--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Titus Flavius Aquila <titus.aquila@...> wrote:
>
> What if the honour of us Plebeians is insulted in the most disgusting way and nobody would take
> offense ?
>
> Our republic would be dead !
>
> Vale
> Titus Flavius Aquila
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Matt Hucke <hucke@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:35:14 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Nova-Roma] RE: Attn: Plebeian Citizens of Nova Roma Take Note
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Titus Flavius Aquila wrote:
>
> > Plebeians supporting patricians insulting us Plebeians... .that´s pitiful, Plebians take note. I will.
>
> What if they threw a class war and nobody came?
>
> --
> hucke@cynico. net - http://www.graveyar ds.com
>
> It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the Leaf of China
> that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes
> a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...> wrote:
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica omnibus S.P.D.
>
> For those who missed this, Yahoo is moving to a new system, and is doing
> maintenance on all groups today. Posts have been appearing out of sequence,
> and unmoderated people have ended up on moderation. Several of TGP¹s posts
> have ended in the spam dump, which means they have to be rescued and
> approved by someone. There is nothing insidious about this; it happens
> periodically. Similar problems occur with a separate, apparently
> unmoderated, reenactors¹ list of which I am a member. Paranoia is a mental
> disease, and it would be wise to consider cyber problems before coming to
> the conclusion that the censor is moderated by anything but a cyber glitch.
> The same may be true of other ML members.
>
> Of course, if you would prefer, we can simply leave the posts in the
> spam dump...
>
> Valete.
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Gaudialis,
>
> Other mailing lists would never tolerate "amount of vitriol and apparent hatred that I saw people directing at each other on this list" you so noted and I am in full agreement.
> The rest of your post stands on its own. Thank you.
>
> Cura ut valeas,
>
> L. Julia Aquila
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@> wrote:
> >
> > P. Corva Q. Fabio Maximos.p.d.
> >
> > Fabius said:
> > I understand why there must be moderation on the ML, and I agree with it; it is to put the best face of Nova Roma forward.
> >
> > Corva responds: You think the main list is Nova Roma's best face forward?!
> >
> > To be painfully blunt, there have been times when I would have been deeply embarrassed to invite a prospective new member to view this list and tell them it was normal for Nova Roma. When I first came here, I was stunned at the amount of vitriol and apparent hatred that I saw people directing at each other on this list, who were supposedly all lovers of ancient Rome, its culture, and its history. I really had never seen people behaving like this on a moderated mailing list, before. Most moderators I've dealt with would not have tolerated the name-calling and darn-near slander I've seen many times here. I've been in Nova Roma for seven years, and it hasn't gotten much better.
> >
> > Try to moderate it, the way you would _any other_ mailing list? Here, that's condemned as censorship.
> >
> > Implore people to at least be polite to each other on-list and act like adults in public? You get told that "That would be putting a dishonestly 'nice' face on Nova Roma. We should let people see all of our dirty laundry, and let them judge for themselves. Those who can't take the heat will stay out of the kitchen." (to paraphrase)
> >
> > That sounds like a _great_ recruiting tactic. All that does is encourage people who are just as argumentive as the current members are, to join.
> >
> > I really think that if we concentrated less on writing laws and more on actually studying Roman culture and getting to know each other as people, instead of as future prospective lawmakers, we'd be a lot happier with each other and more productive in general. There would be less of a sense of power-play.
> >
> > Erm--Sorry for the rant, but this has been my Big Peeve ever since joining.
> >
> > Paulla Corva Gaudialis
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Moore" <astrobear@...> wrote:
>
> Once again, Scholastica has shown herself to be a true member of the
> Praetorial staff.
>
>
>
> It is TRUE that Yahoo is doing maintenance today. You will find a link to
> the notice at the top of any group. However,
>
>
>
> It is NOT TRUE, that this has any effect on anything that has happened today
> so far. The notice from Yahoo is clear: the maintenance will begin at 8:00
> PM GMT, which is 1:00 PM PDT. It's not even 7:00 AM PDT yet.
>
>
>
> Furthermore, Yahoo says the downtime will last only 30 to 60 minutes.
>
>
>
> Potitus
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of A. Tullia Scholastica
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:01 AM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Yahoo and moderation issues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica omnibus S.P.D.
>
> For those who missed this, Yahoo is moving to a new system, and is doing
> maintenance on all groups today. Posts have been appearing out of sequence,
> and unmoderated people have ended up on moderation. Several of TGP's posts
> have ended in the spam dump, which means they have to be rescued and
> approved by someone. There is nothing insidious about this; it happens
> periodically. Similar problems occur with a separate, apparently
> unmoderated, reenactors' list of which I am a member. Paranoia is a mental
> disease, and it would be wise to consider cyber problems before coming to
> the conclusion that the censor is moderated by anything but a cyber glitch.
> The same may be true of other ML members.
>
> Of course, if you would prefer, we can simply leave the posts in the
> spam dump...
>
> Valete.
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Titus Flavius Aquila <titus.aquila@...> wrote:
>
> Plebeians supporting patricians insulting us Plebeians....that´s pitiful, Plebians take note. I will.
>
> Where are the Tribunes of the Plebeians we have elected ? Take a stand ! I as Tribune of the Plebeians would
> have answered for sure.
>
> Valete
> Titus Flavius Aquila
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 03:09:27 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [Nova-Roma] RE: Attn: Plebeian Citizens of Nova Roma Take Note
>
>
>
>
>
> For the record:
>
> I am also a plebeian. Three distinguished plebeians of Nova Roma have come
> out to shut down Aquila's lies. Anyone else dare to try to call us patrician
> conspirators again?
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Titus Flavius Aquila <titus.aquila@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Maior,
>
> thank you very much for this background information. Well noted. Be assured I am not so easily to be shut up and I am not
> afraid of these Back Alley buddies.Afraid about this bullying force ? LOL.
>
> But you are right we should not feed them any longer.
>
> Optime vale
> Titus Flavius Aquila
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Maior <rory12001@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 03:27:29 Uhr
> Betreff: [Nova-Roma] the players: from the Back Alley
>
>
>
>
>
> Salvete Quirites;
> since Ti. Aquila asked me here is a short list of the Back Alley players:
> L. Cornelius Sulla
> G. Equitius Cato
> Q. Fabius Maximus
> Gn. Iulius Caesar
> Q. Valerius Poplicola
> Metellus
> Corucanius Cato
> L. Cornelius Cicero
> both censor:G. Popillius Laena and Ti.Galerius Paulinus
>
> Basically if Julia Aquila posts, Titus Aquila or Dexter or I or any non-BA civis, they tag-team, replying to you first and arguing, then the next one takes you on. So there is no relief. It is a bullying force to shut you up.
>
> It seems like the entire ML is against you, but really it is just a few, what 10 citizens maybe 13, trying to bully the cives.
>
> Of course bullies are essentially cowards, which is why they need to do it in a group. So just ignore them when they reply to a post.
>
> They'll go away when they find it dull. Just don't feed the nonsense.
> optime vale
> M. Hortensia Maior
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Kirsteen Wright <kirsteen.falconsfan@...> wrote:
>
> On 4/13/09, Gaius Petronius Dexter <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > So, more seriously, what do you think, as christian, about "idols" and Gods
> > and Goddesses of Rome? I have a true interest in your opinion, because I
> > know the St Paul's epistles in which, according to the Deuteronom, he wrote
> > that the cult of idols is forbidden and is to blame. For example, in Romans,
> > I,1, or in 1 Corinthians 8,1 and 10 with this unequivocal order : Propter
> > quod, carissimi mihi, fugite ab idolorum cultura! ("Consequently, my dear
> > fellows, shun the cult of idols!")
>
>
> Forgive me for jumping in here but this is something I find interesting. St.
> Paul is specifically talking about food offered to idols. Now, I suppose it
> depends how you look at it but I would say, that as practitioner of the
> Religio, I don't offer food to idols nor participate in a 'cult of idols'.
> In this sense, I suppose I'm with St Paul.
>
> I do have some statues representing my gods and I do offer food on my
> lararium but in no way am I offering this to the idols or statues or
> worshipping them in any way. Rather I am making the offerings to the gods
> themselves and would do so whether I had a statue of them or not, as indeed
> I have done when away from home.
>
> I totally agree with St Paul in 1st Corinthians 8; 4 (Revised Standard
> version) when he says 'We know that an idol has no real existence'. That
> doesn't mean the gods don't exist
>
> Flavia Lucilla Merula
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Gualtero Graeco sal.
>
> Salve!
>
> If you are looking for people to *write* about reconstructionism, and are interested, I am certainly willing to volunteer to discuss reconstruction of Roman law and government. I know Maria Caeca isn't crazy about it - and I respect that; but we are all here for different reasons, founded in a love of ancient Rome. For some that means politics and the law :)
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Salve Corva,
> >
> > I completely agree with regard to what NR *should* be doing. Perhaps this wasn't the best time, though, to make my post since I fear it probably got buried in everyone's mailbox amid the flame wars going back and forth.
> >
> > I'm still examining the financial feasibility and part of that is to see how much actual demand there is, so the more people that respond to the poll running on the BA the better (it's running there because it's not an "official" NR project).
> >
> > Getting article submissions--good scholarly material--will be another issue. I can write some of them, but I can't do it all!
> >
> > Your offer to volunteer is very much appreciated! I will remember it once it gets to that stage of the operation where submissions are coming in and being being selected.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Gualterus
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@> wrote:
> > >
> > > P. Corva Gualtero Graeco s.p.d.
> > >
> > > I would love to see a journal like this, if well done. I think this is the sort of thing Nova Roma _should_ be doing. It is a good, solid goal that can be accomplished in a relatively short time and kept going.
> > >
> > > If it is published in English, and if you need a proofreader or copy editor for it, I hereby volunteer.
> > >
> > > Paulla Corva
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please forgive me, but I'm in troll mode atm!
> > > >
> > > > There's a new list poll on the BA, "How much would you be willing to pay for a subscription to a biannual journal dealing with classical/ancient reconstructionism?"
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salve,
>
> > But...if you are not satisfied with our law, I would ask you to perhaps also direct this question to M. Hortensia Maior, as she has publicly and repeatedly identified herself as a Jew - and yet is a flaminica Carmentalis and a sacerdos Mentis? Let's see how she answers in response to
>
> Cato, Cato, Cato... I think we all know that "Jew" is a multivalent term, ranging from a spectrum of religious beliefs to certain culture and ethnic associations.
>
> Plus, based on my personal exchanges with her, it seems pretty clear to me that she is not a monotheistic Yahwist.
>
> -Gualterus
>

