Salve!

I visited your site as well,it look awesome. I like the mugs and I think I'll order some after next payday. By the way, I moved to Esqiline Hill too, I'm in Vicus Sabuci.

Wassail!

Vale,

Annia Minucia Marcella
http://www.myspace.com/novabritannia
http://novabritannia.org/
http://ciarin.com/governor

----- Original Message -----
From: Stefn Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Mons Aventinus


Ave Triarius;

On 12/30/07, L. Vitellius Triarius wrote:
>
> Salve Venator,
>
> I stopped by the shop to browse a minute.
> Got to get the mead primer, that is, when I get over the
> financial hurdles of the holidays...that
> looks interesting. Neat shop. Hope more will visit.
>
> Again, welcome to the neighborhood!
>
> Vale optime,
> Triarius
>

Thank you for the visit; I'll be putting up a notice this evening in
place of the "Mead Primer," as I am revising it. The new edition will
be out by the end of January.

The first edition was written during Nova Roma's second year as a fund
raiser; I think we sold about 100 copies. I've sold a few hundred on
my own behalf since.

I'm working on a couple of other manuscripts of poetry;; one of which
will be a collection of my Roman writing (by March).

benedictus - Venator




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>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Equitio Marino L. Liviae Plautae quiritibus bonae
> voluntatis s.p.d.
>
>
> Salve Plauta,
>
> [I had said]
>>> >> I have said that I will withdraw it if she apologises.
>
> [Plauta replied]
>> > Well, stating your intention to withdraw the petitio AFTER the edict
>> > was posted would have helped.
>
> I did. Would you like the number of that post?
>
>> > As would some recognition by Scholastica
>> > that the petitio was withdrawn, which she couldn't probably post
>> > because you didn't, right?
>
> I have not withdrawn the petitio yet because I have seen no apology
> from M. Hortensia Maior.
>
> ATS: And that is precisely why the trial proceedings must go forward.
> The law requires a certain time frame. It also requires the intervention of
> the praetores rather than, say, an automated reply from Yahoo. Moreover, you,
> Plauta, are not privy to the private correspondence on this, or other, issues.
> I have no compelling desire to conduct a trial, but that is my duty, whether
> my best friend is a defendant, or my worst enemy. In the past, even earlier
> this year, situations occurred which would have made that clear. Some of us
> don¹t suffer from these irrational behaviors and/or emotional storms which
> might well impair the ability to be impartial. Speak for yourself, Plauta,
> and for anyone else with similar attitudes. I am perfectly capable of being
> impartial. So is Cato. Perhaps you are not. Probably others are not. I am.
>
> It happens that, as he noted, Marinus will withdraw the petitio if, and
> only if, Hortensia apologizes. We have learnt that she prefers to go to
> trial, and that her advocatus is present. She could avoid this whole thing if
> she would simply apologize for these intense statements, which, as Cato noted,
> are worse than any of those made by others.
>
> Vale,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
> Valete.
>
>
> Messages in this topic
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/54328;_ylc=

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Cato M. Lucretio Agricolae sal.

Salve Agricole.

Honestly, I don't know why; I think perhaps with the earlier example
tempers were really obviously out of control. In this one, Maior's
words sort of came out of the blue; I do recall writing after she had
suggested changing the Oath of Office that what she was suggesting
was a violation of the law. I would never have imagined that she
would push even further and suggest the expulsion of citizens because
of their religious beliefs.

At that point the damage was done, and Marinus Censorius made clear
his intent to file a lawsuit.

Vale,

Cato

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus A. Tulliae Scholasticae salutem dicit

"Some of us don¹t suffer from these irrational behaviors and/or
emotional storms which might well impair the ability to be impartial.
Speak for yourself, Plauta, and for anyone else with similar
attitudes. I am perfectly capable of being impartial."

This statement appears to me to imply that you have other people in
mind who are irrational and prone to emotional storms. Who, might I
ask, are you referring to? If you have something to say, then say it.

Vale:

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Dec 30, 2007 8:17 PM, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...> wrote:
>
> > A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Equitio Marino L. Liviae Plautae quiritibus
> bonae
> > voluntatis s.p.d.
>
> >
> >
> > Salve Plauta,
> >
> > [I had said]
> >>> >> I have said that I will withdraw it if she apologises.
> >
> > [Plauta replied]
> >> > Well, stating your intention to withdraw the petitio AFTER the edict
> >> > was posted would have helped.
> >
> > I did. Would you like the number of that post?
> >
> >> > As would some recognition by Scholastica
> >> > that the petitio was withdrawn, which she couldn't probably post
> >> > because you didn't, right?
> >
> > I have not withdrawn the petitio yet because I have seen no apology
> > from M. Hortensia Maior.
> >
> > ATS: And that is precisely why the trial proceedings must go forward.
> > The law requires a certain time frame. It also requires the intervention
> of
> > the praetores rather than, say, an automated reply from Yahoo. Moreover,
> you,
> > Plauta, are not privy to the private correspondence on this, or other,
> issues.
> > I have no compelling desire to conduct a trial, but that is my duty,
> whether
> > my best friend is a defendant, or my worst enemy. In the past, even
> earlier
> > this year, situations occurred which would have made that clear. Some of
> us
> > don¹t suffer from these irrational behaviors and/or emotional storms
> which
> > might well impair the ability to be impartial. Speak for yourself,
> Plauta,
> > and for anyone else with similar attitudes. I am perfectly capable of
> being
> > impartial. So is Cato. Perhaps you are not. Probably others are not. I
> am.
> >
> > It happens that, as he noted, Marinus will withdraw the petitio if, and
> > only if, Hortensia apologizes. We have learnt that she prefers to go to
> > trial, and that her advocatus is present. She could avoid this whole
> thing if
> > she would simply apologize for these intense statements, which, as Cato
> noted,
> > are worse than any of those made by others.

-M. Hortensia A. Tullia Schoasticae G. Equitio Catoni Quiritibusque
spd;
Cordus has just written to the present praetors and the
future praetors. I have no concerns or worries.

May all of us enjoy the New Year without any anxiety or strife. I
know this coming year will be a wonderful one in Nova Roma. I truly
love all my wonderful friends and feel we all are Fortuna's favorite!
May Janus and Concordia watch over us
may the gods be propitious to Rome!
Maior

> the petitioner has joined in my request to wait for Cordus, my
> legal counsel. I will not participate in any legal proceedings
> without him.
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
> Salve Marca Hortensia,
> >
> > Maior <rory12001@> writes:
> >
> > > I also must insist that the trial has to wait for Cordus my
> lawyer
> > > to return.
> >
> > I'll join you in that. There's no particular reason to rush.
> Let's
> > do this right. I've no wish to have procedural questions

hanging

> over
> > the eventual verdict.
> >
> > Of course I'd like some confirmation from Cordus that he has
> actually
> > accepted your case. I wrote to him and he has not written back.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
> >
>

OSD C. Equitius Cato

Salvete omnes.

Oh for the love of (the) God(s) - what are we, "Dynasty" with togas?

Look, Maior said a couple of things that went beyond the pale of even
our normally rough-and-tumble arguments. She's gotten called on it.
She was offered a way out - or had one until it was cut off by a
tribune's intercessio. She herself says she wants a trial, because
she is certain that her presumed advocate (and I say that because no
word has yet been received from the gentleman in question) can get
her absolved. So let it go. Get off your high horses and let the
machinery that we put in place run its course. If everyone hates the
idea of lawsuits so much then grow up and change the goddamned laws -
get rid of the leges Saliciae. But enough of the bitching and
moaning.

Oh, and I keep hearing all this stuff about "Concordia" this
and "peace" that and "special time of year" the other and blah blah
blah and I sort of even got sucked into it myself, but you know
what? The *reason* this time of year is associated with peace is not
because of Ramadan or Chanukah or the Saturnalia or Mithra or Sol
Invictus or Kwaanza or Buddha or Ahura-Mazda or anyone of a number of
deities, prophets, saints, priests, or kings. It's because of the
greeting given to a bunch of shepherds by an angel heralding a
certain birth. The very same birth the mention of which sends bolts
of horror and disgust through some of our citizens. Chill.

Vale,

Cato

Indeed, I recall your message. From time to time we revisit our
moderation policy, usually after a big spat. Seems like time for that
old debate again, more so in that new praetors are coming in and it
might be well to take a fresh look with fresh eyes.

Optime vale!

Agricola


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
wrote:

>
> Cato M. Lucretio Agricolae sal.
>
> Salve Agricole.
>
> Honestly, I don't know why; I think perhaps with the earlier example
> tempers were really obviously out of control. In this one, Maior's
> words sort of came out of the blue; I do recall writing after she had
> suggested changing the Oath of Office that what she was suggesting
> was a violation of the law. I would never have imagined that she
> would push even further and suggest the expulsion of citizens because
> of their religious beliefs.
>
> At that point the damage was done, and Marinus Censorius made clear
> his intent to file a lawsuit.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>

Salve,

Actually this time is associated with peace because of his great and meaty highness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

In His Noodly service,

Annia Minucia Marcella

----- Original Message -----
From: Gaius Equitius Cato
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Intercessio - Ex Officio L. Liviae Plautae tribunae plebis


It's because of the
greeting given to a bunch of shepherds by an angel heralding a
certain birth. The very same birth the mention of which sends bolts
of horror and disgust through some of our citizens. Chill.

Vale,

Cato


.


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Agricola Catoni sal.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
wrote:

>

[SNIP]

>
> Oh, and I keep hearing all this stuff about "Concordia" this
> and "peace" that and "special time of year" the other and blah blah
> blah and I sort of even got sucked into it myself, but you know
> what? The *reason* this time of year is associated with peace is not
> because of Ramadan or Chanukah or the Saturnalia or Mithra or Sol
> Invictus or Kwaanza or Buddha or Ahura-Mazda or anyone of a number of
> deities, prophets, saints, priests, or kings. It's because of the
> greeting given to a bunch of shepherds by an angel heralding a
> certain birth. The very same birth the mention of which sends bolts
> of horror and disgust through some of our citizens. Chill.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>

Now my dear friend, have you forgotten our poet Ovid, who died in the
year 17CE? His work was known in Europe in the middle ages. Here is a
nice translation of part of his "Fasti":

----------------------------

See how Janus appears first in my song

To announce a happy year for you, Germanicus.

Two-headed Janus, source of the silently gliding year,

The only god who is able to see behind him,

Be favourable to the leaders, whose labours win

Peace for the fertile earth, peace for the seas:

Be favourable to the senate and Roman people,

And with a nod unbar the shining temples.

A prosperous day dawns: favour our thoughts and speech!

Let auspicious words be said on this auspicious day.

Let our ears be free of lawsuits then, and banish

Mad disputes now: you, malicious tongues, cease wagging!

-------------------------

Here is all the hope for the new year: peace and prosperity. Later
today I will participate in a new year ceremony at a Shinto shine. We
will toss bits of paper behind us, symbolizing all the bad things that
were attached to us in the course of the past year. Then we will walk
through a bamboo "gate" into the new year. We will sip sake in company
with the kami, hoping for a prosperous year. For us Romans, there is a
close connection between gates and Ianus, of course.

I want to draw attention to this: "Be favourable to the leaders, whose
labours win Peace for the fertile earth,...". Here we see an important
point. The gods of Rome cooperated with the magistrates and people.
They didn't create the peace and prosperity themselves, but they were
an important part of the process. They were, in a sense, citizens
themselves, participating in the life of the city, and sharing it with
the people.

So for me, the "*reason* this time of year is associated with peace"
is that in Rome it was so, it is my heritage handed down from ancient
times. As for you, my friend, I am happy that you have your own path
to what is, at the end of the day (bad pun, sorry!), the same end.

Happy New Year!

optime vale

Agricola

Salve Minucia Marcella!

Have you seen His Noodliness??? If so, did you happen to get it on
film? It would make a great spot on YouTube...

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Annia Minucia Marcella" <annia@...>
wrote:

>
> Salve,
>
> Actually this time is associated with peace because of his great and

meaty highness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

>
> In His Noodly service,
>
> Annia Minucia Marcella
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gaius Equitius Cato
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:54 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Intercessio - Ex Officio L. Liviae

Plautae tribunae plebis

>
>
> It's because of the
> greeting given to a bunch of shepherds by an angel heralding a
> certain birth. The very same birth the mention of which sends bolts
> of horror and disgust through some of our citizens. Chill.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
> .
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Cato Agricolae sal.

Salve Agricole!

Harrrumph-pa-pum-pum, as the Little Drummer Boy might say.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Lucretius Agricola"
<wm_hogue@...> wrote:

>
> Agricola Catoni sal.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@>
> wrote:
> >
> [SNIP]
>
> >
> > Oh, and I keep hearing all this stuff about "Concordia" this
> > and "peace" that and "special time of year" the other and blah blah
> > blah and I sort of even got sucked into it myself, but you know
> > what? The *reason* this time of year is associated with peace is not
> > because of Ramadan or Chanukah or the Saturnalia or Mithra or Sol
> > Invictus or Kwaanza or Buddha or Ahura-Mazda or anyone of a number of
> > deities, prophets, saints, priests, or kings. It's because of the
> > greeting given to a bunch of shepherds by an angel heralding a
> > certain birth. The very same birth the mention of which sends bolts
> > of horror and disgust through some of our citizens. Chill.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>
> Now my dear friend, have you forgotten our poet Ovid, who died in the
> year 17CE? His work was known in Europe in the middle ages. Here is a
> nice translation of part of his "Fasti":
>
> ----------------------------
>
> See how Janus appears first in my song
>
> To announce a happy year for you, Germanicus.
>
> Two-headed Janus, source of the silently gliding year,
>
> The only god who is able to see behind him,
>
> Be favourable to the leaders, whose labours win
>
> Peace for the fertile earth, peace for the seas:
>
> Be favourable to the senate and Roman people,
>
> And with a nod unbar the shining temples.
>
> A prosperous day dawns: favour our thoughts and speech!
>
> Let auspicious words be said on this auspicious day.
>
> Let our ears be free of lawsuits then, and banish
>
> Mad disputes now: you, malicious tongues, cease wagging!
>
> -------------------------
>
> Here is all the hope for the new year: peace and prosperity. Later
> today I will participate in a new year ceremony at a Shinto shine. We
> will toss bits of paper behind us, symbolizing all the bad things that
> were attached to us in the course of the past year. Then we will walk
> through a bamboo "gate" into the new year. We will sip sake in company
> with the kami, hoping for a prosperous year. For us Romans, there is a
> close connection between gates and Ianus, of course.
>
> I want to draw attention to this: "Be favourable to the leaders, whose
> labours win Peace for the fertile earth,...". Here we see an important
> point. The gods of Rome cooperated with the magistrates and people.
> They didn't create the peace and prosperity themselves, but they were
> an important part of the process. They were, in a sense, citizens
> themselves, participating in the life of the city, and sharing it with
> the people.
>
> So for me, the "*reason* this time of year is associated with peace"
> is that in Rome it was so, it is my heritage handed down from ancient
> times. As for you, my friend, I am happy that you have your own path
> to what is, at the end of the day (bad pun, sorry!), the same end.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> optime vale
>
> Agricola
>

Salve Marcella,

His noodly appendage touches us all.

