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M. Valerius Potitus omnibus S.P.D.

Salvete, omnes.

It's odd that the citizens who oppose the Praetor "making up" law when
it went against Cincinnatus have no complaints when the Praetor "makes
up" law and allows a trial in absentia. I see nothing in the written
law that allows a trial in absentia. Since the written law is silent
on this matter, how can the Praetor dare to allow it?

So there appear to be times when making up the law is
acceptable--those times when it favors one's opinions.

Valete,
Potitus

Tuta erit vobis Velia.

Cn. Iulius Caesar M. Valerio Potito quiritibus sal.

There is no inconsistency. Reference the below.

1. Section 3.1.1.4 Lex Salicia poenalis
2. Section 6.2 Lex Salicia poenalis
3. Section 1.A.3 of the Constitution

As the Reus is legally represented and his Advocatus can speak for
him, and togther with the right to fair trial which cannot be
abrogated under the circumstances existing now, this was a reasonable
extension of rights already guaranteed. This of course wasa benefit
to the accused, but within the framework of rights he already had.

Punishing someone for an action that was not an offence at the time
of its commission was the issue for some of us, as this involved the
creation of a new offence.

I'd like to think it is the hallmark of a civilized society where the
benefit of the doubt under a trial process goes to the accused, so I
beg to differ. I don't find it odd.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@...> wrote:
>
> M. Valerius Potitus omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete, omnes.
>
> It's odd that the citizens who oppose the Praetor "making up" law
when

Salve Domine Antoni, and thank you. I like your suggestion very much.
NR is too small and its citizens too interconnected to pretend that
any trial can be conducted fairly. The only ones who benefit from the
current system are the demagogues. Your suggested system has a simple
elegance that could work well.

Vale,
Iustinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "P. Dominus Antonius"
<marsvigilia@...> wrote:

>
> I don't really have a dog in this fight. However I would like to
> point out a couple of things as I see them. Nova Roma is a relatively
> small organization which has encumbered itself with a legal system
> more appropriate to a nation state. And yet even this system appears
> to many to be insufficient to cover the needs. More laws, and more
> laws, more jurisprudence etc. More burden, more complication, more to
> argue about. More confusion.
>
> How about a far less cumberson system where all of these questions of
> exile, fines, etc could be decided by a majority (or super-majority)
> of the Senate and then ratified by a majority of the citizens. I know
> it's not exactly Roman. But as long as alien legal concepts appear to
> be in vogue, Athens had a system of ostracism (exile) to remove
> difficult or argumentative citizens and to help diffuse tensions.
> Limit the exile to a year or two. Cap the possible fines. Almost
> anything is better than these civil wars.
>
> For centuries Rome survived its legal system, and its many civil wars,
> but it had more momentum behind it. Perhaps one day Nova-Roma will
> also have the resources to squander on a burdensome legal system, but
> for now it is like making a toddler wear an adult's toga.
> --
> >|P. Dominus Antonius|<
> Legio XX VV
> Tony Dah m
>
> Si vis pacem, para bellum - Vegetius
> Mahometismus religio pacis, nex omnibus dissidentibus.
>

Potitus Caesar SPD.

Let me see if I understand. The right to a trial in absentia flows from:

1. The right to a fair trial,
2. The presumption of innocence, and
3. The Constitutional guarantee of no ex post facto penalty.

And may I add for you the right to an advocate (Lex Salicia iudicaria XI)?

Forgive me that I'm no Solon, but I don't see how you create a right
to a trial in absentia from these. Are you making up jurisprudence?

Vale,
Potitus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
<gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:

>
> Cn. Iulius Caesar M. Valerio Potito quiritibus sal.
>
> There is no inconsistency. Reference the below.
>
> 1. Section 3.1.1.4 Lex Salicia poenalis
> 2. Section 6.2 Lex Salicia poenalis
> 3. Section 1.A.3 of the Constitution
>
> As the Reus is legally represented and his Advocatus can speak for
> him, and togther with the right to fair trial which cannot be
> abrogated under the circumstances existing now, this was a reasonable
> extension of rights already guaranteed. This of course wasa benefit
> to the accused, but within the framework of rights he already had.
>
> Punishing someone for an action that was not an offence at the time
> of its commission was the issue for some of us, as this involved the
> creation of a new offence.
>
> I'd like to think it is the hallmark of a civilized society where the
> benefit of the doubt under a trial process goes to the accused, so I
> beg to differ. I don't find it odd.

----- Original Message -----

From: sstevemoore

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:09 PM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: In absentia

Potitus Caesar SPD.

Let me see if I understand. The right to a trial in absentia flows from:

1. The right to a fair trial,
2. The presumption of innocence, and
3. The Constitutional guarantee of no ex post facto penalty.

If you were to actually read the archives, you would have realized
that some here had recommended dismissing the trial since it could not
have proceeded. But thank you for the slander! I love it when people
make up my position for me. It's so much easier that way!

Q. Valerius Poplicola

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@...> wrote:
>
> M. Valerius Potitus omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Salvete, omnes.
>
> It's odd that the citizens who oppose the Praetor "making up" law when
> it went against Cincinnatus have no complaints when the Praetor "makes
> up" law and allows a trial in absentia. I see nothing in the written
> law that allows a trial in absentia. Since the written law is silent
> on this matter, how can the Praetor dare to allow it?
>
> So there appear to be times when making up the law is
> acceptable--those times when it favors one's opinions.
>
> Valete,
> Potitus
>
> Tuta erit vobis Velia.
>

Maior Poplicolae omnibusque spd;
well since Cincinnatus exists but isn't showing up, I'd say
he's more like a Roman civis who went into exile to avoid a trial.
How were they treated historically by the Roman courts? Got to ask
Cordus.
If you dismiss, then no one will ever show up for a trial. Why
bother to face the law when you can avoid it? People will figure
that out quickly.
bene valete
Maior

> If you were to actually read the archives, you would have realized
> that some here had recommended dismissing the trial since it could

not

> have proceeded. But thank you for the slander! I love it when

people

> make up my position for me. It's so much easier that way!
>
> Q. Valerius Poplicola
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@> wrote:
> >
> > M. Valerius Potitus omnibus S.P.D.
> >
> > Salvete, omnes.
> >
> > It's odd that the citizens who oppose the Praetor "making up"

law when

> > it went against Cincinnatus have no complaints when the

Praetor "makes

> > up" law and allows a trial in absentia. I see nothing in the

written

> > law that allows a trial in absentia. Since the written law is

silent

> > on this matter, how can the Praetor dare to allow it?
> >
> > So there appear to be times when making up the law is
> > acceptable--those times when it favors one's opinions.
> >
> > Valete,
> > Potitus
> >
> > Tuta erit vobis Velia.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Maior

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:43 AM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: In absentia

Maior Poplicolae omnibusque spd;
well since Cincinnatus exists but isn't showing up, I'd say
he's more like a Roman civis who went into exile to avoid a trial.
How were they treated historically by the Roman courts? Got to ask

.

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----- Original Message -----

From: David Kling (Modianus)

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:58 AM

Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: In absentia

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus S.P.D.

"Oh, but it so much more satisfying isn't it to assume that he is avoiding this process."

Of course he is avoiding the process.

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Salve M. Valerius Potitus

I am the one who asked the Praetor to go on with the trial in absentia.
I did so for a number of reasons.

The phrase I used �in absentia� is Latin and means an absence. I am a former
Praetor and when I had a court case I allowed the Reus to have an advocate
who would speak for him and he did not have to show up in court.

As Praetor I established the �precedent� that a Reus did not
have to be in court as long as he had some one there to represent him/her.
Cincinnatus had appointed an advocate (me) and the advocate was prepared to
present his case in court.

The current Praetors believe there is a legal requirement to show up, I do
not
and did not when I was Praetor. It is one of my contentions in the appeal
of the
first case involving Cincinnatus is that the Praetor has misapplied or
misinterpret
Nova Roma law.

In addition the Reus, nor anybody else is hardly going to sit there every
day the court is in session. In essence all that could be asked is for him
to log onto a list. "Being in court" in this sense is a fallacy as how do we
define in court? The mere registration on a list? That hardly seems grounds
to deny the right to trial when no one can be sure the reus is even reading
the events were they so registered. When one has an advocate, what is the
pressing need for this over the right to fair trial?

Maybe I should have used a different phrase than �in absentia� as the Reus
is
represented in court by his advocate.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

>

He has posted to the list twice since the two petitions.  The first time against me claiming the praetores and myself were "impious."  He, was proven wrong.  And the second time to declare Paulinus his advocatus, probably at the urging of Paulinus. 

I do not believe he has been away for well over a month.  All he needed to do was join an e-mail list (30 seconds) and then let Paulinus or yourself do all the work for him.  But he couldn't even be bothered to do that, and why should he?  Because he has enough people defending him and being his cheer leading squad.  Oh, and lets not forget Diana's visions!

Cincinnatus is a bully, and when you challenge a bully all they can do is run and hide.

And also... its very beneficial to Cincinnatus that the NRCollegiumPontificum list has been deleted by Julianus.  There were several incriminating posts by Cincinnatus on that list that are gone.

Our legal system in Nova Roma is a load of crap.  It doesn't work and it makes no sense to keep it.  I wanted an opportunity to confront him and call him on his actions.  I was denied that and now it doesn't really matter.  The further suit by Piscinus is unnecessary, and what does it matter.  Cincinnatus will get away with it, and only a few people really care.  Those people who have history with the man.

Go an canonize Cincinnatus as some sort of martyr.  I could care less anymore.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:

Caesar Modiano sal.

 

I didn't say too busy, I said away. I think we have to allow for the possibility that he left prior to it being a specific requirement to log onto the tribunal list, which again only came late in the process. Will you not allow for the possibility that he simply hasn't been home? It is entirely possible. As for the rest of your post, I understand you had a very difficult working relationship, or perhaps zero relationship would be more accurate, but I think that you may have allowed your emotions to run away with yourself over the accusations of cowardice. These were complex legal issues he was facing and he was perfectly entitled to appoint an Accensus. Trawling through Nova Roman law is time consuming and not everyone's cup of tea. As to the claims being true, well there is only one claim currently being tried and it certainly doesn't seem cut and dried at all.

 

Regardless of personality as a Nova Roman citizen he is entitled to a fair trial and for the charge to be shown to be legally sound as well as factually proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Caesar Modiano sal

To be accurate the trial commenced on the 4th of March. Today is only
the 13th. That is 9 days only. It was from the 4th on when the
requirement to join the list was made clear that contact attempts
started. 9 days is not an excessive period to be away for many
reasons.

The legal system in Nova Roma is flawed I agree. If you mean it
is "crap" because you think "Cincinnatus will get away with it", then
I disagree. Firstly we don't know what will happen, but if he is
absolved it will be because the offence he was charged with was not
proven, by fact or law or both. The purpose of a legal system to me
is not to secure convictions, but to test whether the facts and the
law fit the charges laid.

If one falls into the trap of only thinking of the purpose of the law
to prosecute opponents and convict, and anything less is a failure,
then one doesn't describe a legal system but legalised proscription.



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "David Kling (Modianus)"
<tau.athanasios@...> wrote:

>
> He has posted to the list twice since the two petitions. The first

time

> against me claiming the praetores and myself were "impious." He,

was proven

> wrong. And the second time to declare Paulinus his advocatus,

probably at

>

You seem to forget the trial that was from the first of February that Cincinnatus ignored.  Put whatever spin you wish.  I still think Cincinnatus is a coward.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

Poplicola Maiori SPD:

If this were Rome, you wouldn't be a magistrate. But this is not Rome.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Maior Poplicolae omnibusque spd;
> well since Cincinnatus exists but isn't showing up, I'd say
> he's more like a Roman civis who went into exile to avoid a trial.
> How were they treated historically by the Roman courts? Got to ask
> Cordus.
> If you dismiss, then no one will ever show up for a trial. Why
> bother to face the law when you can avoid it? People will figure
> that out quickly.
> bene valete
> Maior
>
>
> > If you were to actually read the archives, you would have realized
> > that some here had recommended dismissing the trial since it could
> not
> > have proceeded. But thank you for the slander! I love it when
> people
> > make up my position for me. It's so much easier that way!
> >
> > Q. Valerius Poplicola
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@> wrote:
> > >
> > > M. Valerius Potitus omnibus S.P.D.
> > >
> > > Salvete, omnes.
> > >
> > > It's odd that the citizens who oppose the Praetor "making up"
> law when
> > > it went against Cincinnatus have no complaints when the
> Praetor "makes
> > > up" law and allows a trial in absentia. I see nothing in the
> written
> > > law that allows a trial in absentia. Since the written law is
> silent
> > > on this matter, how can the Praetor dare to allow it?
> > >
> > > So there appear to be times when making up the law is
> > > acceptable--those times when it favors one's opinions.
> > >
> > > Valete,
> > > Potitus
> > >
> > > Tuta erit vobis Velia.
> > >
> >
>

M. Valerius Potitus Ti. Galerio Paulino SPD.

Salve, Pauline.

Thank you for your reply. Actually, I agree with the trial in
absentia, whatever it should be called. I have been looking forward to
hearing the evidence, and I'm glad to see the trial progressing.

