----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] A home for Dexter


C. Petronius Dexter writes:

>> My ideal domus is in the Viminal hill in the Vicus Patricius. I put it
>> on my plan of Roma at home, a beautiful plan based on the famous model
>> of Constantine Roma in a book, not on a website.
>>
>> But how can I reside at the same place in your site ?

Go to this URL:

http://monsaventinus.wikia.com/wiki/Vicus_Patricius_%28Viminal_Hill%29

Once there, pick out a domus on that street, edit the page to show
your name as the owner, and you'll be on your way. You can then
create a separate user page for yourself that people will go to when
they click on your name. There you can describe your dream house.

You'll find the domi and villi down toward the bottom of the page,
after the insulae.

Vale,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS




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> Maybe some of the local Christian Churches should review their translations.
> Still, on second thoughts... are you implying that killing another
> human being might be justified?.

> Salve Equiti marine et salvete omnes,
>
> OK. I haven't been precise with my definitions, but I did mean
> killing people, as opposed to killing animals and plants.

> Constantine, and many other saints, had been killing people, not just
> animals and plants like us all.

> A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Equitio Marino quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@... <mailto:fororom%40localnet.com>
> > writes:
>
>>> >> Hmmm...I just visited the Capitoline (it said vicus
>>> >> unguentarius), and did
>>> >> not see any trace of anyone there, just spaces for senators and
>>> >> magistrates...am I missing something? It said to click on edit in order

>>> >> move in...but how?
>
> I see you've moved in to C-X (Number 10, Senate Row), on Clivus
> Capitolinus, just down the street from Cato and me.
>
> ATS: Yes, though I¹m not sure I¹ll be able to stay there. A certain DIPI
> had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his own, and I¹m
> not sure of the title to my new property is clear. No offense, but I had to
> move farther down the street not only to avoid my caterwauling colleague,
> Cato, but more importantly to keep out of sight of aforesaid party. This DIPI
> is a Bonus, as many of us are aware, and we know what THEY think about women
> magistrates. Best not to cross paths any too often.
>
> Now, if we could just get Astur, Cordus, Avitus, Dexter, and some of the
> rest of us up there, we could have some nice discussions in Latin. Of course
> Astur and I would have to go visit Cordus or Avitus, or some other speaker of
> proper Latin in another part of town, since they aren¹t allowed to live on the
> Capitoline and there are other issues in the senatorial section...
>
> What you should
> do next is create a little information page so that when people click
> on your name they get something. If you click on my name you'll see
> what I mean.
>
> ATS: Will try...but even when I am not exhausted from shoveling wet white
> lead, as is the case of late, any and all dialects of advanced cyber speak are
> beyond me. I may speak Latin as well as English, and I may manage some French
> and German, or even still be able to read Sanskrit and Greek, but knit one,
> Perl two, is another matter.
>
> The nice thing about the Wiki format is that when you click on a name
> that has no page associated with it, it pops up this sweet little
> "this page doesn't exist, but you can create it now" thing. Just go
> ahead and create the page in plain text to begin with. You can
> decorate it with bold and italics and whatnot later.
>
> ATS: I might even remember how to do bold and italics, but cyber colors
> would require assistance from Leoninus. Forgot to put the break or whatever
> on my door sign, and am concerned that I might mess up even worse if I tried.
>
> Gratias!
>
> Vale,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
> Messages in this topic
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/53741;
>
>
>
>

> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, "L.
> Vitellius Triarius"
> <lucius_vitellius_triarius@...> wrote:
>
> > There has been some confusion as to how to set up a personal wag on
> > the site.
>
> I DO NOT know what a "personal wag" is. This should have
> said "personal page".
>
> Io Saturnalia!
> Triarius
>
>
>

> Salve Gnaeus:

> I saw this message and it interested me very much, so I would like
> to ask you how to find a home for me. you know, I'm also a new
> citizen here in Nova Roma.

>> I see you've moved in to C-X (Number 10, Senate Row), on Clivus
>> Capitolinus, just down the street from Cato and me.
>>
>> ATS: Yes, though I¹m not sure I¹ll be able to stay there. A
>> certain DIPI
>> had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his own, and I¹m
>> not sure of the title to my new property is clear.

>> Now, if we could just get Astur, Cordus, Avitus, Dexter, and some of the
>> rest of us up there, we could have some nice discussions in Latin.

>> What you should
>> do next is create a little information page so that when people click
>> on your name they get something. If you click on my name you'll see
>> what I mean.
>>
>> ATS: Will try...but even when I am not exhausted from
>> shoveling wet white
>> lead, as is the case of late, any and all dialects of advanced
>> cyber speak are
>> beyond me. I may speak Latin as well as English, and I may manage
>> some French
>> and German, or even still be able to read Sanskrit and Greek, but knit one,
>> Perl two, is another matter.

>
> Salve amice et salvete quirites,
>
> I endorse this completely. Finally someone has an idea of what a non-
> profit organization is supposed to do to get money.
>
> Valete,
> L. Livia Plauta
>
>

>
> Salve amice et salvete quirites,
>
> I endorse this completely. Finally someone has an idea of what a non-
> profit organization is supposed to do to get money.
>
> Valete,
> L. Livia Plauta
>
>

> >> ATS: Yes, though I¹m not sure I¹ll be able to stay there.

