Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Jan 1-6, 2007

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48353 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Kal. Ian.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48354 From: Brett Murphy Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48355 From: Shadow DarkFyre Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: The Quiet of the New Year
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48356 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Omnymi (comprehensible to Yahoo)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48357 From: Gaius Flavius Ductoris Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: posting of magisterial oaths
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48358 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Post Oath to Main Forum Only Please
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48359 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: posting of magisterial oaths-Response to G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48360 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48361 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Consular oath of office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48362 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: A face to face meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48363 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Advices for magistrates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48364 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Fasti Ianuarii
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48365 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Cerimony of the first day of consulship
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48366 From: David Kling (Modianus) Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Cerimony of the first day of consulship
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48367 From: David Kling (Modianus) Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Lex Curiata de Imperio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48368 From: Lucius Cassius Cornutus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: New Year's Ritual for Ianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48369 From: Lucius Cassius Cornutus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: IANUS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48370 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office (Latin), Gaius Equitius Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48371 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Office of C. Equitius Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48372 From: M·CVR·COMPLVTENSIS Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: REPORT OF SENATE SESSION: ITEM II (CORRECTED)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48373 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48374 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Happy New Year to all!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48375 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Prayer for The New Year of Nova Roma on Kal. Ian. 2760 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48376 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48377 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48378 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48379 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48380 From: Tita Artoria Marcella Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of office --Tita Artoria Marcella
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48381 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Happy New Year to all
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48382 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Fasti Ianuarii
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48383 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48384 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Fasti Ianuarii
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48385 From: Tita Artoria Marcella Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Fasti Ianuarii
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48386 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48387 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48388 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Happy New Year to all!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48389 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Fasti Anni MMDCCLX
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48390 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Magna Mater Project - final report.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48391 From: Gregory Rose Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48392 From: C. Aurelia Falco Silvana Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Sad news: Funeral readings from Marcus Aurelius Antoninus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48393 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48394 From: nephelecarnal Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48395 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48396 From: C. Aurelia Falco Silvana Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Happy New Year & readings on Peace
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48397 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48398 From: mike orley Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Sad news: Funeral readings from Marcus Aurelius Antoninus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48399 From: Jibril ibn Najdah ibn Zayd al-`Attar Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48400 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48401 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Fasti Ianuarii-The traditional affirmation of the calendar by the S
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48402 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Latin Greetings & Usage ( was; Your Hidden, Roman Name)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48403 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48404 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48405 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48406 From: Thomas Vogel Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Happy New Year to all!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48407 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48408 From: Marcus Iulius Perusianus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Magna Mater Project - final report.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48409 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Request to all incoming magistrates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48410 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Magna Mater Project - final report.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48411 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: post. Kal. Ian. (a.d. IV Non. Ian.)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48412 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48413 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 04/07 - Appointment of accensi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48414 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 01/07 - Calling for governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48415 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 03/07 - Confirmation of previous edicta about Elec
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48416 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Results Comitia Populi Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48417 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: EDICTVM CONSVLARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM - 04/07
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48418 From: nephelecarnal Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48419 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office - Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48420 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48422 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: P. Memmius Albucius quaestorian oath
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48423 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Comitia results - my election
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48424 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office, Diribitor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48425 From: Lucius Cassius Cornutus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48426 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: Edictum Consular 01/07 - Calling for governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48427 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: to: all people of gens Cornelia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48428 From: Gaius Flavius Ductoris Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office, Diribitor, Gaius Flavius Ductoris
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48429 From: M·C·C· Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTVM TRIBVNALE DE CREATIONE VIATORVM
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48430 From: Gaius Flavius Ductoris Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48431 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48432 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48434 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE VII-MMDCCLX A.U.C MediaWiki
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48435 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM PRAETORIUM DE SCRIBAE CREATIONE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48436 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: a.d. III Non. Ian.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48437 From: Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48439 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM PRAETORIS GAII EQUITI CATONI
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48440 From: Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: NO SCRIBAE: Re: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSOR
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48441 From: C. Curius Saturninus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Ius Iurandum (Oath of Office) C. Curius Saturninus, Aedilis Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48442 From: Robert Marshall Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48443 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of office of Rogator Cn. Lentulus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48444 From: Francesco Valenzano Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Week-end gratuito nella Regio IV: Il SAMNIVM
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48445 From: Appius Iulius Priscus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: a.d. III Non. Ian.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48446 From: Ian McKay Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48447 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: RES: [Nova-Roma] Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48448 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48449 From: g_iulius_scaurus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Quaestorian Oath
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48450 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Withdrawal Of Two Edicts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48451 From: Gregory Rose Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: NO SCRIBAE: Re: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48452 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE VI-MMDCCLX A.U.C
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48453 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE V-MMDCCLX A.V.C. DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48454 From: Marcus Audens Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter / Pay Pal offer
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48455 From: Stefn Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48456 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48457 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Religio & Women new book
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48458 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48459 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48460 From: flavius leviticus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Aquila(Eagle)!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48461 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: prid. Non.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48462 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: NO SCRIBAE: Re: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48463 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: ATTENTION: Advices for candidates to governors and interpreters
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48464 From: Appius Iulius Priscus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48465 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48466 From: caivsmarivs Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Oath of Office - C. Marius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48467 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: EDICTUM PRAETORIS GAII EQUITI CATONI
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48468 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: a.d. III Non. Ian.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48469 From: FAC Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Week-end gratuito nella Regio IV: Il SAMNIVM
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48470 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48471 From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48472 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48473 From: Robin HL Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48474 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48475 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48476 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Fw: [Imperial Rome] New additions to Ask The Expert
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48477 From: Shoshana Hathaway Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48478 From: Quintus Iulius Probus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: oath of the office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48479 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: New poll for Nova-Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48480 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: EDICTUM CENSORIS: on the appointment of Apparitores
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48481 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48482 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48483 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: A reminder on oaths.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48484 From: A. Sempronius Regulus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48485 From: A. Sempronius Regulus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Two Queries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48486 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48487 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Two Queries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48488 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Oath of Office C. Equitius Cato (English)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48489 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48490 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48491 From: Chantal Gaudiano Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48492 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Two Queries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48493 From: Tita Artoria Marcella Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Oath of Office, revised
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48494 From: Dora Smith Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48495 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48496 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48497 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48498 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: New poll for Nova-Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48499 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: knowing about Rome
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48500 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: knowing about Rome
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48501 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: New poll for Nova-Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48502 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: to: all people of gens Cornelia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48503 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Non. Ian.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48504 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: to: all people of gens Cornelia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48505 From: Cn. Hortentius Barbatus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48506 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48507 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48508 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48509 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: New poll for Nova-Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48510 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: knowing about Rome
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48511 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Fwd: [yg-alerts] Hotmail Bouncing Issues and Groups Outage on Janua
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48512 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48513 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48514 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48515 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48516 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48517 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48518 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48519 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48520 From: Gregory Rose Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48521 From: Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Caeso Buteo absent
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48522 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Calendarius Nundinalis I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48523 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: Calendarius Nundinalis I
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48524 From: sextus_lucilius_tutor Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: My Oath
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48525 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Roman Market Day this year
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48526 From: David Kling (Modianus) Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48528 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: post. Non. Ian. (a.d. VIII Id. Ian.)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48531 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48532 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48533 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: The Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48534 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48353 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Kal. Ian.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est Kalendis Ianuariis; haec dies fastus est.

"See how Janus appears first in my song
To announce a happy year for you, Germanicus.
Two-headed Janus, source of the silently gliding year,
The only god who is able to see behind him,
Be favourable to the leaders, whose labours win
Peace for the fertile earth, peace for the seas:
Be favourable to the senate and Roman people,
And with a nod unbar the shining temples.
A prosperous day dawns: favour our thoughts and speech!
Let auspicious words be said on this auspicious day.
Let our ears be free of lawsuits then, and banish
Mad disputes now: you, malicious tongues, cease wagging!
See how the air shines with fragrant fire,
And Cilician grains crackle on lit hearths!
The flame beats brightly on the temple's gold,
And spreads a flickering light on the shrine's roof.
Spotless garments make their way to Tarpeian Heights,
And the crowd wear the colours of the festival:
Now the new rods and axes lead, new purple glows,
And the distinctive ivory chair feels fresh weight." - Ovid, Fasti I

"And after he had built the Temple of Vesta he built the Temple of
Ianus. As the God Ianus has two faces so this temple has two gates:
they stand open in time of war and are closed in time of peace. Very
seldom in later times were the gates of the Temple of Ianus shut, but
in Numa's time the gates were never seen open--no, not for a single
day: for the space of over two score years the gates were unopened." -
Padraig Colum, Orpheus: Myths of the Underworld (1937), "Numa the
Law-Giver"

"Janus also has a temple at Rome with double doors, which they call
the gates of war; for the temple always stands open in time of war,
but is closed when peace has come. The latter was a difficult matter,
and it rarely happened, since the realm was always engaged in some
war, as its increasing size brought it into collision with the
barbarous nations which encompassed it round about. But in the time of
Augustus it was closed, after he had overthrown Marc Antony; and
before that, when Marcus Atilius and Titus Manlius were consuls, it
was closed a short time; then war broke out again at once, and it was
opened." - Plutarch, Life of king Numa 20.1-2


The Kalends of January are sacred (as is in fact the entire month) to
the dual-faced god Ianus; Ianus is the god of comings and goings, of
looking to the past and anticipating the future. The god Ianus has a
distinctive appearance in art, as he is often depicted with two faces,
called "Ianus Bifrons". Some sources claim that the reason Janus was
represented in this peculiar fashion was due to the notion that doors
and gates look in two directions. In this way, one of the god's faces
could look forward, while the other looked backward.

The origins of this God vary somewhat, dependent upon the source.
One legend states that Ianus was a mortal who came from Thessaly
and was welcomed into Latium by Camese. The couple are said to have
married, shared the kingdom and had many children together, including
Tiberinus, the Tiber River-God. Upon the death of Camese, Janus
became the sole ruler and granted Saturn sanctuary when that ancient
God was fleeing from Iuppiter. As the first King of Latium, Ianus
ensured a time of peace, honesty and abundance for his people...an era
known as the Golden Age. He introduced money, cultivation of the
fields and laws. He is also said to have later married a nymph named
Iuturna, whose spring and shrine were located closed to his temple in
the Forum of Rome. One of their children was Fons (also known as
Fontus), God of Springs. It was only after his death that Ianus was
deified and became the Protector of the City.

Ianus was well-respected and highly-regarded as a god by the ancient
Romans and his dual-faced image could be found on most city gates
and many Roman coins. Given his role as Guardian of Gates, his
position as the god of Beginnings and the esteem of having the first
month of the year named in his honor, it is apparent that Janus played
a significant role in Roman myth and religion. He was invoked at the
start of each new day and often referred to as the Porter of Heaven -
the "Ianitor Coeli". He particularly presided over all that is
double-edged in life and represented the transition between the
primitive and civilization.

The temple in the Argiletum consisted of two gates; the cult statue
was between them. It was a very ancient statue; the author Pliny the
Elder mentions it as proof that the sculptor's art existed in Italy in
times most ancient (Natural History 36.58). The god was portrayed with
two bearded heads. The fingers of his hands were placed in strange
positions, which Pliny interpreted as an indication of the number 355,
which he thought was a reference to the number of days of the oldest
Roman calendar.

The temple of the Argiletum with the Gates of War was not the only
place where the Romans worshipped Ianus. On the other side of the
Tiber, an altar was dedicated to this god on the 'hill of Ianus'
(Ianiculum). A second altar was erected on the hill Oppius, which
played a role in the ceremonies when a boy became a man. The consul
Marcus Duillius built a temple on the Vegetable Market (Forum
Holitorium), after his naval victory off Mylae (260 BCE). It was
rebuilt by the emperor Tiberius. In this temple, twelve altars were
erected, dedicated to the twelve months (one of them, Ianuarius, was
perhaps called after the god). Finally, there was the Arch of the
four-faced Ianus, "Ianus Quadrifons", at the Velabrum.


Valete bene and Happy New Year!

Cato




SOURCES

Ovid, Colum, Wikipedia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48354 From: Brett Murphy Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
What would Brett Murphy translate as?



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48355 From: Shadow DarkFyre Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: The Quiet of the New Year
Monday, January 1, 2007
1:05 AM Central Standard Time
Dateline: the World

Fellow Domani, friends of Elpoepia and Nova Roma, members of Christo-Pagans Unite and Tara-Skryne, and all other friends:

In the dark and quiet of the first moments of the New Year, after the parties and drinking are done, and friends and loved ones are called, and the celebrations are over, is when I sit, quiet in the night. Just sit and listen. Close my eyes sometimes and feel fate and time weaving around, laying out paths for some, tying off for others. I always sit and hope for renewal. Hope for change. Preferably positive. Sometimes, it comes. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes in a way I don't expect.
I donnae' know about some of you, but 2007 feels like such a year of change. I personally feel a stillness, almost like a profound waiting. It scares me, but in a good way. A positive way. I think maybe in a positive way for everyone. Perhaps forever. Who knows? I choose to remain optimistic.
And so, I sit her, listening to a Nickleback song, that feels like it is heir to Lennon's "Imagine". I listen to one line:

"And as we lie beneath the stars, we realize how small we are..."

It makes me feel alone for a moment, till I think about how much a part of the whole I am. It's the chorus that drives it home:

"If everyone care, and nobody cried,...
If everyone loved, and nobody lied,...
If everyone shared, and swallowed their pride,...
Then we'd see the day when nobody died..."

I know that we all, in one way or another, hope for that day. Perhaps in this year, a start towards that day will come. I stay hopeful.
And so I sit, with the sounds of sleep in the air, and I send my words out to my fellow Domani, fellow magickfolk, and fellows among humanity. My nation's motto: "There's magick in believing..." Believe in the hope of a better day, is all I suggest and ask, and do all you can to help bring it about.
For the time being, I hope the morning finds you awake and well rested from sleep and dream, or ready to send you off to them. As is said among my people, I wish you all Good Dreaming and Blessed Be, both now and always.

Always,
-Shadow

There's magick in believing...
-The Domain and Realms
http://thedomainandrealms.batcave.net

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48356 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Omnymi (comprehensible to Yahoo)
A. Tullia Scholastica Quiritibus S.P.D.

Yahoo doesn¹t like properly written Latin today, though it seems to have
accepted it in the past, so let¹s try again...a fuller version is posted
elsewhere.



Ego, Aula Tullia Scholastica, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensuram,
et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturam esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Aula Tullia Scholastica, officio praetricis Novae Romae accepto, deos
deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturam, et
virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturam esse IVRO.

Ego, Aula Tullia Scholastica, Religioni Romanae me fauturam et eam
defensuram, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturam esse, ne quid
detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Aula Tullia Scholastica officiis muneris praetricis me quam optime
functuram esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus praetricis una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

For the benefit of the incoming curule aediles and any other women who wish
to take the Latin oath, there is a typo in the line beginning with culturam;
the file has culturum, the masculine version. This does not alter the
meaning of the text.

Valete.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48357 From: Gaius Flavius Ductoris Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: posting of magisterial oaths
Salvete Omines,

I was wondering about the posting of magisterial oaths on the
NovaRoma-Announce list. I have seen that a few have post both their
magisterial oaths and their statement of candidacy. I'm not sure about
what should be posted by citizens on the list but it does say "We
don´t recommend here the posting of magisterial oaths." on the main
page of the list. As a result of these, I have been getting multiple
emails of the same kind. I find this rather irritating as I receive
numerous emails already as Im sure most do as well. How do others feel?

Valete,

G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
Scribe Sodalitas Egressus
http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/ductoris.html

Legio I Australis
Legatus Legionis Legio I Australis
http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/legio.html

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
("If you want peace, prepare for war!")
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48358 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Post Oath to Main Forum Only Please
Salve Gaius Flavius Ductoris

Your are right and our oath's should only be posted to this list.
Most of have been sending it to the Announce list as well but as
you point out that is not required nor encouraged.

So please post your Oath here and not on the Announce list.


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48359 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: posting of magisterial oaths-Response to G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
F. Galerius Aurelianus G. Flavio Ouf. Ductoris sal.

I have been a citizen of NR for coming up on five years and it has become a
traditional practice to post magisterial oaths on the mainlist. Any
organization with a dedicated core membership is likely to develop traditions and
customs that may differ slightly from official rules. Personally, I like to see
the new magistrates post their oaths of office because an oath given in any
form means quite a lot to me on a very personal level. An oath binds one
person to another or to an organization or to a state and is a sacred formula.
There are few things that demonstrate pietas and gravitas than an oath that
is given and well kept, just as there are few actions that are more despicable
than a person who gives their oath and breaks it. When one swears an oath,
they are calling upon their God or Dii Immortales to witness a promise made
to another person or, in this case, the organization that is Nova Roma. This
is far more important than to be concerned about a few extra emails. If you
do not wish to read a magisterial oath, you can just delete it very quickly
but I do not believe that you will find a great many Nova Romans who would
wish to see the practice stopped.

Happy New Year. Vadite in pace Cereris.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48360 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Flavio Ductori quiritibus S.P.D.
>
>
>
>
> Salvete Omines,
>
> I was wondering about the posting of magisterial oaths on the
> NovaRoma-Announce list. I have seen that a few have post both their
> magisterial oaths and their statement of candidacy. I'm not sure about
> what should be posted by citizens on the list but it does say "We
> don´t recommend here the posting of magisterial oaths." on the main
> page of the list.
>
> ATS: This policy may well be changed. Some of our citizens do not
> receive the ML, and therefore do not know whether a magistrate has taken the
> oath or not. Some years ago, we had an elected aedilis who never showed up to
> take the oath. All important announcements should be duplicated on the
> Announcements list; if you find that inconvenient, set one or the other for
> read onsite.
>
>
> As a result of these, I have been getting multiple
> emails of the same kind. I find this rather irritating as I receive
> numerous emails already as Im sure most do as well.
>
> ATS: That may be a minor inconvenience, but the citizenry has the right
> to know who has taken the oath of office. All of it...those who get the ML,
> and those who do not, but get Announcements. There is also another reason for
> some of us who prefer to post the horkoi on the announcements list, one which
> should not escape you. Wait until Yahoo triplicates a message on its own, or
> someone on moderation repeats the message four or five times because it wasn¹t
> approved immediately, maybe because the moderation notice wasn¹t delivered to
> the only moderator who is awake at the time. Both are improvements over lost
> messages, however. At this time of year, you may expect a large number of
> oaths of office. You don¹t have to read them beyond the first line, to see
> who is taking the oath for what position, but the citizens deserve to see
> them, and should see them in both Latin and English, as befits this
> organization.
>
> I take it you don¹t want to be a list moderator, in which case you would
> not only get the messages, but moderation notices, and other ones at your
> option. I moderate maybe 15 lists, and it is my duty to deal with all of the
> above, as well as other matters.
>
> How do others feel?
>
> ATS: See above.
>
> Valete,
>
> G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
> Scribe Sodalitas Egressus
> http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/ductoris.html
>
> Legio I Australis
> Legatus Legionis Legio I Australis
> http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/legio.html
>
> "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
> ("If you want peace, prepare for war!")
> * Flavius Vegetius Renatus

A. Tullia Scholastica
Praetrix
Interpres linguae Latinae
Caput decuriae interpretum
Magistra sodalitatis Latinitatis
Coryphaea Sodalitatis Musarum
Arkhousa Sodalitatis Graeciae (and lots more once the senior magistrates
get imperium and can appoint their scribae...)
>
>
>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48361 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Consular oath of office
Ego, L. Arminius Faustus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et
semper pro populo senatuque
Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, L. Arminius Faustus, officio consulis interpone Novae Romae accepto,
deos deasque Romae in omnibus
meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica
privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, L. Arminius Faustus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum,
et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti
capiat IVRO.

Ego, L. Arminius Faustus, consulis officiis muneris me quam optime functurum
esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus consulis, L. Arminius Faustus una cum
iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48362 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: A face to face meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Salvete, colleague,

I understand the will of hands-on just on the first day. We should discuss
this more at lenght on the Senate, for sure. There are many �aspects� to do
and look before. And other priorities the Senate gave us more �hands-on�,
like on the last SenatusConsultum.

The Religio Romana is our priority, for sure. So, on 1 kal ianuarius the
elected consules perfomred a series os rituals. Let�s be on it today.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus CSL


2006/12/31, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus <spqr753@...>:
>
> Salvete Romans
>
> I would like to thank you for the high honor that you have bestowed
> on me and that I have now taken up as Consul of Nova Roma. I also
> wish to convey to you some of what I will endeavor to do in the
> coming weeks and months.
>
> The Senate of Nova Roma adopted a set of priorities on 31 August
> 2757. These priorities where reaffirm by Consuls Gaius Fabius Buteo
> Modianus and Pompeia Minucia Strabo by edict in 2759. My Colleague
> and I will reaffirm them as well.
>
> The first priority adopted was
>
> "The Religio Romana; it's promotion, preservation, protection, and
> diffusion throughout the communities of Nova Roma."
>
> We can not go forward with the "promotion, preservation, protection,
> and diffusion"� of the Religio Romana while the Collegium
> Pontificum and the other organs of the Religio Romana are at
> loggerheads.
>
> So in an effort to bring about reconciliation within the Collegium
> Pontificum,to study the issues required to move the Collegiums
> Pontificum forward and to advance the purpose for which Nova Roma
> was founded, I will ask the members of the Collegium Pontificum and
> the Senate of Nova Roma to facilitate a face to face meeting of the
> entire Collegium Pontificum.
>
> While some will dismiss this effort as pie in the sky and will say
> it will accomplish nothing but broken noses, I say we have to try.
> For if we do not try,we can not do and if we do not DO, why are we
> here.
>
> If the face to face meeting ends in the current deadlock we have
> lost nothing but some time and some money. But if it succeeds, even
> a little, we will have moved Nova Roma forward and will have
> something to build on.
>
> The time and place of the meeting will be determined by me in
> consultation with the members of the Collegium Pontificum.
>
> The Senate will be asked to appropriate funds for this effort and
> the expenditure of these funds will be accounted for with receipts
> and will be used for such items as rental of facilities, food,
> nominal contributions to international travel and other expenditures
> to accomplish the goals set for the meeting.
>
> Individuals attending will be responsible for their own
> transportation costs, their lodging costs and well as some costs
> toward meals.
>
> I have asked the two members of the Collegium Pontificum, Marcus
> Antonius Gryllus Graecus and Gnaeus Salvius Astur, who live outside
> the United States and who have the longest distance to travel, if
> they would commit to attending the meeting. I await their response
> to my letter send by email.
>
> What I need from each of you is for you to talk to your friends in
> the Collegium Pontificum and in a positive way encourage them to
> attend. 2760 is the tenth year of the founding of Nova Roma and as
> far as I know the Collegium Pontificum has never had a face to face
> meeting set up solely for that purpose.
>
> I believe it is long over due. I hope you agree.
>
> I also ask that we make our tenth year our best year and that you
> bless with your prayers the Religious officials, the magistrates and
> all Nova Romans that we may work together in Concordia.
>
> Valete
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Consul
>
>
>



--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48363 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Advices for magistrates
Salvete created magistrates,

Please, I know everyone is filled with joy (and job) by coming into
the magistratures. However, I recall kal ianuaries is a a day for
prayers ans rituals of entering office.

Please, let 2 kal for starting making official comunications and
politics. I urge you all official comunication be done throught
edictum.

I new also urge the others to observe the fasces changing of months.
On ianuarius, roman uses allowed the fasces for the Senior. So, avoid
unnecessary attrition between your colleagues by naivette.

I advice you to have a close agreement with your colleagues before
making any statement on main list.

--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus CSL

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48364 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Fasti Ianuarii
Salvete,

This calendar is valid for 2006 as well?

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus CSL

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Caecilius Metellus"
<metellus@...> wrote:
>
> Q. Metellus Quiritibus sal.
>
> For the month of January:
>
> 1 Kal. Ian. A F
> 2 a.d. IV Non. Ian. B F Ater
> 3 a.d. III Non. Ian. C F Nundina
> 4 pr. Non. Ian. D C
> 5 Non. Ian. E F
> 6 a.d. VIII Id. Ian. F F Ater
> 7 a.d. VII Id. Ian. G C
> 8 a.d. VI Id. Ian. H C
> 9 a.d. V Id. Ian. A NP Agonium/-ia/-alia*
> 10 a.d. IV Id. Ian. B EN
> 11 a.d. III Id. Ian. C NP Carmentalia (Nun.)
> 12 pr. Id. Ian. D C
> 13 Id. Ian. E NP
> 14 a.d. XIX Kal. Feb. F EN Ater
> 15 a.d. XVIII Kal. Feb. G NP Carmentalia
> 16 a.d. XVII Kal. Feb. H C
> 17 a.d. XVI Kal. Feb. A C
> 18 a.d. XV Kal. Feb. B C
> 19 a.d. XIV Kal. Feb. C F Nun.
> 20 a.d. XIII Kal. Feb. D C
> 21 a.d. XII Kal. Feb. E C
> 22 a.d. XI Kal. Feb. F C
> 23 a.d. X Kal. Feb. G C
> 24 a.d. IX Kal. Feb. H C
> 25 a.d. VIII Kal. Feb. A C
> 26 a.d. VII Kal. Feb. B C
> 27 a.d. VI Kal. Feb. C F Nun.
> 28 a.d. V Kal. Feb. D C
> 29 a.d. IV Kal. Feb. E C
> 30 a.d. III Kal. Feb. F C
> 31 pr. Kal. Feb. G C
>
> Note: This is not the official calendar. A vote to confirm the
official
> calendar has been called by the Collegium Pontificum, and the
results
> shall be posted within the next two weeks. In the calendar above,
the
> Lex Hortensia is observed, with nundinae falling on the C nundinal
letter.
>
> *For discussion on the name of this day, see Scullard, H.H.
_Festivals
> and Ceremonies of the Roman Republic_. c1981, Thames and Hudson. p.
> 60-61, among others.
>
> As always, I'm happy to answer any questions, hear any comments,
address
> any concerns, etc., you may have. I can be reached via phone or
email
> (metellus 'at' cinci 'dot' rr 'dot' com). If phone is your
preference,
> please write me and we can work out a time good for both of us.
>
> Optime Valete et Felicem Annum Novum,
>
> Quintus Caecilius Metellus,
> Pontifex
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48365 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Cerimony of the first day of consulship
Lucius Arminius Faustus S.P.D.

There is a constant rain ouside, and I searched a cover. The blessing
of the rain means the purification, according the roman uses. I recall
the rain and fog prevented Hannibal to lay siege of Rome, and accept
this as a signal of gods endless protection. So, I urge the gods
accept this ritual on the first day of ianuarius, according the use of
my predecessor, according he used for previous consules

"[The text of this ritual is the same as the text used by Gn. Salvius
Astur on January 1st, 2004. I hope future consuls will continue this
tradition].." - K. F. B. Modianus, consular

I ask the Gods for a successful consulship for myself, and for my
colleague. So, after on my lararium performing the prayers for the
domestic gods (since no auspice public and be taken by a man without
private auspices) I make this:

Praefatio

Iane pater, te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae. [Father Ianus,
by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may
be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.] Incense
is placed in the focus of the altar.

Mars pater, te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae. [Father Mars,
by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may
be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.] Incense
is placed in the focus of the altar.

Quirine pater, te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae. [Father
Quirinus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that
you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]
Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.

Iane pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto. [Father Ianus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the
sake of this be honored by this humble wine.] Libation of wine is
made.

Mars pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto. [Father Mars, as by offering
to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of
this be honored by this humble wine.] Libation of wine is made.

Quirine pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto. [Father Quirinus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the
sake of this be honored by this humble wine.] Libation of wine is
made.

Hands are washed in preparation for the praecatio.

Precatio

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, qui res publicas Novas Romanas
nunc custodit defenditque perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum
Romanorum custodivit defenditque, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore
initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda
esto. [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, who protects and
defends the public affairs of Nova Roma just as he protected and
defended the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper
for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake
of this thing may you be honored by this feast offering]. Libation of
wine is made.

Iuno, regina Deorum, qui materne nunc Senatum Populumque Novae Romae
nutrit perinde ac Senatum Populumque Romanum in tempore partum
nostrorum nutrivit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam
vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto. [Iuno, queen
of the Gods, who maternally nurtures the Senate and People of Nova
Roma just as she nurtured the Senate and People of Rome in the time of
our fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this
time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honored by
this feast offering]. Libation of wine is made.

Minerva, sapientia aeterna, qui recte res publicas Novas Romanas ducit
perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum duxit, tibi fieri
oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac
illace dape pullucenda esto. [Minerva, eternal wisdom, who rightly
guides the public affairs of Nova Roma just as she rightly guided the
public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of
wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing
may you be honored by this feast offering]. Libation of wine is made.

Salus, benefactrix Senatus Populique Romani et fideiussorix salutis
nostrae, qui Novam Romam conservat perinde ac Romam antiquam
conservavit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini
dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto. [Salus,
benefactor of the Roman Senate and People and guarantor of our
well-being, who preserves Nova Roma just as she preserved ancient
Rome, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time
of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honored by this
feast offering]. Libation of wine is made.

Hands are washed in preparation for the redditio.

Redditio

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto,
macte vino inferio esto. [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the
Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honored
by the humble wine.] Libation of wine is made, and an offering of cake
is made.

Iuno, regina Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino
inferio esto. [Iuno, queen of the Gods, may you be honored by this
feast offering, may you be honored by the humble wine.] Libation of
wine is made, and an offering of cake is made.

Minerva, sapientia aeterna, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte
vino inferio esto. [Minerva, eternal wisdom, may you be honored by
this feast offering, may you be honored by the humble wine.] Libation
of wine is made, and an offering of cake is made.

Salus, benefactrix Novae Romae, macte istace dape pollucenda esto,
macte vino inferio esto. [Salus, benefactrix of Nova Roma, may you be
honored by this feast offering, may you be honored by the humble
wine.] Libation of wine is made, and an offering of cake is made.

Quirine pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto. [Father Quirinus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the
sake of this be honored by this humble wine.] Libation of wine is
made.

Mars pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto. [Father Mars, as by offering
to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of
this be honored by this humble wine.] Libation of wine is made.

Iane pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto. [Father Ianus, as by
offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the
sake of this be honored by this humble wine.] Libation of wine is
made.

Dea Vesta, custos ignis sacri, macte vino inferio esto. [Goddess
Vesta, guardian of the sacred fire, be honoured by this humble wine.]
Libation of wine is made.

Illicet. [It is over.]

At this time I profaned some of the cakes and consumed it. I then made
some personal devotions, and then I reaffirmed my oath of office that
I had taken a few hours before (which I posted to the Nova Roma main
list).

Piaculum

I concluded with a piaculum to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno,
Miverva, and Salus in the event I might have done anything during the
ceremony that might be displeasing to the Immortals.

Iuppiter Optime Maxmime, Iuno, Minerva et Salus, Di Immortales, si
quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc vino inferio veniam
peto et vitium meum expio. [Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Minerva,
and Salus, Immortal Gods, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing
to you, with this humble wine I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.]
Libation of wine is made.


May the Immortal Gods of Rome bless the citizens and future Citizens
of Nova Roma.

VAKETE BENE IN PACEM DEORUM,
Lucius Arminius Faustus
Consul



"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48366 From: David Kling (Modianus) Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Cerimony of the first day of consulship
Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Arminio Fausto salutem dicit

It is encouraging to see this tradition continued. Let us pray that with
every year the Consuls continue this practice.

Vale:

Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus

On 1/1/07, Lucius Arminius Faustus <lafaustus@...> wrote:
>
> Lucius Arminius Faustus S.P.D.
>
> There is a constant rain ouside, and I searched a cover. The blessing
> of the rain means the purification, according the roman uses. I recall
> the rain and fog prevented Hannibal to lay siege of Rome, and accept
> this as a signal of gods endless protection. So, I urge the gods
> accept this ritual on the first day of ianuarius, according the use of
> my predecessor, according he used for previous consules
>
> "[The text of this ritual is the same as the text used by Gn. Salvius
> Astur on January 1st, 2004. I hope future consuls will continue this
> tradition].." - K. F. B. Modianus, consular
>
> I ask the Gods for a successful consulship for myself, and for my
> colleague. So, after on my lararium performing the prayers for the
> domestic gods (since no auspice public and be taken by a man without
> private auspices) I make this:
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48367 From: David Kling (Modianus) Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Lex Curiata de Imperio
Lex Curiata de Imperio

We, the Lictors of the Comita Curiata of Nova Roma, recognize and
accept the results of the elections in the Comitia Centuriata for
consules and praetores, and the election in the Comitia Populi Tributa
for aediles curules. By this lex de imperio we confer imperium as
defined in the Lex Arminia Equitia de Imperio upon these magistrates.

Consules: Lucius Arminius Faustus and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

Praetores: Aula Tullia Scholastica and Gaius Equitius Cato

Aediles Curules: Tita Artoria Marcelia and Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege

This lex de imperio shall become effective on Kal. Ian. MMDCCLX a.u.c.
(1 Jan 2007 CE) and shall remain in effect until pridie Kal. Ian
MMDCCLX a.u.c. (31 Dec 2007 CE).

Given under our hands pridie Kal. Ian. MMDCCLVIX a.u.c. (31 Dec 2006 CE)

Gaius Popillius Laenas
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48368 From: Lucius Cassius Cornutus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: New Year's Ritual for Ianus
NEW YEAR'S RITUAL FOR IANUS

PRAEPARATIO:
In preparation for the rite, I woke before sunrise and I cleaned and
incensed my shrine to Ianus. The weather was wet, and a rain fell, but
it was peaceful. The altar surface was washed down with vervain and
water, and then wrapped three times with woolen fillets. Next, I
bathed in preparation, then garbed in toga, capite velato I offered to
my lares and lit the focus with prayers and offerings to Mother Vesta.


PRAEFATIO:
- Salutatio: "Janus, Come! The New Year is here, come and renew the
sun." (Ausonius 3.5)

- Silentium: "Procul, O procul, este profane!"

I then perform a final cleansing, aspersing area and washing my hands:
"Haec aqua a corpore impuritates eluat, ut pluvial aera purgat."

- Invocatio of Testori:
"To Jove and the Gods I deservedly give great thanks. Jove Supreme,
look down and preserve us, I do beseech you by your good genius. Come
forth! We wish for you."

"Iuppiter Best and Greatest and Gods Immortal, by offering this
incense to you I pray good prayers, that you will look kindly and
favorably upon me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma"
Placed incense in focus.

"Iuppiter Best and Greatest and Gods Immortal, in addition to my
virtuous offering of incense, be honored by this offering of wine in
libation and look kindly and favorably upon me and the Senate and
People of Nova Roma."
Libation is poured to the Gods.


SACRIFICATIO:
Hands are washed again.
"Hear me Father Janus, who was before all the Gods, from whom all
things proceed, graciously lend your ears to my prayers, on this, the
Kalends of January. Father Janus, by whatever name pleases you most,
attend and bless the Senate and People of Nova Roma, and with a nod
open Your gleaming gates onto peaceful precincts."

Offer incense:
"Father Janus, by offering this incense to You I pray good prayers,
that you will look kindly and favorably upon me and the Senate and
People of Nova Roma."




Offer Libation:
"Father Janus, in addition to my virtuous offering of incense, be
honored by this offering of wine in libation and look kindly and
favorably upon me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma."

- Praecatio:
"Father Janus, to You it is proper for offerings to be given in this
time of beginning. On this the 1st day of January, accept these
offerings of Frankincense, Libum cakes, honey and wine and bless the
entire nation of Nova Roma. Janus, may You be pleased by these
offerings and may the Senate and People of Nova Roma have what is
goodly, auspicious, fruitful, fortunate, and wholesome."

Offer Incense:
"Father Janus, I offer You this Frankincense, so that You may be
increased and so that You may look kindly and favorably upon me and
the Senate and People of Nova Roma."

Offer Libum Cakes:
"Father Janus, to You I pray good prayers, offering You this pile of
cakes, so that you might willing be favorable to me and the Senate and
People of Nova Roma."

Offer honey:
"Father Janus, I offer You this honey, so that You may be increased
and so that You may look kindly and favorably upon me and the Senate
and People of Nova Roma."

Offer wine:
"Father Janus, for the same reasons given in the good prayers while
offering You incense, piled cakes and honey, may You accept and be
honored by this portion of wine I pour."

"Father Janus, may the Senate and People of Nova Roma have what is
goodly, auspicious, fruitful, fortunate and wholesome. For these
reasons have I this day offered these sacrifices to you, Janus, God of
good beginnings."


LITATIO:
"To Jove and the Gods Immortal I deservedly give great thanks for
attending and bearing witness to my rite."
I offer incense and Libation.

"Mother Vesta, I thank You with this offering of incense and libation."

"No more, Gods on high, do I ask of You today; it is enough."







PIACULUM:
"Gods Immortal, if anything I have done in this ceremony has been
incorrect, incomplete or otherwise displeasing to You, I ask
forgiveness with this offering of incense."

"Gods Immortal, if anything I have done in this ceremony has been
incorrect, incomplete or otherwise displeasing to You, I ask
forgiveness with this portion of wine I pour."


PERLITATIO:
I observe any signs ritual offerings were accepted.
I received favorable signs.





Valete and Happy New Year!
Lucius Cassius Cornutus
Sacerdos Iani
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48369 From: Lucius Cassius Cornutus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: IANUS
Father Janus is one of the oldest Roman Gods. He is the God of
beginnings, gates and doorways and also is seen in some cases as God
of creation. As beginner of all things and all acts he would be
offered to first in a ritual that called in a group of deities. Cicero
wrote, "In all matters, beginnings and ends are the vital features.
This is why they cite Janus first in the sacrifices. (Nat Deor. II
67)" Janus says to Ovid in the Fasti that He is recited first in all
prayers so that "through Me, the Doorkeeper, you may attain access to
whatever Gods you please (Fasti I.173-4).

