to all new lictors, and my sincere thanks to
> all who offered their services.
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Salvete Quirites,

May I second the above congratulations.

Valete,

G. Popillius Laenas

Salvete Quirites,


Please join me in congratulating

> Flavius Galerius Aurelianus (Flamen Cerealis)

> Lucia Modia Lupa (Sacerdos Diana)

and

> Agrippina Modia Aurelia (Sacerdos Necessitas)

on their appointments. This is a great honor.


Valete,

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

F. Galerius Aurelianus M. Arminia Maior Fabiana. Salve.

O.K., I reject your statements in this message. The Boni as a
private organization in Nova Roma have a right to keep their list
private and you insult their rights and privileges by your suggestion.

To G. Modius Athanasios--The cohors of Censor Quintilianus is his
personal staff guaranteed by the Constitution and Leges of Nova
Roma. His colleague is not entitled to have access simply because he
is also a Censor. Sulla Felix can organize his own censorial cohors
and Quintilianus will not have any right to access it either. The
Senate list is also closed for good reason but the Tribunes have a
right to know about their deliberations to protect the Plebs just as
the Flamen Cerealis has a historic precedent to have the a copy of
the Senate records stored in the Temple of Ceres.

To all parties interested in this thread: There are certain lists
that are closed to the populi because the deliberations of those
lists are protected by privilege, right, and tradition. Whether
computer lists or the actual deliberations of the Senate or Collegium
Pontificum.

Before making proposals that would conflict with the Constitution,
Leges, and Edicta of Nova Roma, please read up on it first so as to
prevent citizens from developing an opinion about the poster that is
very negative.

Valete.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> M.Arminia Maior G. Modio Athanasio salutem dicit
> >
> >Modius: Are you completely crazy?
>
> Maior: hmm 'crazy', 'paranoid' & 'hysterical' all adjectives you
> apply when asking a straighfoward question: "why not open your
list?"
> >
> >Modius: When will the senate list be open?
> > Caeso Fabius will not even
> > allow the other censor on his cohors list.
> Maior: why are you comparing yourselves to the government?
> >
> > Modius: Somethings are best kept private. The Boni are growing,
as
> people get tired
> > of trivial modernization and role-playing.
>
> Maior: why is it best kept private? Do you have something to hide.
> do you think the Republic is trivial, as you preferred a
> Dictator, do you think laws are unecessary? Why are you a Tribune
> Plebis? Frankly since you don't seem at all devoted to the
Republic,
> laws, and government of Roma Antiqua, I think you are the modernist
> entirely.
>
> >
> >Maior: I would call myself a popularis, I am for the Republic, the
> laws, the Religio, the micronation of NR. I also act
independently,
> openly and speak frankly. Everything I stand for or say is right
> here on the ML for the cives to scrutinise; to accept or reject.
>
> vale
> M. Arminia Maior Fabiana

Salve, Fabiana.

Do I smell sarcasm? Before you make such a remark, you might want to
find out how the lictors were selected, who selected them, was it
based on first come, first serve; or some other method? You are
beginning to appear to have lost any kind of objectivity, domina.

Aurelianus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Salvete:
> it's nice to see that 8 out of 10 appointments are all Boni. Well
> done!
> > vale Maior
>
>
> > Lictor Appointments:
> >
> > Those in Category A have been selected to serve as Lictors.
Those
> in
> > Category B are potential Lictors if more are needed.
> >
> > Category A
> > 7 Gaius Modius Athanasius
> > 7 Lucius Sicinius Drusus
> > 7 Marcus Bianchius Antonius
> > 7 Gaius Popillius Laenas
> > 6 Giaus Iulius Scaurus
> > 5 Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > 5 Diana Octavia Aventina
> > 4 Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> > 4 Francisco Apulus Caesar
> > 4 Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
> >
> >

Beginning to appear? Boy are you kind!

Vale,

Sulla

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick D. Owen
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: New Lictores of the Comitia Curiata-Aurelianus to Fabiana


Salve, Fabiana.

