Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. May 30-31, 2010

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75912 From: rory12001 Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75913 From: Belle Morte Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75914 From: Maxima Valeria Messallina Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75915 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: The Eleventh Consular edict CFBQ on REGISTRATION of participation at
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75916 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: The Twelfth Consular edict CFBQ on Consular edict CFBQ on appointme
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75917 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: CALL FOR SOME CANDIDATES FOR COMITIA POPULI TRIBUTA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75918 From: Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75919 From: C.Maria Caeca Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: call for input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75920 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: ADDITION TO The Eleventh Consular edict CFBQ on REGISTRATION of part
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75921 From: Maxima Valeria Messallina Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: CALL FOR CANDIDATES FOR COMITIA PLEBIS TRIBUTA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75922 From: C.Maria Caeca Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: C. Petonius Dexter ...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75923 From: Cato Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: (no subject)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75924 From: L. Livia Plauta Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75925 From: marcushoratius Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Pridie Kalendas Iunonias: Rosalia; Pudicitia; Ludi Saeculares
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75926 From: Robert Levee Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75927 From: Robert Levee Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75928 From: marcushoratius Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75929 From: Cato Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75930 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75931 From: C.Maria Caeca Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: C. Petronius Dexter ...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75932 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75933 From: L. Livia Plauta Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75934 From: rory12001 Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75935 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Kalends, 6/1/2010, 12:00 am
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75936 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Free Speech



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75912 From: rory12001 Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
M. Hortensia quiritibus spd;
this is a wonderful day! Another Vestal in training. All of us in Nova Roma owe all honour to the Virgo Maxima M. Valeria Messallina and now her new priestess, future vestal: G. Maria Caeca!
There is no Rome without her Vestals.
And I know one day we will gather in Vesta's temple

My deep appreciation to V. Rutilia Enodia for her devotion to Juno Regina, who aids us in war. It was Juno dea who sided with the Romans finally against her city Carthage in the Punic war!

di nobis favent!
M. Hortensia Maior

> Congratulations to Vibia Rutilia Enodia and Gaia Maria Caeca for the
> appointments.
>
> *****
>
> 30 maj 2010 kl. 17.29 skrev Maxima Valeria Messallina:
>
>
> If I may correct one important thing:
>
> Gaia Maria Caeca is adlected Sacerdos Vestalis in addition to being
> under the training of Maxima Valeria Messallina, Virgo Vestalis Maxima.
>
> Congratulations to both Gaia Maria Caeca and Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria
> and I thank them for their willingness to serve the Religo Romana and
> our Res publica.
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
> Sacerdos Vestalis
> Virgo Maxima
>
>
>
>
>
> <<--- On Sun, 5/30/10, marcushoratius <MHoratius@...> wrote:
>
> M. Moravius Horatianus Pontifex Maximus Censoribus, Civibus Novae
> Romae, Quiritibus, gentilibus Romanis, cultoribus Deorum et omnibus:
> salutem plurimam dicit.
>
> The Collegium Pontificum having twice met in the month of May has, by
> a unanimous vote, accepted Vibia Rutilia Enodia and Gaia Maria Caeca
> into the Camillus Program.
>
> Gratulor, et optimam fortunam vos exopto. Gratias vos agit res publica.
>
> V. Rutilia Enodia, an aeditua of the Temple of Juno shall train to
> become a sacerdos of Juno. C. Maria Caeca shall be under the
> instruction of Virgo Maxima Vestalis Maxima Valeria Messallina to
> become a Vestal Virgin.
>
> Our thanks to both for their willingness to serve the Gods and Nova
> Roma.
>
> In other matters, one Item on the Collegium's Agenda was tabled to
> another session, and in an earlier session a matter was referred to
> the Collegium Augurum.
>
> Attending in the Collegium Pontificum were
>
> Pontifices:
>
> C. Fabius Buteo Modianus, Censor
> T. Iulius Sabinus, Censor
> Q. Fabius Maximus, Consularius
> M. Moravius Piscinus, Consularius
> A. Gryllus Graecus, Praetorius
> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
> Q. Caecilius Metellus
>
> [Pontifex Fl. Galerius Aurelianus is on leave.]
>
> Virgo Maxima Vestalis M. Valeria Messallina, Tribuna Plebis
>
> Flamines
>
> C. Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, Consul et Censorius
> M. Hortensia Maior, Praetrix
> C. Petronius Dexter, Tribunus Plebis
>
> Attending the first session and not voting in the second was Flamen
> Furrinalis M. Titinius Silvanus.>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *****************
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus
>
> Consul Iterum
> Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
> Civis Romanus sum
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
> Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
> Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
> ************************************************
> Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
> Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75913 From: Belle Morte Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Salve et Salvete,

Indeed excellent news, a hearty congratulations goes out to both ladies for
their willingness and devotion to serve further for Nova Roma.


