Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Nov 26-30, 2005

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39872 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: a.d. VI Kal. Dec.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39873 From: P. Minucia Tiberia Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39874 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: On C. Equitius Cato, candidate for Curule Aedile
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39875 From: P. Minucia Tiberia Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Clarification/Amendment #39873
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39876 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39877 From: pompeia_minucia_tiberia Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39878 From: James Mathews Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Candidate Support
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39879 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39880 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39881 From: Lucius Servilius Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Endorsement for Quintus Servilius Priscus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39882 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39883 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix For Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39884 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Gnaeus Iulis Caesar - Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39885 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: [Tribunes] declaration of candidacy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39886 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Candidacy of Tullia Scholastica
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39887 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: My Thanks
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39888 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39889 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39890 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39891 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Candidacy of Tullia Scholastica
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39892 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39893 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39894 From: Lucius Modius Kaelus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39895 From: publius_claudius_caecus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Return to Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39896 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Return to Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39897 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39898 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39899 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39900 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2212
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39901 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: a.d V Kal. Dec.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39902 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Endorsement Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39903 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Endorsement Titus Octavius Pius and Caius Curius Saturninus As Prae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39904 From: publius_claudius_caecus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39905 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39906 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39907 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Q. Fabius Allectus for QUAESTOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39908 From: Your Name Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus for Consul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39909 From: spqr_severus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39910 From: Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39911 From: publius_claudius_caecus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39912 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39913 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39914 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Gnaeus Salvius Astur - Tribune Endorsement
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39915 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Book Donation Project Bookplates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39916 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Project Bookplates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39917 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39918 From: raymond fuentes Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39919 From: Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Support of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39920 From: Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39921 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Welcome back
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39922 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidacy of Tullia Scholastica
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39923 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Welcome back
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39924 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39925 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39926 From: C·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Public Support for Quintus Fabius Allectus's candidacy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39927 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: a.d. IV Kal. Dec.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39928 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39929 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: SUPPORT FOR TIBERIUS GALERIUS PAULINUS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39930 From: Titus Marcius Felix Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Quintus Fabius Allectus for QUESTOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39931 From: vespasian72001 Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Titus Flavius Vespasianus for QUAESTOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39932 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39933 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39934 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39935 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39936 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39937 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39938 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: NR Upcoming Election Platforms
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39939 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39940 From: claudius_petrus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39941 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39942 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39943 From: raymond fuentes Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39944 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Caius Curius Saturninus for Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39945 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39946 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidatura Cn. Salvii Asturis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39947 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39948 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: E-Curiam-Custodem-O-V-F
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39949 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidacy for Quaestor ( Allectus )
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39950 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: [Tribunes] declaration of candidacy ( Maior )
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39951 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39952 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy for Quaestor ( Iul Caesar )
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39953 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39954 From: Lucius Modius Kaelus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39955 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: [Tribunes] declaration of candidacy ( Maior )
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39956 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Support of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39957 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39958 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39959 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39960 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: SUPPORT FOR TIBERIUS GALERIUS PAULINUS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39961 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39962 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39963 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39964 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39965 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C. ( Po )
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39966 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Questions for the candidates for praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39967 From: MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39968 From: Francesco Valenzano Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39969 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39970 From: FAC Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39971 From: FAC Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: list of candidates and call
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39972 From: Lucius Servilius Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Aedilis Curulis Questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39973 From: claudius_petrus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Clarification
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39974 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Thank you!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39975 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Clarification
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39976 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Clarification
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39977 From: albmd323232 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Candidacy for MAGISTER ARANEARIUS (Webmaster)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39978 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Taxpayer update
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39979 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2216
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39980 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2216
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39981 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Petitio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39982 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39983 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Rogator candidacy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39984 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39985 From: Gnaeus Salvius Astur Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39986 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39987 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Candidacy for MAGISTER ARANEARIUS (Webmaster)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39988 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39989 From: C·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39990 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: a.d. III Kal. Dec.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39991 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39992 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39993 From: Gaius Marius Aquilis Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Declaration of Candidacy for ROGATOR - (Gaius Marius Aquilius - Ca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39994 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39995 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39996 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39997 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39998 From: robertpartlow Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Response to Marcus Cassius Philippius' "I don't want to start..."
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39999 From: os390account Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40000 From: David Kling Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40001 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Response to Marcus Cassius Philippius' "I don't want to start..
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40002 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40003 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40004 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Clarity - Diribitor, was Re: Rogator candidacy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40005 From: os390account Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40006 From: albmd323232 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40007 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40008 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40009 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40010 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT OF CANDIDACY
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40011 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40012 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40013 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: McCarthy Discussion
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40014 From: Gaius Marius Aquilius Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: RES: [Nova-Roma] Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40015 From: ladycarissastormbringer Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40016 From: Gaia Apollonia Silana Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40017 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40018 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40019 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40020 From: os390account Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40021 From: Clovius Ullerius Ursus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Endorsement of Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus for Rogator c
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40022 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Gaius Marius Aquilius for Rogator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40023 From: MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40024 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ENDORSEMENT FOR Diribitor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40025 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: RES: [Nova-Roma] Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40026 From: Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: RENVNTIATIO PRAESCRIPTORIS ACADEMIAE THVLES
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40027 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40028 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT OF CANDIDACY
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40029 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: STILL WITH VENATOR...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40030 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40031 From: vespasian72001 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40032 From: Judy Ridgley Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40033 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: I AM GRATEFUL, A. TULLIA SCHOLASTICA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40034 From: vespasian72001 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: McCarthy Discussion
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40035 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40036 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40037 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Quintus Fabius Maximus stands for the office of Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40038 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40039 From: MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40040 From: Cant97 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40041 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Home Schooling
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40042 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Those minor offices...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40043 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus for Rogat
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40044 From: Peter Bird Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40045 From: Peter Bird Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40046 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus stands for the office of Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40047 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39872 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: a.d. VI Kal. Dec.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem VI Kalendas Decembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"Q. Fabius and L. Fulvius were the consuls for the following year. The
war in Samnium was threatening to take a more serious turn, as it was
stated that mercenary troops had been hired from the neighbouring
states. The apprehensions created led to the nomination of A.
Cornelius Arvina as Dictator, with M. Fabius Ambustus as Master of the
Horse. These commanders carried out the enrolment with unusual
strictness, and led an exceptionally fine army into Samnium. But
although they were on hostile territory, they exercised as little
caution in choosing the site for their camp as though the enemy had
been at a great distance. Suddenly the Samnite legions advanced with
such boldness that they encamped with their rampart close to the Roman
outposts. The approach of night prevented them from making an
immediate attack; they disclosed their intention as soon as it grew
light the next morning. The Dictator saw that a battle was nearer than
he expected, and he determined to abandon a position which would
hamper the courage of his men. Leaving a number of watch-fires alight
to deceive the enemy, he silently withdrew his troops, but owing to
the proximity of the camps his movement was not unobserved. The
Samnite cavalry immediately followed on his heels but refrained from
actual attack till it grew lighter, nor did the infantry emerge from
their camp before daybreak. As soon as they could see, the cavalry
began to harass the Roman rear, and by pressing upon them where
difficult ground had to be crossed, considerably delayed their
advance. Meantime the infantry had come up, and now the entire force
of the Samnites was pressing on the rear of the column.

As the Dictator saw that no further advance was possible without heavy
loss, he ordered the ground he was holding to be measured out for a
camp. But as the enemy's cavalry was gradually enveloping them, it was
impossible to procure wood for the stockade or to commence their
entrenchment. Finding that to go forward and to remain where he was
were equally out of the question, the Dictator ordered the baggage to
be removed from the column and collected and the line of battle
formed. The enemy formed also into line, equally matched in courage
and in strength. Their confidence was increased by their attributing
the retirement of the Romans to fear and not, as was actually the
case, to the disadvantageous position of their camp. This made the
fight for some considerable time an even one, though the Samnites had
long been unaccustomed to stand the battle-shout of the Romans. We
read that actually from nine o'clock till two in the afternoon the
contest was maintained so equally on both sides that the shout which
was raised at the first onset was never repeated, the standards
neither advanced nor retreated, in no direction was there any giving
way. They fought, each man keeping his ground, pressing forward with
their shields, neither looking back nor pausing for breath. Their
noise and tumult never grew weaker, the fighting went on perfectly
steadily, and it looked as if it would only be terminated by the
complete exhaustion of the combatants or the approach of night. By
this time the men were beginning to lose their strength and the sword
its vigour, whilst the generals were baffled. A troop of Samnite
cavalry, who had ridden some distance round the Roman rear, discovered
that their baggage was lying at a distance from the combatants without
any guard or protection of any kind. On learning this the whole of the
cavalry rode up to it eager to secure the plunder. A messenger in hot
haste reported this to the Dictator, who remarked: 'All right, let
them encumber themselves with spoil.' Then the soldiers one after
another began to exclaim that their belongings were being plundered
and carried off. The Dictator sent for the Master of the Horse. 'Do
you see,' he said, 'M. Fabius, that the enemy's cavalry have left the
fight? They are hampering and impeding themselves with our baggage.
Attack them whilst they are scattered, as plundering parties always
are; you will find very few of them in the saddle, very few with
swords in their hands. Cut them down whilst they are loading their
horses with spoil, with no weapons to defend themselves, and make it a
bloody spoil for them! I will look after the infantry battle, the
glory of the cavalry victory shall be yours.'" - Livy, History of
Rome 8.38


"There was naturally short suspense for those present who could not
see, when Lord Carnarvon said to me 'Can you see anything'. I replied
to him 'Yes, it is wonderful.' I then with precaution made the hole
sufficiently large for both of us to see. With the light of an
electric torch as well as an additional candle we looked in. Our
sensations and astonishment are difficult to describe as the better
light revealed to us the marvellous collection of treasures Â… We
closed the hole, locked the wooden-grill which had been placed upon
the first doorway, we mounted our donkeys and return home
contemplating what we had seen." - from the diary of Howard Carter,
upon opening the tomb of Tutankhamun, 26 November A.D. 1922

In A.D. 1908, Lord Carnarvon, a wealthy English aristocrat, obtained a
concession to dig in the Valley of the Kings at Thebes, west of Luxor.
He then asked Howard Carter, who had connections with the authorities
at the Egyptian Antiquities Service, to direct the excavations at Thebes.

Carter cleared the tombs of Tuthmosis the Fourth, Yuya and Thuya, and
Hatshepsut. He was forced to stop the excavations when the First
World War began in 1914, but resumed the work in 1917. On the first of
November 1922, he started digging in a place near the entrance of the
tomb of Ramesses the Sixth.

Four days later, the workmen came upon a trench filled with rubble
leading to a staircase cut in the rock. The staircase led to a blocked
doorway, plastered and sealed with the royal necropolis seals. The
excavations revealed the most unexpected and exquisite discovery ever
found in Egypt, and perhaps anywhere. The tomb of King Tutankhamun was
found after being hidden for more than 3000 years.

After excavation down to the plaster blocks of the tomb, at 4PM on
November 26, 1922, Howard Carter broke through and Lord Carnarvon made
one of the 20th century's most amazing discoveries. It would take
another ten years just to catalog the artifacts from this one tomb.

During this time, Lord Carnarvon died in Cairo of pneumonia. This
sent the already sensational press into a frenzy. Media hype about
the mummy's curse set the media on fire, and much to Carters
displeasure, he began receiving letters from spiritualists from around
the world. Legend has it that by 1929, eleven of the people connected
with the discovery of the tomb had died, including two of Lord
Carnarvon's relatives, and Carter's personal secretary, Richard
Bethell. This would spawn mummy movies through the end of the the
twentieth century and beyond.


Valete bene!

Cato


SOURCES

Livy, Tutankhamun's tomb
(http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/carter.htm)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39873 From: P. Minucia Tiberia Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.

I approach you all now, in white stola, and with an earnest, sincere heart and mind, requesting your consideration of my candidacy at the cista as Consul Novae Romae 2759 A.U.C.

I have been a citizen since Ian. 2000.

I have been privileged to participate in various areas of activity in NR, which I've enjoyed thoroughly, and from which I've had the pleasure of learning much from fellow citizens and magistrates more learned than myself. I was Scriba to Marcus Minucius Tiberius Audens Consul, Accensus to Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Consul, and also this year to Franciscus Apulus Caesar Consul.

I have been a Scriba for the past two years to Curule Aediles Marcus Iulius Perusianus and Lucius Iulius Sulla, respectively. I have participated in Ludi events, and in fundraising for the Magna Mater Project, and in editing academic texts for the Magna Mater website. I was also Scriba to Priscilla Vedia Serena Curatrix Sermona (list moderator) in 2001.

I am an officer in Sodalitas Militarium and Sodalitas Egressus. I am currently serving as Propraetrix Canada Orientalis, a position I've also held in the past, and I was honoured and grateful to be adlected to the Senate this year by our Censors (Thank you).

I am a member of the Libra Alliance.

What has this gained me? Well, alot of knowledge, friendships and treasured memories. But I believe past activity has also furnished me with the experience and personal growth necessary to take on the challenge of Consul.


In analyzing the past three years, I feel at ease in saying that, although this year has by no means been absent of disputes, I see it as a much less caustic year than 2003 and 2004. This, I believe, is largely due to a cohesive government this year, elected by the people, working together to promote religious, political and social concordia, and consequently, growth and respect of Nova Roma. ....and working to disallow abuses from the hands of a few with self-serving agendae.

Concordia does not mean that we should all think exactly alike; rather, concordia is the art of applying mutually adopted solutions to reconcile differences, and its also the art of celebrating what we have in common. A decision to compromise where possible. This is, I believe, how the ancients, despite living in a more combative and volatile environment than we enjoy, became so historically remarkable and admired. They were schooled in the art of concordia. Concordia is the responsibility of all citizens, nonne?...But it is facilitated in my view, by a proactive government, motivated by positive aspirations , directing efforts for the good of us all.

I think this is best achieved with more interpersonal communication, via face-to-face gatherings, and even organized gatherings on line, or telephone, to promote collaboration regarding meaningful, positive and enjoyable projects in Nova Roma.....The 'Go Roman' Program comes to mind.... celebrating one another's talents and uniqueness, ie 'celebrating' Romanitas... as opposed to adopting a mindset of perseverating on what might be very minor interpersonal quips.


I applaud and will assist where possible as Consul in the advocacy and mediation of more concise definition/policy regarding the Religio...bridging gaps between the Collegium Pontificium and those citizens who pursue interest in the Religio. I have a good many friends who practise the Religio...not only as the Religio Publica, but also as a personal conviction. Some of them have left Nova Roma. Yet they have not discontinued their pursuit of the Religio....just Nova Roma. Why? This issue to me, merits examination in the near future, and perhaps definite goals, mission statements; reforms might be merited to prevent unnecessary alienation of those seeking the counsel and example of the CP. I leave these issues in the hands of the Pontifices, but I am willing to mediate, assist and advocate. Further, I will work where I can to promote a warmer understanding between the Collegium Pontificium and those citizens who do not practise the Religio privata, but yet respect the rights
of others to do so.

I am against abolishing the constitution. I believe, though, that portions of its language need to be revisited, for clarity. For one thing, the document is necessary macronationally. It acts as our necessary nonprofit corporation bylaws. (The ancients were not accountable to a macronation and perhaps didn't need bylaws) It is also a statement protecting the rights of our citizens, notably their rights to be subject to their respective macronational laws. It protects the Religio...it is the highest ruling document protecting the Religio. And aside from a couple of prevailing leges involving sanctity of Tribunes, and mandates of certain Ludi, it is the *only* legal place in NR where the Religio is protected. It is likewise, the* only* collective legal statement of the desired attitude of our republic in our vision/approach to other religions, that I can see. It is a general blueprint of our mos maiorum. It is subject to change, but in keeping with the wishes of the people
and 2/3 Senate ratification.
Laws passed by comitia pursue the language and spirit of the constitution. This document cannot be victim to the paper shredder. This would be a disaster, quirites.

This mail is long enough, and I am happy to discuss my opinions with you in more detail if you wish Please write me if you have further questions, and I'll return your mail as soon as possible.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39874 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: On C. Equitius Cato, candidate for Curule Aedile
Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete omnes.

I would like to thank Gaius Equitius Cato for his very generous
endorsement of my abilities and for his support of my candidacy.

Cato actually pre-empted me and I had intended to email him and
casually mention that I was going to endorse him publicly and wait
to see if I received a frantic request from him begging me to take a
small holiday for the duration of the election, somewhere in the
North West Territories out of reach of the internet. I know that my
endorsement of Cato may cause a few mandibles to plummet towards the
floor, in all quarters, but I can only speak as I find and I have
had the benefit of observing him in action on of topics of mutual
concern to us both over the balance of a year.

It is true that Cato and I have sparred mercilessly with each other
and extended little quarter to each other, but both of us have
increasingly found ourselves sitting in the same shell holes. It
truly is a great pleasure in life to debate significant issues
alongside someone who can instinctively balance and expand on points
that one makes, with virtually no explanation being necessary.

This man has a passion for Rome, for his friends, for justice and
for the law. He is highly articulate and exceptionally gifted in
intelligence and common sense. He is also not afraid to march to the
beat of his own drum, and has pursued issues regardless of whether
he finds himself in opposition to those who might be considered his
natural supporters. There have been numerous occasions when, had he
been a lesser man, he would have held his tongue firmly in a vice
and possibly garnered even yet more electoral support, but he did
not flinch from doing and saying what he felt was right. One can
spend only so long sitting on a fence before gravity exerts itself
and one becomes firmly impaled, a fate Cato has never suffered from,
nor ever will I suspect.

I respect Cato and I ration respect very carefully and very
sparingly. He will, in my estimation, make an excellent Curule
Aedile.

Now because Cato is running as part of a team, it is also
appropriate for me to mention his running mate, Titus Iulius
Sabinus. Sabinus is a good friend, a fellow patrician Iulian and one
who has taken Dacia from nothing to a growing and obviously vibrant
province. He has also managed to steer his own steady course through
Nova Roma and has accumulated friends all over our Republic along
the way.

Sabinus is dedicated, focused, calm and rational, yet he too has an
obvious passion for Rome and for Nova Roma. He consults where
necessary and acts decisively if required and he is a builder, a man
who can set goals, formulate a plan and then execute it without
wobbling or quitting.

Sabinus is a good and kind man with an inherent strength of will and
character. He too will make an excellent Curule Aedile.

In closing I applaud both Cato and Sabinus for joining as a team,
for they present a visible representation of a unified Nova Roma,
and remind us all that continental divides can become small ditches.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39875 From: P. Minucia Tiberia Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Clarification/Amendment #39873
Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.

It has been brought to my attention that I have made a misleading statement in my discussion of the constitution in my message announcing candidacy, #39873.

In it I state that the Constitution is necessary macronationally. More correctly, it is necessary as long as it serves as our nonprofit corporation bylaws.

Since I discuss other reasons for believing why we should keep this document, my general position against its abolition remains unchanged.

I apologize for any unsettlement that I have caused anyone due to this. I thank the citizen who called my attention to this, and out of respect for privacy, I'll leave it to this individual as to whether or not he wishes to identify himself.

If I have occasion to post my candidacy announcement in other venues in NR, I'll amend the text to reflect the correction above. So far, this is the first stop on the campaign trail :)

Valete et Gratias


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39876 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy
Salve Gai Minuci, et salvete omnes,

Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix wrote:

> I stand before you, the Quirites of Nova Roma, garbed in the Toga
> Candida to ask you to support my candidacy for the office of Censor.

Ah! I shall have a colleague next year. I had begun to wonder.

It has been a while since we worked together, Hadriane, but I remember
you as a good and diligent Quaestor. Should the Quirites choose to make
you my colleague it will be my pleasure to welcome you to the censorship.

Vale, et valete,

-- Marinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39877 From: pompeia_minucia_tiberia Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.

I wish to add my voice to the growing (and justifiably so!) number
of citizens who are pleased that Aula Tullia Scholastica is standing
for Rogatrix.

Seemingly everything she does, Tullia puts forth an exemplary effort
and does a great job. She would be a very efficient Rogatrix in my
view.

She's enriched our community with her command of Latin, and other
aspects of Roman history. And she's worked very hard with
sodalitates initiatives and with Tabularium corrections to reflect
proper Latin.

All my best to Aula Tullia Scholastica in this election.

Valete





valete
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39878 From: James Mathews Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Candidate Support
Honored Citizens of Nova Roma;

I come before you to support the candidacy of two extremely deserving men:

Gnaeus Julius Caesar Quiribus S.P.D.

and

Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix

Both of these men have served Nova Roma well in past years. Unlike many others who have volunteered and then disappeared these men have not only undertaken the tasks of their commitment but in each case have exceeded all commitments originally made.

I normally do not idly appoint people to positions within my realm of responsibilities and when I do I expect those appointees to complete their commitments and in doing so, I am pleased to evaluate their effectiveness. In the case of both of these men, I cannot say too much about what they have accomplished. I am sure that they can do that far better than I. So, let me say that these two men, in my view and after long observation have served Nova Roma extremely well. I would recommend both for any position that they feel that they can be effective with and in. Let me also say that I trust both of these men explicitly, and would have no compunction about trusting either with my wallet. wife or dog (not necessarily in that order (Grin!!!!!). I cannot say better than that!!!!!

In closing, I urge your serious consideration of the above candidates. After long association with the Citizens of Nova Roma I know that they will do what they see to be the right thing. I urge your attention to these very fine candidates. I feel that you will not see better than these.

Very Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius - Tiberius Audens
Senator and Proconsul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39879 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
P. Minucia Tiberia wrote:
> I approach you all now, in white stola, and with an earnest,
> sincere heart and mind, requesting your consideration of my
> candidacy at the cista as Consul Novae Romae 2759 A.U.C.

Salvete omnes!

Normally, I send my endorsements in a single e-mail, including my
preferred candidates for each office. However, upon seeing Pompeia
Strabo declare her candidacy for consul, I must make an exception.

Quirites: Pompeia is an assett to the republic. She has performed
admirably in office as well as outside it. Her devotion to Nova Roma is
second to none. If you have any doubts, please let me still them - she
will be an excellent consul. Please give her the chance.

Pompeia: I am VERY glad to see you announce your candidacy. You have my
vote and my heart-felt endorsement! Make me and the republic proud!

Valete, Titus Octavius Pius.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39880 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Salvete Omnes,

> I approach you all now, in white stola, and with an earnest,
> sincere heart and mind,
> requesting your consideration of my candidacy at the cista as > Consul Novae Romae 2759
A.U.C.
>
> I have been a citizen since Ian. 2000.

Popmeia: I am very pleased to see that you are a candidate for the Consulship. You have
all my support in your bid and I hope you will succeed.

Therefore, I endorse Pompeia's candidacy. She will be a very active and effective Consul.
Vote for her!!

Valete,




Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39881 From: Lucius Servilius Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Endorsement for Quintus Servilius Priscus
Salve, Q. Servilius et Salvete Omnes
I would like to offer my full endorsement of Quintus Servilius Priscus
for the office of Questor. I have had many opportunities to deal with Quintus Servilius,
both within and outside of Nova Roma, and I have always found him to be an intelligent, motivated and honorable person, who exemplifies the authentic Roman ideals. His wisdom and knowledge are the main reasons why he is the sort
of public servant Nova Roma needs and deserves. Valete, Lucius Servilius Primus




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39882 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus: A. Tulliae Scholasticae: Rogatrici Candidatae: SD:

As many of us have already done, I also add my voice to the citizens supporting Tullia Scholastica in her running for Rogatrix.

I know Tullia from this January and we have worked together in the Charter Review Commission throughout the year. Since in July she was appointed as Official Latin Interpreter I am her Scriba in this office. I could know her in these offices both officially and privately and I can say state that Aula Tullia Scholastica is entirely devoted to everything that is Nova Roma and Latin. Readiness, helpfulness, loveliness, professionalism and immense knowledge and competence in the Roman things: these qualities are characteristics of Tullia Scolastica. I admire her huge energy, efforts and works done throughout the year since I know her. A pride woman, a good friend, a devoted Latinist, an eager citizen: and now, if you support her, an excellent Rogatrix. Vote A. Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix!

TVLLIAM SCHOLASTICAM ROGATRICEM D. R. P. O. F.: DIGNA EST.

Valete, Tullia, Quirites!




Cnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
Propraetor Provinciae Pannoniae
Accensus Consulis Fr. Apuli Caesaris
Scriba Aedilis Curulis L. Iulii Sullae
Scriba Interpretis Linguae Latinae Tulliae Scholasticae Senior
Scriba Magistri Araneari Q. Cassi Calvi Iunior
Sodalis Sodalitatis Latinitatis
Latinista, Classicus Philologus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39883 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix For Censor
Salvete Omnes,

Senator Audens has pretty well summed up everything but I wish to
add my voice nevertheless. We are well well aware of Gaius
Hadrianus' dedication and work in Res Publica. I have communicated
on and off the list with him and I greatly respect his knowledge,
dedication,diplomacy and reliability.

He has been a great voice for the religio as well and has a real
gift and getting his ideas, belief and faith clearly and logically
to any of us that have had questions or points of view about the
religio and its significance to NR. I know his talents will
certainly shine when he takes on the very demanding office of
Censor and I was so pleased to see Censor Marinus happy about the
announcement. A man with talents and compatable with next year's
current serving Censor; what more could we ask for? I urge you all
to back Gaius Minucius' bid for the office of Censor!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
<c.minucius.hadrianus@n...> wrote:
>
> Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete omnes.
>
> I stand before you, the Quirites of Nova Roma, garbed in the Toga
> Candida to ask you to support my candidacy for the office of
Censor.
>
> I am 34 years old, and I have been a citizen of Nova Roma since
November
> of 2001. I have had the honor of serving the Res Publica in the
past in
> the offices of Quaestor, Rogator, Propraetor, Lictor, and Scriba
and I
> am currently a member of the Collegium Pontificum, one of Nova
Roma's
> two Minervae Aedis Sacerdos and a provincial Legate.
>
> I am currently employed as a security officer at a nuclear power
plant
> in Nova Britannia, and I am also a part-time Classics student at
the
> University of Massachusetts. I am a 16 year veteran of the armed
forces,
> and a serving non-commissioned officer in the Army National Guard.
>
> I believe that my long and varied experience within Nova Roma,
from its
> financial aspects to the intricacies of its voting system,
combined with
> my excellent organizational and computer skills make me uniquely
> qualified for the administrative responsibilities of the office of
> Censor. I also hope that both my sincere devotion to the immortal
Gods,
> and my long and service in the honorable profession of arms have
granted
> me the wisdom, integrity, and moral courage to act as a impartial,
fair
> and just guardian of public morality within our Res Publica.
>
> If you should elect me as your next Censor, I vow to both the
immortal
> Gods and to you the Quirites, to faithfully and honorably execute
the
> duties and responsibilities of the office of Censor to the best of
my
> abilities and with the utmost attention to the dignitas and
gravitas
> which are so vital to it.
>
> Valete bene,
>
> Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
> Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos
> Legate Massachusetts Regio
>
> c.minucius.hadrianus@n...
>
> "We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
> still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
> Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine
dedi./"
>
> -T.S. Eliot
>
> "/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine
dedi./"
>
> "For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial
boundries or
> temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."
>
> -Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39884 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Gnaeus Iulis Caesar - Quaestor
Salvete omnes,

Here we have another great choice for this office. Gnaeus Iulius
Caesar has been extremely dedicated to Nova Roma and has done
wonders in Egressus and Canada Occidentalis where I am currently
serving as Propraetor. This gentleman really knows his stuff and has
been in charge of big budgets within the macro world of the law
courts here.
I am praying that he will also be chosen as as Consular quaestor and
he would be the man I'd like to have at my side if I held that
office.
His knowledge of the legal world in macro and NR is impressive to
say the least! I know he shall rise high in our civil service.

Another thing is that I know him in person. Gnaeus is a great down
to earth fellow, with an outgoing personality and a great sense of
humor. He is not shy to meet people or afraid to talk about anything
and his actions in dealing with the public shall be a great asset to
NR. As senator Audens says, you can trust him with anyone or
anything. Lets all be smart about it and put Gnaeus Iulius Caesar in
office of Quaestor!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39885 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: [Tribunes] declaration of candidacy
Salve Gai Fabi Buteo Modiane et salvete omnes,

The funny thing I found in life is that often people who became
great friends or more (like my wife), I actually got off on the
wrong foot with; lol, never liked that saying which says you never
get another chance to make a first impression for confidence or
trust is something that takes time.

Something I wanted to add to your comments is that Marca Hortensia
Maior sure has the virtues of "strength" and "tenacity" making her
one hell of a good Roman. Insofar has having a tough time goes I
think she has endured one of the roughest I have seen anyone get in
NR. It does not matter now whether we agreed or disagreed or
scrapped with some of her her ideas or actions (and vice-versa!).
What counts is that she stuck it out come hell or high water and
channelled 100% of all her energies into her several projects and
offices in a Nova Roma rather than quitting or disappearing into the
shadows. By the gods, how many citizens have we seen pack it in and
quit because someone said booh, criticized their post or threw a
little too much on their plate.

Just this observation should be sufficient enough to demonstrate
that Marca Hortensia has what it takes to handle the office of
Plebian Aedile plus any office or challenge that comes her way and
she will certainly have my Plebian vote this election.

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus












--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@g...>
wrote:
>
> Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus S.P.D.
>
> One thing is for sure, M. Hortensia Maior and I have not always
had a
> pleasant history between us. Fortunately, it seems to be the time
for
> putting aside negativity and hostilities and seeing people not as
political
> objects but as potential friends. Being able to publically state
that Marca
> Hortensia is now a friend is much better for Nova Roma, and my own
personal
> sanity, than to perpetuate petty hostilities.
>
> I am a Patrician now, and cannot vote for Marca Hortensia Maior.
But I was
> once a Plebeian, and once a tribune, so it is a pleasure to see
someone
> willing to serve as Plebeian Aedile. I know she will do the
office honor,
> as I have seen her dedicate herself to censoral duties and the
duties of the
> tribunate. If I could vote for her, I would -- I encourage the
Plebeian
> citizens of Nova Roma to support her as well.
>
> Valete;
>
> Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
>
> On 11/25/05, rory kirshner <rory12001@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Avete Quirites:
> > I declare my candidacy for Plebian Aedile. I have been the
> > Propraetrix of Hibernia, Scriba and then Caput Officina for
Censor
> > Buteo, scriba for Sulla, Tribuna Plebis.
> > I have served Nova Roma sincerely & devotedly,
especially the
> > Plebs and the gods. As Plebian Aedile I take my responsibility of
> > ensuring that the gods are honored with Ludi extremely
seriously. I
> > also will ensure that the Macellum is responsibly supervised.
> > bene valete in pacem deorum
> > Marca Hortensia Maior TRP
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39886 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Candidacy of Tullia Scholastica
A. Apollonius C. Equitio omnibusque sal.

> It works very well, but I like the level of
> concentration required to
> pronounce "pre-comitia-listically" in the correct
> cadence :-)

<Concentrates intensely>

...

pre-COM-it-ya-LIST-ic-ly?



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39887 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: My Thanks
C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete.

I would like to thank Pontifex Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus, Censor
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, Senator Marcus Minucius Audens and Quaestor
Quintus Suetonius Paulinus for their kind words and encouragement of my
candidacy. Should the Quirities grant me the honor of serving as Nova
Roma's next Censor, I pray to the Gods that I am able to live up to
these excellent gentleman's expectations.

Valete bene,

--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos
Legate Massachusetts Regio

c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39888 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Book Donation Plan?
C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete.

Unless my memory fails me I seem to recall at one time someone
suggesting a Roman/Classical history and culture book donation program
for Nova Roma, where Nova Roma would make available a "This book was
donated by Nova Roma" decal or sticker that citizens could affix to the
inside cover of a book which would then be donated to a local public or
school library. Did anything ever come of this? Does anyone remember who
made this suggestion? I think it would be an excellent plan both help
carry out Nova Roma's goal of promoting the study of Classical
civilization, and to spread awareness of Nova Roma itself.

Valete bene,
--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39889 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix

The book donation and book plate was suggested by me ; ) I even have the book plate designed
and residing in my computer.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Book Donation Plan?


C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete.

Unless my memory fails me I seem to recall at one time someone
suggesting a Roman/Classical history and culture book donation program
for Nova Roma, where Nova Roma would make available a "This book was
donated by Nova Roma" decal or sticker that citizens could affix to the
inside cover of a book which would then be donated to a local public or
school library. Did anything ever come of this? Does anyone remember who
made this suggestion? I think it would be an excellent plan both help
carry out Nova Roma's goal of promoting the study of Classical
civilization, and to spread awareness of Nova Roma itself.

