Is that into or out of the sedation ward?

Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
<gawne@c...> wrote:

> Salve Gai Popilli,
>
> gaiuspopilliuslaenas wrote:
>
> > Sometimes, I think Caesar amice, one must be nuts to run for

office ;-),

>
> You know I'm going to require all of the candidates to form a Conga

Line

> with me before I announce the election results, don't you?
>
> (OK, not really...)
>
> -- Marinus

Salve -

On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:15 PM, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:

> What we polytheists are scared of is NR becoming a Christian majority,

No, Q.Fabius, it's what *you* and your buddies are scared of.
Q.Fabius, I have been a practicing Polytheist for over thirty years
now. Don't you *dare* presume to speak for all of the Polytheists of
NR!
I , and many others, are not in the least *scared* of our Christian
Citizens. They know this is *Rome*, not Byzantium, and that it would
be a damned silly Rome at that if Polytheism were proscribed or limited
in any way.

Vale
- Troianus

Salve Gnae Iuli,

Into. Definitely into.

-- Marinus

Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:

> Is that into or out of the sedation ward?
>
> Caesar
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> <gawne@c...> wrote:
>
>>Salve Gai Popilli,
>>
>>gaiuspopilliuslaenas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sometimes, I think Caesar amice, one must be nuts to run for
>
> office ;-),
>
>>You know I'm going to require all of the candidates to form a Conga
>
> Line
>
>>with me before I announce the election results, don't you?
>>
>>(OK, not really...)
>>
>>-- Marinus

Salve Marinus -

On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus wrote:

> You know I'm going to require all of the candidates to form a Conga
> Line
> with me before I announce the election results, don't you?
>
How does one do an online Conga line? Link up in a Chatroom?

- Troianus

HAHAHA....ROFL

Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a Man
in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd say,
together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.

Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
accepting her onto their slate ;)

Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
<hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:

> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>
> > I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and July

4

> > here we come :)
>
> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed

any of

> her openings....
>
> Vale
> - Troianus

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You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could easily
make *more* noise.

- Troianus

On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:

>
> HAHAHA....ROFL
>
> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a Man
> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd say,
> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
>
> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
> accepting her onto their slate ;)
>
> Caesar
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>
>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and July
> 4
>>> here we come :)
>>
>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
> any of
>> her openings....
>>
>> Vale
>> - Troianus
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Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)

Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
<hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:

> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could

easily

> make *more* noise.
>
> - Troianus
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>
> >
> > HAHAHA....ROFL
> >
> > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
> > 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
> > sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a

Man

> > in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd

say,

> > together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
> >
> > Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
> > accepting her onto their slate ;)
> >
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius

Troianus

> > <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
> >> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
> >> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and

July

> > 4
> >>> here we come :)
> >>
> >> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
> > any of
> >> her openings....
> >>
> >> Vale
> >> - Troianus
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sound proof it :), oh the mittens.....well we can squip those....special gloves that constrain the hand in a fist with not sharp corners so she can't get the keys on the keyboard...a nice perfect round ball...hey its that time a year lets get to work :)

Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)

Caesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
<hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:

> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could

easily

> make *more* noise.
>
> - Troianus
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>
> >
> > HAHAHA....ROFL
> >
> > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
> > 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
> > sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a

Man

> > in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd

say,

> > together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
> >
> > Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
> > accepting her onto their slate ;)
> >
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius

Troianus

> > <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
> >> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
> >> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and

July

> > 4
> >>> here we come :)
> >>
> >> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
> > any of
> >> her openings....
> >>
> >> Vale
> >> - Troianus
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Ah, that's assuming you could even get her into the bit of ironmongery
in the first place! Doubtful, that is - she's feisty! Best to check
your medical coverage before even planning the attempt.

Vale
- Troianus

On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:

>
>
> Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
> rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)
>
> Caesar
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could
> easily
>> make *more* noise.
>>
>> - Troianus
>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> HAHAHA....ROFL
>>>
>>> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
>>> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
>>> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a
> Man
>>> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd
> say,
>>> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
>>>
>>> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
>>> accepting her onto their slate ;)
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>>
>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
> Troianus
>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and
> July
>>> 4
>>>>> here we come :)
>>>>
>>>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
>>> any of
>>>> her openings....
>>>>
>>>> Vale
>>>> - Troianus
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I was gonna get all the shots first...I think she'd get a bit rabid upon the approach...hehe...who's got the tranquilizer darts :)

Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus <hermeticagnosis@...> wrote:Ah, that's assuming you could even get her into the bit of ironmongery
in the first place! Doubtful, that is - she's feisty! Best to check
your medical coverage before even planning the attempt.

Vale
- Troianus

On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:

>
>
> Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
> rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)
>
> Caesar
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could
> easily
>> make *more* noise.
>>
>> - Troianus
>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> HAHAHA....ROFL
>>>
>>> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
>>> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
>>> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a
> Man
>>> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd
> say,
>>> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
>>>
>>> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
>>> accepting her onto their slate ;)
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>>
>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
> Troianus
>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and
> July
>>> 4
>>>>> here we come :)
>>>>
>>>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
>>> any of
>>>> her openings....
>>>>
>>>> Vale
>>>> - Troianus
>>>
>>>
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Salvete omnes;
I think all these masculine viri below need to devote themselves to
Magna Mater as her Eunuch priests!

Gnaeus Iulius, Cornelius, Troinus...step forward!!!

Strong women vote for Marca Arminia Maior Fabiana!
candidate for Tribune of the Plebs

VOTE LIBRA/MODERATI; DEFEAT THE BONI!

Fr. Apulus Caesar & Pomepia Minucia Tiberia Strabo
for Consules!!

M. Iulius Perusianus & L.Arminius Faustus for Praetors!!
character, scholarship, proven doers
LIBERAL!!!!!




- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
<hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:

> Ah, that's assuming you could even get her into the bit of

ironmongery

> in the first place! Doubtful, that is - she's feisty! Best to

check

> your medical coverage before even planning the attempt.
>
> Vale
> - Troianus
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
> > rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)
> >
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius

Troianus

> > <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
> >> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could
> > easily
> >> make *more* noise.
> >>
> >> - Troianus
> >> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> HAHAHA....ROFL
> >>>
> >>> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
> >>> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
> >>> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a
> > Man
> >>> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd
> > say,
> >>> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
> >>>
> >>> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
> >>> accepting her onto their slate ;)
> >>>
> >>> Caesar
> >>>
> >>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
> > Troianus
> >>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
> >>>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
> >>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus

wrote:

> >>>>
> >>>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and
> > July
> >>> 4
> >>>>> here we come :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch

closed

> >>> any of
> >>>> her openings....
> >>>>
> >>>> Vale
> >>>> - Troianus
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G. Equitius Cato Consules et Senatores S.P.D.

Salvete, illustrii virii.

I must absolutely echo the sentiments expressed by C. Moravius
Laureatus Amoricus regarding L. Modius Kaelus. We have been offered
the services of an intelligent, hard-working young citizen, and we
turn him away? Please, gentlemen, would you kindly explain the
rationale behind waiving the one age requirement yet retaining the
other? I mean no disrespect, gentlemen, but as this will have a
drastic impact on the res publica, I do think it is reasonable to ask
that you explain the reasons behind this decision.

Valete bene,

Cato

-- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, CornMoraviusL@a... wrote:

> Salvete Consules et Senatores,
>
> In a message dated 21/12/04 16:13:06 GMT Standard Time,
> lafaustus@y... writes:
>
>
> > III. The Senate grants Q. Caecilius Metellus Postumianus a waiver

of the

> > minimum age requirement to stand for Diribitor.
> >
> > (passed)
> >
> > IV. The Senate grants L. Modius Kaelus a waiver of the minimum

age

> > requirement to stand for Magister Aranearius (webmaster).
> >
> > (failed)
> >
> >
>
> I am confused. Why exactly Kaelus was not granted the "priviledge"

to work

> for the Republic?
> There used to be comments by senatores on the reasons why one voted

for or

> against a proposal. This time around only dry results...
>
> It is probably too late to put a case forward but let me tell you

something :

> Kaelus has been working only for a few weeks in the censorial

cohors but it

> was long enough for me to find him a very astute and dedicated

person who not

> only is interested in Roma Antiqua but has also a real desire to

serve Nova

> Roma.
>
> I cannot come to terms that we could waive age requirements for one

person

> yet impose them on another to stand for office.
>
> Tell me senatores, who among you would like the job of curator

Aranearius?

