AVETE OMNES

I remind you that from August 4th to 10th it will take place in Rome
the 4th Conventus Novae Romae, the international Nova Roma Rally!
Visit the website of the event to learn everything about it at:
http://italia.novaroma.org/conventus2758

Given that a lot of citizens have already subscribed the event and
many others still want to join it, I managed to get more rooms at
Hotel Michigan and an extension of about 10 days for booking.
So you still have 10 days to book your room at hotel michigan!!!

It looks this Conventus might be the largest rally of citizens Nova
Roma has ever had!

Provisional list of participants:

-Franciscus Apulus Caesar (Italia)
-Marcus Iulius Perusianus (Italia)
-Lucius Iulius Sulla (Italia)
-Aurelia Iulia Pulchra (Italia)
-Manius Constantinus Serapio (Italia)
-Domitius Constantinus Fuscus (Italia)
-Quintus Fabius Allectus (Italia)
-Alexander Solaris Draco (Italia)
-Sempronia Solaria Messalina (Italia)
-Aelius Solaris Marullinus (Italia)
-Marcus Quirinus Sulla (Italia)
-Gnaeus Salvius Astur (Hispania)
-Marcus Flavius Drusus (Hispania)
-Publius Aelius Baeticus Pertinax (Hispania)
-Marcus Aelius Baeticus Octavianus (Hispania)
-Ennia Durmia Gemina (Hispania)
-Marianus Adrianus Sarus (Hispania)
-Gaius Adrianus Sergius (Hispania)
-Lucius Minicius Laietanus (Hispania)
-Gaia Fabia Livia (Britannia)
-Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Britannia)
-Gaius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus (Britannia)
-Iohannes Moravius Meridius (Britannia)
-Decimus Gladius Lupus (Hibernia)
-Vibia Ulpia Aestiva (Germania)
-Gaius Equitius Cato (Mediatlantica)
-Marcus Gladius Agricola (Asia Orientalis)

...and others are subscribing in these days!

Don't miss this great opportunity to visit the Eternal City and meet
a lot of Novaromans!

OPTIME VALETE
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Propraetor Italiae

A. Apollonius omnibus sal.

Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?



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S.V.G.E.R.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Aulus Apollonius Cordus wrote
(..) :

> Are you a member of the sodalitas Latinitatis? These
> are precisely the sort of questions we are trying to
> address there at the moment, and we could surely
> benefit from your help.
>

and Hon. Fl.Tullia Scholastica answered for her part :

> I don't believe that Tribunus P. Memmius Albucius is a member
> of Latinitas.

> These are indeed the very sort of questions we are trying to
>address there, particularly in our charter revision commission, and
>would appreciate the assistance of all interested parties,
>particularly those who are as interested in fostering the Latin
>language as much as you appear to be,Tribune.

Eheu eheu, I am not time enough to share the works of the Sod.
Latinitas ; it would not be fair for me to enter a group while
knowing that I cannot give it time enough.

On a second hand, I think furthermore, as a tribune, that our
different sodalitates are "think tanks" which may be productive
places to help our institutions improving their tools.
But, as we Novaromans already have a "natural" trend - because, in
fact, we are not as so many citizens - crossing and piling up
functions and offices, I think that it is better to let any non
governmental group - here the Sod. Lat. - freely make its proposals,
without any consideration of politics, then to let the institutions
play their role (endorsing a text, discussing it, proposing to the
comitia, opposing it, etc.).

On this last point, I think that a law could be necessary to improve
our landscape. And as tribune, I will support any action that will
help us all going forward on the questions seen in my last message.

Ambo valete.

P. Memmius Albucius
Tribunus Plebis

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:

> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?

Nothing would please me more than seeing the Eternal City again;
however, my son will deploy to Iraq in August and I must remain home
in anticipation of his leave before he goes. *sigh* I'll be a wreck
anyway, before and after.

Nobody desires peace more than a soldier... and a soldier's mater!

--
Julilla Sempronia Magna

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?

Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
ferre possumus...

Vale, et valete,

Flavia

>
>
>

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .

Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est. Si autem multam
pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.
Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(

Valete optime

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus



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From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flavia Scholastica
Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK



Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?

Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
ferre possumus...

Vale, et valete,

Flavia

>
>
>

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P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.

S.V.G.E.R.

Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
regnum umbrae compendiique !

Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)

Vale,

P. Memmius Albucius

Q. Metellus salutem.

(I had sent this approximately twelve hours ago, and it has not yet
appeared, so I apologize for double posting, if that comes to be the
case.)

Where exactly shall I begin? It seems that my not being appointed to
the position to which Flavia Tullia has been has upset at least one
among us. I can understand that, and seeing the questions which
sprang from it, I understand it even more.

I volunteered for the position in light of the fact that the previous
interpreter had been removed, and that we were at the time without,
so far as I knew, anyone else willing to take on the duties. Then
the agenda for this recent Senate vote was published, and I became
aware that there indeed was someone else willing, and in fact more
competent than I, to take the job. So I wrote to Consul Laenas
asking to be removed from the agenda, but it was his colleague who
called the Senate, and in any case, the ball may have been rolling
too fast for him to have stopped it anyway. As far as I'm concerned,
Nova Roma should have the better translator, and I think She got just
that in Flavia Tullia.

I agree, naturally, that the Lex Cornelia needs some clarification.
In fact, I'm not so sure the number of interpreters should be limited
to ten (or even at all, though at this point the limit may not be
inappropriate). But for now, at least in the interest of peace, let
us all just enjoy that there are people willing to do the job. As
for who is right for it, I've expressed my opinion, and the Senate
has expressed its; for now, let us let it all rest at that.

Valete,

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus

Q. Caecilius Metellus Chari omnibusque salutem dicit.

> Another is less obvious: everyone with the same nomen
> and cognomen (second and third name) belongs to the
> same family, and that family is not likely to be
> pleased if you decide to adopt their nomen and
> cognomen if you're not a member of the family. So if
> you do want a Roman name, it would be polite to make
> sure it's not the same name as anyone else has.

... or just ask the person. If you ever do consider citizenship, it
might
help in the process, to some extents.

Vos Valeatis.

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pilato Barbato quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>
> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est.

Ita'st, sane, praesertim inter magistros emeritos. Catoni nostro,
autem, sat nummorum (quia non magister est).

>Si autem multam
> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.

Ingentes gratias tibi agam...

> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(

Nolim autem solis exustionibus et ingenti calore mense Augusto in Italia
laborare. Audivi quoque incolas Europae per mensem Augustum in feriis
abesse--eruntne custodes vigilesque Romae? Baiuli mercenariae coqui?

Fortasse anno proximo in patriam tuam iter facere possim. Societatibus
aeronauticis autem plures nummos solvendos, et deversoriis, sed spero me
illud iter perlongum facturam esse. Sine dubio, stagnum aestuosum quod
inter nos iacet natare non possim.

>
> Valete optime
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>

Et tu, et vos omnes!

Flavia Tullia Scholastica

>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Flavia Scholastica
> Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
>
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>>
>> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
> ferre possumus...
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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L. Octavius Arcaruis Novoromananis S.P.D.

Does anyone know what the status of Nova Roma forums is? I am asking
because I generally prefer forums to maillist.

Salvete,
Lucius

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Publio Memmio Albucio S.P.D.

> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
>
> S.V.G.E.R.
>
> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
> regnum umbrae compendiique !
>

In Grege Latine Loquentium, scripsi beatitudines novas, quas inveniam et
ad te mittam.

> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
>

Cutis mea non tam patricia quam septentrionalis--et toleratio caloris
similis. Capilli tui et oculi fusci autem, etiam paene nigri, te non omnino
nec exustionibus nec calore protegent...

Recte dicis de umbratili vita...

> Vale,
>
> P. Memmius Albucius
>

Vale, et valete,

Flavia

>
>
>
>
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Scholastica Publio Memmio Albucio quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque omnibus
S.P.D.

> P. Memmius Albucius Scholasticae Cordoque s.d.
>
> S.V.G.E.R.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Aulus Apollonius Cordus wrote
> (..) :
>
>> Are you a member of the sodalitas Latinitatis? These
>> are precisely the sort of questions we are trying to
>> address there at the moment, and we could surely
>> benefit from your help.
>>
>
> and Hon. Fl.Tullia Scholastica answered for her part :
>
>> I don't believe that Tribunus P. Memmius Albucius is a member
>> of Latinitas.
>
>> These are indeed the very sort of questions we are trying to
>> address there, particularly in our charter revision commission, and
>> would appreciate the assistance of all interested parties,
>> particularly those who are as interested in fostering the Latin
>> language as much as you appear to be,Tribune.
>
>
> Eheu eheu, I am not time enough to share the works of the Sod.
> Latinitas ; it would not be fair for me to enter a group while
> knowing that I cannot give it time enough.

Realistically, the Sodalitas Latinitatis requires very little time from
its members, as do most of our sodalities. The officers may have to do some
work, and the moderator definitely does, but in Latinitas there are those
who ask questions, and those who answer them, plus those who sit by and do
nothing, whether or not they have the skills to assist the others. There,
as in most of the sodalities, there are long periods of silence punctuated
by bursts of activity; the difference seems to reside in which punctuates
which more often and for longer periods. I'm sure you could handle reading
a few posts now and again--we aren't drafting you for the charter revision
commission, which has already been established and is doing its work. The
Res Publica needs all of the competent Latinists we can find, and needs them
in the Sodalitas where we can identify them. You write nice Latin, and we
could use your input if you're willing to provide it--but that isn't
necessary in order to be a member. Passive membership seems to be the norm.

>
> On a second hand, I think furthermore, as a tribune, that our
> different sodalitates are "think tanks" which may be productive
> places to help our institutions improving their tools.
> But, as we Novaromans already have a "natural" trend - because, in
> fact, we are not as so many citizens - crossing and piling up
> functions and offices, I think that it is better to let any non
> governmental group - here the Sod. Lat. - freely make its proposals,
> without any consideration of politics, then to let the institutions
> play their role (endorsing a text, discussing it, proposing to the
> comitia, opposing it, etc.).

Well, the only part of Latinitas that seems to be functioning as a think
tank is the charter revision commission...

