Well, if you had read Agrippa's post yourself, you would have known that
Kristoffer is mistaken. Taken DIRECTLY from Agrippa's post is:

"The charge of treason cannot be applied to the exercise of a constitutional
right, namely an application to state authorities to force a vote. Knowing
that Marinus failed to abide by the requirement of Section II.C of the PARS
PRIMA: DE PETITIONE ACTIONIS, Lex Salicia iudiciaria where if the claim is
unsupported by law he should have dismissed the petitio. Cato exercised the
right of access to law and that access is supported by the Nova Roman
constitution and the lex. No implied right can overcome the constitution of
Nova Roma and no by-law of a corporation registered in the USA can overcome
State law and the Constitution of the USA."

Quite clearly he *DID* reference the laws the intercessio is based on. What
lie? What lie now? The intercessio remains valid. Its pathetic that a
non-citizen is trying to meddle with the sacrosanctity of a tribune by
misrepresenting his email.

(all caps signify italics/emphasis except where the law is quoted)

Vale.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:24 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Intercessio

> Certainly there will now be thousands of e-mails stating UP HOLD the
> law...
> the tribunes need to follow Lex Didia Gemina!
>
> Come on Sulla, Cato, Caesar, and others. Lets up hold the law! Do we
> need
> to call the Governor of Maine or maybe his second cousin or something?
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Kristoffer From <from@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa wrote:
>> > I pronounce intercessio against the actions of Praetor Gnaeus
>> > Equitius Marinus in accepting the petitio against Senator Gaius
>> > Equitius Cato.
>>
>> Salvete, omnes.
>>
>> This intercessio is invalid and hence holds no power as it fails to
>> adhere to the Lex Didia Gemina de potestate tribunicia, which
>> establishes a procedure that must be followed for an intercessio to be
>> valid.
>>
>> Paragraph II.A of the Lex Didia Gemina states, in part:
>>
>> "A. Since the Ius Auxili Ferendi is a fundamental prerogative of a
>> Tribunus Plebis as set forth in IV. 7. A of our Constitutio, in order
>> for an act of intercessio to be valid the following procedure must be
>> followed whether it is requested by a citizen or performed in his
>> official capacity.
>>
>> 1. When a Tribunus Plebis issues an intercessio, it must include the
>> following elements in a reasoned exposition in which the Tribunus shall
>> note whether the auxilium was requested or ex-officio:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> c. The article(s) of the Constitution or the leges violated by the
>> magistrate's act(s).
>>
>> 2. If the intercessio of a Tribunus Plebis does not include these three
>> elements, the intercessio shall be invalid. The time constraints of the
>> Lex Labiena de Intercessione shall continue to hold such that, if a new
>> intercessio is not issued before the seventy-two hour limit, counted
>> from the act(s) which occasioned the original intercessio, the Tribunus
>> Plebis shall issue no new intercessio pertaining to that act or those
>> acts.
>>
>> [...]"
>>
>> This text is exceedingly clear as is its relevance to the current case.
>>
>> Tribune Agrippa makes no reference to any article of the constitution,
>> which II.A.1.c requires him to make. This makes, according to II.A.1 and
>> II.A.2, the intercessio invalid and without the force of law.
>>
>> Vale, Pius.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

I have seen the financial documents.  Looks good to me, she has done an admirable job.  When she did the filings for our corporate status she posted such in the senate... oh, maybe that was when Cato took his year and a half break from Nova Roma.  Could be... but now that he has access to the senate list again he can go through the archives.  I'm not sure what he is looking for.  It's certainly not financial because those are posted to the senate and on the website.  He wants to know about corporate filings (I believe), and those have been done and if memory serves me correctly (which it sometimes does not), she posted such in the senate.  So what does he want?  A receipt of some sort? 

What sickens me is when someone like our CFO gets attacked unjustly.  She does good work, and is a professional.

When you crap on people who do good work, don't expect them to come running to you whenever you ask for it. 

First Nova Roma was a "republic."  Now are just another "corporation."  A corporation with volunteers.  Rule to live by... don't crap on your  volunteers.  It's a bad thing m'kay.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

Where do you see either Cato or Sulla acting as authority? They simply
relate American law. Please don't fall into this trap, Modiane, of ignoring
people because of political differences. The law (American law, not Cato's
or Sulla's) is the law, and Laeca is quite simply ignoring the law.

What harm would it be to actually release financial documents to a Board of
Director instead of pouting because "he's a meanie poopy head". Laeca is
acting like a damn child, but this isn't a game. It's a gods-damned
corporation! When people quit pretending that it's a game AND DO YOUR
F*$%ING JOB, then we'll be better off.

It sickens me this attitude. "I don't like him, therefore any laws he cites
MUST be worth ignoring." It was bad 2060 years ago, it's bad today.
Continuing on this path will *kill* NR. When will people wake up and realize
this partisanship only harms?

Vale.

Cato Equestriae Iuniae Laecae omnibusque in foro SPD

Salve et salvete.

Equestria Iunia Laeca, in accordance with the governing act of the State of Maine under which we are incorporated, Title 13-B Section 715.1, I, as a member of the corporation and a member of the Board of Directors of the corporation, once *again* request notarized copies of any and all documentation regarding compliance with Federal and State agencies with regard to solicitation of funds on the behalf of Nova Roma, Inc. specifically, but not limited to, the Magna Mater Project.

Please send them by registered mail. You should have my address in New York City to which they may be sent, but if you do not, I will supply you with it. Please include a copy of the receipt for any expenses incurred; the original request was made over 5 business days ago, and so legally the costs of these copies are now the responsibility of the corporation, but I am willing to waive the corporation's financial obligation in the interests of receiving them in a timely manner, that is, within 5 business days of this writing. I will personally reimburse you by whatever means you may find most accommodating.

Vale et valete,

G. Equitius Cato
Praetoris
Senator

> I have seen the financial documents.

Because some directors are more equal than others.

> First Nova Roma was a "republic." Now are just another "corporation." A
> corporation with volunteers. Rule to live by... don't crap on your
> volunteers.

*cough* *cough* cincinnatus *cough*

--
Matt Hucke (hucke@...), programmer.
author, Graveyards of Illinois - http://www.graveyards.com/
CYNICO.NET - hosting from $8.33/month; domains $13 - http://cynico.net/

Cato Modiano sal.

Salve.

Rule to live by: don't incorporate if you don't intend to obey the law m'kay?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> I have seen the financial documents. Looks good to me, she has done an
> admirable job. When she did the filings for our corporate status she posted
> such in the senate... oh, maybe that was when Cato took his year and a half
> break from Nova Roma. Could be... but now that he has access to the senate
> list again he can go through the archives. I'm not sure what he is looking
> for. It's certainly not financial because those are posted to the senate
> and on the website. He wants to know about corporate filings (I believe),
> and those have been done and if memory serves me correctly (which it
> sometimes does not), she posted such in the senate. So what does he want?
> A receipt of some sort?
>
> What sickens me is when someone like our CFO gets attacked unjustly. She
> does good work, and is a professional.
>
> When you crap on people who do good work, don't expect them to come running
> to you whenever you ask for it.
>
> First Nova Roma was a "republic." Now are just another "corporation." A
> corporation with volunteers. Rule to live by... don't crap on your
> volunteers. It's a bad thing m'kay.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

Modiane,

Sorry, but statements that are tantamount to flouting the law will get
called on no matter the person. If you are correct, and the files are on the
Senate, *all she had to do was tell him where he could find them*. Instead,
we get what's typical of a growing faction of law-flouters. Telling anyone
they don't like to fuck off without any regard to the consequences.

And for the record, I have always maintained that we are a corporation.
Perhaps one day we can be more, but right now thinking otherwise is no
different than Dungeons and Dragons. Pure imagination.

Vale.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:33 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> I have seen the financial documents. Looks good to me, she has done an
> admirable job. When she did the filings for our corporate status she
> posted
> such in the senate... oh, maybe that was when Cato took his year and a
> half
> break from Nova Roma. Could be... but now that he has access to the
> senate
> list again he can go through the archives. I'm not sure what he is
> looking
> for. It's certainly not financial because those are posted to the senate
> and on the website. He wants to know about corporate filings (I believe),
> and those have been done and if memory serves me correctly (which it
> sometimes does not), she posted such in the senate. So what does he want?
> A receipt of some sort?
>
> What sickens me is when someone like our CFO gets attacked unjustly. She
> does good work, and is a professional.
>
> When you crap on people who do good work, don't expect them to come
> running
> to you whenever you ask for it.
>
> First Nova Roma was a "republic." Now are just another "corporation." A
> corporation with volunteers. Rule to live by... don't crap on your
> volunteers. It's a bad thing m'kay.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
> q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Where do you see either Cato or Sulla acting as authority? They simply
>> relate American law. Please don't fall into this trap, Modiane, of
>> ignoring
>>
>> people because of political differences. The law (American law, not
>> Cato's
>> or Sulla's) is the law, and Laeca is quite simply ignoring the law.
>>
>> What harm would it be to actually release financial documents to a Board
>> of
>>
>> Director instead of pouting because "he's a meanie poopy head". Laeca is
>> acting like a damn child, but this isn't a game. It's a gods-damned
>> corporation! When people quit pretending that it's a game AND DO YOUR
>> F*$%ING JOB, then we'll be better off.
>>
>> It sickens me this attitude. "I don't like him, therefore any laws he
>> cites
>>
>> MUST be worth ignoring." It was bad 2060 years ago, it's bad today.
>> Continuing on this path will *kill* NR. When will people wake up and
>> realize
>> this partisanship only harms?
>>
>> Vale.
>>
>

Hmmmm.  The records were posted to the SENATE LIST.  Duh!

