--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> This hours selections are from Disticha Catonis translated by J. Marchand:
> BK1 Distich 3
> I think the first virtue to be keeping your tongue;
> He is close to God who knows how to keep quiet properly.
>
> Virtutem primam esse puto compescere linguam:
> Proximus ille deo est, qui scit ratione tacere.
>
>
> BK1 Distich 7
> Be constant and kind, as the case demands;
> The wise man changes his ways as time demands without fault.
>
> Constans et lenis, ut res expostulat, esto:
> Temporibus mores sapiens sine crimine mutat.
>
>
> BK1 Distich 15
> Remember to tell publicly of favors by others;
> And you yourself, when you do good to others, be silent about it
>
> Officium alterius multis narrare memento,
> Atque aliis cum tu bene feceris ipse, sileto.
>
>
> Bk2 Districh 14
> Be of strong mind when you are wrongly accused;
> No one is happy for long who wins with an injust judgment.
>
> Esto animo forti, cum sis damnatus inique;
> Nemo diu gaudet, qui iudice vincit iniquo.
>
>
> BK2 Districh 18
> Be stupid when the time or situation demands;
> To fake stupidity is at times the highest prudence.
>
> Insipiens esto, cum tempus postulat aut res;
> Stultitiam simulare loco prudentia summa est.
>
>
> Bk2 Districh 20
> Do not always believe someone who tells things;
> Little credence is to be paid (to them), because they talk a lot.
>
> Noli tu quaedam referenti credere semper;
> Exigua est tribuenda fides, quia multa loquuntur.
>
>
> BK2 Distich 27
> Look at what has happened, and see that which is coming;
> Imitate that god who looks in both directions (Janus).
>
> Quod sequitur specta, quodque imminet ante videto;
> Illum imitare deum, partem qui spectat utramque.
>
>
> BK2 Distich 29
> Never spurn public opinion alone,
> Lest you please no one when you want to spurn many.
>
> Iudicium populi numquam contempseris unus,
> Ne nulli placeas, dum vis contemnere multos.
>
>
> Bk3 Distich 13
> Learn from the examples of many what deeds you should emulate
> And which to avoid; the life of others is a mistress (teacher) to us.
>
> Multorum disce exemplis, quae facta sequaris,
> Quae fugias; vita est nobis aliena magistra.
>
>
> Bk3 Distich 15
> That which you know to be wrongly done, do not conceal,
> Lest by keeping silence you seem to be willing to imitate wrongdoers.
>
> Quod nosti haud recte factum, nolito tacere,
> Ne videare malos imitari velle tacendo.
>
>
> Bk3 Distich 17
> That which you bear by right, remember to bear patiently,
> And when you stand guilty before yourself, judge yourself strictly.
>
> Quod merito pateris, patienter ferre memento,
> Cumque reus tibi sis, ipsum te iudice damna.
>
>
> Bk4 Distich 9
> Whatever is suspect to you, immediately test what it is;
> For those things which are at first ignored often harm.
>
> Quod tibi suspectum est, confestim discute, quid sit;
> Namque solent, primo quae sunt neglecta, nocere.
>
>
> Bk4 Distich 13
> Ask for aid from your associates when you are in travail;
> No one is a better doctor than a faithful friend.
>
> Auxilium a notis petito, si forte labores;
> Nec quisquam melior medicus quam fidus amicus.
>
>
> BK 4 Distich 20
> Look quietly upon all things that people say;
> The speech of men hides their ways and reveals them also.
>
> Prospicito cuncta tacitus, quid quisque loquatur;
> Sermo hominum mores celat et indicat idem.
>
>
> Bk4 Distich 26
> In peaceful times always be on the lookout for adverse things,
> And again, in bad times, remember always to hope for better.
>
> Tranquillis rebus semper adversa timeto,
> Rursus in adversis melius sperare memento.
>
>
> Valete,
> Julia
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "livia_plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> I posted this in the Latinitas list, but then I realized that I'd better post it here too, because at least one good friend of mine is still banned from that list.
> More reports about Floralia are forthcoming.
>
> L. Livia Plauta omnibus sodalibus S.P:D.
>
> Over the weekend, as we announced on many lists already, we Novi Romani from Pannonia had a big role in the Floralia festival at the Aquincum Museum here in Budapest.
> We held a big sacrifice to various gods in honour of the two-thousandth anniversary of the creation of Pannonia, we held a roman fashion show, we demonstrated how a roman marriage by confarreatio and a trial took place.
>
> We had guests from three countries: Sex. Lucilius Tutor and his girlfriend from the Czech Republic, A. Apollonius Cordus from London, and C. Petronius Dexter from Paris.
>
> The good news is that four of us: A. Apollonius Cordus, C. Petronius Dexter, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and myself were able to speak Latin for hours on end, at the festival location, at the restaurant, and at my place.
> I knew the three men I mentioned are all excellent latinists, and I had no doubt they could speak Latin fluently, but the biggest surprise for me came from myself. I didn't consider myself latine loquens, so I was quite surprised when I found myself speaking Latin, with mistakes, of course, and having to ask help for words or phrases, but for hours, and on every sort of topic.
> I think the biggest merit goes to Cordus, who is so dedicated to living latin that he answers in latin even when addressed in English.
>
> Anyway one of my biggest dreams came true this weekend, the dream of being able to learn Latin the way living languages are usually learned, by interaction with a community of speakers, by trial and error, in connection with everyday situations.
>
> This demonstrates that the goals Avitus and Scholastica pursue, of having a community that speaks Latin naturally, as a means of communication, is actually reachable in reality and within Nova Roma.
>
> All of us (the four people mentioned above) made a vow to meet again as soon as possible in the future and continue speaking Latin, as we had such a wonderful time together.
>
> I now have to consider myself latine loquens, but unfortunately I'm not latine scribens yet.
> That's why I'm writing this here and not to the Nova Roma latina mailing list.
> I realized I'm much more shy in writing, and I don't dare see my mistakes in black on white, so for the moment the situation with my Latin is similar to that of my French: I can talk but not write.
> So far, my spoken French is still way better than my Latin, but I hope that will change soon.
>
> Optime valete,
> Livia
>