Do I smell sarcasm? Before you make such a remark, you might want to
find out how the lictors were selected, who selected them, was it
based on first come, first serve; or some other method? You are
beginning to appear to have lost any kind of objectivity, domina.

Aurelianus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> Salvete:
> it's nice to see that 8 out of 10 appointments are all Boni. Well
> done!
> > vale Maior
>
>
> > Lictor Appointments:
> >
> > Those in Category A have been selected to serve as Lictors.
Those
> in
> > Category B are potential Lictors if more are needed.
> >
> > Category A
> > 7 Gaius Modius Athanasius
> > 7 Lucius Sicinius Drusus
> > 7 Marcus Bianchius Antonius
> > 7 Gaius Popillius Laenas
> > 6 Giaus Iulius Scaurus
> > 5 Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> > 5 Diana Octavia Aventina
> > 4 Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
> > 4 Francisco Apulus Caesar
> > 4 Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
> >
> >


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Avete Omnes,

Today it is my privilege to appoint Gaius Modius Athanasius, as my scriba. His primary function will be to assist me with the Tribal and Century corrections and re-alignment. His appointment is effective immediately.

In addition to Gaius Modius's appointment it is my sincere pleasure to appoint Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur as my scriba. His primary function will be to assist me in nomenclature responsibilities and resolving gens/citizenship issues. His appointment is effective today

This edict is becomes effective immediately. During the Consulship of Gnaeus Salix Astur and Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.

Respectfully,

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hee hee now I can put this here in response, O Drusus!

To "Californis Girls"


Well, East Coast Boni look like they don't wash themselves for days,
And the Southern Boni, with the way they talk, they make me want to
run down strays.
The Midwest farmer Boni cut their chickens' heads alright,
And the Northern Boni, with the pontiffs' help, they keep their
hands clean in a fight.

I wish they all could be anti-Boni,
(wish they all could be anti-Boni)
I wish they all could be anti-Boni boys.
The Boni have the Senate and the CP wrapped up fair,
I dig a purple-striped toga on the Senate floor, my name inscribed
on an curule chair.
I been all round this great respublica and I want to see some more,
yeah, but if I don't kow-tow to the religio,
the Boni'll show me to the door...


Cato :-)


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Dobbins" <drusus@b...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

<gawne@c...>

> wrote:
> > Lucius Sicinius Drusus wrote:
> >
> > > The Boni are actually all members of the Roman Piso Family.
> > >
> > > http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/piso/
> >
> > I *knew* it!
> >
> > -- Marinus
>
> And we mean to go on and on and on and on
>
> We are the Boni - my friends
> And we'll keep on fighting
> Till the end
> We are the Boni
> We are the Boni
> No time for losers
> 'Cause we are the Boni of the World
>
> We are the Boni - my friends
> And we'll keep on fighting
> Till the end
> We are the Boni
> We are the Boni
> No time for losers
> 'Cause we are the Boni
>
> Drusus ;-)

Salve!

It was "GREMLINS", I believe.

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima <violetphearsen@y...> wrote:
> Salve!
>
> Well, this sounds like fun. Can I come, too? I wanna see the
comet, better yet, I wanna see Marinus and Drusus get married ( that
should be one heck of an affair ) and I don't look too bad in a toga
if I do say so myself, and I am saying so myself. I got horses and
cats I can bring along and a swell dinosaur collection. I'll even
bring Godzilla. And I promise to keep them off the controls. Well, I
don't know about Godzilla. Really can't make any promises with him.
Very stubborn fellow.
>
> Maxima
>
> P.S. I didn't know E.T. had wicked cousins! Which movie was that
in?
>
> Agrippina Modia Aurelia <whiterose13.geo@y...> wrote:
> Salve Cato!
>
> Of course you can. I brought my cats. Oh, yeah, I was recently
> made a member of the Boni too. My evilness has many reaches
Cato.
>
> I haven't seen any evil plots yet (darn), and as a the Mistress of
> Evil (sorry, BA reference), I know evil when I see it. Of course
> this Marinus/Drusus marriage would probably qualify but I don't
> think it's made the Boni list yet (then again I haven't checked in
a
> few hours).
>
> So pack up the feedbag and get in line for the comet.
>
> Agrippina Modia Aurelia
> (who's somewhat-evil pater made her a member ;) , but he's not
going
> to get me to run for tribune)
>
>
> > G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
> >
> > salvete, omnes.
> >
> > OK, I'm very confused now. Marinus and Drusus are getting
married
> by
> > Kaelus and going to Pisa where they'll be picked up by Hale-Bopp
> and
> > brought to the "other side" where the Boni live free and easy?
> >
> >
> > Can I bring my horse?
> >
> >
> > valete,
> >
> > Cato
>
>
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Salve, Consul.