> >> certain DIPI
> >> had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his

> >> not sure of the title to my new property is clear.
>
> My guess is the only person who has any say concerning you

> there is Triarius, since he's the one who created this lovely

> city for us.
>
>I may speak Latin as well as English, and I may manage
> >> some French
> >> and German, or even still be able to read Sanskrit and Greek,

> >> Perl two, is another matter.
>
> Just ask if you need some help.
>
> Vale,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>

>
> A. Tullia Scholastica M. Hirtio Ahenobarbo quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> Salve Gaia Iulia!
>
> Actually I am from California, USA. You must have mistaken me for another
> Ahenobarbus.
>
> ATS: Probably C. Iulia has mistaken you for T. Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus,
> who is in fact Swedish, and as a senator and former magistrate, is also fairly
> well known in NR. By residence at least, so is one of the moderators of my
> Latin immersion seminar last summer, who lives in Stockholm. However, he was
> born and raised in the US, so it is fair to assume that Sweden allows
> immigration, and that not all who reside in Sweden were born there, as C.
> Iulia seems to believe.
>
>
> The cognomina Ahenobarbus is very common in NR.
>
> ATS: Cognomen; cognomina are plural, as are comitia.
>
> You will not find me on the Album Civium because I am not yet a full citizen
> of Nova Roma.
>
> ATS: And only members of the censors¹ office and their provincial
> governors will find those. The records of provisional citizens are not
> available to the NR public.
>
> Though we have a seperation of Church and State in the US. And I know a bit
> about the influence of the Catholic Church/Christianity in South America from
> conversations I have had with a friend of mine. (originally from Lima,
> Peru...now resident of the US)
>
> I think I can see where you were coming from now with your comments. I
> enjoyed having a dialogue with you.
>
> Vale!
>
> Marcus Hirtius
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/53801;
>
>
>
>
>

>

>
> OPTION 2. For a page not in the MA Wiki:
>
> [http://www.yourpesonalwebsite.com|L•VITELLIUS•TRIARIUS]
>

>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Vitellius Triarius"
> <lucius_vitellius_triarius@> wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > OPTION 2. For a page not in the MA Wiki:
> >
> > [http://www.yourpesonalwebsite.com|L•VITELLIUS•TRIARIUS]
> >
>
> Agricola Triario sal.
>
> Shouldn't that be
>
> [http://www.yourpesonalwebsite.com L•VITELLIUS•TRIARIUS]
>
> With a *space* instead of a pipe?
>
> Optime vale!
>

>
> Salve Plauta, et salvete omnes,
>
> L. Livia Plauta <cases@...> writes:
>
> > I know taking a position in this list will open a can of worms,
>
> Here you go! One nice fresh can'o'worms!
>
> > but it's because of cases like Constantines' that many people

> > (notice, not all) christians are hypocrites.
> > They've got a religion that accepts the commandment "Do not kill",
>
> Well no, they don't. What you're presenting here is what some people
> call a straw-man argument, because it substitutes a simplistic and
> obviously wrong statement for the truth, and provides you with
> something you can then carry on a flamewar with.
>
> Leaving aside the original Hebrew for those with a scholarly bent in
> that direction, let's just consider the words taught to Christians who
> learn the commandments in the English language:
>
> Exodus, 20:13 "You shall not murder." (King James Bible)
> Deuteronomy 5:17 "You shall not murder." (King James Bible)
>
> Those are the two injunctions which constitute the commandment against
> unlawful killing of a human being (murder). As far as I know, no
> western religion enjoins its followers to avoid all killing. Some
> eastern religions do, but they hardly come under the umbrella of
> Christianity.
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>

> A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Da: "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
> Data: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:13:09 -0000
> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine
>
> Cato C. Iuliae Agrippae sal.
>
> Salve Iulia Agrippa.
>
> Now that's an interesting question in regards to the
> religio: why do
> we need to worship the gods at all? I take for
> granted that on one
> level we want to get something from Them: good
> harvests, healthy
> children, sound marriages, safe travel, a secure
> State &c. But do the
> gods demand worship? What happens if They don't get
> it? In the
> religio is there any kind of "contract" or
> "covenant" which ensures
> the pax Deorum?
>
> The monotheists would reply to the second point that
> even if you don't
> know about or "believe in" the Law of Gravity, it
> still affects you.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] A home for Dexter


Salve Lusitane,

Lucius Fidelius Lusitanus <brunocantermi@...> writes:

> Salve Gnaeus:

Please call me Marine (when addressing me directly) or Marinus, for
casual conversation. You're welcome to call me Gnae Equiti Marine if
you're addressing me formally, but it's hardly necessary if we're not
doing official business.

> I saw this message and it interested me very much, so I would like
> to ask you how to find a home for me. you know, I'm also a new
> citizen here in Nova Roma.

Our good friend Triarius has given you many choices. I suggest you go
to http://monsaventinus.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page and look around.
Pick out a hill you'd like to have an address on, and then find a
street that suits you. If you need help editing the various wiki
pages, just ask for help. I can do it for you, and I'm sure many
others here can too. We'll get you set up in a place you want to be.

Vale,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS




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> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de Lucius Quirinus
> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de dezembro de 2007 13:23
> Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: Inoltra: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine/THE LAW OF GRAVITY IS
> NOT A FAITH
>
> SALVE CATO
>
>
> I just would like to underline that the Law of Gravity is NOT
> a Faith; it is in fact a Mathematical Equation that describes
> the movements of objects within a gravitational field.
>
> It has been successfully reconfirmed experimentally millions
> of times on many occasions such as sending people to the
> Moon, spacecrafts beyond the Solar System et similia.
>
> I deem the word "Believe" it is not appropriate meaning that
> this issue is not questionable.
>
> VALE OPTIME
> LVCIVS Q. VESTA
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> ha
> scritto:
>
> > A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Da: "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
> > Data: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:13:09 -0000
> > Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine
> >
> > Cato C. Iuliae Agrippae sal.
> >
> > Salve Iulia Agrippa.
> >
> > Now that's an interesting question in regards to the
> > religio: why do
> > we need to worship the gods at all? I take for
> > granted that on one
> > level we want to get something from Them: good
> > harvests, healthy
> > children, sound marriages, safe travel, a secure
> > State &c. But do the
> > gods demand worship? What happens if They don't get
> > it? In the
> > religio is there any kind of "contract" or
> > "covenant" which ensures
> > the pax Deorum?
> >
> > The monotheists would reply to the second point that
> > even if you don't
> > know about or "believe in" the Law of Gravity, it
> > still affects you.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Hirtius" <marcushirtiusahenobarbus@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:25 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine - To Ahenobarbus :-)


> Salve Gaia Iulia!
>
> Actually I am from California, USA. You must have mistaken me for another Ahenobarbus. The cognomina Ahenobarbus is very common in NR.
>
> You will not find me on the Album Civium because I am not yet a full citizen of Nova Roma.
>
> Though we have a seperation of Church and State in the US. And I know a bit about the influence of the Catholic Church/Christianity in South America from conversations I have had with a friend of mine. (originally from Lima, Peru...now resident of the US)
>
> I think I can see where you were coming from now with your comments. I enjoyed having a dialogue with you.
>
> Vale!
>
> Marcus Hirtius
>
>
>
>
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> "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...