RAmen,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Annia Minucia Marcella <annia@...> writes:

> Actually this time is associated with peace because of his great and
> meaty highness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
>
> In His Noodly service,
>
> Annia Minucia Marcella

Salve Cato,

Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> writes:

> Have you seen His Noodliness???

I see His Noodliness every time I drive through Hampden.

http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/billboard

RAmen,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Salve Marinus Censorius,

Huh. The NYC subway system seems to have been designed with very much
Noodliness in mind as well - more physical evidence in support of His
existence?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...>
wrote:

>
> Salve Cato,
>
> Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> writes:
>
> > Have you seen His Noodliness???
>
> I see His Noodliness every time I drive through Hampden.
>
> http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/billboard
>
> RAmen,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>

Salve Marinus

Should that not be Amen RA

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

>From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Intercessio - Ex Officio L. Liviae
>Plautaetribunae plebis
>Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:42:57 -0500
>
>Salve Marcella,
>
>His noodly appendage touches us all.
>
>RAmen,
>
>CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
>Annia Minucia Marcella <annia@...> writes:
>
> > Actually this time is associated with peace because of his great and
> > meaty highness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
> >
> > In His Noodly service,
> >
> > Annia Minucia Marcella
>

My guess is that it is a play on Ramen noodles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramen

Just a guess...

Vale:

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Dec 30, 2007 10:15 PM, Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Marinus
>
> Should that not be Amen RA
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> >From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...>
> >Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> >To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Intercessio - Ex Officio L. Liviae
> >Plautaetribunae plebis
> >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:42:57 -0500
> >
> >Salve Marcella,
> >
> >His noodly appendage touches us all.
> >
> >RAmen,
> >
> >CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
> >
> >Annia Minucia Marcella <annia@...> writes:
> >
> > > Actually this time is associated with peace because of his great and
> > > meaty highness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
> > >
> > > In His Noodly service,
> > >
> > > Annia Minucia Marcella
> >
>
>

Salve Cato,

Further proof that His Noodly Appendage Touches Us All.

Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> writes:

> Salve Marinus Censorius,
>
> Huh. The NYC subway system seems to have been designed with very much
> Noodliness in mind as well - more physical evidence in support of His
> existence?

He is with us. Now and forever. RAmen.

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Salve Consul,

Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> writes:

> Salve Marinus
>
> Should that not be Amen RA

No! That is the Egyptian heresy! True Pastafarians know that the
proper way to end all prayers to His Noodliness is

RAmen,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

We must stop Ramen! If he has his way we'd all be getting sauced while talking about our pasta life experiences, right before making him offerings of Chianti and parmesan cheese.

Valete,
Artoria

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Fl. Galerius Aurelianus C. Equitio Cato L. Livia Plauta et al S.P.D.

L. Livia has acted in accordance with the just powers of the Tribunes of the
People by pronouncing intercessio against a praetorial edictum. It was
phrased well and speaks to her understanding the specifics of the intercessio. I
believe that Titus Flavius would do well to support this edictum rather than
continuing to act in a manner that violates the spirit of his oath as
Tribunus Plebis. By doing so, it would allow him to protect the rights of a
Plebeian as defined by the Constitution.

The Praetores would have better served Nova Roma by placing Marca Hortensia
under moderation when her remarks reached the point when they became
inflammatory and threatened the public peace. Such an action might have prevented
the filing of a petitio by Marinus.

The Praetores should never be afraid to act on behalf of the Senate and
People of Nova Roma to curb the rhetoric of public demagogues. They are the
first line of defense on the lists against excesses and should be firm in their
oaths to protect the Republic from harm by upholding free speech in the fora
WHILE MAINTAINING THE SPEECH BE MODERATE.

I believe that the Respublica would be served best if this matter were
settled according to the Constitution and Leges of our organization and not by a
lot of posts that will have little bearing on the outcome. The evocation of
Concordia is always appropriate but some prayers should be offered to Fides
Publica Populi Romani that this matter will be resolved according to law.

Valete.




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Salve Artoria,

Artoria <icehunter@...> writes:

> We must stop Ramen!

Resistance is futile. You will be pastafied.

RAmen,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

May Salus & Asklepios grant all that is appropriate and auspicious to L.
Sicinius Drusus for his many good works for Nova Roma and America
Austrorientalis. May Averna grant him swift surcease if that is written for him.

Fl. Galerius Aurelianus
Pontifex et flamen Cerialis



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He is the Sun God
He is the Fun God
He is just One God
Ra Ra Rah.

FGA



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Salve Marine,

>Resistance is futile. You will be pastafied.

Pah! I draw the line at al dente deities. Now a "pizza" god I could get behind, the better to sneak up on it and share in its inherent goodness.

Vale,
Artoria

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Salve Ti. Armini Geniali,

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Titus Arminius Genialis"
<tagenialis@...> wrote:

>
> Salvete omnes
>
> I have one question concerning the oath of office...
> Why using our legal name on its formula? Why not using only the

Roman name?

>
> I agree that, by using both names, the oath sounds more sincere,
>more effective... however, aren't we leggally known within Nova Roma
>by our Roman
> names? Our legal (macronational) names doesn't mean anything within
>NR, in my opinion...

In day to day usage, I agree our macronational names mean little.
However, I required both names to be used in the oath for two
reasons.

The first reason is we *are* legally known within Nova Roma by both
our macronational and Roman names--the censors' office has both names
listed and both are required to join Nova Roma. Nova Roma doesn't
exist only on the Internet but in the real world as well, where we
are not known by our Roman names primarily but by our macronational
names.

The other reason my friend and colleague Marinus has already
mentioned: magistrates of Nova Roma are also officers of the
macronational corporation of Nova Roma, which does not recognize our
Nova Roman names.

Vale,

Palladius

Southeastern Roman Conventus to be held in Birmingham, AL on Sat.,
Jan. 19 and Sunday, Jan. 20, 2008. This event is being organized by
members of Nova Roma for anyone who would be interested in attending-
-military, civilian, cultures deorum, friends, family et cetera. It
is a wonderful opportunity for networking and getting to know
other "Romans" from different groups.

The Birmingham Museum of Art is hosting the exhibit "Pompeii: Tales
from an Eruption" until January 27. This exhibit features 500 items
from Pompeii, Oplontis, and Herculaneum. The price for this exhibit
is $16.00 USD but if we can get a group of more than ten people, the
price drops to $14 USD per person.

http://www.artsbma.org/

Birmingham, AL is also the home of the magnificent statue of Vulcan
that was first featured at the 1904 World's Fair. This statue
underwent extensive restoration in 1999 to restore it to its
original appearance. The conventus would include a trip to Vulcan
Park to visit the statue and its museum as well as use the overlook.
One aspect of the conventus to be discussed is whether to
visit the park late in the afternoon so as to watch the sunset over
B'ham from the overlook. There is a $1.00 USD discount for groups of
over 10 persons.

http://www.visitvulcan.com/

Accommodations will be at The Motel 6 #2004 [I-65 at Oxmoor Road,
Exit #256/#256-A; 151 Vulcan Road; Birmingham, AL 35209; (205)942-
9414] is 5.4 miles southwest of downtown Birmingham. A room for 4
persons is priced at $46.79+tax per night with reservation or $11.70
per person. The same rate applies for both smoking and non-smoking
rooms. Two rooms will be reserved by the organizer on Monday, Dec.
17; in a section of the hotel where other rooms will be available to
insure close proximity for room visits on Saturday night after
dinner.

http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=2004

Dinner on Saturday night, Jan. 19, will be at Lavoy's Italian
Restaurant at 6 PM. This eatery is located less than one mile from
the Motel 6 and is easy to find. They were rated the best Italian
restaurant in Birmingham in 2002 and is one of the top five Italian
restaurants in the city. Their menu is varied, prices are
reasonable, and they have a small but decent wine list. I have
contacted the manager to discuss our dinner there.

http://www.birminghammenus.com/lovoys/

Breakfast on Sunday morning will be at the International House of
Pancakes (off exit 255) about 2 miles south of Motel 6. The address
is 221 State Farm Pkwy, Homewood, AL. The telephone number is (205)
290-0995.

Everyone needs to arrive between 9:00-9:30 a.m. so that we can all
be seated together. If anyone wants to discuss any business or make
announcements about upcoming events, this would be a good time to do
it.

Checkout at the Motel 6 is at 12:00 p.m. which would allow plenty of
time for socializing at breakfast before returning to the motel and
checking out.

COMMITTING TO THE CONVENTUS

I would like those who are planning on attending the Conventus to
contact me by Sunday, JANUARY 13, 2008. This will provide me with
a number to determine how many seats we will need for dinner on
Saturday and breakfast on Sunday. If there are going to be more
than 10 people attending, this will help us determine the price of
discounts at the museums.

If you have any other questions or concerns, contact me at
brotherpaganus@... or join the Austrorientalis@yahoogroups.com
list for further details. Any suggestions that could help with this
event would be welcome. The planning on this event is complete
unless we have enough participation to warrant Roman military or
civilian demonstrations at the Birmingham Museum of Art.

Patrick D. Owen, Nashville TN
aka Fl. Galerius Aurelianus,
Gubenator Am. Austrorientalis (NR)

Here we go, an ULTIMATE Pastafarian offering!

Chronne (sha-doan) - baked pasta casserole.

Ingredients; 1 pound each dry capellini, thick spaghetti and
perciatelli - cook al dente per package directions and drain well -
keep in pasta pot, 18 lg eggs - beaten, 1 c each Asiago, Romano and
Parmesan cheese - finely grated, 1 1/2# pepperoni - diced, 1/2 c
Mozzarella - shredded, 1/2 t black pepper - freshly ground, Olive oil
- quant suff

Preheat the oven to 350F. Lightly oil a baking pan of sufficient size
(mine is 18" x 14" x 3"). Mix the grated cheeses into the beaten eggs
and then add in the pepperoni; do this while the pasta is cooking. In
the large boiling pot, mix the egg-cheese-pepperoni into the cooked
pasta and then pour the whole mess into the baking pan. Mix the
Mozzarella and black pepper ; spread this evenly over the pasta mix.
Bake the pasta mix covered for 30 minutes and then uncovered for 10 -
20 minutes (until the top is fully melty and lightly browned).

I like to serve this with a steamed potherb mix (escarole, endive,
spinach and leeks) - dressed with garlic, olive oil and lemon juice --
plus a lightly boiled mix of turnip and carrot dressed with butter
and parsley.

"Drink what you like" - Justinian Wilsonius Cajunus

=========================================
In felicitas quod concordia - Venator

On 12/30/07, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus wrote:

>
> Salve Artoria,
>
> Artoria <icehunter@...> writes:
>
> > We must stop Ramen!
>
> Resistance is futile. You will be pastafied.
>
> RAmen,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>

"Oh, bother," said the Borg "we've assimilated Pooh."

;-) Venii

Agricola Omnibus sal.

If anyone needs to find the oath of office, you can go to the main
page and enter "oath of office" in the search box. Then follow the links.

optime valete in pace deorum!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "deciusiunius" <bcatfd@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salve Ti. Armini Geniali,
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Titus Arminius Genialis"
> <tagenialis@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete omnes
> >
> > I have one question concerning the oath of office...
> > Why using our legal name on its formula? Why not using only the
> Roman name?
> >
> > I agree that, by using both names, the oath sounds more sincere,
> >more effective... however, aren't we leggally known within Nova Roma
> >by our Roman
> > names? Our legal (macronational) names doesn't mean anything within
> >NR, in my opinion...
>
> In day to day usage, I agree our macronational names mean little.
> However, I required both names to be used in the oath for two
> reasons.
>
> The first reason is we *are* legally known within Nova Roma by both
> our macronational and Roman names--the censors' office has both names
> listed and both are required to join Nova Roma. Nova Roma doesn't
> exist only on the Internet but in the real world as well, where we
> are not known by our Roman names primarily but by our macronational
> names.
>
> The other reason my friend and colleague Marinus has already
> mentioned: magistrates of Nova Roma are also officers of the
> macronational corporation of Nova Roma, which does not recognize our
> Nova Roman names.
>
> Vale,
>
> Palladius
>

Salve Veni,

Stefn Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus <famila.ulleria.venii@...> writes:

> Here we go, an ULTIMATE Pastafarian offering!
>
> Chronne (sha-doan) - baked pasta casserole.

[snip]

Oh heavens, that looks luscious. I think I see this appearing on the
table in Villa Equitia Marina soon.

Vale,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Salve,

I wish I could attend, but unfortunately I must save up my money for a trip to Germany this spring. Plus I don't think I'll be able to get the days off. Sounds like it'd be an awesome trip though.

Vale,

Annia Minucia Marcella
http://www.myspace.com/novabritannia
http://novabritannia.org/
http://ciarin.com/governor

Esquiline Hill, Vicus Sabuci

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick D. Owen
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:42 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] 3 WEEKS UNTIL CONVENTUS IN B'HAM, AL (JAN. 19-20)


Southeastern Roman Conventus to be held in Birmingham, AL on Sat.,
Jan. 19 and Sunday, Jan. 20, 2008. This event is being organized by
members of Nova Roma for anyone who would be interested in attending-
-military, civilian, cultures deorum, friends, family et cetera. It
is a wonderful opportunity for networking and getting to know
other "Romans" from different groups.

