Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Mar 30-31, 2009

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62580 From: Charlie Collins Date: 2009-03-30
Subject: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62581 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2009-03-30
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62582 From: Q. Valerius Poplicola Date: 2009-03-30
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62583 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: prid. Kal. Apr.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62584 From: marcushoratius Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Pridie Kalendas Apriles: Lunae in Aventino
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62585 From: Maior Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62586 From: Q. Valerius Poplicola Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62587 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62588 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: INVITATION to the XXth Floralia Carnival - Free Nova Roman Weekend i
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62589 From: James Hooper Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62590 From: Gnaeus Caelius Ahenobarbus Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Market day chat, all day long!



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62580 From: Charlie Collins Date: 2009-03-30
Subject: Latin word question
Salve,

I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
that would work?

Vale,
Quintus Servilius Priscus

--
Deism: A Non-Prophet Religion
World Union of Deists
http://www.deism.com/index.html
Yahoo IM: oldroman2 (video available)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62581 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2009-03-30
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Re: [Nova-Roma] Latin word question

 A. Tullia Scholastica Q. Servilio Prisco quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

Salve,

I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
that would work?

    ATS:  How about anima?  This word also means breath or life (somewhat poetically in the latter case), and can also mean darling.  Animus also has this meaning (soul), but tends to mean mind.  

Vale,
Quintus Servilius Priscus

            Vale, et valete.  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62582 From: Q. Valerius Poplicola Date: 2009-03-30
Subject: Re: Latin word question
If it has to be seven letter, something "license-platey" could be "MenSana"
or Mens Sana "Sound mind", from the verse "mens sana in corpore sano"

Poplicola

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From: "Charlie Collins" <oldroman@...>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:14 PM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latin word question

> Salve,
>
> I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
> personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
> Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
> that would work?
>
> Vale,
> Quintus Servilius Priscus
>
> --
> Deism: A Non-Prophet Religion
> World Union of Deists
> http://www.deism.com/index.html
> Yahoo IM: oldroman2 (video available)
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62583 From: Gaius Equitius Cato Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: prid. Kal. Apr.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Salvete!

Hodiernus dies est pridie Kalendas Aprilis; haec dies comitialis est.

"Muses, sweet-speaking daughters of Zeus Kronides
and mistresses of song, sing next of long-winged Moon!
From her immortal head a heaven-sent glow
envelops the earth and great beauty arises
under its radiance. From her golden crown the dim air
is made to glitter as her rays turn night to noon,
whenever bright Selene, having bathed her beautiful skin
in the Ocean, put on her shining rainment
and harnessed her proud-necked and glittering steeds,
swiftly drives them on as their manes play
with the evening, dividing the months. Her great orbit is full
and as she waxes a most brilliant light appears
in the sky. Thus to mortals she is a sign and a token...
Hail, white-armed goddess, bright Selene, mild, bright-tressed queen!
And now I will leave you and sing the glories of men half-divine,
whose deeds minstrels, the servants of the Muses, celebrate with
lovely lips." - Homer, Hymn to Selene II.1-13, 17-20

"Luna the Moon's course also has a sort of winter and summer solstice;
and she emits many streams of influence, which supply animal creatures
with nourishment and stimulate their growth and which cause plants to
flourish and attain maturity." - Cicero, De Natura Deorum, 2.14

"Luna in her rosy chariot was climbing to the height of mid-heaven,
when drowsy Somnus glided down with full sweep of his pinions to earth
and gathered a silent world to his embrace." - Statius, Achilleid, 1.619

"Cynthia, queen of the mysteries of the night, if as they say thou
dost vary in threefold wise the aspect of thy godhead, and in
different shape comest down into the woodland...The goddess stooped
her horns and made bright her kindly star, and illumined the
battle-field with near-approaching chariot." - Statius, Thebaid, 10.365

Today is the festival of Luna, in Greek mythology the moon goddess,
known to the Romans as Selene. Selene was the daughter of Hyperion and
Theia, sister of Helios the Sun and Eos the Dawn. Unlike Diana, Selene
was not known for her chastity. She bore three daughters to Zeus, and
was seduced by Pan for a piece of fleece. There was no known moon
cult among the Greeks, but Selene was a significant figure in Greek
poetry and sorcery and was often identified with Hecate and Artemis.
Apollonius of Rhodes tells how Selene loved a mortal, the handsome
male prostitute —-- or, in the version Pausanias knew, a king --— of
Elis, or otherwise called a hunter, named Endymion, from Asia Minor.
He was so beautiful that Selene asked Zeus to grant him eternal life
so he would never leave her: her asking permission of Zeus reveals
itself as an Olympian transformation of an older myth: Cicero
recognized that the moon goddess had acted autonomously.
Alternatively, Endymion made the decision to live forever in sleep.
Every night, Selene slipped down behind Mount Latmus near Miletus.
Selene had fifty daughters from Endymion, including Naxos. The
sanctuary of Endymion at Heracleia on the southern slope of Latmus is
a horseshoe-shaped chamber with an entrance hall and pillared forecourt.