> Nobody? Then let Kaelus stand and let him put his energy to good

use!

> And if there is any good reason why this happened, please let us

all know,

> because frankly, just now, I am pretty disgusted that we should

turn down people

> who want to work!!!
>
> Optime Vale
>
> C. Moravius Laureatus Armoricus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ave Troi,

Please try the link below and choose either version, word or pdf...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Britannia-Provincia/files/INTER%20ALIA/

Vale

Laureatus


In a message dated 20/12/04 05:25:00 GMT Standard Time,
hermeticagnosis@... writes:

> Salve Laureatus -
>
> I'm getting a "Document Not Found" page for the link you have posted,
> below.
>
> Vale
> - Troianus
>

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See guys? Feisty!
No, I think you'd be well advised to steer clear of her. Do you really
want to risk your nads on the basis of some presumed efficacy of a
tranquilizer dart? She'd probably have taken the counteragent ahead of
time, and have the scalpel concealed - she *knows* these sorts of
things!

- Troi.

On Dec 21, 2004, at 4:05 PM, Maior wrote:

>
>
> Salvete omnes;
> I think all these masculine viri below need to devote themselves to
> Magna Mater as her Eunuch priests!
>
> Gnaeus Iulius, Cornelius, Troinus...step forward!!!
>
> Strong women vote for Marca Arminia Maior Fabiana!
> candidate for Tribune of the Plebs
>
> VOTE LIBRA/MODERATI; DEFEAT THE BONI!
>
> Fr. Apulus Caesar & Pomepia Minucia Tiberia Strabo
> for Consules!!
>
> M. Iulius Perusianus & L.Arminius Faustus for Praetors!!
> character, scholarship, proven doers
> LIBERAL!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> - In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>> Ah, that's assuming you could even get her into the bit of
> ironmongery
>> in the first place! Doubtful, that is - she's feisty! Best to
> check
>> your medical coverage before even planning the attempt.
>>
>> Vale
>> - Troianus
>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
>>> rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>>
>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
> Troianus
>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could
>>> easily
>>>> make *more* noise.
>>>>
>>>> - Troianus
>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HAHAHA....ROFL
>>>>>
>>>>> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
>>>>> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
>>>>> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a
>>> Man
>>>>> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd
>>> say,
>>>>> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
>>>>> accepting her onto their slate ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Caesar
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
>>> Troianus
>>>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>>>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and
>>> July
>>>>> 4
>>>>>>> here we come :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch
> closed
>>>>> any of
>>>>>> her openings....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vale
>>>>>> - Troianus
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QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:

> The Honored Consul of last year, Gnaeus Equitus Marinus.
> Who is running un opposed.

Whose fault is that?

[...]

> If Strabo was truely
> Roman, she would restart the cursus as Quaestor and rework herself up.

Name one Roman who did that.

> The rest of Minucius choices are friends of his. So you can infer from that
> what you want.

I'd rather by far be considered a friend of Marcus Minucius Audens.
He's a decent and good man who has done more for Nova Roma than anyone
currently running for office, including me.

> People of Nova Roma! Don't be sheep. Don't assume because someone tells you
> they are great, they are.

We learned that lesson about you a long time ago Fabius. But thanks for
reminding the Quirites.

> You can be dedicated to Nova Roma for the wrong reasons, and still be
> dedicated. It means nothing.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Vale,

-- Marinus

Isn't she so generous...I'm perfectly comfortable with my masculinity thank you very much...But Maior I am a non-practitioner...however could I serve? Yes Troianus I see...about what I expected I was wondering when she was gonna jump in

PS: I am not about to make any ummm.....contributions.... :)

Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus <hermeticagnosis@...> wrote:
See guys? Feisty!
No, I think you'd be well advised to steer clear of her. Do you really
want to risk your nads on the basis of some presumed efficacy of a
tranquilizer dart? She'd probably have taken the counteragent ahead of
time, and have the scalpel concealed - she *knows* these sorts of
things!

- Troi.

On Dec 21, 2004, at 4:05 PM, Maior wrote:

>
>
> Salvete omnes;
> I think all these masculine viri below need to devote themselves to
> Magna Mater as her Eunuch priests!
>
> Gnaeus Iulius, Cornelius, Troinus...step forward!!!
>
> Strong women vote for Marca Arminia Maior Fabiana!
> candidate for Tribune of the Plebs
>
> VOTE LIBRA/MODERATI; DEFEAT THE BONI!
>
> Fr. Apulus Caesar & Pomepia Minucia Tiberia Strabo
> for Consules!!
>
> M. Iulius Perusianus & L.Arminius Faustus for Praetors!!
> character, scholarship, proven doers
> LIBERAL!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> - In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>> Ah, that's assuming you could even get her into the bit of
> ironmongery
>> in the first place! Doubtful, that is - she's feisty! Best to
> check
>> your medical coverage before even planning the attempt.
>>
>> Vale
>> - Troianus
>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
>>> rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)
>>>
>>> Caesar
>>>
>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
> Troianus
>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could
>>> easily
>>>> make *more* noise.
>>>>
>>>> - Troianus
>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HAHAHA....ROFL
>>>>>
>>>>> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
>>>>> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
>>>>> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a
>>> Man
>>>>> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd
>>> say,
>>>>> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
>>>>> accepting her onto their slate ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Caesar
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
>>> Troianus
>>>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>>>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and
>>> July
>>>>> 4
>>>>>>> here we come :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch
> closed
>>>>> any of
>>>>>> her openings....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vale
>>>>>> - Troianus
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Salve Quinte Fabi, et salvete omnes,

QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:

> You cannot have a factio that has divergent viewpoints, and expect it to
> survive.

First of all, the Libra are not a factio, we're an alliance. Secondly,
I don't expect the Alliance to last. We've come together this year to
promote a shared view of Nova Roma. In future years I expect we'll
drift apart as our own different interests draw us one way and the
other. I hope we'll all remain friends, and I expect we'll vote
together more often than we divide, but as diverse as we are this is
bound to be an ephemeral thing.

There are many people in Nova Roma I consider my political allies who
are not members of the Libra Alliance. I didn't abandon them when I
decided to join the Libra. I remain their allies too, and I would not
stand for somebody claiming leadership in the Libra telling me to stand
against any such people.

Vale,

-- Marinus

In a message dated 12/21/04 12:29:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ksterne@... writes:

> Unfortunately, QFM and Drusus have been so loud so often
> that many people *do* think of being abusive as being the Boni Way.
> Is this how you want to be seen?

Wow that's amusing coming from a blowhard like you.

I was just sitting back, watching the election writing notes for my book
seeing what happens when you let left-wingers have any opposition and guess what?
You have to attack us anyway? What's up with that, guys? That seems that
your factio cannot function unless it has enemy. So if the voters reject you,
does that mean that the people will become your enemy? That should be an
interesting outcome.

Once again I try to stay out, and I'm sucked back in!!!

The Boni were an outgrowth of the Sullan faction who wanted to make Nova Roma
more like old Rome of the Republican Period. Before the dynasists. The
shrill tone of the message was more about exasperation. Least that was the way I
saw it.

This of course gives rise to many a counter diction. Mostly revolving
around the internet.
The internet is the technology that allows NR to be possible. I simply see
it as no different as the quill, scroll, post horse and Trireme of
communication. Except for internet stalking, the internet should stay in the back ground.

NR has profited by technocrats who have joined, but has suffered when they
say "WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER!"
Republican Rome was not perfect. Gods not by a long shot. But to streamline
the clumsy operation into an efficient one misses the point here. We want
the clumsy operation.
Why else are we here?

Q. Fabius Maximus




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Salve Tiberi Galeri,

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus wrote:

> I have been called names on the main list by no other
> that a Consul of Nova Roma. ( an a friend of mine no less)

The friendship holds, and you'll notice I still trust you to be my
Legate. But I'm what Sam Rayburn called an honest politician. I'll
drink your whisky, eat your food, stay out late reminiscing about old
times with you, and still vote against your idea the next day if I think
your idea is wrong. I expect the same of you.

