Salve

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with a little fighting as long as there are no personal attacks then it is a debate. However some people can not have a debate without turning it into a 'flame war' which turns people off to the ML. Politics and 'Debate' go hand in hand and it is difficult to separate the two because of conflicting ideals.

Sometimes there is far too much drama though and it usually causes me to ignore most of the messages on ML unless it is a topic I am interested in, even then I usually remain silent and go through the proper channels to get my point across.

There's an idea, maybe we need a politics/debate group for just that sort of thing. This way the ML isn't spammed and we do not have so much drama out in the open so to speak.

Bene vale

Ti. Ovidius Aquila

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Octavia" <roman.babe@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete all,
>
> It's pretty much a given that there is a lot and I mean a lot of infighting
> on this list. And for years I've thought the same thing: We have too many NR
> lists. We have lists where one can specifically discuss Roman military,
> food, law, books, religion, latin, etc. There is rarely any fighting on the
> sub-lists. In the end the only subject left over for this list is politics
> and in-fighting.
> Valete Diana
>

>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Petronio Dextro M. Hortensiae Majori quiritibus,
> sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis, praesertim fautoribus linguae Latinae,
> S.P.D.
>
>
> C. Petronius Hortensiae Maiori s.p.d.,
>
>> > et eius oblita sum; ecce website; hem, quo modo in latine 'website'
>> dicitur?
>
> Dicam "telae situs" but perhaps another word was yet found by some neo
> latinist...
>
> ATS: Situs interretialis sat saepe adhibetur.
>
> Qua de causa hanc pelliculam appellant Choice of Paris? Semper diximus
> Judgment of Paris...
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> A. d. XVII Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
> Vale, et valete.

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M. Moravius Piscinus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Diis bene iuvantibus simus

Hodie est ante diem XVII Kalendas Quinctilias; haec dies nefastus est: Vesta Clauditur: Quando Stercus Delatum Fas.

"The day that is called Quando Stercus Delatum Fas, is named so from this, that on this day the refuse is swept from the Temple of Vesta and is carried away along the Capitolinus Clivus to a certain place." ~ M. Terrentius Varro, Lingua Latinae 6.32

The tempus nefastus associated with the Vestalia ends with the final act of purification of the temple. That is, today is not wholly nefastus. Only the morning is nefastus, until the stercus is disposed in proper fashion. The term "stercus," found in the fasti and with Varro above, is found elsewhere as a generic term for dung. Varro used the term in his account of farming, De re rustica, where it is distinguished from "fimus bubulus," the latter referring specifically to cow or ox dung. In Cato's De Agricultura, stercus is combined with caprinum (goat's), columbinum (dove's), ouillum (sheep's), suillum (pig's), and ceterum (other). Thereby is stercus qualified when it refers to a specific source. "Fimus bubulus," on the other hand, is used instead by Cato when it is a technical term to designate cow manure, and "fimus summas arbores" is found to indicate compost from decomposing leaves. "Stercus" is also used for human excrement by Celsus and Lucilius. As a general term then stercus can refer to the excrement of humans or of any animal.

This has caused some interest, and speculation, on what was the source of the stercus inside Vesta's temple. Sacrificial animals had been proposed, but this makes little sense since it was specifically the inside of the temple that is indicated and immolationes were not performed inside the aedes. It is possible that the Vestales were themselves the source. Another possible source may have been birds. Whatever the source, the lesson here is that anything that falls upon the sacred ground of a templum becomes itself dedicated to the God or Goddess for whom the templum was dedicated. Even stercus cannot be removed from the grounds without proper ritual. This is what the annotation Q. S. D. F. means, that on this day alone it is proper and right, in accordance with religious law (fas) to remove the temple refuse. And we must assume that this was done in some significant manner.

Varro states that the stercus was removed to some place reached by the Capitolinus Clivus. This could indicate that the refuse was buried on the Capitoline Hill. Favisse have been found on the Capitoline Hill that contains temple refuse. That is, broken or discarded implements, statuary, or structural elements from temples, but not what would be described as stercus. Ovid instead says that the stercus was taken away by the River Tiber. On certain occasions, following the sack of Rome by the Gauls or after the Great Fire in the reign of Nero, special dispensation was given to remove temple debris and have it carried away by the River Tiber. In the one case, the debris was so great following the Gallic sack that it formed the Tiber Isle on which were later built temples for Aesculapius and Vediovis. Whether buried somewhere or placed in the Tiber, today's rite would seem to recall a special occasion, possibly following the destruction of the Temple of Vesta by fire. If that is the case then today's rite possibly dealt with a propitiation for such neglect, and also it was performed in order to prevent a future destruction.


Roman Social Customs

"Why do sons cover their heads when they escort their parents to the grave, while daughters go with uncovered heads and hair unbound? Is it because fathers should be honored as Gods by their male offspring, but mourned as dead by their daughters, that custom has assigned to each sex its proper part and has produced a fitting result from both? Or is it that the unusual is proper in mourning, and it is more usual for women to go forth in public with their heads covered and men with their heads uncovered? So in Greece, whenever any misfortune comes, the women cut off their hair and the men let it grow, for it is usual for men to have their hair cut and for women to let it grow. Or is it that it has become customary for sons to cover their heads for the reason already given? For they turn about at the graves, as Varro relates, thus honoring the tombs of their fathers even as they do the shrines of the Gods; and when they have cremated their parents, they declare that the dead person has become a God at the moment when first they find a bone. But formerly women were not allowed to cover the head at all. At least it is recorded that Spurius Carvilius was the first man to divorce his wife and the reason was her barrenness; the second was Sulpicius Gallus, because he saw his wife pull her cloak over her head; and the third was Publius Sempronius, because his wife had been present as a spectator at funeral games." ~ Plutarch, Roman Questions 14


Our thought for today is from the Golden Sayings of Pythagoras 17-19:

"Concerning all the calamities that men suffer by divine fortune, support with patience thy lot, be it what it may, and never repine at it, but endeavor what thou canst to remedy it."

Salve Cicero

Careful there, for if that is the standard you would use then quite a few of the Back Alley Boys would have been tossed from the Tarpeian Heights. What you defend is to allow a mob atmosphere. There was a way to deal with that in Roma antiqua. The praetors and consuls had lictores to crack the heads of such BAB's. Insulting Vestals would be seen as an offense against the Gods and brought an immediate reaction from the crowds, not to mention from the lictores who escorted Vestales. Not to mention, too, that mocking the Gods as Sulla did would be regarded as an attack against Rome itself. And his recent problems would surely have been seen as divine retribution for his crimes, and thus cause for his exile or death. And if you want to use ancient example as your standard, then Cato should be put to death as an atheist who offends the Gods.

Nova Roma has real problems to deal with. Our financial situation is not stable and we now need to find someone qualified to serve as CFO, as we cannot afford to hire CPA for the position. Our website is out of date and needs upgrading, which will cost us. We have legal matters to deal with in regard to our by-laws, and this too could involve some expense to correct. But instead of dealing with such important issues we are continually having to deal with childish personalities who wish only to make themselves an issue. This Forum that once was used to share information about ancient Rome now revolves around a couple of trolls, the very kind of people that we gave our praetores authority to moderate and ban.

This is our community. By that I mean all the subscribers to this list form a community. We made this list a moderated list and the community must determine what it wants to limit. Do we want Nova Roma's ML to become another Back Alley as the BAB's pose to do? If the praetors are not allowed to moderate as they see best, then perhaps we should turn the question to the community. Should Cato be moderated for irritating people by his posts? Then take a poll of the community. Let us see how many find his posts offensive. Should Maior be moderated? Should Sulla or anyone else be moderated? Then maybe we should use to polling feature to see how the community really feels about such trivial matters so that we can move on to more important things.

Vale
M. Moravius Piscinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lucius_cornelius_cicero" <Cicero@...> wrote:
>
> A female praetor wouldn't be very Roman though. But then we just mix and match as it suits us, don't we :)
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Livia;
> > it's the same old story with the same cast of characters. A small group holds the ML hostage. If you disagree with them like you or Dexter they gang up with their friends.
> >
> > Does this improve our knowledge of Ancient Rome? it's culture, laws customs, religion, language?
> >
> > No, it's just puerile time-wasting arguing, where nothing of value gets accomplished and citizens are driven away or leave out of disgust.
> >
> > As Lentulus pointed out the ML needs strong moderation; and it's very Roman indeed.
> > optime vale
> > Maior
> >
> >
> > -
> > >
> > > Salve Cato,
> > > no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you think
> > > that repeating a lie will make it true.
> > > You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
> > > silencing.
> > > Let's repeat it once again:
> > > MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
> > > POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
> > >
> > > As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
> > > don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly spam.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > > Livia
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@>
> > > To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:27 PM
> > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cato Agricolae sal.
> > >
> > > And just to be absolutely clear, Agricola, you understand that the praetors
> > > were found to have been abusing - repeatedly and without any sense of
> > > remorse - their power on this List. Maior was not a victim, but the
> > > perpetrator of blatant and direct abuse of the power of which you speak.
> > >
> > > Maior attempted over and over again to silence a citizen simply because she
> > > has a personal vendetta against them, NOT based on our law. She abused her
> > > office, used her imperium in an attempt to stifle anything with which she
> > > disagreed.
> > >
> > > Both consular imperium and the authority of the tribunes were used to stop
> > > her attempts to disgrace her office and continue her violations of our law.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Cato
> > >
> >
>

Yes, exactly like that. In spite of all the noise, no evidence was ever produced and no charges were ever brought. So yes, like that, trial by mudslinging.

MLA

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Agricolae sal.
>
> Like the "proper, formal scrutiny" that was undertaken regarding Complutensis and the sock-puppet issue?
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcus.lucretius" <marcus.lucretius@> wrote:
> >
> > Agricola Metello sal.
> [SNIP'
>
> > Finally, I can see where certain critics want to keep this forum wide open, so they can continue to abuse it as a platform from which to repeat allegations that would never stand up to proper, formal scrutiny.
> >
> > vale
>

Hey, I never mentioned Maior, so why do you bring her into it? Can't miss a chance to sling mud? I was stating my opinion and I never mentioned recent events. Why not pay attention to what I wrote and stick to that? And keep the condescension to yourself, fella, and your straw man arguments. Or does freedom to express an opinion not include people who disagree with you?

This is exactly the way that the potential of this list is wasted. Don't respond to ideas, just slide around the issue, take a few shots and pretend it is "debate". My position is clear, and seeing nothing useful in reply, for the good of the republic I bow out of this.

MLA

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Agricolae sal.
>
> And just to be absolutely clear, Agricola, you understand that the praetors were found to have been abusing - repeatedly and without any sense of remorse - their power on this List.

That is called IMPERIUM. It is a Roman thing. I ignore your amazing ability to read minds and interpret them for us.

> Maior was not a victim, but the perpetrator of blatant and direct abuse of the power of which you speak.
>
> Maior attempted over and over again to silence a citizen simply because she has a personal vendetta against them, NOT based on our law. She abused her office, used her imperium in an attempt to stifle anything with which she disagreed.

"Simply because"... right, the mind reading thing again, and not understanding imperium. Hey, this wouldn't be because you lost to her by a 2 to 1 margin in the last election, would it? No, it would be wrong for me to ascribe motives like that.