Cincinnatus... you mean that wonderful saintly man who was kind and generous to everyone?

*cough* flip *cough* flop *cough*

Wait a minute!

In Dungeons and Dragons I can be a wizard or something cool.  No fair....

On second thought.  We do have a big fat troll, snarling kobolds, following orcs....

Okay.  Maybe you're right.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

Modiane,

Sorry, but statements that are tantamount to flouting the law will get
called on no matter the person. If you are correct, and the files are on the
Senate, *all she had to do was tell him where he could find them*. Instead,
we get what's typical of a growing faction of law-flouters. Telling anyone
they don't like to fuck off without any regard to the consequences.

And for the record, I have always maintained that we are a corporation.
Perhaps one day we can be more, but right now thinking otherwise is no
different than Dungeons and Dragons. Pure imagination.

The records that Cato is asking for is NOT posted in the senate. I checked.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> I have seen the financial documents. Looks good to me, she has done an
> admirable job. When she did the filings for our corporate status she posted
> such in the senate... oh, maybe that was when Cato took his year and a half
> break from Nova Roma. Could be... but now that he has access to the senate
> list again he can go through the archives. I'm not sure what he is looking
> for. It's certainly not financial because those are posted to the senate
> and on the website. He wants to know about corporate filings (I believe),
> and those have been done and if memory serves me correctly (which it
> sometimes does not), she posted such in the senate. So what does he want?
> A receipt of some sort?
>
> What sickens me is when someone like our CFO gets attacked unjustly. She
> does good work, and is a professional.
>
> When you crap on people who do good work, don't expect them to come running
> to you whenever you ask for it.
>
> First Nova Roma was a "republic." Now are just another "corporation." A
> corporation with volunteers. Rule to live by... don't crap on your
> volunteers. It's a bad thing m'kay.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
> q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Where do you see either Cato or Sulla acting as authority? They simply
> > relate American law. Please don't fall into this trap, Modiane, of ignoring
> >
> > people because of political differences. The law (American law, not Cato's
> > or Sulla's) is the law, and Laeca is quite simply ignoring the law.
> >
> > What harm would it be to actually release financial documents to a Board of
> >
> > Director instead of pouting because "he's a meanie poopy head". Laeca is
> > acting like a damn child, but this isn't a game. It's a gods-damned
> > corporation! When people quit pretending that it's a game AND DO YOUR
> > F*$%ING JOB, then we'll be better off.
> >
> > It sickens me this attitude. "I don't like him, therefore any laws he cites
> >
> > MUST be worth ignoring." It was bad 2060 years ago, it's bad today.
> > Continuing on this path will *kill* NR. When will people wake up and
> > realize
> > this partisanship only harms?
> >
> > Vale.
> >
>

Equestria Omnibusque sal.

Funny! I must have missed that memo too! :-)

Equestria

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:08 AM, David Kling wrote:
> But don't you know you're supposed to obey Cato? He is the law.
> Protector of Nova Roma from the diabolical magistrates :)
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM, D. Boyle <deandreaboyle@...>
> wrote:
> Equestria Catoni sal.
>
> I always obey the law.
>
> Vale.
>
>
>

Think of it as a political Dungeons and Dragons. Albucius pretends to be
partial praetor, Laeca pretends to be a good CFO, Titus Aquila and Appius
Galerius pretend that they are living in 63 BCE, and Maior pretends to be
whatever she wants to be.

Meanwhile, many of us are living in the present time trying to save our real
incorporated organization against those who flout the law because of their
fantasy land or childish grudges.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:45 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> Wait a minute!
>
> In Dungeons and Dragons I can be a wizard or something cool. No fair....
>
> On second thought. We do have a big fat troll, snarling kobolds,
> following
> orcs....
>
> Okay. Maybe you're right.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
> q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Modiane,
>>
>> Sorry, but statements that are tantamount to flouting the law will get
>> called on no matter the person. If you are correct, and the files are on
>> the
>> Senate, *all she had to do was tell him where he could find them*.
>> Instead,
>>
>> we get what's typical of a growing faction of law-flouters. Telling
>> anyone
>> they don't like to fuck off without any regard to the consequences.
>>
>> And for the record, I have always maintained that we are a corporation.
>> Perhaps one day we can be more, but right now thinking otherwise is no
>> different than Dungeons and Dragons. Pure imagination.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Yep, I agree. But there's two different languages going on here. One
is professional, and the other, well... let's just say... not
getting him anywhere.

Vale.

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, David Kling wrote:
> Reminds me when I used to do customer service years ago...
>
> "I'm sorry sir, but I do not have to take this sort of behavior from
> you. If you do not change your tone I'm going to have to disconnect
> this call."
> "Like I said, if you don't change your tone I'm going to disconnect
> the call."
>
> Click.... [dial tone].
>
> Equestria 1.
> Cato 0.
>
> Nice....
>
> Valete:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, D. Boyle <deandreaboyle@...>
> wrote:
>
>
> Or did I miss the formal request that you made to the Senate also?
> Let me spell it out to you.... I WILL NOT DEAL WITH YOU DIRECTLY ON
> THIS OR ANY OTHER MATTER. You are simply not worth my time.
>
> Have a nice day!
>
> Vale.
>
>
>
>
>

Salve Equestria et Cato
 
Yes that is what I was asking as the MMP was the crisis de jour around here.
 
Cato is mistaken about my asking for financial records and no you are not a liar.
 
I do believe that because he thought that my request was for financial records and therefore they had been asked for. This is why this discussion should have remained in the Senate house.
 
I will ask now for a list of any forms or fillings required of us by the State of Maine, the federal government or any other macro nation body and that they be posted to the Senate list.
 
Vale
 
Paulinus

 

---

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: deandreaboyle@...
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:23:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of Maine

2009 CE.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Titus Flavius Aquila" <titus.aquila@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:00 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: AW: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> Thank you, but I prefer to pretend to live in 690 a.u.c. ;-) or the
> better in 2762 a.u.c.
>
> Wonder where you would fit in the best ?
>
>
> ________________________________
> Von: Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...>
> An: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 28. April 2009, 15:50:04 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
> Maine
>
>
>
>
>
> Think of it as a political Dungeons and Dragons. Albucius pretends to be
> partial praetor, Laeca pretends to be a good CFO, Titus Aquila and Appius
> Galerius pretend that they are living in 63 BCE, and Maior pretends to be
> whatever she wants to be.
>
> Meanwhile, many of us are living in the present time trying to save our
> real
> incorporated organization against those who flout the law because of their
> fantasy land or childish grudges.
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --
> From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@ gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
> Maine
>
>> Wait a minute!
>>
>> In Dungeons and Dragons I can be a wizard or something cool. No fair....
>>
>> On second thought. We do have a big fat troll, snarling kobolds,
>> following
>> orcs....
>>
>> Okay. Maybe you're right.
>>
>> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
>> q.valerius.poplicol a@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Modiane,
>>>
>>> Sorry, but statements that are tantamount to flouting the law will get
>>> called on no matter the person. If you are correct, and the files are on
>>> the
>>> Senate, *all she had to do was tell him where he could find them*.
>>> Instead,
>>>
>>> we get what's typical of a growing faction of law-flouters. Telling
>>> anyone
>>> they don't like to fuck off without any regard to the consequences.
>>>
>>> And for the record, I have always maintained that we are a corporation.
>>> Perhaps one day we can be more, but right now thinking otherwise is no
>>> different than Dungeons and Dragons. Pure imagination.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

> *cough* flip *cough* flop *cough*

Since 2004, I have remained steadfast in my opposition to the Leges Saliciae
and *anyone* who would use them, no matter how much I supported that person
prior to their act. I vociferously opposed the (threatened or actualized)
Leges Saliciae actions against Scaurus, Pompeia Minucia, Caeso Fabius Q.,
Scaevola, Cincinnatus, and now Cato.

When you, my friend and ally, did the very thing I had been ranting against
continuously for four years, was it really a surprise that you'd lose
my support?

To swear eternal opposition to the evil that continues to drive a wedge
between Nova Romans is no flip-flop.

Vale, M. Octavius Gracchus.

--
Matt Hucke (hucke@...), programmer.
author, Graveyards of Illinois - http://www.graveyards.com/
CYNICO.NET - hosting from $8.33/month; domains $13 - http://cynico.net/

Salve Pauline

Thank you.

If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find our
State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.

Vale

Equestria

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Salve Equestria et Cato
>
> Yes that is what I was asking as the MMP was the crisis de jour
> around here.
>
> Cato is mistaken about my asking for financial records and no you
> are not a liar.
>
> I do believe that because he thought that my request was for
> financial records and therefore they had been asked for. This is why
> this discussion should have remained in the Senate house.
>
> I will ask now for a list of any forms or fillings required of us by
> the State of Maine, the federal government or any other macro nation
> body and that they be posted to the Senate list.
>
> Vale
>
> Paulinus
>
>
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: deandreaboyle@...
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:23:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the
> State of Maine
>
>
>
> Equestria Paulino sal.
>
> You did not request financial records from me. You asked me for my
> position as CFO on the Magna Mater Project. Isn't that what you were
> asking from me?
>
> Vale.
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Gaius Equitius Cato wrote:
> > Cato Agricolae sal.
> >
> > Salve.
> >
> > Then she is lying. I sent a copy of the email to Galerius Paulinus
> > as well.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Lucretius Agricola"
> > <marcus.lucretius@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just exchanged mails with Laeca. She told me that she has
> > received no requests. Posting things here isn't a good way to
> > communicate with busy people, as I have often said.
> > >
> > > MLA
>
>
>

Ironically... if you would have called me (you had my number) and asked I drop the suit I would have.  I wouldn't for many people, but I would have for you.  Instead you attacked me, which was like being blind-sighted.