Don't worry about the chicken --- Scaurus'll just sacrifice it
anyways.

vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@c...> wrote:
> John Dobbins wrote:
>
> > WE have just voted to admit some new members,
> >
> > Kim Jong-il
> > Osama Bin Laden
> > The San Diego Chicken.
>
> The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new
depth
> of depravity even for you!
>
> That's it! The wedding is OFF!
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Avete Omnes,

With the consent of my colleague, Censor Caeso Fabius, it is my honor to reissue the edict entitled, Application for Ordo Equester. Its URL is: http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/edicts/edict_ord_eq.html. Below is the Text of the Edict:

Application for Ordo Equester
Drafted by C. Marius Merullus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix,
Re-Authorized by Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix,
Acceptance into the Ordo Equester represents official endorsement of a business by the Res Publica of Nova Roma. Equestrians are entitled to free web space at the Nova Roma website to display products and/or services, general promotion of their products and/or services, and additional century points.

Return completed applications:

a.. electronically, to censors@...
b.. electronically, to the Censors office via Nova Roma's online web form, http://www.novaroma.org/contact.php
c.. by mail if before October 15, 2000 to Nova Roma, C/O Ryan Merullo, 50 Pound Road, Sutton, NH 03273-0552; if after October 15, 2000 ask a censor for the current address
1.. Roman name (in micronation of Nova Roma)


2.. Legal name (in macronation)


3.. Name of business (if any, i.e. corporate or dba trade name)


4.. City, state/province, country in which business will be primarily conducted


5.. Summary of nature of business










6.. Description of products and/or services offered (attach extra sheets if necessary), including if possible estimated pricing structure, and relevance, if any--
a.. to the culture of Rome between 753 BCE and 395 CE
b.. to Nova Roma










1.. Number of years in business


2.. Percent of sales on items in no. VI willing to contribute to Nova Roma treasury (minimum = 5% gross or 10% from profit margin)


3.. Are you willing to provide documentation, including but not limited to, copies of macronational tax reports/returns and account ledgers relevant to the subject business, upon request of the Senate, or a consul, censor, praetor or aedilis, of Nova Roma?






Petitio in Equestrem Ordinem



Ascitus in Equestrem Ordinem Rem Publicam Novam Romam comprobare negotium demonstrat Equites gratis spatium in novoromano situ interretiali artificiorum operularumve monstrandorum causa et adiumentum pro artificiis operulisve et punctus centuriatos accipiunt

Petitiones completae submittendae sunt

a.. Inscriptione electronica cursuali censors@...
b.. Aut si prius iduum Octobrium Novae Romae C/O Ryan Merullo, 50 Pound Road, Sutton, NH 03273-0552 Si postea censor poterit dicere quo mittere


1.. Nomen romanum id est in micronatione Nova Roma


2.. Nomen municipalis legis id est extra Novam Romam


3.. Apellatio negotii si talis est


4.. Vrbs et civitas et natio ubi negotium ante alios locos geretur


5.. Descriptio brevis negotii










6.. Descriptio artificiorum operularumve proferendorum cum pretiorum structura si possibile et coniunctionibus eorum
a.. cum romana re temporis urbis conditae usque ad CCCXCV annum ab urbe condita
b.. cum Nova Roma
c.. Licet uti plure paginarum