> On this last point, I think that a law could be necessary to improve
> our landscape. And as tribune, I will support any action that will
> help us all going forward on the questions seen in my last message.
>

Optime!

> Ambo valete.
>
> P. Memmius Albucius
> Tribunus Plebis
>

Flavia Tullia Scholastica

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae omnibusque salutem
dicit.



Imago nostrae audacis Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae contra validarum oceani
aquarum potestatem pugnantis magnifica est sed pecunia adquisita melius
credo illam officio vehiculi aeronautici fidere .

Eheu! pecunia dictatoria tota vita est et maiores divitiae in posterum
speratae numquam veniunt!

Valete optime, omnes.



Sextus Pilatus Barbatus



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From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flavia Scholastica
Sent: 02 June 2005 01:16
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK



Flavia Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pilato Barbato quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>
> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est.

Ita'st, sane, praesertim inter magistros emeritos. Catoni nostro,
autem, sat nummorum (quia non magister est).

>Si autem multam
> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.

Ingentes gratias tibi agam...

> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(

Nolim autem solis exustionibus et ingenti calore mense Augusto in Italia
laborare. Audivi quoque incolas Europae per mensem Augustum in feriis
abesse--eruntne custodes vigilesque Romae? Baiuli mercenariae coqui?

Fortasse anno proximo in patriam tuam iter facere possim. Societatibus
aeronauticis autem plures nummos solvendos, et deversoriis, sed spero me
illud iter perlongum facturam esse. Sine dubio, stagnum aestuosum quod
inter nos iacet natare non possim.

>
> Valete optime
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>

Et tu, et vos omnes!

Flavia Tullia Scholastica

>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Flavia Scholastica
> Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO

BOOK

>
>
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>>
>> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
> ferre possumus...
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Salve,

Well I'm still working on my (private) test forum for nova romans
(located at http://www.takeforum.com/forum/?mforum=novaroma), but I've
asked a consul to ask the Senate to set up an official Nova Roma
forum.
Of course, in the meanwhile, you're still more than welcome at my test forum...

vale

P. Minius Mercator

On 6/2/05, lucius_octavius_arcarius <lucius_octavius_arcarius@...> wrote:
> L. Octavius Arcaruis Novoromananis S.P.D.
>
> Does anyone know what the status of Nova Roma forums is? I am asking
> because I generally prefer forums to maillist.
>
> Salvete,
> Lucius
>
>
>
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G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana omnibusque salutem plurinam dicit.

For cives of long duration in Nova Roma, I am probably repeating what
you know, but as a new civis, I would like to share my enthusiasm for
this book with other (relative) newcomers.

Si vous etes d'origine francaise / francophone, vous aurez la bonne
fortune de le lire en langue originelle.

Aires, Philippe and Georges Duby, eds,
A HISTORY OF PRIVATE LIFE (Volume I): from pagan Rome to Byzantium
tranlated from the French by Arthur Goldhammer
Belknap Press (Harvard University), Cambridge MA, 1987.
illustrations, diagrams, index and bibliography.

Originally published in French as
HISTOIRE DE LA VIE PRIVEE (Vol. I): De l'Empire romain a l'an mil.
Editions du Seuil, 1985.

Dommage que notre bibliotheque dans ma p'tite ville n'en possede que
la version anglaise. J'aurais bien voulu le lire en francais.

Every aspect of daily life, from birth through childhood, schooling,
marriage, commerce, politics, etc etc etc. The fabric upon which the
tapestry of history is writ large. A chance here to see the tiny
fibres that underlay the glamour of major events.

Significant attention is paid to the lives of women.

In the chapters on the function of the domus, there are many
foundation/floor-plans of houses, especially in North Africa. If and
when the :-X scanner in this domus gets up and running, I will pair
them with my pictures of Volubilis for upload.

A mon avis, un tel livre represente l'histoire tel que j'aurais voulu
l'apprendre a l'ecole. Chaque detaille de la vie quotidienne est
presentee, des la naissance a travers enfance, formation, vie
sociale, commerciale et politique. Tout est supporte par photos de
sites et de monuments, ainsi que par dessins des plans de nombreuses
maisons recherchees surtout en Afrique du nord.

This is dense reading, packed with information, but I found it worth
every minute invested.

La lecture de ce livre est un peu "la galere" :-), mais en vaut bien
la peine.

Valete bene in pacem deorum.

G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana

G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana omnibusque sal.

I found the following passage in a book on my philosophy shelf. To
my mind, it reflects many of the Roman virtues in a very gentle
context. Much of the style here comes from the way the English
language has been used.

Many of the concepts feel like clear echoes of Marcus Aurelius (from
whom this domus takes its nomen) and others of the Stoics. Aurora
being one of the deities of this domus, I am partial to paragraph
2, "when you hail the beauty of the morning . . . . "

Which (Roman) writer do you believe may be the author? :-)

[Answer next week]
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Let us speak no more now of God the Father. Let us speak rather of
the gods, your neighbours, and of your brothers, the elements that
move about your houses and your fields.

You would rise in fancy unto the cloud, and you deem it height; and
you would pass over the vast sea and claim it to be distance. But I
say unto you that when you sow a seed in the earth, you reach a
greater height; and when you hail the beauty of the morning to your
neighbour, you cross a greater sea.

Too often do you sing God, the Infinite, and yet in truth you hear
not the song. Would that you might listen to the songbirds, and to
the leaves that forsake the branch when the wind passes by, and forget
not, my friends, that these sing only when they are separated from
the branch!

Again I bid you to speak not so freely of God, who is your All, but
speak rather and understand one another, neighbour unto neighbour, a
god unto a god.

For what shall feed the fledgling in the nest if the mother bird
flies skyward? And what anemone in the field shall be fulfilled
unless it be husbanded by a bee from another anemone?

It is only when you are lost in your smaller selves that you seek the
sky which you call God. Would that you might find paths into your
vast selves; would that you might be less idle and pave the roads!

My mariners and my friends, it were wiser to speak less of God, whom
we cannot understand, and more of each other, whom we may understand.
Yet I would have you know that we are the breath and the fragrance of
God. We are God, in leaf, in flower, and oftentimes in fruit.

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[Also, I think, good thoughts to recall when tempted to flame
(flambe?) other cives and officials over matters that should be the
subject of more dignitas, as happened recently in the rather
embarassing dust-up over the (dare I say it) e-FORUM :-^

Valete bene in pacem deorum.

G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana

Salvete

I preface:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/?yguid=160779752
Group Information
Members: 1022
Category: Roman Empire (who put 'Empire'? We are a Republic!)
Founded: Mar 13, 2002
Language: English *

Observation:
It has been often the custom of this list to provide translations for text
posted in languages other than English. Of course there are other lists, or
Private email for those matters that are not intended for the general
subscribers.
It has been at least a generation where the benefits of a classical
education has become a luxury to the average person, at least here in the
'States'. Indeed, I attended Catholic school as a child yet never had Latin,
until I retired from the military and took it in college for a couple of
years.

Anyway, I'd like to go Rome as well, but I have other responsibilities.
It would certainly be better there than the awful heat and humidity of
Washington DC!
OR cold and Rain :-(

Valete, L Equitius
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:43:39 -0400
From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?

Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
ferre possumus...

Vale, et valete,

Flavia
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:41:14 +0100
From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@...>
Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .

Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est. Si autem multam
pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.
Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(

Valete optime

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus

_____

From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flavia Scholastica
Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?

Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
ferre possumus...

Vale, et valete,

Flavia

________________________________________________________________________

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:12:31 -0000
From: "publiusalbucius" <albucius_aoe@...>
Subject: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty

P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.

S.V.G.E.R.

Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
regnum umbrae compendiique !

Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)

Vale,

P. Memmius Albucius

________________________________________________________________________

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:16:20 -0400
From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pilato Barbato quiritibus, sociis,
peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>
> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est.

Ita'st, sane, praesertim inter magistros emeritos. Catoni nostro,
autem, sat nummorum (quia non magister est).

>Si autem multam
> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.

Ingentes gratias tibi agam...

> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(

Nolim autem solis exustionibus et ingenti calore mense Augusto in Italia
laborare. Audivi quoque incolas Europae per mensem Augustum in feriis
abesse--eruntne custodes vigilesque Romae? Baiuli mercenariae coqui?

Fortasse anno proximo in patriam tuam iter facere possim. Societatibus
aeronauticis autem plures nummos solvendos, et deversoriis, sed spero me
illud iter perlongum facturam esse. Sine dubio, stagnum aestuosum quod
inter nos iacet natare non possim.

>
> Valete optime
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>

Et tu, et vos omnes!

Flavia Tullia Scholastica

________________________________________________________________________

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:38:45 -0400
From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty

Flavia Tullia Scholastica Publio Memmio Albucio S.P.D.

> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
>
> S.V.G.E.R.
>
> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
> regnum umbrae compendiique !
>

In Grege Latine Loquentium, scripsi beatitudines novas, quas inveniam et
ad te mittam.

> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
>

Cutis mea non tam patricia quam septentrionalis--et toleratio caloris
similis. Capilli tui et oculi fusci autem, etiam paene nigri, te non omnino
nec exustionibus nec calore protegent...

Recte dicis de umbratili vita...

> Vale,
>
> P. Memmius Albucius
>

Vale, et valete,

Flavia
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 13
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:03:32 +0100
From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@...>
Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae omnibusque salutem
dicit.

Imago nostrae audacis Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae contra validarum oceani
aquarum potestatem pugnantis magnifica est sed pecunia adquisita melius
credo illam officio vehiculi aeronautici fidere .

Eheu! pecunia dictatoria tota vita est et maiores divitiae in posterum
speratae numquam veniunt!

Valete optime, omnes.

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus

An excellent recommendation, which I second. I have read and re-
read "A History of Private Life" and it is indeed a valuable
resource. Paired with "The Houses of Roman Italy," (John R Clark,
University of California Press) the reader is allowed a much clearer
vision of the life and culture of ancient Roman society.

vale,

Julilla Sempronia Magna

Salve,

I have bought and read only the (I think it is) 3rd volume which I
think was both entertaining and interesting. And of course Aries is a
classic name when it comes to new historical methodology and
recommendable to read even for this reason. I'll have to see the
university library if I can find this first volume there, I didn't know
that he started with ancient era. It's always a pleasure to see people
recommending books they have read!

