Hello all,
 
I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
 
Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)

--- On Mon, 5/31/10, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:


From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Free Speech
To: "Nova-Roma" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:54 PM



Salvete Praetors,



Please be mindful that all speech is protected under our constitution unless it is a clear and present danger to the

survival of the republic. A quote from a religious text of one of our citizens does not rise to that level.





Ti. Galerius Paulinus



To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: catoinnyc@...
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:52:26 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)

 



Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice" from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what "spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato




                         

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M. Moravius Piscinus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Di vos semper servent.

Hodie est Kalendae Fabariae; haec dies nefastus est: DIE QUINTI TE KALO, IUNO COVELLA : Iunoni Monetae in arce; Fabarici circenses missus.

Fabariae

The name for today's date, the Kalendae Fabariae, comes not from a festival, but instead from an ancient tradition. On this day one is to eat a dish prepared from bean-meal and bacon fat (Macrobius, Saturnalia 1.12.22 and 31). This meal was dedicated to the Goddess Carna and was intended to preserve one's good health (Pliny H. N. 18.117). As it happens, this was the time of year when beans were harvested in Central Italy (Columella, 11.2.20).

"Prayers are offered to this Goddess, for the good preservation of liver, heart, and the other internal organs of our bodies. Her sacrifices are bean-meal and lard, because this is the best food for the nourishment of the body." ~ Macrobius, Saturnalia 1.12.32


AUC 267 / 486 ACE: Triumph of Sp. Cassius for his victory over the Volsci and Hernici.

AUC 396 / 357 ACE: Triumph of C. Marcius Rutilius for his victory over the Privernates.


Today celebrates the dedication of five temples at Rome:

AUC 358 / 395 ACE: Temple of Juno Regina, brought from Veii, dedicated on the Aventine Hill.


AUC 365 / 388 ACE: Temple of Mars dedicated in the Campus Martius.

"Father Mars, You who were not at all deaf to my vows, these men, survivors of the battle, dedicate to You the choicest armour of our victory trophies." ~ Silius Italicus Punica 10.553-54

"This same day is a festival of Mars, whose temple is seen from beyond the Portus Capena." ~Ovidius Naso, Fasti 6.191


AUC 409 / 344 ACE: Temple of Juno Moneta dedicated on the Arx.

"The Dictator (L. Furius Camillus) thought it his duty to secure the help of the Gods, and during the actual fighting he vowed a temple to Juno Moneta. On his victorious return to Rome, he resigned his Dictatorship to discharge his vow. The senate ordered two commissioners to be appointed to carry out the construction of that temple in a style commensurate with the greatness of the Roman people, and a site was marked out in the Citadel where the house of M. Manlius Capitolinus had stood." ~ Titus Livius 7.28


AUC 494 / 259 ACE: Temple of the Tempestes dedicated near the porta Capena.

"You too, Tempests, were considered worthy of a shrine, after our fleet was almost sunk in Corsican waters." ~ Ovidius Naso, Fasti 6.193

"Thanks be to Neptunus and the Tempestates, for returning me safe home again, my venture a success!" ~ Plautus, Stichus 402


AUC 733 / 20 ACE: Temple of Mars Ultor dedicated in the Forum Augusti.

"If, Father, my war is authorized by Vesta's priestess, and whenever I prepare to take divine vengeance, Mars, be by my side and satiate cold steel with guilt's blood, and lend Your favour to the better side. If I am victorious for You I'll build a shrine and call You Ultor, Mars the Avenger." ~ Ovid Fasti 5.573-77


AUC 736 / 17 ACE: Ludi Saeculares led by Augustus and Agrippa

Acta Sacrorum Saecularium

A proclamation was sent out asking the populace of Rome to participate. "All Free Men, you are bid to pray and fast. On the Capitolium, before the Temple of Jupiter, and on the Aventine before the temple of Diana (join with) the crowded populace present and for the Gods gather sweet-smelling herbs to offer."

Those who were 25 or older were to convene on the Capitolium. From among those who were younger, two choruses were selected of male and female voices to sing a hymn specially composed for the occasion by Horace. As some rites of the Ludi Saeculares were reserved for women to conduct, a second decree was issued on the Kalendae Fabariae:

"And the edict was issued: The quindecimviri sacris faciundis decree: Since, insofar as it accords with proper custom, and in like manner has been observed in numerous precedents, whenever there has been a rightful cause for public celebration, it has been decided that the mourning of women should be suspended; and since it seems that it is appropriate both to the honor of the gods and to the remembrance of their worship that that should apply to the time of solemn rites and games and that it should be scrupulously observed –therefore we have decided that it is incumbent on us to issue to women a decree by edict, that they should suspend mourning." ~ CIL 6.32323 Lines 110b-14


The Ludi Saeculares began soon after Midnight with a nighttime sacrifice to the Moirai in the Campus Martius

"On the following night, on the Campus Martius, next to the Tiber, [the emperor Caesar Augustus sacrificed] according to the Greek rite [nine female lambs to the divine Moirai (Fates) as whole burnt offering; and by the same rite he sacrificed nine female goats as a whole burnt offerings and spoke the following prayer: "Moirai, as it is prescribed for you in the Sibylline books - and for this reason may good fortune attend the Roman people, the Quirites – let sacrifice be made to you with nine female lambs and nine female goats burnt whole for you. I beg you and pray that you may increase the power and majesty of the Roman people, the Quirites, in war and peace; and that the Latins may always be obedient; and that you may grant eternal safety, victory and health to the Roman people, the Quirites; and that you may protect the Roman people, the Quirites, and the legions of the Roman people, the Quirites; and that you may keep safe and make greater the state of the Roman people, the Quirites, and that you may be favorable and propitious to the Roman people], the Quirites, to the collegium of the quindecimviri, to me, to my house, to my household; and that you may accept this sacrifice of nine female lambs and nine female goats, to be burnt whole for you in sacrifice. For these reasons be honoured with the sacrifice of this female lamb, become favourable and propitious to the Roman people, the Quirites, to the collegium of the quindecimviri, to myself, to my house, to my household.

"When the sacrifice was completed, games were celebrated by night on a stage, without the additional construction of a theatre and without the erection of seating. One hundred and ten matrons, who had been designated by decree of the quindecimviri, held sellisternia with two seats set out for Juno and Diana.

"Then the games were celebrated with plays in Latin on a wooden theatre which had been erected on the Campus Martius next to the Tiber, and in the same manner women who were mistresses of households held sellisternia, and the games which had begun to take place at night were not interrupted." ~ CIL 6.32323 Lines 90-110

"Juno Regina, we, one hundred and ten the mothers of the families of the people of Rome, the Quirites, pray You allow what is now beneficial to the people of Rome, the Quirites, may then be made better, and we brides implore You to aid and increase the sovereign power and majesty of the people of Rome, the Quirites, in war and peace, and always to watch over the fame of the Latins. And may You favor the people of Rome, the Quirites, and the legions of the people of Rome, the Quirites, and preserve the republic of the people of Rome, the Quirites, and may You willingly favor and prosper us, our homes, and our families. This is what the one hundred and ten mothers of the families of the people of Rome, the Quirites, we brides of our families, pray, entreat, and implore You to grant." ~ CIL 6.32329. 10 sqq. Acta Sacrorum Saecularium addition

"On the Kalends of June, on the Capitoline Hill, the emperor Caesar Augustus sacrificed a bull to Jupiter Optimus Maximus burnt whole for him, and in the same place Marcus Agrippa sacrificed a second. They spoke a prayer, as follows: "Jupiter Optimus Maximus, as it is prescribed for you in those books –and for this [reason] may good fortune attend the Roman people, the Quirites – let sacrifice be made to you with this fine bull. I beg you and pray." The rest as above. At the sacred vessel were Caesar, Agrippa, Scaevola, Sentius, Lollius, Asinius Gallus, and Rabilis (all the members of the quindecimviri).

"Then the games were celebrated with plays in Latin on a wooden theatre which had been erected on the Campus Martius next to the Tiber, and in the same manner women who were mistresses of households held sellisternia, and the games which had begun to take place at night were not interrupted.

"Then by night, next to the Tiber, the emperor Caesar Augustus made sacrifice to the divine Ilythiae with nine cakes, nine popana, nine phthoes; he spoke the following prayer: "Ilythia, as it is prescribed for you in those books –and for this reason [may every good fortune attend] the Roman people, the Quirites – let sacrifice be made to you with nine popana, nine cakes, nine phthoes. I beg and pray. The rest as above." ~ CIL 6.32323 Lines 103-110; 115-118

"Ilythia. You who are compassionate towards women, who suffer with great labor pains, their bodies strained in slow birth of the hidden child, gently attend her, Ilythia, and favor my prayers." ~ Ovidius Naso, Amores II.14.19-24


AUC 790 / 37 CE: Emperor Caligula gives the people a congiarium

AUC 820 / 67 CE: Flavius Vespasianus captures Jotapata

AUC 946 / 193 CE: Emperor Didius Julianus deposed; Septimius Severus recognized as Emperor at Rome


Our thought for today is from Democritus, the Golden Sayings 64:

"The friendship of one wise man is better than that of every fool."

M. Moravius Piscinus Pontifex Maximus Lictoribus omnibus s. p. d.

All Lictores of Nova Roma are to assemble for the Comitia Curiata beginning at 10.00 hours CET Roma (04.00 hrs EST) on III Non. Iun (3 June) in order that they may witness the adlection of Gaia Maria Caeca as sacerdos Vestae.

QUOD BONUM FAUSTVM FELIX FORTUNATUMQVE SIT POPULO NOVO ROMANO QUIRITIBUS

Lentulus amico suo carissimo Dextro s. p. d.
 
Feliciter!
 
Hisce Kalendis Iuniis diem natalem faustissimum et felicissimum ac fortunatissimum flamini, tibi, pontifex opto!
 
Cn. Lentulus
 

--- Lun 31/5/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...> ha scritto:


Da: petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...>
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 31 maggio 2010, 18:27


 



Salve Caeca,

I am sorry to put back your joy, but my birthday will be tomorrow on the day called in Latin, Kalendae Juniae.

Kalendis Iuniis, natalis meus celebrandus est.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Pridie Kalendas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:
>
> I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
> the celebration be wonderful!
>
> Vale quam optime,
> C. Maria Caeca
>











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Cn. Lentulus pontifex C. Catoni, M. Piscino pontifici maximo Hortensiae Maiori praetrici et flaminicae, Liviae amicae et omnibus SPD
 
 
I have nothing to add to this tiresome discussion, except that in this point I agree that what Cato does it may be annoying to some, even disturbing, but it is not "proselytizing". I can understand and I can feel the suspicion, if I want, what M. Piscinus wrote about Cato, that he seems to bring up Christiniaty just for the sake of testing the people, but I can't definitely decide if this is true or not. In any case, no religion, no cult or absolutely no mention of the Christian of non-Christian religions should disturb anyone unless it is intentended to be offensive.
 
However, per the lex Octavia de sermone, the praetors govern the list, and they - and they ALONE - can decide what constitutes "order" in this list. This year's praetors consider that other religions than the state cult of NR are off topic, and no one shall be surprised if they act according to their principles.
 
Just only one more thing, and this is only personal, my consideration: all gods of all nations, even the Christian one, too, shall be respected by a Roman, and treated carefully, because if any god becomes offended, they may visit us with ire. Be pious, Romans, towards all forms of divinity!
 
VALETE IN PACE DEORUM!
 
Cn. Lentulus
PONTIFEX

--- Lun 31/5/10, Cato <catoinnyc@...> ha scritto:


Da: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cato
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 31 maggio 2010, 17:54


 



Cato Moravio sal.

And, of course, you neglect the entire second section of the quote - the whole point of the passage, actually.

And because you - and Maior and Livia - seem to have difficulty with English, here is the definition of "proselytize":

"1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith; 2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause."

I would like you to explain clearly and concisely, without grandstanding or bluster, *exactly* how that particular passage can be seen as "proselytizing" in any sense of the word.

Vale,

Cato











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Salvete omnes et Praetors,

My ex-colleague is absolutely right. The Praetors duty to oversee the mail list does not override the guarantees of the Constitution.

This has been pointed out previously during their term of office.