Valete bene,
--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39890 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix

This is what the book plate said

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
****************************************************************************

"A room without a book is like a body without a soul."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A library is an arsenal of liberty."
--Unknown

"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture."
Just get people to stop reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury

"The person who does not read is no better off than the person who cannot read".
--Abigail Van Buren

Nova Roman Flag is placed here


This book is presented as a gift from the citizens of Nova Roma . a micro-nation and organization dedicated to the study and restoration of ancient Roman religion, culture and society.

Founded 2,750 years after the Eternal City itself, NOVA ROMA, seeks to bring about a rebirth of classical Roman civilization, which stands as the bedrock of Western culture. Nova Roma is involved in a variety of activities related to our goal. But where our ancestors imposed their will through the sword and the Legions, we intend the same result through the spread of knowledge and through our own virtuous example.

If you would like more information on Nova Roma, please visit our web site at: www.novaroma.org<http://www.novaroma.org/> All you really need in order to join is a love of all things Roman!

Please enjoy the Book

*********************************************************************
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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Book Donation Plan?


C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete.

Unless my memory fails me I seem to recall at one time someone
suggesting a Roman/Classical history and culture book donation program
for Nova Roma, where Nova Roma would make available a "This book was
donated by Nova Roma" decal or sticker that citizens could affix to the
inside cover of a book which would then be donated to a local public or
school library. Did anything ever come of this? Does anyone remember who
made this suggestion? I think it would be an excellent plan both help
carry out Nova Roma's goal of promoting the study of Classical
civilization, and to spread awareness of Nova Roma itself.

Valete bene,
--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39891 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Candidacy of Tullia Scholastica
Cato A. Apollonio omnibusque S.P.D.

More like

"PRE-com-mitya-LIST-ic-ly"

The accents are

"DAH dah dah DAH dah dah" (the dactyls in dimeter)

You sorta have to run through the "mitya" bit to get to the "LIST" bit
- almost like a triplet within dactylic form.

Valete,

Cato


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
>
> A. Apollonius C. Equitio omnibusque sal.
>
> > It works very well, but I like the level of
> > concentration required to
> > pronounce "pre-comitia-listically" in the correct
> > cadence :-)
>
> <Concentrates intensely>
>
> ...
>
> pre-COM-it-ya-LIST-ic-ly?
>
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39892 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve Amice.

Timothy P. Gallagher wrote:

> Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix
>
> The book donation and book plate was suggested by me ; ) I even have
> the book plate designed
> and residing in my computer.
>
> Vale
>
Bravo! I think it's a great idea, and one that NR should start
promoting again. Here's a proposal:

Create a book donation program webpage for the NR site, with the book
plate in various formats available for download. Include a link to the
Nova Roma bookstore in the Macellum (an Amazon.com affiliate program)
that way people can purchase the book they plan on donating there and
send a % of the purchase price to NR's treasury. With the input of the
NR citizenry, create a "Suggested Book" list to give people some ideas
on good books to donate. Also create a list of book donors, with their
name, the book they donated, and the institution the book was given to.

I your the plate design, but you might want to edit it slightly to
remove an potentially controversial language.. perhaps something like this:

************************************************************************

"A room without a book is like a body without a soul."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero

"It does not matter how many books you have, but how good the books are
which you have"
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca

"A library is an arsenal of liberty."
--Unknown

"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture."
Just get people to stop reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury

"The person who does not read is no better off than the person who
cannot read".
--Abigail Van Buren

**Nova Roman Flag is placed here**

This book is presented as a gift from the Quirites of Nova Roma a
non-profit organization dedicated to the study and restoration of
ancient Roman religion, philosophy, language, culture and civilization.

Founded 2,750 years after the Eternal City itself, NOVA ROMA, seeks to
bring about a rebirth of classical Roman civilization, which stands as
the bedrock of Western culture. Nova Roma is involved in a variety of
activities related to our goal of promoting awareness of ancient Rome
through educational, religious and charitable projects.

If you would like more information on Nova Roma, please visit our web
site at: www.novaroma.org <http://www.novaroma.org/> All you really
need in order to join is a love of all things Roman!

Please enjoy the Book

*******************************************************

I'd be glad to help out with this project if you'd like.

Vale bene,

--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39893 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix

Yes lets get this program up and running!!

Is there any citizen who works for a book publishing company or is related to anybody in the book business? Maybe we can by wholesale?? Is there some one who would be willing to design the link to the NR website? Separate NR Fund for donations?


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

Foris of a canis a libri est man's optimus amicus.
Inside of a canis it's quoque atrum ut lego.

-Grouchus Marxus : )

How would you really write this in Latin?


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39894 From: Lucius Modius Kaelus Date: 2005-11-26
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Ave, Paulinus.

A friendly suggestion, amice: you might want to rescind the label of
"micronation", as it is a term of much contention that we want to
avoid using (hence the removal of the term from the main page of the
website, by Senate consultum no less, if I remember correctly).

While we are TECHNICALLY a micronation, in that we declare ourselves a
sovereign nation without a state, avoidance of the term is wise and
perhaps even necessary. It's significantly held back recognition of
the validity of Nova Roma in numerous circles due to its association
with the almost laughable nature of most micro-nations extant today.

My suggestion is this; use neutral language, and keep it brief but
informative. Call us exactly what we are: an international classical
reconstructionist organisation with specific aims and eventual goals.
The description that you've provided does an excellent job of this,
but it might be trimmed ever-so-slightly for the sake of brevity and
to display a more overt sense of professionalism... That is, not
appealing to emotional imagery. Then again, that might just be a
little bit of Stoic in me talking.

I'd absolutely love to be involved in this project with you and
Hadrianus, if you'd be so generous. I can be reached via my e-mail
(for the time being), or better yet, through AIM at xkaelusx. Or just
let me know what you think in a discussion here on the ML.

Bene vale,
L. Modius Kaelus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39895 From: publius_claudius_caecus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Return to Nova Roma
Salvete,

Four years ago, I left Nova Roma. Today I return today slightly more
mature but no less committed to Nova Romma's mission. During my
voluntary "exile" I never stopped learning and embracing all things
Roman and never stopped looking back fondly at my time spent here. I
am so very proud to once again hold citizenship in the republic that I
am so very fond of.

I look forward to catching up on events that have transpired since my
leave.

Yours once again in service of the res publica,

Publius Claudius Caecus
(formerly Amulius Claudius Petrus)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39896 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Return to Nova Roma
Salve Publius Claudius Caecus

Welcome back. I hope you spend the next 40 or so years here with us.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:32 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Return to Nova Roma


Salvete,

Four years ago, I left Nova Roma. Today I return today slightly more
mature but no less committed to Nova Romma's mission. During my
voluntary "exile" I never stopped learning and embracing all things
Roman and never stopped looking back fondly at my time spent here. I
am so very proud to once again hold citizenship in the republic that I
am so very fond of.

I look forward to catching up on events that have transpired since my
leave.

Yours once again in service of the res publica,

Publius Claudius Caecus
(formerly Amulius Claudius Petrus)







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39897 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve L. Modius Kaelus et al

Ok everybody take a deep breath. This "draft" of a book plate is 2-3 years old.
I have already removed the micro- nation reference per the suggestions.

We need to remember that while the original idea was mine, the project is OURS.

What would you remove? Can a donation page ie for money be add to the website?

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39898 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
that should be added to the website


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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Book Donation Plan?


Salve L. Modius Kaelus et al

Ok everybody take a deep breath. This "draft" of a book plate is 2-3 years old.
I have already removed the micro- nation reference per the suggestions.

We need to remember that while the original idea was mine, the project is OURS.

What would you remove? Can a donation page ie for money be add to the website?

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39899 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
>
A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Cornelio Lentulo quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque
omnibus S.P.D.

Plurimas gratias tibi agendae, Lentule, non modo pro uerbis tuis
benignis sed etiam pro consilio tuo de uersione diplomatis noui sodalitatis.

For the benefit of those who may not be aware of this, the charter
revision in question is that of the Sodalitas Latinitatis, whose charter was
seriously out of date.

Vale, et ualete,

A. Tullia Scholastica

>
> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus: A. Tulliae Scholasticae: Rogatrici Candidatae: SD:
>
> As many of us have already done, I also add my voice to the citizens
> supporting Tullia Scholastica in her running for Rogatrix.
>
> I know Tullia from this January and we have worked together in the Charter
> Review Commission throughout the year. Since in July she was appointed as
> Official Latin Interpreter I am her Scriba in this office. I could know her in
> these offices both officially and privately and I can say state that Aula
> Tullia Scholastica is entirely devoted to everything that is Nova Roma and
> Latin. Readiness, helpfulness, loveliness, professionalism and immense
> knowledge and competence in the Roman things: these qualities are
> characteristics of Tullia Scolastica. I admire her huge energy, efforts and
> works done throughout the year since I know her. A pride woman, a good friend,
> a devoted Latinist, an eager citizen: and now, if you support her, an
> excellent Rogatrix. Vote A. Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix!
>
> TVLLIAM SCHOLASTICAM ROGATRICEM D. R. P. O. F.: DIGNA EST.
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39900 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2212
Salvete Pompeia and others!

I'm so glad seeing this announcement of yours! You have my 100% support.

Now with Pompeia and Modianus as candidates, it seems that we have
excellent consular candidates this year too, good luck for both!

Valete,


On Nov 26, 2005, at 16:22 , Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:42:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: "P. Minucia Tiberia" <pompeia_minucia_tiberia@...>
> Subject: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
>
> Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.
>
> I approach you all now, in white stola, and with an earnest,
> sincere heart and mind, requesting your consideration of my
> candidacy at the cista as Consul Novae Romae 2759 A.U.C.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39901 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: a.d V Kal. Dec.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem V Kalendas Decembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"The cavalry force, riding in perfect order, charged the enemy whilst
scattered and hampered by their plunder and filled the whole place
with carnage. Incapable of either resistance or flight they were cut
down amongst the packages which they had thrown away and over which
their startled horses were stumbling. After almost annihilating the
enemy's cavalry, M. Fabius led his cavalry by a short circuit round
the main battle and attacked the Samnite infantry from behind. The
fresh shouting which arose in that direction threw them into a panic,
and when the Dictator saw the men in front looking round, the
standards getting into confusion, and the whole line wavering, he
called upon his men and encouraged them to fresh efforts; he appealed
to the military tribunes and first centurions by name to join him in
renewing the fight. They again raised the battle-shout and pressed
forward, and wherever they advanced they saw more and more
demoralisation amongst the enemy. The cavalry were now within view of
those in front, and Cornelius, turning round to his maniples,
indicated as well as he could by voice and hand that he recognised the
standards and bucklers of his own cavalry. No sooner did they see and
hear them than, forgetting the toil and travail they had endured for
almost a whole day, forgetting their wounds, and as eager as though
they had just emerged fresh from their camp after receiving the signal
for battle, they flung themselves on the enemy. The Samnites could no
longer bear up against the terrible onset of the cavalry behind them
and the fierce charge of the infantry in front. A large number were
killed between the two, many were scattered in flight. The infantry
accounted for those who were hemmed in and stood their ground, the
cavalry created slaughter among the fugitives; amongst those killed
was their commander-in-chief.

This battle completely broke down the resistance; so much so that in
all their councils peace was advocated. It could not, they said, be a
matter of surprise that they met with no success in an unblest war,
undertaken in defiance of treaty obligations, where the gods were more
justly incensed against them than men. That war would have to be
expiated and atoned for at a great cost. The only question was whether
they should pay the penalty by sacrificing the few who were guilty or
shedding the innocent blood of all. Some even went so far as to name
the instigators of the war. One name, especially, was generally
denounced, that of Brutulus Papius. He was an aristocrat and possessed
great influence, and there was not a shadow of doubt that it was he
who had brought about the breach of the recent truce. The praetors
found themselves compelled to submit a decree which the council
passed, ordering Brutulus Papius to be surrendered and all the
prisoners and booty taken from the Romans to be sent with him to Rome,
and further that the redress which the fetials had demanded in
accordance with treaty-rights should be made as law and justice
demanded. Brutulus escaped the ignominy and punishment which awaited
him by a voluntary death, but the decree was carried out; the fetials
were sent to Rome with the dead body, and all his property was
surrendered with him. None of this, however, was accepted by the
Romans beyond the prisoners and whatever articles amongst the spoil
were identified by the owners; so far as anything else was concerned,
the surrender was fruitless. The senate decreed a triumph for the
Dictator." - Livy, History of Rome 8.39



"Up to the present I have not obtained from any poet the same artistic
delight as was given me from the first by a Horatian ode. In certain
languages that which is obtained here cannot even be hoped for. The
mosaic of words in which every word, by sound, by position and by
meaning, diffuses its force right, left and over the whole, that
minimum in the compass and number of signs, that maximum thus realized
in their energy,--all that is Roman, and if you will believe me, it is
noble par excellence. All other poetry becomes somewhat too popular in
comparison with it - mere sentimental loquacity." - Friederich
Nietzsche, "Twilight of the Idols"

"Tu ne quaesieris, scire nefas, quem mihi, quem tibi
finem di dederint, Leuconoe, nec Babylonios
temptaris numeros. ut melius, quicquid erit, pati,
seu pluris hiemes seu tribuit Iuppiter ultimam,
quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare
Tyrrhenum: sapias, uina liques, et spatio breui
spem longam reseces. dum loquimur, fugerit inuida
aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

(Don't ask [it's forbidden to know] what final fate the gods have
given to me and you, Leuconoe, and don't consult Babylonian
horoscopes. How much better it is to accept whatever shall be,
whether Iuppiter has given many more winters or whether this is the
last one, which now breaks the force of the Tuscan sea against the
facing cliffs. Be wise, strain the wine, and trim distant hope within
short limits. While we're talking, grudging time will already
have fled: seize the day, trusting as little as possible in tomorrow)
- Horace, Odes 1.11


"Laetus in praesens animus quod ultra est
oderit curare, et amara lento
temperet risu: nihil est ab omni
parte beatum."

(Let the mind which is happy in the present
refuse to concern itself with what's beyond, and
let it soften what's harsh with a quiet smile:
nothing is perfect from every angle.) - Horace, Odes 2.16


"Quid sit futurum cras fuge quaerere, et
quem fors dierum cumque dabit lucro
adpone, nec dulcis amores
sperne puer neque tu choreas..."

(Leave off asking what tomorrow will bring, and
whatever days fortune will give, count them
as profit, and while you're young don't scorn
sweet love affairs and dances...) - Horace, Odes 1.19


On this day in 8 B.C., the poet Horace died. Quintus Horatius
Flaccus, known in English as Horace, was born at Venusia, near the
border of Apulia, in 65 B.C. His father, a former slave who had freed
himself before the birth of his son, sent him to school in Rome. As a
young man Horace went to Athens and studied philosophy at the famous
schools. When the Civil War broke out he enlisted in the army of
Brutus, served at Philippi, and came back to Rome not long after.
Deprived of his property as a result of the proscriptions, he began
life anew at the age of twenty-four as a clerk in a public office. Not
long after, he attracted the attention of Maecenas, and soon became
acquainted with Varius and Vergil, henceforth devoting himself to
literary pursuits. His first work, the first book of Satires, was
published in 35 B.C. About a year later, Maecenas presented him with
the celebrated Sabine Farm, and Horace was at liberty to the end of
his life to do as he liked. Before he died he was famous: the Emperor
Augustus commissioned him to write the fourth book of Odes.


Valete bene!

Cato



SOURCES

Livy, Horace (http://www.merriampark.com/horace.htm)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39902 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Endorsement Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as Quaestor
Salvete Omnes,

I would like to give my full support for the candidacy of Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as
Quaestor. This citizen has shown much activity and dedication in the Go Roman project.
His results are outstanding and I can testify there is no task Gnaeus Iulius Caesar is
afraid of!! I am quite confident he will serve for the best of Nova Roma.

Valete,

Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39903 From: Sextus Apollonius Scipio Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Endorsement Titus Octavius Pius and Caius Curius Saturninus As Prae
Salvete Omnes,

I have known these two citizens for quite a while now and needless to say that they are
very dedicated to our Nation and that they know it more than well. I believe the position
of Praetor will be more important than ever next year. This two men will be the right
ones.

Valete,

Sextus Apollonius Scipio

Propraetor Galliae




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39904 From: publius_claudius_caecus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C.
Salvete,

What a pleasant surprise!

Having had the pleasure to work with this individual on her provincial
staff in the past I hold her in the highest esteem. Her governance of
the province of Canada Orientalis has been nothing but superb. Pompeia
will be a fabulous consul and leader of this fine republic. I am eager
to witness her leadership throughout the coming year.


- Publius Claudius Caecus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "P. Minucia Tiberia"
<pompeia_minucia_tiberia@y...> wrote:
>
> Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.
>
> I approach you all now, in white stola, and with an earnest,
sincere heart and mind, requesting your consideration of my candidacy
at the cista as Consul Novae Romae 2759 A.U.C.
>
> I have been a citizen since Ian. 2000.
>
> I have been privileged to participate in various areas of
activity in NR, which I've enjoyed thoroughly, and from which I've had
the pleasure of learning much from fellow citizens and magistrates
more learned than myself. I was Scriba to Marcus Minucius Tiberius
Audens Consul, Accensus to Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Consul, and
also this year to Franciscus Apulus Caesar Consul.
>
> I have been a Scriba for the past two years to Curule Aediles
Marcus Iulius Perusianus and Lucius Iulius Sulla, respectively. I have
participated in Ludi events, and in fundraising for the Magna Mater
Project, and in editing academic texts for the Magna Mater website.
I was also Scriba to Priscilla Vedia Serena Curatrix Sermona (list
moderator) in 2001.
>
> I am an officer in Sodalitas Militarium and Sodalitas Egressus. I
am currently serving as Propraetrix Canada Orientalis, a position I've
also held in the past, and I was honoured and grateful to be adlected
to the Senate this year by our Censors (Thank you).
>
> I am a member of the Libra Alliance.
>
> What has this gained me? Well, alot of knowledge, friendships and
treasured memories. But I believe past activity has also furnished me
with the experience and personal growth necessary to take on the
challenge of Consul.
>
>
> In analyzing the past three years, I feel at ease in saying that,
although this year has by no means been absent of disputes, I see it
as a much less caustic year than 2003 and 2004. This, I believe, is
largely due to a cohesive government this year, elected by the people,
working together to promote religious, political and social concordia,
and consequently, growth and respect of Nova Roma. ....and working to
disallow abuses from the hands of a few with self-serving agendae.
>
> Concordia does not mean that we should all think exactly alike;
rather, concordia is the art of applying mutually adopted solutions to
reconcile differences, and its also the art of celebrating what we
have in common. A decision to compromise where possible. This is, I
believe, how the ancients, despite living in a more combative and
volatile environment than we enjoy, became so historically remarkable
and admired. They were schooled in the art of concordia. Concordia
is the responsibility of all citizens, nonne?...But it is facilitated
in my view, by a proactive government, motivated by positive
aspirations , directing efforts for the good of us all.
>
> I think this is best achieved with more interpersonal
communication, via face-to-face gatherings, and even organized
gatherings on line, or telephone, to promote collaboration regarding
meaningful, positive and enjoyable projects in Nova Roma.....The 'Go
Roman' Program comes to mind.... celebrating one another's talents
and uniqueness, ie 'celebrating' Romanitas... as opposed to adopting
a mindset of perseverating on what might be very minor interpersonal
quips.
>
>
> I applaud and will assist where possible as Consul in the advocacy
and mediation of more concise definition/policy regarding the
Religio...bridging gaps between the Collegium Pontificium and those
citizens who pursue interest in the Religio. I have a good many
friends who practise the Religio...not only as the Religio Publica,
but also as a personal conviction. Some of them have left Nova Roma.
Yet they have not discontinued their pursuit of the Religio....just
Nova Roma. Why? This issue to me, merits examination in the near
future, and perhaps definite goals, mission statements; reforms might
be merited to prevent unnecessary alienation of those seeking the
counsel and example of the CP. I leave these issues in the hands of
the Pontifices, but I am willing to mediate, assist and advocate.
Further, I will work where I can to promote a warmer understanding
between the Collegium Pontificium and those citizens who do not
practise the Religio privata, but yet respect the rights
> of others to do so.
>
> I am against abolishing the constitution. I believe, though, that
portions of its language need to be revisited, for clarity. For one
thing, the document is necessary macronationally. It acts as our
necessary nonprofit corporation bylaws. (The ancients were not
accountable to a macronation and perhaps didn't need bylaws) It is
also a statement protecting the rights of our citizens, notably their
rights to be subject to their respective macronational laws. It
protects the Religio...it is the highest ruling document protecting
the Religio. And aside from a couple of prevailing leges involving
sanctity of Tribunes, and mandates of certain Ludi, it is the *only*
legal place in NR where the Religio is protected. It is likewise,
the* only* collective legal statement of the desired attitude of our
republic in our vision/approach to other religions, that I can see.
It is a general blueprint of our mos maiorum. It is subject to change,
but in keeping with the wishes of the people
> and 2/3 Senate ratification.
> Laws passed by comitia pursue the language and spirit of the
constitution. This document cannot be victim to the paper shredder.
This would be a disaster, quirites.
>
> This mail is long enough, and I am happy to discuss my opinions
with you in more detail if you wish Please write me if you have
further questions, and I'll return your mail as soon as possible.
>
>
> Valete
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39905 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salvete omnes.

I think the best way to start this off is with individual donations i.e.
books purchased & donated directly by citizens. We can provide the
plates (as a download) and perhaps book suggestions. Perhaps over time
Nova Roma can set aside money (or create a separate Book Fund that
citizens can donate to) to finance book donations, but setting up
something like that will take time and Senate approval. By initially
focusing on individual donations, we can get this started much more quickly.

I'll be more than happy to come up with a web page design, which we can
submit to the NR web master for inclusion in the NR site.

Once we agree on the text of the plate, I also don't mind whipping up
some design ideas for that as well. I think we should have 3-4 different
sizes available to fit different books.

Valete bene,

Hadrianus

Timothy P. Gallagher wrote:

> Salve L. Modius Kaelus et al
>
> Ok everybody take a deep breath. This "draft" of a book plate is 2-3
> years old.
> I have already removed the micro- nation reference per the suggestions.
>
> We need to remember that while the original idea was mine, the project
> is OURS.
>
> What would you remove? Can a donation page ie for money be add to the
> website?
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> Vale
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still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39906 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve

That's great! 3 or 4 designs will give us some choice in which plate to use. We should also look for some more quotes from Romans on books to include.

Thanks for bring this project back. I believe it will serve Nova Roma well.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Book Donation Plan?


Salvete omnes.

I think the best way to start this off is with individual donations i.e.
books purchased & donated directly by citizens. We can provide the
plates (as a download) and perhaps book suggestions. Perhaps over time
Nova Roma can set aside money (or create a separate Book Fund that
citizens can donate to) to finance book donations, but setting up
something like that will take time and Senate approval. By initially
focusing on individual donations, we can get this started much more quickly.

I'll be more than happy to come up with a web page design, which we can
submit to the NR web master for inclusion in the NR site.

Once we agree on the text of the plate, I also don't mind whipping up
some design ideas for that as well. I think we should have 3-4 different
sizes available to fit different books.

Valete bene,

Hadrianus

Timothy P. Gallagher wrote:

> Salve L. Modius Kaelus et al
>
> Ok everybody take a deep breath. This "draft" of a book plate is 2-3
> years old.
> I have already removed the micro- nation reference per the suggestions.
>
> We need to remember that while the original idea was mine, the project
> is OURS.
>
> What would you remove? Can a donation page ie for money be add to the
> website?
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
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"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39907 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Q. Fabius Allectus for QUAESTOR
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus: Quaestori Candidato: Q. Fabio Allecto SPD:

Salve, Quinte Fabi Allecte; salvete, Quirites!

I have seen your candidacy for the Questorship with great pleasure, and I would like to express my total support and best wishes.

I know Q. Fabius Allectus personally since this August, when we met in Provincia Pannonia, in my province, during the Ludi Savarienses, in which both Provincia Pannonia and the official legio of Provincia Italia (Legio I.Italica) participated. In this event, which took three days, we could meet and talk several times and I could see that Q. Fabius Allectus has all the good qualities and knowledge to be an excellent Quaestor of our Republic. He is a reenactor soldier of the Legio I. Italica, deep aware of the Roman military culture and experienced in the Roman way of life. His frequent reenactment actions adequately demonstrate his devotion to Nova Roma and on the ground of this personal acquaintance I myself take Q. Fabius Allectus into your confidence and commend him to be elected as Quaestor.

Vote Q. Fabius Allectus for Quaestor!
Q. FABIVM ALLECTUM QVAESTOREM R. P. O. F.: DIGNVS EST.


VALETE!
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
PRORAETOR PANNONIAE
ACCENSUS
SCRIBA TRIPLEX

"Fabio B." <peaceboy@...> ha scritto:
Avete, omnes!

I hereby announce my candidacy for Quaestor.

Since I was a baby, I always thought to be born in a wrong era! :-)
My roman name is Quintus Fabius Allectus, 21 y.o. and I'm from Provincia
Italia. I'm also a proud and enthusiastic miles of Legio I Italica. I have a
diploma in Tourism Management and now I'm studying acting and dubbing, even
if I'm still attending a foreign languages course at Milan State University.
At the moment I have the treasurery role in a Milan local association.

I support Libra Alliance and think it's doing and will do the best to
improve our republic.
In add, it's my strength convintion that culture must belong to all, not
only to a restricted circle of people.


Valete Optime,

Qvintvs Fabivs Allectvs (aka Alecto)
Pater Familias Fabiae Alectae
Civis NovaRomanus Italicus, tribu Pupinia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Miles Legio I Italica - Villadose (RO) - http://www.legio-i-italica.it
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Cnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
Propraetor Provinciae Pannoniae
Accensus Consulis Fr. Apuli Caesaris
Scriba Aedilis Curulis L. Iulii Sullae
Scriba Interpretis Linguae Latinae Tulliae Scholasticae Senior
Scriba Magistri Araneari C. Minuci Scaevolae Iunior
Sodalis Sodalitatis Latinitatis
Latinista, Classicus Philologus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39908 From: Your Name Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus for Consul
Salvete,

I attempted to endorse Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus' candidacy last
week, but I have been labouring on an ancient laptop since my desk unit
was taken ill, and the ether must have consumed it.

When Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus was a Plebeian, I had the priviledge
of working with him as Tribune. I found Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus a
most thoughtful, pious and ethical individual. He faced difficult
issues squarely and never allowed passion to prevent him from doing
what he knew was the right course of action.

I have the highest admiration for Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus and am
convinced he will serve Nova Roma to the very best of his abilities.

valete,
--
Julilla Sempronia Magna, Senator
Propraetrix, Provincia America Boreoccidentalis
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39909 From: spqr_severus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Yet another returning citizen back home
Salve Citizens-

I, too left some years ago, due to obligations after the 9/11 mess,
but with my duties done I have returned home to re-join my Nation, and
to serve her, and her Legions!

Quintus Moravius Severus

(was Quintus Augustus)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39910 From: Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Welcome Home, brother! It's good to have you back!
~Arnamentia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "spqr_severus" <kreick@g...> wrote:
>
> Salve Citizens-
>
> I, too left some years ago, due to obligations after the 9/11 mess,
> but with my duties done I have returned home to re-join my Nation,
and
> to serve her, and her Legions!
>
> Quintus Moravius Severus
>
> (was Quintus Augustus)
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39911 From: publius_claudius_caecus Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Salve,

Welcome home Quintus! Coming from a citizen who just returned from a
four year NR absence and I understand your enthusiasm to get back to
get back into things here in the republic. Isn't it pleasant to see
Nova Roma prospering after leaving her for so long?

Once again, welcome back!

Vale,

Publius Claudius Caecus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "spqr_severus" <kreick@g...> wrote:
>
> Salve Citizens-
>
> I, too left some years ago, due to obligations after the 9/11 mess,
> but with my duties done I have returned home to re-join my Nation, and
> to serve her, and her Legions!
>
> Quintus Moravius Severus
>
> (was Quintus Augustus)
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39912 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Salvete Publi Claudi Caece et Quinte Moravi Severi,

I see you two gentlemen were before my time here but it is great to
see some of the "core" type citizens returning to NR. Welcome home!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus












--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "publius_claudius_caecus"
<publius_claudius_caecus@y...> wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> Welcome home Quintus! Coming from a citizen who just returned from
a
> four year NR absence and I understand your enthusiasm to get back
to
> get back into things here in the republic. Isn't it pleasant to see
> Nova Roma prospering after leaving her for so long?
>
> Once again, welcome back!
>
> Vale,
>
> Publius Claudius Caecus
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "spqr_severus" <kreick@g...>
wrote:
> >
> > Salve Citizens-
> >
> > I, too left some years ago, due to obligations after the 9/11
mess,
> > but with my duties done I have returned home to re-join my
Nation, and
> > to serve her, and her Legions!
> >
> > Quintus Moravius Severus
> >
> > (was Quintus Augustus)
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39913 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Salvete omnes,

I am pleased to see that Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa is running for
Tribune this year. He has been a very dedicated citizen to Nova Roma
and served in the office of Quaetor before.

He is currently Procurator in our province of Canada Occidentalis.
Gaius has been terrific help here builfing up our websites and
keeping on top of all the issues and glitches. He is very reliable
and accopmlishes every goal he sets out to achieve, his last setting
up a NR themed store and becoming a member of the Equestrian order.
Another thing is that I know him in person and would trust him with
any task or financial dealings. On a number of occasions he put
money out of his own pocket to help our province expand our
websites. Presently he is back at university building a contact base
there and shall be helping with the "Go Roman" project. He is always
easy to contact and gets back to you quickly.

Based on his interest, dedication, reliability and accopmlishments,
I urge all citizens to support Agrippa's bid for the office of
Tribune; I can guarentee we will not be sorry!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus

Propraetor Canada Occidentalis

Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39914 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Gnaeus Salvius Astur - Tribune Endorsement
Salvete omnes,

It is good and fortunate that this prominent citizen has decided to
bid for the office of Tribune. His experience in NR is second to none
and I served under him as Accensus in his Consulship through 2004.

Not only has he served in his political offices but he has never been
afraid to take a lot of tasks on his plate behind the scenes including
duties in his Hispania province and the Thules Academy.

Lets not overlook Gnaeus Salvius Astur. It shall be a great benefit
for all of us to see him as Tribune for 2006!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39915 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Book Donation Project Bookplates
C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete!

I've come up with a basic (English) bookplate design based on the
original by Tiberius Galerius Paulinus. It is designed to be printed on
a 3.5" wide x 5" tall adhesive label. In North America it would be the
Avery® 5168 label sheet (4 per sheet). This is a good size that will fit
most books, and uses a standard, easily available label sheet. If any
citizens would like to come up with versions in their local languages
and using a local label format that would be fantastic. Any suggestions
to the design would also be appreciated as this is just a draft.
Eventually I'd like to have a few different versions (and sizes) to give
the person donating the book some choice.

The bookplate can be found in the files section of the Nova Roma Yahoo
Groups website in the NR Book Donation Project folder. I have uploaded
two versions: one in rich text format (*.rtf) and one in MS Works format
(*.wps).

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/files

Valete bene,

Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39916 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Book Donation Project Bookplates
Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix

Very nice work!!! Do you think the Latin version of the quote would also fit?

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix<mailto:c.minucius.hadrianus@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: spqr753@...<mailto:spqr753@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Book Donation Project Bookplates


C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete!

I've come up with a basic (English) bookplate design based on the
original by Tiberius Galerius Paulinus. It is designed to be printed on
a 3.5" wide x 5" tall adhesive label. In North America it would be the
Avery® 5168 label sheet (4 per sheet). This is a good size that will fit
most books, and uses a standard, easily available label sheet. If any
citizens would like to come up with versions in their local languages
and using a local label format that would be fantastic. Any suggestions
to the design would also be appreciated as this is just a draft.
Eventually I'd like to have a few different versions (and sizes) to give
the person donating the book some choice.

The bookplate can be found in the files section of the Nova Roma Yahoo
Groups website in the NR Book Donation Project folder. I have uploaded
two versions: one in rich text format (*.rtf) and one in MS Works format
(*.wps).

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/files<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/files>

Valete bene,

Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievment of these people I fix neither spatial boundries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aenied/ I.278,279



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39917 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2005-11-27
Subject: Re: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Thank you for your kind words.

Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa

"Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@...> wrote:
Salvete omnes,

I am pleased to see that Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa is running for
Tribune this year. He has been a very dedicated citizen to Nova Roma
and served in the office of Quaetor before.

He is currently Procurator in our province of Canada Occidentalis.
Gaius has been terrific help here builfing up our websites and
keeping on top of all the issues and glitches. He is very reliable
and accopmlishes every goal he sets out to achieve, his last setting
up a NR themed store and becoming a member of the Equestrian order.
Another thing is that I know him in person and would trust him with
any task or financial dealings. On a number of occasions he put
money out of his own pocket to help our province expand our
websites. Presently he is back at university building a contact base
there and shall be helping with the "Go Roman" project. He is always
easy to contact and gets back to you quickly.

Based on his interest, dedication, reliability and accopmlishments,
I urge all citizens to support Agrippa's bid for the office of
Tribune; I can guarentee we will not be sorry!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus

Propraetor Canada Occidentalis

Quaestor







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39918 From: raymond fuentes Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
WHO are you people?
--- Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<publius_claudius_caecus@...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> Welcome home Quintus! Coming from a citizen who just
returned from a
> four year NR absence and I understand your
enthusiasm to get back to
> get back into things here in the republic. Isn't it
pleasant to see
> Nova Roma prospering after leaving her for so long?
>
> Once again, welcome back!
>
> Vale,
>
> Publius Claudius Caecus
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "spqr_severus"
<kreick@g...> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Citizens-
> >
> > I, too left some years ago, due to obligations
after the 9/11 mess,
> > but with my duties done I have returned home to
re-join my Nation, and
> > to serve her, and her Legions!
> >
> > Quintus Moravius Severus
> >
> > (was Quintus Augustus)
> >
>
>
>


S P Q R

Fidelis Ad Mortem.

Marcvs Flavivs Fides
Roman Citizen






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39919 From: Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Support of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Salvete Omnes,

As Aedilician Quaestor, I worked with Quaestor Paulinus and I can say
that our dealings were excellent: Paulinus is a trustworthy man,
serious and consciencious in his public office. I wish him good luck
in his projects to bring Nova-Roma more closer to the ancient Roman Ideal.

Valete,

Lucius Rutilius Minervalis
Aedilician Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39920 From: Lucius Rutilius Minervalis Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Magister Aranearius ?
Salvete Omnes,

I am anxious to see that there is no cadidate for the office of
Magister Aranearius, a very significant office for an Internet
community like ours. Besides, I would find normal that there are for
this office both a holder and a substitute: because if we had the
chance to have up to now very qualified men at this office, it already
happened that those had to leave their functions earlier than
envisaged. And Nova-Roma is a too significant community today to be
at the mercy of such incidents.

Valete,

Lucius Rutilius Minervalis
Aedilician Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39921 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Welcome back
A. Apollonius P. Caeco Q. Moravio omnibusque sal.

Welcome back, both of you. It's always good to see
people returning from the barbarian wilderness. :)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39922 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidacy of Tullia Scholastica
A. Apollonius C. Equitio omnibusque sal.

> More like
>
> "PRE-com-mitya-LIST-ic-ly"
>
> The accents are
>
> "DAH dah dah DAH dah dah" (the dactyls in dimeter)
>
> You sorta have to run through the "mitya" bit to get
> to the "LIST" bit
> - almost like a triplet within dactylic form.

Hmm... the only way I can get that to work is by
saying

"PRE-com-itch-LIST-ic-ly"

... which involves losing 30% of the original
syllables. But hey, you're the poet. :)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39923 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Welcome back
C. Equitius Cato P. Caeco Q. Moravio S.P.D.

Ditto

Valete bene,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
>
> A. Apollonius P. Caeco Q. Moravio omnibusque sal.
>
> Welcome back, both of you. It's always good to see
> people returning from the barbarian wilderness. :)
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________
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>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39924 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
C. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.

Salvete omnes.

Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa is another citizen with whom first I sparred,
then began to work with, on the creation of a new coin. In the course
of that work (almost finished)--- almost a year --- I have come to
greatly respect him as a hard-working and dedicated citizen. Once
again, it is a matter more of getting work done than agreeing with
everything someone says. I'm sure that in the future Vipsanius
Agrippa & I will disagree again --- and I very strongly support his
bid for the tribunate :-)

Valete bene,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39925 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salve, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis; salvete, omnes.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:32:49AM -0000, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am anxious to see that there is no cadidate for the office of
> Magister Aranearius, a very significant office for an Internet
> community like ours. Besides, I would find normal that there are for
> this office both a holder and a substitute: because if we had the
> chance to have up to now very qualified men at this office, it already
> happened that those had to leave their functions earlier than
> envisaged. And Nova-Roma is a too significant community today to be
> at the mercy of such incidents.

I can only agree, fervently.

Quirites, I have volunteered to temporarily accept this post because
Nova Roma desperately needed a webmaster. My current personal and
business obligations are such that I cannot, in good conscience, carry
out the duties of this position after the end of the year - it's just
not possible. Unless someone comes forward, Nova Roma will have no
webmaster after these elections.

I can assure you, with full knowledge, that this would spell the end of
Nova Roma as it is in fairly short order. Without a webmaster, there are
no elections, there's no means of fixing a large class of database
errors, there's no way to implement any of the laws that affect how the
citizen data is collected or processed, there's no means of adding any
laws to the Tabularium - all or most of the business of Nova Roma either
comes to a grinding halt or barely limps along in those cases where the
necessary action can be put off.

I also fully agree that there must be a minimum of _two_ people involved
in this job. Without that, there's no backup if something happens to the
webmaster, and there's no "carrying forward" of the accumulated
knowledge. This means that the new webmaster has to re-learn everything
that the old one spent time learning, which is a waste and an
unnecessary workload. I would further suggest that the terms of these
offices should be staggered, if possible - i.e., a senior webmaster
should be elected at this time, and an apprentice webmaster (i.e.,
someone who doesn't have the skills but would like to learn them)
elected six months later... or some variation of this.


Valete, quirites.
Caius Minucius Scaevola
Magister Aranearius
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39926 From: C·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Public Support for Quintus Fabius Allectus's candidacy
CAIVS·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS·PROPRÆTOR·BRASILIÆ·OMNIBVS·CIVIBUS·S·P·D

I'm very happy with Quintus Fabius Allectus's candidacy, and I'm sure
that he has all the capacities to be an excelent QUESTOR.

So, I express my public support to him and ask to all citizens to
vote in Quintus Fabius Allectus for QUESTOR position.

My candidates for the elections (2006)

CENSOR...............:
CONSUL...............:
PRAETOR..............:
TRIBUNUS PLEBIS......:
AEDILIS CURULES......:
AEDILIS PLEBIS.......:
QUAESTOR.............:
====> Titus Marcius Felix
====> Caius Arminius Reccanellus
====> Quintus Fabius Allectus
MAGISTER ARANEARIUS..:
EDITOR COMMENTARIORUM:
ROGATORES............:
====> Aula Tullia Scholastica
DIRIBITORES..........:
CUSTODES.............:

Valete
C·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS
PROPRAETOR·PROVINCIAE·BRASILIAE
"Quousque tandem, Lula, abutere patientia nostra?"



----- Original Message -----
From: Fabio B.
To: NR_Main List
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:26 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Candidacy for Quaestor
Avete, omnes!
I hereby announce my candidacy for Quaestor.
Since I was a baby, I always thought to be born in a wrong era! :-)
My roman name is Quintus Fabius Allectus, 21 y.o. and I'm from
Provincia
Italia. I'm also a proud and enthusiastic miles of Legio I Italica. I
have a diploma in Tourism Management and now I'm studying acting and
dubbing, even if I'm still attending a foreign languages course at
Milan State University.
At the moment I have the treasurery role in a Milan local association.
I support Libra Alliance and think it's doing and will do the best to
improve our republic.
In add, it's my strength convintion that culture must belong to all,
not
only to a restricted circle of people.
Valete Optime,
Qvintvs Fabivs Allectvs (aka Alecto)
Pater Familias Fabiae Alectae
Civis NovaRomanus Italicus, tribu Pupinia - http://italia.novaroma.org
Miles Legio I Italica - Villadose (RO) - http://www.legio-i-italica.it
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39927 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: a.d. IV Kal. Dec.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem IV Kalendas Decembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"Some authorities state that this war was managed by the consuls and
it was they who celebrated the triumph over the Samnites, and further
that Fabius invaded Apulia and brought away great quantities of spoil.
There is no discrepancy as to A. Cornelius having been Dictator that
year, the only doubt is whether he was appointed to conduct the war,
or whether, owing to the serious illness of L. Plautius, the praetor,
he was appointed to give the signal for starting the chariot races,
and after discharging this not very noteworthy function resigned
office. It is difficult to decide which account or which authority to
prefer. I believe that the true history has been falsified by funeral
orations and lying inscriptions on the family busts, since each family
appropriates to itself an imaginary record of noble deeds and official
distinctions. It is at all events owing to this cause that so much
confusion has been introduced into the records of private careers and
public events. There is no writer of those times now extant who was
contemporary with the events he relates and whose authority,
therefore, can be depended upon." - Livy, History of Rome 8.40



"I am the goddess Sekhmet, and I take my seat upon the place by the
side of Amt-ur the great wind of heaven." - Book of the Dead, "The
Chapter of The Mouth"

"May the goddess Sekhmet raise me, and lift me up. Let me ascend into
heaven, let that which I command be performed in Het-ka-Ptah. I know
how to use my heart. I am master of my heart-case. I am master of my
hands and arms. I am master of my legs. I have the power to do that
which my KA desireth to do. My Heart-soul shall not be kept a prisoner
in my body at the gates of Amentet when I would go in in peace and
come forth in peace." - Book of the Dead, "The Chapter of Giving a
Heart to Osiris"

In ancient Egypt, today was held in honor of the goddess Sekhmet. The
ancient Egyptian goddess Sekhmet is known as the Eye of Ra. She is the
power that protects the good and annihilates the wicked. Sekhmet is
the wrathful form of Hathor (goddess of joy, music, dance, sexual
love, pregnancy and birth). With leonine head, female human body and
the strength of her father, she is the noontime sun --- intense
blinding heat.

To the Old Kingdom Egyptians, Nu was the divine father of the
primordal waters from whence Ra, the sun, came forth. Ra gave birth to
Shu, god of the wind, and Tefnut who was called "the spitter" because
she sent the rain. Together Shu and Tefnut were the Twins of our
heavenly constellations. Tefnut and Sekhmet both have human female
form with a head of the lion and both are recorded as daughters of Ra
by the Egyptians. Sekhmet is perhaps a later manifestation of Tefnut,
but in any event they are one and the same.

Sekhmet, goddess Hathor, is the daughter he plucked from his head and
sent out into the universe to avenge his anger. Nu spoke, "Let thine
Eye go forth against those who are rebels in the kingdom." Then the
gods spoke together, "Let thine eye go forth against these rebels.
When It cometh down from heaven, no human eye can be raised against
it." Sekhmet/Hathor, in the form of a lioness, hurled herself upon
the men who had rebelled against Ra. She attacked them with such fury
that the sun god feared she might exterminate the entire human race
and begged her to stop the carnage. She had no ears to hear it. So Ra
spilled 7,000 jugs containing a magic potion composed of beer and
pomegranate juice in her path. Sekhmet, mistook the red liquid for
human blood, lapped it up and become too drunk to continue the slaughter.

On the feast day of Sekhmet as many jugs of reddened beer were offered
as there were priestesses of the sun.

Valete bene!

Cato


SOURCES

Livy, Sekhmet (http://touregypt.net/godsofegypt/sekhmet2.htm)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39928 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salvete omnes,

I am not a an IT professional. However, I do manage my own website: www.northerncrane.net It is not all that sophisticated a website:-) I created it and manage it with FrontPage (2000). I learned how to do it solo - by trial and error. If this experience is enough to at least become the "junior" webmaster and "learn the ropes" and eventually become the webmaster I guess you found your man. If you'll have me.

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus
----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin A. Okopnik
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Magister Aranearius ?


Salve, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis; salvete, omnes.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:32:49AM -0000, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am anxious to see that there is no cadidate for the office of
> Magister Aranearius, a very significant office for an Internet
> community like ours. Besides, I would find normal that there are for
> this office both a holder and a substitute: because if we had the
> chance to have up to now very qualified men at this office, it already
> happened that those had to leave their functions earlier than
> envisaged. And Nova-Roma is a too significant community today to be
> at the mercy of such incidents.

I can only agree, fervently.

Quirites, I have volunteered to temporarily accept this post because
Nova Roma desperately needed a webmaster. My current personal and
business obligations are such that I cannot, in good conscience, carry
out the duties of this position after the end of the year - it's just
not possible. Unless someone comes forward, Nova Roma will have no
webmaster after these elections.

I can assure you, with full knowledge, that this would spell the end of
Nova Roma as it is in fairly short order. Without a webmaster, there are
no elections, there's no means of fixing a large class of database
errors, there's no way to implement any of the laws that affect how the
citizen data is collected or processed, there's no means of adding any
laws to the Tabularium - all or most of the business of Nova Roma either
comes to a grinding halt or barely limps along in those cases where the
necessary action can be put off.

I also fully agree that there must be a minimum of _two_ people involved
in this job. Without that, there's no backup if something happens to the
webmaster, and there's no "carrying forward" of the accumulated
knowledge. This means that the new webmaster has to re-learn everything
that the old one spent time learning, which is a waste and an
unnecessary workload. I would further suggest that the terms of these
offices should be staggered, if possible - i.e., a senior webmaster
should be elected at this time, and an apprentice webmaster (i.e.,
someone who doesn't have the skills but would like to learn them)
elected six months later... or some variation of this.


Valete, quirites.
Caius Minucius Scaevola
Magister Aranearius
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39929 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: SUPPORT FOR TIBERIUS GALERIUS PAULINUS
Salvete omnes,

I come to you today to ask for your support and vote for Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for the office of Praetor.

This gentleman has proven to me that, like myself, he speaks from the heart and does not mince words. Not your typical "politician". If he tells us something is as it is, we can take it to the "bank". He is as honest as they come. He can only be an asset to our community in the office of Praetor.

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus
----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin A. Okopnik
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Magister Aranearius ?


Salve, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis; salvete, omnes.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:32:49AM -0000, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am anxious to see that there is no cadidate for the office of
> Magister Aranearius, a very significant office for an Internet
> community like ours. Besides, I would find normal that there are for
> this office both a holder and a substitute: because if we had the
> chance to have up to now very qualified men at this office, it already
> happened that those had to leave their functions earlier than
> envisaged. And Nova-Roma is a too significant community today to be
> at the mercy of such incidents.

I can only agree, fervently.

Quirites, I have volunteered to temporarily accept this post because
Nova Roma desperately needed a webmaster. My current personal and
business obligations are such that I cannot, in good conscience, carry
out the duties of this position after the end of the year - it's just
not possible. Unless someone comes forward, Nova Roma will have no
webmaster after these elections.

I can assure you, with full knowledge, that this would spell the end of
Nova Roma as it is in fairly short order. Without a webmaster, there are
no elections, there's no means of fixing a large class of database
errors, there's no way to implement any of the laws that affect how the
citizen data is collected or processed, there's no means of adding any
laws to the Tabularium - all or most of the business of Nova Roma either
comes to a grinding halt or barely limps along in those cases where the
necessary action can be put off.

I also fully agree that there must be a minimum of _two_ people involved
in this job. Without that, there's no backup if something happens to the
webmaster, and there's no "carrying forward" of the accumulated
knowledge. This means that the new webmaster has to re-learn everything
that the old one spent time learning, which is a waste and an
unnecessary workload. I would further suggest that the terms of these
offices should be staggered, if possible - i.e., a senior webmaster
should be elected at this time, and an apprentice webmaster (i.e.,
someone who doesn't have the skills but would like to learn them)
elected six months later... or some variation of this.


Valete, quirites.
Caius Minucius Scaevola
Magister Aranearius
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39930 From: Titus Marcius Felix Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Quintus Fabius Allectus for QUESTOR
TITVS MARCIVS FELIX OMNIBVS S.P.D

I express my public support to Quintus Fabius Allectus and ask to all citizens to vote in his for QUESTOR position.

Valete
Titus Marcius Felix
Questor candidate


My candidates for the elections (2006)
Meus candidatos para as eleições (2006)

CENSOR...............:
CONSUL...............:
PRAETOR..............:
TRIBUNUS PLEBIS......:
AEDILIS CURULES......:
AEDILIS PLEBIS.......:
QUAESTOR.............:
====> Titus Marcius Felix
====> Caius Arminius Reccanellus
====> Quintus Fabius Allectus
MAGISTER ARANEARIUS..:
EDITOR COMMENTARIORUM:
ROGATORES............:
====> Aula Tullia Scholastica
DIRIBITORES..........:
CUSTODES.............:






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39931 From: vespasian72001 Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Titus Flavius Vespasianus for QUAESTOR
Titus Flavius Vespasianus S. P. D.
I hereby announce my candidacy for the office of Quaestor.

I hve been a part of Nova Roma for over 2 years now, and am a tax-
paying citizen. Although this is my first official foray into Nova
Roman politics, I bring to this platform a plethora of experience.
I am outside manager of an orchard in Lacus Magni, and have been
with this business for nearly thirteen years. I have overseen and
directed the activities of a group of workers, even through my High
School years.
I perform closing account duties as well.

I am revealing all this to show that I hope to put forth the same
effort and dedication if elected as Quaestor. I am 21 years of age,
and although that sounds young, my business experience reveals that
my employers see that I am capable of assuming leadership roles.

As to my involvement in Nova Roma, I am currently trying to become
involved in the provincial government of Lacus Magni, and hope
ultimately to act as provencial sacerdos. I support the six-point
platform of the Libra Alliance wholeheartedly, and hope to advance
it as my role within Nova Roma grows.

I look forward to being your Quaestor!

Valete!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39932 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Salvete Citizens Of Nova Roma,

I am coming forward to announce my intention to run for Tribune of
The Plebians.

My name is Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (formally Lanius). I have been
a citizen of Nova Roma since July, 2002. In the macro world I work
as a geological consultant in the oil industry and with my wife am
involved in the executive of The Mexican Cultural Association Of as
a vocal who scrutinizes and criticizes if necessary, any new bi-
laws, projects or funding brought on by the executive.

In Res Publica I have served as scribe to Africa Septentrionalis
project, Legate to Canada Occidentalis, Accensus to Consul Astur
and am serving since 2004 as Propraetor Of Canada Occidentalis and
Quaestor for 2005. I keep active all the time on our lists and never
allow myself to get out of touch with what is going on.

Educational wise I have taken various courses in Thules Academy
covering Roman History, Nova Roman history, philosophy and Latin and
I am also studying Latin in Flavia Scholastica's course where I
intend to remain and come become proficient in Rome's mother tongue
as time goes on.

I certainly appreciate the duties and importance of this office of
Tribune where the rights and concerns of the Plebians are to be
protected. Nova Roma needs to re-group, build herself and flourish
at this point in time. What concerns many of us are issues such as
the lack of interest, participation on all levels of government and
activities, low morale, indifference and poor financial
contributions to Nova Roma with only 20% of our population
contributing to the treasury. It looks like history might repeat
itself this year with respect to a low candidate turn out for some
of our political offices.

One thing I clearly see is that some of our older and more prominent
citizens have more or less returned to the shadows. At the route of
this problem seems to be the issue of the importance of the Roman
religion. I realize that NR would not even be here if it had not
been for the religio. I have taken the oath to protect it in the
past and realize something has to be done in order to bridge any
gaps between practitioners and none practitioners.
It sounds to me like there are plans in the works for changes to our
constitution and I wish to be on top of such situations. I have
friends throughout NR that are both practitioners and non-
practitioners.

Here in NR I am always available and with our great technology I can
now keep in touch and on top of things even from the field. I will
guarantee that the power to veto legislation not be taken lightly
or the concerns of a citizen needing our help delayed or pushed to
the back burner. I do not jump into any great situation or crisis
without giving an ear to those concerned or take any action without
carefully consulting and considering the advice of my colleagues.

Citizens, your consideration of my bid to be a Tribune Of The
Plebians is greatly appreciated. Whatever the people of Nova Roma
decide, you can always be sure of my continuing help, dedication and
service to help in building our republic.

Respectfully,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39933 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salve, Marcus Cassius Philippus; salvete, omnes.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:42:28AM -0500, Sensei Phil Perez wrote:
> Salvete omnes,
>
> I am not a an IT professional. However, I do manage my own website:
> www.northerncrane.net It is not all that sophisticated a website:-) I
> created it and manage it with FrontPage (2000). I learned how to do it
> solo - by trial and error. If this experience is enough to at least
> become the "junior" webmaster and "learn the ropes" and eventually
> become the webmaster I guess you found your man. If you'll have me.

There remains only the small matter of convincing the Senate to create
the position. :) I, personally, would be highly gratified if they
managed it before these elections begin... but I don't know if that's
possible, given the way our system works. Perhaps an edict is necessary?
/Extremis malis extrema remedia/ - and I believe that this is indeed a
time for extraordinary measures.

Since I have previously (and recently) communicated my strong belief in
this necessary change to our top magistrates, and since I have full
confidence in their desire to improve Nova Roma, I'm hoping that we'll
see movement in this direction in the very near future.


Valete,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Inventas vitam iuvat excoluisse per artes.
Let us improve life through science and art.
-- Inscription on the Nobel Prize winner medals. After Vergil, "Aenis."
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39934 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Salvete onmes,

Although I am from a Patrician gens (by adoption) and cannot vote for the office of Tribune of the Plebians, I wholeheartedly endorse this candidate for the position. Other than Cato, few citizens are as active in our republic than Quintus Suetonius Paulinus. Even his changing of gens name started one of the most intriguing discussions on the ML list. Who can forget the Pilate and Jesus debates? :-)

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus
----- Original Message -----
From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus


Salvete Citizens Of Nova Roma,

I am coming forward to announce my intention to run for Tribune of
The Plebians.

My name is Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (formally Lanius). I have been
a citizen of Nova Roma since July, 2002. In the macro world I work
as a geological consultant in the oil industry and with my wife am
involved in the executive of The Mexican Cultural Association Of as
a vocal who scrutinizes and criticizes if necessary, any new bi-
laws, projects or funding brought on by the executive.

In Res Publica I have served as scribe to Africa Septentrionalis
project, Legate to Canada Occidentalis, Accensus to Consul Astur
and am serving since 2004 as Propraetor Of Canada Occidentalis and
Quaestor for 2005. I keep active all the time on our lists and never
allow myself to get out of touch with what is going on.

Educational wise I have taken various courses in Thules Academy
covering Roman History, Nova Roman history, philosophy and Latin and
I am also studying Latin in Flavia Scholastica's course where I
intend to remain and come become proficient in Rome's mother tongue
as time goes on.

I certainly appreciate the duties and importance of this office of
Tribune where the rights and concerns of the Plebians are to be
protected. Nova Roma needs to re-group, build herself and flourish
at this point in time. What concerns many of us are issues such as
the lack of interest, participation on all levels of government and
activities, low morale, indifference and poor financial
contributions to Nova Roma with only 20% of our population
contributing to the treasury. It looks like history might repeat
itself this year with respect to a low candidate turn out for some
of our political offices.

One thing I clearly see is that some of our older and more prominent
citizens have more or less returned to the shadows. At the route of
this problem seems to be the issue of the importance of the Roman
religion. I realize that NR would not even be here if it had not
been for the religio. I have taken the oath to protect it in the
past and realize something has to be done in order to bridge any
gaps between practitioners and none practitioners.
It sounds to me like there are plans in the works for changes to our
constitution and I wish to be on top of such situations. I have
friends throughout NR that are both practitioners and non-
practitioners.

Here in NR I am always available and with our great technology I can
now keep in touch and on top of things even from the field. I will
guarantee that the power to veto legislation not be taken lightly
or the concerns of a citizen needing our help delayed or pushed to
the back burner. I do not jump into any great situation or crisis
without giving an ear to those concerned or take any action without
carefully consulting and considering the advice of my colleagues.

Citizens, your consideration of my bid to be a Tribune Of The
Plebians is greatly appreciated. Whatever the people of Nova Roma
decide, you can always be sure of my continuing help, dedication and
service to help in building our republic.

Respectfully,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus








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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39935 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salve Scaevola,

At least you know I am willing to pitch in. I just don't feel qualified to hit the ground running. I would need to be educated in its intricacies first.

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus
----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin A. Okopnik
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Magister Aranearius ?


Salve, Marcus Cassius Philippus; salvete, omnes.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:42:28AM -0500, Sensei Phil Perez wrote:
> Salvete omnes,
>
> I am not a an IT professional. However, I do manage my own website:
> www.northerncrane.net It is not all that sophisticated a website:-) I
> created it and manage it with FrontPage (2000). I learned how to do it
> solo - by trial and error. If this experience is enough to at least
> become the "junior" webmaster and "learn the ropes" and eventually
> become the webmaster I guess you found your man. If you'll have me.

There remains only the small matter of convincing the Senate to create
the position. :) I, personally, would be highly gratified if they
managed it before these elections begin... but I don't know if that's
possible, given the way our system works. Perhaps an edict is necessary?
/Extremis malis extrema remedia/ - and I believe that this is indeed a
time for extraordinary measures.

Since I have previously (and recently) communicated my strong belief in
this necessary change to our top magistrates, and since I have full
confidence in their desire to improve Nova Roma, I'm hoping that we'll
see movement in this direction in the very near future.


Valete,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Inventas vitam iuvat excoluisse per artes.
Let us improve life through science and art.
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39936 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
A. Apollonius omnibus sal.

Quirites, you're probably getting bored with
candidates by now, so I shan't keep you long.

I have been a Roman citizen for three years. I have
served as accensus to two consules, K. Fabius Buteo
Quintilianus and C. Popillius Laenas, and as scriba to
a praetor, Cn. Salvius Astur. I was rogator last year
along with Flavius Galerius Aurelianus, C. Minucius
Hadrianus, and Stephanus Ullerius Venator. I have been
a member of the provincial government of Britannia for
two and a half years under two successive governors,
D. Junius Silanus and C. Livia. I am a member of the
staff of the Academia Thules and have taught a course
there on Roman republican law. Apart from carrying out
my duties in our republic I formerly studied ancient
history, gaining a degree in that subject from Oxford
University, and I am now studying to become a
barrister.

I ask you to vote for me to be quaestor. Thank you for listening.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39937 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
Salve A. Apolloni Corde,

LOL, I do not think we bored yet! Not all the vacancies are filled
with four days left to register so by then I hope we are bored to
the teeth.

Your great work, dedication and knowledge of Rome and Nova Roma are
unquestionable. You certainly have my vote and I urge all fellow
citizens to do the same and vote you in as quaestor!

Regads,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus





--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
>
> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Quirites, you're probably getting bored with
> candidates by now, so I shan't keep you long.
>
> I have been a Roman citizen for three years. I have
> served as accensus to two consules, K. Fabius Buteo
> Quintilianus and C. Popillius Laenas, and as scriba to
> a praetor, Cn. Salvius Astur. I was rogator last year
> along with Flavius Galerius Aurelianus, C. Minucius
> Hadrianus, and Stephanus Ullerius Venator. I have been
> a member of the provincial government of Britannia for
> two and a half years under two successive governors,
> D. Junius Silanus and C. Livia. I am a member of the
> staff of the Academia Thules and have taught a course
> there on Roman republican law. Apart from carrying out
> my duties in our republic I formerly studied ancient
> history, gaining a degree in that subject from Oxford
> University, and I am now studying to become a
> barrister.
>
> I ask you to vote for me to be quaestor. Thank you for listening.
>
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39938 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: NR Upcoming Election Platforms
A. Apollonius C. Aureliae omnibusque sal.

Since I'm now a candidate, I had better reply to the
points you offered to candidates. They were:

> 1. SUPPORT FOR A LEX TO GOVERN CONFLICT OF INTEREST
> CASES.
> A good many months of 2758 auc were torn up around a
> case
> that, viewed from the outside, would qualify as
> conflict of
> interest under a number of society guidelines.
> Candidates
> who are willing to work toward some formalization of
> procedures
> in cases of percieved conflict of interest will have
> my ear
> (the one that wasn't deafened in the row over the
> Provocatio).

Of course even if I'm elected quaestor I shan't be in
a position to do anything about this, because it's not
an office with the power to propose legislation. But
it's possible that I'd end up as quaestor to a
legislative magistrate who might ask my opinion, and
here it is.

You're absolutely right that we had a problem this
year of the tribunes acting as judges of the
correctness of their own actions. "Nemo judex in causa
sua" ("Let no one be the judge of his own case") is a
fundamental maxim of modern law. I don't know whether
the phrase itself is Roman in origin, but the
principle was certainly known to the Romans. But I
think the real nature of the problem here is not that
the tribunes were acting as judges in their own case -
the real problem is that they were acting as judges at
all.

The tribunes of the ancient republic did not act as a
court and had neither the duty nor the power to make
rulings on matters of law. But this is precisely what
our tribunes this year have been doing. They
themselves are not to blame for this: they believe
(not unreasonably) that lex constitutiva itself
reqires them to do so. But this year's events have
shown that it is not a workable system. I think the
obvious solution is to change the lex constitutiva and
release the tribunes from their unhistorical role as a
sort of constitutional court. They are simply not
equipped to perform this role: they should be restored
to their historical role as protectors of the people
against the higher magistrates. For this reason I'm
very pleased to see Cn. Salvius running for tribune
with a promise to begin a debate on these issues.

> 2. SUPPORT FOR AN ADDITION TO THE DECLARATIO OF NOVA
> ROMA,
> STATING THAT NOVA ROMA OFFICIALLY DOES NOT CONDONE,
> AND IN FACT
> DENOUNCES, ANIMAL BLOOD SPORTS AND ANIMAL CRUELTY
> WITH THE SAME
> VIGOR THAT IT DENOUNCES SLAVERY AND THE OPPRESSION
> OF WOMEN.
> Given the virtual Ludi (yourself an avid
> particpant), there is
> ample room for the misperception that NR condones
> blood sports
> in real life. Because we claim to be a
> re-establishment of
> Republican Rome, where all three activities were
> common, it is
> important to distance Nova Roma from the third
> injustice in
> this list--animal blood sports and animal cruelty.

You later clarified:

> First, I must correct myself publically: the source
> of
> reference to NR's rejection of slavery and
> oppression of women
> is not in the Declaratio, but in the FAQ page for
> new citizens.

I think this clarification is important, because we
simply can't insert things into the declaratio. It's
not a legal text which can be amended in retrospect -
it's a historical document which said what it said at
the time when it said it, and as much as we may wish
it had said other things as well (or even in stead),
we must accept it as it is.

On your more general point, again this isn't something
I'd have a direct influence on, but I think it's
entirely reasonable to say on the website that the
republic doesn't condone cruelty to animals. I don't
personally see any religious problem with this, since
Roman sacrifice doesn't involve any cruelty, but of
course that's a matter for the pontifices to decide.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39939 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for Praetor
SALVETE QUIRITES !

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus is a man of honour. He was a member of
the jurry in all the ludi organized by Cohors Sullana in this year.
With these ocassions,I heard from him, the following words " I'm
ready to serve ! ".
And indeed, he is ready to serve.
He will have all my support for his candidacy.
Succes, Galeri Pauline !