>
> Both consular imperium and the authority of the tribunes were used to stop her attempts to disgrace her office and continue her violations of our law.

That is how the system works. It is amazing that you seem to be surprised by this. Quit the posturing.


>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>

Of course in Roma Antiqua you wouldn't be PM, because your religion hadn't been invented yet.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Cicero
>
> Careful there, for if that is the standard you would use then quite a few of the Back Alley Boys would have been tossed from the Tarpeian Heights. What you defend is to allow a mob atmosphere. There was a way to deal with that in Roma antiqua. The praetors and consuls had lictores to crack the heads of such BAB's. Insulting Vestals would be seen as an offense against the Gods and brought an immediate reaction from the crowds, not to mention from the lictores who escorted Vestales. Not to mention, too, that mocking the Gods as Sulla did would be regarded as an attack against Rome itself. And his recent problems would surely have been seen as divine retribution for his crimes, and thus cause for his exile or death. And if you want to use ancient example as your standard, then Cato should be put to death as an atheist who offends the Gods.
>
> Nova Roma has real problems to deal with. Our financial situation is not stable and we now need to find someone qualified to serve as CFO, as we cannot afford to hire CPA for the position. Our website is out of date and needs upgrading, which will cost us. We have legal matters to deal with in regard to our by-laws, and this too could involve some expense to correct. But instead of dealing with such important issues we are continually having to deal with childish personalities who wish only to make themselves an issue. This Forum that once was used to share information about ancient Rome now revolves around a couple of trolls, the very kind of people that we gave our praetores authority to moderate and ban.
>
> This is our community. By that I mean all the subscribers to this list form a community. We made this list a moderated list and the community must determine what it wants to limit. Do we want Nova Roma's ML to become another Back Alley as the BAB's pose to do? If the praetors are not allowed to moderate as they see best, then perhaps we should turn the question to the community. Should Cato be moderated for irritating people by his posts? Then take a poll of the community. Let us see how many find his posts offensive. Should Maior be moderated? Should Sulla or anyone else be moderated? Then maybe we should use to polling feature to see how the community really feels about such trivial matters so that we can move on to more important things.
>
> Vale
> M. Moravius Piscinus
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lucius_cornelius_cicero" <Cicero@> wrote:
> >
> > A female praetor wouldn't be very Roman though. But then we just mix and match as it suits us, don't we :)
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Salve Livia;
> > > it's the same old story with the same cast of characters. A small group holds the ML hostage. If you disagree with them like you or Dexter they gang up with their friends.
> > >
> > > Does this improve our knowledge of Ancient Rome? it's culture, laws customs, religion, language?
> > >
> > > No, it's just puerile time-wasting arguing, where nothing of value gets accomplished and citizens are driven away or leave out of disgust.
> > >
> > > As Lentulus pointed out the ML needs strong moderation; and it's very Roman indeed.
> > > optime vale
> > > Maior
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > >
> > > > Salve Cato,
> > > > no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you think
> > > > that repeating a lie will make it true.
> > > > You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
> > > > silencing.
> > > > Let's repeat it once again:
> > > > MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
> > > > POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
> > > >
> > > > As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
> > > > don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly spam.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > > Livia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@>
> > > > To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:27 PM
> > > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cato Agricolae sal.
> > > >
> > > > And just to be absolutely clear, Agricola, you understand that the praetors
> > > > were found to have been abusing - repeatedly and without any sense of
> > > > remorse - their power on this List. Maior was not a victim, but the
> > > > perpetrator of blatant and direct abuse of the power of which you speak.
> > > >
> > > > Maior attempted over and over again to silence a citizen simply because she
> > > > has a personal vendetta against them, NOT based on our law. She abused her
> > > > office, used her imperium in an attempt to stifle anything with which she
> > > > disagreed.
> > > >
> > > > Both consular imperium and the authority of the tribunes were used to stop
> > > > her attempts to disgrace her office and continue her violations of our law.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Cato
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Dear citizens

I have just sent notice of my resignation of citizenship to a censor, and am repeating the same here.

Nova Roma is in the grip of a bunch of power hungry fanatics, some of them obviously mentally unstable. They flout Roman tradition when it suits them, while using Roman tradition as a stick to beat others with when it suits them. The Pontifical College is filled with people who are not even cultores.

Instead of trying to build something where it is obviously impossible to do so, I will instead spend my efforts in helping to re-establish the Cultus Deorum elsewhere.

Good luck to those who remain behind.

Bene Valete,

Lucius Cornelius Cicero

Salve Cicero,

I ask you to reconsider. There are many of us here who ARE concerned with
rebuilding Romanitas and the Cultus Deorum, and we need more good people to
help us do it. I agree that there are some power-hungry fanatics in Nova
Roma, and even some in positions of power . . . but that makes it all the
more important that those of us who truly do care stay and do something
about it!

Don't let the wackos drive you away!

Respectfully,
Gaius Tullius Valerianus

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, lucius_cornelius_cicero
<Cicero@...>wrote:

>
>
> Dear citizens
>
> I have just sent notice of my resignation of citizenship to a censor, and
> am repeating the same here.
>
> Nova Roma is in the grip of a bunch of power hungry fanatics, some of them
> obviously mentally unstable. They flout Roman tradition when it suits them,
> while using Roman tradition as a stick to beat others with when it suits
> them. The Pontifical College is filled with people who are not even
> cultores.
>
> Instead of trying to build something where it is obviously impossible to do
> so, I will instead spend my efforts in helping to re-establish the Cultus
> Deorum elsewhere.
>
> Good luck to those who remain behind.
>
> Bene Valete,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Cicero
>
>
>

--
"Qua(e) patres difficillime
adepti sunt nolite
turpiter relinquere" -
Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
(Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)

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http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
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Salve,

say what? I'm not seeing this.

Vale,
Aeternia

P.S. Retract please




On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:52 AM, lucius_cornelius_cicero
<Cicero@...>wrote:

>
>
> Dear citizens
>
> I have just sent notice of my resignation of citizenship to a censor, and
> am repeating the same here.
>
> Nova Roma is in the grip of a bunch of power hungry fanatics, some of them
> obviously mentally unstable. They flout Roman tradition when it suits them,
> while using Roman tradition as a stick to beat others with when it suits
> them. The Pontifical College is filled with people who are not even
> cultores.
>
> Instead of trying to build something where it is obviously impossible to do
> so, I will instead spend my efforts in helping to re-establish the Cultus
> Deorum elsewhere.
>
> Good luck to those who remain behind.
>
> Bene Valete,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Cicero
>
>
>

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What are you implying?

Vale,

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Jun 15, 2010 8:43 AM, "lucius_cornelius_cicero" <Cicero@...> wrote:



Of course in Roma Antiqua you wouldn't be PM, because your religion hadn't
been invented yet.



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Cicero
>
> Ca...



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Figure it out for yourself.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> What are you implying?
>
> Vale,
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Jun 15, 2010 8:43 AM, "lucius_cornelius_cicero" <Cicero@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Of course in Roma Antiqua you wouldn't be PM, because your religion hadn't
> been invented yet.
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Cicero
> >
> > Ca...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ex Officio Tribunae Plebis Maximae Valeriae Messallinae Quiritibus S.P.D.  
 

For the purpose of the election of a new Aedile Plebis, I convene the Comitia Plebis Tributa today, June 15, 2010. The contio will continue until 05:59 hours CET, Rome time (11:59 p.m. EDT) on June 23, 2010.
 
Voting will begin at 06:00 hours CET, Rome time (12:00 a.m. EDT) on June 24, 2010 and end at 06:01 hours CET, Rome time (12:01 a.m. EDT) on June 29, 2010.
 

We have one candidate for the position of Aedile Plebis - Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria.
 
She fulfills all the requirements and I wish to, at this time, give her my support and endorsement - which I would have done even if there were other candidates - as I feel she will carry out the obligations of this position with dignitas and honesty.
 
Please feel free to ask any questions of Enodiaria about her intentions for this office, but only on the Comitia Plebis Tributa list, if you would be so kind. Thank you very much.
 
 
Valete bene in pace Deorum,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
Tribuna Plebis




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Salve,

Oh dear Iulius Severus, did you see the Italians play? What a tough Game to start. I was pleased though to see that they got them under control at last. Definitely they have a good chance and maybe are now a little underestimated by others since every one expected an overwhelming victory. Paraguay has always been known as a tough
team. I bet they do better in the coming fights.
The Germanic fighters though literally slaughtered the Australians in the arena!  I have the feeling though that they where an easy pray. Paraguay as an opponent would not have been so easy for them too.
The next stronger opponent will reveal their real skills in battle!

You have no idea how fiery emotional a Italy-Germany final would be!
But let us see how good the Brazilians are although their enemy today is more like a training dummy today. Wanna see another bloody barbarian sacrifice in the arena?....watch Brazil Korea today!

It started very, very interesting though!

C.AQV.ROTA

--- On Mon, 6/14/10, M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...> wrote:

From: M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The End of the World is near!!!
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:06 PM







 









Salvete omnes,



I hope that the Azzurri will bravely fight to remain World Champions.

Argentina is a team without a real coach.

But right now, besides my heartfelt allegiance to Mexico, I am with Germany. What an overwhelming demonstration of why the Germans are high among the favourites to win the crown!



Valete,

 

M•IVL•SEVERVS



SENATOR

PRO•CONSVL•PROVINCIÆ•MEXICI



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Salve,



Oh dear Iulius Severus, did you see the Italians play? What a tough Game
to start. I was pleased though to see that they got them under control
at last. Definitely they have a good chance and maybe are now a little
underestimated by others since every one expected an overwhelming
victory. Paraguay has always been known as a tough

team. I bet they do better in the coming fights.

The Germanic fighters though literally slaughtered the Australians in
the arena!  I have the feeling though that they where an easy pray.
Paraguay as an opponent would not have been so easy for them too.

The next stronger opponent will reveal their real skills in battle!



You have no idea how fiery emotional a Italy-Germany final would be!

But let us see how good the Brazilians are although their enemy today is
more like a training dummy today. Wanna see another bloody barbarian
sacrifice in the arena?....watch Brazil Korea today!



It started very, very interesting though!



C.AQV.ROTA

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Aqvillivs Rota <c.aqvillivs_rota@...> wrote:

From: Aqvillivs Rota <c.aqvillivs_rota@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The End of the World is near!!!
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 1:42 PM







 









Salve,



Oh dear Iulius Severus, did you see the Italians play? What a tough Game to start. I was pleased though to see that they got them under control at last. Definitely they have a good chance and maybe are now a little underestimated by others since every one expected an overwhelming victory. Paraguay has always been known as a tough

team. I bet they do better in the coming fights.

The Germanic fighters though literally slaughtered the Australians in the arena!  I have the feeling though that they where an easy pray. Paraguay as an opponent would not have been so easy for them too.

The next stronger opponent will reveal their real skills in battle!



You have no idea how fiery emotional a Italy-Germany final would be!

But let us see how good the Brazilians are although their enemy today is more like a training dummy today. Wanna see another bloody barbarian sacrifice in the arena?....watch Brazil Korea today!



It started very, very interesting though!



C.AQV.ROTA



--- On Mon, 6/14/10, M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...> wrote:



From: M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...>

Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The End of the World is near!!!

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:06 PM



 



Salvete omnes,



I hope that the Azzurri will bravely fight to remain World Champions.