> What if the honour of us Plebeians is insulted in the most disgusting way and nobody would take
> offense ?

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salve!
>
> Sounds good! I think law and government are certainly within the scope of such a journal.
>
> -Gualterus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@> wrote:
> >
> > Cato Gualtero Graeco sal.
> >
> > Salve!
> >
> > If you are looking for people to *write* about reconstructionism, and are interested, I am certainly willing to volunteer to discuss reconstruction of Roman law and government. I know Maria Caeca isn't crazy about it - and I respect that; but we are all here for different reasons, founded in a love of ancient Rome. For some that means politics and the law :)
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve Corva,
> > >
> > > I completely agree with regard to what NR *should* be doing. Perhaps this wasn't the best time, though, to make my post since I fear it probably got buried in everyone's mailbox amid the flame wars going back and forth.
> > >
> > > I'm still examining the financial feasibility and part of that is to see how much actual demand there is, so the more people that respond to the poll running on the BA the better (it's running there because it's not an "official" NR project).
> > >
> > > Getting article submissions--good scholarly material--will be another issue. I can write some of them, but I can't do it all!
> > >
> > > Your offer to volunteer is very much appreciated! I will remember it once it gets to that stage of the operation where submissions are coming in and being being selected.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Gualterus
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > P. Corva Gualtero Graeco s.p.d.
> > > >
> > > > I would love to see a journal like this, if well done. I think this is the sort of thing Nova Roma _should_ be doing. It is a good, solid goal that can be accomplished in a relatively short time and kept going.
> > > >
> > > > If it is published in English, and if you need a proofreader or copy editor for it, I hereby volunteer.
> > > >
> > > > Paulla Corva
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please forgive me, but I'm in troll mode atm!
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a new list poll on the BA, "How much would you be willing to pay for a subscription to a biannual journal dealing with classical/ancient reconstructionism?"
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Gualtero Graeco sal.
>
> Salve.
>
> Yes, I understand this. I really don't care how Maior juggles the two. My point is that - and I'm going to be very blunt - Petronius Dexter is obviously fishing for me to say something that will be used to cry "blasphemy!" against me - to get me to "defame" the religio in public. He very specifically asks for my "personal" views, as opposed to asking what Christianity itself teaches.
>
> I am asking that if my personal religious views are relevant to my service to the res publica, then everyone - especially those who serve as religious representatives of the People - should be held to the same question.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > > But...if you are not satisfied with our law, I would ask you to perhaps also direct this question to M. Hortensia Maior, as she has publicly and repeatedly identified herself as a Jew - and yet is a flaminica Carmentalis and a sacerdos Mentis? Let's see how she answers in response to
> >
> > Cato, Cato, Cato... I think we all know that "Jew" is a multivalent term, ranging from a spectrum of religious beliefs to certain culture and ethnic associations.
> >
> > Plus, based on my personal exchanges with her, it seems pretty clear to me that she is not a monotheistic Yahwist.
> >
> > -Gualterus
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Matt Hucke <hucke@...> wrote:
>
>
> > T.Flavius Aquila Fl.Galerius Aureliano sal.
> >
> > The whole purpose of the Back Alley is disrespect, insults, purging, self-aggrandizement , and hogwallow in an unmoderated forum. 
>
> Based on your experience subscribing to it for, what, three days?
>
> This main list is equally filled with disrespect, insults, self-aggrandizement.
> The only diffference is the level of respect shown for various pointy hats - and,
> of course, the lack of prior restraint on free speech.
>
> And what's this "purging"? Who has been purged?
>
> The back alley is also filled with friendship, cooperation, and constructive seeking
> and giving of advice. You must have missed that in your three days there.
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> hucke@... - http://www.graveyards.com
>
> It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the Leaf of China
> that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes
> a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
>