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy P. Gallagher"
<spqr753@m...> wrote:
>
> Salve, Citizens of Nova Roma !
>
> I , Tiberius Galerius Paulinus respectfully come before you to ask
for your support your and vote for the office of Praetor. I have
asked for and received your support four times in the past and I ask
for it again. I have had the honor of serving you as Curator
Differium, Quaestor, Tribune and this year as a Consular Quaestor to
the illustrious Consul Gaius Popillius Laenas.
>
> I have endeavored to serve our Consuls diligently and to provide
the population of Nova Roma with updated lists of taxpayers and to
redress any problems that have arisen. I have held your offices in
trust and have given them back to you with the luster still intact
and I hope increased.
>
> I am 48 years old, and I have been a citizen of Nova Roma since
the 21st day of the Ianuarius 2755. I am employed as a teacher in
the macro world, teaching government and history in Mediatlantica
Provincia. I have the honor of serving our Censor Gnaeus Equitius
Marinus as a Legate in his capacity as Propraetor.
>
> I pledge to you to work as diligently as Praetor as I have in the
other magistracies you have entrusted to my care. I will endeavor
to fulfill the constitutional duty to "administer the law ", along
with my, colleague, in a judicial and unbiased manner and will
monitor the main list of Nova Roma in the same way. I will do so
without regard to individuals and will strive to apply the law
equally . I will also endeavor to perform all other duties of my
office according to the best of my abilities and understanding and
in adherence to the Constitution, and laws of Nova Roma .
>
> As Praetor I would like to work with the other Magistrates to
rewrite the Constitution as a "fundamental Lex, like the Twelve
tables , bringing it closer to the Roman ideal. This effort would
take into consideration any and all suggestions submitted to that
end. Along with my colleague, I would work to maintain a civil and
productive Forum ( List) and will moderate conduct as necessary
and in accordance with the laws and constitution of Nova Roma.
>
> I will continue to maintain the highest integrity and dedication
to the welfare of Nova Roma and her citizens.
>
> As I make my continuing journey along the Cursus Honorum I again
ask for your support in this election effort.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Candidate for Praetor
>
> Fortuna Favet Fortibus
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39940 From: claudius_petrus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Salve Marcus Flavius Fides,

Please excuse me for not introducing myself properly.

I was present in Nova Roma four years ago. Back then, I was very
active. I designed and maintained four NR related web sites and
redesigned portions of the main NR web site. I also held some offices
etc. However, due to some circumstances in 2755 a.u.c. which I will
not get into here, I decided to retire for the good of the republic
and myself.

I reside in the province of Canada Orientalis and like all of you love
ancient Rome and all things related. I am a student studying ancient
history in the evenings and medical science during the day. This
morning I just finished reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations which I
found quite inspiring.

That's all I can come up with at the moment. I hope this helps answer
your question.


- Publius Claudius Caecus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes
<praefectus2324@y...> wrote:
>
> WHO are you people?
>
> S P Q R
>
> Fidelis Ad Mortem.
>
> Marcvs Flavivs Fides
> Roman Citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39941 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Questions for candidates
A. Apollonius candidatis omnibusque sal.

Well, from the number of endorsements flying about
(thank you for yours, Q. Svetoni!) it looks like a lot
of people have already made up their minds how to
vote, but for the benefit of those who haven't I hope
some of the candidates will share their thoughts on
some of these questions.

First, a question for the candidates for consul:
you've both explained what you would like to promote
and encourage within Nova Roma, but could you explain
why you feel you need to be consul in order to do this
and what you hope to do which you will not be able to
do if you are not elected?

For the candidates for praetor: what is your attitude
to our judicial system? Should it be changed? Do we
need it at all? What will be your attitude to acting
as one of the magistrates in charge of the
administration of justice?

For the candidates for tribune: what do you think is
the principal function of the tribunes in our
republic? Do you think it should be changed?

For the candidates for aedile (both curule and
plebeian): what do you think our ludi should have more
of (if anything)?

And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
question: are you now or have you ever been a member
of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
group with political goals within our replublic?

There, that ought to do for starters. :)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39942 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salve, Marcus Cassius Philippus -

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 12:12:52PM -0500, Sensei Phil Perez wrote:
> Salve Scaevola,
>
> At least you know I am willing to pitch in. I just don't feel
> qualified to hit the ground running. I would need to be educated in
> its intricacies first.

Oh, that part of it is fun, as well as educational. It's getting all the
paperwork straight before it can be done that's the big hang-up at the
moment. :)

I had forgotten to mention it - thank you for volunteering.


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Ridentem dicere verum, quid vetat?
What prohibits us to tell the truth laughing (through a joke)?
-- Horace, "Satirae"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39943 From: raymond fuentes Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Yet another returning citizen back home
Welcome home. Before I found Nova Roma, I have ALWAYS felt Roman. I know how you feel. Again...welcome home.

claudius_petrus <claudius_petrus@...> wrote: Salve Marcus Flavius Fides,

Please excuse me for not introducing myself properly.

I was present in Nova Roma four years ago. Back then, I was very
active. I designed and maintained four NR related web sites and
redesigned portions of the main NR web site. I also held some offices
etc. However, due to some circumstances in 2755 a.u.c. which I will
not get into here, I decided to retire for the good of the republic
and myself.

I reside in the province of Canada Orientalis and like all of you love
ancient Rome and all things related. I am a student studying ancient
history in the evenings and medical science during the day. This
morning I just finished reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations which I
found quite inspiring.

That's all I can come up with at the moment. I hope this helps answer
your question.


- Publius Claudius Caecus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, raymond fuentes
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>
> WHO are you people?
>
> S P Q R
>
> Fidelis Ad Mortem.
>
> Marcvs Flavivs Fides
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39944 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Caius Curius Saturninus for Praetor
SALVETE OMNES !

Caius Curius Saturninus is a man who invested a lot of work in NR.
All the time I admired his dedication and his abilities. He was, and
he is a continuous source of inspiration for me, esspecially in the
web area.
In this year, I have talked a lot with him about the ludi, about the
games and about the provincial governments. All the time, he helped
me with good advices.
He will have my support for the praetorship.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

PS. Sometime he's doing beautiful roman things. One of these, in
this year, was his son Marcus.



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caius Curius Saturninus
<c.curius@a...> wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> I come to you here in a white toga. The reason to this toga
candida
> is that I have just informed our Consuls that I'm placing myself
as a
> candidate for Praetorship.
>
> For me Praetorship means duty to oversee the peace of our
official
> lists and speak and act for justice. Peace and justice means to
me,
> in the office I humbly seek to be elected into, freedom of
expression
> and a right to be treated in a civilized way. Moderation of the
main
> list is obviously the most visible part of the Praetorian duties.
I
> support neither too strict nor too loose policy regarding the
> mailinglist behaviour.
>
> I have served the res publica in many scriba and assistant
positions,
> some of the dearest for me being accensus of Consul and scriba
for
> Praetor. I have been appointed to Propraetorship of Thule
Province
> and elected to Quaestor and Tribune. In all these offices,
appointed
> and elected, I have done my best and believe I have also been
> succesful, but this is something for you to judge.
>
> In short I say you should consider voting me because I'm
qualified,
> motified and by my nature suitable for Praetorship which is about
> moderation also in the literal sense of the word.
>
> You can find out more information about me and my opinions on the
> webpage:
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/saturninus
>
> Valete,
>
> Caius Curius Saturninus
>
> C•CURIUM•PRAET•O•V•F
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/saturninus
>
> Tribunus Plebis
> Propraetor Provinciae Thules
> Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
>
> e-mail: c.curius@a...
> www.academiathules.org
> gsm: +358-50-3315279
> fax: +358-9-8754751
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39945 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
A. Apollonius omnibus sal.

And I suppose I'd better answer this one now:

> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

I recently went to see a very good production by the
Royal Shakespeare Company of "Sejanus his Fall" by Ben
Jonson (bear with me, this is going somewhere). The
play is set at the time of the reign of the emperor
Tiberius, during which a certain Cremutius Cordus, an
historian, was prosecuted for the crime of writing a
book in which he spoke favourably of Brutus and
Cassius, the assassins of Caesar. I was amused to
hear, in the opening scene of the play, the following:


NATTA: Who's that salutes your cousin?

LATIARIS: 'Tis one Cordus,
A gentleman of Rome; one that has writ
Annals of late, they say, and very well.

NATTA: Annals? Of what times?

LATIARIS: I think of Pompey's,
And Julius Caesar's; and so down to these.

NATTA: How stands he affected to the present state?
Is he or Drusian? Or Germanican?
Or ours? Or neutral?

LATIARIS: I know him not so far.


So, how stand I affected to the present state? Am I or
Libran, or Boni, or Moderati, or yours, or theirs, or
this or that?

No, am I not now, nor have I ever been, a member of
any such group.

To quote from a more modern piece of literature which
some of you may recognize, "I am not altogether on
anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my
side". :)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39946 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidatura Cn. Salvii Asturis
SALVETE OMNES !

I saw the work of Salvius Astur in his province. I talked a lot with
him about how to organize these kind of activities in my province.
And from him I have learned a lot of things about roman religion.
Astur is a wise man and he is very dedicated to romanitas. But you
all know that very well. In my turn, I saw that in august at Rome.
I'll give him all my support to the upcoming elections.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Salvius Astur
<cn.salvius.astur@g...> wrote:
>
> CN·SALVIVS·ASTVR·QVIRITIBVS·S·P·D
>
> Once again, I don the toga candida to adress you, citizens. I am
> presenting my candidacy for the tribunate in MMDCCLVIIII A.V.C
(2006
> CE).
>
> For those who do not know me, my name is Gnaeus Salvius Astur. I
have
> been a citizen of Nova Roma since the Idus Aprilis MMDCCLIIII
A.V.C.
> (April 2001). In these five years, I have served as praetor,
consul,
> senator, pontifex... and tribunus plebis. I have organized or
helped
> to organize many activities, including the Legio VIIII Hispana (the
> military re-enactment group of Provincia Hispania) and several
kinds
> of real life meetings -- and I intend, by the way, to organize or
to
> take part in many, many more. I have presented laws to the Comitia
> that were approved and still stand in the Tabularium. I have
written
> articles and discussed many subtleties. I have, in short, been here
> and there, generally having a good time.
>
> Some of you might actually be surprised to see me back in the
> political arena. "Why?" you may ask. "Why does this guy want to be
> tribunus plebis *again*? He has been quite busy in the last two
years,
> and he has not participated in the discussions of the main list as
> much as he used to do. He has been active, I'll grant you that, but
> mainly in non-political activities. What is he looking for now?" An
> explanation is needed, and one I will try to provide.
>
> As I said above, I was tribunus plebis once, a long, long time ago
> (that was in MMDDCLV A.V.C. or, like the peregrini say, in 2002).
At
> that time, very exciting and interesting things were happening with
> the tribunate. Nova Roma was right in the middle of a political
> revolution that aimed to bring back some of the democratic aspects
of
> the historical Roman constitution that were missing in Nova Roma. I
> will always remember the first time I presented a piece of
legislation
> to the Comitia, because that was the first time a tribunus plebis
> successfully did that in Nova Roma. I would dare to say that, in
> general terms, we succeeded to make Nova Roma a more democratic Res
> Publica and, at the same time, one that followed Roman tradition
more
> closely.
>
> However, we were obviously not able to accomplish *all* our goals
back
> then. In recent times, the tribunate has been again the source of
much
> discussion and unrest. Different people seem to have different
> opinions about what should be the role of the tribunes in Nova
Roma,
> and that difference of opinions is representing a hindrance to the
> progress of Nova Roma.
>
> If you decide to give me the opportunity to do it, I would like to
> revisit the idea of what should be the role of the Tribuni Plebis
in
> our Res Publica. To begin with, we all (me included) know much more
> about Ancient Rome than we did three years ago, and I think that we
> are in a much better position to understand the historical role of
the
> Tribuni Plebis than we were back then.
>
> I do not come with preconceived ideas. I would merely like to
guide a
> debate on the subject, as one of the persons that partly devised
the
> current situation, so that we can reach a reasonable agreement on
what
> the Tribuni Plebis should be. Once we have reached that agreement,
I
> would like to implement the necessary changes in our laws so that
our
> common concept of the role of the Tribuni Plebis is made clear.
>
> I think that the time has come for us all to settle, once and for
all,
> what should the Tribuni Plebis of Nova Roma be *for*. In order to
> complete this task, I ask you, citizens, to vote for me in the next
> elections.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
> S·V·B·E·E·V
>
> CN·SALVIVS·T·F·A·NEP·OVF·ASTVR·SCRIPSIT
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39947 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Salve A Apolloni Corde,

I'd love to see that play! On a more rslightly related comical note,
I do remember a scene from "I Claudius" where Tiberius suddenly gets
wind of Sejanus' conspiracy and consults Caligula(John Hurt). It is
more or less like:

Tiberius - Oh what has happend. We are in danger, perhaps finished!
Is there not a man with any integrity left in Rome we can trust?

Caligula - Ah, uncle! Instead of looking for a man of integrity, why
not seek out a man of ambition since it takes a dog to eat a dog?

Tiberius - Do you know of such a man who is reliable and be trusted
with our lives?

Caligula - Yes uncle, Marco, second in command of the Pretorian
Guard. I shall have Sejanus go to the senate thinking he is to be
promoted and honored when in reality he'll be denounced as a traitor
and and there Marco and his men will lie in wait to seize and arrest
him!

Tiberius - Yes but how do you know if Marco and his capabilities?

Caligula - Ah... well uncle, I have been sleeping with his wife!

Tiberius - Good gods, ooh, err, ah, is this the sort of decadence
and depravity Rome has come to; he, ah hasn't tried to kill you for
this out....

Caligula - No uncle, like I said... a man of ambition!

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
>
> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> And I suppose I'd better answer this one now:
>
> > And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> > question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> > of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> > group with political goals within our replublic?
>
> I recently went to see a very good production by the
> Royal Shakespeare Company of "Sejanus his Fall" by Ben
> Jonson (bear with me, this is going somewhere). The
> play is set at the time of the reign of the emperor
> Tiberius, during which a certain Cremutius Cordus, an
> historian, was prosecuted for the crime of writing a
> book in which he spoke favourably of Brutus and
> Cassius, the assassins of Caesar. I was amused to
> hear, in the opening scene of the play, the following:
>
>
> NATTA: Who's that salutes your cousin?
>
> LATIARIS: 'Tis one Cordus,
> A gentleman of Rome; one that has writ
> Annals of late, they say, and very well.
>
> NATTA: Annals? Of what times?
>
> LATIARIS: I think of Pompey's,
> And Julius Caesar's; and so down to these.
>
> NATTA: How stands he affected to the present state?
> Is he or Drusian? Or Germanican?
> Or ours? Or neutral?
>
> LATIARIS: I know him not so far.
>
>
> So, how stand I affected to the present state? Am I or
> Libran, or Boni, or Moderati, or yours, or theirs, or
> this or that?
>
> No, am I not now, nor have I ever been, a member of
> any such group.
>
> To quote from a more modern piece of literature which
> some of you may recognize, "I am not altogether on
> anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my
> side". :)
>
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39948 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: E-Curiam-Custodem-O-V-F
SALVETE !

In my opinnion Finnica is a person of facts. Without a lot of great
words she has a impressive work in NR. Meticulously and tenacious are
two good atributtes of her dedication.
I want to add my support for her in the next elections.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Emilia Curia Finnica <e.curia@a...>
wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> I'm offering myself to the duty of a Custos. I have served you as
> Aedilis Plebis earlier and ready to serve you again.
>
> Valete,
>
> Emilia Curia Finnica
> Scriba Araniae Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
> Senatrix
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39949 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Candidacy for Quaestor ( Allectus )
SALVETE OMNES !

Maybe Allectus it isn't very well known to the Forum. But I saw him
in a lot of NR groups. He is a young man dedicated to the roman
culture and history. And a member of one of the best Legio, Legio I
Italica.
At Rome, Allectus it was all the time in the middle of the events.
Friendly and honest, he help me and my provincial fellows to
understand a lot from the roman history.
I belive he will be a good quaestor.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Fabio B." <peaceboy@l...> wrote:
>
> Avete, omnes!
>
> I hereby announce my candidacy for Quaestor.
>
> Since I was a baby, I always thought to be born in a wrong era! :-)
> My roman name is Quintus Fabius Allectus, 21 y.o. and I'm from
Provincia
> Italia. I'm also a proud and enthusiastic miles of Legio I
Italica. I have a
> diploma in Tourism Management and now I'm studying acting and
dubbing, even
> if I'm still attending a foreign languages course at Milan State
University.
> At the moment I have the treasurery role in a Milan local
association.
>
> I support Libra Alliance and think it's doing and will do the best
to
> improve our republic.
> In add, it's my strength convintion that culture must belong to
all, not
> only to a restricted circle of people.
>
>
> Valete Optime,
>
> Qvintvs Fabivs Allectvs (aka Alecto)
> Pater Familias Fabiae Alectae
> Civis NovaRomanus Italicus, tribu Pupinia -
http://italia.novaroma.org
> Miles Legio I Italica - Villadose (RO) - http://www.legio-i-
italica.it
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Adiuvate libertate cogitandi
> De gustibus non est disputandum
> Vita est salus, fortitudo, vis et aliquantulum fortunae
> Vincit qui se vincit
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>
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>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39950 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: [Tribunes] declaration of candidacy ( Maior )
SALVETE OMNES !

I want to add my support for Hortensia Maior. I have worked with her
in this year in the Aedilis Curulis Iulius Sulla Cohors.
Very dedicated, she comes with good advices all the time. Our
debates was esspecially about roman religion and from her I learned
what it means to be a realy fighter. For that I want to thank you,
Hortensia Maior !

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, rory kirshner <rory12001@y...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Avete Quirites:
> I declare my candidacy for Plebian Aedile. I have been the
> Propraetrix of Hibernia, Scriba and then Caput Officina for Censor
> Buteo, scriba for Sulla, Tribuna Plebis.
> I have served Nova Roma sincerely & devotedly, especially
the
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39951 From: Kristoffer From Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Salve, A. Apolloni Corde.

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:
> For the candidates for praetor:
> what is your attitude to our judicial system?

My personal attitude is that Salvius Astur did a very thorough job when
compiling it.

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:
> Should it be changed?

That would be a question I would look into as Praetor. However, I doubt
there is a need, especially before testing it in practice.

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:
> Do we need it at all?

Yes, I believe we do, if not now, then certainly later. It is better to
have one and don't need it, than to not have one and need it.

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:
> What will be your attitude to acting
> as one of the magistrates in charge of the
> administration of justice?

I will endeavour to do a job as thorough as Salvius Astur did, if
possible, or at any rate guarantee reasonably quick responses to issues
and queries.

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:
> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

No. As I stated in my declaration of candidacy, I am a member of the
Libra Alliance. The Libra Alliance doesn't have political goals, we have
actual goals for strengthening the republic that we hope to attain
through hard work, as stated on our website:

http://www.fraelovdesign.it/libra/platform.htm

Vale, Titus Octavius Pius.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39952 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy for Quaestor ( Iul Caesar )
SALVETE QUIRITES !

My support for Gn. Iulius Caesar is only a small thing in comparison
with his work for me and my province.
With a great experience Gn.Iulius Caesar is a man with a good vision
of the development and growth of NR. His project " Go Roman " said
that.
Very kindly he answered all the time to my request and with his good
advices my work was very easy.
A few days ago he describe me as a builder. Yes, maybe I am. But
that because I learned from you. For that I respect you, and, I want
to announce my support for your candidacy.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
<gn_iulius_caesar@y...> wrote:
>
> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> I announce my candidacy for the office of Quaestor.
>
> I am 44 years old and am resident in Canada Occidentalis. I have
> held the office of Scriba Propraetoris and am currently a Legate
of
> that province. I am also Praefectus Retarius in the Sodalitas
> Militarium and Praefectus Retarius in Sodalitas Egressus.
> Additionally I was appointed to the role of Praefectus for the
> Outreach Program of Sodalitas Egressus and Dominus Praefectus of
the
> GO ROMAN project. I also have served this year as Accensus to the
> Consul Gaius Popillius Laenas. I have also been involved in the
> drafting of laws and am also paterfamilias of a fairly sizeable
> family in Nova Roma.
>
> I served 11 years in a United Kingdom police force and am
currently
> the manager of a Justice Department Special Investigation Unit. As
> well as being a "front line" police officer I was also responsible
> for preparing the report for a new policing area, station,
manpower
> and equipment, which involved months of research required by
central
> government. This required budgetary analysis and fiscal
projection.
>
> Within my current role I am responsible for managing a specific
unit
> budget of over $1 million, and also am involved in the planning
> process for another budget of well over $10 million. Procurement,
> financial analysis, projection, fraud control and asset management
> also fall under my purview, as well as the responsibility of
meeting
> a specific financial recovery target of over $2.5 million.
>
> I work frequently with the offices of the provincial Ombudsman and
> the Auditor General. I am also involved in the drafting of
statutes
> and regulations, as well as the creation of business plans,
policies
> and procedures. I also am responsible for critical incident
recovery
> policy management and serve on an appeals tribunals in job re-
> classification labour disputes. I have a educational background in
> computer language design and am actively involved in the running
of
> two family businesses.
>
> I therefore believe I possess the necessary range of skills to
> efficiently discharge the functions of Quaestor, in either a
> financial or administrative role.
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39953 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> For the candidates for tribune: what do you think is
> the principal function of the tribunes in our
> republic? Do you think it should be changed?
>
Salvete omnes,

The principle function for tribune according to our constitution:

"To pronounce intercessio (intercession; a veto) against the actions
of any other magistrate (with the exception of the dictator and the
interrex), Senatus consulta, magisterial edicta, religious decreta,
and leges passed by the comitia when the spirit and/or letter of
this Constitution or legally-enacted edicta or decreta, Senatus
Consulta or leges are being violated thereby; once a pronouncement
of intercessio has been made, the other Tribunes may, at their
discretion, state either their support for or their disagreement
with that intercessio.
Each Tribune may issue only one such declaration of support or
disagreement, but may change their declaration from one to the
other, should they wish to do so.
The initial pronouncement of intercessio by a Tribune shall count as
that Tribune's declaration of agreement.
Should the number or the Tribunes who choose to disagree with an
intercessio equal or exceed the number of Tribunes who choose to
support it, the intercessio shall be revoked.
Intercessio may not be imposed against statements of support for or
disagreement with a use of intercessio that are issued pursuant to
the preceding paragraph.
The issuance and function of intercessio shall be defined according
to procedures described by legislation passed by Comitia.
To pronounce intercessio (intercession; a veto) against another
Tribune using the same mechanism as described in paragraph IV.A.7.a.
above;
To be immune from intercessio pronounced by other magistrates,
except as described in paragraphs IV.A.7.a. and IV.A.7.b. above;
To be privy to the debates of the Senate, and keep the citizens
informed as to the subjects and results thereof, in such manner and
subject to such restrictions as may be defined by law;
To call the Senate to order;
To call the comitia plebis tributa to order, except when the
Patrician order shall constitute more than ten percent (10%) of the
total population, in which case the power shall be altered to
calling the comitia populi tributa to order;
To administer the law;

In a nutshell, the tribunes are there to be the champions of and
protect the citizens (initially plebians) from bad or controversial
legistation or action by the praetors or consuls. I have always seen
this as a great back up and safety valve so to speak in protecting
the constitution from abusive legistation.

I do not think the function of this institution needs to be changed.
>



> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?
>
>
No I have not. I am on the Libra Alliance site as an observer since
some there are some friends or people I worked with but I am not an
Alliance member. I agree and disagree with various ideas and
policies from all the parties.

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39954 From: Lucius Modius Kaelus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salve et salvete.

> There remains only the small matter of convincing the Senate to create
> the position. :) I, personally, would be highly gratified if they
> managed it before these elections begin... but I don't know if that's
> possible, given the way our system works. Perhaps an edict is necessary?

The position does exist, though without senate approval, as I am one
of two people who was awarded and currently holds the position;
basically, it's a position analagous to 'scribae'.

I've never been called to do anything in my position by the former
webmaster. He basically referred to it as a formality so that if he
had needed my help, it would make my ability to do so more fluid and I
would receive recognition for doing so. However, the capacity in which
I was hired was primarily for cosmetic (primarily graphical) changes
and does not extend beyond basic html, as I don't feel confident in
handling the database with my limited experience.

I don't see any problem in continuing this tradition, but it would
definately be utilitarian to expand the positions and organisational
aspects, and to ask the Senate for eventual approval as an official
magistracy.

Vale,
L.M. Kaelus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39955 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: [Tribunes] declaration of candidacy ( Maior )
Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete,

I would like to offer my full endorsement of Marca Hortensia Maior to the
office of Plebian Aedile.

I am sure that she has all the good qualities
and knowledge to be an excellent Plebian Aedile for our Republic.

Valete optime,

M•IVL•SEVERVS
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SOCIVS•CHORI•MVSARVM
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39956 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Support of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Salve Lucius Rutilius Minervalis

Thank you for your kind words.

I feel that our working relationship was also excellent and reflected a good group of Quaestors working for the betterment of the Republic.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Candidate for Praetor
----- Original Message -----
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To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:18 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Support of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


Salvete Omnes,

As Aedilician Quaestor, I worked with Quaestor Paulinus and I can say
that our dealings were excellent: Paulinus is a trustworthy man,
serious and consciencious in his public office. I wish him good luck
in his projects to bring Nova-Roma more closer to the ancient Roman Ideal.

Valete,

Lucius Rutilius Minervalis
Aedilician Quaestor





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39957 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve Consuls

If one or both of you would present this idea to the Senate for approval at the next meeting it would be most appreciated .

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix<mailto:c.minucius.hadrianus@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Book Donation Plan?


Salve Amice.

Timothy P. Gallagher wrote:

> Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix
>
> The book donation and book plate was suggested by me ; ) I even have
> the book plate designed
> and residing in my computer.
>
> Vale
>
Bravo! I think it's a great idea, and one that NR should start
promoting again. Here's a proposal:

Create a book donation program webpage for the NR site, with the book
plate in various formats available for download. Include a link to the
Nova Roma bookstore in the Macellum (an Amazon.com affiliate program)
that way people can purchase the book they plan on donating there and
send a % of the purchase price to NR's treasury. With the input of the
NR citizenry, create a "Suggested Book" list to give people some ideas
on good books to donate. Also create a list of book donors, with their
name, the book they donated, and the institution the book was given to.

I your the plate design, but you might want to edit it slightly to
remove an potentially controversial language.. perhaps something like this:

************************************************************************

"A room without a book is like a body without a soul."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero

"It does not matter how many books you have, but how good the books are
which you have"
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca

"A library is an arsenal of liberty."
--Unknown

"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture."
Just get people to stop reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury

"The person who does not read is no better off than the person who
cannot read".
--Abigail Van Buren

**Nova Roman Flag is placed here**

This book is presented as a gift from the Quirites of Nova Roma a
non-profit organization dedicated to the study and restoration of
ancient Roman religion, philosophy, language, culture and civilization.

Founded 2,750 years after the Eternal City itself, NOVA ROMA, seeks to
bring about a rebirth of classical Roman civilization, which stands as
the bedrock of Western culture. Nova Roma is involved in a variety of
activities related to our goal of promoting awareness of ancient Rome
through educational, religious and charitable projects.

If you would like more information on Nova Roma, please visit our web
site at: www.novaroma.org <http://www.novaroma.org/<http://www.novaroma.org/>> All you really
need in order to join is a love of all things Roman!

Please enjoy the Book

*******************************************************

I'd be glad to help out with this project if you'd like.

Vale bene,

--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39958 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - Tribune Endorsement
Thank you Cato for your comments.

And if anyone else is interested in donating or investing in the coin project, please join our list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nrcoins/

So far we have about 1300$ (US) collected.

Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa


gaiusequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
C. Equitius Cato quirites S.P.D.

Salvete omnes.

Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa is another citizen with whom first I sparred,
then began to work with, on the creation of a new coin. In the course
of that work (almost finished)--- almost a year --- I have come to
greatly respect him as a hard-working and dedicated citizen. Once
again, it is a matter more of getting work done than agreeing with
everything someone says. I'm sure that in the future Vipsanius
Agrippa & I will disagree again --- and I very strongly support his
bid for the tribunate :-)

Valete bene,

Cato






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39959 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
C. Equitius Cato A. Apollonio Cordo quiritibusque S.P.D.

Salve et salvete.

Corde, you wrote:

"And finally, for all candidates, my favourite question: are you now
or have you ever been a member of any political party, alliance,
faction, or other group with political goals within our [republic]?"

I have been a member of a very loose confederation of citizens known
in the last elections as the "Moderati". This loose-knit group came
together frankly as a response to undergoing what we felt was poor
treatment individually at the hands of certain citizens who counted
themselves among the group known as the "Boni".

It is very loose in that we have had no particular political agenda
per se, but saw each other more as a support group while we each found
firmer public footing within the Republic. We have disagreed on many
issues both publicly and privately, but the core issue remains: no
citizen, however new or inexperienced, should ever suffer
embarassment, ill-treatment, or threat from any other citizen, no
matter how experienced or highly-placed in the government. We may
have different visions of *how* to reach our goals, but we are all
striving towards the *same* goals.

I am also an observer on the "Amici Libra" List but have not asked,
nor have I been invited, to become a member of that group. I think
I'm too mouthy for them :-)

Vale et valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39960 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: SUPPORT FOR TIBERIUS GALERIUS PAULINUS
Salve Marcus Cassius Philippus

I am honored by your support and your words. I will endeavor to live up to them win or lose.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Candidate for Praetor
----- Original Message -----
From: Sensei Phil Perez<mailto:senseiphil@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Timothy P. Gallagher<mailto:spqr753@...>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: SUPPORT FOR TIBERIUS GALERIUS PAULINUS


Salvete omnes,

I come to you today to ask for your support and vote for Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for the office of Praetor.

This gentleman has proven to me that, like myself, he speaks from the heart and does not mince words. Not your typical "politician". If he tells us something is as it is, we can take it to the "bank". He is as honest as they come. He can only be an asset to our community in the office of Praetor.

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus
----- Original Message -----
From: Benjamin A. Okopnik<mailto:ben@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Magister Aranearius ?


Salve, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis; salvete, omnes.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:32:49AM -0000, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis wrote:
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am anxious to see that there is no cadidate for the office of
> Magister Aranearius, a very significant office for an Internet
> community like ours. Besides, I would find normal that there are for
> this office both a holder and a substitute: because if we had the
> chance to have up to now very qualified men at this office, it already
> happened that those had to leave their functions earlier than
> envisaged. And Nova-Roma is a too significant community today to be
> at the mercy of such incidents.

I can only agree, fervently.

Quirites, I have volunteered to temporarily accept this post because
Nova Roma desperately needed a webmaster. My current personal and
business obligations are such that I cannot, in good conscience, carry
out the duties of this position after the end of the year - it's just
not possible. Unless someone comes forward, Nova Roma will have no
webmaster after these elections.

I can assure you, with full knowledge, that this would spell the end of
Nova Roma as it is in fairly short order. Without a webmaster, there are
no elections, there's no means of fixing a large class of database
errors, there's no way to implement any of the laws that affect how the
citizen data is collected or processed, there's no means of adding any
laws to the Tabularium - all or most of the business of Nova Roma either
comes to a grinding halt or barely limps along in those cases where the
necessary action can be put off.

I also fully agree that there must be a minimum of _two_ people involved
in this job. Without that, there's no backup if something happens to the
webmaster, and there's no "carrying forward" of the accumulated
knowledge. This means that the new webmaster has to re-learn everything
that the old one spent time learning, which is a waste and an
unnecessary workload. I would further suggest that the terms of these
offices should be staggered, if possible - i.e., a senior webmaster
should be elected at this time, and an apprentice webmaster (i.e.,
someone who doesn't have the skills but would like to learn them)
elected six months later... or some variation of this.


Valete, quirites.
Caius Minucius Scaevola
Magister Aranearius
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39961 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Salve Romans

I would like to recommend to all the Plebeian citizens of Nova Roma that they vote for

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus for Tribune.

I have known Quintus Suetonius Paulinus for a number of years as well as anybody can
know anybody when they live at the opposite end of a continent.
But I do know him to be a man of integrity and one with a strong willingness to
work hard as he has as one of my co-Quaestor this year.

As Nova Roma has rightly evolved in to a world wide organization his
bilingual skills will serve him well. He speaks English and Spanish that
I know of and being Canadian he most likely also speaks French.
On top of that he is studding Latin.

As one who has had the honor of serving as Tribune I can not recommend the
election of Quintus Suetonius Paulinus as Tribune higher.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)<mailto:mjk@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus


Salvete Citizens Of Nova Roma,

I am coming forward to announce my intention to run for Tribune of
The Plebians.

My name is Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (formally Lanius). I have been
a citizen of Nova Roma since July, 2002. In the macro world I work
as a geological consultant in the oil industry and with my wife am
involved in the executive of The Mexican Cultural Association Of as
a vocal who scrutinizes and criticizes if necessary, any new bi-
laws, projects or funding brought on by the executive.

In Res Publica I have served as scribe to Africa Septentrionalis
project, Legate to Canada Occidentalis, Accensus to Consul Astur
and am serving since 2004 as Propraetor Of Canada Occidentalis and
Quaestor for 2005. I keep active all the time on our lists and never
allow myself to get out of touch with what is going on.