> > writes:
>
>>> >> Hmmm...I just visited the Capitoline (it said vicus
>>> >> unguentarius), and did
>>> >> not see any trace of anyone there, just spaces for senators and
>>> >> magistrates...am I missing something? It said to click on edit in

>>> >> move in...but how?
>
> I see you've moved in to C-X (Number 10, Senate Row), on Clivus
> Capitolinus, just down the street from Cato and me.
>
> ATS: Yes, though I1m not sure I1ll be able to stay there. A certain

> had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his own, and

> not sure of the title to my new property is clear.

> No offense, but I had to
> move farther down the street not only to avoid my caterwauling colleague,
> Cato, but more importantly to keep out of sight of aforesaid party. This

> is a Bonus, as many of us are aware, and we know what THEY think about

> magistrates.

> Best not to cross paths any too often.

> "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...

> > writes:
>
>>> >> Hmmm...I just visited the Capitoline (it said vicus
>>> >> unguentarius), and did
>>> >> not see any trace of anyone there, just spaces for senators and
>>> >> magistrates...am I missing something? It said to click on edit in

>>> >> move in...but how?
>
> I see you've moved in to C-X (Number 10, Senate Row), on Clivus
> Capitolinus, just down the street from Cato and me.
>
> ATS: Yes, though I1m not sure I1ll be able to stay there. A certain

> had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his own, and

> not sure of the title to my new property is clear.

> No offense, but I had to
> move farther down the street not only to avoid my caterwauling colleague,
> Cato, but more importantly to keep out of sight of aforesaid party. This

> is a Bonus, as many of us are aware, and we know what THEY think about

> magistrates.

> Best not to cross paths any too often.

>> I see you've moved in to C-X (Number 10, Senate Row), on Clivus
>> Capitolinus, just down the street from Cato and me.
>>
>> ATS: Yes, though I1m not sure I1ll be able to stay there. A
>> certain DIPI
>> had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his own, and

>> not sure of the title to my new property is clear.

>My guess is the only person who has any say concerning you staying
>there is Triarius, since he's the one who created this lovely virtual
>city for us.

>Right now, my old friend Palladius is keeping himself at C-1 (Number
>1, Senate Row). Perhaps he mistakenly placed his name on multiple
>properties earlier, but that's all taken care of now.

>
> Salve Citizens,
>
> I recently picked up the book, "Augustus" by Anthony Everitt, and I

>
> You might also enjoy, "Cicero" by the same author. A further look

>
> Io Saturnalia!!!
> Lucius Iulius Regulus
>
>
>

> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> By the way, since youÂ’re next door (weÂ’re neighbors on the Clivus
> Palatinus too) youÂ’ll have to bring by a bottle of Black Bush or JamesonÂ’s.

> Marcus Hirtius wrote:
> > The cognomina Ahenobarbus is very common in NR.
>
> Cognomen; cognomina are plural, as are comitia.

>
> Salvete
>
> Even the OT has passages that in essence will say, "Pick up rock,

> until frothy," depending on the transgression. This has nothing to

> with the 6th commandment.
>
> Valete,
> Q. Valerius Callidus
>
> ---

>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Decio Iunio Palladio Invicto quiritibus bonae
> voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
>
> Salve Scholastica,
>
> This gift of the Vetelli is an incredible piece of work. They deserve our
> thanks.
>
>
> ATS: Indeed they do. It is a wonderful thing.
>
>> > "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...
>> <mailto:fororom%40localnet.com>
> <mailto:fororom%40localnet.com>
>>> > > writes:
>> >
>>>>>> >>> >> Hmmm...I just visited the Capitoline (it said vicus
>>>>>> >>> >> unguentarius), and did
>>>>>> >>> >> not see any trace of anyone there, just spaces for senators and
>>>>>> >>> >> magistrates...am I missing something? It said to click on edit