The point of my post was to illustrate the illogical position that
some citizens have. They make a great deal of noise in the Forum when
the Praetor "makes up" jurisprudence on one occasion, but happily
accept his decision on another. (I was unaware that you had already
set a precedent, mea culpa.) They demand that we adhere to the written
law only (in particular, the Constitution), which doesn't say anything
about a trial in absentia. So, it is odd or inconsistent to be so
opposed to one praetorial decision and so willing to accept
another--as long as it agrees with their opinions.

Thank you, Censor, for speaking on behalf of Cincinnatus. I look
forward to your further evidence, as well as that of the Consul.

Vale,
Potitus

Tuta erit vobis Velia

HAVE YOU HEARD: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash
after
years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star
of
the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world.
Desperate, he
went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, 'I'll
give
you 100,000 dinars for it.' 'But I paid a million dinars for it,' the
King
protested. 'Don't you know who I am? I am the king!' Croesus replied,
'When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are.'

__________________________________________________

Q. Valerius Poplicola M. Valerio Potito:

It pains me to see another Valerius making such false accusations. I
have in my reply to Cordus already addressed the issues. For those who
I cannot speak for, and I'm sure there are several out there, perhaps
they just learn to pick and choose their battles?

It's best to withhold assumptions when you are trying to make
arguments from silence.

Cura ut ualeas.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@...> wrote:
>
> M. Valerius Potitus Ti. Galerio Paulino SPD.
>
> Salve, Pauline.
>
> Thank you for your reply. Actually, I agree with the trial in
> absentia, whatever it should be called. I have been looking forward to
> hearing the evidence, and I'm glad to see the trial progressing.
>
> The point of my post was to illustrate the illogical position that
> some citizens have. They make a great deal of noise in the Forum when
> the Praetor "makes up" jurisprudence on one occasion, but happily
> accept his decision on another. (I was unaware that you had already
> set a precedent, mea culpa.) They demand that we adhere to the written
> law only (in particular, the Constitution), which doesn't say anything
> about a trial in absentia. So, it is odd or inconsistent to be so
> opposed to one praetorial decision and so willing to accept
> another--as long as it agrees with their opinions.
>
> Thank you, Censor, for speaking on behalf of Cincinnatus. I look
> forward to your further evidence, as well as that of the Consul.
>
> Vale,
> Potitus
>
> Tuta erit vobis Velia
>

Cn. Iulius Caesar M. Valerio Potito quiritibus sal.

The Praetor made a decision to find the first case proven by
default. There was, I contend, nothing in the the laws that govern
trials in Nova Roma to justify that. Others may think differently I
contend the principle of the right to fair trial, in Nova Roman law,
outweighs the non-existent right, in Nova Roman law, to convict in
absentia.

I, and others, suggested the trial should have been abandoned and a
moritorium placed on future prosecutions until the lex was fixed.
That was not to be and within short order the same situation arose
again. This time the Praetor made a different decision. This one I
of course support because it, in my view, reinforced existing rights.

As to the comment on the Constitution, the Constitution did not
establish the mechanics of prosecutions, so of course you will find
no mention there of trials in absentia.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@...>
wrote:

>
> M. Valerius Potitus Ti. Galerio Paulino SPD.
>
> Salve, Pauline.
>
> Thank you for your reply. Actually, I agree with the trial in
> absentia, whatever it should be called. I have been looking

forward to

>

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HAVE YOU HEARD: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash
after
years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star
of
the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world.
Desperate, he
went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, 'I'll
give
you 100,000 dinars for it.' 'But I paid a million dinars for it,' the
King
protested. 'Don't you know who I am? I am the king!' Croesus replied,
'When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are.'

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Maior Poplicolae sdp;
you seem unable to make an analogy. As Cordus said to me years
ago, Romans were very conservative and also very pragmatic. Women
right before Christianity came, had more rights under Roman law than
they would see until the late 20th Century in the West. So it is no
stretch to make the analogy that women were akin to plebeians and
achieved full citizenship.

Now I'm a 5 year civis in NR and have:
lived in Ireland, moved to the U.S., been to Mexico, had an
operation, performed buddhist austerities on a mountain
incommunicado and yet through all this found 2 minutes to send an
email, saying "I'll be away."

I've known C. Fabius Buteo Modianus as a foe and friend for those 5
years.As a Boni he tried to work with Cincinnatus, as a moderate he
tried to work with Cincinnatus. Modianus has always been sincere and
working like a dog to get the Religio real and working in NR.

As for slander, if I misstated your opinion I apologize. But
slander, or better libel, which is written defamation is not
misrepresenting someone's opinion!
it is more " X is an alcoholic plagiarist" words that ruin
someone's professional reputation.

bene vale in pacem deorum
M. Hortensia Maior Fabiana

>
> If this were Rome, you wouldn't be a magistrate. But this is not

Rome.

>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@> wrote:
> >
> > Maior Poplicolae omnibusque spd;
> > well since Cincinnatus exists but isn't showing up, I'd

say

> > he's more like a Roman civis who went into exile to avoid a

trial.

> > How were they treated historically by the Roman courts? Got to

ask

> > Cordus.
> > If you dismiss, then no one will ever show up for a trial. Why
> > bother to face the law when you can avoid it? People will figure
> > that out quickly.
> > bene valete
> > Maior
> >
> >
> > > If you were to actually read the archives, you would have

realized

> > > that some here had recommended dismissing the trial since it

could

> > not
> > > have proceeded. But thank you for the slander! I love it when
> > people
> > > make up my position for me. It's so much easier that way!
> > >
> > > Q. Valerius Poplicola
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sstevemoore" <astrobear@>

wrote:

> > > >
> > > > M. Valerius Potitus omnibus S.P.D.
> > > >
> > > > Salvete, omnes.
> > > >
> > > > It's odd that the citizens who oppose the Praetor "making

up"

> > law when
> > > > it went against Cincinnatus have no complaints when the
> > Praetor "makes
> > > > up" law and allows a trial in absentia. I see nothing in the
> > written
> > > > law that allows a trial in absentia. Since the written law

is

> > silent
> > > > on this matter, how can the Praetor dare to allow it?
> > > >
> > > > So there appear to be times when making up the law is
> > > > acceptable--those times when it favors one's opinions.
> > > >
> > > > Valete,
> > > > Potitus
> > > >
> > > > Tuta erit vobis Velia.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Quiritibus et omnibus salutem
plurimam dicit: Di vos inculumes custodiant

Hodie est die pristini Eidus Martias; haec dies nefastus publica est:
Equirria; Mamuralia

"Behold, a shield fell, trembling in the light breeze. The sound of
the crowd's shouting reached the stars.
The king first sacrificed a heifer that had never known the yoke,
then raised the gift from the ground, and called it ancile, because
it was cut away all round, and there wasn't a single angle to note.
Then, remembering the empire's fate was involved, he thought of a
very cunning idea. He ordered many shields cut in the same shape, in
order to confuse the eyes of any traitor. Mamurius carried out the
task: whether he was superior in his craft or his character it would
be hard to say. Gracious Numa said to him: 'Ask a reward for your
work, you'll not ask in vain of one known for honesty.' He'd already
given weapons to the Salii, named from their leaping dance, and words
to be sung to a certain tune. Mamurius replied: 'Give me glory as my
prize, and let my name be sounded at the song's end.' So the priests
grant the reward promised for his Ancient work, and now call
out 'Mamurius'." ~ Ovidius Naso, Fasti 3.373-392


The day prior to the Ides of March was dedicated to the memory of
Mamurius. Servius Honorius said that in his honor the Salii beat
skins in the fashion of a smith beating metal into shape (Ad Aeneis
7.188). Minucius Felix likewise mentioned the Salii beating hides
(Octavius 24.3). This ritual would seem to have involved driving out
disease and other ills just before the beginning of the New Year. It
can be compared to rites in villages the world over, where cultures
employ dance and drums to drive away evil spirits.

In the sixth century CE Laurentius Lydus of Apamea wrote De Mensibus
(3.29 and 4.36) in which he said that on the Ides of March a man
dressed in animal skins was driven with long wands, peeled of their
bark, and that the crowd called "Mamurius" after him. However no
mention of such a ritual is given by Ovid in his account of the
Fasti, nor is it mentioned by Servius, Varro, Verrius, Dionysius of
Halicarnassus, nor by Plutarch. It does not make sense that such
authors would have overlooked such an aspect of the ritual if driving
a man from the City were actually part of the day's festivities.
While modern speculations accepted that such a rite existed, it is
easier to understand, and more parallels exist, that drumming was
used rather than some scapegoat.


When he who, with his swift chariot, brings bright day
Has raised his disc six times, and immersed it again,
You will see horse races again on the Campus,
That grassy plain that Tiber's winding waters wash.
But if by chance it's flooded by overflowing waves,
The dusty Caelian Hill will accept the horses.
~ Ovidius Naso, Fasti 3.517-522

Two-horse chariot races were also held on this day in honor of Mars.


"Mars, whether thou reclinest on cloud-capped Haemus, or frost-white
Rhodope holdeth thee, or Athos, severed to give passage to the
Persian fleet, or Pangaeus, gloomy with dark holm-oaks, gird thyself
at my side and de thine own land of Thrace. If victory smile on us,
thy meed shall be an oak stump adorned with spoils."

"Hearing his prayer, Father Mars arose from the snow-topped crag of
Mount Haemus exhorting His swift ministers: "Bellona, bring my
helmet; attend me, Pavor, fasten the wheels upon my war chariot;
Formido, bridle my swift horses in harness. Hastily press forward on
your work. See, (he) makes ready himself for war; Stilicho whose
habit it is to load me with rich trophies and hang upon the oak the
plumed helmets of his enemies. For us together the trumpets ever
sound the call to battle; yoking my chariot I follow wheresoever he
pitches his camp." ~ Claudius Claudianus, In Rufino 1.334-48


Today's thought is from Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 4.49

"Be like the rocky promontory on which the waves continually break.
Stands firm and the fury of the seething water are laid to rest."

Salvete!

 

 

With the Flamen Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur not available
Quntius Fabius Maximus, Pontiff, and Marcus

Martianius favored of Mars will carry out the caerimonia in the name of the Nova Roman

People.

QFM:  My toga being "in the shop" (tailors)  I bathed, doned my Tunica and with
head covered, in my back yard I approach my altar of white marble.

Raising my arms up I begin the praefatio.

(Praefatio)

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae.

Iuppiter Best and Greatest, by offering this incense to you I pray
good prayers, so that you may be willingly propitious to me and the
Senate and People of Nova Roma.

I place myrrh in the focus of the altar.

"Iuno Dea, te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies
volens propitia mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae.

Goddess Iuno, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers,
sothat you may be willingly propitious to me and the Senate and
People of Nova Roma.

I place myrrh in the focus of the altar.

I wash my hands from a brass bowl

(Precatio)

"Mars Pater, te precor uti fortitudine et peritia horum equitum
Equirriae Senatus Populusque Norvorum Romanorum Quiritum iniciantur et
sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novorum Romanorum
Quiritum. Mars Pater, qui currui temporis equos citos suos iungit ut
mensem Martii adduucat, tibi fieri oportet culignam vini dapi, eius
rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto."

Father Mars, I pray you that the Senate and People of the Nova
Romans, the Quirites, may be inspired by the courage and skill of
these horsemen of the Equirria and that you may be propitious to the
Senate and People of the Nova Romans, the Quirites. Father Mars, who
hitches his swift horses to the chariot of time to bring on the month
of March, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given, for the
sake of this thing therefore may you be honored by this feast
offering."

I take the bottle of wine, open it and pour a libation on the altar.  I add a laurel sprig for
Mars.

Again I wash my hands from the brass bowl.

(Redditio)

"Mars Pater, qui in campo suo certamen Equirriae semper prospicit,
macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto.

Father Mars, who always observes from afar the race of the Equirria
on his own field, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may
you be honoured by the humble wine.

I offer Father Mars the laurel sprig and wine on the altar.

"Mars Pater, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto.

Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were
well prayed, for the sake of this be honored by this humble wine.

I pour a second libation on the altar.

"Vesta Dea, custos ignis sacri, macte vino inferio esto."

Goddess Vesta, guardian of the sacred fire, be honoured by this
humble wine.

I pour a third libation on the altar.

"Illicet"
is done

I wash my hands from the brass bowl.

(Piaculum)

I offer a piaculum to Mars Pater if anything in this caerimonia
should offend him :

"Mars Pater, si quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc ture
veniam peto et vitium meum expio."

Father Mars, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing to you,
with this incense I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.

I place myrrh on the altar.

"Mars Pater, si quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc vino
inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio."

Father Mars, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing to you,
with this humble wine I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.

I pour a fourth libation on the altar.

"Factum est!

 

I turn and leave

I have never heard that story before and was ineresting to read but personaly I can see that happening.
Lucius Julius Julianus

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To: Nova-Roma@...
From: kirsteen.falconsfan@...
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:19:38 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Piso

This story was posted on another forum but I've never heard of it. Is it true?