Educational wise I have taken various courses in Thules Academy
covering Roman History, Nova Roman history, philosophy and Latin and
I am also studying Latin in Flavia Scholastica's course where I
intend to remain and come become proficient in Rome's mother tongue
as time goes on.

I certainly appreciate the duties and importance of this office of
Tribune where the rights and concerns of the Plebians are to be
protected. Nova Roma needs to re-group, build herself and flourish
at this point in time. What concerns many of us are issues such as
the lack of interest, participation on all levels of government and
activities, low morale, indifference and poor financial
contributions to Nova Roma with only 20% of our population
contributing to the treasury. It looks like history might repeat
itself this year with respect to a low candidate turn out for some
of our political offices.

One thing I clearly see is that some of our older and more prominent
citizens have more or less returned to the shadows. At the route of
this problem seems to be the issue of the importance of the Roman
religion. I realize that NR would not even be here if it had not
been for the religio. I have taken the oath to protect it in the
past and realize something has to be done in order to bridge any
gaps between practitioners and none practitioners.
It sounds to me like there are plans in the works for changes to our
constitution and I wish to be on top of such situations. I have
friends throughout NR that are both practitioners and non-
practitioners.

Here in NR I am always available and with our great technology I can
now keep in touch and on top of things even from the field. I will
guarantee that the power to veto legislation not be taken lightly
or the concerns of a citizen needing our help delayed or pushed to
the back burner. I do not jump into any great situation or crisis
without giving an ear to those concerned or take any action without
carefully consulting and considering the advice of my colleagues.

Citizens, your consideration of my bid to be a Tribune Of The
Plebians is greatly appreciated. Whatever the people of Nova Roma
decide, you can always be sure of my continuing help, dedication and
service to help in building our republic.

Respectfully,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus








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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39962 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for Praetor
Salve Titus Iulius Sabinus

Thank you very much for you support.
It was an honor to help the Ludi in this small way.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Candidate for Praetor













----- Original Message -----
From: Titus Iulius Sabinus<mailto:iulius_sabinus@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:03 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus for Praetor


SALVETE QUIRITES !

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus is a man of honour. He was a member of
the jury in all the ludi organized by Cohors Sullana in this year.
With these ocassions,I heard from him, the following words " I'm
ready to serve ! ".
And indeed, he is ready to serve.
He will have all my support for his candidacy.
Succes, Galeri Pauline !

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy P. Gallagher"
<spqr753@m...> wrote:
>
> Salve, Citizens of Nova Roma !
>
> I , Tiberius Galerius Paulinus respectfully come before you to ask
for your support your and vote for the office of Praetor. I have
asked for and received your support four times in the past and I ask
for it again. I have had the honor of serving you as Curator
Differium, Quaestor, Tribune and this year as a Consular Quaestor to
the illustrious Consul Gaius Popillius Laenas.
>
> I have endeavored to serve our Consuls diligently and to provide
the population of Nova Roma with updated lists of taxpayers and to
redress any problems that have arisen. I have held your offices in
trust and have given them back to you with the luster still intact
and I hope increased.
>
> I am 48 years old, and I have been a citizen of Nova Roma since
the 21st day of the Ianuarius 2755. I am employed as a teacher in
the macro world, teaching government and history in Mediatlantica
Provincia. I have the honor of serving our Censor Gnaeus Equitius
Marinus as a Legate in his capacity as Propraetor.
>
> I pledge to you to work as diligently as Praetor as I have in the
other magistracies you have entrusted to my care. I will endeavor
to fulfill the constitutional duty to "administer the law ", along
with my, colleague, in a judicial and unbiased manner and will
monitor the main list of Nova Roma in the same way. I will do so
without regard to individuals and will strive to apply the law
equally . I will also endeavor to perform all other duties of my
office according to the best of my abilities and understanding and
in adherence to the Constitution, and laws of Nova Roma .
>
> As Praetor I would like to work with the other Magistrates to
rewrite the Constitution as a "fundamental Lex, like the Twelve
tables , bringing it closer to the Roman ideal. This effort would
take into consideration any and all suggestions submitted to that
end. Along with my colleague, I would work to maintain a civil and
productive Forum ( List) and will moderate conduct as necessary
and in accordance with the laws and constitution of Nova Roma.
>
> I will continue to maintain the highest integrity and dedication
to the welfare of Nova Roma and her citizens.
>
> As I make my continuing journey along the Cursus Honorum I again
ask for your support in this election effort.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Candidate for Praetor
>
> Fortuna Favet Fortibus
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39963 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
SALVE ET SALVETE !

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?>>>

I'm not and I had not been.
I'm a man of facts. For me important is to create something. In my
particular case, nice and interesting ludi. In my opinion our goal
is to do the things better. For that my friends are from all the
political areas. I have worked and I work with nice fellow citizens
who was Boni. I have worked and I work with nice fellow citizens
from Libra. With good results. I have only two things in my mind :
to continue and to progress.
A simple but honestly electoral platform.

VALE ET VALETE,
IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39964 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
I think that the role of a tribune within our republic is to adhere closely to the powers and responsibilities outlined in the Constitution, to work closely with the other 4 tribunes and listen to the people of Nova Roma whom we represent. As for any changes, I think that we should follow the model laid out for us by the ancients. This, however, begs the question of which time period is to be our model.

In the matter of the second question, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of any faction. In the past, I was subscribed to a conservative-leaning group list that has since been shut down due to inactivity.

Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa

"A. Apollonius Cordus" <a_apollonius_cordus@...> wrote:
A. Apollonius candidatis omnibusque sal.

Well, from the number of endorsements flying about
(thank you for yours, Q. Svetoni!) it looks like a lot
of people have already made up their minds how to
vote, but for the benefit of those who haven't I hope
some of the candidates will share their thoughts on
some of these questions.

First, a question for the candidates for consul:
you've both explained what you would like to promote
and encourage within Nova Roma, but could you explain
why you feel you need to be consul in order to do this
and what you hope to do which you will not be able to
do if you are not elected?

For the candidates for praetor: what is your attitude
to our judicial system? Should it be changed? Do we
need it at all? What will be your attitude to acting
as one of the magistrates in charge of the
administration of justice?

For the candidates for tribune: what do you think is
the principal function of the tribunes in our
republic? Do you think it should be changed?

For the candidates for aedile (both curule and
plebeian): what do you think our ludi should have more
of (if anything)?

And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
question: are you now or have you ever been a member
of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
group with political goals within our replublic?

There, that ought to do for starters. :)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39965 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Declaration of Candidacy 2759 A.U.C. ( Po )
SALVETE QUIRITES !

Sometime our mind has different conections to represent words,
facts, events and so on. When I'm thinking, for example, at the
verb " to work ", imediatelly, in my mind the Pompeia's image appear.
That is happen because I can't understand from where she has such a
great energy ! For what ? To create, to do, to have a result.
For many times when we can't find an answer, we renounce to find it.
We take the things how they are. In this case I only can say : "
That is Po ! ". And I'm glad because we can work together.
Let me, quirites, to add my support for Po.

VALE BENE,
IVL SABINVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "P. Minucia Tiberia"
<pompeia_minucia_tiberia@y...> wrote:
>
> Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.
>
> I approach you all now, in white stola, and with an earnest,
sincere heart and mind, requesting your consideration of my
candidacy at the cista as Consul Novae Romae 2759 A.U.C.
>
> I have been a citizen since Ian. 2000.
>
> I have been privileged to participate in various areas of
activity in NR, which I've enjoyed thoroughly, and from which I've
had the pleasure of learning much from fellow citizens and
magistrates more learned than myself. I was Scriba to Marcus
Minucius Tiberius Audens Consul, Accensus to Caeso Fabius Buteo
Quintilianus Consul, and also this year to Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Consul.
>
> I have been a Scriba for the past two years to Curule Aediles
Marcus Iulius Perusianus and Lucius Iulius Sulla, respectively. I
have participated in Ludi events, and in fundraising for the Magna
Mater Project, and in editing academic texts for the Magna Mater
website. I was also Scriba to Priscilla Vedia Serena Curatrix
Sermona (list moderator) in 2001.
>
> I am an officer in Sodalitas Militarium and Sodalitas Egressus.
I am currently serving as Propraetrix Canada Orientalis, a position
I've also held in the past, and I was honoured and grateful to be
adlected to the Senate this year by our Censors (Thank you).
>
> I am a member of the Libra Alliance.
>
> What has this gained me? Well, alot of knowledge, friendships
and treasured memories. But I believe past activity has also
furnished me with the experience and personal growth necessary to
take on the challenge of Consul.
>
>
> In analyzing the past three years, I feel at ease in saying
that, although this year has by no means been absent of disputes,
I see it as a much less caustic year than 2003 and 2004. This, I
believe, is largely due to a cohesive government this year, elected
by the people, working together to promote religious, political and
social concordia, and consequently, growth and respect of Nova
Roma. ....and working to disallow abuses from the hands of a few
with self-serving agendae.
>
> Concordia does not mean that we should all think exactly
alike; rather, concordia is the art of applying mutually adopted
solutions to reconcile differences, and its also the art of
celebrating what we have in common. A decision to compromise where
possible. This is, I believe, how the ancients, despite living in a
more combative and volatile environment than we enjoy, became so
historically remarkable and admired. They were schooled in the art
of concordia. Concordia is the responsibility of all citizens,
nonne?...But it is facilitated in my view, by a proactive
government, motivated by positive aspirations , directing efforts
for the good of us all.
>
> I think this is best achieved with more interpersonal
communication, via face-to-face gatherings, and even organized
gatherings on line, or telephone, to promote collaboration regarding
meaningful, positive and enjoyable projects in Nova Roma.....The 'Go
Roman' Program comes to mind.... celebrating one another's talents
and uniqueness, ie 'celebrating' Romanitas... as opposed to
adopting a mindset of perseverating on what might be very minor
interpersonal quips.
>
>
> I applaud and will assist where possible as Consul in the
advocacy and mediation of more concise definition/policy regarding
the Religio...bridging gaps between the Collegium Pontificium and
those citizens who pursue interest in the Religio. I have a good
many friends who practise the Religio...not only as the Religio
Publica, but also as a personal conviction. Some of them have left
Nova Roma. Yet they have not discontinued their pursuit of the
Religio....just Nova Roma. Why? This issue to me, merits
examination in the near future, and perhaps definite goals, mission
statements; reforms might be merited to prevent unnecessary
alienation of those seeking the counsel and example of the CP. I
leave these issues in the hands of the Pontifices, but I am willing
to mediate, assist and advocate. Further, I will work where I can
to promote a warmer understanding between the Collegium Pontificium
and those citizens who do not practise the Religio privata, but yet
respect the rights
> of others to do so.
>
> I am against abolishing the constitution. I believe, though,
that portions of its language need to be revisited, for clarity. For
one thing, the document is necessary macronationally. It acts as
our necessary nonprofit corporation bylaws. (The ancients were not
accountable to a macronation and perhaps didn't need bylaws) It is
also a statement protecting the rights of our citizens, notably
their rights to be subject to their respective macronational laws.
It protects the Religio...it is the highest ruling document
protecting the Religio. And aside from a couple of prevailing leges
involving sanctity of Tribunes, and mandates of certain Ludi, it is
the *only* legal place in NR where the Religio is protected. It is
likewise, the* only* collective legal statement of the desired
attitude of our republic in our vision/approach to other religions,
that I can see. It is a general blueprint of our mos maiorum. It is
subject to change, but in keeping with the wishes of the people
> and 2/3 Senate ratification.
> Laws passed by comitia pursue the language and spirit of the
constitution. This document cannot be victim to the paper
shredder. This would be a disaster, quirites.
>
> This mail is long enough, and I am happy to discuss my opinions
with you in more detail if you wish Please write me if you have
further questions, and I'll return your mail as soon as possible.
>
>
> Valete
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39966 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Questions for the candidates for praetor
Salve Romans

Questions for the candidates for praetor: what is your attitude to our judicial system?

TGP My attitude to our judicial system is that it should reflect the best scholarship of Roman Republican judicial practices as we can get our hands on and implemented with the knowledge that over 2000 years have pasted since a Roman Republican order was in existence. We should always try the Roman Republican way first before anything else.

Should it be changed?

TGP I am not sure it needs to be changed but I would want to investigate it along with my colleague.

Do we need it at all?

TGP I am not sure that we do.

As we are all working to have more and more "real" world events and gatherings, all of which are covered by macro-national laws, that Nova Roma acknowledges, we might not need it until we were able to acquire the 108 acres called for in our Declaration. The Romans did have a practice of not repealing laws that no longer served a purpose they simply let them sit idle or allowed them to fall in to misuse. We could do the same until that time when a citizen felt that there was a need to use our judicial system so that justice might be done.

What will be your attitude to acting as one of the magistrates in charge of the administration of justice?

TGP As I stated in my announcement for Praetor:

I pledge to you to work as diligently as Praetor as I have in the other magistracies you have entrusted to my care. I will endeavor to fulfill the constitutional duty to "administer the law ", along with my, colleague, in a judicial and unbiased manner and will monitor the main list of Nova Roma in the same way. I will do so without regard to individuals and will strive to apply the law equally . I will also endeavor to perform all other duties of my office according to the best of my abilities and understanding and in adherence to the Constitution, and laws of Nova Roma .


And finally, for all candidates, my favorite question: are you now or have you ever been a member of any political party, alliance, faction, or other group with political goals within our republic?


TGP Contrary to what some citizens believe I am not now nor have I ever been a member
of any organized political party within Nova Roma, Boni or Libra.

I will add ( this is where I always get into trouble : ) ) that I do not find it "bad"
to be in any group or even in these two "political groupings" its also not "bad" not to be in one. I have voted for candidates who were Boni, I have voted for former members of the Boni and I have voted for members of the Libra Alliance. I have also voted for people who I believe had no political ties to any group. It should be noted that if one reads the Libra Alliance goals most citizens in Nova Roma, with or with membership in any political group can and do support them.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Candidate for Praetor





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39967 From: MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
M•CALIDIVS•GRACCHVS•QVIRITIBVS•S•P•D

SALVETE OMNES

May I most humbly add my sincere endorsement of QVINTVS SUETONIVS
PAVLINVS in his candidacy for the office of TRIBVNVS PLEBIS.

He has many fine qualities needed for this magistracy, I have found
him to be even in temperament, sincere in endeavour and enquiry,
reliable, pragmatic, reflective, not full of his own self
importance, a good listener and someone not above laughing at
himself nor introducing a little light hearted humour.

His has been a quiet but strong voice of reason at times of
difficult conflict on the ML. He has not been afraid to ask the
difficult question if needs be but has done so without rancour or
animosity. Equally, he is not too proud to ask questions or seek
advice. Added to this, his love of, and dedication to ROMA ÆTERNA
are,I believe, beyond doubt.

I am glad to say he is never far from the ML. I commmend him to you
all, this man has served Rome well and shall do so again as Tribune.

VALETE


GRACCHVS

TVVS• IN• SODILICIO• RES •PVBLICA• ROMANÆ

VERITAS•LVX•MEA



M•CALIDIVS•M•F•M•N•PAL•GRACCHVS

FR•AVLO•CÆSARI•CN•POPILLIO•LÆNƕCOSS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
(Michael Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:
> Salvete Citizens Of Nova Roma,
>
> I am coming forward to announce my intention to run for Tribune
of
> The Plebians.
>
> My name is Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (formally Lanius). I have
been
> a citizen of Nova Roma since July, 2002. In the macro world I work
> as a geological consultant in the oil industry and with my wife am
> involved in the executive of The Mexican Cultural Association Of
as
> a vocal who scrutinizes and criticizes if necessary, any new bi-
> laws, projects or funding brought on by the executive.
>
> In Res Publica I have served as scribe to Africa Septentrionalis
> project, Legate to Canada Occidentalis, Accensus to Consul Astur
> and am serving since 2004 as Propraetor Of Canada Occidentalis and
> Quaestor for 2005. I keep active all the time on our lists and
never
> allow myself to get out of touch with what is going on.
>
> Educational wise I have taken various courses in Thules Academy
> covering Roman History, Nova Roman history, philosophy and Latin
and
> I am also studying Latin in Flavia Scholastica's course where I
> intend to remain and come become proficient in Rome's mother
tongue
> as time goes on.
>
> I certainly appreciate the duties and importance of this office of
> Tribune where the rights and concerns of the Plebians are to be
> protected. Nova Roma needs to re-group, build herself and flourish
> at this point in time. What concerns many of us are issues such
as
> the lack of interest, participation on all levels of government
and
> activities, low morale, indifference and poor financial
> contributions to Nova Roma with only 20% of our population
> contributing to the treasury. It looks like history might repeat
> itself this year with respect to a low candidate turn out for some
> of our political offices.
>
> One thing I clearly see is that some of our older and more
prominent
> citizens have more or less returned to the shadows. At the route
of
> this problem seems to be the issue of the importance of the Roman
> religion. I realize that NR would not even be here if it had not
> been for the religio. I have taken the oath to protect it in the
> past and realize something has to be done in order to bridge any
> gaps between practitioners and none practitioners.
> It sounds to me like there are plans in the works for changes to
our
> constitution and I wish to be on top of such situations. I have
> friends throughout NR that are both practitioners and non-
> practitioners.
>
> Here in NR I am always available and with our great technology I
can
> now keep in touch and on top of things even from the field. I will
> guarantee that the power to veto legislation not be taken lightly
> or the concerns of a citizen needing our help delayed or pushed to
> the back burner. I do not jump into any great situation or crisis
> without giving an ear to those concerned or take any action
without
> carefully consulting and considering the advice of my colleagues.
>
> Citizens, your consideration of my bid to be a Tribune Of The
> Plebians is greatly appreciated. Whatever the people of Nova Roma
> decide, you can always be sure of my continuing help, dedication
and
> service to help in building our republic.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39968 From: Francesco Valenzano Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Book Donation Plan?
Salve Illustrus Paulinus,

I received your proposal and I find it interesting.
Please, would you send me a detailed (organization, time, expanses, sources, etc.) proposal? I should call the Senatus Consultum in December, if you send it to me in the next week I'll be able to read and consider it.
Thank You

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Consul



"Timothy P. Gallagher" <spqr753@...> ha scritto:
Salve Consuls

If one or both of you would present this idea to the Senate for approval at the next meeting it would be most appreciated .

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Book Donation Plan?


Salve Amice.

Timothy P. Gallagher wrote:

> Salve C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix
>
> The book donation and book plate was suggested by me ; ) I even have
> the book plate designed
> and residing in my computer.
>
> Vale
>
Bravo! I think it's a great idea, and one that NR should start
promoting again. Here's a proposal:

Create a book donation program webpage for the NR site, with the book
plate in various formats available for download. Include a link to the
Nova Roma bookstore in the Macellum (an Amazon.com affiliate program)
that way people can purchase the book they plan on donating there and
send a % of the purchase price to NR's treasury. With the input of the
NR citizenry, create a "Suggested Book" list to give people some ideas
on good books to donate. Also create a list of book donors, with their
name, the book they donated, and the institution the book was given to.

I your the plate design, but you might want to edit it slightly to
remove an potentially controversial language.. perhaps something like this:

************************************************************************

"A room without a book is like a body without a soul."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero

"It does not matter how many books you have, but how good the books are
which you have"
--Lucius Annaeus Seneca

"A library is an arsenal of liberty."
--Unknown

"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture."
Just get people to stop reading them.
-- Ray Bradbury

"The person who does not read is no better off than the person who
cannot read".
--Abigail Van Buren

**Nova Roman Flag is placed here**

This book is presented as a gift from the Quirites of Nova Roma a
non-profit organization dedicated to the study and restoration of
ancient Roman religion, philosophy, language, culture and civilization.

Founded 2,750 years after the Eternal City itself, NOVA ROMA, seeks to
bring about a rebirth of classical Roman civilization, which stands as
the bedrock of Western culture. Nova Roma is involved in a variety of
activities related to our goal of promoting awareness of ancient Rome
through educational, religious and charitable projects.

If you would like more information on Nova Roma, please visit our web
site at: www.novaroma.org <http://www.novaroma.org/> All you really
need in order to join is a love of all things Roman!

Please enjoy the Book

*******************************************************

I'd be glad to help out with this project if you'd like.

Vale bene,

--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39969 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Tribune Of The Plebians - Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
SALVETE QUIRITES !

My endorsement for Q. Suetonius Paulinus.

What I observed, in time, to the Forum ( and another ML ) about Q.
Suetonius Paulinus ?
He is a wise man. It is a true when he say " I do not jump into any
great situation or crisis without giving an ear to those concerned
or take any action without carefully consulting and considering the
advice of my colleagues"
He is a modest and honest man. It is true when he say " Whatever the
people of Nova Roma decide, you can always be sure of my continuing
help, dedication and service to help in building our republic."

I belive these words. All the time Q. Suetonius Paulinus have
demonstrated that. The Nova Roma plebeians will have a very
dedicated representative. Vote him !

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
(Michael Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Citizens Of Nova Roma,
>
> I am coming forward to announce my intention to run for Tribune
of
> The Plebians.
>
> My name is Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (formally Lanius). I have
been
> a citizen of Nova Roma since July, 2002. In the macro world I work
> as a geological consultant in the oil industry and with my wife am
> involved in the executive of The Mexican Cultural Association Of
as
> a vocal who scrutinizes and criticizes if necessary, any new bi-
> laws, projects or funding brought on by the executive.
>
> In Res Publica I have served as scribe to Africa Septentrionalis
> project, Legate to Canada Occidentalis, Accensus to Consul Astur
> and am serving since 2004 as Propraetor Of Canada Occidentalis and
> Quaestor for 2005. I keep active all the time on our lists and
never
> allow myself to get out of touch with what is going on.
>
> Educational wise I have taken various courses in Thules Academy
> covering Roman History, Nova Roman history, philosophy and Latin
and
> I am also studying Latin in Flavia Scholastica's course where I
> intend to remain and come become proficient in Rome's mother
tongue
> as time goes on.
>
> I certainly appreciate the duties and importance of this office of
> Tribune where the rights and concerns of the Plebians are to be
> protected. Nova Roma needs to re-group, build herself and flourish
> at this point in time. What concerns many of us are issues such
as
> the lack of interest, participation on all levels of government
and
> activities, low morale, indifference and poor financial
> contributions to Nova Roma with only 20% of our population
> contributing to the treasury. It looks like history might repeat
> itself this year with respect to a low candidate turn out for some
> of our political offices.
>
> One thing I clearly see is that some of our older and more
prominent
> citizens have more or less returned to the shadows. At the route
of
> this problem seems to be the issue of the importance of the Roman
> religion. I realize that NR would not even be here if it had not
> been for the religio. I have taken the oath to protect it in the
> past and realize something has to be done in order to bridge any
> gaps between practitioners and none practitioners.
> It sounds to me like there are plans in the works for changes to
our
> constitution and I wish to be on top of such situations. I have
> friends throughout NR that are both practitioners and non-
> practitioners.
>
> Here in NR I am always available and with our great technology I
can
> now keep in touch and on top of things even from the field. I will
> guarantee that the power to veto legislation not be taken lightly
> or the concerns of a citizen needing our help delayed or pushed to
> the back burner. I do not jump into any great situation or crisis
> without giving an ear to those concerned or take any action
without
> carefully consulting and considering the advice of my colleagues.
>
> Citizens, your consideration of my bid to be a Tribune Of The
> Plebians is greatly appreciated. Whatever the people of Nova Roma
> decide, you can always be sure of my continuing help, dedication
and
> service to help in building our republic.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39970 From: FAC Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Magister Aranearius ?
Salvete Omnes,

firstly I remember to the citizens that the office of Magister
Aranearius is available and there aren't candidates currently. So we
need a skilled webmaster availbale to cover a fundamental magistracy
for our organization.

Answering to this topic, I'm going to present to the Comitia a new
law about the Magister Aranearius, which would make sure (I hope)
the administration of the nova roman web infrastructures.
Unluckly it will be proposed during the current elections and it
will run (if it would pass) since the next year.
And unluckly your interesting suggestions come when the lex is yet
written. I'll try to consider and eventually insert them in my
proposal.

For the next year, as professional graphical and web designer I
propose my self to help the next elected Webmaster on the
improvememt of the official website.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Consul



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Modius Kaelus"
<xkaelusx@y...> wrote:
>
> Salve et salvete.
>
> > There remains only the small matter of convincing the Senate to
create
> > the position. :) I, personally, would be highly gratified if they
> > managed it before these elections begin... but I don't know if
that's
> > possible, given the way our system works. Perhaps an edict is
necessary?
>
> The position does exist, though without senate approval, as I am
one
> of two people who was awarded and currently holds the position;
> basically, it's a position analagous to 'scribae'.
>
> I've never been called to do anything in my position by the former
> webmaster. He basically referred to it as a formality so that if he
> had needed my help, it would make my ability to do so more fluid
and I
> would receive recognition for doing so. However, the capacity in
which
> I was hired was primarily for cosmetic (primarily graphical)
changes
> and does not extend beyond basic html, as I don't feel confident in
> handling the database with my limited experience.
>
> I don't see any problem in continuing this tradition, but it would
> definately be utilitarian to expand the positions and
organisational
> aspects, and to ask the Senate for eventual approval as an official
> magistracy.
>
> Vale,
> L.M. Kaelus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39971 From: FAC Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: list of candidates and call
Salvete Omnes,

the list of the current candidates for the next annual elections is
now updated at www.novaroma.org/election

Please check if your dates are correct.

As you can see there are many candidates for certain Offices, but we
have no candidates for other Magistracies.
We need:

- 1 QUAESTOR
- 1 MAGISTER ARANEARIUS
- 1 EDITOR COMMENTARIORUM
- 3 ROGATORES
- 4 DIRIBITORES
- 2 CUSTODES

Please hurry up and take the last places.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Consul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39972 From: Lucius Servilius Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Aedilis Curulis Questions
Salvete, Omnes

My question is to the current & candidates for Aedilis Curulis.

What actions would you take regarding the recent N.R. flag issue. Where citizens are ordering the flags, sending checks or money orders and never recieving either the flag their money back or even an e-mail regarding the order.

Valete,

Lucius Servilius.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39973 From: claudius_petrus Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Clarification
Salvete!

I have a question.

I am currently registered as capite censi. I would have paid my taxes
if I had returned from my four-year absence sooner. I will pay this
coming years tax gladly.

I doubt this is possible, but could I pay this years tax now? I would
love to get my feet wet again by running for editor commentariorum.

I know this probably unlikely, but I thought I would try asking just
to double check. No harm for a citizen wanting serve the republic to
ask, right?


- Publius Claudius Caecus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39974 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Thank you!
Salvete Marce Cssi Phillipe, Marce Claudi Gracche, Tiberi Galeri
Pauline et Tite Iuli Sabine!

I want to sincerely thank you all for your kind words of support and
cofidence for my bid to be Tribune. Looking forward to serving you and
Res Publica.

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39975 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Clarification
Salve Claudi Petre,

I am not sure on this one regarding ultimate deadlines but I want to
let you know that your interest helping so quickly upon your return
is greatly appreciated in my books. I'm sure your question will be
quickly answered. Do you have paypal where you can pay your tax
instantly?

Regards,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "claudius_petrus"
<claudius_petrus@y...> wrote:
>
> Salvete!
>
> I have a question.
>
> I am currently registered as capite censi. I would have paid my
taxes
> if I had returned from my four-year absence sooner. I will pay this
> coming years tax gladly.
>
> I doubt this is possible, but could I pay this years tax now? I
would
> love to get my feet wet again by running for editor commentariorum.
>
> I know this probably unlikely, but I thought I would try asking
just
> to double check. No harm for a citizen wanting serve the republic
to
> ask, right?
>
>
> - Publius Claudius Caecus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39976 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-28
Subject: Re: Clarification
Salve Publius Claudius Caecus

Yes you can pay your taxes for a given year at any time. You can use pay pal
I do not know how it would effect your voting as it may be too late to move you to a different century. You would have to talk that over with the Consuls

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Consular Quaestor
ie NR Tax collector
----- Original Message -----
From: claudius_petrus<mailto:claudius_petrus@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:55 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Clarification


Salvete!

I have a question.

I am currently registered as capite censi. I would have paid my taxes
if I had returned from my four-year absence sooner. I will pay this
coming years tax gladly.

I doubt this is possible, but could I pay this years tax now? I would
love to get my feet wet again by running for editor commentariorum.

I know this probably unlikely, but I thought I would try asking just
to double check. No harm for a citizen wanting serve the republic to
ask, right?


- Publius Claudius Caecus








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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39977 From: albmd323232 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Candidacy for MAGISTER ARANEARIUS (Webmaster)
Salvete,

I come before you now to declare my candidacy for magister aranearius
(webmaster). I have been asked to fill this important role, as I am
currently the webmaster for the Musarum.
http://www.freewebtown.com/musarum/

A little about me: I have been deeply immersed in the study of roman
culture for around 5 years now, having visited Rome twice, in addition
to other roman cities across europe. I am fascinated with Roman
architecture, and I am the musaeus of Apollo in the Musarum. I collect
Roman coins, read quite a bit, and enjoy photography. Ive also dabbled
in creative writing, and one of my stories, albiet in German, is on the
musarum site. I taught myself how to create and maintain webpages, both
through pure html code and also with software, around 8 years ago.

I will be on vacation until the middle of January, at which time I can
commence my service, if elected. I am also very approachable, and
online quite a bit. Lastly, I have stayed away from the various
fractions and heated debates in NR, remaining 'independent.'

Valete,
D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39978 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Taxpayer update
Salve Romans


The taxes for Decimus Claudius Aquilius for the years 2005 and 2006 have been paid.

He is now Assidui.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Consular Quaestor




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39979 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2216
Salve,

I'm glad to see questions like these before the elections.

I don't see any particular reason to change our judicial system at
the moment. If there would surface reasons to re-think this position
I of course would be willing to reconsider my views and evaluate the
issue again. And I think we do need it. There hasn't been any
research made but my impression is that after its introduction it has
by mere existence cut down possible violations, I believe it has had
a preventive effect. Equality and fairness of justice is what I
believe into when it comes administering the justice.

I have not ever been member of political party in NR or outside it,
nor have I considered to be. When it comes to question of beloning
into alliance, I'm member of Libra Alliance. Please read more from
our website: http://www.fraelovdesign.it/libra/index.htm

Vale,


On Nov 28, 2005, at 22:29 , Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:27:12 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "A. Apollonius Cordus" <a_apollonius_cordus@...>
> Subject: Questions for candidates
>
> A. Apollonius candidatis omnibusque sal.
>
> For the candidates for praetor: what is your attitude
> to our judicial system? Should it be changed? Do we
> need it at all? What will be your attitude to acting
> as one of the magistrates in charge of the
> administration of justice?
>
> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?


Caius Curius Saturninus

C•CURIUM•PRAET•O•V•F
http://www.insulaumbra.com/saturninus

Tribunus Plebis
Propraetor Provinciae Thules
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
www.academiathules.org
gsm: +358-50-3315279
fax: +358-9-8754751
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39980 From: Caius Curius Saturninus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2216
Salve et Salvete,

Thank you and others for the kind responses to my candidature and
your support. And as you all know I support Iulius Sabinus as a
Curule Aedile.

Vale et Valete,


On Nov 28, 2005, at 22:29 , Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:35:40 -0000
> From: "Titus Iulius Sabinus" <iulius_sabinus@...>
> Subject: Re: Caius Curius Saturninus for Praetor
>
> SALVETE OMNES !
>
> Caius Curius Saturninus is a man who invested a lot of work in NR.
> All the time I admired his dedication and his abilities. He was, and
> he is a continuous source of inspiration for me, esspecially in the
> web area.
> In this year, I have talked a lot with him about the ludi, about the
> games and about the provincial governments. All the time, he helped
> me with good advices.
> He will have my support for the praetorship.
>
> VALETE,
> IVL SABINVS
>
> PS. Sometime he's doing beautiful roman things. One of these, in
> this year, was his son Marcus.
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caius Curius Saturninus
> <c.curius@a...> wrote:
>>
>> Salvete omnes,
>>
>> I come to you here in a white toga. The reason to this toga
> candida
>> is that I have just informed our Consuls that I'm placing myself
> as a
>> candidate for Praetorship.
>>
>> For me Praetorship means duty to oversee the peace of our
> official
>> lists and speak and act for justice. Peace and justice means to
> me,
>> in the office I humbly seek to be elected into, freedom of
> expression
>> and a right to be treated in a civilized way. Moderation of the
> main
>> list is obviously the most visible part of the Praetorian duties.
> I
>> support neither too strict nor too loose policy regarding the
>> mailinglist behaviour.
>>
>> I have served the res publica in many scriba and assistant
> positions,
>> some of the dearest for me being accensus of Consul and scriba
> for
>> Praetor. I have been appointed to Propraetorship of Thule
> Province
>> and elected to Quaestor and Tribune. In all these offices,
> appointed
>> and elected, I have done my best and believe I have also been
>> succesful, but this is something for you to judge.
>>
>> In short I say you should consider voting me because I'm
> qualified,
>> motified and by my nature suitable for Praetorship which is about
>> moderation also in the literal sense of the word.
>>
>> You can find out more information about me and my opinions on the
>> webpage:
>> http://www.insulaumbra.com/saturninus
>>
>> Valete,

Caius Curius Saturninus

C•CURIUM•PRAET•O•V•F
http://www.insulaumbra.com/saturninus

Tribunus Plebis
Propraetor Provinciae Thules
Procurator Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
www.academiathules.org
gsm: +358-50-3315279
fax: +358-9-8754751
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39981 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Petitio
A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus omnibus S.P.D.