Valete,

C. Popillius Laenas

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salvete Praetors,
>
>
>
> Please be mindful that all speech is protected under our constitution unless it is a clear and present danger to the
>
> survival of the republic. A quote from a religious text of one of our citizens does not rise to that level.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ti. Galerius Paulinus
>
>
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: catoinnyc@...
> Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:52:26 +0000
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
>
>
>
>
>
> Cato omnibus in foro SPD
>
> In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice" from the praetors:
>
> "Ex Officio Pratricum;
> this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not permitted on the Main List.
> Equestria Iunia Laeca
> M. Hortensia Maior"
>
> I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what "spam" constitutes in re the internet.
>
> You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

C. Petronius Cn. Lentulo suo s.p.d.,

Maximas, carissime Lentule, gratias tibi ago.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Kalendis Iuniis P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:
>
> Lentulus amico suo carissimo Dextro s. p. d.
>  
> Feliciter!
>  
> Hisce Kalendis Iuniis diem natalem faustissimum et felicissimum ac fortunatissimum flamini, tibi, pontifex opto!
>  
> Cn. Lentulus
>  
>
> --- Lun 31/5/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...> ha scritto:
>
>
> Da: petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...>
> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
> A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Lunedì 31 maggio 2010, 18:27
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Salve Caeca,
>
> I am sorry to put back your joy, but my birthday will be tomorrow on the day called in Latin, Kalendae Juniae.
>
> Kalendis Iuniis, natalis meus celebrandus est.
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Pridie Kalendas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@> wrote:
> >
> > I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
> > the celebration be wonderful!
> >
> > Vale quam optime,
> > C. Maria Caeca
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Cato omnibus in foro SPD

I have been placed - in violation of the Constitution of the Respublica - on
moderation. I received this email:

"Ex Officio Praetricum;
G. Equitius Cato, as per II.B.4 of the Constitution, as of 23 hr. Rome time
will be moderated for 24 hours.

you previously had been warned not to post bare religious texts on the Main
List. This is considered spam and the praetrices have received complaints of
proselytizing from the quirites."

The Constitution says that, as a citizen, I have:

"The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right to
reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such communications,
regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State, except where
they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic." - Const. N.R.
II.B.4

The posting of the text that I did is *not* an "imminent and clear danger" to
the Respublica; in fact, putting me on moderation for doing so violates the lex
Salicia poenalis directly:

"...who in any other way infringes the freedom of another person to hold
religious beliefs or to engage in religious teaching, practice, worship or
observance..." - lex Sal. poen. 19

Why do we accept this blatant violation of our law - by the same praetpor who
has shown hher contempt repeatedly both for my rights and my private cult?

Valete,

Cato

>Once more, Cato, you have missed the point entirely as to the nature of a
>solemn holiday. And once again you have >offended the decorum of this list
>by trying to instigate conflict over your narrow views. And it does not go
>unnoticed that >you did this after being warned and admonished before.

That's a bit over the top if you ask me....

Here here Appius Galertius Aurelianus!
And thank you for serving our country! There are many of us who think on the
hell that the military goes through when fighting in a war, while the rest
of us sit home safely watching the 'edited' version on television...

Vale,
Diana

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Levee" <galerius_of_rome@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)


Salve Livia,

As I was saying, until in my passion I mistakenly hit the wrong key and not
completing my peace.I ,as a Disabled American Veteran of the Viet Nam War,
find your attitude toward the message Cato sent in honor of my fallen
brothers, as highly offensive to me.As a matter of fact ,I consider it
highly contemptable, that on the occasion of our Memorial Day, that any
statement that would be honoring those Veterans, should be handled in such a
manner.I stand by you Cato on this one.I also wish to thank you, for having
been so thoughtful of their memory.Only those who have never been warriors
themselves, or have personaly never experienced the pain of loss for a
fallen brother, could be so terribly biased.So as I said please put me on
moderation as well.

Vale,
Appius Galertius Aurelianus



--- On Mon, 5/31/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> wrote:


From: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 6:06 AM






Salve Cato,
it seems your memory is short, because I definitely remember seeing many
posts from you in the past about your cultus privatus, in a quantity that
definitely reaches "spam" levels, and often with statements that offended
people and caused religious wars in the Main List.
This time you got a polite private warning, and you decided to respond with
a public insult to the praetrices.
Please do not be surprised if you will be put on moderation.

Vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

In response to my quote from Ecclesiasticus regarding holding people in
memoriam - on the Memorial Day weekend - I received the following "notice"
from the praetors:

"Ex Officio Pratricum;
this a a private warning to remind you that posting religious spam is not
permitted on the Main List.
Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior"

I find it incredibly offensive that they would label a single quotation from
the scriptures sacred to my cultus privatus as "spam" - showing a continued
stream of harassment against it, let alone an obvious ignorance of what
"spam" constitutes in re the internet.

You, Maior, are a shame to the office of praetor. Just one more thing to
add to the list of abuses for which you will answer when you leave office.

Valete,

Cato











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M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
et ego dico: feliciter!

>
> Maximas, carissime Lentule, gratias tibi ago.
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Kalendis Iuniis P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@> wrote:
> >
> > Lentulus amico suo carissimo Dextro s. p. d.
> >  
> > Feliciter!
> >  
> > Hisce Kalendis Iuniis diem natalem faustissimum et felicissimum ac fortunatissimum flamini, tibi, pontifex opto!
> >  
> > Cn. Lentulus
> >  
> >
> > --- Lun 31/5/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@> ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > Da: petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@>
> > Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
> > A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Data: Lunedì 31 maggio 2010, 18:27
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Salve Caeca,
> >
> > I am sorry to put back your joy, but my birthday will be tomorrow on the day called in Latin, Kalendae Juniae.
> >
> > Kalendis Iuniis, natalis meus celebrandus est.
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> > C. Petronius Dexter
> > Arcoiali scribebat
> > Pridie Kalendas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
> > > the celebration be wonderful!
> > >
> > > Vale quam optime,
> > > C. Maria Caeca
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Ave Carissime Amice

Fortuna dies natalis! Sint tibi omnia felicia et fausta!

Vale,

Iulia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
> et ego dico: feliciter!
>
> >
> > Maximas, carissime Lentule, gratias tibi ago.
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> > C. Petronius Dexter
> > Arcoiali scribebat
> > Kalendis Iuniis P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lentulus amico suo carissimo Dextro s. p. d.
> > >  
> > > Feliciter!
> > >  
> > > Hisce Kalendis Iuniis diem natalem faustissimum et felicissimum ac fortunatissimum flamini, tibi, pontifex opto!
> > >  
> > > Cn. Lentulus
> > >  
> > >
> > > --- Lun 31/5/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@> ha scritto:
> > >
> > >
> > > Da: petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@>
> > > Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
> > > A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Data: Lunedì 31 maggio 2010, 18:27
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve Caeca,
> > >
> > > I am sorry to put back your joy, but my birthday will be tomorrow on the day called in Latin, Kalendae Juniae.
> > >
> > > Kalendis Iuniis, natalis meus celebrandus est.
> > >
> > > Vale.
> > >
> > > C. Petronius Dexter
> > > Arcoiali scribebat
> > > Pridie Kalendas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
> > > > the celebration be wonderful!
> > > >
> > > > Vale quam optime,
> > > > C. Maria Caeca
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

>
>
> Scholastica amico suo Dextro S.P.D.
>
> Felicissimé! Etsi paulo serius, tibi faustissimum felicissimum
> fortunatissimum diem natalem exopto!
>
> Ut semper, Lentulus noster omnia optimé dixit...dum probationes finales
> corrigo! Si quis auxilium ferat, libenter accipiam!
>
> Vale quam optimé!
>
>
>
> Lentulus amico suo carissimo Dextro s. p. d.
>  
> Feliciter!
>  
> Hisce Kalendis Iuniis diem natalem faustissimum et felicissimum ac
> fortunatissimum flamini, tibi, pontifex opto!
>  
> Cn. Lentulus
>  
>
> --- Lun 31/5/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...
> <mailto:jfarnoud94%40yahoo.fr> > ha scritto:
>
> Da: petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@... <mailto:jfarnoud94%40yahoo.fr> >
> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: C. Petonius Dexter ...
> A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> Data: Lunedì 31 maggio 2010, 18:27
>
>  
>
> Salve Caeca,
>
> I am sorry to put back your joy, but my birthday will be tomorrow on the day
> called in Latin, Kalendae Juniae.
>
> Kalendis Iuniis, natalis meus celebrandus est.
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Pridie Kalendas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > I is my understanding that today is your birthday! Happy Birthday, and may
>> > the celebration be wonderful!
>> >
>> > Vale quam optime,
>> > C. Maria Caeca
>> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

M. Moravius Piscinus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Di vos servent cum vester.

Hodie est ante diem IV Nonas Iuninias; haec dies fastus aterque est: Ludi Saecilares

AUC 736 / 17 BCE: The Ludi Saeculares continue into the second day.

"Four days before the Nones of June (2 June), on the Capitoline Hill, the emperor Caesar Augustus sacrificed a cow to Juno Regina burnt whole for her, and in the same place Marcus Agrippa sacrificed a second, and spoke a prayer as follows: 'Juno Regina, as it is prescribed for you in those books – and for this reason may every good fortune attend the Roman people, the Quirites – let sacrifice be made to you with a fine cow. I beg and pray:[that you may increase the power and majesty of the Roman people, the Quirites, in war and peace; and that the Latins may always be obedient; and that you may grant eternal safety, victory and health to the Roman people, the Quirites; and that you may protect the Roman people, the Quirites, and the legions of the Roman people, the Quirites; and that you may keep safe and make greater the state of the Roman people, the Quirites, and that you may be favorable and propitious to the Roman people], the Quirites, to the collegium of the quindecimviri, to me, to my house, to my household; and that you may accept this sacrifice of nine female lambs and nine female goats, to be burnt whole for you in sacrifice. For these reasons be honoured with the sacrifice of this female lamb, become favourable and propitious to the Roman people, the Quirites, to the collegium of the quindecimviri, to myself, to my house, to my household.']

"Then Marcus Agrippa dictated to the one hundred and ten married women, mistresses of households, who had been commanded to assemble on the Capitoline Hill, the formula of prayer as follows: 'Juno Regina, if there is any better fortune that may attend the Roman people, the Quirites, we one hundred and ten mistresses of households of the Roman people, the Quirites, married women on bended knee, pray that you[bring it about, we beg and beseech that you increase the power and majesty of the Roman people, the Quirites in war and peace; and that the Latins may always be obedient; and that you may grant eternal safety, victory and health to the Roman people, the Quirites; and that you may protect the Roman people, the Quirites, and the legions of the Roman people, the Quirites; and [that you may keep safe and make greater] the state of the Roman people, the Quirites; and that you may be favourable and propitious to the Roman people, the Quirites, to the quindecimviri sacris faciundis, to us, [to our houses, to our households. These are the things that we one hundred and ten mistresses of households of the Roman people, the Quirites, married women on bended knee, pray, beg, and beseech.' At the sacred vessel were Marcus Agrippa...

"Games were held on the previous day [...]

"Then by night, next to the Tiber, the emperor Caesar Augustus sacrificed a pregnant sow, as a whole burnt offering, to Terra Mater, and spoke the following prayer: 'Terra Mater, as it is prescribed for you in those books –and for this reason may every good fortune attend the Roman people, the Quirites – let sacrifice be made to you with a pregnant sow of your own, as a whole burnt offering. I beg and pray.' The rest as above.

"The matrons held a sellsternia on this day in the same manner as on the previous day." ~ CIL 6.32323 Lines 119-138

Id est:

"Juno Regina, we, one hundred and ten the mothers of the families of the people of Rome, the Quirites, pray You allow what is now beneficial to the people of Rome, the Quirites, may then be made better, and we brides implore You to aid and increase the sovereign power and majesty of the people of Rome, the Quirites, in war and peace, and always to watch over the fame of the Latins. And may You favor the people of Rome, the Quirites, and the legions of the people of Rome, the Quirites, and preserve the republic of the people of Rome, the Quirites, and may You willingly favor and prosper us, our homes, and our families. This is what the one hundred and ten mothers of the families of the people of Rome, the Quirites, we brides of our families, pray, entreat, and implore You to grant." ~ CIL 6.32329. 10 sqq. Acta Sacrorum Saecularium addition


AUC 946 / 193 CE: Death of Emperor Didius Julianus

"In a short time Julianus was deserted by all and left alone in the Palace with one of his prefects, Genialis, and with Repentinus, his son-in law. Finally, it was proposed that the imperial power be taken away from Julianus by order of the senate. This was done, and Severus was forthwith acclaimed emperor, while it was given out that Julianus had taken poison. Nevertheless, the senate dispatched a delegation and through their efforts Julianus was slain in the Palace by a common soldier, while beseeching the protection of Caesar, that is to say, Severus."

"He lived fifty-six years and four months. He ruled two months and five days." ~ Historia Augusta, Didius Iulianus 8.6-8; 9.3


Today's thought is from Epictetus, Discourses 1.30.1:

"When you appear before some man of authority, remember that there is another who looks down from above on what passes here, and that it is Him whom you must please rather than this man."

Catone

So you used another email address, with a different name, to go around your moderation? That makes you a Troll, and one who has violated his moderation after repeated admonitions.

This time, proselytizing as you did by abusing a holiday meant to memorialize war heroes, you have placed yourself into the same category as those Baptists who appear at military funerals to bate the members of mourning families just so they can draw attention to their own extremist views. Disrespectful, insidious irritants, just like you.

The Praetrices were entirely correct, acting as they did after issuing warnings to you first, as had Praetores before them warned you not to proselytize, and taking further action only after you violated those warnings. And now, IMO they would be entirely correct to take further action against you for this breach of your moderation.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "csentiusleoninus" <leoninus@...> wrote:

<snipped>

>
> Cato omnibus in foro SPD
>
> I have been placed on
> moderation.