Now start practicing the Conga.

Vale,

-- Marinus

Salve - GJC Cornelianus

On Dec 21, 2004, at 4:35 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
> Isn't she so generous...I'm perfectly comfortable with my masculinity
> thank you very much...

Perhaps it would be a good idea then *not* to plot to put her into an
iron box! ;-) Then you can be assured of retaining all of your various
and sundry parts.

> But Maior I am a non-practitioner...however could I serve?

Very generous of you to ask, but be careful: This could be construed as
volunteering to become a Eunuch! I suppose you could be a cupbearer or
something. I mean, you just have to stand there holding a cup - how
much belief could that require?

> Yes Troianus I see...about what I expected I was wondering when she
> was gonna jump in
>
Now, now, you can hardly expect to be talking about the Lady so much
and have her *not* interject, now can you?
I mean, how long would you or I sit on the sidelines while someone
discussed putting either of us into an iron box? I know I would have
jumped in long ago - if someone's designing an iron box for me, I'm
going to insist it have facilities and climate control among other
things.....

> PS: I am not about to make any ummm.....contributions.... :)

Then we'd best drop this whole line of inquiry, lest the
"contributions" become deemed not voluntary...

Besides, I have some work that needs doing.
Been fun though!

Vale et valete
- Troianus, not a Eunuch and hoping to
remain that way...
>
> Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus <hermeticagnosis@...>
> wrote:
> See guys? Feisty!
> No, I think you'd be well advised to steer clear of her. Do you really
> want to risk your nads on the basis of some presumed efficacy of a
> tranquilizer dart? She'd probably have taken the counteragent ahead of
> time, and have the scalpel concealed - she *knows* these sorts of
> things!
>
> - Troi.
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 4:05 PM, Maior wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Salvete omnes;
>> I think all these masculine viri below need to devote themselves to
>> Magna Mater as her Eunuch priests!
>>
>> Gnaeus Iulius, Cornelius, Troinus...step forward!!!
>>
>> Strong women vote for Marca Arminia Maior Fabiana!
>> candidate for Tribune of the Plebs
>>
>> VOTE LIBRA/MODERATI; DEFEAT THE BONI!
>>
>> Fr. Apulus Caesar & Pomepia Minucia Tiberia Strabo
>> for Consules!!
>>
>> M. Iulius Perusianus & L.Arminius Faustus for Praetors!!
>> character, scholarship, proven doers
>> LIBERAL!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>> Ah, that's assuming you could even get her into the bit of
>> ironmongery
>>> in the first place! Doubtful, that is - she's feisty! Best to
>> check
>>> your medical coverage before even planning the attempt.
>>>
>>> Vale
>>> - Troianus
>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well there may be some muffled sueaks through the lagging, but the
>>>> rest could be dealt out with some axle grease :)
>>>>
>>>> Caesar
>>>>
>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
>> Troianus
>>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>>> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could
>>>> easily
>>>>> make *more* noise.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Troianus
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HAHAHA....ROFL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
>>>>>> 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
>>>>>> sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a
>>>> Man
>>>>>> in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd
>>>> say,
>>>>>> together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
>>>>>> accepting her onto their slate ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Caesar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius
>>>> Troianus
>>>>>> <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
>>>>>>> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and
>>>> July
>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>> here we come :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch
>> closed
>>>>>> any of
>>>>>>> her openings....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vale
>>>>>>> - Troianus
>>>>>>
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In a message dated 12/21/04 1:43:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gawne@... writes:

> First of all, the Libra are not a factio, we're an alliance.

You say tamato I say tomato, its the people who will decide.

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Salve Troianus,

<Declare your independence, not just for this campaign (which is how <it is being seen), but for real, and denounce such a dispicable <outlook for the vile and unproductive thing that it is.

Personally I am seeing both sides of these endless arguments as being vile and unproductive.

Vale,

Diana


Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus <hermeticagnosis@...> wrote:
Salvete

On Dec 21, 2004, at 2:03 PM, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:

> At least they told it to you straight until it became against the law
> to so..

Since the only speech that is against the law is defamatory and/or
obscene, this appears to be an admission that "the Boni" approach is
much as Maior has been making it out to be, at least in Q.Fabius'
opinion.

Metellus, Laenas and you others, take note, and formally renounce any
Boni affilliation in order to distance yourself from such a view.
"Guilt by association" is wrong, but people have a tendency to do it
anyway, and you really don't want to be associated with such an
outlook.

Note also, Laenas et al, that telling "it straight" in an illegal way
is what Q.Fabius thinks of as the Boni Way. He apparently doesn't
consider your reasoned approach, using fact and argument, to be "Boni"
in some way. Unfortunately, QFM and Drusus have been so loud so often
that many people *do* think of being abusive as being the Boni Way. Is
this how you want to be seen?


Valete
- S E M Troianus


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Salvete

>
> gawne@... writes:
>> First of all, the Libra are not a factio, we're an alliance.

On Dec 21, 2004, at 5:01 PM, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
> You say tamato I say tomato, its the people who will decide.

The people will decide if it's an alliance or a factio?
Is this an election or a vocabulary quiz, and for that matter since
when were definitions voted on anyway?
It either fits the definition or it doesn't.

Vale
- Troianus
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---Salve Marinus Consul:

Ahh, well........I hate to say this, and maybe I need to get a life,
but.....well, uhh.....

I don't know how to do the Conga...

Sorry about that...

Pompeia




In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@c...>
wrote:

> Salve Tiberi Galeri,
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus wrote:
>
> > I have been called names on the main list by no other
> > that a Consul of Nova Roma. ( an a friend of mine no less)
>
> The friendship holds, and you'll notice I still trust you to be my
> Legate. But I'm what Sam Rayburn called an honest politician.

I'll

> drink your whisky, eat your food, stay out late reminiscing about

old

> times with you, and still vote against your idea the next day if I

think

> your idea is wrong. I expect the same of you.
>
> Now start practicing the Conga.
>
> Vale,
>
> -- Marinus

Salva Diana et salvete omnes -

Yes Diana, but I notice you still haven't renounced your Boni
membership.
If that organization were truly "defunct" then it would cost you
nothing to do so - after all, what possible harm could there be in
"quitting" a group that no longer exists?
Yet those who protest the loudest that the Boni are "defunct" all
refuse to drop their claim, their identity, as members. Now, why
cling to a membership if there's no longer a group to be a member of?
The answer is obvious: The Boni remain. Not just the people, but the
group, as a group. Perhaps quiescent on their list, or perhaps moved
to another list, but still a group and a political group at that.
Hence the refusal to give up identifying themselves as Boni.
When known members *all* are saying "Yes, I'm a Bonus but the Boni
don't exist as a group...." - that is, when a *group* of people are all
identifying as members yet claiming there is no group - can it really
be believed?