Quaestors assignment for 2762 AVC

• Quaestor P. Annaeus Placidus Constantinus is assigned to Praetor P. Memmius Albucius
• Quaestor Titus Flavius Aquila is assigned to the Aedile Curule L. Coruncanius Cato
• Quaestor Lucius Gratius Nerva is assigned to the Aedile Plebis M. Arminius Maior
  

Given under our hands this 25th day of May 2762 a.u.c. (AD 2009 ) in the consulship of M. Curiatio and M. Iulio

M. Curiatius Complutensis

M. Iulius Severus

Consules

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "livia_plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> I posted this in the Latinitas list, but then I realized that I'd better post it here too, because at least one good friend of mine is still banned from that list.
> More reports about Floralia are forthcoming.
>
> L. Livia Plauta omnibus sodalibus S.P:D.
>
> Over the weekend, as we announced on many lists already, we Novi Romani from Pannonia had a big role in the Floralia festival at the Aquincum Museum here in Budapest.
> We held a big sacrifice to various gods in honour of the two-thousandth anniversary of the creation of Pannonia, we held a roman fashion show, we demonstrated how a roman marriage by confarreatio and a trial took place.
>
> We had guests from three countries: Sex. Lucilius Tutor and his girlfriend from the Czech Republic, A. Apollonius Cordus from London, and C. Petronius Dexter from Paris.
>
> The good news is that four of us: A. Apollonius Cordus, C. Petronius Dexter, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and myself were able to speak Latin for hours on end, at the festival location, at the restaurant, and at my place.
> I knew the three men I mentioned are all excellent latinists, and I had no doubt they could speak Latin fluently, but the biggest surprise for me came from myself. I didn't consider myself latine loquens, so I was quite surprised when I found myself speaking Latin, with mistakes, of course, and having to ask help for words or phrases, but for hours, and on every sort of topic.
> I think the biggest merit goes to Cordus, who is so dedicated to living latin that he answers in latin even when addressed in English.
>
> Anyway one of my biggest dreams came true this weekend, the dream of being able to learn Latin the way living languages are usually learned, by interaction with a community of speakers, by trial and error, in connection with everyday situations.
>
> This demonstrates that the goals Avitus and Scholastica pursue, of having a community that speaks Latin naturally, as a means of communication, is actually reachable in reality and within Nova Roma.
>
> All of us (the four people mentioned above) made a vow to meet again as soon as possible in the future and continue speaking Latin, as we had such a wonderful time together.
>
> I now have to consider myself latine loquens, but unfortunately I'm not latine scribens yet.
> That's why I'm writing this here and not to the Nova Roma latina mailing list.
> I realized I'm much more shy in writing, and I don't dare see my mistakes in black on white, so for the moment the situation with my Latin is similar to that of my French: I can talk but not write.
> So far, my spoken French is still way better than my Latin, but I hope that will change soon.
>
> Optime valete,
> Livia
>

Salvete

FYI

From the NR Wiki

IRC chat

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>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> A bit of comedy first:
> Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe performed by the Beatles
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpEZM6OEvI
>
>
> This is the tale of Theseus and Ariadne, and Greek but I thought I would slip it in, I suppose I could say it is Plutarch's version thereby it would be by a Greek who was a Roman citizen... anyway it is very enjoyable despite the language barrier, I was told it was filmed in Greece but it's Spain, and the costumes and scenery are beautiful. Oh and please forgive the occasional use of tennis shoes.:
> Pars 1
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_5DS4bS3ds&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Feclassics%2Ening%2Ecom2Fvideo2Fo2Dminotayros&feature=player_embedded
> I did not include Par 2 because most of it is credits.
>
> Valete,
> Julia
>

>
> Salvete,
> oohh! Julia Aquila had to post a flood of interesting posts and links just when I was unable to read email because of real-life occupation with Floralia!
>
> But now I had time to watch these. I have to say the Beatles video was totally incomprehensible, unlike the video on Theseus and Ariadne.
> It's worth seeing the last part too of the latter:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thya22SNCcg&feature=related
> True, it has the credits, but also the end of the story.
>
> Judging from the credits this is a school project by first-year Catalonian high-school students.
> Congratulations to them! They have a beautiful and clear pronunciation and everything is perfectly understandable. They used very basic vocabulary, which is almost totally the same in modern Greek too. The plus is that Spanish and Greek accents are really very similar, so it makes their project more credible. What a little jewel!
>
> I wish we had done something like that at high school! True, there weren't the technical means to make videos back then, but our Latin and Greek teacher never thought to make us do a play.
>
> Maybe our new aedilis curulis could go do some recruiting for NR among last year students in that school. Surely we need people like that in NR!
>
> Valete,
> Livia
>
> >
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > A bit of comedy first:
> > Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe performed by the Beatles
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpEZM6OEvI
> >
> >
> > This is the tale of Theseus and Ariadne, and Greek but I thought I would slip it in, I suppose I could say it is Plutarch's version thereby it would be by a Greek who was a Roman citizen... anyway it is very enjoyable despite the language barrier, I was told it was filmed in Greece but it's Spain, and the costumes and scenery are beautiful. Oh and please forgive the occasional use of tennis shoes.:
> > Pars 1
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_5DS4bS3ds&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Feclassics%2Ening%2Ecom2Fvideo2Fo2Dminotayros&feature=player_embedded
> > I did not include Par 2 because most of it is credits.
> >
> > Valete,
> > Julia
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Maria Caeca" <shoshanahathaway@...> wrote:
>
> salvete omnes,
>
> OK, I inadvertently provided some incorrect information, which I will now correct, with apologies.
>
> The chat room is private, however, the owner of it allows the Aedils to operate it. any citizen can use it, at any time, and I have many totally apolitical, enjoyable, informal conversations there. It will be what the people who use it make of it, but if citizens would feel more comfortable, perhaps NR could set up it's own official room where everyone would feel comfortable.
>
> Valete,
> C. Maria Caeca
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "livia_plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
> oohh! Julia Aquila had to post a flood of interesting posts and links just when I was unable to read email because of real-life occupation with Floralia!
>
> But now I had time to watch these. I have to say the Beatles video was totally incomprehensible, unlike the video on Theseus and Ariadne.
> It's worth seeing the last part too of the latter:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thya22SNCcg&feature=related
> True, it has the credits, but also the end of the story.
>
> Judging from the credits this is a school project by first-year Catalonian high-school students.
> Congratulations to them! They have a beautiful and clear pronunciation and everything is perfectly understandable. They used very basic vocabulary, which is almost totally the same in modern Greek too. The plus is that Spanish and Greek accents are really very similar, so it makes their project more credible. What a little jewel!
>
> I wish we had done something like that at high school! True, there weren't the technical means to make videos back then, but our Latin and Greek teacher never thought to make us do a play.
>
> Maybe our new aedilis curulis could go do some recruiting for NR among last year students in that school. Surely we need people like that in NR!
>
> Valete,
> Livia
>
> >
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > A bit of comedy first:
> > Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe performed by the Beatles
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpEZM6OEvI
> >
> >
> > This is the tale of Theseus and Ariadne, and Greek but I thought I would slip it in, I suppose I could say it is Plutarch's version thereby it would be by a Greek who was a Roman citizen... anyway it is very enjoyable despite the language barrier, I was told it was filmed in Greece but it's Spain, and the costumes and scenery are beautiful. Oh and please forgive the occasional use of tennis shoes.:
> > Pars 1
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_5DS4bS3ds&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Feclassics%2Ening%2Ecom2Fvideo2Fo2Dminotayros&feature=player_embedded
> > I did not include Par 2 because most of it is credits.
> >
> > Valete,
> > Julia
> >
>