> order
> to
>>>>>> >>> >> move in...but how?
>> >
>> > I see you've moved in to C-X (Number 10, Senate Row), on Clivus
>> > Capitolinus, just down the street from Cato and me.
>> >
>> > ATS: Yes, though I1m not sure I1ll be able to stay there. A certain
> DIPI
>> > had put his name on all of the vacant villae, though not on his own, and
> I1m
>> > not sure of the title to my new property is clear.
>
> That was my general unfamiliarity with Wiki, which I am now catching on to.
> (at least I hope I am) My
> name is on my domus space now.
>
> ATS: I am probably more unfamiliar with the wiki than you.
>
> What you are referring to is when you click on an empty domus and find a
> name already there. I was
> confused by that too. Whenever I clicked on one yesterday, I found Laenas'
> name, today I find the
> name of C. Sentius Leoninus. I'm not sure if that is the name of the last
> person to edit any Wiki page
> but it can easily be changed.
>
> ATS: Leoninus is my co-magister on Latinitas, and a fine Latinist. He¹s
> a quiet fellow, but reads several of our lists. He tried to move onto the
> Palatine, and found that my name was there, though I most certainly did not
> put it there, and in any case am not financially able to be the landlady for
> most of Rome.
>
>> > No offense, but I had to
>> > move farther down the street not only to avoid my caterwauling colleague,
>> > Cato, but more importantly to keep out of sight of aforesaid party. This
> DIPI
>> > is a Bonus, as many of us are aware, and we know what THEY think about
> women
>> > magistrates.
>
> Is there a reason for your calumnies?
>
> ATS: ?????!!!!! There are no calumnies! I was teasing, as I often do! I
> happen to have a good sense of humor, something which is lacking all too often
> around here. Some of us do, however, know about the gender attitudes
> displayed by some of the Boni (not necessarily you, however; I don¹t know your
> views on that).
>
>
> My trouble with Wiki makes me a bad
> neighbor?
>
> ATS: No, no! No doubt I have worse trouble with it than you, or most
> anyone else. To me, the wiki is more mysterious than the Pythia.
>
>
> By all means
> then, please move to the other end of street.
>
>> > Best not to cross paths any too often.
>
> How nice of you to say. We¹ve met once, without incident, at Roman Market
> Days in 2005. I
> introduced you to my wife and oldest son (who was just starting to walk)
> and we chatted amiably, if
> not in any depth. Not sure where this apparent animus comes from.
>
> ATS: There is no animus! Marinus, Cato, and I have been joshing about
> Cato¹s double dactyls at all hours, and about several other things; he didn¹t
> get upset when I said that I had to avoid his caterwauling, or when Marinus
> said he should have no more Irish coffee, so why should you if I tease you
> about the Boni? You seem to be an even-tempered person, a typical New England
> patrician sort, not one of the local hotheads...and surely you recall that
> warm reception I got from that crew, one which very nearly drove me out of NR,
> so gracious it was. Here, however, we were clearly teasing one another.
>
> The Mons Aventinus is a wonderful piece of work, a wonderful gift to the
> citizens (and an enticement to prospective ones), and it¹s a place where we
> can be a little less serious than we are here! If I say Marinus is keeping me
> up all night with his telescopic observations of the stars (or, for that
> matter, that he is turning his telescopes to other, less benign, pursuits) and
> Cato is declaiming double dactyls all night long, we are simply teasing one
> another! We are friends! If I say I better not cross the path of any Bonus
> too often, I am teasing, too, especially in your case. Now, there are indeed
> Boni (and others) I would not care to meet, but you are not among them. In
> fact, I would like to meet you and the other Novae Britanniae citizens again,
> if Market Days might ever reappear.
>
> Yes, I remember our meeting, and was glad that we could meet on a friendly
> basis. Wish we had been able to chat longer, and get to know each other
> better...you might have understood my gentle joshing better. I bear you no
> ill will, and cannot imagine how you would have come to that conclusion from
> some obviously jocular exchanges we had been having. Oh, the manifold perils
> of e-mail!
>
> Presumably your eldest is about ready for preschool now...
>
> Vale,
>
> Palladius
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
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> A. Tullia Scholastica T. Octavio Pio Ahenobarbo quiritibus bonae voluntatis
> S.P.D.
>
>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica wrote:
>> > Marcus Hirtius wrote:
>>> > > The cognomina Ahenobarbus is very common in NR.
>> >
>> > Cognomen; cognomina are plural, as are comitia.
>
> Salve,
>
> But Ahenobarbus is my agnomen, awarded by the censors, not a cognomen.
> My cognomen is Pius, which really should be an agnomen as well, but is a
> translation of my actual last name so I use it as cognomen.
>
> ATS: It doesn¹t seem to be an agnomen of distinction, though...I know
> that I would not like to be honored by being called Ahenobarba. ;-) You guys
> can keep the beards...
>
> Pius, on the other hand, DOES seem to be an agnomen of distinction, unless
> it is indeed one¹s macro name.
>
> ...did the above make sense? It did to me, but it's half past one here
> so my perception is somewhat lacking.
>
> ATS: You¹re doing fine, even at such an early hour. The night is young at
> a mere one in the morning.
>
> If Scholastica points out I'm abusing Latin, I probably am.
>
> ATS: It was my friend Hirtius Redbeard, not you...and the numerous crimes
> in which comitia are considered singular, whereas they are the plural of
> comitium. Grammatically, cognomen and agnomen are pretty much the same; they
> are third declension consonant-stem neuters, and form their plurals in ­[in]a:
> cognomina, agnomina. Abuse of Latin is all too common in NR, for which the AT
> has some cures, but the medicine is quite strong, and only the hardy survive.
> If we could just hand out a cool million, however, maybe we would have more
> who tried to be the sole survivor (i.e., the one with the highest marks) in
> Latin. Of course, then the praeceptores would have to have similar
> compensation...
>
>
> I do have
> red beard and a last name which translates to the English word "pious",
> though. Which doesn't mean the same thing as pius, which is closer to
> dutiful than pious. Pius is the closest the romans came to that concept,
> though, I believe.
>
> ATS: Indeed, Pius has a significance rather different from its English
> derivative. Pius Aeneas was not necessarily on his knees all the time; he
> was, however, dutiful.
>
> And those who inspect TOPA¹s Album page will find that he DOES have a red
> beard...
>
> Vale, Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.
>
> Vale, et valete.
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>
> Salve,
>
> I also have a red beard, friend. (or goatee at least) And that is

> I chose the cognomen Ahenobarbus. (Ahenobarbus was listed as a
> possible cognomen to choose on the "Choosing a Roman name" portion

> the wiki, so I figured it was alright.)
>
> Vale,
>
> M. Hirtius Ahenobarbus
>

> I also have a red beard, friend.>>>

> >> > No offense, but I had to
> >> > move farther down the street not only to avoid my caterwauling

> >> > Cato, but more importantly to keep out of sight of aforesaid

> > DIPI
> >> > is a Bonus, as many of us are aware, and we know what THEY

> > women
> >> > magistrates.
> >
> > Is there a reason for your calumnies?
> >
> > ATS: ?????!!!!! There are no calumnies! I was teasing, as I

> > happen to have a good sense of humor, something which is lacking

> > around here. Some of us do, however, know about the gender

> > displayed by some of the Boni (not necessarily you, however; I

> > views on that).

>> ATS: There is no animus! Marinus, Cato, and I have been
>>joshing about Cato's double dactyls at all hours, and about several

> > get upset when I said that I had to avoid his caterwauling, or

> > said he should have no more Irish coffee, so why should you if I

> > about the Boni?

>You seem to be an even-tempered person, a typical New England
> > patrician sort, not one of the local hotheads...and surely you
>>recall that warm reception I got from that crew, one which very
>>nearly drove me out of NR,
> > so gracious it was.