1.. Quot annos in negotio versaris


2.. Quam partem emptionum rerum in VI vis dare novoromano aerario ad minimum v per centum totius pretii aut x per centum fructus


3.. Volensne es post rogatum Senatui vel consulis vel censoris vel praetoris vel aedilis novoromani praebere tabulas in eo numero renuntiationes vectigales et rationes



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Master Publius Albucius;

My most sincere thanks for your very kind words regarding "Eagle." This
is the first year that "Eagle" has been "on-line" (since last January),
and before that it was a subscription to a hard copy. The Senate has
now closed all hard-copy subscriptions, and so only the on-lne version
of the "Eagle" is currently available.

The "Eagle" is an NR Newsletter and anyone can post to it, if you have
somethig that you wish to say, an article to share, or a poem perhaps.

Again you have my thanks for your very kind remarks, and I hope that you
will enjoy the "Eagle" for the rest of the year.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius-Tiberius Audens


Wishing you all the best, with Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

My oath as scribe to Censor L. Cornelius Sulla Felix.
-- GMA
---
I, (David Oliver Kling, Jr.) Gaius Modius Athanasius, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, (David Oliver Kling, Jr.) Gaius Modius
Athanasius, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, (David Oliver Kling, Jr.) Gaius Modius Athanasius, swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to
act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, (David Oliver Kling, Jr.) Gaius Modius Athanasius, swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, (David Oliver Kling, Jr.) Gaius Modius Athanasius, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scribe to the best of
my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the
position of scribe and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
responsibilities attendant thereto.


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Bill Gawne <gawne@...> wrote: John Dobbins wrote:

> WE have just voted to admit some new members,
>
> Kim Jong-il
> Osama Bin Laden
> The San Diego Chicken.

The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new depth
of depravity even for you!

That's it! The wedding is OFF!

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Ah, nuts! Now, what am I going to tell Godzilla? And after I spent all that money on a new toga! ( Not flame-colored, I promise. )

Maxima


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> John Dobbins wrote:
>
> > WE have just voted to admit some new members,
> >
> > Kim Jong-il
> > Osama Bin Laden
> > The San Diego Chicken.
>
> The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new

depth

> of depravity even for you!
>
> That's it! The wedding is OFF!
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

gaiusequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
Salve, Consul.

Don't worry about the chicken --- Scaurus'll just sacrifice it
anyways.

vale,

Cato


Oh! So, does that mean the wedding is back on???

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What about Rodan, Mothra, and don't forget What his name(the Flying Turtle).

GnCL

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Maxima
<violetphearsen@...> wrote:

> Bill Gawne <gawne@...> wrote: John Dobbins wrote:
>
> > WE have just voted to admit some new members,
> >
> > Kim Jong-il
> > Osama Bin Laden
> > The San Diego Chicken.
>
> The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new depth
> of depravity even for you!
>
> That's it! The wedding is OFF!
>
> --
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
>
> Ah, nuts! Now, what am I going to tell Godzilla? And after I spent all that money on a new toga! ( Not flame-colored, I promise. )
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Dobbins
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:09 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Offered services


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
<iguard@g...> wrote:
> Salve,
> I was thinking about the ULC this morning when I saw the first e-mail.
> Since the ULC doesn't
> care what your path or religion is and ordination is free maybe all of
> the Pontiff's and Priest's
> ought get ordained.
>
> GnCL

There are two problems with that. The first is if all the Priests are
ordained by another church it will make it harder to gain our own
recognition. The second is the ULC has a very bad reputation with the
IRS and any association with them could cause problems with gaining
IRS tax exempt status.

Drusus



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Salve,

Gamera (a.k.a. the Flying Turtle).

We shouldn't neglect Ghidorah either!