Janus has many titles – Geminus (the seminal seed), Patulcius (the
opener), Clusius (vault of heaven), Matutinus (the dawning light),
Junonius (associated with Juno on the Kalends), and Consivius (the
beginner of life).

Father Janus is often shown with two faces, one looking forward – the
other backward. Ovid explains Janus' biform is because he is Guardian
of every household's front doorway, with one face directed outward
that "views the people", and one face that looks inward towards the
Lar Familiaris of the family's shrine. Ovid also draws the connection
of doorkeeper with the dawning sun, calling Him "the ianitor of the
celestial court. (Who) observes the east and the west together (Fasti
I. 135-40). When the calendar was changed making January the beginning
of the New Year, the month was named for Janus and January 1st was
dedicated to him. There is a festival on the Agonalia in January when
the Rex Sacrorum would sacrifice a Ram to Janus. There is also the
17th of August where people offer keys to His fire to bless their homes.

The oldest temple in the Forum Holitorium in Rome was the Temple of
Janus built in 260 B.C.E. by Gaius Duilius, dedicated on August 17th
(the Portunalia). But the most important shrine of Janus in Rome was
the Temple of Janus Geminus, which was possibly a double bridge that
brought the Sacra Via over the Cloaca to the Comitium. This structure
had doors at each end, which could be closed. The temple's foundation
is connected with Numa Pompilius and was associated with war and peace
in Rome. When Rome was at peace the doors were shut, but when the
Romans were at war the doors were left open so Janus could come to
their aid if needed because during the war with Titus Tatius a flood
of scalding water gushed forth from the temple pushing the enemy back.
When the basilica was built in 179 B.C.E. the shrine was moved and
apparently rebuilt not as a double bridge, but a smaller structure
depicted on the back of some coins of Nero, shown with doors shut
signifying peace. In Domitian's time it was moved again to the Forum
of Nerva where he replaced the small rectangular structure (ianus)
with an image of Janus Quadrifrons (with four faces).

Father Janus is worshipped ritus Romanus and some offerings to Him
include a ram (on the Agonalia), incense, wine and cakes.

Valete,
Lucius Cassius Cornutus
Sacerdos Iani
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48370 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office (Latin), Gaius Equitius Cato
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Ego, Gaius Equitius Cato, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum,
et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Equitius Cato, officio praetoris Novae Romae accepto, deos
deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et
virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Equitius Cato, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam
defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse,
ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Equitius Cato, praetoris officiis muneris me quam
optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus praetoris una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

Valete bene,

Gaius Equitius Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48371 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Office of C. Equitius Cato
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

As I promised during the election campaign, the workings of my
praetorian office will be fully viewable by the citizens of the
Republic (although only members of my cohors and various other guests
may actually post there).

Here is the link to it:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/officivm-c-eqvti-catonis-praetoris

It is absolutely vital to me that the workings of my office be open
and available to the whole citizenry; in turn, I ask that members of
my cohors and others use this avenue of communication with me rather
than private email for the very same reason. There will, of course,
be exceptions, but those will only prove the "rule", as it were.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48372 From: M·CVR·COMPLVTENSIS Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: REPORT OF SENATE SESSION: ITEM II (CORRECTED)
Salvete omnes

I must request your pardon: in the count of Senators votings that I did for Item II there is an involuntary mistake since I did not enter one UTI ROGAS and I changed one ABSTINEO by one ANTIQUO.

Therefore the results are:

Results of Item II: Uti Rogas, 13; Antiquo, 12; Abstineo, 2. = THE ITEM II IS PASSED



Valete bene



M·CVRIATIVS·COMPLVTENSIS
TRIBVNVS PLEBIS
NOVA ROMA








Copy-paste of the votations:

ITEM II: OFFICIAL BOUNDARIES OF CANADA ORIENTALIS AND CANADA OCCIDENTALIS
PROVINCIAE



1.. [FAC] ANTIQVO: It is not necessary, this kind of organizational aspects should be in the hands of the governors passing not for the Senatus.
2.. [LAF] ANTIQVO
3.. [MBA] ANTIQVO - Internal bounderies are the responsibilty of the governor
4.. [ECF] VTI ROGAS
5.. [CCS] VTI ROGAS: An extraordinary decision for Senate to take, but provinces are requesting this decision and I see no reason to say no.
6.. [GEM] VTI ROGAS -- I understand the need for the Senate to define the boundaries of these two provinces due to ongoing changes in the geography of the Northwest Passage. I remain skeptical of the advisability of the Senate defining the interior regions of any province, and I recommend that the Senate revisit this issue next year after consultation with the two Canadian governors. I hope that at that time the authority for defining interior regions will be returned to the two Canadian governors.
7.. [LECA] ANTIQVO: I agree with Octavius
8.. [GFBM] VTI ROGAS
9.. [CFBQ] VTI ROGAS
10.. [QFM] ANTIQVO The Provincial Praetors have the Imperium to divide their provinces as they see fit to administer. They need not come to the Senate for confirmation. The Senate does not want to revisit every minor province boundary redivision each time it happens. That's not our job.
11.. [CFD] ANTIQVO: Each governor may organize his/her province by his own discretion. This contains both the organization of his provicial staff and the territorial layout inside the provinical boundaries. It isn´t necessary to get a Snatus Consultum about this.
12.. [TGP] ANTIQUO (No) I agree that the overall boundaries of our provinces should to be set by the Senate. However internal organization needs to be left to the Praetors, etc to deal with. They are the "boots on the ground" and I believe we should defer internal organization to them.
13.. [AMA] VTI ROGAS
14.. [MMPH] VTI ROGAS
15.. [MIP] ANTIQVO
16.. [DIPI] ABSTINEO
17.. [LMS] ANTIQVO
18.. [MMA] VTI ROGAS: While I agree that Regio boundaries within a Provinces are the matter of the Provincial Staff normally, the present Consuls have asked the Senate for assistance in this particular situation and gives their reasoning for such a request. I believe that the Senate can and should respond to requests for assistance of this kind, if the assistance asked for can smooth the way for decision making in and for the provinces which are the life-blood of Nova Roma.
19.. [PMS] VTI ROGAS
20.. [MOG] ANTIQUO. The Senate shouldn't define internal organisation of a province - and one of those region names doesn't sound even remotely Roman
21.. [TOPA] VTI ROGAS
22.. [GPL] VTI ROGAS
23.. [GSA] ABSTINEO
24.. [JSM] ANTIQVO: Antiquo. I too believe that it is needless for the Senate to micromanage or usurp the powers delegated to provincial magistrates.
25.. [LSA] UTI ROGAS -- I see nothing wrong with the Senate ratifying a plan that has been agreed upon by the magistrates involved.
26.. [QSP] VTI ROGAS
27.. [ATMC] ANTIQVO: This is within the jurisdiction of the provincial magistrates.








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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48373 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Salvete to civii novaroma_europe

there are 50 people listed as part of the novaroma_europe list and yet
there was only 1 post all of last year and less then 25 posts the year
brefore, if anyone from europe could tell me whats going on.?
I beening trying to find out if anyone in europe would want to come to
a trade fare in the summer and or if they would be willing to run one
for the temple Mercurius in europe . is there aother list for europe ?
as I know of novaromi going to europe this next few months and they
have asked me to find out how to talk with the europe lists of novaroma.
vale
Sacerdos Templi Mercurius
Primus Sacerdotus Provincia America Boreoccidentalis

House Priest Patrician Gens Cornelia
Marcus Cornelius Felix
magewuffa@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48374 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Happy New Year to all!
Salvete,
I wish all Nova Romans good health and happiness in 2007!

And sorry for being quiet this month. I've broken my right elbow (and I'm right handed) so typing lefty or just sitting by the computer with a cast from my fingertips to my shoulder is uncomfortable. I'll be back in fighting force eventually :-)
Valete,
Diana

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48375 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Prayer for The New Year of Nova Roma on Kal. Ian. 2760 AUC
CN. CORNELIVS LENTVLVS PROPR. & ROGAT. CAND. & SACERDOS PANN. QVIRITIBVS SALVTEM:




I would like to wish you, Quirites, a prosperous and happy new year with this Latin prayer and sacrifice - conducted on the 1st of Jan. 2760 AUC by me as Provincial Sacerdos and Propraetor of Pannonia, for my province and for our Republic and for you, the People of Nova Roma.



This sacrifice was conducted before my home-altar:

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SACRIFICIVM KALENDARVM IANVARIARVM ANNI MMDCCLX AVC

- INVOCATIO of all the gods:

Iane,
Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva,
Quirine, Venus, Vesta, Mercuri, Fortuna!
Penates, Lares,
di Novensiles, dique Indigetes,
omnes divi quocumque nomine,
quorum est potestas nostrum hostiumque,
dique Manes!

- GRATVLATIO to all the gods:

Vos quaeso precorque,
uti vos thure et vino et sue dato praeteriti proxime anni Kalendis Ianuariis
bonis precibus bene precatus sum,
quibusque uti votis meriti satisfecistis:
earundem rerum ergo propterque omnia in praeterito proxime anno alia
mihi, domo, familiae data beneficia
macte his thuris granis sacrificandis estote fitote volentes propitii!

# After these words incense was sacrificied. #

- PRECATIO of all the gods:

Quarum rerum ergo, quodque melius siet
renascenti Populo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae
in hodie incepto novo anno:
vobis sacrum fiat:

Vos precor, veneror, veniam peto feroque,
uti Res Nostra, Res Romae reficiundae,
regignundi ac renascentis Populi Romani Quiritium,
Reique Publicae Populi Romani Quiritium renaturae
semper crescat, convalescat, continenter extendatur, augeatur;
fiantque multo plures Novi Romani Quirites;
motusque et consociatio ad Rem Romanam reficiundam instituatur;
utique Res Publica - ut dicta - Populi Novi Romani Quiritium semper floreat;
utique Provincia Pannonia - ut dicta -, cuius propraetor sum, crescat,
multosque cives habeat;
utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae
omnes in hodie incepto novo anno eventus bonos faustosque esse siritis;
utique sitis volentes propitii Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Provinciaeque Pannoniae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
novis magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebei Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
rogatoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae!

- INVOCATIO & PRECATIO of the single gods:

Iuppiter Optime Maxime,
earundem rerum ergo te precor quaesoque,
uti sies volens propitius Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Provinciaeque Pannoniae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
novis magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebei Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
rogatoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae!

Quirine, Dea Roma, Venus Genetrix, Mars,
Penates, Lares, Manes maiorum nostrum,
omnes di quocumque nomine, qui Romam favetis favebatis,
earundem rerum ergo vos precor quaesoque,
uti fiant multo plures Novi Romani Quirites;
utique ex societate Novae Romae verus motus et consociatio fieri possit,
ex qua Populus Romanus Quiritium
Resque Publica Populi Romani Quiritium renascatur;
utique Novae Romae Societas Pannonia in Hungaria magni momenti fiat!

Deae Iuno et Vesta,
earundem rerum ergo vos precor quaesoque,
uti domos familiasque Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
domum familiamque meam protegatis, curetis, custodiatis;
utique domos familiasque Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
domum familiamque meam ab omnibus malis conservetis!

- SACRIFICIUM COMMVNE

Sicut verba nuncupavi, quae ita faxitis, uti ego me sentio dicere:
harum rerum ergo macte
hoc vino libando,
hoc sue immolando,
his thuris granis sacrificandis
estote fitote in hodie incepto novo anno volentes propitii
renascenti Populo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae!

# After these words a glass of wine,
a piece of swine-meat
and incense were sacrificied.#


ILICET!
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Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48376 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
SALVE !

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wuffa2001" <magewuffa@...> wrote:
> there are 50 people listed as part of the novaroma_europe list and
yet there was only 1 post all of last year and less then 25 posts
the year brefore, if anyone from europe could tell me whats going
on.?>>>

I tried to join but it seems that the owner is not active.

> I beening trying to find out if anyone in europe would want to
come to a trade fare in the summer and or if they would be willing
to run one for the temple Mercurius in europe . is there aother list
for europe ?>>>

I guess, we are all here, to ML and in provincial lists. Do you want
to join in the Dacia group ?

> as I know of novaromi going to europe this next few months and
they have asked me to find out how to talk with the europe lists of
novaroma.>>>

They can talk with each province propraetor anytime.

VALE BENE,
IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48377 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
Salve IVL SABINVS!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Titus Iulius Sabinus"
<iulius_sabinus@...> wrote:
>
> SALVE !
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wuffa2001" <magewuffa@> wrote:
> > there are 50 people listed as part of the novaroma_europe list and
> yet there was only 1 post all of last year and less then 25 posts
> the year brefore, if anyone from europe could tell me whats going
> on.?>>>
>
> I tried to join but it seems that the owner is not active.
>
> > I beening trying to find out if anyone in europe would want to
> come to a trade fare in the summer and or if they would be willing
> to run one for the temple Mercurius in europe . is there aother list
> for europe ?>>>
>
> I guess, we are all here, to ML and in provincial lists. Do you want
> to join in the Dacia group ?

M.C.felix replys: I would love to join the Dacia group ,as It looks
like the best run group in novaroma.
vale



>
> > as I know of novaromi going to europe this next few months and
> they have asked me to find out how to talk with the europe lists of
> novaroma.>>>
>
> They can talk with each province propraetor anytime.
>
> VALE BENE,
> IVL SABINVS
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48378 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
SALVE !

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wuffa2001" <magewuffa@...> wrote:
> M.C.felix replys: I would love to join the Dacia group ,as It looks
> like the best run group in novaroma.

Done.Thank you for your kind words.

VALE BENE,
IVL SABINVS
Caput Trium Daciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48379 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office
Quinti Caecili Metelli iusiurandum ad Senatum Populumque Romanum
Kalendis Ianuariis L. Arminio Ti. Galerio coss. dictum.

I, Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus (Lester A. Jones), do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius
Postumianus (Lester A. Jones) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of
Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public
and private life.

I, Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus (Lester A. Jones). swear
to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova
Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as
the State Religion.

I, Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus (Lester A. Jones), swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus (Lester A. Jones),
further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the
office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48380 From: Tita Artoria Marcella Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of office --Tita Artoria Marcella
Ego, Tita Artoria Marcella, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensuram,
et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturam esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Tita Artoria Marcella, officio curulis aedilis Novae Romae accepto, deos
deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturam, et
virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturam esse IVRO.

Ego, Tita Artoria Marcella, Religioni Romanae me fauturam et eam
defensuram, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturam esse, ne quid
detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Tita Artoria Marcella, officiis muneris curulis aedilis me quam optime
functuram esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus curulis aedilis una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

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I, Tita Artoria Marcella, do solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma and to act always in the best interests of the people and senate of Nova Roma.

As a Curule Aedile of Nova Roma, I, Tita Artoria Marcella, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tita Artoria Marcella, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tita Artoria Marcella, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tita Artoria Marcella, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Curule Aedile to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people, and by their will and favor, I accept the
position of Curule Aedile and all the rights, privileges, obligations and
responsibilities attendant hereto.

Valete bene,
T. Artoria Marcella
.







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48381 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Happy New Year to all
P. Memmius Albucius omnibus

A few words from Gallia and its provincial government to wish every
novaroman citizen and every senator, magistrate, sacerdos and officers
a happy new year !!!

I hope that 2760 auc will help us carry on romanitas.

Optime valete omnes !


Publius Memmius Albucius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48382 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Fasti Ianuarii
Q. Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem.

As decreed by the Collegium Pontificum, the calendar for this month of
January shall be as follows:

Kal. Ian., Fastus
a.d. IV Non. Ian., Fastus
a.d. III Non. Ian., Comitialis
pr. Non. Ian., Comitialis
Non. Ian., Fastus
a.d. VIII Id. Ian. Fastus
a.d. VII Id. Ian., Comitialis
a.d. VI Id. Ian., Comitialis
a.d. V Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
a.d. IV Id. Ian., Endotercisus
a.d. III Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
pr. Id. Ian., Comitialis
Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
a.d. XIX Kal. Feb., Fastus Nundinalis
a.d. XVIII Kal. Feb., Nefastus Publicus
a.d. XVII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. XVI Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. XV Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. XIV Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. XIII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. XII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. XI Kal. Feb., Fastus Nundinalis
a.d. X Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. IX Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. VIII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. VII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. VI Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. V Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. IV Kal. Feb., Comitialis
a.d. III Kal. Feb., Fastus Nundinalis
pr. Kal. Feb., Comitialis

(A day marked "Fastus Nundinalis" is one whose character is fastus due
to its falling on a nundina.)

Per the decretum which was issued in the middle of last year by the
Collegium Pontificum, the nundinal letter for this year is "F", by which
the first nundina of this year will be 06 Ian. (a.d. VIII Id. Ian.).

For more information on the character of the days, please reference
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Responsum_Pontificum_de_Diebus_%28Nova_Roma%29
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Roman_Calendar
or, as always, you can send a private message to me.

Optime Valete in Pace Deorum,

QVINTVS·CAECILIVS·L·F·SAB·METELLVS·POSTVMIANVS
PONTIFEX
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48383 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: yahoo group list novaroma_europe whats going on?
P. Memmius Albucius Marco Cornelio Felici s.d.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "wuffa2001" <magewuffa@...> wrote:

> I would love to join the Dacia group, as It looks like the best run
group in novaroma.

"Lollum" ! ;-)

I do not know what is the "best" group in NR and how can a group may
be defined as "best"... But it is sure that Dacia's team is a very
efficient one.

The most complete way to proceed, imho, is to send a triple
communication concerning your event, dear Cornelie : first to the
novaromaeurope@yahoogroups.com, which is pretty active since mid-
december ; second, you could write to every European governors ;
third, do not forget giving information to the curule aediles (their
duty is to watch over our NR markets ; third, in order to be careful,
to send a message in this main list.

Vale and happy new year Cornelie,

P. Memmius Albucius
Propr. Galliae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48384 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Fasti Ianuarii
Salvete, excellent Pontifex! (if the vocative is correct)

My deepest thanks, I wasn´t able to find the link.
Could you advance the calendar for february as well, just for planning?

Vale bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus CSL


2007/1/1, Q. Caecilius Metellus <postumianus@...>:
>
> Q. Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem.
>
> As decreed by the Collegium Pontificum, the calendar for this month of
> January shall be as follows:
>
> Kal. Ian., Fastus
> a.d. IV Non. Ian., Fastus
> a.d. III Non. Ian., Comitialis
> pr. Non. Ian., Comitialis
> Non. Ian., Fastus
> a.d. VIII Id. Ian. Fastus
> a.d. VII Id. Ian., Comitialis
> a.d. VI Id. Ian., Comitialis
> a.d. V Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
> a.d. IV Id. Ian., Endotercisus
> a.d. III Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
> pr. Id. Ian., Comitialis
> Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
> a.d. XIX Kal. Feb., Fastus Nundinalis
> a.d. XVIII Kal. Feb., Nefastus Publicus
> a.d. XVII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. XVI Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. XV Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. XIV Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. XIII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. XII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. XI Kal. Feb., Fastus Nundinalis
> a.d. X Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. IX Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. VIII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. VII Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. VI Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. V Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. IV Kal. Feb., Comitialis
> a.d. III Kal. Feb., Fastus Nundinalis
> pr. Kal. Feb., Comitialis
>
> (A day marked "Fastus Nundinalis" is one whose character is fastus due
> to its falling on a nundina.)
>
> Per the decretum which was issued in the middle of last year by the
> Collegium Pontificum, the nundinal letter for this year is "F", by which
> the first nundina of this year will be 06 Ian. (a.d. VIII Id. Ian.).
>
> For more information on the character of the days, please reference
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Responsum_Pontificum_de_Diebus_%28Nova_Roma%29
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Roman_Calendar
> or, as always, you can send a private message to me.
>
> Optime Valete in Pace Deorum,
>
> QVINTVS·CAECILIVS·L·F·SAB·METELLVS·POSTVMIANVS
> PONTIFEX
>
>
>



--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48385 From: Tita Artoria Marcella Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Fasti Ianuarii
Arminius Faustus scripsit:

>Could you advance the calendar for february as well, just for planning?

For myself, I would like the calendar for March, for the same reason.

T. Artoria Marcella


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48386 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office
I, Marcus Octavius Gracchus (Matt Hucke), do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Octavius Gracchus (Matt Hucke)
swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Octavius Gracchus (Matt Hucke). swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma
and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as
the State Religion.

I, Marcus Octavius Gracchus (Matt Hucke), swear
to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Octavius Gracchus (Matt Hucke), further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Magister Aranearius to the best of my abilities.

On my honour as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour, do I
accept the position of Magister Aranearius and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

--
Marcus Octavius Gracchus
octavius@... * http://www.graveyards.com

-"Apes don't read philosophy."
-"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it! Let me correct
you on a few things: Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of
Buddhism is not 'every man for himself'. And the London Underground is
not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up."
-from "A Fish Called Wanda"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48387 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
M. Hortensia Quiritibus spd;
Concordia actually has reigned without unecessary rites or
unnatural fear of the gods!

I for one determined to do something positive for Nova Roma. So
with the help of Pontifex Astur, Senatrix Emilia Curia Finnica,
Consul-Elect Faustus, C. Curius Saturninus and our great Latinist
Avitus - we were able to produce another podcast of Vox Romana in
time for Saturnalia.
If we argue less, do more, the gods will only be pleased!We
have a lot of great active citizens, let's honour their
contributions.
bene valete in pacem deorum
M. Hortensia Maior
producer Vox Romana podcast
http://www.insulaumbra.com/voxromana/


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Rose" <gregory.rose@...>
wrote:
>
> . I more fear
> offending the Di Immortales and triggering a new round of piacula
by
> failing to perform the required expiations than violating the law
by
> performing the caerimonia before the Pontifex Maximus has
officially
> announced adoption of the decretum.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48388 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Happy New Year to all!
M. Hortensia Quiritibus spd;
wishing a Bonum Annum to all the Quirites! to our 2 new
Consuls Faustus and Paulinus, the new magistrates, and with thanks for
the time & labour of our departing Consuls Strabo and Modianus and all
the hard-working magistrates who contribute to the res publica.

this day is also the Feria of Aesculapius, the healer & Vediovis, the
young Iuppiter. May the gods grant us further prosperity & joy!
bene valete in pacem deorum
M. Hortensia Maior

Also listen to Vox Romana:)
http://www.insulaumbra.com/voxromana/
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48389 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Fasti Anni MMDCCLX
Q. Caecilius Metellus Omnibus salutem.

For reference, the full calendar for any given year can be found in the
Decretum Pontificum de Calendario Perpetuo at
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Decretum_Pontificum_de_Calendario_Perpetuo_%28Nova_Roma%29

The nundinal letter for this year is F, which changes the character of
any day with this character to Fastus excepting days naturally Nefastus
Publicus (which shall remain nefastus publicus). I plan to continue to
publish the calendar monthly and nundinally, for the reference of all,
the latter containing the feriae for the nundinum in question.

A listing of all the nundinae for this year can be found at
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Market_Day_%28Nova_Roma%29, though I expect
that section to move sooner or later, at which point I'll note in public
where to find the same information.

Valete,

Q. Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48390 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Magna Mater Project - final report.
M. Hortensia T. Iulio Sabino;
Sabine, forgive me for not congratulating you on this wonderful
acheivement sooner (New Years festivities;-)

You & your cohors have done an incredible job on the Magna Mater
Project; the medallion is a terrific idea, the monies raised is
truly impressive. My thanks to all the cives you have contributed. I
have silently worked on 3 cohors for MM & You & your cohors'
devotion with your time & labour is a true tribute to the Protectrix
of Rome & a delight to the gods.

Last year was a great year for Nova Roma with the Coin Project, the
NR Wiki, Academia Thules,Domus Agricola etc in the Macellum selling
Roman items, Vox Romana, & the Magna Mater Project.
may this year be even greater; we certainly
have the benevolence of the Mother of the Gods
by your pious deeds
bene valete in pacem Matris Deorum
Maior



> SALVETE NOVI ROMANI!
>
> "Who is the Mother of the Gods? She is the source of the
> intellectual and creative Gods, who in their turn guide the
Visible
> Gods; she is both the Mother and the Spouse of Mighty Zeus; she
came
> into being next and together with the Great Creator; she is in
> control of every form of life and the course of all generations;
she
> easily brings to perfection all things that are made; without pain
> she brings to birth; She is the Motherless Maiden, enthroned at
the
> very side of Zeus, and in very truth is the Mother of All the
> Gods....."
> - Emperor Julian II 'the Blessed', from an Oration to Cybele
> composed at Pessinus MCXVI A.V.C.
>
> I. General consideration.
>
> Last year it was an important year for the Magna Mater Project. It
> was the year when the Official Magna Mater website it was
presented.
> It is available at the following internet address:
> http://www.magnamaterproject.org/en/home.php
> There are all the necessary dates about the Project, initiated in
> 2002 by Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus and his Cohort and
developed
> with great results by the next Aediles and Aedilician Cohorts of
> Franciscus Apulus Caesar, Marcus Iulius Perusianus and Lucius
Iulius
> Sulla.
> Thank you, Aediles, for your excellent job and dedication to the
> Project!
>
> As Project Coordinator for this year my first goal it was to
> establish a line for the Project development. For that, first, I
> created the necessaries structures: my Cohort and Magna Mater
> Collegium with specific duties.
> The members are listed in the following web pages:
> http://www.crystalwebvision.com/aedil/aediles.htm
> http://www.crystalwebvision.com/aedil/magnamater.htm
>
> At the beginning of the year I decided to start a campaign for the
> Magna Mater website promotion, inside our organization first and
> then outside of Nova Roma.
> This campaign is in correlation with the fundraising campaign, a
> continuous objective for me, my Cohort and MMP Collegium.
>
> II. Magna Mater Project promotion.
>
> The promotion of the Magna Mater Project and official website it
was
> for me the next logically step after the website it was presented
on
> line.
> With the help of the dedicated members of both Aedilician Cohorts
a
> draft page for promotion it was realized.
> http://www.dacia-novaroma.org/draft.htm
> My special thanks to the following citizens involved in this job:
> Aulla Tullia Scholastica - text editor.
> Tita Artoria Marcella - text editor.
> Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege - text editor.
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus - text editor.
> Gnaeus Iulius Caesar - web responsibilities
> Oppius Fabius Montanus - web responsibilities.
>
> I started the promotion campaign in a lot of our organization
> structures, from the provincials' one to the central
administration
> and directly to the Nova Roma members. Is difficult to keep an
> evidence of those who were receptive and help us with the
promotion.
> But I want to present some of them:
> - NR website - Valerius Callidus and Equitius Marinus.
> - Academia Thule - Caius Saturninus.
> - Archaeology Blog - Apollonius Scipio.
> - Gallia - Apollonius Scipio.
> - Canada Occidentalis - Suetonius Paulinus and Vipsanius Agrippa.
> - Italia - Franciscus Caesar.
> - Dacia – Iulius Sabinus.
> - Gens Iulia - Iulia Caesaris.
> - Gens Minucia - Minucia Marcella.
> - Pannonia ML - Cornelius Lentulus.
> - Mexic ML - Iulius Severus.
> - Germania - Flavius Conservatus.
> - Egressus - Gn. Iulius Caesar.
> - Go Roman Project - Gn. Iulius Caesar.
> - Mediatlantica - Gn. Equitius Marinus.
> - Canada Orientalis - Pompeia Minucia Strabo.
>
> With the dedication of M. Lucretius Agricola, our project is now
> present on the Nova Roma Wiki pages:
> http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/Magna_Mater_project
>
> III. Magna Mater Fundraising campaign.
>
> How I said the Project promotion is in correlation with the
> fundraising campaign. A new page was created:
> http://www.dacia-novaroma.org/draft2.htm
> My thanks to G. Aurelia falco Silvana for the english correction
of
> the text.
>
> The balance at the end of the year 2758 a.U.c, reported by the
hon.
> Iulius Sulla's Quaestor, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis, it was at
> 2759.25 USD and 611.89 Euro.
> At this year end the Project fund balance is at 3656.77 USD and 11
> Euro, reported by the hon. Quaestor Marcus Iulius Perusianus.
>
> We, the Magnae Matris Collegium, the Aedilician Cohorts and the
> Aediles, want to thank you for your donations. It is a testament
to
> your dedication to the ongoing development of the Magna Mater
> Project.
>
> This year MMP investors are:
> - G. Iulius Verus.
> - A. Tullius Marcellus Cato.
> - T. Galerius Paulinus.
> - A. Minucia Marcella.
> - S. Ullerius Venator.
> - M. Iunius Iulianus.
> - Edward LeBlanc.
> - Ti. Iulia Pulchra.
> - L. Cassia Silvana.
> - Q. Suetonius Paulinus.
>
> All the MMP investors are:
> - A. Minucia Marcella = 19.12 USD.
> - A. Tullius Marcellus Cato = 96.95 USD.
> - C. Curius Saturninus = 15 Euro.
> - C. Iulius Scaurus = 52.5 USD.
> - C. Iulius Verus = 2225.6 USD.
> - C.Vipsanius Agrippa = 20.64 Euro.
> - Compagnia delle Armi e delle Arti - Bologna = 40 Euro.
> - Diana Octavia Aventina = 15 Euro.
> - Edward LeBlanc = 18.92 USD.
> - Emilia Curia Finnica = 15 Euro.
> - Franciscus Apulus Caesar = 18 Euro.
> - Gallus Minicius-Tiberius Iovinus = 11 Euro.
> - Iulia Caesaris = 85 USD.
> - K. Fabius Buteo Quintilianus = 20 Euro.
> - L. Cassia Silvana = 20 USD.
> - M. Darius Firmitus = 19.12 USD.
> - M. Iunius Iulianus = 19.12 USD.
> - M. Iulius Perusianus = 9.75 USD.
> - Nova Roma Inc = 1663 USD.
> - Pompeia Minucia Strabo = 34.76 Euro.
> - Rotaract Club Pisa = 200 Euro.
> - Sextius Appolonius Scipio = 10 USD.
> - Sextius Pontius Pilatus Barbatus = 19.12 USD.
> - Stephanus Ullerius Venator = 48.25 USD.
> - Ti. Galerius Paulinus = 138.24 USD.
> - Ti. Iulia Pulchra = 38 USD.
> - T. Artoria Marcella = 20 USD.
> - T. Iulius Sabinus = 61.6 Euro.
> - Q. Fabius Allectus = 11 Euro.
> - Q. Suetonius Paulinus = 55.10 USD.
>
> Franciscus Apulus Caesar will upload in the first days of January
> (we have one more day for donations!!!) the Magna Mater website
> investors section, with the name and the donations of this
honorable
> citizens.
> http://www.magnamaterproject.org/en/project/investors.htm
> To support the Project, please visit this page:
> http://www.magnamaterproject.org/en/project/support.htm
>
> III. Magna Mater promotionals.
>
> The first Magna Mater Project promotional objects were produced: t-
> shirts and business cards.
> Destinations:
> - 5 t-shirts and 50 business cards - to Nova Roma Conventus from
> Hadrian Wall.
> - 50 business cards - to Provincia Italia.
> The producer is Caius Curius Saturninus, based by his great
> experience (see the calendar):
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/calendar/
> With this occasion I want to thank to Curius Saturninus for his
> dedication. A part from his calendars profit is redirected to the
> Magna Mater Project.
>
> IV. Magna Mater Project - Research section.
>
> 1. Magna Mater - Latin inscriptions around the world.
> The researchers' team was composed of M. Moravius Horatianus
> Piscinus, T. Artoria Marcella and M. Sempronia Justina. They have
> gone more than 60.000 inscriptions covering all the historical
roman
> provinces. All the dates were centralized inside the Cohort group,
> and I hope, that we will create the necessaries premises to
present
> a book with all inscriptions.
>
> 2. Magna Mater – Medallion project.
> The researchers' team was composed of M. Lucretius Agricola and L.
> Galeria Mira Pictrix. The design was finished and in the next year
> the MMP Collegium will choose the medallion legends and it will be
> produced.
> http://www.crystalwebvision.com/aedil/medallion.htm
>
> V. Frequently Asked Questions.
>
> For the new citizens I want to add to this bulletin the Iulius
> Perusianus FAQ, presented by Consul Pompeia Minucia Strabo:
>
> "We publish this list of questions and answers periodically for
the
> benefit of those not familiar with the project or its goals. We
> hope this is helpful to those new to Nova Roma.
> My thanks to F. Apulus Caesar Consul and Marcus Iulius Perusianus,
> Praetor 2758 Curulis Aedilis 2757, for the information in this
> section.
>
> ???COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME THE PURPOSE OF THE MAGNA MATER
> PROJECT???
>
> The ultimate goal is the restoration of the temple, but this is
> honestly very long term, especially when one takes into account
our
> current financial situation. But even having money, there are
> several other small, but necessary steps which are already under
> development to 'restore' the temple, in a wider significance of
the
> meaning. To restore it also means to 'valorize' the sanctuary,
its
> historical and archaeological aspects, and the significance of the
> cult of the Magna Mater. Put another way, 'enhancing' would be
> perhaps a better term for these first steps of the Project.
> Periodically, a bulletin such as this report is published to keep
> the citizenry apprised of project developments.
>
> ????HOW ARE DONATIONS FROM NOVA ROMA UTILIZED IN THE MAGNA
MATER
> PROJECT???
>
> Consider this list of things to do in the near future (as part of
> the MM project):
> i. official website
> ii. material to promote this project (leaflets publications,
DVD
> with topographical introduction to the location, archaeological
> remains and evidences, history of the Sanctuary of the Cult of
> Cybele in Rome
> iii. a six-month scholarship for a student of the University
of
> Rome
> iv. multimedia CD Rom (See section II of this bulletin to
review
> details.)
>
> ???WHAT IS THE RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT? WHY IS THE MAGNA
> MATER PROJECT SO IMPORTANT???
>
> It is important because it permits NR to spread its name into
the
> academic world, and provides the mechanism by which we may be
> entitled to manage Roman monuments. It's an opportunity to make
our
> name known in the macro national, physical world, after having
done
> so much in the virtual, electronic world.
>
> WILL NOVA ROMA EVER BE ALLOWED TO HOLD RITUAL THERE TO MAGNA
> MATER???
>
> ...Marcus Iulius Perusianus answersÂ…
>
> A certain number of NR citizens were able to visit the proximity
of
> the temple this past April, courtesy of a special pass by the
> Soprintendenza Archeologica di Roma (the entire south-west side of
> the Palatine, the Germalus, has been closed for the past 5-7
> years). We were accompanied by a guardian for almost the entire
> visit, and at our tour of the house of Augustus, I guess a very
> simple rite could have been held. I believe that a longer than 5
> minute ceremony, with an attendance of more than 10-15 people,
would
> hardly be tolerated. I am not talking about 'religious'
> intolerance; it is just a question of security. Soprintendenza is
> working in the Germalus areas, and it is not easy to attain
> permission to enter. Honestly, I think to have a ritual there is
> currently quite impossible. Mind you, I am only speaking of what
I
> foresee during my Aedileship.
>
> ???WHAT HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE DO THE TREES CURRENTLY GROWING ON
> TOP OF THE MM SANCTUARY HOLD? WHY ARE THEY MORE HISTORICALLY
> IMPORTANT THAN THE RESTORATION OF ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT TEMPLE
> SITES OF ROME???
>
> Â…Marcus Iulius Perusianus answersÂ…
>
> I have asked this of the manager of the Palatine ruins.
Currently,
> it is deemed a useless effort to cut these environmentally and
> historically protected trees, as the only part of the structure
> remaining is the basement of the temple (not considering the short
> remains of a couple of columns). We won't have a better view of
the
> bricks with the presence of these trees, which have been there for
> some centuries. The general guidelines of the Soprintendenza
> Archeologica di Roma are to maintain the monuments as they are,
> unless there is original material of the structure to position in
> their respective places. And, even when these materials are
found,
> it takes a lot of time to study exactly where they fit. It is a
> matter of academic official opinion that not a single
reconstruction
> effort can be made without appropriate archaeological evidence to
> support such action."
>
> --------------------------
> I want to present my special thanks to all the investors for their
> wonderful support, in the name of the Curules Aediles, both
Cohorts
> and Magna Mater Collegium.
> I want to thank to MMP Collegium and to my Aedilician Cohort for
> their excellent job.
> I want to thank to the excellent Quaestor M Iulius Perusianus for
> his job and friendship.
>
> Romani from Magna Mater Collegium and Cohors Sabina Pia Fidelis :
> To work together it was a great honor for me !
>
>
> VALETE,
> IVL SABINVS
> MMP 2759 a.U.c Custodiant
> Curule Aedile
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48391 From: Gregory Rose Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
Scaurus Maiori SPD.

> Concordia actually has reigned without unecessary rites or
> unnatural fear of the gods!

Concordia reigned because you did not post. May the Gods give us such a year.

Vale.

Scaurus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48392 From: C. Aurelia Falco Silvana Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Sad news: Funeral readings from Marcus Aurelius Antoninus.
C. Aurelia Falco Silvana T. Lindsay omnibusque civibus SPD.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, dicconf <dicconf@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dick had a stroke, apparently one of a series that had passed unnoticed
> because the symptoms were atypical until the one last night.
> The doctors at Prince George's Hospital operated to remove the clot,
> but the complications that followed were untreatable.
>
> Richard Harris Eney died this afternoon, December 22, 2006.
> He was 69 years old.
>
> Plans have not been made yet. I do not intend to do the standard
> funeral scene. There may be a memorial service at some time.
> In lieu of flowers, please make a donation to the charity of your
> choice.
>
> =Tamar Lindsay

My thoughts are with you and those close to you. My New Year's
Day rituals took me down to a stand of old-growth trees that
overlook our harbour. Silvanus is one of the deities of domus
Aurelia Falco, so this is a frequent stopping-place. In the
violent windstorms of November and December, and in spite of
being completely exposed to the winds, the grove lost just
one tree to the December hurricane-force winds. Like a caring
family, the remaining trees still stand around it.