Vale et Valete,
Aeternia




>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75914 From: Maxima Valeria Messallina Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Thank you. Now, stop it, please; you're making me blush. LOL
Quite right, there is no Roma with out a Temple to Vesta and a full College of Vestals. That is my personal goal. I don't know when or where, but one fine day I am going to build a new Temple to Vesta, exactly like the original one in Rome once was. It will be on Nova Roma land and my Vestal Sisters and I will live in permanent community until we have each completed our 30 years of service (although I doubt I will leave even if I should live so long. I'll probably hang around just to be a pain in the royal tooter to the new Vestals. ROFL).
 
This is indeed a happy day!
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 


<<--- On Sun, 5/30/10, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

M. Hortensia quiritibus spd;

this is a wonderful day! Another Vestal in training. All of us in Nova Roma owe all honour to the Virgo Maxima M. Valeria Messallina and now her new priestess, future vestal: G. Maria Caeca!
There is no Rome without her Vestals.
And I know one day we will gather in Vesta's temple

My deep appreciation to V. Rutilia Enodia for her devotion to Juno Regina, who aids us in war. It was Juno dea who sided with the Romans finally against her city Carthage in the Punic war!

di nobis favent!
M. Hortensia Maior>>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75915 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: The Eleventh Consular edict CFBQ on REGISTRATION of participation at
Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

The Eleventh Consular edict CFBQ on Registration of participation at
"The First Consular Coventus in Rome"

I. Those who will participate in the "The First Consular Coventus in
Rome" shall send an e-mail to Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus,
Præfectus Italiæ.

II. There will be no fees, but everyone is expected to pay for living
and travelling. The Res Publica will pay for meeting localities and
might pay for one or two dinners and suppers, but there is a limited
budget for this event. Which means that every one needs to pay most
of their own costs.

III. In earlier edicts suggestions for accomodaions are listed and I
guess that Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, Præfectus
Italiæ.will be able toi advise in this area.

IV. If there are any other questions, send them to me ands my Cohors
will its best to handle them.

V. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given under my hand the 30th of May 2763 A.U.C. (AD 2010), in the year
of the Consulship of P. Memmius Albucius and the Second Consulship of
K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, 2763 AUC.

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75916 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: The Twelfth Consular edict CFBQ on Consular edict CFBQ on appointme
Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XII de nominationibus in Cohorte Consulari CFBQ

(The Twelfth Consular edict CFBQ on Consular edict CFBQ on
appointments to the Cohors and establishment of a Financial Office).

I. P. Annaeus Constantinus Placidus is hereby appointed Accensus ad
Officium Romanum CFBQ. He will perform duties in relation to the
International Nova Roman Conventus in Rome this year.

I. P. Annaeus Constantinus Placidus ex hoc Accensus ad Officium
Romanum CFBQ creatur qui Conventum Internationalem Novam Romanam hoc
anno habendum curabit.

II. A. Vitellius Celsus is hereby appointed Caput Officii Aerarii (Head
of the Financial Office) et Accensus CFBQ. He will direct the
financial duties in the Financial Office.

II. A. Vitellius Celsus ex hoc Caput Officii Aerarii et Accensus CFBQ
creatur qui officia pecuniaria curabit et reget in Officio Aerarii.

III. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

III. Hoc Edictum statim valet.

Given this 27th of May, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus,
2763 AUC.

Datum a.d. VI. Kalenadas Iunias P. Memmio Albucio et K. Fabio Buteone
Quintiliano iterum coss., MMDCCLXIII AUC



Given under my hand the 30th of May 2763 A.U.C. (AD 2010), in the year
of the Consulship of P. Memmius Albucius and the Second Consulship of
K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, 2763 AUC.

*****************



*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75917 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: CALL FOR SOME CANDIDATES FOR COMITIA POPULI TRIBUTA
Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XIII de candidati Comitia Populi Tributa

(The Thirteenth Consular edict CFBQ on candidates in Comitia Populi
Tributa .)