Vale,

On 2.6.2005, at 14:48, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:28:43 -0000
> From: "G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana" <silvanatextrix@...>
> Subject: A History of Private Life
>
> G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana omnibusque salutem plurinam dicit.
>
> For cives of long duration in Nova Roma, I am probably repeating what
> you know, but as a new civis, I would like to share my enthusiasm for
> this book with other (relative) newcomers.
>
> Aires, Philippe and Georges Duby, eds,
> A HISTORY OF PRIVATE LIFE (Volume I): from pagan Rome to Byzantium
> tranlated from the French by Arthur Goldhammer
> Belknap Press (Harvard University), Cambridge MA, 1987.
> illustrations, diagrams, index and bibliography.
>
> Originally published in French as
> HISTOIRE DE LA VIE PRIVEE (Vol. I): De l'Empire romain a l'an mil.
> Editions du Seuil, 1985.
>
> Every aspect of daily life, from birth through childhood, schooling,
> marriage, commerce, politics, etc etc etc. The fabric upon which the
> tapestry of history is writ large. A chance here to see the tiny
> fibres that underlay the glamour of major events.
>
> Significant attention is paid to the lives of women.
>
> In the chapters on the function of the domus, there are many
> foundation/floor-plans of houses, especially in North Africa. If and
> when the :-X scanner in this domus gets up and running, I will pair
> them with my pictures of Volubilis for upload.
>
> This is dense reading, packed with information, but I found it worth
> every minute invested.
>
> Valete bene in pacem deorum.
>
> G. Aurelia Falconis Silvana

Caius Curius Saturninus

Tribunus Plebis
Propraetor Provinciae Thules
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
www.academiathules.org
gsm: +358-50-3315279
fax: +358-9-8754751

Salve Luci Equiti, et salvete quirites,

Lucius Equitius wrote:

> Salvete

Salve! It's good to see a post from you!

> I preface:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/?yguid=160779752
> Group Information
> Members: 1022
> Category: Roman Empire (who put 'Empire'? We are a Republic!)

When mailing lists are created they have to be put into a category. I
imagine that when Marcus Cassius created this one, "Roman Empire" was
the best match he could find. Also, "Empire" and "Republic" are not
necessarily exclusive of each other. The Roman Republic of Antiquity
was an Empire from the end of the first Punic War, when Sicily became
the first Roman province.

Vale,

-- Marinus

Flavia Tullia Scholastica discessura Pontifici Lucio Equitio Cincinnato
Auguri quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> Salvete
>
> I preface:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/?yguid=160779752
> Group Information
> Members: 1022
> Category: Roman Empire (who put 'Empire'? We are a Republic!)
> Founded: Mar 13, 2002
> Language: English *

They don't list Latin (or Greek, etc.) as possible languages, though the
language of instruction in some of the Academia Latin courses is (surprise!)
Latin.

>
> Observation:
> It has been often the custom of this list to provide translations for text
> posted in languages other than English. Of course there are other lists, or
> Private email for those matters that are not intended for the general
> subscribers.
> It has been at least a generation where the benefits of a classical
> education has become a luxury to the average person, at least here in the
> 'States'. Indeed, I attended Catholic school as a child yet never had Latin,
> until I retired from the military and took it in college for a couple of
> years.

Now, we were just kidding each other about the weather in Rome at this
time of year, our sensitivity to heat, humidity, and sunburn, the presence
or absence of Europeans during August, when they all seem to disappear, the
financial difficulties and impossibilities for most American NR citizens to
go to Europe, and the joys of a quiet life in academia.

>
> Anyway, I'd like to go Rome as well, but I have other responsibilities.
> It would certainly be better there than the awful heat and humidity of
> Washington DC!

Could it be better in that furnace?

> OR cold and Rain :-(

Would you care for snow at the rate of four inches an hour for a good 24
or more hours?

>
> Valete, L Equitius

Vale, et valete,

Flavia Tullia Scholastica

> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:43:39 -0400
> From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>>
>> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
> ferre possumus...
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:41:14 +0100
> From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@...>
> Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>
> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est. Si autem multam
> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.
> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(
>
> Valete optime
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Flavia Scholastica
> Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>>
>> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
> ferre possumus...
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:12:31 -0000
> From: "publiusalbucius" <albucius_aoe@...>
> Subject: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty
>
> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
>
> S.V.G.E.R.
>
> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
> regnum umbrae compendiique !
>
> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
>
> Vale,
>
> P. Memmius Albucius
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:16:20 -0400
> From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pilato Barbato quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>>
>> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
>> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est.
>
> Ita'st, sane, praesertim inter magistros emeritos. Catoni nostro,
> autem, sat nummorum (quia non magister est).
>
>> Si autem multam
>> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.
>
> Ingentes gratias tibi agam...
>
>> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
>> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(
>
> Nolim autem solis exustionibus et ingenti calore mense Augusto in Italia
> laborare. Audivi quoque incolas Europae per mensem Augustum in feriis
> abesse--eruntne custodes vigilesque Romae? Baiuli mercenariae coqui?
>
> Fortasse anno proximo in patriam tuam iter facere possim. Societatibus
> aeronauticis autem plures nummos solvendos, et deversoriis, sed spero me
> illud iter perlongum facturam esse. Sine dubio, stagnum aestuosum quod
> inter nos iacet natare non possim.
>
>>
>> Valete optime
>>
>> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>>
> Et tu, et vos omnes!
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:38:45 -0400
> From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Publio Memmio Albucio S.P.D.
>
>> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
>>
>> S.V.G.E.R.
>>
>> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
>> regnum umbrae compendiique !
>>
> In Grege Latine Loquentium, scripsi beatitudines novas, quas inveniam et
> ad te mittam.
>
>> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
>> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
>> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
>>
> Cutis mea non tam patricia quam septentrionalis--et toleratio caloris
> similis. Capilli tui et oculi fusci autem, etiam paene nigri, te non omnino
> nec exustionibus nec calore protegent...
>
> Recte dicis de umbratili vita...
>
>> Vale,
>>
>> P. Memmius Albucius
>>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:03:32 +0100
> From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@...>
> Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae omnibusque salutem
> dicit.
>
> Imago nostrae audacis Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae contra validarum oceani
> aquarum potestatem pugnantis magnifica est sed pecunia adquisita melius
> credo illam officio vehiculi aeronautici fidere .
>
> Eheu! pecunia dictatoria tota vita est et maiores divitiae in posterum
> speratae numquam veniunt!
>
> Valete optime, omnes.
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Salve Quintus Lanius Paulinus

It sounds like an ambitious production. Reading the story synopsis had me seeing shades of "Gladiator" in it. I'm not familiar with any of the actors cast in the lead roles. Still, I'll watch if only to see ancient Rome recreated yet again.
One note - I found it slightly humorous to read that they used breast plates from the movies "Cleopatra" and "Ben-Hur." I had no idea Hollywood was into recycling! LOL
Who knew these things were still around? I'd have thought they had been auctioned off by now. They auction everything these days. Just observing.

Bene vale

Maxima Valeria Messallina


"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@...> wrote:
Salvete omnes,

Looks like there is another miniseries about Ancient Rome coming the
end of June. It is a work of fiction, don't know what to expect and
won't hold my breath yet but here are the details.

Quintus Lanius Paulinus




ABC Press Release

Wednesday, April 27, 2005


"EMPIRE," A SWEEPING, NEW SUMMER DRAMA SERIES, WILL PREMIERE JUNE 28
ON THE ABC TELEVISION NETWORK Released by ABC
"EMPIRE," A SWEEPING, NEW SUMMER DRAMA SERIES, WILL PREMIERE JUNE 28
ON THE ABC TELEVISION NETWORK

A Stellar International Cast Features Jonathan Cake and Santiago
Cabrera Trudie Styler Also Appears in the Lavish Six-Hour Series
"Empire," an epic six-hour summer drama series from the executive
producers of the Academy Award-winning "Chicago," will have a
special two-hour premiere, TUESDAY, JUNE 28 (9:00-11:00 p.m., ET),
on the ABC Television Network. The sweeping limited drama series,
filmed entirely in Rome and South Central Italy, focuses on Julius
Caesar's nephew, Octavius, who is forced into exile after Caesar's
murder, and a fictional disgraced gladiator, Tyrannus, who has sworn
to protect him.

The other four one-hour episodes are slated to air on successive
Tuesday nights, all from 10:00-11:00 p.m., ET.

"Empire" features a stellar international cast led by Jonathan Cake
("First Knight," Hallmark's "Noah's Ark") and Santiago Cabrera
("Haven"), with guest and recurring stars including Dennis Haysbert
("24") and Trudie Styler ("Friends," "Confessions of an Ugly
Stepsister"). It is one of the most lavish and technically complex
series ever to air on ABC in primetime. "Empire" is being executive-
produced by award-winning producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron
("Life with Judy Garland: Me and My Shadows," "The Beach Boys: An
American Family," "Brian's Song," ABC's "Annie," "Rodgers &
Hammerstein's Cinderella" and the Oscar-winning "Chicago"), multiple
award-winner Tony Jonas ("Queer as Folk," "Leap Years"), Chip
Johannessen ("24," "The X-Files,") and Thomas Wheeler ("The
Prometheus Project," "The Mission"), who is also the series creator.

The time is 44 B.C. and the Conqueror Julius Caesar (Colm
Feore, "Chicago," "And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself"; currently
seen as Cassius in "Julius Caesar" on Broadway) returns from
triumphs in Spain to a neglected Republic and a corrupt Senate drunk
with power. Though he's hailed as a hero by the masses, the Senate
is wary of Caesar's plans that might place him in a position of
ultimate power. Brutus (James Frain, "24," USA
Network's "Spartacus," "Arabian Nights") and Cassius (Michael
Maloney, Kenneth Branagh's "Hamlet," "Painted Lady") try to enlist
the help of Marc Antony (Vincent Regan, "Troy," "Joan of Arc") in
overthrowing Caesar, but Antony is loyal to Caesar and refuses. A
terrible conflict looms and the fate of an empire will fall to one
man - a gladiator named Tyrannus.