>
> Salvete
> FYI
>> From the NR Wiki
> IRC chat
> Each Market Day, all citizens are invited to the IRC chat sessions. While this service is available at any time, it is hoped that by choosing a particular time, more people will participate then, and a large number of people can be encountered at once.
>
> There are two recommended times to participate on Market Days:
>
>
> 7 PM (19:00) Roman Time (GMT + 1) Find your local time
> 7 PM (19:00) US/Central (GMT - 6; 8 PM Eastern, 5 PM Pacific) Find your local time
> To join the chat, download an IRC client and go to the URL irc://irc.novaroma.org/NovaRoma . Further details about the software, the channel, and setting your name can be found at the IRC (Nova Roma) article.
>
>
>
>
>
> Valete
>
>
>
> Paulinus
>
>
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: shoshanahathaway@...
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:02:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: our untapped resource
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> salvete omnes,
>
> OK, I inadvertently provided some incorrect information, which I will now correct, with apologies.
>
> The chat room is private, however, the owner of it allows the Aedils to operate it. any citizen can use it, at any time, and I have many totally apolitical, enjoyable, informal conversations there. It will be what the people who use it make of it, but if citizens would feel more comfortable, perhaps NR could set up it's own official room where everyone would feel comfortable.
>
> Valete,
> C. Maria Caeca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>
> Would you please list my title correctly. I am not JUST an accountant. I am the Comptroller of the construction company. The title on my business card says Comptroller. :)
>
> Essentially I run the office and am empowered to sign contracts, change orders. Deal with retention related issues (construction terminology). I also deal with AR/AP, HR, Benefits analysis, filing the 940s, 941s, 1120s, making sure our annual report is filed yearly. Legal issues ranging from collections, filing and enforcing liens, going after bonds, suing contractors for non-payment. Insurance related matters (workers comp, general liability, commercial umbrella policies) as well as medical, dental and vision insurance for our employees. I also coordinate with our foremen to make sure they conduct safety meetings, prepare billings for our contractors.
>
> Thank you for trying to diminish my duties and responsibilities. I have been at this job just over 4 years. (I was hired on my B-day May 8th). My iPhone and my previous blackberry allows me the ability to be online ANYWHERE. :) Just like when I was in Israel I was in constant contact with my jobs. And, was able to teach and grade papers while I was out of the country.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Equestria,
> >
> > >That is a remarkably diverse mix of classes and quite impressive. You
> > >must have at least a few degrees and certificates (PhD, MBA, CPA,
> > >etc.) especially to be a confirmed full-time faculty in this job >market.
> >
> > You forgot to mention that Sulla has another job as an accountant for a construction company. He is a jack of all trades, master of none I suppose. However does he have the time with his fingers glued to his i-phone or kb. Wonders never cease!
> > Now that's funnah!
> >
> > Vale,
> > Julia
> >
>

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:38 PM, livia_plauta <livia.plauta@...> wrote:

Salve Sulla,
forgive my ignorance, but it's the second time you write it this way, so I have to ask. Is a "Comptroller" something different from a controller?
Is it by chance a compound word formed by "computer" and "troll", which means somebody who trolls by use of a computer?

Vale,
Livia

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> Salvete
>
> I thought this would be appropriate for this weekend
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJLXKlkvlM
>
> Valete
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
>

Thank you for showing this to me, and reminding me of my early
admiration of Pericles.

Here is the full text, in English translation:
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/GREECE/PERICLES.HTM

Benedicte - Venator

>
> I posted this in the Latinitas list, but then I realized that I'd better post it here too, because at least one good friend of mine is still banned from that list.
> More reports about Floralia are forthcoming.
>
> L. Livia Plauta omnibus sodalibus S.P:D.
>
> Over the weekend, as we announced on many lists already, we Novi Romani from Pannonia had a big role in the Floralia festival at the Aquincum Museum here in Budapest.
> We held a big sacrifice to various gods in honour of the two-thousandth anniversary of the creation of Pannonia, we held a roman fashion show, we demonstrated how a roman marriage by confarreatio and a trial took place.
>
> We had guests from three countries: Sex. Lucilius Tutor and his girlfriend from the Czech Republic, A. Apollonius Cordus from London, and C. Petronius Dexter from Paris.
>
> The good news is that four of us: A. Apollonius Cordus, C. Petronius Dexter, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and myself were able to speak Latin for hours on end, at the festival location, at the restaurant, and at my place.
> I knew the three men I mentioned are all excellent latinists, and I had no doubt they could speak Latin fluently, but the biggest surprise for me came from myself. I didn't consider myself latine loquens, so I was quite surprised when I found myself speaking Latin, with mistakes, of course, and having to ask help for words or phrases, but for hours, and on every sort of topic.
> I think the biggest merit goes to Cordus, who is so dedicated to living latin that he answers in latin even when addressed in English.
>
> Anyway one of my biggest dreams came true this weekend, the dream of being able to learn Latin the way living languages are usually learned, by interaction with a community of speakers, by trial and error, in connection with everyday situations.
>
> This demonstrates that the goals Avitus and Scholastica pursue, of having a community that speaks Latin naturally, as a means of communication, is actually reachable in reality and within Nova Roma.
>
> All of us (the four people mentioned above) made a vow to meet again as soon as possible in the future and continue speaking Latin, as we had such a wonderful time together.
>
> I now have to consider myself latine loquens, but unfortunately I'm not latine scribens yet.
> That's why I'm writing this here and not to the Nova Roma latina mailing list.
> I realized I'm much more shy in writing, and I don't dare see my mistakes in black on white, so for the moment the situation with my Latin is similar to that of my French: I can talk but not write.
> So far, my spoken French is still way better than my Latin, but I hope that will change soon.
>
> Optime valete,
> Livia
>