When my father died in July 2005 (2758 auc) I also needed a
way to do something meaningful in a context that was often
less than comfortable to me. I obtained permission to do a
graveside reading, since everything up to that point was
dictated by church protocols. Afterwards, I received many
positive comments that indicated these readings can transcend
dogma and touch our common humanity.

I chose a selection of readings from the MEDITATIONS of
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, and offer them here again.
(I had posted them in 2005). If they are of help to you or
to anyone else dealing with bereavement (as we all of us
grow older), it will be an honor.

Vale Tamar, et valete omnes, in pace Deorum.

C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

Thurs 7 July
2005

Page references are to
MEDITATIONS by Marcus Aurelius [George Long trans.],
Book-of-the-Month Club, NY 1996.
[The George Long translation dates from the mid-nineteenth
century.]

Square brackets indicate words in the original text that
were omitted for a more comfortable fit with the Christian
context, out of respect for those present at the funeral
of my father on 2 July 2005.

==============================================================



I. from Chapter VIII, xxvii:
There are three relations between thee and other things:
the one to the body which surrounds thee; the second to
the divine cause from which all things come to all; and
the third to those who live with thee. (page 66)

II. from Chapter VII, ix:
All things are implicated with one another, and the bond
is holy; and there is hardly anything unconnected with any
other thing. For things have been co-ordinated, and they
combine to form the universe. For there is one universe
made up of all things, and one God who pervades all things,
and one substance, and one law, one common reason in all
intelligent animals, and one truth; if indeed there is also
one perfection for all animals which are of the same stock
and particpate in the same reason. (page 52)

III. from Chapter XII, xxvi:
When thou art troubled about anything, thou hast forgotten
this, that all things happen according to the universal
nature; and forgotten this, that a man's wrongful act is
nothing to thee; and further thou hast forgotten this,
that everything which happens, always happened so and will
happen so, and now happens so everywhere; forgotten this
too, how close is the kinship between a man and the whole
human race, for it is a community, not of a little blood
or seed, but of intelligence. And thou hast forgotten this
too, that every man's intelligence [is a god, and] is an
efflux of the deity; and forgotten this, that nothing is a
man's own, but that his child and his body and his very
soul come from the deity; forgotten this, that everything
is opinion; and lastly thou hast forgotten that every man
lives the present time only, and loses only this. (page 107)

IV. from Chapter VIII, lviii:
He who fears death either fears the loss of sensation, or
a different kind of sensation. But if thou shalt have no
sensation, neither wilt thou feel any harm; and if thou shalt
acquire another kind of sensation, thou wilt be a different
kind of living being, and thou wilt not cease to live. (page 72)

V. from Chapter VII, xxiii:
The universal nature out of the universal substance, as if
it were wax, now moulds a horse, and when it has broken this
up, it uses the material for a tree, then for a man, and then
for something else; and each of these things subsists for a
very short time. But it is no hardship for the vessel to be
broken up, just as there was none in its being fastened
together. (page 54)

VI. from Chapter XI, iii:
What a soul that is which is ready, if at any moment it must
be separated from the body, and ready either to be extinguished
or dispersed or continue to exist; but so that this readiness
comes from a man's own judgement, not from mere obstinacy,
[as with the Christians,] but considerately and with dignity
and in a way to persuade another, without tragic show. (page 93)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48393 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City...
On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City, the Nova Roma
citizens Lucius Arminius Faustus, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus have entered office
as consuls.
For Romans at the start of the year a careful ritual was observed to ensure
success in public and private affairs. The first words you spoke on rising in
the morning, the first actions performed within the house must be happy and
uncomplaining. Laurel and saffron, around the door or burning on the little
household altar, would bring some luck. But this was no holiday. As the year
started, so would it continue. One must be up and doing his or her's work. By all
means one could visit and receive friends; exchange good wishes and give
little gifts of dates, figs and honey to sweeten the coming year; but then it was
off to work. Wherever Roman citizens lived throughout the the lands, everything
done and said would, or might, set the pattern for the year: especially at
Rome itself.
If you could be in the City at this time you would see the temples, normally
kept shut, were open to worship, and fire burned on the altars that stood
before them. Unce again the solemn and annual procession of Roman notables was
once more to make its way up to the Temple of Jupiter - Best and Greatest to
seek a blessing on the Roman community.
Early in the day the crowds would have gathered in the Forum Romanum. The
senator wearing his heavy, newly-fulled and pure-white woollen toga over the
broad-stripe of his tunic, with the patrician shod with scarlet shoes,
cross-gartered. All Senators would be present on such a special occasion—all those not
hindered by illness or absent on the public service in or outside country. Then
there were representatives of the middle class of the 'knights' the merchants,
bankers and contractors, men of solid financial status, second estate in a
community where rank and privilege were not imagined to be incompatible with the
liberty of the individual. These men you could distinguish by the narrow
purple stripe beneath the toga. Next, the populus Romanus at large: artisans,
shopkeepers, labourers, servants, farm folk in for the day from the nearby country
perhaps to vote; and almost as numerous and not outwardly distinguishable,
the immigrants or indigenous, climbing to citizenship.

The procession would form up as the two Consuls, dressed in the purple and
embroidered togas of consuls, appeared in public. Ahead would move the knights,
alongside were the senators and preceding the consular pair, their lictors,
each with the traditional bundle of rods strapped round an axe and supported in
left hand and on left shoulder. Behind the Consuls would be carried the
ceremonial Etruscan folding stools of wood and metal inlaid with carved ivory,
sellae curules; the simple thrones of Roman magistrates.
The participants of the age-old sacrifice would be there: priests, herald,
flute player, victimarius, his assistant and young boy for good fortune who must
have both his parents living. Then there would be the victims: white oxen
from the Faliscan heights or the watery plain of Clitunno, their horns dusted
with gilt. At the foot of the slope the procession would turn to the left, and
move north-westwards towards the Capitol, past the high podium of the Temple
of Saturn, and up the steep slope of the paved, slightly curving Sacred Way
that led along the south face of the Capitoline Hill. Once through the gate and
into the sanctified area, they would stand before columns fronting the Temple
of Iuppiter, Iuno and Minerva. Within the doorway of the central shrine, that
of Iuppiter, the Consuls woud take their places for the first time upon their
sellae curules, facing outwards to the altar, the assembly gathered and gaze
out over the City.

It was now necessary to take the auspices and make sure that the God would
accept the coming sacrifice. The cage containing the sacred chickens, was
superintended by a special official, the pullarius. If the birds scuttled away
instead of greedily pecking at the cakes of grain thrown to them, it would be a
bad sign, and the ceremony cancelled. If all was well the pullarius would report
that the birds had fed. The altar fire would crackle with saffron. In the
presence of the togate consuls, and with the Senate and People of Rome, keeping
holy silence, the purple-veiled priest would offer prayers for the state, the
formulae carefully repeated from a written example and checked for correctness
by a listener appointed for this very purpose. Any mispronunciation or slur
invalidated the proceedings; the priest would have to start over. To drown
unlucky or polluted noises a piper played. Then the head of the ox was sprinkled
with meal by the priest, and turned sideways; the animal had its throat slit
and the victim was disembowelled and the entrails laid upon the altar. Only if
the ritual repeated undeviatingly that of past years could another year of
success be expected to take its place in the cycle. Afterwards would come a
second offering, this time made by the twelve Brethren of the Fields, an ancient
and exclusive body, of which the senior member was president, and whose members
constituted a kind of order of nobility. Its origin came when Rome was a small
town dependent on her farmers, whose crops yield success would be guaranteed
by piety.

The ceremony now concluded, the procession re-formed and descended the slope
it had climbed. The consuls, those magistrates present and senators made their
way to the Senate House in the north-east corner of the Forum for the first
meeting of the year. From there, the first disecions of the republic would be
discussed and issued.

As it was then, shall it be today...Happy New Year, Citizens of Nova Roma!

Q. Fabius Maximus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48394 From: nephelecarnal Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
Salve, Brett. If you care to give me a middle name, as well, I'll
see what sort of Roman name I can blanagram for you. If you care to
post your request at the UNRV forum here:

http://tinyurl.com/sgz42

I'll also give you your "family history" as a Roman citizen. :) You
can see examples of other names I've done there.

-- Nephele

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Brett Murphy <aussieman1968@...>
wrote:
>
> What would Brett Murphy translate as?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48395 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
-Maior Iulio salutem dicit;
May I suggest you have a happy start to your New Year &
congratulate someone who actually did something for the res publica?
Kindly drop this juvenile feud with me as I am doing & lets thank
Sabinus who has honoured Magna Mater, Agricola for designing our
coin that depicts Iuppiter, Avitus who teaches Latin to all of us,
Saturninus who designed & sells a calendar that shows all the Fasti.
Astur, Faustus for taking time from their work to make sound
recordings for our podcast.
I salute them all & so should you.
bene vale
M. Hortensia Maior


Concordia reigned because you did not post. May the Gods
give us such a year.
>
> Vale.
>
> Scaurus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48396 From: C. Aurelia Falco Silvana Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Happy New Year & readings on Peace
C. Aurelia Falco Silvana omnibus civibus bonum annum novum
exoptat.

Hoping you all find yourselves with family and friends,
and that the door of the New Year opens for you onto
a bright 12 months of personal growth.

The deities of Domus Aurelia Falco are Aurora, Horus,
Arachne, Nerthus and Silvanus (all classed as minor deities).
The day began with an early-morning walk to the waterfront
in honor of Aurora. From the fourth deck of an observation
tower, through the mist and pouring rain, the outlines of
the hills were just visible at the point where the
(not visible!) sun would have risen. I performed my usual
morning meditation at this point.

In honor of Horus, I took part in our annual bird count
on December 30, then today began learning more about the
marine birds by spending time observing after coming back
to earth (smile)from the tower.

In honor of Silvanus, I then visited a grove of old-growth
trees (fir, some maple a Pacific yew or two) that stands
on a bluff above the harbour. We have had terrific storms
in November and December, and during the December hurricane-
force winds one (only one!) of the trees came down. I made
offerings of wine for the fallen tree, and then for the
still-standing trees, offering thanks for their long lives.
I then made offerings of salt, again for the fallen and for
the standing, with wishes for a long future. (I am part of
an ad-hoc group of citizens has been struggling to preserve
this grove from development for more than a year now. We
have managed to cast into limbo plans for sale of the
property, but the struggle is not yet decided.)

Arachne will be honored this evening, with work in bobbin
lace and other threadcraft.

In honor of Nerthus, I took part in our annual Peace Walk.
And yes, we webfooted denizens of the We(s)t Coast walked
the walk in the pouring rain. At the end of the walk we
gathered in a community centre for songs and shared thoughts.
This was followed by a walk to our local Sikh Temple where
a vegetarian lunch was offered to all participants.

For the Peace Walk last year (2758 auc), I prepared a few
readings from Marcus Aurelius on the general theme of Peace.
It was my first participation, and very positively received.
This year's walk had the theme of "Let Peace begin with me."
And having had a *whole year* (grin) to prepare for this day,
I think I did a slightly better job of it.

I mosaiced a selection of readings, many of them quite short,
so that they can be read pretty much as a single discourse.
As soon as I finish this, I will be sending e-copies off to
three people who have requested them. At least one (and I
suspect all) had never heard of M. Aurelius Antoninus, so
the day is already well rewarded.

The readings follow. Any feedback would be welcome,
especially if you find a way to use this material yourself.

Vale bene in Pace Deorum.
C. Aurelia Falco Silvana


DE PACE / on peace 1 January 2007

MEDITATIONS by Marcus Aurelius [George Long trans.],
Book-of-the-Month Club, NY 1996.
[NB: The George Long translation dates from the mid-19th century]

Some adaptation by Silvana. Basically, because this was to
be read aloud to people unfamiliar with the work, I opted to
change the "thee, thou, thyself, etc" words to modern English.
In a few places I altered the turn of phrase to make it easier
to understand on first hearing. Yahoo does not reproduce the
italics I used to flag these changes. If anyone wants a copy
that shows the italicised bits, please e-mail me. You will need
to be able to receive an attachment in Word 2000.

If you would like the original version (which I prefer for
my personal use) let me know.



FOR PEACE WALK 2007:
LET PEACE BEGIN WITH ME


Among the animals which do not have the power of reason
one life is distributed; but among reasonable animals one
intelligent soul is distributed; just as there is one earth
of all things which are of an earthy nature, and we see by
one light, and breathe one air, all of us that have the
faculty of vision and all that have life.
(Chapter IX, viii: page 74)

We are all working together to one end, some with knowledge
and design, and others without knowing what they do; as
people also when they are asleep, of whom it is . . .
said that they are labourers and co-operators in the things
which take place in the universe. But people co-operate in
different ways: and even those co-operate abundantly, who
find fault with what happens and those who try to oppose it
and to hinder it; for the universe needs even of such people
as these. It remains then for you to understand among what
kind of workers you place yourself; for he who rules all
things will receive you among some part of the co-operators
and of those whose labours combine for one end . . . .
(Chapter VI, xlii: page 48)


First, do nothing inconsiderately, nor without a purpose.
Second, make your acts refer to nothing else than to a
social end.
(Chapter XII, xx: page 106)

Never value anything as profitable to yourself which shall
compel you to break your promise, to lose your self-respect,
to hate any man, to suspect, to curse, to act the hypocrite,
to desire anything which needs walls and curtains; for he who
has preferred to everything else his own intelligence and
spirit and the worship of its excellence, acts no tragic part,
does not groan, will not need either solitude or much company;
and, what is chief of all, . . . he will take care of this
only all through life, that his thoughts do not turn away
from anything which belongs to an intelligent animal and a
member of a civil community.
(Chapter III, vii: pages 16 – 17)

When you have been compelled by circumstances to be disturbed
in a manner, quickly return to yourself and do not continue
out of tune longer than the compulsion lasts; for you will
have more mastery over the harmony by continually returning
to it.
(Chapter VI, xi: page 41)


If it is not right, do not do it: if it is not true,
do not say it.
(Chapter XII, xvii: page 105)

. . . . Remember. . . and begin at last to be courageous
while you live. But you must equally avoid flattering men
and being vexed at them, for both are unsocial and lead to
harm. And let this truth be present to you in the excitement
of anger, that to be moved by passion is not manly, but that
mildness and gentleness, as they are more agreeable to human
nature, so also are they more manly; and he who possesses
these qualities possesses strength, nerves and courage, and
not the person who is subject to fits of passion and discontent. For
in the same degree in which one's mind is nearer to freedom
from all passion, in the same degree also is it nearer to
strength; and as the sense of pain is a characteristic of
weakness, so also is anger. For the person who yields to
pain and the one who yields to anger, both are wounded and
both submit.
(Chapter XI, xviii: page 99)

Try how the life of the good person suits you, the life of
the person who is satisfied with his own just acts and
benevolent disposition.
(Chapter IV, xxv: page 24)

All those things at which you wish to arrive by a circuitous
road you can have now, if you do not refuse them to yourself.
And this means, if you will take no notice of all the past,
and trust the future to providence, and direct the present
only conformably to piety and justice. Conformably to piety,
that you may be content with the lot which is assigned to you,
for nature designed it for you, and you for it. Conformably
to justice, that you may always speak the truth freely and
without disguise, and do the things which are agreeable law
and according to the worth of each. And do not let any
person's wickedness hinder you, nor opinion, nor voice, nor
yet the sensations of the poor flesh which has grown about
you; for the passive part will look to this. If then,
whatever the time may be when you shall be near to your
departure, neglecting everything else you shall respect
only your ruling faculty and the divinity within you, and
if then you shall be afraid, not because you must sometime
cease to live, but if you shall fear never to have begun
to live according to nature -- then you will be a person
worthy of the universe which has produced you, and you
will cease to be a stranger in your native land, and to
wonder at things which happen daily as if they were something
unexpected, and to be dependent on this or that.
(Chapter XII, i: page 102)


Look within. Within is the fountain of good, and it will
ever bubble up, if you will ever dig.
(Chapter VII, lxix: page 5)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48397 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City...
Salve Q. Fabius Maximus

Amice

Thank you very much for writing this.
I always llike to read it at the beginning of each new year.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City...




On the first day of January in the 2760th year of the City, the Nova Roma
citizens Lucius Arminius Faustus, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus have entered office
as consuls.
For Romans at the start of the year a careful ritual was observed to ensure
success in public and private affairs. The first words you spoke on rising in
the morning, the first actions performed within the house must be happy and
uncomplaining. Laurel and saffron, around the door or burning on the little
household altar, would bring some luck. But this was no holiday. As the year
started, so would it continue. One must be up and doing his or her's work. By all
means one could visit and receive friends; exchange good wishes and give
little gifts of dates, figs and honey to sweeten the coming year; but then it was
off to work. Wherever Roman citizens lived throughout the the lands, everything
done and said would, or might, set the pattern for the year: especially at
Rome itself.
If you could be in the City at this time you would see the temples, normally
kept shut, were open to worship, and fire burned on the altars that stood
before them. Unce again the solemn and annual procession of Roman notables was
once more to make its way up to the Temple of Jupiter - Best and Greatest to
seek a blessing on the Roman community.
Early in the day the crowds would have gathered in the Forum Romanum. The
senator wearing his heavy, newly-fulled and pure-white woollen toga over the
broad-stripe of his tunic, with the patrician shod with scarlet shoes,
cross-gartered. All Senators would be present on such a special occasion—all those not
hindered by illness or absent on the public service in or outside country. Then
there were representatives of the middle class of the 'knights' the merchants,
bankers and contractors, men of solid financial status, second estate in a
community where rank and privilege were not imagined to be incompatible with the
liberty of the individual. These men you could distinguish by the narrow
purple stripe beneath the toga. Next, the populus Romanus at large: artisans,
shopkeepers, labourers, servants, farm folk in for the day from the nearby country
perhaps to vote; and almost as numerous and not outwardly distinguishable,
the immigrants or indigenous, climbing to citizenship.

The procession would form up as the two Consuls, dressed in the purple and
embroidered togas of consuls, appeared in public. Ahead would move the knights,
alongside were the senators and preceding the consular pair, their lictors,
each with the traditional bundle of rods strapped round an axe and supported in
left hand and on left shoulder. Behind the Consuls would be carried the
ceremonial Etruscan folding stools of wood and metal inlaid with carved ivory,
sellae curules; the simple thrones of Roman magistrates.
The participants of the age-old sacrifice would be there: priests, herald,
flute player, victimarius, his assistant and young boy for good fortune who must
have both his parents living. Then there would be the victims: white oxen
from the Faliscan heights or the watery plain of Clitunno, their horns dusted
with gilt. At the foot of the slope the procession would turn to the left, and
move north-westwards towards the Capitol, past the high podium of the Temple
of Saturn, and up the steep slope of the paved, slightly curving Sacred Way
that led along the south face of the Capitoline Hill. Once through the gate and
into the sanctified area, they would stand before columns fronting the Temple
of Iuppiter, Iuno and Minerva. Within the doorway of the central shrine, that
of Iuppiter, the Consuls woud take their places for the first time upon their
sellae curules, facing outwards to the altar, the assembly gathered and gaze
out over the City.

It was now necessary to take the auspices and make sure that the God would
accept the coming sacrifice. The cage containing the sacred chickens, was
superintended by a special official, the pullarius. If the birds scuttled away
instead of greedily pecking at the cakes of grain thrown to them, it would be a
bad sign, and the ceremony cancelled. If all was well the pullarius would report
that the birds had fed. The altar fire would crackle with saffron. In the
presence of the togate consuls, and with the Senate and People of Rome, keeping
holy silence, the purple-veiled priest would offer prayers for the state, the
formulae carefully repeated from a written example and checked for correctness
by a listener appointed for this very purpose. Any mispronunciation or slur
invalidated the proceedings; the priest would have to start over. To drown
unlucky or polluted noises a piper played. Then the head of the ox was sprinkled
with meal by the priest, and turned sideways; the animal had its throat slit
and the victim was disembowelled and the entrails laid upon the altar. Only if
the ritual repeated undeviatingly that of past years could another year of
success be expected to take its place in the cycle. Afterwards would come a
second offering, this time made by the twelve Brethren of the Fields, an ancient
and exclusive body, of which the senior member was president, and whose members
constituted a kind of order of nobility. Its origin came when Rome was a small
town dependent on her farmers, whose crops yield success would be guaranteed
by piety.

The ceremony now concluded, the procession re-formed and descended the slope
it had climbed. The consuls, those magistrates present and senators made their
way to the Senate House in the north-east corner of the Forum for the first
meeting of the year. From there, the first disecions of the republic would be
discussed and issued.

As it was then, shall it be today...Happy New Year, Citizens of Nova Roma!

Q. Fabius Maximus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48398 From: mike orley Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Sad news: Funeral readings from Marcus Aurelius Antoninus.
D.Svetonivs Lvpvs C. Aurelia Falco Silvana S.P.D.

Salve Domina:

I was moved by your selections from M.A. Antoninus, my favorite and " Last of the Good Emperors"......

Its timeless message rings true down the centuries to this day....its beauty endures forever.

Vale et Valete
D. Svetonivs Lvpvs


C. Aurelia Falco Silvana T. Lindsay omnibusque civibus SPD.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, dicconf wrote:
>
>
> Dick had a stroke, apparently one of a series that had passed unnoticed
> because the symptoms were atypical until the one last night.
> The doctors at Prince George's Hospital operated to remove the clot,
> but the complications that followed were untreatable.
>
> Richard Harris Eney died this afternoon, December 22, 2006.
> He was 69 years old.
>
> Plans have not been made yet. I do not intend to do the standard
> funeral scene. There may be a memorial service at some time.
> In lieu of flowers, please make a donation to the charity of your
> choice.
>
> =Tamar Lindsay

My thoughts are with you and those close to you. My New Year's
Day rituals took me down to a stand of old-growth trees that
overlook our harbour. Silvanus is one of the deities of domus
Aurelia Falco, so this is a frequent stopping-place. In the
violent windstorms of November and December, and in spite of
being completely exposed to the winds, the grove lost just
one tree to the December hurricane-force winds. Like a caring
family, the remaining trees still stand around it.

When my father died in July 2005 (2758 auc) I also needed a
way to do something meaningful in a context that was often
less than comfortable to me. I obtained permission to do a
graveside reading, since everything up to that point was
dictated by church protocols. Afterwards, I received many
positive comments that indicated these readings can transcend
dogma and touch our common humanity.

I chose a selection of readings from the MEDITATIONS of
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, and offer them here again.
(I had posted them in 2005). If they are of help to you or
to anyone else dealing with bereavement (as we all of us
grow older), it will be an honor.

Vale Tamar, et valete omnes, in pace Deorum.

C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

Thurs 7 July
2005

Page references are to
MEDITATIONS by Marcus Aurelius [George Long trans.],
Book-of-the-Month Club, NY 1996.
[The George Long translation dates from the mid-nineteenth
century.]

Square brackets indicate words in the original text that
were omitted for a more comfortable fit with the Christian
context, out of respect for those present at the funeral
of my father on 2 July 2005.

==============================================================



I. from Chapter VIII, xxvii:
There are three relations between thee and other things:
the one to the body which surrounds thee; the second to
the divine cause from which all things come to all; and
the third to those who live with thee. (page 66)

II. from Chapter VII, ix:
All things are implicated with one another, and the bond
is holy; and there is hardly anything unconnected with any
other thing. For things have been co-ordinated, and they
combine to form the universe. For there is one universe
made up of all things, and one God who pervades all things,
and one substance, and one law, one common reason in all
intelligent animals, and one truth; if indeed there is also
one perfection for all animals which are of the same stock
and particpate in the same reason. (page 52)

III. from Chapter XII, xxvi:
When thou art troubled about anything, thou hast forgotten
this, that all things happen according to the universal
nature; and forgotten this, that a man's wrongful act is
nothing to thee; and further thou hast forgotten this,
that everything which happens, always happened so and will
happen so, and now happens so everywhere; forgotten this
too, how close is the kinship between a man and the whole
human race, for it is a community, not of a little blood
or seed, but of intelligence. And thou hast forgotten this
too, that every man's intelligence [is a god, and] is an
efflux of the deity; and forgotten this, that nothing is a
man's own, but that his child and his body and his very
soul come from the deity; forgotten this, that everything
is opinion; and lastly thou hast forgotten that every man
lives the present time only, and loses only this. (page 107)

IV. from Chapter VIII, lviii:
He who fears death either fears the loss of sensation, or
a different kind of sensation. But if thou shalt have no
sensation, neither wilt thou feel any harm; and if thou shalt
acquire another kind of sensation, thou wilt be a different
kind of living being, and thou wilt not cease to live. (page 72)

V. from Chapter VII, xxiii:
The universal nature out of the universal substance, as if
it were wax, now moulds a horse, and when it has broken this
up, it uses the material for a tree, then for a man, and then
for something else; and each of these things subsists for a
very short time. But it is no hardship for the vessel to be
broken up, just as there was none in its being fastened
together. (page 54)

VI. from Chapter XI, iii:
What a soul that is which is ready, if at any moment it must
be separated from the body, and ready either to be extinguished
or dispersed or continue to exist; but so that this readiness
comes from a man's own judgement, not from mere obstinacy,
[as with the Christians,] but considerately and with dignity
and in a way to persuade another, without tragic show. (page 93)










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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48399 From: Jibril ibn Najdah ibn Zayd al-`Attar Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
> Salve, Brett. If you care to give me a middle name, as well, I'll
> see what sort of Roman name I can blanagram for you. If you care to
> post your request at the UNRV forum here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/sgz42
>
> I'll also give you your "family history" as a Roman citizen. :) You
> can see examples of other names I've done there.
>
> -- Nephele


Salve Nephele!

After having read through all of the posts on the UNRV forum on this
matter, I'm quite amused...and curious. When you have a free moment,
could you kindly see what hidden Roman name you can find in this:

ceeijjklmorsy [[Male]]

Until the next time,
[pending to be] D. Saturius Praeconinus
[[PS: My apologies if I got the greeting wrong; Latin is a fairly new
realm for me.]]
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48400 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Oath of office as Quaestor
Gn. Equitius Marinus Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit:

Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me
defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse
sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, officio Quaestoris Novae Romae accepto, deos
deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et
virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam
defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne
quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus officiis muneris Quaestoris me quam optime
functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Quaestoris una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

Datum sub manum mea, Kal. Ian. MMDCCLX ab urbe condita
Lucio Arminio Faustis et Tiberio Galerio Paulinis Consulibus

=============================================================

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C.
Gawne) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to
act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (William C. Gawne) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best
of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given under my hand this first day of January, 2760 a.u.c. in the
Consulship of Lucius Arminius Faustus and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.

Gn. Equitius Marinus
Censorius, Consular, Senator Novae Romae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48401 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Fasti Ianuarii-The traditional affirmation of the calendar by the S
Fl. Galerius Aurelianus fl Cer sal.

The Consuls and the Senate, by traditional historical practice, would
convene on the Kal of Ian. to confirm the calendar that had been recommended by the
Pontiffs. Also, there are certain feriae that are conceptivae (movable)
that must be determined during the first meeting of the Senate. While the CP
has approved the calendars for 2759 and 2760, it is the duty of the Consuls and
Senate to formalize the calendar.

Valete.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48402 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-01
Subject: Re: Latin Greetings & Usage ( was; Your Hidden, Roman Name)
M. Hortensia quiritibus spd;
for those who are new to the fun big topic of Roman
nomenclature; please go to our Main Page & click on 'choosing a
Roman Name' Cordus answers all your questions!
Just scroll down to 'usage' there you will find how to address
people, which names to use & what not to use. Don't call people by
their praenomina: eg 'Salve Marce, Marca' or 'Dominus, Domina.' One
is way too familiar, the other servile.
A. Apollonius Cordus wrote the article & its scholarship is
absolutely impeccable.

If you want to address a new person in the forum & don't know his or
her name: use 'optime vir', 'optime mulier' (vocative) which is
classical usage.

When starting a post use your praenomen + nomen & the person or
people addressed in the dative case followed by s.d [salutem dicit]
or s.p.d

It's really not that bad as all Masculine names ending in
ius- io Iulius - Iulio
us- o Brutus - Bruto
Feminines ending in a
a- ae Claudia - Claudiae

So Marca Hortensia Maior addresses Aulus Apollonius Cordus:

M. Hortensia A. Apollonio Cordo spd;

Cordus addresses Hortensia:

A. Apollonio M. Hortensiae spd;

some cognomens are irregular...like mine " Maior", "Cato" "Strabo"
they take an 'i'
so
M. Hortensia G. Equito Catoni spd;
G. Equitio Cato M. Hortensiae Maiori spd;
M. Hortensia P. Minuciae Straboni spd;

but as I typed above you can omit the difficult cognomen & call the
person by his/her praenomen + nomen.

For plurals: omnes in the dative are "omnibus", cives are 'civibus',
quirites are 'quiritibus'

& save this or copy the Nomenclature article. It's just what I did
when I joined over 3 happy years ago & was clueless about
addressing people but wanted to learn.
curate ut valeatis
M. Hortensia Maior




In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Jibril ibn Najdah ibn Zayd al-`Attar"
<giudo.brunelleschi@...> wrote:
>
> > Salve, Brett. If you care to give me a middle name, as well,
I'll
> > see what sort of Roman name I can blanagram for you. If you
care to
> > post your request at the UNRV forum here:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/sgz42
> >
> > I'll also give you your "family history" as a Roman
citizen. :) You
> > can see examples of other names I've done there.
> >
> > -- Nephele
>
>
> Salve Nephele!
>
> After having read through all of the posts on the UNRV forum on
this
> matter, I'm quite amused...and curious. When you have a free
moment,
> could you kindly see what hidden Roman name you can find in this:
>
> ceeijjklmorsy [[Male]]
>
> Until the next time,
> [pending to be] D. Saturius Praeconinus
> [[PS: My apologies if I got the greeting wrong; Latin is a fairly
new
> realm for me.]]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48403 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Q. Caecilius Metellus Senatui Populoque Quiritium Romano salutem dicit.

QVOD BONVM FAVSTVM FELIX FORTVNATVMQVE SIT POPVLO ROMANO QUIRITIBVS

In absentia Pontifici Maximi, as the convening pontifex, I announce the
results of the last meeting of the Collegium Pontificum.

The Collegium Pontificum having met to determine:

I. A Recommendation to the Senate on the Feriae to be Observed L.
Arminio Ti. Galerio coss.; and,

II. The reappointment of Diana Octavia Aventina to the position of
Veneris Aedis Sacerdos

the decisions were that

I. The Collegium recommends to the Senate that the following feriae be
observed L. Arminio Ti. Galerio coss.:

L. Apollinares
L. Cereales
L. Florales
L. Magnae Matri Deum
L. Plebeii
L. Romani
F. Aesculapio
F. Annae Perennae
F. Latinae*
F. Maiae
F. Marti
F. Sementivae*
F. Vicae Potae
ad Argeorum Sacella Procedere
ad Manes Placendos Dies
Agonium Decembre
Agonium Ianuarianum
Agonium Maianum
Agonium Martiale
Ambarvalia
Arma movere ancilla
Armilustrium
Carmentalia
Cerealia
Consualia Sextilia
Consualia Decembra
Divalia
Equirria
Equus October
Faunalia
Feralia
Floralia
Fontinalia
Fordicidia
Fornacalia*
Furrinalia
Larentalia
Lemuria
Lucaria
Lupercalia
Matralia
Meditrinalia
Neptunalia
Opalia
Opiconsivia
Palilia
Poplifugium
Portunalia
Quinquatrus Martiales
Quinquatrus Minisculae
Quirinalia
Regifugium
Robigalia
Saturnalia
Terminalia
Tubilustrium Martiale
Tubilustrium Maianum
Veneralia
Vestalia
Vinalia Priora
Vinalia Rustica
Virgo Vestalis Parentat
Volcanalia
Volturnalia

(Those followed with an asterisk (*) are 'moveable' festivals (i.e.,
feriae conceptivae); the abbreviations are L[udi] and F[eriae].)

; and that,

II. Diana Octavia Aventina is returned to the position of Veneris Aedis
Sacerdos.

cum obsignatione Q. Caecili Metelli pontificis a.d. VI Non. Ian. ad
Senatum et Populum Romanum adnuntiata hac responsa.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48404 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Q. Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem.

In my publication of these results, I realise that I forgot three words.
In Item II, it should read:

II. The Collegium recommends to the Senate that the following feriae be
observed *by the State* L. Arminio Ti. Galerio coss. ...

Mea culpa.

QCM
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48405 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Agricola Metello sal.

I have a few questions: I understand if it is the case that there is
no answer yet to some of them.

Does "L. Cereales" mean the Cerealia? Or is it different?

Is there a timetable for setting dates of movable feriae?

Will the dates follow the table you posted on the wiki
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Feriae ?

ago tibi gratias

optime vale!




--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Caecilius Metellus"
<postumianus@...> wrote:
>
> Q. Caecilius Metellus Senatui Populoque Quiritium Romano salutem dicit.
>
> QVOD BONVM FAVSTVM FELIX FORTVNATVMQVE SIT POPVLO ROMANO QUIRITIBVS
>
> In absentia Pontifici Maximi, as the convening pontifex, I announce the
> results of the last meeting of the Collegium Pontificum.
>
> The Collegium Pontificum having met to determine:
>
> I. A Recommendation to the Senate on the Feriae to be Observed L.
> Arminio Ti. Galerio coss.; and,
>
> II. The reappointment of Diana Octavia Aventina to the position of
> Veneris Aedis Sacerdos
>
> the decisions were that
>
> I. The Collegium recommends to the Senate that the following feriae be
> observed L. Arminio Ti. Galerio coss.:
>
> L. Apollinares
> L. Cereales
> L. Florales
> L. Magnae Matri Deum
> L. Plebeii
> L. Romani
> F. Aesculapio
> F. Annae Perennae
> F. Latinae*
> F. Maiae
> F. Marti
> F. Sementivae*
> F. Vicae Potae
> ad Argeorum Sacella Procedere
> ad Manes Placendos Dies
> Agonium Decembre
> Agonium Ianuarianum
> Agonium Maianum
> Agonium Martiale
> Ambarvalia
> Arma movere ancilla
> Armilustrium
> Carmentalia
> Cerealia
> Consualia Sextilia
> Consualia Decembra
> Divalia
> Equirria
> Equus October
> Faunalia
> Feralia
> Floralia
> Fontinalia
> Fordicidia
> Fornacalia*
> Furrinalia
> Larentalia
> Lemuria
> Lucaria
> Lupercalia
> Matralia
> Meditrinalia
> Neptunalia
> Opalia
> Opiconsivia
> Palilia
> Poplifugium
> Portunalia
> Quinquatrus Martiales
> Quinquatrus Minisculae
> Quirinalia
> Regifugium
> Robigalia
> Saturnalia
> Terminalia
> Tubilustrium Martiale
> Tubilustrium Maianum
> Veneralia
> Vestalia
> Vinalia Priora
> Vinalia Rustica
> Virgo Vestalis Parentat
> Volcanalia
> Volturnalia
>
> (Those followed with an asterisk (*) are 'moveable' festivals (i.e.,
> feriae conceptivae); the abbreviations are L[udi] and F[eriae].)
>
> ; and that,
>
> II. Diana Octavia Aventina is returned to the position of Veneris Aedis
> Sacerdos.
>
> cum obsignatione Q. Caecili Metelli pontificis a.d. VI Non. Ian. ad
> Senatum et Populum Romanum adnuntiata hac responsa.
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48406 From: Thomas Vogel Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Happy New Year to all!
Salve Aventina,

Happy New Year to you too. All the best wishes for your recovery.

Vale bene
Titus Flavius Aquila ( from the Provinciae Germania)







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01-01-07 19:31


Salvete,
I wish all Nova Romans good health and happiness in 2007!

And sorry for being quiet this month. I've broken my right elbow (and I'm
right handed) so typing lefty or just sitting by the computer with a cast
from my fingertips to my shoulder is uncomfortable. I'll be back in
fighting force eventually :-)
Valete,
Diana

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48407 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Report of Piacular Caerimonia ad aedem Quirini Concordiaeque, I
Salvete,

You both - Concordia doesn´t help citizens who like to pin each other.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus


2007/1/1, Maior <rory12001@...>:
>
> -Maior Iulio salutem dicit;
> May I suggest you have a happy start to your New Year &
> congratulate someone who actually did something for the res publica?
> Kindly drop this juvenile feud with me as I am doing & lets thank
> Sabinus who has honoured Magna Mater, Agricola for designing our
> coin that depicts Iuppiter, Avitus who teaches Latin to all of us,
> Saturninus who designed & sells a calendar that shows all the Fasti.
> Astur, Faustus for taking time from their work to make sound
> recordings for our podcast.
> I salute them all & so should you.
> bene vale
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>
> Concordia reigned because you did not post. May the Gods
> give us such a year.
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> > Scaurus
> >
>
>
>



--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48408 From: Marcus Iulius Perusianus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Magna Mater Project - final report.
ave Sabine,

thank you very much amice for what you've done along this year in the
MM Project!