Valete
- S E M Troianus
Moderati Candidate for Quaestor

On Dec 21, 2004, at 5:02 PM, Diana Aventina wrote:

>
> Salve Troianus,
>
> <Declare your independence, not just for this campaign (which is how
> <it is being seen), but for real, and denounce such a dispicable
> <outlook for the vile and unproductive thing that it is.
>
> Personally I am seeing both sides of these endless arguments as being
> vile and unproductive.
>
> Vale,
>
> Diana
>
>
> Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus <hermeticagnosis@...>
> wrote:
> Salvete
>
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 2:03 PM, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
>
>> At least they told it to you straight until it became against the law
>> to so..
>
> Since the only speech that is against the law is defamatory and/or
> obscene, this appears to be an admission that "the Boni" approach is
> much as Maior has been making it out to be, at least in Q.Fabius'
> opinion.
>
> Metellus, Laenas and you others, take note, and formally renounce any
> Boni affilliation in order to distance yourself from such a view.
> "Guilt by association" is wrong, but people have a tendency to do it
> anyway, and you really don't want to be associated with such an
> outlook.
>
> Note also, Laenas et al, that telling "it straight" in an illegal way
> is what Q.Fabius thinks of as the Boni Way. He apparently doesn't
> consider your reasoned approach, using fact and argument, to be "Boni"
> in some way. Unfortunately, QFM and Drusus have been so loud so often
> that many people *do* think of being abusive as being the Boni Way. Is
> this how you want to be seen?
>
>
> Valete
> - S E M Troianus
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In a message dated 12/21/04 2:10:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dianaaventina@... writes:

> Note also, Laenas et al, that telling "it straight" in an illegal way
> is what Q.Fabius thinks of as the Boni Way. He apparently doesn't
> consider your reasoned approach, using fact and argument, to be "Boni"
> in some way. Unfortunately, QFM and Drusus have been so loud so often
> that many people *do* think of being abusive as being the Boni Way. Is
> this how you want to be seen?
>

You know, we only called people names who deserved it. narrow minded people
who didn't like the way nova roma was when they joined. people who didn't
bother with reading the constitution or wanted to interpret it the way they
wanted.

last time I looked freedom speech meant i could call you exactly what i
thought of you. but you exaggerate. there is no freedom of speech here. there is
your freedom of speech, your narrow interpretation of the same.

if i call you an embezzler in public that would be actionable if it wasn't
true. it doesn't matter if it was and the people already knew it. if i call
you an embezzler in private, you can do nothing , except refuse to accept my
e-mails.
The damage comes from public perception so if you are spreading mis and half
truths about the boni are you not guilty of the same? should i not sue you
for misrepresenting my organization to the people? except i won't. i'm sure
the people see through your flimsy subterfuge, and your fear, otherwise why
are you saying such things?
the boni has always been pretty straight forward in what was wanted in NR and
we have never been silent about it.

Fabius


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quite agreed Troianus...it has been fun...cup bearer huhmph....my poor eyes....how dare you subject me to such a sight :)

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---Salvete!

Now this brings me down memory lane...with this description of
a 'new' look for Maior and all the metal trappings, I'm reminded of
an old Ozzie/Sabbath tune, called Iron Man...but let's improvise,
shall we?

I.... AMMMMM.... IROOONNNN.... TRIBUNNNNEE !!!
(sounds of electric guitar chords)

*or*

if we wanted to be gender friendly...

I.....AMMMMM....IRONNNN....TRIBUNNNAAAAAA!!!
(sounds of electric guitar chords)

Yeah, you boys better be careful, ya hear?
Think Hortensia and Agrippina the Elder combined...

And, if you think you are going to render biological donations to
the Magna Mater Fund and appear on the Benefactor's list, you've
obviously missed a staff meeting or two......nice *historic* try
though fellas :), really.

<g> Po





In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
<hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:

> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could

easily

> make *more* noise.
>
> - Troianus
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>
> >
> > HAHAHA....ROFL
> >
> > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
> > 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
> > sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a

Man

> > in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd

say,

> > together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
> >
> > Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
> > accepting her onto their slate ;)
> >
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius

Troianus

> > <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
> >> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
> >> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus

wrote:

> >>
> >>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and

July

> > 4
> >>> here we come :)
> >>
> >> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
> > any of
> >> her openings....
> >>
> >> Vale
> >> - Troianus
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good tune...I always preferred The Wizard...

pompeia_minucia_tiberia <pompeia_minucia_tiberia@...> wrote:
---Salvete!

Now this brings me down memory lane...with this description of
a 'new' look for Maior and all the metal trappings, I'm reminded of
an old Ozzie/Sabbath tune, called Iron Man...but let's improvise,
shall we?

I.... AMMMMM.... IROOONNNN.... TRIBUNNNNEE !!!
(sounds of electric guitar chords)

*or*

if we wanted to be gender friendly...

I.....AMMMMM....IRONNNN....TRIBUNNNAAAAAA!!!
(sounds of electric guitar chords)

Yeah, you boys better be careful, ya hear?
Think Hortensia and Agrippina the Elder combined...

And, if you think you are going to render biological donations to
the Magna Mater Fund and appear on the Benefactor's list, you've
obviously missed a staff meeting or two......nice *historic* try
though fellas :), really.

<g> Po





In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus
<hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:

> You gents *do* realize that with that kind of hardware she could

easily

> make *more* noise.
>
> - Troianus
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus wrote:
>
> >
> > HAHAHA....ROFL
> >
> > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
> > 1/4" steel plate, a large bag of rivets, sound proof lagging, a
> > sledgehammer and an arc welder could produce the NR version of a

Man

> > in the Iron mask? An essential part of Maior's election kit I'd

say,

> > together with a pair of mittens to make typing difficult.
> >
> > Now if she wore all that, the Libra's may feel more comfortable
> > accepting her onto their slate ;)
> >
> > Caesar
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Servius Equitius Mercurius

Troianus

> > <hermeticagnosis@e...> wrote:
> >> Salve G.J. Caesar Cornelianus -
> >> On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:08 PM, Gn. Julius Caesar Cornelianus

wrote:

> >>
> >>> I'll have to patch up a few openings to trap that steam and

July

> > 4
> >>> here we come :)
> >>
> >> Somehow I seriously doubt Maior is going to let you patch closed
> > any of
> >> her openings....
> >>
> >> Vale
> >> - Troianus
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pompeia_minucia_tiberia wrote:

> I don't know how to do the Conga...

You and Galerius can practice together. If you're feeling especially
feisty you can teach him to Tango once you've got the Conga figured out.

-- Marinus
Museaus of Terpsichore

I was in a tango class and my partner said, with a fab accent:
I hammm Argentineeean......
heaven...:)
Marca Arminia
tango Po tango!!

>
> You and Galerius can practice together. If you're feeling

especially

> feisty you can teach him to Tango once you've got the Conga figured

out.

>
> -- Marinus
> Museaus of Terpsichore

OSD G. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes.

I can't dance, but Nichomachus can do a mean limbo.

Valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:
>
> I was in a tango class and my partner said, with a fab accent:
> I hammm Argentineeean......
> heaven...:)
> Marca Arminia
> tango Po tango!!
> >
> > You and Galerius can practice together. If you're feeling
> especially
> > feisty you can teach him to Tango once you've got the Conga
figured
> out.
> >
> > -- Marinus
> > Museaus of Terpsichore

gaiusequitiuscato wrote:

> I can't dance, but Nichomachus can do a mean limbo.

Good. He'll pick up the Conga in no time. We'll just strap you into a
saddlebag.

Io Saturnalia!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <>
gaiusequitiuscato wrote:

>
> > I can't dance, but Nichomachus can do a mean limbo.
>
> Good. He'll pick up the Conga in no time. We'll just strap you

into a

> saddlebag.

hey we can stuff Those Gnaei into the hind end as well;-)
Io Saturnalia
tango, baby tango, Maior

>
> Io Saturnalia!

G. Equitius Cato Q. Fabio Maximo S.P.D.

Salve, Quintus Maximus.

I'm confused here. You wrote:

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@a... wrote:

> You know, we only called people names who deserved it. narrow
minded people who didn't like the way nova roma was when they
joined. people who didn't bother with reading the constitution or
wanted to interpret it the way they wanted.
>
> last time I looked freedom speech meant i could call you exactly
what i thought of you. but you exaggerate. there is no freedom of
speech here. there is your freedom of speech, your narrow
interpretation of the same.



CATO: Now Quintus Maximus, you cannot have it both ways. Either
freedom of speech INCLUDES those who have different interpretations
of our Constitution, or it does not. If it does not, then it is not
truly freedom of speech, is it? It's merely being told to tow a
party line.

So if my interpretation differs from yours, and I say so, then
I "deserved" to be "called names"? I "deserved" to be attacked and
vilified because I offered a different opinion? And I am not worthy
of being a part of "your" Nova Roma? This is your idea of freedom
of speech?

Nova Roma does not belng to any one individual; she does not belong
to any one group of people; she belongs to ALL of us, the citizens.
She is not a private toy to be played with, a bauble that is useful
only when it is placed exactly where *you* want it on display. She
does not even belong to the Pater Patriae; she has her own life, and
her citizens are her blood and bones and sinews. All her citizens.