>
> There are Roman mosaics or paintings where women are dressed in swimming and gymn attire. It looks exactly like a bikini. The picture I have in mind has two women dressed in these black bikini things tossing what loooks like a medicine ball. There is other exercise equipment stuff around. Off to one corner, another woman in the same black bikini thing is seating with her legs in a pool-bath?
>  
> At one point, I was actually going to look up whether this Roman "bikini" was actually the ancestor to the modern bikini. But I never got around to it..
>
>
>
>
>  
>

>
> There were separate baths and some co-ed one of my books claims. The baths were actually like our modern shopping malls -- besides baths, they art shops, art galleries, cafes, and something you would not find in our malls -- rooms for sex. I find it a deep
> source of bemused irony that the basilica, which was the type of bulding these baths-malls-and sex rooms were housed, became the model of the Christian church because they did not want to "contaminate" their buidings by modelling them after a Roman temple.
>
> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, L Julia Aquila <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: L Julia Aquila <dis_pensible@...>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: our untapped resource
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 7:05 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Iulia Mariae Semproni S.P.D.
>
> Sounds good to me also.
> But allow me to play the devil's advocate here, something I nevvverrrr do, *laugh* and ask a question.
> This is not going to be historically accurate so it would be a co-ed Roman bath, correct? This I might attend from time to time;)
>
> Valete,
> Julia
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com, "A. Sempronius Regulus" <asempronius. regulus@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Sigh! Why couldn't it be a Roman Bath?
> >
> > --- On Sat, 5/23/09, L Julia Aquila <dis_pensible@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: L Julia Aquila <dis_pensible@ ...>
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: our untapped resource
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com
> > Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 6:37 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Salve Mariae,
> >
> > Thank you for this information.
> >
> > Vale optime,
> > Julia
> >
>

> NR is your life? Seriously? NR is your life? So what would happen if NR ceased to exist? Would the purpose of your life be snuffed out and you would have no reason to live?
>
> Is that point of view really healthy? This is a voluntary internet corporation and you place it with such importance that it is YOUR LIFE?

A. Tullia Scholastica L. Liviae Plautae quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
  

  

I posted this in the Latinitas list, but then I realized that I'd better post it here too, because at least one good friend of mine is still banned from that list.

    ATS:  There is very good reason to post this on the ML quite independent of said situation.  This deserves a far wider audience.  Moreover, if said party can behave herself, she might be readmitted.  

More reports about Floralia are forthcoming.

L. Livia Plauta omnibus sodalibus S.P:D.

Over the weekend, as we announced on many lists already, we Novi Romani from Pannonia had a big role in the Floralia festival at the Aquincum Museum here in Budapest.
We held a big sacrifice to various gods in honour of the two-thousandth anniversary of the creation of Pannonia, we held a roman fashion show, we demonstrated how a roman marriage by confarreatio and a trial took place.

We had guests from three countries: Sex. Lucilius Tutor and his girlfriend from the Czech Republic, A. Apollonius Cordus from London, and C. Petronius Dexter from Paris.

The good news is that four of us: A. Apollonius Cordus, C. Petronius Dexter, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and myself were able to speak Latin for hours on end, at the festival location, at the restaurant, and at my place.
I knew the three men I mentioned are all excellent latinists, and I had no doubt they could speak Latin fluently, but the biggest surprise for me came from myself. I didn't consider myself latine loquens, so I was quite surprised when I found myself speaking Latin, with mistakes, of course, and having to ask help for words or phrases, but for hours, and on every sort of topic.

    ATS: See, you might surprise even yourself on these matters.  Take Sermo next year...


I think the biggest merit goes to Cordus, who is so dedicated to living latin that he answers in latin even when addressed in English.

    ATS:  Indeed, he is a fine Latinist, and it is wonderful to see him becoming a bit more active in NR once again.  

Anyway one of my biggest dreams came true this weekend, the dream of being able to learn Latin the way living languages are usually learned, by interaction with a community of speakers, by trial and error, in connection with everyday situations.

This demonstrates that the goals Avitus and Scholastica pursue, of having a community that speaks Latin naturally, as a means of communication, is actually reachable in reality and within Nova Roma.

    ATS:  Indeed.  I spoke Latin daily with Cordus, Amatius Paulus, and Astur at Conventus V in Britannia, though apparently less extensively than you did.  Cordus should have some recordings, at least some of which were supposed to be included in a podcast which never was produced.  I have also participated in an entire week of spoken Latin at Latin immersion in Seattle.  There are numerous immersion experiences every summer in several European locations and some in the US (Seattle/Wenatchee, Lexington, KY, and Rusticatio Virginiana, which has one week for advanced speakers and one for beginners).  I believe there are some in California and elsewhere as well.  I heartily recommend these to anyone who wishes to learn modern, spoken, living Latin.  There were beginners at the conventiculum I attended, and I understand that there was a 12 or 14 year old the next year, so one should not be afraid that one will make mistakes.  The moderator of the Seattle one is very kind, generous, and tolerant, and never criticized anyone for errors.  

All of us (the four people mentioned above) made a vow to meet again as soon as possible in the future and continue speaking Latin, as we had such a wonderful time together.

I now have to consider myself latine loquens, but unfortunately I'm not latine scribens yet.
That's why I'm writing this here and not to the Nova Roma latina mailing list.