The Birmingham Museum of Art is hosting the exhibit "Pompeii: Tales
from an Eruption" until January 27. This exhibit features 500 items
from Pompeii, Oplontis, and Herculaneum. The price for this exhibit
is $16.00 USD but if we can get a group of more than ten people, the
price drops to $14 USD per person.

http://www.artsbma.org/

Birmingham, AL is also the home of the magnificent statue of Vulcan
that was first featured at the 1904 World's Fair. This statue
underwent extensive restoration in 1999 to restore it to its
original appearance. The conventus would include a trip to Vulcan
Park to visit the statue and its museum as well as use the overlook.
One aspect of the conventus to be discussed is whether to
visit the park late in the afternoon so as to watch the sunset over
B'ham from the overlook. There is a $1.00 USD discount for groups of
over 10 persons.

http://www.visitvulcan.com/

Accommodations will be at The Motel 6 #2004 [I-65 at Oxmoor Road,
Exit #256/#256-A; 151 Vulcan Road; Birmingham, AL 35209; (205)942-
9414] is 5.4 miles southwest of downtown Birmingham. A room for 4
persons is priced at $46.79+tax per night with reservation or $11.70
per person. The same rate applies for both smoking and non-smoking
rooms. Two rooms will be reserved by the organizer on Monday, Dec.
17; in a section of the hotel where other rooms will be available to
insure close proximity for room visits on Saturday night after
dinner.

http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=2004

Dinner on Saturday night, Jan. 19, will be at Lavoy's Italian
Restaurant at 6 PM. This eatery is located less than one mile from
the Motel 6 and is easy to find. They were rated the best Italian
restaurant in Birmingham in 2002 and is one of the top five Italian
restaurants in the city. Their menu is varied, prices are
reasonable, and they have a small but decent wine list. I have
contacted the manager to discuss our dinner there.

http://www.birminghammenus.com/lovoys/

Breakfast on Sunday morning will be at the International House of
Pancakes (off exit 255) about 2 miles south of Motel 6. The address
is 221 State Farm Pkwy, Homewood, AL. The telephone number is (205)
290-0995.

Everyone needs to arrive between 9:00-9:30 a.m. so that we can all
be seated together. If anyone wants to discuss any business or make
announcements about upcoming events, this would be a good time to do
it.

Checkout at the Motel 6 is at 12:00 p.m. which would allow plenty of
time for socializing at breakfast before returning to the motel and
checking out.

COMMITTING TO THE CONVENTUS

I would like those who are planning on attending the Conventus to
contact me by Sunday, JANUARY 13, 2008. This will provide me with
a number to determine how many seats we will need for dinner on
Saturday and breakfast on Sunday. If there are going to be more
than 10 people attending, this will help us determine the price of
discounts at the museums.

If you have any other questions or concerns, contact me at
brotherpaganus@... or join the Austrorientalis@yahoogroups.com
list for further details. Any suggestions that could help with this
event would be welcome. The planning on this event is complete
unless we have enough participation to warrant Roman military or
civilian demonstrations at the Birmingham Museum of Art.

Patrick D. Owen, Nashville TN
aka Fl. Galerius Aurelianus,
Gubenator Am. Austrorientalis (NR)





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D. Iunius Palladius Fl. Galerio Aureliano sal.

I would add my prayers to yours and hope for more information from
you as I have not heard of him in a long time. What is his condition
and his ailment?

Vale

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@... wrote:
>
> May Salus & Asklepios grant all that is appropriate and auspicious
to L.
> Sicinius Drusus for his many good works for Nova Roma and America
> Austrorientalis. May Averna grant him swift surcease if that is
written for him.
>
> Fl. Galerius Aurelianus
> Pontifex et flamen Cerialis
>
>
>
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Fl. Galerius Aurelianus Annia Minucia Marcella sal.

I regret that you will be unable to attend but our province usually holds
several events per year.

As one of the plebeian aediles, it is my hope to arrange to hold a live ludi
Cerialia or ludi Plebeii this year with events that the citizens of Nova
Roma will be able to participate in for the honor of Ceres or Iupiter.

Vale.



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Aurelianus Palladio sal.

L. Sicinius and I have not been in communication for some time now. He may
still be active on the Back Alley. Senator Laenas or Senator Maximus may be
in communication with him and I would refer you to them for more information.
His legal name is John Dobbins and he lives in Georgia but I have no more
knowledge of him beyond that. You might be able to get more information from
the Censores.

Vale.



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>
> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Vitellio Triario quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> Salve Cato,
>
> No, what I am saying is that there seems to be an absence of the
> Religio in public duties, SOMETIMES, when it comes to magistrates. If
> you are not a follower of the RR, and you are a Magistrate, and if
> your duties require you to do so, can you perform your duties in a
> Roman Manner, without violating your own personal religious rites and
> practices?
>
> ATS: A good many of us can.
>
> For example:
>
> Can you offer a public prayer to a Roman God at the opening of a
> public event if you are a devout Christian, Jew or Muslim? If the
> answer is YES, I personally find this a bit perplexing. If the answer
> is NO...ahah!
>
> ATS: Extreme fundamentalists could not, but others certainly can.
> There¹s nothing perplexing about it.
>
> Q: So what is the mediated way to handle this problem without
> violating your belief system?
>
> A: "Today is the opening of the ______. Let the ______ begin!"
>
> We just simply leave the prayers and offerings to ______ out of the
> opening statement, and the ______ goes on as planned.
>
> All I am saying is that if one's personal belief system is in
> contrast with the Religio, don't as a public official ignore the
> Religio part...go find a RR ritualist and have them do that part.
>
> ATS: And that is a good and proper thing to do. That is what is done
> when we have Christian (or other non-RR) consules, and that is what should be
> done.
>
> JUST STOP IGNORING THAT PART FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO IT.
>
> As far as private religious beliefs, like a told you yesterday, I
> agree with you completely that this is personal sacred ground and
> should not be messed with, nor should we allow it to be messed with.
> Public responsibilities are another thing. Either we ARE a Roman
> organization, or we ARE NOT.
>
> ATS: I think you mean a Roman pagan organization. There are Roman
> organizations where the RR is not an issue. Here others have been invited to
> depart, or even driven out, both in the past and at present. NR has already
> lost a lot of fine people, and will lose many more if this bickering keeps up.
>
> Vale optime,
> Triarius.
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
> Messages in this topic
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/54283;
>

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> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Vitellio Triario quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> Salve Praetor,
>
> Is the charge levied directed at individual piety or group piety?
>
> If the charge is directed at one individual, that is one thing. If it
> is directed at all Christians, Jews, Muslims, Minervalisians,
>
> ATS: I don¹t think we have any Minervalisians.
>
> etc.,
> that to me would fall under the realm of laesa patria (seriously
> threatening the well-being of the Republic),
>
> ATS: Very probably it would. However, since the comments made recently on
> the ML have already started to exact their toll, this could well be
> interpreted as laesa patria even if directed at one person. We do not seem to
> have a mechanism for class-action lawsuits here, and hitherto do not seem to
> have needed them. Now, however, non-cultores have been invited to leave, and
> that is serious, no matter what the tribuni or anyone else thinks.
>
>
> lest we have a holy war in
> the Respublica, which we do not need.
>
> ATS: We already have one, in case you haven¹t noticed. Cato and I are
> being accused of lack of judicial temperament by people who have never met us,
> or any participant in the matter at hand, and who have not been here long
> enough to be familiar with the temperament of any of us (or, for that matter,
> of virtually everyone in my field); non-cultores have been all but told that
> they are unwelcome, and if they do stick around, they need not run for office.
> Do you need anything else? We don¹t need a religious war, or any kind of war,
> but we have had them in the past, at great detriment to NR, and are having one
> now...all because of one man¹s bitterness and the chorus of intolerance it
> provoked.
>
> Vale optime,
> Triarius
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/

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A. Tullia Scholastica peritis rebus de quibus agitur quiritibus bonae
voluntatis S.D.

Ex hoc, et e more quidem nostro, magistrum aranearium/magistros
aranearios indicem iudicum parare arcesso iubeo.

I hereby instruct and summon the webmaster[s] to prepare an index
iudicum in accordance at least with our practices.

Valete.


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Maior Scholasticae sd;
my attorney, Cordus wrote to this years and next year's praetors
and being on holiday and on Greenwich Mean Time asked;

"I therefore ask you and your successors to postpone
any further action in the case in order to allow me to put together a
list of preliminary issues by a.d. VII Id. Jan."

And this includes proceedural actions. My lawyer Cordus is away
enjoying the New Year and cannot act for me.
M. Hortensia Maior

> A. Tullia Scholastica peritis rebus de quibus agitur quiritibus bonae
> voluntatis S.D.
>
> Ex hoc, et e more quidem nostro, magistrum aranearium/magistros
> aranearios indicem iudicum parare arcesso iubeo.
>
> I hereby instruct and summon the webmaster[s] to prepare an index
> iudicum in accordance at least with our practices.
>
> Valete.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> A. Tullia Scholastica M. Hortensiae Maiori quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> Maior Scholasticae sd;
> my attorney, Cordus wrote to this years and next year's praetors
> and being on holiday and on Greenwich Mean Time asked;
>
> "I therefore ask you and your successors to postpone
> any further action in the case in order to allow me to put together a
> list of preliminary issues by a.d. VII Id. Jan."
>
> And this includes proceedural actions. My lawyer Cordus is away
> enjoying the New Year and cannot act for me.
>
> ATS: This is simply a part of the necessary preliminaries, not a court
> action which requires any action on your part (plural). It is the last of my
> duties in this regard, a matter which could have been entirely eliminated by
> the exercise of tolerance and self-control on the part of many in this forum
> and an understanding that it is not only cultores have the right to express
> their faith and its teachings. Choosing a iudex involves you and/or your
> advocatus; choosing a jury pool of the sort we have in Nova Roma is simply a
> matter of compiling a list of those who fulfill two qualifications above and
> beyond citizenship.
>
> I will be delighted to hand this over to someone else, so long as justice
> is served.
>
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>> > A. Tullia Scholastica peritis rebus de quibus agitur quiritibus bonae
>> > voluntatis S.D.
>> >
>> > Ex hoc, et e more quidem nostro, magistrum aranearium/magistros
>> > aranearios indicem iudicum parare arcesso iubeo.
>> >
>> > I hereby instruct and summon the webmaster[s] to prepare an index
>> > iudicum in accordance at least with our practices.
>> >
>> > Valete.
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/54410;

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Salve!

I threw no offense card sir. I was misunderstood. But to you, thats a
yellow card!

~raises yellow card~

Vale!

Marcus Hirtius Ahenobarbus

Salve G. Iulia Agrippa!


Ok, you have misunderstood me. No big deal, I will clarify. You do
not have to respond like you said, but I hope you at least read this.

"You used my name! Misspelled but who cares, you actually used my
name!" -MHA, me


When I said that I was happy. It was like saying "wooo hooo!"

I mentioned that it was misspelled but I also said "Who cares!" That
was like saying "Well it was misspelled but Ill take it, Im just
happy you used my name." I didnt care about the spelling. I misspell
all the time.




"I am getting pretty tired of being refered to as "and others".
(esspecially when in the context of the statement "and others" could
only mean myself) It is dismissive and rude. Thank you for the
courtesy of refering to me by name." -MHA, Me



That was not directed at you. I was saying it TOO you, but it was
not directed AT you. Which you thought it was apparently....Sorry,
my fault should have been more clear.



Now from your post in response to mine:


"as for my sentence: "or *any other* saying that they are changing
their beliefs" being *dismissive and rude".. this is your OWN
INTERPRETATION, NOT MY INTENTION"


I know it was not your intention. Dont worry I understood you. :)


"Moreover... if you actually read all the posts, you'd seen (as I
noticed) that you and Cato are NOT the only Christians in the ML
making their voices being heard."


Thats true. Not going to argue with you there. But it was only Cato
and myself that said "Merry Christmas" and started the threads
specifically about Christmas. The "and others" comments I was
refering to were not your own, but the comments of a few others (I
say "others" because there actually were
multiple "others")....comments that were specifically about the
Christmas threads.


"Anyways, as I said before, I'm getting also tired of people playing
the "offence" card so easily."


Not offended at all! I was very happy because of your post, and I
was trying to thank you. I think this was a bit of me not explaining
myself well, and a bit of you reading some stuff that wasnt there.
We miscommunicated. No biggy....happens all the time.



"So.. are you trying to create a "decoy" from the main issue being
discussed?"


Nope.


"I consider the matter settled, I will simply NOT answer any other
post on this specific issue. It doesn't make any sense."


Your right, it wouldnt have made any sense if I had meant what you
thought I had meant. Luckily, thats not what I meant. (too
many "meants" in there...heh.)

So if it had meant what you thought it had meant, then it would
have meant something wrong but it didnt mean what was thought was
meant so the meaning was meant differently from what was thought was
meant, that I meant than you meant of what I meant. hehehehehe that
was fun. :)


So, we're ok right? Peace.


Marcus Hirtius Ahenobarbus

C. Aurelia Falco Silvana omnibus civibus Novae Romae salutem
plurimam dicit.

A break in the wrangling to thank L. Vitellius Triarius for his post
54203 which sang of CCCOOONNNCCCOOORRRDDDIIIAAA. My thanks also to
M. Moravius Piscinus for the "quote of the day" in post 54307, from
the writings of Marcus Aurelius.

On January 1, 2761 auc, for the third year, I will participate in our
local "Peace Walk." The theme is "Let peace begin with me." Also
for the third time, I will present themed selections from Marcus
Aurelius Antoninus as public readings at the gathering which follows
the Peace Walk. The people who attend represent many varied belief
paths, and are a refreshing demonstration mutual respect for each
others' beliefs. Last year one speaker even talked of the Mayan way.