Vale,

C. Minucius Hadiranus

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus wrote:

>What about Rodan, Mothra, and don't forget What his name(the Flying Turtle).
>
>GnCL
>
>

Gamera. But he's one of the good guys, and is obviously going to fight
against you.

-FVG

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus wrote:

> What about Rodan, Mothra, and don't forget What his name(the Flying
> Turtle).
>
> GnCL
>
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Maxima
> <violetphearsen@...> wrote:
> > Bill Gawne <gawne@...> wrote: John Dobbins wrote:
> >
> > > WE have just voted to admit some new members,
> > >
> > > Kim Jong-il
> > > Osama Bin Laden
> > > The San Diego Chicken.
> >
> > The first two I can understand, but the Chicken?!? This is a new depth
> > of depravity even for you!
> >
> > That's it! The wedding is OFF!
> >
> > --
> > Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> >
> > Ah, nuts! Now, what am I going to tell Godzilla? And after I spent
> all that money on a new toga! ( Not flame-colored, I promise. )
> >
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Are there any Rogators online now? If you are I would like to ask you some questions off list. Please contact me at spqr753@...

Vale

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The Chicken will be serving up turtle soup at the annual Boni Bar-B-que.

LSD

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Flavius Vedius Germanicus
<germanicus@g...> wrote:

> Gamera. But he's one of the good guys, and is obviously going to fight
> against you.
>
> -FVG
>
> Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus wrote:
>
> > What about Rodan, Mothra, and don't forget What his name(the Flying
> > Turtle).
> >
> > GnCL

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:

> Salve Palladi:

Hi Maior,

> I'm not paranoid at all just mystified; which you can entirely
>clear up by making the Boni list public - see no problem.

What are you talking about? You knew when you joined the Boni that it
is up to each individual to make himself (or herself) public. Don't
take this too far, you've done well enough.

later,


Palladius

Q. Caecilius Metellus Postumianus Quiritibus Peregrinisque salutem dicit

Salvete,

As of now, all the voting results for the Consulship of Cn. Equitius and Cn. Salix are properly posted to the Tabularium. They have been done in the tabular format, which I hope makes the results a little clearer for the reader. Any and all comments would be appreciated, privately (metellus AT alexandria DOT cc). More of your sestertii at work.

Valete,

Quintus Caecilius Metellus
Former Scriba Curatoris

Salve,

I need the help of a Senator, or rather, someone familiar with the
incorportated status and extentions of its legality. My questions are
both general and specific in nature (i.e. how to draft and word
documents to ensure that they are in accordance with macro-national
law via the corporation, etc). I would prefer instantaneous
communication in order to ensure accuracy of details.

I can be reached on instant messenger at:

AIM: xkaelusx
Yahoo! (always on): xkaelusx@...
The above is also my e-mail address.

Valete,
Lucius Modius Kaelus Iulianus

SAlve Aurelianus,

> AURELIANUS: Nova Roma is not "...an archaeological and historical
> organization about the Ancient Rome..." and the rest of this

quote

> didn't make very much sense to me. Tribune, I suggest you read

the

> Constitution of Nova Roma and the Declaration of Roman Paganism to
> get a better clue as to what Nova Roma was founded for and about.

Aurelianus, I know very well the Costitution as Tribune, maybe
better than you. However the Costitution was written many years ago
and Nr is changed during this long time.
And the Costitution doesn't say ever what NR is or is becoming. The
Costitution doesn't say us that NR should be involved in live and
real archeological project but now NR is engaged in the Magna Mater
Project, the most important job we have and a project created by no
priests or members of the religious part of this organization.

What I mean is that NR is not ONLY a religious organization, it's
more and more and we all must to understand it. When we'll
unserstand all our aspects, maybe this little club of web-surfers
will become a great world organization for Ancient Rome.

> AURELIANUS: Roman culture is not exclusively tied up in historical
> sites, citizen, and Nova Roma is about a whole lot more than

history

> or archaeology.