And.....even tought a little late, HAPPY NEW YEAR and WELCOME TO THE
EVROPEAN VNION!

vale optime

M IVL PERVSIANVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> M. Hortensia T. Iulio Sabino;
> Sabine, forgive me for not congratulating you on this wonderful
> acheivement sooner (New Years festivities;-)
>
> You & your cohors have done an incredible job on the Magna Mater
> Project; the medallion is a terrific idea, the monies raised is
> truly impressive. My thanks to all the cives you have contributed. I
> have silently worked on 3 cohors for MM & You & your cohors'
> devotion with your time & labour is a true tribute to the Protectrix
> of Rome & a delight to the gods.
>
> Last year was a great year for Nova Roma with the Coin Project, the
> NR Wiki, Academia Thules,Domus Agricola etc in the Macellum selling
> Roman items, Vox Romana, & the Magna Mater Project.
> may this year be even greater; we certainly
> have the benevolence of the Mother of the Gods
> by your pious deeds
> bene valete in pacem Matris Deorum
> Maior
>
>
>
> > SALVETE NOVI ROMANI!
> >
> > "Who is the Mother of the Gods? She is the source of the
> > intellectual and creative Gods, who in their turn guide the
> Visible
> > Gods; she is both the Mother and the Spouse of Mighty Zeus; she
> came
> > into being next and together with the Great Creator; she is in
> > control of every form of life and the course of all generations;
> she
> > easily brings to perfection all things that are made; without pain
> > she brings to birth; She is the Motherless Maiden, enthroned at
> the
> > very side of Zeus, and in very truth is the Mother of All the
> > Gods....."
> > - Emperor Julian II 'the Blessed', from an Oration to Cybele
> > composed at Pessinus MCXVI A.V.C.
> >
> > I. General consideration.
> >
> > Last year it was an important year for the Magna Mater Project. It
> > was the year when the Official Magna Mater website it was
> presented.
> > It is available at the following internet address:
> > http://www.magnamaterproject.org/en/home.php
> > There are all the necessary dates about the Project, initiated in
> > 2002 by Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus and his Cohort and
> developed
> > with great results by the next Aediles and Aedilician Cohorts of
> > Franciscus Apulus Caesar, Marcus Iulius Perusianus and Lucius
> Iulius
> > Sulla.
> > Thank you, Aediles, for your excellent job and dedication to the
> > Project!
> >
> > As Project Coordinator for this year my first goal it was to
> > establish a line for the Project development. For that, first, I
> > created the necessaries structures: my Cohort and Magna Mater
> > Collegium with specific duties.
> > The members are listed in the following web pages:
> > http://www.crystalwebvision.com/aedil/aediles.htm
> > http://www.crystalwebvision.com/aedil/magnamater.htm
> >
> > At the beginning of the year I decided to start a campaign for the
> > Magna Mater website promotion, inside our organization first and
> > then outside of Nova Roma.
> > This campaign is in correlation with the fundraising campaign, a
> > continuous objective for me, my Cohort and MMP Collegium.
> >
> > II. Magna Mater Project promotion.
> >
> > The promotion of the Magna Mater Project and official website it
> was
> > for me the next logically step after the website it was presented
> on
> > line.
> > With the help of the dedicated members of both Aedilician Cohorts
> a
> > draft page for promotion it was realized.
> > http://www.dacia-novaroma.org/draft.htm
> > My special thanks to the following citizens involved in this job:
> > Aulla Tullia Scholastica - text editor.
> > Tita Artoria Marcella - text editor.
> > Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege - text editor.
> > Gnaeus Equitius Marinus - text editor.
> > Gnaeus Iulius Caesar - web responsibilities
> > Oppius Fabius Montanus - web responsibilities.
> >
> > I started the promotion campaign in a lot of our organization
> > structures, from the provincials' one to the central
> administration
> > and directly to the Nova Roma members. Is difficult to keep an
> > evidence of those who were receptive and help us with the
> promotion.
> > But I want to present some of them:
> > - NR website - Valerius Callidus and Equitius Marinus.
> > - Academia Thule - Caius Saturninus.
> > - Archaeology Blog - Apollonius Scipio.
> > - Gallia - Apollonius Scipio.
> > - Canada Occidentalis - Suetonius Paulinus and Vipsanius Agrippa.
> > - Italia - Franciscus Caesar.
> > - Dacia – Iulius Sabinus.
> > - Gens Iulia - Iulia Caesaris.
> > - Gens Minucia - Minucia Marcella.
> > - Pannonia ML - Cornelius Lentulus.
> > - Mexic ML - Iulius Severus.
> > - Germania - Flavius Conservatus.
> > - Egressus - Gn. Iulius Caesar.
> > - Go Roman Project - Gn. Iulius Caesar.
> > - Mediatlantica - Gn. Equitius Marinus.
> > - Canada Orientalis - Pompeia Minucia Strabo.
> >
> > With the dedication of M. Lucretius Agricola, our project is now
> > present on the Nova Roma Wiki pages:
> > http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/Magna_Mater_project
> >
> > III. Magna Mater Fundraising campaign.
> >
> > How I said the Project promotion is in correlation with the
> > fundraising campaign. A new page was created:
> > http://www.dacia-novaroma.org/draft2.htm
> > My thanks to G. Aurelia falco Silvana for the english correction
> of
> > the text.
> >
> > The balance at the end of the year 2758 a.U.c, reported by the
> hon.
> > Iulius Sulla's Quaestor, Lucius Rutilius Minervalis, it was at
> > 2759.25 USD and 611.89 Euro.
> > At this year end the Project fund balance is at 3656.77 USD and 11
> > Euro, reported by the hon. Quaestor Marcus Iulius Perusianus.
> >
> > We, the Magnae Matris Collegium, the Aedilician Cohorts and the
> > Aediles, want to thank you for your donations. It is a testament
> to
> > your dedication to the ongoing development of the Magna Mater
> > Project.
> >
> > This year MMP investors are:
> > - G. Iulius Verus.
> > - A. Tullius Marcellus Cato.
> > - T. Galerius Paulinus.
> > - A. Minucia Marcella.
> > - S. Ullerius Venator.
> > - M. Iunius Iulianus.
> > - Edward LeBlanc.
> > - Ti. Iulia Pulchra.
> > - L. Cassia Silvana.
> > - Q. Suetonius Paulinus.
> >
> > All the MMP investors are:
> > - A. Minucia Marcella = 19.12 USD.
> > - A. Tullius Marcellus Cato = 96.95 USD.
> > - C. Curius Saturninus = 15 Euro.
> > - C. Iulius Scaurus = 52.5 USD.
> > - C. Iulius Verus = 2225.6 USD.
> > - C.Vipsanius Agrippa = 20.64 Euro.
> > - Compagnia delle Armi e delle Arti - Bologna = 40 Euro.
> > - Diana Octavia Aventina = 15 Euro.
> > - Edward LeBlanc = 18.92 USD.
> > - Emilia Curia Finnica = 15 Euro.
> > - Franciscus Apulus Caesar = 18 Euro.
> > - Gallus Minicius-Tiberius Iovinus = 11 Euro.
> > - Iulia Caesaris = 85 USD.
> > - K. Fabius Buteo Quintilianus = 20 Euro.
> > - L. Cassia Silvana = 20 USD.
> > - M. Darius Firmitus = 19.12 USD.
> > - M. Iunius Iulianus = 19.12 USD.
> > - M. Iulius Perusianus = 9.75 USD.
> > - Nova Roma Inc = 1663 USD.
> > - Pompeia Minucia Strabo = 34.76 Euro.
> > - Rotaract Club Pisa = 200 Euro.
> > - Sextius Appolonius Scipio = 10 USD.
> > - Sextius Pontius Pilatus Barbatus = 19.12 USD.
> > - Stephanus Ullerius Venator = 48.25 USD.
> > - Ti. Galerius Paulinus = 138.24 USD.
> > - Ti. Iulia Pulchra = 38 USD.
> > - T. Artoria Marcella = 20 USD.
> > - T. Iulius Sabinus = 61.6 Euro.
> > - Q. Fabius Allectus = 11 Euro.
> > - Q. Suetonius Paulinus = 55.10 USD.
> >
> > Franciscus Apulus Caesar will upload in the first days of January
> > (we have one more day for donations!!!) the Magna Mater website
> > investors section, with the name and the donations of this
> honorable
> > citizens.
> > http://www.magnamaterproject.org/en/project/investors.htm
> > To support the Project, please visit this page:
> > http://www.magnamaterproject.org/en/project/support.htm
> >
> > III. Magna Mater promotionals.
> >
> > The first Magna Mater Project promotional objects were produced: t-
> > shirts and business cards.
> > Destinations:
> > - 5 t-shirts and 50 business cards - to Nova Roma Conventus from
> > Hadrian Wall.
> > - 50 business cards - to Provincia Italia.
> > The producer is Caius Curius Saturninus, based by his great
> > experience (see the calendar):
> > http://www.insulaumbra.com/calendar/
> > With this occasion I want to thank to Curius Saturninus for his
> > dedication. A part from his calendars profit is redirected to the
> > Magna Mater Project.
> >
> > IV. Magna Mater Project - Research section.
> >
> > 1. Magna Mater - Latin inscriptions around the world.
> > The researchers' team was composed of M. Moravius Horatianus
> > Piscinus, T. Artoria Marcella and M. Sempronia Justina. They have
> > gone more than 60.000 inscriptions covering all the historical
> roman
> > provinces. All the dates were centralized inside the Cohort group,
> > and I hope, that we will create the necessaries premises to
> present
> > a book with all inscriptions.
> >
> > 2. Magna Mater – Medallion project.
> > The researchers' team was composed of M. Lucretius Agricola and L.
> > Galeria Mira Pictrix. The design was finished and in the next year
> > the MMP Collegium will choose the medallion legends and it will be
> > produced.
> > http://www.crystalwebvision.com/aedil/medallion.htm
> >
> > V. Frequently Asked Questions.
> >
> > For the new citizens I want to add to this bulletin the Iulius
> > Perusianus FAQ, presented by Consul Pompeia Minucia Strabo:
> >
> > "We publish this list of questions and answers periodically for
> the
> > benefit of those not familiar with the project or its goals. We
> > hope this is helpful to those new to Nova Roma.
> > My thanks to F. Apulus Caesar Consul and Marcus Iulius Perusianus,
> > Praetor 2758 Curulis Aedilis 2757, for the information in this
> > section.
> >
> > ???COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME THE PURPOSE OF THE MAGNA MATER
> > PROJECT???
> >
> > The ultimate goal is the restoration of the temple, but this is
> > honestly very long term, especially when one takes into account
> our
> > current financial situation. But even having money, there are
> > several other small, but necessary steps which are already under
> > development to 'restore' the temple, in a wider significance of
> the
> > meaning. To restore it also means to 'valorize' the sanctuary,
> its
> > historical and archaeological aspects, and the significance of the
> > cult of the Magna Mater. Put another way, 'enhancing' would be
> > perhaps a better term for these first steps of the Project.
> > Periodically, a bulletin such as this report is published to keep
> > the citizenry apprised of project developments.
> >
> > ????HOW ARE DONATIONS FROM NOVA ROMA UTILIZED IN THE MAGNA
> MATER
> > PROJECT???
> >
> > Consider this list of things to do in the near future (as part of
> > the MM project):
> > i. official website
> > ii. material to promote this project (leaflets publications,
> DVD
> > with topographical introduction to the location, archaeological
> > remains and evidences, history of the Sanctuary of the Cult of
> > Cybele in Rome
> > iii. a six-month scholarship for a student of the University
> of
> > Rome
> > iv. multimedia CD Rom (See section II of this bulletin to
> review
> > details.)
> >
> > ???WHAT IS THE RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT? WHY IS THE MAGNA
> > MATER PROJECT SO IMPORTANT???
> >
> > It is important because it permits NR to spread its name into
> the
> > academic world, and provides the mechanism by which we may be
> > entitled to manage Roman monuments. It's an opportunity to make
> our
> > name known in the macro national, physical world, after having
> done
> > so much in the virtual, electronic world.
> >
> > WILL NOVA ROMA EVER BE ALLOWED TO HOLD RITUAL THERE TO MAGNA
> > MATER???
> >
> > ...Marcus Iulius Perusianus answersÂ…
> >
> > A certain number of NR citizens were able to visit the proximity
> of
> > the temple this past April, courtesy of a special pass by the
> > Soprintendenza Archeologica di Roma (the entire south-west side of
> > the Palatine, the Germalus, has been closed for the past 5-7
> > years). We were accompanied by a guardian for almost the entire
> > visit, and at our tour of the house of Augustus, I guess a very
> > simple rite could have been held. I believe that a longer than 5
> > minute ceremony, with an attendance of more than 10-15 people,
> would
> > hardly be tolerated. I am not talking about 'religious'
> > intolerance; it is just a question of security. Soprintendenza is
> > working in the Germalus areas, and it is not easy to attain
> > permission to enter. Honestly, I think to have a ritual there is
> > currently quite impossible. Mind you, I am only speaking of what
> I
> > foresee during my Aedileship.
> >
> > ???WHAT HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE DO THE TREES CURRENTLY GROWING ON
> > TOP OF THE MM SANCTUARY HOLD? WHY ARE THEY MORE HISTORICALLY
> > IMPORTANT THAN THE RESTORATION OF ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT TEMPLE
> > SITES OF ROME???
> >
> > Â…Marcus Iulius Perusianus answersÂ…
> >
> > I have asked this of the manager of the Palatine ruins.
> Currently,
> > it is deemed a useless effort to cut these environmentally and
> > historically protected trees, as the only part of the structure
> > remaining is the basement of the temple (not considering the short
> > remains of a couple of columns). We won't have a better view of
> the
> > bricks with the presence of these trees, which have been there for
> > some centuries. The general guidelines of the Soprintendenza
> > Archeologica di Roma are to maintain the monuments as they are,
> > unless there is original material of the structure to position in
> > their respective places. And, even when these materials are
> found,
> > it takes a lot of time to study exactly where they fit. It is a
> > matter of academic official opinion that not a single
> reconstruction
> > effort can be made without appropriate archaeological evidence to
> > support such action."
> >
> > --------------------------
> > I want to present my special thanks to all the investors for their
> > wonderful support, in the name of the Curules Aediles, both
> Cohorts
> > and Magna Mater Collegium.
> > I want to thank to MMP Collegium and to my Aedilician Cohort for
> > their excellent job.
> > I want to thank to the excellent Quaestor M Iulius Perusianus for
> > his job and friendship.
> >
> > Romani from Magna Mater Collegium and Cohors Sabina Pia Fidelis :
> > To work together it was a great honor for me !
> >
> >
> > VALETE,
> > IVL SABINVS
> > MMP 2759 a.U.c Custodiant
> > Curule Aedile
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48409 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Request to all incoming magistrates
Agricola Omnibus sal.

I would like to ask all incoming magistrates to take a moment to
attend to some wiki matters.


1. If this is your first step on the Cursus Honorum, please add

[[Category: Magistrates (Nova Roma)]]

to your bio page in the wiki. If you don't have a bio page, please
create one. If you need help, please contact me or post a message to
the NRWiki list.


2. As quaestors are assigned, please update the appropriate entry at
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Category:Magistrates_%28Nova_Roma%29


3. Please consider appointing one scriba the job of handling your wiki
posts. This would include posting edicta and adding to the annals at
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/MMDCCLX It is strongly urged that this
person subscribe to NRWiki.


many thanks to you all

optime valete
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48410 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Magna Mater Project - final report.
SALVE ET SALVETE !

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Iulius Perusianus"
<peraznanie@...> wrote:
> thank you very much amice for what you've done along this year in
the MM Project!>>>

Thank you. All were possible because my Cohort members and Magna Mater
Collegium members. And I had an incredible and wonderful chance to
have you as Quaestor.
I want to thanks to the Gods for this and then to you all, optimi
amici, who were near me in my aedilician job. Finally I want to thank
to my lovely wife, Arria Carina, who take over a lot from my macro
national responsibilities and created for me the necessaries
conditions to have time to do my job.

> And.....even tought a little late, HAPPY NEW YEAR and WELCOME TO THE
EVROPEAN VNION!>>>

Yes, this is a great event. I'm proud and happy as time as I'm one who
contributed inside my country boundaries to the reconstruction. I
belong to the noble and good part of Romania and I believe in its good
faith.
Forty years of communism are nothing in the Romania history. We were
able to pass moments more difficult in our history. Now we have a good
reason to change all in good: the future of our children.
I believe in our European family, I believe in our world family and in
the great future of all humanity.

From Dacia, I salute you !
IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48411 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: post. Kal. Ian. (a.d. IV Non. Ian.)
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est postridie Kalendas Ianuarius (a.d. IV Nonas Ianuarius); haec
dies fastus aterque est.

"By the order of Amulius some of his servants took the babes [Romulus
and Remus] in an ark and carried them to the river, distant about a
hundred and twenty stades from the city, with the intention of
throwing them into it. But when they drew near and perceived that the
Tiber, swollen by continual rains, had left its natural bed and
overflowed the plains, they came down from the top of the Palatine
hill to that part of the water that lay nearest (for they could no
longer advance any farther) and set down the ark upon the flood where
it washed the foot of the hill. The ark floated for some time, and
then, as the waters retired by degrees from their extreme limits, it
struck against a stone and, overturning, threw out the babes, who lay
whimpering and wallowing in the mud. Upon this, a she-wolf that had
just whelped appeared and, her udder being distended with milk, gave
them her paps to suck and with her tongue licked off the mud with
which they were besmeared. In the meantime the herdsmen happened to be
driving their flocks forth to pasture (for the place was now become
passable) and one of them, seeing the wolf thus fondling the babes,
was for some time struck dumb with astonishment and disbelief of what
he saw. Then going away and getting together as many as he could of
his fellows who kept their herds near at hand (for they would not
believe what he said), he led them to see the sight themselves. When
these also drew near and saw the wolf caring for the babes as if they
had been her young and the babes clinging to her as to their mother,
they thought they were beholding a supernatural sight and advanced in
a body, shouting to terrify the creature. The wolf, however, far from
being provoked at the approach of the men, but as if she had been
tame, withdrew gently from the babes and went away, paying little heed
to the rabble of shepherds. Now there was not far off a holy place,
arched over by a dense wood, and a hollow rock from which springs
issued; the wood was said to be consecrated to Pan, and there was an
altar there to that god. To this place, then, the wolf came and hid
herself. The grove, to be sure, no longer remains, but the cave from
which the spring flows is still pointed out, built up against the side
of the Palatine hill on the road which leads to the Circus, and near
it is a sacred precinct in which there is a statue commemorating the
incident; it represents a she-wolf suckling two infants, the figures
being in bronze and of ancient workmanship. This spot is said to have
been a holy place of the Arcadians who formerly settled there with
Evander.

As soon as the beast was gone the herdsmen took up the babes, and
believing that the god desired their preservation, were eager to bring
them up. There was among them the keeper of the royal herds of swine,
whose name was Faustulus, an upright man, who had been in town upon
some necessary business at the time when the deflowering of Ilia and
her delivery were made public. And afterwards, when the babes were
being carried to the river, he had by some providential chance taken
the same road to the Palatine hill and gone along with those who were
carrying them. this man, without giving the least intimation to the
others that he knew anything of the affair, asked that the babes might
be delivered to him, and having received them by general consent, he
carried them home to his wife. And finding that she had just given
birth to a child and was grieving because it was still-born, he
comforted her and gave her these children to substitute in its place,
informing her of every circumstance of their fortune from the
beginning. And as they grew older he gave to one the name of Romulus
and to the other that of Remus. When they came to be men, they showed
themselves both in dignity of aspect and elevation of mind not like
swineherds and neatherds, but such as we might expect those to be who
are born of royal race and are looked upon as the offspring of the
gods; and as such they are still celebrated by the Romans in the hymns
of their country. But their life was that of herdsmen, and they lived
by their own labour, generally upon the mountains in huts which they
built, roofs and all, out of sticks and reeds. One of these, called
the hut of Romulus, remained even to my day on the flank of the
Palatine hill which faces towards the Circus, and it is preserved holy
by those who have charge of these matters; they add nothing to it to
render it more stately, but if any part of it is injured, either by
storms or by the lapse of time, they repair the damage and restore the
hut as nearly as possible to its former condition." - Dionysius of
Halicarnassus, "Roman Antiquities" 1.79.iiii-xi


"At Patavium, there was a well-known prophet called Caius Cornelius,
who was a fellow-citizen and acquaintance of Livy the historian. On
the day of the battle this man happened to be sitting at his prophetic
work and first, according to Livy, he realized that the battle was
taking place at that very moment and said to those who were present
that now was the time when matters were being decided and now the
troops were going into action; then he had a second look and, when he
had examined the signs, he jumped up in a kind of ecstasy and cried
out: 'Caesar, the victory is yours!' Those who were standing by were
amazed at him, but he took the garland from his head and solemnly
swore that he would not wear it again until facts had proved that his
arts had revealed the truth to him. Livy, certainly, is most emphatic
that this really happened." - Plutarch, Parallel Lives, "Caesar" 47

"There is this exceptionally beneficial and fruitful advantage to be
derived from the study of the past, that you see, set in the clear
light of historical truth, examples of every possible type. From these
you may select for yourself and your country what to imitate, and also
what, as being mischievous in its inception and disastrous in its
issues, you are to avoid. Unless, however, I am misled by affection
for my undertaking, there has never existed any commonwealth greater
in power, with a purer morality, or more fertile in good examples; or
any state in which avarice and luxury have been so late in making
their inroads, or poverty and frugality so highly and continuously
honoured, showing so clearly that the less wealth men possessed the
less they coveted. In these latter years wealth has brought avarice in
its train, and the unlimited command of pleasure has created in men a
passion for ruining themselves and everything else through
self-indulgence and licentiousness. But criticisms which will be
unwelcome, even when perhaps necessary, must not appear in the
commencement at all events of this extensive work. We should much
prefer to start with favourable omens, and if we could have adopted
the poets' custom, it would have been much pleasanter to commence with
prayers and supplications to gods and goddesses that they would grant
a favourable and successful issue to the great task before us." -
Livy, History of Rome, Preface

On this day in A.D. 17, the historian Titus Livius (Livy) died,
probably at Padua. In antiquity, Livy was praised by many authors.
Writing during the reign of the emperor Domitian, Quintilian states
that Romans Livy and Sallustius were the equals of the Greek
historians Herodotus of Halicarnassus and Thucydides. This was, at the
end of the first century, the greatest praise possible --- it was only
during the age of the Severan emperors that the Romans had sufficient
cultural self-confidence to bluntly state that they no longer cared
about Greek civilization. When Livy told a story, Quintilian said, it
was clear as crystal, and his speeches were eloquent beyond
description. Quintilian was not the only one to praise the author of
the History of Rome from its foundation. In 79, Pliny the Younger
preferred reading Livy to the spectacle of the explosion of the
Vesuvius. In the Middle Ages and Renaissance, Livy was still admired
for his style, and this has never changed.


Valete bene!

Cato



SOURCES

Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Livy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48412 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters
Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters

"I was always of opinion, Conscript Fathers, as I had often heard my
father observe, that those who cultivated your friendship might indeed
have an arduous service to perform, but would be of all people the
most secure"

SALUSTIUS, The Jurgurtine War, Gutenberg Project, [sn], [sl]


L. Arminius Faustus Consul S.P.D.

I ask all citizes who desires to undertake the office of interpreter
on 2007 to send me your names and language mastered until the ides of
ianuarius (15). The same applies for current interpreters who wants a
new term.

The names will be submited to the first Senate meeting of 2007 (the
initial forecast is by the end of ianurius or begging of february,
still to confirm). The service of the interpreter starts since the
releasing of the result of the Senatusconsultum no the forum of the
main list.

I recall the interpreter has Potestas (granted by the Senate) to afirm
the validation of a version of an official NR text on another
language.

A citizen can send to the consul the name after 15th ianuarius,
however, the name may only be submited to the second senate meeting
the consules have not forecasted yet. So, I urge the citizens to
respect the data, so the term serving can be early.

More information can be seen on the Tabularium on Lex Cornelia de
Linguis Publicis. I recall new languages can be available by a
SenatusConsultum.

On this edictum, I´d like to praise also our WikiMagistrates by such
good tools on NR website that can provide us quick reference to any
piece of legislation we want.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus, Consul

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48413 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 04/07 - Appointment of accensi
Edictum Consular 04/07 - Appointment of accensi

I hereby appoint the following citizens as accensi (consular scribae).

- A. Apolonius Cordus
- M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus
- K. Fabio Buteo Quintilianus
- L. Iunius

Let me add I intend to make the citizen Titus Flavius Aquila accensi
when his probatory period ends.

I took as my personal politic avoiding accensi holding another
curule/saint magistrature, to avoid overloop of Imperium/Potestas.

I advice other magistrates to avoid using NR-Announce to post edictum
about scriba appointments to keep its trafic low.

Soon, the new quaestores will be known and the assignments between the
magistrates will start.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus, Consul

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48414 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 01/07 - Calling for governors
Edictum Consular 01/07 - Calling for governors

"I have often heard that Quintus Maximus, Publius Scipio, and many
other illustrious men of our country, were accustomed to observe,
that, when they looked on the images of their ancestors, they felt
their minds irresistibly excited to the pursuit of honor. Not,
certainly, that the wax, or the shape, had any such influence; but, as
they called to mind their forefathers' achievements, such a flame was
kindled in the breasts of those eminent persons, as could not be
extinguished till their own merit had equaled the fame and glory of
their ancestors."

SALUSTIUS, The Jurgurtine War, Gutenberg Project, [sn], [sl]


L. Arminius Faustus Consul S.P.D.

I ask all citizes who desires to undertake a propraetorship on 2007
(proconsulship in case of consular citizens) to send me your names
until the ides of ianuarius (15). The same applies for current
propraetores or proconsules who wants a new term.

The names will be submited to the first Senate meeting of 2007 (the
initial forecast is by the end of ianurius or begging of february,
still to confirm). The magistrature of the propraetor/proconsul starts
since the releasing of the result of the Senatusconsultum no the forum
of the main list.

I recall a propraetor/proconsul has all Imperium of a consul or a
praetor (for practical purposes it is the same level for governors)
inside the provincia, ie, the geographic limits which a Imperium is
bounded. These offices were born on the Second Punic War, which there
was necessary more ´manpower´ besides the two consules and one
dictator to lead the roman army on the many far provinces where there
were fights.

A citizen can send to the consul the name after 15th ianuarius,
however, the name may only be submited to the second senate meeting
the consules have not forecasted yet. So, I urge the citizens to
respect the data, so the term serving can be early.

The citizens who asked propraetorships/proconsulships to previous
consuls, Modianus and Strabo, don´t need to aks this call. We have the
names.

I urge the citizens to remember the propraetor/proconsul is the first
´spokesman´ of Nova Roma to the new citizens on its own language and
culture. So, if there is an office who can boost the gathering and
keeping of new citizens, this is the office. I pray to Iove Optimus
Maximus to grant our citizens wiseness and a generous heart to serve
NR as governors.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus, Consul

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48415 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Edictum Consular 03/07 - Confirmation of previous edicta about Elec
Edictum Consular 03/07 - Confirmation of previous edicta Elections Results

"Good morals, accordingly, were cultivated in the city and in the
camp. There was the greatest possible concord, and the least possible
avarice. Justice and probity prevailed among the citizens, not more
from the influence of the laws than from natural inclination. They
displayed animosity, enmity, and resentment only against the enemy.
Citizens contended with citizens in nothing but honor. They were
magnificent in their religious services, frugal in their families, and
steady in their friendships."

SALUSTIUS, The Conspiracy of Catiline, Gutenberg Project, [sn], [sl]


L. Arminius Faustus Consul S.P.D.

I confirm and put under my Imperium the edictum issue by Consul P.
Minucia Strabo on 31 december 2006 about Comitia Populi Tributa
results.

*** STARTS STRABI TEXT

Pompeia Minucia Strabo Consul Quiritibus Novae Romae S.P.D.

By my imperium as Consul 2759 and after discussion with both incoming
Consuls 2760, I hereby instruct the Custodes of 2759 to remain in
their current magisterial capacities until they have certified and
delivered to the 2760 Consuls, the outstanding election results of the
Comitia Populi Tributa, OR until Ides Ian 2760, whichever comes first.

The imperium by which this edict receives legal force shall be
uninterrupted as the incoming Consuls adopt its language.

The Custodes elected for 2760 shall take their oaths of office and
assume their duties when instructed by the Consuls 2760 that the terms
of this edict have been resolved.

Given by my hand Dec. 31, 2759 AUC.

*** END

--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus Consul

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48416 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Results Comitia Populi Tributa
L. Arminius Faustus SPD

Consular Pompeia had advanced us the results of the Comitia Populi
before the ending of its term, provided by excelent Custo Titus
Licinius Crassus.

According to Lex Fabia, it is necessary 18 tribes for electing a magistrate.

"As soon as 18 (or, if any tribes are 'void', more than half the
remaining tribes) tribes with the same first (number one) preference
have been counted, that candidate is immediately elected."
(http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Fabia_de_Ratione_Comitiorum_Populi_Tributorum_%28Nova_Roma%29)

So,

Titus Iulius Sabinus, Publius Memmius Albucius, Gaius Iulius Scaurus,
and Sextus Lucilius Tutor are elected quaestores. Lucius Cassius
Cornutus, Gaius Flavius Ductoris are elected diribitores, Gnaeus
Cornelius Lentulus is elected rogator and Appius Galerius Aurelianus
is elected editor commentariorum.

They receive the Potestas from the Comitia Populi Tribute called under
the auspices of the state of the previous consul P. Minucia Strabo.

The new magistrates may proceed its oath and assume full work for the Republic.

My advice for the new quaestores is to join the previous others, and
search the magistrates to assign themselves, the praetores and
aediles. The consules had already choosed its quaestores by personal
agreement between them and the quaestores.

--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus Consul

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pompeia Minucia Strabo <pompeia_minucia_tiberia@...>
Date: 01/01/2007 12:01
Subject: Fwd: Results Comitia Populi Tributa
To: spqr753@..., lafaustus@...


Salvete:

Here is one custode heard from.

Pompeia

Rob Sullivan <rysullivan@...> wrote:
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:11:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Rob Sullivan <rysullivan@...>
Subject: Results Comitia Populi Tributa
To: pompeia_minucia_tiberia@...


Salvete,

In order to expidite matters, I hereby certify the following results
for the second round Comitia Populi Triuta.

Votes from 26 of 35 tribes voting and a quorum reached.

The results are as follows:

For Quaestor

Titus Iulius Sabinus 24 Yes Tribes
Publius Memmius Albucius 23 Yes Tribes
Gaius Iulius Scaurus 22 Yes Tribes
Sextus Lucilius Tutor 23 Yes Tribes

For Diribitor

Lucius Cassius Cornutus 24 Yes Tribes
Gauis Flavius Ductoris 23 Yes Tribes

For Rogator

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus 26 Yes Tribes

For Editor Commentariorum

Appius Galerius Aurelianus 26 Yes Tribes

Vale,

Titus Licinius Crassus
Custos


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--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48417 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: EDICTVM CONSVLARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM - 04/07
Salvete,

I will re-issue edictum 04/07 with the form excellent praetrix
Scholastica is proposing:

***


EDICTVM CONSVLARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM

Ex hoc, cives A. Apolonius Cordus, M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus, K.
Fabio Buteo Quintilianus, L. Iunius accensos creo.

llum ius iurandum poscetur. Hoc edictum ilico valet.

Datum sub manu mea a.d. IV Non. Ian.MMDCCLX.

--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48418 From: nephelecarnal Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Your Hidden, Roman Name
Nephele Carnalis D. Saturio Praeconino spd

As you requested:

ceeijjklmorsy -ejjk +usus
=
M. Coelius Syrus

ceeijjklmorsy -ejjy +usus
=
K. Messius Lurco

You read through all those posts over at UNRV? Glad you were
amused! :)

-- Nephele

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Jibril ibn Najdah ibn Zayd al-
`Attar" <giudo.brunelleschi@...> wrote:
>
> > Salve, Brett. If you care to give me a middle name, as well, I'll
> > see what sort of Roman name I can blanagram for you. If you
care to
> > post your request at the UNRV forum here:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/sgz42
> >
> > I'll also give you your "family history" as a Roman citizen. :)
You
> > can see examples of other names I've done there.
> >
> > -- Nephele
>
>
> Salve Nephele!
>
> After having read through all of the posts on the UNRV forum on this
> matter, I'm quite amused...and curious. When you have a free moment,
> could you kindly see what hidden Roman name you can find in this:
>
> ceeijjklmorsy [[Male]]
>
> Until the next time,
> [pending to be] D. Saturius Praeconinus
> [[PS: My apologies if I got the greeting wrong; Latin is a fairly
new
> realm for me.]]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48419 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office - Quaestor
T. Iulius Sabinus Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit:

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me
defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse
sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus, officio Quaestoris Novae Romae accepto,
deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus
culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me
persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam
defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse,
ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus, officiis muneris Quaestoris me quam optime
functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Quaestoris una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

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I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian
Zavoianu) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear
never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

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Datum sub manu mea, Kal. Ian. MMDCCLX a.U.c
Lucio Arminio Faustis et Tiberio Galerio Paulinis Consulibus

IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48420 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Results of a Meeting of the Collegium Pontificum
Q. Caecilius Metellus M. Lucretio Agricolae Quiritibusque salutem dicit.

> I have a few questions: I understand if it is the case that there is
> no answer yet to some of them.

Well, I'm glad you have questions. If you didn't, I wouldn't be doing
my job! :)

> Does "L. Cereales" mean the Cerealia? Or is it different?

The Ludi Cereales and the Cerealia are two different (although
overlapping) events. The Ludi Cereales are held in honore Cereris from
12 to 19 April. The Cerealia, however, is held on the final day of the
ludi, on 19 April.

You could, theoretically, place the word 'Sacra' before Cerealia (i.e.,
the Sacra relating to Ceres). So we have the Games of Ceres, and the
Sacra for Ceres. The latter is presided over by the Fl. Cerealis; the
former, the Aediles Plebis.

> Is there a timetable for setting dates of movable feriae?

I'm not quite sure how to answer that question. If you're asking if
there is a certain time by which those who should oversee the various
feriae conceptivae should have the dates fixed, the general answer is
yes, but only so far as they should have the dates fixed in reasonable
advance of the feriae. If you're asking if the Collegium would be
imposing a timeframe for doing this on those authorities, I can only say
that I don't intend to convene the Collegium to do such a thing.

> Will the dates follow the table you posted on the wiki
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Feriae ?

For the feriae stativae, yes. The feriae conceptivae, which I believe I
left off that page pro tempore, of course, have some flexibility.

I hope I've sufficiently answered your questions. I know that the
second question has some rather open answers. I'll also try to get some
more information on the various feriae posted to the wiki as soon as
possible.

Valete Optime,

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48422 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: P. Memmius Albucius quaestorian oath
Publius Memmius Albucius Aedili Cytheri, Magistratibus et Quiritibus
s.d.

Ego, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), hac re ipsa
decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae
Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), officio
quaestoris Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae
vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica
privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), religioni
romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum
publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant), officiis
muneris quaestoris me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Quaestoris una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

Datum sub manum mea, Kal. Ian. MMDCCLX a.u.c.
Lucio Arminio Fausti Tiberio Galerio Paulini coss.

=============================================================

I, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe
Puissant) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the roman virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant) swear to uphold and
defend the eeligio romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State religion.

I, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Publius Memmius Albucius (Christophe Puissant) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the gods
and goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given under my hand this first day of January, 2760 a.u.c. in the
consulship of Lucius Arminius Faustus and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48423 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Re: Comitia results - my election
P. Memmius Albucius omnibus quiritibus s.d.

I just want to thank all of you, amici cives, who have thought, voting
for me, that I deserved serving our res publica, among such illustrious
candidates, as quaestor.

Respectfully,

Valete omnes.


P. Memmius Albucius
Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48424 From: M Arminius Maior Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office, Diribitor
Salvete Quirites


I, Marcus Arminius Maior (Marcos Boehme) do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and
to act always in the best interests of the people and
the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Arminius Maior
(Marcos Boehme) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses
of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Marcus Arminius Maior (Marcos Boehme) swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Marcus Arminius Maior (Marcos Boehme) swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Arminius Maior (Marcos Boehme) further swear
to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the
office of Diribitor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, I accept the position of
Diribitor and all the rights, privileges, obligations,
and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given in the Consulship of Lucius Arminius Faustus and
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.


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Ego, Marcus Arminius Maior, hac re ipsa decus Novae
Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque
Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Marcus Arminius Maior, officio Diribitoris Novae
Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae
vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes
Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse
IVRO.

Ego, Marcus Arminius Maior, Religioni Romanae me
fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius
statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti
capiat IVRO.

Ego, Marcus Arminius Maior officiis muneris
Diribitoris me quam optime functurum esse praeterea
IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque
populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus
Diribitoris una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et
officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

Datum sub manum mea, Lucio Arminio Faustis et Tiberio
Galerio Paulinis Consulibus


Valete
Marcus Arminius Maior
Senator Novae Romae

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48425 From: Lucius Cassius Cornutus Date: 2007-01-02
Subject: Oath of Office
Salvete Quirites

I, Lucius Cassius Cornutus (Richard Sciarappa) do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and
to act always in the best interests of the people and
the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Lucius Cassius Cornutus
(Richard Sciarappa) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses
of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Lucius Cassius Cornutus (Richard Sciarappa) swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Lucius Cassius Cornutus (Richard Sciarappa) swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Lucius Cassius Cornutus (Richard Sciarappa) further swear
to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the
office of Diribitor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, I accept the position of
Diribitor and all the rights, privileges, obligations,
and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given in the Consulship of Lucius Arminius Faustus and
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.

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Ego, Lucius Cassius Cornutus, hac re ipsa decus Novae
Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque
Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Lucius Cassius Cornutus, officio Diribitoris Novae
Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae
vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes
Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse
IVRO.

Ego, Lucius Cassius Cornutus, Religioni Romanae me
fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius
statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti
capiat IVRO.

Ego, Lucius Cassius Cornutus officiis muneris
Diribitoris me quam optime functurum esse praeterea
IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque
populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus
Diribitoris una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et
officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

Datum sub manum mea, Lucio Arminio Faustis et Tiberio
Galerio Paulinis Consulibus

Valete
Lucius Cassius Cornutus
Sacerdos Iani
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48426 From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: Edictum Consular 01/07 - Calling for governors
Aurelianus Prop AAe Fausto Consul sal.