>
>> T.Flavius Aquila Fl.Galerius Aureliano sal.
>>
>> The whole purpose of the Back Alley is disrespect,
>> insults,�purging,�self-aggrandizement , and hogwallow in an unmoderated
>> forum.�
>
> Based on your experience subscribing to it for, what, three days?
>
> This main list is equally filled with disrespect, insults,
> self-aggrandizement.
> The only diffference is the level of respect shown for various pointy
> hats - and,
> of course, the lack of prior restraint on free speech.
>
> And what's this "purging"? Who has been purged?
>
> The back alley is also filled with friendship, cooperation, and
> constructive seeking
> and giving of advice. You must have missed that in your three days there.
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> hucke@... - http://www.graveyards.com
>
> It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the Leaf of
> China
> that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking
> becomes
> a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

>
> Salve,
>
> Yes, I think it was obvious that he was fishing. I was earlier willing to
> give him the benefit of the doubt with regard to the question put to
> Sulla, that perhaps it was simply an issue of delivery and not his
> intention to attack. But, with his question to you about Christianity it
> now seems to me that Dexter is just looking for trouble.
>
> -Gualterus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Equitius Cato" <mlcinnyc@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Cato Gualtero Graeco sal.
>>
>> Salve.
>>
>> Yes, I understand this. I really don't care how Maior juggles the two.
>> My point is that - and I'm going to be very blunt - Petronius Dexter is
>> obviously fishing for me to say something that will be used to cry
>> "blasphemy!" against me - to get me to "defame" the religio in public.
>> He very specifically asks for my "personal" views, as opposed to asking
>> what Christianity itself teaches.
>>
>> I am asking that if my personal religious views are relevant to my
>> service to the res publica, then everyone - especially those who serve as
>> religious representatives of the People - should be held to the same
>> question.
>>
>> Vale,
>>
>> Cato
>>
>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Salve,
>> >
>> > > But...if you are not satisfied with our law, I would ask you to
>> > > perhaps also direct this question to M. Hortensia Maior, as she has
>> > > publicly and repeatedly identified herself as a Jew - and yet is a
>> > > flaminica Carmentalis and a sacerdos Mentis? Let's see how she
>> > > answers in response to
>> >
>> > Cato, Cato, Cato... I think we all know that "Jew" is a multivalent
>> > term, ranging from a spectrum of religious beliefs to certain culture
>> > and ethnic associations.
>> >
>> > Plus, based on my personal exchanges with her, it seems pretty clear to
>> > me that she is not a monotheistic Yahwist.
>> >
>> > -Gualterus
>> >
>>
>
>
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Kirsteen Wright <kirsteen.falconsfan@...> wrote:
>
> On 4/13/09, Gaius Petronius Dexter <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > So, more seriously, what do you think, as christian, about "idols" and Gods
> > and Goddesses of Rome? I have a true interest in your opinion, because I
> > know the St Paul's epistles in which, according to the Deuteronom, he wrote
> > that the cult of idols is forbidden and is to blame. For example, in Romans,
> > I,1, or in 1 Corinthians 8,1 and 10 with this unequivocal order : Propter
> > quod, carissimi mihi, fugite ab idolorum cultura! ("Consequently, my dear
> > fellows, shun the cult of idols!")
>
>
> Forgive me for jumping in here but this is something I find interesting. St.
> Paul is specifically talking about food offered to idols. Now, I suppose it
> depends how you look at it but I would say, that as practitioner of the
> Religio, I don't offer food to idols nor participate in a 'cult of idols'.
> In this sense, I suppose I'm with St Paul.
>
> I do have some statues representing my gods and I do offer food on my
> lararium but in no way am I offering this to the idols or statues or
> worshipping them in any way. Rather I am making the offerings to the gods
> themselves and would do so whether I had a statue of them or not, as indeed
> I have done when away from home.
>
> I totally agree with St Paul in 1st Corinthians 8; 4 (Revised Standard
> version) when he says 'We know that an idol has no real existence'. That
> doesn't mean the gods don't exist
>
> Flavia Lucilla Merula
>