Argentina is a team without a real coach.



But right now, besides my heartfelt allegiance to Mexico, I am with Germany. What an overwhelming demonstration of why the Germans are high among the favourites to win the crown!



Valete,



 



M•IVL•SEVERVS



SENATOR



PRO•CONSVL•PROVINCIÆ•MEXICI



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Point taken, Valerianus. I am withdrawing my resignation.

Cicero

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Colin Brodd <magisterbrodd@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Cicero,
>
> I ask you to reconsider. There are many of us here who ARE concerned with
> rebuilding Romanitas and the Cultus Deorum, and we need more good people to
> help us do it. I agree that there are some power-hungry fanatics in Nova
> Roma, and even some in positions of power . . . but that makes it all the
> more important that those of us who truly do care stay and do something
> about it!
>
> Don't let the wackos drive you away!
>
> Respectfully,
> Gaius Tullius Valerianus
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, lucius_cornelius_cicero
> <Cicero@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dear citizens
> >
> > I have just sent notice of my resignation of citizenship to a censor, and
> > am repeating the same here.
> >
> > Nova Roma is in the grip of a bunch of power hungry fanatics, some of them
> > obviously mentally unstable. They flout Roman tradition when it suits them,
> > while using Roman tradition as a stick to beat others with when it suits
> > them. The Pontifical College is filled with people who are not even
> > cultores.
> >
> > Instead of trying to build something where it is obviously impossible to do
> > so, I will instead spend my efforts in helping to re-establish the Cultus
> > Deorum elsewhere.
> >
> > Good luck to those who remain behind.
> >
> > Bene Valete,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Cicero
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Qua(e) patres difficillime
> adepti sunt nolite
> turpiter relinquere" -
> Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
> (Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)
>
> Check out my books on Goodreads: <a href="
> http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
> http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus</a>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve Rotae amice,

I know that the Azzurri usually go from less to best, I am counting with them doing just that this time again.
Oh, I'd love a final between Italians and Germans!

Vale,
 
M•IVL•SEVERVS

SENATOR
PRO•CONSVL•PROVINCIÆ•MEXICI




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Cato Agricolae sal.

Except, of course, that he was allowed to remain in power and do as he wished, so no trial, no repercussions for abusing the trust of the Respublica, nothing.

Except also, of course, that such an enormous amount of evidence was presented making the likelihood that it was him so blatantly obvious that even a child would recognize it.

Nice work.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcus.lucretius" <marcus.lucretius@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, exactly like that. In spite of all the noise, no evidence was ever produced and no charges were ever brought. So yes, like that, trial by mudslinging.
>
> MLA
>

Cato Piscino sal.

You wrote (among a lot of other nonsense):

"Should Cato be moderated for irritating people by his posts? Then take a poll of the community. Let us see how many find his posts offensive. Should Maior be moderated? Should Sulla or anyone else be moderated? Then maybe we should use to polling feature to see how the community really feels about such trivial matters so that we can move on to more important things."

Fortunately, we are not run by mob rule or personal animosity or demagoguery - which you seem to be all in favor of here - as the rebuttal of the praetors' abuses has proven. We have the law. You might not like it, but the law is there to protect us from precisely the kind of thing you are advocating.

Vale,

Cato

Salvete omnes,



Just to remind all that the deadline for praetorian candidacies is TOMORROW nearly same time (6:01 pm Rome time).



At this time, the 5 candidacies recorded by the consulate for praetors are the following ones, in the chronological order of their record:

P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator, sen.
Q. Fabius Maximus, sen. consularis
Ti. Galerius Paulinus, sen. censorius
A. Tullia Scholastica, sen. praetoria
M. Hortensia Maior, sen. praetoria



Valete omnes,


Albucius cos.

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Salve Proconsul Novae Hispaniae !

I note that you do not expect that your flag team, Mexico, goes that far, to Finals. ;-)

As in Gallia, we are telling that Francogalli cannot play worst than they currently do since 2 years,... one never knows...!

So please give a little help, if you have some influence in Mexican national team: ask them to allow currently boring Francogallia's team just to score one small goal more than they will, on this coming thursday! ;-)

Yes, i know.... sed per angusta ad augusta... ;-)


Vale bene,


P. Memmius Albucius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Rotae amice,
>
> I know that the Azzurri usually go from less to best, I am counting with them doing just that this time again.
> Oh, I'd love a final between Italians and Germans!
>
> Vale,
>  
> M•IVL•SEVERVS
>
> SENATOR
> PRO•CONSVL•PROVINCIÆ•MEXICI
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

M. Hortensia Quiritibus spd;

strong moderation is the only way we can take back the ML from the non-productive incessant bickering and devote ourselves to what Nova Roma is about:

"Dedicated to the restoration of classical Roman religion, culture and virtues"

Quirites this is our opportunity to take back Nova Roma!
vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Piscino sal.
>
> You wrote (among a lot of other nonsense):
>
> "Should Cato be moderated for irritating people by his posts? Then take a poll of the community. Let us see how many find his posts offensive. Should Maior be moderated? Should Sulla or anyone else be moderated? Then maybe we should use to polling feature to see how the community really feels about such trivial matters so that we can move on to more important things."
>
> Fortunately, we are not run by mob rule or personal animosity or demagoguery - which you seem to be all in favor of here - as the rebuttal of the praetors' abuses has proven. We have the law. You might not like it, but the law is there to protect us from precisely the kind of thing you are advocating.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>

Salve Germanice,
the reason I continue to intervene on this boring topic is that otherwise
the truth-twisting propaganda of the other side will prevail.

For example here you are saying that the praetrix resigned because she
admitted to abusing her power, while the truth is exacly the opposite: Maior
resigned because she was being constantly prevented from doing her job.

Optime vale,
Livia

> Salve Plauta,
>
> Respectfully -
> I - and the majority of citizens, I believe - saw an abuse of power.
> The tribunes saw an abuse of power.
> The consul saw an abuse of power.
> The praetrix resigned, to all appearances as an admission that she had
> abused her power.
>
> Cato doesn't have to say anything. Res ipsa loquitur - the matter speaks
> for
> itself.
> And POSTING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS is severely lacking in dignitas.
>
> I have no quarrel with you, Plauta, but it seems to me that you're trying
> to
> bait Cato and continue the debate on a matter in which the people and
> their
> representatives have already ruled. The next referendum on this will be
> the
> next election. So vote!
>
> Respectfully.
> Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:56 PM, L. Livia Plauta
> <livia.plauta@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Salve Cato,
>> no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you
>> think
>> that repeating a lie will make it true.
>> You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
>> silencing.
>> Let's repeat it once again:
>> MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
>> POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
>>
>> As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
>> don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly
>> spam.
>>
>> Vale,
>> Livia
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...>
>> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:27 PM
>> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.
>>
>> Cato Agricolae sal.
>>
>> And just to be absolutely clear, Agricola, you understand that the
>> praetors
>>
>> were found to have been abusing - repeatedly and without any sense of
>> remorse - their power on this List. Maior was not a victim, but the
>> perpetrator of blatant and direct abuse of the power of which you speak.
>>
>> Maior attempted over and over again to silence a citizen simply because
>> she
>>
>> has a personal vendetta against them, NOT based on our law. She abused
>> her
>> office, used her imperium in an attempt to stifle anything with which she
>> disagreed.
>>
>> Both consular imperium and the authority of the tribunes were used to
>> stop
>> her attempts to disgrace her office and continue her violations of our
>> law.
>>
>> Vale,
>>
>> Cato
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "Qua(e) patres difficillime
> adepti sunt nolite
> turpiter relinquere" -
> Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
> (Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)
>
> Check out my books on Goodreads: <a href="
> http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
> http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus</a>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Salve Cato,
the praetors receive complaints all the time about your posts, because you
think your right of free speech allows you to be annoying and boring and you
seem to have no good manners to stop you from posting on topics which you
know are not welcome. Unfortunately our laws, like the laws of many
macronations, cannot protect us from ill manners.

However the fact of putting you in moderation doesn't violate any of our
laws. They would be violated only the moment one of your post is not allowed
to go through to the Main List even if it has no offending content. As far
as I know there was no actual case of a post of yours actually being blocked
from reaching the main list, so the praetors never abused their power.

The right of pre-screening posts is absolutely part of their job
description.

Any other person would have understood the first warning and stopped making
posts on unwelcome topics, but you are like a spoiled child, and you have to
go on doing it just because you can, and in order to annoy people.
Maybe you don't realize what this has done to your popularity in Nova Roma.
While some years ago you enjoyed a good reputation, also thanks to your
calendar posts (annoying as some of them were), now you would be hard
pressed to find someone who doesn't hate you.
And this is all your own doing. My compliments!

Optime vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.


Cato Liviae Plautae sal.

Livia, you need to take a deep breath and then re-read the archives
regarding this. Every time the praetors tried to moderate me, they were
stopped from doing so based on our law. That is a fact, and no amount of
shouting (yes, all caps is the equivalent of shouting) will change it.

In other words, the praetors were breaking our law - abusing their power -
and they were stopped. Every time. Violating the law - even with what
apparently you believe were "good" intentions in spite of the obvious bias
involved - is wrong, and must not be allowed to happen again. Just imagine,
if you will, that I were praetor and decided that I didn't like listening to
*you*. Can you imagine the reaction?

I didn't hear you make a single comment about the impiety of violating a
dies nefastus - twice - but then you'd only do that if *I* did it, right?

Vale,

Cato



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...>
wrote:
>
> Salve Cato,
> no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you
> think
> that repeating a lie will make it true.
> You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
> silencing.
> Let's repeat it once again:
> MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
> POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
>
> As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
> don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly spam.
>
> Vale,
> Livia

Salve

If you want a real nice atmosphere one needs to travel to Germany or Italy during such a Final combination... an experience of a lifetime!!!


C.AQV Rota

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...> wrote:

From: M•IVL•SEVERVS <marcusiuliusseverus@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The End of the World is near!!!
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 3:03 PM







 









Salve Rotae amice,



I know that the Azzurri usually go from less to best, I am counting with them doing just that this time again.

Oh, I'd love a final between Italians and Germans!



Vale,

 

M•IVL•SEVERVS



SENATOR

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You're certainly speaking only for yourself when you say that everyone here hates Cato. Let me put it on the record: I, for one, do not hate Cato.

Anyone else here who doesn't hate Cato?