Puto nonnullos uestrum animadvertisse me munus rogatricis petentem‹et
profiteor. Id peto. Ergo, hodie coram populo Romano stola candida induta
sto, hoc munus petens. Munera rogatoris uel rogatricis non iam de
suffragiis numerandis, sed de tironibus accipiendis regendis, de Latinitate
nominum propositorum corrigenda, de probationibus mittendis corrigendis
aliis talibus aguntur. Hic nec imperium nec lictores iacent; gloria abest,
sed munus refertum labore nos manet.

Vt nonnulli uestum scitis, in officina approbationum censoris scriba
sum, et Latinista; uidi laborem, et eum scio. Talem per menses ego quoque
feci, et similia faciam si me rogatricem creetis annon. Aut scriba aut
rogatrix, laborem paene eandem conficiam; mea humillima sententia Rei
Publicae melius seruiam muneribus additiciis rogatricis conficiendis, et uos
rogo ut me suffragiis uestris ornetis.

I think that some of you may have noticed that I am seeking the office
of rogatrix‹and I admit it. I am seeking it. Therefore, I stand before the
Roman people today, clad in gleaming white palla, seeking this office. The
duties of a rogator or rogatrix no longer deal with counting votes, but with
accepting new citizens and guiding them, correcting the Latin of their
proposed names, sending and correcting citizenship tests, and other such
matters. Here neither power nor lictores reside; glory is absent, but an
office replete with work awaits us.

As some of you are aware, I am a scriba in the Censorial [New Citizen]
Approvals Office, and a Latinist; I have seen the work, and know it. I,
too, have been doing such work for months, and will be performing similar
tasks whether or not you elect me rogatrix; either as a scriba or a
rogatrix, I¹ll be doing some of the same things. In my most humble opinion,
I could serve the Res Publica even better by performing the additional
duties of the rogatrix, and ask for your votes.

Valete,

A. Tullia Scholastica




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39982 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
A. Tullia Scholastica Senatrici Pompeia Minuciae-Tiberiae Straboni
quiritibusque omnibus S.P.D.

>
> Pompeia Minucia Tiberia Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.
>
> I wish to add my voice to the growing (and justifiably so!) number
> of citizens who are pleased that Aula Tullia Scholastica is standing
> for Rogatrix.
>
> Seemingly everything she does, Tullia puts forth an exemplary effort
> and does a great job. She would be a very efficient Rogatrix in my
> view.
>
> She's enriched our community with her command of Latin, and other
> aspects of Roman history. And she's worked very hard with
> sodalitates initiatives and with Tabularium corrections to reflect
> proper Latin.
>
> All my best to Aula Tullia Scholastica in this election.
>
> Valete
>
>
> ATS: Thank you very much for your effusive endorsement. I do try to do my
> best at everything, and firmly believe that we should treat prospective
> citizens with kindness and understanding as we guide them through the hoops of
> the citizenship application process and the simple citizenship test which they
> must pass in order to become full citizens among us.
>
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39983 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Rogator candidacy
Valetudo quod fortuna omnes,

As the time to vote draws near...

As the list of prospective candidates is thin...

As I have performed the office once before...

I do tender to the Cives of our fair new City, our beloved New Rome...

My Candidacy for the office of Rogator.

May the Holy guide our thoughts and deeds!
May the Spirits of our family lines nod in approval.
May we be of Worth to our fellow Nova Romans.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

Quaestor Emeritus, Rogator Emeritus, Provincial Legate Emeritus

Religio Septentrionalis - Poet

Veteran

Dominus Sodalitas Coquuorum et Cerevisiae Coctorum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq/

http://anheathenreader.blogspot.com/
http://www.catamount-grange-hearth.org/
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39984 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove Roma!

Diana Octavia



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39985 From: Gnaeus Salvius Astur Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
CN·SALVIVS·ASTVR·QVIRITIBVS·S·P·D

A. Apollonius Cordus scripsit:

> For the candidates for tribune: what do you think is
> the principal function of the tribunes in our
> republic? Do you think it should be changed?

So far, and with particular vehemence this year, it has been
interpreted that the duty of the Tribuni Plebis is to safeguard the
Constitution of Nova Roma -- to be the Nova Roma equivalent to a
Supreme Court.

I do not challenge this interpretation -- very probably, it is exactly
what the law says -- but I am convinced that this was *not* what the
Tribuni Plebis were for in Ancient Rome.

In Nova Roma, we have put ourselves in a difficult situation. Part of
Nova Roma's goal is to reconstruct the political system of Ancient
Rome. Since the very beginning, our laws, regulations and by-laws have
moved towards that direction. However, our system right now is not an
exact copy of the Late Republican system, and there are reasons for
that. Some of the differences between Nova Roma and Roma Antiqua are
caused by the modern environment we all live in, and we will probably
have to deal with them for a long time. But others were simply born
out of a lack of knowledge about the ancient Roman political system.

I think that the time has come for us (*all* of us) to review the role
of the Tribunate in Nova Roma. It does not follow historical practice,
and that might be particularly important in our current environment,
because the Tribuni Plebis played a mayor role in the system of checks
and balances that kept equilibrium in the Roman political system. We
have to reach a better understanding of the role of the Tribuni Plebis
and then we have to discuss what changes are necessary (if any) to
move forward to our objective: a political system that reconstructs
the Roman Republic as closely as possible.

[...]

> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

With all due respect, care Corde, this question of yours doesn't make
too much sense, since you are not defining what you mean by party,
alliance or faction. :-)

In any case, if what you mean is if I have ever discussed about
politics with other citizens outside of this mailing list, the answer
is yes -- one of them being A. Apollonius Cordus himself. If you are
asking if I have ever found other citizens to agree with me in some
basic political principles, the answer is yes. If you are asking me if
me and those citizens have made that concordance known to the general
public, the answer is, once again, yes. I don't know if one should
call that a party, an alliance or a faction or a group of people who
incidentally agree on a couple of things (and disagree on many other
things). :-)

S·V·B·E·E·V

CN·SALVIVS·T·F·A·NEP·OVF·ASTVR·SCRIPSIT
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39986 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
M. Lucretius Agricola Dianae Octaviae Aventinae Omnibusque S.P.D.



When you say "McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove Roma!" indeed you
say it in jest, I think.

The point of Senator Joseph McCarthy's questioning of citizens (for
those who may not know) was to point an accusing finger at innocent
people, to discredit ordinary citizens and politicians alike with his
accusing question "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the
Communist Party?".

My friend A. Apollonius Cordus does not accuse, he does not indict the
innocent, he simply asks for full disclosure of a piece of
information. I detect no innuendo on his part, no accusation that
affiliation in any group makes a candidate suspect in any way.

There are no outlawed groups, as far as I know, no assemblies deemed
subversive. Citizens are entitled to form alliances of any sort, to
pursue goals for the Res Public as they see fit. Citizens are also
entitled to have all the fact before them when they vote and they are
entitled to ask simple questions of a political nature of the
candidate who have stepped forth here. This is all my friend has done.
So I say again, you must have spoken in jest.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Diana Octavia Aventina
<dianaaventina@y...> wrote:
>
>
> > And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> > question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> > of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> > group with political goals within our replublic?
>
> McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove Roma!
>
> Diana Octavia
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page!
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39987 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Candidacy for MAGISTER ARANEARIUS (Webmaster)
C. Equitius Cato quirities S.P.D.

Salvete omnes.

One thing that Claudius Germanicus forgets to mention is that he has
been one of the driving forces behind the creation of the new
sestertius. I give him my hearty support.

Valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "albmd323232" <albmd32@h...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>
> I come before you now to declare my candidacy for magister aranearius
> (webmaster). I have been asked to fill this important role, as I am
> currently the webmaster for the Musarum.
> http://www.freewebtown.com/musarum/
>
> A little about me: I have been deeply immersed in the study of roman
> culture for around 5 years now, having visited Rome twice, in
addition > to other roman cities across europe. I am fascinated with
Roman > architecture, and I am the musaeus of Apollo in the Musarum.
I collect > Roman coins, read quite a bit, and enjoy photography. Ive
also dabbled > in creative writing, and one of my stories, albiet in
German, is on the > musarum site. I taught myself how to create and
maintain webpages, both > through pure html code and also with
software, around 8 years ago. I will be on vacation until the middle
of January, at which time I can > commence my service, if elected. I
am also very approachable, and > online quite a bit. Lastly, I have
stayed away from the various > fractions and heated debates in NR,
remaining 'independent.'
>
> Valete,
> D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39988 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
C. Equitius Cato et T. Iulius Sabinus A. Apollonio Cordo quiritibusque
S.P.D.

Salve et salvete!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:

> For the candidates for aedile (both curule and
> plebeian): what do you think our ludi should have more
> of (if anything)?

CATO ET SABINUS: There should be more virtual interaction between the
citizens and the activities during the games; by this we mean that the
citizens should be able to see (and perhaps even hear) some of the
events that virtually occur --- chariot races, venationes, and
gladiatorial combat. We have been talking about particulars in this
area, and we have a program of ideas in store if we are elected ---
but we don't want to say too much in hopes that when the Games
actually occur, the citizens will watch them with their jaws on the
floor. No kidding.

Vale et valete,

Cato & Sabinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39989 From: C·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
--- "A. Apollonius Cordus" wrote:
> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

As said in my declaration of candidacy, I am a member of the
Libra Alliance.

Valete
C·ARMINIVS·RECCANELLVS
PROPRAETOR·PROVINCIAE·BRASILIAE
"Quousque tandem, Lula, abutere patientia nostra?"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39990 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: a.d. III Kal. Dec.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem III Kalendas Decembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"The following year [321 B.C.] was rendered memorable by the disaster
which befell the Romans at Caudium and the capitulation which they
made there. T. Veturius Calvinus and Spurius Postumius were the
consuls. The Samnites had for their captain-general that year C.
Pontius, the son of Herennius, the ablest statesman they possessed,
whilst the son was their foremost soldier and commander. When the
envoys who had been sent with the terms of surrender returned from
their fruitless mission, Pontius made the following speech in the
Samnite council: 'Do not suppose that this mission has been barren of
results. We have gained this much by it, whatever measure of divine
wrath we may have incurred by our violation of treaty obligations has
now been atoned for. I am perfectly certain that all those deities
whose will it was that we should be reduced to the necessity of making
the restitution which was demanded under the terms of the treaty, have
viewed with displeasure the haughty contempt with which the Romans
have treated our concessions. What more could we have done to placate
the wrath of heaven or soften the resentment of men than we have done?
The property of the enemy, which we considered ours by the rights of
war, we have restored; the author of the war, whom we could not
surrender alive, we gave up after he had paid his debt to nature, and
lest any taint of guilt should remain with us we carried his
possessions to Rome. What more, Romans, do I owe to you or to the
treaty or to the gods who were invoked as witnesses to the treaty?
What arbitrator am I to bring forward to decide how far your wrath,
how far my punishment is to go? I am willing to accept any, whether it
be a nation or a private individual. But if human law leaves no rights
which the weak share with the stronger, I can still fly to the gods,
the avengers of intolerable tyranny, and I will pray them to turn
their wrath against those for whom it is not enough to have their own
restored to them and to be loaded also with what belongs to others,
whose cruel rage is not satiated by the death of the guilty and the
surrender of their lifeless remains together with their property, who
cannot be appeased unless we give them our very blood to suck and our
bowels to tear. A war is just and right, Samnites, when it is forced
upon us; arms are blessed by heaven when there is no hope except in
arms. Since then it is of supreme importance in human affairs what
things men do under divine favour and what they do against the divine
will, be well assured that, if in your former wars you were fighting
against the gods even more than against men, in this war which is
impending you will have the gods themselves to lead you.'" - Livy,
History of Rome 9.1


"According to an ancient legend, the first man was made by Iuppiter,
the first bull by Neptune, and the first house by Minerva. On the
completion of their labors, a dispute arose as to which had made the
most perfect work. They agreed to appoint Momus as judge, and to abide
by his decision. Momus, however, being very envious of the handicraft
of each, found fault with all. He first blamed the work of Neptune
because he had not made the horns of the bull below his eyes, so he
might better see where to strike. He then condemned the work of
Iuppiter, because he had not placed the heart of man on the outside,
that everyone might read the thoughts of the evil disposed and take
precautions against the intended mischief. And, lastly, he inveighed
against Minerva because she had not contrived iron wheels in the
foundation of her house, so its inhabitants might more easily remove
if a neighbor proved unpleasant. Iuppiter, indignant at such
inveterate faultfinding, drove him from his office of judge, and
expelled him from the mansions of Olympus." - Aesop's Fables

Today is celebrated in honor of the goddess Minerva. Minerva is the
goddess of wisdom, was the daughter of Iuppiter. She was said to have
leaped forth from his brain, mature, and in complete armour. She
presided over the useful and ornamental arts, both those of men - such
as agriculture and navigation - and those of women - spinning,
weaving, and needlework. She was also a warlike divinity; but it was
defensive war only that she patronized, and she had no sympathy with
Mars's savage love of violence and bloodshed. Athens was her chosen
seat, her own city, awarded to her as the prize of a contest with
Neptune, who also aspired to it, The tale ran that in the reign of
Cecrops, the first king of Athens, the two deities contended for the
possession of the city. The gods decreed that it should be awarded to
that one who produced the gift most useful to mortals. Neptune gave
the horse; Minerva produced the olive. The gods gave judgment that the
olive was the more useful of the two, and awarded the city to the
goddess; and it was named after her, Athens, her name in Greek being
Athene. Minerva was involved in several famous contests, including
that with Arachne and that with Niobe.

In the temple on the Capitoline Hill she was worshipped together with
Iuppiter and Iuno, with whom she formed a powerful triad of gods.
Another temple of her was located on the Aventine Hill. The church of
Santa Maria sopra Minerva is built on one of her temples.

Valete bene!

Cato


SOURCES

Livy, Minerva (http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/athenaminervamyth/)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39991 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
SALVETE QUIRITES !

I want to add my support for our magistra candidacy. She is a great
volunteer of NR. And I don't said that only from her latin abilities.
Tullia Scholastica is a renactor,too, and she is involved in a lot of
NR activities. You all knows that better.
It is not necessary to say more ! In NR are some citizens for who the
facts are speaking. Tullia Scholastica is one of them.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39992 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
C. Equitius Cato L. Servilio quiritibusque S.P.D.

Salve et salvete.

Lucius Servilius, you wrote:

"What actions would you take regarding the recent N.R. flag issue.
Where citizens are ordering the flags, sending checks or money orders
and never recieving either the flag their money back or even an e-mail
regarding the order."

We would treat this the same way that we would treat any dispute over
goods and services:

I. We would begin by assuming there has simply been a mistake. We
would ask for:

A. Copy of email/letter requesting goods
B. Proof of purchase (cancelled cheque or credit card statement
showing charge)
C. Copies of all correspondence between vendor and purchaser
D. Explanation from vendor regarding status of goods purchased

II. We would decide between ourselves who will adjudicate

III. We would set up a time/virtual place to bring the two parties
together to hear them both speak

IV. We would then make a judgement, as provided by the laws and
Constitution of the Republic.

Some of our goals regarding the Macellum to overhaul the system are to
streamline and simplify the web page; sort through current vendors to
ensure accurate representation; increase the number of vendors to
afford citizens more choices.

Vale et valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39993 From: Gaius Marius Aquilis Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Declaration of Candidacy for ROGATOR - (Gaius Marius Aquilius - Ca
DECLARATION OF CANDIDACY FOR ROGATOR
GAIVS MARIVS AQVILIVS ·OMNIBVS·CIVIBUS·S·P·D

Salvete,

IÂ’m Gaius Marius Aquilius, 2nd Rank Official in the Provincia Brasilia.
I have the honor of serving Nova Roma in our province under the command
of our Propreator, in charge of two functions: as a Legatus Internis
Rebus and also as an Aedilis Militarium.

Today, I approach you all now, in white stola, to announce my candidacy
for the office of Rogator. Also, I would like to share my ideal so you
can know if I am capable for that function.

I believe honor, disciplines and dignity.

I believe in a unit where all the people are equals when we are in the
path of the good. I believe, though, that virtues had forged the ancient
Roman civilization still can be the base for a world whit more justice
and less violence. The Rogator is a very important function to keep
these ideals, and by that is a great responsibility.

If some of these ideals also are your believes, then we have something
in common, and therefore I ask for your support and let us can work to
make the things happen.

Â…

Sou Gaius Marius Aquilius, oficial de segundo nível na Província
Brasília. Venho tendo a honra de estar servindo Nova Roma em nossa
província, sob o comando de nosso Propreator, assumindo duas funções:
como Legatus Internis Rebus e também como Aedilis Militarium.

Hoje, venho a todos, vestido com a toga branca, para anunciar minha
candidatura a Rogator.

Gostaria também de expor meus ideais para que você possa saber se sou
digno da função que almejo e também de seu voto.

Acredito em honra, disciplina e dignidade. Acredito em uma unidade onde
todos somos iguais quando estamos no caminho do bem. Acredito também que
as virtudes que forjaram a civilização romana na antiguidade podem ser a
base para construção de mundo mais justo e menos violento. Neste papel o
Rogator possui uma função muito importante, e por isso uma grande
responsabilidade.

Se alguns desses ideais também fazem parte daquilo que você acredita,
então temos algo em comum, e por isso peço seu voto para que possamos
trabalhar para fazer as coisas acontecerem.



Valete Bene,



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39994 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Salvete Agricole et Octavia,

I don't want to start yet another US political bru-ha-ha here but I must set something straight if at least for historical reasons. "McCarthyism" is a term that should disappear from our lexicon. It was fraudulently manufactured by the left leaning American Press and is usually associated with the Hollywood "Black Lists". The House subcommittee on "Un-American Activities - HUAC (1945-1953) were held by the House NOT the Senate and was responsible for this unwarranted aberration to free speech. Most Americans confuse this subcommittee with SENATOR Joseph McCarthy's SENATE subcommittee investigating only U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS who had secret ties to the Soviets.

I think you both ought to discover the Venona Project. It has been accessible since the mid 1990's - at former NY Senator Moynihan's request. This secret decoding project of all the communications between the USSR and it's agents in the USA was unknown even to the U.S. Presidents at that time (because they suspected high level Soviet moles in the White House staff).

EVERY PERSON Senator McCarthy "pointed" his finger at has been confirmed by the Venona Project to have actually been, not just a secret Communist Party member, but a PAID Soviet spy! He used his common sense at that time to ferret these individuals out (because of their actions) and turned out to be absolutely correct! The fact that he was vilified by the Press is nothing new. President Lincoln's Gettysburg Address was vilified by all the newspapers of his time as being the worst speech ever made by a US president! When the media has an agenda, they usually win. It is history which usually sets things right.

The American Press, specifically its paper of record - The New York Times - has yet to apologize for Walter Durante's "Pulitzer Prize Winning" reports from the Soviet Union in 1932 which explicitly called the genocide through forced starvation of 20 million Ukrainians by Stalin a "propaganda lie". It has also yet to acknowledge that the most investigated person by McCarthy's subcommittee - Alger Hiss - (and their most celebrated hero) has been confirmed by the Venona Project to have been a paid Soviet spy. They still glorified him in their pages even after the Venona Project became public! Why? Because most people still do not know about the Venona Project. Why? Because the media and the New York Times won't mention it!

No matter where a person may stand in their political views, please, lets get the facts right and set the history straight.

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus


----- Original Message -----
From: M. Lucretius Agricola
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:51 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Questions for candidates


M. Lucretius Agricola Dianae Octaviae Aventinae Omnibusque S.P.D.



When you say "McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove Roma!" indeed you
say it in jest, I think.

The point of Senator Joseph McCarthy's questioning of citizens (for
those who may not know) was to point an accusing finger at innocent
people, to discredit ordinary citizens and politicians alike with his
accusing question "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the
Communist Party?".

My friend A. Apollonius Cordus does not accuse, he does not indict the
innocent, he simply asks for full disclosure of a piece of
information. I detect no innuendo on his part, no accusation that
affiliation in any group makes a candidate suspect in any way.

There are no outlawed groups, as far as I know, no assemblies deemed
subversive. Citizens are entitled to form alliances of any sort, to
pursue goals for the Res Public as they see fit. Citizens are also
entitled to have all the fact before them when they vote and they are
entitled to ask simple questions of a political nature of the
candidate who have stepped forth here. This is all my friend has done.
So I say again, you must have spoken in jest.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Diana Octavia Aventina
<dianaaventina@y...> wrote:
>
>
> > And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> > question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> > of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> > group with political goals within our replublic?
>
> McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove Roma!
>
> Diana Octavia
>
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39995 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Salve Agricola,

> When you say "McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove
> Roma!" indeed you
> say it in jest, I think.

I'm happy to see that you appreciate my sense of
humour.
Vale,
Diana




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39996 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR
Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete,

I would like to offer my full and wholehearted endorsement of S. Ullerius
Venator Piperbarbus
for the office of Rogator.

He has all the Roman qualities our Res Publica needs and will be a fine
public servant.

Valete optime,.

M•IVL•SEVERVS
SCRIBA•CENSORIS•GEM
MVSÆVS•COLLEGII•ERATOVS•SODALITATIS•MVSARVM
SOCIVS•CHORI•MVSARVM

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39997 From: Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
C. Minucius Hadrianus Felix A. Apollonio Cordo S.P.D.

Salve amice.

Since you didn't ask any questions relating to the Censorship, I'll jump
right to your general question:

A. Apollonius Cordus wrote:

> And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

I am a former member of the "faction" known as the Boni. I am no longer
a member of that group, nor any other political group or faction within
Nova Roma. My personal feeling (based on my own experiences) is that
such associations have the unfortunate tendency to promote the worst
sort of personal politics which in my view have become the bane of our
organization.

Vale bene,

--
Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
Pontifex et Minervae Aedis Sacerdos Legate Massachusetts Regio
c.minucius.hadrianus@...

"We are all, so far as we inherit the civilization of Europe,
still citizens of the Roman Empire, and time as not yet proved
Virgil wrong when he wrote /nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

-T.S. Eliot

"/His ego nec metas rerum nec tempora pono: imperium sine fine dedi./"

"For the achievement of these people I fix neither spatial boundaries or
temporal limits: I have given them empire without end."

-Virgil, /Aeneid/ I.278,279
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39998 From: robertpartlow Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Response to Marcus Cassius Philippius' "I don't want to start..."
Salvete,
I have often ignored such outbursts (whether intended to be
supportive of right-wing radical-subversives or not)in order to keep
discourse at a civil and intelligent level. Now I feel that time is
no longer constructive, given the extent of crazed neo-con and
religeous-fanatical control that threatens to over-take this world.
No group is immune from such destructive, thoughtless, reactionism.
My reason for reacting is the fact that McCarthy was a drunk who
destroyed the careers of many good thoughtful people and helped cause
the dumbing-down of our society which was to be a new (Roman Republic
of sorts) society based pluralism and respect for all (non-
destructive) attitudes. His rhetoric went against this. Remember the
movie "Spartacus"? It was produced by Kirk Douglas who chose Stanley
Kubrick(blacklisted by McCarthy) to direct it, as the movie presented
a mirrored period in Rome when M.Licinius Crassus(money-grubbing
emotionally-damaged street-urchin)used fear of societal-collapse to
take control of the government and turned society toward a cesspool
of stupidity and paranoia. As history actually showed, he met his end
along with thousands of good troops and a great deal of denarii to
attempt a takeover of the empire of a cooperative eastern neighbor
(left-well-enough-alone). Keep in mind it is not the person toward
which I am responding, but the statement which must no longer go
unchallenged. Such statements which go on with out the proper
discourse have (as presently illustrated by U.S. society) led to a
destructive quagmire of global proportion.
Valvete,
Appius Claudius Scipio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 39999 From: os390account Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Salvete Quirites,

Donning the toga candida, I, Quintus Valerius Callidus of the tribe
Galeria, would humbly like to submit my name for consideration as
Magister Aranearius for Nova Roma.

I have been a citizen for two years, and in that time I have been
fortunate to meet wonderful people who share a love of learning,
history, and friendship. I have been honored with the position of
Cultural Scriba, Proconsular Scriba, and now Webmaster for the
province of Nova Britannia.

Currently I am webmaster for the Nova Britannia, and with the
wonderful assistance and guidance provided by Proconsul Marcus
Minucius-Tiberius Audens, Legate Equestria Iunia Laeca, and the
other citizens of the province, I have maintained and begun to
enhance the Nova Britannia website to the best of my meager
abilities using standard best practices, such as great use of CSS.

Professionally, I am a web designer/programmer, and with 15 years in
software development (over 10 in Perl, and 15 in c), as well as team
participation and management. I have extensive experience with
maintaining a healthy state of websites, including Unix/Linux/BSD
operating systems, reactive webpages via Javascript, mysql and
PostGreSQL database design and integration, and business logic
services using perl and java. I hope my skills would become an
asset to the Republic as a whole.

My professional credentials include work in financials, eCommerce
and eLearning, and development of software for those fields, in
Perl, as well as Java, Python, Jython, C, C++, Ruby, Scheme, Tcl/Tk,
Yacc/Bison, Lex/Flex, mySQL and Postscript, including GUI and
database development (SQL under Oracle, PostGreSQL, and mySQL),
Ticket Tracking Systems, SOAP/XML, shopping cart design and
implementation under apache (1.3 and 2.0 with SSL, perl templating
by hand and with Interchange, and XHTML/CSS), statistical treatment,
and system adaptation to user trends, preferences and criteria along
with reporting facilities.

I hope my abilities are worth their salt, and if the people deem I
have the right stuff, then I will do my best to help keep the wheels
of the Republic running smoothly for the citizenry of Nova Roma.

Gratias vobis ago.
Vale et Valete!

Quintus Valerius Callidus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40000 From: David Kling Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus S.P.D.

A. Apollonius Cordus presented the following questions:

[First, a question for the candidates for consul: you've both explained what
you would like to promote and encourage within Nova Roma, but could you
explain why you feel you need to be consul in order to do this and what you
hope to do which you will not be able to do if you are not elected?]

My vision of the Consulship is one of leadership, and action. The Consuls
should be those individuals that guide Nova Roma towards meeting the goals
of our organization. They should be the ones who propel Nova Roma forward.
Surely, it is possible to provide a positive voice for growth, and to
provide leadership without being Consul. However, it is very the important
role of Consul to lead, to provide the necessary leadership to motivate the
citizenry to new levels of participation, and citizenship. Nova Roma is an
organization with an unlimited potential. I believe it takes dynamic
leadership to tap into this potential. What makes Nova Roma great is the
people involved within it, and I believe a good Consul should help to bring
the people together.

I will support my election platform whether or not I am elected. I can have
some influence over these goals, even if un-elected. However, if elected
Consul it becomes easier to ensure the priorities of Nova Roma are
implemented, because the responsibility and duty to do so will rest upon my
shoulders [as well as the shoulders of the other Consul elected]. If elected
Consul my success or failure will depend upon how successfully I developed
the goals and priorities of Nova Roma.

[And finally, for all candidates, my favourite question: are you now or have
you ever been a member of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
group with political goals within our replublic?]

I am a former member of the "Boni." I am in full agreement with what Gaius
Minucius Hadrianus Felix recently stated, " My personal feeling (based on my
own experiences) is that such associations have the unfortunate tendency to
promote the worst sort of personal politics which in my view have become the
bane of our organization." I currently belong to no political faction.

Valete:

Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40001 From: Sensei Phil Perez Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Response to Marcus Cassius Philippius' "I don't want to start..
Salve Scipie,

I just stated that "Senator" McCarthy had nothing to do with HUAC. This just goes to show the ignorance that abounds about this subject. All that you have stated that has come about in the USA such as everything PC came since primarily because of the fact that his adversaries won in the court of public opinion. The author of the United Nations Constitution was one of these men, this would never have happened if McCarthy had won the day. That is why the term "McCarthyism" is so prevalent and used mostly in situations like the one I addressed because of this ignorance of the facts. Just because a majority of people think something is true does not necessarily make it so.

These uses are confusing the work of McCarthy's Senate subcommittee with the House's HUAC which did do the things that have been hung on McCarthy's name. BTW - his drinking problems started because of his political demise. You, my friend, have everything ass-backward. I won't get deeply into the Hollywood analogy since I do not know what an "Executive Producers" duties were under the old Hollywood Studio scene of the 1950's. I am pretty sure that nothing took place in those studios without the approval of the "moguls" in charge and I highly doubt Douglas was one of these men. Considering that this film is now a Homosexual Cult Classic, what will you state next, that this was also planned by Douglas? You are reading way too much into the script and the production and frankly going way out on a flimsy ideological limb.

All I stated was that the use of the term McCarthyism should stop. Especially since it is misused, not to mention unwarranted by the facts themselves.

Vires et honos,
Marcus Cassius Philippus
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Salvete,
I have often ignored such outbursts (whether intended to be
supportive of right-wing radical-subversives or not)in order to keep
discourse at a civil and intelligent level. Now I feel that time is
no longer constructive, given the extent of crazed neo-con and
religeous-fanatical control that threatens to over-take this world.
No group is immune from such destructive, thoughtless, reactionism.
My reason for reacting is the fact that McCarthy was a drunk who
destroyed the careers of many good thoughtful people and helped cause
the dumbing-down of our society which was to be a new (Roman Republic
of sorts) society based pluralism and respect for all (non-
destructive) attitudes. His rhetoric went against this. Remember the
movie "Spartacus"? It was produced by Kirk Douglas who chose Stanley
Kubrick(blacklisted by McCarthy) to direct it, as the movie presented
a mirrored period in Rome when M.Licinius Crassus(money-grubbing
emotionally-damaged street-urchin)used fear of societal-collapse to
take control of the government and turned society toward a cesspool
of stupidity and paranoia. As history actually showed, he met his end
along with thousands of good troops and a great deal of denarii to
attempt a takeover of the empire of a cooperative eastern neighbor
(left-well-enough-alone). Keep in mind it is not the person toward
which I am responding, but the statement which must no longer go
unchallenged. Such statements which go on with out the proper
discourse have (as presently illustrated by U.S. society) led to a
destructive quagmire of global proportion.
Valvete,
Appius Claudius Scipio





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40002 From: Benjamin A. Okopnik Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Salvete, quirites -

On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:35:29PM -0000, os390account wrote:
> Salvete Quirites,
>
> Donning the toga candida, I, Quintus Valerius Callidus of the tribe
> Galeria, would humbly like to submit my name for consideration as
> Magister Aranearius for Nova Roma.

I am not usually in the habit of endorsing candidates (this year, it was
rather hard to resist - we have such a fine slate to choose from!)
However, I will speak up in this case, from the perspective of technical
merit: yesterday, I spent a very pleasurable half-hour or so chatting
with Q. Valerius Callidus about his qualifications for the position of
Magister Aranearius, and I believe him to be an excellent fit for the
position.

I was also very impressed with his energy and his desire to serve Nova
Roma. In my estimation, this is the man who combines the best qualities
necessary to serve Nova Roma's needs in this position at this time.

This is not in any way intended to disregard or minimize the
contributions of those others who have also offered themselves as
candidates for this position; in fact, my best hope is to leave this
office staffed with a competent senior _and_ junior webmaster, the
latter being trained by the former. However, since currently there's no
such official position as "Apprenditicius Aranearius" [1], I can only
recommend one man - who, I hope, will choose the second most-qualified
volunteer as his Scriba.