I don't like the Leges Saliciae either; but you knew there was a major problem going on and it wasn't getting any better.  All other options, I felt, were exhausted.  However, I've always felt that friendships were more important than Nova Roma politics.  That is why I left the Boni.

Now you're a Sullian.  That is a sad thing indeed.  But I wish you well.  We were friends once; at least it seemed as such.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Matt Hucke <hucke@...> wrote:

> *cough* flip *cough* flop *cough*

Since 2004, I have remained steadfast in my opposition to the Leges Saliciae
and *anyone* who would use them, no matter how much I supported that person
prior to their act. I vociferously opposed the (threatened or actualized)
Leges Saliciae actions against Scaurus, Pompeia Minucia, Caeso Fabius Q.,
Scaevola, Cincinnatus, and now Cato.

When you, my friend and ally, did the very thing I had been ranting against
continuously for four years, was it really a surprise that you'd lose
my support?

To swear eternal opposition to the evil that continues to drive a wedge
between Nova Romans is no flip-flop.

Vale, M. Octavius Gracchus.

Equestria:

Didn't Sulla recently, just moments ago, mention that there was no such proof on the senate list?  Hmmmm....

Maybe I should call the attorney general of Maine and ask for an audit of the senate e-mail list!  Just to make sure.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, D. Boyle <deandreaboyle@...> wrote:

Salve Pauline

Thank you.

If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find our
State and Federal filings.  The PDF file dated April 24, contains
everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.

Vale

Equestria

IF anything M. Octavius has shown to be his own man. He was friends with me - we had disagreements - now we are friends again. He was friends with you - again disagreements. However that can change in the future. Octavius like Cincinnatus is one of the most honorable of Nova Romans - and being in disagreement with the man does not change that.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Ironically... if you would have called me (you had my number) and asked I
> drop the suit I would have. I wouldn't for many people, but I would have
> for you. Instead you attacked me, which was like being blind-sighted.
>
> I don't like the Leges Saliciae either; but you knew there was a major
> problem going on and it wasn't getting any better. All other options, I
> felt, were exhausted. However, I've always felt that friendships were more
> important than Nova Roma politics. That is why I left the Boni.
>
> Now you're a Sullian. That is a sad thing indeed. But I wish you well. We
> were friends once; at least it seemed as such.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Matt Hucke <hucke@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > *cough* flip *cough* flop *cough*
> >
> > Since 2004, I have remained steadfast in my opposition to the Leges
> > Saliciae
> > and *anyone* who would use them, no matter how much I supported that person
> > prior to their act. I vociferously opposed the (threatened or actualized)
> > Leges Saliciae actions against Scaurus, Pompeia Minucia, Caeso Fabius Q.,
> > Scaevola, Cincinnatus, and now Cato.
> >
> > When you, my friend and ally, did the very thing I had been ranting against
> > continuously for four years, was it really a surprise that you'd lose
> > my support?
> >
> > To swear eternal opposition to the evil that continues to drive a wedge
> > between Nova Romans is no flip-flop.
> >
> > Vale, M. Octavius Gracchus.
> >
>

Why couldn't *anyone* point that out earlier? Sounds like she just *wanted*
to piss people off.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:16 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Financial records

> Equestria:
>
> Didn't Sulla recently, just moments ago, mention that there was no such
> proof on the senate list? Hmmmm....
>
> Maybe I should call the attorney general of Maine and ask for an audit of
> the senate e-mail list! Just to make sure.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, D. Boyle <deandreaboyle@...> wrote:
>
>> Salve Pauline
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find our
>> State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
>> everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
>> The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
>>
>> Vale
>>
>> Equestria
>

Modiane

I am not sure, I have stopped reading his emails.

Yes!

Equestria

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:16 AM, David Kling wrote:
> Equestria:
>
> Didn't Sulla recently, just moments ago, mention that there was no
> such proof on the senate list? Hmmmm....
>
> Maybe I should call the attorney general of Maine and ask for an
> audit of the senate e-mail list! Just to make sure.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, D. Boyle<deandreaboyle@...>
> wrote:
> Salve Pauline
>
> Thank you.
>
> If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find our
> State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
> everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
> The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
>
> Vale
>
> Equestria
>
>
>

I was not talking about the 990s - neither is Cato. We are both talking about state (and multistate filings) regarding our corproate status. Amazon.com contracts and its compliance - and our annual report. I can't think of a way of putting this in 1 syllable words for you to comprehend.

Vale,

Sulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Equestria:
>
> Didn't Sulla recently, just moments ago, mention that there was no such
> proof on the senate list? Hmmmm....
>
> Maybe I should call the attorney general of Maine and ask for an audit of
> the senate e-mail list! Just to make sure.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, D. Boyle <deandreaboyle@...> wrote:
>
> > Salve Pauline
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find our
> > State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
> > everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
> > The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Equestria
>

Salve K. Fabi Modiane,

> Ironically... if you would have called me (you had my number) and asked I
> drop the suit I would have.

I was, as you recall, wounded by the fact that my departure from the Senate
a few days before had gone unmentioned by allmost all of my former colleagues.
By the time I saw your lex salicia act, it was already public, and I responded
there. Yes, I wish we had both acted differently that month.

> I don't like the Leges Saliciae either; but you knew there was a major
> problem going on and it wasn't getting any better.

I disagree. You'd already won; there were, at that point, three augurs and several
new pontifices. Outvoting Cincinnatus two-to-one in everything for the next
several years would have been revenge enough; I could not support an effort
to force him out entirely.

> Now you're a Sullian. That is a sad thing indeed.

Not really. It's just that Sulla and Cato have been in the right recently, on
several issues that gravely concern me: main list censorship, and the leges
Salicia. Unlike Cato, I don't care in the slightest whether all the
relevant IRS paperwork is in order; but when people start screaming
"traitor" and trying to force out their opponents, I won't sit idly by and
let that happen.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Matt Hucke (hucke@...), programmer.
author, Graveyards of Illinois - http://graveyards.com/
CYNICO.NET - hosting from $8.33/month; domains $13 - http://cynico.net/

No, there are no multistate filings. We are exempt from doing so at
this time. The Amazon contracts are de minimus. The Annual Report is
included with the PDF file, the current years one will be submitted on
May 1st.

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Robert Woolwine wrote:
> I was not talking about the 990s - neither is Cato. We are both
> talking about state (and multistate filings) regarding our corproate
> status. Amazon.com contracts and its compliance - and our annual
> report. I can't think of a way of putting this in 1 syllable words
> for you to comprehend.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Equestria:
> >
> > Didn't Sulla recently, just moments ago, mention that there was no
> such
> > proof on the senate list? Hmmmm....
> >
> > Maybe I should call the attorney general of Maine and ask for an
> audit of
> > the senate e-mail list! Just to make sure.
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, D. Boyle <deandreaboyle@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Salve Pauline
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will
> find our
> > > State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
> > > everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
> > > The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
> > >
> > > Vale
> > >
> > > Equestria
> >
>
>
>

Attachments :

Oh, thank you so much for the pep talk.  Just what I needed.

*puke*

Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Robert Woolwine <l_cornelius_sulla@...> wrote:

IF anything M. Octavius has shown to be his own man. He was friends with me - we had disagreements - now we are friends again. He was friends with you - again disagreements. However that can change in the future. Octavius like Cincinnatus is one of the most honorable of Nova Romans - and being in disagreement with the man does not change that.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Hindsight you know.

If I knew I was going to loose a friend over it I wouldn't have done it.  Simple as that.  Sometimes we are blind, but hopefully we grow from it.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

So much for being a friend of Octavius'. Yes, what a good friend you are.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:28 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> Oh, thank you so much for the pep talk. Just what I needed.
>
> *puke*
>
> Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> l_cornelius_sulla@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> IF anything M. Octavius has shown to be his own man. He was friends with
>> me
>> - we had disagreements - now we are friends again. He was friends with
>> you -
>> again disagreements. However that can change in the future. Octavius like
>> Cincinnatus is one of the most honorable of Nova Romans - and being in
>> disagreement with the man does not change that.
>>
>> Vale,
>>
>> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Senatores should already know it!  Wait... only those senatores who didn't take a year and a half off :)  Like our dear Cato!

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

Why couldn't *anyone* point that out earlier? Sounds like she just *wanted*
to piss people off.

Salve Poplicola
 
 "Laeca pretends to be a good CFO"
 
STOP PLEASE STOP
 
Laeca DOES NOT pretend to be a good CFO because she is NOT a good CFO.
 
SHE IS A GREAT CFO!!!!! 
 
Once, just once, it would be nice if the moderators of this list would do so when
it actually mattered. It would be nice if they declared this off topic and it retuned to the SENATE LIST where it belongs.
 
 
Vale
 
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

WTF are you talking about?  My comment was aimed at Cartman... not Octavius.  I still like Octavius, even though we have not spoken in a long time.  The other fellow... I see nothing good in him.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

So much for being a friend of Octavius'. Yes, what a good friend you are.

Is that what the society of St. Luke taught you? Pontif?