I am a Moderatus precisely because I will *not* be dictated to; I
stand under the laws and Constitution of Nova Roma as a free
citizen. You are welcome to your interpretation, and I am welcome
to mine.

You act as if Nova Roma is a golden casket filled with gems to which
you alone have the key. She *is* a golden casket filled with gems --
- the great Virtues and romanitas of the ancients--- but the Pater
Patriae have unlocked that casket once and for all time, and it
cannot be re-locked. The gems are in the hearts and minds and hands
of her citizens. Vox populi vox dei.

Vale,

Cato

A. Apollónius Cordus C. Equitió Catóní amícó
omnibusque sal.

> ... Let the
> People decide. Vox populi vox dei.

Et haec est vóx Mysterónium... O O


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omnibusque sal.

Cató wrote:

> > I think all this stuff is quite inappropriate
> considering the
> > SUBJECT LINE. You dolts! I'm CRANKY, get it?
> There is no time for
> > happy little songs or ---- <DING!> OOOOH! The
> fries are done!
> > Woohoo!
>
> Ah, a perfect example of MBSO (Management By Shiny
> Object). Oooh,
> pretty...

If Cató has been eating shiny fries, it's no wonder
he's feeling poorly.





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>
> > ... Let the
> > People decide. Vox populi vox dei.
>
> Et haec est vóx Mysterónium... O O
>
>
> (Those of you who are unfamiliar with either Latin or
> Captain Scarlet - don't worry about it.)
>
>

I know Dr. Who- I'd come up and see his Tardis any day;-)

Maior

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Salve Consul

Now that sounds like a PARTY I could join! : )

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Still your friend??? : (

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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Polybius


Salve Gai Popilli,

gaiuspopilliuslaenas wrote:

> Sometimes, I think Caesar amice, one must be nuts to run for office ;-),

You know I'm going to require all of the candidates to form a Conga Line
with me before I announce the election results, don't you?

(OK, not really...)

-- Marinus

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A. Apollónius Cordus Cn Equitió Marínó amícó
omnibusque sal.

Thanks for showing us these responses. May I orate
briefly?

This selection of responses suggests an epidemic of
confusion and muddle-headedness in our patrés - no
doubt a temporary plague caused by being convened at
short notice. The reasons of those who voted 'no' seem
to fall into three camps.

The first, containing two of the six speeches which
give reasons (I don't count Probus Macedonicus'
response, since it's impossible to know what his "some
concerns" are and into which group they fall), is the
camp of 'I don't know enough about the guy to
authorize him for this job'. That's a very reasonable
and sensible position, though it is a shame these
senátórés were unable to actually talk to Kaelus in
order to get to know him better.

One other senátor gives as a reason not any
consideration of the merits of the fellow in question
but the fact that the position he hopes to be elected
to ought not to exist. This is rather baffling. The
position does exist, and until it ceases to exist it
must be filled. Rejecting a certain candidate for the
post does not make the post vanish, nor does allowing
him to stand for election make it any more difficult
to abolish the job at a later date. All it achieves is
that the job is not being done by anyone. The senate's
job when considering applications for waivers is not
to decide whether the office the applicant wants ought
to exist, it is to consider whether the applicant
deserves to be allowed to stand for the office which
he wants to stand for. One does not expect a judge to
say 'I am going to let this murderer go free because I
think murder ought to be legal'. That's not the
decision the judge is there to make.

The remaining three are along the lines of 'the law
sets a minimum age and so we should stick to it or
else change the law'. This sounds very sane, but it
ignores the fact that the law also allows that
requirement of age to be waived at the discretion of
the senate. It does not say 'this is the minimum age
and there may be no exceptions'. It says 'this is the
minimum age but the senate may make exceptions if it
thinks proper' (not a direct quotation, but
indisputably the gist).

So those who say 'we should either have a strict
minimum age or none at all', while of course entitled
to that opinion, are defying the will of the comitia
which enacted the law in the first place. The populus
voted, and what the populus said is 'we want a minimum
age to be set, but we also want the senate to look at
each case individually and allow exceptions if
appropriate'. These senátórés are saying 'no, we will
not do what the law asks us to do: we will not
consider this man on his individual merits, as the
populus has asked us to. We will ignore the fact that
the populus has made absolutely clear its desire for
exemptions to be granted in deserving cases; we prefer
to imagine that the law allows for no exemptions at
all.'

Written law, as legal thinkers since Plato have
pointed out, is a blunt instrument - it is by nature
general and vague, and it is incapable of taking into
account the subtle details of real life. Thus those
who enforce the written law have a certain degree of
discretion in that enforcement, so that they may adapt
the general rule to the particular circumstance. This
is all the more true in this case, since the law in
question specifically charges the senate with the duty
of making such decisions. It *asks* the senate to
consider the merits of the individual and to decide
whether to make an exception to the rule. For any
senátor to refuse to do that is nothing more than a
dereliction of duty.

These three senátórés and also the one who rejected
the candidate because of objections about the office
(and I haven't made any attempt to check which
senátórés are the authors of these four votes because
it makes no difference) have done a gross disservice
to Modius Kaelus, who had every right to expect to be
considered on his own merits and not to be dismissed
because of considerations which are nothing to do with
the issue; and they have done a gross disservice to
the whole populus, which in good faith entrusted them
with an important duty and had every right to expect
this duty to be performed.

Perhaps, as some of these senátórés have suggested,
the relevant law ought indeed to be revised. Perhaps
it ought to be revised in order to remove the duty of
considering waivers from the senate, which clearly has
no interest in doing as the populus asks of it, and to
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Esteemed Libras, to whom my sympathy clearly goes (how couldn't it, I'm a
zodiacal Libra after all) but I'm not a member of, and you oh so independent
candidates on the other side...

...Do you realize that in the last 24 hours you dropped on this list 132
messages and in the last 4 hours only you managed to send 63 messages, one
message every 4 minutes??? What about if you ALL could calm down a bit?

And especially you, Julius Caesar, with 21 messages and you, Troianus, with
18 (so you see I do not pick on any specific side)... hell, give us a break
(and I'm sure one will get upset at the latter line and the other will
realize the good in it)!

In the last 24 hours we got 132 messages coming from just about 20 people
and most of them really dropped less than 5... this is a chatroom volume,
not a mailing list.

If you (all the ones who post more than 10 mails a day, not jut the two
above) really can't help it, give the whole population a time and server on
irc, make a nova roma channel and talk it out, showing you rethorical kill,
but hell, do not force the other 200 people on this list to drown in this
tidal wave of words, it doesn't help either side, really.

As an aletrnative, drop simply a mail saying "what X has just said is
bullshit, do not consider it", because that's what most of you is just
saying regarding a previos posts, but at least the other people on this
mailing list would have a much easier time sorting out and deleting posts,
rather than having to read lines an dlines (often pointlessly quoted) to get
the point that can be so brillantly expressed in thehalf line reported
above.

Incidentally, in the time it took to write this little mail, six more
messages hit my mailbox... as Charlie Brown would say.. good grief. I just
know tomorrow morning I shall find another 150 messages waiting to be
read...

Vale

Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
The one who dropped less than 10 mails in the whole electoral campaign and
that , with all good will, is unnerved to be just barely able to keep up
with such volumes of mass mailing.


Aedilis Urbis
PF Constantinia
Candidate for Tribunus Plebis

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Would this work for you?

The new Nova Roman oath of office

I _____________________( fill in name) am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Boni, nor a friend of one nor an associate of one, nor a client of one nor a childhood neighbor of one or had dinner with one or even read one of their posts on or off the main list of Nova Roma or any other list in this life or a past one and will not be any other above in any future life either.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Who can not take the above Oath as he has had dinner, after Roman days, with a Bonus or two and 10 other Nova Romans. : )

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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: The Boni remain as a group. was Re: [Nova-Roma] Divergent viewpoints


Salva Diana et salvete omnes -

Yes Diana, but I notice you still haven't renounced your Boni
membership.
If that organization were truly "defunct" then it would cost you
nothing to do so - after all, what possible harm could there be in
"quitting" a group that no longer exists?
Yet those who protest the loudest that the Boni are "defunct" all
refuse to drop their claim, their identity, as members. Now, why
cling to a membership if there's no longer a group to be a member of?
The answer is obvious: The Boni remain. Not just the people, but the
group, as a group. Perhaps quiescent on their list, or perhaps moved
to another list, but still a group and a political group at that.
Hence the refusal to give up identifying themselves as Boni.
When known members *all* are saying "Yes, I'm a Bonus but the Boni
don't exist as a group...." - that is, when a *group* of people are all
identifying as members yet claiming there is no group - can it really
be believed?