> Q. Valerio C. Petronius s.p.d.,
>
> You wrote:
>> Message 62923. I warn in advance, some language might be confusing for a
>> non-English speaker. At least, Albucius misinterpreted it. I implore you
>> to
>> read carefully.
>
> I read the message 62923 and I very shortly answered on the message 62926.
>
> But now about the interesting "plurium interrogationum".
>
> When I ask "do you like the list of proscription or the dictature" it is
> not a plurium interrogationum nor a trap nor a personnal attack.
>
> Because of course he is not the historical Sulla which did. He can say "I
> do not". He (NRSulla) is not the man which drew up the lists of
> proscription of the historical Sulla nor the man which get the dictature
> by violence.
>
> So my question was if you choose this name, (warning: not only the
> cognomen Sulla), all the names Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, why is the
> motivation of a such choice? It is, in my opinion, more than a single
> choice of names.
>
> In the answer that he wrote, our NR Sulla assumes to honour the real and
> historical Sulla. So, as Titus Flavius Aquila pointed out now we know why
> Sulla choose this name.
>
> By honouring a detestable dictator.
>
> For me all is said.
>
> Vale.
> C. Petronius Dexter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@...> wrote:
>
> P. Corva G. Equitio Catoni Gualtero Graeco omnesque s.p.d.
>
> I would love to write for this journal. Unfortunately, about the only Roman topic in which I have any vague degree of knowledge is medicine--things like medical practices, surgical instruments, medicines, etc. Those have probably all been covered by much more qualified people than I, before.
>
> What level of academic skill do you want from the authors? Are you seeking scholarly articles, or are articles by knowledgeable amateurs wanted?
>
> I would like to see some professional-level articles, but I wouldn't want skilled amateurs to be excluded.
>
> P. Corva
>

> Yes, I understand this. I really don't care how Maior juggles the two. My point is that - and I'm going to be very blunt - Petronius Dexter is obviously fishing for me to say something that will be used to cry "blasphemy!" against me - to get me to "defame" the religio in public. He very specifically asks for my "personal" views, as opposed to asking what Christianity itself teaches.

>> Your baiting of Cato says otherwise. It has become clear that you're just wanting to stir up trouble. And of course, Christian Cato and Lawsuit Sulla are easy targets, aren't they?

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@...> wrote:
>
> P. Corva G. Equitio Catoni Gualtero Graeco omnesque s.p.d.
>
> I would love to write for this journal. Unfortunately, about the only Roman topic in which I have any vague degree of knowledge is medicine--things like medical practices, surgical instruments, medicines, etc. Those have probably all been covered by much more qualified people than I, before.
>
> What level of academic skill do you want from the authors? Are you seeking scholarly articles, or are articles by knowledgeable amateurs wanted?
>
> I would like to see some professional-level articles, but I wouldn't want skilled amateurs to be excluded.
>
> P. Corva
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Petronius Dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> C. Petronius C. Catoni s.p.d.,
>

> American people are very strange with the truth, the good faith, the sincerity. Do you see judges evrywhere to dissimulate what you trully think? What power do I have to be against you?
>
> Let me know if you need two boards and three nails to make your kitcross.
>
>
> Vale
> C. Petronius Dexter
>

> "RELIGIO ROMANA BLASPHEMY DECRETUM

> C. Petronius C. Catoni s.p.d.,
>
>> Yes, I understand this. I really don't care how Maior juggles the two.
>> My point is that - and I'm going to be very blunt - Petronius Dexter is
>> obviously fishing for me to say something that will be used to cry
>> "blasphemy!" against me - to get me to "defame" the religio in public.
>> He very specifically asks for my "personal" views, as opposed to asking
>> what Christianity itself teaches.
>
> Blasphemy? For doing a blasphem you must have a dogma which say that is a
> blasphem and that is not. The cultus deorum does not have dogma. Show me a
> pagan text in which something against gods is said blasphemy. The Iliad is
> full of those sort of things. Often Homer should be juged as blasphemator
> when he describes domestic rows between gods.
>
> I just show the inconsequence, in my opinion, between the christian faith,
> through the epistles of Paul, and the cult of the idols, so when I read
> you thinking Ceres offended by Maior, I wanted to know your own point of
> view about that.
>
> But you can refuse to answer and you can think that I am fishing you. I
> wonder why you fear (except the worst) my questions. I did not even ask
> your point of view in rapport with the status of magistrate or senator
> position, it is you that turned my question into this direction with a
> quote of a law.
>
> American people are very strange with the truth, the good faith, the
> sincerity. Do you see judges evrywhere to dissimulate what you trully
> think? What power do I have to be against you?
>
> Let me know if you need two boards and three nails to make your kitcross.
>
>
> Vale
> C. Petronius Dexter
>
>

> Petronius Dexter, I will give you one small piece of advice.
> Rule #1 during any debate is: "Never ask a question that you do not already know the answer to."

> You call yourself a scholar?

>> Certainly one must never have read ancient

>> You call yourself a scholar?
>
> Not at all.

> So I had no intention to cry: Blasphemy! against Cato.

> C. Petronius C. Valerio s.p.d.,
>
>> You call yourself a scholar?
>
> Not at all.
>
>>> Certainly one must never have read ancient
> texts to not know that the gods can and do get angry and punish, both for
> things said and things done. These are enlightened by, among the many
> examples, of Arachne and Tantalus respectively.<<
>
> I know that gods punish sacrileges, they do not need a blasphem decretum.
> We have the historical example of Q. Fulvius Flaccus, censor and pontiff,
> in Titus Livius. In this example, the magistrates of Rome did not punish
> Flaccus but gods made him mad.
>
> So I had no intention to cry: Blasphemy! against Cato.
>
> Vale.
> C. Petronius Dexter
>
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Aqvillivs Rota <c.aqvillivs_rota@...> wrote:
>
> Salve honored praetor,
>
>  guess coming after some is better than using someone as stool!!!
>
> At least if you judge the written words. I guess you agree with that, don't you?
>
> And I think the addressee is happy about a more fun kind of posting as they stated it themselves
> in the messages below. I guess you agree with that too.
>
> And finally it is not your legitimation to turn around and interpret my words when I say that I have latin roman blood in me. You
> simply do not now my opinion about who should be in NR and who not. Because I never shared this opinion online.
> I guess also here you srely agree.
>
> With respect, your answer could be seen as arrogance, which I do not believe you are !
>
> With all this said, I respect your appeal for moderation !
>
> A.R
>
> P.S.: please note the fact that I responded to one of the accused "I would only use movie blood". What does that tell you? Doesn't it sound like A Back Ally exchange?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Diana Octavia Aventina <roman.babe@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:22:28 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Threats of physical harm?
>
>
>
>
>
> Salvete good Praetores,
> Salvete fellow citizens,
>
> <If you would be closer to me.... I would come after you in real life and
> the Roman Way believe me by my real Roman blood !!!
>
> I am a bit troubled by Rota's posts. I think that this person is threatening
> his fellow Nova Romans citizens with physical harm. Plus this person has
> stated more than once about his/her real Roman blood which implies that Nova
> Roma is solely for those of Roman blood.
>
> Valete,
> Diana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aqvillivs Rota" <c.aqvillivs_ rota@yahoo. com>
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Attn: Plebeian Citizens of Nova Roma Take Note
>
> Be glad you guys it is all on the web,
>
> If you would be closer to me.... I would come after you in real life and the
> Roman Way believe me by my real Roman blood !!!
>
> Rota
>

A.  Tullia Scholastica Ciceroni quiritibusque bonae voluntatis S.D.

 

   As I said earlier, who said it had?  Quite independent of the maintenance, unmoderated posts are landing in the spam dump, and not only on the ML.  