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Cato,
> the praetors receive complaints all the time about your posts, because you
> think your right of free speech allows you to be annoying and boring and you
> seem to have no good manners to stop you from posting on topics which you
> know are not welcome. Unfortunately our laws, like the laws of many
> macronations, cannot protect us from ill manners.
>
> However the fact of putting you in moderation doesn't violate any of our
> laws. They would be violated only the moment one of your post is not allowed
> to go through to the Main List even if it has no offending content. As far
> as I know there was no actual case of a post of yours actually being blocked
> from reaching the main list, so the praetors never abused their power.
>
> The right of pre-screening posts is absolutely part of their job
> description.
>
> Any other person would have understood the first warning and stopped making
> posts on unwelcome topics, but you are like a spoiled child, and you have to
> go on doing it just because you can, and in order to annoy people.
> Maybe you don't realize what this has done to your popularity in Nova Roma.
> While some years ago you enjoyed a good reputation, also thanks to your
> calendar posts (annoying as some of them were), now you would be hard
> pressed to find someone who doesn't hate you.
> And this is all your own doing. My compliments!
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@>
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:15 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.
>
>
> Cato Liviae Plautae sal.
>
> Livia, you need to take a deep breath and then re-read the archives
> regarding this. Every time the praetors tried to moderate me, they were
> stopped from doing so based on our law. That is a fact, and no amount of
> shouting (yes, all caps is the equivalent of shouting) will change it.
>
> In other words, the praetors were breaking our law - abusing their power -
> and they were stopped. Every time. Violating the law - even with what
> apparently you believe were "good" intentions in spite of the obvious bias
> involved - is wrong, and must not be allowed to happen again. Just imagine,
> if you will, that I were praetor and decided that I didn't like listening to
> *you*. Can you imagine the reaction?
>
> I didn't hear you make a single comment about the impiety of violating a
> dies nefastus - twice - but then you'd only do that if *I* did it, right?
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Cato,
> > no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you
> > think
> > that repeating a lie will make it true.
> > You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
> > silencing.
> > Let's repeat it once again:
> > MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
> > POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
> >
> > As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
> > don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly spam.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Livia
>

By who? So you're saying someone else was abusing their power in that they prevented Maior from doing hers? Who are these people?

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Germanice,
> the reason I continue to intervene on this boring topic is that otherwise
> the truth-twisting propaganda of the other side will prevail.
>
> For example here you are saying that the praetrix resigned because she
> admitted to abusing her power, while the truth is exacly the opposite: Maior
> resigned because she was being constantly prevented from doing her job.
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>
>
> > Salve Plauta,
> >
> > Respectfully -
> > I - and the majority of citizens, I believe - saw an abuse of power.
> > The tribunes saw an abuse of power.
> > The consul saw an abuse of power.
> > The praetrix resigned, to all appearances as an admission that she had
> > abused her power.
> >
> > Cato doesn't have to say anything. Res ipsa loquitur - the matter speaks
> > for
> > itself.
> > And POSTING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS is severely lacking in dignitas.
> >
> > I have no quarrel with you, Plauta, but it seems to me that you're trying
> > to
> > bait Cato and continue the debate on a matter in which the people and
> > their
> > representatives have already ruled. The next referendum on this will be
> > the
> > next election. So vote!
> >
> > Respectfully.
> > Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:56 PM, L. Livia Plauta
> > <livia.plauta@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Salve Cato,
> >> no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you
> >> think
> >> that repeating a lie will make it true.
> >> You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
> >> silencing.
> >> Let's repeat it once again:
> >> MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
> >> POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
> >>
> >> As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
> >> don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly
> >> spam.
> >>
> >> Vale,
> >> Livia
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@>
> >> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:27 PM
> >> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.
> >>
> >> Cato Agricolae sal.
> >>
> >> And just to be absolutely clear, Agricola, you understand that the
> >> praetors
> >>
> >> were found to have been abusing - repeatedly and without any sense of
> >> remorse - their power on this List. Maior was not a victim, but the
> >> perpetrator of blatant and direct abuse of the power of which you speak.
> >>
> >> Maior attempted over and over again to silence a citizen simply because
> >> she
> >>
> >> has a personal vendetta against them, NOT based on our law. She abused
> >> her
> >> office, used her imperium in an attempt to stifle anything with which she
> >> disagreed.
> >>
> >> Both consular imperium and the authority of the tribunes were used to
> >> stop
> >> her attempts to disgrace her office and continue her violations of our
> >> law.
> >>
> >> Vale,
> >>
> >> Cato
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Qua(e) patres difficillime
> > adepti sunt nolite
> > turpiter relinquere" -
> > Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
> > (Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)
> >
> > Check out my books on Goodreads: <a href="
> > http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
> > http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus</a>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

In a message dated 6/15/2010 12:55:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Cicero@... writes:

everyone here hates Cato. Let me put it on the record: I, for one, do not
hate Cato.





I think it would be a shorter list if we simply list who in Nova Roma hates
Cato.
Based on observation here it would be a count less than ten fingers.


Q. Fabius Maximus


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Salvete,

Folks, I have the impression we have received a sign here!

The question is though what does it mean?

C.AQV.ROTA

Salvete here it is :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lightning_strikes_jesus_statue

C.AQV.ROTA

Maybe Jesus didn't like the way the statue made him look?

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Aqvillivs" <c.aqvillivs_rota@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete,
>
> Folks, I have the impression we have received a sign here!
>
> The question is though what does it mean?
>
> C.AQV.ROTA
>

Salvete Omnes;

Having been Plebian upon my entry in Nova Roma so many years ago, I should
like to say that Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria has my confidence and i believe a
vote for her would be a granite block in the foundation of building a good
future for Nova Roma.

Valete - Venator, Plebian Emeritus ;-)


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Salve Cicero;

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM, lucius_cornelius_cicero wrote:
>
> Point taken, Valerianus. I am withdrawing my resignation.
>
> Cicero
>

Woof!!!

Don't scare me like that.

If elected Praetor, I was hoping you'd be around to give me advice.

Honored Censors, please accept this retraction.

In amicitia - Venator

Salvete Quirites!

I want to remind You all of the Contio of the Comitia Populi Tributa
as in the edict belw:

*********************

Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

The Fourteenth Consular edict CFBQ on the call for the elections in
Comitia Populi Tributa

I. I have received the Auguria for the elections in Comitia Populi
Tributa from Magister Collegium Augurii M. Moravius Piscinus with an
approving result.

II: Therefore the Contio will begin next 15th June at 06.00 hour (CET,
time of Rome) until 23rd June at 05.59 hour (time of Roma).

III. Voting will begin 24th June at 06.00 hour (time of Roma) until
06.01 CET Rome on 29 June (CET, time of Rome) for five full days.

IV. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given this 2nd of June, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo
Quintilianus, 2763 AUC.



*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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Salvete Omnes;

If I may?

Strong moderation...???

Who amongst us is wise enough to decide for every one just what
"strong moderation" should entail?

My method, if elected Praetor (with Maximus, Paulinus, or Scholastica)
is a collegial one. Form a consensus with the other Praetor AND the
Civis Nova Roma about the Community's standard of the level of
allowable "static" within our conversations. Having been a
communications security specialist in the USAF (Reserve), I am
familiar with signal to noise ratio.

I prefer mannerly speech, which can be profane without using
profanity. My parents and other elders showed me that one could be
vehement, yet measured. I like measured, reasoned arguments.

I do not mind, nor am threatened, by the postings of others, which
deal with their Cultus Privatus, save when they descend into the "I'm
Right - You ARE ALL WRONG" category, which I've very rarely seen here.

My beliefs are not threatened by the beliefs of others, only by the
physical actions of others.

I should, however, prefer that the expressions of others be prefaced
with disclaimers like "within my tradition..."

Nova Roma was founded by Cassius and Vedius with a mind towards a
rebirth and resurgance of the Religio Romana, I know this as I've been
here since close to the start.

Even though I am a follower of Asatru, a Germanic-Nordic Faith, I am
here to help build a safe and effective home for the Religio Romana.
Such helps to honor my Maternal Ancestors. I am not here due to
craving an intellectual, religious "flavor of the year," like some.

I have resigned in the past due, to reasons of poor health and family
duress, never in a fit of personal pique of perceived "oh whoa is
me"-ism...

I admit that I am wrong at times.

In amicitia - Venator

Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XVIII on Candidates for the elections in
Comitia Populi Tributa


II (Two positions) QUAESTORES:

Quintus Servilius Priscus

II (Two positions) ROGATORES:

Raina Cornelia Aeternia

I (One positions) CURULE AEDILE,:


Lucia Iulia Aquila

Gaius Equitius Cato


Given this 16th of June, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus,
2763 AUC.

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XIX on Candidates for the elections in Comitia
Populi Tributa

I: I hereby announce that I am on my way to the First Consular
Conventus in Rome.

II: I trust my Consular Colleague with the right to deal with issues
that needs our attention until i am back on Tuesday the 22nd of June.


*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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Salvete;

Free Speech DOES allow one to be both boring and annoying.

The responsibility of the "listener" is to filter out that which is of
no interest.

Free Speech does not allow one to be harmful or vicious, IF the words
lead to physical action.

In my opinion, anyone who can not deal with a boor or a pest by
deleting them should evaluate their true ability to be in an "online"
environment.

Boors and pests are with us as well as entertainers and sages.

Valete - Venator

(PS: Yes, I am saying that YOU are responsible for that which you
choose to receive.)

Salve Consul Albucius!

I do not expect that the Mexican team will make it to the finals... But I do expect that we will beat our Francogalli friends! The Mexican team should be in the next round, at least.
So, excuse me, dear friend, I can't help you... Prepare for the worst, hehehe!

Vale bene,
 
M•IVL•SEVERVS

SENATOR
PRO•CONSVL•PROVINCIÆ•MEXICI




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Salvete Omnes1

I have nearly no time, but I wish to inform all that I acknowledge
that my veto against the recognizion of te resignment of Marca
Hortensia was not legally possible and I hereby withdraw it even if it
is now is of no consequence.

Even the Sun have spots. ;-)

See You (even if You are few) in Rome! :-)

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae

M. Hortensia A. Tulliae C. Petronio spd;
hem, lingua vernacula Britannae singularis celebratae est;-) ecce listam quam facio
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Latin_for_e-mail

quaeso adiuvare amici!

vale
Maior

>
> >
> >
> > A. Tullia Scholastica C. Petronio Dextro M. Hortensiae Majori quiritibus,
> > sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis, praesertim fautoribus linguae Latinae,
> > S.P.D.
> >
> >
> > C. Petronius Hortensiae Maiori s.p.d.,
> >
> >> > et eius oblita sum; ecce website; hem, quo modo in latine 'website'
> >> dicitur?
> >
> > Dicam "telae situs" but perhaps another word was yet found by some neo
> > latinist...
> >
> > ATS: Situs interretialis sat saepe adhibetur.
> >
> > Qua de causa hanc pelliculam appellant Choice of Paris? Semper diximus
> > Judgment of Paris...
> >
> > Vale.
> >
> > C. Petronius Dexter
> > Arcoiali scribebat
> > A. d. XVII Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
> >
> >
> > Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Cato Maiori sal.

Breaking the law is not justifiable no matter what your goals are. If you don't like the law, then work to change it. As praetor, you certainly had the chance to do so. You chose, instead, to simply break it, abusing the authority the People gave you.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> M. Hortensia Quiritibus spd;
>
> strong moderation is the only way we can take back the ML from the non-productive incessant bickering and devote ourselves to what Nova Roma is about:
>
> "Dedicated to the restoration of classical Roman religion, culture and virtues"
>
> Quirites this is our opportunity to take back Nova Roma!
> vale
> Maior
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@> wrote:
> >
> > Cato Piscino sal.
> >
> > You wrote (among a lot of other nonsense):
> >
> > "Should Cato be moderated for irritating people by his posts? Then take a poll of the community. Let us see how many find his posts offensive. Should Maior be moderated? Should Sulla or anyone else be moderated? Then maybe we should use to polling feature to see how the community really feels about such trivial matters so that we can move on to more important things."
> >
> > Fortunately, we are not run by mob rule or personal animosity or demagoguery - which you seem to be all in favor of here - as the rebuttal of the praetors' abuses has proven. We have the law. You might not like it, but the law is there to protect us from precisely the kind of thing you are advocating.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>

Cato Liviae sal.