>Here, however, we were clearly teasing one another.
> >
> > The Mons Aventinus is a wonderful piece of work, a wonderful

> > citizens (and an enticement to prospective ones), and it¹s a

> > can be a little less serious than we are here! If I say Marinus

> > up all night with his telescopic observations of the stars (or,

> > matter, that he is turning his telescopes to other, less benign,
>>pursuits)

>>If I say I better not cross the path of any Bonus
> > too often, I am teasing, too, especially in your case. Now,

> > Boni (and others) I would not care to meet, but you are not among

> > fact, I would like to meet you and the other Novae Britanniae

> > if Market Days might ever reappear.

> > Yes, I remember our meeting, and was glad that we could meet

> > basis. Wish we had been able to chat longer, and get to know

> > better...you might have understood my gentle joshing better. I

> > ill will, and cannot imagine how you would have come to that

> > some obviously jocular exchanges we had been having. Oh, the
>>manifold perils of e-mail!

> > Presumably your eldest is about ready for preschool now...

>
> Salve Palladi,

> "bcatfd@..." <bcatfd@...> writes:
>
> > By the way, since you're next door (we're neighbors on the Clivus
> > Palatinus too) you'll have to bring by a bottle of Black Bush or

>
> I think that can be easily managed. Also, how do you feel about
> Remy-Martin 1738? I've been enjoying a snifter of that with a few
> squares of dark chocolate as a way to ease away the cares of the
>day.

> Salvete
>
> I think we must remember that for those who do
> believe in a deity, there are
> also "religious equations" and endless reconfirmed
> proofs of their
> existence, and it is also not questionable for
> them!!!
>
> Besides, if one thinks religions are based on
> useless or ridiculous dogmas,
> perhaps I agree... But let's not forget that Science
> is also based on
> several "dogmas". The only difference is that these
> "scientific dogmas" can
> be "proved" over the scientific method.
>
> And let's also not forget that this scientific
> method on which Science is
> epistemologically based nowadays has only been
> developed in the last few
> centuries... Only in these last few centuries people
> do need scientific
> method to prove something! It just did not exist in
> the past, and people did
> not need it to prove, and everything in what they
> based their knowledge was
> known as "fact" instead of just faith....
>
> I have no doubt that our current science will not
> also last many centuries!
> Why would it? Society changes, knowledge changes,
> science changes, paradigms
> change, epistemology changes. If what we do
> "believe" or "prove" nowadays is
> so much concrete, solid, obvious, everything what
> our ancestors did
> "believe" or "prove" was identically concrete,
> solid, obvious.
>
> Valete
>
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> > -----Mensagem original-----
> > De: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de
> Lucius Quirinus
> > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de dezembro de 2007
> 13:23
> > Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Assunto: Inoltra: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine/THE LAW OF
> GRAVITY IS
> > NOT A FAITH
> >
> > SALVE CATO
> >
> >
> > I just would like to underline that the Law of
> Gravity is NOT
> > a Faith; it is in fact a Mathematical Equation
> that describes
> > the movements of objects within a gravitational
> field.
> >
> > It has been successfully reconfirmed
> experimentally millions
> > of times on many occasions such as sending people
> to the
> > Moon, spacecrafts beyond the Solar System et
> similia.
> >
> > I deem the word "Believe" it is not appropriate
> meaning that
> > this issue is not questionable.
> >
> > VALE OPTIME
> > LVCIVS Q. VESTA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > > A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Da: "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
> > > Data: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:13:09 -0000
> > > Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine
> > >
> > > Cato C. Iuliae Agrippae sal.
> > >
> > > Salve Iulia Agrippa.
> > >
> > > Now that's an interesting question in regards to
> the
> > > religio: why do
> > > we need to worship the gods at all? I take for
> > > granted that on one
> > > level we want to get something from Them: good
> > > harvests, healthy
> > > children, sound marriages, safe travel, a secure
> > > State &c. But do the
> > > gods demand worship? What happens if They don't
> get
> > > it? In the
> > > religio is there any kind of "contract" or
> > > "covenant" which ensures
> > > the pax Deorum?
> > >
> > > The monotheists would reply to the second point
> that
> > > even if you don't
> > > know about or "believe in" the Law of Gravity,
> it
> > > still affects you.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Cato
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Be sure that, for example, the Newton's Equations
> will always be confirmed , as they follow the essence
> of this Universe

>
> At least in reasonably 'flat' spacetime. They break down in places
> where the gravitational gradient is significant, as Einstein
> discovered back around 1915. That's why he came up with General
> Relativity.
>
> It's a trivial exercise to derive Newton's universal law of
> gravitation from the Field Equation of General Relativity if you set
> the gravitational derivative to zero. Anyone who's completed a
> graduate class in relativity has done it. So it's not as if Newton
> were wrong. He was just incomplete for some situations.

>>I'm not even to bother pointing out yet again the Boni have not been

> Remy Martin 1738? I'll be right over. I love Remy Martin, though I
> haven't had it for a few years (had to prioritze the last few years,
> and diapers and such have to come first).

> I do keep a bottle of 12 year old Bowmore for special occasions which
> we could try some time.

> Don't know if you're a Scotch man, but I
> assume you are since you enjoy Irish aqua vitae.

>
> Laenas Pallidio Sal.
>
> >>I'm not even to bother pointing out yet again the Boni have not been
> an active organization for several years. It gives some people a
> raison d'être to continue to bring it up, I don't know what they'd do
> without us. Invent us. I'm thinking we should come back, decoder
> rings, secret handshakes, the whole lot.<<
>
>
> If we do come back, I want to use a new secret handshake. Meet me at
> the Bonicave and I'll show it to you.
>

> Dammit, I *knew* there was a Bonicave here somewhere.