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Hindsight you know.
>
> If I knew I was going to loose a friend over it I wouldn't have done it.
> Simple as that. Sometimes we are blind, but hopefully we grow from it.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Matt Hucke <hucke@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Salve K. Fabi Modiane,
> >
> >
> > > Ironically... if you would have called me (you had my number) and asked I
> > > drop the suit I would have.
> >
> > I was, as you recall, wounded by the fact that my departure from the Senate
> >
> > a few days before had gone unmentioned by allmost all of my former
> > colleagues.
> > By the time I saw your lex salicia act, it was already public, and I
> > responded
> > there. Yes, I wish we had both acted differently that month.
> >
> > > I don't like the Leges Saliciae either; but you knew there was a major
> > > problem going on and it wasn't getting any better.
> >
> > I disagree. You'd already won; there were, at that point, three augurs and
> > several
> > new pontifices. Outvoting Cincinnatus two-to-one in everything for the next
> > several years would have been revenge enough; I could not support an effort
> > to force him out entirely.
> >
> > > Now you're a Sullian. That is a sad thing indeed.
> >
> > Not really. It's just that Sulla and Cato have been in the right recently,
> > on
> > several issues that gravely concern me: main list censorship, and the leges
> > Salicia. Unlike Cato, I don't care in the slightest whether all the
> > relevant IRS paperwork is in order; but when people start screaming
> > "traitor" and trying to force out their opponents, I won't sit idly by and
> > let that happen.
> >
> > Vale, Octavius.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Be careful Paulinus.  The hand the feeds you might cut you off!  You cannot turn on your buddies now!  They need you.

Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:

Salve Poplicola
 
 "Laeca pretends to be a good CFO"
 
STOP PLEASE STOP
 
Laeca DOES NOT pretend to be a good CFO because she is NOT a good CFO.
 
SHE IS A GREAT CFO!!!!! 
 
Once, just once, it would be nice if the moderators of this list would do so when
it actually mattered. It would be nice if they declared this off topic and it retuned to the SENATE LIST where it belongs.
 
 
Vale
 
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus 

Salve Equestria
 
So as of today, April 28th at 10:35 am there are no outstanding forms or other fillings, from any state or federal agency that needs filing, is that correct?
 
Vale
 
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
 

> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: deandreaboyle@...
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:10:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Financial records
>
> Salve Pauline
>
> Thank you.
>
> If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find our
> State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
> everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
> The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
>
> Vale
>
> Equestria
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Salve Equestria et Cato
> >
> > Yes that is what I was asking as the MMP was the crisis de jour
> > around here.
> >
> > Cato is mistaken about my asking for financial records and no you
> > are not a liar.
> >
> > I do believe that because he thought that my request was for
> > financial records and therefore they had been asked for. This is why
> > this discussion should have remained in the Senate house.
> >
> > I will ask now for a list of any forms or fillings required of us by
> > the State of Maine, the federal government or any other macro nation
> > body and that they be posted to the Senate list.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Paulinus
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > From: deandreaboyle@...
> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:23:59 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the
> > State of Maine
> >
> >
> >
> > Equestria Paulino sal.
> >
> > You did not request financial records from me. You asked me for my
> > position as CFO on the Magna Mater Project. Isn't that what you were
> > asking from me?
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Gaius Equitius Cato wrote:
> > > Cato Agricolae sal.
> > >
> > > Salve.
> > >
> > > Then she is lying. I sent a copy of the email to Galerius Paulinus
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Cato
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Lucretius Agricola"
> > > <marcus.lucretius@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just exchanged mails with Laeca. She told me that she has
> > > received no requests. Posting things here isn't a good way to
> > > communicate with busy people, as I have often said.
> > > >
> > > > MLA
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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That would be Pontifex.  You should listen to your friend Quintus Fabius Maximus.  It is Pontifex, and not Pontif.

And it is the Order of St. Luke.  I am also a member of Harmony Lodge, Chapter, Council and Commandery within the Masonic Fraternity.  And a member of a couple of Druid Orders too.  I also used to work for a Unitarian Universalist congregation as director of religious education.  Hmmm... what other fun things can we bring up.  Why don't you start talking about the wonderful photo of my ass that you like staring at?  I always like that one.  Gives new meaning to Modi ANUS, now doesn't it :)  Way to go Cartman.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Robert Woolwine <l_cornelius_sulla@...> wrote:

Is that what the society of St. Luke taught you? Pontif?

> Hindsight you know.
>
> If I knew I was going to loose a friend over it I wouldn't have done it.
> Simple as that. Sometimes we are blind, but hopefully we grow from it.

Yes. Failing to talk with you about that, offline, while there was still
a chance of halting the conflict, is one of my greatest regrets in all
my time here.

Cincinnatus has withdrawn from the community completely; you and I haven't
spoken for a year. I lost two friends because of a single Lex Saliciae
action.

So long as those wretched laws stand, I cannot be an active part of Nova
Roma, cannot wish to see this organization thrive; my sole purpose here now
is to defend the next victims.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Matt Hucke (hucke@...), programmer.
author, Graveyards of Illinois - http://graveyards.com/
CYNICO.NET - hosting from $8.33/month; domains $13 - http://cynico.net/

Salve Pauline

Why am I on trial? Oh, right. Guilty until proven innocent in the
court of public opinion. Ok, fine... here's my affidavit:

The the absolute best of my knowledge, as of today April 28th (now
10:53 am), from my considerable research, it is my full belief that
there are no outstanding forms or other filings from any state or
federal agency that still needs filing.

None of the people on this list that espouse otherwise have provided
any evidence that I was not able to disprove.

Vale

Equestria

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Salve Equestria
>
> So as of today, April 28th at 10:35 am there are no outstanding
> forms or other fillings, from any state or federal agency that needs
> filing, is that correct?
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > From: deandreaboyle@...
> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:10:38 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Financial records
> >
> > Salve Pauline
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find
> our
> > State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
> > everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
> > The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Equestria
> >
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > Salve Equestria et Cato
> > >
> > > Yes that is what I was asking as the MMP was the crisis de jour
> > > around here.
> > >
> > > Cato is mistaken about my asking for financial records and no you
> > > are not a liar.
> > >
> > > I do believe that because he thought that my request was for
> > > financial records and therefore they had been asked for. This is
> why
> > > this discussion should have remained in the Senate house.
> > >
> > > I will ask now for a list of any forms or fillings required of
> us by
> > > the State of Maine, the federal government or any other macro
> nation
> > > body and that they be posted to the Senate list.
> > >
> > > Vale
> > >
> > > Paulinus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: deandreaboyle@...
> > > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:23:59 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the
> > > State of Maine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Equestria Paulino sal.
> > >
> > > You did not request financial records from me. You asked me for my
> > > position as CFO on the Magna Mater Project. Isn't that what you
> were
> > > asking from me?
> > >
> > > Vale.
> > >
> > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Gaius Equitius Cato wrote:
> > > > Cato Agricolae sal.
> > > >
> > > > Salve.
> > > >
> > > > Then she is lying. I sent a copy of the email to Galerius
> Paulinus
> > > > as well.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Cato
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Lucretius Agricola"
> > > > <marcus.lucretius@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just exchanged mails with Laeca. She told me that she has
> > > > received no requests. Posting things here isn't a good way to
> > > > communicate with busy people, as I have often said.
> > > > >
> > > > > MLA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>

No "great" CEO would refuse a request from a Board of Director.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Timothy or Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:31 AM
To: "Nova-Roma" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] CFO

>
> Salve Poplicola
>
>
>
> "Laeca pretends to be a good CFO"
>
>
>
> STOP PLEASE STOP
>
>
>
> Laeca DOES NOT pretend to be a good CFO because she is NOT a good CFO.
>
>
>
> SHE IS A GREAT CFO!!!!!
>
>
>
> Once, just once, it would be nice if the moderators of this list would do
> so when
>
> it actually mattered. It would be nice if they declared this off topic and
> it retuned to the SENATE LIST where it belongs.
>
>
>
>
>
> Vale
>
>
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
>

You should learn Latin. Then you would know that Pontiff is merely the
English derivative of Pontifex.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:42 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> That would be Pontifex. You should listen to your friend Quintus Fabius
> Maximus. It is Pontifex, and not Pontif.
>
> And it is the Order of St. Luke. I am also a member of Harmony Lodge,
> Chapter, Council and Commandery within the Masonic Fraternity. And a
> member
> of a couple of Druid Orders too. I also used to work for a Unitarian
> Universalist congregation as director of religious education. Hmmm...
> what
> other fun things can we bring up. Why don't you start talking about the
> wonderful photo of my ass that you like staring at? I always like that
> one. Gives new meaning to Modi ANUS, now doesn't it :) Way to go
> Cartman.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> l_cornelius_sulla@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Is that what the society of St. Luke taught you? Pontif?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

There is no trial, you should just do your job... Oh, wait, that's right,
we're in fantasy land still. Trial away. *rolls eyes*

--------------------------------------------------
From: "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:52 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Financial records