 

"It comes from the story of Piso a Roman govenor of Judea.The Roman soldiers used to go out on patrol in pairs and if one returned without his partner it was asumed he had killed him or something so he was sentenced to death.
One day a soldier came back on his own so Piso sentenced him to death.He orderd a centurio to carry out the execution.When the soldier was about to be executed the soldier thought to be dead returned.All the other troops started cheering and the centurion went to tell Piso.
Piso then sentenced all three of them to death.
The first soldier because he had already been sentenced to death.
The centurion because he had disobeyed the order to execute him .
Lastly the "dead" soldier because he had caused the death of two innocent men.
Piso excused himself with the words .Let justice be done though the heavens should fall."

 

Flavia Lucilla Merula

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Albucius aed. omnibus Aureliaeque s.d.

C. Aurelia Falco Silvana has been granted the winning prize of Ludi
Conditorum Essay Contest, whose matter was "Concordia and politics in
Nova Roma in the current year 2761 a.u.c.". The fact that she has
been the only contributor does not lower her work. On the contrary.

In this essay, Aurelia draws for us, in a style at the same time
sharp and light, a portrait of our organization, Nova Roma.

From the asked question on, she is questioning herself and ourselves
on how "real" is our organization and what is missing in this
reality. And her answer could well be ... roman virtues, stating how
they are as topical for us as they were in ancient Rome.

Congratulations Aurelia, and good reading and thinking to all!


Valete omnes !



P. Memmius Albucius


---------------------------------------------
CONCORDIA AND POLITICAL LIFE IN NOVA ROMA
by C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

Concordia Dea must indeed be wearing a lop-sided grin these days.
There She stands, with Her own priest officiating Her ceremonies in
the year dedicated to Her. Here we sit, during the Ludi Conditorum
organized to celebrate the founding of Nova Roma back in 2751 ab urbe
condita, amidst yet another flood of messages that do little to honor
Concordia or this anniversary year. We seem to do and say things in
our untidy virtual world that most of us would never accept in the
real world. Which brings up another question.

Is Nova Roma a "real" organization? Or is Nova Roma a virtual
fantasy, where some avatars play out political roles from highest to
most modest, while others are content to cross the screen in roles
from innocent neophyte to back-stabbing street thugs?

There are definite signs that Nova Roma is, in fact, such a fantasy.
We have all heard the messages our eyes read. After all, I can fling
about words and behaviors with abandon, while I hide behind the ample
scutum of a fine Roman-style name and a (more or less) secure e-mail
list.
The Main List, our Cloaca Maxima, runneth over at least twice a year
with a flood of invective, insult and name-calling which most would
not tolerate in a "real" social environment. In the fantasy, the Main
List becomes a "forum" where a minority exercise the right of
(constant) uninhibited speech, and imagine other conversations going
on all around them. In the virtual world of the internet, the Main
List is a linear e-mail system where messages must line up single
file, one after the other. It is like being in a crowded room where
only one person can speak at a time, and frustration clearly builds
waiting for a topic to move on. Every year, some find even the
fantasy too much to bear, and their avatars resign from the list.
Following each resignation, other avatars usually express e-tears, at
least some of which seem sincere rather than crocodilian.

Or is Nova Roma a "real" entity, as real as the Arena of Nimes under
my feet when I walked its upper tier of stones? As real as the stones
of Volubilis that sheltered me from the Moroccan sun? There are
definite indications that Nova Roma is in fact as "real" as a hunk of
cheese, a glass of wine, or the service bill from an internet
provider.

At my lowly plebeian level, I have a fistful of bite-`em-with-your-
teeth-and-prove-it Nova Roman coins, all shiny and brassy. I have two
back-issues of Saturninus's Nova Roman calendar, all the way from
Finland, on real paper with photos of real places(and must order a
new one). I've even had a small Romanitas circle in my (small) town.
Internationally, citizens in Romania, Italy, France, the United
Kingdom, Canada, the United States and probably other "real"
countries have met each other, dined together, spent "real" time
getting to know each other. The Magna Mater Project is in contact
with "real" archaeologists on a "real" heritage site.
Real-world laws must be followed in registering the organization as a
non-profit society in the country where it is based. "Real" money is
transferred into Nova Roma's coffers at tax time.

There do seem to be a few things missing in Nova Roma: comprehensive,
publicly-issued financial statements. Annual general meetings (also
public), as are normally required in the operation non-profit
societies in many real-world jurisdictions. The normal reality
checks.

There is an old proverb, "Possession is nine-tenths of the law."
There's a good case to be made that Nova Roma needs to accept its
nine-tenths of reality and act accordingly as an organizational
entity. We as citizens need to act accordingly also. The censors
made the case when I was choosing a name: Nova Roma, I was told, is
not a fantasizing role-play game. It is a real effort by real people
to understand the nature of the Roman world.

If Nova Roma is real, then we shall need some real manners, a real
sense of responsibility, a real effort to build community on a
person-to-person level, and real accountability. If Nova Roma is
real, as it seems it is, then it is time to put down the verbiage-
spewing avatars and pick up some real-world courtesy which all of us
must use in our daily social lives in the rest of the "real" world.

"Wait a minute!" I hear you say, "Courtesy isn't even a Roman
concept!" True. "Courtesy" came out of the medieval European
"courtly" world. But long before that, the Romans had mapped out
qualities that encompassed a courteous life. They honored public
virtues such as Aequitas, Clementia, Concordia, Iustitia, Liberalitas,
Nobilitas, Pax, Pietas, Pudicitia. They strove for private virtues
including Clementia, Dignitas, Gravitas, Honestas, Humanitas, Pietas,
and Prudentia.

But ah! I hear the avatars rattling wordy swords along the web – Rome
was not just some virtuous idyll. Rome was scheming, conniving,
back-stabbing blood-and-guts violence, world-domination incarnate.
We must have all that, too, if we are going to be "authentic"! Well,
yes, Rome had all those elements – and so do we, in our real world of
this present year. Human nature has not changed so very much since
long before Rome was born 2761 years ago. But the shouters-after-
blood forget just one thing: all through time, one other aspect of
human nature has also remained strong.

However deep the wallow of blood, guts, invective and humiliation,
most people have not enjoyed being in that place. The majority have
wished for better things . . . always. And the few great ones have,
from time to time, led the way to something better. Consider Lucius
Cornelius Sulla – contradictory, violent, a monster in many ways. Yet
even he fought to bring Rome back to the Republican path, and in the
end he placed that drive ahead of his personal obsessions. Consider
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, last of the Five Good Emperors, two
centuries later and struggling to lead Rome to a better place . . .
again.

In the world around us, we have injustices and cruelties to rival
anything in Rome. Out of Cambodia and Rwanda, out of Auschwitz and
Abu Ghraib. modern psychologists and military strategists have come to
one conclusion: war can ultimately be reconciled. Humiliation can
not. If you once humiliate a person, they can never forget.
Humiliation breeds true enmity.

So let's not imagine that Rome had cornered the market on rot,
violence, slander and corruption. Let's understand that the world
does not aspire to these qualities – that the world did not aspire to
these qualities even during the original Res Publica. Let us
recognize that the dark bits do not exist because they are ideals to
be copied. The dark bits exist to prove that there are brighter,
better ways.

Else why, in the Gods' names, would Romans have listed private virtues
like Auctoritas, Clementia, Dignitas, Gravitas, Honestas, Humanitas,
Industria, Pietas, Veritas? Why, in the name of all the Deities under
heaven, would they have cared about public virtues like Aequitas,
Concordia, Felicitas, Iustitia, Laetitia, Liberalitas, Nobilitas, Pax,
Pudicitia, Uberitas, and Virtus?

Else why would one of our honored citizens have stepped forward and
been approved as Priest of Concordia? Why would Nova Roma have
endorsed this Year of Concordia? And why should Concordia be the
first topic of these Ludi Conditorum?

I suspect it's because we seek a better way, just as our ancestors
did.


C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

---------------end of Aurelia's essay------------------------------

Albucius aed. omnibus Aureliaeque s.d.

Aurelia Falco Silvana has been declared **Winner** of the Letter
Contest, whose matter was "you are a Roman soldier in Fabius Valens's
marching army, in the eve of 69 AD. You have, on Feb. 15 (Lupercalia)
written in Lugdunum a letter to your mother living in Rome, to give
her news and confirm that you will not be able to be by her side for
the Matronalia".

Here again, the fact that she has been the only contributor does not
lower her work that you will enjoy below.

In this letter, Aurelia is in a roman soldier's chair, writing in his
tent to his mother, sister and future nephew. Aurelia inserts
private, family and military daily life elements which make this
letter very pleasant to read.

You will find below **two versions of Aurelia's letter** : a "raw"
one, and a commented one.

For, besides the literary difficulty itself, there was a historical
and factual difficulty, that Aurelia has pretty well dealt with. In
the commented version, you will thus find our comments, and when
needed, our corrections.

Here is besides what Hon. Aurelia, whose gravitas is as known that
her dedication in our contests, has willed to specify :

"These comments allow me to  improve my own knowledge. 
Like my (involved in Ludi - aed. note) gladiators and aurigae, I need
to learn from every experience.  Every civis, even the newest, should
try some of the literary events because they are wonderful self-
teaching exercises. 

Some of us have had the privilege of taking Classical Studies in
school or university.  Many (like me) have not. 

So the literary competition becomes a kind of "directed study"
project which costs only my time, and leaves a lasting benefit of
understanding the classical world."

Let us all take example on and listen Aurelia Silvana, and remind, as
Baron de Coubertin has said for Olympic Games : "The important is not
winning: it is taking part."

So... prepare your calames (pens) for next games, Quirites !
Good reading and valete omnes !

P. Memmius Albucius
aed. cur.

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(raw version)

LETTER FROM LUGDUNUM
by C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

written in Lugdunum, Gallia in the year 822 auc on the 15th of
February (Lupercalia)

My dear mother, your loving son sends warmest greetings. If you are
well, my mother, then I shall be well also.

I pray the Gods that you are in good health and that our house in Rome
is warm and secure against the weather and against the rumors that fly
like the snowflakes here in Gaul. To my sister also, greetings. As
you guessed in your last letter, I am still far from home. Though I
long to be at your side, I sorrow that only my sister will be with you
for the Matronalia. But the two of you will surely attend for the
sake of the babe she carries.

I am saving to buy a gift for each of you, but I must ask your
patience a while longer. Our salaries have not been paid for the last
two paydays, which means more than six months.
I am afraid my savings have shrunk as I must purchase a few
necessaries for myself.
But let me not wail about myself. I must tell you what I shall send:
two fine embroidered cloaks in the style of the Belgic women. There is
nothing in the world so warm as a Belgic woolen cloak. Even the
roughest, plainest Belgic blanket is a treasure. I learned this when
we were stationed in Germania. Only please wait a little longer and
you shall each have one. Our centurion says they must pay us soon.
We soldiers, I confess, like him very much when he growls out the word
"must."

I shall speak frankly in this letter, dear mother, because I know it
will pass through our General's couriers and none other. I ask you to
be sure you are alone before you continue reading.

There's also the fat bonus each and every soldier was to receive. You
will remember I wrote to you after our Legion helped to crush the
traitor Gaius Iulius Vindex in Gaul?
We waited many months for a reward we earned with our blood. Some men
paid with their lives, including two from our tent. All we received
after we returned to Germania was a handful of air.
Our general finally mustered our Legions one by one, and told us Old
Galba refused to pay up.

We have had few news, and they are always late reaching us. Last
year, one of the men in our tent (he's a Spaniard) received a letter
from home telling how Old Galba left Hispania Terraconensis. We bet
on whether the dotard would actually make it to Rome; my bet was that
he wouldn't.
So I lost some of my savings when I read your last letter to my tent-
mates. It's a good thing our family is modest, and father has been
careful in his political leanings. Another tent-mate's family lost
everything when Old Galba went after the riches Emperor Nero had
spread amongst his cronies.

We really became a united military force this past winter.
Oh, yes, we march together, drill and fight and carouse together, but
we were never really united until all of us, from the greenest
soldier to the General himself, had the same thought in mind and
committed the same sin: every last one of us refused to swear
allegiance to that ancient, doddering creature who dares to call
himself "emperor" as if he were a true Augustus. (I am sorry for
displaying my anger, but I write on some vellum I have cadged, so I
cannot wipe out my words.)

You must wonder that this letter is from Lugdunum. In January, we
marched west out of the frozen snows of Germania.
Moving, even slogging through the snow, was better than sitting
around shivering where we were. It was slow going and after eight
days we had only made about 150 mileswhen this courier rides past us,
all along our ranks heading for the front of the column.
He must have been trailing us, catching up to us. Then word spreads
back down the rank and file: Old Galba's gone and died.
Lynched, rumor has it. Most of us didn't know whether to laugh or to
cry. Good riddance to bad rubbish (did I write that? sorry). And no
hope of ever seeing the fat reward owed to us since we took down C.
Iulius Vindex. The only hope we have of even seeing our back-pay is
to keep marching and trust our General.

None of us soldiers were really supposed to know exactly where we were
going, but the General's cook talked to the slave two tents down, and
so on. We're recruiting new troops to make up for our losses last
year. (It's hard to look at the two empty spaces in our tent where
our comrades used to sleep.) Chilly Lugdunum feels like Massilia
after the ice and snow of Germania, but tomorrow we head further south
for more recruiting.

My candle is burning low, so I will only tell you a little about our
General, and then I sleep. He is Fabius Valens, and if you do not
yet know his name, you soon will. Through the web of cooks and slaves
and grooms we hear that we, common soldiers, shall once again serve
Rome with honor and pride. We have many miles of marching ahead of
us.