>
> "Scientific Dogmas"..??? The 2 words are completely
> anthithetic SCIENCE is all that is NOT DOGMA ...
>
> Be sure that, for example, the Newton's Equations
> will always be confirmed , as they follow the essence
> of this Universe; those are not Opinions are proven
> facts.
>
> VALETE
> LVCIVS Q. VESTA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Titus Arminius Genialis <tagenialis@...>
> ha scritto:
>
> > Salvete
> >
> > I think we must remember that for those who do
> > believe in a deity, there are
> > also "religious equations" and endless reconfirmed
> > proofs of their
> > existence, and it is also not questionable for
> > them!!!
> >
> > Besides, if one thinks religions are based on
> > useless or ridiculous dogmas,
> > perhaps I agree... But let's not forget that Science
> > is also based on
> > several "dogmas". The only difference is that these
> > "scientific dogmas" can
> > be "proved" over the scientific method.
> >
> > And let's also not forget that this scientific
> > method on which Science is
> > epistemologically based nowadays has only been
> > developed in the last few
> > centuries... Only in these last few centuries people
> > do need scientific
> > method to prove something! It just did not exist in
> > the past, and people did
> > not need it to prove, and everything in what they
> > based their knowledge was
> > known as "fact" instead of just faith....
> >
> > I have no doubt that our current science will not
> > also last many centuries!
> > Why would it? Society changes, knowledge changes,
> > science changes, paradigms
> > change, epistemology changes. If what we do
> > "believe" or "prove" nowadays is
> > so much concrete, solid, obvious, everything what
> > our ancestors did
> > "believe" or "prove" was identically concrete,
> > solid, obvious.
> >
> > Valete
> >
> > TITUS ARMINIUS GENIALIS
> > Quaestor Electus
> > Legatus Pro Praetore Provinciae Brasiliae
> > Interpres Linguae Lusitanicae
> > Scriba Censoris
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> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Mensagem original-----
> > > De: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de
> > Lucius Quirinus
> > > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de dezembro de 2007
> > 13:23
> > > Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Assunto: Inoltra: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine/THE LAW OF
> > GRAVITY IS
> > > NOT A FAITH
> > >
> > > SALVE CATO
> > >
> > >
> > > I just would like to underline that the Law of
> > Gravity is NOT
> > > a Faith; it is in fact a Mathematical Equation
> > that describes
> > > the movements of objects within a gravitational
> > field.
> > >
> > > It has been successfully reconfirmed
> > experimentally millions
> > > of times on many occasions such as sending people
> > to the
> > > Moon, spacecrafts beyond the Solar System et
> > similia.
> > >
> > > I deem the word "Believe" it is not appropriate
> > meaning that
> > > this issue is not questionable.
> > >
> > > VALE OPTIME
> > > LVCIVS Q. VESTA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> ha
> > > scritto:
> > >
> > > > A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Da: "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
> > > > Data: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:13:09 -0000
> > > > Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine
> > > >
> > > > Cato C. Iuliae Agrippae sal.
> > > >
> > > > Salve Iulia Agrippa.
> > > >
> > > > Now that's an interesting question in regards to
> > the
> > > > religio: why do
> > > > we need to worship the gods at all? I take for
> > > > granted that on one
> > > > level we want to get something from Them: good
> > > > harvests, healthy
> > > > children, sound marriages, safe travel, a secure
> > > > State &c. But do the
> > > > gods demand worship? What happens if They don't
> > get
> > > > it? In the
> > > > religio is there any kind of "contract" or
> > > > "covenant" which ensures
> > > > the pax Deorum?
> > > >
> > > > The monotheists would reply to the second point
> > that
> > > > even if you don't
> > > > know about or "believe in" the Law of Gravity,
> > it
> > > > still affects you.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Cato
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>My thanks to this year aediles for their initiative! A special
>thought goes to one of them: Curule Aedilis Tita Artoria Marcella
>you have all my respect for your fine dedication, good inspiration
>and excellent work.

> scroll all the way down to
> "Objective Beauty in the Classical Canon" November 30, 2007
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/
>
> In Ancient times, philosophy, beauty, mathematics, music were
> understood to be connected! I think to be modern we must look to the
> past;-)
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
> >
> > "Scientific Dogmas"..??? The 2 words are completely
> > anthithetic SCIENCE is all that is NOT DOGMA ...
> >
>