    ATS:  Surely you don’t think that everyone there is perfect?  Only our deity approaches that, but he admits to errors and is much more modest than one might assume.  He has also had to leave even that list, as Lentulus may have informed you.  

I realized I'm much more shy in writing, and I don't dare see my mistakes in black on white, so for the moment the situation with my Latin is similar to that of my French: I can talk but not write.

    ATS:  I have seen errors in Latin on another list you frequent, where most do not know Latin...

So far, my spoken French is still way better than my Latin, but I hope that will change soon.

    ATS:  Let us hope that it is not to the detriment of your spoken French!  I would like more practice in that, too.  Perhaps you are too shy on this matter...

Optime valete,
Livia

  Vale, et valete.  
    

     
   Messages in this topic           <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/66011

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
>
> I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> ago.
>
> Again I appreciate your support.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:36 AM, fabiadrusilla <fabiadrusilla@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > QFabiusMaxmi@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No he's not. His term would be illegal. Now go to your room!
> > >
> > > Q. Fabius Maximus
> > > Paterfamilius
> > >
> >
> > Why should I go to my room? Go you! What? Just men can say in this list?
> >
> > Is this what Nova Roman women can expect if we allow Equitius Cato is
> > elected?
> >
> > Fabio Maximo, really your message is a sexist insult.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Quinta Fabia Drusilla
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Maria Caeca" <shoshanahathaway@> wrote:
> >
>
> > You can find and download the IRC software which is called Mirc by simply
> > doing a Google search on the term Mirc. Once you have done so and installed
> > it, simply go to IRC.freenode.net and then type /join #NovaRoma. That's it.
> > Believe me, if *I* could do it, anyone on this list (or a 4 year old who has
> > never touched a computer before, can).
> >
> > Valete Bene,
> > C. Maria Caeca
> >
>
>
> Except it's run by the BA rats, so unless you're on good terms with those trolls, they'll stop you from participating.
>
> I was muted within 3 minutes.
>
> -Anna
>

> Ñåãîäíÿ â Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû ìû óäîñòîèì è âñïîìèíàåì âñå èç íàøèõ âîèñê ñòðàí êîòîðûå ïîæåðòâîâàëè èõ æèçíè äëÿ èõ ñòðàíû. ß æåëàþ ðàñøèðèòü íàøè ìûñëè ê âñåì òåì êîòîðûõ ïîòåðÿéòå èõ æèçíè äëÿ è óïàäèòå äëÿ Sarmatia òàêæå. Ìàé èõ ïîääà÷è íå íàõîäèòüñÿ â òùåòíîì.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Cornelius Cicero" <Cicero@...> wrote:
>
> Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@> wrote:
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
> >
> > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> > He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> > acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> > ago.
> >
> > Again I appreciate your support.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:36 AM, fabiadrusilla <fabiadrusilla@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > QFabiusMaxmi@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No he's not. His term would be illegal. Now go to your room!
> > > >
> > > > Q. Fabius Maximus
> > > > Paterfamilius
> > > >
> > >
> > > Why should I go to my room? Go you! What? Just men can say in this list?
> > >
> > > Is this what Nova Roman women can expect if we allow Equitius Cato is
> > > elected?
> > >
> > > Fabio Maximo, really your message is a sexist insult.
> > >
> > > Vale
> > >
> > > Quinta Fabia Drusilla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Mariae Caecae,
>
> Thank you for the correction, that was what I thought originally - that the irc chat is private.
> Citizens might be more comfortable in an official Nova Roma chatroom so i believe that would be a good option.
>
> Vale,
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Maria Caeca" <shoshanahathaway@> wrote:
> >
> > salvete omnes,
> >
> > OK, I inadvertently provided some incorrect information, which I will now correct, with apologies.
> >
> > The chat room is private, however, the owner of it allows the Aedils to operate it. any citizen can use it, at any time, and I have many totally apolitical, enjoyable, informal conversations there. It will be what the people who use it make of it, but if citizens would feel more comfortable, perhaps NR could set up it's own official room where everyone would feel comfortable.
> >
> > Valete,
> > C. Maria Caeca
> >
>

>
> You sure do love twisting the truth, don't you? I and other witnesses were there. You were moderated because you joined and immediately started trolling. You were removed from moderation a minute later and have kept your cool for the most part and thus have avoided moderation. You've been there for days and apart from when you first started causing trouble, no one has done anything to you.
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@> wrote:
> >
> > You sure do love twisting the truth, don't you? I and other witnesses were there. You were moderated because you joined and immediately started trolling. You were removed from moderation a minute later and have kept your cool for the most part and thus have avoided moderation. You've been there for days and apart from when you first started causing trouble, no one has done anything to you.
> >
>
>
> No I was muted by metellus because he thought I was a troll on account of you and sulla telling him I'm a neo-nazi troll. He spoke with me after and realized he made a mistake. I made that post when I got muted.
>
> The only thing I said when I first signed on was "Of course sulla is here". and "I'm not a neo nazi" and "I'm not a troll", etc. I'm praraphrasing of course, I don't have the saved logs from the chat.
>
> So, how is anything I said trolling?
>
> And the fact that I haven't been muted since indicates I'm not a troll at all, despite being called "stupid", "idiot", and "retarded", because I disagree on the "consecutive" issue.
>
> Good job troll.
>
> -Anna
>

>
> That you haven't been muted yet is solely on account of Metellus and my policy on allowing people to talk despite disagreeing with them...unlike what the Main List went through just recently.
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Mariae Caecae,
>
> Thank you for the correction, that was what I thought originally - that the irc chat is private.
> Citizens might be more comfortable in an official Nova Roma chatroom so i believe that would be a good option.
>
> Vale,
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Maria Caeca" <shoshanahathaway@> wrote:
> >
> > salvete omnes,
> >
> > OK, I inadvertently provided some incorrect information, which I will now correct, with apologies.
> >
> > The chat room is private, however, the owner of it allows the Aediles to operate it. any citizen can use it, at any time, and I have many totally apolitical, enjoyable, informal conversations there. It will be what the people who use it make of it, but if citizens would feel more comfortable, perhaps NR could set up it's own official room where everyone would feel comfortable.
> >
> > Valete,
> > C. Maria Caeca
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
Anna has the sole distinction of being moderated on account of her trolling, and furthermore because she's not a civis there's much less tolerance for her.
>


I wasn't moderated for trolling. Metellus apologized for muting me and said he had been rash. Funny how I'm not called an idiot or troll or retarded by anyone else but you and sulla.