For your own sake, because you are my mother and because I am
with the army of General Valens, this is all I can tell you. I trust
I shall see you and my sister before her baby is born.

In sorrow that I cannot be with you for the Matronalia, in joy that I
may soon take your hands in mine, your loving son wishes you health
and the peace that only the Gods can give.

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(commented aedilitas version, comments in double brackets)

LETTER FROM LUGDUNUM
by C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

written in Lugdunum, Gallia in the year 822 auc on the 15th of
February (Lupercalia)

My dear mother, your loving son sends warmest greetings. If you are
well, my mother, then I shall be well also.

I pray the Gods that you are in good health and that our house in Rome
is warm and secure against the weather and against the rumors that fly
like the snowflakes here in Gaul. To my sister also, greetings. As
you guessed in your last letter, I am still far from home. Though I
long to be at your side, I sorrow that only my sister will be with you
for the Matronalia. But the two of you will surely attend for the
sake of the babe she carries.

I am saving to buy a gift for each of you, but I must ask your
patience a while longer. Our salaries have not been paid for the last
two paydays, which means more than six months.

[[See infra.]]

I am afraid my savings have shrunk as I must purchase a few
necessaries for myself. But let me not wail about myself. I must tell
you what I shall send: two fine embroidered cloaks in the style of
the Belgic women. There is nothing in the world so warm as a Belgic
woolen cloak. Even the roughest, plainest Belgic blanket is a
treasure. I learned this when we were stationed in Germania. Only
please wait a little longer and you shall each have one. Our
centurion says they must pay us soon.

[[See infra.]]

We soldiers, I confess, like him very much when he growls out the word
"must."

I shall speak frankly in this letter, dear mother, because I know it
will pass through our General's couriers and none other. I ask you to
be sure you are alone before you continue reading.

There's also the fat bonus each and every soldier was to receive. You
will remember I wrote to you after our Legion helped to crush the
traitor Gaius Iulius Vindex in Gaul?

[[So the writer belongs to one of the 7 following legions : I
Germanica, V Alaudae, XV Primigenia, XVI Gallica (Germania inferior)
or, for Germania superior, IV Macedonica, XXI Rapax, XXII
Primigenia.]]

We waited many months for a reward we earned with our blood. Some men
paid with their lives, including two from our tent. All we received
after we returned to Germania was a handful of air.

[[This is not sure: the legions garrisoned in Germany have normally
received their wage and have even been furthermore a "praeda
gloriaque exercitus", as Tacitus says in Hist. 1, 41,1: the soldiers
have made much booty in June 68.]]

Our general finally mustered our Legions one by one, and told us Old
Galba refused to pay up.

[[Not likely in our op.: the general in chief was, in summer 68 and
when Galba was proclaimed emperor, L. Verginius Rufus, Vindex's
winner in Vesontio (current Besançon, France). Verginius has not only
refused the empire proposed by his own soldiers but also showed his
loyalty to Galba by meeting the successor designed by Galba as head
of Germania inferior armies, Flaccus Hordeonius, and giving him these
armies before going towards Galba and entering Rome with him.
The « general » could not be just Fabius, who was at this time a
simple legate, commanding just one legion.]]

We have had few news, and they are always late reaching us. Last
year, one of the men in our tent (he's a Spaniard) received a letter
from home telling how Old Galba left Hispania Terraconensis. We bet
on whether the dotard would actually make it to Rome; my bet was that
he wouldn't.

[[Two legions of Germany had refused to swear in Galba on Jan 69,
1st.: the IV Macedonica and the XXII Primigenia, both garrisoned in
Mogontiacum (currently Mainz, Germany).
The 15th of Jan., Galba is killed by Othon's supporters, and Othon
declared emperor. Tacitus says that the news on Galba's murder joined
Fabius Valens and his soldiers "in the city of Leuci", so probably –
see below - in current French Toul, on Jan. 28.
The historian adds that the "soldiers felt neither joy nor
fright"(Hist., 1-44,1). So we see that the legions were rather
quickly informed of the recent events in Rome : 13 days for 1250 kms
after the event, so a pretty good average of 100 kms per day. So the
7 legions of Germany not only had been hept informed of Galba's
journey, from July to October 68, but also of all the events occurred
since, probably till February 2nd.]]

So I lost some of my savings when I read your last letter to my tent-
mates. It's a good thing our family is modest, and father has been
careful in his political leanings. Another tent-mate's family lost
everything when Old Galba went after the riches Emperor Nero had
spread amongst his cronies.

We really became a united military force this past winter.

[[The whole Germany's army (the 7 legions) seem to have entered the
war against Vindex, but it was seven months ago.
In the "past" winter, which is in fact the current one for we are in
February 69, the army cannot be but the following one, placed under
Fabius Valens's command by Vitellius : around 40,000 men, composed of
troops from Germania inferior, with the eagle of the V Alaudae (so we
may suppose that this legion was the core of the army), with
auxiliary cohors and cavalry wings (alae) (see Tacitus, Hist. 1,
41,2).
So, Fabius's army was just a part of (around a half of it) the army
who fought Vindex (the 7 Germany legions)]]


Oh, yes, we march together, drill and fight and carouse together, but
we were never really united until all of us, from the greenest
soldier to the General himself, had the same thought in mind and
committed the same sin: every last one of us refused to swear
allegiance to that ancient, doddering creature who dares to call
himself "emperor" as if he were a true Augustus. (I am sorry for
displaying my anger, but I write on some vellum I have cadged, so I
cannot wipe out my words.)

[[So our writer should belong either to the IV Macedonica or to the
XXII Primigenia, both garrisoned in Mogontiacum (currently Mainz,
Germany), which refused the oath. But we are facing here a
difficulty. These two legions stayed in fact with Vitellius, who
followed Fabius Valens a few weeks afterwards. If the writer belongs
to the legions which have refused the oath to Galba on Jan 1st, he
cannot be in Lugdunum with Fabius ; if he is, and this has been our
hypothesis, he cannot belong to any of the rebel Mayence's legions.]]

You must wonder that this letter is from Lugdunum. In January, we
marched west out of the frozen snows of Germania.

[[In fact rather south-west, from current Köln, on Jan. 15. If the
landscape may have been snowy, the army took the Mosel valley, which
is more protected during winter.]]

Moving, even slogging through the snow, was better than sitting
around shivering where we were. It was slow going and after eight
days we had only made about 150 miles

[[After 8 days, the army was probably around Pont-à-Mousson (France),
between Metz and Toul. It has thus made 300 km, so rather 200 roman
miles.]]

when this courier rides past us, all along our ranks heading for the
front of the column.

[[Did the courier come from Vitellius' headquarters (so from its back
and Colonia), or from Rome, and so from the south ? Both solutions
are possible, even if the Rome one is more likely.]]


He must have been trailing us, catching up to us. Then word spreads
back down the rank and file: Old Galba's gone and died.

[[See above : it is possible that the news came to Fabius Valens
before his army reached Tullum (Toul). But it must be during the 23
roman miles before Tullum, on the west bank of Moselle and Meurthe
rivers, because the northern and eastern ones are in *Mediomatrices*
civitas, not in "civitate Leucorum", as specifies Tacitus (Hist,
1,44, 1).
Furthermore, Tacitus (Hist, 1,74,2) tells us that 'legates belonging
to the Senate' (thus senators) had been sent by Othon and joined the
army in Lugdunum, where is currently our writer. It must be around
the 15th Feb., if not this day itself. Our letter's writer has very
probably *seen them*.]]

Lynched, rumor has it. Most of us didn't know whether to laugh or to
cry. Good riddance to bad rubbish (did I write that? sorry). And no
hope of ever seeing the fat reward owed to us since we took down C.
Iulius Vindex. The only hope we have of even seeing our back-pay is
to keep marching and trust our General.

None of us soldiers were really supposed to know exactly where we were
going,

[[In fact, Tacitus let us understand that the soldiers themselves
have rather *claimed for* marching on Rome (Hist, 1, 42, 2).]]

but the General's cook talked to the slave two tents down, and
so on. We're recruiting new troops to make up for our losses last
year. (It's hard to look at the two empty spaces in our tent where
our comrades used to sleep.) Chilly Lugdunum feels like Massilia
after the ice and snow of Germania, but tomorrow we head further south
for more recruiting.

[[Valens's army has received weapons and supplies from the
crossed "civitates" (Eduans, Lugdunum), but apparently no recruits.
Tacitus just mentions the fact that the Legio Italica and the Ala
Tauriana, garrisoned in Lyons, are took away by Valens to reinforce
his army, while he is leaving in Lugdunum the 18th cohors.
After Lugdunum, Fabius's army will march on Vienna, which was
designed as "inimica".]]

My candle is burning low, so I will only tell you a little about our
General, and then I sleep. He is Fabius Valens, and if you do not
yet know his name, you soon will. Through the web of cooks and slaves
and grooms we hear that we, common soldiers, shall once again serve
Rome with honor and pride. We have many miles of marching ahead of
us.

[[(around 750 Roman miles, i.e. 1,100 kms).]]

For your own sake, because you are my mother and because I am
with the army of General Valens, this is all I can tell you. I trust
I shall see you and my sister before her baby is born.

In sorrow that I cannot be with you for the Matronalia, in joy that I
may soon take your hands in mine, your loving son wishes you health
and the peace that only the Gods can give.

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In addition to Tacitus History, you may also read report usefully to
Plutarch's Galba for your further information on these turmoiled
events that followed Nero's death, and when Vespasian finally won
the "year of the four emperors"'s fight.

PMA, aed. cur.

Albucius aed. omnibus Aureliaeque s.d.

C. Aurelia Falco Silvana has been granted the winning prize of this
Dialogue Contest, whose matter was :
"Cassius and Vedius are convoked by Remus and Romulus who ask them to
give them accounts on Nova Roma creation and on the past first 10
years."

The fact that she has been the only contributor does not again lower
her work. On the contrary!

You will see that Aurelia has decided to write down a play scene. As
it was *a dialogue*, we have accepted it.

And we have liked it. Very much!

For Aurelia has composed here a small, funny and serious at the same
time, jewel, which would deserve a living representation.

Written in English, this witty piece sounds universal, which is the
quality of every great writing, even some literary or tv references
may be easier to catch for English/American culture citizens than
others.

Hoping that we have forgotten nothing of this text, have fun reading
this play, Quirites, valete omnes, and tibi gratias multas, Silvana,
for this gift !



P. Memmius Albucius
aed. cur.
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"CARRY ON CONCORDIA"
by C. Aurelia Falco Silvana

CAST (in order of appearance):

CONCORDIA -- a Roman Goddess
CLEANER -- male or female, any age
ROMULUS
REMUS
Flavius VEDIUS Germanicus, Pater Patriae Novae Romae
Marcus CASSIUS Julianus, Pater Patriae Novae Romae

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n.b. : stage directions and informations in double brackets (we
cannot unfortunately write her in Italics!)or just following after
a "," the speaker's name.

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[["Right" and "left" refer to stage right and stage left.
The curtain opens. No actors are apparently on stage. Left, a sofa
and love seat arranged in an L around a coffee table, all at least 10
years old and showing wear. Right, a modern desktop computer, desk
and chair. On the right side wall are many bright posters for various
Ludi. Next to the poster wall, a life-size cardboard stand-up of Cn.
Cornelius Lentulus, Sacerdos Concordiae. A bit to right of center, a
shoulder-high square pedestal; on it, the figure of a tall, stately
woman in Roman dress, with a wine bowl in her left hand, and a modest
cornucopia in her right, very life-like – the Goddess Concordia.
Strewn about the stage: wine bottles, empty glasses, beer bottles,
pizza boxes, crumpled paper, pieces of pizza, a large puddle of wine
on the floor. A piece of pizza is stuck to the lower part of the
woman's dress.]]

CLEANER [[enters from left, pushing a janitorial cart. Reaches
center, sighs, looks around, looks up at Concordia.]]:

What a mess!

[[Hauls bucket and mop off cart, begins mopping puddle of wine,
pauses. Addresses Concordia.]]

This sure wasn't your day, was it? Worse than a lot of them from the
looks of it.

CONCORDIA [[her face shows surprise; she lowers her hands and looks
down at the Cleaner]] : You mean you can actually see me?

CLEANER [[keeps mopping]] : Sure. And know you right well we do, us
working stiffs.

CONCORDIA: Do you mind if I sit for a while? My feet are sooooo
tired. . . I'll keep my feet up out of your way. I won't embarrass
you?

CLEANER: Not at all. You look wiped out.

CONCORDIA [[She sits on the edge of her pedestal, feet dangling,
carefully arranging her robe to cover her legs ]]:

You can hear me too. Why, oh why couldn't the bunch who made this
mess hear me, or see me, or even remember that I exist?

CLEANER: Well, me, I got no power, no rank, no privilege. My kind of
people, we have to listen to your voice. Always accord Concord her
due, pay attention to her, that's how we survive difficult bosses,
job stress, family crises. We GOT to get along with one another.


[[CONCORDIA watches Cleaner replace bucket and mop, then pull out a
trash bag and gather the litter scattered around. She peels the pizza
off her gown, extends it to the Cleaner who bags it. A large red
splot remains on the gown.]]