The Romans later associated Diana with Selene. From Selene we get the
metal Selenium, the electrical conductivity of which varies with the
intensity of the light, like the changing Moon. As Phoebus was the
Sun, Selene was also known as Phoebe, the Moon. In this capacity She
represented the evening and the night, and was depicted carrying a
torch and wearing long robes and a veil on the back of her head.
Phoebe and Selene - the sister of Helios - were both Titans and of the
older gods, whereas Artemis was of the next generation.


"It is lucky to say, 'Hares, Hares,' aloud as you go to bed on the
last day of the month (any month), and to say 'Rabbits, Rabbits,' as
soon as you awaken the following morning. This is true for any month,
but it seems especially appropriate during this month of the mad hare.
And why are hares mad in March? Because this is when hares breed, and
apparently leaping, cavorting, dancing and frolicking are part of
their mating ritual." - Waverly Fitzgerald, School of The Seasons

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62584 From: marcushoratius Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Pridie Kalendas Apriles: Lunae in Aventino
M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Quiritibus et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Luna dulcedonem in nos communicet.

Hodie est die pristini Kalendas Apriles; haec dies comitialis est: Lunae in Aventino..

"Therefore adoring You as though You were nurturing Venus Herself, whether You are female, or whether You are male, even so, Noctiluca, Illuminating the Night, You are a nurturing Moon." ~ Laevius, FPR fr. 26

"The Moon rules the months: this month's span ends with Luna cherished atop the Aventine Hill." ~ P. Ovidius Naso, Fasti 3.83-84

"Luna is so named certainly because She alone shines (lucet) at night. Therefore is She called Noctiluca on the Palatine; for there Her temple shines by night (noctu lucet). Certain persons call Her Diana, just as they call Sol Apollo. The one name, that of Apollo, is Greek, the other Latin. And from the fact that the Moon goes both high and widely, She is called Diviana. From the fact that the Moon is wont to be under the lands as well as over them, Ennius' Epicharmus calls Her Proserpina." ~ M. Terrentius Varro, Lingua Latina 5.68

The fasti Praenestini agrees with Ovid than tonight's festival for Luna was held on the Aventine where She had a temple. Varro refers to another Temple of Luna on the Palatine, and possibly to another festival. The Moon is the Queen of the Stars and by Varro's time the stars were associated with the heroes and honored dead. They were seen to travel along the Milky Way, called the celestial Sacra Via by Ovid (Met. 1), to a celestial abode near the Gods in the northern parts of the Heavens. (The Book of Psalms of Judaism and the Egyptian Book of Coming Forth likewise place the Council of the Gods in the northern parts of the Heavens.) These Lares had both a celestial home in the stars and were thought to be in the Underworld. But this Underworld is not below the ground in the earth itself; it is instead the celestial hemisphere beneath the celestial equator. The ecliptic, or the path of the sun through the Zodiac, is at an angle to the celestial equator equal to the tilt of the earth's axis, and the ecliptic intersects the celestial equator at two points. The sun crosses these two intersections at either equinox. The solstices are when the sun reaches the furthest points on the ecliptic above and below the celestial equator. The orbit of the moon around the earth is at a different angle so that its path crosses both above and below the ecliptic as well as above and below the celestial equator. The orbit of the moon thus carries it into the Underworld, as well as into the realm of the Gods above. Thereby was the Queen of the Stars identified with Proserpina who is Queen of the Underworld. But there are two parts to this identification.

As in Plato's Myth of Er, the souls of the dead travel along the Milky Way both into a celestial abode and, for some, as a path of return into life. The same idea is found with Virgil in the Aeneid. The entrance to the celestial Via Sacra was guarded by the pincers of Scorpio. Only those who were weighed in Libra could enter the path upward. And the return for some passed through Cancer. The Milky Way itself was said to have formed when the infant Hercules grasped the breasts of Juno too tightly while nursing in Jupiter's abode. That is, the stars that form the Milky Way are composed of the divine fire that came forth from Juno to nurish the semi-divine Hercules into godhood. Similarly, the divine fire forms the souls that carry the geniuses and the junos of the dead along the Via Sacra. Luna acts as their guide. As Proserpina She receives them into the Underworld of the dead, but as Juno Lucina Luna also leads the departed back into life through reincarnation. Varro continues by telling this additional aspect of Luna.