Valete
- S E M Troianus
Moderati Candidate for Quaestor


On Dec 21, 2004, at 5:02 PM, Diana Aventina wrote:

>
> Salve Troianus,
>
> <Declare your independence, not just for this campaign (which is how
> <it is being seen), but for real, and denounce such a dispicable
> <outlook for the vile and unproductive thing that it is.
>
> Personally I am seeing both sides of these endless arguments as being
> vile and unproductive.
>
> Vale,
>
> Diana
>
>
> Servius Equitius Mercurius Troianus <hermeticagnosis@...>
> wrote:
> Salvete
>
> On Dec 21, 2004, at 2:03 PM, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
>
>> At least they told it to you straight until it became against the law
>> to so..
>
> Since the only speech that is against the law is defamatory and/or
> obscene, this appears to be an admission that "the Boni" approach is
> much as Maior has been making it out to be, at least in Q.Fabius'
> opinion.
>
> Metellus, Laenas and you others, take note, and formally renounce any
> Boni affilliation in order to distance yourself from such a view.
> "Guilt by association" is wrong, but people have a tendency to do it
> anyway, and you really don't want to be associated with such an
> outlook.
>
> Note also, Laenas et al, that telling "it straight" in an illegal way
> is what Q.Fabius thinks of as the Boni Way. He apparently doesn't
> consider your reasoned approach, using fact and argument, to be "Boni"
> in some way. Unfortunately, QFM and Drusus have been so loud so often
> that many people *do* think of being abusive as being the Boni Way. Is
> this how you want to be seen?
>
>
> Valete
> - S E M Troianus
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In a message dated 12/21/04 4:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dom.con.fus@... writes:

> Esteemed Libras, to whom my sympathy clearly goes (how couldn't it, I'm a
> zodiacal Libra after all

So am I, Kal OCT. Libra's are about balance. I see no balance here.

120 mails are nothing. During the campaign of 02 there were 205 mails in 45
minutes.

They are just warming up.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Salve Fusce.

1. Which Iulius Caesar are you referring to?

2. At what time and date did you start and end your count? I didn't
get the same total as you did - for either me (or Cornelianus) or
Troianus.

Vale
Gnaeus Iulius Caesar


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
<dom.con.fus@e...> wrote:

> Esteemed Libras, to whom my sympathy clearly goes (how couldn't it,

I'm a

> zodiacal Libra after all) but I'm not a member of, and you oh so

independent

> candidates on the other side...
>
> ...Do you realize that in the last 24 hours you dropped on this

list 132

> messages and in the last 4 hours only you managed to send 63

messages, one

> message every 4 minutes??? What about if you ALL could calm down a

bit?

>
> And especially you, Julius Caesar, with 21 messages and you,

Troianus, with

> 18 (so you see I do not pick on any specific side)... hell, give us

a break

> (and I'm sure one will get upset at the latter line and the other

will

> realize the good in it)!
>
> In the last 24 hours we got 132 messages coming from just about 20

people

> and most of them really dropped less than 5... this is a chatroom

volume,

> not a mailing list.
>
> If you (all the ones who post more than 10 mails a day, not jut the

two

> above) really can't help it, give the whole population a time and

server on

> irc, make a nova roma channel and talk it out, showing you

rethorical kill,

> but hell, do not force the other 200 people on this list to drown

in this

> tidal wave of words, it doesn't help either side, really.
>
> As an aletrnative, drop simply a mail saying "what X has just said

is

> bullshit, do not consider it", because that's what most of you is

just

> saying regarding a previos posts, but at least the other people on

this

> mailing list would have a much easier time sorting out and deleting

posts,

> rather than having to read lines an dlines (often pointlessly

quoted) to get

> the point that can be so brillantly expressed in thehalf line

reported

> above.
>
> Incidentally, in the time it took to write this little mail, six

more

> messages hit my mailbox... as Charlie Brown would say.. good grief.

I just

> know tomorrow morning I shall find another 150 messages waiting to

be

> read...
>
> Vale
>
> Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
> The one who dropped less than 10 mails in the whole electoral

campaign and

> that , with all good will, is unnerved to be just barely able to

keep up

> with such volumes of mass mailing.
>
>
> Aedilis Urbis
> PF Constantinia
> Candidate for Tribunus Plebis
>
> --
> Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te:

http://www.email.it/f

>
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mid=814&d=20041222

In a message dated 12/21/04 4:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dom.con.fus@... writes:

> As an alternative, drop simply a mail saying "what X has just said is
> bullshit, do not consider it", because that's what most of you is just
> saying regarding a previous posts

I think we would if the law didn't forbid it. And now you are going to
moderated and it is
a bad time to be moderated during an election when razor wit, and educated
speech for a timely response in the forum is necessary.

Q Fabius Maximus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In a message dated 12/21/04 4:03:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
a_apollonius_cordus@... writes:

> Thanks for showing us these responses. May I orate
> briefly?
>

If we say no, would that stop you? :-)

> This selection of responses suggests an epidemic of
> confusion and muddle-headedness in our patrés - no
> doubt a temporary plague caused by being convened at
> short notice. The reasons of those who voted 'no' seem
> to fall into three camps.
>

Pray tell.

> The first, containing two of the six speeches which
> give reasons (I don't count Probus Macedonicus'
> response, since it's impossible to know what his "some
> concerns" are and into which group they fall), is the
> camp of 'I don't know enough about the guy to
> authorize him for this job'. That's a very reasonable
> and sensible position, though it is a shame these
> senátórés were unable to actually talk to Kaelus in
> order to get to know him better.
>

Yes it was. Of course no one stopped Kaelus from adderssing the Senate,
something
he did not really do. The other candidate did, and found several Senatorial
sponsors as well, to speak in his behalf.
The feeling that seemed to infuse the House was that Kaelus was an unknown
factor, and one that needed more time here in Nova Roma before being considered.

Bene valete
Q. Fabius Maximus





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In a message dated 12/21/04 4:15:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, spqr753@...
writes:

> Who can not take the above Oath as he has had dinner, after Roman days,
> with a Bonus or two and 10 other Nova Romans. : )
>

And found him to be utterly charming, right?
The food was good, the company delightful, and the wine delicious.
Q. Fabius Maximus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Q. Fabius Maximus

Absolutely both you and Diana and the other Nova Romans as well.

Vale

TGP

----- Original Message -----
From: QFabiusMaxmi@...<mailto:QFabiusMaxmi@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] New Nova Roman Oath of Office


In a message dated 12/21/04 4:15:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, spqr753@...<mailto:spqr753@...>
writes:

> Who can not take the above Oath as he has had dinner, after Roman days,
> with a Bonus or two and 10 other Nova Romans. : )
>

And found him to be utterly charming, right?
The food was good, the company delightful, and the wine delicious.
Q. Fabius Maximus


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Salvete omnes,

I have discussed this situation before and will do it again. This ML
is like the forum meeting place where people can chat and have things
out with one another in a pleasant or unpleasant way. Out of 2000
souls I noticed that a few dozen are consistantly active on this list
which indicates to me that they are at least very dedicated and
interested in the affairs of NR. They also tell us of the great works
other Nova Romans, less vocal or not vocal at all may be doing behind
the scenes on sites that are more obscure or in another language. The
fact that the vast majority of citizens or socii choose not to
participate on the ML is not the problem or concern of these frequent
posters. Never have I seen this site ever slowed or frozen up by
traffic. When there are a huge number of postings I simply scan and
zero in on the articles of interest.

OK, for argument's sake we could make a temporary limit to each
member of 3 posts a day. I guarentee the list would eventually slow
to a trickle, a few postings a day, boredom and apathy which breeds
boredom and apathy would set in and eventually participation and
interest would grind to a standstill as on many other NR lists. I say
be thankful to this little group (however argumentative) that is
prolific enough to keep NR on the go and continually active.