(I post now, since the theme of LET PEACE BEGIN WITH ME seems
well-timed for the . . . um . . . dialogues(???) presently filling
the Main List. It will be a busy day for the wee Domus Aurelia
Falco:-- We will begin by watching the first sunrise of the New Year,
a tradition with universal meaning which I have kept for nearly 20
years. Then the Peace Walk, then our annual Bird Count (in honor of
Horus, one of the deities of the Domus).

My best wishes to all citizens of Nova Roma -- new, veteran,
delighted, disaffected, disgruntled, returned; of any and every Gens,
Tribe, Century, Factio, Sodalitas and whatever other divisions the Res
Publica is separated into. May Concordia and unity prevail.

Valete bene in Pace Deorum
C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

PEACE WALK 2008: READINGS FROM MARCUS AURELIUS ANTONINUS

Source: MEDITATIONS by Marcus Aurelius [George Long trans.],
Book-of-the-Month Club, NY 1996.

from Chapter X, xxiv:
What is my ruling faculty now to me? and of what nature am I now
making it? and for what purpose am I now using it? is it void of
understanding? is it loosed and rent asunder from social life? is it
melted into and mixed with the poor flesh so as to move together
with it?
(page 88)

from Chapter V, i:
In the morning when thou risest unwillingly, let this thought be
present – I am rising to the work of a human being. Why then am I
dissatisfied if I am going to do the things for which I exist and for
which I was brought into the world? Or have I been made for this, to
lie in the bedclothes and keep myself warm? – But this is more
pleasant. – Dost thou exist then to take thy pleasure, and not at all
for action or exertion? Dost thou not see the little plants, the
little birds, the ants, the spiders, the bees working together to put
in order their several parts of the universe? And art thou unwilling
to do the work of a human being, and dost thou not make haste to do
that which is according to thy nature? -- But it is necessary to take
rest also. – It is necessary: however nature has fixed bounds to this
too: she has fixed bounds both to eating and drinking, and yet thou
goest beyond these bounds, beyond what is sufficient; yet in thy acts
it is not so, but thou stoppest short of what thou canst do....
(page 30)

from Chapter IX, xvi:
Not in passivity, but in activity, lie the evil and the good of the
rational social animal, just as his virtue and his vice lie not in
passivity, but in activity.
(page 76)

from Chapter IX, v:
He often acts unjustly who does not do a certain thing; not only he
who does a certain thing.
(page 74)

from Chapter IX, xxii:
Hasten [to examine] thy own ruling faculty and that of the universe
and that of thy neighbour: thy own, that thou mayst make it just; and
that of the universe, that thou mayst remember of what thou art a
part; and that of thy neighbour, that thou mayst know whether he has
acted ignorantly or with knowledge, and that thou mayst also consider
that his ruling faculty is akin to thine.
(page 77)

from Chapter VII, lxiii:
Every soul, the philosopher says, is involuntarily deprived of truth;
consequently in the same way it is deprived of justice and temperance
and benevolence and everything of the kind. It is most necessary to
bear this constantly in mind, for thus thou wilt be more gentle
towards all.
(page 59)

from Chapter VII, xxii:
It is peculiar to man to love even those who do wrong. And this
happens, if when they do wrong it occurs to thee that they are
kinsmen, and that they do wrong through ignorance and unintentionally,
and that soon both of you will die; and above all, that the wrong-doer
has done thee no harm, for he has not made thy ruling faculty worse
than it was before.
(page 54)

from Chapter VI, lii:
It is in our power to have no opinion about a thing, and not to be
disturbed in our soul, for things themselves have no natural power to
form our judgments.
(page 50)

from Chapter III, ix:
Reverence the faculty which produces opinion. On this faculty it
entirely depends whether there shall exist in thy ruling part any
opinion inconsistent with nature and the constitution of the rational
animal. And this faculty promises freedom from hasty judgment, and
friendship towards men, and obedience to the gods.
(page 17)

from Chapter IX, xx:
It is thy duty to leave another man's wrongful act there where it is.
(page 76)

from Chapter IX, xxxviii:
If any man has done wrong, the harm is his own. But perhaps he has
not done wrong.
(page 80)

from Chapter IX, vi:
Thy present opinion founded on understanding, and thy present conduct
directed to social good and thy present disposition of contentment
with everything which happens – that is enough.
(page 74)

from Chapter X, xxxii:
Let it not be in any man's power to say truly of thee that thou art
not simple or that thou art not good; but let him be a liar whoever
shall think anything of this kind about thee; and this is altogether
in thy power. For who is he that shall hinder thee from being good
and simple? . . . .
(page 90)

from Chapter IX, xxiii:
As thou thyself art a component part of a social system, so let every
act of thine be a component part of social life. Whatever act of
thine then has no reference, either immediately or remotely, to a
social end, this tears asunder thy life, and does not allow it to be
one, and it is of the nature of a mutiny, just as when in a popular
assembly a man acting by himself stands apart from the general
agreement.
(page 77)

from Chapter VII, xxviii:
Retire into thyself. The rational principle which rules has this
nature, that it is content with itself when it does what is just, and
so secures tranquility.
(page 55)

from Chapter XII, xxii:
Consider that everything is opinion, and opinion is in thy power.
Take away then, when thou choosest, thy opinion, and like a mariner,
who has doubled the promontory, thou wilt find calm, everything
stable, and a waveless bay.
(page 106)

>
> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Liviae Plautae quiritibus bonae voluntatis s.p.d.
>
> I must have missed this one, but with such heavy volume, it is impossible
> to respond to every worthy post.
>
>
> L. Livia Plauta A. Tulliae Scholasticae S.P.D.
>
> I'm glad we actually agree, for a change.
>
> ATS2: You might find that we agree on more than you suspect.
>
> I'd go celebrate, if my mood
> wasn't a bit spoiled
>
> ATS2: What about the moods of those whose religious holiday was ruined
> because of the unwarranted bitterness and hatred spewed forth by several
> members of this list?
>
>
> by the imminent public humiliation of a citizen
> whose only fault is that she sometimes doesn't re-read her posts
> before hitting the "send" button, just like a lot of other people on
> this list.
>
> ATS2: A lot of us are guilty of that, and worse. However, as we who have
> been here longer than you are well aware, MHM has other issues. Moreover,
> there is nothing humiliating about apologizing for inappropriate behavior.
> MHM is a lawyer by training and practice, though is a student at present. She
> is not a mimosa plant.
>
> I know there have been bigger defections in the past, but for me every
> citizen is important, specially a latinist like Avitus, when we don't
> seem to have too many of those, and not at his level.
>
> ATS2: Avitus is one of a very few world-class Latinists. He is our only
> one, though there is another peregrinus on the Latinitas list, the webmaster
> of the GLL. Avitus is highly respected in the Latinist community, and inter
> alia is writing a book on the development of the Latin vocabulary. Naturally,
> the book is completely in Latin. His personality is difficult, but no one
> questions his abilities.
>
> I also know that a lot more people may be considering defection that
> those who are vocal about it, and I think preventing is better than
> curing.
>
> ATS2: Indeed, many just walk away, or notify the magistrates and/or
> friends, not the ML. We have had some reactions to MHM¹s actions, all the
> more so because she was adlected to the Senate, and is seen as a
> representative of our best citizens. Unfortunately, not all there in the
> course of our history fulfill that qualification, and some have been removed
> for just cause.
>
> Thanks a lot for your suggestion of putting "NR colonia" in the
> subject line when writing to Avitus. I'll try that, because he didn't
> react to a first private email I sent him in response to his first
> post (where I explained I am actually prepared to help found such a
> colony, and available within one year), nor to a second one I sent to
> inquire whether he had got the first.
>
> ATS2: You¹re welcome. It¹s worth a try. He may be away, but is also
> correcting Rudimenta Latina exams, and possibly combined Assimil ones as well.
> He doesn¹t answer my posts, either, and I have to write them in Latin; he
> pretends not to understand other languages from the tongues and pens of
> Latinists.
>
>> > ATS: And if we could get Avitus¹ dream off the ground, we would
> have a
>> > good deal of involvement in the real world. The CP needs cattle
> prods...
>
> Hmmm, cattle prods? Are you sure? What if someone constructs this
> phrase as inciting hatred towards a group (the CP) on the basis of
> their religious beliefs ...
>
> ATS2: No, to get the PM and others moving. Youth and energy do not
> always appear together, and that is one example thereof.
>
>> > I invite everybody to look at the recent votation result, and see
> that
>> > steps are being taken to finally take control of the financial
>> > element.
>> >
>> > ATS: This is mostly a matter to be discussed in the senate, but
> is not so
>> > much a struggle over control as some would have it.
>
> Totally right, but I was trying to draw attention to the votation
> result, which has been a bit overlooked, and when examined shows that
> the senate has indeed been working.
>
> ATS2: Since TGP was offline for an extended period, and the reports have
> not been as forthcoming as in the past, the election results were indeed quite
> late. I¹m glad that you brought this up...I was going to shortly.
>
>> >
>> > ATS: Plauta, please also give Yahoo time to deliver the mail;
> several of
>> > your posts were duplicated. One month should suffice; after that we
> know it
>> > went to the black hole. Often there are delays, and clearly some
> people are
>> > being affected more than others with this. Several hours are not
> impossible
>> > even for unmoderated members. Usually a day or two is enough...the
> carrier
>> > pigeons go on strike for more and better food.
>> >
>
> I did apologize for that in advance, though. Now I adopted the
> practice to post time-sensitive posts directly through the list
> website.
>
> ATS2: Not even THAT works sometimes...and there are clearly problems with
> moderator access at present on top of other ones. Maybe a server caught the
> flu. Or its tender got drunk...
>
> Vale.
>
> Vale, et valete.

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Salvete Quirites

I commend Tribunus Plebis Livia Plauta for her action in upholding
the rights of an individual Citizen and the Constitution. I cannot
say the same of our current Praetores. The comment below made by
Praetr Cato IMHO shows that he has in fact prejudged this case and
tried to resolve it by having the Rea admit guilt when it is not yet
clear that any crime was committed.

I can understand an attempt by Praetores to resolve a dispute through
mediation. Such would imply that both parties agree to the
resolution. Ordering one side by edictum to apologize is not a
mediation.


Valete
M Moravius Piscinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato"
<mlcinnyc@...> wrote:

>
> Cato Liviae Plautae sal.
>
> Salve again, Livia Plauta.
>
> You are incorrect. As I made quite clear, the actor in the case
> expressed his willingness to drop the petitio if the rea complied
> with the edict. Hortensia Maior still would have had almost 24

hours

> (from right now) to comply if you had not pronounced your
> intercessio, in which case the petitio would have been withdrawn.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@>
> wrote:
> >
> > [posted to the Main List, with cc to Tribuna Plauta]
> >
> > Salve Plauta,
> >
> > First, permit me to commend you on your dedication to the law.
> >
> > Now...
> >
> > > there was no sign that the petitio was going to be withdrawn,

so

> if I
> > > did nothing the outcome was going to be that Maior would have

had

> to
> > > make a public apology AND stand trial, all for the same "crime".
> >
> > I have said that I will withdraw it if she apologises.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
> >
>

Clarification:

The Yellow card is to, Appius Galerius Aurelianus.

Dont make me pull my Red card......

Cato M. Moravio Piscino sal.

Salve, Moravius Piscinus.

You are correct as far as I am concerned, though I will not speak for
my colleague, and I have not made any attempt to hide the fact. It
is because I believe she is guilty of the acts charged that I recused
myself from accepting the petitio as it was an obvious conflict of
interest. I have decided that a violation of our lex Constitutiva
has been committed, and this edict was certainly well within the
prerogatives of the office of praetor to pronounce. I am sure that
my colleagues entering the office of praetor tomorrow will use their
imperium to do quite a bit in regards to this issue as well, so I
hope that you will scrutinize their acts with equal vigor. A simple
dismissal of the petitio would be the equivalent of absolution.

Ordering one side to apologize is a form of mediation; more than
that, it was an attempt to stop the whole matter from entering our
court system as the first piece of business in the New Year. The
question was whether or not Maior felt it was in her best interests
to get it over with quickly - even if that meant admitting that she
did what the edict says she did - or to go through the judicial
process. She has chosen the latter, which is absolutely her right.

And yes, it is not a secret that the result of compliance with that
edict would have been the equivalent of the rea being condemned by
the court, but then apologies often are both a recognition of guilt
and an attempt to make amends for the damage caused by the act in the
first place.

Vale,

Cato

M Moravius Piscinus Consul designatus G. Equitio Catoni Praetori
salutem:

You have now insulted the religious faiths of most of our Citizens
and socii. I should not have to remind you or anyone else here that
this season of peace and concord associated with Saturnalia was
instituted centuries before your philosopher Jesus was born, and also
before another hundred years passed when such myths as you referred
to were attached to him in the same way that they were attached to
Apollonius.

As Praetor you should have been acting to curb this needless
dispute. Instead I see you instigating it, fueling it, now using
vulgarities on top of all else. By your conduct, you, sir, have just
insulted your own religious tradition.

Within twelve hours you will no longer hold office. You will be
accountable for your actions, to include the possibility of a
condemnatio that imposes inhabilitatio or even exactio. I strongly
suggest that you, Praetor, make a very sincere apology to every Jew,
Buddhist, Muslim, cultor Deorum, Christian, and everyone else here
before you leave office.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato"
<mlcinnyc@...> wrote:

>
> OSD C. Equitius Cato
>
> Salvete omnes.
>
> Oh for the love of (the) God(s) - what are we, "Dynasty" with togas?
>
> Look, Maior said a couple of things that went beyond the pale of

even

> our normally rough-and-tumble arguments. She's gotten called on

it.

> She was offered a way out - or had one until it was cut off by a
> tribune's intercessio. She herself says she wants a trial, because
> she is certain that her presumed advocate (and I say that because

no

> word has yet been received from the gentleman in question) can get
> her absolved. So let it go. Get off your high horses and let the
> machinery that we put in place run its course. If everyone hates

the

> idea of lawsuits so much then grow up and change the goddamned

laws -

> get rid of the leges Saliciae. But enough of the bitching and
> moaning.
>
> Oh, and I keep hearing all this stuff about "Concordia" this
> and "peace" that and "special time of year" the other and blah blah
> blah and I sort of even got sucked into it myself, but you know
> what? The *reason* this time of year is associated with peace is

not

> because of Ramadan or Chanukah or the Saturnalia or Mithra or Sol
> Invictus or Kwaanza or Buddha or Ahura-Mazda or anyone of a number

of

> deities, prophets, saints, priests, or kings. It's because of the
> greeting given to a bunch of shepherds by an angel heralding a
> certain birth. The very same birth the mention of which sends

bolts

> of horror and disgust through some of our citizens. Chill.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Quiritibus et omnibus salutem
plurimam dicit: Minerva nos sapientiam det.