Cives, yes, I agree but NR is not only religious rites and decreta
about blasphemy.
NR is history, culture and archeology too. A very large group of
people here is interesting to this fields and is working seriously
about their growth because we're seeing several good solutions for
our organization.

You are creating another question... what is "roman culture" for you?
Maybe "roman culture" is the pratictionism of the Religio Romana?
And why the number of messages about the Religio here in this list
are so few? Maybe we all are not following the Costitution and teh
roman culture? Maybe we're wrong talk about other topical
discussions or off-topics like the marriage between Marinus and
Drusus?

> AURELIANUS: What is "too European?" I have never noted that the
> Europeans are that bound up together in much beyond an economic
> union. Most Americans are more than willing to contribute to the
> preservation of historic sites in Europe that are related to

Rome.

Yes? ok, I'll send a large list of roman sites here in Italy which
need to be preserved. COuld you rause money and people able to work
on them?

> Ultimately, there will likely be some regional meeting places in

both

> North America and Europe but in the chances are that the 108 acres
> for the worldwide administration of Nova Roma will be in North
> America. How much would 108 acres of land (near major roads and
> cities with airports that also has reasonably affordable building
> costs) cost near Rome, Milan, Brussels, London, York, Brussels, or
> Paris?

108 acres of land in the desert without the basilar services are not
comparable with each other land in the world.Your statement didn't
make very much sense to me and is quite unlogical.

> AURELIANUS; That is just plain horse excrement.

What you mean? Are you saying that the original places are "horse
excrements"?
I don't think you're saying it, however are you sure that my
statement is so stupid? I would invite you in my land and show you
the best roman ruins and look your face and your emotions when you
are in front of them!

> Maybe a current day
> person living in Rome can have "...real roman emotions..." and you

do

> not need to be standing on the Via Appia to "... restore the

ancient

> virtues." If you cannot carry that with you, then being next to

the

> Circus Maximus is not going to do it for you. Your remarks are

pure

> hyperbole.

No, your interpratation is quite unlogical and hyperbolic!!!
As I said in a past message, roman emotions and virtutes don't
depend by the geography or the race or the residency or by the
number of rites you have done or by the number of ruins are close to
you or by the religious titles ...
Don't put in my mouth words which I never said! I invite you,
citizen, to read all my messages with more attenction.

> AURELIANUS: No one builds in deserts if it can be avoided.

Well, are you saying that we will have no a "nova roman cathedral in
the desert of Western USA"?

The

> current situation in Lepcis Magnus is caused by the loss of
> irrigation, agriculture, and climatic changes. It did not look

that

> way in Septimus Severus' day. Canada does have some possibilities

as

> does Brazil. Australia is even less central than Thule.

I'll add the North Africa or the cheap lands in the Eastern europe
or some tropical island.... ;-)

> Also, you
> should really look into the political and religious stability and
> tolerance of the areas you are mentioning. At present, Hellenic
> pagan groups are under vicious attack and intoleration by the
> Orthodox Church in Greece; where paganism has no official standing
> and religious toleration is not part of their constitutional
> documents.

If we must to see thsi kind of requirements, we should cancel the
candidacies of USA, Brasil, Italy, etc. Maybe the Australia would be
the best candidate...

> AURELIANUS: Actually, Caesare, you need to see the Nashville
> Parthenon with the40' tall statue of Athene Parthenos in Her

golden

> and painted glory to get the full effect of just how much I feel
> there. Or the giant statue of Vulcan sitting atop a hill in
> Birmingham, Alabama. Could a modern day Hellene or Roman worship

in

> the ancient ruins in Rome or Athens? Could a fire be lit to Vesta

in

> the remnants of Her temple without a dozen alarms going off? I

know

> that I can worship Dii Immortales in the middle of my city without
> having to worry about an Orthodox Metropolitan screaming at me on

a

> bull horn that I will burn in the Fiery Places of Hell.

Well, citizen, if you'ld invite me, I would very happy to visit this
wonderful replica of the greek Parthenos.

Vale
FAC