I hereby call for candidates to stand for election to some ordinary
magistracies of the Comitia Populi Tributa.

Anyone wishing to serve in any of these positions must have been a
citizen for at least six months by Kal. Jul.. MMDCCLXIII (July 1st,
2010) and be an assiduus (tax-paying) citizen.

I will convene the comitia for the elections at a later time in June,
but candidates are welcome to announce themselves and begin
campaigning if they wish.

Please observe that _all_ potential candidates must contact me with
their intention to stand for office directly by sending a message to:
christer dot edling at telia dot com
in order to be placed on the ballot. Please include the word
"candidate" in the subject of the message, and be sure to tell me your
full Nova Roman name and the office for which you will campaign.

Simply announcing your candidacy to one of the lists shall not be
accepted. You must write to me directly.

Candidacies will be accepted until 12 June 2010 (18.00 hrs CET Rome;
12.00 hrs EST Philadelphia).

As I need some advise about proper dates I will have to come back with
the exact dates for contio and election.

On behalf of the Res Publica Libera Senatus Populique Novae Romae I,
Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, Consul, hereby issue this call for
candidates for the following offices:


II QUAESTORES: Must be at least 21 years old as of Kal. Quintilis 2763
(July 1st, 2010). Must be assiduus.
II ROGATORES: Must be at least 21 years old as of Kal. Quintilis. 2763
(July 1st, 2010). Must be assiduus.


I CURULE AEDILE,: Must be at least 21 years old as of Kal. Quintilis
2763 (July 1st, 2010). Must be assiduus.


Given this 30th of May, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus,
2763 AUC.


*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75918 From: Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
Salvete Omnes;

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Belle Morte wrote:
> Salve et Salvete,
>
> Indeed excellent news, a hearty congratulations goes out to both ladies for
> their willingness and devotion to serve further for Nova Roma.
>
>
> Vale et Valete,
> Aeternia
>
>

I'd like to add my congratulations to both of these women who I know
will do well for the People, the res Publica and the Immortals...

======================
In amicitia et fide
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator
Civis - Poeta
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75919 From: C.Maria Caeca Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: call for input
C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.

First, think you, very kindly, for the congratulations and kind wishes. I
will do my utmost to deserve them, and to be worthy of this singular trust
and honor.

On another topic entirely, as you know, we are preparing a podcast. It
would seem I'm the local news "girl" despite the fact that I don't think I
get a wardrobe allowance (darn) or an extremely handsome and devastatingly
charming male co-reporter with whom to flirt (um I meant interact, of
course!). Still, I think everything will turn out very nicely. What I do
need, though, is for anyone with news about events, appointments and other
matters of interest in our provinces to contact me within the next couple of
days ...say by Friday. That way, I can feature you in my segment, and let
the whole world (well, Nova Roma) know what you have accomplished and are
planning. I know some things, of course ...but I want *more*! I've become
news greedy! so, let me know what's going on, because I want to satisfy all
those inquiring minds ...it's my job, after all!

Gratias tibi ago,

Valete bene,
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75920 From: Christer Edling Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: ADDITION TO The Eleventh Consular edict CFBQ on REGISTRATION of part
Salvete Quirites!

To register for the Conventus You should use this address: <ugo dot
coppola at tin dot it>

****************


Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

The Eleventh Consular edict CFBQ on Registration of participation at
"The First Consular Coventus in Rome"

I. Those who will participate in the "The First Consular Coventus in
Rome" shall send an e-mail to Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus,
Præfectus Italiæ.

II. There will be no fees, but everyone is expected to pay for living
and travelling. The Res Publica will pay for meeting localities and
might pay for one or two dinners and suppers, but there is a limited
budget for this event. Which means that every one needs to pay most
of their own costs.

III. In earlier edicts suggestions for accomodaions are listed and I
guess that Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, Præfectus
Italiæ.will be able toi advise in this area.

IV. If there are any other questions, send them to me ands my Cohors
will its best to handle them.

V. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given under my hand the 30th of May 2763 A.U.C. (AD 2010), in the year
of the Consulship of P. Memmius Albucius and the Second Consulship of
K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, 2763 AUC.



*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75921 From: Maxima Valeria Messallina Date: 2010-05-30
Subject: CALL FOR CANDIDATES FOR COMITIA PLEBIS TRIBUTA
Ex Officio Tribunae Plebis Maximae Valeriae Messallinae Quiritibus S.P.D.  
 