Please vote for Q. Valerius Callidus.


[1] The Latin Sodalitas will surely post a large reward for my head
after seeing my "version" of Latin construction and grammar...


Valete,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40003 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR
Valetudo quod fortuna,

On 11/29/05, M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...> wrote:
> Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
>[excision]
>
> Valete optime,.
>
> M•IVL•SEVERVS
> SCRIBA•CENSORIS•GEM
> MVSÆVS•COLLEGII•ERATOVS•SODALITATIS•MVSARVM
> SOCIVS•CHORI•MVSARVM
>

I thank you most kindly.

I hope your support will continue, as I have amended my candidacy
statement to run for Diribitor, which friends have reminded me is now
what my old office is called.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

Rogue Diribitor - emeritus ,-)

Religio Septentrionalis - Poet

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40004 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Clarity - Diribitor, was Re: Rogator candidacy
Valetudo quod fortuna omnes,

I have been reminded by friends that the duties of the Rogators have
changed since I held the office. Sometimes my mind locks onto an idea
and it takes help, which IS appreciated, to steer me in the right
direction. I have reviewed those new duties, and the duties of my old
office, now styled as Diribitor.

My candidacy stands amended.

I wish to once again perform the duties of Diribitor.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

Rogue Diribitor - emeritus ,-)

Religio Septentrionalis - Poet

Dominus Sodalitas Coquuorum et Cerevisiae Coctorum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq/

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40005 From: os390account Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Salve et Salvete!

> [And finally, for all candidates, my favourite question: are you now
or have you ever been a member of any political party, alliance,
faction, or other group with political goals within our replublic?]

Faction? Political Party? Alliance? No. These are divisional
terms. I function as a humble citizen without political alliance in
a utopian view of a unified Nova Roma with neither borders, bounds,
lines, nor limits.

My goals are the same as the goals of the Republic, and my desire is
simply to serve as a soldier serves the legion. My weapons are my
computer, keyboard, and mouse; my field of battle, the intricacies of
a network; my tactics, programming languages; my compatriots, the
people; and my strategy, the preservation and betterment of Nova Roma
for all Nova Romans, past, present, and future.

Vale et Valete!
Q. Valerius Callidus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40006 From: albmd323232 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
Salvete,

if Quintus Valerius Callidus believes that he could do the job well,
and is enthusiastic about it as he sounds, I would accept being
the "junior webmaster" or Scriba, if it would please everyone.

Valete,
D. Claudius Aquilius Germanicus


>my best hope is to leave this
> office staffed with a competent senior _and_ junior webmaster, the
> latter being trained by the former. However, since currently there's
no
> such official position as "Apprenditicius Aranearius" [1], I can only
> recommend one man - who, I hope, will choose the second most-qualified
> volunteer as his Scriba.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40007 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
A. Apollonius Q. Svetonio omnibusque sal.

Ah, yes, I remember that scene too. A very fine actor,
John Hurt - I was lucky enough to see him on the stage
earlier this month, along with Richard Griffiths and
Ken Stott.

And Macro is an interesting character, too. He's
played very well in this production of "Sejanus" by
Peter de Jersey, and Jonson writes him a very sinister
speech - the last thing we see before the interval -
in which he says he would do anything Tiberius ordered
him to do, even kill his own twin, divorce his wife,
disinherit his children, or commit sacrilege. A
chilling scene, because it means that at the end of
the play we find it hard to feel glad that Sejanus is
dead because we know that he's being replaced by
something even worse.

It's a much overlooked play, and really deserves to be
performed more often than it is.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40008 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
A. Apollonius T. Octavio, Q. Svetonio, C. Equitio, T.
Julio, C. Vipsanio, Ti. Galerio, C. Curio, C. Arminio,
C. Minucio, C. Buteoni, Q. Valerio, omnibusque sal.

Thank you all for your answers! You've been very
helpful.

One of the good things about asking questions is that,
regardless of what the answers are, you can notice who
answers them and who doesn't. ;)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40009 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
A. Apollonius Cn. Salvio omnibusque sal.

And thank you for your answers, too. You also said:

> With all due respect, care Corde, this question of
> yours doesn't make
> too much sense, since you are not defining what you
> mean by party,
> alliance or faction. :-)

Indeed! I allowed you to make your own interpretation,
and you did. I'm quite happy with that. :)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40010 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT OF CANDIDACY
Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete,

I come to you here dressing the toga candida, after informing our Consuls that I'm presenting myself as a candidate for the position of Rogator.
I am 56 years old and a tax-paying citizen. I am also in my first year as a Nova Roman citizen.
This is my first official foray into Nova Roman politics. I have been working hard to organize the Provincia Mexico, that was paralyzed until I started this effort, with the enthusiastic help of some other cives. I am a Scriba in the Conhors Censoris of Censor Gnaeus Equitius Marinus and Spanish interpreter, and the Musaeus of the Collegium Eratous, in the Sodalitas Musarum, as well as Socius of the Chorus Musarum.
I also believe, as my dear colleague Aula Tullia Scholastica stated, that we should treat prospective citizens with kindness and understanding as we guide them through the hoops of the citizenship application process and the simple citizenship test which they must pass in order to become full citizens.
As a Scriba in the Cohors Censoris, I know the duties of the Rogator and I am prepared to perform them with utmost dedication and efficiency.
I hope you will support me with your votes.

Valete optime,

M•IVL•SEVERVS
SCRIBA•CENSORIS•GEM
MVSÆVS•COLLEGII•ERATOVS•SODALITATIS•MVSARVM
SOCIVS•CHORI•MVSARVM
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40011 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
A. Apollonius Dianae Octaviae omnibusque sal.

> > And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> > question: are you now or have you ever been a
> member
> > of any political party, alliance, faction, or
> other
> > group with political goals within our replublic?
>
> McCarthyism is alive and well in Nove Roma!

Ah, well spooted! That allusion was just a way of
showing that I realize I must seem rather censorious
to many people the way I go on about parties and such
like. But rest assured, I'm not going to do anything
nasty to people who say "yes". :)

(Except maybe not vote for them. Maybe.)





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40012 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
A. Apollonius C. Equitio omnibusque sal.

May I have a follow-up question following on from L.
Servilius'? I'm wondering whether you would change any
of the current edicta on commercial disputes? The
current ones date from the aedilitas of C. Julius and
M. Julius, and were reissued unchanged by the current
aediles curules.

Also, do you think the aediles plebis should be
involved in the process of aribtrating in commercial
disputes? Up to now the aediles curules have tended to
do it on their own, I think.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40013 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: McCarthy Discussion
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes.

The discussion regarding the activities of the late U.S. Sen. Joseph
McCarthy have reached a point where I am suggesting that they might
best be undertaken privately. I am among the first to defend the
freedom of speech of all citizens; this topic, however, seems destined
only to degenerate further into an ideological flame war. I urge the
participants to consider this before continuing in this vein.

Valete bene,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40014 From: Gaius Marius Aquilius Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: RES: [Nova-Roma] Questions for candidates
> are you now or have you ever been a member
> of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> group with political goals within our replublic?

Salvete,

Will be my first time, and my first step in my Curcus Honorum, in
despite of had the honor of serving Nova Roma in my Provincia as 2nd
Rank Official.

No, IÂ’m still not a member of any political party, and I think that is a
good point for a ROGATOR, function that I want to exert, because I will
be in charge of new elections.


Valete,

Gaius Marius Aquilius

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Aedilis.Militarium
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40015 From: ladycarissastormbringer Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: A Discontent American - RANT!
Salve, Omnes!

Si valetis valeo!

I hope you all will forgive this newbie for getting up on a soap box
straight away, but I have something to say.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am not an eloquent speaker, but with all
that is in me I want to thank Nova Roma for being here. As an
American, I have often felt like an orphan, like I have no tribe, no
family, no culture to which I belong. The very best anyone can say
about American culture is that we are industrious. That, in my
opinion, is greatly outweighed by our greed, injustice, bigotry and
stupidity. This is not the culture I want for me, or for my
descendants. I believe in honor, responsibility, and being there for
eachother. I'm sick and tired of corrupt leaders, gay-bashing and
the removal of science and intellectualism from our schools. This
isn't the kind of society I want to be a part of.

My 14 year old son is doing portfolios instead of receiving actual
teaching from an educated professional. He is neither challenged nor
engaged by our society. When our children don't find learning useful
and interesting, we have a serious problem. This isn't right. This
isn't how we prepare the next generation to take care of our world.

I have begun reading my son the myths and I interject comments about
the Gods into our conversation whenever I can. When he has trouble
with something in his life my first reaction is to ask, "Which God
do you think can help you with that problem?" Science is his worst
subject, so I'm planning on taking him to the Planetarium. I want
him to know about how the ancients pondered the Heavens, and how
mankind has slowly grown over the centuries. I want him to know that
being smart isn't a crime, and that intellectualism makes the world
your oyster.

I dream of a world where all people are valued, where science and
religion reside peacefully together, where the Arts flourish, and
where the Gods are adored. I dream of a place...a lot like Rome.
That's why I'm here, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am here not just for
myself, but for my son and those who will follow after. I've
travelled with Odysseus on the stormy seas, pondered the moon with
Galileo, and found comfort from ancient Gods even in this modern age
of superhighways and high-volume Internet data transfer. I want
these same things to remain for my descendant, because I know
they're going to need them.

With all that is going wrong with the world, someone has to stand up
and show that there is a better way. When all voices are heard and
reason and love rule, society always flourishes. With all that is
going wrong with this world, we need the best of what Rome once was.
We need Nova Roma.

I am very happy to be back among you, and now I ask for your help.
I'm afraid my son is losing all interest in learning. The school
system has failed him, so it is up to me as his mother to turn this
around. All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Vale!

Gaia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40016 From: Gaia Apollonia Silana Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Salve Gaia!

I hear and understand your anguish. All I have to offer you is my own
experience. I have four children all of whom were languishing in the
schools. So I took them out and home schooled them, for as long as it
took for them to take their educations into their OWN hands. For
instance, my eldest son has a passion for Medieval European history.
What he was learning in school was, to put it kindly, a joke. So, I had
him join the SCA, apprentice himself to one of the members and he
learned through experience and through being shown the books and
resources that were available to him. There are many different ways that
we, as parents, can help our children become educated. They already have
the boundless curiosity and desire to learn.

I wish you and your children well. Throw everything you can at them.
They WILL catch it and you will have a wonderful time with them.

Oh, and I, too, am a newbie. Welcome to Nova Roma!

Vale,
Gaia Apollonia Silana

ladycarissastormbringer wrote:

> Salve, Omnes!
>
> Si valetis valeo!
>
> I hope you all will forgive this newbie for getting up on a soap box
> straight away, but I have something to say.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I am not an eloquent speaker, but with all
> that is in me I want to thank Nova Roma for being here. As an
> American, I have often felt like an orphan, like I have no tribe, no
> family, no culture to which I belong. The very best anyone can say
> about American culture is that we are industrious. That, in my
> opinion, is greatly outweighed by our greed, injustice, bigotry and
> stupidity. This is not the culture I want for me, or for my
> descendants. I believe in honor, responsibility, and being there for
> eachother. I'm sick and tired of corrupt leaders, gay-bashing and
> the removal of science and intellectualism from our schools. This
> isn't the kind of society I want to be a part of.
>
> My 14 year old son is doing portfolios instead of receiving actual
> teaching from an educated professional. He is neither challenged nor
> engaged by our society. When our children don't find learning useful
> and interesting, we have a serious problem. This isn't right. This
> isn't how we prepare the next generation to take care of our world.
>
> I have begun reading my son the myths and I interject comments about
> the Gods into our conversation whenever I can. When he has trouble
> with something in his life my first reaction is to ask, "Which God
> do you think can help you with that problem?" Science is his worst
> subject, so I'm planning on taking him to the Planetarium. I want
> him to know about how the ancients pondered the Heavens, and how
> mankind has slowly grown over the centuries. I want him to know that
> being smart isn't a crime, and that intellectualism makes the world
> your oyster.
>
> I dream of a world where all people are valued, where science and
> religion reside peacefully together, where the Arts flourish, and
> where the Gods are adored. I dream of a place...a lot like Rome.
> That's why I'm here, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am here not just for
> myself, but for my son and those who will follow after. I've
> travelled with Odysseus on the stormy seas, pondered the moon with
> Galileo, and found comfort from ancient Gods even in this modern age
> of superhighways and high-volume Internet data transfer. I want
> these same things to remain for my descendant, because I know
> they're going to need them.
>
> With all that is going wrong with the world, someone has to stand up
> and show that there is a better way. When all voices are heard and
> reason and love rule, society always flourishes. With all that is
> going wrong with this world, we need the best of what Rome once was.
> We need Nova Roma.
>
> I am very happy to be back among you, and now I ask for your help.
> I'm afraid my son is losing all interest in learning. The school
> system has failed him, so it is up to me as his mother to turn this
> around. All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Vale!
>
> Gaia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40017 From: gaiusequitiuscato Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
C. Equitius Cato A. Apollonio Cordo omnibusque S.P.D.

Salve et salvete.

Corde, you wrote:

"I'm wondering whether you would change any of the current edicta on
commercial disputes? The current ones date from the aedilitas of C.
Julius and M. Julius, and were reissued unchanged by the current
aediles curules."

I believe them to be on the whole sound edicta; I would take look at
one or two items.

In particular, I would look at section C.3 of the EDICTUM DE
INTERDICTO RESTITUTORIO PER FORMULAM ARBITRARIAM and perhaps amend it
to read that where a conflict of interest does not exist, the aediles
themselves may decide who shall preside. I have several reasons,
among them:

* if one or the other aediles is currently involved in a particularly
time-consuming task --- any one of a number of issues regarding
upcoming Games, for instance, where the two aediles may have different
responsibilities at different times --- either one should be able to
pass the duties of presiding over a dispute to the other.

* if one or the other of the aediles is more familiar with the
particulars which might have a bearing on the dispute in question ---
i.e., local macronational laws, geography, language, etc. --- it may
be simply common sense for the aedile with that particular knowledge
to preside.

Another section which seems contradictory is section O, where first it
says that an intercessio can be applied, but then says that no-one
will seek an intercessio. Something to investigate.


You also wrote:

"[D]o you think the aediles plebis should be involved in the process
of aribtrating in commercial disputes? Up to now the aediles curules
have tended to do it on their own, I think."

The aediles curules were the only aediles in Rome who had the power to
issue edicta, under the ius edicendi:

"Ius autem edicendi habent magistratus populi Romani. Sed amplissimum
ius est in ... edictis aedilium curulium, quorum iurisdictionem in
provinciis populi Romani quaestores habent..." - Gaius, First
Commentary on the Rights of Romans i.6

and that power was based on their superintendence of the marketplace.
This being so, and our goal being to reconstruct as faithfully as
possible the structure of the ancient Roman government, I would say
that it should be left in the hands of the curule aediles.

Vale et valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40018 From: A. Apollonius Cordus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Aedilis Curulis Questions
A. Apollonius C. Equitio omnibusque sal.

Well, you've done your homework! It's always nice to
see a candidate answer a question so quickly, because
it shows he's already thought about it. Just a couple
of points:

> In particular, I would look at section C.3 of the
> EDICTUM DE
> INTERDICTO RESTITUTORIO PER FORMULAM ARBITRARIAM and
> perhaps amend it
> to read that where a conflict of interest does not
> exist, the aediles
> themselves may decide who shall preside. I have
> several reasons,
> among them:
>
> * if one or the other aediles is currently involved
> in a particularly
> time-consuming task --- any one of a number of
> issues regarding
> upcoming Games, for instance, where the two aediles
> may have different
> responsibilities at different times --- either one
> should be able to
> pass the duties of presiding over a dispute to the
> other.
>
> * if one or the other of the aediles is more
> familiar with the
> particulars which might have a bearing on the
> dispute in question ---
> i.e., local macronational laws, geography, language,
> etc. --- it may
> be simply common sense for the aedile with that
> particular knowledge
> to preside.

Fair points. But bear in mind that one of the basic
principles of the Roman judicial system was that if
one aedile (or one praetor) refused to hear a person's
case, or gave what that person thought was an unjust
ruling, that person could "appeal", as it were, to the
other one in the hope of a more favourable outcome. So
I hope you'd preserve that possibility, even if the
aediles can choose which of them hears the case
initially.

> Another section which seems contradictory is section
> O, where first it
> says that an intercessio can be applied, but then
> says that no-one
> will seek an intercessio. Something to investigate.

I *think* what is meant is that there can be
intercessio against some procedural decision during
the course of the case, but that there can be no
intercessio against the final verdict. It's not very
clear, though, but I think that must be it - at any
rate that would make sense historically, because in
the old republic there was a constitutional convention
that the verdict in a court-case could not be vetoed,
although veto could be exercised during the hearing.

> You also wrote:
>
> "[D]o you think the aediles plebis should be
> involved in the process
> of aribtrating in commercial disputes? Up to now the
> aediles curules
> have tended to do it on their own, I think."
>
> The aediles curules were the only aediles in Rome
> who had the power to
> issue edicta, under the ius edicendi:
>
> "Ius autem edicendi habent magistratus populi
> Romani. Sed amplissimum
> ius est in ... edictis aedilium curulium, quorum
> iurisdictionem in
> provinciis populi Romani quaestores habent..." -
> Gaius, First
> Commentary on the Rights of Romans i.6
>
> and that power was based on their superintendence of
> the marketplace.
> This being so, and our goal being to reconstruct as
> faithfully as
> possible the structure of the ancient Roman
> government, I would say
> that it should be left in the hands of the curule
> aediles.

Hmmm... I would interpret that quotation from Gaius
slightly differently. He says that magistrates have
the jus edicendi, but the most important law was in
(and here we have your ... in which I guess Gaius
probably mentions the praetores) the edicta of the
aediles curules. So it's not that the aediles plebis
didn't have the jus edicendi, just that for the
purposes of Gaius' book their edicta were not so
important. But you may well be right to say that the
jurisdiction over the market-place was exclusive to
the aediles curules - I can't remember off the top of
my head, and my books are elsewhere.

Thanks for your answers!



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40019 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Salve Gaia,

It is great to have you in Nova Roma!

I am not an American citizen in the macro world but I can honestly
say that these feelings of frustration, disillusionment, seeing
daily corruption, human rights violations etc are happening in every
country of the western world including my own. There are so many
changes both politically and socially that they are hard to keep up
with and / or accept. Things that were part of the social and moral
fabrics of a country when was young that were considered wrong,
immoral or a detrement to the nation are now considered perfectly
normal and are being pushed on the older generations like it or not.
This does create a lot of division and frustration for both the old
and the new but in time older generations pass away but the cycle
will continue when newer generations come along with ideas
outlandish to the present one.

In our late 60's hippie days I recall my mom who was educated in the
classics say, "Oh this decadent generation will be our ruin!" I
said, "Oh yeah? Every leader says that about every generation!"
Her reply, " Yes indeed! Socretes said it about the Greeks and they
fell! Marcus Aurelius said it about the Romans and they fell!
Churchill said it about the empire once and it fell!" Yuk, an answer
for everything!

Anyway, with regards to your son, I suggest you rent him all sorts
of historical movies from Ben Hur to Gladiator. Though they have a
lot of errors and innaccuracies they do spawn an interest and you
can discuss these with him. To me, the key to learning is motivation
and there is no better way to learn a new language than to get a
girlfriend from another country or culture; tis amazing how much
faster you progress. Also if possible, get him into classes with
great teachers. To me, teaching is a gift like leadership; no matter
what your education you either have or aquire the ability to teach
well or lead or you don't. Poor teachers who cannot stimulate and
motivate turn many students off.


Vale bene,

Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40020 From: os390account Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Salve et Salvete!

My discontent is not a country, but rather with the educational
system as a whole. In many places, it's great; in others,
it's an atrocity. I have seen teachers, who purport to
know "English," replace verbs of communication with the (sadly)
ubiquitous "like". E.g. He's like "hi," and I'm like "What's up?"

Additionally, I have seen teachers who declare that "There will be
one A, two Bs, three Cs, four Ds, and the rest of you will probably
fail." This fosters incredible competition among students, to the
point of being vicious and cutthroat at a time when team-building
and respect should be paramount. It's worse when a student who
excels is told, "Wait for the others to catch up." This creates an
obvious conflict in interpretation for the child. And the parents
say, "They're the teacher. They know more than I." Reminds me
of "Brave New World."

What has happened to teaching basic civics? And I don't mean as in
the negative reward system of many mainstream religions, used to
scare people into adhering to a particular set of mores. With
ambivalence as the mainstream, how could one expect children to
learn a set of mores that would promote positive ethical behavior as
well?

This isn't an issue of country. This is a societal one.

*falls off the soapbox*

Vale et Valete!

Q. Valerius Callidus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40021 From: Clovius Ullerius Ursus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Endorsement of Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus for Rogator c
I wish offer my full and unconditional support of My Friend and Brother
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus for the office of rogator. HE has
served Nova ROma and Lacus magni most honorably and without reserve and it
is only just that he be allowed to continue this honorable service to the
people.


Clovius Ullerius Ursus

_____

From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:23 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Rogator candidacy


Valetudo quod fortuna omnes,

As the time to vote draws near...

As the list of prospective candidates is thin...

As I have performed the office once before...

I do tender to the Cives of our fair new City, our beloved New Rome...

My Candidacy for the office of Rogator.

May the Holy guide our thoughts and deeds!
May the Spirits of our family lines nod in approval.
May we be of Worth to our fellow Nova Romans.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

Quaestor Emeritus, Rogator Emeritus, Provincial Legate Emeritus

Religio Septentrionalis - Poet

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40022 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Gaius Marius Aquilius for Rogator
Salve Romans


I am very pleased that Gaius Marius Aquilius has announced his candidacy for Rogator. A Nova Roman citizen from Brazil , he is currently serving as Legate as well as Scriba Propraetoris Aedilis Militarium to Propraetor Caius Arminius Reccanellus. I welcome his candidacy and strongly recommend him to the electorate. It is good to see citizens from all areas of the Roman world who are willing to serve.


Vale


Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40023 From: MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
M•CALIDIVS•GRACCHVS•QVIRITIBVS•S•P•D

SALVETE

I should briefly just like to publicly voice my support for the
candidature of honourable CORDVS in his bid for the office of
QVÆSTOR. Apologies for the lateness of reply.

I feel his regular, considered and measured contibutions, his
willingness to listen and help, coupled with his obvious intellect,
knowledge and integrity single him out for me as someone with the
type of skills, ability and acumen needed to serve in an important
magistracy such as this.

He obviously also has a great love and dedication to Rome.

VOTE CORDVS!!

VALETE


GRACCHVS



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VERITAS•LVX•MEA


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<a_apollonius_cordus@y...> wrote:
>
> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Quirites, you're probably getting bored with
> candidates by now, so I shan't keep you long.
>
> I have been a Roman citizen for three years. I have
> served as accensus to two consules, K. Fabius Buteo
> Quintilianus and C. Popillius Laenas, and as scriba to
> a praetor, Cn. Salvius Astur. I was rogator last year
> along with Flavius Galerius Aurelianus, C. Minucius
> Hadrianus, and Stephanus Ullerius Venator. I have been
> a member of the provincial government of Britannia for
> two and a half years under two successive governors,
> D. Junius Silanus and C. Livia. I am a member of the
> staff of the Academia Thules and have taught a course
> there on Roman republican law. Apart from carrying out
> my duties in our republic I formerly studied ancient
> history, gaining a degree in that subject from Oxford
> University, and I am now studying to become a
> barrister.
>
> I ask you to vote for me to be quaestor. Thank you for listening.
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40024 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ENDORSEMENT FOR Diribitor
Salve Romans

I too support the election of Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus as Diribitor.
He has been a roman of long standing and wide experience.

In addition anybody who creates a Sodalis dedicated to "Cooks and Beer" is ok in my book.
I bet he can even cook : ) Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq/


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus




----- Original Message -----
From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus<mailto:wend1066@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR


Valetudo quod fortuna,

On 11/29/05, M�IVL�SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...<mailto:marcusiuliusseverus@...>> wrote:
> Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
>[excision]
>
> Valete optime,.
>
> M�IVL�SEVERVS
> SCRIBA�CENSORIS�GEM
> MVS�VS�COLLEGII�ERATOVS�SODALITATIS�MVSARVM
> SOCIVS�CHORI�MVSARVM
>

I thank you most kindly.

I hope your support will continue, as I have amended my candidacy
statement to run for Diribitor, which friends have reminded me is now
what my old office is called.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

Rogue Diribitor - emeritus ,-)

Religio Septentrionalis - Poet

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40025 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: RES: [Nova-Roma] Questions for candidates
> Salue, G. Mari Aquili, et saluete, omnes!
>
>> > are you now or have you ever been a member
>> > of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
>> > group with political goals within our replublic?
>
> Salvete,
>
> Will be my first time, and my first step in my Curcus Honorum, in
> despite of had the honor of serving Nova Roma in my Provincia as 2nd
> Rank Official.
>
> No, I¹m still not a member of any political party, and I think that is a
> good point for a ROGATOR, function that I want to exert, because I will
> be in charge of new elections.
>
> ATS: It seems that you, like many of our citizens, are confused about the
> duties of the rogatores. The rogatores work in the censor¹s office
> registering new citizens. The diribitores count votes, and the custodes
> certify the elections.
>
> Perhaps you intended to run for diribitor instead...
>
>
> Valete,
>
> Gaius Marius Aquilius
>
> Legatus.Internis.Rebus
> Aedilis.Militarium
> Província.Brasilia
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40026 From: Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: RENVNTIATIO PRAESCRIPTORIS ACADEMIAE THVLES
RENVNTIATIO PRAESCRIPTORIS ACADEMIAE THVLES


ANNOUNCEMENT BY
the Praescriptor Academia Thules ad S.R.A. et N.

Pleno suo Tertio, Consilium Academiae Thules designationes suas
tantum annuas vel ad finem scholae subtiliter enumeratae manentes
esse decrevit.

During its Third Plenum the Consilium Academia Thules (The BoD of
Academia Thules) decided that appointments shall be limited to a one
year period or until the specific course ends.

Designationes quae dumtaxat diem quintum decimum (XV) mensis
Ianuari MMDCCLIX valebunt infra scribuntur; illo tempore
redesignationes novaeque designationes fient. Quidam collegarum
nostrorum nondum nobiscum collocuti sunt, quare Academia Thules vel
eiscum privatim agere consilium cepit vel nondum occasionem ut eiscum
colloquatur nacta est.

Semestrio primo mensis Ianuari, Academia Thules recensebit
titulos nominaque facultatum suarum ut naturam earum melius reddant.
Ad has mutationes reddendas designationes tunc renovabuntur.

Below the appointments follow that will be in force until at the
latest the 15th of January 2759 (2006) when possible re-appointments
and new appointments will be done. Some co-workers in the Academia
Thules have not been spoken with yet and the Academia Thules plan to
have discussions with them privately or haven't had time to contact
them yet.

During the first half of January the Academia will renew its titles
and department names better to reflect their nature. Present
appointments will then be renewed when necessary to reflect these
changes.

Ex iure mihi Praescriptori Academiae Thules Regula Academiae
Thules mandato hos dumtaxat diem quintum decimum (XV) mensis Ianuari
MMDCCLIX magistros capitaque Academiae Thules creo:

By the powers invested in me as Praescriptor Academia Thules by the
Regula of the Academia Thules I hereby appoint the following
personnel in the Academia Thules until at the latest the 15th of
January 2759 (2006):

A. Gratius Avitus, Caput Generis Doctrinae Linguae Latinae
A. Tullia Scholastica, praeceptrix Generis Doctrinae Linguae Latinae
A. Apollonius Cordus, Caput Generis Doctrinae Legis Romanae
M. Horatius Piscinus, Caput Generis Doctrinae Religionis Romanae
Cn. Salvius Astur, Caput Generis Doctrinae Historiae
C. Curius Saturninus, Caput Generis Doctrinae Philosophiae
C. Curius Saturninus, Caput Generis Doctrinae Novae Romae
M. Minucius-Tiberius Audens, Caput Generis Doctrinae Rerum Militarium


A. Gratius Garseius Avitus as Caput Generis Doctrinae Lingua Latina
(Director of the Latin Line)
Aula Tullia Scholastica as praeceptor for Generis Doctrinae Lingua
Latina (Teacher in Latin Line)
Aulus Apollonius Cordus as Caput Generis Doctrinae Lex Romana
(Director Law Line)
Marcus Horatius Piscinus as Caput Generis Doctrinae Religio Romana
(Director of Religio Romana Line)
Gnaeus Salvius Astur as Caput Generis Doctrinae Historica (Director
of History Line)
Caius Curius Saturninus as Caput Generis Doctrinae Philosophica
(Director of Philosophy)
Caius Curius Saturninus as Caput Generis Doctrinae Nova Roma
(Director of Nova Roma Line)
Marcus Minucius-Tiberius Audens as Caput Generis Doctrinae Res
Militarem (Director in Roman Military History Line)
--

Vale

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40027 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ENDORSEMENT FOR VENATOR
> A. Tullia Scholastica M. Iulio Seuero quiritibusque omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
> I would like to offer my full and wholehearted endorsement of S. Ullerius
> Venator Piperbarbus
> for the office of Rogator.
>
> ATS: In fact, he has now corrected the title of the office he seeks to
> diribitor. He will be a fine one as he has already served as rogator at a
> time when the rogatores counted votes rather than registered new citizens, as
> is now the case.
>
> He has all the Roman qualities our Res Publica needs and will be a fine
> public servant.
>
> ATS: I agree with that. Please note that this is NOT a political
> endorsement‹I don¹t make those, having been treated to the results thereof.
>
> Valete optime,.
>
> M•IVL•SEVERVS
> SCRIBA•CENSORIS•GEM
> MVSÆVS•COLLEGII•ERATOVS•SODALITATIS•MVSARVM
> SOCIVS•CHORI•MVSARVM
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40028 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT OF CANDIDACY
A. Tullia Scholastica M. Iulio Seuero quiritibusque omnibus S.P.D.

[For those of you who may have noticed that I have omitted my usual
greeting to the socii and peregrini, I shall point out that matters of Nova
Roman elections concern only the Quirites; other matters concern all who
join us here].
>
> Marcus Iulius Severus Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete,
>
> I come to you here dressing the toga candida, after informing our Consuls that
> I'm presenting myself as a candidate for the position of Rogator.
> I am 56 years old and a tax-paying citizen. I am also in my first year as a
> Nova Roman citizen.
> This is my first official foray into Nova Roman politics. I have been working
> hard to organize the Provincia Mexico, that was paralyzed until I started this
> effort, with the enthusiastic help of some other cives. I am a Scriba in the
> Conhors Censoris of Censor Gnaeus Equitius Marinus and Spanish interpreter,
> and the Musaeus of the Collegium Eratous, in the Sodalitas Musarum, as well as
> Socius of the Chorus Musarum.
> I also believe, as my dear colleague Aula Tullia Scholastica stated, that we
> should treat prospective citizens with kindness and understanding as we guide
> them through the hoops of the citizenship application process and the simple
> citizenship test which they must pass in order to become full citizens.
> As a Scriba in the Cohors Censoris, I know the duties of the Rogator and I am
> prepared to perform them with utmost dedication and efficiency.
> I hope you will support me with your votes.
>
> Valete optime,
>
> M•IVL•SEVERVS
> SCRIBA•CENSORIS•GEM
> MVSÆVS•COLLEGII•ERATOVS•SODALITATIS•MVSARVM
> SOCIVS•CHORI•MVSARVM
> PROVINCIA•MEXICO•NOVƕROMƕSPQR
>

ATS: Please note that what follows is NOT a political
endorsement. Those can get people tarred, feathered, and run out of town on
a rail, as was attempted when I ventured to perform such an audacious action
in the past.

M. Iulius Seuerus is a friend and colleague in the censorial
office of new citizen approvals, where we work in conjunction with the
rogatores and the censor to get prospective citizens a proper Roman name,
register them, and see to it that they receive and complete the citizenship
examination, and deal with other routine matters pertaining to this
function. This is the proper preparation for a rogator, for the rogatores
DO NOT, as they have in the past, count votes. They register new citizens.

In that capacity, and as musaeus of Erato in the Sodalitas
Musarum, of which I am coryphaea, M. Iulius Seuerus has been a bundle of
energy, very active and engaged. He already has relevant experience as a
censorial scriba, and is a real go-getter, who someday may go far in our Res
Publica. I promised that I would introduce him as he isn¹t well known
outside of Musarum, the censor¹s office, and his own provincia, where he is
also very active, conducting frequent meetings of the citizenry, but dare
not endorse him or anyone else. I will only say that he would be a credit
to the Res Publica in any capacity he chooses to pursue.