>
> Salve, Palladi, et salvete omnes bonae voluntatis.
>
>
>
> Salve Scholastica,
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> , "A.
> Tullia Scholastica"
> <fororom@...> wrote:
>
>>>>> > >> > No offense, but I had to
>>>>> > >> > move farther down the street not only to avoid my caterwauling
> colleague,
>>>>> > >> > Cato, but more importantly to keep out of sight of aforesaid
> party. This
>>> > > DIPI
>>>>> > >> > is a Bonus, as many of us are aware, and we know what THEY
> think about
>>> > > women
>>>>> > >> > magistrates.
>>> > >
>>> > > Is there a reason for your calumnies?
>>> > >
>>> > > ATS: ?????!!!!! There are no calumnies! I was teasing, as I
> often do! I
>>> > > happen to have a good sense of humor, something which is lacking
> all too often
>>> > > around here. Some of us do, however, know about the gender
> attitudes
>>> > > displayed by some of the Boni (not necessarily you, however; I
> don¹t know your
>>> > > views on that).
>
> Ah well, I blame this medium of email, one can never quite tell
> unless he knows someone better.
>
> ATS2: Perhaps...e-mail is all too often misunderstood.
>
> You can have a sharp tongue at times
>
> ATS2: Who, me? There are a couple of young women here who have theirs
> honed to a keen edge, and one who has been around longer is equipped with
> venom as well. And then there are certain others, who of late have been
> taking out their bitterness against Christianity...
>
> and I was scratching my head trying to figure out why I was on the
> receiving end today. My apologies for misunderstanding your intent,
> I've been out of the forum too long.
>
> ATS2: Believe me, you were not the intended recipient of anything, not to
> mention that all of this was in jest. I just wondered if you had bought up
> the rest of Senate Row. Apologies accepted.
>
> Just for the record, I have no opposition to women magistrates and
> never had, in fact I recently endorsed one on this list and have
> voted for them in the past.
>
> ATS2: Good to hear that.
>
> I'm not even to bother pointing out yet again the Boni have not been
> an active organization for several years.
>
> ATS2: Well, that¹s what they say, but I don¹t know about that...
>
>
> It gives some people a
> raison d'être to continue to bring it up, I don't know what they'd do
> without us. Invent us. I'm thinking we should come back, decoder
> rings, secret handshakes, the whole lot.
>
>
>>> >> ATS: There is no animus! Marinus, Cato, and I have been
>>> >>joshing about Cato's double dactyls at all hours, and about several
> other things; he didn¹t
>>> > > get upset when I said that I had to avoid his caterwauling, or
> when Marinus
>>> > > said he should have no more Irish coffee, so why should you if I
> tease you
>>> > > about the Boni?
>
> In retrospect, no reason at all why not.
>
> ATS2: Glad that that is settled. We are just having some innocent fun.
>
>> >You seem to be an even-tempered person, a typical New England
>>> > > patrician sort, not one of the local hotheads...and surely you
>>> >>recall that warm reception I got from that crew, one which very
>>> >>nearly drove me out of NR,
>>> > > so gracious it was.
>
> I remember. I also remember you weren't entirely blameless but that
> is in the past. Mistakes were made all around.
>
> ATS2: Be that as it may, so long as my cranial contents keep working, I
> shall never forget my welcome into Nova Roma. I would never have expected
> such a reception.
>
>> >Here, however, we were clearly teasing one another.
>>> > >
>>> > > The Mons Aventinus is a wonderful piece of work, a wonderful
> gift to the
>>> > > citizens (and an enticement to prospective ones), and it¹s a
> place where we
>>> > > can be a little less serious than we are here! If I say Marinus
> is keeping me
>>> > > up all night with his telescopic observations of the stars (or,
> for that
>>> > > matter, that he is turning his telescopes to other, less benign,
>>> >>pursuits)
>
> Well, he certainly has a good view from his villa. If he aims his
> telescope elsewhere, who am I to criticize?
>
> ATS2: Ah, but others might not be so merciful...the IIviri, perhaps. Or
> the praetores...
> By the way, where are the members of the clergy? Last time I checked, there
> wasn¹t even the humblest sacerdos on sacerdotal row...how was anyone to know
> if his lararium was oriented properly and he was performing the rituals
> correctly? Orthopraxis is very demanding.
>
>>> >>If I say I better not cross the path of any Bonus
>>> > > too often, I am teasing, too, especially in your case. Now,
> there are indeed
>>> > > Boni (and others) I would not care to meet, but you are not among
> them. In
>>> > > fact, I would like to meet you and the other Novae Britanniae
> citizens again,
>>> > > if Market Days might ever reappear.
>
> Hopefully they will again.
>
> ATS2: Hopefully, however unlikely that may seem.
>
>>> > > Yes, I remember our meeting, and was glad that we could meet
> on a friendly
>>> > > basis. Wish we had been able to chat longer, and get to know
> each other
>>> > > better...you might have understood my gentle joshing better. I
> bear you no
>>> > > ill will, and cannot imagine how you would have come to that
> conclusion from
>>> > > some obviously jocular exchanges we had been having. Oh, the
>>> >>manifold perils of e-mail!
>
> Yes, a perfectly innocent exchange can be misread so easily. That is
> what happened here, clearly.
>
> ATS2: Indeed.
>
>>> > > Presumably your eldest is about ready for preschool now...
>
> Yes, he started in September. They grow so quickly...
>
> ATS2: Though perhaps not quickly enough at times when a Borg maturation
> chamber might be desirable. The lepidopterans seem to have a good system for
> transforming from juvenile to adult...and they don¹t have to worry about
> diapers, ever...
>
> Vale,
>
> Palladius
>
> Vale,
>
> Scholastica
>
>
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>
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> writes:
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>> > Dammit, I *knew* there was a Bonicave here somewhere.
>
> ATS: We knew it all the time. Had to be somewhere. I heard Nagini hangs
> out there when she¹s not with Lord Voldemort.
>
> It's right below the Carcer.
>
>
> ATS: LOL! Isn¹t that on the Via Sicaria, next to the poison shop (er,
> pharmacy) and the knife, tongue, and pen sharpener¹s place? The pottery shop
> where they make the little shot-glass sized hemlock cups is just around the
> corner. I hear the Carcer has a cupboard full of them, some of which the Boni
> borrow now and again...after a little visit to the pharmacy.
>
> They¹ll have to get in a new supply of decoder rings so that they can
> understand one another, though, as it seems that some can¹t decipher the
> ramblings of some of the others. Apparently the rings have gotten dyslexic.
>
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
>
> Valete.
>
>
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>> It's right below the Carcer.
>>
>>
>> ATS: LOL! Isn¹t that on the Via Sicaria,

>
> I would like to ask you if it was you who made those beautiful

>
> C. Aemilius Crassus L. Vitellio Triario SPD,
>
> First of all how is your eldest son recovering from the ordeal with

>
> Second let me thank you and your family for this wonderful gift to

>
> I would like to ask you if it was you who made those beautiful

>
> Once more my thanks for this amazing gift.
>
> Di te et familiam tuam incolumes custodiant.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

> C. AEMILIVS CRASSVS
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>
>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and
> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Salve Crassus,
>
> Our eldest is doing much better! There has been a
> remarkable recovery
> with his injuries. He has to use a scar cream twice
> daily and it
> seems to be working very well, however, I'm afraid
> it may not totally
> correct the scarring.
>
> You can view his personal page on Mons Aventinus at:
>
>