I have already forwarded my request to prorogue my term as propraetor to
your colleague, Tb. Galerius Aurelianus on Kal. Ian.

Vale.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48427 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: to: all people of gens Cornelia
Salvete
call to a meeting of the Cornelian Great Counsel .

all the Cornelia and old allis are asked to come.

I Marcus Cornelius Felix am covokeing this meeting both as house priest
and on orders given to me from Sulla a few years ago . If you are not
on the old Gens list and can not get on i have set-up a new one at
yahoo called noblecornelia
I am asking all Pater/materfamilias in the gens to show and anyothers
who wish to move novaroma on the path of the Gods.
the cornlian with the lowest NR civi # ( mine is 290) there at the
meeting will chair the meeting ( Sulla's{ the rules for this were
set-up in 2000) request to me was that the oldest in time person chair
the meeting).

any cornelian who is on this list who is in conact with any conrelian
not on this list is asked to pass on this mesg.

vale Marcus Cornelius felix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48428 From: Gaius Flavius Ductoris Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office, Diribitor, Gaius Flavius Ductoris
Salvete Quirites

I, Gaius Flavius Ductoris (Dean Willis) do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and
to act always in the best interests of the people and
the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Flavius Ductoris (Dean Willis)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses
of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gaius Flavius Ductoris (Dean Willis) swear to
uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State
Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gaius Flavius Ductoris (Dean Willis) swear to
protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Flavius Ductoris (Dean Willis) further swear
to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the
office of Diribitor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, I accept the position of
Diribitor and all the rights, privileges, obligations,
and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given under my hand this third day of January, 2760 a.u.c.
in the Consulship of Lucius Arminius Faustus and
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.

**************************************
G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
Scribe Sodalitas Egressus
http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/ductoris.html

Legio I Australis
Legatus Legionis Legio I Australis
http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/legio.html

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
("If you want peace, prepare for war!")
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48429 From: M·C·C· Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTVM TRIBVNALE DE CREATIONE VIATORVM
Appointment edict templateEx hoc, cives Marcus Iulius Severus (ID#8632) viator creo.

Nullum ius iurandum poscetur.

Hoc edictum ilico valet.

Datum sub manu mea ante diem III Non. Ianuarias MMDCCLX




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By this edict, I appoint citizen Marcus Iulius Severus (ID#8632) as viator.

No oath shall be demanded.

This edict takes effect immediately.

Given under my hand this 3rd day of January,2007 C.E.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Por el presente edicto, yo nombro viator al ciudadano Marcus Iulius Severus (ID#8632).

No se precisa juramento.

Este edicto entra en vigor inmediatamente

Dado a 3 de Enero de 2007 C.E.


MARCVS CVRIATIVS COMPLVTENSIS

TRIBVNVS PLEBIS

L. Arminio Ti. Galerio Cos



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48430 From: Gaius Flavius Ductoris Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
Salvete,

Just to clarify, I did not say that citizens don't have a right to
know who or who hasn't taken an oath nor did I say the practice of
these oaths on a particular list should be stopped. I agree that they
should be open and given so that all citizens should be able to see them.

In this forum there is great opportunity for each individual to give
their separate oaths, we don't have to read them if we don't want to.
The tradition of posting on the ML is fabulous and I am happy to see
it. Citizens choose what information they wish to read.

I am proud to give my oath as Diribitor openly and display it for all
to see. I was disappointed to see the policy on the Announce list
completely ignored by some and found it disrespectful. If the policy
were to change and all oaths to be accepted by the list, I would post
it there too.

Some suggestions I would like to make is that perhaps the oath could
be posted on an oath list or on an oath wikipage or on the
individual's wikipage.

A. Tullia Scholastica many thanks for moderating the lists, it must be
tireless work, so thank you for your efforts.

Multus grates

G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
Scribe Sodalitas Egressus
http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/ductoris.html

Legio I Australis
Legatus Legionis Legio I Australis
http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/legio.html

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
("If you want peace, prepare for war!")
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48431 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Flavius Ductoris"
<dwillis2@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>

[SNIP]

> Some suggestions I would like to make is that perhaps the oath could
> be posted on an oath list or on an oath wikipage or on the
> individual's wikipage.
>

Salve!

Every magistrate (past or present) gets a "bio page" in the wiki. I
think that posting an oath there would be a proper use. Magistrates
are also encouraged to set up "office" pages in the wiki. Oaths,
edicts and anything else official could be posted there. See the
"office" of last year's Curule Aediles for an example:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Officina_Aedilium_Curulum_MMDCCLIX

optime vale!

Agricola

> A. Tullia Scholastica many thanks for moderating the lists, it must be
> tireless work, so thank you for your efforts.
>
> Multus grates
>
> G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
> Scribe Sodalitas Egressus
> http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/ductoris.html
>
> Legio I Australis
> Legatus Legionis Legio I Australis
> http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/legio.html
>
> "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
> ("If you want peace, prepare for war!")
> - Flavius Vegetius Renatus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48432 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM
EDICTUM CONSULARE V-MMDCCLX A.V.C. DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM

Ex Officio Ti.Galerius Paulinus

Reposing special trust and confidence in and reliance on their good
qualities, especially fairness, truth, honor, and ability, I hereby
appoint the following citizens of Nova Roma as

Accensus Maior Gnaeus Iulius Caesar

Accensi

Gaius Iulius Scaurus [consiliarius senior de religione Romana]
A. Apollonius Cordus
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
T. Iulius Sabinus
Q. Iulius Probus
M. Lucretius Agricola
P. Memmius Albucius
Diana Octavia Aventina
Q. Valerius Callidus

Scribae

M. Cornelius Felix [de religione Romana}
Sex. Pontius Pilatus Barbatus
M. Flavius Fides

No oath is required.

This edict takes effect immediately.

Done this day ante diem III Nonas Ianuarias MMDCCLX ab urbe
condita at 11:19am Roman time in the consulship of Lucius Arminius
Faustus and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

3 January 2007
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48434 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE VII-MMDCCLX A.U.C MediaWiki
EDICTUM CONSULARE VII-MMDCCLX A.U.C

Ex Officio Ti. Galerius Paulinus

Continuing the project started during the Consulship of C. Fabius
Buteo Modianus and P. Minucia Strabo


I. A content management and collaboration tool is an ongoing project
for Nova Roma. This tool is MediaWiki, the same software used by
Wikipedia.org. It is located at: http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/

II. Most static content of the web site - that is, almost everything
except citizen profile pages - will be moved into the Wiki as time
permits. The Annales, Tabularium and information on the Religio
Romanum are high-priority projects.

III. The following citizens shall be WikiMagisters (Scribae),
possessing administrative accounts within the Wiki, maintaining user
accounts, creating and maintaining templates, creating and enforcing
style guidelines, and supervising edits of articles:

1. M. Octavius Germanicus, Magister Aranearius.
2. Q. Valerius Callidus
3. T. Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus
4. M. Lucretius Agricola
5.A. Apollonius Cordus

All work for and at the pleasure of the Magister Aranearius.

IV. Any citizen who wishes to participate may do so by signing up
for a Wiki account and joining the mailing list
NRWiki@yahoogroups.com. Before making any major contributions,
please announce on the mailing list which articles you wish to work
on, to avoid duplication of effort.

Done this day of ante diem III Nonas Ianuarias MMDCCLX A.U.C. at
11:25 am, Roman time in the consulship of L. Arminius Faustus and
Ti. Galerius Paulinus



3 January 2007
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48435 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM PRAETORIUM DE SCRIBAE CREATIONE
Ex hoc, nos ambo praetores cives Cn. Equitium Marinum, Cn. Iulium
Caesarem, Ti. Iulium Sabinum scribas ad moderandum Forum Praecipuum
Novae Romae creamus.

Nullum ius iurandum ab eis poscetur.

Postea cives alios ut Foro Praecipuo moderentur et Tabularium curent
creabimus.

Datum sub manibus nostris a.d. III Non. Ian. MMDCCLX A.V.C.

**********************************************************************

By this edict, we the praetors both appoint citizens Cn. Equitius
Marinus, Cn. Iulius Caesar, and T. Iulius Sabinus scribae as
moderators of the Nova Roman Main List.

No oath shall be demanded of them.

Afterward we shall appoint other scribae for the purpose of moderating
the Main List and tending to the Tabularium.

Given under our hands this third day before the Nones of January 2760
from the founding of the City

C. Equitius Cato
A. Tullia Scholastica
Praetores
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48436 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: a.d. III Non. Ian.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem III Nonas Ianuarius; haec dies fastus est.


"But others, who hold that nothing bordering on the fabulous has any
place in historical writing, declare that the exposing of the babes by
the servants in a manner not in accordance with their instructions is
improbable, and they ridicule the tameness of the she-wolf that
suckled the children as a story full of melodramatic absurdity. In
place of this they give the following account of the matter: Numitor,
upon learning that Ilia was with child, procured other new-born
infants and when she had given birth to her babes, he substituted the
former in place of the latter. Then he gave the supposititious
children to those who were guarding her at the time of her delivery to
be carried away, having either secured the loyalty of the guards by
money or contrived this exchange by the help of women; and when
Amulius had received them, he made away with them by some means or
other. As for the babes that were born of Ilia, their grandfather, who
was above all things solicitous for their preservation, handed them
over to Faustulus. This Faustulus, they say, was of Arcadian
extraction, being descended from those Arcadians who came over with
Evander; he lived near the Palatine hill and had the care of Amulius'
possessions, and he was prevailed on by his brother, named Faustinus,
who had the oversight of Numitor's herds that fed near the Aventine
hill, to do Numitor the favour of bringing up the children. They say,
moreover, that the one who nursed and suckled them was not a she-wolf,
but, as may well be supposed, a woman, the wife of Faustulus, named
Laurentia, who, having formerly prostituted her beauty, had received
from the people living round the Palatine hill the nickname of Lupa.
This is an ancient Greek term applied to women who prostitute
themselves for gain; but they are now called by a more respectable
name, hetaerae or "companions." But some who were ignorant of this
invented the myth of the she-wolf, this animal being called in the
Latin tongue lupa. The story continues that after the children were
weaned they were sent by those who were rearing them to Gabii, a town
not far from the Palatine hill, to be instructed in Greek learning;
and there they were brought up by some personal friends of Faustulus,
being taught letters, music, and the use of Greek arms until they grew
to manhood. After their return to their supposed parents the quarrel
arose between them and Numitor's herdsmen concerning their common
pastures; thereupon they beat Numitor's men so that these drove away
their cattle, doing this by Numitor's direction, to the intent that it
might serve as a basis for his complaints and at the same time as an
excuse for the crowd of herdsmen to come to town. When this had been
brought about, Numitor raised a clamour against Amulius, declaring
that he was treated outrageously, being plundered by the herdsmen of
Amulius, and demanding that Amulius, if he was not responsible for any
of this, should delivering to him the herdsman and his sons for trial;
and Amulius, wishing to clear himself of the charge, ordered not only
those who were complained of, but all the rest who were accused of
having been present at the conflict, to come and stand trial before
Numitor. Then, when great numbers came to town together with the
accused, ostensibly to attend the trial, the grandfather of the youths
acquainted them with all the circumstances of their fortune, and
telling them that now, if ever, was the time to avenge themselves, he
straightway made his attack upon Amulius with the crowd of herdsmen.
these, then, are the accounts that are given of the birth and rearing
of the founders of Rome." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, "Roman
Antiquities" 1.84


"His second wife was radiant Themis; she bore the Seasons,
Lawfulness and Justice and blooming Peace,
who watch over the works of mortal men..." - Hesiod, Theogony, 901-3

Open of yourselves, you doors, for mighty Ploutos (Wealth) will enter
in, and with Ploutos comes jolly Euphrosyne (Mirth) and gentle Eirene
(Peace). " - Homer's Epigrams XV

"And with a heart unsullied labours for Eirene, the city's friend." -
Pindar, Odes Olympian 4

"How far peace outweighs war in benefits to man; Eirene (Peace), the
chief friend and cherisher of the Mousai (Muses); Eirene (Peace), the
enemy of revenge, lover of families and children, patroness of wealth.
Yet these blessings we viciously neglect, embrace wars; man with man,
city with city fights, the strong enslaves the weak." - Euripides,
Suppliant Women 484

"The Horai, as they are called, to each of them, according as her name
indicates, was given [assigned by Zeus and Hera] the ordering and
adornment of life, so as to serve to the greatest advantage of
mankind; for there is nothing which is better to build a life of
felicity than obedience to law (Eunomia) and justice (Dike) and peace
(Eirene)." - Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 5.72.5

Today is held in honor of the goddess Pax. On the Campus Martius
(Field of Mars, the god of war), she had a minor sanctuary called the
Ara Pacis, dedicated to her on January 30, 9 B.C. Her temple was on
the Forum Pacis (Templum Placis) built on the site of a meat market by
Vespasian, which was dedicated in A.D. 75. She was depicted in art
with olive branches, a cornucopia and a sceptre. Pax became
celebrated (in both senses of the word) as Pax Romana and Pax Augusta
from the 2nd century B.C.

In Greek mythology, she was Eirene or Irene ("peace"), daughter of
Zeus and Themis, one of the first generation of Horae. The Horae (the
Hours, or Seasons) were Pax and her sisters Lawfulness, Wisdom and
Order (Eunomia) and Justice (Justitia/Dike). are sometimes considered
to be the three aspects of Themis. As goddesses of the seasons, they
brought order to nature. Eirene was the personification of peace and
wealth and was depicted in art as a beautiful young woman carrying a
cornucopia, sceptre and a torch or rhyton.


Valete bene!

Cato



SOURCES

Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Hesiod, Pindar, Homer, Diodorus Siculus,
Euripides, Wikipedia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48437 From: Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office
I, Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Curule Aedile to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Curule Aedile and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


vale bene,
Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege





Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege
Provincial Sacerdos
Legatus Internis Rebus Provincia Dacia.

Qui dedit beneficium taceat; narrat qui accepit. (L. Annaeus Seneca)



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48439 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM PRAETORIS GAII EQUITI CATONI
Ex Officio Praetoris Gaii Equiti Catoni

EDICTVM PRAETORIS GAII EQVITI CATONI

De Creatione Scribarum

Ex hoc edicto, cives scribas meos una cum officiis privilegiisque
omnibus praescriptis legibus Novae Romae designo.
Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, Lucius Fidelius Graecus, Sextus Pontius
Pilatus Barbatus et Marcus Lucretius Agricola scribae
creantur. Quidquam ius iurandum non poscentur.

Hoc edictum statim valet.

Datum sub manu mea ante diem III Non. Ian. MMDCCLX ab urbe
condita (anno Domini 2007) Tiberio Galerio Paulino Lucio Arminio
Fausto consulibus.

**********************************************************************

On the Creation of Scribae

I hereby appoint the following citizens as my scribae, together
with all the obligations and privileges prescribed by the laws of Nova
Roma. Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, Lucius Fidelius Graecus, Sextus Pontius
Pilatus Barbatus and Marcus Lucretius Agricola are
appointed scribae. They shall not be required to make any kind of oath.

This edict is effective immediately.

Given under my hand this third day before the Nones of January 2760
a.u.c (AD 2007) in the consulship of Tiberius Galerius Paulinus and
Lucius Arminus Faustus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48440 From: Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: NO SCRIBAE: Re: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCENSOR
Salve Consul!

Just a small reminder, Consuls can only appoint Accensi and not Scribae.

>Scribae
>
>M. Cornelius Felix [de religione Romana}
>Sex. Pontius Pilatus Barbatus
>M. Flavius Fides
>
>No oath is required.
>
>This edict takes effect immediately.
>
>Done this day ante diem III Nonas Ianuarias MMDCCLX ab urbe
>condita at 11:19am Roman time in the consulship of Lucius Arminius
>Faustus and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
>3 January 2007

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Senator, Censorius et Consularis
Accensus LAF
Praeses, Triumvir et Praescriptor Academia Thules ad S.R.A. et N.
Editor-in-Chief, Publisher and Owner of "Roman Times Quarterly"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48441 From: C. Curius Saturninus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Ius Iurandum (Oath of Office) C. Curius Saturninus, Aedilis Plebis
C. Curius Saturninus Quiritibus S.P.D.

Ego, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), hac re ipsa decus Novae
Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae
acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), officio Aedilis Plebis
Novae Romae accepto, Deos Deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae
publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque
vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), Religioni Romanae me
fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me
acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää) officiis muneris Aedilis
Plebis me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram Deis Deabusque Populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Aedilis Plebis una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

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-------------------

I, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko
Sillanpää), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my
public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and
private life.

I, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, C. Curius Saturninus (Mikko Sillanpää), further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Plebeian Aedile
to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Plebeian Aedile and all the rights,
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Sworn this day, January 3rd in the consulship of L. Arminius Faustus
and Ti. Galerius Paulinus.


C. Curius Saturninus

Propraetor Provinciae Thules
Rector Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova

e-mail: c.curius@...
www.academiathules.org
gsm: +358-50-3315279
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48442 From: Robert Marshall Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office!
I,Appius Galerius Aurelianus(Robert Levee)do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma,and to act always in the best
interests of the people and Senate of Nova Roma.

As Editor Commenteriorum of Nova Roma,I,Appius Galerius Aurelianus
(Robert Levee)swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my
public dealings,and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and
private life.

I,Appius Galerius Aurelianus(Robert Levee)swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear to
never act in any way that would threaten it's status as the State
Religion.

I Appius Galerius Aurelianus(Robert Levee)further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Editor
Commentariorum to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma,and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,do I
accept the position of Editor Commentariorum and all the rights
priveledges,obligations,and responsibilities attendent thereto.

Done this day Pridie Nonas Ianvarivs(c)MMDCCLX A.V.C.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48443 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Oath of office of Rogator Cn. Lentulus
OATH OF OFFICE OF ROGATOR CN. CORNELIUS LENTULUS

Avete, Novi Romani Qurites!

Ego, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus (Attila Gonda), hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus, officio _Rogatoris_ Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus, officiis muneris _Rogatoris_ me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus _Rogatoris_ una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO


-ENGLISH VERSION:

I, _Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus (Attila Gonda)_ do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, _Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus_ swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, _Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus_ swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, _Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus_ swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, _Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus_ further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of _Rogator_ to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of _Rogator_ and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Valete, Novi Romani Quirites!

Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
ROGATOR NOVAE ROMAE




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48444 From: Francesco Valenzano Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Week-end gratuito nella Regio IV: Il SAMNIVM
sono liete di invitarvi
Vasto - 27/28 gennaio 2007
WEEK-END NELLA REGIO IV: IL SAMNIUM
Riunione nazionale di Nova Roma e dell'Associazione Pomerium

Tutti i cittadini Nova Romani e i soci dell'Associazione Pomerium sono invitati alla riunione nazionale che si terrà Vasto i prossimi 27 e 28 gennaio 2007 presso l'Hotel Montecarlo.
Avremo modo di conoscerci, discutere idee e proposte, vistare siti archeologici di eccezionale valore.
La partecipazione è completamente gratuita, vitto e alloggio gentilmente offerti dall'Hotel Montecarlo, previa presentazione della tessera di Socio Pomerium o dei dati di iscrizione a Nova Roma. Accompagnatori e coloro che non sono iscritti alle associazioni usufruiranno di un particolare sconto per il pernottamento.

PROGRAMMA
SABATO 27 GENNAIO 2007
h 11,00 - Arrivo e assegnazione camere
h 12,30 - Pranzo in agriturismo (15 euro per pax)
h 15,30 - Visita al Museo Civico di Vasto e ai mosaici delle terme romane
h 21,30 - Saluto delle Associazioni e cena in Hotel
DOMENICA 28 GENNAIO 2007
h 9,00 - Colazione
h 11,00 - Visita al Museo Archeologico Nazionale d'Abruzzo di Chieti e ai siti archeologici limitrofi
h 13,00 - Pranzo al sacco
h 15,00 - Visita al Monte Pallano e alle mura megalitiche
h 18,00 - Ritorno in hotel, eventuale cena e pernotto
Il programma potrebbe subire modifiche che verranno tempestivamente comunicate ai partecipanti via e-mail.

PREZZI
Per Nova Romani e Soci dell'Associazione Pomerium
Vitto e alloggio completamente gratuito previa prenotazione e presentazione della tessera associativa.
Per accompagnatori e non iscritti alle associazioni
Dus deluxe 45,00 euro
Doppia deluxe 68,00 euro
Sconto del 20% per la cena di sabato sera il listino dell'hotel
Si prega di voler comunicare all'indirizzo info@... la propria partecipazione all'evento indicando nome e cognome, numero di tessera Pomerium o nome novaromano, recapito telefonico e tutti i dati necessari per la prenotazione,
entro il 24 gennaio 2007.

COME RAGGIUNGERE VASTO

Hotel Montecarlo ****
ss 16 Adriatica, 256- 66055 Vasto Marina (CH)
0873 / 801355 (4 linee r.a.) fax 0873 / 801257
info@... - www.hotelmontecarlovasto.it
Nelle immediate vicinanze dell'hotel si trovano:
- l'uscita A14 Vasto Sud - 2 km
- la Statale 16 adriatica
- la Stazione ferroviaria Vasto San Salvo - 500 mt

CENNI STORICI
Antico centro frentano, una volta denominato Histonium, il centro abitato di Vasto fu fortificato dai romani. Al tempo della guerra civile, nel 88 a.C., si schierò con Mario e fu assediata ed espugnata da Silla, che la privò della cittadinanza romana, smantellandone completamente le mura. Il periodo buio durò solo 10 anni; con la morte di Silla, Vasto recuperò i privilegi persi e, grazie all'intensa attività del suo porto "La Buca", prosperò sviluppando i commerci nel bacino dell'Adriatico.
Pestilenze (79 d.C.) e calamità naturali caratterizzano periodi di appannamento dell'antica Histonium. Con Augusto e successivamente nel 410 con la discesa di Aleramo in Italia, l'importanza e la floridità di Vasto incominciano un lento declino, culminante nell'802 con l'assalto di Aymone di Dordona, che, alla testa di soldatesche di Pipino il Breve, la distrusse.
Il Museo Archeologico di Vasto ha sede nelle sale del Palazzo D'Avalos in Piazza Pudente. Al piano terra vi è la sezione archeologica divisa in 5 sale, con sarcofaghi, sculture, anfore, monili, armi, monete, iscrizioni osche e latine e ceramiche che testimoniano la civiltà italica e romana fino all'Alto Medioevo
A Chieti vivevano comunità umane già in epoca preistorica e sicuramente sorge sull'antica Teate, capoluogo dei Marrucini dopo la caduta del pi?ico centro di Touta Marouca, alle falde della Maiella. In epoca romana, Teate assunse notevole importanza in seguito all'apertura della via Tiburtina Valeria, tanto da raggiungere, in periodo imperiale, una popolazione di 60.000 abitanti e da essere dotata di numerosi templi, di terme e di un teatro, le cui rovine si possono ammirare ancora oggi.
Una visita alla Chieti antica non può che iniziare dalla Civitella, il quartiere dove sorgeva l'antica acropoli, composto da tre nuclei: l'Anfiteatro, l'impianto fondale e il portico monumentale. Il sito archeologico permette di ammirare i resti dell'anfiteatro e della Porticus vicina all'ingresso settentrionale nonchè la fondazione dell'edificio templare demolito per la costruzione del complesso monumentale di età giulio-claudia.
Da visitare anche i tempietti romani innalzati su resti di costruzioni cultuali italiche, la cisterna romana del I sec. d.C., le terme romane con pavimenti a mosaico, il Frigidarium, Tepidarium e Calidarium e le botteghe dei commercianti.
Il Museo Archeologico Nazionale d'Abruzzo presso l'ex Palazzo frigeri possiede una delle raccolte archeologiche pi?ortanti d'Europa. Si compone in vari settori, da quello preistorico e protostorico a quelli concernenti le antichità italiche e romane. Di notevole interesse sono i rilievi funerari, il letto bronzeo, una colossale statua di Ercole ed una Afrodite. Il pezzo più conosciuto è la statua del Guerriero di Capestrano, datata VI sec. a.C. e alta oltre 2 mt. Essa doveva rappresentare la tompa del capo Nevio Pompuledeio e testimonierebbe l'istituzione della monarchia già nel VI secolo.


Su un imponente crinale che domina la Val di Sangro, sorgono le maestose mura megalitiche in opera poligonale di Monte Pallano, lunghe 160 metri e alte 5, con 3 strette porte. La fortificazione eretta probabilmente dagli antichi Lucani del Sangro, conteneva varie presenze al suo interno, tra cui un foro porticato circondato da ambienti.

Si ringrazia per il gentile invito e la preziosa collaborazione l'Hotel Montecarlo e Roberto Pitaccio.

Vi aspettiamo numerosi!





Per informazioni:
Associazione culturale Pomerium
c/o Valenzano - Via E. Fieramosca, 178- 70100 Bari
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48445 From: Appius Iulius Priscus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: a.d. III Non. Ian.
Ap. Iul. Priscus C. Equitio Catoni omnibus SPD

Ut constat in my greek dictionary Pluton is Hades, the lord of the underworld, and Ploutos (Plutus) the richness. Accordingly, the former extracted his name from being the "keeper of buried treasures". My question is: were they treated as the same god, both mithologically and ritually? The confusion in latin is even bigger, as Dis means both Hades and rich. From what I saw in my latin dictionary, Dis was only treated as the ruler of Avernus, Pluto being the latter's synonym, and Plutus being solely the god of richness. I make the same question as I did for the greek names. Maybe someone can help.

Valete

Ap. Iul. Priscus





gequitiuscato <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem III Nonas Ianuarius; haec dies fastus est.

"But others, who hold that nothing bordering on the fabulous has any
place in historical writing, declare that the exposing of the babes by
the servants in a manner not in accordance with their instructions is
improbable, and they ridicule the tameness of the she-wolf that
suckled the children as a story full of melodramatic absurdity. In
place of this they give the following account of the matter: Numitor,
upon learning that Ilia was with child, procured other new-born
infants and when she had given birth to her babes, he substituted the
former in place of the latter. Then he gave the supposititious
children to those who were guarding her at the time of her delivery to
be carried away, having either secured the loyalty of the guards by
money or contrived this exchange by the help of women; and when
Amulius had received them, he made away with them by some means or
other. As for the babes that were born of Ilia, their grandfather, who
was above all things solicitous for their preservation, handed them
over to Faustulus. This Faustulus, they say, was of Arcadian
extraction, being descended from those Arcadians who came over with
Evander; he lived near the Palatine hill and had the care of Amulius'
possessions, and he was prevailed on by his brother, named Faustinus,
who had the oversight of Numitor's herds that fed near the Aventine
hill, to do Numitor the favour of bringing up the children. They say,
moreover, that the one who nursed and suckled them was not a she-wolf,
but, as may well be supposed, a woman, the wife of Faustulus, named
Laurentia, who, having formerly prostituted her beauty, had received
from the people living round the Palatine hill the nickname of Lupa.
This is an ancient Greek term applied to women who prostitute
themselves for gain; but they are now called by a more respectable
name, hetaerae or "companions." But some who were ignorant of this
invented the myth of the she-wolf, this animal being called in the
Latin tongue lupa. The story continues that after the children were
weaned they were sent by those who were rearing them to Gabii, a town
not far from the Palatine hill, to be instructed in Greek learning;
and there they were brought up by some personal friends of Faustulus,
being taught letters, music, and the use of Greek arms until they grew
to manhood. After their return to their supposed parents the quarrel
arose between them and Numitor's herdsmen concerning their common
pastures; thereupon they beat Numitor's men so that these drove away
their cattle, doing this by Numitor's direction, to the intent that it
might serve as a basis for his complaints and at the same time as an
excuse for the crowd of herdsmen to come to town. When this had been
brought about, Numitor raised a clamour against Amulius, declaring
that he was treated outrageously, being plundered by the herdsmen of
Amulius, and demanding that Amulius, if he was not responsible for any
of this, should delivering to him the herdsman and his sons for trial;
and Amulius, wishing to clear himself of the charge, ordered not only
those who were complained of, but all the rest who were accused of
having been present at the conflict, to come and stand trial before
Numitor. Then, when great numbers came to town together with the
accused, ostensibly to attend the trial, the grandfather of the youths
acquainted them with all the circumstances of their fortune, and
telling them that now, if ever, was the time to avenge themselves, he
straightway made his attack upon Amulius with the crowd of herdsmen.
these, then, are the accounts that are given of the birth and rearing
of the founders of Rome." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, "Roman
Antiquities" 1.84

"His second wife was radiant Themis; she bore the Seasons,
Lawfulness and Justice and blooming Peace,
who watch over the works of mortal men..." - Hesiod, Theogony, 901-3

Open of yourselves, you doors, for mighty Ploutos (Wealth) will enter
in, and with Ploutos comes jolly Euphrosyne (Mirth) and gentle Eirene
(Peace). " - Homer's Epigrams XV

"And with a heart unsullied labours for Eirene, the city's friend." -
Pindar, Odes Olympian 4

"How far peace outweighs war in benefits to man; Eirene (Peace), the
chief friend and cherisher of the Mousai (Muses); Eirene (Peace), the
enemy of revenge, lover of families and children, patroness of wealth.
Yet these blessings we viciously neglect, embrace wars; man with man,
city with city fights, the strong enslaves the weak." - Euripides,
Suppliant Women 484

"The Horai, as they are called, to each of them, according as her name
indicates, was given [assigned by Zeus and Hera] the ordering and
adornment of life, so as to serve to the greatest advantage of
mankind; for there is nothing which is better to build a life of
felicity than obedience to law (Eunomia) and justice (Dike) and peace
(Eirene)." - Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 5.72.5

Today is held in honor of the goddess Pax. On the Campus Martius
(Field of Mars, the god of war), she had a minor sanctuary called the
Ara Pacis, dedicated to her on January 30, 9 B.C. Her temple was on
the Forum Pacis (Templum Placis) built on the site of a meat market by
Vespasian, which was dedicated in A.D. 75. She was depicted in art
with olive branches, a cornucopia and a sceptre. Pax became
celebrated (in both senses of the word) as Pax Romana and Pax Augusta
from the 2nd century B.C.

In Greek mythology, she was Eirene or Irene ("peace"), daughter of
Zeus and Themis, one of the first generation of Horae. The Horae (the
Hours, or Seasons) were Pax and her sisters Lawfulness, Wisdom and
Order (Eunomia) and Justice (Justitia/Dike). are sometimes considered
to be the three aspects of Themis. As goddesses of the seasons, they
brought order to nature. Eirene was the personification of peace and
wealth and was depicted in art as a beautiful young woman carrying a
cornucopia, sceptre and a torch or rhyton.

Valete bene!

Cato

SOURCES

Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Hesiod, Pindar, Homer, Diodorus Siculus,
Euripides, Wikipedia





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48446 From: Ian McKay Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter
Citizens of Nova Roma;

A suggestion has been made that NR should again print a hard -copy newsletter. The reasons for this suggestion are indicated below:

--Some action / opportunity needs to be taken / offered to promote NR in a more tangible way to each and every citizen. It is desired that current citizens be inspired to continue as citizens of Nova Roma, and in turn to tell others who may be interested in Ancient Rome to consider applying for citizenship;

--A hard-cover periodical in the hands of those interested may well be that single item that keeps many of our citizens in contact with Nova Roma in a physical way;

--If such a project were undertaken it would have to be supported by funding over and above a set subscription price for the newsletter by possibly 10 to 15%. This funding would have to be approved by the NR Senate. In the past, a three sheet -six page newsletter was $12.00 (U.S.) for a year (12 issues). It is estimated that considering printing and postage the subscription rate would be between $12 to $14 (U.S.) for 12 issues, $10 to $12 (U.S.) for 10 issues and $4 to $6 (U.S.) for four issues in the United States. The cost for overseas citizens would be more because of the increased postage rates;

--The content of such a newsletter would not be time-restrictive in the short term local times. In other words, announcements for coming activities within a few months of the issue date would be carried on the internet rather than in such a newsletter.

Please consider the above, and if you feel that you would want to subscribe to such a newsletter please contact me at the below E-Mail address;

Adjutant42@webtv,net

with your responses both positive and negative. I would ask that all NR Citizens and Citizen applicants give this idea some careful consideration, as Nova Roma is your Republic, and as such your ideas , wishes, and suggestions are precious to those who serve at your pleasure.

Respectfully

Marcus Audens
Editor Commentariorum Senoris



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48447 From: Titus Arminius Genialis Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: RES: [Nova-Roma] Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters
T Arminius Genialis Consulis L Arminio Fausto SPD

I would like to formally express my desire to undertake the office of
Interpreter for Portuguese language on 2760.


TITUS ARMINIUS GENIALIS
Legatus Externis Rebus Brasiliae Provinciae
Scriba Propraetoris ad Latinitatem Brasiliae Provinciae
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De: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de
Lucius Arminius Faustus
Enviada em: terça-feira, 2 de janeiro de 2007 10:19
Para: NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com; nova-roma
Assunto: [Nova-Roma] Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters

Edictum Consular 02/07 - Calling for interpreters

"I was always of opinion, Conscript Fathers, as I had often heard my
father observe, that those who cultivated your friendship might indeed
have an arduous service to perform, but would be of all people the
most secure"

SALUSTIUS, The Jurgurtine War, Gutenberg Project, [sn], [sl]


L. Arminius Faustus Consul S.P.D.

I ask all citizes who desires to undertake the office of interpreter
on 2007 to send me your names and language mastered until the ides of
ianuarius (15). The same applies for current interpreters who wants a
new term.

The names will be submited to the first Senate meeting of 2007 (the
initial forecast is by the end of ianurius or begging of february,
still to confirm). The service of the interpreter starts since the
releasing of the result of the Senatusconsultum no the forum of the
main list.

I recall the interpreter has Potestas (granted by the Senate) to afirm
the validation of a version of an official NR text on another
language.

A citizen can send to the consul the name after 15th ianuarius,
however, the name may only be submited to the second senate meeting
the consules have not forecasted yet. So, I urge the citizens to
respect the data, so the term serving can be early.

More information can be seen on the Tabularium on Lex Cornelia de
Linguis Publicis. I recall new languages can be available by a
SenatusConsultum.

On this edictum, I´d like to praise also our WikiMagistrates by such
good tools on NR website that can provide us quick reference to any
piece of legislation we want.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus, Consul

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48448 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter
Senator Audens wrote:

> It is estimated that considering printing and postage
> the subscription rate would be between $12 to $14 (U.S.) for
> 12 issues, $10 to $12 (U.S.) for 10 issues and $4 to $6 (U.S.)
> for four issues in the United States. The cost for
> overseas citizens would be more because of
> the increased postage rates;

> Please consider the above, and if you feel that you would want to
> subscribe to such a newsletter please contact me at the below E-Mail address;

When considering this question, I'd like to add some more information: the
subscription would be done from the web site via Paypal.com, and you'd be
able to see in your profile when it expires. I have pledged to build such
a tool if a printed newsletter is revived. So, knowing that subscribing
would be a quick process that doesn't involve putting a check in an
envelope, how many of us would subscribe?

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Gracchus
octavius@... * http://www.graveyards.com

-"Apes don't read philosophy."
-"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it! Let me correct
you on a few things: Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of
Buddhism is not 'every man for himself'. And the London Underground is
not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up."
-from "A Fish Called Wanda"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48449 From: g_iulius_scaurus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Quaestorian Oath
Scaurus Quiritibus SPD.

Ego, Gaius Iulius Scaurus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro
populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Iulius Scaurus, officio Quaestoris Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae
in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica
privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Iulius Scaurus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et
numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Iulius Scaurus, officiis muneris Quaestoris me quam optime functurum esse
praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate
favoreque eorum, ego munus Quaestoris una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis
comitantibus ACCIPIO.

__________________________________________________________

I, Gaius Iulius Scaurus (Gregory Rose) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of
Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova
Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Iulius Scaurus (Gregory Rose) swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in
my public and private life.

I, Gaius Iulius Scaurus (Gregory Rose) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as
the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its
status as the State Religion.

I, Gaius Iulius Scaurus (Gregory Rose) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of
Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Iulius Scaurus (Gregory Rose) further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses
of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and
all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete.

Scaurus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48450 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Withdrawal Of Two Edicts
Ex Officio Ti. Galerius Paulinus

I withdraw the following edicts

V-MMDCCLX A.U.C. DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM

and

VI-MMDCCLX A.U.C on the Quaestor assignment for 2760. A.U.C

I made some mistakes for which only I am responsible.

They will be reissued by the end of the week.

Done this day of ante diem III Nonas Ianuarias MMDCCLX A.U.C. at
10:45 pm, Roman time in the consulship of L. Arminius Faustus and
Ti. Galerius Paulinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48451 From: Gregory Rose Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Re: NO SCRIBAE: Re: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCE
Scaurus Quintiliano SPD.

Amice, scripist:

> Just a small reminder, Consuls can only appoint Accensi and not Scribae.

I would argue that in accordance with a fundamental principle of Roman
law an imperium maius, like that of a consul, entails all the powers
included in any lesser imperium. Hence, even if the constitution
mentions accensi, the fact of imperium maius permits the appointment
of consualr scribae.

Vale.

Scaurus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48452 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE VI-MMDCCLX A.U.C
EDICTUM CONSULARE VI-MMDCCLX A.U.C

Ex Officio Ti. Galerius Paulinus

The following are the Quaestor assignment for 2760. A.U.C.

Quaestor Gn. Equitius Marinus is assigned to Consul L. Arminius
Faustus

Quaestor G. Marius Maior is assigned to Consul Ti. Galerius Paulinus

Quaestor G. Iulius Scaurus is assigned to Praetor G. Equitius Cato

Quaestor Q. Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus is assigned to
Praetrix A. Tullia Scholastica

Quaestor P. Memmius Albucius is assigned to Curule Aedile Iulia
Caesar Cytheris Aege

Quaestor T. Iulius Sabinus is assigned to Curule Aedile Tita Artoria
Marcella

Quaestor Q. Iulius Probus is assigned to Plebeian Aedile C. Curius
Saturninus

Sex Lucilius Tutor is assigned to the Plebeian Aedile not yet
elected and will assist the Consuls in the interim.