Hodie est die pristini Kalendas Ianuaras; haec dies comitialis est:

Prayer to Jupiter

Lead me, O Master of the lofty heavens,
My Father, whithersoever thou shalt wish
I shall not falter, but obey with speed.
And though I would not, I shall go, and suffer
In sin and sorrow what I might have done
In noble virtue. Aye, the willing soul
Fate leads, but the unwilling drags along. ~ Seneca, Epistle 107


AUC 945 / 192 CE: Death of Commodus (Lucius Aelius Marcus Aurelius
Antoninus Commodus)

As we all know, the names of the months that we use today, whether in
French, Spanish, Italian, English, et cetera, derive from the names
used by the Romans. However what is not as well known is that it
might have been different had Commodus had his way. In AUC 943 (190
CE) Commodus ordered that the names of months, beginning with March
of that year, should be changed to Amazonius, Invictus, Felix, Pius,
Lucius, Aelius, Aurelius, Commodus, Augustus, Herculeus, Romanus
Exsuperatorius. That is, he ordered that unlike a Caesar or a mere
Augustus all of the months should be named after himself, as he
explained, each month bearing one of his titles. No wonder his that
mistress, his chamberlain and the commander of the Praetorian Guard
hired a wrestler by the fitting name of Narcissus to strangle
Commodus in his bath.

"Listen, O Roma, most beautiful Queen of Your world, welcomed amid
the starry skies, listen, O Mother of humans, Mother of the Gods,
thanks to Your temples we are not far from Heaven. Your name we
chant, and shall, while the Fates allow, forever chant. None can be
safe if forgetful of You. Sooner shall guilty oblivion befall the sun
than the honor due You quit from my heart, for Your benefits extend
as far as the rays of the sun, where the circling Ocean's flood
bounds the world's shores. For You very Phoebus who holds together
all things does revolve, his steeds which arise each morning within
Your domains he sets once more to rest within Your domains. You have
not been stayed by the scorching sands of Africa, nor has the Great
Bear, armed with native cold, repulsed You. As far as living nature
has stretched towards the poles, so far has earth opened a path for
Your valor. For nations far apart You have made a single fatherland,
held under Your dominion's sway has meant profit even for those who
knew not justice before, and by offering to the vanquished a share in
Your own justice, You have transformed what once was a world into a
City." ~ Rutilius Namatianus


Our thought for today comes from the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius,
11.11

"If things do not come to you, the pursuits and avoidances of which
disturb you, still in a manner you go to them. Let your judgment
about them be put to rest, and they will remain quiet, and you will
not be seen either pursuing or avoiding."

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus S.P.D.

Back in 2004 when Gn. Equitius Marinus was consul he issued an edict
of general amnesty which can be found here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NovaRoma-Announce/message/452

I recommend that our current consul Tiberius Galerius Paulinus do that
same action as the last action of 2007 before the new year, failing
this I ask the new consules taking office to consider an action
similar to the one taken by consular Marinus back in July 2004.

Valete:

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

Cato M. Moravio Piscino sal.

Salve, Moravius Piscinus.

The "vulgarities" of which you speak should, I believe, more properly
be referred to in the singular, pertaining to my anger over the
continual complaining about lawsuits. Regardless, I do not retract a
single word of that paragraph.

The *current* celebrations of "peace on earth" derive directly from the
observances of the birth I mentioned. Islam honors it, Judaism has
nothing to do with it - Chanukah celebrates the military victory of the
Maccabbean armies and re-dedication of the Temple in Jerusalem - and
the Saturnalia looked back at the Golden Age of Saturn but was
celebrated in merriment and games. Please find me another historic
text with the exact phrase "in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis"
and I will gladly agree.

In the meantime, prosecute away - once I have left office. Perhaps if
Maior has her way you won't need to do anything at all, as the
Respublica will officially make anyone who does not practice the
religio Romana both publicly and privately unwelcome here.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
wrote:
Perhaps if

> Maior has her way you won't need to do anything at all, as the
> Respublica will officially make anyone who does not practice the
> religio Romana both publicly and privately unwelcome here.
>

What a stupid thing to say. Why would the Respublica officially make
anyone leave for not being RR? Do you really think Maior has that much
power and influence she can convince most of her senators(even the
christian ones) to accept a law that forbids non-RR from being here? I
wouldn't mind an all RR Respublica, but there's no way that'll ever
happen. Hello? You have the dominant religion.

I find it odd that out of all the other religious reconstruction org's
I'm a member of, this is the only one that allows other religions to
be present.

-Annia Minucia Marcella

Cato A. Minuciae Marcellae sal.

Salve Minucia Marcella.

Have you actually read anything on this list in the past week or so?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
wrote:

>
> Cato A. Minuciae Marcellae sal.
>
> Salve Minucia Marcella.
>
> Have you actually read anything on this list in the past week or so?
>

Have you?

-Annia Minucia Marcella

>>what are we, "Dynasty" with togas?<<

Salve Cato amice,

You know, a large portion of our cives won't even know what "Dynasty"
is?

Getting old is hell!

Happy New Year to you and to Nova Roma.

Vale et valete,

C. Popillius Laneas

Laenas Aureliano Palladio SPD,

I have had no contact with Drusus for at least a year (probably more
like 2). The last contact indicated he was very seriouslly ill. I
don't know of ay Nova Roamani who is in contact with him.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@... wrote:
>
> Aurelianus Palladio sal.
>
> L. Sicinius and I have not been in communication for some time
now. He may
> still be active on the Back Alley. Senator Laenas or Senator
Maximus may be
> in communication with him and I would refer you to them for more
information.
> His legal name is John Dobbins and he lives in Georgia but I have
no more
> knowledge of him beyond that. You might be able to get more
information from
> the Censores.
>
> Vale.
>
>
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Salvem,

I've never seen Dynasty, but I've heard of it. Born in '79 btw.

Vale,

Annia Minucia Marcella
http://www.myspace.com/novabritannia
http://novabritannia.org/
http://ciarin.com/governor

Esquiline Hill, Vicus Sabuci

----- Original Message -----
From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Dynasty???!!!


>>what are we, "Dynasty" with togas?<<

Salve Cato amice,

You know, a large portion of our cives won't even know what "Dynasty"
is?

Getting old is hell!

Happy New Year to you and to Nova Roma.

Vale et valete,

C. Popillius Laneas





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Salvete Marine, Felix et Pallade

Yes, it makes sense now, thank you...

Valete bene

TAGenialis
tagenialis@...

> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
> Enviada em: domingo, 30 de dezembro de 2007 14:49
> Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Why using legal name in oath?
>
> Salve Geniali,
>
> Titus Arminius Genialis <tagenialis@...> writes:
>
> > I have one question concerning the oath of office...
> > Why using our legal name on its formula? Why not using only
> the Roman name?
>
> I hope D. Iunius Palladius will answer this too, as he's the
> author of the law that requires the oath. My understanding
> is that your legal name is inculded because you're becoming
> an officer in a corporation when you assume that magistracy.
>
> Vale,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
>
>
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C. Popillius Laenas Quirites salutem dicit.

One of the most inspriing actions of my Consulship was conducting the
Consular Inauguration ceremony on the dawn of the new year - even
though I am not a practitioner.

I performed the ceremony at midnight US Central time to correspond with
dawn in Rome. I trust the incoming Consuls will perform the ceremony
(most likely led by M. Moravius Piscinus) and post the text.

I hope this moving ceremony will bless our Republic and soothe the
recent turmoil.

I believe it is something that anyone who loves ancient Rome -
practitioner or not - can appreciate.

Valete.

>>Born in '79 btw<<

Ye Gods!!! What a babe in arms! ;-)

Laenas

Salve Laenas,

gaiuspopilliuslaenas <gaiuspopillius@...> writes:

>>> Born in '79 btw<<
>
> Ye Gods!!! What a babe in arms! ;-)

Don't you know it? Heck, she's only a year older than my youngest.

(We'll spare the Republic-at-large the ensuing conversation that
involves walking to school uphill, both ways, in the snow and writing
our own computer code back when FORTRAN wasn't even three-tran.)

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

My best wishes to ALL of you for he New Year

Valete bene

M·CVRIATIVS·COMPLVTENSIS



SENATOR
PROPRAETOR HISPANIAE
SCRIBA CENSORIS KFBM
NOVA ROMA

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ex paucis multa, ex minimis maxima

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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...>
wrote:

>
> Salve Laenas,
>
> gaiuspopilliuslaenas <gaiuspopillius@...> writes:
>
> >>> Born in '79 btw<<
> >
> > Ye Gods!!! What a babe in arms! ;-)
>
> Don't you know it? Heck, she's only a year older than my youngest.
>
> (We'll spare the Republic-at-large the ensuing conversation that
> involves walking to school uphill, both ways, in the snow and writing
> our own computer code back when FORTRAN wasn't even three-tran.)
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>

coded on a RTTY at 75 baud to a PDP11 in highschool
I still have a coreplane ram all of 4K in 4 in by 8 in .LOL

Marcus Cornelius Felix

Cn. Cornelius Lentulus camillus Concordiae, sacerdos Pannoniae, rogator, legatus pro praetore Pannoniae, quaestor designatus: consulibus, consulibus designatis, praetoribus, praetoribus designatis, tribunisque plebis, pontificibus, flaminibus, omibusque sacerdotibus, Quiritibus, praesertim civibus Pannoniis s. p. d.:

Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, Camillus of Concordia, Provincial Sacerdos of Pannonia, Rogator, Legatus pro praetore of Pannonia, Quaestor Elect: sends greetings to the Consuls, the Consul Elects, to the Praetors, the Praetor Elects, to the Tribunes of the Plebs, to the Pontifices, flamens, to every priest, and to the Quirites, especially to the Pannonian citizens:


Salvete, avete!

I would like to thank all magistrates for their work and service, especially to Consul Ti. Galerius Paulinus.

Thank you very much for your votes, who elected me a Quaestor once again. I will try to serve you as well as I can.

The Collegium Pontifdicum got my application for Sacerdos of Concordia, so now I'm Camillus of Concordia: priesthood applicant of the godess.

Tomorrow, there will be the Tenth Anniversary of the New Rome. The tenth year of our existence: I, as the Camillus of Dea Concordia, hearby announce an unofficial sacred year for Dea Concordia. I will offer sacrifices every Kalends and Ides of every month. The first, opening sacrifice will be conducted tomorrow, the Kalends of January, at my home. In this sacrifice I will ask Concordia to bless our Republic with unity, strength and peace: I aks every new and out going magistrate to include Dea Concordia in their New Year prayers and pray for the ten years old Nova Roman Republic.

As legatus pro praetore and sacerdos of Pannonia, I also will conduct a sacrifice for my province and for the 10th Anniversary of Nova Roma tomorrow. I ask every governor to do so. Pray for your province and the 10 years old Nova Roma with a sacrifice!

All Priests of Nova Roma!

Make a sacrifice on the Kalends of January of the 10th Anniversary of the Republic!


FELICITER IN MMDCCLXI - IN DECIMO ANNIVERSARIO NOVAE ROMAE!



Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
QUAESTOR DESIGNATUS
R O G A T O R
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Legatus Pro Praetore Provinciae Pannoniae
Sacerdos Provinciae Pannoniae
Interpres Linguae Hungaricae
Accensus Consulis Ti. Galerii Paulini
Scriba Praetricis A. Tulliae Scholasticae
Scriba Aedilis Curulis Iuliae Caesaris Cytheridis Aeges
Scriba Interpretis Linguae Latinae A. Tulliae Scholasticae
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Decurio I. Sodalitatis Latinitatis
Dominus Factionis Russatae
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Salve,

I would like to take the time now before things get extremely busy later to wish all citizens and their family a very Happy New Year. May the coming year bring to all of you great health and prosperity. May all the things you wish to accomplish in the coming year be fulfilled to the greatest extent and may the eternal Gods shine upon your houses always.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
Lucius Iulius Regulus


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Fl. Galerius Aurelianus G. Equitio Cato sal.

I have to fall in line with Piscinus on this one, Praetor. Christianity is
much like the Religio Romana and most other faiths in that it did not spring
forth full grown, like Athena from the head of Zeus, but changed over time to
accommodate the Faithful. The celebration of Christ's birth in December was
borrowed from the Romans and later practices from the Germans (trees, logs,
greenery). The cultus of the Virgin Mary borrowed extensively from the cult
of Diana of Ephesus and the Ecumenical Council that created that cultus was
even held in Ephesus. Orthodoxy, heterodoxy, monophysitism, dualism,
Arianism, Albigensianism, Jacobite, Syrian, Nestorian, Coptic--all make a claim for
the one true & correct form of Christianity. I do not believe that Man is in
a position to limit his God in these ways.

Saturnalia was an ancient festival among the Romans and Italians that was
intended to represent a Golden Age before Man practiced war on Man and Nature
gave Her bounty freely and without the need for so much work. Channukah also
predates the Christian faith by hundreds of years and represented a time when
the Temple was restored to the Jews.

The cultus of Mithras also predated Christianity and represented a time when
a Light Bringer was born from a rock in darkness bearing a torch and knife,
attended by shepherds from the fields.

For you to suggest that the only reason why modern Man celebrates this time
of year as a season of peace is due solely to the birth of Christ borders on
blasphemy. I have always been a very tolerant individual who believes that
there are many paths to the Light and who believes that my Creator is without
limit or contradiction. You should try to remember that your God is also
without limit or contradiction.

Your statement is very impious and I believe that you do owe an extensive
apology to others on this list.

Vale.



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& A Bonum Faustum Novum Annum
to you and all Nova Romans
in every single time zone!