Tyrannus (Jonathan Cake), Rome's finest warrior, is undefeated in
the arena and considered a champion among men. A slave since he was
a young man, Tyrannus impresses Caesar with his fighting prowess and
his popularity, and with his dedication to Rome. Caesar offers him
freedom in return for his service and friendship. However the Senate
puts up a vicious fight for power and manages to separate Caesar
from Tyrannus' protective grasp by sending the gladiator to one last
match to the death. Cassius and Brutus have Tyrannus' son, Piso,
kidnapped. Tyrannus rushes to his son's rescue and kills the
kidnappers, only to realize that the abduction is a diversion. He
hurries to Caesar's side, but it is too late. His absence results in
Brutus successfully leading a group of conspirators in assassinating
the great conqueror. As he is drawing his last breath, Caesar swears
Tyrannus to an oath to protect his successor, Octavius (Santiago
Cabrera), his 18-year-old nephew.

Tyrannus and Octavius are forced into exile to protect the young man
from those who want to sever Caesar's bloodline once and for all.
They are joined by Agrippa (Chris Egan, upcoming feature film "Alpha
Male," Australian series "Home & Away"), a young soldier, and by
Camane (Emily Blunt, upcoming feature film "My Summer of
Love," "Warrior Queen"), a Vestal Virgin from the powerful religious
Order whose members are being hunted down for trying to save
Octavius. Together they will help Octavius fulfill his destiny. He
leaves Rome an impetuous boy, but will Octavius return as Emperor?

Production scoured south-central Italy for locations to represent
Caesar's Roman Republic, including the ancient roads of the Apian
Way, Aqua Appia, the 2,000-year-old aqueduct responsible for the
first running water, Romulus' Fourth Century tomb, the pine trees
and marketplaces of Ostia Antica and the beachside caves of Anzio, a
famous disembarkation point during World War II. The production
recreated a piazza/arena for the gladiator fights, the Forum,
including the Senate, piazza and various roads, and the interior of
Marc Antony's villa, which boasts 72,000 fake Roman bricks, 11,000
roofing tiles and 16,000 square feet of mosaic floor covering - all
on the 270-acre back lot at Cinecitta Studios, formerly Roma Studios
and, prior to that, the once famous Dino DeLaurentis Studios.

Over 6,000 yards of fabric were gathered from India, Germany and
Italy and painstakingly colored with 320 pounds of dye from fresh
herb extracts, replicating the process from ancient Roman times. The
small army of wardrobe and props personnel also provided 150 sets of
handmade women's jewelry, 700 pair of boots and sandals from Pompeii
and Tunisia and breast plates originally used in the productions
of "Cleopatra" and "Ben Hur."

Additionally, award-winning sword masters, husband-and-wife team Dan
Speaker and Jan Bryant ("Master and Commander: The Far Side of the
World," "Hidalgo," "Hook") took on the challenge of duplicating the
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Salvete omnes!

(I'd better put this in English as I blush .)

The heat of Rome or of Washington would be infinitely preferable to this
thick grey cloud, chilly south-west wind and drizzle that is England at the
moment. But please not four inches of snow. But then the English June has
always been very fickle: in 1975 on June 2nd, snow covered the whole country
(so much so that they actually abandoned a cricket match!) - and four days
later a heatwave began that lasted for weeks. Give me a stable climate any
time.

Sextus Pilatus Barbatus



_____

From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Flavia Scholastica
Sent: 02 June 2005 18:15
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 1946



Flavia Tullia Scholastica discessura Pontifici Lucio Equitio Cincinnato
Auguri quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.

> Salvete
>
> I preface:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/?yguid=160779752
> Group Information
> Members: 1022
> Category: Roman Empire (who put 'Empire'? We are a Republic!)
> Founded: Mar 13, 2002
> Language: English *

They don't list Latin (or Greek, etc.) as possible languages, though the
language of instruction in some of the Academia Latin courses is (surprise!)
Latin.

>
> Observation:
> It has been often the custom of this list to provide translations for text
> posted in languages other than English. Of course there are other lists,

or

> Private email for those matters that are not intended for the general
> subscribers.
> It has been at least a generation where the benefits of a classical
> education has become a luxury to the average person, at least here in the
> 'States'. Indeed, I attended Catholic school as a child yet never had

Latin,

> until I retired from the military and took it in college for a couple of
> years.

Now, we were just kidding each other about the weather in Rome at this
time of year, our sensitivity to heat, humidity, and sunburn, the presence
or absence of Europeans during August, when they all seem to disappear, the
financial difficulties and impossibilities for most American NR citizens to
go to Europe, and the joys of a quiet life in academia.

>
> Anyway, I'd like to go Rome as well, but I have other responsibilities.
> It would certainly be better there than the awful heat and humidity of
> Washington DC!

Could it be better in that furnace?

> OR cold and Rain :-(

Would you care for snow at the rate of four inches an hour for a good 24
or more hours?

>
> Valete, L Equitius

Vale, et valete,

Flavia Tullia Scholastica

> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:43:39 -0400
> From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>>
>> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
> ferre possumus...
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:41:14 +0100
> From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@...>
> Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>
> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est. Si autem multam
> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.
> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum Italiae
> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(
>
> Valete optime
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Flavia Scholastica
> Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO

BOOK

>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>>
>> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior quam nos
> ferre possumus...
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:12:31 -0000
> From: "publiusalbucius" <albucius_aoe@...>
> Subject: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty
>
> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
>
> S.V.G.E.R.
>
> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
> regnum umbrae compendiique !
>
> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
>
> Vale,
>
> P. Memmius Albucius
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:16:20 -0400
> From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pilato Barbato quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
>> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque dicit .
>>
>> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
>> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est.
>
> Ita'st, sane, praesertim inter magistros emeritos. Catoni nostro,
> autem, sat nummorum (quia non magister est).
>
>> Si autem multam
>> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire possis.
>
> Ingentes gratias tibi agam...
>
>> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum

Italiae

>> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(
>
> Nolim autem solis exustionibus et ingenti calore mense Augusto in Italia
> laborare. Audivi quoque incolas Europae per mensem Augustum in feriis
> abesse--eruntne custodes vigilesque Romae? Baiuli mercenariae coqui?
>
> Fortasse anno proximo in patriam tuam iter facere possim. Societatibus
> aeronauticis autem plures nummos solvendos, et deversoriis, sed spero me
> illud iter perlongum facturam esse. Sine dubio, stagnum aestuosum quod
> inter nos iacet natare non possim.
>
>>
>> Valete optime
>>
>> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>>
> Et tu, et vos omnes!
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:38:45 -0400
> From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica Publio Memmio Albucio S.P.D.
>
>> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
>>
>> S.V.G.E.R.
>>
>> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
>> regnum umbrae compendiique !
>>
> In Grege Latine Loquentium, scripsi beatitudines novas, quas inveniam et
> ad te mittam.
>
>> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
>> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
>> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
>>
> Cutis mea non tam patricia quam septentrionalis--et toleratio caloris
> similis. Capilli tui et oculi fusci autem, etiam paene nigri, te non

omnino

> nec exustionibus nec calore protegent...
>
> Recte dicis de umbratili vita...
>
>> Vale,
>>
>> P. Memmius Albucius
>>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:03:32 +0100
> From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@...>
> Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae omnibusque salutem
> dicit.
>
> Imago nostrae audacis Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae contra validarum oceani
> aquarum potestatem pugnantis magnifica est sed pecunia adquisita melius
> credo illam officio vehiculi aeronautici fidere .
>
> Eheu! pecunia dictatoria tota vita est et maiores divitiae in posterum
> speratae numquam veniunt!
>
> Valete optime, omnes.
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>
>
>
>

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>

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G. Equitius Cato F. Tulliae Scholasticae S. Pilato Barbato
quiritibusque S.P.D.

I'm not terribly worried about Rome in August; I live in New York
City, where in the summer even the rats crawl slowly because of the
oppressive heat and humidity. On the plus side, of course, there
tends to be a mass migration of New Yorkers out of the City to cooler
climes, so those of us who actually work for a living and must remain
in the City can move about more freely.