 
On behalf of the Res Publica Libera Senatus Populique Novae Romae, I, Maxima Valeria Messallina, Tribuna Plebis, hereby issue this call for candidates for the following office: 
 
 
I AEDILE PLEBIS - Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian order, assidui and at least 21 years of age as of Kal. Quintilis 2763 auc., (July 1, 2010). 
 

 

I will convene the Comitia Plebis Tributa for the purpose of this election at a later time in June, but candidates are welcome to announce themselves forthwith and begin campaigning if they wish. 
 
In order to be placed on the ballot, all potential candidates must contact me directly with their intention to stand for the above office by sending a message to:
maximavaleriamessallina@...
 
Simply announcing your candidacy to one of the lists shall not be accepted. You must write to me directly.
 
Please include the word "Candidate" in the subject line and please also state your full Nova Roman name in your email.  
 
Candidacies will be accepted until June 12, 2010 (18.00 hrs CET Rome; 12.00 hrs EST).
 
The exact dates for the contio and election are being arranged and will be announced as soon as possible.
 
Thank you.
 
 
Valete bene in pace Deorum,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
Tribuna Plebis




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75922 From: C.Maria Caeca Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: C. Petonius Dexter ...
I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
the celebration be wonderful!

Vale quam optime,
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75923 From: Cato Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: (no subject)
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice" from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what "spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75924 From: L. Livia Plauta Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salve Cato,
it seems your memory is short, because I definitely remember seeing many
posts from you in the past about your cultus privatus, in a quantity that
definitely reaches "spam" levels, and often with statements that offended
people and caused religious wars in the Main List.
This time you got a polite private warning, and you decided to respond with
a public insult to the praetrices.
Please do not be surprised if you will be put on moderation.

Vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)


Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in
memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice"
from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not
permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from
the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued
stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what
"spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to
add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75925 From: marcushoratius Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Pridie Kalendas Iunonias: Rosalia; Pudicitia; Ludi Saeculares
M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Quiritibus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Iubeo bono animo esse.

Hodie est die pristine Kalendas Iunonias; haec dies comitialis est: Rosalia.

Rosalia

As on 10 May a Rosalia celebration ended the month to honor the dead of the Roman legions. The standards were brought forth from the aedes at the center of the camp and placed around the altar. They were crowned with wreaths of roses and a supplication was performed before them to the Lares Legionis.

AUC 458 / 295 CE: Verginia and the Temples of Pudicitia

"Several portents occurred this year and, with the view of averting them, the senate passed a decree that special intercessions should be offered for two days. The wine and incense were provided at the public cost, and both men and women attended the religious functions in great numbers. This time of special observance was rendered memorable by a quarrel which broke out amongst the matrons in the chapel of the Patrician Pudicitia, which is in the Forum Boarium, against the round temple of Hercules. Verginia, the daughter of Aulus Verginius, a patrician, had married the plebeian consul, L. Volumnius, and the matrons excluded her from their sacred rites because she had married outside the patriciate. This led to a brief altercation, which, as the women became excited, soon blazed up into a storm of passion. Verginia protested with perfect truth that she entered the temple of Pudicitia as a patrician and a pure woman, the wife of one man to whom she had been betrothed as a virgin, and she had nothing to be ashamed of in her husband or in his honourable career and the offices which he had held. The effect of her high-spirited language was considerably enhanced by her subsequent action. In the Vicus Longus, where she lived, she shut off a portion of her house, sufficient to form a moderately sized chapel, and set up an altar there. She then called the plebeian matrons together and told them how unjustly she had been treated by the patrician ladies. 'I am dedicating,' she said, 'this altar to the Plebeian Pudicitia, and I earnestly exhort you as matrons to show the same spirit of emulation on the score of chastity that the men of this City display with regard to courage, so that this altar may, if possible, have the reputation of being honoured with a holier observance and by purer worshippers than that of the patricians.' The ritual and ceremonial practiced at this altar was almost identical with that at the older one; no matron was allowed to sacrifice there whose moral character was not well attested, and who had had more than one husband. Afterwards it was polluted by the presence of women of every kind, not matrons only, and finally passed into oblivion." ~ Titus Livius10.23


Origins of the Ludi Saeculares

"Some time afterwards, when a plague happened in the city, which was the year after the expulsion of the kings, Publuis Valerius Publicola sacrificed a black bull and a black heifer to Pluto and Proserpine, by which he freed the city from, the disease. He wrote on the altar this inscription ; "Publius Valerius Publicola dedicated fire to Pluto and Proserpine in the Campus Martius, and exhibited spectacles in honour of them, for the preservation of the Roman people."