May Salus and Concordia watch over the res publica. And may Bacchus
and Venus favour you in your celebrations;-)!
M. Hortensia Maior

>
> Salve,
>
> I would like to take the time now before things get extremely busy

later to wish all citizens and their family a very Happy New Year.
May the coming year bring to all of you great health and prosperity.
May all the things you wish to accomplish in the coming year be
fulfilled to the greatest extent and may the eternal Gods shine upon
your houses always.

>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
> Lucius Iulius Regulus
>
>
>

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Salvete Quirites et Amici!

I wish You all a Happy New Year!
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Princeps Senatus
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "vallenporter" <vallenporter@...> wrote:

>

> coded on a RTTY at 75 baud to a PDP11 in highschool
> I still have a coreplane ram all of 4K in 4 in by 8 in .LOL
>
> Marcus Cornelius Felix
>

LOL nerd alert, haha.

-Annia Minucia Marcella

Salvete omnes,

I used to have to pound rocks just to make dirt.

Valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "vallenporter" <vallenporter@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Laenas,
> >
> > gaiuspopilliuslaenas <gaiuspopillius@> writes:
> >
> > >>> Born in '79 btw<<
> > >
> > > Ye Gods!!! What a babe in arms! ;-)
> >
> > Don't you know it? Heck, she's only a year older than my youngest.
> >
> > (We'll spare the Republic-at-large the ensuing conversation that
> > involves walking to school uphill, both ways, in the snow and
writing
> > our own computer code back when FORTRAN wasn't even three-tran.)
> >
> > CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
> >
> coded on a RTTY at 75 baud to a PDP11 in highschool
> I still have a coreplane ram all of 4K in 4 in by 8 in .LOL
>
> Marcus Cornelius Felix
>

Salve,

Well said, sir. I believe Cato has already apologised for being
offensive, perhaps he can make another and mean it this time.

Vale,

Annia Minucia Marcella

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@... wrote:
>
> Fl. Galerius Aurelianus G. Equitio Cato sal.
>
> I have to fall in line with Piscinus on this one, Praetor.
Christianity is
> much like the Religio Romana and most other faiths in that it did
not spring
> forth full grown, like Athena from the head of Zeus, but changed
over time to
> accommodate the Faithful. The celebration of Christ's birth in
December was
> borrowed from the Romans and later practices from the Germans
(trees, logs,
> greenery). The cultus of the Virgin Mary borrowed extensively from
the cult
> of Diana of Ephesus and the Ecumenical Council that created that
cultus was
> even held in Ephesus. Orthodoxy, heterodoxy, monophysitism, dualism,
> Arianism, Albigensianism, Jacobite, Syrian, Nestorian, Coptic--all
make a claim for
> the one true & correct form of Christianity. I do not believe that
Man is in
> a position to limit his God in these ways.
>
> Saturnalia was an ancient festival among the Romans and Italians
that was
> intended to represent a Golden Age before Man practiced war on Man
and Nature
> gave Her bounty freely and without the need for so much work.
Channukah also
> predates the Christian faith by hundreds of years and represented a
time when
> the Temple was restored to the Jews.
>
> The cultus of Mithras also predated Christianity and represented a
time when
> a Light Bringer was born from a rock in darkness bearing a torch and
knife,
> attended by shepherds from the fields.
>
> For you to suggest that the only reason why modern Man celebrates
this time
> of year as a season of peace is due solely to the birth of Christ
borders on
> blasphemy. I have always been a very tolerant individual who
believes that
> there are many paths to the Light and who believes that my Creator
is without
> limit or contradiction. You should try to remember that your God is
also
> without limit or contradiction.
>
> Your statement is very impious and I believe that you do owe an
extensive
> apology to others on this list.
>
> Vale.
>
>
>
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Cato M. Moravio Piscino Fl. Galerio Aureliano omnibusque SPD

Salvete omnes.

Galerius Aurelianus, Moravius Piscinus, although I disagree with some
of the statements that each of you made in their particulars, in the
general you are both correct, and I apologize to you and to our
citizens of all stripes for allowing my temper to digress in a most
useless way.

With full respect to the Chinese, the Orthodox Jewish, the Mayans, the
US Federal Government &c. et al., we do begin a new year tomorrow, and
there is simply no point to continue arguing over what are ultimately
absolutely unknowable quantities in the human experience.

Happy New Year to one and all! I don't have a driver's license, so
the worst I can generally do is fall down, but if you drink, do so
responsib...lilb..ilblitib...hic!

Valete bene in pax!

Cato

P.S. - FGA, the *Eastern Orthodox* are right, it's right there in the
name! :-) GEC

> coded on a RTTY at 75 baud to a PDP11 in highschool
> I still have a coreplane ram all of 4K in 4 in by 8 in .LOL

You had RAM?!?!? Man. We had to haul the bitbucket down to the
bitstream, fill it with ones and zeros, and carry it back up the hill.
The ones would fall out through the hole in the bottom, and all we'd
have is zeros.

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> writes:

> I used to have to pound rocks just to make dirt.

I guess growing up in NYC is like that, yeah.

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Cato A. Minuciae Marcellae sal.

Salve Minucia Marcella.

Geez Louise do you have a CHART with my buttons on it? You just don't
stop pushing, do you? Happy New Year!

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Annia Minucia Marcella" <annia@...>
wrote:

>
> Salve,
>
> Well said, sir. I believe Cato has already apologised for being
> offensive, perhaps he can make another and mean it this time.
>
> Vale,
>
> Annia Minucia Marcella

Salve Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

�Back in 2004 when Gn. Equitius Marinus was consul he issued an edict of
general amnesty�

In Gn. Equitius Marinus Edict he stated that

� All pending petitionis actionis which have been accepted by a Praetor but
not yet gone to trial are vacated. Petitioners may, under the terms of the
Lex Salicia Poenalis, reusubmit their petitios actionis after the Ludi
Apollonaris, but are strongly encouraged to seek a non-judicial solution
through Concordia. In the same spirit of Concordia, those against whom
charges have been levied are strongly encouraged to seek out and ask
forgiveness from the petitioners who have filed against them.�

This year the solution of seeking a non-judicial solution through Concordia
has been attempted by the edit of the Praetors and you. The reus did not
act and then the edict was then vetoed. the only recourse left to the
actor is to go to trial. Gn. Equitius Marinus other recommendation was for
any citizens who had had charges filed against them to seek out and ask
forgiveness from those taking them to court.

Again this has not done been done as far as I know.

A trial will have to be held because the reus does not believe she has
violated our laws and the actor does.

If the reus believes she is innocent she has every right, nay an obligation
to clear her name in the courts of Nova Roma. Moreover I am not sure how a
Consul could stop this as a petitionis actionis is an action between two
citizens and is not an act of a magistrate.

Our laws are clear that if certain elements are met then a trial must go
forward. Last time I checked the power to veto a trial was not granted to
our Consuls or Tribunes and only under certain circumstances can they be
delayed by our Praetors.

Even if it could be done it could still refilled in a few hours after the
new year starts. By then the reus will be a magistrate of Nova Roma and any
trial would have to be postponed for a year.

For a year a member of the Senate and a magistrate of Nova Roma will be
under a cloud . Some citizens will think that she may have done something
wrong and may for the moment have gotten away with it.

Is that best for Nova Roma? I don�t think it is. Best to go forward have the
trial and let Roman
citizens decide the issue.

Consuls may do many things but sometimes letting justice take its course may
be the best thing they can do.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Consul

Salvete Nova Romans

Thank you for the honor of serving as Consul.
I would not have given up the experience for anything.

I wish our new Consuls the very best as Nova Roma turns
Ten this new year.

I herby dismiss my Consular staff with my sincere thanks
and with gratitude for services rendered.

Valete

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Consul

L. Livia Plauta Caesoni Fabio Buteoni Modiano S.P.D.

I'm sorry that I received your private email after
writing this:

> "You, and the co-signers of the edict are probably trying to use

your

> last days of office to settle a personal grudge, otherwise you
> wouldn't have picked Maior out of all the other people who made
> controversial posts."

I hereby publicly aknowledge that Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus has no
grudge against Marca Hortensia Maior and is in fact her friend.

> Instead of a petitio
> actionis a good argument against her words would have been

sufficient.

I think that's exactly the gist of the matter.

Vale,
L. Livia Plauta

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus S.P.D.

Ex Officio

Here is further information from the Census of 2007.

Valete:

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

Census 2007 Report Part II
Officina Census CFBM
Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus, Censor
Marca Hortensia Maior, Scriba Censoris Census Primus
Scribae Censoris Officinae Census:
T. Arminius Genialis, Gn. Cornelius Lentullus, Gn. Equitius Marinus,
M. Iulius Severus, and M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.

Authority:

Constitution of Nova Roma Sections II.A. 4 and IV.A.1.b
Lex Fabia de Censu 31 May 2003
Edictum Censoris CFBQ XXXIV 4 July 2005

Purpose and Results

The Officina Census conducted a census of all current members of Nova
Roma from 1 Nov. to 1Dec. 2007. On file with the censors are the
records of approximately 3787 applicants for membership, down from the
4332 files reviewed during Census 2005. Among these were 910 files of
applicants who were never approved for membership. At the start of the
census 135 applicants were still being processed, another 106 Citizens
were in probationary status awaiting full citizenship. Another 226
former members have officially renounced their citizenship. The census
began with 1189 former applicants and/or members listed as
"disappeared." Five Citizens were listed as deceased. The focus of the
census was thus placed on determining the status of the remaining 1216
members classified as Active Citizens.

Among Active members are four categories of cives:

1. Assidui who contributed annual dues to Nova Roma in 2007
2. Cives who voted in the elections of December 2004
3. Probationary Cives who joined after 1 January 2007 and had not yet
completed their probationary period prior to 1 December 2007.
4. Capite Censi who responded to the Officina Census or to the
propraetor/propraetrix of their respective provincia.

At the completion of Census 2005 it was determined that Nova Roma had
a total of 662 full citizens and an additional 184 probationary
citizens, for a potential of 846 Active members. Inactive Socii
amounted to 1749 members, including 501 Socii who warranted being
reclassified with a status of "Disappeared." By the beginning of
Census 2007 the category of Socii had been eliminated, reducing the
total number of files kept, and there were listed 1242 as
"Disappeared." Through the process of the census another 440 were
discovered who could not be contacted, and thus the number of those
listed as "Disappeared" has increased to 1682 as of 1 December 2007.
An overview of 831 Active Citizens is given below. The total number
of Active Citizens decreased only 15 from 2005, with the main
difference seen in the number of new applicants accepted as
probationary Citizens even though, with over 900 applicants in 2007
alone, there has actually been an increase in the number of new
applicants.

Full Citizens by Year of Citizenship

As m As f CC m CC f Mn Total
1998 11 3 4 1 0 19
1999 6 0 7 2 0 15
2000 9 4 14 4 2 33
2001 20 6 29 1 1 57
2002 20 7 36 9 1 73
2003 12 6 20 5 0 43
2004 21 5 38 8 3 75
2005 27 13 57 7 5 109
2006 33 13 68 9 6 129
2007 28 6 109 18 4 165

Citizens by Gender

Cives: Assidui Capite Censi minors Probationary Totals
male 187 382 16 99 684 82%
female 63 64 6 14 147 18 %

Patricias and Plebeians

Cives: Assidui Capite Censi minors Probationary Totals
Patrician 67 65 6 138 17%
Plebeian 183 381 16 113 693 83 %

Citizens by Provincia
1 Dec. 2007 As CC Mn Prob. Total Diff. 2005
Britannia 7 16 0 5 28 - 15
Dacia 16 3 1 0 20 - 1 (Deceased)
Gallia 8 6 0 5 19 - 1
Germania 6 13 0 7 26 + 4
Hibernia 1 1 0 0 2 - 1
Hispania 13 62 0 16 91 + 2
Italia 12 37 1 8 58 + 10
Pannonia 6 5 0 1 12 - 2
Sarmatia 0 4 3 1 8 + 7
Thule 12 13 0 2 27 - 4
Venedia 0 3 0 0 3 + 2
Unorganized 1 1 0 2 4 + 1
Europe 82 164 5 47 298 + 2

North America As CC Mn Prob. Total Diff. 2005
Canada Occidentalis 9 3 0 1 13 + 3
Canada Orientalis 7 20 3 1 31 + 14

America Austroccidentalis 17 24 1 11 53 + 4
America Austrorientalis 27 26 0 8 61 - 18
America Boreoccidentalis 5 14 0 3 22 - 2
California 10 22 0 6 38 - 13
Lacus Magni 13 28 0 5 46 - 4
America Mediatlantica 23 38 2 9 72 - 12
America Mediocc. Superior 6 8 0 2 16 - 8
Nova Britannia 17 18 1 3 39 + 3

Mexico 5 10 0 2 17 - 2
North America 139 211 7 51 408 -35

Central America 1 5 0 1 7 N/A

South America As CC Mn Prob. Total Diff. 2005
Argentina 0 9 0 1 10 - 5
Brasilia 20 37 1 1 59 + 15
Peru 1 8 1 1 11 + 9
Unorganized 1 12 3 3 19 + 10
South America 22 66 5 6 99 + 29


As CC Mn Prob. Total Diff. 2005
Asia Ulterior 3 3 0 1 7 - 1
Asia Inferior 3 4 0 4 11 + 3
Australia 4 3 0 1 8 - 2

Africa (Unorganized) 0 4 0 1 5 - 4

1 Dec. 2007 As CC Mn Prob. Total Diff. 2005
Totals 254 460 22 112 843 - 3
The Assidui
Among the 714 full Citizens that Nova Roma had by the end of the
census, 254 are assidui. This is the same proportion (36%) as was
found in Census 2005. The number of assidui increased in all regions
except in South America where the number has decreased at the same
time that GNP in the countries of this region has likewise decreased.
The chart below rearranges the provinciae according to the number of
assidui in each. Differences in the tax rate (projected for 2008) for
each provincia were then considered to show what each provincia will
potentially provide in revenues to Nova Roma for the coming year. The
increase or decrease shown in parentheses reflects that tax rates have
fluctuated since 2005, with the tax rates rises for next year in North
America and Europe, but decreasing in South America.