Valete bene,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Bird" <p.bird@n...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes!
>
> (I'd better put this in English as I blush .)
>
> The heat of Rome or of Washington would be infinitely preferable to this
> thick grey cloud, chilly south-west wind and drizzle that is England
at the
> moment. But please not four inches of snow. But then the English
June has
> always been very fickle: in 1975 on June 2nd, snow covered the whole
country
> (so much so that they actually abandoned a cricket match!) - and
four days
> later a heatwave began that lasted for weeks. Give me a stable
climate any
> time.
>
> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
> Of Flavia Scholastica
> Sent: 02 June 2005 18:15
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 1946
>
>
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica discessura Pontifici Lucio Equitio Cincinnato
> Auguri quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
> > Salvete
> >
> > I preface:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/?yguid=160779752
> > Group Information
> > Members: 1022
> > Category: Roman Empire (who put 'Empire'? We are a Republic!)
> > Founded: Mar 13, 2002
> > Language: English *
>
> They don't list Latin (or Greek, etc.) as possible languages,
though the
> language of instruction in some of the Academia Latin courses is
(surprise!)
> Latin.
> >
> > Observation:
> > It has been often the custom of this list to provide translations
for text
> > posted in languages other than English. Of course there are other
lists,
> or
> > Private email for those matters that are not intended for the general
> > subscribers.
> > It has been at least a generation where the benefits of a classical
> > education has become a luxury to the average person, at least here
in the
> > 'States'. Indeed, I attended Catholic school as a child yet never had
> Latin,
> > until I retired from the military and took it in college for a
couple of
> > years.
>
> Now, we were just kidding each other about the weather in Rome
at this
> time of year, our sensitivity to heat, humidity, and sunburn, the
presence
> or absence of Europeans during August, when they all seem to
disappear, the
> financial difficulties and impossibilities for most American NR
citizens to
> go to Europe, and the joys of a quiet life in academia.
>
> >
> > Anyway, I'd like to go Rome as well, but I have other
responsibilities.
> > It would certainly be better there than the awful heat and humidity of
> > Washington DC!
>
> Could it be better in that furnace?
>
> > OR cold and Rain :-(
>
> Would you care for snow at the rate of four inches an hour for a
good 24
> or more hours?
>
> >
> > Valete, L Equitius
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Flavia Tullia Scholastica
>
>
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:43:39 -0400
> > From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@l...>
> > Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
> >
> > Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> > peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
> >
> >> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
> >>
> >> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
> >
> > Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> > carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior
quam nos
> > ferre possumus...
> >
> > Vale, et valete,
> >
> > Flavia
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:41:14 +0100
> > From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@n...>
> > Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
> >
> > Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque
dicit .
> >
> > Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> > magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est. Si autem multam
> > pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire
possis.
> > Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum
Italiae
> > solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(
> >
> > Valete optime
> >
> > Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Flavia Scholastica
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 17:44
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO
> BOOK
> >
> > Flavia Tullia Scholastica Aulo Apollonio Cordo quiritibus, sociis,
> > peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
> >
> >> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
> >>
> >> Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
> >
> > Nos sumus pauperes; etiam si velimus, non possimus. Iter carum, adeo
> > carius quia aes non est. Praeterea, in aestate Italia calidior
quam nos
> > ferre possumus...
> >
> > Vale, et valete,
> >
> > Flavia
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:12:31 -0000
> > From: "publiusalbucius" <albucius_aoe@h...>
> > Subject: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty
> >
> > P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
> >
> > S.V.G.E.R.
> >
> > Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
> > regnum umbrae compendiique !
> >
> > Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
> > cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
> > umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > P. Memmius Albucius
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:16:20 -0400
> > From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@l...>
> > Subject: Re: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
> >
> > Flavia Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pilato Barbato quiritibus, sociis,
> > peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
> >
> >> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus salutem Flaviae Scholasticae omnibusque
dicit .
> >>
> >> Eheu! Pecunia deest? Sed es magistra . memoriae traditum est omnes
> >> magistros/as pauperes esse - pars rei pedagogicae est.
> >
> > Ita'st, sane, praesertim inter magistros emeritos. Catoni nostro,
> > autem, sat nummorum (quia non magister est).
> >
> >> Si autem multam
> >> pecuniam haberem tibi ingentem partem darem ut ad conventum ire
possis.
> >
> > Ingentes gratias tibi agam...
> >
> >> Miracula infeliciter in mea potestate absunt. Ego quoque pulchrum
> Italiae
> >> solem videre velim, sed pecunia . :-(
> >
> > Nolim autem solis exustionibus et ingenti calore mense Augusto in
Italia
> > laborare. Audivi quoque incolas Europae per mensem Augustum in feriis
> > abesse--eruntne custodes vigilesque Romae? Baiuli mercenariae coqui?
> >
> > Fortasse anno proximo in patriam tuam iter facere possim.
Societatibus
> > aeronauticis autem plures nummos solvendos, et deversoriis, sed
spero me
> > illud iter perlongum facturam esse. Sine dubio, stagnum aestuosum
quod
> > inter nos iacet natare non possim.
> >
> >>
> >> Valete optime
> >>
> >> Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
> >>
> > Et tu, et vos omnes!
> >
> > Flavia Tullia Scholastica
> >
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:38:45 -0400
> > From: Flavia Scholastica <fororom@l...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Conventus romanus, sun and poverty
> >
> > Flavia Tullia Scholastica Publio Memmio Albucio S.P.D.
> >
> >> P. Memmius Albucius Fl. Tulliae Scholasticae s.d.
> >>
> >> S.V.G.E.R.
> >>
> >> Beati(ae) pauperes melaninae sestertiumque quoniam ipso(-a)rum est
> >> regnum umbrae compendiique !
> >>
> > In Grege Latine Loquentium, scripsi beatitudines novas, quas
inveniam et
> > ad te mittam.
> >
> >> Sol romanus patriciis horribilis, vero verius est. Nunc gaudeo quod
> >> cutis plebeia mea ardorem Apollonis benigne accipit. Et multa ad
> >> umbratilem vitam invitamenta sunt... ;-)
> >>
> > Cutis mea non tam patricia quam septentrionalis--et toleratio caloris
> > similis. Capilli tui et oculi fusci autem, etiam paene nigri, te non
> omnino
> > nec exustionibus nec calore protegent...
> >
> > Recte dicis de umbratili vita...
> >
> >> Vale,
> >>
> >> P. Memmius Albucius
> >>
> > Vale, et valete,
> >
> > Flavia
> >
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:03:32 +0100
> > From: "Peter Bird" <p.bird@n...>
> > Subject: RE: Conventus, Nova Roma Rally - STILL 10 DAYS TO BOOK
> >
> > Sextus Pilatus Barbatus Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae omnibusque
salutem
> > dicit.
> >
> > Imago nostrae audacis Flaviae Tulliae Scholasticae contra
validarum oceani
> > aquarum potestatem pugnantis magnifica est sed pecunia adquisita
melius
> > credo illam officio vehiculi aeronautici fidere .
> >
> > Eheu! pecunia dictatoria tota vita est et maiores divitiae in posterum
> > speratae numquam veniunt!
> >
> > Valete optime, omnes.
> >
> > Sextus Pilatus Barbatus
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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AVETE OMNES

I remind you that Nova Roma organizes a great literary contest for
both citizens and non citizens, the Certamen Petronianum!
Entries for the Certamen Petronianum 2005 must be tales set in
ancient Rome, during the Republic. They must be written in English,
and have a maximum length of 3000 words.
The closing date for entries is 30th June 2005.
The final judges which will judge the five best works are Colleen
McCullough and Prof. Peter Wiseman.

You can find the contest rules and any information (including the
prize) at:
http://www.novaroma.org/certamen/index.htm

Don't miss this opportunity!

OPTIME VALETE
Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Aedilis Plebis

Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.

I was wondering if there are any other Nova Romans here who are also members
of Masonic Lodges? Any Masonic Romans?

Valete;

Gaius Modius Athanasius
Harmony #8 Urbana, Ohio


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Hi,

I've just created a fresh, new group about Ancient Egypt, focusing
primarily on the 18th Dynasty - particularly the Amarna Period. Its
therefore only just set up and needs some help to really get going.
All are welcome, wherever you are over the world, whether you have
just a casual interest in the era, or you are an expert of the
period. The group is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/horizonaten

Come and join us so we can have some vibrant and interesting
discussions. All views and opinions are respected, and we're hoping
to build a warm community.

Kind regards,
Danny Bird!
Owner of 'Horizon of the Aten'
Co-Consul of the Avis-Pirum Network


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Salvete omnes,


How about setting up some sort of nova roman quality lablel for Roman
empire-related websites? We could
screen the websites (such as www.roman-empire.com, which has got a
great reputation and a lot of information and visitors) and give them
a nova roman quality lable. This would, I think, increase the
visibility of nova roma (with a link to the nova roman homepage on the
selected websites and a label of some sort which would include our
flag) and would also be helpful to our citizens who look after
information about Roman culture and history (by providing them an
extensive database of valueble websites)

vale

Publius Minius Mercator

PS: I posted this message on the mailing list of Sodalitas Egressus
but got no responce what so ever...

Q. Caecilius Metellus Chari omnibusque salutem dicit.

> Another is less obvious: everyone with the same nomen
> and cognomen (second and third name) belongs to the
> same family, and that family is not likely to be
> pleased if you decide to adopt their nomen and
> cognomen if you're not a member of the family. So if
> you do want a Roman name, it would be polite to make
> sure it's not the same name as anyone else has.

... or just ask the person. If you ever do consider citizenship, it might help
in the process, to some extents.

Vos Valeatis.

Q. Metellus salutem.

(I had sent this approximately twelve hours ago, and it has not yet
appeared, so I apologize for double posting, if that comes to be the case.)

Where exactly shall I begin? It seems that my not being appointed to the
position to which Flavia Tullia has been has upset at least one among us. I
can understand that, and seeing the questions which sprang from it, I
understand it even more.

I volunteered for the position in light of the fact that the previous
interpreter had been removed, and that we were at the time without, so far
as I knew, anyone else willing to take on the duties. Then the agenda for
this recent Senate vote was published, and I became aware that there indeed
was someone else willing, and in fact more competent than I, to take the
job. So I wrote to Consul Laenas asking to be removed from the agenda, but
it was his colleague who called the Senate, and in any case, the ball may
have been rolling too fast for him to have stopped it anyway. As far as I'm
concerned, Nova Roma should have the better translator, and I think She got
just that in Flavia Tullia.

I agree, naturally, that the Lex Cornelia needs some clarification. In
fact, I'm not so sure the number of interpreters should be limited to ten
(or even at all, though at this point the limit may not be inappropriate).
But for now, at least in the interest of peace, let us all just enjoy that
there are people willing to do the job. As for who is right for it, I've
expressed my opinion, and the Senate has expressed its; for now, let it all
rest at that.

Valete,

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus

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Q. Caecilius Metellus Chari omnibusque salutem dicit.

> Another is less obvious: everyone with the same nomen
> and cognomen (second and third name) belongs to the
> same family, and that family is not likely to be
> pleased if you decide to adopt their nomen and
> cognomen if you're not a member of the family. So if
> you do want a Roman name, it would be polite to make
> sure it's not the same name as anyone else has.

... or just ask the person. If you ever do consider citizenship, it might
help in the process, to some extents.

Vos Valeatis.

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A. Apollonius Julillae Semproniae amicae omnibusque
sal.

> Nothing would please me more than seeing the Eternal
> City again;
> however, my son will deploy to Iraq in August and I
> must remain home
> in anticipation of his leave before he goes. *sigh*
> I'll be a wreck
> anyway, before and after.
>
> Nobody desires peace more than a soldier... and a
> soldier's mater!

Bella matribus detestata indeed; my best wishes to you
and your son both, and I hope he comes home soon and
safe. No doubt we'll see one another at one or other
get-together eventually.



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A. Apollonius Sex. Pilato omnibusque sal.

> (I'd better put this in English as I blush .)