CLEANER: I hear someone coming, madam!

CONCORDIA [[in a stage whisper]]:

Go! Come visit me again later! I need someone to talk to!

[[She gathers up her gown, clambers back into standing position on
her pedestal and arranges the folds of fabric to hide the splot of
pizza. She freezes into statue mode.
CLEANER hurriedly tosses the last debris into the cart's dustbin,
spots a rag left on the coffee table, snags it and pushes the cart
off stage left. Faint whistling is heard from the wings, stage right –
the theme from the film "Gladiator."
ROMULUS enters stage right, from behind the wall of posters. He
prowls the stage, first peering at the computer screen and toying
with the mouse, then he wanders over to look disdainfully at the worn
sofa and love seat. He is wearing an expensive Armani suit in deep
purple, with a pale yellow silk shirt open at the collar, and plenty
of gold chains around his neck. His dress boots are the finest
Italian leather. He is clean-shaven, with black hair brushing his
collar. Handsome, virile and in his mid-thirties, he wears a
distinctly wolfish look. As he circles back to center stage, he
pauses to gaze up at Concordia.]]

ROMULUS, addressing the statue of Concordia :

I heard they had put you up on a pedestal! Gods above and below, what
are you still doing here? Doesn't look like anybody's paid you so
much as a nod for generations. Too busy fooling with the wolves --I
mean dogs, of war. I suppose. Couldn't go back to nature if we Â… I
mean they . . . wanted to. Nothing left to go back to.
[[He grins. It looks more like a snarl. He brushes at his lapels.]]

Still, I can't complain. This sure beats bloody goatskins!

[[He goes over to the computer station, sits down and becomes
absorbed in trying to hack the password.]]

[[REMUS enters stage left. The same age as Romulus, he is shaved
bald, wearing a loose unbleached cotton shirt and matching baggy
pants with sandals on his sockless feet. He is wearing a double
strand of large dark brown wooden beads around his neck, with a small
satchel slung bandolier-style from his left shoulder. He steps
soundlessly, like a kung-fu fighter, loose-limbed and utterly
relaxed. Yet his gaze is fully alert. He pauses behind the love seat
and scans the entire room carefully. His attention lingers on the
oblivious Romulus for a few moments, then he looks to Concordia and
his gaze softens. He brings his hands together and performs a slow,
reverent Namaste. He moves over to Romulus, coming up behind his
still-oblivious sibling.]]

REMUS [[he does not clear his throat as a warning]] :

So, brother . . .

ROMULUS leaps up, sends the mouse flying, and knocks his knee on the
underside of the desk :

Mehercule! Who the Hades are you! What are you doing here?

REMUS: Getting your mythologies mixed up, are you? I don't suppose
you'd recognize your old den-mate? Brother . . ,

ROMULUS: Can't . . . can't be . . . can't be . . . Remus?? I sent
Remus across the Styx nearly three millennia ago. Bashed his head in,
ripped his throat out, did him IN! One more chance . . . who are you?

REMUS: Remus, brother to a certain Romulus, who went down in history
as the founder of one of the greatest cities the world has ever
known. Oh, you did reduce me to a shade for a while, but I had plenty
of time to collect myself over there. The only way to keep me on the
far side of the Styx was for you and everyone else to remember I was
over there. A little lip service now and then wasn't enough to tie me
down, and I was curious to see what you made of things.

[[ROMULUS thinking hard, turns away from Remus to pick the mouse off
the floor, blocking Remus's view. He wraps the cord around one fist,
then the other. The wolfish look is back on his face. He straightens
up, begins to turn to Remus. Both men are facing away from the statue
on the pedestal.
CONCORDIA moves, just her head, turns and looks down on the two
brothers as they begin to face off. She clears her throat. Loudly.]]

CONCORDIA: WOULD you stop this, Romulus! I asked you to come here,
and I asked Remus to join us. Do me the courtesy of putting aside
your vendetta while you are in my presence! Besides, Remus had to
travel a lot further than you. Don't tell me you're not the least bit
curious?

ROMULUS: OK, I'll bite. [[grins wolfishly]]
I haven't seen you around for ages. How did you stay out of my hair?
and what have you been doing?

REMUS: She hauled me back across the Styx about 300 years later. It
seems the Sicilians built a temple in her honor and paid homage
enough to give her life and voice. We had some discussions, she made
some suggestions. I drifted east, mostly. Heard about cities that
were old before we were born, and thought I might learn something
from them. Eventually, the Legions started moving east and I kind of
blended in and tagged along -- in the medical corps, mostly. Spent
ages in the kingdom of Kitai . . . you might remember, a 10,000-man
legion with slaves and hangers-on was abandoned out there. We rather
paddled in the gene pool . . .

Time passed, and word reached me about a certain Prince to the south,
who was teaching that no amount of rank or power could impose
harmony . . . No amount of glitzy, fancy trappings could bring peace
or happiness . . .

[[ROMULUS flushes bright red. The color is most unbecoming with his
dark purple suit and yellow shirt. He is still gripping the mouse
cord, seeming to forget that it is securely attached to the
computer.]]

REMUS: I thought he might have been talking to her (inclines his head
back toward Concordia) and I went along to see if I could renew my
acquaintance. She –

CONCORDIA, softly: No, I didn't know the man, but I wish I had . . .
Romulus, you're not going to garrotte anyone today, so put that
away . . .[[nods at the mouse. He reluctantly places it back on the
desk.]]
Did you each summon your guests, as I asked?

REMUS: Repeatedly. You said we were meeting them here . . .

CONCORDIA, stirring, loosening up her shoulder muscles and rotating
on the pedestal to face fully forward:
We are. They're late. They should have been here half an hour ago.
Just as well. They weren't officially present for the row the cleaner
just mopped up after.

ROMULUS: Speaking of mopping up . . . my descendants built you a
temple too, you know – right in the Forum Romanum. I made a note [[he
whips out a Blackberry]] – 386 years after I founded [[he looks
pointedly at Remus who doesn't even blink]] the Eternal City. You
might have stuck around and ensured a little Concordia to fortify the
Republic or the Empire . . .

CONCORDIA, raises her left hand, tips her sacrificial wine bowl
upside down; it is empty:
No-one poured a drop of wine to me for longer than I can remember –
except that sweet man over there, starting in January this year
[[nods to the cutout of Lentulus, Sacerdos Concordiae]].
And I was so thirsty after all those centuries that I didn't have the
heart to tell him, I drank the lot the moment he left his altar. You
two [[she does her best to glare at them, but it just isn't in her
nature]] did not set a good example. Fratricide is no way to start
off a nation. Kidnapping and rapine make a lousy model for others to
follow. The fruits of that kind of ambition rot very quickly.
[[She tips the cornucopia upside down. A lone peach-pit tumbles
out.]]
From him. [[She looks back at the cutout of Lentulus, sighs.]]
It's been a long time. I was hungry. I ate it.

REMUS: But when you called me, you sounded so hopeful. You said there
was a new Res Publica, with dreams of uniting people from around the
whole world in a common purpose. You said there was talk of Pax
Deorum, and a new non-material Temple of Concordia . . .

CONCORDIA: Immaterial is closer to the truth, I fear. You should have
seen the row that went on just before you both got here. They ignored
me completely. They ran out of words and other things to throw, so
they've moved the scrap into what's-her-name's space . . . sounds
like Cybele but . . . different . . .

ROMULUS: You mean "cyber" space? [[snaps shut his Blackberry and
pockets it]]. Hsst. Somebody's coming.

CONCORDIA, lowering her voice and speaking quickly:
You two have got to find out what's going on. I am not some
amphitheatrical referee. I am a Goddess. A very tired Goddess, but a
Goddess nevertheless. I can accept reverence, I can accept honor, I
can accept sacrifice. I can inspire, but I cannot coerce. That's
Mars' department, and he needs a vacation. The strain is getting to
him. He wants time off for this, his very own month. Venus and Eros
missed him very much last month.

REMUS, puts his finger to his lips: SHHH!

[[CONCORDIA freezes into statue mode. ROMULUS twitches the hem of her
dress to hide the pizza splot. ROMULUS and REMUS stand together at
the base of the statue's pedestal, facing stage left.
Flavius VEDIUS Germanicus enters stage left from behind the loveseat.
He is carefully togate, trailing a chain of tied-up scrolls which is
attached to his left ankle. He moves with as much dignity as possible
under the circumstances, rubs his right hand across his eyes and
drags his chain of scrolls out to stage front and centre. He seems
unaware of Concordia or the brothers.]]

ROMULUS: Who's he?

REMUS: I think he's the guest She told me to summon. One of the
founders of this new Res Publica that gave all the Gods so much hope
for better times ahead.

ROMULUS: How many centuries ago was that?

REMUS: Centuries nothing. It was only 10 years ago. I'm guessing this
is Vedius, from the amount of paper he's trailing. He spent a lot of
time laying the bureaucratic foundation of this Nova Roma – kind of
an on-and-off relationship. But She says he was really dedicated, had
a strong sense of purpose. This man seems younger than he should
be . . .

ROMULUS, whips out his Blackberry, types quickly:
There's lots of stuff in cyberspace about this Nova Roma. Not so much
about him . . . let's ask.

REMUS, steps behind Vedius, over the chain of scrolls and around to
his side stage left :
Salve, Amice. Might you be Flavius Vedius Germanicus?

VEDIUS, looks up: I might be. I might not be.

ROMULUS: We need to know what's going on with this Nova Roma. We have
a . . . vested interest, you might say.

VEDIUS: You might, hmm? and who might you be?

ROMULUS: I founded .. . [[he catches Remus's eye]] . . . once long
ago, my brother and I had the idea for a city . . .

REMUS: He's Romulus, I'm Remus. We got off to a bad start . . .

VEDIUS, his face brightens: Oh ye Gods and Goddesses . . . the true
founding spirit of Rome! [[he looks from Romulus to Remus and back]]
Make that plural . . . spirits. But what on earth are you doing here?

ROMULUS: We never left, not really. Well, he left for a while [[nods
at Remus]] but he came back soon enough. We have an assignment. Need
to find out what you're doing these days . . .

VEDIUS: Hate to disappoint you lads . . . but I can't really answer
that. I'm not really here, you see .. . er . . . don't see. Take my
hand, won't you? [[Vedius extends his right hand to Romulus, then
Remus. Each tries to grasp the hand, but fails to make contact. Both
look puzzled.]]

VEDIUS: You see, I'm just the Spirit of Vedius Past. The scrolls are
the paper trail that goes back to the beginning of Nova Roma, and I
am strongly attached to that beginning . . . pun intended. [[Vedius
grins, a little lop-sidedly.]]
And always, I carry my original vision of Roma Resurgens, carefully
wrapped and close to me. [[He reaches inside the sinus of his toga,
and holds up a leather-wrapped packet.]]

VEDIUS: Me, Vedius Past, I've been Consul, Censor, Proconsul,
Dictator, Lictor, Consul again. We even set up a Collegium Pontificum
in our first year. Being Dictator gave me a deep sense of self-worth,
real Dignitas and Auctoritas that lasted longer than the Imperium I
was given. Did you know I actually wrote a constitution for Nova Roma
while I was Dictator? Talk about work! I'm tired . . . I really need
to sit down. Without Vedius Present, I'm not really here, you see.
Which makes it really hard to get around.

REMUS guides VEDIUS to the couch, where he sits relieved and reels in
his train of scrolls, piling them on the coffee table. He leans back
and closes his eyes.

REMUS, looks up and to stage right. He cocks an ear in that
direction.: I think your guest has arrived, brother.

[[Marcus CASSIUS Julianus enters stage right, from behind the
posters. He is wearing a conservative blue business suit, and
carrying a slim briefcase. He is searching for something in a pocket
when he passes the pedestal of Concordia's statue, and is not aware
that she is present.]]

ROMULUS, glances at Remus: uh . . . Remus, yon Cassius hath a keen
and rangy look, methinks. No toga. Odd.
[[going to meet CASSIUS]]: An honor sir, to find a fellow founder!

CASSIUS: What on earth are you talking about? And who are you,
anyway? I have work to do. Why am I here?

ROMULUS: Not quite the reaction I expected, but I'll try that again.
Glad you got my e-mail.
[[He snaps shut his Blackberry and pockets it.]] Thanks so much for
coming all this way on short notice. My name is Romulus, and this is
my brother Remus. You'll notice that we go by just one name. You
might recognize our names . . . ?? Ah, I see you do. We have this
assignment, you see . . .

CASSIUS: What assignment? What are you talking about? I haven't got
all yesterday. Or today. Speak sense, man.

ROMULUS: Are you or are you not one of the founding Consuls of an
organization called Nova Roma? Are you or are you not Marcus Cassius
Julianus?

CASSIUS: You sound like some sort of lawyer. I think you need to talk
to someone else.

REMUS, intervenes: My apologies for my brother, sir. Once he gets
his . . . um . . . teeth into something, he tends to be a little
savage . . . pun intended. May I introduce myself a little more
politely? [[extends his hand to CASSIUS]].

CASSIUS, looks at Remus's hand: This won't work, you know.

REMUS: Why ever not?

CASSIUS, extends his hand: Because I'm not really here. Try me.

REMUS attempts to shake Cassius's hand but fails to make contact.