-Anna

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Gaius Petronius Dexter <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:

C. Petronius L. Sullae s.p.d.,

> NR is your life? Seriously? NR is your life? So what would happen if NR ceased to exist? Would the purpose of your life be snuffed out and you would have no reason to live?
>
> Is that point of view really healthy? This is a voluntary internet corporation and you place it with such importance that it is YOUR LIFE?

It is more than an internet corporation, Sulla. I came back today from Aquincum where I was three days with nova Roman citizens, real and living. I spoke Latin with Lentulus, Cordus and Livia. We made many things for Nova Roma in real life in Budapest/Aquincum.

Above all we performed the sacra of the Floralia with true dutifulness and faith. The audience at the ceremony in this Sunday were certainly most important than the audience at the same time to the mass at Paris in Notre Dame.

Vale.
C. Petronius Dexter

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:

On the upside, Modianus let it out that he's a girl now.

I quote:

> > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.

Looks like Aeternia's comment about Modianus, er I mean Modiana needing midol was spot on.

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Lucius Cornelius Cicero <Cicero@...> wrote:

Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
>
> I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> ago.
>
> Again I appreciate your support.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Ciceroni salutem dicit
>
> Sometimes a joke is appropriate and sometimes it is not. If Quintus Fabius
> Maximus had known and been friends with Quinta Fabia Drusilla that might
> have been one thing, but I suspect he is not; therefore, he has not earned
> the right to joke in the sexist manner in which he did. He is also NOT the
> pater familias of Gens Fabia. He is ONLY the pater familias of ONE --
> himself.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Lucius Cornelius Cicero
> <Cicero@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and
> > turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, David
> > Kling <tau.athanasios@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
> > >
> > > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> > > He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> > > acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> > > ago.
> > >
> > > Again I appreciate your support.
> > >
> > > Vale;
> > >
> > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Steve Moore <astrobear@...> wrote:

M. Valerius Potitus Caeso Fabio Buteo Modiano SPD.

 

Today you wrote, “Nova Roma is about people.  Bringing people together who have a common love of Rome and her history and culture.  The mud slinging and the fighting is only ancilliary to what it is all really about!”

 

I hope you remember these words if you are elected Censor.

 