"She appears therefore to be called by the Latins also Juno Lucina, either because She is also the Earth, as the natural scientists say, and shines (lucet); or because from Her light in which conception takes place until that one in which there is a birth into light, the Moon continues to help, until She has brought it forth into the light of day when the months have passed, the name Juno Lucina was made from iuvare (to help) and lux (light). From this fact women in labor invoke Her; for the Moon is the guide to those that are born, since the months belong to Her." ~ M. Terrentius Varro, Lingua Latina 5.69

Conception provided for the growth of a physical body. The development of the foetus was under the providence of Luna. But here Varro refers to Luna leading a genius or juno in its fiery vehicle from its heavenly abode, down from the stars along the Milky Way into the physical body. Juno Lucina is not the same Goddess as Juno Capitolina, but the divine juno of Diana Lucina who Varro equates with Luna. The triple Goddess of Luna was variously represented as Proserpina, Ceres, and Venus, or as Proserpina, Diana, and Hecate, as well as in some other combinations. Here though we are concerned with only two, Luna as Proserpina and Diana Lucina. The body is 'reanimated;' that is, it is given a new soul with a genius, while the genius is once more placed into a physical body, 'reincarnated.' It is therefore not by accident that tonight's festival should be at the end of March and on the eve of the Kalends of April. Roman marriages performed in the later part of June might expect a child by the end of March. And April begins with the Veneralia, honoring the Goddess for Her part in brining happiness into a family with children. Thus in the feriae Noctulunae two aspects of Luna are celebrated, one who guides the spirits of the dead to their celestial abodes and another who, as Diana Lucina, leads them back into the light of day as though She were "nurturing Venus Herself."


Our thought for today is from L. Annaeus Seneca, Epistula 89:

"Practice is what you must keep under rein: rouse what is growing faint in you, tighten what is relaxed, master what is stubborn."
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62585 From: Maior Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Salve;
following Poplicola, since you're a deist, MensBona, Mens Bona, the right thought (meaning the best idea for the situation, not as opposed to a 'wrong' thought) would be very appropriate.
vale
Maior
>
> If it has to be seven letter, something "license-platey" could be "MenSana"
> or Mens Sana "Sound mind", from the verse "mens sana in corpore sano"
>
> Poplicola
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Charlie Collins" <oldroman@...>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:14 PM
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latin word question
>
> > Salve,
> >
> > I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
> > personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
> > Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
> > that would work?
> >
> > Vale,
> > Quintus Servilius Priscus
> >
> > --
> > Deism: A Non-Prophet Religion
> > World Union of Deists
> > http://www.deism.com/index.html
> > Yahoo IM: oldroman2 (video available)
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62586 From: Q. Valerius Poplicola Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Mens Bona is 8 letters. MenSana is a playful in that the "-s" on Mens is the
beginning of "Sana", just like in many English playful names (cf. OffiSource
for Office Source, etc...)

Poplicola

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From: "Maior" <rory12001@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:44 PM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Latin word question

> Salve;
> following Poplicola, since you're a deist, MensBona, Mens Bona, the right
> thought (meaning the best idea for the situation, not as opposed to a
> 'wrong' thought) would be very appropriate.
> vale
> Maior
>>
>> If it has to be seven letter, something "license-platey" could be
>> "MenSana"
>> or Mens Sana "Sound mind", from the verse "mens sana in corpore sano"
>>
>> Poplicola
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Charlie Collins" <oldroman@...>
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:14 PM
>> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latin word question
>>
>> > Salve,
>> >
>> > I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
>> > personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
>> > Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
>> > that would work?
>> >
>> > Vale,
>> > Quintus Servilius Priscus
>> >
>> > --
>> > Deism: A Non-Prophet Religion
>> > World Union of Deists
>> > http://www.deism.com/index.html
>> > Yahoo IM: oldroman2 (video available)
>> >
>>
>
>
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62587 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Salve Prisce !

Just to disturb our Roman minds, it may be useful to know that Kia is a Korean cars manufeacturer, and that the "Soul" is in fact an allusion, (as, at the same time a pun on English "soul"), to the capital of South Korea, Seoul, which is pronounced "So-ûl" in Korean (so the "soul").

Now, to give you a Latin translation for Seoul, we can discover that the word comes from ancient Korean which means "capital city".
So, in Latin, it would give "Caput" or "Regia", or... just "urbs", like Rome ! ;-(

Vale,


P. Memmius Albucius pr.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Charlie Collins <oldroman@...> wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
> personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
> Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
> that would work?
>
> Vale,
> Quintus Servilius Priscus
>
> --
> Deism: A Non-Prophet Religion
> World Union of Deists
> http://www.deism.com/index.html
> Yahoo IM: oldroman2 (video available)
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62588 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: INVITATION to the XXth Floralia Carnival - Free Nova Roman Weekend i
Cn. Lentulus legatus pro praetore Pannoniae Quiritibus s. p. d.