    This is not a lie about moderation.  It’s a fact.  It happens often enough.  

Vale.
  

Not true. The maintenance hadn't started when these events took place.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> , "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...> wrote:
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica omnibus S.P.D.
>
>     For those who missed this, Yahoo is moving to a new system, and is doing
> maintenance on all groups today.  Posts have been appearing out of sequence,
> and unmoderated people have ended up on moderation.  Several of TGP’s posts
> have ended in the spam dump, which means they have to be rescued and
> approved by someone.  There is nothing insidious about this; it happens
> periodically.  Similar problems occur with a separate, apparently
> unmoderated, reenactors’ list of which I am a member.  Paranoia is a mental
> disease, and it would be wise to consider cyber problems before coming to
> the conclusion that the censor is moderated by anything but a cyber glitch.
> The same may be true of other ML members.
>
>     Of course, if you would prefer, we can simply leave the posts in the
> spam dump...
>
> Valete.
>

  

  A. Tullia Scholastica Potito quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.D.

  

Once again, Scholastica has shown herself to be a true member of the Praetorial staff.
 
It is TRUE that Yahoo is doing maintenance today. You will find a link to the notice at the top of any group. However,
 
It is NOT TRUE, that this has any effect on anything that has happened today so far. The notice from Yahoo is clear: the maintenance will begin at 8:00 PM GMT, which is 1:00 PM PDT. It’s not even 7:00 AM PDT yet.

    ATS:  Who said Yahoo had started maintenance?  Even nearly-grammarless English has verb tenses, and remnants of verbal moods.  Is conducting does not mean has conducted, or had conducted.  It was a warning for those who may have missed this as some messages are not arriving, and, given that those who have nothing better to do have so much time on their hands that they can write dozens of messages daily, sheer volume has made it difficult for some to locate the important messages.  
 
Furthermore, Yahoo says the downtime will last only 30 to 60 minutes.

    ATS:  If you will kindly control your emotions, as do normal adults, and read carefully, you will see that I did not say that the maintenance had yet started; I said it would occur today, and that messages already were coming out of sequence, and landing in the spam dump even though the victims were unmoderated, as, for example, TGP is.  These problems occurred Sunday, and have occurred even earlier, BEFORE the scheduled maintenance.  

    Even without scheduled or other maintenance, Yahoo posts do come out of sequence, and innocent ones land in the spam dump.  Some never arrive, or arrive weeks later.  Moreover, they are moving to a new system, and have been having unexpected problems.  You might care to note that the time conversion was incorrect due to summer time.

   
 
Potitus

Vale, et valete.  
 

---

From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of A. Tullia Scholastica
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:01 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Yahoo and moderation issues






A. Tullia Scholastica omnibus S.P.D.

    For those who missed this, Yahoo is moving to a new system, and is doing maintenance on all groups today.  Posts have been appearing out of sequence, and unmoderated people have ended up on moderation.  Several of TGP’s posts have ended in the spam dump, which means they have to be rescued and approved by someone.  There is nothing insidious about this; it happens periodically.  Similar problems occur with a separate, apparently unmoderated, reenactors’ list of which I am a member.  Paranoia is a mental disease, and it would be wise to consider cyber problems before coming to the conclusion that the censor is moderated by anything but a cyber glitch.  The same may be true of other ML members.  

    Of course, if you would prefer, we can simply leave the posts in the spam dump...

Valete.  
  
    

> You think the main list is Nova Roma's best face forward?!
>
> [...] Most moderators I've dealt with would not have tolerated the name-calling and darn-near slander I've seen many times here. [...]
> Try to moderate it, the way you would _any other_ mailing list? Here, that's condemned as censorship.
> [...]
> That sounds like a _great_ recruiting tactic. All that does is encourage people who are just as argumentive as the current members are, to join.
> [...]
> I really think that if we concentrated less on writing laws and more on actually studying Roman culture and getting to know each other as people, instead of as future prospective lawmakers, we'd be a lot happier with each other and more productive in general. There would be less of a sense of power-play.
>
> Erm--Sorry for the rant, but this has been my Big Peeve ever since joining.
>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Matt Hucke wrote:
>
> [excision]
>
> It's about as relevant as "Windows vs. Mac" or "Pepsi vs Coke".
>
> Octavius.
>

Quite right; it's like pitting a GMC pickup truck against a Jaguar
grand touring sedan or Coors Light against a 25 year old Single Malt
from Laphroaig.

=)