ROMULUS: Not another one! [[repeats Remus's gesture, and likewise
fails to make contact.]]
You look older than the photo in the Album Civium..

CASSIUS: That's because I'm the Spirit of Cassius Future. Without
Cassius Present . . .

REMUS: Yes, we know . . . it's hard to get around. Ask him, brother.

ROMULUS: It's about the new Res Publica, this Nova Roma. We've been
told by someone um . . . higher up . . . that you helped to found the
organization. And since we take an interest in once and future things
[[he dusts his Armani lapels]] we wonder if you can tell us about the
time between the past [[he nods to where Vedius sits dozing
peacefully]] and the future.

CASSIUS: It was our best-laid plan, but it gang oft aglay. Which is
to say, the light of our lawmaking got refracted through so many
prismatic minds that it took on all kinds of colors we never
intended. We started out with one clear light, and found ourselves in
a kaleidoscope getting turned around and around. Myself, I got a
little nauseous from all the tumbling about. Others, it seemed,
enjoyed the special effects. I have moved on. I no longer suffer from
motion sickness. Anything else?

ROMULUS: What's in the briefcase?

CASSIUS: The classical world. Amazing what nanotechnology can do when
I come from.

ROMULUS: You mean it's back from the future . . . in that case?

CASSIUS: In that case, in this case, in any case the classical world
will survive. Now, I really must go. Be seeing you!
[[exits stage right]].

ROMULUS, tapping at his Blackberry again: Brother, do you know who
that really was? That was Number Five!!! [[[see footnote]]]

VEDIUS, awakens: Five? Five? No, the number was six. There were six
Pontifices when we established the Collegium . . . where am I?

REMUS: Still in the present. I suppose you need to be getting back.
Anything we can do to help?

VEDIUS: Just help me lay this paper trail, so I don't get lost along
the way.

[[REMUS helps VEDIUS to rise, while ROMULUS lays the paper trail
stage left. They progress solemnly to center stage where VEDIUS looks
up, bows to CONCORDIA, then leaves the brothers behind, exits stage
left. When the last scroll has rustled out of sight, CONCORDIA
stirs.]]

CONCORDIA: So the original concept of Nova Roma is safe in protective
custody. And the Classical world lives on in the future. All we have
to do now, is get on with building the present. Well done, you lot.
You know, you are needed . . . both of you. You belong in the
present. Can you give me a couple of hands? [[She sets the
sacrificial bowl and cornucopia reverently to one side on the
pedestal.]] It's been a long, hard couple of months. I'd like to just
sit and relax among friends for a few minutes. Help me off this
pedestal, will you? I promise I'll let you put me back up here later.
I have to be ready for His next visit. [[She nods toward the figure
of Lentulus Sacerdos Concordiae.]] He gives me strength to carry on.

[[ROMULUS and REMUS assist her down from the pedestal. She dusts off
Romulus's Armani lapels, straightens Remus's satchel.]]

CONCORDIA, sighs, looks at them fondly: Still Roman after all these
years! And when I look back . . . You had such a difficult early
life. . . Do you think . . Could we start again, please?

[[ROMULUS and REMUS exchange looks, appraising each other. They
hesitate, then both extend their hands at the same moment and clasp
forearms.]]

CONCORDIA, smiles: Now where's that cleaner? A little rough around
the edges, like the two of you. Practical. Both feet on the ground,
unlike me. You'll get along well together. I think we've got some
work ahead of us . . .

--------------------------CURTAIN---------------------------------


**Aurelia's FOOTNOTE**:

CASSIUS's citizen number is, in fact, number 5. His exit remark, "Be
seeing you!" is a very ordinary phrase that became famous in the
British television series "The Prisoner" in the 1960's. The lead
character in that series was "Number Six".

I have made other references in ordinary phrases that
became "classics" -- Concordia has a couple. They are easier to catch
than Cassius's.

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Senate Voting Results:

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
tallied as follows.

Formal debate ended on February 22 2761 at 17:00 Roman time. Voting
began at 07.30 hrs CET on Monday 25 Febr. 2761 and ended at 16.00 hrs
CET on Weds. 27 Febr. 2761.

The following 24 Senators cast votes in time. They are referred to
below by their initials, in the order in which they cast their votes:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus
[QFM] Quintus Fabius Maximus
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis
[KFBM] Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus
[CFD] Caius Flavius Diocletianus
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius
[CCS] Caius Curius Saturninus
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica
[FGA] Flavius Galerius Aurelianus
[KFBQ] Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus

The following 10 Senators did not cast a vote (their absence was not
announced or justified):

[MCJ] Marcus Cassius Iulianus
[GEC] Gaius Equitius Cato
[PC] Patricia Cassia
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus
[MBA] Marcus Bianchius Antonius
[ATMC] Ap. Tullius Marcellus Cato
[ISM] Iulilla Sempronia Magna
[LECA] Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus

[AMA] Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia - absence justified.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas - announced his intention to abstain
from the voting.

The necessary majority for a Senatus consultum was therefore 13 votes
in favor. "UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO"
is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open abstention.

The Senate was called to vote on the following agenda:

Item I.
The Senate can decree irregular holidays, feriae imperativae.

With the 10th Nova Roma anniverssary the Senate of Nova Roma proclaim
the Kalendas Martiae MMDCCLXI a.U.c ( 1st of March 2761 a.U.c) as
Nova Roma holiday:Concordialia.
UTI ROGAS 16.
ABSTINEO 3.
ANTIQUO 5.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS:Uti Rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS.Good idea!
GEM:Uti Rogas. We need it.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:ANTIQUO. As much as we need this I have to vote no given the
current state of affairs in Nova Roma. It would be hypocritical to do
this knowing that Concordia , at this moment, is not quite within the
reach of the republic. The Consuls should bring this back when the
chance of actual Concordia is closer to reality.
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Antiquo. What Concordia are you talking about? Two of Nova
Roma's oldest citizens are no longer among us because of
this "Concordia." I believe while the sentiment was well meaning,
the execution left much to be desired.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:ABSTAIN.I must abstain from this item considering the definite
lack of concordia shown in NR during recent months. The halls of the
curia rings with the echoes of shouts and accusations of wrongdoing
and insults of character. Some people have been hurt because of
obvious hurt done to the accuser previously, and there is, I find,
little Concordia for the respect of the beliefs of those whose ideas
differ from their neghbors, and the efforts of those who have labored
for Nova Roma in the past. The Roman Virtues have not been very well
utilized in this period, and the views of those who have the Imperium
to soften the blows have hardened their hearts to what is going on.
While this is certainly their right to do, I see no cause for a
celebration in Concordia until we can settle our dfferences without
revenge, insult, spitefulness, and forgetfulness of our sworn duties
and Oaths.
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Antiquo. I defenitely think holidays should be only those coming
from the ancient days.
CFD:Antiquo. I agree much to what was said in this august body by
Senators M. M. Audens and Q. Fab. Maximus. Before we celebrate a
Concordalia holiday we should settle our recent differences, to show
the people that Concordia is not only a word.
PMA:UTI ROGAS, as a special mark of support to Consul Iulius good
will.
Kal. Martis are still Matronalia, and I feel uncomfortable adding a
feria to a well established (by our Ancients) one. But it is 10th
birthday, and probably we face again such a question just for the
20th birthday. Asking for Concordia's support and organizing a
special ritual for Her on these special 10th birthday Kal. Martis may
be thus seen as a propitatio action, which would help smoothing the
tensions lived by the republic this last month.
Our Senate should have been more careful, specially last year, asking
for the organization, and giving its active support for it, of decent
public events for Nova Roma 10 th birthday. Nemo auditur turpitudinem
allegans, and it is Cos. Iulius's honor to propose this propitiatio
Day, despite the interrogations that this proposal may face.
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM: Uti rogas. If we honour Dea Concordia with this feria she will
be propitious to the res publica.
MMPH: Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas. Sed si rixae quas in foro praecipuo nuper vidimus
concordia sunt, equidem discordiam videre nolim.
FGA:Antiquo. For many of the same reasons spoken of by Tb. Galerius
Paulinus.
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.I hope that if we pray together Concordia will be
strengthen..
PMS:Abstain
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Abstain.I really wanted to vote for this item, we need Concord
and 10 years is truly a milestone. Recently I've been thinking a lot
about the events of 10 years ago but recent events lead me to believe
we (or at least our senior magistrates) are not as interested in
Concord as they should be.These events are not meant to help our
Republic– anything but. I won't vote against the item but cannot
support it in our current climate, which is only laying the seeds for
yet more discord.
---------------------------

Item II.
Appointment of governors.


1a. Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia as legata pro praetore of provincia
America Austroccidentalis.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti rogas.
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti Rogas.


1b. Flavius Galerius Aurelianus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
America Austrorientalis.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti Rogas.


1c. Julilla Sempronia Magna as legata pro praetore of provincia
America Boreoccidentalis.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas. I present my thanks for her continued dedication.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas. I present my thanks for her continued dedication.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas. I present my thanks for her continued dedication.


1d. Gaia Sempronia Graccha Volentia as legata pro praetore of
provincia America Medioccidentalis Superior.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ABSTiNEO.I don't know her
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1e. Decimus Cassius Lupus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Argentina.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas. Success in organizing Argentina.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas. Success in organizing Argentina.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS. I wish him the best in organizing the provincia.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas, etsi eum nescio
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Abstain
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1f. Gaia Iulia Felix as legata pro praetore of provincia Asia
Citerior.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ABSTINEO.I don't know her
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas A difficult assignment.
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas, etsi eum nescio
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1g. Marcus Lucretius Agricola as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Asia Ulterior.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Abstineo
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1h. Marcus Flavius Aurelius as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Australia.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas, etsi eum nescio.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1i. Titus Arminius Genialis as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Brasilia.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ABSTINEO.I don't know him
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1j. Aulus Apollonius Cordus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Britannia.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas Wonderful to see this item.
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas. Nos omnes peritias Cordi novimus.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1k. Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as legatus pro praetore of provincia Canada
Occidentalis.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas. Special thanks to Caesar, a true Roman.


1l. Lucius Aurelius Severus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Canada Orientalis.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas, etsi eum non bene novi.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1m. Titus Iulius Sabinus as consul of provincia Dacia.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Abstain.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS. Sabinus has been doing a great work, not only for his
provincia, but for the Res publica.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti Rogas. Seldom I found such a dedicated person.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti Rogas. Seldom I found such a dedicated person.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti Rogas. He does so much for the res publica.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1n. Publius Memmius Albucius as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Gallia.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS. This is another case of an excellent performance by a
devoted cives.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1o. Marcus Curiatius Complutensis as praetor of provincia Hispania.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS. I not only appreciate his magnificent work in
Hispania, but I want to reiterate him my solidarity and support as
his colleague and friend.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:ABSTINEO.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1p. Franciscus Apulus Caesar as praefectus of Italia.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ABSTINEO
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas A fine gentleman whom I had the pleasure of meeting in
person.
MIP:Uti rogas. He's been leading Italia so fine and definitely the
best Praefectus we could ask.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1q. Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus as proconsul of provincia Lacus
Magni.
UTI ROGAS 22
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 1
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Antiquo.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Abstineo.
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1r. Tiberius Galerius Paulinus as proconsul of provincia
Mediatlantica.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1s. Marcus Iulius Severus as praetor of provincia Mexico.
UTI ROGAS 23
ABSTINEO 1
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:ABSTINEO.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1t. Annia Minucia Marcella as legata pro praetore of provincia Nova
Britannia.
UTI ROGAS 22
ABSTINEO 2
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ABSTINEO.I don't know her
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES. Governor Marcella has been very busy in Nova Britannia since
her take over of the Provincia last year. The Website and Weblist
have both blossomed since her approval as Governor, and for the first
time in a couple of years an Annual Meeting is planned, and
activities are being reoported and attended in the province. She is
doing a good job!!!!
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:abstineo. Illa strenua quae multa bona provinciae confecit, sed
interdum in indicibus non modo provinciali sed etiam in foro
praecipuo se acerrime gessit.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas. Special thanks to the governor of my province, who
has done an impressive job so far


1u. Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Panonnia.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas I have the pleasure of knowing his excellent work.
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


1v. Marcus Octavius Corvus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Sarmatia.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas. I wish succes to Corvus in his activity.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas. I wish succes to Corvus in his activity.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS. I also wish success to my friend Corvus in the hard
work he has started in his provincia.
QFM:Uti rogas. We could use some horse archers.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas, etsi eum non novi.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas. I wish success to Corvus in his activity.


1x. Caius Curius Saturninus as legatus pro praetore of provincia
Thule.
UTI ROGAS 24
ABSTINEO 0
ANTIQUO 0
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas.


Note: Legatus pro praetore of provincia Germania, T. Flavius Aquila,
was appointed in December last year.

-----------------------------------------------------

Item III.
Special thanks to Senator Marcus Minucius Audens.