> Salve Pauline
>
> Why am I on trial? Oh, right. Guilty until proven innocent in the
> court of public opinion. Ok, fine... here's my affidavit:
>
> The the absolute best of my knowledge, as of today April 28th (now
> 10:53 am), from my considerable research, it is my full belief that
> there are no outstanding forms or other filings from any state or
> federal agency that still needs filing.
>
> None of the people on this list that espouse otherwise have provided
> any evidence that I was not able to disprove.
>
> Vale
>
> Equestria
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> Salve Equestria
>>
>> So as of today, April 28th at 10:35 am there are no outstanding
>> forms or other fillings, from any state or federal agency that needs
>> filing, is that correct?
>>
>> Vale
>>
>> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>>
>> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>> > From: deandreaboyle@...
>> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:10:38 -0400
>> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Financial records
>> >
>> > Salve Pauline
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > If you look in the Legal section of the Senate files you will find
>> our
>> > State and Federal filings. The PDF file dated April 24, contains
>> > everything that was filed in the State of Maine through that date.
>> > The 990-N images, are the IRS filings.
>> >
>> > Vale
>> >
>> > Equestria
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> > > Salve Equestria et Cato
>> > >
>> > > Yes that is what I was asking as the MMP was the crisis de jour
>> > > around here.
>> > >
>> > > Cato is mistaken about my asking for financial records and no you
>> > > are not a liar.
>> > >
>> > > I do believe that because he thought that my request was for
>> > > financial records and therefore they had been asked for. This is
>> why
>> > > this discussion should have remained in the Senate house.
>> > >
>> > > I will ask now for a list of any forms or fillings required of
>> us by
>> > > the State of Maine, the federal government or any other macro
>> nation
>> > > body and that they be posted to the Senate list.
>> > >
>> > > Vale
>> > >
>> > > Paulinus
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>> > > From: deandreaboyle@...
>> > > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:23:59 -0400
>> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the
>> > > State of Maine
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Equestria Paulino sal.
>> > >
>> > > You did not request financial records from me. You asked me for my
>> > > position as CFO on the Magna Mater Project. Isn't that what you
>> were
>> > > asking from me?
>> > >
>> > > Vale.
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Gaius Equitius Cato wrote:
>> > > > Cato Agricolae sal.
>> > > >
>> > > > Salve.
>> > > >
>> > > > Then she is lying. I sent a copy of the email to Galerius
>> Paulinus
>> > > > as well.
>> > > >
>> > > > Vale,
>> > > >
>> > > > Cato
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Lucretius Agricola"
>> > > > <marcus.lucretius@...> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I just exchanged mails with Laeca. She told me that she has
>> > > > received no requests. Posting things here isn't a good way to
>> > > > communicate with busy people, as I have often said.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > MLA
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
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>
>
>

Cn. Lentulus Iuniae Laecae curatrici et Ti. Paulino censori s. p. d. Censor Ti. Paulinus is right: our Curatrix Aerarii Laeca is a most honourable and professional person who does and did always her best for Nova Roma. Laeca's efforts made Nova Roma very much closer to a professional corporation last year, closer than it was ever before, and this year she continues to serve us with infinite patience and energy. Thank you again, dear Iunia Laeca, for the countless hours and all the personal sacrifice you did for us! All who have a good soul will not forget it! Curate, ut valeatis! Cn. Cornelius Lentulus --- Mar 28/4/09, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> ha scritto: Salve Poplicola    "Laeca pretends to be a good CFO"   STOP PLEASE STOP   Laeca DOES NOT pretend to be a good CFO because she is NOT a good CFO.   SHE IS A GREAT CFO!!!!!    Once, just once, it would be nice if the moderators of this list would do so when it actually mattered. It would be nice if they declared this off topic and it retuned to the SENATE LIST where it belongs.     Vale   Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

Oh, I'm sorry.  I'm not as smart as you.  Perhaps I'll start insulting our CFO, that will give me self-esteem a boost.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

You should learn Latin. Then you would know that Pontiff is merely the
English derivative of Pontifex.

Equestria Iunia Cn. Lentulo et Omnibusque sal.

Thank you Lentulus and everyone that is standing by my side. Nova
Roma is one of the best things in life because of all the good, honest
and honorable citizens. The people here that have proven their
dishonor and dishonesty do not deserve to belong to this great
organization.

Vale.

On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus wrote:
> Cn. Lentulus Iuniae Laecae curatrici et Ti. Paulino censori s. p. d.
>
> Censor Ti. Paulinus is right: our Curatrix Aerarii Laeca is a most
> honourable and professional person who does and did always her best
> for Nova Roma. Laeca's efforts made Nova Roma very much closer to a
> professional corporation last year, closer than it was ever before,
> and this year she continues to serve us with infinite patience and
> energy.
>
> Thank you again, dear Iunia Laeca, for the countless hours and all
> the personal sacrifice you did for us!
>
> All who have a good soul will not forget it!
>
>
> Curate, ut valeatis!
>
> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Salvete.

I will only say that I do not think Laeca is an idiot, or incapable of doing the CFO's job. The difference between her work and our previous methods of bookkeeping are quite remarkable.

I responded in the email she posted after a request was made because of concerns over the MMP and the response was that anyone who had questions or disagreements should write to her and she'd tell them why they were wrong.

At no point did I attacked her personally, and even when I responded angrily regarding the legal authority of her position (which I still believe is supported by the law), I then apologized.

This was after a week of Caesar explaining, carefully and repeatedly, why he was concerned over what seems to amount to a charge of wire fraud regarding the MMP.

So. Please do not turn my disagreement with Laeca's position as CFO on this matter into a blanket condemnation of her or an attack on her person.

Valete,

Cato

Perhaps you should. Than you'd be even more of an ass since not only would
you be ignorant concerning your own priesthood, but then you'd also be
ignorant concerning what I've said against our CFO.

Flouting the law deserves no exceptions. Period.

But you'll probably react childish to this. At least you can't "defriend" me
on facebook again LOL. Talk about puerile behavior.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:23 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not as smart as you. Perhaps I'll start insulting our
> CFO, that will give me self-esteem a boost.
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
> q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You should learn Latin. Then you would know that Pontiff is merely the
>> English derivative of Pontifex.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Sigh. So people who want corporate compliance is dishonorable, but people
who shove their fingers in their ears and act like little spoiled children
are honorable? Is there some opium being passed around here? Oh, wait, no,
we're still in fantasy land.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:25 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] CFO

> Equestria Iunia Cn. Lentulo et Omnibusque sal.
>
> Thank you Lentulus and everyone that is standing by my side. Nova
> Roma is one of the best things in life because of all the good, honest
> and honorable citizens. The people here that have proven their
> dishonor and dishonesty do not deserve to belong to this great
> organization.
>
> Vale.
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus wrote:
>> Cn. Lentulus Iuniae Laecae curatrici et Ti. Paulino censori s. p. d.
>>
>> Censor Ti. Paulinus is right: our Curatrix Aerarii Laeca is a most
>> honourable and professional person who does and did always her best
>> for Nova Roma. Laeca's efforts made Nova Roma very much closer to a
>> professional corporation last year, closer than it was ever before,
>> and this year she continues to serve us with infinite patience and
>> energy.
>>
>> Thank you again, dear Iunia Laeca, for the countless hours and all
>> the personal sacrifice you did for us!
>>
>> All who have a good soul will not forget it!
>>
>>
>> Curate, ut valeatis!
>>
>> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "wuffa2001" <magewuffa@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:26 AM
To: <BackAlley@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [BackAlley] State of Maine CHARITABLE SOLICITATIONS ACT