Venii

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Titus Flavius Aquila <titus.aquila@...> wrote:
>
> Cicero,
>
> it is allright , you are doing a good job for your buddies, indeed.
>
> Aquila
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Lucius Cornelius Cicero <Cicero@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 15:59:52 Uhr
> Betreff: [Nova-Roma] Re: Attn: Plebeian Citizens of Nova Roma Take Note
>
>
>
>
>
> Nobody was insulting Plebeians. What is insulting is that you think they are stupid enough to fall for such cheap tactics. The comments pasted out of context obviously are not actual insults to plebeians at all. You know this, and the others who've feigned outrage at the comments know it too. This sort of dishonesty is truly disgusting and unbecoming of anyone who claims to be a supporter of Roman values.
>
> It's you who are treating Nova Roma as a roleplaying game. The situation between plebeians and patricians in Nova Roma is nothing like it was in ancient Rome. For most intents and purposes there is no in Nova Roma no difference at all between plebeians and patricians. Plebs do not today, as in the joke from the BA, clean patricians' atrium pools. That's because nobody has atrium pools, and because plebeians are not second-class citizens. There is no class difference. So there can be no class conflict. If you think there can be, as you intimate with your posts, then YOU are the roleplayer.
>
> Cicero
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com, Titus Flavius Aquila <titus.aquila@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Plebeians supporting patricians insulting us Plebeians... .that´s pitiful, Plebians take note. I will.
> >
> > Where are the Tribunes of the Plebeians we have elected ? Take a stand ! I as Tribune of the Plebeians would
> > have answered for sure.
> >
> > Valete
> > Titus Flavius Aquila
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > Von: Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius. poplicola@ ...>
> > An: Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com
> > Gesendet: Montag, den 13.. April 2009, 03:09:27 Uhr
> > Betreff: Re: [Nova-Roma] RE: Attn: Plebeian Citizens of Nova Roma Take Note
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For the record:
> >
> > I am also a plebeian. Three distinguished plebeians of Nova Roma have come
> > out to shut down Aquila's lies. Anyone else dare to try to call us patrician
> > conspirators again?
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Titus Flavius Aquila <titus.aquila@...> wrote:
>
> The whole purpose of the Back Alley is disrespect, insults, purging,  self-aggrandizem ent , and hogwallow in an unmoderated forum. 
>
> As stated by Fl.Galerius Auelianus and I fully agree.
>
> Vale
> Titus Flavius Aquila
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Matt Hucke <hucke@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 18:29:48 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Nova-Roma] Back Alley
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > T.Flavius Aquila Fl.Galerius Aureliano sal.
> >
> > The whole purpose of the Back Alley is disrespect, insults, purging,  self-aggrandizem ent , and hogwallow in an unmoderated forum. 
>
> Based on your experience subscribing to it for, what, three days?
>
> This main list is equally filled with disrespect, insults, self-aggrandizement .
> The only diffference is the level of respect shown for various pointy hats - and,
> of course, the lack of prior restraint on free speech.
>
> And what's this "purging"? Who has been purged?
>
> The back alley is also filled with friendship, cooperation, and constructive seeking
> and giving of advice. You must have missed that in your three days there.
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> hucke@cynico. net - http://www.graveyar ds.com
>
> It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the Leaf of China
> that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes
> a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
>

  A. Tullia Scholastica Flaviae Lucillae Merulae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.D.

  



On 4/12/09, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...> wrote:

 

    ATS:   Certain parties stirred up the crowd which lacks self-control and likes it that way, so the lex did not pass. 

I am an ordinary citizen of Nova Roma and have been since about 2002. I find it highly insulting to be referred to as part of a crowd which 'lacks self-control'. Believe me, when I vote for or against a lex, it's done after a lot of thought and in complete control whether or not this happens to agree with your thoughts.

    ATS2:  Somehow I don’t see anything in this statement which indicates either 1) that all who voted against this [or any other] law lacked self-control, or that 2) you were included in that category.  I would like to think that all of us think carefully about voting for or against our leges, but as is very evident from the behavior on this and other lists at present and in the past, some do in fact both vote and post in response highly irrational impulses.  Some are more susceptible to this than others.  Some moreover cannot tolerate any external control on their behavior, and will always vote against it when offered that opportunity, or protest against it when that is impossible.  You, and perhaps those with whom you share(d) your views know your reasoning; if the shoe fits, wear it; if not, perhaps a different one more to your liking is more suitable.  If you weigh the pros and cons when you vote on a law or a candidate, you are to be commended, but in reality, not all do, either here or in the macro world.

Flavia Lucilla Merula

Vale, et valete.  


  
    

A. Tullia Scholastica C. Mariae Caecae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

    Excavated before this gets buried any more deeply...
  

  

Salvete Omnes,

Excuse me, but I wasn't aware that I had *lost* my main list.  So far as I can tell, it's still here, and it's still mine (and everyone else's, equally), so I'm just a bit confused.  If I post something, and someone doesn't like it and takes issue with me, I can either explain myself or return the favor.

Now, I will agree that this list has become nearly moribund,

    ATS:  It really isn’t, but it happens that some of us have other, more urgent, things to do, while some are away on vacation at present.  


and that grieves me, because we shouldn't have to resort to a private list to have active, creative, productive discussions about NR, about how it should be run, about new projects, about things that matter, things that brought us here in the first place.  So ... why is this happening?  Yes yes, I know what some will say, and they may be right, but having seen some extremely passionate and even virulent debate here, I'm not altogether convinced of that.  So what is it?  I don't claim to know, but I would very *much* like to see this list become more active in a real, creative, down to earth and constructive way, rather than remain quiescent until someone drops a bombshell and everyone reacts.

So ... here's a respectful question for the Praetors.  Why are new people moderated for 6 months?

    ATS:  This is a general guideline, but normally combined with posting history; at best, it not just a chronological requirement or a hard and fast one. Typically a fair number of meaningful and acceptable posts is required; if this is met before the time is up, then the person may be taken off moderation. Some new members last only a matter of minutes or hours or days, and there are other cases where a member lurks for months, even years, then bursts forth with absolute nonsense, as occurred in one of our sodalities.  It may also be of interest to note that the majority of ML members are not Roman citizens, and conversely, many citizens do not belong to the ML.  

 I do realize that initial moderation is necessary, especially on a high volume list, to provide another layer of safeguards from SPAMMers and worse, and I also realize that many new members choose to remain quiet for a time, to get to know the environment, as did I,

    ATS:  And as one should...


 but ... wouldn't 2 or 3 months (at the very most) enable the Praetors and their cohors to determine whether a new member is "safe"?

    ATS:  Not if the person does not post at all, or posts only insignificant trivia such as ‘I agree’ or ‘hi there.’  Conversely, some post inflammatory epistles, such as we have seen over the last few days, and this does not enhance magisterial disposition to remove them from moderation.   Overall, the best policy is to combine a posting history with some minimum duration (typically two to six months) so that ten or 20 posts in a few days would not suffice, especially if all on one topic.  Those who are experienced in such matters become fairly talented at determining when someone may be released from moderation; that does not mean that mistakes are not made, or that some are unmoderated prematurely while others are perhaps moderated too long, especially when a list is as large as the ML is, but it is a good guideline.  Wholesale unmoderation without a posting history is a recipe for trouble; we saw that somewhat recently when a member (non-citizen, if memory serves) was unmoderated with no history, and subsequently posted inappropriately.  Moderation catches some other improprieties, even from sources one does not expect.