As was amply demonstrated, putting me on moderation did, in fact, violate our law. The rest of your speech is simply more vitriol.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Cato,
> the praetors receive complaints all the time about your posts, because you
> think your right of free speech allows you to be annoying and boring and you
> seem to have no good manners to stop you from posting on topics which you
> know are not welcome. Unfortunately our laws, like the laws of many
> macronations, cannot protect us from ill manners.
>
> However the fact of putting you in moderation doesn't violate any of our
> laws. They would be violated only the moment one of your post is not allowed
> to go through to the Main List even if it has no offending content. As far
> as I know there was no actual case of a post of yours actually being blocked
> from reaching the main list, so the praetors never abused their power.
>
> The right of pre-screening posts is absolutely part of their job
> description.
>
> Any other person would have understood the first warning and stopped making
> posts on unwelcome topics, but you are like a spoiled child, and you have to
> go on doing it just because you can, and in order to annoy people.
> Maybe you don't realize what this has done to your popularity in Nova Roma.
> While some years ago you enjoyed a good reputation, also thanks to your
> calendar posts (annoying as some of them were), now you would be hard
> pressed to find someone who doesn't hate you.
> And this is all your own doing. My compliments!
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cato" <catoinnyc@>
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:15 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: A day in the life.
>
>
> Cato Liviae Plautae sal.
>
> Livia, you need to take a deep breath and then re-read the archives
> regarding this. Every time the praetors tried to moderate me, they were
> stopped from doing so based on our law. That is a fact, and no amount of
> shouting (yes, all caps is the equivalent of shouting) will change it.
>
> In other words, the praetors were breaking our law - abusing their power -
> and they were stopped. Every time. Violating the law - even with what
> apparently you believe were "good" intentions in spite of the obvious bias
> involved - is wrong, and must not be allowed to happen again. Just imagine,
> if you will, that I were praetor and decided that I didn't like listening to
> *you*. Can you imagine the reaction?
>
> I didn't hear you make a single comment about the impiety of violating a
> dies nefastus - twice - but then you'd only do that if *I* did it, right?
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Cato,
> > no abuse of power on the part of the praetrices happened. As usual you
> > think
> > that repeating a lie will make it true.
> > You, and people in general in this list, keep confusing moderation with
> > silencing.
> > Let's repeat it once again:
> > MODERATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEONE CAN'T POST: IT ONLY MEANS THAT THEIR
> > POSTS GET SCREENED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT.
> >
> > As Scholastica reminded on this list, the number of posts that actually
> > don't make it trhough to the list is very small, and they are mostly spam.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Livia
>

Austrorientalis Herald A.D. XVII KAL. QVINT.

News from the Provincia!!!!!







Quod Novi?



Pretorium Conference A.D VIII ID. IVN.

After several weeks of planning, an untold number of emails and phone
calls between Legatus Pro Praetore Gaius Aquillius Rota, Procurator L.
Iulia Aquila and many Austrorientalis citizens our first A.Æ
Praetorium Web Conference as an entire cohor assembled A.D VIII ID. IVN.

The Conference commenced with an Invocation to Iuppiter by A.Æ
Sacerdos Prima, L. Iulia Aquila.

The Praetorium was greeted and introduced:

Praefectii

Gaius Aquillius Rota (Regio Carolina)

Caius Iulius Octavianus (Regio Florida)

C. Maria Caeca (Regio Georgia)

Gaius Antonius Germanicus (Regio Mississippi)

Lucia Iulia Aquila (Regio Tennessee)

Scribae

Tiberius Ovidius Aquila



For four hours discussions included finances, surveys, state and
population of the Regios, many projects that are still in very early
planning stages including the Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus,
marketing and public relations to increase citizenship not only in our
provincia but hopefully will spread to the adjacent provincias and in
Nova Roma in general. The next conference is scheduled for July 2010.

Our objective is to increase offline Novi Romani participation in our
province and network with other provinces that are doing the same.

Vivat Res Publica nostra prosperrime!





Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010

With much pleasure the Praetorium would like to announce the dates of
our Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 – Thursday October 7th
to Monday October 11th 2010. This is Columbus Day weekend so some
citizens may be able to take advantage the long weekend. The Conventus
will be held on the acreage of Propraetor Rota and the admission will be
free. Free campsites will be available and those who prefer camping in
hotel rooms can join this praecor thereJ naturally the attendee must pay
for their own hotel rooms.

Assistance with lodging, travel including carpools will be provided upon
request.



This event is so far very promising as already there are many with
skills and crafts related to Ancient Rome who have already expressed
interest in attending and quite a few who have already volunteered.
There will be Rituals, Military, Vendors of wonderful things, Games,
Poetry, Music, Art and educational presentations and of course meetings
– of many ilk, many of exhibitions and activities will be free!
Children's activities will also be offered as this is a family event
of course some events will be designated as adult only.



While there are many interesting activities in the works Propraetor Rota
is planning a huge banquet complete with Triclinium with many couches
where he and a carefully chosen staff will treat conventus goers to an
Ancient Roman Gastronomical repast!

Food of ancient origins will be available throughout the conventus with
smaller versions of the banquet being served in restaurant portion of
Propraetor Rota's domus.



How you can help out:

This conventus will pay for itself. Vendors will rent their tents,
citizens and vendors alike can sell their wares to a highly interested
general public. Those volunteering as servers will get a free meal.
Those are just a few examples.

We need Volunteers to help out in their area of expertise or just
general "hands." For example:

Servers for meals and rituals

Cultores to perform rituals

Ancient Roman hairstylist and barber

Beer and Winemaking (although the Propraetor will have his hand in this)

Cooks and kitchen help

Roman clothing (hopefully the Propraetor's uxor will display or sell
some of her creations)

Roman pottery demonstration et sales

Military et Gladitorial

Volunteers for children's activities (possibly a child care area)

Costumed Dancers esp. for the banquet

Poets (who can pronounce Latin)

Ancient Roman Healing modalities

Contests and Prizes

General Volunteers



All Novi Romani regardless of Provincia; If you would like to become
more involved in this, your conventus, or volunteer for the conventus
committee please notify Julia at luciaiuliaaquila@...
<mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>



Establishment of additional A.Æ mailing lists

Cohors Praetoria Provincia A.Ae (for Praetorium only)

Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 (interested Volunteers to be
invited sometime in July)





Citizen Spotlight

Gaius Aquillius Rota: Tribunus Plebis, Legatus Pro Praetore Provincia
A.Æ et Praefectus Regio America Septentrionalis

Rota's, his uxor and two sons restored their domus in a very Roman way
– they painstakingly did all the restoration, frescoes and decor
themselves. Domina Rota makes lovely tunicae and other Roman clothing
for her family. Rota has been in Legio Military re-enactments for
decades in Italy, Germany and here in the US, specializing in ancient
Roman foods.

The Roman life is a family affair, he and his family sell their homemade
cheese, pasta and bread at several different markets all over South
Carolina making contacts, friends and networking as the ancients Roman.
They also sell the wax "note book" and stylus, lamps and roman games
they make themselves also. Some lovely photos can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/l_j_a/sets/72157624024168571/





Famarum Mysterium

Since they are rumors, famae, I shall not repeat them. This too will
lend further to the "mystery" but once they are confirmed I will
reveal the treasures in future editions of the "Austrorientalis
Herald" Hint: multas famae buzz about the A.Æ conventus.





Sententiae "Speak like a Roman":

Salve! Mirabilis visu!

Greetings/Hello! It is marvelous to see you!

Tibi gratias, et tu!

Thank you, same to you!





Consilium Amor et Vitae Romani

Salve Iulietta, I am a Roman man of legal age from Volunum. I would
like to find a Roman lady with similar interests but this has been a
difficult task. Do you have any suggestions? Vale, P. Annius Ruga

Ave Ruga, Move away from Volunum to Pannonia.

But if you are unable to relocate sound advice might come from Ovidus
The Art of Love Bk I - in this regard while at Roman Days or another
Roman event:

"But above all, the Playhouse is the place, There's choice of quarry
in that narrow chace: There take thy stand, and sharply looking out,
Soon may'st thou find a mistress in the rout, For length of time or for
a single bout. The Theatres are berries for the fair; Like ants or
mole-hills thither they repair; Like bees to hives so numerously they
throng, It may be said they to that place belongÂ…" Vale, Iulietta







ABEVNT STVDIA IN MORES

Pursuits Pass Over Into Habits

~ Ovidus









Thank you for reading our first web edition of the Austrorientalis
Herald!



Classifieds:



Help Wanted:

Contributors and volunteers for the Austrorientalis Herald

Please contact Praeconis Provincea, L. Iulia Aquila at
luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...> , to
submit events, updates and newsworthy items to be included in our next
edition of the Austrorientalis Herald. This may includes brief and
important events in other Provincias as well outside of Austrorientalis,
esp. those that impact the entire citizenry of Nova Roma. Good natured
rumors, jokes, puzzles etc. are also encouraged. Latin and English
translations are encouraged as are Latin corrections by our Latinists
and may be made in ML replies.

All suggestions are appreciated.



Volunteer Editor(s) and Columnists Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis
for various columns in your field of expertise. Contact L. Iulia Aquila
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Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis with expertise in
copying, printing for marketing, PR and newsletters to be coordinated
under the leadership of Praefectus Gaius Antonius Germanicus. Contact L.
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L. Iulia Aquila

Sacerdos Veneris Genetricis

Columnist, Editor, whathaveyou

Procurator et Sacerdos Prima A.Æ

Praefectus Regio Tennessee

Accensa K. Buteonis

P. Memmio K. Buteone (II) cos. ‡ MMDCCLXIII a.u.c.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Austrorientalis Herald A.D. XVII KAL. QVINT.

News from the Provincia!!!!!



Quod Novi?



Pretorium Conference A.D VIII ID. IVN.

After several weeks of planning, an untold number of emails and phone
calls between Legatus Pro Praetore Gaius Aquillius Rota, Procurator L.
Iulia Aquila and many Austrorientalis citizens our first A.Æ
Praetorium Web Conference as an entire cohor assembled A.D VIII ID. IVN.

The Conference commenced with an Invocation to Iuppiter by A.Æ
Sacerdos Prima, L. Iulia Aquila.

The Praetorium was greeted and introduced:

Praefectii

Gaius Aquillius Rota (Regio Carolina)

Caius Iulius Octavianus (Regio Florida)

C. Maria Caeca (Regio Georgia)

Gaius Antonius Germanicus (Regio Mississippi)

Lucia Iulia Aquila (Regio Tennessee)

Scribae

Tiberius Ovidius Aquila



For four hours discussions included finances, surveys, state and
population of the Regios, many projects that are still in very early
planning stages including the Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus,
marketing and public relations to increase citizenship not only in our
provincia but hopefully will spread to the adjacent provincias and in
Nova Roma in general. The next conference is scheduled for July 2010.

Our objective is to increase offline Novi Romani participation in our
province and network with other provinces that are doing the same.

Vivat Res Publica nostra prosperrime!





Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010

With much pleasure the Praetorium would like to announce the dates of
our Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 – Thursday October 7th
to Monday October 11th 2010. This is Columbus Day weekend so some
citizens may be able to take advantage the long weekend. The Conventus
will be held on the acreage of Propraetor Rota and the admission will be
free. Free campsites will be available and those who prefer camping in
hotel rooms can join this praecor thereJ naturally the attendee must pay
for their own hotel rooms.

Assistance with lodging, travel including carpools will be provided upon
request.



This event is so far very promising as already there are many with
skills and crafts related to Ancient Rome who have already expressed
interest in attending and quite a few who have already volunteered.
There will be Rituals, Military, Vendors of wonderful things, Games,
Poetry, Music, Art and educational presentations and of course meetings
– of many ilk, many of exhibitions and activities will be free!
Children's activities will also be offered as this is a family event
of course some events will be designated as adult only.



While there are many interesting activities in the works Propraetor Rota
is planning a huge banquet complete with Triclinium with many couches
where he and a carefully chosen staff will treat conventus goers to an
Ancient Roman Gastronomical repast!

Food of ancient origins will be available throughout the conventus with
smaller versions of the banquet being served in restaurant portion of
Propraetor Rota's domus.



How you can help out:

This conventus will pay for itself. Vendors will rent their tents,
citizens and vendors alike can sell their wares to a highly interested
general public. Those volunteering as servers will get a free meal.
Those are just a few examples.

We need Volunteers to help out in their area of expertise or just
general "hands." For example:

Servers for meals and rituals

Cultores to perform rituals

Ancient Roman hairstylist and barber

Beer and Winemaking (although the Propraetor will have his hand in this)

Cooks and kitchen help

Roman clothing (hopefully the Propraetor's uxor will display or sell
some of her creations)

Roman pottery demonstration et sales

Military et Gladitorial

Volunteers for children's activities (possibly a child care area)

Costumed Dancers esp. for the banquet

Poets (who can pronounce Latin)

Ancient Roman Healing modalities

Contests and Prizes

General Volunteers



All Novi Romani regardless of Provincia; If you would like to become
more involved in this, your conventus, or volunteer for the conventus
committee please notify Julia at luciaiuliaaquila@...
<mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>



Establishment of additional A.Æ mailing lists

Cohors Praetoria Provincia A.Ae (for Praetorium only)

Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 (interested Volunteers to be
invited sometime in July)





Citizen Spotlight

Gaius Aquillius Rota: Tribunus Plebis, Legatus Pro Praetore Provincia
A.Æ et Praefectus Regio America Septentrionalis

Rota's, his uxor and two sons restored their domus in a very Roman way
– they painstakingly did all the restoration, frescoes and decor
themselves. Domina Rota makes lovely tunicae and other Roman clothing
for her family. Rota has been in Legio Military re-enactments for
decades in Italy, Germany and here in the US, specializing in ancient
Roman foods.

The Roman life is a family affair, he and his family sell their homemade
cheese, pasta and bread at several different markets all over South
Carolina making contacts, friends and networking as the ancients Roman.
They also sell the wax "note book" and stylus, lamps and roman games
they make themselves also. Some lovely photos can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/l_j_a/sets/72157624024168571/





Famarum Mysterium

Since they are rumors, famae, I shall not repeat them. This too will
lend further to the "mystery" but once they are confirmed I will
reveal the treasures in future editions of the "Austrorientalis
Herald" Hint: multas famae buzz about the A.Æ conventus.





Sententiae "Speak like a Roman":

Salve! Mirabilis visu!

Greetings/Hello! It is marvelous to see you!

Tibi gratias, et tu!

Thank you, same to you!





Consilium Amor et Vitae Romani

Salve Iulietta, I am a Roman man of legal age from Volunum. I would
like to find a Roman lady with similar interests but this has been a
difficult task. Do you have any suggestions? Vale, P. Annius Ruga

Ave Ruga, Move away from Volunum to Pannonia.

But if you are unable to relocate sound advice might come from Ovidus
The Art of Love Bk I - in this regard while at Roman Days or another
Roman event:

"But above all, the Playhouse is the place, There's choice of quarry
in that narrow chace: There take thy stand, and sharply looking out,
Soon may'st thou find a mistress in the rout, For length of time or for
a single bout. The Theatres are berries for the fair; Like ants or
mole-hills thither they repair; Like bees to hives so numerously they
throng, It may be said they to that place belongÂ…" Vale, Iulietta







ABEVNT STVDIA IN MORES

Pursuits Pass Over Into Habits

~ Ovidus





Thank you for reading our first web edition of the Austrorientalis
Herald!



Classifieds:



Help Wanted:

Contributors and volunteers for the Austrorientalis Herald

Please contact Praeconis Provincea, L. Iulia Aquila at
luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...> , to
submit events, updates and newsworthy items to be included in our next
edition of the Austrorientalis Herald. This may includes brief and
important events in other Provincias as well outside of Austrorientalis,
esp. those that impact the entire citizenry of Nova Roma. Good natured
rumors, jokes, puzzles etc. are also encouraged. Latin and English
translations are encouraged as are Latin corrections by our Latinists
and may be made in ML replies.

All suggestions are appreciated.



Volunteer Editor(s) and Columnists Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis
for various columns in your field of expertise. Contact L. Iulia Aquila
luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>



Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis to be
assistants/scribae to their Regio Praefectii and Procurator. Contact L.
Iulia Aquila luciaiuliaaquila@...
<mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>



Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis with expertise in
copying, printing for marketing, PR and newsletters to be coordinated
under the leadership of Praefectus Gaius Antonius Germanicus. Contact L.
Iulia Aquila luciaiuliaaquila@...
<mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>



Volunteers Needed submit Military articles to Scribae Ti. Ovidius Aquila
for the Austrorientalis Herald. Contact L. Iulia Aquila
luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>



Volunteers Needed to be L. Iulia AquilaJ





L. Iulia Aquila

Sacerdos Veneris Genetricis

Columnist, Editor, whathaveyou

Procurator et Sacerdos Prima A.Æ

Praefectus Regio Tennessee

Accensa K. Buteonis

P. Memmio K. Buteone (II) cos. ‡ MMDCCLXIII a.u.c.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Venii,

> If I may?

As long as I may as well.

> My method, if elected Praetor (with Maximus, Paulinus, or Scholastica)
> is a collegial one. Form a consensus with the other Praetor AND the
> Civis Nova Roma about the Community's standard of the level of
> allowable "static" within our conversations. Having been a
> communications security specialist in the USAF (Reserve), I am
> familiar with signal to noise ratio.

A consensus is a wise way. To me it is the primary way. Allowable "static" is sometimes needed to stir ideas - we need different points of view to progress and grow. It is also important to remember that when we bring together differences that wisdomn dictates a give and take to come to a compromise that works for all involved. Everyone should be prepared to give an inch towards an amiable solution.
"Community standards" to my sensibilities may be a good idea to begin with.

> I prefer mannerly speech, which can be profane without using
> profanity. My parents and other elders showed me that one could be
> vehement, yet measured. I like measured, reasoned arguments.

Exactly. I like what you are saying. I have not read one discussion on this list that warrented the shameful name-calling and abject demonstrations of hate seen on this ML.

> I do not mind, nor am threatened, by the postings of others, which
> deal with their Cultus Privatus, save when they descend into the "I'm
> Right - You ARE ALL WRONG" category, which I've very rarely seen here.

I am with you here. It appears as though some here purposely push each others buttons to manipulate a disruptive argument over a slight that can be ignored.

> My beliefs are not threatened by the beliefs of others, only by the
> physical actions of others.

Nor are my beliefs threatened but then I am secure in who I am.

> I should, however, prefer that the expressions of others be prefaced
> with disclaimers like "within my tradition..."

A good start, this could be workable within our social structure, with input from the citizens we should come to a reasonable agreement.

> I admit that I am wrong at times.

This, Sir, is admirable and an indication of well honed inner strength.

Cura ut valeas,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator <famila.ulleria.venii@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Omnes;
>
> If I may?
>
> Strong moderation...???
>
> Who amongst us is wise enough to decide for every one just what
> "strong moderation" should entail?
>
> My method, if elected Praetor (with Maximus, Paulinus, or Scholastica)
> is a collegial one. Form a consensus with the other Praetor AND the
> Civis Nova Roma about the Community's standard of the level of
> allowable "static" within our conversations. Having been a
> communications security specialist in the USAF (Reserve), I am
> familiar with signal to noise ratio.
>
> I prefer mannerly speech, which can be profane without using
> profanity. My parents and other elders showed me that one could be
> vehement, yet measured. I like measured, reasoned arguments.
>
> I do not mind, nor am threatened, by the postings of others, which
> deal with their Cultus Privatus, save when they descend into the "I'm
> Right - You ARE ALL WRONG" category, which I've very rarely seen here.
>
> My beliefs are not threatened by the beliefs of others, only by the
> physical actions of others.
>
> I should, however, prefer that the expressions of others be prefaced
> with disclaimers like "within my tradition..."
>
> Nova Roma was founded by Cassius and Vedius with a mind towards a
> rebirth and resurgance of the Religio Romana, I know this as I've been
> here since close to the start.
>
> Even though I am a follower of Asatru, a Germanic-Nordic Faith, I am
> here to help build a safe and effective home for the Religio Romana.
> Such helps to honor my Maternal Ancestors. I am not here due to
> craving an intellectual, religious "flavor of the year," like some.
>
> I have resigned in the past due, to reasons of poor health and family
> duress, never in a fit of personal pique of perceived "oh whoa is
> me"-ism...
>
> I admit that I am wrong at times.
>
> In amicitia - Venator
>

Avete,

Sorry the rich-text editor isn't working:(
And it looked so nice! It worked in the Austrorientalis ML.
Go figure.