The oath of office for magistrates, as recorded here,is required
before they take up their duties

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Iunia_de_Iusiurando_%28Nova_Roma%29.


Done this day Pridie Nonas Ianuarias MMDCCLX A.U.C. at 3:00 am,
Roman time in the Consulship of L. Arminius Faustus and Ti.
Galerius Paulinus

4 January 2007
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48453 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE V-MMDCCLX A.V.C. DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM
EDICTUM CONSULARE V-MMDCCLX A.V.C. DE CREATIONE ACCENSORVM

Ex Officio Ti. Galerius Paulinus

Reposing special trust and confidencein and reliance
on their good qualities, especially fairness, truth, honor,
and ability, I hereby appoint the following citizens as

Accensi Maior Gnaeus Iulius Caesar

Accensi

Gaius Iulius Scaurus
[consiliarius senior de religione Romana]

A. Apollonius Cordus
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
T. Iulius Sabinus
Q. Iulius Probus
M. Lucretius Agricola
P. Memmius Albucius
Diana Octavia Aventina
Q. Valerius Callidus

Scribae

M. Cornelius Felix [de religione Romana}
Sex. Pontius Pilatus Barbatus
M. Flavius Fides

No oath is required.

This edict takes effect immediately.

Done this day Pridie Nonas Ianuarias MMDCCLX A.U.C.
at 3:00 am, Roman time in the consulship of
L. Arminius Faustus and Ti. Galerius Paulinus

4 January 2007
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48454 From: Marcus Audens Date: 2007-01-03
Subject: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter / Pay Pal offer
Censor Octavius;

Thank you for your addition to the questionnaire. I don't use PayPal and I had forgotten your pledge / offer. That makes the package even more inviting.

Respectfully;

Marcus Audens



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48455 From: Stefn Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Hard-Copy Nova Roma Newsletter
Ave Audens, valetudo quod fortuna;

I have been a subscriber in the past and shall be again.

I will also place an item for auction at ebay, all proceeds of which
will be sent to benefit a printed newsletter should we look to go
beyond discussing such.

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In amicitia quod fides -
Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
Civis, Patrician, Paterfamilias et Lictor
Quaestor Emeritus, Rogator Suffragia - Emeritus
Diribitor Emeritus, Legate Provincialis - Emeritus

Religio Septentrionalis - Poet et Flamen Privatus

Dominus Sodalitas Coquuorum et Cerevisiae Coctorum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq/

http://anheathenreader.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/stefnullarsson
http://www.catamount-grange-hearth.org/
http://www.cafepress.com/catamountgrange
--
May the Holy Powers smile on our efforts.
May the Spirits of our family lines nod in approval.
May we be of Worth to our fellow Nova Romans.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48456 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: posting of magisterial oaths
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Flavio Ductori quiritibus S.P.D.
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> Salvete,
>
> Just to clarify, I did not say that citizens don't have a right to
> know who or who hasn't taken an oath nor did I say the practice of
> these oaths on a particular list should be stopped. I agree that they
> should be open and given so that all citizens should be able to see them.
>
> ATS: It seems that I did not make myself sufficiently clear in my
> previous post. What you said in effect, Ductoris, was that those citizens who
> do not receive the Main List or who aren¹t able or inclined to track down
> biography pages on the wiki should not be allowed to see who has taken the
> oath of office, or much of anything else, since virtually all posts on the
> Announcements list are duplicates of those on the ML, and such duplicates
> annoyed you. Evidently I didn¹t make it clear enough that some citizens DO
> NOT RECEIVE THE MAIN LIST, and have no other way of knowing what is going on
> in the central administration unless they learn of these matters on the
> Announcements list. Now, I happen to think that our world-class Latinist,
> Avitus, who happens not to receive the ML, but does receive the Announcements
> list, and any other citizen in the same situation deserves to know what is
> going on, and has the right to see all proposed laws, comitia calls,
> magisterial oaths, and what have you of proper NR business which appears on
> the Announcements list and is copied to the ML.
>
> In this forum there is great opportunity for each individual to give
> their separate oaths, we don't have to read them if we don't want to.
> The tradition of posting on the ML is fabulous and I am happy to see
> it. Citizens choose what information they wish to read.
>
> ATS: Yes.
>
> I am proud to give my oath as Diribitor openly and display it for all
> to see. I was disappointed to see the policy on the Announce list
> completely ignored by some and found it disrespectful.
>
> ATS: The policy is not set in stone; it was changed to this
> Œdiscouragement¹ only this year, if memory serves. In the interest of
> informing the citizens, it should be as it was. Secondly, while this may not
> occur to you, it happens that some of us do not care to publish our macro
> names in front of 1300 people, over half of whom are by definition not
> citizens of Nova Roma, and many of whom are very fickle. Many stick around
> for a few hours or days, and get bored; they disappear...but in the meantime,
> have access to someone¹s real name, and can misuse that information. Perhaps
> it also didn¹t occur to you that this is dangerous, especially to women.
> Unfortunately, we are compelled to list our macro names, but nothing compels
> us to do so on a webpage or on a huge mailing list for the entertainment of
> spammers and/or sexual predators. Bad enough that we have to do so on the
> smaller Announcements list. That fact alone may be keeping some fine people
> from seeking office here.
>
> If the policy
> were to change and all oaths to be accepted by the list, I would post
> it there too.
>
> ATS: That WAS the policy, and if I have anything to say about it (as I
> should given the office I now hold), it will change.
>
> Some suggestions I would like to make is that perhaps the oath could
> be posted on an oath list or on an oath wikipage or on the
> individual's wikipage.
>
> ATS: Webpages are fine places for people to list their macro names so
> creeps can track them down. Moreover, who would deliberately read just the
> oaths? If they come with the mail, they will be read, or read enough to see
> who is turning up to do his or her duty, and that is a good thing.
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica many thanks for moderating the lists, it must be
> tireless work, so thank you for your efforts.
>
> ATS: Fortunately, most of the lists I moderate either don¹t require
> message moderation or have much lower volume and, shall we say, typically more
> mature behavior than has been known to occur here upon occasion.
>
> Multus grates
>
> G. Flavius Ouf. Ductoris
> Scribe Sodalitas Egressus
> http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/ductoris.html
>
> Legio I Australis
> Legatus Legionis Legio I Australis
> http://au.geocities.com/dkwillis.rm/legio.html
>
> "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
> ("If you want peace, prepare for war!")
> Flavius Vegetius Renatus


Vale, et valete.

>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48457 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Religio & Women new book
M.Hortensia Quiritibus spd;
with the holidays over I just wanted to post a new book that is
out:
"Women's Religious Activity in the Roman Republic" by Celia E. Schultz
University of Carolina Press, 2006
It's extremely interesting & uses up-to-date methods:
inscriptions, votive figures, plus history to analyze what really went
on, dispelling passe ideas from the past. You'll find women
worshipping Hercules, men worshipping Bona Dea, a discussion of the
importance of flaminica...
I'll put it in the Wiki as well, under "W" for women
bene valete
M. Hortensia Maior
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48458 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Salvete,

One of the duties that I had in 2006 was to keep track of the reasons why people/citizens unsubscribed from the main List. Anyone who unsubscribe received an automated message from me (sent on behalf of and with permission from the Praetores) asking for feedback. The results surprised me.

Like me, I think most of you thought/think that most unsubscriptions are caused by bickering on the ML or that the topics are mostly about NR and not ancient Rome. That now seems not to be true at all. I received about 50 emails from people/citizens who unsubscribed. Only 2 or 3 complained of bickering/infighting. All of the others either said that they

-did not have time for NR ;
-the volume of emails was too much for their inbox;
-the volume of emails were too many to read;
-the volume of emails were too many to read because he/she was not a native English speaker.

Surprising huh?
Valete,
Diana

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48459 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Salvete,

Excellent work, Diana Aventina!
I´d advice to make a report and put on NR Tabularium. This is a
feeding all magistrates should see.

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus CSL

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius


2007/1/4, Diana Octavia Aventina <dianaaventina@...>:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salvete,
>
> One of the duties that I had in 2006 was to keep track of the reasons why people/citizens unsubscribed from the main List. Anyone who unsubscribe received an automated message from me (sent on behalf of and with permission from the Praetores) asking for feedback. The results surprised me.
>
> Like me, I think most of you thought/think that most unsubscriptions are caused by bickering on the ML or that the topics are mostly about NR and not ancient Rome. That now seems not to be true at all. I received about 50 emails from people/citizens who unsubscribed. Only 2 or 3 complained of bickering/infighting. All of the others either said that they
>
> -did not have time for NR ;
> -the volume of emails was too much for their inbox;
> -the volume of emails were too many to read;
> -the volume of emails were too many to read because he/she was not a native English speaker.
>
> Surprising huh?
> Valete,
> Diana
>
>
--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48460 From: flavius leviticus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Aquila(Eagle)!
Citizens of Nova Roma
Salvete,S.P.D.,

I wish to thank all of you in supporting me and encouraging me in my new position as your Editor Commentariorum of the Nova Roma newsletter Aquila.
I would like to thank all past friends and contributors to our periodical,and look forward to work with all of you in the coming year.
I would also like to thank all the past Editors such as Helena Mater Galeria,
and special thanks to our recent Editor ,Senator Marcus Audens.
I am a true fan of Senator Auden's column;"The Rhine River Patrol",and hope that he will continue to write this wonderful tale for us who enjoy it so much.
Those are some large sandals to fill.

I will be issuing a call to tap the great creative resources of Nova Roma,to take this periodical to greater heights, that all Romans can be truly proud of.As I am a retired person, I will be devoting myself full time to this endeavor.
Come along and let us all enjoy this journey together.Valete omnes.

Appius Galerius Aurelianus
Editor Commentariorum
Aquila,Nova Roma






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48461 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: prid. Non.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est pridie Nonas Ianuarius; haec dies comitialis est.

"I am now going to relate the events that happened at the very time of
its founding; for this part of my account still remains. When Numitor,
upon the death of Amulius, had resumed his rule and had spent a little
time in restoring the city from its late disorder to its former
orderly state, he presently thought of providing an independent rule
for the youths by founding another city. At the same time, the
inhabitants being much increased in number, he thought it good policy
to get rid of some part of them, particularly of those who had once
been his enemies, lest he might have cause to suspect any of his
subjects. And having communicated this plan to the youths and gained
their approval, he gave them, as a district to rule, the region where
they had been brought up in their infancy, and, for subjects, not only
that part of the people which he suspected of a design to begin
rebellion anew, but also any who were willing to migrate voluntarily.
Among these, as is likely to happen when a city sends out a colony,
there were great numbers of the common people, but there were also a
sufficient number of the prominent men of the best class, and of the
Trojan element all those who were esteemed the noblest in birth, some
of whose posterity remained even to my day, consisting of about fifty
families. The youths were supplied with money, arms and corn, with
slaves and beasts of burden and everything else that was of use in the
building of a city. After they had led their people out of Alba and
intermingled with them the local population that still remained in
Pallantium and Saturnia, they divided the whole multitude into two
parts. This they did in the hope of arousing a spirit of emulation,
so that through their rivalry with each other their tasks might be the
sooner finished; however, it produced the greatest of evils, discord.
For each group, exalting its own leader, extolled him as the proper
person to command them all; and the youths themselves, being now no
longer one in mind or feeling it necessary to entertain brotherly
sentiments toward each, since each expected to command the other,
scorned equality and craved superiority. For some time their ambitions
were concealed, but later they burst forth on the occasion which I
shall now describe. They did not both favour the same site for the
building of the city; for Romulus proposed to settle the Palatine
hill, among other reasons, because of the good fortune of the place
where they had been preserved and brought up, whereas Remus favoured
the place that is now named after him Remoria. And indeed this place
is very suitable for a city, being a hill not far from the Tiber and
about thirty stades from Rome. From this rivalry their unsociable love
of rule immediately began to disclose itself; for on the one who now
yielded the victor would inevitably impose his will on all occasions
alike.

Meanwhile, some time having elapsed and their discord in no degree
abating, the two agreed to refer the matter to their grandfather and
for that purpose went to Alba. He advised them to leave it to the
decision of the gods which of them should give his name to the colony
and be its leader. And having appointed for them a day, he ordered
them to place themselves early in the morning at a distance from one
another, in such stations as each of them should think proper, and
after first offering to the gods the customary sacrifices, to watch
for auspicious birds; and he ordered that he to whom the more
favourable birds first appeared should rule the colony. The youths,
approving of this, went away and according to their agreement appeared
on the day appointed for the test. Romulus chose for his station the
Palatine hill, where he proposed settling the colony, and Remus the
Aventine hill adjoining it, or, according to others, Remoria; and a
guard attended them both, to prevent their reporting things otherwise
than as they appeared. When they had taken their respective stations,
Romulus, after a short pause, from eagerness and jealousy of his
brother, — though possibly Heaven was thus directing him, — even
before he saw any omen at all, sent messengers to his brother desiring
him to come immediately, as if he had been the first to see some
auspicious birds. But while the persons he sent were proceeding with
no great haste, feeling ashamed of the fraud, six vultures appeared to
Remus, flying from the right; and he, seeing the birds, rejoiced
greatly. And not long afterwards the men sent by Romulus took him
thence and brought him to the Palatine hill. When they were together,
Remus asked Romulus what birds he had been the first to see, and
Romulus knew not what to answer. But thereupon twelve auspicious
vultures were seen flying; and upon seeing these he took courage, and
pointing them out to Remus, said: "Why do you demand to know what
happened a long time ago? For surely you see these birds yourself."
But Remus was indignant and complained bitterly because he had been
deceived by him; and he refused to yield to him his right to the
colony." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, "Roman Antiquities" 1.85-86


"You should know that the sea is separated from the earth. When
Jupiter claimed the land of Etruria for himself, he decided and
commanded the fields to be surveyed and the lands marked out. Knowing
the covetousness of man and his worldly greed, he wanted the
boundaries of everything to be marked by boundary stones. Those which
at any time anyone has placed because of the greed of this eighth -
almost the latest - saeculum, arrogating to themselves licence, men
with wrongful deceit will violate, touch and move. But if anyone
touches or moves a boundary stone, extending his own possessions or
diminishing those of someone else, for this crime he will be condemned
by the gods. If slaves shall do this, they shall be moved to a lower
status by their owner. But if this is done with the knowledge of the
master, the household will be immediately uprooted, and the whole of
his family will perish. The people responsible will be afflicted by
the worst diseases and wounds and their limbs will be weakened. Then
even the land will be shaken by storms or whirlwinds and many
landslips. The crops will be frequently laid low and cut down by rain
and hail, they will perish in the heat of the summer, they will be
killed off by blight. There will be civil strife amongst the people.
Know that these things happen, when such crimes are committed.
Therefore do not be either a deceitful or treacherous. Place restraint
in your heart. ..." - Tarquitius, Etruscan haruspex (c. 90 B.C.)

"Ortum videamus haruspicinae; sic facillume quid habeat auctoritatis
iudicabimus. Tages quidam dicitur in agro Tarquiniensi, cum terra
araretur et sulcus altius esset impressus, exstitisse repente et eum
adfatus esse qui arabat. Is autem Tages, ut in libris est Etruscorum,
puerili specie dicitur visus, sed senili fuisse prudentia. Eius
adspectu cum obstipuisset bubulcus clamoremque maiorem cum admiratione
edidisset, concursum esse factum, totamque brevi tempore in eum locum
Etruriam convenisse. Tum illum plura locutum multis audientibus, qui
omnia verba eius exceperint litterisque mandarint. Omnem autem
orationem fuisse eam qua haruspicinae disciplina contineretur; eam
postea crevisse rebus novis cognoscendis et ad eadem illa principia
referendis. Haec accepimus ab ipsis, haec scripta conservant, hunc
fontem habent disciplinae." - M. Tullius Cicero, "de Divinatione", 2.50

On this day the Etruscans celebrated in honor of the god Fufluns.
Flufuns is an Etruscan god of vegetation, vitality and gaiety, son of
the earth-goddess Semia. He shows many similarities with Dionysus and
Bacchus, the Greek and Roman gods of wine. The Etruscan religion was,
like Christianity and Judaism, a revealed religion. An account of the
revelation is given by Cicero (On Divination, 2.50). One day, says
the legend, in a field near the river Marta in Teruria, a strange
event occurred. A divine being rose up from the newly ploughed furrow,
a being with the appearance of a child, but with the wisdom of an old
man. The startled cry of the ploughman brought the lucomones, the
priest-kings of Etruria hurrying up to the spot. To them, the wise
child chanted the sacred doctrine, which they reverently listened to
and wrote down, so that this most precious possession could be passed
on to their successors. Immediately after the revelation, the
miraculous being fell dead and disappeared into the ploughed field.
His name was Tages, and he was believed to be the son of Genius and
grandson of the highest God, Tinia (or Iuppiter as he became known to
the Romans). This doctrine was known to the Romans as the "disciplina
etrusca".


Valete bene!

Cato



SOURCES

Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Fufluns
(http://www.mysteriousetruscans.com/religion.html) and
(http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fufluns.html)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48462 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: NO SCRIBAE: Re: [Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CONSULARE DE CREATIONE ACCE
Salvete,

The easy rule of thumb for new citizens is: the scriba/assistant of
the consul is called accensus, the scriba of a tribune is called
viator (although a viator had also ´coercitio´ duties by the
tribunicia postestas as the lictor had by the Imperium).

Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius

2007/1/3, Gregory Rose <gregory.rose@...>:
>
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>
>
>
>
> Scaurus Quintiliano SPD.
>
> Amice, scripist:
>
> > Just a small reminder, Consuls can only appoint Accensi and not Scribae.
>
> I would argue that in accordance with a fundamental principle of Roman
> law an imperium maius, like that of a consul, entails all the powers
> included in any lesser imperium. Hence, even if the constitution
> mentions accensi, the fact of imperium maius permits the appointment
> of consualr scribae.
>
> Vale.
>
> Scaurus
>



--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48463 From: Lucius Arminius Faustus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: ATTENTION: Advices for candidates to governors and interpreters
Salvete, citizens

I am receiving the names for citizens willing to be governors (english
word) or interpreters (english word) as asked by the edicta
consularibus 01/07 and 02/07 (latin word, if I made right declension).

Since the decision is from the Senate, I ask to include also a brief
one paragraph speech between " " to be released to the senatores with
the pledge and the merits of the candidate, so the Senate can have
more information about the technical capacities for their decision.
This is specially important for citizens first time governors or
interpreters, who are a bit ´unknown´ to the older senatores.

--
Valete bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus CSL

"Vigilando, agendo, bene consulendo, prospera omnia cedunt" - Salustius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48464 From: Appius Iulius Priscus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Ap. Iul. Priscus Dianae Aventinae omnibus SPD

But don't you think that it is the bickering and the NR issues that contribute largely to the relative excess that unsubscribers complain about?

Valete
Ap. Iul. Priscus

Diana Octavia Aventina <dianaaventina@...> wrote:
Salvete,

One of the duties that I had in 2006 was to keep track of the reasons why people/citizens unsubscribed from the main List. Anyone who unsubscribe received an automated message from me (sent on behalf of and with permission from the Praetores) asking for feedback. The results surprised me.

Like me, I think most of you thought/think that most unsubscriptions are caused by bickering on the ML or that the topics are mostly about NR and not ancient Rome. That now seems not to be true at all. I received about 50 emails from people/citizens who unsubscribed. Only 2 or 3 complained of bickering/infighting. All of the others either said that they

-did not have time for NR ;
-the volume of emails was too much for their inbox;
-the volume of emails were too many to read;
-the volume of emails were too many to read because he/she was not a native English speaker.

Surprising huh?
Valete,
Diana

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48465 From: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kell Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Salve Diana,

Thanks for your work and observations on this matter. I cannot for
the life of me, understand why some citizens or associates get choked
over the in boxes being to full. Don't they understand that all they
have to do in profile editing is to check the box saying, " no email,
I'll read the posts on the ML" ? I belong to a few dozen yahoo
groups. The important ones that require I be on the ball like the
senate or tribune list from last year I recieve my email but the ML
and others, I just visit the postings a few times per day, scan over
them and pick the ones of interest.

There are always some who may be offended by the bickering but I know
there are so many others that get a laugh and a half out of the
scraps sometimes - more or less a soap opera or Jerry Springer
scenario that substitutes for the great games or live market
squabbles and gossip.

Regards,

QSP

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Diana Octavia Aventina
<dianaaventina@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>
> One of the duties that I had in 2006 was to keep track of the
reasons why people/citizens unsubscribed from the main List. Anyone
who unsubscribe received an automated message from me (sent on behalf
of and with permission from the Praetores) asking for feedback. The
results surprised me.
>
> Like me, I think most of you thought/think that most
unsubscriptions are caused by bickering on the ML or that the topics
are mostly about NR and not ancient Rome. That now seems not to be
true at all. I received about 50 emails from people/citizens who
unsubscribed. Only 2 or 3 complained of bickering/infighting. All of
the others either said that they
>
> -did not have time for NR ;
> -the volume of emails was too much for their inbox;
> -the volume of emails were too many to read;
> -the volume of emails were too many to read because he/she was not
a native English speaker.
>
> Surprising huh?
> Valete,
> Diana
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48466 From: caivsmarivs Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Oath of Office - C. Marius
C. Marius Maior Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit:

Ego, Gaius Marius Maior, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me
defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse
sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Marius Maior, officio Quaestoris Novae Romae accepto,
deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus
culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me
persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Marius Maior, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam
defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse,
ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Gaius Marius Maior, officiis muneris Quaestoris me quam optime
functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Quaestoris una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

___________________________________________________________

I, Gaius Marius Maior (Marius Maxim) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Marius Maior (Marius Maxim)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Gaius Marius Maior (Marius Maxim) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear
never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Gaius Marius Maior (Marius Maxim) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Marius Maior (Marius Maxim) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

_______________________________________________________

Datum sub manu mea, pridie Non. Ianvarias MMDCCLX a.U.c
Lucio Arminio Faustis et Tiberio Galerio Paulinis Consulibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48467 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: EDICTUM PRAETORIS GAII EQUITI CATONI
Ex Officio Praetoris C. Equiti Catoni

Salvete omnes.

Ex hoc, C. Iulius Scaurus, quaestore, scriba ad moderandum Forum
Praecipuum Novae Romae cum iuribus, privilegiis, et muneribus eius
creatur.

Nullum ius iurandum poscetur.

Datum sub manu mea prid. Non. Ian. MMDCCLX A.U.C. Tb. Galerio Paulino
L. Arminio Fausto coss.

C. Equitius Cato
Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48468 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: a.d. III Non. Ian.
Cato Iuio Prisco omnibusque SPD

Salve et salvete.

Interesting question.


In Lucian of Samosata's "Timon the Misanthrope", we get the following:


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


SCENE: Olympus. ZEUS, PLUTUS, and HERMES are arguing.

ZEUS: However, go to him now without wasting any more time, Hermes,
and take Plutus with you. Thesaurus is to accompany Plutus, and they
are both to stay with Timon, and not leave him so lightly this time,
even though the generous fellow does his best to find other hosts for
them. As to those parasites, and the ingratitude they showed him, I
will attend to them before long; they shall have their deserts as soon
as I have got the thunderbolt in order again. Its two best spikes are
broken and blunted; my zeal outran my discretion the other day when I
took that shot at Anaxagoras the sophist; the Gods non-existent,
indeed! that was what he was telling his disciples. However, I missed
him (Pericles had held up his hand to shield him), and the bolt
glanced off on to the Anaceum, set it on fire, and was itself nearly
pulverized on the rock. But meanwhile it will be quite sufficient
punishment for them to see Timon rolling in money.

PLUTUS: Well, Zeus, I am not going to him.

ZEUS: Your reason, good Plutus; have I not told you to go?

PLUTUS: Good God! why, he insulted me, threw me about, dismembered me
- me, his old family friend - and practically pitchforked me out of
the house; he could not have been in a greater hurry to be rid of me
if I had been a live coal in his hand. What, go there again, to be
transferred to toadies and flatterers and harlots? No, no, Zeus; send
me to people who will appreciate the gift, take care of me, value and
cherish me. Let these gulls consort with the poverty which they prefer
to me; she will find them a smock-frock and a spade, and they can be
thankful...

ZEUS: That was the burden of your complaint - you were stifled in deep
darkness. We saw you pale and careworn, your fingers hooked with
coin-counting, and heard how you would like to run away, if only you
could get the chance. It was monstrous, then, that you should be kept
in a bronze or iron chamber, like a Danae condemned to virginity, and
brought up by those stern unscrupulous tutors, Interest, Debit and Credit.

HERMES: Come along, Plutus. Hullo! limping? My good man,20 I did not
know you were lame as well as blind.

PLUTUS: No, it is intermittent. As sure as Zeus sends me to any one, a
sort of lethargy comes over me, my legs are like lead, and I can
hardly get to my journey's end; my destined host is sometimes an old
man before I reach him. As a parting guest, on the other hand, you may
see me wing my way swifter than any dream. 'Are you ready?' and almost
before 'Go' has sounded, up goes my name as winner; I have flashed
round the course absolutely unseen sometimes.

HERMES: You are not quite keeping to the truth; I could name you
plenty of people who yesterday had not the price of a halter to hang
themselves with, and to-day have developed into lavish men of fortune;
they drive their pair of high-steppers, whereas a donkey would have
been beyond their means before. They go about in purple raiment with
jewelled fingers, hardly convinced yet that their wealth is not all a
dream.

PLUTUS: Ah, those are special cases, Hermes. I do not go on my own
feet on those occasions, and it is not Zeus who sends me, but Pluto,
who has his own ways of conferring wealth and making presents; Pluto
and Plutus are not unconnected, you see. When I am to flit from one
house to another, they lay me on parchment, seal me up carefully, make
a parcel of me and take me round. The dead man lies in some dark
corner, shrouded from the knees upward in an old sheet, with the cats
fighting for possession of him, while those who have expectations wait
for me in the public place, gaping as wide as young swallows that
scream for their mother's return.

HERMES and PLUTUS show up, get rid of POVERTY, and approach TIMON.

TIMON: Who are you, villains? What do you want here, interrupting a
hired labourer? You shall have something to take with you, confound
you all! These clods and stones shall provide you with a broken head
or two.

HERMES: Stop, Timon, don't throw. We are not men; I am Hermes, and
this is Plutus; Zeus has sent us in answer to your prayers. So knock
off work, take your fortune, and much good may it do you!

TIMON: I dare say you are Gods; that shall not save you. I hate every
one, man or God; and as for this blind fellow, whoever he may be, I am
going to give him one over the head with my spade.

PLUTUS: For God's sake, Hermes, let us get out of this! the man is
melancholy-mad, I believe; he will harm me before I can escape.



And in Aristophanes' "Plutus", we get:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


PLUTUS: Listen then, since I must reveal what I had intended to keep a
secret. I am Plutus.

CARIO: Oh! you wretched rascal! You Plutus all the while, and you
never said so!

CHREMYLUS: You, Plutus, and in this piteous guise! Oh, Phoebus Apollo!
oh, ye gods of heaven and hell! Oh, Zeus! is it really and truly as
you say?

PLUTUS: Yes.

CHREMYLUS: Plutus' very own self?

PLUTUS: His own very self and none other.

CHREMYLUS: But tell me, how come you're so squalid?

PLUTUS: I have just left Patrocles' house, who has not had a bath
since his birth.

CHREMYLUS: But your infirmity; how did that happen? Tell me.

PLUTUS: Zeus inflicted it on me, because of his jealousy of-mankind.
When I was young, I threatened him that I would only go to the just,
the wise, the men of ordered life; to prevent my distinguishing these,
he struck me with blindness' so much does he envy the good!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Now, what does this show? It seems as if Plutus, the god of wealth,
and Pluto, the god of the Underworld, are seperate figures; Pluto is
called by the Greeks "the Rich One", though. I'm going to look into
it more :-)

Vale et valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48469 From: FAC Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Week-end gratuito nella Regio IV: Il SAMNIVM
Salvete Omnes,
sorry, I have forgotten to translate this message for not Italians.

----------

Provincia Italia and Cutulral Association Pomerium invite you at

Vasto - 27th and 28th january 2007
WEEK-END IN THE REGIO IV: SAMNIUM
Italian national meeting of Nova Roma and Association Pomerium

All the Novaromans and the members of Associazione Pomerium are
invited to the national meeting in Vasto (Hotel Montecarlo) at 27th
and 28th January 2007. Here we could talk, eat local meals and visit
excellent archeological sites and museums.
The partecipation is free, Hotel Montecarlo and Vindex will offer
rooms and meals to all the people presenting the own subscrition to
the associations. People coming not from Nova Roma and Pomerium will
receive special prices by the hotel.

PROGRAMS
---------
SATURDAY 27th JANUARY 2007
h 11,00 - Arrival and welcome
h 12,30 - Lunch in rural restaurant (15 euro per person)
h 15,30 - Visit to the Civic Museum of Vasto and the to the mosaics
of the roman Therme
h 21,30 - Meeting and dinner

SUNDAY 28th JANUARY 2007
> h 9,00 - Breakfast
> h 11,00 - Visit to the National Archeological Museum d'Abruzzo of
Chieti and to the close archeological sites
> h 13,00 - Fast lunch
> h 15,00 - Visit to the Mountain Pallano and its prehistorical walls
> h 18,00 - Coming back at the hotel


PRICES
--------
The partecipation is free for Novaromans and members of the
Associazione Pomerium.

For external people:
> Dus deluxe 45,00 euro
> Double room deluxe 68,00 euro

Please confirm your partecipation at info @ pomerium.org writing
your nova roman name, contacts and all the information useful for
the registration, before of 24th January 2007.


HOW TO ARRIVE IN VASTO
--------------------
> Hotel Montecarlo ****
> ss 16 Adriatica, 256- 66055 Vasto Marina (CH) - ITALY
> +39.0873 / 801355 - fax +39.0873 / 801257
> info@ hotelmontecarlovasto.it - www.hotelmontecarlovasto.it

Close the hotel there are:
- the exit "Vasto Sud" of the Highway A14 - 2km
- Statl stree 16 "Adriatica"
- Rail Station "Vasto San Salvo" - 500 mt


Thank you very much for the collavoration and invitation to Hotel
Montecarlo and Roberto Pitaccio.

We'll wait for you all!

Further information at:
Associazione culturale Pomerium
info@ pomerium.org - http://www.pomerium.org



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Francesco Valenzano <fraelov@...>
wrote:
>
> sono liete di invitarvi
> Vasto - 27/28 gennaio 2007
> WEEK-END NELLA REGIO IV: IL SAMNIUM
> Riunione nazionale di Nova Roma e dell'Associazione Pomerium
>
> Tutti i cittadini Nova Romani e i soci dell'Associazione Pomerium
sono invitati alla riunione nazionale che si terrà Vasto i prossimi
27 e 28 gennaio 2007 presso l'Hotel Montecarlo.
> Avremo modo di conoscerci, discutere idee e proposte, vistare siti
archeologici di eccezionale valore.
> La partecipazione è completamente gratuita, vitto e alloggio
gentilmente offerti dall'Hotel Montecarlo, previa presentazione
della tessera di Socio Pomerium o dei dati di iscrizione a Nova
Roma. Accompagnatori e coloro che non sono iscritti alle
associazioni usufruiranno di un particolare sconto per il
pernottamento.
>
> PROGRAMMA
> SABATO 27 GENNAIO 2007
> h 11,00 - Arrivo e assegnazione camere
> h 12,30 - Pranzo in agriturismo (15 euro per pax)
> h 15,30 - Visita al Museo Civico di Vasto e ai mosaici delle terme
romane
> h 21,30 - Saluto delle Associazioni e cena in Hotel
> DOMENICA 28 GENNAIO 2007
> h 9,00 - Colazione
> h 11,00 - Visita al Museo Archeologico Nazionale d'Abruzzo di
Chieti e ai siti archeologici limitrofi
> h 13,00 - Pranzo al sacco
> h 15,00 - Visita al Monte Pallano e alle mura megalitiche
> h 18,00 - Ritorno in hotel, eventuale cena e pernotto
> Il programma potrebbe subire modifiche che verranno
tempestivamente comunicate ai partecipanti via e-mail.
>
> PREZZI
> Per Nova Romani e Soci dell'Associazione Pomerium
> Vitto e alloggio completamente gratuito previa prenotazione e
presentazione della tessera associativa.
> Per accompagnatori e non iscritti alle associazioni
> Dus deluxe 45,00 euro
> Doppia deluxe 68,00 euro
> Sconto del 20% per la cena di sabato sera il listino dell'hotel
> Si prega di voler comunicare all'indirizzo info@... la propria
partecipazione all'evento indicando nome e cognome, numero di
tessera Pomerium o nome novaromano, recapito telefonico e tutti i
dati necessari per la prenotazione,
> entro il 24 gennaio 2007.
>
> COME RAGGIUNGERE VASTO
>
> Hotel Montecarlo ****
> ss 16 Adriatica, 256- 66055 Vasto Marina (CH)
> 0873 / 801355 (4 linee r.a.) fax 0873 / 801257
> info@... - www.hotelmontecarlovasto.it
> Nelle immediate vicinanze dell'hotel si trovano:
> - l'uscita A14 Vasto Sud - 2 km
> - la Statale 16 adriatica
> - la Stazione ferroviaria Vasto San Salvo - 500 mt
>
> CENNI STORICI
> Antico centro frentano, una volta denominato Histonium, il centro
abitato di Vasto fu fortificato dai romani. Al tempo della guerra
civile, nel 88 a.C., si schierò con Mario e fu assediata ed
espugnata da Silla, che la privò della cittadinanza romana,
smantellandone completamente le mura. Il periodo buio durò solo 10
anni; con la morte di Silla, Vasto recuperò i privilegi persi e,
grazie all'intensa attività del suo porto "La Buca", prosperò
sviluppando i commerci nel bacino dell'Adriatico.
> Pestilenze (79 d.C.) e calamità naturali caratterizzano periodi di
appannamento dell'antica Histonium. Con Augusto e successivamente
nel 410 con la discesa di Aleramo in Italia, l'importanza e la
floridità di Vasto incominciano un lento declino, culminante
nell'802 con l'assalto di Aymone di Dordona, che, alla testa di
soldatesche di Pipino il Breve, la distrusse.
> Il Museo Archeologico di Vasto ha sede nelle sale del Palazzo
D'Avalos in Piazza Pudente. Al piano terra vi è la sezione
archeologica divisa in 5 sale, con sarcofaghi, sculture, anfore,
monili, armi, monete, iscrizioni osche e latine e ceramiche che
testimoniano la civiltà italica e romana fino all'Alto Medioevo
> A Chieti vivevano comunità umane già in epoca preistorica e
sicuramente sorge sull'antica Teate, capoluogo dei Marrucini dopo la
caduta del pi?ico centro di Touta Marouca, alle falde della Maiella.
In epoca romana, Teate assunse notevole importanza in seguito
all'apertura della via Tiburtina Valeria, tanto da raggiungere, in
periodo imperiale, una popolazione di 60.000 abitanti e da essere
dotata di numerosi templi, di terme e di un teatro, le cui rovine si
possono ammirare ancora oggi.
> Una visita alla Chieti antica non può che iniziare dalla
Civitella, il quartiere dove sorgeva l'antica acropoli, composto da
tre nuclei: l'Anfiteatro, l'impianto fondale e il portico
monumentale. Il sito archeologico permette di ammirare i resti
dell'anfiteatro e della Porticus vicina all'ingresso settentrionale
nonchè la fondazione dell'edificio templare demolito per la
costruzione del complesso monumentale di età giulio-claudia.
> Da visitare anche i tempietti romani innalzati su resti di
costruzioni cultuali italiche, la cisterna romana del I sec. d.C.,
le terme romane con pavimenti a mosaico, il Frigidarium, Tepidarium
e Calidarium e le botteghe dei commercianti.
> Il Museo Archeologico Nazionale d'Abruzzo presso l'ex Palazzo
frigeri possiede una delle raccolte archeologiche pi?ortanti
d'Europa. Si compone in vari settori, da quello preistorico e
protostorico a quelli concernenti le antichità italiche e romane. Di
notevole interesse sono i rilievi funerari, il letto bronzeo, una
colossale statua di Ercole ed una Afrodite. Il pezzo più conosciuto
è la statua del Guerriero di Capestrano, datata VI sec. a.C. e alta
oltre 2 mt. Essa doveva rappresentare la tompa del capo Nevio
Pompuledeio e testimonierebbe l'istituzione della monarchia già nel
VI secolo.
>
>
> Su un imponente crinale che domina la Val di Sangro, sorgono le
maestose mura megalitiche in opera poligonale di Monte Pallano,
lunghe 160 metri e alte 5, con 3 strette porte. La fortificazione
eretta probabilmente dagli antichi Lucani del Sangro, conteneva
varie presenze al suo interno, tra cui un foro porticato circondato
da ambienti.
>
> Si ringrazia per il gentile invito e la preziosa collaborazione
l'Hotel Montecarlo e Roberto Pitaccio.
>
> Vi aspettiamo numerosi!
>
>
>
>
>
> Per informazioni:
> Associazione culturale Pomerium
> c/o Valenzano - Via E. Fieramosca, 178- 70100 Bari
> info@... - http://www.pomerium.org
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48470 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
On 1/4/07, Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly) <mjk@...> wrote:
> I cannot for
> the life of me, understand why some citizens or associates get choked
> over the in boxes being to full. Don't they understand that all they
> have to do in profile editing is to check the box saying, " no email,
> I'll read the posts on the ML" ?