>
> Title 9: BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS
> Part 13:
> Chapter 385:
>
> §5005-B. Annual fund-raising activity reports to be filed by charitable
> organizations
> 1. Content of report. A charitable organization shall submit to the
> office an annual fund-raising activity report that reflects data from the
> preceding calendar year, on a form prescribed by the office, at least 60
> days prior to the license expiration date. The report must state, at a
> minimum, the following:
> A. The charitable organization's name, mailing address, telephone number
> and license number; [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §4 (AMD).]
> B. The name, mailing address, telephone number and license number of each
> professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel and commercial
> co-venturer with which the charitable organization contracts; [2007, c.
> 402, Pt. A, §4 (AMD).]
> C. The date of each fund-raising campaign; [2003, c. 541, §10 (NEW).]
> D. The total dollar amount raised during each fund-raising campaign;
> [2003, c. 541, §10 (NEW).]
> E. The total dollar amount received by the charitable organization from
> each fund-raising campaign and for the year; [2003, c. 541, §10 (NEW).]
> F. The total dollar amount retained by any professional solicitor from
> each fund-raising campaign and for the year; [2003, c. 541, §10 (NEW).]
> G. The total amount paid to any professional fund-raising counsel from
> each fund-raising campaign and for the year; and [2003, c. 541, §10
> (NEW).]
> H. The total amount received from any commercial co-venturer from each
> fund-raising campaign and for the year. [2003, c. 541, §10 (NEW).]
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §4 (AMD) .]
> 2. Failure to file; discrepancies. Failure to file the annual
> fund-raising activity report required under this section or disagreement
> between the report filed by the charitable organization and that submitted
> by the professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or
> commercial co-venturer with which the charitable organization has
> contracted may result in disciplinary action as provided under Title 10,
> section 8003, subsection 5-A.
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §4 (AMD) .]
> 3. Contracting with unlicensed entities prohibited. A charitable
> organization may not contract with an unlicensed professional solicitor,
> professional fund-raising counsel or commercial co-venturer. A violation
> of this subsection may result in disciplinary action as provided under
> Title 10, section 8003, subsection 5-A.
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §4 (AMD) .]
>
>
> (MCF{NOTE}): 5006. Exemptions from license requirements
>
> 3. Procedures for claiming exemption from licensure. A charitable
> organization claiming to be exempt under subsection 1 must submit to the
> office annually on forms prescribed by that office and accompanied by the
> fee as set under section 5015-A, a sworn statement setting forth the name
> and address of the organization and its principal executive personnel, the
> purpose of the organization and the factual basis for the exemption. The
> organization claiming exemption must include a copy of any financial
> statement, report or return filed with the federal Internal Revenue
> Service. The office shall issue annually an exemption to those
> organizations considered exempt under subsection 1.
>
>
> (MCFAlso NOTE ( in ref to the MMP})
> §5008. License renewal, records and reporting by professional solicitors,
> professional fund-raising counsel and commercial co-venturers
> 1. Licensure. A person or entity may not act as a professional solicitor,
> a professional fund-raising counsel or a commercial co-venturer before
> that person or entity has received a license from the office. Applications
> for initial or renewal licensure must be in writing, under oath, in the
> form prescribed by the office and accompanied by an application fee and a
> license fee as set under section 5015-A. The applicant, except for
> applicants that are licensed as professional fund-raising counsel, shall,
> at the time of making application for initial or renewal licensure, file
> with and must have approved by the office a bond, in which the applicant
> must be the principal obligor and the State the obligee, in the sum of
> $25,000, with one or more responsible sureties whose liability in the
> aggregate as such sureties at least equals that sum. The bond runs to any
> person or entity who may have a cause of action against the principal
> obligor of the bond for any malfeasance or misfeasance in the conduct of
> charitable solicitation in this State. Licensure is for a period of one
> year.
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD) .]
> 1-A. Renewal of license as professional solicitor, professional
> fund-raising counsel or commercial co-venturer. The following provisions
> govern application and qualification for renewal licensure as a
> professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or commercial
> co-venturer.
> A. An entity that holds a valid license must submit a completed
> application for renewal before the date of expiration of the license.
> [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD).]
> B. An application may not be considered for approval until complete. If
> the application is incomplete, the applicant must include a letter
> documenting the specific reasons the application is incomplete. If no such
> letter is included, the incomplete application may be returned for
> completion. [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD).]
> C. The complete application packet must include:
> (1) All forms required in this section;
> (2) Except for professional fund-raising counsel, a bond approved by the
> department in the sum of $25,000 with one or more responsible sureties
> whose liability in the aggregate as such sureties at least equals that
> sum. The bond must expire on the stated date of expiration and be kept on
> file in the office for 3 years; and
> (3) A license renewal fee as set under section 5015-A. [2007, c. 402, Pt.
> A, §6 (AMD).]
> D. A professional solicitor or commercial co-venturer who submits a
> license renewal application must submit:
> (1) A bond in the sum of $25,000 that expires on the stated date of
> expiration;
> (2) A license renewal fee as set under section 5015-A; and
> (3) The completed application. [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD).]
> E. [2003, c. 541, §12 (RP).]
> F. [2003, c. 541, §12 (RP).]
> G. A professional fund-raising counsel who is applying for license renewal
> must submit:
> (1) A license renewal fee as set under section 5015-A; and
> (2) A completed renewal application. [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD).]
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD) .]
> 2. Records. A professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel
> or commercial co-venturer shall maintain accurate and complete books and
> records of fund-raising activities and telephone solicitation scripts and
> shall keep those books and records available for inspection by the
> Attorney General or the office for a period of 3 years after the
> conclusion of each specific instance in which that person acts as a
> professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or commercial
> co-venturer.
> [ 2003, c. 541, §12 (AMD) .]
> 3. Annual reports.
> [ 1999, c. 386, Pt. A, §16 (RP) .]
> 3-A. Annual fund-raising activity reports to be filed by professional
> solicitors, professional fund-raising counsel and commercial co-venturers.
> Filing of annual fund-raising activity reports by professional solicitors,
> professional fund-raisers and commercial co-venturers is governed by this
> subsection.
> A. Each professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or
> commercial co-venturer shall file with the office an annual fund-raising
> activity report on a form prescribed by the office at least 60 days prior
> to the license expiration date that reflects data from the preceding
> calendar year. The report must state, at a minimum, the following:
> (1) The name, mailing address, telephone number and license number of the
> professional solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or commercial
> co-venturer making the report;
> (2) The name, mailing address, telephone number and license number of each
> charitable organization with which the professional solicitor,
> professional fund-raising counsel or commercial co-venturer has
> contracted;
> (3) The date of any fund-raising campaign in which the professional
> solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or commercial co-venturer was
> involved;
> (4) The total dollar amount raised during each fund-raising campaign;
> (5) The total dollar amount remitted to the charitable organization from
> each fund-raising campaign and for the year;
> (6) The total dollar amount retained by the professional solicitor from
> each fund-raising campaign and for the year;
> (7) The total dollar amount received by the professional fund-raising
> counsel from each fund-raising campaign and for the year; and
> (8) The total dollar amount remitted by the commercial co-venturer from
> each fund-raising campaign and for the year. [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6
> (AMD).]
> B. Failure to file the annual fund-raising activity report or disagreement
> between that report and the report submitted by the charitable
> organization with which the professional solicitor, professional
> fund-raising counsel or commercial co-venturer has contracted may result
> in disciplinary action as provided under Title 10, section 8003,
> subsection 5-A. [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD).]
> C. Contracting with an unlicensed entity is prohibited and may result in
> disciplinary action as provided under Title 10, section 8003, subsection
> 5-A. [2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD).]
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §6 (AMD) .]
> 4. Exemption. This section does not apply to a national bank, a federal
> savings bank, a subsidiary of a national bank or federal savings bank or
> any other financial institution or credit union chartered under the laws
> of the United States or any state and subject to supervision and
> regulation by a federal financial regulatory agency.
>
>
> §5009. Contracts to be filed and retained
> 1. Contracts to be filed. All contracts entered into between a
> professional solicitor, a professional fund-raising counsel or a
> commercial co-venturer and any charitable organization, whether or not the
> organization is exempted under section 5006, must be in writing, and a
> true and correct copy of each contract must be filed by the professional
> solicitor, professional fund-raising counsel or commercial co-venturer who
> is a party to the contract with the office before services are performed
> under the contract. The contract must contain the following:
> A. A statement of the charitable purpose for which a solicitation campaign
> is being conducted; [2003, c. 541, §13 (AMD).]
> B. In the case of a professional solicitor, a statement of the percentage
> of gross proceeds collected to be paid to the charitable organization; and
> [2003, c. 541, §13 (AMD).]
> C. The signatures and legibly printed or typed names of individuals
> representing the contracting parties. [2003, c. 541, §13 (NEW).]
> Contracts must be kept on file in the offices of the charitable
> organization and the professional solicitor, professional fund-raising
> counsel or commercial co-venturer during the term of the contract and for
> 3 years after the date of solicitation of contributions provided for in
> the contract.
> [ 2007, c. 402, Pt. A, §7 (AMD) .]
> 2. Contracts to be retained by office.
>
>
>

Awww... now he wants to kiss and make up. 

Equestria.. Run! 

Something about sheep, wolves, and clothing...

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> wrote:

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Salvete.

I will only say that I do not think Laeca is an idiot, or incapable of doing the CFO's job. The difference between her work and our previous methods of bookkeeping are quite remarkable.

I responded in the email she posted after a request was made because of concerns over the MMP and the response was that anyone who had questions or disagreements should write to her and she'd tell them why they were wrong.

At no point did I attacked her personally, and even when I responded angrily regarding the legal authority of her position (which I still believe is supported by the law), I then apologized.

This was after a week of Caesar explaining, carefully and repeatedly, why he was concerned over what seems to amount to a charge of wire fraud regarding the MMP.

So. Please do not turn my disagreement with Laeca's position as CFO on this matter into a blanket condemnation of her or an attack on her person.

Valete,

Cato

--------------------------------------------------
From: "wuffa2001" <magewuffa@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:31 AM
To: <BackAlley@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [BackAlley] Re: State of Maine CHARITABLE SOLICITATIONS ACT

> -
>
> Note that it says §5009. Contracts to be filed and retained
> 1. Contracts to be filed. All contracts entered into between a
> professional
> solicitor, a professional fund-raising counsel or a commercial co-venturer
> and
> any charitable organization
>
> we need to file .
> QED
> MCF
>
>

I defriended you on facebook because I have no idea if you are interested in being the "friend" of David Kling (i.e., me) or if you are interested in gaining information about my personal life for Q. Valerius Poplicola's policial life in Nova Roma -- and the pals in the back alley.  Nothing personal, just protecting my interests. 

My reference to Pontifex vs. Pontif was in reference to something that QFM said in the CP years ago to Cassius -- something about it being Pontifex and not Pontiff.  Since QFM knows Latin, and I know very little, I defer to his judgment.  But alas, I am wrong for trusting the words of QFM.  It seems that he too needs to learn Latin.

I do think you are too hard on our CFO.

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

Perhaps you should. Than you'd be even more of an ass since not only would
you be ignorant concerning your own priesthood, but then you'd also be
ignorant concerning what I've said against our CFO.

Flouting the law deserves no exceptions. Period.

But you'll probably react childish to this. At least you can't "defriend" me
on facebook again LOL. Talk about puerile behavior.

Salvete omnes,
this is a very interesting collection of photos documenting changes in Rome. It has a unique abundance of old photos and paintings depicting specific places in Rome, flanked by photos of the same places today.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dealvariis/

Optime valete,
Livia

If I am too hard on our CFO, so be it. I apologize. However, I will not
tolerate abuses of the law, no matter whether she did miracles for the
bookkeeping or not. Ignoring a board of director is selfish and childish to
the extreme, not to mention dangerous. Moreover, it's just plain dumb.

BTW - despite you not wanting to learn Latin, you really should before you
correct others in a derogatory fashion.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Kling" <tau.athanasios@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:38 AM
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The Attorney General's Office in the State of
Maine

> I defriended you on facebook because I have no idea if you are interested
> in
> being the "friend" of David Kling (i.e., me) or if you are interested in
> gaining information about my personal life for Q. Valerius Poplicola's
> policial life in Nova Roma -- and the pals in the back alley. Nothing
> personal, just protecting my interests.
>
> My reference to Pontifex vs. Pontif was in reference to something that QFM
> said in the CP years ago to Cassius -- something about it being Pontifex
> and
> not Pontiff. Since QFM knows Latin, and I know very little, I defer to
> his
> judgment. But alas, I am wrong for trusting the words of QFM. It seems
> that he too needs to learn Latin.
>
> I do think you are too hard on our CFO.
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
> q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you should. Than you'd be even more of an ass since not only
>> would
>> you be ignorant concerning your own priesthood, but then you'd also be
>> ignorant concerning what I've said against our CFO.
>>
>> Flouting the law deserves no exceptions. Period.
>>
>> But you'll probably react childish to this. At least you can't "defriend"
>> me
>> on facebook again LOL. Talk about puerile behavior.
>>
>

Salve Valerius Poplicola

As a friend of mine and as a person I know who is better than this I must admonish you for calling our Equestria Iunia, our CFO a liar. She is not. You, Cato and even myself may have question about how Nova Roma is functioning and if certain magistrates are doing their jobs.
 