> Valete,
>
> Cato
>

<<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:

Hello all,
 
I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
 
Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
 
 
Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
 
Welcome to Nova Roma!
There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/%c2%a0If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29%c2%a0 Scroll down to the map and see what province you live in.
If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in learning more about it, this list that might interest you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our website.
Again, welcome!
 
Vale bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina




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Aeternia Piscino omnibus spd,


This is Hogwash... Cato did no such thing of trolling... If you actually
think about it, all new citizens' posts get moderated for a certain amount
of time. So if Cato were to create a alter ego within the last 24 hrs,
this post should not have seen the light of day according to the guidelines
of this actual forum. This would fall under a dereliction and laxity of
duty on the part of Praetrice's and their minions errr assistants, there is
no sock-puppetry at play here. Will the person who posted on behalf of Cato
at least speak forth, so the air may be cleared upon this situation and rest
assuredly the troubled mind of the Pontifex Maximus before this becomes
overly dramatic than it needs to.

Vale,
Aeternia

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, marcushoratius <MHoratius@...>wrote:

>
>
> Catone
>
> So you used another email address, with a different name, to go around your
> moderation? That makes you a Troll, and one who has violated his moderation
> after repeated admonitions.
>
> This time, proselytizing as you did by abusing a holiday meant to
> memorialize war heroes, you have placed yourself into the same category as
> those Baptists who appear at military funerals to bate the members of
> mourning families just so they can draw attention to their own extremist
> views. Disrespectful, insidious irritants, just like you.
>
> The Praetrices were entirely correct, acting as they did after issuing
> warnings to you first, as had Praetores before them warned you not to
> proselytize, and taking further action only after you violated those
> warnings. And now, IMO they would be entirely correct to take further action
> against you for this breach of your moderation.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "csentiusleoninus" <leoninus@...> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> >
> > Cato omnibus in foro SPD
> >
> > I have been placed on
> > moderation.
>
> > Valete,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete,

After re-reading this four times, this wasn't actually accusing Cato of what
I had mentioned of creating alternate personas, that was an error on my
part, which I apologize to Piscinus for and that only.

Still this isn't trolling, having the right to speak out when being accused
of something one did not do...

Cato's moderation was unfair, and I shall leave it at that.

Vale,
Aeternia

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:

> Aeternia Piscino omnibus spd,
>
>
> This is Hogwash... Cato did no such thing of trolling... If you actually
> think about it, all new citizens' posts get moderated for a certain amount
> of time. So if Cato were to create a alter ego within the last 24 hrs,
> this post should not have seen the light of day according to the guidelines
> of this actual forum. This would fall under a dereliction and laxity of
> duty on the part of Praetrice's and their minions errr assistants, there is
> no sock-puppetry at play here. Will the person who posted on behalf of Cato
> at least speak forth, so the air may be cleared upon this situation and rest
> assuredly the troubled mind of the Pontifex Maximus before this becomes
> overly dramatic than it needs to.
>
> Vale,
> Aeternia
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, marcushoratius <MHoratius@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Catone
>>
>> So you used another email address, with a different name, to go around
>> your moderation? That makes you a Troll, and one who has violated his
>> moderation after repeated admonitions.
>>
>> This time, proselytizing as you did by abusing a holiday meant to
>> memorialize war heroes, you have placed yourself into the same category as
>> those Baptists who appear at military funerals to bate the members of
>> mourning families just so they can draw attention to their own extremist
>> views. Disrespectful, insidious irritants, just like you.
>>
>> The Praetrices were entirely correct, acting as they did after issuing
>> warnings to you first, as had Praetores before them warned you not to
>> proselytize, and taking further action only after you violated those
>> warnings. And now, IMO they would be entirely correct to take further action
>> against you for this breach of your moderation.
>>
>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> "csentiusleoninus" <leoninus@...> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> >
>> > Cato omnibus in foro SPD
>> >
>> > I have been placed on
>> > moderation.
>>
>> > Valete,
>> >
>> > Cato
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Aeternia!

I will not address the moderation issue because in my assessment there is much more to it than meets the eye - on all the actors' part and this current affair could have been averted.

However on the posting issue. At first I thought this was the Magistra's Latin assistant C. Sentius Leoninus, but it was beyond me why he should post for Cato. I did a brief search and the email "csentiusleoninus" goes back to Dec 17th 2009 and that asks a question that in my opinion, Leoninus, quite a good in Latin, would have known or would have at least googled the acronym.But it is possible. If this is not the Magistra's Leoninus then maybe bringing up an alternative persona may have some validity. However rather than waste time I wrote Leoninus in hopes another can of worms will not be opened on the ML.

Cura ut valeas amica,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>
> After re-reading this four times, this wasn't actually accusing Cato of what
> I had mentioned of creating alternate personas, that was an error on my
> part, which I apologize to Piscinus for and that only.
>
> Still this isn't trolling, having the right to speak out when being accused
> of something one did not do...
>
> Cato's moderation was unfair, and I shall leave it at that.
>
> Vale,
> Aeternia
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
>
> > Aeternia Piscino omnibus spd,
> >
> >
> > This is Hogwash... Cato did no such thing of trolling... If you actually
> > think about it, all new citizens' posts get moderated for a certain amount
> > of time. So if Cato were to create a alter ego within the last 24 hrs,
> > this post should not have seen the light of day according to the guidelines
> > of this actual forum. This would fall under a dereliction and laxity of
> > duty on the part of Praetrice's and their minions errr assistants, there is
> > no sock-puppetry at play here. Will the person who posted on behalf of Cato
> > at least speak forth, so the air may be cleared upon this situation and rest
> > assuredly the troubled mind of the Pontifex Maximus before this becomes
> > overly dramatic than it needs to.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Aeternia
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, marcushoratius <MHoratius@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Catone
> >>
> >> So you used another email address, with a different name, to go around
> >> your moderation? That makes you a Troll, and one who has violated his
> >> moderation after repeated admonitions.
> >>
> >> This time, proselytizing as you did by abusing a holiday meant to
> >> memorialize war heroes, you have placed yourself into the same category as
> >> those Baptists who appear at military funerals to bate the members of
> >> mourning families just so they can draw attention to their own extremist
> >> views. Disrespectful, insidious irritants, just like you.
> >>
> >> The Praetrices were entirely correct, acting as they did after issuing
> >> warnings to you first, as had Praetores before them warned you not to
> >> proselytize, and taking further action only after you violated those
> >> warnings. And now, IMO they would be entirely correct to take further action
> >> against you for this breach of your moderation.
> >>
> >> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> "csentiusleoninus" <leoninus@> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snipped>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Cato omnibus in foro SPD
> >> >
> >> > I have been placed on
> >> > moderation.
> >>
> >> > Valete,
> >> >
> >> > Cato
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salvete Quirites!

I want to remind You all of the need for candidates for the coming
election. The Res Publica really need You!

We now have one candidate for the position as CURULE AEDILE and we
don't any more candidates, but it is always nice to se more candidates
for such an important position.

We still need ONE more candidate for one position as ROGATOR, at the
moment we have only one. As this is a magistratesassiting the
Censores, it is an important position which is very much needed by
the Res Publica and it wil give a lot of experience of the inner
workings of the Res Publica.

We still have ZERO candidate for the the for TWO positions as
Quaestores. The position is the first step in the Cursus Honorum and
one of the offices needed to be able to stand for higher offices. The
Questorship is a good start in ones career in Nova Roma and each
Aedilis Plebis will have a Quaestor at their side. Working as a
Quaestor is also a good way to learn the ropes.

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae

Salvete omnes,

I am pleased to pass on that there is no "alternative persona" - Leoninus kindly responded promptly to my enquiry and confirmed that he did post Cato's response to his moderation.

Valete,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Aeternia!
>
> I will not address the moderation issue because in my assessment there is much more to it than meets the eye - on all the actors' part and this current affair could have been averted.
>
> However on the posting issue. At first I thought this was the Magistra's Latin assistant C. Sentius Leoninus, but it was beyond me why he should post for Cato. I did a brief search and the email "csentiusleoninus" goes back to Dec 17th 2009 and that asks a question that in my opinion, Leoninus, quite a good in Latin, would have known or would have at least googled the acronym.But it is possible. If this is not the Magistra's Leoninus then maybe bringing up an alternative persona may have some validity. However rather than waste time I wrote Leoninus in hopes another can of worms will not be opened on the ML.
>
> Cura ut valeas amica,
>
> Julia
>
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete,
> >
> > After re-reading this four times, this wasn't actually accusing Cato of what
> > I had mentioned of creating alternate personas, that was an error on my
> > part, which I apologize to Piscinus for and that only.
> >
> > Still this isn't trolling, having the right to speak out when being accused
> > of something one did not do...
> >
> > Cato's moderation was unfair, and I shall leave it at that.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Aeternia
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@> wrote:
> >
> > > Aeternia Piscino omnibus spd,
> > >
> > >
> > > This is Hogwash... Cato did no such thing of trolling... If you actually
> > > think about it, all new citizens' posts get moderated for a certain amount
> > > of time. So if Cato were to create a alter ego within the last 24 hrs,
> > > this post should not have seen the light of day according to the guidelines
> > > of this actual forum. This would fall under a dereliction and laxity of
> > > duty on the part of Praetrice's and their minions errr assistants, there is
> > > no sock-puppetry at play here. Will the person who posted on behalf of Cato
> > > at least speak forth, so the air may be cleared upon this situation and rest
> > > assuredly the troubled mind of the Pontifex Maximus before this becomes
> > > overly dramatic than it needs to.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > > Aeternia
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, marcushoratius <MHoratius@>wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Catone
> > >>
> > >> So you used another email address, with a different name, to go around
> > >> your moderation? That makes you a Troll, and one who has violated his
> > >> moderation after repeated admonitions.
> > >>
> > >> This time, proselytizing as you did by abusing a holiday meant to
> > >> memorialize war heroes, you have placed yourself into the same category as
> > >> those Baptists who appear at military funerals to bate the members of
> > >> mourning families just so they can draw attention to their own extremist
> > >> views. Disrespectful, insidious irritants, just like you.
> > >>
> > >> The Praetrices were entirely correct, acting as they did after issuing
> > >> warnings to you first, as had Praetores before them warned you not to
> > >> proselytize, and taking further action only after you violated those
> > >> warnings. And now, IMO they would be entirely correct to take further action
> > >> against you for this breach of your moderation.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > >> "csentiusleoninus" <leoninus@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> <snipped>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Cato omnibus in foro SPD
> > >> >
> > >> > I have been placed on
> > >> > moderation.
> > >>
> > >> > Valete,
> > >> >
> > >> > Cato
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Salve, Iulia Aquila
 
Gratias tibi ago for taking the time and initiative to clear that matter up. I, and I am sure many other Citizens, appreciate your efforts.
 
Vale bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 


<<--- On Wed, 6/2/10, luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

Salvete omnes,

I am pleased to pass on that there is no "alternative persona" - Leoninus kindly responded promptly to my enquiry and confirmed that he did post Cato's response to his moderation.

Valete,

Julia>>




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Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

The Fourteenth Consular edict CFBQ on the call for the elections in
Comitia Populi Tributa

I. I have received the Auguria for the elections in Comitia Populi
Tributa from Magister Collegium Augurii M. Moravius Piscinus with an
approving result.

II: Therefore the Contio will begin next 15th June at 06.00 hour (CET,
time of Rome) until 23rd June at 05.59 hour (time of Roma).

III. Voting will begin 24th June at 06.00 hour (time of Roma) until
06.01 CET Rome on 29 June (CET, time of Rome) for five full days.

IV. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given this 2nd of June, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo
Quintilianus, 2763 AUC.