Latine loqui ne te pudeat! Si aliquis non intellegat,
linguae Latinae studeat. ;)





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F. Galerius Aurelianus G. Modio Anthanasio. Salve.

You know that I am a brother, Brother.

Corinthian Lodge No. 414, F & A M, Tennessee


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So far I know about three of us!

I wonder if there are anymore?

Fraternally;

Gaius Modius Athanasius

In a message dated 6/3/2005 8:37:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@... writes:

F. Galerius Aurelianus G. Modio Anthanasio. Salve.

You know that I am a brother, Brother.

Corinthian Lodge No. 414, F & A M, Tennessee





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I for one appreciate what your son is doing, I salute
him and will ask Iset to keep an eye on him and his
unit. SUA SPONTE!
--- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<a_apollonius_cordus@...> wrote:

> A. Apollonius Julillae Semproniae amicae omnibusque
> sal.
>
> > Nothing would please me more than seeing the

Eternal

> > City again;
> > however, my son will deploy to Iraq in August and

I

> > must remain home
> > in anticipation of his leave before he goes.

*sigh*

> > I'll be a wreck
> > anyway, before and after.
> >
> > Nobody desires peace more than a soldier... and a
> > soldier's mater!
>
> Bella matribus detestata indeed; my best wishes to

you

> and your son both, and I hope he comes home soon and
> safe. No doubt we'll see one another at one or other
> get-together eventually.
>
>
>
>

___________________________________________________________

> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your

holiday

> snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos

http://uk.photos.yahoo.com


S P Q R

Fidelis Ad Mortem.

Marcvs Flavivs Fides
Roman Citizen





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I always wanted to be a Mason. Any suggestions,
amicae?
--- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<AthanasiosofSpfd@...> wrote:

>
> So far I know about three of us!
>
> I wonder if there are anymore?
>
> Fraternally;
>
> Gaius Modius Athanasius
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2005 8:37:54 P.M. Eastern

Standard Time,

> PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@... writes:
>
> F. Galerius Aurelianus G. Modio Anthanasio. Salve.
>
> You know that I am a brother, Brother.
>
> Corinthian Lodge No. 414, F & A M, Tennessee
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>

S P Q R

Fidelis Ad Mortem.

Marcvs Flavivs Fides
Roman Citizen





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Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.

The first step would be to contact any Masons that you know locally. They
would be the most logical ones to sign your petition to join a lodge. If you
do not know any local Masons I would contact your local lodge, and simply
tell them you are interested in joining. They will then most likely have people
meet with you and they will advise you further. Each State/Grand Lodge is
potentially a little different.

Let me know if I can help.

Gaius Modius Athanasius



In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:21:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
praefectus2324@... writes:

I always wanted to be a Mason. Any suggestions,
amicae?





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Finding a lodge in the NYC area would be the first
step, if you know of any please advise. Multas
Gratias.
--- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<AthanasiosofSpfd@...> wrote:

>
> Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.
>
> The first step would be to contact any Masons that

you know locally. They

> would be the most logical ones to sign your petition

to join a lodge. If you

> do not know any local Masons I would contact your

local lodge, and simply

> tell them you are interested in joining. They will

then most likely have people

> meet with you and they will advise you further.

Each State/Grand Lodge is

> potentially a little different.
>
> Let me know if I can help.
>
> Gaius Modius Athanasius
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:21:29 P.M. Eastern

Standard Time,

> praefectus2324@... writes:
>
> I always wanted to be a Mason. Any suggestions,
> amicae?
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>

S P Q R

Fidelis Ad Mortem.

Marcvs Flavivs Fides
Roman Citizen





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Salve,

This should be a good start:

http://www.nymasons.org/locator.php

I'm not a Mason, but my father, Sextus Vitellius Scaurus, was raised
in:

Mountain Star Lodge, No. 197
Sevierville, TN





--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes
<praefectus2324@y...> wrote:

> Finding a lodge in the NYC area would be the first
> step, if you know of any please advise. Multas
> Gratias.
> --- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <AthanasiosofSpfd@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.
> >
> > The first step would be to contact any Masons that
> you know locally. They
> > would be the most logical ones to sign your petition
> to join a lodge. If you
> > do not know any local Masons I would contact your
> local lodge, and simply
> > tell them you are interested in joining. They will
> then most likely have people
> > meet with you and they will advise you further.
> Each State/Grand Lodge is
> > potentially a little different.
> >
> > Let me know if I can help.
> >
> > Gaius Modius Athanasius
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:21:29 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > praefectus2324@y... writes:
> >
> > I always wanted to be a Mason. Any suggestions,
> > amicae?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>
>
> S P Q R
>
> Fidelis Ad Mortem.
>
> Marcvs Flavivs Fides
> Roman Citizen
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Discover Yahoo!
> Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it

out!

> http://discover.yahoo.com/

Thank You, kindly.
--- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<lucius_vitellius_triarius@...> wrote:

> Salve,
>
> This should be a good start:
>
> http://www.nymasons.org/locator.php
>
> I'm not a Mason, but my father, Sextus Vitellius

Scaurus, was raised

> in:
>
> Mountain Star Lodge, No. 197
> Sevierville, TN
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes
> <praefectus2324@y...> wrote:
> > Finding a lodge in the NYC area would be the first
> > step, if you know of any please advise. Multas
> > Gratias.
> > --- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <AthanasiosofSpfd@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gaius Modius Athanasius S.P.D.
> > >
> > > The first step would be to contact any Masons

that

> > you know locally. They
> > > would be the most logical ones to sign your

petition

> > to join a lodge. If you
> > > do not know any local Masons I would contact

your

> > local lodge, and simply
> > > tell them you are interested in joining. They

will

> > then most likely have people
> > > meet with you and they will advise you further.
> > Each State/Grand Lodge is
> > > potentially a little different.
> > >
> > > Let me know if I can help.
> > >
> > > Gaius Modius Athanasius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:21:29 P.M.

Eastern

> > Standard Time,
> > > praefectus2324@y... writes:
> > >
> > > I always wanted to be a Mason. Any suggestions,
> > > amicae?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> > S P Q R
> >
> > Fidelis Ad Mortem.
> >
> > Marcvs Flavivs Fides
> > Roman Citizen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Discover Yahoo!
> > Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and

more. Check it

> out!
> > http://discover.yahoo.com/
>
>

S P Q R

Fidelis Ad Mortem.

Marcvs Flavivs Fides
Roman Citizen





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Salvete Fellow Romans (Emailists and Forumanians alike),

I must agree that forums are better suited for smaller groups in
general, however, larger groups can use forums as well...this is, if
subject categorization is important.

As far as the ML goes, I think we may be missing the main point here.
The ML is a chronological record of the new Roman Forum...as it
is "spoken" by each civis. The current format is a "recording" of the
Forum as it happens, without reference to specific topics.

It is a living conversation experience intended to represent a large,
public square with marble statues, steps, temples, public buildings,
fountains, discount oracle booths, and hordes of Novaromani cives
squabbling and bickering about the politicial, social, economic,
scientific, military, humorous, historical and artsy topics of our
day in the Res Publica.

By using a forum format, we turn the living conversation record into
a "newspaper," where we can read about the events of the Res Publica
over morning coffee and a large bowl of fruit...instead of getting up
out of our beds, putting on our togas, and virtually marching our
happy butts down to the center of town to find out what's happening
in the world in person.

It is not an argument over means of electronic delivery, but a means
of historical record as it occurs.

One idea would be to post to both...that is if one had time.
Personally, I viewed the test site and found it rather interesting
and easy to use. It is neat, compact and everything is on one page.
For lists with lower volumes, such as regional groupings, this would
probably be okay...if people don't forget to go to it. As for myself,
I am a member of a large amount of groups that range from low to high
volume. When I read my email, sometimes I open emails from low-volume
lists I forgot I was a member of, thus, email is good and I prefer it
over forums. But, for those who prefer to use forums, let them post
to one, but let's keep the main lists the way they are.

Valete,
Triarius



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caius Curius Saturninus
<c.curius@a...> wrote:

> Salvete omnes,
>
> With this age-old discussion about mailing-list vs. bulletin board,
> Cordus expressed the exact point of view of mine, so I'll just

repreat

> his words here:
>
> > I do not want to go to a website to read messages - I
> > like having them e-mailed to me. I do not want to read
> > messages grouped by subject title - I want to read
> > them all in the order they were written. I do not want
> > to look only at some things and not at others -
> > everything interests me.
>
> And just add that currently I'm member of couple of other community
> which use the exactly same bulletin board software as the test one

set

> up. And what I have noticed is that at the community which has over
> 1700 registered members who have posted 60700 articles, it is
> impossible to find easily anything older than few days old

messages.

> And I _have to_ daily log in there if I want to keep up with the
> discussions. On the other hand the other community which has only

some

> tens of users who post very irregularly but always on topic and
> important messages, I still have to log in every single day to

check if

> there has been something that interests me, even while there is
> actually only a couple of messages per week which in the concern or
> interest me.
>
> Campared with the experience of Yahoo Groups I have, I can say that

for

> me Yahoo Groups is many times better solution. If there is

important

> debate I really have to read, I can check the website, otherwise

I'll

> just take a look to the digest. Or in some lists answer individual
> emails or at some lists only occasionally read them from web

interface.

> And anytime I need to check something, I'll just click the folder

where

> I have archived each mailing list and type in the search-field of
> Apple's Mail application the word to be searched and get _fast and
> reliable_ serach results even when I don't have Internet connection

at

> the moment. I spend a lot of time sitting at the train or at the
> university libraries or cafe and these are _the_ times when I can

do my

> NR work, but I don't have there an Internet-connection. But that's

no

> problem because everything is ready at my iBook's harddrive just
> waiting when I have time for it!
>
> As Yahoo Groups can be used pretty much like bulletin boards, but
> offers a lot more for those who like email-lists or mix usage of

both

> types, then I really cannot see how change into more limited
> communication method would benefit the NR community in general.
>
> Valete,
>
> Caius Curius Saturninus
>
> Tribunus Plebis
> Propraetor Provinciae Thules
> Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
>
> e-mail: c.curius@a...
> www.academiathules.org
> gsm: +358-50-3315279
> fax: +358-9-8754751

Salve;

The website for the Grand Lodge of New York is:

_http://www.nymasons.org/_ (http://www.nymasons.org/)

Info on How to become a Mason in NY:

_http://www.nymasons.org/index.php?c=join&s=join_
(http://www.nymasons.org/index.php?c=join&s=join)

Lodge Locator for NYC:

_http://www.nymasons.org/locator.php?a=2_
(http://www.nymasons.org/locator.php?a=2)

Hope that helps!