Vale, et ualete,

A. Tullia Scholastica



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40029 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: STILL WITH VENATOR...
Severus Venator omnibusque sal.

Venator amice, of course I reaffirm my support for you. I am sure you'll be an excellent Diribitor, as you were before.
Salve Quirites: I invite you to vote Venator for Diribitor.

Valete optime,

M•IVL•SEVERVS
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40030 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
> Salue, Iuli Sabine, et saluete, quirites!
>
> SALVETE QUIRITES !
>
> I want to add my support for our magistra candidacy. She is a great
> volunteer of NR. And I don't said that only from her latin abilities.
> Tullia Scholastica is a renactor,too, and she is involved in a lot of
> NR activities. You all knows that better.
> It is not necessary to say more ! In NR are some citizens for who the
> facts are speaking. Tullia Scholastica is one of them.
>
> VALETE,
> IVL SABINVS
>
> ATS: Thank you very much for your support. I am pleasantly surprised to
> find so many citizens supporting my candidacy for this unglamorous, but very
> necessary, post. The work of the diribitores and custodes centers around the
> elections, at which time it is very intense, but that of the rogatores is
> near-constant, and often intense. Those of us who work in the censor¹s office
> know that, and that experience as a censorial scriba is highly beneficial as
> preparation for it‹as is a knowledge of Latin, for we must work with the
> prospective citizens to produce a correct Roman name.
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
>
>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40031 From: vespasian72001 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
Titus Flavius Vespasianus S.P.D.

A. Apollonius Cordus asked:

"And finally, for all candidates, my favourite question: are you now or
have you ever been a member of any political party, alliance, faction,
or other group with political goals within our replublic?"

TFV: This question seemed a bit McCarthyist (pardon the negative
allusion here), however, it is easy enough answered, and I believe
asked in good faith...

Well, I consider myself a friend and supporter of the Libra Alliance,
although there is generally a year-long trial period before one can
enter the group.

Pardon the digression here, but I firmly believe in a holistic model of
Nova Roma, that is trying to meet the needs of ALL of the citizens, and
running a Roman government for ALL Romans, not just the ones we like,
or share nationality with, but every single citizen!

I know you will agree with this sentiment.

Valete,

Titus Flavius Vespasianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40032 From: Judy Ridgley Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Gaia
I would suggest home schooling. Get his input on what he wants to learn and add the rest of the curriculum to it. Seek out the home schooling groups which have grown very large since I home schooled my little ones. Bear in mind however that some teachers and other educators are as frustrated with their hands tied or dictates that have caused many to leave the profession. Listen to who is doing the preaching and it won't be so much from the inside as the outside ie science. Most important is to have him curious and feed that. You'll be amazed at the joy you'll receive.
Ave
Iulla
----- Original Message -----
From: ladycarissastormbringer
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] A Discontent American - RANT!


Salve, Omnes!

Si valetis valeo!

I hope you all will forgive this newbie for getting up on a soap box
straight away, but I have something to say.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am not an eloquent speaker, but with all
that is in me I want to thank Nova Roma for being here. As an
American, I have often felt like an orphan, like I have no tribe, no
family, no culture to which I belong. The very best anyone can say
about American culture is that we are industrious. That, in my
opinion, is greatly outweighed by our greed, injustice, bigotry and
stupidity. This is not the culture I want for me, or for my
descendants. I believe in honor, responsibility, and being there for
eachother. I'm sick and tired of corrupt leaders, gay-bashing and
the removal of science and intellectualism from our schools. This
isn't the kind of society I want to be a part of.

My 14 year old son is doing portfolios instead of receiving actual
teaching from an educated professional. He is neither challenged nor
engaged by our society. When our children don't find learning useful
and interesting, we have a serious problem. This isn't right. This
isn't how we prepare the next generation to take care of our world.

I have begun reading my son the myths and I interject comments about
the Gods into our conversation whenever I can. When he has trouble
with something in his life my first reaction is to ask, "Which God
do you think can help you with that problem?" Science is his worst
subject, so I'm planning on taking him to the Planetarium. I want
him to know about how the ancients pondered the Heavens, and how
mankind has slowly grown over the centuries. I want him to know that
being smart isn't a crime, and that intellectualism makes the world
your oyster.

I dream of a world where all people are valued, where science and
religion reside peacefully together, where the Arts flourish, and
where the Gods are adored. I dream of a place...a lot like Rome.
That's why I'm here, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am here not just for
myself, but for my son and those who will follow after. I've
travelled with Odysseus on the stormy seas, pondered the moon with
Galileo, and found comfort from ancient Gods even in this modern age
of superhighways and high-volume Internet data transfer. I want
these same things to remain for my descendant, because I know
they're going to need them.

With all that is going wrong with the world, someone has to stand up
and show that there is a better way. When all voices are heard and
reason and love rule, society always flourishes. With all that is
going wrong with this world, we need the best of what Rome once was.
We need Nova Roma.

I am very happy to be back among you, and now I ask for your help.
I'm afraid my son is losing all interest in learning. The school
system has failed him, so it is up to me as his mother to turn this
around. All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Vale!

Gaia










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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40033 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: I AM GRATEFUL, A. TULLIA SCHOLASTICA
M. Iulius Severus A. Tulliae Scholasticae omnibus S.P.D.

Thank you very much for your generous words and kind introduction,
dilecta amica. I'll do my best effort not to disappoint those who trust
me.

Valete optime,


M•IVL•SEVERVS
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40034 From: vespasian72001 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: McCarthy Discussion
in my previous messgae, btw, concerning the "questions for candidates,"
I didn't mean to get involved in this discussion in ANY way...
Pardon the allusion.

Let us get beyond all this.

Vale,

Vespasianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40035 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
> A. Tullia Scholastica Gaiae sine aliis nominibus quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Salve, Omnes!
>
> Si valetis valeo!
>
> I hope you all will forgive this newbie for getting up on a soap box
> straight away, but I have something to say.
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I am not an eloquent speaker, but with all
> that is in me I want to thank Nova Roma for being here. As an
> American, I have often felt like an orphan, like I have no tribe, no
> family, no culture to which I belong. The very best anyone can say
> about American culture is that we are industrious. That, in my
> opinion, is greatly outweighed by our greed, injustice, bigotry and
> stupidity.
>
> ATS: Well, I wouldn¹t go so far as to say that all Americans, or even
> most, are greedy, unjust, bigoted, or stupid, though plenty of them fit into
> one or another of these categories.
>
> This is not the culture I want for me, or for my
> descendants. I believe in honor, responsibility, and being there for
> eachother. I'm sick and tired of corrupt leaders, gay-bashing and
> the removal of science and intellectualism from our schools. This
> isn't the kind of society I want to be a part of.
>
> ATS: I agree completely.
>
> My 14 year old son is doing portfolios instead of receiving actual
> teaching from an educated professional. He is neither challenged nor
> engaged by our society. When our children don't find learning useful
> and interesting, we have a serious problem. This isn't right. This
> isn't how we prepare the next generation to take care of our world.
>
> ATS: No, it isn¹t. But that¹s how the teachers are being taught in the
> schools of education. I graduated from one, and so did my mom‹when such things
> were, however, less likely to be curricular elements.
>
> I have begun reading my son the myths and I interject comments about
> the Gods into our conversation whenever I can. When he has trouble
> with something in his life my first reaction is to ask, "Which God
> do you think can help you with that problem?" Science is his worst
> subject, so I'm planning on taking him to the Planetarium. I want
> him to know about how the ancients pondered the Heavens, and how
> mankind has slowly grown over the centuries. I want him to know that
> being smart isn't a crime, and that intellectualism makes the world
> your oyster.
>
> ATS: I happen to be one of the comparatively-few humanities majors who
> likes science, and did well in it at school. Believe me, I know the sting of
> being shunned or insulted because of being intelligent and liking school. The
> lack of respect for the most intelligent members of our society is one thing
> which might well lead to our downfall, for it is they who, in the end, are
> among the most important members of society.
>
> I dream of a world where all people are valued, where science and
> religion reside peacefully together, where the Arts flourish, and
> where the Gods are adored. I dream of a place...a lot like Rome.
> That's why I'm here, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am here not just for
> myself, but for my son and those who will follow after. I've
> travelled with Odysseus on the stormy seas, pondered the moon with
> Galileo, and found comfort from ancient Gods even in this modern age
> of superhighways and high-volume Internet data transfer. I want
> these same things to remain for my descendant, because I know
> they're going to need them.
>
> With all that is going wrong with the world, someone has to stand up
> and show that there is a better way. When all voices are heard and
> reason and love rule, society always flourishes. With all that is
> going wrong with this world, we need the best of what Rome once was.
> We need Nova Roma.
>
> ATS: I agree‹and not only because this is one place where those who are
> intelligent and educated are respected, not only because those who are
> interested in the culture of ancient Rome and other ancient civilizations are
> honored here rather than reviled as we often are in the outside world, but
> because the world needs us, and the lessons of Rome and the other ancient
> civilizations it has too often spurned.
>
> I am very happy to be back among you, and now I ask for your help.
> I'm afraid my son is losing all interest in learning. The school
> system has failed him, so it is up to me as his mother to turn this
> around. All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> ATS: As some others have suggested, perhaps home schooling would be an
> option, or perhaps private school. In certain areas, Catholic schools are an
> option, though if, as it seems, you are a practitioner, that might present a
> different problem. It¹s no surprise to me that anyone is fed up with the
> schools today; the curriculum has reduced below the lowest common denominator
> to satisfy the parents of those who prefer television and sports to anything
> resembling academics‹or even the arts. I taught college Latin from a text
> which introduced three of the five Latin ordinary cases (there are two others)
> from the first three of the five declensions‹in a whole semester. I learned
> that much BEFORE I set foot in a Latin classroom, and had almost certainly had
> much more than that by the first ten weeks of high school Latin I. That isn¹t
> how most people learn languages, and this method just doesn¹t work‹but such
> sissified nonsense is what goes on in the schools and colleges today. Some of
> my recent tutorees haven¹t even heard of Charlemagne, let alone Cicero and
> Vergil. What in the world are they learning? The rules for sports which
> didn¹t exist here when I was in school? The finer points of B&D? They teach
> that, but nothing important.
>
> Vale!
>
> Gaia
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40036 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
SALVE MAGISTRA ET SALVETE QUIRITES !

"A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...> wrote: The work of the diribitores and custodes centers around the
> elections, at which time it is very intense, but that of the rogatores is
> near-constant, and often intense. Those of us who work in the censor¹s office
> know that, and that experience as a censorial scriba is highly beneficial as
> preparation for it‹as is a knowledge of Latin, for we must work with the
> prospective citizens to produce a correct Roman name.>>>
Yes, magistra. You have pointed very well this subject. Because in Nova Roma are a lot of people who work silently. In a lot of magistrates cohors.
In fact they are who keep Nova Roma alive. They and their silent but very effective work.
I want to thank to all of them. Esspecially to my very nice, kindly and dedicated Rogatrix Marca Martiana Gangalia Marcella.
VALE ET VALETE,
IVL SABINVS







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40037 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Quintus Fabius Maximus stands for the office of Censor
Romans!
Let us give the people a choice.
I, Quintus Fabius Maximus hereby give my announcement to stand for the office
of Censor.
For me the Censorship is the final step of the Cursus Honorum, I have been
involved in
public service here in Nova Roma for most of my time here, serving as Curule
Aedile,
Quaestor, Praetor and Consul.

I also have aided with other leading citizens, the Founder F. Vedius
Germanicus revision of the Nova Roma Constitution.

The Censor’s office is non partisan one, Censors do not make law, nor do they
have much say in the day to day operation of Nova Roma.
The Censor’s office is a commitment to work, it is a two year post, and
requires reliability. I have never forsaken any office either appointed or elected
to by the people.
I have never resigned my citizenship. I missed one Senate call due to
computer malfunction.
How many else here can make the same claim?

People have asked for candidates views. Here is mine:
When I came to Nova Roma, I came with a historian sensibilities, this is I
was going to write a history of the forming of a republic modeled on Roman
values and organization.
But now I want to see the Religio regain its place in the world once more.
So far, this has not happened nor will it in my lifetime. However, I believe a
strong foundation is needed to establish the eventual day when the Religio
does this very thing. I’m devoted
to see that this foundation is started and carried out.

I believe in strict reconstruction. That means that I believe that before we
adopt modern ways we should try the Roman way first. In all things. The
Roman way cannot be used, then and only then should other alternatives be
considered. And these alternatives should try to stay as true to Roman history as
is possible.
There was group of people (faction) with these same views, however, it no
longer exists though many of the people remain friends.

I can promise hard work and dedication to this office. I have poured money,
time, and research into this reconstruction because I consider it a sacred
duty.
I would appreciate your vote.

Thank you for your attention

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40038 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Submission of Candidacy for Magister Aranearius
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Minucio Scaeuolae magistro araneario quiritibusque
> omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Just a little comment at the end...
>
> Salvete, quirites -
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:35:29PM -0000, os390account wrote:
>> > Salvete Quirites,
>> >
>> > Donning the toga candida, I, Quintus Valerius Callidus of the tribe
>> > Galeria, would humbly like to submit my name for consideration as
>> > Magister Aranearius for Nova Roma.
>
> I am not usually in the habit of endorsing candidates (this year, it was
> rather hard to resist - we have such a fine slate to choose from!)
> However, I will speak up in this case, from the perspective of technical
> merit: yesterday, I spent a very pleasurable half-hour or so chatting
> with Q. Valerius Callidus about his qualifications for the position of
> Magister Aranearius, and I believe him to be an excellent fit for the
> position.
>
> I was also very impressed with his energy and his desire to serve Nova
> Roma. In my estimation, this is the man who combines the best qualities
> necessary to serve Nova Roma's needs in this position at this time.
>
> This is not in any way intended to disregard or minimize the
> contributions of those others who have also offered themselves as
> candidates for this position; in fact, my best hope is to leave this
> office staffed with a competent senior _and_ junior webmaster, the
> latter being trained by the former. However, since currently there's no
> such official position as "Apprenditicius Aranearius" [1], I can only
> recommend one man - who, I hope, will choose the second most-qualified
> volunteer as his Scriba.
>
> Please vote for Q. Valerius Callidus.
>
>
> [1] The Latin Sodalitas will surely post a large reward for my head
> after seeing my "version" of Latin construction and grammar...
>
> ATS: Oh, no we won¹t! Besides, Scaeuola, I don¹t think I could lick you!
> Now, Auitus on the other hand, has had martial-arts training, and might be
> able to take you on...
>
> Moreover, Œapprenticius¹ is medieval Latin for Œapprentice,¹ so you aren¹t
> too far off anyway. Classical Latin is tiro, discipulus, or alumnus, with
> appropriate feminine forms for the latter (if there are any women in this
> field...).
>
>
> Valete,
> Caius Minucius Scaevola
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Arte et Marte.
> With peaceful effort and warlike feats.
> -- N/A
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40039 From: MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: Questions for candidates
M•CALIDIVS•GRACCHVS•CN•SALVIO•ASTVRI•S•P•D

SALVE

You raise a very interesting point and, yes, by all means let us
review the role of the tribunate within NOVA ROMA as compared with
ROMA ANTIQVA.

I, personally, believe that the correct path for us is to get as
close to ROMA ANTIQVA in all aspects as we can.

There are, however, difficulties and the ancient role of the
tribunate is as good an example as any to exemplify this. As, I,m
sure you're aware, the role of the TRIBVNI PLEBIS was an evolving
one from a magistracy of protection of the plebs to potentially and
DE FACTO the most powerful magistracy in the Republic, eventually
forming an effective oposition to the Senate and Oligarchy. It went
from collegiality to INTERCESSIO, it evolved to represent both
Patricians and Plebs, from PLEBISCITA that as LEGES came to be
binding on all the people. The relationship of the tribunate with
the Senate varied according to what part of the Republic we are
looking at, the Late Republic saw SVLLA remove and dilute tribunate
power only to see it restored still later at the time of CRASSVS.
At times the Senate ordered the Tribunes to act, at others Tribunes
ordered Consuls to act on decrees of the Senate. Tribunes came to a
position where they could originate and put proposals to the COMITIA
TRIBVTA and the Senate on most of the affairs of state sometimes
without a prior SENATVS CONSVLTVM.

If the rights of the people are enshrined in a written constitution
(leaving aside whether that is in itself historically acurate or
desirable) then a tribune would be right to defend those rights. In
ROMA ANTIQVA both the Senate and the ruling Oligarchy were open to
abuses of power and privilege, equally tribunician power was open to
potential abuse. The GRACCHI paid with their lives, as did others
such as M. LIVIVS DRVSVS for attempting to introduce much needed
reform.

We in NOVA ROMA see the same potentiality for conflict.


VALE


GRACCHVS



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VERITAS•LVX•MEA


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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Salvius Astur
<cn.salvius.astur@g...> wrote:
>
> CN·SALVIVS·ASTVR·QVIRITIBVS·S·P·D
>
> A. Apollonius Cordus scripsit:
>
> > For the candidates for tribune: what do you think is
> > the principal function of the tribunes in our
> > republic? Do you think it should be changed?
>
> So far, and with particular vehemence this year, it has been
> interpreted that the duty of the Tribuni Plebis is to safeguard the
> Constitution of Nova Roma -- to be the Nova Roma equivalent to a
> Supreme Court.
>
> I do not challenge this interpretation -- very probably, it is
exactly
> what the law says -- but I am convinced that this was *not* what
the
> Tribuni Plebis were for in Ancient Rome.
>
> In Nova Roma, we have put ourselves in a difficult situation. Part
of
> Nova Roma's goal is to reconstruct the political system of Ancient
> Rome. Since the very beginning, our laws, regulations and by-laws
have
> moved towards that direction. However, our system right now is not
an
> exact copy of the Late Republican system, and there are reasons for
> that. Some of the differences between Nova Roma and Roma Antiqua
are
> caused by the modern environment we all live in, and we will
probably
> have to deal with them for a long time. But others were simply born
> out of a lack of knowledge about the ancient Roman political
system.
>
> I think that the time has come for us (*all* of us) to review the
role
> of the Tribunate in Nova Roma. It does not follow historical
practice,
> and that might be particularly important in our current
environment,
> because the Tribuni Plebis played a mayor role in the system of
checks
> and balances that kept equilibrium in the Roman political system.
We
> have to reach a better understanding of the role of the Tribuni
Plebis
> and then we have to discuss what changes are necessary (if any) to
> move forward to our objective: a political system that reconstructs
> the Roman Republic as closely as possible.
>
> [...]
>
> > And finally, for all candidates, my favourite
> > question: are you now or have you ever been a member
> > of any political party, alliance, faction, or other
> > group with political goals within our replublic?
>
> With all due respect, care Corde, this question of yours doesn't
make
> too much sense, since you are not defining what you mean by party,
> alliance or faction. :-)
>
> In any case, if what you mean is if I have ever discussed about
> politics with other citizens outside of this mailing list, the
answer
> is yes -- one of them being A. Apollonius Cordus himself. If you
are
> asking if I have ever found other citizens to agree with me in some
> basic political principles, the answer is yes. If you are asking
me if
> me and those citizens have made that concordance known to the
general
> public, the answer is, once again, yes. I don't know if one should
> call that a party, an alliance or a faction or a group of people
who
> incidentally agree on a couple of things (and disagree on many
other
> things). :-)
>
> S·V·B·E·E·V
>
> CN·SALVIVS·T·F·A·NEP·OVF·ASTVR·SCRIPSIT
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40040 From: Cant97 Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Re: A Discontent American - RANT!
Salvete, Omnes!



Si valetis valeo!



Thank you all for understanding my dilemma and offering sound advice.
Unfortunately I don't have the time for homeschooling, or the money for
private school. I think my best bet is to involve him in learning activities
on my own time. This makes me mad, but as someone put it, the teachers are
told not only what but how they must teach. Even if it is not working, they
can't change it.



You've all been very helpful. I'll keep you posted as things progress. I
have to start slow. My son already has a disdain for school, so I have to
make this as fun as possible.



Wish me luck!



Valete,



Gaia



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40041 From: Timothy P. Gallagher Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Home Schooling
Salve Gaia

Here are some website you may want to look at

http://www.classicalhomeschooling.com/<http://www.classicalhomeschooling.com/>

http://www.classicalcurriculum.com/<http://www.classicalcurriculum.com/>


Vale

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----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Ridgley<mailto:judyridgley@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] A Discontent American - RANT!


Gaia
I would suggest home schooling. Get his input on what he wants to learn and add the rest of the curriculum to it. Seek out the home schooling groups which have grown very large since I home schooled my little ones. Bear in mind however that some teachers and other educators are as frustrated with their hands tied or dictates that have caused many to leave the profession. Listen to who is doing the preaching and it won't be so much from the inside as the outside ie science. Most important is to have him curious and feed that. You'll be amazed at the joy you'll receive.
Ave
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From: ladycarissastormbringer
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] A Discontent American - RANT!


Salve, Omnes!

Si valetis valeo!

I hope you all will forgive this newbie for getting up on a soap box
straight away, but I have something to say.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am not an eloquent speaker, but with all
that is in me I want to thank Nova Roma for being here. As an
American, I have often felt like an orphan, like I have no tribe, no
family, no culture to which I belong. The very best anyone can say
about American culture is that we are industrious. That, in my
opinion, is greatly outweighed by our greed, injustice, bigotry and
stupidity. This is not the culture I want for me, or for my
descendants. I believe in honor, responsibility, and being there for
eachother. I'm sick and tired of corrupt leaders, gay-bashing and
the removal of science and intellectualism from our schools. This
isn't the kind of society I want to be a part of.

My 14 year old son is doing portfolios instead of receiving actual
teaching from an educated professional. He is neither challenged nor
engaged by our society. When our children don't find learning useful
and interesting, we have a serious problem. This isn't right. This
isn't how we prepare the next generation to take care of our world.

I have begun reading my son the myths and I interject comments about
the Gods into our conversation whenever I can. When he has trouble
with something in his life my first reaction is to ask, "Which God
do you think can help you with that problem?" Science is his worst
subject, so I'm planning on taking him to the Planetarium. I want
him to know about how the ancients pondered the Heavens, and how
mankind has slowly grown over the centuries. I want him to know that
being smart isn't a crime, and that intellectualism makes the world
your oyster.

I dream of a world where all people are valued, where science and
religion reside peacefully together, where the Arts flourish, and
where the Gods are adored. I dream of a place...a lot like Rome.
That's why I'm here, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am here not just for
myself, but for my son and those who will follow after. I've
travelled with Odysseus on the stormy seas, pondered the moon with
Galileo, and found comfort from ancient Gods even in this modern age
of superhighways and high-volume Internet data transfer. I want
these same things to remain for my descendant, because I know
they're going to need them.

With all that is going wrong with the world, someone has to stand up
and show that there is a better way. When all voices are heard and
reason and love rule, society always flourishes. With all that is
going wrong with this world, we need the best of what Rome once was.
We need Nova Roma.

I am very happy to be back among you, and now I ask for your help.
I'm afraid my son is losing all interest in learning. The school
system has failed him, so it is up to me as his mother to turn this
around. All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Vale!

Gaia










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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40042 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-29
Subject: Those minor offices...
A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus omnibus S.P.D.

Judging from reading the posts of some citizens who have offered
themselves as candidates for the minor offices of Nova Roma, there still
seems to be a lot of confusion about the nature of the various minor
offices. In accordance with the Lex Equitia de Vigintisexuiris, which I
translated into Latin last year, we now have two rogatores, who in effect
are the registrars of new citizens, four diribitores, who count votes, and
two custodes, who are election judges.

The main point of confusion seems to center around the duties of the
rogatores, for in the past they counted votes, and certified the
elections‹but NO LONGER do this. Until this January, the rogatores counted
votes, and there were no diribitores or custodes. We now have a more
historically accurate system in which diribitores count votes, and rogatores
have nothing to do with elections.

The rogatores now work in the censor¹s office under the direction of the
censor and in conjunction with the censorial scribae. They collect the
mail, assign prospective citizens to the scribae for processing, and
generally supervise the scribae under the direction of the censor to make
sure that the citizen applications are processed and the tests sent out and
corrected, etc. The work is nearly-constant, for we can have twenty or more
applications a day, and all must have their proposed names vetted for
Latinity and their age verified as adult, then assigned to the scribae. It
is also distinctly unglamorous, but very necessary; moreover, the best
preparation for this office is experience as a censorial scriba, which both
M. Iulius Seuerus and I have.

The diribitores and the custodes now share the duties formerly assigned
to the rogatores; the former count the votes, and the latter certify the
elections. Their work is intense, but only at election time; the work of
the rogatores is nearly constant. I wouldn¹t want anyone to be misled as
to the nature of these offices, particularly those who are candidates for
them; if someone runs for rogator thinking that it has to do with elections,
and involves work only at election time, or is unsupervised, he or she will
be sadly mistaken. Those who wish to deal with the elections should run for
diribitor or custos; these are important offices in their own right, and
ones for which experience in a cohors is valuable, but that in the censorial
cohors is unnecessary; likewise, a knowledge of Latin or other languages
isn¹t necessary for the diribitores or custodes, for whom mathematics and/or
statistics seem more useful, whereas a knowledge of several languages is
very helpful for the censorial scribae and rogatores. Some of our
prospective citizens write to the censores in Latin as well as a host of
other languages.

So, in a nutshell:

the rogatores/rogatrices (2) are now registrars of new citizens;

the diribitores (4) are election officials who count votes;

the custodes (2) are also election officials who certify the
elections, and break any ties. They are also allowed to assist with vote
counting.


Hope this clarifies matters. If anyone has questions, he or she should
consult the Lex Equitia de Vigintisexuiris.

Valete,

A. Tullia Scholastica




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40043 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus for Rogat
Valetudo quod fortuna Ursus

My Brother has always been one of my strongest proponents.

I co-performed the ceremony, which wed him to the magnificent Myra.

Clovius, I have amended my candidacy to reflect that my old office of
"Rogator" is now called Diribitor.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

Rogue Diribitor - emeritus ,-)

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May the Holy Powers smile on our efforts.
May the Spirits of our family lines nod in approval.
May we be of Worth to our fellow Nova Romans.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40044 From: Peter Bird Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
Salvete, omnes –

Oportet me dicere me petitionem doctissimae Aulae Tulliae Scholasticae
petitionem toto corde sustinere ob maximam causam illam esse omnino optimam.

Sextus Pontius Pilatus Barbatus



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From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of A. Tullia Scholastica
Sent: 29 November 2005 22:21
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix



> Salue, Iuli Sabine, et saluete, quirites!
>
> SALVETE QUIRITES !
>
> I want to add my support for our magistra candidacy. She is a great
> volunteer of NR. And I don't said that only from her latin abilities.
> Tullia Scholastica is a renactor,too, and she is involved in a lot of
> NR activities. You all knows that better.
> It is not necessary to say more ! In NR are some citizens for who the
> facts are speaking. Tullia Scholastica is one of them.
>
> VALETE,
> IVL SABINVS
>
> ATS: Thank you very much for your support. I am pleasantly surprised
to
> find so many citizens supporting my candidacy for this unglamorous, but
very
> necessary, post. The work of the diribitores and custodes centers around
the
> elections, at which time it is very intense, but that of the rogatores is
> near-constant, and often intense. Those of us who work in the censor¹s
office
> know that, and that experience as a censorial scriba is highly beneficial
as
> preparation for it‹as is a knowledge of Latin, for we must work with the
> prospective citizens to produce a correct Roman name.
>
> Vale, et ualete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
>
>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40045 From: Peter Bird Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi
Salvete, omnes –

Toto corde Cordi petitionem sustineo ob causas infra dictas.

Sextus Pontius Pilatus Barbatus



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Of MARCVS CALIDIVS GRACCHVS
Sent: 29 November 2005 20:35
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Candidatura quaestoria A. Apollonii Cordi



M•CALIDIVS•GRACCHVS•QVIRITIBVS•S•P•D

SALVETE

I should briefly just like to publicly voice my support for the
candidature of honourable CORDVS in his bid for the office of
QVÆSTOR. Apologies for the lateness of reply.

I feel his regular, considered and measured contibutions, his
willingness to listen and help, coupled with his obvious intellect,
knowledge and integrity single him out for me as someone with the
type of skills, ability and acumen needed to serve in an important
magistracy such as this.

He obviously also has a great love and dedication to Rome.

VOTE CORDVS!!

VALETE


GRACCHVS



TVVS• IN• SODILICIO• RES •PVBLICA• ROMANÆ

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>
> A. Apollonius omnibus sal.
>
> Quirites, you're probably getting bored with
> candidates by now, so I shan't keep you long.
>
> I have been a Roman citizen for three years. I have
> served as accensus to two consules, K. Fabius Buteo
> Quintilianus and C. Popillius Laenas, and as scriba to
> a praetor, Cn. Salvius Astur. I was rogator last year
> along with Flavius Galerius Aurelianus, C. Minucius
> Hadrianus, and Stephanus Ullerius Venator. I have been
> a member of the provincial government of Britannia for
> two and a half years under two successive governors,
> D. Junius Silanus and C. Livia. I am a member of the
> staff of the Academia Thules and have taught a course
> there on Roman republican law. Apart from carrying out
> my duties in our republic I formerly studied ancient
> history, gaining a degree in that subject from Oxford
> University, and I am now studying to become a
> barrister.
>
> I ask you to vote for me to be quaestor. Thank you for listening.
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40046 From: S Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus stands for the office of Censor
Valetudo quod fortuna omnes,

On 11/29/05, QFabiusMaxmi@... <QFabiusMaxmi@...> wrote:
> Romans!
> Let us give the people a choice.
> I, Quintus Fabius Maximus hereby give my announcement to stand for the office
> of Censor.
> [excision]
>

As Quintus Fabius is one of my oldest correspondents in Nova Roma,

As I have always found him to be honest, though sometimes in
possession of ideas with which I disagree,

As I have always been informed by his words,: public and private,

As I have confidence in his love for Nova Roma,

As I have confidence in his competence;

He has my vote.

=========================================
In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor

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May the Holy Powers smile on our efforts.
May the Spirits of our family lines nod in approval.
May we be of Worth to our fellow Nova Romans.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 40047 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2005-11-30
Subject: Re: Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
> A. Tullia Scholastica Sexto Pontio Pilato Barbato collegae quiritibusque
> omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete, omnes –
>
> Oportet me dicere me petitionem doctissimae Aulae Tulliae Scholasticae
> petitionem toto corde sustinere ob maximam causam illam esse omnino optimam.
>
> ATS: Plurimas gratias tibi agendas ex imo corde pro benignissimis uerbis
> tuis!
>
> Nunc habemus rem nouam‹primo petitionem Latine scriptam, tunc responsum et
> exhortationem Latine. Nonne gaudeat Auitus noster?
>
> Sextus Pontius Pilatus Barbatus
>
> Vale et ualete quam optime,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of A. Tullia Scholastica
> Sent: 29 November 2005 22:21
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Endorsement of Aula Tullia Scholastica for Rogatrix
>
>
>
>> > Salue, Iuli Sabine, et saluete, quirites!
>> >
>> > SALVETE QUIRITES !
>> >
>> > I want to add my support for our magistra candidacy. She is a great
>> > volunteer of NR. And I don't said that only from her latin abilities.
>> > Tullia Scholastica is a renactor,too, and she is involved in a lot of
>> > NR activities. You all knows that better.
>> > It is not necessary to say more ! In NR are some citizens for who the
>> > facts are speaking. Tullia Scholastica is one of them.
>> >
>> > VALETE,
>> > IVL SABINVS
>> >
>> > ATS: Thank you very much for your support. I am pleasantly surprised
> to
>> > find so many citizens supporting my candidacy for this unglamorous, but
> very
>> > necessary, post. The work of the diribitores and custodes centers around
> the
>> > elections, at which time it is very intense, but that of the rogatores is
>> > near-constant, and often intense. Those of us who work in the censor¹s
> office
>> > know that, and that experience as a censorial scriba is highly beneficial
> as
>> > preparation for it‹as is a knowledge of Latin, for we must work with the
>> > prospective citizens to produce a correct Roman name.
>> >
>> > Vale, et ualete,
>> >
>> > A. Tullia Scholastica
>> >
>> >
>
>



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