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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>
> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Juliae Aquilae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> I am pleased to pass on that there is no "alternative persona" - Leoninus
> kindly responded promptly to my enquiry and confirmed that he did post Cato's
> response to his moderation.
>
> ATS: Methinks there is only one CSL, my friend and webmaster, as well as
> occasional corrector of GL I homework (even exams!). He is an excellent
> Latinist, my best male student ever in GL, the best who has completed both the
> Grammatica Latina AND the Sermo Latinus courses, a shy member of the BA, and
> being from a country which values freedom, may have responded to a request
> from Cato. On this occasion at least, there does not appear to be any
> justification for the moderation, which was not even mentioned in cohors, let
> alone discussed. There is nothing wrong with commemorating Memorial Day /
> Decoration Day, whether or not it is celebrated in one country or every member
> of the UN and then some. There are religious overtones to service in the
> military, and copying a piece containing such material should not cause
> problems for anyone sensible. Problem is that not everyone fulfills the last
> requirement.
>
> Valete,
>
> Julia
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Salve Aeternia!
>> >
>> > I will not address the moderation issue because in my assessment there is
>> much more to it than meets the eye - on all the actors' part and this current
>> affair could have been averted.
>> >
>> > However on the posting issue. At first I thought this was the Magistra's
>> Latin assistant C. Sentius Leoninus, but it was beyond me why he should post
>> for Cato. I did a brief search and the email "csentiusleoninus" goes back to
>> Dec 17th 2009 and that asks a question that in my opinion, Leoninus, quite a
>> good in Latin, would have known or would have at least googled the
>> acronym.But it is possible. If this is not the Magistra's Leoninus then maybe
>> bringing up an alternative persona may have some validity. However rather
>> than waste time I wrote Leoninus in hopes another can of worms will not be
>> opened on the ML.
>> >
>> > Cura ut valeas amica,
>> >
>> > Julia
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ,
>> Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Salvete,
>>> > >
>>> > > After re-reading this four times, this wasn't actually accusing Cato of
>>> what
>>> > > I had mentioned of creating alternate personas, that was an error on my
>>> > > part, which I apologize to Piscinus for and that only.
>>> > >
>>> > > Still this isn't trolling, having the right to speak out when being
>>> accused
>>> > > of something one did not do...
>>> > >
>>> > > Cato's moderation was unfair, and I shall leave it at that.
>>> > >
>>> > > Vale,
>>> > > Aeternia
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>>> > > > Aeternia Piscino omnibus spd,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > This is Hogwash... Cato did no such thing of trolling... If you
>>>> actually
>>>> > > > think about it, all new citizens' posts get moderated for a certain
>>>> amount
>>>> > > > of time. So if Cato were to create a alter ego within the last 24

hrs,

>>>> > > > this post should not have seen the light of day according to the
>>>> guidelines
>>>> > > > of this actual forum. This would fall under a dereliction and laxity

of

>>>> > > > duty on the part of Praetrice's and their minions errr assistants,
>>>> there is
>>>> > > > no sock-puppetry at play here. Will the person who posted on behalf
>>>> of Cato
>>>> > > > at least speak forth, so the air may be cleared upon this situation
>>>> and rest
>>>> > > > assuredly the troubled mind of the Pontifex Maximus before this >>>>

becomes

>>>> > > > overly dramatic than it needs to.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Vale,
>>>> > > > Aeternia

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Ex Officio Tribunae Plebis Maximae Valeriae Messallinae Quiritibus S.P.D.  
 

For the purpose of the election of a new Aedile Plebis, I will convene the Comitia Plebis Tributa to start with the contio on June 15, 2010 at 06:00 hours CET, Rome time (12:00 a.m. EDT) and will end at 05:59 hours CET, Rome time (11:59 p.m. EDT) on June 23, 2010.
 
Voting will begin at 06:00 hours CET, Rome time (12:00 a.m. EDT) on June 24, 2010 and end at 06:01 hours CET, Rome time (12:01 a.m. EDT) on June 29, 2010.
 

I hereby call for candidates for the position of I (one) Aedile Plebis.
 
Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian order, assidui and at least 21 years of age as of Kal. Quintilis 2763 auc., (July 1, 2010).  

Candidates are welcome to announce themselves forthwith and begin campaigning if they wish. 
 
In order to be placed on the ballot, all potential candidates must contact me directly with their intention to stand for the above office by sending a message to:
maximavaleriamessallina@...
 
Simply announcing your candidacy to one of the lists shall not be accepted. You must write to me directly.
 
Please include the word "Candidate" in the subject line and please also state your full Nova Roman name in your email.  
 
Candidacies will be accepted until 18:00 hours CET, Rome time (12:00 p.m. EDT) on June 12, 2010. 
 


Thank you.
 
 
Valete bene in pace Deorum,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
Tribuna Plebis




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Salve Julia,


Yeah I know, I'm sure you're wondering what on earth I was possibly
thinking... I find myself asking the same question, I don't regret the
actions just the direction I decided to take it.. Piscinus' came up with
some tricky statements, left a great deal to be "alluded" to.. There was
an error on my judgement I'll admit that, but that doesn't excuse the fact
that I believe wholeheartedly that Senator Cato did nothing wrong, he
honored the dead in his own weird little way we should all be used to seeing
these particular types of posts from him by now . The time of this
moderation has now passed, as much as I'd like go into the query as why
does keep happening every couple months. I find this has left me a bitter
aftertaste and just not worth the dramatics, something more productive
should be occuring.

Vale,
Aeternia
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:04 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salve Aeternia!
>
> I will not address the moderation issue because in my assessment there is
> much more to it than meets the eye - on all the actors' part and this
> current affair could have been averted.
>
> However on the posting issue. At first I thought this was the Magistra's
> Latin assistant C. Sentius Leoninus, but it was beyond me why he should post
> for Cato. I did a brief search and the email "csentiusleoninus" goes back to
> Dec 17th 2009 and that asks a question that in my opinion, Leoninus, quite a
> good in Latin, would have known or would have at least googled the
> acronym.But it is possible. If this is not the Magistra's Leoninus then
> maybe bringing up an alternative persona may have some validity. However
> rather than waste time I wrote Leoninus in hopes another can of worms will
> not be opened on the ML.
>
> Cura ut valeas amica,
>
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Belle
> Morte <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete,
> >
> > After re-reading this four times, this wasn't actually accusing Cato of
> what
> > I had mentioned of creating alternate personas, that was an error on my
> > part, which I apologize to Piscinus for and that only.
> >
> > Still this isn't trolling, having the right to speak out when being
> accused
> > of something one did not do...
> >
> > Cato's moderation was unfair, and I shall leave it at that.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Aeternia
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Belle Morte <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Aeternia Piscino omnibus spd,
> > >
> > >
> > > This is Hogwash... Cato did no such thing of trolling... If you
> actually
> > > think about it, all new citizens' posts get moderated for a certain
> amount
> > > of time. So if Cato were to create a alter ego within the last 24 hrs,
> > > this post should not have seen the light of day according to the
> guidelines
> > > of this actual forum. This would fall under a dereliction and laxity of
> > > duty on the part of Praetrice's and their minions errr assistants,
> there is
> > > no sock-puppetry at play here. Will the person who posted on behalf of
> Cato
> > > at least speak forth, so the air may be cleared upon this situation and
> rest
> > > assuredly the troubled mind of the Pontifex Maximus before this becomes
> > > overly dramatic than it needs to.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > > Aeternia
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, marcushoratius <MHoratius@...>wrote:
>
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Catone
> > >>
> > >> So you used another email address, with a different name, to go around
> > >> your moderation? That makes you a Troll, and one who has violated his
> > >> moderation after repeated admonitions.
> > >>
> > >> This time, proselytizing as you did by abusing a holiday meant to
> > >> memorialize war heroes, you have placed yourself into the same
> category as
> > >> those Baptists who appear at military funerals to bate the members of
> > >> mourning families just so they can draw attention to their own
> extremist
> > >> views. Disrespectful, insidious irritants, just like you.
> > >>
> > >> The Praetrices were entirely correct, acting as they did after issuing
> > >> warnings to you first, as had Praetores before them warned you not to
> > >> proselytize, and taking further action only after you violated those
> > >> warnings. And now, IMO they would be entirely correct to take further
> action
> > >> against you for this breach of your moderation.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>
> > >> "csentiusleoninus" <leoninus@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> <snipped>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Cato omnibus in foro SPD
> > >> >
> > >> > I have been placed on
> > >> > moderation.
> > >>
> > >> > Valete,
> > >> >
> > >> > Cato
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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Cato reminds me of the story of the little boy who had a stick and every chance he got, he would poke the family dog with his stick. Sometimes, the dog would ignore him, sometimes the dog would growl at him, but the little boy would not take the hint and kept poking the dog every chance he got. Finally, the dog bit him and then the little boy went crying to his parents claiming that the dog was mean and vicious to him alone.
Uh-huh....
 
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina




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C. Maria Caeca omnibus in Foro S. P. D.



I will be the first to admit that, on more than one occasion, I have been
exasperated by Cato's religious posts, usually because I either thought they
were unnecessary and added nothing to the ongoing discussion, or because I
found that they contained way more information about the Greek Orthodox
faith than I wanted, or needed, to know. However, if I lost interest, as I
often have, I just shrugged, hit delete, and went on to the next post. The
one thing I have *never* felt, and still don't, was threatened. I'm
comfortable with my personal spiritual choices, and have no problem with
other people who have made different choices speaking of theirs, in a
general way. Now .if Cato showed up on my doorstep with copies of the
Watchtower, or insisting that I "come to the one true faith" There would
be .issues .but he hasn't, and he won't. I've never seen that sort of
behavior from him, and besides, he wouldn't consider me worth the time or
bother.



What he posted on Memorial day was a passage from a sacred book. So
happens, it is his sacred book .and while I would have preferred the
beautiful language of the King James version, since there was no comment, no
dissertation, or even an explanation as to his reasons for posting, I just
assumed it was meant as a Memorial Day tribute, and let it go at that. When
Maior posted the passage concerning the self sacrifice of the Roman hero, I
felt it provided a lovely and elegant counter balance .and thought no more
about the matter.



I am going to digress for a moment, but you will see why, I think. I was
maybe 11 or 12 when the then leader of the American Nazi party was shot and
killed in Virginia. I happened to hear the news on our car radio, while
going somewhere with my Mother, and my reaction was basically, "good. They
should shoot them all and not allow the Nazis in the US" or words to that
effect. She said something then that has remained with me, and taught me
more about what freedom means than, I think, anything else. The gist of
what she said was that, if we expect to *have* freedom for ourselves, we
must *give* the same freedom, even to people or ideas we don't like or with
which we disagree, even violently. To do anything else denies them, but it
endangers us.



I think that the same philosophy applies. If the Constitution protects our
right to practice and discuss the Religio Romana .and it does .it also
protects people of other religions to speak of, and practice their faiths.
If we can speak of the things we hold sacred, publicly, then so can
they .and if we deny them that right, ultimately, we endanger our own
rights, because either the protections of the NR Constitution concerning
appropriate speech applies to *all* of us, or it applies to *none* of us.



Respectfully,

Valete Bene,

C. Maria Caeca

Salve ,C.Maria Caeca,spd
 
Here! Here! Very well said.Like a true American.Thank you for that.Let Freedom ring.
 
Vale bene,
Appius Galerius Aurelianus

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, C.Maria Caeca <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:


From: C.Maria Caeca <c.mariacaeca@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Cato's moderation
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 7:51 PM


 



C. Maria Caeca omnibus in Foro S. P. D.

I will be the first to admit that, on more than one occasion, I have been
exasperated by Cato's religious posts, usually because I either thought they
were unnecessary and added nothing to the ongoing discussion, or because I
found that they contained way more information about the Greek Orthodox
faith than I wanted, or needed, to know. However, if I lost interest, as I
often have, I just shrugged, hit delete, and went on to the next post. The
one thing I have *never* felt, and still don't, was threatened. I'm
comfortable with my personal spiritual choices, and have no problem with
other people who have made different choices speaking of theirs, in a
general way. Now .if Cato showed up on my doorstep with copies of the
Watchtower, or insisting that I "come to the one true faith" There would
be .issues .but he hasn't, and he won't. I've never seen that sort of
behavior from him, and besides, he wouldn't consider me worth the time or
bother.

What he posted on Memorial day was a passage from a sacred book. So
happens, it is his sacred book .and while I would have preferred the
beautiful language of the King James version, since there was no comment, no
dissertation, or even an explanation as to his reasons for posting, I just
assumed it was meant as a Memorial Day tribute, and let it go at that. When
Maior posted the passage concerning the self sacrifice of the Roman hero, I
felt it provided a lovely and elegant counter balance .and thought no more
about the matter.

I am going to digress for a moment, but you will see why, I think. I was
maybe 11 or 12 when the then leader of the American Nazi party was shot and
killed in Virginia. I happened to hear the news on our car radio, while
going somewhere with my Mother, and my reaction was basically, "good. They
should shoot them all and not allow the Nazis in the US" or words to that
effect. She said something then that has remained with me, and taught me
more about what freedom means than, I think, anything else. The gist of
what she said was that, if we expect to *have* freedom for ourselves, we
must *give* the same freedom, even to people or ideas we don't like or with
which we disagree, even violently. To do anything else denies them, but it
endangers us.

I think that the same philosophy applies. If the Constitution protects our
right to practice and discuss the Religio Romana .and it does .it also
protects people of other religions to speak of, and practice their faiths.
If we can speak of the things we hold sacred, publicly, then so can
they .and if we deny them that right, ultimately, we endanger our own
rights, because either the protections of the NR Constitution concerning
appropriate speech applies to *all* of us, or it applies to *none* of us.

Respectfully,

Valete Bene,

C. Maria Caeca











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Hello Maxima,
 
I got your reply and Ty. I'll try to join these yahoo groups ASAP. I live in the wild territory in Washington State in a town of Bellingham, WA. I do love pagan/Wiccan religions around the ancient empires included ours, the roman empire. So ty for that. bye.
 
Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:


From: Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Hello all
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 6:58 AM


 





<<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:

Hello all,
 
I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
 
Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
 
 
Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
 
Welcome to Nova Roma!
There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/%c2%a0If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29%c2%a0 Scroll down to the map and see what province you live in.
If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in learning more about it, this list that might interest you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our website.
Again, welcome!
 
Vale bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina

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M. Moravius Piscinus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Bellona consilia communicet cum nos.

Hodie est ante diem III Nonas Iunonias; haec dies comitialis est: sacra Bellonae; Ludi Saecilares

AUC 399 / 354 ACE M. Fabius Ambustus held a triumph this day for his victory over the Tiburtines. ~ Fasti Triumphales

AUC 457 / 296 BCE: Temple of Bellona vowed; it became the place where declarations of war were posted in the Campus Martius.

"If today, Bellona, You grant us victory, a new temple I vow." ~ Titus Livius 10.19.17-18

Appius Claudius vowed a temple for Bellona during a war with the Etruscans. The date of its dedication is not known. There was a tradition that an earlier Appius Claudius, consul in 495 BCE had dedicated statues of his ancestors in a temple of Bellona (Pliny, H. N. 35.12). At the very least, it would seem that this Sabine Goddess may have been brought to Rome by the Claudii. She was at times explained as sister of Mars. At other times She appears as though She were wife of Mars, and some have suggested She replaced or absorbed the earlier Nerio. In the Imperial era She became assimilated with an Oriental War Goddess of the same name. The Oriental Bellona was sometimes identified with the Magna Mater. Her eastern priests performed a sword dance for Bellona in which they scored one another and flailed their blood about as they whirled.

A legend said that during the war with Pyrrhus of Epirus the fetiales of Rome were unable to perform the traditional ritual for declaring war because Pyrrhus had no land in Italy on which to cast a spear. Thus the Romans captured an Epiroite soldier and forced him to buy a plot of land in front of the Temple of Bellona. From then afterwards a fetialis would cast his iron spear from the columella onto this "foreign" land. (Livy 1.32.12; Ovid, Fasti 6.205 ff) As the Temple lay outside the pomoerium, Bellona's aedes became the preferred location for Roman generals to meet with foreign ambassadors since a Consul still under arms could not enter the City.

Plutarch, Roman Questions 43

"Why do the ambassadors to Rome, from whatever country they come, proceed to the Temple of Saturnus and register with the praefect of the treasury? Is it because Saturnus was a foreigner, and consequently takes pleasure in foreigners, or is the solution of this question also to be found in history? For it seems that in early days the treasurers used to send gifts to ambassadors, which were called lautia, and cared for the ambassadors when they were sick, and buried them at public expense if they died; but now, owing to the great number of embassies that come, this expensive practice has been discontinued; yet there still remains the preliminary meeting with the praefectus of the treasury in the guise of registration."


AUC 736 / 17 BCE: Ludi Saeculares continued into the third day

"Three days before the Nones of June (3 June), on the Palatine, the emperor Caesar Augustus and Marcus Agrippa made sacrifice [to Apollo and Diana with nine cakes,] nine popana, nine phthoes and they spoke a [prayer] as follows: 'Apollo, as it is prescribed for you in those books – and for this reason may every good fortune attend the Roman people, the Quiries – let sacrifice be made to you with nine popana, and nine cakes, and nine phthoes. I beg and pray.' The rest as above. 'Apollo, just as I have offered popana and prayed to you with proper prayer, for this same reason be honoured with these sacrificial cakes. Become favourable and propitious.' The same was said concerning the phthoes. To Diana in the same words.

"When the sacrifice was completed, the twenty-seven boys, who had been commanded, their fathers and mothers still living, and the same number of girls, sang the hymn. And in the same manner on the Capitoline. The hymn was composed by Quintus Horatius Flaccus. The quindecimviri were present: the emperor Caesar, Marcus Agrippa, Quintus Lepidus, Potitus Messalla, Caius Stolo, Caius Scaevola, Caius Sosius, Caius Norbanus, Marcus Cocceius, Marcus Lollius, Caius Sentius, Marcus Strigo, Lucius Arruntius, Caius Asinius, Marcus Marcellus, Decimus Laelius, Quintus Tubero, Caius Rebilus, Messalla Messallinus.

"When the theatrical games had ended at the [Â…] hour, close by that place where sacrifice had been made on the previous nights and a theatre had been set up and a stage, turning posts were set up and chariot racing was presented; Potitus Mesalla presented trick riders." ~ CIL 6.32323 Lines 139-154


Our thought for today is from Sextus 27:

"You should not possess more than the use of the body requires."

I, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, as a Lictor of Nova Roma, hereby witness
the appointment of Gaia Maria Caeca as a sacerdos Vestalis of Nova Roma.

As a member of the Comitia Curiata I wish her good fortune in her
office and in her work on behalf of the Religio Romana.


Ego, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, lictor curiatus Novae Romae testificor
Gaiam Mariam Caecam sacerdotem Vestae Novae Romae creari.

Lictor Comitiorum Curiatorum eis opto ut pro Religione Romana
felicissime officiis muneribusque suis fungantur.



CN-EQVIT-MARINVS

Salvete Omnes!

I, Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, as a Lictor of Nova Roma, hereby
witness the appointment of Gaia Maria Caeca as a sacerdos Vestalis of
Nova Roma.

As a member of the Comitia Curiata I wish her good fortune in her
office and in her work on behalf of the Religio Romana.



For a male Lictor:

Ego, Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus, lictor curiatus Novae Romae
testificor Gaiam Mariam Caecam sacerdotem Vestae Novae Romae creari.

Lictor Comitiorum Curiatorum eis opto ut pro Religione Romana
felicissime officiis muneribusque suis fungantur.

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae

I, Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus, as a Lictor of Nova Roma, hereby
witness the appointment of Gaia Maria Caeca as a sacerdos Vestalis of Nova
Roma.
As a member of the Comitia Curiata I wish her good fortune in her office and
in her work on behalf of the Religio Romana.

Ego, Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus, lictor curiatus Novae Romae
testificor Gaiam Mariam Caecam sacerdotem Vestae Novae Romae creari.
Lictor Comitiorum Curiatorum eis opto ut pro Religione Romana felicissime
officiis muneribusque suis fungantur.

--
"Qua(e) patres difficillime
adepti sunt nolite
turpiter relinquere" -
Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
(Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)

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Ex officio praetricum;

G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point. Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day moderation without prior private warning.

Constitution II.B.4
The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State, except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.

Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated in the interests of maintaining order and civility;

Equestria Iunia Laeca
M. Hortensia Maior


Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:16 AM

> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: The State Cult
> >
> >
> > Cato omnes SPD
> >
> > Salvete.
> >
> > After reading Agricole's post, and having given it considerable
> > thought, I would like to say this:
> >
> > To Minucia Marcella and any others who may have been offended,
> however
> > unintentionally, by the posting(s) regarding the Christian
> holiday
> > currently being celebrated, I apologize. My intent was only to
> share
> > my own celebration as others have shared theirs. I am still a
> little
> > perplexed that the celebration of His birth would cause such
> terrible,
> > visceral, and consuming disgust, but I must accept that it

does.

> >
> > We are coming to the tenth anniversary of the existence of the
> > Respublica; we are in the midst of various celebrations of the
> return
> > of light and warmth, and it is no time to be squabbling. I am
> grumpy
> > and opinionated and very, very stubborn - but then, I am a New
> Yorker.
> >
> > Agricole, as my Sicilian grandmother said to me on many
> occasions,
> > "Basta, stupidone!" while smacking me on the back of the head.
> Thank
> > you for the sentiment - and the smack :-)
> >
> > The absurd and offensive cry for expulsion will - or should -

be

> > answered by the law of the Respublica, not sniping in the

Forum.

> It
> > cuts to the heart of what it means to live in an open, free,

and

> > diverse community.
> >
> > Valete in pax,
> >
> > Cato

MINERVALIS 53939

Salvete Omnes,

I am definitely tired of reading all this Christian propaganda on a
list that is not the official list of the Vatican (but maybe I am wrong?)

I am the first to defend the absolute freedom of speech (as says
Themistocles to Eurybiade, "strike, but listen"), and I recognize the
rights of some Zealotes to present counterfeiters as historians,
traitors as heroes, murderers as models and to take pleasure to tell
stories which are childish things. However, even a stupid pagan like
me can understand that it is inappropriate to preach certain things in
certain places.

But since it seems so acceptable, I decided to found my own religion.
Yes, after christ, mahommet, luther and others, me, Minervalis, I'm
the last fashionable prophet! What a chance for you to honor a living
prophet and receive the Truth of his lips! To show your gratitude, you
will have only (for the moment) to do a headstand every hour in the
direction of Lugdunum (where I was born), singing my praises.

Of course, my faithful disciples, you are encouraged to convert by
force, as usual, all the infidels that you encounter. If they do not
want to give their money, kill them: "Dieu reconnaîtra les siens."

Vale,

Holy Minervalis the Great


C. MARIUS LUPUS

Salvete Omnes.

> >
> > Please,
> >
> > I joined NR mailing list two weeks ago with a big hope, but now I
> feel
> > confused and maybe I'll quit.
> >
> > Why all this low-profile christian propaganda?
> >
> > There's plenty of churches here around and no pagan temple. Why do
> I
> > have also to receive the "Christian-bulletin" into my mailbox?
> >
> > Please, before starting speaking about my intolerance, I want to
> remark
> > that I have nothing agaist christians, since I was myself a
> minister
> > and almost 90% the people I know is christian, but simply I find
> not
> > fair the usage of this mailing list for evangelization: there are
> > MILLIONS of christians mailing list around the net and the
> christian
> > guys there would be delighted to read christians poems in latin
> for
> > Christmas, Easter and so on!
> >
> > Is there any authority in NR that can clarify if I am wrong?
> >
> > Minervalis, thank you for your strong email.
> >
> > C.MARIVS LVPVS

Equestria Iunia Laeca, Praetrix Maior
M. Hortensia Maior, Ptaetrix Minor

Salvete cives,

Cato preastiam permanet facere video. Hic talis fatuitatem est. Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.

Nimium malum.

Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.

Cum eo, situs modo evenit.

Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.

Hic locus sensim peribunt.

Cogitate cives!

Valete

M. I. Scaeva

MAY 31, 2010

Ex Officio Praetricum;
G. Equitius Cato, as per II.B.4 of the Constitution, as of 23 hr. Rome time will be moderated for 24 hours.

you previously had been warned not to post bare religious texts on the Main List. This is considered spam and the praetrices have received complaints of proselytizing from the quirites.

We direct you to the sodalitas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_Christians/ where such posts will be welcome.
Equestria Iunia Laeca, Praetrix Maior
M. Hortensia Maior, Praetrix Minor



March 31, 2010

ex Officio Praetricus Equitio Catoni spd;
there have been complaints of posting of Religious texts without an historical or scholarly discussion. The usage LORD, is inflammatory, implying religious exclusivism. Please keep your posts in context.

This is a suggestion that you moderate your behavior on the ML.
valete
E. Iunia Laeca
M.Hortensia Maio

Message 74703#
Re: Pesach Tov!

Cato Piscino sal.

For it is written, 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the cleverness of
the clever I will set aside.' Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where
is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
... Because the foolishness
of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than
men." - I Corinthians 1:18,25

Vale!