Valete,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
>
> Austrorientalis Herald A.D. XVII KAL. QVINT.
>
> News from the Provincia!!!!!
>
>
>
> Quod Novi?
>
>
>
> Pretorium Conference A.D VIII ID. IVN.
>
> After several weeks of planning, an untold number of emails and phone
> calls between Legatus Pro Praetore Gaius Aquillius Rota, Procurator L.
> Iulia Aquila and many Austrorientalis citizens our first A.Æ
> Praetorium Web Conference as an entire cohor assembled A.D VIII ID. IVN.
>
> The Conference commenced with an Invocation to Iuppiter by A.Æ
> Sacerdos Prima, L. Iulia Aquila.
>
> The Praetorium was greeted and introduced:
>
> Praefectii
>
> Gaius Aquillius Rota (Regio Carolina)
>
> Caius Iulius Octavianus (Regio Florida)
>
> C. Maria Caeca (Regio Georgia)
>
> Gaius Antonius Germanicus (Regio Mississippi)
>
> Lucia Iulia Aquila (Regio Tennessee)
>
> Scribae
>
> Tiberius Ovidius Aquila
>
>
>
> For four hours discussions included finances, surveys, state and
> population of the Regios, many projects that are still in very early
> planning stages including the Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus,
> marketing and public relations to increase citizenship not only in our
> provincia but hopefully will spread to the adjacent provincias and in
> Nova Roma in general. The next conference is scheduled for July 2010.
>
> Our objective is to increase offline Novi Romani participation in our
> province and network with other provinces that are doing the same.
>
> Vivat Res Publica nostra prosperrime!
>
>
>
>
>
> Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010
>
> With much pleasure the Praetorium would like to announce the dates of
> our Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 – Thursday October 7th
> to Monday October 11th 2010. This is Columbus Day weekend so some
> citizens may be able to take advantage the long weekend. The Conventus
> will be held on the acreage of Propraetor Rota and the admission will be
> free. Free campsites will be available and those who prefer camping in
> hotel rooms can join this praecor thereJ naturally the attendee must pay
> for their own hotel rooms.
>
> Assistance with lodging, travel including carpools will be provided upon
> request.
>
>
>
> This event is so far very promising as already there are many with
> skills and crafts related to Ancient Rome who have already expressed
> interest in attending and quite a few who have already volunteered.
> There will be Rituals, Military, Vendors of wonderful things, Games,
> Poetry, Music, Art and educational presentations and of course meetings
> – of many ilk, many of exhibitions and activities will be free!
> Children's activities will also be offered as this is a family event
> of course some events will be designated as adult only.
>
>
>
> While there are many interesting activities in the works Propraetor Rota
> is planning a huge banquet complete with Triclinium with many couches
> where he and a carefully chosen staff will treat conventus goers to an
> Ancient Roman Gastronomical repast!
>
> Food of ancient origins will be available throughout the conventus with
> smaller versions of the banquet being served in restaurant portion of
> Propraetor Rota's domus.
>
>
>
> How you can help out:
>
> This conventus will pay for itself. Vendors will rent their tents,
> citizens and vendors alike can sell their wares to a highly interested
> general public. Those volunteering as servers will get a free meal.
> Those are just a few examples.
>
> We need Volunteers to help out in their area of expertise or just
> general "hands." For example:
>
> Servers for meals and rituals
>
> Cultores to perform rituals
>
> Ancient Roman hairstylist and barber
>
> Beer and Winemaking (although the Propraetor will have his hand in this)
>
> Cooks and kitchen help
>
> Roman clothing (hopefully the Propraetor's uxor will display or sell
> some of her creations)
>
> Roman pottery demonstration et sales
>
> Military et Gladitorial
>
> Volunteers for children's activities (possibly a child care area)
>
> Costumed Dancers esp. for the banquet
>
> Poets (who can pronounce Latin)
>
> Ancient Roman Healing modalities
>
> Contests and Prizes
>
> General Volunteers
>
>
>
> All Novi Romani regardless of Provincia; If you would like to become
> more involved in this, your conventus, or volunteer for the conventus
> committee please notify Julia at luciaiuliaaquila@...
> <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
>
>
> Establishment of additional A.Æ mailing lists
>
> Cohors Praetoria Provincia A.Ae (for Praetorium only)
>
> Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 (interested Volunteers to be
> invited sometime in July)
>
>
>
>
>
> Citizen Spotlight
>
> Gaius Aquillius Rota: Tribunus Plebis, Legatus Pro Praetore Provincia
> A.Æ et Praefectus Regio America Septentrionalis
>
> Rota's, his uxor and two sons restored their domus in a very Roman way
> – they painstakingly did all the restoration, frescoes and decor
> themselves. Domina Rota makes lovely tunicae and other Roman clothing
> for her family. Rota has been in Legio Military re-enactments for
> decades in Italy, Germany and here in the US, specializing in ancient
> Roman foods.
>
> The Roman life is a family affair, he and his family sell their homemade
> cheese, pasta and bread at several different markets all over South
> Carolina making contacts, friends and networking as the ancients Roman.
> They also sell the wax "note book" and stylus, lamps and roman games
> they make themselves also. Some lovely photos can be found here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/l_j_a/sets/72157624024168571/
>
>
>
>
>
> Famarum Mysterium
>
> Since they are rumors, famae, I shall not repeat them. This too will
> lend further to the "mystery" but once they are confirmed I will
> reveal the treasures in future editions of the "Austrorientalis
> Herald" Hint: multas famae buzz about the A.Æ conventus.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sententiae "Speak like a Roman":
>
> Salve! Mirabilis visu!
>
> Greetings/Hello! It is marvelous to see you!
>
> Tibi gratias, et tu!
>
> Thank you, same to you!
>
>
>
>
>
> Consilium Amor et Vitae Romani
>
> Salve Iulietta, I am a Roman man of legal age from Volunum. I would
> like to find a Roman lady with similar interests but this has been a
> difficult task. Do you have any suggestions? Vale, P. Annius Ruga
>
> Ave Ruga, Move away from Volunum to Pannonia.
>
> But if you are unable to relocate sound advice might come from Ovidus
> The Art of Love Bk I - in this regard while at Roman Days or another
> Roman event:
>
> "But above all, the Playhouse is the place, There's choice of quarry
> in that narrow chace: There take thy stand, and sharply looking out,
> Soon may'st thou find a mistress in the rout, For length of time or for
> a single bout. The Theatres are berries for the fair; Like ants or
> mole-hills thither they repair; Like bees to hives so numerously they
> throng, It may be said they to that place belongÂ…" Vale, Iulietta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ABEVNT STVDIA IN MORES
>
> Pursuits Pass Over Into Habits
>
> ~ Ovidus
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for reading our first web edition of the Austrorientalis
> Herald!
>
>
>
> Classifieds:
>
>
>
> Help Wanted:
>
> Contributors and volunteers for the Austrorientalis Herald
>
> Please contact Praeconis Provincea, L. Iulia Aquila at
> luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...> , to
> submit events, updates and newsworthy items to be included in our next
> edition of the Austrorientalis Herald. This may includes brief and
> important events in other Provincias as well outside of Austrorientalis,
> esp. those that impact the entire citizenry of Nova Roma. Good natured
> rumors, jokes, puzzles etc. are also encouraged. Latin and English
> translations are encouraged as are Latin corrections by our Latinists
> and may be made in ML replies.
>
> All suggestions are appreciated.
>
>
>
> Volunteer Editor(s) and Columnists Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis
> for various columns in your field of expertise. Contact L. Iulia Aquila
> luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
>
>
> Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis to be
> assistants/scribae to their Regio Praefectii and Procurator. Contact L.
> Iulia Aquila luciaiuliaaquila@...
> <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
>
>
> Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis with expertise in
> copying, printing for marketing, PR and newsletters to be coordinated
> under the leadership of Praefectus Gaius Antonius Germanicus. Contact L.
> Iulia Aquila luciaiuliaaquila@...
> <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
>
>
> Volunteers Needed submit Military articles to Scribae Ti. Ovidius Aquila
> for the Austrorientalis Herald. Contact L. Iulia Aquila
> luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
>
>
> Volunteers Needed to be L. Iulia AquilaJ
>
>
>
>
>
> L. Iulia Aquila
>
> Sacerdos Veneris Genetricis
>
> Columnist, Editor, whathaveyou
>
> Procurator et Sacerdos Prima A.Æ
>
> Praefectus Regio Tennessee
>
> Accensa K. Buteonis
>
> P. Memmio K. Buteone (II) cos. ‡ MMDCCLXIII a.u.c.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Iulia Cos. s.d

Have a safe trip and fruitful Conventus!

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Christer Edling <christer.edling@...> wrote:
>
> Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani
>
> Edictum Consulare CFBQ XIX on Candidates for the elections in Comitia
> Populi Tributa
>
> I: I hereby announce that I am on my way to the First Consular
> Conventus in Rome.
>
> II: I trust my Consular Colleague with the right to deal with issues
> that needs our attention until i am back on Tuesday the 22nd of June.
>
>
> *****************
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus
>
> Consul Iterum
> Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
> Civis Romanus sum
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
> Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
> Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
> ************************************************
> Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
> Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

C. Petronius Hortensiae Maiori s.p.d.,

> hem, lingua vernacula Britannae singularis celebratae est;-) ecce listam quam facio
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Latin_for_e-mail
> quaeso adiuvare amici!

Sunt in tela vocabula computatralia, tibi exemplum privatim mitto.

There are in the web computer words, I send you some in private.

Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
A. d. XVI Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

M. Hortensia L. Iuliae spd;
bene fecit! This is wonderful to see, getting together and planning real life events. A lesson for us all.
optime vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
>
> Austrorientalis Herald A.D. XVII KAL. QVINT.
>
> News from the Provincia!!!!!
>
>
>
> Quod Novi?
>
>
>
> Pretorium Conference A.D VIII ID. IVN.
>
> After several weeks of planning, an untold number of emails and phone
> calls between Legatus Pro Praetore Gaius Aquillius Rota, Procurator L.
> Iulia Aquila and many Austrorientalis citizens our first A.Æ
> Praetorium Web Conference as an entire cohor assembled A.D VIII ID. IVN.
>
> The Conference commenced with an Invocation to Iuppiter by A.Æ
> Sacerdos Prima, L. Iulia Aquila.
>
> The Praetorium was greeted and introduced:
>
> Praefectii
>
> Gaius Aquillius Rota (Regio Carolina)
>
> Caius Iulius Octavianus (Regio Florida)
>
> C. Maria Caeca (Regio Georgia)
>
> Gaius Antonius Germanicus (Regio Mississippi)
>
> Lucia Iulia Aquila (Regio Tennessee)
>
> Scribae
>
> Tiberius Ovidius Aquila
>
>
>
> For four hours discussions included finances, surveys, state and
> population of the Regios, many projects that are still in very early
> planning stages including the Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus,
> marketing and public relations to increase citizenship not only in our
> provincia but hopefully will spread to the adjacent provincias and in
> Nova Roma in general. The next conference is scheduled for July 2010.
>
> Our objective is to increase offline Novi Romani participation in our
> province and network with other provinces that are doing the same.
>
> Vivat Res Publica nostra prosperrime!
>
>
>
>
>
> Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010
>
> With much pleasure the Praetorium would like to announce the dates of
> our Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 – Thursday October 7th
> to Monday October 11th 2010. This is Columbus Day weekend so some
> citizens may be able to take advantage the long weekend. The Conventus
> will be held on the acreage of Propraetor Rota and the admission will be
> free. Free campsites will be available and those who prefer camping in
> hotel rooms can join this praecor thereJ naturally the attendee must pay
> for their own hotel rooms.
>
> Assistance with lodging, travel including carpools will be provided upon
> request.
>
>
>
> This event is so far very promising as already there are many with
> skills and crafts related to Ancient Rome who have already expressed
> interest in attending and quite a few who have already volunteered.
> There will be Rituals, Military, Vendors of wonderful things, Games,
> Poetry, Music, Art and educational presentations and of course meetings
> – of many ilk, many of exhibitions and activities will be free!
> Children's activities will also be offered as this is a family event
> of course some events will be designated as adult only.
>
>
>
> While there are many interesting activities in the works Propraetor Rota
> is planning a huge banquet complete with Triclinium with many couches
> where he and a carefully chosen staff will treat conventus goers to an
> Ancient Roman Gastronomical repast!
>
> Food of ancient origins will be available throughout the conventus with
> smaller versions of the banquet being served in restaurant portion of
> Propraetor Rota's domus.
>
>
>
> How you can help out:
>
> This conventus will pay for itself. Vendors will rent their tents,
> citizens and vendors alike can sell their wares to a highly interested
> general public. Those volunteering as servers will get a free meal.
> Those are just a few examples.
>
> We need Volunteers to help out in their area of expertise or just
> general "hands." For example:
>
> Servers for meals and rituals
>
> Cultores to perform rituals
>
> Ancient Roman hairstylist and barber
>
> Beer and Winemaking (although the Propraetor will have his hand in this)
>
> Cooks and kitchen help
>
> Roman clothing (hopefully the Propraetor's uxor will display or sell
> some of her creations)
>
> Roman pottery demonstration et sales
>
> Military et Gladitorial
>
> Volunteers for children's activities (possibly a child care area)
>
> Costumed Dancers esp. for the banquet
>
> Poets (who can pronounce Latin)
>
> Ancient Roman Healing modalities
>
> Contests and Prizes
>
> General Volunteers
>
>
>
> All Novi Romani regardless of Provincia; If you would like to become
> more involved in this, your conventus, or volunteer for the conventus
> committee please notify Julia at luciaiuliaaquila@...
> <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
>
>
> Establishment of additional A.Æ mailing lists
>
> Cohors Praetoria Provincia A.Ae (for Praetorium only)
>
> Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 (interested Volunteers to be
> invited sometime in July)
>
>
>
>
>
> Citizen Spotlight
>
> Gaius Aquillius Rota: Tribunus Plebis, Legatus Pro Praetore Provincia
> A.Æ et Praefectus Regio America Septentrionalis
>
> Rota's, his uxor and two sons restored their domus in a very Roman way
> – they painstakingly did all the restoration, frescoes and decor
> themselves. Domina Rota makes lovely tunicae and other Roman clothing
> for her family. Rota has been in Legio Military re-enactments for
> decades in Italy, Germany and here in the US, specializing in ancient
> Roman foods.
>
> The Roman life is a family affair, he and his family sell their homemade
> cheese, pasta and bread at several different markets all over South
> Carolina making contacts, friends and networking as the ancients Roman.
> They also sell the wax "note book" and stylus, lamps and roman games
> they make themselves also. Some lovely photos can be found here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/l_j_a/sets/72157624024168571/
>
>
>
>
>
> Famarum Mysterium
>
> Since they are rumors, famae, I shall not repeat them. This too will
> lend further to the "mystery" but once they are confirmed I will
> reveal the treasures in future editions of the "Austrorientalis
> Herald" Hint: multas famae buzz about the A.Æ conventus.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sententiae "Speak like a Roman":
>
> Salve! Mirabilis visu!
>
> Greetings/Hello! It is marvelous to see you!
>
> Tibi gratias, et tu!
>
> Thank you, same to you!
>
>
>
>
>
> Consilium Amor et Vitae Romani
>
> Salve Iulietta, I am a Roman man of legal age from Volunum. I would
> like to find a Roman lady with similar interests but this has been a
> difficult task. Do you have any suggestions? Vale, P. Annius Ruga
>
> Ave Ruga, Move away from Volunum to Pannonia.
>
> But if you are unable to relocate sound advice might come from Ovidus
> The Art of Love Bk I - in this regard while at Roman Days or another
> Roman event:
>
> "But above all, the Playhouse is the place, There's choice of quarry
> in that narrow chace: There take thy stand, and sharply looking out,
> Soon may'st thou find a mistress in the rout, For length of time or for
> a single bout. The Theatres are berries for the fair; Like ants or
> mole-hills thither they repair; Like bees to hives so numerously they
> throng, It may be said they to that place belongÂ…" Vale, Iulietta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ABEVNT STVDIA IN MORES
>
> Pursuits Pass Over Into Habits
>
> ~ Ovidus
>
>
>
>
>
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REMOVE ME FROM THE MAILING LIST!