America Austrorientalis 27 $394.20 (+$173.20)
America Mediatlantica 23 $335.80 (-$41.20)
America Austroccidentalis 17 $248.20 (+$27.20)
Nova Britannia 17 $248.20 (-$37.80)
Lacus Magni 13 $189.80 (-$5.20)
Thule 12 @ $150.89 (+$60.89)
California 10 $146.00 (+$29.00)
Italia 12 $120.84 (-$5.16)
Hispania 13 $118.69 (-$63.31)
Canada Occidentalis 9 $107.10 (+$47.10)
America Mediocc. Superior 6 $87.60 (+$35.60)
Gallia 8 @ $85.60 (+$45.60)
Canada Orientalis 7 $83.30 (+43.30)
Britannia 7 $74.20 (-$33.80)
America Boreoccidentalis 5 $73.00 (-$5.00)
Germania 6 @ $67.06 (+$17.06)
Brasilia 20 $58.60 (-$1.40)
Dacia 16 $48.48 (+$38.48)
Australia 4 $44.40 (+$44.40)
Pannonia 6 @ $38.46 (+$21.46)
Asia Orientalis 3 $33.09 (+$29.09)
Mexico 5 $17.85 (+$14.85)
Latin America (Unorganized) 4 $17.00 (+$5.00)
Hibernia 1 $14.83 (+4.83)
Asia Occidentalis 3 $11.64 (+$11.64)
Africa (Unorganized) 0 $0 (-$4.30)
Argentina 0 $0 (No Change)
Sarmatia 0 $0 (No Change)
Venedia 0 $0 (No Change)

Totals 254 $2814.83 (+$443.53)

Conduct of the Census

Announcements of the census were posted to the Nova Roma Mainpage,
Mainlist and Announcements Board. Scriba Census Primus M. Hortensia
Maior and the scribae of the Offica Census CFBM contacted each of the
provincial governors. Provincial governors then posted the
announcement of the census to provincial email lists and contacted
individual Citizens.

The Offica Census 2007 sent out emails to all 1216 Active Civis on 3
November, followed again on 17 November. Additional emails were sent
out in Spanish to those Cives in Mexico, Central America, South
America and Spain. Translations into other languages were provided by
governors to their provincial lists. Censor Caeso Fabius Buteo
Modianus then sent personal emails to all Active Citzens between 17 –
19 November. When emails were returned for a bad email address, the
governors of the respective provincia was notified and asked to do a
follow up by alternate means so that individual files could be
updated.

Salvete omnes,
the new year started half an hour ago over here in Rome. So it's now
Kal. Ian. ‡ M. Moravio T. Iulio cos. ‡ MMDCCLXI a.u.c.

I salute all the new magistrates and wish a happy new year to all!

Valete in pace,
L. Livia Plauta

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Tiberio Galerio Paulino salutem dicit

I didn't suspect you would agree with my idea of amnesty, and that is
why I also addressed the incoming consules.

Vale:

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
Senior Censor (at least by Roman time, a few more hours here in
Eastern Standard Time)

On Dec 31, 2007 5:48 PM, Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:
> Salve Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> "Back in 2004 when Gn. Equitius Marinus was consul he issued an edict of
> general amnesty"
>
> In Gn. Equitius Marinus Edict he stated that
>
> " All pending petitionis actionis which have been accepted by a Praetor but
> not yet gone to trial are vacated. Petitioners may, under the terms of the
> Lex Salicia Poenalis, reusubmit their petitios actionis after the Ludi
> Apollonaris, but are strongly encouraged to seek a non-judicial solution
> through Concordia. In the same spirit of Concordia, those against whom
> charges have been levied are strongly encouraged to seek out and ask
> forgiveness from the petitioners who have filed against them."
>
> This year the solution of seeking a non-judicial solution through Concordia
> has been attempted by the edit of the Praetors and you. The reus did not
> act and then the edict was then vetoed. the only recourse left to the
> actor is to go to trial. Gn. Equitius Marinus other recommendation was for
> any citizens who had had charges filed against them to seek out and ask
> forgiveness from those taking them to court.
>
> Again this has not done been done as far as I know.
>
> A trial will have to be held because the reus does not believe she has
> violated our laws and the actor does.
>
> If the reus believes she is innocent she has every right, nay an obligation
> to clear her name in the courts of Nova Roma. Moreover I am not sure how a
> Consul could stop this as a petitionis actionis is an action between two
> citizens and is not an act of a magistrate.
>
> Our laws are clear that if certain elements are met then a trial must go
> forward. Last time I checked the power to veto a trial was not granted to
> our Consuls or Tribunes and only under certain circumstances can they be
> delayed by our Praetors.
>
> Even if it could be done it could still refilled in a few hours after the
> new year starts. By then the reus will be a magistrate of Nova Roma and any
> trial would have to be postponed for a year.
>
> For a year a member of the Senate and a magistrate of Nova Roma will be
> under a cloud . Some citizens will think that she may have done something
> wrong and may for the moment have gotten away with it.
>
> Is that best for Nova Roma? I don't think it is. Best to go forward have the
> trial and let Roman
> citizens decide the issue.
>
> Consuls may do many things but sometimes letting justice take its course may
> be the best thing they can do.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Consul

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Censor S.P.D.

I want to wish everyone in Nova Roma a Blessed New Year!

I also want to show my gratitude and friendship to my colleague of
MMDCCLX, Marcus Octavius Gracchus. I have considered Octavius a true
friend for many years now and it was a pleasure and an honor to work
with him!

I also wish the thank and show gratitude and friendship to my staff
from this year: Marcus Cuiatius Complutensis, Marcus Moravius
Piscinus, Titus Arminius Genialis, Marcus Iulius Severus, Publius
Constantinus Placidus, Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, Titus Flavius
Aquila, and Marca Hortensia Maior. Thank you all for your diligent
and excellent work, one more year to go!

Also to those who have helped with new citizenship applications,
Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus, Quintus Seutonius Paulinus, and A. Tullia
Scholastica, A. Apollonius Cordus, and Q. Caecilius Metellus. Thank
you for your dedication and excellent work!

It has been a busy year for all of us, and I look forward to an
auspicious year to come! My sincere gratitude to all of you!

Valete:

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
Senior Censor

Ego, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me
defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse
sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, officio censoris Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae
temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me
persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam
defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid
detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, officiis muneris censoris me quam optime
functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus censoris una cum iuribus, privilegiis,
muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.


I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Timothy Paul Gallagher) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Timothy Paul
Gallagher) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Timothy Paul Gallagher) swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Timothy Paul Gallagher) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Timothy Paul Gallagher ) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Censor to the
best of my abilities. On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and
favor, do I accept the position of Censor and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Done on this day Kal. IANVARIAS MMDCCLXI A.V.C in the consulship of Marcus
Moravius Piscinus Horatianus and Titus Iulius Sabinus.

Salve,

Along with pushing buttons, I have many l33t skillz. I pwn j00 nubsauce!

/flex

Happy New Year!

Vale,

Annia Minucia Marcella


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
wrote:

>
> Cato A. Minuciae Marcellae sal.
>
> Salve Minucia Marcella.
>
> Geez Louise do you have a CHART with my buttons on it? You just don't
> stop pushing, do you? Happy New Year!
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato

Salvete magistrati elect,

In antiquity, the consuls were inaugurated first, in order of
seniority. Next the praetors were inaugurated, and so on through the
various offices. While we don't have the augurs taking auspicia for
each of our magistrates now, we do have the taking of oaths. Toward
that end, I ask that we all withhold the posting of our oaths of
office until Consuls elect Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus and
Titus Iulius Sabinus have posted theirs, or until after noon in Rome,
whichever comes first.

Valete,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

SALVE ET SALVETE!

Thank you hon. Equiti Marine for this post.

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...> wrote:
Salvete magistrati elect,

In antiquity, the consuls were inaugurated first, in order of
seniority. Next the praetors were inaugurated, and so on through the
various offices. While we don't have the augurs taking auspicia for
each of our magistrates now, we do have the taking of oaths. Toward
that end, I ask that we all withhold the posting of our oaths of
office until Consuls elect Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus and
Titus Iulius Sabinus have posted theirs, or until after noon in Rome,
whichever comes first.

Valete,

CN-EQVIT-MARINVS





"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius





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Salve!

Oh my, haha!

When I first read it I thought you were calling him hon, lmao!

Vale,

Annia Minucia Marcella


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, iulius sabinus <iulius_sabinus@...>
wrote:

>
> SALVE ET SALVETE!
>
> Thank you hon. Equiti Marine for this post.
>
> VALETE,
> IVL SABINVS
>
> Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@...> wrote:
> Salvete magistrati elect,
>
> In antiquity, the consuls were inaugurated first, in order of
> seniority. Next the praetors were inaugurated, and so on through the
> various offices. While we don't have the augurs taking auspicia for
> each of our magistrates now, we do have the taking of oaths. Toward
> that end, I ask that we all withhold the posting of our oaths of
> office until Consuls elect Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus and
> Titus Iulius Sabinus have posted theirs, or until after noon in Rome,
> whichever comes first.
>
> Valete,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>
>
>
>
>
> "Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" -

Appius Claudius

>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Incidentally, I thought the same.

ualete

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Annia Minucia Marcella" <annia@...>
wrote:

>
> Salve!
>
> Oh my, haha!
>
> When I first read it I thought you were calling him hon, lmao!
>
> Vale,
>
> Annia Minucia Marcella
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, iulius sabinus <iulius_sabinus@>
> wrote:
> >
> > SALVE ET SALVETE!
> >
> > Thank you hon. Equiti Marine for this post.
> >
> > VALETE,
> > IVL SABINVS
> >
> > Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@> wrote:
> > Salvete magistrati elect,
> >
> > In antiquity, the consuls were inaugurated first, in order of
> > seniority. Next the praetors were inaugurated, and so on through the
> > various offices. While we don't have the augurs taking auspicia for
> > each of our magistrates now, we do have the taking of oaths. Toward
> > that end, I ask that we all withhold the posting of our oaths of
> > office until Consuls elect Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus and
> > Titus Iulius Sabinus have posted theirs, or until after noon in Rome,
> > whichever comes first.
> >
> > Valete,
> >
> > CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" -
> Appius Claudius
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

SALVETE!

Probably my son will reply, too. To avoid that I present the
corrected version:

"Thank you honorable Equiti Marine for this post"

VALETE,
IVL SABINVS


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "qvalerius" <catullus.poeta@...>
wrote:

>
> Incidentally, I thought the same.
>
> ualete
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Annia Minucia Marcella" <annia@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Salve!
> >
> > Oh my, haha!
> >
> > When I first read it I thought you were calling him hon, lmao!
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Annia Minucia Marcella
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, iulius sabinus

<iulius_sabinus@>

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > SALVE ET SALVETE!
> > >
> > > Thank you hon. Equiti Marine for this post.
> > >
> > > VALETE,
> > > IVL SABINVS
> > >
> > > Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@> wrote:
> > > Salvete magistrati elect,
> > >
> > > In antiquity, the consuls were inaugurated first, in order of
> > > seniority. Next the praetors were inaugurated, and so on

through the

> > > various offices. While we don't have the augurs taking

auspicia for

> > > each of our magistrates now, we do have the taking of oaths.

Toward

> > > that end, I ask that we all withhold the posting of our oaths

of

> > > office until Consuls elect Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus

and

> > > Titus Iulius Sabinus have posted theirs, or until after noon

in Rome,

> > > whichever comes first.
> > >
> > > Valete,
> > >
> > > CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" -
> > Appius Claudius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

I was hoping people here could help me on making the most of my time
and seeing the greatest of the remnants of ancient Rome. I just read
Cicero I so have a good start on memorizing the Forum layout.

I'd really like advice on cheap places to stay (owned by Italians if
possible).

Also, best way to see things without standing in lines for hours (best
tour guides?)

Anything would be appreciated as I doubt I will be back to the capitol
of the world again. Personal emails best.

Thanks

P. Memmius Albucius omnibus s.d.

Happy new year to all, to these who have already, in Asia or Europe,
celebrated the openings of our Kalends, or to you, who will soon do it!


Valete bene omnes,



P. Memmius Albucius
Leg. pp. Galliae

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Consul: T. Iulio Sabino Consuli
Collegae, Praetoribus, Tribunibus plebis, Senatoribus Patribus
Mátribusque Conscriptís, viris clarissimis et castissimae mulieribus,
Civibus omibus salutem plurimam dicit: Bonum Annum Novum faustum
felicem

Ego, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), hac re ipsa
decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae
Romae acturum esse sollemniter iuro.

Ego, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), officio
Consulis Novae Romae accepto, Deos Deasque Romae in omnibus meae
vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica
privataque vita me persecuturum esse iuro.

Ego, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), religioni
Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum
publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat iuro.

Ego, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), officiis
muneris Consulis me quam optime functurum esse praeterea iuro.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram Deis Deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Consulis una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus accipio.

Ab manu Kal Ian AUC MMDCCLXI M. Moravio T. Iulio cos.

__________

Yo, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), juro
solemnemente salvaguardar el honor de Nova Roma y actuar siempre
conforme a los intereses del Pueblo y el Senado de Nova Roma.

Como Cónsul de Nova Roma, yo, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus
(John Reali), juro honrar a los Dioses y Diosas de Roma en mis
actividades públicas y practicar las Virtudes Romanas en mi vida
pública y privada.

Yo, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), juro
salvaguardar y defender la Religio Romana como la Religión de Estado
de Nova Roma y juro jamás actuar de manera que ponga en peligro su
carácter de Religión de Estado.

Yo, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), juro proteger y
defender la Constitución de Nova Roma.

Yo, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), juro asimismo
cumplir las obligaciones y responsabilidades que conlleva el cargo de
Cónsul, al máximo de mis capacidades. Por mi honor como ciudadano de
Nova Roma y en presencia de los Dioses y Diosas del pueblo romano y
con Su voluntad y beneplácito, acepto el cargo de Cónsul, con todos
los derechos, privilegios, obligaciones y responsabilidades
inherentes.