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Ex officio praetricum;
>
> G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point. Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day moderation without prior private warning.
>
> Constitution II.B.4
> The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State, except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
>
> Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
>
> Equestria Iunia Laeca
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:16 AM
> > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: The State Cult
> > >
> > >
> > > Cato omnes SPD
> > >
> > > Salvete.
> > >
> > > After reading Agricole's post, and having given it considerable
> > > thought, I would like to say this:
> > >
> > > To Minucia Marcella and any others who may have been offended,
> > however
> > > unintentionally, by the posting(s) regarding the Christian
> > holiday
> > > currently being celebrated, I apologize. My intent was only to
> > share
> > > my own celebration as others have shared theirs. I am still a
> > little
> > > perplexed that the celebration of His birth would cause such
> > terrible,
> > > visceral, and consuming disgust, but I must accept that it
> does.
> > >
> > > We are coming to the tenth anniversary of the existence of the
> > > Respublica; we are in the midst of various celebrations of the
> > return
> > > of light and warmth, and it is no time to be squabbling. I am
> > grumpy
> > > and opinionated and very, very stubborn - but then, I am a New
> > Yorker.
> > >
> > > Agricole, as my Sicilian grandmother said to me on many
> > occasions,
> > > "Basta, stupidone!" while smacking me on the back of the head.
> > Thank
> > > you for the sentiment - and the smack :-)
> > >
> > > The absurd and offensive cry for expulsion will - or should -
> be
> > > answered by the law of the Respublica, not sniping in the
> Forum.
> > It
> > > cuts to the heart of what it means to live in an open, free,
> and
> > > diverse community.
> > >
> > > Valete in pax,
> > >
> > > Cato
>
> MINERVALIS 53939
>
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am definitely tired of reading all this Christian propaganda on a
> list that is not the official list of the Vatican (but maybe I am wrong?)
>
> I am the first to defend the absolute freedom of speech (as says
> Themistocles to Eurybiade, "strike, but listen"), and I recognize the
> rights of some Zealotes to present counterfeiters as historians,
> traitors as heroes, murderers as models and to take pleasure to tell
> stories which are childish things. However, even a stupid pagan like
> me can understand that it is inappropriate to preach certain things in
> certain places.
>
> But since it seems so acceptable, I decided to found my own religion.
> Yes, after christ, mahommet, luther and others, me, Minervalis, I'm
> the last fashionable prophet! What a chance for you to honor a living
> prophet and receive the Truth of his lips! To show your gratitude, you
> will have only (for the moment) to do a headstand every hour in the
> direction of Lugdunum (where I was born), singing my praises.
>
> Of course, my faithful disciples, you are encouraged to convert by
> force, as usual, all the infidels that you encounter. If they do not
> want to give their money, kill them: "Dieu reconnaîtra les siens."
>
> Vale,
>
> Holy Minervalis the Great
>
>
> C. MARIUS LUPUS
>
> Salvete Omnes.
> > >
> > > Please,
> > >
> > > I joined NR mailing list two weeks ago with a big hope, but now I
> > feel
> > > confused and maybe I'll quit.
> > >
> > > Why all this low-profile christian propaganda?
> > >
> > > There's plenty of churches here around and no pagan temple. Why do
> > I
> > > have also to receive the "Christian-bulletin" into my mailbox?
> > >
> > > Please, before starting speaking about my intolerance, I want to
> > remark
> > > that I have nothing agaist christians, since I was myself a
> > minister
> > > and almost 90% the people I know is christian, but simply I find
> > not
> > > fair the usage of this mailing list for evangelization: there are
> > > MILLIONS of christians mailing list around the net and the
> > christian
> > > guys there would be delighted to read christians poems in latin
> > for
> > > Christmas, Easter and so on!
> > >
> > > Is there any authority in NR that can clarify if I am wrong?
> > >
> > > Minervalis, thank you for your strong email.
> > >
> > > C.MARIVS LVPVS
> Equestria Iunia Laeca, Praetrix Maior
> M. Hortensia Maior, Ptaetrix Minor
>

Ego Marca Hortensia Maior , lictrix curiata Novae Romae testificor Gaiam Mariam
Caecam sacerdotem Vestae Novae Romae creari.Â

Lictrix Comitiorum Curiatorum eis opto ut pro Religione Romana felicissime
officiis muneribusque suis
fungantur

--
I, Marca Hortensia Maior, as a Lictrix of Nova Roma, hereby witness
the appointment of Gaia Maria Caeca as a sacerdos Vestalis of Nova Roma.

As a member of the Comitia Curiata I wish her good fortune in her
office and in her work on behalf of the Religio Romana.

Salvete Omnes et salvete Tribunes et salvete Consuls,

This moderation is clearly against the letter and spirit of the Constitution section cited. The part about "may be reasonably expected..." is NOT part of the Constitution.

I call upon the Tribunes and Consuls to veto this act.

Valete,

C. Popillius laenas

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Ex officio praetricum;
>
> G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point. Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day moderation without prior private warning.
>
> Constitution II.B.4
> The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State, except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
>
> Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
>
> Equestria Iunia Laeca
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:16 AM
> > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: The State Cult
> > >
> > >
> > > Cato omnes SPD
> > >
> > > Salvete.
> > >
> > > After reading Agricole's post, and having given it considerable
> > > thought, I would like to say this:
> > >
> > > To Minucia Marcella and any others who may have been offended,
> > however
> > > unintentionally, by the posting(s) regarding the Christian
> > holiday
> > > currently being celebrated, I apologize. My intent was only to
> > share
> > > my own celebration as others have shared theirs. I am still a
> > little
> > > perplexed that the celebration of His birth would cause such
> > terrible,
> > > visceral, and consuming disgust, but I must accept that it
> does.
> > >
> > > We are coming to the tenth anniversary of the existence of the
> > > Respublica; we are in the midst of various celebrations of the
> > return
> > > of light and warmth, and it is no time to be squabbling. I am
> > grumpy
> > > and opinionated and very, very stubborn - but then, I am a New
> > Yorker.
> > >
> > > Agricole, as my Sicilian grandmother said to me on many
> > occasions,
> > > "Basta, stupidone!" while smacking me on the back of the head.
> > Thank
> > > you for the sentiment - and the smack :-)
> > >
> > > The absurd and offensive cry for expulsion will - or should -
> be
> > > answered by the law of the Respublica, not sniping in the
> Forum.
> > It
> > > cuts to the heart of what it means to live in an open, free,
> and
> > > diverse community.
> > >
> > > Valete in pax,
> > >
> > > Cato
>
> MINERVALIS 53939
>
> Salvete Omnes,
>
> I am definitely tired of reading all this Christian propaganda on a
> list that is not the official list of the Vatican (but maybe I am wrong?)
>
> I am the first to defend the absolute freedom of speech (as says
> Themistocles to Eurybiade, "strike, but listen"), and I recognize the
> rights of some Zealotes to present counterfeiters as historians,
> traitors as heroes, murderers as models and to take pleasure to tell
> stories which are childish things. However, even a stupid pagan like
> me can understand that it is inappropriate to preach certain things in
> certain places.
>
> But since it seems so acceptable, I decided to found my own religion.
> Yes, after christ, mahommet, luther and others, me, Minervalis, I'm
> the last fashionable prophet! What a chance for you to honor a living
> prophet and receive the Truth of his lips! To show your gratitude, you
> will have only (for the moment) to do a headstand every hour in the
> direction of Lugdunum (where I was born), singing my praises.
>
> Of course, my faithful disciples, you are encouraged to convert by
> force, as usual, all the infidels that you encounter. If they do not
> want to give their money, kill them: "Dieu reconnaîtra les siens."
>
> Vale,
>
> Holy Minervalis the Great
>
>
> C. MARIUS LUPUS
>
> Salvete Omnes.
> > >
> > > Please,
> > >
> > > I joined NR mailing list two weeks ago with a big hope, but now I
> > feel
> > > confused and maybe I'll quit.
> > >
> > > Why all this low-profile christian propaganda?
> > >
> > > There's plenty of churches here around and no pagan temple. Why do
> > I
> > > have also to receive the "Christian-bulletin" into my mailbox?
> > >
> > > Please, before starting speaking about my intolerance, I want to
> > remark
> > > that I have nothing agaist christians, since I was myself a
> > minister
> > > and almost 90% the people I know is christian, but simply I find
> > not
> > > fair the usage of this mailing list for evangelization: there are
> > > MILLIONS of christians mailing list around the net and the
> > christian
> > > guys there would be delighted to read christians poems in latin
> > for
> > > Christmas, Easter and so on!
> > >
> > > Is there any authority in NR that can clarify if I am wrong?
> > >
> > > Minervalis, thank you for your strong email.
> > >
> > > C.MARIVS LVPVS
> Equestria Iunia Laeca, Praetrix Maior
> M. Hortensia Maior, Ptaetrix Minor
>

B. The following rights of the Citizens who have reached the age of 18 shall be guaranteed, but this enumeration shall not be taken to exclude other rights that citizens may possess:
1. Complete authority over their own personal and household rites, rituals, and beliefs, pagan or otherwise; except where this Constitution mandates participation in the rites of the Religio Romana, such as the case of magistrates and Senators;
2. The right and obligation to remain subject to the civil rights and laws of the countries in which they reside and/or hold citizenship, regardless of their status as dual citizens of Nova Roma;
3. The right to vote in elections as members of their various comitia on matters brought before the People in such manner as described in this Constitution;
4. The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State, except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic. Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Current_constitution_(Nova_Roma)#II._Citizens_and_Gentes

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <gaiuspopillius@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Omnes et salvete Tribunes et salvete Consuls,
>
> This moderation is clearly against the letter and spirit of the Constitution section cited. The part about "may be reasonably expected..." is NOT part of the Constitution.
>
> I call upon the Tribunes and Consuls to veto this act.
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Popillius laenas
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@> wrote:
> >
> > Ex officio praetricum;
> >
> > G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point. Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day moderation without prior private warning.
> >
> > Constitution II.B.4
> > The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State, except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
> >
> > Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
> >
> > Equestria Iunia Laeca
> > M. Hortensia Maior
> >
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:16 AM
> > > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: The State Cult
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cato omnes SPD
> > > >
> > > > Salvete.
> > > >
> > > > After reading Agricole's post, and having given it considerable
> > > > thought, I would like to say this:
> > > >
> > > > To Minucia Marcella and any others who may have been offended,
> > > however
> > > > unintentionally, by the posting(s) regarding the Christian
> > > holiday
> > > > currently being celebrated, I apologize. My intent was only to
> > > share
> > > > my own celebration as others have shared theirs. I am still a
> > > little
> > > > perplexed that the celebration of His birth would cause such
> > > terrible,
> > > > visceral, and consuming disgust, but I must accept that it
> > does.
> > > >
> > > > We are coming to the tenth anniversary of the existence of the
> > > > Respublica; we are in the midst of various celebrations of the
> > > return
> > > > of light and warmth, and it is no time to be squabbling. I am
> > > grumpy
> > > > and opinionated and very, very stubborn - but then, I am a New
> > > Yorker.
> > > >
> > > > Agricole, as my Sicilian grandmother said to me on many
> > > occasions,
> > > > "Basta, stupidone!" while smacking me on the back of the head.
> > > Thank
> > > > you for the sentiment - and the smack :-)
> > > >
> > > > The absurd and offensive cry for expulsion will - or should -
> > be
> > > > answered by the law of the Respublica, not sniping in the
> > Forum.
> > > It
> > > > cuts to the heart of what it means to live in an open, free,
> > and
> > > > diverse community.
> > > >
> > > > Valete in pax,
> > > >
> > > > Cato
> >
> > MINERVALIS 53939
> >
> > Salvete Omnes,
> >
> > I am definitely tired of reading all this Christian propaganda on a
> > list that is not the official list of the Vatican (but maybe I am wrong?)
> >
> > I am the first to defend the absolute freedom of speech (as says
> > Themistocles to Eurybiade, "strike, but listen"), and I recognize the
> > rights of some Zealotes to present counterfeiters as historians,
> > traitors as heroes, murderers as models and to take pleasure to tell
> > stories which are childish things. However, even a stupid pagan like
> > me can understand that it is inappropriate to preach certain things in
> > certain places.
> >
> > But since it seems so acceptable, I decided to found my own religion.
> > Yes, after christ, mahommet, luther and others, me, Minervalis, I'm
> > the last fashionable prophet! What a chance for you to honor a living
> > prophet and receive the Truth of his lips! To show your gratitude, you
> > will have only (for the moment) to do a headstand every hour in the
> > direction of Lugdunum (where I was born), singing my praises.
> >
> > Of course, my faithful disciples, you are encouraged to convert by
> > force, as usual, all the infidels that you encounter. If they do not
> > want to give their money, kill them: "Dieu reconnaîtra les siens."
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Holy Minervalis the Great
> >
> >
> > C. MARIUS LUPUS
> >
> > Salvete Omnes.
> > > >
> > > > Please,
> > > >
> > > > I joined NR mailing list two weeks ago with a big hope, but now I
> > > feel
> > > > confused and maybe I'll quit.
> > > >
> > > > Why all this low-profile christian propaganda?
> > > >
> > > > There's plenty of churches here around and no pagan temple. Why do
> > > I
> > > > have also to receive the "Christian-bulletin" into my mailbox?
> > > >
> > > > Please, before starting speaking about my intolerance, I want to
> > > remark
> > > > that I have nothing agaist christians, since I was myself a
> > > minister
> > > > and almost 90% the people I know is christian, but simply I find
> > > not
> > > > fair the usage of this mailing list for evangelization: there are
> > > > MILLIONS of christians mailing list around the net and the
> > > christian
> > > > guys there would be delighted to read christians poems in latin
> > > for
> > > > Christmas, Easter and so on!
> > > >
> > > > Is there any authority in NR that can clarify if I am wrong?
> > > >
> > > > Minervalis, thank you for your strong email.
> > > >
> > > > C.MARIVS LVPVS
> > Equestria Iunia Laeca, Praetrix Maior
> > M. Hortensia Maior, Ptaetrix Minor
> >
>

I, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, as a Lictor of Nova Roma, hereby witness
the appointment of Gaia Maria Caeca as a sacerdos Vestalis of Nova Roma.

As a member of the Comitia Curiata I wish her good fortune in her
office and in her work on behalf of the Religio Romana.

Ego, Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, lictor curiatus Novae Romae testificor
Gaiam Mariam Caecam sacerdotem Vestae Novae Romae creari.

Lictor Comitiorum Curiatorum eis opto ut pro Religione Romana
felicissime officiis muneribusque suis fungantur.