Vale,

Potitus

>
>
>
> Today you wrote, "Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who
> have a common love of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging
> and the fighting is only ancilliary to what it is all really about!"
>
>
>
> I hope you remember these words if you are elected Censor.
>
>
>
> Vale,
>
> Potitus
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of David Kling
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:41 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Sulla's rebuttal - Re: Nova-Roma is life
>
>
>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus C. Petronio salutem dicit
>
> Exactly. Nova Roma is NOT simply an on-line thing. Several years ago I
> attended a provincial event that included an oratory competition between
> Marcus Octavius Gracchus and Marcus Bianchius Antonius at a park in
> Columbus, Ohio. I now live in Columbus (just north actually) and was at a
> local park with my girlfriend. I looked over and said, "Oh. That was the
> site of an oratory competition and provincial event in Nova Roma." I stood
> there and thought about that occassion pleasantly. It is memories like that
> one, and others, that have captivated me -- and drawn me closer to the dream
> of Nova Roma.
>
> Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who have a common love
> of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging and the fighting is
> only ancilliary to what it is all really about!
>
> I'm pleased you had a good time at the Floralia, and I commend Lentulus for
> organizing such a wonderful event. It is my hope to eventually come to
> Europe and connect with Nova Romans there!
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@...> wrote:
>
> And now I'm banned, by the troll poplicola. I guess he wasn't serious about his "tolerating peolpe who disagree".
>
> This untapped resource is probably untapped because of this nonsense.
>
>
> -Anna
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
> If anyone wants to know the truth, they may ask me, but I don't suffer trolls.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@> wrote:
> >
> > And now I'm banned, by the troll poplicola. I guess he wasn't serious about his "tolerating peolpe who disagree".
> >
> > This untapped resource is probably untapped because of this nonsense.
> >
> >
> > -Anna
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Modiane et omnes:
> thanks for that I appreciate it, Poplicola and Maximus aren't very respectful of women and furthermore viri take the sexist talk to Tartarus, the matrones of Nova Roma deserve your respect.
> bene valete in pacem deorum
> Marca Hortensia Maior
>
>
>
>
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Ciceroni salutem dicit
> >
> > Sometimes a joke is appropriate and sometimes it is not. If Quintus Fabius
> > Maximus had known and been friends with Quinta Fabia Drusilla that might
> > have been one thing, but I suspect he is not; therefore, he has not earned
> > the right to joke in the sexist manner in which he did. He is also NOT the
> > pater familias of Gens Fabia. He is ONLY the pater familias of ONE --
> > himself.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Lucius Cornelius Cicero
> > <Cicero@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and
> > > turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, David
> > > Kling <tau.athanasios@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
> > > >
> > > > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> > > > He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> > > > acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> > > > ago.
> > > >
> > > > Again I appreciate your support.
> > > >
> > > > Vale;
> > > >
> > > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Q. Valerio Poplicolae salutem dicit
>
> Since you have not been around long you would have understood. All the gens
> were listed in the old gens listing, before the gens reform, in the
> feminine. For example, I was previously in Gens Modia not Gens Modius. I
> was a Modius being male, but the gens was referred to as Gens Modius.
> Likewise, all gens were referred to in the feminine for example, Gens
> Cassia, Fabia, Equitia, et al. That is how they were listed and that is how
> they were referred to.
>
> Your attempt at humor simply is not funny, and shows your newness. You
> really are a jerk I see. You're in good complany in the Back Alley. Your
> kind of people.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Q. Valerius Poplicola <
> q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On the upside, Modianus let it out that he's a girl now.
> >
> > I quote:
> >
> >
> > > > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater
> > familias.
> >
> > Looks like Aeternia's comment about Modianus, er I mean Modiana needing
> > midol was spot on.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete;
> he's been censor and he conducted himself with impartiality and dignitas.
> now please let's not have a hate-Modianus/Cato exercise. Talk about positive aspects of your candidate.
> Marca Hortensia Maior
> >
> >
> >
> > Today you wrote, "Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who
> > have a common love of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging
> > and the fighting is only ancilliary to what it is all really about!"
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope you remember these words if you are elected Censor.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Potitus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of David Kling
> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:41 PM
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Sulla's rebuttal - Re: Nova-Roma is life
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus C. Petronio salutem dicit
> >
> > Exactly. Nova Roma is NOT simply an on-line thing. Several years ago I
> > attended a provincial event that included an oratory competition between
> > Marcus Octavius Gracchus and Marcus Bianchius Antonius at a park in
> > Columbus, Ohio. I now live in Columbus (just north actually) and was at a
> > local park with my girlfriend. I looked over and said, "Oh. That was the
> > site of an oratory competition and provincial event in Nova Roma." I stood
> > there and thought about that occassion pleasantly. It is memories like that
> > one, and others, that have captivated me -- and drawn me closer to the dream
> > of Nova Roma.
> >
> > Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who have a common love
> > of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging and the fighting is
> > only ancilliary to what it is all really about!
> >
> > I'm pleased you had a good time at the Floralia, and I commend Lentulus for
> > organizing such a wonderful event. It is my hope to eventually come to
> > Europe and connect with Nova Romans there!
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, violetphearsen@... wrote:
>
>
> I agree. I have sometimes been appalled by the lack of respect shown to the women of Nova Roma by some of the men. Sexist jokes are never funny.
> And Modianus is right. I remember when I joined, all the Gens were listed in the feminine form.
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Maior <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Maior <rory12001@...>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: MY SUPPORT FOR K. FABIUS BUTEO MODIANUS
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:42 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salvete Modiane et omnes:
> thanks for that I appreciate it, Poplicola and Maximus aren't very respectful of women and furthermore viri take the sexist talk to Tartarus, the matrones of Nova Roma deserve your respect.
> bene valete in pacem deorum
> Marca Hortensia Maior
>
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Ciceroni salutem dicit
> >
> > Sometimes a joke is appropriate and sometimes it is not. If Quintus Fabius
> > Maximus had known and been friends with Quinta Fabia Drusilla that might
> > have been one thing, but I suspect he is not; therefore, he has not earned
> > the right to joke in the sexist manner in which he did. He is also NOT the
> > pater familias of Gens Fabia. He is ONLY the pater familias of ONE --
> > himself.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Lucius Cornelius Cicero
> > <Cicero@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and
> > > turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogrou ps.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoog roups.com> , David
> > > Kling <tau.athanasios@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
> > > >
> > > > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> > > > He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> > > > acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> > > > ago.
> > > >
> > > > Again I appreciate your support.
> > > >
> > > > Vale;
> > > >
> > > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete;
> he's been censor and he conducted himself with impartiality and dignitas.
> now please let's not have a hate-Modianus/Cato exercise. Talk about positive aspects of your candidate.
> Marca Hortensia Maior
> >
> >
> >
> > Today you wrote, "Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who
> > have a common love of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging
> > and the fighting is only ancilliary to what it is all really about!"
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope you remember these words if you are elected Censor.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Potitus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of David Kling
> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:41 PM
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Sulla's rebuttal - Re: Nova-Roma is life
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus C. Petronio salutem dicit
> >
> > Exactly. Nova Roma is NOT simply an on-line thing. Several years ago I
> > attended a provincial event that included an oratory competition between
> > Marcus Octavius Gracchus and Marcus Bianchius Antonius at a park in
> > Columbus, Ohio. I now live in Columbus (just north actually) and was at a
> > local park with my girlfriend. I looked over and said, "Oh. That was the
> > site of an oratory competition and provincial event in Nova Roma." I stood
> > there and thought about that occassion pleasantly. It is memories like that
> > one, and others, that have captivated me -- and drawn me closer to the dream
> > of Nova Roma.
> >
> > Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who have a common love