The Senate extends its special thanks to Senator Marcus Minucius
Audens for his many years of promoting roman virtues and roman way
inside and outside Nova Roma, assisting new citizens and of service
as Senior Editor of Nova Roma official publications.
UTI ROGAS 23.
ABSTINEO 1.
ANTIQUO 0.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas. Marcus Minucius done an outstanding job for Nova Roma
and I wish him success in the future activities.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas. I only hope that Senator Audens doesn't think this is
some sort of "ave atque vale" award. He still has much to contribute
to Nova Roma, and I look forward to his active participation in our
Republic for years to come.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS. Senator Audens is an example for all Nova Romans.
QFM:Uti rogas. As always my former Co-Consul Marcus Minucius has
carried out his duties quietly and always does the job for Nova Roma.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:ABSTAIN
MLA:Uti rogas I have had the pleasure of working with him and I hope
to continue to do so for many years.
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS, ut Sen. Marinus dixit.
CCS: Uti rogas. A brave Roman.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas, et libentissime.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.It is a pleasure vote yes to the thanks to such a well
deserved Senator!
PMS:UTI ROGAS!
TOPA:UTI ROGAS!
DIPI:Uti rogas. Marcus Minucius is a Roman among Romans, and has done
so much for this organization. He does honor to our province and I am
proud to know him. He is impressive at any public event and keeps
crowds enthralled–he represents us well.
---------------------------------------------------

Item IV.
Appointments of interpreters.

3a. According lex Cornelia de linguis publicis, creation of the
office of Romanian interpreter and appointment of T. Iulius Sabinus
as it first interpreter.
UTI ROGAS 23.
ABSTINEO 1.
ANTIQUO 0.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Abstain.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti Rogas
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS to both, with two considerations : the more we spread
Novaroman activity, the best it is. At the same time, we cannot
forget the fact the Decuria Interpretatum does not work, that our web
site pages need to reevaluate the relation MA-Decuria-Governors: the
Senate must cope with this problem.
CCS:Uti Rogas
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas


3b. According lex Cornelia de linguis publicis, creation of the
office of Russian interpreter and appointment of Marcus Octavius
Corvus as it first interpreter.
UTI ROGAS 23.
ABSTINEO 1.
ANTIQUO 0.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Abstineo
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS to both, with two considerations : the more we spread
Novaroman activity, the best it is. At the same time, we cannot
forget the fact the Decuria Interpretatum does not work, that our web
site pages need to reevaluate the relation MA-Decuria-Governors: the
Senate must cope with this problem.
CCS:Uti Rogas
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas.
DIPI:Uti rogas
----------------------------------------------------

Item V.
Creation of the Nova Roma Senate Committee on External Relations.

According to the Senatus Consultum on permanent standing committees
points I a & c, the Nova Roma Senate Committee on External Relations
is created.
The Nova Roma Senate Committee on External Relations will make
recommendation on any and all aspects in connection with Nova Roma
relations including but not limited to other organizations or groups
with roman related interest.
All rules established in the Senatus Consultum on permanent standing
committees are valable for this Nova Roma Senate Committee on
External Relations.
UTI ROGAS 19.
ABSTINEO 4.
ANTIQUO 1.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas. This committee is important for the Nova Roma future.
FAC: ABSTINEO. I would like to obtain further details about the job
of this Committee. I think it should be strongly linked with a staff
which would manage the communication and marketing of this
organization. Without a communication plan, the committee is unuseful.
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Abstineo.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti rogas.
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Antiquo.
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Abstineo.
DIPI:Abstain
----------------------------------------------------

Item VI.
Number of members in Senate committees.

According to Senatus Consultum on permanent standing committees
point II.e :
" Committees shall consist of an odd number of senators, with no
fewer than three and no more than seven senators in any given
committee. Consuls and Praetors shall not count toward the
membership numbers of the committee unless they have been appointed
as permanent members of that committee in a previous year."
and II.d :
"d. Membership on each committee shall be by consular appointment,
with no consulship appointing any more than three members to any
given committee."

This year consuls can nominate one member more in that committes
where is necessary to complete the odd number of members.
Senators have the right to serve on up to three committies.
UTI ROGAS 23.
ABSTINEO 0.
ANTIQUO 1.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: VTI ROGAS
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Uti rogas
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS
CCS:Uti Rogas
ECF:Uti rogas.
MHM:Uti rogas.
MMPH:Adsentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Uti rogas
KFBQ:UTI ROGAS.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas. This could have been an amendment to the original
instead of an exception this year.
DIPI:Antiquo.
-----------------------------------------------------------

Item VII.

The Senatus Consultum on scholarships fund is amended as follow:

"The Nova Roma Scholarship Fund shall be invested as the Senate
shall direct, with the goal of obtaining sufficient growth through
earned interest to provide at least one annual grant to a deserving
citizen of Nova Roma."

to:

"The Nova Roma Scholarship Fund shall be invested as the Senate
shall direct, with the goal of obtaining sufficient growth through
earned interest to provide at least one annual grant to a deserving
applicant citizen or non-citizen of Nova Roma."
UTI ROGAS 17.
ABSTINEO 0.
ANTIQUO 7.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ANTIQVO. We have many young students in all the world which
could be
interested in classical studies and could receive the raised money.
Why we would give this money to other persons? The goal of the fund
is the cultural growth of the organization, how we could support it
in the proposed way?
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Antiquo. As I have said before, I am not convinced that this
program meets the goals set out long ago by e.g. Senatrix P. Cassia,
that is operates with sufficient transparency, that the operation
meets minimum standards recognized in the academic community or that
it is the best way to promote our academic mission.
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:UTI ROGAS : this is one of the good means to help Nova Roma be
more recognized and work with serious and working specialized actors.
CCS:Antiquo. I think the scholarship thing should be planned
altogether different way.
ECF:Antiquo.
MHM: Antiquo, there may be a better plan that would benefit all
assidui
MMPH:Assentior uti rogas
ATS:uti rogas.
FGA:Antiquo.
KFBQ:ANTIQUO. I would rather see a gift to a university or the JSTOR
also presnts a
interesting possiblity. Let the be re-worked and presented again.
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Uti rogas. I agree that this is sub-optimal, but I still
consider it better than the current phrasing.
DIPI:Uti rogas. This is a productive use of our money and time– the
more people we help the better, as long as we can afford it.
-----------------------------------------------------

Item VIII.

Taking in consideration the Senate scholarship committee
recommendations, grant will be awarded by the Senate of Nova Roma in
April a.U.c 2761 (2008 CE) and the help brought by the Senate for
Nova Roma cannot be more than 500 USD for each file accepted by the
Senate scholarship committee.
UTI ROGAS 14.
ABSTINEO 1.
ANTIQUO 9.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Uti rogas.
FAC: ANTIQVO. 500 US $ are not ever enough for a scholarship.
GEM:Uti rogas.
QSP:Uti Rogas.
TGP:VTI ROGAS
MIS:VTI ROGAS.
QFM:Uti rogas.
MCC:VTI ROGAS.
KFBM:Uti Rogas
MMA:YES
MLA:Antiquo for reasons stated above
MIP:Uti rogas.
CFD:Uti Rogas
PMA:ABSTINEO : Nova Roma is not necessarily to cover the whole
expense of the work that the Republic is going to support. It may be
just a part. The key point is to care that this part be not so low
level that Novaroman grant be seen as insignificant, which would be
bad for Nova Roma reputation.
My abstention is only on the April schedule : for better results,
every presiding magistrate should mind not preventing the Senate
organizing its work at best and vote in Plenary when the grant files
are ready. Here, specially because there is no emergency in this
file, April seems to me a too close deadline, specially 10th birthday
month of March: it should have been better proposed a more
comfortable deadline.
CCS: Antiquo. I strongly oppose this.
ECF:Antiquo.
MHM: Antiquo. For the reasons above.
MMPH:Assentior uti rogas
ATS:antiquo; nolim tales angustias imponi.
FGA:Antiquo.
KFBQ:If a vote of ANTIQUO to Item VII, then I vote ANTIQUO to this
item
PMS:Uti Rogas
TOPA:Antiquo. I see no reason to act with undue haste and 500 USD is
not much money for a student today. I agree with others that this
should be awarded in cooperation with a university.
DIPI:Uti rogas
---------------------------------------------------

Resolution of the Board of Directors of Nova Roma, Inc.

Resolved: Authorisation for events.

For a good collaboration with institutions, universities, museums,
other organizations or groups with roman related interest, but not
limited to these, and, in order to organize an event or to
participate to one, a nova roman citizen, in his name or in a group
of nova roman citizens name, can apply sending to the consuls a
petition to obtain an authorization to support Nova Roma as a non-
profit association to that event.
Petition must include:
- a description of the event and the dates when the event is
organized.
- the purpose of the event.
- the nova roman participants names and how the event will
contribute to Nova Roma cultural development.
Consuls can approve that authorization after a preliminary
consultation with censors about these minimal requirements about
applicant:
- if the applicant is nova roman citizen from one year and is
assidui.
- the applicant has experience in one of Nova Roma office including
apparitorii.
- the applicant proved a good moral conduit during the time.
The authorization has a limited validity from one month to three
months depending by each specific case.
The authorization is valid only for the event described in petition
and is approved in concordance with the event mentioned purposes.

Yes - 19; Abst - 3; No - 2.
Item passed.

Comments:
TIS: Yes.
FAC:ABSTINEO. I don't understand the goal of this resolution.
GEM:Yes.
QSP:Yes.
TGP:Yes.
MIS:Yes
QFM:Yes.
MCC:Yes.
KFBM:Yes.
MMA:Yes.
MLA:Yes.
MIP:Yes.
CFD:Yes.
PMA:On the NR Inc. board proposed item, I consider that we must
clearly formally identify our meetings as a Senate (NR republic) and
as NR Inc. board. Even if I think that the consular proposal is
interesting, I will only cast vote on NR Inc. files in the frame of
duly convened NR Inc. Board sessions.
CCS: Yes.
ECF: Yes.
MHM:Yes
MMPH:Assentior uti rogas
ATS:Yes.
FGA:Antiquo. This is a fine bit of foolishness designed to squash
initiative at the provincial level and show that the Senate doesn't
know when to keep their teeth together. If a provincial gubenator
wants to authorize an event then it should be his call along with
the agreement of the provincial curia. The central administration
of Nova Roma and the Senate has such a wonderful record of fostering
events and conventions that it wants to be allowed to give
permission for something that it has never successfully organized.
Ercule! Plautus could write wonderful new plays about Nova Roma.
KFBQ:YES
PMS:Yes
TOPA: - (abst)
DIPI:No. This seems to make it more difficult for citizens to set up
events. We shouldn't be putting barriers in their way.

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Quiritibus et omnibus salutem
plurimam dicit: Di vos servent cum vester.

Hodie est Idus Martiae; haec dies nefastus piaculum est: Feriae Iovi;
feriae Annae Perennae Via Flaminia ad lapidem primum.

"On the Ides the happy feast of Anna Perenna is held, not far from
your banks, far flowing river, Tiber. The plebeians stream out of the
City, scattered onto the verdant grass, there to drink, and every man
reclines with his girl. Some endure the open sky beneath Jupiter, a
few pitch tents, and some make shelters of fronds and boughs, while
others set reeds up, as stakes on which to hang their outspread
robes. But they grow warmed with sun and wine, and they pray for as
many years as the number of cups of wine they drink." ~ P. Ovidius
Naso, Fasti 3.523-532

During the Regal Period the Terra Regis was that the tract of land
outside Rome that lay beside the River Tiber. The people jointly
worked the king's land (Servius Honorius, Ad Aeneis 2.272). But with
the expulsion of Tarquinius Superbus, the king's land became ager
publici and was renamed Campus Martius. The celebration of the
plebeian may go back to such a time as those days on which they
jointly worked the kings land would have been festive. There is also
a story connected to this celebration. When the plebeians seceded
from the City to the Sacred Mountain in 494 BCE they soon ran short
of food. Anna of Bovilla, an old and poor widow baked bread each day
and brought it to the plebeians. She was then related to the annual
circuit of the moon, the perennial moon, as Anna Perenna. She came
to represent the flow of years and was celebrated on the first full
moon of the New Year; the Ides of March.

Still another story, told by Ovid, is that Mars wished to marry
Minerva and went to Anna for help. She told him that she would
arrange everything, so Mars returned to his home and prepared the
nuptial couch. A veiled bride duly arrived, but when Mars went to
kiss His bride, unveiled, she was revealed as old Anna. The other
Gods laughed as once more Mars became the fool to love. This tale,
too, seems to have come from the popular religion, one of folk tales
rather than high poetry.

The State religion began as a reflection of the domestic cultus of
the king's family, or so it is thought. But the religio populi
Romani that Cicero so named consisted of much more than just the
sacra publici of the State. With the celebration of Anna Perenna at
what is a New Year's celebration, we have an example of a festival
that was not part of the State religion, not on any fasti, but was
celebrated by the plebeians exclusively. There are other distinctly
plebeian culti Deorum, just as there were distinctly patrician culti
Deorum. This celebration of the Ides with the plebeians streaming
from the City, came at the same time that magistrates were conducting
rites inside the City; it was at this time that the Consules
announced the date of the feriae Latinae. This points to a time when
the plebeian culti Deorum were separate from the State religion. The
change seems to have begun in 300 BCE with the passage of the lex
Olgunia that made plebeian pontifices and augures, after the
decemviri sacris faciudis had already been opened to plebeians, as
had all of the magisterial offices. Then, during the Hannibalic War,
the introduction of the Magna Mater shows that a distinction still
remained between a patrician cultus and a plebeian cultus, but that
the State religion was quickly fusing under the pressure of the war.