I have no such questions about Equestria Iunia and her job as our CFO. Please remember that Equestria Iunia does real accounting for us and all the other duties that go along with the CFO position.

Please keep to the facts and not engage in personalities.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

Never said I didn't want to learn Latin.  I don't have the time. 

However, I am going to start studying Greek in the Fall.

Modianus

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

If I am too hard on our CFO, so be it. I apologize. However, I will not
tolerate abuses of the law, no matter whether she did miracles for the
bookkeeping or not. Ignoring a board of director is selfish and childish to
the extreme, not to mention dangerous. Moreover, it's just plain dumb.

BTW - despite you not wanting to learn Latin, you really should before you
correct others in a derogatory fashion.

Salve Coruncani,
so far we only know that Consul Severus is well. He was outside Mexico City at the time of the quake. We have no news about other cives.

Vale,
Livia

>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> misfortunes never come one by one. :(
> Any news from mexican cives? Is everyone ok?
>
> --
>
> Di te incolumem custodiant.
>
> L. Coruncanius Cato
>
> Candidate to Aedilis Curulis
>
> --- El lun, 27/4/09, Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...> escribió:
> De: Gaius Equitius Cato <mlcinnyc@...>
> Asunto: [Nova-Roma] Earthquake in mexico City
> Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Fecha: lunes, 27 abril, 2009 8:14
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cato omnibus in foro SPD
>
>
>
> Salvete.
>
>
>
> MEXICO CITY â€" A strong earthquake struck central Mexico on Monday, swaying tall buildings in the capital and sending office workers into the streets. The quake had a magnitude of 5.6 and was centered near Chilpancingo, about 130 miles (210 kilometers) southwest of Mexico City or 50 miles (80 kilometers) from the resort of Acapulco, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. Televisa television network quoted Mexico City officials saying there were no immediate reports of damage or injuries. The quake rattled nerves in a city already nervous about a swine flu outbreak suspected of killing as many as 149 people nationwide. (AP)
>
>
>
> May (the) God(s) protect and keep our citizens in Mexico.
>
>
>
> Valete,
>
>
>
> Cato
>

Salvete
 
Nova Roma has not hired a fund raiser and therefore had no need to file this form.
 
Valete
 
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

 

---

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: q.valerius.poplicola@...
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:34:17 -0500
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Fw: [BackAlley] Re: State of Maine CHARITABLE SOLICITATIONS ACT

Equestria Paulino sal.

Thank you for saying such kind things about me especially on this
day. I know they are trying to find something wrong that I have done
to prove incompetence or reason to remove. But I know my job very
well and truly enjoy it. So they are looking in the wrong place.

Vale.

On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Salve Valerius Poplicola
>
> As a friend of mine and as a person I know who is better than this I
> must admonish you for calling our Equestria Iunia, our CFO a liar.
> She is not. You, Cato and even myself may have question about how
> Nova Roma is functioning and if certain magistrates are doing their
> jobs.
>
> I have no such questions about Equestria Iunia and her job as our
> CFO. Please remember that Equestria Iunia does real accounting for
> us and all the other duties that go along with the CFO position.
>
> Please keep to the facts and not engage in personalities.
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>
>

Salvete and good morning,

Consul Severus was not in Mexico City at the time, and is well, but he did tell me that his family are all well.
The actual earthquake was about 40 miles inland of Acapulco which is about 130 miles away and while Mexico City did have some of the taller buildings sway I have not heard of any damage thus far.
A few moments after the earthquake hit I was watching a live interview on CNN with the minister of health in a Mexico City park discussing the swine flu. They were calm, people were calmly going about their business, no sounds of sirens or anything else for that matter.
Thus far no damage was reported, there was a power outage and two elderly women died of heart attacks. Beyond that I have not heard anymore. Hard to believe after the L'Aquila region earthquake and all the damage and loss of life there.

Valete
Julia

This will be my last post to the ML for a while.

Mrs. Boyle, no one has recommended that you be removed *until* your refusal to comply with the request of a certain director (Mr. Michael Cerrato). And even then the recommendation was half-heartedly flung, and if you would just follow the law and quit acting so childish in your labeling people idiotic and ignoring valid requests, there wouldn't be a problem at all.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@...> wrote:
>
> Equestria Paulino sal.
>
> Thank you for saying such kind things about me especially on this
> day. I know they are trying to find something wrong that I have done
> to prove incompetence or reason to remove. But I know my job very
> well and truly enjoy it. So they are looking in the wrong place.
>
> Vale.
>
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Salve Valerius Poplicola
> >
> > As a friend of mine and as a person I know who is better than this I
> > must admonish you for calling our Equestria Iunia, our CFO a liar.
> > She is not. You, Cato and even myself may have question about how
> > Nova Roma is functioning and if certain magistrates are doing their
> > jobs.
> >
> > I have no such questions about Equestria Iunia and her job as our
> > CFO. Please remember that Equestria Iunia does real accounting for
> > us and all the other duties that go along with the CFO position.
> >
> > Please keep to the facts and not engage in personalities.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> >
> >
>

Salve Iulia Aquila,
in fact, it was proved that a lot of the damage in L'Aquila was due to corruption, as many new buildings were built using sea sand for the concrete, in defiance of all rules about anti-seismic buildings.
Investigations are going on.
Obviously the buildings in Mexico City were built according to all anti-seismic norms.
It's sad to see that Italy can take lessons from Mexico about avoiding corruption and about state-of-the-art buildings.

Optime vale,
Livia

>
> Salvete and good morning,
>
> Consul Severus was not in Mexico City at the time, and is well, but he did tell me that his family are all well.
> The actual earthquake was about 40 miles inland of Acapulco which is about 130 miles away and while Mexico City did have some of the taller buildings sway I have not heard of any damage thus far.
> A few moments after the earthquake hit I was watching a live interview on CNN with the minister of health in a Mexico City park discussing the swine flu. They were calm, people were calmly going about their business, no sounds of sirens or anything else for that matter.
> Thus far no damage was reported, there was a power outage and two elderly women died of heart attacks. Beyond that I have not heard anymore. Hard to believe after the L'Aquila region earthquake and all the damage and loss of life there.
>
> Valete
> Julia
>

Cato Laecae sal.

Salve.

Removing you? Who said anything even remotely close to that? I have absolutely no intention of doing anything like that, and never have. I disagree with something that has happened, and would like to be shown that I am wrong, if I am. To do so, I would like to see our records. That's all.

I am able to separate a job from a person.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@...> wrote:
>
> Equestria Paulino sal.
>
> Thank you for saying such kind things about me especially on this
> day. I know they are trying to find something wrong that I have done
> to prove incompetence or reason to remove. But I know my job very
> well and truly enjoy it. So they are looking in the wrong place.
>
> Vale.
>
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Salve Valerius Poplicola
> >
> > As a friend of mine and as a person I know who is better than this I
> > must admonish you for calling our Equestria Iunia, our CFO a liar.
> > She is not. You, Cato and even myself may have question about how
> > Nova Roma is functioning and if certain magistrates are doing their
> > jobs.
> >
> > I have no such questions about Equestria Iunia and her job as our
> > CFO. Please remember that Equestria Iunia does real accounting for
> > us and all the other duties that go along with the CFO position.
> >
> > Please keep to the facts and not engage in personalities.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> >
> >
>

Salve Equestria
 
You are most welcome. I do need to add this.
 
I do not think for a moment that Cato et al, including myself who questions certain magistrate have as a goal you removal as CFO.  That  would be a disaster of the first magnitude IMHO. What they seek and mainly from the Consuls is information on those items we have talked about for the last month or so.
 
You have stated in response to my PUBLIC questions that Nova Roma is is full
compliance with both state and federal requirement and I take you at your word.
 
Do I or my friend always get things right, NO nor do we always get it wrong.
 
The truth is The Consuls any Consuls could do a better job, even me when it was my turn.
but treason trials for asking questions? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.
 
Here is a little secret last month in private I asked the Consuls to call the Nova Roman Senate together for its first face to face meeting for mid June. I suggested North American because one of our Consuls and half the Senate reside here. I even suggested that we could pay a little to enable overseas Senators to attend.
 
One of the Consuls was polite enough to ask what the agenda should be for this type of meeting. I said among other things the realization that none of us has two heads
and breaking bread together could not but help develop real relationships between the Senate/BOD.
 
The other Consuls remark was  "do we have to do this or is Paulinus just out of his mind"?
 
Only in Nova Roma could it be suggested that a person asking for a face to face meeting
might be out of their minds.
 
LOL
 
Vale
 
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
 
 
 

> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: deandreaboyle@...
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:01:26 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Valerius Poplicola and Equestria Iunia
>
> Equestria Paulino sal.
>
> Thank you for saying such kind things about me especially on this
> day. I know they are trying to find something wrong that I have done
> to prove incompetence or reason to remove. But I know my job very
> well and truly enjoy it. So they are looking in the wrong place.
>
> Vale.
>
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Salve Valerius Poplicola
> >
> > As a friend of mine and as a person I know who is better than this I
> > must admonish you for calling our Equestria Iunia, our CFO a liar.
> > She is not. You, Cato and even myself may have question about how
> > Nova Roma is functioning and if certain magistrates are doing their
> > jobs.
> >
> > I have no such questions about Equestria Iunia and her job as our
> > CFO. Please remember that Equestria Iunia does real accounting for
> > us and all the other duties that go along with the CFO position.
> >
> > Please keep to the facts and not engage in personalities.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> >
> >
>
>
>
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SALVETE!