Quirites, my fellow citizens!

I am announcing a very excellent news, and a friendly invitation to an all free Nova Roman weekend (with free accommodation and meals) in my province Pannonia.


THE XXth FLORALIA CARNIVAL IN AQUINCUM (Hungary)

Last year, the Nova Roman province of Pannonia participated and organized the most important parts of the 19th Floralia Carnival at the ruins of the Roman Aquincum (Budapest, Hungary), organized the Museum of Aquincum:

http://www.aquincum.hu/

Photos from the XIXth Floralia with Nova Roma:

http://tinyurl.com/cnjkxk

More photos:

http://gladius.org.hu/galeria/index.php?d=floralia&pi=60

http://gladius.org.hu/galeria/index.php?d=eskuvo

We received good credits so that this year Nova Roma has got a request from the Museum of Aquincum to take part in organizing the 20th Floralia Carnival, on 23-24th May.


PROGRAMS (MAY 23-24th, Budapest)

If you are interested, please write me to the e-mail address, and we will talk about how to travel, and all the details:

cn_corn_lent@...

Programs include legionary demonstrations, Roman juridical show and trial, religious celebrations in honour of Nova Roma and the 2000th anniversary of the occupation of Pannonia by the Roman Empire, a great Roman religious ceremony and sacrifice with solemn processions between the ruins of Aquincum with all participants, three reenactor legions and civilians in Roman costum, a Mithraic ritual, gladiatorial combats, Roman market and other nice and funny shows and celebrations. You will get civilian Roman clothes to wear during the events and you can try all military equipments and accessories.


INVITATION

Pannonia Provincia of Nova Roma is proud to invite citizens of Nova Roma all over the world to visit this event and take part in the programs of Nova Roma, all for free!


ALL FREE !!!

Any Nova Roman citizen who comes to the Floralia Carnival will be guests of Pannonia Provincia, and will get free accomodation, free meal and free entrance to the territory of the ruins of Aquincum and to the Museum, and free entrance all to the Floralia Carnival programs.

All you would have to pay for is the traveling.

I would be very honoured to welcome any citizen, especially our magistrates, priests and senators in my province as guests of Pannonia
Provincia and my Pannonian fellow-citizens.


Curate, ut valeatis, Quirites!


Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
LEGATUS PRO PRAETORE PANNONIAE
P O N T I F E X
SACERDOS CONCORDIAE
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Sacerdos Provinciae Pannoniae
Interpres Linguae Hungaricae
Accensus Consulum M. Curiatii Complutensis et M. Iulii Severi
Scriba Praetoris P. Memmii Albucii
Scriba Censorum Ti. Galerii Paulini et C. Popillii Laenatis
Scriba Aedilis Curulis Cn. Iulii Caesaris
Scriba Rogatricis A. Tulliae Scholasticae
Scriba Interpretis Linguae Latinae A. Tulliae Scholasticae
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Magister Sodalitatis Latinitatis
Dominus Factionis Russatae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62589 From: James Hooper Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Re: Latin word question
Salve, Qintus
Not a Latin scholar, but the word anime might work.
Vale,
Gaius Pompeius Marcellus


On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:14:25 -0500
Charlie Collins <oldroman@...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> I just bought a 2010 Kia Soul automobile and would like to get a
> personalized license plate for it. So, my question is what would be
> Latin for Soul? It has to have 7 letters only. Is there any Latin word
> that would work?
>
> Vale,
> Quintus Servilius Priscus
>
> --
> Deism: A Non-Prophet Religion
> World Union of Deists
> http://www.deism.com/index.html
> Yahoo IM: oldroman2 (video available)

BB,
Warrior
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 62590 From: Gnaeus Caelius Ahenobarbus Date: 2009-03-31
Subject: Market day chat, all day long!
Cn. Caelius Ahenobarbus omnibus s.p.d.

It's Market Day! Remember how Nova Roma used to have real-time chats on Market Day? I still think we should revive this. IRC, while not great, is pretty simple. If you don't have an IRC client:

1) Visit http://www.mibbit.com/chat
2) Pull down server list and choose "Freenode"
3) Put some of your Roman Name in the Nick box
4) Put "#novaroma" (without the quotation marks) in the channel box
5) Click "Go"

So, on the Freenode IRC network there is a channel called #novaroma where we can chat. For 20 more hours. Go. :-)

Optime valete!

--
Gnaeus Caelius Ahenobarbus
Lictor Curiatus, Accensus Consulum, et Scriba Aedilis Curulis
http://becomingnewthroughtheold.blogspot.com