Today's thought is from Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 5.37:

"'There was a time once when I would meet with luck at every turn.'
But luck is the good fortune that you determine for yourself: and
good fortune is found in the good disposition of the soul, good
impulses of the emotions, and the good of right actions."

FYI

Valete

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

>From: david meadows <rogueclassicist@...>
>Reply-To: Explorator-owner@yahoogroups.com
>To: explorator@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Explorator] explorator 10.47
>Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:46:16 -0400
>
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>explorator 10.47 March 16, 2008
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>Editor's note: Most urls should be active for at least eight
>hours from the time of publication.
>
>For your computer's protection, Explorator is sent in plain text
>and NEVER has attachments. Be suspicious of any Explorator which
>arrives otherwise!!!
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>Thanks to Arthur Shippee, Dave Sowdon, David Critchley,
>Donna Hurst, Hernan Astudillo, John McMahon, Joseph Lauer,
>Mike Ruggeri, Richard C. Griffiths, Robert White,
>Rochelle Altman, Ross W. Sargent, Bob Heuman, Steve Rankin,
>Toke Lindegaard Knudsen, and W. Richard Frahm for headses upses
>this week (as always hoping I have left no one out).
>
>n.b. I've started an incipient section for online dig diaries ... if
>you know of any (that are 'current'), feel free to pass them on!
>================================================================
>EARLY HUMANS
>================================================================
>Paleolithic axes found off the coast of Norfolk:
>
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080311203247.htm
>http://www.wessexarch.co.uk/projects/marine/bmapa/north-sea-handaxes/
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/mar/10/archaeology
>http://www.alphagalileo.org/index.cfm?_rss=1&fuseaction=readrelease&releaseid=527827
>http://www.newkerala.com/one.php?action=fullnews&id=33241
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/mar/10/archaeology?gusrc=rss&feed=science
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/neanderthal-treasure-trove-at-bottom-of-sea-793678.html
>================================================================
>ANCIENT NEAR EAST AND EGYPT
>================================================================
>Donkeys may have first been domesticated in Egypt:
>
>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3525873.ece
>http://tinyurl.com/32ou7d (NS)
>
>Latest mummy CT Scan results:
>
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/15/wmummy115.xml
>
>Brief item on the possible find of an Elamite temple in Iran:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2jeoz2 (UPI)
>
>Recent finds west of Temple Mount:
>
>http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125559
>http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_Item_eng.asp?sec_id=25&subj_id=240&id=1350&module_id=#as
>http://itn.co.uk/news/a9359b2a5b9ad6c7ecfd85a0acc23a44.html
>
>This week's developments in the Temple Mount saga (these are all
>different):
>
>http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58538
>http://tinyurl.com/3ynczm (JPost)
>
>Egyptology News Blog:
>
>http://egyptology.blogspot.com/
>
>Egyptology Blog:
>
>http://www.egyptologyblog.co.uk/
>
>Dr Leen Ritmeyer's Blog:
>
>http://blog.ritmeyer.com/
>
>Paleojudaica:
>
>http://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/
>
>Persepolis Fortification Archives:
>
>http://persepolistablets.blogspot.com/
>
>Archaeologist at Large:
>
>http://spaces.msn.com/members/ArchaeologyinEgypt/
>================================================================
>ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME (AND CLASSICS)
>================================================================
>A thousand burials found during subway construction in
>Thessaloniki:
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080311/ap_on_re_eu/greece_ancient_graves_4
>http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5ia6tZBXvHeMXFgmzNPbasri1wUoA
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23566067/
>http://www.physorg.com/news124442393.html
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080311-AP-greece-anci.html
>http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/03/11/ancient-grave-greece.html
>
>... and one of the burials (?) shows signs of brain surgery:
>
>http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/301632.html
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080311/ap_on_sc/greece_ancient_surgery_2
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336971,00.html
>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/11/ap/tech/main3927675.shtml
>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2008-03-12-ancient-brain-surgery_N.htm?csp=34
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080312/sc_afp/greecearchaeologymedicine_080312142820
>http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmOACL0J7oTrpF9Aemh1SLc4Ab_A
>http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/03/12/ancient-greek-skeleton.html
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080312-AP-brain-picture.html
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/europe/skeleton-reveals-ancient-greek-brain-surgery-795739.html
>http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=23581918&afid=1
>
>Major Roman finds near Wansford/Stamford/Peterborough:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cambridgeshire/7289660.stm
>http://tinyurl.com/2scy3y
>http://www.stamfordmercury.co.uk/news/Roman-ruins-found-in-wood.3861509.jp
>
>Nice report on the 2007 season at Kissonerga-Skalia (Cyprus):
>
>http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=38115&archive=1
>
>OpEddish thing on Oxyrhynchus:
>
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/03/15/do1508.xml
>
>A Jewish prayer in a Roman child's grave from Austria:
>
>http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/archaeological-sensation-austria-15664.html
>
>Identifying Ithaka is turning into a saga of its own:
>
>http://in.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idINL1436864020080314
>
>The Saronic Harbors Archaeological Research Project (SHARP):
>
>http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/538548/
>http://www.physorg.com/news124465285.html
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080311120621.htm
>http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-03/fsu-fcp031108.php
>
>A virtual reconstruction of the Temple of Apollo:
>
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080314-rome-temple.html
>http://www.newkerala.com/one.php?action=fullnews&id=35535
>
>Pondering some of Homer's women:
>
>http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/03/homers_women.html
>
>A quickie guide to Roman art:
>
>http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=532275
>
>Remembering Zeph Stewart:
>
>http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=522431
>
>More coverage of that Mycenean burial at Lefkada:
>
>http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2008/03/16/news/columnists/jenkinson/151140.txt
>http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=23486148&afid=1
>
>More hype for the opening of the House of Augustus:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7286305.stm
>http://tinyurl.com/268h4z (Telegraph)
>http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/10/content_7751976.htm
>http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/news/story/0,,2263804,00.html
>
>More coverage of those Rome subway finds:
>
>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2004267247_webitalysubway07.html
>
>Recent reviews from BMCR:
>
>http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/recent.html
>
>Recent reviews from Scholia:
>
>http://www.classics.und.ac.za/reviews/2007.htm
>
>Visit our blog:
>
>http://www.atrium-media.com/rogueclassicism
>
>Blegen Library News:
>
>http://blegen.blogspot.com/
>
>Mediterranean Archaeology:
>
>http://medarch.blogspot.com/
>================================================================
>EUROPE AND THE UK (+ Ireland)
>================================================================
>More coverage of the Stonehenge-as-battle-site theory:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3aox46
>
>A history of London's business district:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2s3u3d (Independent)
>
>Archaeology in Europe Blog:
>
>http://www.archaeology.eu.com/weblog/index.html
>================================================================
>ASIA AND THE SOUTH PACIFIC
>================================================================
>Interesting (more hobbits?) bones from Palau:
>
>http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/11/healthscience/11fossil.php
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080310-palau-bones.html
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/photogalleries/palau-pictures/index.html
>http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21498,23359090-948,00.html
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7290090.stm
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/science/11fossil.html
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2k5pob (Journal article)
>
>Pre-Pala era structures from Bangladesh:
>
>http://www.andhranews.net/Intl/2008/March/15/Archaeologists-find-structures-37477.asp
>
>The semi-annual warning about the state of Angkor Wat:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2l7smv (Independent)
>
>Have Ned Kelly's bones been found?:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2wvs2g (Reuters via Yahoo)
>http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h7Mk49rVv_UBeO3c58O0szS75vVA
>
>New Zealand Archaeology eNews:
>
>http://www.nzarchaeology.org/netsubnews.htm
>================================================================
>NORTH AMERICA
>================================================================
>On the DNA front, nearly all of Native Americans can apparently
>be traced back to six mothers (why does it always seem to be six?):
>
>http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/03/13/native-american-dna.html
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/native_american_dna
>
>... not sure if this 'peopling of the Americas' article is based
>on the same research:
>
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080313-first-americans.html
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3ba42h (Journal article)
>
>An important dig near Lambton (Ontario) is scheduled for this
>summer:
>
>http://www.theobserver.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=935951
>================================================================
>CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA
>================================================================
>A pre-Inca temple from Peru:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuY-poS_chE
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7295754.stm
>http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLnjbj8eJ6DroE7Z_GZy8VJRqohw
>http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/03/14/peru.inca.ap/
>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2004282690_webperutemple14.html
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080314/ap_on_sc/peru_inca_temple_3
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23626672/
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/mar/14/archaeology.conservation?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/14/tech/main3937997.shtml
>http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90782/90874/6373804.html
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080313/sc_nm/peru_archeology_dc_1
>http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=23626672&afid=1
>
>... this appears to be the same (?):
>
>http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN1332244720080313
>================================================================
>OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST
>================================================================
>Rethinking the earthquake of 365 A.D. and its implications:
>
>http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2008-03/10/content_6521116.htm
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080310-tsunami.html
>
>It was pi day a few days ago:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7296224.stm
>
>A previously-unknown portrait of Mozart:
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_en_mu/mozart_portrait
>
>Looking for guillotined relatives:
>
>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3556333.ece
>
>Another ancient math problem solved:
>
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080314145039.htm
>
>More coverage of those possibly-drawn-by-Leonardo chess illustrations:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Da-Vinci-Chess.html
>
>Oxford Dictionary of National Biography Lives of the Week:
>
>http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/
>
>Arts and Letters Daily:
>
>http://aldaily.com/
>
>Past Preservers:
>
>http://pastpreservers.blogspot.com/
>================================================================
>DIG DIARIES/BLOGS
>================================================================
>[please send in suggestions! current digs only please!]
>
>Tel Dan:
>
>http://teldan.wordpress.com/
>
>Hopkins in Egypt Today:
>
>http://www.jhu.edu/egypttoday/index.html
>================================================================
>GENERAL MAGAZINES AND JOURNALS
>================================================================
>About.com Archaeology:
>
>http://archaeology.about.com/
>
>Archaeorama:
>
>http://blogs.discovery.com/news_archaeorama/
>
>Archaeoblog:
>
>http://archaeoblog.blogspot.com/
>
>Archaeology Briefs:
>
>http://archaeologybriefs.blogspot.com/
>================================================================
>CRIME BEAT
>================================================================
>Egypt thwarted some mummy smugglers:
>
>http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iiaeI6f2SlyAUPRg-da9o2mnpAJw
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337071,00.html
>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iPDakkY3BeFHD9fL5OEXzs-IidwwD8VC1QD00
>http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/03/12/mummy.smuggling.ap/
>http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=23592848&afid=1
>
>The IAA caught a metal detectorist at a site:
>
>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=962342
>http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_Item_eng.asp?sec_id=25&subj_id=240&id=1348&module_id=#as
>
>Tombaroli are operating around Piazza Armerina:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/35lxyh (ViviEnna)
>
>The looting in Ibb continues:
>
>http://www.yobserver.com/local-news/10013883.html
>
>Looting Matters:
>
>http://lootingmatters.blogspot.com/
>================================================================
>NUMISMATICA
>================================================================
>Some Roman gold coins were found in Derbyshire:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/36r6u7 (Telegraph)
>
>Ancient Coin Collecting:
>
>http://ancientcoincollecting.blogspot.com/
>
>Ancient Coins:
>
>http://classicalcoins.blogspot.com/
>================================================================
>EXHIBITIONS, AUCTIONS, AND MUSEUM-RELATED
>================================================================
>Brilliant Women:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3xq6pj (Times)
>
>Golden Graves of Ancient Vani:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/arts/design/14gall.html
>
>Anatomy of a Masterpiece:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/arts/design/14asia.html
>
>War Booty:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/arts/design/11boot.html
>
>Monumental France:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/arts/design/14bald.html
>
>The New York Times has a big special section on museums:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/03/12/arts/artsspecial/index.html
>
>Assorted antiques items of interest:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/arts/design/14anti.html
>
>Bruce Ferrini's collection is being sold off to pay some debts:
>
>http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/16699831.html
>http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/16687051.html
>http://www.wdtn.com/Global/story.asp?S=8021590
>================================================================
>PERFORMANCES AND THEATRE-RELATED
>================================================================
>Duchess of Langeais (movie):
>
>http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/03/10/080310crci_cinema_denby
>
>John Adams (tv):
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/arts/television/14adam.html
>
>Coversations in Tusculum:
>
>http://theater2.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/theater/reviews/12conv.html
>
>The Seagull:
>
>http://theater2.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/theater/reviews/14seag.html
>
>Changes at the Stratford Festival:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/theater/14stra.html
>================================================================
>OBITUARIES
>================================================================
>Erica Jesselson (Philanthropist):
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/nyregion/14jesselson.html
>================================================================
>DON'T EAT THAT ELMER (A.K.A. CVM GRANO SALIS)
>================================================================
>They accidentally washed the Shroud of Turing with a red shirt:
>
>http://www.theonion.com/content/node/75621
>================================================================
>PODCASTS
>================================================================
>The Book and the Spade:
>
>http://www.radioscribe.com/bknspade.htm
>
>The Dig:
>
>http://www.thedigradio.com/
>
>Stone Pages Archaeology News:
>
>http://news.stonepages.com/
>
>Archaeologica Audio News:
>
>http://www.archaeologychannel.org/AudioNews.asp
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