Vale;

Gaius Modius Athanasius

In a message dated 6/3/2005 10:34:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
praefectus2324@... writes:

Finding a lodge in the NYC area would be the first
step, if you know of any please advise. Multas
Gratias.





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Salvete omnes,

since I just recently got full citizenship I haven't payed my taxes
yet. Do I have to pay the fine if I want to pay my taxes now?

vale

Publius Minius Mercator

PS: any thoughts on my post about the Nova Roma quality label?

Hello!
I'd just like to present myself as a new member of this mailing list. I'm a Swedish woman of 40 years,married and have two sons,living in Stockholm. I have always been interested in history and found the Roman civilization at the age of 12, and since then I have studied and collected some extent of a knowledge of the ancient world and all its link to our days. I collect books on antiquity and related topics and is also fond of languages.I work as an archivist.

With best regards,
Karolina

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M•CALIDIVS•GRACCHVS•I•SEMPRONIƕMAGNƕS•P•D

AVE,

TV-NE VALES? VBI SVNT BRITANNI?

I am sure that I speak for many CIVES when I say that I wish your son
a safe journey to and from Iraq, DEI GRATIA.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of this terrible war, there is no love
like amother's love or worry like a mother's worry. As Horace said,
"BELLA DETESTA MATRIBVS - Wars, the horror of mothers."

DVM NOS FATA SINVNT OCVLOS SATIEMVS AMORE ---(PROPERTIVS,ii,15,23)

DEVS VOBISCVM,

VALE

GRACCHVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Julilla Sempronia Magna"
<curatrix@v...> wrote:

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
> <a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
> > A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
> >
> > Hem, ubi sunt Americani? Num Cato solum nos visitare vult?
>
> Nothing would please me more than seeing the Eternal City again;
> however, my son will deploy to Iraq in August and I must remain home
> in anticipation of his leave before he goes. *sigh* I'll be a wreck
> anyway, before and after.
>
> Nobody desires peace more than a soldier... and a soldier's mater!
>
> --
> Julilla Sempronia Magna

Salve Publi Mini,

publiusminius wrote:

> since I just recently got full citizenship I haven't payed my taxes
> yet. Do I have to pay the fine if I want to pay my taxes now?

By full citizenship you mean that you've obtained the iura publica
because you passed the test and you've been in Nova Roma for 90 days,
right? The Senate has not made any definite statement concerning
exemptions from the penalty in your situation. In the past new citizens
who joined after the tax deadline (30 April) have been given a waiver of
the penalty during their first calendar year of citizenship.

Vale,

-- Marinus

Welcome Karolina!

Karolina wrote:

> Hello!
> I'd just like to present myself as a new member of this mailing list.

I hope you find it useful.

> I'm a Swedish woman of 40 years,married and have two sons,living in
> Stockholm.

We have a number of active Nova Romans in Scandanavia. I hope a few of
them will introduce themselves to you.

Gn. Equitius Marinus

Salvete,

I must admit that I am not a frequent poster here or on my other
lists, but that has more to do with time than any other reason. I was
wondering if there is any mechanism in NR to gauge the sentiment of
the citizens? What I mean is polls, studies, reports, anything in
depth to see what people think of various issues, how people come, why
some leave, how they participate in the community, religious
affiliation, what people expect for the short and medium term future,
etc. I know there is a biennial census, but more information would be
useful for NR to improve in the future.

I was hesistant to post this in the forum earlier (like many people I
know that only remain on the sides) because of getting quickly shot
down, but recently in the last few months there hasnt been so many
posts. And for the people to say that polls or this type of research
wasnt used in roman times, I have to say that yahoo groups wasnt used
either. The last thing I would like to do, though, is to start a flame
war.

Valete,
D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus

salve,
I concur. we should do just that.

Tiberius Numerius Felix

>From: "publiusminius" <groentje123@...>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma quality label
>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:13:14 -0000
>
>Salvete omnes,
>
>
>How about setting up some sort of nova roman quality lablel for Roman
>empire-related websites? We could
>screen the websites (such as www.roman-empire.com, which has got a
>great reputation and a lot of information and visitors) and give them
>a nova roman quality lable. This would, I think, increase the
>visibility of nova roma (with a link to the nova roman homepage on the
>selected websites and a label of some sort which would include our
>flag) and would also be helpful to our citizens who look after
>information about Roman culture and history (by providing them an
>extensive database of valueble websites)
>
>vale
>
>Publius Minius Mercator
>
>PS: I posted this message on the mailing list of Sodalitas Egressus
>but got no responce what so ever...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Salve Aquilius Germanicus et salvete omnes.

THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD AND --- just kidding,
sorry :-)

The idea of polling the citizenry in regards to any particular
question has risen before. The main drawback is that this List, the
public Forum of Nova Roma, is populated not only by her citizens but
also simple watchers, listeners, and interested "others"; because this
is so, it would be impossible to truly accurately gauge the opinion of
the citizens alone based on the response to a poll. On top of this,
someone interested in swaying the answer to any given poll could,
possibly, sign up under multiple names and simply vote "early and
often", as the saying goes.

So, it certainly is not a stupid idea; on the contrary, I wishj it
were possible. But without more control over the polling process
(which we cannot get, as we are subject to Yahoo!'s set processes), it
is an impractical one.

Vale et valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "albmd323232" <albmd32@h...> wrote:
> Salvete,
>
> I must admit that I am not a frequent poster here or on my other
> lists, but that has more to do with time than any other reason. I was
> wondering if there is any mechanism in NR to gauge the sentiment of
> the citizens? What I mean is polls, studies, reports, anything in
> depth to see what people think of various issues, how people come, why
> some leave, how they participate in the community, religious
> affiliation, what people expect for the short and medium term future,
> etc. I know there is a biennial census, but more information would be
> useful for NR to improve in the future.
>
> I was hesistant to post this in the forum earlier (like many people I
> know that only remain on the sides) because of getting quickly shot
> down, but recently in the last few months there hasnt been so many
> posts. And for the people to say that polls or this type of research
> wasnt used in roman times, I have to say that yahoo groups wasnt used
> either. The last thing I would like to do, though, is to start a flame
> war.
>
> Valete,
> D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus

Salve Romans

If you look at the bottom of the main Nova Roma web page you will see this.

"This Nova Roma Web Ring<http://www.novaroma.org/> site is owned by Nova Roma<http://www.novaroma.org/>."

It seems that we do have our own label but I don't know how active it is or who is responsible for updating it and the links.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message -----
From: Tiberius Numerius Felix<mailto:tiberiusnumeriusfelix@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma quality label


salve,
I concur. we should do just that.

Tiberius Numerius Felix

>From: "publiusminius" <groentje123@...<mailto:groentje123@...>>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma quality label
>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:13:14 -0000
>
>Salvete omnes,
>
>
>How about setting up some sort of nova roman quality lablel for Roman
>empire-related websites? We could
>screen the websites (such as www.roman-empire.com, which has got a
>great reputation and a lot of information and visitors) and give them
>a nova roman quality lable. This would, I think, increase the
>visibility of nova roma (with a link to the nova roman homepage on the
>selected websites and a label of some sort which would include our
>flag) and would also be helpful to our citizens who look after
>information about Roman culture and history (by providing them an
>extensive database of valueble websites)
>
>vale
>
>Publius Minius Mercator
>
>PS: I posted this message on the mailing list of Sodalitas Egressus
>but got no responce what so ever...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Salvete omnes,

perhaps the solution would be to set up a polling system on the main
website, where only citizens would be able to log in...


valete

P. Minius Mercator

ps: I find it a very interesting proposal and if we can implement I
will be sure to use it!

On 6/4/05, gaiusequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
> G. Equitius Cato D. Claudio Aquilio Germanico quiritibusque S.P.D.
>
> Salve Aquilius Germanicus et salvete omnes.
>
> THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD AND --- just kidding,
> sorry :-)
>
> The idea of polling the citizenry in regards to any particular
> question has risen before. The main drawback is that this List, the
> public Forum of Nova Roma, is populated not only by her citizens but
> also simple watchers, listeners, and interested "others"; because this
> is so, it would be impossible to truly accurately gauge the opinion of
> the citizens alone based on the response to a poll. On top of this,
> someone interested in swaying the answer to any given poll could,
> possibly, sign up under multiple names and simply vote "early and
> often", as the saying goes.
>
> So, it certainly is not a stupid idea; on the contrary, I wishj it
> were possible. But without more control over the polling process
> (which we cannot get, as we are subject to Yahoo!'s set processes), it
> is an impractical one.
>
> Vale et valete,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "albmd323232" <albmd32@h...> wrote:
> > Salvete,
> >
> > I must admit that I am not a frequent poster here or on my other
> > lists, but that has more to do with time than any other reason. I was
> > wondering if there is any mechanism in NR to gauge the sentiment of
> > the citizens? What I mean is polls, studies, reports, anything in
> > depth to see what people think of various issues, how people come, why
> > some leave, how they participate in the community, religious
> > affiliation, what people expect for the short and medium term future,
> > etc. I know there is a biennial census, but more information would be
> > useful for NR to improve in the future.
> >
> > I was hesistant to post this in the forum earlier (like many people I
> > know that only remain on the sides) because of getting quickly shot
> > down, but recently in the last few months there hasnt been so many
> > posts. And for the people to say that polls or this type of research
> > wasnt used in roman times, I have to say that yahoo groups wasnt used
> > either. The last thing I would like to do, though, is to start a flame
> > war.
> >
> > Valete,
> > D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus
>
>
>
>
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Salve,

A webring is a nice tool but I don't really interpret it as a quality
label and I don't think visitors see it as one neither...

vale

P. Minius Mercator

On 6/4/05, Timothy P. Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:
> Salve Romans
>
> If you look at the bottom of the main Nova Roma web page you will see this.
>
> "This Nova Roma Web Ring<http://www.novaroma.org/> site is owned by Nova
> Roma<http://www.novaroma.org/>."
>
> It seems that we do have our own label but I don't know how active it is
> or who is responsible for updating it and the links.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tiberius Numerius
> Felix<mailto:tiberiusnumeriusfelix@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:48 AM
> Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma quality label
>
>
> salve,
> I concur. we should do just that.
>
> Tiberius Numerius Felix
>
> >From: "publiusminius"
> <groentje123@...<mailto:groentje123@...>>
> >Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> >To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma quality label
> >Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:13:14 -0000
> >
> >Salvete omnes,
> >
> >
> >How about setting up some sort of nova roman quality lablel for Roman
> >empire-related websites? We could
> >screen the websites (such as www.roman-empire.com, which has got a
> >great reputation and a lot of information and visitors) and give them
> >a nova roman quality lable. This would, I think, increase the
> >visibility of nova roma (with a link to the nova roman homepage on the
> >selected websites and a label of some sort which would include our
> >flag) and would also be helpful to our citizens who look after
> >information about Roman culture and history (by providing them an
> >extensive database of valueble websites)
> >
> >vale
> >
> >Publius Minius Mercator
> >
> >PS: I posted this message on the mailing list of Sodalitas Egressus
> >but got no responce what so ever...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.