Valete Bene
C. Maria Caeca
 
    Vale bene.  

>
> Cato Cato Cato,
>
> you always feel easily hunted,surrounded by people who try to trap you, do you, they are all trying to put you on the lime-twig ?
> But it is fine to insult the Plebeians .....
>
> O tempora, o mores !
>
> Vale
> Titus Flavius Aquila
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 18:58:10 Uhr
> Betreff: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cives take back the Main List
>
>
>
>
>
> Cato Gualtero Graeco sal.
>
> Salve.
>
> Yes, I understand this. I really don't care how Maior juggles the two. My point is that - and I'm going to be very blunt - Petronius Dexter is obviously fishing for me to say something that will be used to cry "blasphemy!" against me - to get me to "defame" the religio in public. He very specifically asks for my "personal" views, as opposed to asking what Christianity itself teaches.
>
> I am asking that if my personal religious views are relevant to my service to the res publica, then everyone - especially those who serve as religious representatives of the People - should be held to the same question.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > > But...if you are not satisfied with our law, I would ask you to perhaps also direct this question to M. Hortensia Maior, as she has publicly and repeatedly identified herself as a Jew - and yet is a flaminica Carmentalis and a sacerdos Mentis? Let's see how she answers in response to
> >
> > Cato, Cato, Cato... I think we all know that "Jew" is a multivalent term, ranging from a spectrum of religious beliefs to certain culture and ethnic associations.
> >
> > Plus, based on my personal exchanges with her, it seems pretty clear to me that she is not a monotheistic Yahwist.
> >
> > -Gualterus
> >
>

> Ecaastor!
> I've missed this one. I will explain how Maior, the Jewish Nova Roman
> [calling someone a 'Jew' is bad form, don't do it] 'juggles the two.'
> I'm ethnically Jewish, I am a devotee of the Religio Romana, and a
> polytheist and among the gods is Yahweh, a kind of local Judaean Juppiter
> whom I honour as he is part of my family's inherited cultus.
> It's all very Roman. I took to as my ideal Philo's nephew Tiberius Julius
> Alexander a Romanized Judaean.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Julius_Alexander
>
> The idea that the ancient Judaeans were stolid monotheists is ahistorical
> and silly. Neither were the early Christians. I'm fine with liberal
> syncretic Christians in Nova Roma; it's very Roman.
>
> I assume Dexter was concerned about the very monotheist Cato. Cato wonders
> how I juggle the two. I thoroughly explained. Cato how do you; a devout
> Monotheist juggle the two?
> bene valete in pacem deorum
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>>
>> Cato Cato Cato,
>>
>> you always feel easily hunted,surrounded by people who try to trap you,
>> do you, they are all trying to put you on the lime-twig ?
>> But it is fine to insult the Plebeians .....
>>
>> O tempora, o mores !
>>
>> Vale
>> Titus Flavius Aquila
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Von: Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...>
>> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 18:58:10 Uhr
>> Betreff: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cives take back the Main List
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cato Gualtero Graeco sal.
>>
>> Salve.
>>
>> Yes, I understand this. I really don't care how Maior juggles the two. My
>> point is that - and I'm going to be very blunt - Petronius Dexter is
>> obviously fishing for me to say something that will be used to cry
>> "blasphemy!" against me - to get me to "defame" the religio in public. He
>> very specifically asks for my "personal" views, as opposed to asking what
>> Christianity itself teaches.
>>
>> I am asking that if my personal religious views are relevant to my
>> service to the res publica, then everyone - especially those who serve as
>> religious representatives of the People - should be held to the same
>> question.
>>
>> Vale,
>>
>> Cato
>>
>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@ > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Salve,
>> >
>> > > But...if you are not satisfied with our law, I would ask you to
>> > > perhaps also direct this question to M. Hortensia Maior, as she has
>> > > publicly and repeatedly identified herself as a Jew - and yet is a
>> > > flaminica Carmentalis and a sacerdos Mentis? Let's see how she
>> > > answers in response to
>> >
>> > Cato, Cato, Cato... I think we all know that "Jew" is a multivalent
>> > term, ranging from a spectrum of religious beliefs to certain culture
>> > and ethnic associations.
>> >
>> > Plus, based on my personal exchanges with her, it seems pretty clear to
>> > me that she is not a monotheistic Yahwist.
>> >
>> > -Gualterus
>> >
>>
>
>
>