"But afterwards, when they were oppressed with diseases and wars, which was in the year 352 after the building of the city, the senate endeavoured to deliver themselves from those calamities by means of the oracles of the Sibyls, and therefore commanded those whose office it was to consult those oracles. Having done so they told the senate that by sacrificing to Pluto and Proserpine an end would be put to all their miseries. They therefore chose a convenient place, which they consecrated to Pluto and Proserpine as they were commanded, when Marcus Potitus was in his fourth consulate. And when the ceremony was completed, being delivered from their grievances, they again laid aside the altar in some extremity of the Campus Martius. These rites were afterwards neglected for many years, until some misfortunes befel them, and then Octavianus Augustus renewed the games which had before been celebrated, when Lucius. Censorinus and Marcus Manlius Puelius were consuls. They were again used under the consulate of Lucius Censorinus and Caius Sabinus, when Ateius Capito had explained the laws concerning them, and the fifteen men who had the care of the books of the Sibyls had found out the time when the sacrifice ought to be performed and the games held. After Augustus was dead, these games were celebrated by Claudius, without any regard to the due time. After him Domitian, who paid no regard to what Claudius had done, computed the years from the time when Augustus kept that festival, and seemed to observe their original institution. And after them Severus in the hundred and tenth year restored the same game, with his two sons Antoninus and Geta, when Chilo and Libo were consuls. This is said to be the manner in which these games were observed. The beadles went round at the time, and invited all the people to a spectacle, such as they had never witnessed and never would again. The Quindecimviri, in the summer season, a little before the games began, sat in the Capitol, and in the Palatine, temple, upon a tribunal, from which they distributed to the people a kind of purifying preparations, called lustralia, which consisted of torches, brimstone and pitch, of which none but freemen are allowed to participate. And when the people assembled in the above mentioned places and in the temple of Diana, which is on mount Aventine, each person brought wheat, barley, and beans, and kept vigils to the fatal sisters. The time of the festival being arrived, which was celebrated three successive days and nights in the Campus Martins, the victims were consecrated near the bank of the Tiber at Tarentum. There they sacrificed to several deities; to Jupiter, Juno, Apollo, Latona, and to the Parcae, Lucinae, Ceres, Pluto, and Proserpine, which was performed in this order. The first night that the spectacles were exhibited, the emperor with the Quindecimviri sacrificed three lambs on as many altars purposely placed on the side of the river, where having sprinkled the altars with blood he offered up the victims whole. Then, having prepared a scene without a theatre, they placed a great number of lights, and made a large fire, by which they sang a new hymn, to render the games more solemn. They who performed these ceremonies were rewarded for their labour with the first fruits of their wheat, barley, and beans. For these were as I stated distributed among the people. The following day they went up to the Capitol, where the usual sacrifices were offered, and going from thence to the appointed place, celebrated games in honour of Apollo and Diana. On the next day, the principal ladies entered the Capitol at the hour appointed by the oracle, where they conducted themselves with due reverence : and at the third hour, in the temple of Apollo near the palace, twenty-seven children of each sex, whose parents were all living, sang hymns, and spoke in Greek and Latin ; by which the Roman empire was preserved. Besides these, however, there were other rites observed by the divine command, which as long as they were kept up preserved the Roman empire. And in confirmation of what I have stated, I will add the oracle of the Sibyl, which has been mentioned by others before my time;