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus










--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
<gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:

>
> Salve Fusce.
>
> 1. Which Iulius Caesar are you referring to?
>
> 2. At what time and date did you start and end your count? I didn't
> get the same total as you did - for either me (or Cornelianus) or
> Troianus.
>
> Vale
> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
> <dom.con.fus@e...> wrote:
> > Esteemed Libras, to whom my sympathy clearly goes (how couldn't

it,

> I'm a
> > zodiacal Libra after all) but I'm not a member of, and you oh so
> independent
> > candidates on the other side...
> >
> > ...Do you realize that in the last 24 hours you dropped on this
> list 132
> > messages and in the last 4 hours only you managed to send 63
> messages, one
> > message every 4 minutes??? What about if you ALL could calm down

a

> bit?
> >
> > And especially you, Julius Caesar, with 21 messages and you,
> Troianus, with
> > 18 (so you see I do not pick on any specific side)... hell, give

us

> a break
> > (and I'm sure one will get upset at the latter line and the other
> will
> > realize the good in it)!
> >
> > In the last 24 hours we got 132 messages coming from just about

20

> people
> > and most of them really dropped less than 5... this is a chatroom
> volume,
> > not a mailing list.
> >
> > If you (all the ones who post more than 10 mails a day, not jut

the

> two
> > above) really can't help it, give the whole population a time and
> server on
> > irc, make a nova roma channel and talk it out, showing you
> rethorical kill,
> > but hell, do not force the other 200 people on this list to drown
> in this
> > tidal wave of words, it doesn't help either side, really.
> >
> > As an aletrnative, drop simply a mail saying "what X has just

said

> is
> > bullshit, do not consider it", because that's what most of you is
> just
> > saying regarding a previos posts, but at least the other people

on

> this
> > mailing list would have a much easier time sorting out and

deleting

> posts,
> > rather than having to read lines an dlines (often pointlessly
> quoted) to get
> > the point that can be so brillantly expressed in thehalf line
> reported
> > above.
> >
> > Incidentally, in the time it took to write this little mail, six
> more
> > messages hit my mailbox... as Charlie Brown would say.. good

grief.

> I just
> > know tomorrow morning I shall find another 150 messages waiting

to

> be
> > read...
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
> > The one who dropped less than 10 mails in the whole electoral
> campaign and
> > that , with all good will, is unnerved to be just barely able to
> keep up
> > with such volumes of mass mailing.
> >
> >
> > Aedilis Urbis
> > PF Constantinia
> > Candidate for Tribunus Plebis
> >
> > --
> > Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te:
> http://www.email.it/f
> >
> > Sponsor:
> > Libri e CD musicali nuovi con sconti dal 60 all'80%!
> > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?
> mid=814&d=20041222

A. Apollónius Cordus Q. Fabió Máximó omnibusque sal.

Constantínus Fuscus wrote:

> > As an alternative, drop simply a mail saying "what
> X has just said is
> > bullshit, do not consider it", because that's what
> most of you is just
> > saying regarding a previous posts

You replied:

> I think we would if the law didn't forbid it. And
> now you are going to
> moderated and it is
> a bad time to be moderated during an election when
> razor wit, and educated
> speech for a timely response in the forum is
> necessary.

I think you're in danger of misleading people about
the law and making them worry unnecessarily. There's
nothing in any léx which forbids statements like the
one Fuscus suggested.

It's true that this year one or two people have been
placed on brief spells of moderation for rowdy
behaviour or lewd comments, but I'm not aware that
anyone has been moderated for swearing or for saying
that another person was talking rubbish.

And isn't it like you always say about the blasphemy
decree: if people do it, they get several warnings,
and if they ignore the warnings, they get punished.
The difference is that the punishment for blasphemy is
banishment from Nova Róma; the punishment for breaking
the list guidelines is a few weeks on moderated
status.

Now, you know very well that I don't like the list
guidelines and I don't like seeing people put on
moderated status for expressing their views
forcefully. But There's no need for people to be
scared to write what they want to write. The worst
that will happen is they'll get put on moderation,
which is hardly a terrible fate. And if all they write
is what Fuscus wrote above, I doubt they'll even get
that.

By the way, thanks for your response to my message
about the senate's vote on Kaelus - as I said, I don't
have a big problem with people saying that they just
don't know him well enough to vote 'yes'. But I don't
think it's fair to say that this was the overall sense
of the meeting - only two people actually gave that as
the reason for voting 'no', and even if you add those
who didn't state a reason, you're still left with four
senátórés who justified their 'no' votes by reference
to considerations which had nothing to do with the
issue at hand.





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Salvete omnes, sed in particularum Q. Fabius Maximus et D.
Constantinus Fuscus.

Here we have INDISPUTABLE evidence that astrology is bunkum: the
fact that Constantinus Fuscus, Quintus Maximus, and I are ALL
ZODIACAL LIBRAS (I am ante diem XIV Kal. NOV.) yet I am the only
truly well-balanced one. Or would be if my cold medicine wasn't
making me wooooozy.

Valete,

Cato <CLUNK> ouch

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/21/04 4:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> dom.con.fus@e... writes:
>
> > Esteemed Libras, to whom my sympathy clearly goes (how couldn't
it, I'm a
> > zodiacal Libra after all
>
> So am I, Kal OCT. Libra's are about balance. I see no balance
here.
>
> 120 mails are nothing. During the campaign of 02 there were 205
mails in 45
> minutes.
>
> They are just warming up.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>
> Here we have INDISPUTABLE evidence that astrology is bunkum: the
> fact that Constantinus Fuscus, Quintus Maximus, and I are ALL
> ZODIACAL LIBRAS (I am ante diem XIV Kal. NOV.) yet I am the only
> truly well-balanced one. Or would be if my cold medicine wasn't
> making me wooooozy.
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato <CLUNK> ouch

I'm a Scorpio;-)

no more fusce I promise:)
Maior

Salve Corde, et salvete Quirites,

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:

> A. Apollónius Cordus Cn Equitió Marínó amícó
> omnibusque sal.
>
> Thanks for showing us these responses. May I orate
> briefly?

Oh sure. Go ahead.

> This selection of responses suggests an epidemic of
> confusion and muddle-headedness in our patrés - no
> doubt a temporary plague caused by being convened at
> short notice.

Yes, they only had four days notice that the Senate was to be called, another
four days for discussion in which very little was actually said, and then five
days to vote.

[remainder snipped]

I agree with your conclusions. As a Senator of Nova Roma I have to say I was
disappointed in the Senate's performance here. It was quite a near-run thing
for Metellus to be approved too, though he had the advantage of being better known.

Vale,

--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

Salve Romans

In order to be better informed on this subject , which I believe has been discussed of late, I would like to ask some questions on the subject of elected Pontiffs.

I would like to ask these of the candidates for office in Nova Roma and anyone else who can provide some education on this topic.


1. How historic would the election of the CP and that of the PM be?

2. Do you support or oppose the election of the members of the College of Pontiffs?

3. If you do support the election of the CP would the election be open to all Nova Romans or just the practitioners of the Religio Romanum?

4. If you support the CP as an elected body would this include the office of Pontiff Maximus being declared open so that can be elected also?

5. If the office of PM was opened to election would the CP or the citizens of Nova Roma elect the Pontiff Maximus?

6. Would it be open to all Nova Romans or just the practitioners of the Religio Romanum?

I thank you in advance for you answers.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.

L. Modius Kaelus is a good young man. I have met him personally, and can
attest to his character. While I do feel his time in Nova Roma is less than
what I would like to see, I do know him and that changes things a little -- at
least for me.

The office of webmaster is work, and a lot of work. Currently there is no
one else wanting to assume the responsibility of webmaster. I see no reason
to prevent him doing the duties of webmaster.

Next month the senate will have to figure out what they are going to do with
NO webmaster.

*sigh* The senate has spoken.

Valete;

Gaius Modius Athanasius

In a message dated 12/21/2004 4:19:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mlcinnyc@... writes:

G. Equitius Cato Consules et Senatores S.P.D.

Salvete, illustrii virii.