Salvete cives,

preastiam = praestigiam

Vale,

M.I. Scaeva

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete cives,
>
> Cato preastiam permanet facere video. Hic talis fatuitatem est. Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.
>
> Nimium malum.
>
> Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.
>
> Cum eo, situs modo evenit.
>
> Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.
>
> Hic locus sensim peribunt.
>
> Cogitate cives!
>
> Valete
>
> M. I. Scaeva
>

In a message dated 6/3/2010 11:22:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rory12001@... writes:

G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point.
Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day
moderation without prior private warning.

Constitution II.B.4
The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right
to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such
communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State,
except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.

Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated
in the interests of maintaining order and civility;





Several questions spring to mind here.

I. Has Equitius Cato demonstrated any inclination to replace our current
religion with his?

II. Was he uncivil? Did a riot break out upon his posting?

III. Is this because he quoted from the bible? What if he quoted
Emerson's Concord Hymm instead, that refers to God as well?

Where is your burden of proof here? The Constitution of Nova Roma
guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of a religion. In any Nova Roma
Fora. This is to keep petty dictators from throwing their weight around in
the name of the Constitution.

So unless his speech honoring those who fell in battle on last Memorial Day
caused a riot, or forced all pagan here to convert to Christianity, I'd
say you over reacted, and your edict should be withdrawn.

After all it is the right thing to do.

Q. Fabius Maximus



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Marce Iuli,

Your post was quite a challenge but I did finally figure out the that you meant praestigiam:)

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete cives,
>
> preastiam = praestigiam
>
> Vale,
>
> M.I. Scaeva
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete cives,
> >
> > Cato preastiam permanet facere video. Hic talis fatuitatem est. Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.
> >
> > Nimium malum.
> >
> > Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.
> >
> > Cum eo, situs modo evenit.
> >
> > Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.
> >
> > Hic locus sensim peribunt.
> >
> > Cogitate cives!
> >
> > Valete
> >
> > M. I. Scaeva
> >
>

Salve,

Welcome! I rarley respond in our group since I signed up in December 2009, but I have enjoyed every daily post I have gained. You can learn much about Latin, and anything Roman! I myself have graduated from IUPUI in Public Management with a minor in History. I love all things Rome, and have found many peers in this group, so if you are the same as I, I think you will be satisfied in your decision to join.

Have you applied for citizenship with Nova Roma, or just signed up for this group? I have, but am waiting to clear up a situation with my surname before I can take my citizenship test.

Either way, welcome to the group!

Vale,

Gaius Antonius Flavus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> <<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>  
> I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
>  
> Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
>  
>  
> Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
>  
> Welcome to Nova Roma!
> There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/%c2%a0If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
> Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29%c2%a0 Scroll down to the map and see what province you live in.
> If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in learning more about it, this list that might interest you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
> And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
> There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our website.
> Again, welcome!
>  
> Vale bene,
>  
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve Juilae,

Sententiam mea constas credo.

Vale,

M. I. Scaeva

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Marce Iuli,
>
> Your post was quite a challenge but I did finally figure out the that you meant praestigiam:)
>
> Vale optime,
>
> Julia
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete cives,
> >
> > preastiam = praestigiam
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > M.I. Scaeva
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Salvete cives,
> > >
> > > Cato preastiam permanet facere video. Hic talis fatuitatem est. Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.
> > >
> > > Nimium malum.
> > >
> > > Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.
> > >
> > > Cum eo, situs modo evenit.
> > >
> > > Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.
> > >
> > > Hic locus sensim peribunt.
> > >
> > > Cogitate cives!
> > >
> > > Valete
> > >
> > > M. I. Scaeva
> > >
> >
>

Salve Q. Fabio Maximo,

Cato omnis opportunitas mentiri capessit.

Meret omne adquirit.

Vale,

M.I.Scaeva

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2010 11:22:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> rory12001@... writes:
>
> G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point.
> Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day
> moderation without prior private warning.
>
> Constitution II.B.4
> The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right
> to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such
> communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State,
> except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
>
> Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated
> in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
>
>
>
>
>
> Several questions spring to mind here.
>
> I. Has Equitius Cato demonstrated any inclination to replace our current
> religion with his?
>
> II. Was he uncivil? Did a riot break out upon his posting?
>
> III. Is this because he quoted from the bible? What if he quoted
> Emerson's Concord Hymm instead, that refers to God as well?
>
> Where is your burden of proof here? The Constitution of Nova Roma
> guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of a religion. In any Nova Roma
> Fora. This is to keep petty dictators from throwing their weight around in
> the name of the Constitution.
>
> So unless his speech honoring those who fell in battle on last Memorial Day
> caused a riot, or forced all pagan here to convert to Christianity, I'd
> say you over reacted, and your edict should be withdrawn.
>
> After all it is the right thing to do.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve,

As you are, I am also interested in Latin and Rome history and mythology. I am working as a senior automotive engineer in Robert Bosch India. I too read daily mails and enjoy them.

I have recently joined this group. I don’t know how to apply for citizenship. What is citizenship test meant for? I am interested, can anybody suggest me?

Vale,
Thanks in advance,
Nagaraj HM
________________________________
From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Friday, 4. June 2010 8:16 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Hello all



Salve,

Welcome! I rarley respond in our group since I signed up in December 2009, but I have enjoyed every daily post I have gained. You can learn much about Latin, and anything Roman! I myself have graduated from IUPUI in Public Management with a minor in History. I love all things Rome, and have found many peers in this group, so if you are the same as I, I think you will be satisfied in your decision to join.

Have you applied for citizenship with Nova Roma, or just signed up for this group? I have, but am waiting to clear up a situation with my surname before I can take my citizenship test.

Either way, welcome to the group!

Vale,

Gaius Antonius Flavus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> <<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
>
> Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
>
>
> Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
>
> Welcome to Nova Roma!
> There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/ If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
> Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29 Scroll down to the map and see what province you live in.
> If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in learning more about it, this list that might interest you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
> And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
> There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our website.
> Again, welcome!
>
> Vale bene,
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Scaeva,

Male intellego quae scripserit.

> Cato preastiam permanet facere video.

Quid vis dicere? Etiamsi "praestiam" est "prestigiam", sententia tua intellegi non potest.

> Hic talis fatuitatem est.

Et etiam non intelligo quid scribas. Fortasse "Haec talis fatuitas est". Fortasse "Hujus talis fatuitas est".

> Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.
> Nimium malum.
> Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.
> Cum eo, situs modo evenit.

Non intelligo quid, sententia tua, forum futurum sit sine Catone vel cum Catone...

> Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.
> Hic locus sensim peribunt.

Fortasse "peribit" vel "Hunc locum sensim interficient."

Salve.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
A. d. Pridie Nonas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

Salve Gaius Antonius Flavus,
 
My name is Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll). I joined this group and join the NewRoman Yahoo group on the yahoo group, and i got the info to do the newroman test, but i had to work on my Roman vegges garden, but in Sunday, I'll do the test and I emailed others in California and she emailed the female governor in my state of Washington, now i have to wait for the reply from the female governor. OK.
 
I got lots of ancient books on: ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome and it's ancient empire. I have statues, recipe books, PC games and few others. What is your Roman interests,
Gaius Antonius Flavus?? So where r u from in this roman empire in USA? I'm in Bellingham, WA. So see u soon. Bye.
 
Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Stephen <gaiusantoniusflavius@...> wrote:


From: Stephen <gaiusantoniusflavius@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Hello all
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 7:46 PM


 



Salve,

Welcome! I rarley respond in our group since I signed up in December 2009, but I have enjoyed every daily post I have gained. You can learn much about Latin, and anything Roman! I myself have graduated from IUPUI in Public Management with a minor in History. I love all things Rome, and have found many peers in this group, so if you are the same as I, I think you will be satisfied in your decision to join.

Have you applied for citizenship with Nova Roma, or just signed up for this group? I have, but am waiting to clear up a situation with my surname before I can take my citizenship test.

Either way, welcome to the group!

Vale,

Gaius Antonius Flavus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> <<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>  
> I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
>  
> Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
>  
>  
> Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
>  
> Welcome to Nova Roma!
> There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/%c2%a0If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
> Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29%c2%a0 Scroll down to the map and see what province you live in.
> If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in learning more about it, this list that might interest you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
> And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
> There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our website.
> Again, welcome!
>  
> Vale bene,
>  
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Scaevo;
et Iste de stercore egreditur ut philosophiam evomat. Merhercle!

> Cato omnis opportunitas mentiri capessit.
>
> Meret omne adquirit.
>
> Vale,
>
> M.I.Scaeva
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/3/2010 11:22:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > rory12001@ writes:
> >
> > G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point.
> > Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day
> > moderation without prior private warning.
> >
> > Constitution II.B.4
> > The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right
> > to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such
> > communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State,
> > except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
> >
> > Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated
> > in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Several questions spring to mind here.
> >
> > I. Has Equitius Cato demonstrated any inclination to replace our current
> > religion with his?
> >
> > II. Was he uncivil? Did a riot break out upon his posting?
> >
> > III. Is this because he quoted from the bible? What if he quoted
> > Emerson's Concord Hymm instead, that refers to God as well?
> >
> > Where is your burden of proof here? The Constitution of Nova Roma
> > guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of a religion. In any Nova Roma
> > Fora. This is to keep petty dictators from throwing their weight around in
> > the name of the Constitution.
> >
> > So unless his speech honoring those who fell in battle on last Memorial Day
> > caused a riot, or forced all pagan here to convert to Christianity, I'd
> > say you over reacted, and your edict should be withdrawn.
> >
> > After all it is the right thing to do.
> >
> > Q. Fabius Maximus
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Salve, Laenas
 
Let me reassure you and all citizens that I am looking into this matter. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
 
Vale,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
Tribuna Plebis
 
 
 

<<--- On Thu, 6/3/10, gaiuspopilliuslaenas <gaiuspopillius@...> wrote:

Salvete Omnes et salvete Tribunes et salvete Consuls,

This moderation is clearly against the letter and spirit of the Constitution section cited. The part about "may be reasonably expected..." is NOT part of the Constitution.

I call upon the Tribunes and Consuls to veto this act.

Valete,

C. Popillius laenas>>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve C. Petronio Dextro,

Lingua Latina praeceptum gratulor!

Vale,

M.I. Scaeva

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Scaeva,
>
> Male intellego quae scripserit.
>
> > Cato preastiam permanet facere video.
>
> Quid vis dicere? Etiamsi "praestiam" est "prestigiam", sententia tua intellegi non potest.
>
> > Hic talis fatuitatem est.
>
> Et etiam non intelligo quid scribas. Fortasse "Haec talis fatuitas est". Fortasse "Hujus talis fatuitas est".
>
> > Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.
> > Nimium malum.
> > Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.
> > Cum eo, situs modo evenit.
>
> Non intelligo quid, sententia tua, forum futurum sit sine Catone vel cum Catone...
>
> > Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.
> > Hic locus sensim peribunt.
>
> Fortasse "peribit" vel "Hunc locum sensim interficient."
>
> Salve.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> A. d. Pridie Nonas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>

Salve,

Cato meum semper vomitionis facit.

Vale,

M.I.Scaeva

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salve Scaevo;
> et Iste de stercore egreditur ut philosophiam evomat. Merhercle!
>
>
>
> > Cato omnis opportunitas mentiri capessit.
> >
> > Meret omne adquirit.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > M.I.Scaeva
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/3/2010 11:22:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > rory12001@ writes:
> > >
> > > G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point.
> > > Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day
> > > moderation without prior private warning.
> > >
> > > Constitution II.B.4
> > > The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right
> > > to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such
> > > communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State,
> > > except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
> > >
> > > Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated
> > > in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Several questions spring to mind here.
> > >
> > > I. Has Equitius Cato demonstrated any inclination to replace our current
> > > religion with his?
> > >
> > > II. Was he uncivil? Did a riot break out upon his posting?
> > >
> > > III. Is this because he quoted from the bible? What if he quoted
> > > Emerson's Concord Hymm instead, that refers to God as well?
> > >
> > > Where is your burden of proof here? The Constitution of Nova Roma
> > > guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of a religion. In any Nova Roma
> > > Fora. This is to keep petty dictators from throwing their weight around in
> > > the name of the Constitution.
> > >
> > > So unless his speech honoring those who fell in battle on last Memorial Day
> > > caused a riot, or forced all pagan here to convert to Christianity, I'd
> > > say you over reacted, and your edict should be withdrawn.
> > >
> > > After all it is the right thing to do.
> > >
> > > Q. Fabius Maximus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Aeternia Maximae sal,


Tribuna, thank you for attention in this matter, for it is truly
appreciated.