But when a hundred years and ten are past
Which is the longest time man's age doth last,
Romans ! be sure (it is fatal to mistake
In any point) due offerings to make
To heaven, and see you bring the sacrifice
Into that field which on the Tiber lies:
And do it, in that season, when the night
Deprives men least of the diurnal light.
After sun set; Then to the Parcae pay
Your homage; and upon their altars lay
Young sheep and goats : next the Lucinae please
With decent rites, who childing women ease,
Those finished offer a black hog and sow
To Tellus, for the product of the plow,
But to Jove's altar bring the bulls milk-while
For victims, in the day-time, not by night:
(For heavenly deities accept of none
But what are offer'd in the day alone.)
And next to Juno sacrifice a cow
Spotless all o'er, and pure as fulling snow,
Then let Apollo, whom they call the sun,
And Phoebus, have his equal honours done.
Whilst in the temple Latin girls and boys
In sacred hymns make a triumphant noise.
But let them be apart, the girls to stand
And sing on this, the boys on t'other hand;
Besides this caution I must farther give
That all the parents of them be alive.
As for the married women, let them pray
To Juno on their knees, that each one may
Have their desire, both men and women too,
But chiefly women. Then, let all of you
Bring from your houses what is fit to bring,
(As the first-fruits of every useful thing)
To the immortal gods an offering.
And let all that upon your altars lie,
Whence you may men and women both supply.
But to attend the gods be sure there be
Both night and day a numerous company
Of votaries both serious and free.
These laws observ'd not Latium alone
But Italy's extent your sway shall own.

"Experience assures us, that while these ceremonies were duly performed, according to the direction of the oracles, the empire was secure, and likely to retain its sovereignty over almost all the known world ; and on the other hand, when they were neglected, about the time when Dioclesian laid down the imperial dignity, it fell to decay, and degenerated insensibly into barbarism. That I state nothing but truth I will prove from chronology. From the consulate of Chilo and Libo, in which Severus celebrated the secular games, or rites, to the ninth consulate of Dioclesian, and eighth of Maximianus, was a hundred and one years. Then Dioclesian from an emperor became a private individual, and Maximianus followed his example. But when Constantine and Licinius were in their third consulship, the 110 years were completed, and the festival ought to have been kept according to custom; but it was neglected, and affairs consequently declined to their present unfortunate condition." ~ Zosimus, The New History Book 2


Today's thought, to close out the month of May, is from Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 12.5:

"How can it be that the Gods after having arranged all things well and benevolently for mankind, have overlooked this alone, that some men and very good men, and men who, as we may say, have had most communion with the divinity, and through pious acts and religious observances have been most intimate with the divinity, when they have once died should never exist again, but should be completely extinguished?

"But if this is so, be assured that if it ought to have been otherwise, the Gods would have done it. For if it were just, it would also be possible; and if it were according to nature, nature would have had it so. But because it is not so, if in fact it is not so, be thou convinced that it ought not to have been so: for thou seest even of thyself that in this inquiry thou art disputing with the deity; and we should not thus dispute with the Gods, unless They were most excellent and most just; but if this is so, They would not have allowed anything in the ordering of the universe to be neglected unjustly and irrationally."
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75926 From: Robert Levee Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salve Livia,
 
Well all I can say to that is that you can go ahead and put me on moderation as well.I as a Diabled American Veteran and defender of my country during the Viet  

--- On Mon, 5/31/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> wrote:


From: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 6:06 AM


 



Salve Cato,
it seems your memory is short, because I definitely remember seeing many
posts from you in the past about your cultus privatus, in a quantity that
definitely reaches "spam" levels, and often with statements that offended
people and caused religious wars in the Main List.
This time you got a polite private warning, and you decided to respond with
a public insult to the praetrices.
Please do not be surprised if you will be put on moderation.

Vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in
memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice"
from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not
permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from
the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued
stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what
"spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to
add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato











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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75927 From: Robert Levee Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salve Livia,
 
As I was saying, until in my passion I mistakenly hit the wrong key and not completing my peace.I ,as a Disabled American Veteran of the Viet Nam War, find your attitude toward the message Cato sent in honor of my fallen brothers, as highly offensive to me.As a matter of fact ,I consider it highly contemptable, that on the occasion of our Memorial Day, that any statement that would be honoring those Veterans, should be handled in such a manner.I stand by you Cato on this one.I also wish to thank you, for having been so thoughtful of their memory.Only those who have never been warriors themselves, or have personaly never experienced the pain of loss for a fallen brother, could be so terribly biased.So as I said please put me on moderation as well.
 
Vale,
Appius Galertius Aurelianus
 


--- On Mon, 5/31/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> wrote:


From: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 6:06 AM


 



Salve Cato,
it seems your memory is short, because I definitely remember seeing many
posts from you in the past about your cultus privatus, in a quantity that
definitely reaches "spam" levels, and often with statements that offended
people and caused religious wars in the Main List.
This time you got a polite private warning, and you decided to respond with
a public insult to the praetrices.
Please do not be surprised if you will be put on moderation.

Vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in
memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice"
from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not
permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from
the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued
stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what
"spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to
add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato











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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75928 From: marcushoratius Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: Cato
M. Moravius salutem

Memorial Day is a time to reflect and to recall those who have given their lives in the service of their country. As a veteran I have plenty of comrads to remember. I regard this as a very solemn holiday.

I'll admit, therefore, that like others I took some offense to your post, Cato, in using this solemn occasion to proselytize once again. It is something you have done several times over the past few years and you have been warned about this sort of behavior by other praetores before this year. It is offensive to some people here. You know it is offensive and your repeated conduct in this manner can only be seen as a deliberate attempt to disrupt the decorum of the list.

The passage you posted did not relate in any way to Memorial Day or to fallen soldiers. Instead this particular passage that you selected, for unknown reasons, states that, "The LORD apportioned to them great glory . . . those who ruled in their kingdoms, and were men renowned for their power, . . . rich men furnished with resources." How does that express anything about common men and women who have by their uncommon choice become heroes by giving up their lives for their fellow countrymen and in defense of people from other countries as well? Isn't what made them heroes and heroines, their selfless act, noble and heroic precisely because they acted out of choice and without any notion of predestination? But your post is not about fallen soldiers, or about self sacrifice, but only a bald-faced attempt to promote your parochial views on others at an inappropriate time.

Once more, Cato, you have missed the point entirely as to the nature of a solemn holiday. And once again you have offended the decorum of this list by trying to instigate conflict over your narrow views. And it does not go unnoticed that you did this after being warned and admonished before.



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato omnibus in foro SPD
>
> In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice" from the praetors:
>
> "Ex Officio Pratricum;
> this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not permitted on the Main List.
> Equestria Iunia Laeca
> M. Hortensia Maior"
>
> I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what "spam" constitutes in re the internet.
>
> You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75929 From: Cato Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: Cato
Cato Moravio sal.

And, of course, you neglect the entire second section of the quote - the whole point of the passage, actually.

And because you - and Maior and Livia - seem to have difficulty with English, here is the definition of "proselytize":

"1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith; 2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause."

I would like you to explain clearly and concisely, without grandstanding or bluster, *exactly* how that particular passage can be seen as "proselytizing" in any sense of the word.

Vale,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75930 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
Salve Caeca,

I am sorry to put back your joy, but my birthday will be tomorrow on the day called in Latin, Kalendae Juniae.

Kalendis Iuniis, natalis meus celebrandus est.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Pridie Kalendas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:
>
> I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
> the celebration be wonderful!
>
> Vale quam optime,
> C. Maria Caeca
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75931 From: C.Maria Caeca Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: C. Petronius Dexter ...
C. Maria Caeca C. Petronio Dextero S. P. D.

oops, my apologies! I misread my event calendar on Facebook, apparently! Well, best of wishes for your birth day when it comes!

Vale bene,
CMC

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75932 From: M•IVL•SEVERVS Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: Conclusion of the Sessions of the Collegium Pontificum
M. Iulius Severus quiritibus S.P.D.,

Let me quote M. Hortensia Maior:
All of us in Nova Roma owe all honour to our Virgo Maxima, M. Valeria Messallina.
She is an example. She is a real Roman woman.
My respectful greetings to her and priestess G. Maria Caeca, future Vestal.

Valete,
 
M•IVL•SEVERVS

SENATOR
PRO•CONSVL•PROVINCIÆ•MEXICI




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75933 From: L. Livia Plauta Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salve Aureliane,
you must have misunderstood me: I never said anything against anyone
honoring Memorial Day, even if it's off-topic, and a holiday that only
interests one country (it would be interesting if everybody started to post
about their national holidays).

What I objected to was Cato grabbing the occasion to make some propaganda
for his private cult.

If you read the messages a while back you will notice that other people
posted messages about Memorial Day, and neither I, nor anyone else, had any
objections.