I must absolutely echo the sentiments expressed by C. Moravius
Laureatus Amoricus regarding L. Modius Kaelus. We have been offered
the services of an intelligent, hard-working young citizen, and we
turn him away? Please, gentlemen, would you kindly explain the
rationale behind waiving the one age requirement yet retaining the
other? I mean no disrespect, gentlemen, but as this will have a
drastic impact on the res publica, I do think it is reasonable to ask
that you explain the reasons behind this decision.

Valete bene,

Cato





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---Salve Maior:

I'm a Scorp too :)




Po


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@y...> wrote:

>
> >
> > Here we have INDISPUTABLE evidence that astrology is bunkum:

the

> > fact that Constantinus Fuscus, Quintus Maximus, and I are ALL
> > ZODIACAL LIBRAS (I am ante diem XIV Kal. NOV.) yet I am the only
> > truly well-balanced one. Or would be if my cold medicine wasn't
> > making me wooooozy.
> >
> > Valete,
> >
> > Cato <CLUNK> ouch
>
> I'm a Scorpio;-)
>
> no more fusce I promise:)
> Maior

Salve Tiberi Galeri, et salvete Quirites,

Tiberius Galerius writes:

> I would like to ask these of the candidates for office in
> Nova Roma and anyone else who can provide some education on this topic.

I think that out of regard for poor Fuscus and everyone else who feels drowned
in e-mail, we should limit this to candidates for magistracies that actually
can propose legislation: the Cosuls and the Tribunes.

> 1. How historic would the election of the CP and that of the PM be?

It all depends on how it was done. If done in accordance with Roman law, then
very historic.

> 2. Do you support or oppose the election of the members of
> the College of Pontiffs?

If done in accordance with Roman law, with the Collegium Pontificum required to
perform the primary selection of candidates, I could support the concept. I
would have to see the specific terms of the proposed law before I could comment
further. I most certainly would not support having pontifices elected
annually, or during the general elections.

> 3. If you do support the election of the CP would the election
> be open to all Nova Romans or just the practitioners of the Religio Romanum?

The only process I would support would require the Collegium Pontificum to
approve any candidate before they could be voted on by the Comitia Populi Tributa.

> 4. If you support the CP as an elected body would this include
> the office of Pontiff Maximus being declared open so that can be elected also?

Of course. However, once in office pontifices serve for life, so I would not
support placing any of the pontifical offices currently occupied up for
election until the pontifex holding that office either dies or voluntarily
relinquishes office.

> 5. If the office of PM was opened to election would the CP or the citizens
> of Nova Roma elect the Pontiff Maximus?

The Collegium Pontificum would select two finalists, who would then face a
special election in the Comitia Populi Tributa.

> 6. Would it be open to all Nova Romans or just the practitioners of
> the Religio Romanum?

These special elections involved having half of the tribes chosen by lot to
vote. Since there is no way of requiring people to divulge their religious
affiliation under our Constitution, we could not limit such an election to only
a particular group of people. However, the pre-selection of candidates by the
CP would insure that only qualified and recommended people were able to stand
for the offices.


Vale,


--
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

> The office of webmaster is work, and a lot of work. Currently

there

> is no one else wanting to assume the responsibility of webmaster. I
> see no reason to prevent [Kaelus] doing the duties of webmaster.
>
> Next month the senate will have to figure out what they are going
> to do with NO webmaster.

There's always the Lysandrian solution: someone could take the office,
appoint Kaelus as her scribe, and delegate everything to Kaelus.
Ideally, this would be someone web-savvy, who could step in and act as
a de facto webmaster suffectus if Kaelus should vanish into thin air
at some point during the year. (I'd recommend that the Senate
exercise its right to award Kaelus the century points that he would
have earned from serving as Magister Araenarius if he winds up serving
in this way.)

I'd volunteer to be this figurehead myself, but the Lex Equitia de
Vigntisexviris mandates that a byelection be held to fill the
position, and I'll be forbidden to stand for any office next year
while serving as Diribitrix. Surely, another willing volunteer can be
found?

Vale,
Claudia Iulia
(delegata potestas potest delegari :-) )

--
Claudia Iulia <futabachan@...>

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** A Crest for a helmet is still available, red horsehair in a red wood block, made by myself and Ed.
It comes with a nice steel support, and an excellent wooden storage and carrying box that Ed made. $75
** Hand-forged Mainz Gladius, $300. Second from left in this photo: http://www.larp.com/legioxx/gladii3.jpg
** Wonderful blade by Dave Stone, hilt and scabbard by Matthew Amt.
The grip is wood and a little skinny, but it can be replaced with a bone one very easily. Pommel and guard are walnut.
Scabbard is a simple brass frame with a nice finial over green linen-covered wood.
Very easy to add decorated plates or replace the linen with leather, etc. Has a baldric with a buckle.
Matt has the crest and sword at his my castra, and can bring them to any event or workshop, etc.
You can either pay him (cash or check) or write a check out to Ed, and he will forward it to him.
** One or two marching satchels for sale, $100 each.
Won't these bargains look great under your Christmas tree? Order today!
Don't delay! Anything that doesn't sell will end up being advertised, and could end up going off to some far off distant land to Romans we don't know - or worse - to E-Bay - Horrors!!
Valete, Matthew/Quintus, Legio XX "Emporium" mamt@... legioxx@...

UPCOMING CAMPAIGNS for 2005
*** April 13-14 Roman Days Northeast, Marshfield, MA
*** June 3-5, Roman Days, Marietta Mansion, Glenn Dale, MD. Includes visits by school groups on Friday, and possibly a mini-symposium on Thursday.
*** August 6-7, Annual Fort Malden Military Days, Amherstburg, Ontario
*** August 16-20, Pennsic War, Coopers Lake Campground, New Castle, PA, I-79 and Rt 422
*** October 22-23, Probable Ren Faire appearance, Waterloo Village, Netcong, NJ, I-80-exit 25 11AM-5PM

Be sure to check the website from time to time. It is updated at least once a month and generally more than once.
www.legionxxiv.org A new Movie Page covering the several filming campaigns of Legion XXIV and its Allies has been put-up.
The Gladiatorium Page has recently undergone a major update with many Latin terms added. There other minor dates throughout
the website. Check in often.

I am most gratified that our Legion XXIV has prospered over the years since 1998 and Thank You All for helping to make the Legion one of the more well recognized and respected Roman reenactment units.

I extend my most sincere Wishes that this Holiday Season of 2004, and the coming year of 2005, may bring friends to your fireside, peace to your pathway and good health and happiness to you and yours, along with the enduring friendships and the many freedoms with which we have all been blessed.



Happy Holidays !! And a Prosperous New Year !!!



And don't make any New Year's Resolutions that you would not want to get caught breaking!



Thanking you for your continued support of Legion XXIV, I remain;

Yours in the Bonds of Ancient Rome

Gallio / George



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Salve, A. Apolloni Corde -

On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:21:31PM +0000, A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:
> A. Apoll nius Cordus C. Minuci Scaevolae am c
> omnibusque sal.
>
> Cat wrote:
>
> > > I think all this stuff is quite inappropriate
> > considering the
> > > SUBJECT LINE. You dolts! I'm CRANKY, get it?
> > There is no time for
> > > happy little songs or ---- <DING!> OOOOH! The
> > fries are done!
> > > Woohoo!
> >
> > Ah, a perfect example of MBSO (Management By Shiny
> > Object). Oooh,
> > pretty...
>
> If Cat has been eating shiny fries, it's no wonder
> he's feeling poorly.

I've *told* him all that grease is bad for him, but would he listen?...


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Non omne quod licet honestum est.
Not everything that is permitted is honest.
-- Corpus Iuris Civilis: Digesta

Salve Fusce

>>(and I'm sure one will get upset at the latter line and the other

will realize the good in it)!<<

You meant Troianus would get upset and I would see the
good...right ;)?

Vale
Caesar


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
<dom.con.fus@e...> wrote:

> Esteemed Libras, to whom my sympathy clearly goes (how couldn't

it, I'm a

> zodiacal Libra after all) but I'm not a member of, and you oh so

independent

> candidates on the other side...