I can't speak for all, but I find that extremely inconvenient and
inefficient. By the time I bring up yahoo groups, login, go to the
postings, find the ones I want and read them, I could have cleared my
inbox already.G-mail keeps postings grouped by subject/discussion
thread. So once I know the threads I'm not interested in I can mass
delete them on login without finding particular posts in the thread
and skipping them.

There are also people who subscribe to the mailing list directly but
do not have a yahoo account. This only leaves them digest/individual
e-mail as options.

In short, many people might be fully aware of that option and find
receiving the e-mail traffic to be the lesser of two evils.

Ti Octavius Avitus
--
Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity.
And so we ask ourselves: will our actions
echo across centuries?
Will strangers hear our names long after
we are gone, and wonder who we were,
how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48471 From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
On 1/4/07, Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly) <mjk@...>
wrote:
>
> Salve Diana,
>
> Thanks for your work and observations on this matter. I cannot for
> the life of me, understand why some citizens or associates get choked
> over the in boxes being to full.


I was just wondering if people are always totally honest about why they
leave. I wonder if they give the volume of mail as a polite reason if they
didn't feel like going into details. Just a thought

Flavia Lucilla Merula

Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48472 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
SALVE ET SALVETE !

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsteen Wright"
<kirsteen.falconsfan@...> wrote:
> I was just wondering if people are always totally honest about why
they leave. I wonder if they give the volume of mail as a polite
reason if they didn't feel like going into details. Just a thought.>>>

This is not just a thought. This is the truth !

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48473 From: Robin HL Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
People could help by not copying more a line or two, at most, of what
they are replying to. I read very list of the ML because there's just
too much irrelevant material to sort through.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48474 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
In a message dated 1/4/2007 10:18:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
iulius_sabinus@... writes:
This is not just a thought. This is the truth !
Based on what, Iulius? Your ability to read minds?

Q. Fabius Maximus




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48475 From: Titus Iulius Sabinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
SALVE !

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2007 10:18:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> iulius_sabinus@... writes:
> This is not just a thought. This is the truth !
> Based on what, Iulius? Your ability to read minds?>>>

No. Based to my experience.

VALE BENE,
IVL SABINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48476 From: Stephen Gallagher Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Fw: [Imperial Rome] New additions to Ask The Expert
FYI
----- Original Message -----
From: Aurelia Coritana<mailto:aurelia_coritana@...>
To: imperialrome2@...<mailto:imperialrome2@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: [Imperial Rome] New additions to Ask The Expert


Greetings all!

This is a friendly reminder that Adrian Goldsworthy is available to
answer your questions on The Roman Way forum until the end of the
month. Mr. Goldsworthy is the author of "Caesar: Life of a Colossus"
and many other books about ancient Roman military history.

In February, we will be joined by Jon Lendon, author of "Soldiers and
Ghosts," and in March, John Clarke, author of many works on domestic
life and art in Pompeii.

Please join us! (http://www.theromanway.org/forum<http://www.theromanway.org/forum>)

Aurelia Coritana
www.theromanway.org/forum





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48477 From: Shoshana Hathaway Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Salvete Omnibus,

To be honest, unless I have a healthy clutch of NR messages waiting for me when I come home from work, I'm a bit disappointed, but that's just me. So I read all of them? Usually, yes, and have a folder of saved messages that I think will be of continuing value to me. I think when people say that there is too much mail, what they are really saying is that they don't want to commit the time and/or effort necessary to read (and hopefully) consider the messages. That being true, they certainly aren't going to want to invest time and effort into NR itself.

I learned a long time ago, as a list owner, that people join and leave lists for many reasons, most of which have nothing to do with either the list or it's sponsoring organization. I also know, from my own experience, that many people will find a neutral reason for leaving a list, when asked, rather than say something they feel might be unpleasant or even hurtful. to be honest, I would, just because I was taught to be tactful, courteous and kind, whenever possible.

But I also think that the bottom line is that it would be a mistake to take changes in list membership too seriously. I'd be far more concerned with the per centage of new members who stay and become citizens, and with per centage of new citizens who leave NR within the first year. These people have shown a willingness to make a commitment, and abandoning that commitment might well indicate things we will want to address.

Valete Bene,
C. Maria Caeca

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48478 From: Quintus Iulius Probus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: oath of the office
I, Quintus Iulius Probus do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Quintus Iulius Probus
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Quintus Iulius Probus swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear
never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Quintus iulius Probus swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Quintus Iulius Probus further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48479 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: New poll for Nova-Roma
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
Nova-Roma group:

Salvete Romans

In order to increase the number of wiki pages and other
services to citizens and potential citizens who read and
write a language other that English I am conducting a survey
to determine how many citizens are multilingual and to determine
which languages they can read and write.

This information will be used to determine the number of citizens
available to translate the Wiki, the newsletter and other material
into our family of languages.

Valete

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Consul


QUESTION I can read and write the following well enough
to translate for Nova Roma.


o Spanish
o Italian
o French
o Portuguese
o German
o Norwegian
o Swedish
o Romanian
o Greek ( Ancient )
o Greek ( Modern )
o Hungarian
o Slovakian
o Czech
o English
o Russian
o Polish
o Latvian
o Estonian
o Lithuanian
o Japanese
o I would help with translations
o I would not help with translation


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/surveys?id=12494469

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48480 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: EDICTUM CENSORIS: on the appointment of Apparitores
ex officio Marci Octavi Gracchi Censoris
Nonus IANVARIAS MMDCCLX a.u.c.

Effective Kal. Ian MMDCCLX, the office of the Censores will no
longer manage records of appointments of Apparitores (assistants).

Each magistrate who can appoint Apparitores may now do so directly
via a new tool on the web site; this is also now the *only* way that
Apparitores may be appointed. Apparitores will receive credit on
their profile pages and century points (if applicable) only if
appointed in this manner.

Magistrates: to appoint, dismiss, change the effective dates, or
change the title of an apparitor on your staff:
- go to http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album, and log in.
- go to the "PREFS" link in the login widget at far right
(http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/myaccount)
- look for a box titled "Offices Currently Held"; your
offices will be listed within. (Persons with no offices will
not see this box).
- click on one of your titles to access the "Manage Office" page
- here you may add an apparitor:
- put a partial name in the "Name/ID#" field and hit "Search"
- select the appropriate person from the popup screen
- answer the remaining questions - rank, dates, title, etc.

If you have questions, or if you encounter errors, please contact me.

Valete,
M. Octavius Gracchus, Censor.

--
Marcus Octavius Gracchus
octavius@... * http://www.graveyards.com

-"Apes don't read philosophy."
-"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it! Let me correct
you on a few things: Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of
Buddhism is not 'every man for himself'. And the London Underground is
not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up."
-from "A Fish Called Wanda"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48481 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Salve Priscus,
Thanks for your feedback regarding my email regarding feedback :-)

<But don't you think that it is the bickering and the NR issues that contribute largely to the relative <excess that unsubscribers complain about?

Well... I don't think so because when these citizens/subscribers emailed me the tone was 'I'm sorry to leave the list' rather than a 'Everyone is fighting and this crap is overloading my inbox'. In the automated email sent to them, it said clearly that anything they told me would be confidential and their comments would remain anonymous. So the door was totally open to have people tell the truth without repercussions. So I truly believe that if they were annoyed about any bickering, they would have told me.
Vale,
Diana

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48482 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Hi Flavia,

Thanks for your feedback too!

>I was just wondering if people are always totally honest about why they
>leave. I wonder if they give the volume of mail as a polite reason if they
>didn't feel like going into details.

I really think they were honest. Since sending me an email was not at all mandatory, I really doubt that anyone would bother going out of their way to contact me and then not tell the real reason.

Vale,
Diana

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48483 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: A reminder on oaths.
Ex Cathedra

A reminder is given to all magistrates
that the oath of office requires that
they include their Roman name and their
macro-national name.

The macro-national name MUST be included
at least once and there are no exceptions.
This is based on both the requirements
of Nova Roman and US corporate law.

A further reminder is given that the
business language of Nova Roma is English
and that the oath must be posted in that
language and may also be posted in any other
language you would care to use.



Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Consul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48484 From: A. Sempronius Regulus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Salvete,

I didn't unsubscribe but put the list on daily digest
for a year. I did so because I was too busy to attend
to the volume. Now I'm back to individual emails
because I have more time.

So my personal experience matches the feedback as far
as I can see.

Valete,
A. Sempronius Regulus


--- Diana Octavia Aventina <dianaaventina@...>
wrote:

> Salve Priscus,
> Thanks for your feedback regarding my email
> regarding feedback :-)
>
> <But don't you think that it is the bickering and
> the NR issues that contribute largely to the
> relative <excess that unsubscribers complain about?
>
> Well... I don't think so because when these
> citizens/subscribers emailed me the tone was 'I'm
> sorry to leave the list' rather than a 'Everyone is
> fighting and this crap is overloading my inbox'. In
> the automated email sent to them, it said clearly
> that anything they told me would be confidential
> and their comments would remain anonymous. So the
> door was totally open to have people tell the truth
> without repercussions. So I truly believe that if
> they were annoyed about any bickering, they would
> have told me.
> Vale,
> Diana
>
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> removed]
>
>


A. Sempronius Regulus

America Austrorientalis


Vincit qui se vincit. - Seneca
Astra inclinant, non necessitant. - Albinus
Hodie bonum est esse Romanum.

ANNI MMDCCLX AVC (anno urbis conditae - a.u.c.)




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48485 From: A. Sempronius Regulus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Two Queries
Salvete,

In light of several lines of posts, I have two
questions. One is simple. One might be difficult.

Simple question: there was talk of new coinage. What
became of that?

Difficult question: what is the current census of Nova
Roma? Is it higher or lower than in the past? What is
the retention rate? I ask because you can increase
your new member/citizen rate while losing on retained
member/citizen rate. [In any organization, if the
latter is happening, that is bad.]

Maybe a central high quality publication and an
increase in local NR events (something I believe my
Provincial Governor agrees with) would help address
the second issue if it is an issue.

Valete,


A. Sempronius Regulus

America Austrorientalis


Vincit qui se vincit. - Seneca
Astra inclinant, non necessitant. - Albinus
Hodie bonum est esse Romanum.

ANNI MMDCCLX AVC (anno urbis conditae - a.u.c.)




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48486 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
On 1/4/07, Diana Octavia Aventina <dianaaventina@...> wrote:
> Well... I don't think so because when these citizens/subscribers emailed me the tone was 'I'm sorry to leave the list' rather than a 'Everyone is fighting and this crap is overloading my inbox'. In the automated email sent to them, it said clearly that anything they told me would be confidential and their comments would remain anonymous. So the door was totally open to have people tell the truth without repercussions. So I truly believe that if they were annoyed about any bickering, they would have told me.

I have no problems with Octavia Aventina's methods. Almost all
professional polling relies simply on people's responses to questions
-- It's not like you can put people on a polygraph for every survey.

To see the actual statistical value of these numbers, we'd have to
know the variance, but based on the initial numbers here 94% of
respondents claimed too many e-mails. Even if you put a 20% margin of
error on it (which I highly doubt would be the margin of error) you'd
still have nearly 3/4 of people leaving for the same (stated) reason.

Mistress Diana, if you send me the raw data (Total Who left list,
Total Respondents, break down of how many responded in what way) I can
compute the variance for you to help calculate how the rest of those
who left the list might have done so.

If you wanted to go a step further, I could help you set up a short
survey for a random set of the mailing list that is still here. We
could then use their opinions of the mailing list as a comparison.

Ti Octavius Avitus
--
Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity.
And so we ask ourselves: will our actions
echo across centuries?
Will strangers hear our names long after
we are gone, and wonder who we were,
how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48487 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Two Queries
Salve Aule Semproni,

"A. Sempronius Regulus" <a_sempronius_regulus@...> writes:

> Simple question: there was talk of new coinage. What
> became of that?

The coins were minted and are available for sale. See
http://harpax.biz/coins.html

> Difficult question: what is the current census of Nova
> Roma?

The last census was completed in 2005. I can get you the numbers from that if
you'd like them. Since then we've added over two hundred provisional
citizens, perhaps 50 of whom have stayed with us and taken the test to become
full citizens. We had something like 258 assidui (tax paying citizens) just
before the December elections, and about 600 more capite censi.

> Is it higher or lower than in the past?

That's not as easy a question to answer as it might seem.

We know that the number of assidui has remained roughly constant between 220
and 260 over the past five years. The overall numbers have varied
significantly, in no small part because of changes in the laws dealing with
people who've dropped out of contact. We removed hundreds of names from the
citizenship rolls in 2005 because they failed to respond to the census. So
right now it appears that our numbers dropped significantly in late 2005, but
that's probably not true. It's more likely that people were drifting away all
the time and their names just remained on the rolls.

> What is the retention rate?

It's very good among the assidui. I'd guess well over 90%. Among the capite
censi it's dismal. I'd be surprised if we have 10% of the people who joined
Nova Roma but chose to not pay the voluntary annual tax currently active.

Vale,

CN•EQVIT•MARINVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48488 From: gequitiuscato Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Oath of Office C. Equitius Cato (English)
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Sorry about that; I intended to do this immediately after posting it
in Latin...

I, Gaius Equitius Cato (Michael Cerrato), do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honour of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Equitius Cato swear to honour
the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue
the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Gaius Equitius Cato swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana
as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gaius Equitius Cato, swear to protect and defend the Constitution
of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Equitius Cato, further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Praetor to the best of my abilities.

On my honour as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favour,
do I accept the position of Praetor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Gaius Equitius Cato
Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48489 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Fulmer" <tfulmer1@...> wrote:
>
> On 1/4/07, Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly) <mjk@...> wrote:
> > I cannot for
> > the life of me, understand why some citizens or associates get choked
> > over the in boxes being to full. Don't they understand that all they
> > have to do in profile editing is to check the box saying, " no email,
> > I'll read the posts on the ML" ?
>
>
> I can't speak for all, but I find that extremely inconvenient and
> inefficient. By the time I bring up yahoo groups, login, go to the
> postings, find the ones I want and read them, I could have cleared my
> inbox already.G-mail keeps postings grouped by subject/discussion
> thread. So once I know the threads I'm not interested in I can mass
> delete them on login without finding particular posts in the thread
> and skipping them.
>

Salve Avite,

Yahoo does it too, now. Click on MESSAGES on the left, and look for

"Messages: Simplify | Expand (Group by Topic)"

Click on "Group by Topic" and you will have a message thread display.

If you want the digest done the same way, click on "Edit Membership"
and make sure you have not selected the "Traditional" option. The
"Fully Featured" option will give you a digest in thread order.

optime vale

Agricola



> There are also people who subscribe to the mailing list directly but
> do not have a yahoo account. This only leaves them digest/individual
> e-mail as options.
>
> In short, many people might be fully aware of that option and find
> receiving the e-mail traffic to be the lesser of two evils.
>
> Ti Octavius Avitus
> --
> Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity.
> And so we ask ourselves: will our actions
> echo across centuries?
> Will strangers hear our names long after
> we are gone, and wonder who we were,
> how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48490 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
Agricola Merulae sal.

Good point; it is always wise to think hard about the kind of answers
gotten in this way. In this case, though, I think we can count on
honesty. Anyone who didn't want to go into it could just not reply at
all. As they are leaving the group anyway there is no reason for them
to make a polite fiction.

optime vale!


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsteen Wright"
<kirsteen.falconsfan@...> wrote:
>
> On 1/4/07, Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Michael Kelly) <mjk@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Diana,
> >
> > Thanks for your work and observations on this matter. I cannot for
> > the life of me, understand why some citizens or associates get choked
> > over the in boxes being to full.
>
>
> I was just wondering if people are always totally honest about why they
> leave. I wonder if they give the volume of mail as a polite reason
if they
> didn't feel like going into details. Just a thought
>
> Flavia Lucilla Merula
>
> Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48491 From: Chantal Gaudiano Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
For me, the answers are

1. Annoyed at the bickering over matters that have no importance
outside of NR.
2. Volume of mail--though I handle this by receiving the list in
digest form.
3. Needing to attend to other matters and be less attentive to NR for
a period.

I have never unsubscribed, but I have taken extended gafiations from
the list. I remain subscribed because I do find the list interesting
to read when the bickering is at a minimum.

Paulla Corva
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48492 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Re: Two Queries
Agricola Regulo sal.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Sempronius Regulus"
<a_sempronius_regulus@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>

[SNIP]

>
> Simple question: there was talk of new coinage. What
> became of that?
>

This: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Sestertius_Signum scroll down to the
second issue.

optime vale!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48493 From: Tita Artoria Marcella Date: 2007-01-04
Subject: Oath of Office, revised
I, Tita Artoria Marcella (Mattie Rose Travis), do solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma and to act always in the best interests of the people and senate of Nova Roma.

As a Curule Aedile of Nova Roma, I, Tita Artoria Marcella (Mattie Rose Travis), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tita Artoria Marcella (Mattie Rose Travis), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tita Artoria Marcella (Mattie Rose Travis), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tita Artoria Marcella (Mattie Rose Travis), further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Curule Aedile to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma and in the presence of the Gods and
Goddesses of the Roman people, and by their will and favor, I accept the
position of Curule Aedile and all the rights, privileges, obligations and
responsibilities attendant hereto.


Valete bene,
T. Artoria Marcella


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48494 From: Dora Smith Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
Well, I've been on the Nova-Roma list for a month. I could live with bickering, but there's never any actual discussion of anything to do with Rome. Just constant discussion of list politics and government. It could be argument, or it could be peaceful; I never read it. I've no interest in it. I want to know about Rome.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
tiggernut24@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Chantal Gaudiano
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Why People Unsubscribe from the ML


For me, the answers are

1. Annoyed at the bickering over matters that have no importance
outside of NR.
2. Volume of mail--though I handle this by receiving the list in
digest form.
3. Needing to attend to other matters and be less attentive to NR for
a period.

I have never unsubscribed, but I have taken extended gafiations from
the list. I remain subscribed because I do find the list interesting
to read when the bickering is at a minimum.

Paulla Corva



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48495 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
> A. Tullia Scholastica Dianae Octaviae Aventinae quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> I hope you feel better soon, Diana; it must be very uncomfortable to be in
> a cast of any kind, let alone one which immobilizes one¹s entire better arm.
>
> Salvete,
>
> One of the duties that I had in 2006 was to keep track of the reasons why
> people/citizens unsubscribed from the main List. Anyone who unsubscribe
> received an automated message from me (sent on behalf of and with permission
> from the Praetores) asking for feedback. The results surprised me.
>
> Like me, I think most of you thought/think that most unsubscriptions are
> caused by bickering on the ML or that the topics are mostly about NR and not
> ancient Rome. That now seems not to be true at all. I received about 50 emails
> from people/citizens who unsubscribed. Only 2 or 3 complained of
> bickering/infighting. All of the others either said that they
>
> -did not have time for NR ;
> -the volume of emails was too much for their inbox;
> -the volume of emails were too many to read;
> -the volume of emails were too many to read because he/she was not a native
> English speaker.
>
> Surprising huh?
>
> ATS: Well, this didn¹t surprise me, though, as some have pointed out
> since this was posted, people may simply be proffering a plausible reason
> rather than the actual one.
>
> Regarding point one, the fact is that most of the subscribers to the ML
> are by definition, not citizens of NR; concerning the others, some do have a
> high volume of mail from other sources and more limited storage space, and
> some certainly have problems with English. At certain times, there can be 100
> or more posts to this list in a single day, and that is a lot, especially for
> someone who is not a citizen, but merely interested...and, as one poster noted
> much later, we discuss NR here more than Roma antiqua, but that is to be
> expected. Frankly, however, the bickering does not help; more do seem to
> leave when that gets underway.
>
> Valete,
> Diana
>
>
> Roma/




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48496 From: Maior Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
M. Hortensia D.Smithae spd;
talking about politics & gov't. It's always been that way in
Nova Roma & it's a very Roman thing to do! That's the difference
between being Roman, which Nova Roma is all about, & talking about
Rome like any other interest group.
We're living it, which to me is just incredible. Though, yes,
sometimes tiresome;-)But then I think of seeing all my friends this
summer at the European Conventus & that's a total treat. Ruins, Nova
Romans & Latin -it just doesn't get any better.
bene vale
M. Hortensia Maior

>
> Well, I've been on the Nova-Roma list for a month. I could live
with bickering, but there's never any actual discussion of anything
to do with Rome. Just constant discussion of list politics and
government. It could be argument, or it could be peaceful; I never
read it. I've no interest in it. I want to know about Rome.
>
> Yours,
> Dora Smith
> Austin, TX
> tiggernut24@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chantal Gaudiano
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Why People Unsubscribe from the ML
>
>
> For me, the answers are
>
> 1. Annoyed at the bickering over matters that have no importance
> outside of NR.
> 2. Volume of mail--though I handle this by receiving the list in
> digest form.
> 3. Needing to attend to other matters and be less attentive to
NR for
> a period.
>
> I have never unsubscribed, but I have taken extended gafiations
from
> the list. I remain subscribed because I do find the list
interesting
> to read when the bickering is at a minimum.
>
> Paulla Corva
>
>
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48497 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Why people unsubscribe from the ML: end of year summary
> A. Tullia Scholastica Sylviae Rubeculae [Latin for Robin] quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> People could help by not copying more a line or two, at most, of what
> they are replying to.
>
> ATS: The moderation edictum from last year, which is still in effect
> pending our issuance of a new one, requests that posts be snipped, but since
> it is posted but once a year, only those who have been here that long are
> aware of this. The new version in progress, however, seems to omit this
> request, which I hope will be reinstated. We have had people post entire
> copies of the 25-message digest to this list while responding to just one
> message. However, it must be pointed out that Yahoo loses posts, and
> sometimes the ONLY way someone will see a post which is being answered is by
> having it copied below. It is also difficult when several points are being
> addressed to restrict one¹s comments to just one line.
>
>
> I read very list of the ML because there's just
> too much irrelevant material to sort through.
>
> ATS: I take it that you meant to say that you read very little of the ML.
> Remember, irrelevance is a relative concept: what is irrelevant to a
> non-citizen of Nova Roma may be very relevant to a citizen, and what is
> irrelevant to one citizen may well be very relevant to another. This is our
> main governmental bulletin board, so to speak, and particularly at election
> time and now, when new magistrates are taking office and forming their staffs,
> you will find a lot of administrative discussion. That will happen here, and
> is not limited to those times of year, though it is definitely more common
> then. We have periods we call contiones, during which candidates for election
> and proposed laws are discussed. If you are interested in Roman government,
> and in seeing how a modern version of one operates, you might find this
> interesting even if you are not a citizen. Otherwise, you may find it boring.
> If you are interested in the Religio Romana, you may find discussions and/or
> reports of ceremonies, etc., interesting; if not, you might be bored, or
> worse. Among the citizens of Nova Roma we have people from all walks of life
> and a sixty or more year age range (not counting preschool children born to
> citizens) who also come from just about every country in the atlas. One
> should not expect that all of them will be interested in every single thing
> said here, or that those who sign on during elections or a hot debate will
> find much of interest unless they (as the joke goes) attend the hockey games
> for the fights...in the stands. If you have some specific interest, such as
> Roman cooking, or the military, or gladiatorial combat, or Latin, we have
> special interest groups for these, and a host of other Roman-related topics
> which might be more to your liking. We also have special mailing lists for
> citizens who are Religio Romana practitioners, for Christians, for persons of
> the Jewish faith, etc., and for a host of other interests. The ML is the
> governmental list for non-magistrates, and it is hardly surprising that
> government is discussed here. It may bore you, and others, and the squabbling
> can get out of hand, but we do try to keep it down. This is a working Roman
> government in the modern world, an element of Roman life practiced today, just
> as some of us speak Latin today (yes, SPEAK Latin, as well as write it); if
> you are interested in Rome, you should find it interesting. I came to NR as a
> classicist, who already knew a good deal about ancient Greece and Rome, but
> have learnt a lot since I arrived here, and have found myself doing things I
> never thought I would (such as teach Latin over the internet, and run for
> election to offices I previously didn¹t know still existed, especially since I
> have never had much interest in politics). You might find something here to
> intrigue you eventually, but you may have to broaden your scope a bit, and get
> involved with some of the other lists.
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
> Praetrix
>
>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48498 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: New poll for Nova-Roma
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Ti. Galerio Paulino quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> It seems that you have mentioned ancient Greek, but not Latin, or
> Sanskrit, Hindi, etc...we have perhaps a dozen people in Latinitas who can
> write Latin, and some of us can speak it as well (A. Gratius Avitus, Astur,
> Cordus, yours truly...and likely others).
>
> Lentule amice, possisne mittere indicem decuriae primae (una cum notis de
> peritia eorum qui in eo sunt) ad forum praecipuum?
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> Nova-Roma group:
>
> Salvete Romans
>
> In order to increase the number of wiki pages and other
> services to citizens and potential citizens who read and
> write a language other that English I am conducting a survey
> to determine how many citizens are multilingual and to determine
> which languages they can read and write.
>
> This information will be used to determine the number of citizens
> available to translate the Wiki, the newsletter and other material
> into our family of languages.
>
> Valete
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Consul
>
> QUESTION I can read and write the following well enough
> to translate for Nova Roma.
>
>
> o Spanish
> o Italian
> o French
> o Portuguese
> o German
> o Norwegian
> o Swedish
> o Romanian
> o Greek ( Ancient )
> o Greek ( Modern )
> o Hungarian
> o Slovakian
> o Czech
> o English
> o Russian
> o Polish
> o Latvian
> o Estonian
> o Lithuanian
> o Japanese
> o I would help with translations
> o I would not help with translation
>
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/surveys?id=12494469
>
> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> web site listed above.
>
> Thanks!
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48499 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: knowing about Rome
In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:30:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tiggernut24@... writes:

I never read it. I've no interest in it. I want to know about Rome.



Dora, one learns through observation. We have pretty much replicated the
Roman Government of the late Republic with its various offices and functions.
To watch it in action with its various factions, agendas and disagreements is
to know about Rome. Imperial Roman government is one one would not wish to
recreate since one was at the mercy of a despot's whims.

We also have Sodalitas (clubs) that focuses on certain aspects of Roman
life: the military, cooking, classic literature, the Munus (Gladiator matches),
and the language.

To be in here in Nova Roma is to learn about Rome.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48500 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: knowing about Rome
M. Lucretius Agricola Omnibus S.P.D.

I agree most completely with what the Senator has said. Even with all
the bumps and blemishes, this is a wonderful enterprise; a chance to
see something that is as close as we can get to the Republic, actually
working in real time and with real goals.

That said, I will repeat what I have said many times before. This is
not all there is to Nova Roma. The biggest mistake, to my mind, would
be not to explore all the OTHER groups we have. I am sure that there
is something for everyone.

optime valete



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:30:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> tiggernut24@... writes:
>
> I never read it. I've no interest in it. I want to know about Rome.
>
>
>
> Dora, one learns through observation. We have pretty much
replicated the
> Roman Government of the late Republic with its various offices and
functions.
> To watch it in action with its various factions, agendas and
disagreements is
> to know about Rome. Imperial Roman government is one one would
not wish to
> recreate since one was at the mercy of a despot's whims.
>
> We also have Sodalitas (clubs) that focuses on certain aspects of
Roman
> life: the military, cooking, classic literature, the Munus
(Gladiator matches),
> and the language.
>
> To be in here in Nova Roma is to learn about Rome.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48501 From: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: New poll for Nova-Roma
Salve A. Tullia Scholastica

You are right. The first draft of the poll had Latin
as a choice and I forgot to list it when I rewrote the poll.

It is however one the choice where we can get the information
elsewhere, i.e. from Latinitas.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Tullia Scholastica"
<fororom@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > A. Tullia Scholastica Ti. Galerio Paulino quiritibus S.P.D.
> >
> > It seems that you have mentioned ancient Greek, but not
Latin, or
> > Sanskrit, Hindi, etc...we have perhaps a dozen people in
Latinitas who can
> > write Latin, and some of us can speak it as well (A. Gratius
Avitus, Astur,
> > Cordus, yours truly...and likely others).
> >
> > Lentule amice, possisne mittere indicem decuriae primae (una
cum notis de
> > peritia eorum qui in eo sunt) ad forum praecipuum?
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48502 From: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: to: all people of gens Cornelia
Salve, Marce Corneli!

How can I participate in this internet meeting? What is the address of the old cornelian mailinglist?

VALE
Gnaeus Cornelius
ROG - PROPR - ACC


wuffa2001 <magewuffa@...> ha scritto:
Salvete
call to a meeting of the Cornelian Great Counsel .

all the Cornelia and old allis are asked to come.

I Marcus Cornelius Felix am covokeing this meeting both as house priest
and on orders given to me from Sulla a few years ago . If you are not
on the old Gens list and can not get on i have set-up a new one at
yahoo called noblecornelia
I am asking all Pater/materfamilias in the gens to show and anyothers
who wish to move novaroma on the path of the Gods.
the cornlian with the lowest NR civi # ( mine is 290) there at the
meeting will chair the meeting ( Sulla's{ the rules for this were
set-up in 2000) request to me was that the oldest in time person chair
the meeting).

any cornelian who is on this list who is in conact with any conrelian
not on this list is asked to pass on this mesg.

vale Marcus Cornelius felix




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48503 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Non. Ian.
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est Nonis Ianuariis; haec dies fastus est.

"Should the Nones be here, rain from dark clouds
Will be the sign, at the rising of the Lyre." - Ovid, Fasti I

"Thereupon greater strife arose between them than before, as each,
while secretly striving for the advantage, was ostensibly willing to
accept equality, for the following reason. Their grandfather, as I
have stated, had ordered that he to whom the more favourable birds
first appeared should rule the colony; but, as the same kind of birds
had been seen by both, one had the advantage of seeing them first and
the other that of seeing the greater number. The rest of the people
also espoused their quarrel, and arming themselves without orders from
their leaders, began war; and a sharp battle ensued in which many were
slain on both sides. In the course of this battle, as some say,
Faustulus, who had brought up the youths, wishing to put an end to the
strife of the brothers and being unable to do so, threw himself
unarmed into the midst of the combatants, seeking the speediest death,
which fell out accordingly. Some say also that the stone lion which
stood in the principal part of the Forum near the rostra was placed
over the body of Faustulus, who was buried by those who found him in
the place where he fell Remus having been slain in this action,
Romulus, who had gained a most melancholy victory through the death of
his brother and the mutual slaughter of citizens, buried Remus at
Remoria, since when alive he had clung to it as the site for the new
city. As for himself, in his grief and repentance for what had
happened, he became dejected and lost all desire for life. But when
Laurentia, who had received the babes when newly born and brought them
up and loved them no less than a mother, entreated and comforted him,
he listened to her and rose up, and gathering together the Latins who
had not been slain in the battle (they were now little more than three
thousand out of a very great multitude at first, when he led out the
colony), he built a city on the Palatine hill.

The account I have given seems to me the most probable of the stories
about the death of Remus. However, if any has been handed down that
differs from this, let that also be related. Some, indeed, say that
Remus yielded the leadership to Romulus, though not without resentment
and anger at the fraud, but that after the wall was built, wishing to
demonstrate the weakness of the fortification, he cried, 'Well, as for
this wall, one of your enemies could as easily cross it as I do,' and
immediately leaped over it. Thereupon Celer, one of the men standing
on the wall, who was overseer of the work, said, 'Well, as for this
enemy, one of us could easily punish him,' and striking him on the
head with a mattock, he killed him then and there. Such is said to
have been the outcome of the quarrel between the brothers.

Such, then, are the facts concerning the origin of the Romans which I
have been able to discover a reading very diligently many works
written by both Greek and Roman authors. Hence, from now on let the
reader forever renounce the views of those who make Rome a retreat of
barbarians, fugitive and vagabonds, and let him confidently affirm it
to be a Greek city, — which will be easy when he shows that it is at
once the most hospitable and friendly of all cities, and when he bears
in mind that the Aborigines were Oenotrians, and these in turn
Arcadians, and remembers those who joined with them in their
settlement, the Pelasgians who were Argives by descent and came into
Italy from Thessaly; and recalls, moreover, the arrival of Evander and
the Arcadians, who settled round the Palatine hill, after the
Aborigines had granted the place to them; and also the Peloponnesians,
who, coming along with Hercules, settled upon the Saturnian hill; and,
last of all, those who left the Troad and were intermixed with the
earlier settlers." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, "Roman Antiquitius"
1.87-88


"Plouton [Hades] fell in love with Persephone, and with Zeus' help
secretly kidnapped her. Demeter roamed the earth over in search of
her, by day and by night with torches. When she learned from the
Hermionians that Plouton had kidnapped her, enraged at the gods she
left the sky, and in the likeness of a woman made her way to Eleusis
...When Zeus commanded Plouton to send Kore [Persephone] back up,
Plouto gave her a pomegranate seed to eat, as assurance that she would
not remain long with her mother. With no foreknowledge of the outcome
of her act, she consumed it. Askalaphos, the son of Akheron and
Gorgyra, bore witness against her, in punishment for which Demeter
pinned him down with a heavy rock in Haides' realm. But Persephone was
obliged to spend a third of each year with Plouton, and the remainder
of the year among the gods." - Apollodorus, The Library 1.29

"He [Hades] with Demeter's girl [Persephone] captive, through grassy
plains, drawn in a four-yoked car with loosened reins, rapt over the
deep, impelled by love, you flew till Eleusinia's city rose to view:
there, in a wondrous cave obscure and deep, the sacred maid secure
from search you keep, the cave of Atthis, whose wide gates display an
entrance to the kingdoms void of day." - Orphic Hymn 18 to Pluton

"Pluto asked from Iove that he give him in marriage Ceres' daughter
and his own. Iove said that Ceres would not permit her daughter to
live in gloomy Tartarus, but bade him seize her as she was gathering
flowers on Mount Etna, which is in Sicily. While Proserpina
[Persephone] was gathering flowers with Venus, Diana, and Minerva,
Pluto came in his four-horse chariot, and seized her. Afterwards Ceres
obtained from Iove permission for her to stay half of the year with
her, and half with Pluto." - Hyginus, Fabulae 146

In ancient Greece today was held in honor of the goddess Kore, known
to the Romans as Persephone or Proserpina. One day Kore was gathering
flowers in the flelds of Nysa with her companions when she suddenly
noticed a narcissus of striking beauty. She tan to pick it, but as she
bent down to do so the earth gaped open and Hades appeared. He seized
her and dragged her with him down into the depths of the earth.
According to another tradition, the abduction of Kore took place on
the heights near the town of Enna in Sicily. And in the neighbourhood
of Syracuse they showed the place where Hades plunged back into the
earth, hollowing out a vast cavity in the process, since filled by
waters from the spring of Cyane. Colonus in Attica, Hermione in
Argolis, Pheneus in Arcadia and even Crete, likewise claimed for their
territory the honour of this divine abduction.

Demeter meanwhile had heard her child's despairing cry for help.
'Then,' says the poet of the Homeric hymn, 'bitter sorrow seized her
heart...Over her shoulders she threw a sombre veil and flew like a
bird over land and sea, seeking here, seekíng there...' For nine days
the venerable goddess ranged the world, bearing flaming torches in her
hands. At last on Hecate's advice, she went to consult the divine
Helios who revealed to her the name of her daughter's ravísher. 'No
other god is guilty,' he said to her, 'but Zeus himself, who awarded
thy daughter to his brother Hades so that he might call her his
flowering bride.' This revelation overwhelmed Demeter. In rage and
despair she withdrew from Olympus and in the guise of an old woman
sought refuge among the cities of men.

Still inconsolable at the loss of her daughter, Demeter retired to her
temple at Eleusis. There 'she prepared for mankind a cruel and
terrible year: the earth refused to give forth any crop. Then would
the entire human race have perished of cruel, biting hunger if Zeus
had not bcen concerned.' He hastened to send his messenger Iris to
Demeter, but without success. Then all the gods carne one by one to
supplicate the implacable goddess. She stated fiatly that she would
not permit the earth to bear fruit unless she saw her daughter again.
There was no solution except to give in. Zeus commanded Hermes to
descend into the kingdom of Hades and obtain Hades' promise to return
young Kore - who since her arrival in the underworld had taken the
name Persephone - to her mother. Hades complied with the will of Zeus,
but before sending his wife up to earth tempted her to eat a few
pomegranate seeds. Now this fruit was a symbol of marriage and the
effect of eating it was to tender the union of man and wife indissoluble.

When Kore returned to the world of light her mother hastened to her
and embraced her with transports of joy. 'My daughter,' she cried,
'surely thou hast eaten nothing during your imprisonment in the dark
regions of Hades! For if thou hast not eaten thou shalt live with me
on Olympus. But if thou hast, then must thou return to the depths of
the earth!' Kore admitted that she had tasted of the fatal
pomegranate. lt seemed that Demeter was again to lose her daughter.

As a compromise Zeus decided that Persephone should live with her
husband for one-third of the year and pass the other two-thirds with
her mother. The august Rhea herself brought this proposal to Demeter
who agreed to it. She set aside her anger and bade the soil again be
fertile. The vast earth was soon covered with leaves and flowers.
Before she returned to Olympus, Demeter taught the kings of the earth
her divine science and initiated them into her sacred mysteries.


Valete bene!

Cato




SOURCES

Ovid, Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Apollodorus Siculus, Hyginus, Wikipedia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48504 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: to: all people of gens Cornelia
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus
<cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:
>
> Salve, Marce Corneli!
>
> How can I participate in this internet meeting? What is the
address of the old cornelian mailinglist?
>
> VALE
> Gnaeus Cornelius
> ROG - PROPR - ACC
>
>

Salve G.Corneli!
Gens_Cornelia@yahoogroups.com or noblecornelia@yahoogroups.com i own
the noblecornelia so all mesg will be on both groups for the meeting.
vale
Marcus Cornelius Felix
Sacerdos Templi Mercurius
Primus Sacerdotus Provincia America Boreoccidentalis

House Priest Patrician Gens Cornelia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48505 From: Cn. Hortentius Barbatus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
I recently signed up at the Nova Roma main site and registered the
name Cn. Hortentius Barbatus, but I'm not sure what if anything more I
need to do to complete the citizenship process. Is there an oath I'm
supposed to be taking or public appeal?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48506 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
Salvete omnes,

I've already answered Barbatus' questions offline.