Dado de mano propia, el primero de enero, en los 2761 años de la
fundación de la Ciudad de Roma, en el consulado de Marcus Moravius y
Titus. Iulius

_________

I, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), do solemnly
swear to uphold the honour of Nova Roma and to act always in the best
interests of the People and Senate of Nova Roma.

As Consul of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John
Reali), swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), swear to uphold
and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), swear to protect
and defend the constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Consul
to the best of my abilities.

On my honour as a citizen of Nova Roma and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by Their will and favor,
do I accept the office of Consul and all the rights, privileges,
obligations and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given by my hand on the first of January, 2761 years from the
founding of the City of Roma, in the consulship of Marcus Moravius
and. Titus Iulius

___________

Ich, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), schwöre
hiermit feierlich, Nova Roma in Ehren zu halten und stets im besten
Interesse von Volk und Senat von Nova Roma zu handeln.

Als Konsul schwöre ich, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John
Reali), die Götter und Göttinnen Roms in meinen öffentlichen
Handlungen zu ehren und römische Tugenden im privaten Leben ebenso zu
befolgen wie im öffentlichen.

Ich, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), schwöre
hiermit feierlich, die Religio Romana als Staatsreligion von Nova
Roma zu ehren und zu verteidigen und niemals in einer Weise zu
handeln, die
ihren Status als Staatsreligion gefährden könnte.

Ich, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), schwöre, die
Verfassung von Nova Roma zu schützen und zu verteidigen.

Ich, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), schwöre ferner
die Pflichten und den Verantwortungsberei ch des Amtes des Konsul
nach besten Kräften zu erfüllen.

Bei meiner Ehre als cives Nova Romanus und in Gegenwart der Götter
und Göttinnen von Rom und mit ihrer Gnade und in Gegenwart des
römischen Volkes nehme ich, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John
Reali), das Amt des Konsul an und alle Rechte, Privilegien,
Verpflichtungen und Verantwortlichkeite n die damit verbunden sind.

Am des Konsulatsjahres von M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus und T.
Iulius Sabinus, 2761 AUC.


__________

Io, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), giuro
solennemente di sostenere l'onore di Nova Roma e di agire sempre
nell'interesse del popolo e del Senato di Nova Roma.

Io, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), nell'atto di
accettare la carica di Console, giuro di onorare gli Dei e le Dee di
Roma nelle mie attività pubbliche, e di perseguire le virtù romane
nella mia vita pubblica e privata.

Io, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), giuro di
sostenere e difendere la Religio Romana come Religione di Stato di
Nova Roma e giuro di non agire mai in alcun modo che possa essere di
detrimento alla sua condizione di Religione di Stato.

Io, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), giuro di
proteggere e difendere la Costituzione di Nova Roma.

Io, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (John Reali), giuro altresì
di adempiere al meglio agli obblighi ed alle responsabilità della
carica di Console.

Sul mio onore come Cittadino di Nova Roma, ed alla presenza degli Dei
e delle Dee del popolo romano e per loro volere e favore, accetto la
posizione di Console e tutti i diritti, i privilegi, gli obblighi e
le responsabilità ad essa afferenti.

Addì 1 gennaio 2761 AUC / 2007, sotto il consolato di M. Moravio
Piscino e T. Iulio Sabino

L. Vitellius T. Antonio SPD

Salve Romulus:

My cousin lives in Roma and is a tour guide there. I will forward her
information to you when I get it from her mother tomorrow.

Vale optime,
Triarius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Tiberius Antonius Romulus"
<chrismidwestwisconsin@...> wrote:

>
> I was hoping people here could help me on making the most of my

time

> and seeing the greatest of the remnants of ancient Rome. I just

read

> Cicero I so have a good start on memorizing the Forum layout.
>
> I'd really like advice on cheap places to stay (owned by Italians

if

> possible).
>
> Also, best way to see things without standing in lines for hours

(best

> tour guides?)
>
> Anything would be appreciated as I doubt I will be back to the

capitol

> of the world again. Personal emails best.
>
> Thanks
>

Agricola Romulo sal.

On this page: http://novaroma.org/nr/Reading_list_for_archaeology I
cannot say enough good things about the Oxford Archaeological Guide
for Rome. In my opinion it is a must-have when visiting Roma.

optime vale!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Tiberius Antonius Romulus"
<chrismidwestwisconsin@...> wrote:

>
> I was hoping people here could help me on making the most of my time
> and seeing the greatest of the remnants of ancient Rome. I just read
> Cicero I so have a good start on memorizing the Forum layout.
>
> I'd really like advice on cheap places to stay (owned by Italians if
> possible).
>
> Also, best way to see things without standing in lines for hours (best
> tour guides?)
>
> Anything would be appreciated as I doubt I will be back to the capitol
> of the world again. Personal emails best.
>
> Thanks
>

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Consul: T. Iulio Sabino Consuli
collegae, Praetoribus, Tribunibus Plebis, Senatoribus Patribus
Mátribusque Conscriptís, viris clarissimis et castissimae mulieribus,
Civibus omnibus Novae Romae, Quiritibus: salutem plurimam dicit:

Annum novum bonum faustum felicem!

Following my devotions on Divalia, the next day being winter
solstice, I took the auspices in regard to Titus Sabinus and I taking
office for this coming year. Below is taken in part from the report
that I sent to the Augures.


My augurculum was laid out previously. The cardo, aligned north to
south, is marked by stations for Caelus Nocturnus and Sol. Castor
and Castoris have stations on the decumanus running east and west,
set each year on the vernal equinox, and most recently checked again
on the autumnal equinox. To the northeast above, then, is the
station for Jupiter. In the southeast is the hortus Cereri, and
beyond Her a station for Silvanus. In the southwest is a station for
Terminus, and thus for an auspicium I generally designate this
quadrant as overseen by Mars. Also in this quadrant is my altar for
the Di Manes lying to the west-southwest. In the northwest then is
the station of Summanus.


After offering wine upon the stations, I took my seat, designated the
boundaries of my celestial templum, and asked, "Iovi, Di Manes, is it
Your will and desire that I, Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus, and
Titus Iulius Sabinus shall serve as Consuls of Nova Roma for the year
2761 since the Founding of Rome by Romulus."



The Sun had cleared the horizon, low to the southeast, winter
solstice having occurred only a matter of six hours earlier. The sky
was heavy with thick clouds, the light of the sun seen glowing behind
clouds. The wind barely moved from Africanus to Volturnus when a
loud flight of geese, the birds of Juno, unseen behind me in the
north, announced the change of wind direction, the clouds suddenly
beginning to move from due south to due north with promises of
warming Astur to arrive with fertilizing rains in spring.



As I was preparing my offering of cakes, a Red Tail Hawk swooped down
out of the northeast, from the quadrant of Jupiter. She came low, at
about my waist level, no more than a metre or so in front of me as
she chased after some suddenly surprised sparrows. Then before my
right arm she banked, flew upward due south and alit on a tree, which
I had previously designated to mark the south. Then coyly looking
over her left shoulder at me, she took flight again, heading back to
the east.



As the sun climbed during the hour of Solis there were no oscines or
alites to appear. Birds ate what I had offered, but indifferently
and quietly. At the beginning of the hour of Venus, an hora bona,
there appeared two crows, the birds of Apollo, close on my left.
Then the bird of Mars, a woodpecker, alit in the tree beside me.
These I took as approving signs, as they are also rarely seen to come
so close to me.



I poured a libation in thanks to Jupiter and concluded the auspicium.



Returning then indoors to my lararium, as is my habit, I next called
upon my lar familiaris, Ceres Ferentia, to provide me with Her
thoughts through a sortes virgiliane:



pone sequens dextra puppim tenet ipsaque dorso
eminet ac laeua tacitis subremigat undis. (Virgil, Aen. 10.226-227)



At fessae multa referunt se nocte minores,
crura thymo plenae; pascuntur et arbuta passim
et glaucas salices casiamque crocumque rubentem (Virgil, Geo 4.180-
182)



"Regard (those) following: he grasps the rudder in his right hand,
and with his left oars the silent waves. And the youths, their tired
legs packed with thyme, come laboring home belatedly, for afar they
range to feed on arbutus and the gray-green willow leaves, and
cassia, and the crocus blushing red."



And then I noticed the first letter of each of the lines in
Latin, "PEACE." This, it seemed to me, thus confirmed by its
surprising message to be an oblativa to confirm that the passages
that I had taken during the sortes virgiliane were in fact intended
as an oblativa related to the auspicium I had just completed. The
question then was in what way these passages related to the signs
that I had seen in response to my question. To me the arbutus would
refer to Janus and Cardea (or Mater Manua), the crocus to Jupiter and
Juno, while cassia would refer to Liber and Libera, and the willow
and thyme, it was later determined, referred to Dis Pater and
Proserpina. Exactly to what the words of these passages may refer to
shall have to wait to be seen. But it does seem to acknowledge
Sabinus and I taking office, or the helm of state as it were, without
little comment either overly favorable or disapproving. Of those
signs I took, some I consider cautionary, some favorable, some
indifferent, and I did not see any signs that could be taken as
disapproving.


To my request that my auspicium be confirmed, Augur Lucius Equitius
Cincinnatus Augur then took his own auspicium and replied:

Aves addictiva (favorable).


Si Dis placet omnis ut fortunas sint precor. Di Deaeque vos bene
ament

Titus Iulius Sabinus Civibus et Senatus Novae Romae SPD:

Bonum Annum Novum faustum felicem !

My oath of office:

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), hac re ipsa decus Novae
Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae
acturum esse sollemniter iuro.

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), officio Consulis Novae
Romae accepto, Deos Deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae
temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me
persecuturum esse iuro.

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), religioni Romanae me
fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum
me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat iuro.

Ego, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), officiis muneris
Consulis me quam optime functurum esse praeterea iuro.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram Deis Deabusque populi Romani, et
voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Consulis una cum iuribus,
privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus accipio.

Datum sub manu mea Kal Ian MMDCCLXI a.U.c, M. Moravio T. Iulio cos.

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I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), do solemnly swear to
uphold the honour of Nova Roma and to act always in the best
interests of the People and Senate of Nova Roma.

As Consul of Nova Roma, I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu),
swear to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings
and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), further swear to fulfill
the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Consul to the
best of my abilities.

On my honour as a citizen of Nova Roma and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by Their will and favor,
do I accept the office of Consul and all the rights, privileges,
obligations and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Given by my hand on the first of January, 2761 years from the
founding of the City of Roma, in the consulship of M. Moravius
and T. Iulius.

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Yo, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), juro solemnemente
salvaguardar el honor de Nova Roma y actuar siempre conforme a los
intereses del Pueblo y el Senado de Nova Roma.

Como Cónsul de Nova Roma, yo, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian
Zavoianu), juro honrar a los Dioses y Diosas de Roma en mis
actividades públicas y practicar las Virtudes Romanas en mi vida
pública y privada.

Yo, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), juro salvaguardar y
defender la Religio Romana como la Religión de Estado de Nova Roma y
juro jamás actuar de manera que ponga en peligro su carácter de
Religión de Estado.

Yo, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), juro proteger y defender
la Constitución de Nova Roma.

Yo, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), juro asimismo cumplir
las obligaciones y responsabilidades que conlleva el cargo de
Cónsul, al máximo de mis capacidades. Por mi honor como ciudadano de
Nova Roma y en presencia de los Dioses y Diosas del pueblo romano y
con Su voluntad y beneplácito, acepto el cargo de Cónsul, con todos
los derechos, privilegios, obligaciones y responsabilidades
inherentes.

Dado de mano propria, el primero de enero, en los 2761 años de la
fundación de la Ciudad de Roma, en el consulado de M. Moravius y
T. Iulius

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Ich, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), schwöre hiermit
feierlich, Nova Roma in Ehren zu halten und stets im besten
Interesse von Volk und Senat von Nova Roma zu handeln.

Als Konsul schwöre ich, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), die
Götter und Göttinnen Roms in meinen öffentlichen Handlungen zu ehren
und römische Tugenden im privaten Leben ebenso zu befolgen wie im
öffentlichen.

Ich, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), schwöre hiermit
feierlich, die Religio Romana als Staatsreligion von Nova Roma zu
ehren und zu verteidigen und niemals in einer Weise zu handeln, die
ihren Status als Staatsreligion gefährden könnte.

Ich, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), schwöre, die Verfassung
von Nova Roma zu schützen und zu verteidigen.

Ich, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), schwöre ferner die
Pflichten und den Verantwortungsberei ch des Amtes des Konsul nach
besten Kräften zu erfüllen.

Bei meiner Ehre als cives Nova Romanus und in Gegenwart der Götter
und Göttinnen von Rom und mit ihrer Gnade und in Gegenwart des
römischen Volkes nehme ich, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu),
das Amt des Konsul an und alle Rechte, Privilegien, Verpflichtungen
und Verantwortlichkeite n die damit verbunden sind.

Am des Konsulatsjahres von M. Moravius und T. Iulius, 2761 a.U.c

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Io, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), giuro solennemente di
sostenere l'onore di Nova Roma e di agire sempre nell'interesse del
popolo e del Senato di Nova Roma.

Io, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), nell'atto di accettare
la carica di Console, giuro di onorare gli Dei e le Dee di Roma
nelle mie attività pubbliche, e di perseguire le virtù romane nella
mia vita pubblica e privata.

Io, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), giuro di sostenere e
difendere la Religio Romana come Religione di Stato di Nova Roma e
giuro di non agire mai in alcun modo che possa essere di detrimento
alla sua condizione di Religione di Stato.

Io, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), giuro di proteggere e
difendere la Costituzione di Nova Roma.

Io, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu), giuro altresì di
adempiere al meglio agli obblighi ed alle responsabilità della
carica di Console.

Sul mio onore come Cittadino di Nova Roma, ed alla presenza degli
Dei e delle Dee del popolo romano e per loro volere e favore,
accetto la posizione di Console e tutti i diritti, i privilegi, gli
obblighi e le responsabilità ad essa afferenti.

Addì 1 gennaio 2761 a.U.c, sotto il consolato di M. Moravio e T.
Iulio

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VALETE,
IVL SABINVS

01.01.2008
Provincia Dacia - Nova Roma.