Here are not excuses for how Equestria was insulted today.

As former consul I know all about her huge amount of work for NR finances benefit. As current Senator I know her continuous efforts in that field. I'm sure that all Senate members know.

Here are not excuses for how Equestria was insulted today!

VALETE,
T. Iulius Sabinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
> This will be my last post to the ML for a while.
>
> Mrs. Boyle, no one has recommended that you be removed *until* your refusal to comply with the request of a certain director (Mr. Michael Cerrato). And even then the recommendation was half-heartedly flung, and if you would just follow the law and quit acting so childish in your labeling people idiotic and ignoring valid requests, there wouldn't be a problem at all.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@> wrote:
> >
> > Equestria Paulino sal.
> >
> > Thank you for saying such kind things about me especially on this
> > day. I know they are trying to find something wrong that I have done
> > to prove incompetence or reason to remove. But I know my job very
> > well and truly enjoy it. So they are looking in the wrong place.
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > Salve Valerius Poplicola
> > >
> > > As a friend of mine and as a person I know who is better than this I
> > > must admonish you for calling our Equestria Iunia, our CFO a liar.
> > > She is not. You, Cato and even myself may have question about how
> > > Nova Roma is functioning and if certain magistrates are doing their
> > > jobs.
> > >
> > > I have no such questions about Equestria Iunia and her job as our
> > > CFO. Please remember that Equestria Iunia does real accounting for
> > > us and all the other duties that go along with the CFO position.
> > >
> > > Please keep to the facts and not engage in personalities.
> > >
> > > Vale
> > >
> > > Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Salvete,

Fellow citizens of Nova Roma, how nice of Poplicola to describe the back alley from which he and his friends hold "court". So very astute in his own self assessment:

>Sigh. So people who want corporate compliance is dishonorable,

Yes those of the back alley bunch did/do behave dishonorably by behaving like children and overtake the boards usurping the threads of other citizens with their pack antics and incessant repetitive cries. If the BA bunch took the time to apply reason they would see that working towards corporate compliance has been a priority and has been an active project for many months now.
Of course reason has no place in the back alley's agenda, that would be no fun at all.

>but people who shove their fingers in their ears and act like little >spoiled children are honorable? Is there some opium being passed >around here? Oh, wait, no,
> we're still in fantasy land.

Again I thank Poplicola for that assessment of the Back Alley, one of those role playing games where even the weakest can wield a sword and cut the heads off of those they deeply feel are their betters. Poplicola must be careful though because his comrades in the Back Alley might threaten to take him to court and sue him. After all this is the back alley mantra but this would be the least of it as they are known to turn on their own in the most vicious ways if they dare to disagree with them. Along those lines the BA become vicious with anyone, friend or those they see as foes, who disagree with them and do not join the boweled alley bunch.

Valete,
Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
> Sigh. So people who want corporate compliance is dishonorable, but people
> who shove their fingers in their ears and act like little spoiled children
> are honorable? Is there some opium being passed around here? Oh, wait, no,
> we're still in fantasy land.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:25 AM
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] CFO
>
> > Equestria Iunia Cn. Lentulo et Omnibusque sal.
> >
> > Thank you Lentulus and everyone that is standing by my side. Nova
> > Roma is one of the best things in life because of all the good, honest
> > and honorable citizens. The people here that have proven their
> > dishonor and dishonesty do not deserve to belong to this great
> > organization.
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus wrote:
> >> Cn. Lentulus Iuniae Laecae curatrici et Ti. Paulino censori s. p. d.
> >>
> >> Censor Ti. Paulinus is right: our Curatrix Aerarii Laeca is a most
> >> honourable and professional person who does and did always her best
> >> for Nova Roma. Laeca's efforts made Nova Roma very much closer to a
> >> professional corporation last year, closer than it was ever before,
> >> and this year she continues to serve us with infinite patience and
> >> energy.
> >>
> >> Thank you again, dear Iunia Laeca, for the countless hours and all
> >> the personal sacrifice you did for us!
> >>
> >> All who have a good soul will not forget it!
> >>
> >>
> >> Curate, ut valeatis!
> >>
> >> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
> >
>

Salve Livia,

Last I heard there were engineers who were working towards ending that corruption and towards the appropriate compliance. I hope this was not just a temporary effort in heat of the L'Aquila tragedy and it continues now.
I understand there are many high hurdles to overcome, lots of red tape and corruption at every turn. It is sad.
Mexico is not a rich country by any means and yet they have made the buildings safe. Thank the gods.

Vale,
Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "livia_plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Iulia Aquila,
> in fact, it was proved that a lot of the damage in L'Aquila was due to corruption, as many new buildings were built using sea sand for the concrete, in defiance of all rules about anti-seismic buildings.
> Investigations are going on.
> Obviously the buildings in Mexico City were built according to all anti-seismic norms.
> It's sad to see that Italy can take lessons from Mexico about avoiding corruption and about state-of-the-art buildings.
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
> >
> > Salvete and good morning,
> >
> > Consul Severus was not in Mexico City at the time, and is well, but he did tell me that his family are all well.
> > The actual earthquake was about 40 miles inland of Acapulco which is about 130 miles away and while Mexico City did have some of the taller buildings sway I have not heard of any damage thus far.
> > A few moments after the earthquake hit I was watching a live interview on CNN with the minister of health in a Mexico City park discussing the swine flu. They were calm, people were calmly going about their business, no sounds of sirens or anything else for that matter.
> > Thus far no damage was reported, there was a power outage and two elderly women died of heart attacks. Beyond that I have not heard anymore. Hard to believe after the L'Aquila region earthquake and all the damage and loss of life there.
> >
> > Valete
> > Julia
> >
>

Cato Laecae Sabino Poplicolae omnibusque in foro SPD

Salvete.

OK, just for the record, let's start on the foundation that Poplicola, Laeca, Flavius, Galerius, even me - all of us - are basically good people trying to do what they think is best for the respublica. Not individual magistrates or groups of people, but the whole respublica, in general.

I think that is the case.

It happens that some of us disagree on details, based on different information we have received *or* different perspectives on that information.

We can react in many different ways based on our perceptions, and we all react in both those ways at different times. Whether or not the reaction we have is necessarily appropriate to the situation is variable, because we are all human beings.

So let's start this over on a more even note.

Laeca, I believe that you are doing the job in the best way you can, and given your background it is demonstrably very good. I apologize that I may have indicated that I thought otherwise of your work in general.

I have questions about certain specifics, though, because of legitimate concerns raised. Seeing the records that I have requested with my own eyes is a way for me to be able to approach these concerns with a clearer understanding and a greater ability to ask other people that I know, professionals in your field, if they concur with your own findings.

This is not to imply that you do not understand your job or are incapable in any way; it is for *me*.

That I *perceived* your response as an abrupt brush-off may have been hasty. I hope - and believe - that I will be shown to be wrong in that perception.

Valete,

Cato

Cato Iuliae Aquilae sal.

Does your assessment apply to *everyone* on the Back Alley who gets involved in discussion there? :)

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>
> Fellow citizens of Nova Roma, how nice of Poplicola to describe the back alley from which he and his friends hold "court". So very astute in his own self assessment:
> >Sigh. So people who want corporate compliance is dishonorable,
>
> Yes those of the back alley bunch did/do behave dishonorably by behaving like children and overtake the boards usurping the threads of other citizens with their pack antics and incessant repetitive cries. If the BA bunch took the time to apply reason they would see that working towards corporate compliance has been a priority and has been an active project for many months now.
> Of course reason has no place in the back alley's agenda, that would be no fun at all.
>
> >but people who shove their fingers in their ears and act like little >spoiled children are honorable? Is there some opium being passed >around here? Oh, wait, no,
> > we're still in fantasy land.
>
> Again I thank Poplicola for that assessment of the Back Alley, one of those role playing games where even the weakest can wield a sword and cut the heads off of those they deeply feel are their betters. Poplicola must be careful though because his comrades in the Back Alley might threaten to take him to court and sue him. After all this is the back alley mantra but this would be the least of it as they are known to turn on their own in the most vicious ways if they dare to disagree with them. Along those lines the BA become vicious with anyone, friend or those they see as foes, who disagree with them and do not join the boweled alley bunch.
>
> Valete,
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@> wrote:
> >
> > Sigh. So people who want corporate compliance is dishonorable, but people
> > who shove their fingers in their ears and act like little spoiled children
> > are honorable? Is there some opium being passed around here? Oh, wait, no,
> > we're still in fantasy land.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "D. Boyle" <deandreaboyle@>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:25 AM
> > To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] CFO
> >
> > > Equestria Iunia Cn. Lentulo et Omnibusque sal.
> > >
> > > Thank you Lentulus and everyone that is standing by my side. Nova
> > > Roma is one of the best things in life because of all the good, honest
> > > and honorable citizens. The people here that have proven their
> > > dishonor and dishonesty do not deserve to belong to this great
> > > organization.
> > >
> > > Vale.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus wrote:
> > >> Cn. Lentulus Iuniae Laecae curatrici et Ti. Paulino censori s. p. d.
> > >>
> > >> Censor Ti. Paulinus is right: our Curatrix Aerarii Laeca is a most
> > >> honourable and professional person who does and did always her best
> > >> for Nova Roma. Laeca's efforts made Nova Roma very much closer to a
> > >> professional corporation last year, closer than it was ever before,
> > >> and this year she continues to serve us with infinite patience and
> > >> energy.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you again, dear Iunia Laeca, for the countless hours and all
> > >> the personal sacrifice you did for us!
> > >>
> > >> All who have a good soul will not forget it!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Curate, ut valeatis!
> > >>
> > >> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
> > >
> >
>