Vale Optime,
Aeternia

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Maxima Valeria Messallina <
maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salve, Laenas
>
> Let me reassure you and all citizens that I am looking into this matter.
> Thank you for your patience and understanding.
>
> Vale,
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
> Tribuna Plebis
>
>
>
>
>
> <<--- On Thu, 6/3/10, gaiuspopilliuslaenas <gaiuspopillius@...<gaiuspopillius%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Salvete Omnes et salvete Tribunes et salvete Consuls,
>
> This moderation is clearly against the letter and spirit of the
> Constitution section cited. The part about "may be reasonably expected..."
> is NOT part of the Constitution.
>
> I call upon the Tribunes and Consuls to veto this act.
>
> Valete,
>
> C. Popillius laenas>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Regi Serpentium quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae
> voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> Namaste! I have translated your name from one or another variation on
> Sanskrit / Hindi, etc., in order to make it grammatically capable of accepting
> Latin greetings. Normally we do not translate names...but I¹d have to fish
> out my Sanskrit grammar in order to leave it as is and still manage the
> correct case. It¹s been too long...
>
> Regarding citizenship, there is an application on the Nova Roma website.
> The citizenship test checks knowledge of ancient Rome and of Nova Roma so that
> we can ensure some very basic level of understanding before we accept someone
> as a full citizen with the right to vote and ultimately hold office.
> Prospective citizens have a probationary period of three months during which
> they cannot vote; at some time during the probationary period, known in Latin
> as the tirocinium, the tiro, or prospective citizen, must take and pass a
> simple test on the matters mentioned above. All answers may be found on the
> website.
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
> Salve,
>
> As you are, I am also interested in Latin and Rome history and mythology. I
> am working as a senior automotive engineer in Robert Bosch India. I too read
> daily mails and enjoy them.
>
> I have recently joined this group. I don¹t know how to apply for citizenship.
> What is citizenship test meant for? I am interested, can anybody suggest me?
>
> Vale,
> Thanks in advance,
> Nagaraj HM
> ________________________________
> From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of Stephen
> Sent: Friday, 4. June 2010 8:16 AM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Hello all
>
>
>
> Salve,
>
> Welcome! I rarley respond in our group since I signed up in December 2009, but
> I have enjoyed every daily post I have gained. You can learn much about Latin,
> and anything Roman! I myself have graduated from IUPUI in Public Management
> with a minor in History. I love all things Rome, and have found many peers in
> this group, so if you are the same as I, I think you will be satisfied in your
> decision to join.
>
> Have you applied for citizenship with Nova Roma, or just signed up for this
> group? I have, but am waiting to clear up a situation with my surname before I
> can take my citizenship test.
>
> Either way, welcome to the group!
>
> Vale,
>
> Gaius Antonius Flavus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Maxima Valeria Messallina
> <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > <<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the
>> roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
>> >
>> > Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
>> >
>> > Welcome to Nova Roma!
>> > There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can
>> find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/ If you have any
>> questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
>> > Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with
>> citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your
>> province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29 Scroll
>> down to the map and see what province you live in.
>> > If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in
>> learning more about it, this list that might interest you:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
>> > And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic
>> leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
>> > There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our
>> website.
>> > Again, welcome!
>> >
>> > Vale bene,
>> >
>> > Maxima Valeria Messallina
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve CPD,

Iste cunctus scio.

;0)

MIS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Scaeva,
>
> Male intellego quae scripserit.
>
> > Cato preastiam permanet facere video.
>
> Quid vis dicere? Etiamsi "praestiam" est "prestigiam", sententia tua intellegi non potest.
>
> > Hic talis fatuitatem est.
>
> Et etiam non intelligo quid scribas. Fortasse "Haec talis fatuitas est". Fortasse "Hujus talis fatuitas est".
>
> > Is amicam conlocutionem usque ruit.
> > Nimium malum.
> > Hic locus magnum forum sententiae sine eo futurus esse.
> > Cum eo, situs modo evenit.
>
> Non intelligo quid, sententia tua, forum futurum sit sine Catone vel cum Catone...
>
> > Isti civium scientiam desiderant, idem alibi comperient, ceu facio.
> > Hic locus sensim peribunt.
>
> Fortasse "peribit" vel "Hunc locum sensim interficient."
>
> Salve.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> A. d. Pridie Nonas Iunias P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>

Salve,
I joined this roman ways in this good yahoo club, and If u wanted to be a roman member, u have to join and do the test, so here r info for u:
 
There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/ If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.

Plz check this out, Nagaraj HM. it will help u out. Ok. Bye.
 
Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Nagaraj H M (RBEI/EDT3) <Nagaraj.Hm@...> wrote:


From: Nagaraj H M (RBEI/EDT3) <Nagaraj.Hm@...>
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Hello all
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 9:07 PM


 



Salve,

As you are, I am also interested in Latin and Rome history and mythology. I am working as a senior automotive engineer in Robert Bosch India. I too read daily mails and enjoy them.

I have recently joined this group. I don’t know how to apply for citizenship. What is citizenship test meant for? I am interested, can anybody suggest me?

Vale,
Thanks in advance,
Nagaraj HM
________________________________
From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Friday, 4. June 2010 8:16 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Hello all



Salve,

Welcome! I rarley respond in our group since I signed up in December 2009, but I have enjoyed every daily post I have gained. You can learn much about Latin, and anything Roman! I myself have graduated from IUPUI in Public Management with a minor in History. I love all things Rome, and have found many peers in this group, so if you are the same as I, I think you will be satisfied in your decision to join.

Have you applied for citizenship with Nova Roma, or just signed up for this group? I have, but am waiting to clear up a situation with my surname before I can take my citizenship test.

Either way, welcome to the group!

Vale,

Gaius Antonius Flavus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> <<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
>
> Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
>
>
> Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
>
> Welcome to Nova Roma!
> There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/ If you have any questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
> Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29 Scroll down to the map and see what province you live in.
> If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in learning more about it, this list that might interest you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
> And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
> There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our website.
> Again, welcome!
>
> Vale bene,
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

De isto. nec sapienta nec misericordia ei sunt. Clamores fanatici Bellonae magis deleniunt.
latine mihi placet scribere!
maximas gratias
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@...> wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> Cato meum semper vomitionis facit.
>
> Vale,
>
> M.I.Scaeva
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Salve Scaevo;
> > et Iste de stercore egreditur ut philosophiam evomat. Merhercle!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Cato omnis opportunitas mentiri capessit.
> > >
> > > Meret omne adquirit.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > M.I.Scaeva
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 6/3/2010 11:22:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > rory12001@ writes:
> > > >
> > > > G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point.
> > > > Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day
> > > > moderation without prior private warning.
> > > >
> > > > Constitution II.B.4
> > > > The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right
> > > > to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such
> > > > communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State,
> > > > except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
> > > >
> > > > Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated
> > > > in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Several questions spring to mind here.
> > > >
> > > > I. Has Equitius Cato demonstrated any inclination to replace our current
> > > > religion with his?
> > > >
> > > > II. Was he uncivil? Did a riot break out upon his posting?
> > > >
> > > > III. Is this because he quoted from the bible? What if he quoted
> > > > Emerson's Concord Hymm instead, that refers to God as well?
> > > >
> > > > Where is your burden of proof here? The Constitution of Nova Roma
> > > > guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of a religion. In any Nova Roma
> > > > Fora. This is to keep petty dictators from throwing their weight around in
> > > > the name of the Constitution.
> > > >
> > > > So unless his speech honoring those who fell in battle on last Memorial Day
> > > > caused a riot, or forced all pagan here to convert to Christianity, I'd
> > > > say you over reacted, and your edict should be withdrawn.
> > > >
> > > > After all it is the right thing to do.
> > > >
> > > > Q. Fabius Maximus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Salvete;
could it be Nagarajus, I must say I remember very well the time I spent in the censorial cohors with our onomastic reform to make it truly Roman. happy days,
now you know what we Nova Romans are like:)
optime vale
M. Hortensia Maior

> >
> > Namaste! I have translated your name from one or another variation on
> > Sanskrit / Hindi, etc., in order to make it grammatically capable of accepting
> > Latin greetings. Normally we do not translate names...but I¹d have to fish
> > out my Sanskrit grammar in order to leave it as is and still manage the
> > correct case. It¹s been too long...
> >
> > Regarding citizenship, there is an application on the Nova Roma website.
> > The citizenship test checks knowledge of ancient Rome and of Nova Roma so that
> > we can ensure some very basic level of understanding before we accept someone
> > as a full citizen with the right to vote and ultimately hold office.
> > Prospective citizens have a probationary period of three months during which
> > they cannot vote; at some time during the probationary period, known in Latin
> > as the tirocinium, the tiro, or prospective citizen, must take and pass a
> > simple test on the matters mentioned above. All answers may be found on the
> > website.
> >
> > Vale, et valete.
> >
> >
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > As you are, I am also interested in Latin and Rome history and mythology. I
> > am working as a senior automotive engineer in Robert Bosch India. I too read
> > daily mails and enjoy them.
> >
> > I have recently joined this group. I don¹t know how to apply for citizenship.
> > What is citizenship test meant for? I am interested, can anybody suggest me?
> >
> > Vale,
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Nagaraj HM
> > ________________________________
> > From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of Stephen
> > Sent: Friday, 4. June 2010 8:16 AM
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Hello all
> >
> >
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > Welcome! I rarley respond in our group since I signed up in December 2009, but
> > I have enjoyed every daily post I have gained. You can learn much about Latin,
> > and anything Roman! I myself have graduated from IUPUI in Public Management
> > with a minor in History. I love all things Rome, and have found many peers in
> > this group, so if you are the same as I, I think you will be satisfied in your
> > decision to join.
> >
> > Have you applied for citizenship with Nova Roma, or just signed up for this
> > group? I have, but am waiting to clear up a situation with my surname before I
> > can take my citizenship test.
> >
> > Either way, welcome to the group!
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Gaius Antonius Flavus
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Maxima Valeria Messallina
> > <maximavaleriamessallina@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <<--- On Mon, 5/31/10, myles kroll <kingofoceanna@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I'm new to this group and i do love ancient times included Rome and the
> >> roman empire, and plz accept me in your roman company. OK. bye.
> >> >
> >> > Milieus Maximus Capricornius (Myles Kroll)>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Salve, M. Maximus Capricornius
> >> >
> >> > Welcome to Nova Roma!
> >> > There is a group for new Nova Romans called aptly, New Roman, and you can
> >> find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newroman/ If you have any
> >> questions about Nova Roma, that's the place to ask.
> >> > Most provinces also have their own lists where you can communicate with
> >> citizens and prospective citizens who may live near you. You can find your
> >> province here: http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_%28Nova_Roma%29 Scroll
> >> down to the map and see what province you live in.
> >> > If you are a practitioner of the Religio Romana, or just interested in
> >> learning more about it, this list that might interest you:
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligioRomana/?yguid=412484620
> >> > And if you are partial to the call of the Muses and have an artistic
> >> leaning, there is this group you might want to have a look at:
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ForTheMuses/
> >> > There are many facets to Nova Roma. Have fun exploring them all at our
> >> website.
> >> > Again, welcome!
> >> >
> >> > Vale bene,
> >> >
> >> > Maxima Valeria Messallina
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve,

Tua natura miro. Quae ludo?

Stultus non meus.

Vale,

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> De isto. nec sapienta nec misericordia ei sunt. Clamores fanatici Bellonae magis deleniunt.
> latine mihi placet scribere!
> maximas gratias
> Maior
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "John Citron" <johnnormancitron@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve,
> >
> > Cato meum semper vomitionis facit.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > M.I.Scaeva
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve Scaevo;
> > > et Iste de stercore egreditur ut philosophiam evomat. Merhercle!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cato omnis opportunitas mentiri capessit.
> > > >
> > > > Meret omne adquirit.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > M.I.Scaeva
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 6/3/2010 11:22:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > > rory12001@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > G. Equitius Cato is placed on 90 day moderation at this point.
> > > > > Furthermore, anyone who forwards his posts to the main list will be placed on 30 day
> > > > > moderation without prior private warning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Constitution II.B.4
> > > > > The right to participate in all public fora and discussions, and the right
> > > > > to reasonably expect such fora to be supported by the State. Such
> > > > > communications, regardless of their content, may not be restricted by the State,
> > > > > except where they represent an imminent and clear danger to the Republic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Such officially sponsored fora may be expected to be reasonably moderated
> > > > > in the interests of maintaining order and civility;
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Several questions spring to mind here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I. Has Equitius Cato demonstrated any inclination to replace our current
> > > > > religion with his?
> > > > >
> > > > > II. Was he uncivil? Did a riot break out upon his posting?
> > > > >
> > > > > III. Is this because he quoted from the bible? What if he quoted
> > > > > Emerson's Concord Hymm instead, that refers to God as well?
> > > > >
> > > > > Where is your burden of proof here? The Constitution of Nova Roma
> > > > > guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of a religion. In any Nova Roma
> > > > > Fora. This is to keep petty dictators from throwing their weight around in
> > > > > the name of the Constitution.
> > > > >
> > > > > So unless his speech honoring those who fell in battle on last Memorial Day
> > > > > caused a riot, or forced all pagan here to convert to Christianity, I'd
> > > > > say you over reacted, and your edict should be withdrawn.
> > > > >
> > > > > After all it is the right thing to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q. Fabius Maximus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>