> ger_%28Populus%29
>
> And, again, our familia thanks each one of you for
> remembering our
> son and keeping him in your thoughts and prayers.
>
> Vale optime,
> Triarius
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gaius Aemilius
> Crassus
> <septemtrionis@...> wrote:
> >
> > C. Aemilius Crassus L. Vitellio Triario SPD,
> >
> > First of all how is your eldest son recovering
> from the ordeal with
> the dog attack? Let me assure that he is kept in my
> thoughts and
> prayers for a quick recovery.
> >
> > Second let me thank you and your family for this
> wonderful gift to
> our beloved Res Publica. It is already a true wonder
> and has the
> potential to be much more.
> >
> > I would like to ask you if it was you who made
> those beautiful
> images on the top of the pages for each hill? Those
> images are
> extremely beautiful and make me wonder if you have a
> single image for
> the all of Roma.
> >
> > Once more my thanks for this amazing gift.
> >
> > Di te et familiam tuam incolumes custodiant.
> >
> >
> >
>

> ------------
> > C. AEMILIVS CRASSVS
> >
>

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> >
> >
> >
>

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> > Be a better friend, newshound, and
> > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
>

>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
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> >
>
>
>

>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Equitio Marino quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@... <mailto:fororom%40localnet.com>
> > writes:
>
> [About my comment where I revealed the location of the Bonicave]
>>> >> It's right below the Carcer.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ATS: LOL! Isn¹t that on the Via Sicaria,
>
> I don't think so. See http://tinyurl.com/6k6af
>
> The usual location of the Carcer is given as "situated between the
> temple of Concord and the curia at the foot of the Capitol (Liv. I.33:
> media urbe imminens foro)."
>
> ATS2: Now, now, Marine, you are taking things much too literally! As
> often on these subjects, I was teasing, giving it a proper location, and
> suitable neighbors, not the historical one. ;-)
>
> Vale,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
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>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Inoltra: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine/THE LAW OF GRAVITY IS NOT A FAITH


> Cato C. Iuliae Agrippae Lucio Q. Vestae Gn. Equitio Marino C. Fabio
> Buteoni Modiano omnibusque in Foro SPD
>
> Salvete omnes.

> Now, Iulia Agrippa, I find the description of your interaction with the gods very interesting. In part, you wrote:
> "What would happen if I fail to worship?. Nothing, I don't see them as "choleric"or "jealous". I know that They can get enranged, now and then, but which Deity doesn't?"
> My question would be then why worship Them at all? What inspires you to worship Them if They don't need it or give any indication that They particularly even want it? I guess I'm asking about the personal drive that brings you to the altar each day.
> > The monotheist tradition, of course, rings out a steady clarion cry to worship God simply because He demands it - He is worthy of adoration simply because He exists - and has made it clear to His people exactly what He wants from them. And I guess as a life-long (with bumps) Christian, I am used to getting something tangible from worship (specifically, the Eucharist); the very physical communion/Communion with the Incarnate God is an actual, tangible ... "thing", I guess, that I carry away from the liturgy: because you go to Him, He feeds you as He promised He would.
> Of course, there is the general sort of unprovable reciprocity involved in things like Confession (where you have to assume that God keeps his end of the bargain and, in fact, forgives you) which may be closer to your experience.
>
> Valete,
> Cato

Salve Cato:
I won't bore all the other members describring my personal experiences. But I'd suggest that you might take a look at Empedocles' concept of "Eros", Homer's "Odes", as well as (why not?) Luther's former follower Sebastian Franck, who lived between 1499 and 1542.
Being a follower of Erasmus, Franck even considered Cicero, Seneca, Plato or Plotinus as "enlightened Pagans (erleuchute Hayden). Franck rejected Luther's views on sin, or needing rituals (including the Sacraments), as well as seeing "God" as demanding. Even more, he also rejected any view of "God" asking anything from his followers, almost giving a sort of "pantheist" view of reality.
Franck claimed that "knowing God" comes as some sort of revelation, up to the point that he considered that there were *Christians* even before Christ himself came. He went as far as saying that *papists*, jews, muslems, even "pagans" in Asia and other remote places who actively rejected Christianity, were neverthless *Christians*, because... if any person is just, fair and essentially *good*, they could very well reject what he called "external Christianity", because they were already being faithful to God's Spirit, the Logos, the *Inner Christianity*.
Interesting concepts, to say the least. Mainly coming from a Monotheist (a Christian), after all.
As I mentioned, there will be a *fundamental difference* in the way you and I understand spirituality, so somehow expanding myself any further on the subject will be as useless as your trying to convince me that I need to accept Jesus to be "saved". Of course, I'm not saying you are trying to do it... It is only a "comparison".
By the way, I don't feel I need to actually perform a ritual or adoration each day. Somehow I'm closer to Francks' view. Or to what some very good Wiccan friends from Britain said once "It is not where you put the bloody candle, but what you feel in your heart". Or, like another Brit lady used to say "Do only what you can bring proudly in front of your Gods".
Vale bene.
Gaia Iulia Agrippa.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <gawne@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: RES: Inoltra: [Nova-Roma] Re: Fine/THE LAW OF GRAVITY IS NOT AFAITH


> Salve Luci Quirini,
>
> Just in case you were wondering, you're not the only scientist here.
>
> Lucius Quirinus <ostiaaterni@...> writes:
>
> > Be sure that, for example, the Newton's Equations will always be confirmed , as they follow the essence of this Universe
>
> At least in reasonably 'flat' spacetime. They break down in places where the gravitational gradient is significant, as Einstein
> discovered back around 1915. That's why he came up with General Relativity.
> > It's a trivial exercise to derive Newton's universal law of gravitation from the Field Equation of General Relativity if you set the gravitational derivative to zero. Anyone who's completed a graduate class in relativity has done it. So it's not as if Newton were wrong. He was just incomplete for some situations.
>
> Vale,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
>
>
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> Salve Triari! I tried to link to your sons personal
> page and wikia said no such page existed on Mons
> Aventinus! Are you sure the link you provided is
> correct? It just didn't link me to it. Thanks! Vale!

>
> Laenas Pallidio Sal.
>
> >>I'm not even to bother pointing out yet again the Boni have not been
> an active organization for several years. It gives some people a
> raison d'être to continue to bring it up, I don't know what they'd do
> without us. Invent us. I'm thinking we should come back, decoder
> rings, secret handshakes, the whole lot.<<
>
>
> If we do come back, I want to use a new secret handshake. Meet me at
> the Bonicave and I'll show it to you.