Optime vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Levee" <galerius_of_rome@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)


Salve Livia,

As I was saying, until in my passion I mistakenly hit the wrong key and not
completing my peace.I ,as a Disabled American Veteran of the Viet Nam War,
find your attitude toward the message Cato sent in honor of my fallen
brothers, as highly offensive to me.As a matter of fact ,I consider it
highly contemptable, that on the occasion of our Memorial Day, that any
statement that would be honoring those Veterans, should be handled in such a
manner.I stand by you Cato on this one.I also wish to thank you, for having
been so thoughtful of their memory.Only those who have never been warriors
themselves, or have personaly never experienced the pain of loss for a
fallen brother, could be so terribly biased.So as I said please put me on
moderation as well.

Vale,
Appius Galertius Aurelianus



--- On Mon, 5/31/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> wrote:


From: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 6:06 AM






Salve Cato,
it seems your memory is short, because I definitely remember seeing many
posts from you in the past about your cultus privatus, in a quantity that
definitely reaches "spam" levels, and often with statements that offended
people and caused religious wars in the Main List.
This time you got a polite private warning, and you decided to respond with
a public insult to the praetrices.
Please do not be surprised if you will be put on moderation.

Vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in
memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice"
from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not
permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from
the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued
stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what
"spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to
add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato











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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75934 From: rory12001 Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salve Livia amica;
you know I don't post about national holidays from my provincia, but honouring the manes of the war dead is very Roman and in line with our common culture. We may be from Gallia, Italia, Pannonia, the Americas but the gods and Rome unite us.
optime vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Aureliane,
> you must have misunderstood me: I never said anything against anyone
> honoring Memorial Day, even if it's off-topic, and a holiday that only
> interests one country (it would be interesting if everybody started to post
> about their national holidays).
>
> What I objected to was Cato grabbing the occasion to make some propaganda
> for his private cult.
>
> If you read the messages a while back you will notice that other people
> posted messages about Memorial Day, and neither I, nor anyone else, had any
> objections.
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Levee" <galerius_of_rome@>
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
>
>
> Salve Livia,
>
> As I was saying, until in my passion I mistakenly hit the wrong key and not
> completing my peace.I ,as a Disabled American Veteran of the Viet Nam War,
> find your attitude toward the message Cato sent in honor of my fallen
> brothers, as highly offensive to me.As a matter of fact ,I consider it
> highly contemptable, that on the occasion of our Memorial Day, that any
> statement that would be honoring those Veterans, should be handled in such a
> manner.I stand by you Cato on this one.I also wish to thank you, for having
> been so thoughtful of their memory.Only those who have never been warriors
> themselves, or have personaly never experienced the pain of loss for a
> fallen brother, could be so terribly biased.So as I said please put me on
> moderation as well.
>
> Vale,
> Appius Galertius Aurelianus
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/31/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 6:06 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salve Cato,
> it seems your memory is short, because I definitely remember seeing many
> posts from you in the past about your cultus privatus, in a quantity that
> definitely reaches "spam" levels, and often with statements that offended
> people and caused religious wars in the Main List.
> This time you got a polite private warning, and you decided to respond with
> a public insult to the praetrices.
> Please do not be surprised if you will be put on moderation.
>
> Vale,
> Livia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:52 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
>
> Cato omnibus in foro SPD
>
> In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in
> memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice"
> from the praetors:
>
> "Ex Officio Pratricum;
> this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not
> permitted on the Main List.
> Equestria Iunia Laeca
> M. Hortensia Maior"
>
> I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from
> the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued
> stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what
> "spam" constitutes in re the internet.
>
> You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to
> add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75935 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Kalends, 6/1/2010, 12:00 am
Reminder from:   Nova-Roma Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Kalends
 
Date:   Tuesday June 1, 2010
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every month.
Notes:   Every Kalends is sacred to Juno
"Be well, Queen Juno, look down and preserve us. Accept this offering
of incense and look kindly and favorably upon me and the Senate and
people of Nova Roma."
(Incense is placed in focus)

"Queen Juno, in addition to my virtuous offering of incense, be
honored by this offering of wine that I pour in libation. May you look
kindly and favorably upon the Senate and people of Nova Roma."
(Libation is poured for the Goddess)
 
Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 75936 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2010-05-31
Subject: Free Speech
Salvete Praetors,



Please be mindful that all speech is protected under our constitution unless it is a clear and present danger to the

survival of the republic. A quote from a religious text of one of our citizens does not rise to that level.





Ti. Galerius Paulinus



To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: catoinnyc@...
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:52:26 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)





Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice" from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what "spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato






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