Valete,

CN•EQVIT•MARINVS

"Cn. Hortentius Barbatus" <ghenrikson@...> writes:

> I recently signed up at the Nova Roma main site and registered the
> name Cn. Hortentius Barbatus, but I'm not sure what if anything more I
> need to do to complete the citizenship process. Is there an oath I'm
> supposed to be taking or public appeal?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48507 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
On 1/5/07, Cn. Hortentius Barbatus <ghenrikson@...> wrote:
> I recently signed up at the Nova Roma main site and registered the
> name Cn. Hortentius Barbatus, but I'm not sure what if anything more I
> need to do to complete the citizenship process. Is there an oath I'm
> supposed to be taking or public appeal?

Salve Barbatus,

You should not have any oaths or taxes to pay as part of becoming a
new citizen. If you filled out the website information and submitted
it, you should have been contacted by someone in the censor's office.
There is a probationary period, followed by a short test about Rome
and Nova Roma before you are granted full citizenship.

Also, I checked the list on the website and I think the last name you
signed up with was probably: Hortensius with an S? Hortentius wasn't
on the list of pre-approved family names so if you did submit it with
a T, perhaps the censors are trying to decide if that is possible?

Regardless, both the Censors monitor this list on a regular basis.
They will surely see your problem and be able to check into it with
far more detail than I.

Ti Octavius Avitus
--
Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity.
And so we ask ourselves: will our actions
echo across centuries?
Will strangers hear our names long after
we are gone, and wonder who we were,
how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48508 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: Oaths, Taxes, Etc. to be a Citizen?
> A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Hortensio Barbato quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> You have joined us at the time when our new magistrates are taking office,
> so you see a lot of oaths on this list. No oath is required of citizens, or
> of many governmental appointees, though elected magistrates must swear an oath
> as our laws require.
>
> Not sure what you mean by a public appeal; citizenship is handled by the
> censors¹ office, not by public voting or the like. Taxes are required for
> magistrates, magisterial appointees, and those holding religious offices.
> Otherwise they are voluntary, though payment of the small tax, or membership
> fee, demonstrates one¹s commitment to Nova Roma and helps us in achieving our
> goals.
>
> Incidentally, I have respelled your nomen as Hortensius is more likely; we
> use one standard spelling for each gens, though that was not always observed
> in the past.
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
> Praetrix
> Scriba censoris & immediate past rogatrix
>
> I recently signed up at the Nova Roma main site and registered the
> name Cn. Hortentius Barbatus, but I'm not sure what if anything more I
> need to do to complete the citizenship process. Is there an oath I'm
> supposed to be taking or public appeal?
>
>
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48509 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: New poll for Nova-Roma
>
>
> Salve, Consul Pauline, et salvete, quirites!
>
> Salve A. Tullia Scholastica
>
> You are right. The first draft of the poll had Latin
> as a choice and I forgot to list it when I rewrote the poll.
>
> ATS: Tsk, tsk. These things do happen, however.
>
> It is however one the choice where we can get the information
> elsewhere, i.e. from Latinitas.
>
> ATS: I¹m hoping that Lentulus will post the list of the most competent
> members of Latinitas to the ML. However, there are other major languages not
> mentioned in the poll; we have a number of East Indians on Musarum, and I see
> that we just got a new one on the ML with a journalism address, so perhaps one
> should add Hindi or the like. If memory serves, English is the second
> language of South India, whose languages are Dravidian, descended from ancient
> (classical) Tamil, rather than Indo-European, as are most North Indian
> languages, whose parent is Sanskrit.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> , "A.
> Tullia Scholastica"
> <fororom@...> wrote:
>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > A. Tullia Scholastica Ti. Galerio Paulino quiritibus S.P.D.
>>> > >
>>> > > It seems that you have mentioned ancient Greek, but not
> Latin, or
>>> > > Sanskrit, Hindi, etc...we have perhaps a dozen people in
> Latinitas who can
>>> > > write Latin, and some of us can speak it as well (A. Gratius
> Avitus, Astur,
>>> > > Cordus, yours truly...and likely others).
>>> > >
>>> > > Lentule amice, possisne mittere indicem decuriae primae (una
> cum notis de
>>> > > peritia eorum qui in eo sunt) ad forum praecipuum?
>> >
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48510 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Re: knowing about Rome
> A. Tullia Scholastica M. Lucretio Agricolae Q. Fabio Maximo M. Hortensiae
> Maiori Dorae Ferrariae [Dora Smith] S.P.D.
>
> I find myself in complete agreement with all three of the citizens
> mentioned above, not just the most recent ones whose posts are copied below.
> Indeed, there seems to be something for everyone here, and one does learn by
> observation. We have what amounts to a working Roman government here. One
> can learn a lot by watching it at work, by seeing how our magistrates
> function, by seeing how they are elected (not by individual votes, but by
> tribes and centuries), how we have a specific contio, or campaign season, for
> our candidates and concerning proposed laws, for we vote on them, not just the
> legislature. You might also observe some differences, such as that we women
> participate in our government, and are elected magistrates here. Learning
> takes many paths, and if you stick around and watch us, you should learn a
> great deal about how things were in ancient Rome...the names have changed
> (though we try to take correct Roman names), but we do try to do things the
> ancient way when possible and desirable.
>
> Valete.
>
>
>
> M. Lucretius Agricola Omnibus S.P.D.
>
> I agree most completely with what the Senator has said. Even with all
> the bumps and blemishes, this is a wonderful enterprise; a chance to
> see something that is as close as we can get to the Republic, actually
> working in real time and with real goals.
>
> That said, I will repeat what I have said many times before. This is
> not all there is to Nova Roma. The biggest mistake, to my mind, would
> be not to explore all the OTHER groups we have. I am sure that there
> is something for everyone.
>
> optime valete
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:30:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> > tiggernut24@... writes:
>> >
>> > I never read it. I've no interest in it. I want to know about Rome.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dora, one learns through observation. We have pretty much
> replicated the
>> > Roman Government of the late Republic with its various offices and
> functions.
>> > To watch it in action with its various factions, agendas and
> disagreements is
>> > to know about Rome. Imperial Roman government is one one would
> not wish to
>> > recreate since one was at the mercy of a despot's whims.
>> >
>> > We also have Sodalitas (clubs) that focuses on certain aspects of
> Roman
>> > life: the military, cooking, classic literature, the Munus
> (Gladiator matches),
>> > and the language.
>> >
>> > To be in here in Nova Roma is to learn about Rome.
>> >
>> > Q. Fabius Maximus
>> >
>
>
> .
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48511 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-05
Subject: Fwd: [yg-alerts] Hotmail Bouncing Issues and Groups Outage on Janua
Salvete,

I received the following message from Yahoo, and I'm passing it along for the
benefit of all readers of this mailing list. Members with Hotmail or MSN
addresses should be especially attentive. Moderators should note that people
with these addresses will likely appear to be bouncing.

Valete,

CN•EQVIT•MARINVS

----- Forwarded message from mcmanus_carole@... -----
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:39:59 -0000
From: Carole McManus <mcmanus_carole@...>
Reply-To: yg-alerts-owner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yg-alerts] Hotmail Bouncing Issues and Groups Outage on January 5
To: yg-alerts@yahoogroups.com

We've had reports that some Yahoo! Groups members with Hotmail and MSN
mail accounts have been bouncing since approximately December 29,
2006. The error message many of you are reporting is "550 Command
rejected for policy reasons."

We are working with our contacts on the Hotmail team to understand why
this occurred and will let you know when the problem has been
resolved. We appreciate your patience and we apologize for the
inconvenience this has caused.

We also want to acknowledge an outage the U.S. and International
Groups sites experienced early today (Pacific time). Users who
attempted to access their groups on the Web experienced timeouts on
their browsers between the hours of 12:45 a.m. and 2:15 a.m. Pacific.
This issue has been resolved and we are investigating solutions to
prevent similar outages in the future.

— Carole McManus
Community Manager
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48512 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: so Praetor
Salve to
Gaius Equitius Cato
Praetor

So if a person does not follow novaroma law on the oaths they can not
start acting in the office yet ,till they fill out the oath as it says
in law? so if fact if they do not use there real world legal nema on
the main list here they can not as of yet act in that office?
why i ask is there are two novaromai higher magistracies who have not
done this yet.!If I can show this to be a fact what do i do . start a
law suit?in your court?

vale
Marcus Cornelius Felix
N.B. yes i know i sent e-mailn this to you/ and have also sent e-mail
to said higher magistracies who have not done this yet. and have not
got them to follow the law and they are acting as if there in office HELP
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48513 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Tiberius Galerius Paulinus"
<spqr753@...> wrote:
>
> Ex Cathedra
>
> A reminder is given to all magistrates
> that the oath of office requires that
> they include their Roman name and their
> macro-national name.
>
> The macro-national name MUST be included
> at least once and there are no exceptions.
> This is based on both the requirements
> of Nova Roman and US corporate law.
>
> A further reminder is given that the
> business language of Nova Roma is English
> and that the oath must be posted in that
> language and may also be posted in any other
> language you would care to use.
>
>
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Consul
>
Salve Consul
two of the higher magistracies who have not done this yet.
so what are you going to do ,it has been well over 24 hours and still
two people who are acting as officers of NR have not done the oath
right as the law says one has to do.
vale
marcus cornelius felix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48514 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
On 1/5/07, wuffa2001 <magewuffa@...> wrote:
> Salve Consul
> two of the higher magistracies who have not done this yet.
> so what are you going to do ,it has been well over 24 hours and still
> two people who are acting as officers of NR have not done the oath
> right as the law says one has to do.
> vale
> marcus cornelius felix
>

Salve Cornelius Felix,

As this had already been brought up tonight, I'd suggest you let it
rest until tomorrow. It is very possible that the two magistrates to
whom you are referring have not logged in to check their e-mail since
your message was first sent.

I am not sure who the second in question is, but I know one of them is
in Eastern Europe and as such is not even awake yet. What good does it
do to press the issue in 10 different messages if they have not yet
had a chance to see the first one?

Additionally, bringing it up to all the higher magistrates directly is
your prerogative if you feel it is needed, they are past the 24 hour
period and you can act appropriately, but bringing it up to all of
them individually on the main list just adds clutter to the issue.

You must act as you feel is your obligation of course, these are just
my thoughts on how to best address your concerns.

Be well,

Ti Octavius Avitus
--
Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity.
And so we ask ourselves: will our actions
echo across centuries?
Will strangers hear our names long after
we are gone, and wonder who we were,
how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48515 From: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Oath of Office
I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa (Clint Johnson) do hereby solemnly swear
to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa (Clint
Johnson) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa (Clint Johnson) swear to uphold and defend
the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa (Clint Johnson) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa (Clint Johnson) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Diribitor to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, I
accept the position of Custos and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given under my hand this fifth day of January, 2760 a.u.c. in the
Consulship of Lucius Arminius Faustus and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48516 From: wuffa2001 Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Fulmer" <tfulmer1@...> wrote:
>
> On 1/5/07, wuffa2001 <magewuffa@...> wrote:
> > Salve Consul
> > two of the higher magistracies who have not done this yet.
> > so what are you going to do ,it has been well over 24 hours and still
> > two people who are acting as officers of NR have not done the oath
> > right as the law says one has to do.
> > vale
> > marcus cornelius felix
> >
>
> Salve Cornelius Felix,
>
> As this had already been brought up tonight, I'd suggest you let it
> rest until tomorrow. It is very possible that the two magistrates to
> whom you are referring have not logged in to check their e-mail since
> your message was first sent.
>
> I am not sure who the second in question is, but I know one of them is
> in Eastern Europe and as such is not even awake yet. What good does it
> do to press the issue in 10 different messages if they have not yet
> had a chance to see the first one?
>
> Additionally, bringing it up to all the higher magistrates directly is
> your prerogative if you feel it is needed, they are past the 24 hour
> period and you can act appropriately, but bringing it up to all of
> them individually on the main list just adds clutter to the issue.
>
> You must act as you feel is your obligation of course, these are just
> my thoughts on how to best address your concerns.
>
> Be well,
>
> Ti Octavius Avitus
> --
>
Salve Ti Octavius Avitus

well the Praetrix has said she will not follow the law in this.
she post on the newroman list # 1651 about why.
now she may dis-like the law but as Praetrix she HAS to follow it.
as to the other officer look higher as in one of the Consuls ( he who
does not live in the USA)he also knows better.
YES i am playing hardball. but as to offices following the law I think
I have to.

well my work is done here time to go to bed
vale Marcus Cornelius Felix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48517 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
C. Equitius Cato M. Cornelio Felico sal.

Without begging the question, Marcus Cornelius, I ask you to remember:


The announcement of the Lex Curiata de Imperio states:

"We, the Lictors of the Comita Curiata of Nova Roma, recognize and
accept the results of the elections in the Comitia Centuriata for
consules and praetores, and the election in the Comitia Populi Tributa
for aediles curules. By this lex de imperio we confer imperium as
defined in the Lex Arminia Equitia de Imperio upon these magistrates."

So as of that moment Lucius Arminius Faustus (Sr. Consul), Tiberias
Galerius Paulinus (Jr. Consul), Gaius Equitius Cato (Sr. Praetor),
Aulla Tullia Scholastica (Jr. Praetrix), and Tita Artoria Marcelia and
Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege (Curule Aediles) - all received the
imperium of their offices and thereby all the rights, privileges, nd
obligations of said offices - the right to issue edicta, appoint
scribae, &c.

The Lex Iunia de Iusiurando simply states the wording of the oath; it
contains within itself no timeframe "by which such-and-such-a-date"
the oath must be taken. It does not state any repercussions for *not*
in fact taking the oath at all. Nor does the lex Constitutiva mention
an oath of office.

The lex Vedia de rationem edictum states that "While edicta may be
issued and acted upon under the authority of the issuing magistrate,
edicta shall be published in at least one of the following public fora
within 72 hours of their issuance: the officially sponsored email list
or the officially sponsored Internet message board."

In my opinion the "officially sponsored Internet message board" refers
to the Forum; the "officially sponsored email list" may entail the use
of the membership of the Forum as recipients, but I do not believe
that it covers an entirely seperate message board (such as the
"Announce" List).

And in fact the Announce List itself says: "We don´t recommend here
the posting of magisterial oaths. Any doubt ask the preatores of Nova
Roma." Well, I'm a praetor and I say no, the oaths should be
announced in the Forum.

Now, let's look at the actual chronology of events:


1) On Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:52 pm - Tiberius Galerius Paulinus takes the
oath of office as Consul in English; at 7:59 pm he takes it in Latin.

2) On Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:26 pm - Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus takes
the oath as Censor in English.

3) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 4:57 am - Aula Tullia Scholastica takes the
oath of office as Praetrix in Latin.

4) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 6:12 am - Lucius Arminus Faustus takes the oath
of office as Consul in Latin.

5) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 8:01 am - the Lex Curiata de Imperio is
annoumnced, formally recognizing the granting of imperium to the
consuls, praetors, and curule aediles.

6) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 10:37 am - Gaius Equitius Cato takes the oath of
office as Praetor in Latin. He later (on Thu Jan 4, 2007 9:11 pm)
takes it in English.

7) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 2:29 pm - Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius
Postumianus takes the oath of office as Quaestor in English.

8) on Mon Jan 1, 2007 3:09 pm - Tita Artoria Marcella takes the oath
of office as Curule Aedile in both Latin and English.

9) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 11:22 pm - Gnaeus Equitius Marinus takes the
oath of office as Quaestor in both Latin and English.

10) On Tue Jan 2, 2007 11:31 am - Titus Iulius Sabinus takes the oath
of offioce as Quaestor in both Latin and English.

11) On Tue Jan 2, 2007 3:24 pm - Publius Memmius Albucius takes the
oath of office as Quaestor in both Latin and English.

&c.


Now the only oddities here are the four oaths sworn *before the lex
Curiata de Imperio* was announced. But as the passing of imperium is
not in any way connected to the swearing of the oath, I do not think
it has much relevancy. None of those four acted in any official way
until *after* the lex Curiata de Imperio was announced, so they did
not overstep their bounds and exercize any imperium that they had not
been formally given.

You may write to my office at

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/officivm-c-eqvti-catonis-praetoris

at any time by clicking on the link towards the bottom of the page.

Vale bene,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48518 From: Thomas Fulmer Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
>The Lex Iunia de Iusiurando simply states the wording of the oath; it
contains within itself no timeframe "by which such-and-such-a-date"
the oath must be taken. It does not state any repercussions for *not*
in fact taking the oath at all. Nor does the lex Constitutiva mention
>an oath of office.
>

Greetings All,

I know very little of Nova Roman law, but this discussion had me
searching around the wiki for relevant information. I'm curious as to
whether this order was ever repealed:

===========
Issued 7/7/99 by Dictator Flavius Vedius Germanicus

As legally-appointed Dictator, I hereby alter that requirement (that
oaths must be posted on both the official email list and message
board). The oath of office may henceforth be issued in any
officially-sanctioned Nova Roma forum in front of three or more
witnesses (such as the email list, the message board, a public event,
etc.).
==========

If this has not been repealed, I assume it still has a bearing on both
the above mentioned oath of office requirements, as well as the
Preatrix Scholastica's privacy concerns?

Just curious,

Ti Octavius Avitus

--
Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity.
And so we ask ourselves: will our actions
echo across centuries?
Will strangers hear our names long after
we are gone, and wonder who we were,
how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48519 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
A. Tullia Scholastica Ti. Octavio Avito M. Cornelio Felici quiritibus S.P.D.

This was among the messages not delivered to my normal mailbox today,
but it seems to warrant a response, so I forwarded it.


> ----------
> From: "Thomas Fulmer"
> Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:07:52 -0600
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: A reminder on oaths.
>
> On 1/5/07, wuffa2001 <magewuffa> wrote:
>> Salve Consul
>> two of the higher magistracies who have not done this yet.
>> so what are you going to do ,it has been well over 24 hours and still
>> two people who are acting as officers of NR have not done the oath
>> right as the law says one has to do.

In case you are referring to me, M. Corneli, (and I am not sure if you
are), I posted the oath in both Latin and Phoenician, British dialect,
together with requisite names, on the Announcements board, which is an
official Nova Roman list and acceptable for such purposes.

>> vale
>> marcus cornelius felix
>>
>
> Salve Cornelius Felix,
>
> As this had already been brought up tonight, I'd suggest you let it
> rest until tomorrow. It is very possible that the two magistrates to
> whom you are referring have not logged in to check their e-mail since
> your message was first sent.

Indeed. And messages can get lost, oddly enough.
>
> I am not sure who the second in question is, but I know one of them is
> in Eastern Europe and as such is not even awake yet. What good does it
> do to press the issue in 10 different messages if they have not yet
> had a chance to see the first one?

Rem acu tetigisti.
>
> Additionally, bringing it up to all the higher magistrates directly is
> your prerogative if you feel it is needed, they are past the 24 hour
> period and you can act appropriately, but bringing it up to all of
> them individually on the main list just adds clutter to the issue.
>
> You must act as you feel is your obligation of course, these are just
> my thoughts on how to best address your concerns.

I would add that this gentleman was listed as a lictor in printed
webpages I have, but did not sign the lex curiata, along with several others
listed on said webpage.
>
> Be well,
>
> Ti Octavius Avitus

Vale bene,

A. Tullia Scholastica
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48520 From: Gregory Rose Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Scauro Felici SPD.

There is no present actio available to you as a matter of law at this
point. From the adoption of the lex curiata imperium attached to the
curule magistrates and imperium grants absolute immunity from
prosecution during tenure. Regardless of what laws a curule
magistrate may violate, including a deficiency of the required oath,
that magistrate is immune for the duration of his imperium. You may
file an actio for offences while in office when the relevant
magistrates surrender imperium at the end of their term, but no
praetor is competent to accept one for a curule magistrate during his
term. This is a basic principle of Roman law.

Vale.

Scaurus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48521 From: Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Caeso Buteo absent
Salvete Amici!

I will be gone for about a week to assist my 23 years old daughter to
move homewards after six years absence. Guess if the of man is happy?
;-) She will bring back our seven years old saluki male and also our
six years old Arabian stallion, who I bought to get my daughter to
move home two years ago, now at last is happening.

On the same trip I will also try to mate my five years old saluki
hound bitch, Farisa, now I just will have to wait and see if there
will be any puppies in the middle of March.

This means that I will be away for about a week and all my duties
will be delayed for some time. Please excuse any inconvenience. I
will try to answer all mails as soon as possible, but they might be
heavily delayed as I also have to start up the spring term work with
my pupils.

I really hope that we will see a new year will much real life
activities and constructive development. We don't have much time
with quarrels and we need to continue to build, together.

I wish You all a continuing Happy New Year!
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Senator, Censorius et Consularis
Accensus LAF
Praeses, Triumvir et Praescriptor Academia Thules ad S.R.A. et N.
Editor-in-Chief, Publisher and Owner of "Roman Times Quarterly"
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48522 From: Q. Caecilius Metellus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Calendarius Nundinalis I
Q. Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem.

For the coming nundinum, beginning today, the calendar will be thus as
decreed by the Collegium Pontificum:

a.d. VIII Id. Ian., Fastus
a.d. VII Id. Ian., Comitialis
a.d. VI Id. Ian., Comitialis
a.d. V Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
a.d. IV Id. Ian., Endotercisus
a.d. III Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
pr. Id. Ian., Comitialis
Id. Ian., Nefastus Publicus
a.d. XIX Kal. Feb., Endotercisus

The feriae to be observed during this time are:

Carmentalia (a.d. V Id. Ian. and a.d. III Id. Ian.)
Feriae Iovi (Id. Ian.)

For more information on the character of the days, please reference
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Responsum_Pontificum_de_Diebus_%28Nova_Roma%29
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Roman_Calendar
or, as always, you can send a private message to me.

Optime Valete in Pace Deorum,

QVINTVS·CAECILIVS·L·F·SAB·METELLVS·POSTVMIANVS
PONTIFEX
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48523 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: Calendarius Nundinalis I
Agricola Metello sal.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Caecilius Metellus"
<postumianus@...> wrote:
>
> Q. Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem.
>

[SNIP]

> The feriae to be observed during this time are:
>
> Carmentalia (a.d. V Id. Ian. and a.d. III Id. Ian.)
> Feriae Iovi (Id. Ian.)
>

Is it the case that the Feriae Iovi are observed on each month's Ides?

If so, shall I add it monthly to the calendar page in the wiki?

optime vale!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48524 From: sextus_lucilius_tutor Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: My Oath
I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor
of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people
and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor swear to honor
the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue
the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana
as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way
that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor swear to protect and defend the Constitution
of Nova Roma.

I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Questor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I
accept the position of Questor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Valete, Novi Romani Quirites!

Sextus Lucilius Tutor
Questor NOVAE ROMAE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48525 From: M. Lucretius Agricola Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Roman Market Day this year
M. Lucretius Agricola Omnibus s.p.d.

I am posting this so I can bring the wiki page devoted to this
event to the attention of anyone involved in organizing this event
this year:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Roman_Market_Day

I hope someone here who is involved with planning RMD will keep that
page up to date and also perhaps add some historical information and
pictures.

I would also like to know if there are plans to update
http://www.romanmarketday.com/ .

optime valete!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48526 From: David Kling (Modianus) Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus Gaio Equitio Catoni salutem dicit

I agree with what you have addressed below. I would like to further
illustrate that as Censor I have access to A. Tullia Scholastica's
macronational information. I suspect the true nature of requiring a
"macronational" name is to ensure fraud is not being committed and to ensure
the candidate is qualified (not underage et al). As Censor I can certify
that A. Tullia Scholastica does exist and that her information is up to
date. While I personally feel there is no need for concern in sharing a
macronational name in this public forum, I understand and acknowledge her
concern and feel it the compassionate thing to do to respect her wishes.

This being the case her macronational name, address, etc... is on file with
the censors and I can attest that she is who she claims to be.
Additionally, as Consul from last year I certified that she was able to run
for office.

Therefore, Marcus Cornelius Felix can cease his hostilities towards A.
Tullia Scholastica.

Vale:

Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus
Censor

On 1/6/07, Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> C. Equitius Cato M. Cornelio Felico sal.
>
> Without begging the question, Marcus Cornelius, I ask you to remember:
>
> The announcement of the Lex Curiata de Imperio states:
>
> "We, the Lictors of the Comita Curiata of Nova Roma, recognize and
> accept the results of the elections in the Comitia Centuriata for
> consules and praetores, and the election in the Comitia Populi Tributa
> for aediles curules. By this lex de imperio we confer imperium as
> defined in the Lex Arminia Equitia de Imperio upon these magistrates."
>
> So as of that moment Lucius Arminius Faustus (Sr. Consul), Tiberias
> Galerius Paulinus (Jr. Consul), Gaius Equitius Cato (Sr. Praetor),
> Aulla Tullia Scholastica (Jr. Praetrix), and Tita Artoria Marcelia and
> Iulia Caesar Cytheris Aege (Curule Aediles) - all received the
> imperium of their offices and thereby all the rights, privileges, nd
> obligations of said offices - the right to issue edicta, appoint
> scribae, &c.
>
> The Lex Iunia de Iusiurando simply states the wording of the oath; it
> contains within itself no timeframe "by which such-and-such-a-date"
> the oath must be taken. It does not state any repercussions for *not*
> in fact taking the oath at all. Nor does the lex Constitutiva mention
> an oath of office.
>
> The lex Vedia de rationem edictum states that "While edicta may be
> issued and acted upon under the authority of the issuing magistrate,
> edicta shall be published in at least one of the following public fora
> within 72 hours of their issuance: the officially sponsored email list
> or the officially sponsored Internet message board."
>
> In my opinion the "officially sponsored Internet message board" refers
> to the Forum; the "officially sponsored email list" may entail the use
> of the membership of the Forum as recipients, but I do not believe
> that it covers an entirely seperate message board (such as the
> "Announce" List).
>
> And in fact the Announce List itself says: "We don´t recommend here
> the posting of magisterial oaths. Any doubt ask the preatores of Nova
> Roma." Well, I'm a praetor and I say no, the oaths should be
> announced in the Forum.
>
> Now, let's look at the actual chronology of events:
>
> 1) On Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:52 pm - Tiberius Galerius Paulinus takes the
> oath of office as Consul in English; at 7:59 pm he takes it in Latin.
>
> 2) On Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:26 pm - Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus takes
> the oath as Censor in English.
>
> 3) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 4:57 am - Aula Tullia Scholastica takes the
> oath of office as Praetrix in Latin.
>
> 4) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 6:12 am - Lucius Arminus Faustus takes the oath
> of office as Consul in Latin.
>
> 5) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 8:01 am - the Lex Curiata de Imperio is
> annoumnced, formally recognizing the granting of imperium to the
> consuls, praetors, and curule aediles.
>
> 6) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 10:37 am - Gaius Equitius Cato takes the oath of
> office as Praetor in Latin. He later (on Thu Jan 4, 2007 9:11 pm)
> takes it in English.
>
> 7) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 2:29 pm - Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius
> Postumianus takes the oath of office as Quaestor in English.
>
> 8) on Mon Jan 1, 2007 3:09 pm - Tita Artoria Marcella takes the oath
> of office as Curule Aedile in both Latin and English.
>
> 9) On Mon Jan 1, 2007 11:22 pm - Gnaeus Equitius Marinus takes the
> oath of office as Quaestor in both Latin and English.
>
> 10) On Tue Jan 2, 2007 11:31 am - Titus Iulius Sabinus takes the oath
> of offioce as Quaestor in both Latin and English.
>
> 11) On Tue Jan 2, 2007 3:24 pm - Publius Memmius Albucius takes the
> oath of office as Quaestor in both Latin and English.
>
> &c.
>
> Now the only oddities here are the four oaths sworn *before the lex
> Curiata de Imperio* was announced. But as the passing of imperium is
> not in any way connected to the swearing of the oath, I do not think
> it has much relevancy. None of those four acted in any official way
> until *after* the lex Curiata de Imperio was announced, so they did
> not overstep their bounds and exercize any imperium that they had not
> been formally given.
>
> You may write to my office at
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/officivm-c-eqvti-catonis-praetoris
>
> at any time by clicking on the link towards the bottom of the page.
>
> Vale bene,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48528 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: post. Non. Ian. (a.d. VIII Id. Ian.)
OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est postridie Nonas Ianuarius (ante diem VIII Idus Ianuarius);
haec dies fastus aterque est.


"When, therefore, the ditch was finished, the rampart completed and
the necessary work on the houses done, and the situation required that
they should consider also what form of government they were going to
have, Romulus called an assembly of the people by the advice of his
grandfather, who had instructed him what to say, and told them that
the city [Rome], considering that it was newly built, was sufficiently
adorned both with public and private buildings; but he asked them all
to bear in mind that these were not the most valuable things in
cities. For neither in foreign wars, he said, are deep ditches and
high ramparts sufficient to give the inhabitants an undisturbed
assurance of their safety, but guarantee one thing only, namely, that
they shall suffer no harm through being surprised by an incursion of
the enemy; nor, again, when civil commotions afflict the State, do
private houses and dwellings afford anyone a safe retreat. For these
have been contrived by men for the enjoyment of leisure and
tranquillity in their lives, and with them neither those of their
neighbours who plot against them are prevented from doing mischief nor
do those who are plotted against feel any confidence that they are
free from danger; and no city that has gained splendour from these
adornments only has ever yet become prosperous and great for a long
period, nor, again, has any city from a want of magnificence either in
public or in private buildings ever been hindered from becoming great
and prosperous. But it is other things that preserve cities and make
them great from small beginnings: in foreign wars, strength in arms,
which is acquired by courage and exercise; and in civil commotions,
unanimity among the citizens, and this, he showed, could be most
effectually achieved for the commonwealth by the prudent and just life
of each citizen. Those who practise warlike exercises and at the same
time are masters of their passions are the greatest ornaments to their
country, and these are the men who provide both the commonwealth with
impregnable walls and themselves in their private lives with safe
refuges; but men of bravery, justice and the other virtues are the
result of the form of government when this has been established
wisely, and, on the other hand, men who are cowardly, rapacious and
the slaves of base passions are the product of evil institutions. He
added that he was informed by men who were older and had wide
acquaintance with history that of many large colonies planted in
fruitful regions some had been immediately destroyed by falling into
seditions, and others, after holding out for a short time, had been
forced to become subject to their neighbours and to exchange their
more fruitful country for a worse fortune, becoming slaves instead of
free men; while others, few in numbers and settling in places that
were by no means desirable, had continued, in the first place, to be
free themselves, and, in the second place, to command others; and
neither the successes of the smaller colonies nor the misfortunes of
those that were large were due to any other cause than their form of
government. If, therefore, there had been but one mode of life among
all mankind which made cities prosperous, the choosing of it would not
have been difficult for them; but, as it was, he understood there were
many types of government among both the Greeks and barbarians, and out
of all of them he heard three especially commended by those who had
lived under them, and of these systems none was perfect, but each had
some fatal defects inherent in it, so that the choice among them was
difficult. He therefore asked them to deliberate at leisure and say
whether they would be governed by one man or by a few, or whether they
would establish laws and entrust the protection of the public
interests to the whole body of the people. 'And whichever form of
government you establish,' he said, 'I am ready to comply with your
desire, for I neither consider myself unworthy to command nor refuse
to obey. So far as honours are concerned, I am satisfied with those
you have conferred on me, first, by appointing me leader of the
colony, and, again, by giving my name to the city. For of these
neither a foreign war nor civil dissension nor time, that destroyer of
all that is excellent, nor any other stroke of hostile fortune can
deprive me; but both in life and in death these honours will be mien
to enjoy for all time to come.'" - Dionysius of Halicarnassus, "Roman
Antiquities" 2.3


"They stay up the whole night singing songs and playing the flute,
offering these to the images of the gods; and, when the revelries of
the night are over, after cock-crow, they go down with torches into a
subterranean sanctuary and bring p a carved wooden image, which is
laid naked on a litter. on its forehead it has the sign of the cross,
in gold, and on both its hands two other signs of the same shape, and
two more on its knees; and the five signs are all fashioned in gold.
They carry this carved image seven times around the middle of the
temple precincts, to the sound of flutes and tambourines and hymns,
and after the procession they carry it down again into the crypt. But
if you ask them what this mysterious performance cans they answer:
Today, at this hour, the Kore, that is to say the virgin, has given
birth to the Aeon." - St. Epiphanius of Salamis (A.D. 310-402)

"Mistletoe is, however, seldom found on a hard-oak, and when it is
discovered it is gathered with great ceremony, and particularly on the
6th day of the moon (which for those tribes [Druids] constitutes the
beginning of the months and the years) and after every thirty years of
a generation, because it is then rising in strength and not one half
its full size." - Pliny the Elder, Natural History, XVI.xcv.250

"The last of the mystic twelve days is Epiphany or Twelfth Night, and
it has been selected as a proper season for the expulsion of the
powers of evil in various parts of Europe." - Sir James Frazer, "The
Golden Bough"

Today is the celebration of the Epiphany. Epiphany was traditionally
a Christian feast to celebrate the "shining forth" or revelation of
God to humanity in human form, in the person of Jesus Christ. It
included the birth of Jesus Christ; the visit of the three Magi,
Caspar, Melchior and Balthasar arrived in Bethlehem; and all of Jesus'
childhood events, up to His baptism in the Jordan by John the Baptist.
The feast was initially based on, and viewed as a fulfillment of, the
Jewish Feast of Lights. This was fixed on 6th January, but over time
the Western churches decided to celebrate Christmas on December 25, to
replace the older celebrations of the Brumalia and Saturnalia. The
Eastern churches, refusing to accept the Gregorian Calendar,
continued to treat 6th January as the day marking Jesus's birth. This
has given rise in the west to the notion of a twelve day festival,
starting on 25th December. Today in Eastern Orthodox churches, the
emphasis at this feast is on the shining forth and revelation of Jesus
Christ as the Messiah and second Person of the Holy Trinity at the
time of His baptism. Usually called the Feast of the Theophany, it is
one of the great feasts of the liturgical year; "theophany" is Greek
for "God shining forth".


Valete bene!

Cato



SOURCES

Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Wikipedia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48531 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Salve Praetor,

> "The requirement of magistrates to take an oath of office is hereby
> eliminated. The constitution makes sufficient provision to safeguard
> the honor and integrity of the State and its Religio. Should one or
> more of the comitia decide otherwise, they may enact such a
> requirement through a properly-enacted law."
>
> So, under the general understanding that the most recent legal
> instrument takes precedence, the taking of an oath of office appears
> to have been eliminated entirely; even though the lex Iunia de
> iusiurando was passed *after* the edicta of the Dictator were made (in
> October of 2752 AUC (AD 1999) , the edicta of a Dictator override all
> other legal instruments, including the lex Constitutiva (lex Const.
> I.A.1).

But the dictator's edict explicitly stated that the people "may enact
such a requirement" - and they did so. Hence there is no contradiction,
and the lex is valid, and oaths are required.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Gracchus
octavius@... * http://www.graveyards.com

-"Apes don't read philosophy."
-"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it! Let me correct
you on a few things: Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of
Buddhism is not 'every man for himself'. And the London Underground is
not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up."
-from "A Fish Called Wanda"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48532 From: M. Octavius Gracchus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: so Praetor
Salve Marce Corneli,

> why i ask is there are two novaromai higher magistracies who have not
> done this yet.!If I can show this to be a fact what do i do . start a
> law suit?in your court?

Who are these? Are they refusing to take the oath, or just absent?
Cato has posted a summary, and it seems that the higher magistrates
have all taken the oath (including the Censor who continues from
last year - my oath from May is still binding, but I could reissue it
if you prefer).

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Gracchus
octavius@... * http://www.graveyards.com

-"Apes don't read philosophy."
-"Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it! Let me correct
you on a few things: Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of
Buddhism is not 'every man for himself'. And the London Underground is
not a political movement! Those are all mistakes. I looked them up."
-from "A Fish Called Wanda"
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48533 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: The Oath of Office
Cato T. Octavio quiritibusque SPD

Salvete omnes.


Titus Octavius, the Dictator Vedius Gernmanicus himself "repealed" his
edict by a later one (dated 7/30/99), which reads:

"The requirement of magistrates to take an oath of office is hereby
eliminated. The constitution makes sufficient provision to safeguard
the honor and integrity of the State and its Religio. Should one or
more of the comitia decide otherwise, they may enact such a
requirement through a properly-enacted law." (Edicta dictatoris
MMDCCLII, "Various edicts" 5)

The lex Iunia de iusiurando, with the text of the oath of office, and
the lex Cassia Iunia de iusiurando, which supplied the requirements of
timing &c. were passed in October 2752 and November 2754 respectively,
fulfilling the Dictator's requirement for "properly-enacted" leges
passed in comitia.

As the lex Cassia states that the oath must be taken in one of the
"major public fora" of the Republic, and as the Announce List may
reasonably be understood to be one of those fora, it is only tradition
which dictates that the oaths be taken in the Forum itself.

Valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 48534 From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus Date: 2007-01-06
Subject: Re: A reminder on oaths.
wuffa2001 <magewuffa@...> writes:

[...]
> well the Praetrix has said she will not follow the law in this.

Have you taken leave of your senses? She posted her oath, with her legal
name, in message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NovaRoma-Announce/message/1028

NovaRoma-Announce is an official venue of NovaRoma, as defined by the
constitution and other laws.

CN•EQVIT•MARINVS