>
> Salvete M. Hortensia Maior
> I have two suggestions I had read out of a book once. Foccasia Romana bread, which is basicly Foccasia bread with rosemary and olive oil. Another one I had read I can't remember the title of but it was basicly a beef roast cut into thin slices fried in olive oil and rosemary in a pan, then the juices are mixed with some wine, and let simmer then poured back over the meat. I cooked it once and it was very delicious. It was a few years ago so there might have been more to it but i'm pritty sure that was all it was lol.
> Lucius Julius Caesar
>
>
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: rory12001@...
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:49:45 +0000
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman cookery
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> M. Hortensia omnnibus spd;
> I'd like to celebrate the Cerealia with a Roman dinner. Any suggestions about what I should make?
> optime valete
> M. Hortensia Maior
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> Why not consult the archives of the cooking list. Or ask there at least. Too much gets piled up here while other lists NR languish.
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> --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Maior <rory12001@...> wrote:
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> From: Maior <rory12001@...>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman cookery
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 12:49 AM
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> M. Hortensia omnnibus spd;
> I'd like to celebrate the Cerealia with a Roman dinner. Any suggestions about what I should make?
> optime valete
> M. Hortensia Maior
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Maior <rory12001@...> wrote:
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> Salvete Quirites;
> since Ti. Aquila asked me here is a short list of the Back Alley players:
> L. Cornelius Sulla
> G. Equitius Cato
> Q. Fabius Maximus
> Gn. Iulius Caesar
> Q. Valerius Poplicola
> Metellus
> Corucanius Cato
> L. Cornelius Cicero
> both censor:G. Popillius Laena and Ti.Galerius Paulinus
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> Basically if Julia Aquila posts, Titus Aquila or Dexter or I or any non-BA
> civis, they tag-team, replying to you first and arguing, then the next one
> takes you on. So there is no relief. It is a bullying force to shut you up.
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> It seems like the entire ML is against you, but really it is just a few,
> what 10 citizens maybe 13, trying to bully the cives.
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> Of course bullies are essentially cowards, which is why they need to do it
> in a group. So just ignore them when they reply to a post.
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> They'll go away when they find it dull. Just don't feed the nonsense.
> optime vale
> M. Hortensia Maior
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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "David .C" <vegeto1988@...> wrote:
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> Salvete M. Hortensia Maior
> I have two suggestions I had read out of a book once. Foccasia Romana bread, which is basicly Foccasia bread with rosemary and olive oil. Another one I had read I can't remember the title of but it was basicly a beef roast cut into thin slices fried in olive oil and rosemary in a pan, then the juices are mixed with some wine, and let simmer then poured back over the meat. I cooked it once and it was very delicious. It was a few years ago so there might have been more to it but i'm pritty sure that was all it was lol.
> Lucius Julius Caesar
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> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: rory12001@...
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:49:45 +0000
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman cookery
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> M. Hortensia omnnibus spd;
> I'd like to celebrate the Cerealia with a Roman dinner. Any suggestions about what I should make?
> optime valete
> M. Hortensia Maior
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> A very exciting idea Gaulterus! I wish you all the best, and of course should you ever have need of willing hands/eyes I am at your service.
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> T. Annæus Regulus
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> From: gualterus_graecus
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:50 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Something Different!!
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> Salve Corva,
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> I completely agree with regard to what NR *should* be doing. Perhaps this wasn't the best time, though, to make my post since I fear it probably got buried in everyone's mailbox amid the flame wars going back and forth.
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> I'm still examining the financial feasibility and part of that is to see how much actual demand there is, so the more people that respond to the poll running on the BA the better (it's running there because it's not an "official" NR project).
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> Getting article submissions--good scholarly material--will be another issue. I can write some of them, but I can't do it all!
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> Your offer to volunteer is very much appreciated! I will remember it once it gets to that stage of the operation where submissions are coming in and being being selected.
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> Vale,
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> Gualterus
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> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@> wrote:
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> > P. Corva Gualtero Graeco s.p.d.
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> > I would love to see a journal like this, if well done. I think this is the sort of thing Nova Roma _should_ be doing. It is a good, solid goal that can be accomplished in a relatively short time and kept going.
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> > If it is published in English, and if you need a proofreader or copy editor for it, I hereby volunteer.
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> > Paulla Corva
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> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
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> > > Please forgive me, but I'm in troll mode atm!
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> > > There's a new list poll on the BA, "How much would you be willing to pay for a subscription to a biannual journal dealing with classical/ancient reconstructionism?"
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> Salve Maior
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> Here is a nice dish. I use Hard bolled eggs ( number up to you) and not
> poached
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> Very nice
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> Vale
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> Paulinus
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> From the Archives of the Sodalis_Coq_et_Coq · Talk of food, drink, dining
> & merriment
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> Regi Dean's Recipes Recipe: Pine Nut Sauce for Eggs (Apici Category:
> Condiments Author: 5/4/00 Pine Nut Sauce for Eggs (Apicius 329) In ovis
> apalis: Piper, ligusticum, nucleos infusos. Suffundis mel, acetum,
> liquamine temperabis. Ingredients 4 poached eggs 2oz Pine Nuts 3 Tbs wine
> vinegar 1 tsp Honey pinch of pepper pinch of lovage Soak the pine nuts 3-4
> hours beforehand in vinegar. Then mix all the sauce ingredients thoroughly
> in a blender. Cook the eggs by poaching in water with a little vinegar
> when ready serve individually on a plate and pour the sauce over. Taken
> and adapted from "A taste of Ancient Rome" by Ilaria Gozzini Giacosa
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> M. Hortensia omnnibus spd;
> I'd like to celebrate the Cerealia with a Roman dinner. Any suggestions
> about what I should make?
> optime valete
> M. Hortensia Maior
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> Did the Romans have beer or any kind of fermented grain drink, or just wine? Some kind of homemade brew might be appropriate for Cerealia, I should think, unless it's totally ahistorical. Making a small batch of beer is not that hard. (Making it good is another story.)
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> Valete
> M. Cor. Dexter
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> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "David .C" <vegeto1988@> wrote:
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> > Salvete M. Hortensia Maior
> > I have two suggestions I had read out of a book once. Foccasia Romana bread, which is basicly Foccasia bread with rosemary and olive oil. Another one I had read I can't remember the title of but it was basicly a beef roast cut into thin slices fried in olive oil and rosemary in a pan, then the juices are mixed with some wine, and let simmer then poured back over the meat. I cooked it once and it was very delicious. It was a few years ago so there might have been more to it but i'm pritty sure that was all it was lol.
> > Lucius Julius Caesar
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> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > From: rory12001@
> > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:49:45 +0000
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman cookery
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> > M. Hortensia omnnibus spd;
> > I'd like to celebrate the Cerealia with a Roman dinner. Any suggestions about what I should make?
> > optime valete
> > M. Hortensia Maior
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On 4/13/09, Kristoffer From <from@...> wrote:

When tempers flare, moderate. Nobody should be exempt - not even
magistrates or candidates for office. Moderate even the offended party
for a couple of days, just to be sure retaliation doesn't follow. End
threads which have gone astray

Sorry but there's absolutely no way I would want to be part of such a draconian list. Threads go astray all the time on all lists I've ever been on.  Frankly conversations with my friends go astray all the time, that's what makes us friends instead of just people conversing on one topic.

And as for the idea of moderating the offended party - that is so open to abuse. Just imagine it - candidate A is standing for office, I'm a friend of candidate B so I rant and lose my temper with A. He's innocent but we're both moderated.  I've done my job, I've hampered the opposition. How fair is that?

Flavia Lucilla Merula

> Sorry but there's absolutely no way I would want to be part of such a
> draconian list. Threads go astray all the time on all lists I've ever been
> on. Frankly conversations with my friends go astray all the time, that's
> what makes us friends instead of just people conversing on one topic.
>

> And as for the idea of moderating the offended party - that is so open to
> abuse. Just imagine it - candidate A is standing for office, I'm a friend of
> candidate B so I rant and lose my temper with A. He's innocent but we're
> both moderated. I've done my job, I've hampered the opposition. How fair is
> that?
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> And both of you
> would have the option of appealing to the tribunes for an intercessio.

> Why isn't that option available now?
>