> > of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging and the fighting is
> > only ancilliary to what it is all really about!
> >
> > I'm pleased you had a good time at the Floralia, and I commend Lentulus for
> > organizing such a wonderful event. It is my hope to eventually come to
> > Europe and connect with Nova Romans there!
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@> wrote:
> Anna has the sole distinction of being moderated on account of her trolling, and furthermore because she's not a civis there's much less tolerance for her.
> >
>
>
> I wasn't moderated for trolling. Metellus apologized for muting me and said he had been rash. Funny how I'm not called an idiot or troll or retarded by anyone else but you and sulla.
>
> -Anna
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@...> wrote:
>
> And now I'm banned, by the troll poplicola. I guess he wasn't serious about his "tolerating peolpe who disagree".
>
> This untapped resource is probably untapped because of this nonsense.
>
>
> -Anna
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Q. Valerius Poplicola" <q.valerius.poplicola@...> wrote:
>
> Cato has not done anything to jeopardize our organization; Modianus broke both Nova Roma and US law. Cato has as a Christian promoted the Religio Romana, Modianus only knows how to bash Christianity. Cato has promoted many ideas about law reform to better our organization; Modianus took a break because life was too hectic for him at the time, and now only is running to spite Cato.
>
> Regardless of whether Modianus' candidacy is legal or illegal, he's clearly the inferior candidate.
>
> GO CATO!
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete;
> > he's been censor and he conducted himself with impartiality and dignitas.
> > now please let's not have a hate-Modianus/Cato exercise. Talk about positive aspects of your candidate.
> > Marca Hortensia Maior
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Today you wrote, "Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who
> > > have a common love of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging
> > > and the fighting is only ancilliary to what it is all really about!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope you remember these words if you are elected Censor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Potitus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of David Kling
> > > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:41 PM
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Sulla's rebuttal - Re: Nova-Roma is life
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus C. Petronio salutem dicit
> > >
> > > Exactly. Nova Roma is NOT simply an on-line thing. Several years ago I
> > > attended a provincial event that included an oratory competition between
> > > Marcus Octavius Gracchus and Marcus Bianchius Antonius at a park in
> > > Columbus, Ohio. I now live in Columbus (just north actually) and was at a
> > > local park with my girlfriend. I looked over and said, "Oh. That was the
> > > site of an oratory competition and provincial event in Nova Roma." I stood
> > > there and thought about that occassion pleasantly. It is memories like that
> > > one, and others, that have captivated me -- and drawn me closer to the dream
> > > of Nova Roma.
> > >
> > > Nova Roma is about people. Bringing people together who have a common love
> > > of Rome and her history and culture. The mud slinging and the fighting is
> > > only ancilliary to what it is all really about!
> > >
> > > I'm pleased you had a good time at the Floralia, and I commend Lentulus for
> > > organizing such a wonderful event. It is my hope to eventually come to
> > > Europe and connect with Nova Romans there!
> > >
> > > Vale;
> > >
> > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Lucretius Agricola" <marcus.lucretius@...> wrote:
>
> Agricola omnibus S.P.D.
>
>
>
> I would ask all citizen to read the following message completely.
>
>
>
> Our Lex Fabia de ratione comitiorum centuriatorum says in part:
>
> "A century from the first class shall be selected by lot by the diribitores to vote first. No century containing only one member shall be selected for this purpose. For the first 48 hours of the voting period only members of that century shall be permitted to vote."
>
> This is the "centuria praerogativa" and the diribitores selected centuria XIV, that is, century 14, for this honor.
>
> Since we are still within that first 48 hour period, any votes from citizens OTHER THAN centuria XIV cannot be counted.
>
> IF YOU HAVE VOTED ALREADY, YOUR VOTE CANNOT BE COUNTED UNLESS YOU ARE IN CENTURY 14. Anyone who voted too early will be able to re-vote later, at the correct time. Not sure if you are in this century? Check here: http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album?cmd=show-century¢ury=14
>
> REMEMBER, Your century will have changed just before the election, so you must check your century in the Album Civium http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album . You can simply search for yourself and read your century from your page.
>
>
> Our website explains voting by centuries, and here I have added notes and broken this text down to show clearly the three phases of voting:
>
> 1. During the first forty-eight hours of voting, only [the chosen] century is permitted to vote. At the end of that time, the diribitores will announce the results of the vote as they stand from that century.
>
> 2. Next, the entire first class [that is, centuries 1 through 14, inclusive], becomes eligible to vote. At the end of this second forty-eight hours of voting the diribitores will announce the results of the entire first class.
>
> 3. Finally, all the centuries become eligible to vote, for the remainder of the voting period. At no time in this do the centuria praerogativa or the first class become ineligible to vote. They may vote from the beginning of their voting time to the end of voting.
>
> The schedule for these three phases is posted on the election page, here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Election_Maius_MMDCCLXII_(Nova_Roma)
>
>
>
> Finally, please remember to take note of your BALLOT NUMBER. Problem ballots will be announced by BALLOT NUMBER.
>
>
> Thank you all for reading this and optime valete!
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Maior" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Modiane et omnes:
> thanks for that I appreciate it, Poplicola and Maximus aren't very respectful of women and furthermore viri take the sexist talk to Tartarus, the matrones of Nova Roma deserve your respect.
> bene valete in pacem deorum
> Marca Hortensia Maior
>
>
>
>
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Ciceroni salutem dicit
> >
> > Sometimes a joke is appropriate and sometimes it is not. If Quintus Fabius
> > Maximus had known and been friends with Quinta Fabia Drusilla that might
> > have been one thing, but I suspect he is not; therefore, he has not earned
> > the right to joke in the sexist manner in which he did. He is also NOT the
> > pater familias of Gens Fabia. He is ONLY the pater familias of ONE --
> > himself.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Lucius Cornelius Cicero
> > <Cicero@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and
> > > turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, David
> > > Kling <tau.athanasios@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
> > > >
> > > > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> > > > He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> > > > acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> > > > ago.
> > > >
> > > > Again I appreciate your support.
> > > >
> > > > Vale;
> > > >
> > > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Ciceroni salutem dicit
>
> Sometimes a joke is appropriate and sometimes it is not. If Quintus Fabius
> Maximus had known and been friends with Quinta Fabia Drusilla that might
> have been one thing, but I suspect he is not; therefore, he has not earned
> the right to joke in the sexist manner in which he did. He is also NOT the
> pater familias of Gens Fabia. He is ONLY the pater familias of ONE --
> himself.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Lucius Cornelius Cicero
> <Cicero@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ever heard of a joke, you two? Guess not. Despicable the way you'll try and
> > turn anything into something that can be used for political advantage.
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, David
> > Kling <tau.athanasios@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Quintae Fabiae Drusillae salutem dicit
> > >
> > > I too am now a Fabia and Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT my pater familias.
> > > He is not your pater familias either, and his insinuation that he is
> > > acknowledges he has no understanding of the gens reform of several years
> > > ago.
> > >
> > > Again I appreciate your support.
> > >
> > > Vale;
> > >
> > > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L Julia Aquila" <dis_pensible@...> wrote:
>
> L. Iulia Aquila C. Fabio Buteoni Quintiliano D. Iunio Palladio S.P.D.
>
>
> Thank you for this post.
> It is not just from the great respect I have for my amící, Caeso >Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, although this is a very positive >influence, which brings me to extending the olive branch to my fellow >esteemed citizen, Decius Iunius Palladius.

I accept your olive branch and agree with my old friend Quintilianus that disagreements do not have to be fights, though I would not call political satire a fight. However, the past is the past and it would be productive to move on.

I shall see you all on my return, a month of no email should be a blessing. ;-)

Vale,

Palladius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Woolwine" <l_cornelius_sulla@...> wrote:
>
> Let's also keep in mind. Cato will not peruse personal vendettas. Whereas Modianus has ALWAYS done that (Cincinnatus, Cassius, Me). It's just when he comes to try to deal with me. I will fight back. With Modianus as Censor he will take NR into a lawsuit. NR will lose. Modianus will become homeless. Because I will go after him and every single board member who allowed Modianus to break the law and peruse his vendetta. So, unless the board members are willing to put up their own personal funds. Modianus will be the cause of the one thing that can potentially end the organization- a lawsuit.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>