Salvete omnes.

Or, perhaps it might be possible to allow "poll questions" to be
attached to any other votes put before the Comitia; the person
requesting the poll could contact the appropriate magistrate and have
the question added to the voting site; only citizens can vote, so only
citizens would be able to answer the poll...

Valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Publius <groentje123@g...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes,
>
> perhaps the solution would be to set up a polling system on the main
> website, where only citizens would be able to log in...
>
>
> valete
>
> P. Minius Mercator
>
> ps: I find it a very interesting proposal and if we can implement I
> will be sure to use it!
>
> On 6/4/05, gaiusequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@y...> wrote:
> > G. Equitius Cato D. Claudio Aquilio Germanico quiritibusque S.P.D.
> >
> > Salve Aquilius Germanicus et salvete omnes.
> >
> > THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD AND --- just kidding,
> > sorry :-)
> >
> > The idea of polling the citizenry in regards to any particular
> > question has risen before. The main drawback is that this List, the
> > public Forum of Nova Roma, is populated not only by her citizens but
> > also simple watchers, listeners, and interested "others"; because
this
> > is so, it would be impossible to truly accurately gauge the
opinion of
> > the citizens alone based on the response to a poll. On top of this,
> > someone interested in swaying the answer to any given poll could,
> > possibly, sign up under multiple names and simply vote "early and
> > often", as the saying goes.
> >
> > So, it certainly is not a stupid idea; on the contrary, I wishj it
> > were possible. But without more control over the polling process
> > (which we cannot get, as we are subject to Yahoo!'s set
processes), it
> > is an impractical one.
> >
> > Vale et valete,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "albmd323232" <albmd32@h...> wrote:
> > > Salvete,
> > >
> > > I must admit that I am not a frequent poster here or on my other
> > > lists, but that has more to do with time than any other reason.
I was
> > > wondering if there is any mechanism in NR to gauge the
sentiment of
> > > the citizens? What I mean is polls, studies, reports, anything in
> > > depth to see what people think of various issues, how people
come, why
> > > some leave, how they participate in the community, religious
> > > affiliation, what people expect for the short and medium term
future,
> > > etc. I know there is a biennial census, but more information
would be
> > > useful for NR to improve in the future.
> > >
> > > I was hesistant to post this in the forum earlier (like many
people I
> > > know that only remain on the sides) because of getting quickly
shot
> > > down, but recently in the last few months there hasnt been so many
> > > posts. And for the people to say that polls or this type of
research
> > > wasnt used in roman times, I have to say that yahoo groups
wasnt used
> > > either. The last thing I would like to do, though, is to start
a flame
> > > war.
> > >
> > > Valete,
> > > D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/
> >
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> > Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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P. Memmius Albucius s.d.

S.V.G.E.R.


Sincere welcome to you Karolina ! I hope that you will find among us
every point that feed your interest in roman civilisation and that we
will be able to meet soon.

Vale.

P. Memmius Albucius
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Lugdunensis Galliae

Salvete omnes,

Or, cives could email the Senators of their Regio and express their
opinions & concerns and/or lobby a particular cause, whereby the
Senators would initiate legislation to be voted on or issue posts
relating the majority opinions, attitudes, wishes and concerns of the
cives in their Regio...

Valete,
Triarius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiusequitiuscato" <mlcinnyc@y...>
wrote:

> G. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.
>
> Salvete omnes.
>
> Or, perhaps it might be possible to allow "poll questions" to be
> attached to any other votes put before the Comitia; the person
> requesting the poll could contact the appropriate magistrate and

have

> the question added to the voting site; only citizens can vote, so

only

> citizens would be able to answer the poll...
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Publius <groentje123@g...> wrote:
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > perhaps the solution would be to set up a polling system on the

main

> > website, where only citizens would be able to log in...
> >
> >
> > valete
> >
> > P. Minius Mercator
> >
> > ps: I find it a very interesting proposal and if we can implement

I

> > will be sure to use it!
> >
> > On 6/4/05, gaiusequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@y...> wrote:
> > > G. Equitius Cato D. Claudio Aquilio Germanico quiritibusque

S.P.D.

> > >
> > > Salve Aquilius Germanicus et salvete omnes.
> > >
> > > THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD AND --- just

kidding,

> > > sorry :-)
> > >
> > > The idea of polling the citizenry in regards to any particular
> > > question has risen before. The main drawback is that this

List, the

> > > public Forum of Nova Roma, is populated not only by her

citizens but

> > > also simple watchers, listeners, and interested "others";

because

> this
> > > is so, it would be impossible to truly accurately gauge the
> opinion of
> > > the citizens alone based on the response to a poll. On top of

this,

> > > someone interested in swaying the answer to any given poll

could,

> > > possibly, sign up under multiple names and simply vote "early

and

> > > often", as the saying goes.
> > >
> > > So, it certainly is not a stupid idea; on the contrary, I

wishj it

> > > were possible. But without more control over the polling

process

> > > (which we cannot get, as we are subject to Yahoo!'s set
> processes), it
> > > is an impractical one.
> > >
> > > Vale et valete,
> > >
> > > Cato
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "albmd323232" <albmd32@h...>

wrote:

> > > > Salvete,
> > > >
> > > > I must admit that I am not a frequent poster here or on my

other

> > > > lists, but that has more to do with time than any other

reason.

> I was
> > > > wondering if there is any mechanism in NR to gauge the
> sentiment of
> > > > the citizens? What I mean is polls, studies, reports,

anything in

> > > > depth to see what people think of various issues, how people
> come, why
> > > > some leave, how they participate in the community, religious
> > > > affiliation, what people expect for the short and medium term
> future,
> > > > etc. I know there is a biennial census, but more information
> would be
> > > > useful for NR to improve in the future.
> > > >
> > > > I was hesistant to post this in the forum earlier (like many
> people I
> > > > know that only remain on the sides) because of getting

quickly

> shot
> > > > down, but recently in the last few months there hasnt been

so many

> > > > posts. And for the people to say that polls or this type of
> research
> > > > wasnt used in roman times, I have to say that yahoo groups
> wasnt used
> > > > either. The last thing I would like to do, though, is to

start

> a flame
> > > > war.
> > > >
> > > > Valete,
> > > > D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of

Service.

Weve had polls in the past, what happened?
--- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <groentje123@...>
wrote:

> Salvete omnes,
>
> perhaps the solution would be to set up a polling

system on the main

> website, where only citizens would be able to log

in...

>
>
> valete
>
> P. Minius Mercator
>
> ps: I find it a very interesting proposal and if we

can implement I

> will be sure to use it!
>
> On 6/4/05, gaiusequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@...>

wrote:

> > G. Equitius Cato D. Claudio Aquilio Germanico

quiritibusque S.P.D.

> >
> > Salve Aquilius Germanicus et salvete omnes.
> >
> > THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD AND

--- just kidding,

> > sorry :-)
> >
> > The idea of polling the citizenry in regards to

any particular

> > question has risen before. The main drawback is

that this List, the

> > public Forum of Nova Roma, is populated not only

by her citizens but

> > also simple watchers, listeners, and interested

"others"; because this

> > is so, it would be impossible to truly accurately

gauge the opinion of

> > the citizens alone based on the response to a

poll. On top of this,

> > someone interested in swaying the answer to any

given poll could,

> > possibly, sign up under multiple names and simply

vote "early and

> > often", as the saying goes.
> >
> > So, it certainly is not a stupid idea; on the

contrary, I wishj it

> > were possible. But without more control over the

polling process

> > (which we cannot get, as we are subject to

Yahoo!'s set processes), it

> > is an impractical one.
> >
> > Vale et valete,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "albmd323232"

<albmd32@h...> wrote:

> > > Salvete,
> > >
> > > I must admit that I am not a frequent poster

here or on my other

> > > lists, but that has more to do with time than

any other reason. I was

>
> > > wondering if there is any mechanism in NR to

gauge the sentiment of

> > > the citizens? What I mean is polls, studies,

reports, anything in

> > > depth to see what people think of various

issues, how people come, why

>
> > > some leave, how they participate in the

community, religious

> > > affiliation, what people expect for the short

and medium term future,

>
> > > etc. I know there is a biennial census, but

more information would be

>
> > > useful for NR to improve in the future.
> > >
> > > I was hesistant to post this in the forum

earlier (like many people I

>
> > > know that only remain on the sides) because of

getting quickly shot

> > > down, but recently in the last few months there

hasnt been so many

> > > posts. And for the people to say that polls or

this type of research

> > > wasnt used in roman times, I have to say that

yahoo groups wasnt used

>
> > > either. The last thing I would like to do,

though, is to start a flame

>
> > > war.
> > >
> > > Valete,
> > > D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >

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