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Iulia Hortensia S.P.D.

Part of this plan is to get you involved as well - so start thinking of what delicious goodies you are going to bake!

Optime vale,

Julia

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> M. Hortensia L. Iuliae spd;
> bene fecit! This is wonderful to see, getting together and planning real life events. A lesson for us all.
> optime vale
> Maior
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Salve,

You can do this yourself:

Click on "Edit Membership" near the top center of the webpage
Scroll down and in the bottom right hand corner click on "leave group"

Vale

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Hi
But I don't remember my username and password

regards

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Salve,



You can do this yourself:



Click on "Edit Membership" near the top center of the webpage

Scroll down and in the bottom right hand corner click on "leave group"



Vale



Julia



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Hello,

I joined this group in order to learn Roman mythology. All I get is somebody resigning, somebody abusing somebody else, etc.
I am disappointed L
Please remove me from this list L

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Salve,

You can do this yourself:

Click on "Edit Membership" near the top center of the webpage

Scroll down and in the bottom right hand corner click on "leave group"

Vale

Julia

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In a message dated 6/16/2010 2:04:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Nagaraj.Hm@... writes:

I joined this group in order to learn Roman mythology.




You should join the Religious list. However, we don't see it as pure myth.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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M. Moravius Piscinus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Vesta nos complectatur dulce.

Hodie est ante diem XVI Kalendas Quinctilias; haec dies comitialis est:

Felices natalis, Kaeso Modiane! Di Deaeque te faveant. Today is the birthday of Kaeso Fabius Buteone Modianus, Pontifex, Augur, and Censor.

The Fourth Day of the Moon

Today being the fourth day of the new moon, I thought to include what Pliny has to say of it as a weather sign.

"In Egypt, attention is paid, more particularly, to the fourth day of the moon. If, when the moon rises, she shines with a pure bright light, it is generally supposed that we shall have fine weather; but if she is red, there will be wind, and if of a swarthy hue (Vir. Geo. 1.427), rain. If upon the fifth day of the moon her horns are obtuse, they are always indicative of rain, but if sharp and erect, of wind, and this on the fourth day of the moon more particularly. If her northern horn is pointed and erect, it portends wind; and if it is the lower horn that presents this appearance, the wind will be from the south; if both of them are erect, there will be high winds in the night. If upon the fourth day of the moon she is surrounded by a red circle, it is portentous of wind and rain.

"In Varro we find it stated to the following effect: 'If, at the fourth day of the moon, her horns are erect, there will be great storms at sea, unless, indeed, she has a circlet around her, and that circlet unblemished; for by that sign we are informed that there will be no stormy weather before full moon. If, at the full moon, one half of her disk is clear, it is indicative of fine weather, but if it is red, of wind, and if black, of rain. If a darkness comes over the face of the moon, covered with clouds, in whatever quarter it breaks, from that quarter wind may be expected. If a twofold circle surrounds the moon, the storm will be more violent, and even more so still, if there are three circles, or if they are black, broken, and disjointed. If the new moon at her rising has the upper horn obscured, there will be a prevalence of rainy weather, when she is on the wane; but if it is the lower horn that is obscured, there will be rain before full moon; if, again, the moon is darkened in the middle of her disk, there will be rain when she is at full. If the moon, when full, has a circle round her, it indicates wind from the quarter in the circle which is the brightest; but if at her rising the horns are obtuse, they are portentous of a frightful tempest. If, when the west wind prevails, the moon does not make her appearancè before her fourth day, there will be a prevalence of stormy weather throughout the month. If on the sixteenth day the moon has a bright, flaming appearance, it is a presage of violent tempests.'" ~ C. Plinius Secundus, Historia Naturalis 18.79


AUC 1144 /391 CE: Destruction of the Serapium in Alexandria by Theophilus.

In 390 the arrest of a popular charioteer led to a revolt in Thessalonica. In retaliation, Theodosius order a massacre of 7,000. Ambrose, the bishop of Milan, then excommunicated Theodosius until such time as he would expiate himself of the crime. On Christmas day 390 Theodosius was once again allowed to take communion, and afterward he began to use his imperial power against the culti Deorum expatriae. On 24 February 391 CE Theodosius issued an edict from Milan that said, "No one is to go to the sanctuaries, walk through the temples, or raise his eyes to statues created by the labor of man." Then on 16 June 391 another edict of similar provisions was issued from Aquilea to the military governor of Egypt (Codex Theod. 16.10.10-11). Theophilus, the Bishop of Alexandria, immediately set out, under the authority of the edict, to destroy the sanctuaries in and around Alexandria. Seizing a temple, he mocked the sacred articles he discovered there within. This caused an uprising of the cultores Deorum of the Alexandria. Led by the Neoplatonist philosopher Olympius, they took refuge in the main temple of the city, the Serapeum, which they fortified into a citadel. Imperial soldiers surrounded and assaulted the Serapeum, destroying it in their attack. Olympius escaped to Italy. Helladius and Ammonius went to Constantinople where they continued to teach, one becoming a priest of Zeus while the other was priest to Hermes Thoth. The intellectuals of the city began to flee Alexandria, among them the poet Claudian who emigrated to Rome.

A year or two before the destruction of the Serapeum, Libanius wrote the Pro Templis to Emperor Theodosius. Libanius was a companion to Emperor Julian the Blessed, one who delivered the eulogy at the Emperor's funeral. In Pro Templis he told of the benefits to the Empire if Theodosius continued his policy of limited toleration, citing the Serapeum as one example.

"But neither is it at Rome only that the liberty of sacrificing remains, but also in the city of Serapis (Alexandria), that great and populous city, which has a multitude of temples, by which it renders the plenty of Egypt common to all men. This [plenty] is the work of the Nile. It therefore celebrates the Nile, and persuades him to rise and overflow the fields. If those rites were not performed, when and by whom they ought, he would not do so. Which they themselves seem to be sensible of, who willingly enough abolish such things, but do not abolish these; but permit the river to enjoy his ancient rites, for the sake of the benefit he affords." ~ Libanius, Pro Templis 85

Complaining to Theodosius of the bands of Christians who were then destroying temples, he pleaded for the Emperor to retain a policy that allowed the temples to remain open, as places protected by imperial law, where the ancient sacrifices could be continued for the benefit of all. But it was that very policy of limited toleration that Theodosius turned his back to in 391 CE with the immediate consequence of the destruction of the Serapeum, the burning of the great library, and the end of Alexandria as the leading intellectual center of the ancient world.

Written around 270 CE, the third part of the Logos Teleios foretold of such events.

"There will come a time when it will be seen that in vain have the Egyptians honored the deity with heartfelt piety and assiduous service; and all our holy worship will be found bootless and ineffectual. For the Gods will return from earth to heaven; Egypt will be forsaken, and the land which was once home of religion will be left desolate, bereft of the presence of deities. ... In that day will our most holy land, this land of shrines and temples, be filled with funerals and corpses. To thee most holy Nile, I cry, to thee I foretell that which will shall be; swollen with torrents of blood, thou wilt rise to the level of thy banks, and thy sacred waves will not be only stained, but utterly fouled with gore. ... Egypt, O Egypt, of thy religion nothing will remain but an empty tale, which thy own children in time to come will not believe; nothing will be left but graven words, and only stones will tell of thy piety. And in that day men will be weary of life, and they will cease to think the universe worthy of reverent wonder and worship." ~ Asclepius III 24b-25

Not all is so dark and foreboding in the Latin version of the Logos Teleios, known as the Asclepius. For it also foretells of a later time when the God before all others, Deus Primipotens, who made the First God to come into Being, will call back the righteous and through floodwaters and fire rid the earth of evil. Then a New City, reflecting the kosmos in ideal form, shall be built, shining the light of true philosophy over the restored world and the Gods will return once more. "Truly then shall Jupiter-Pluto rule over land and sea."


Roman Maidens Do Not Marry During Dies Religiosi

"For what reason is it not the custom for maidens to marry on public holidays, but widows do marry at this time? Is it, as Varro has remarked, that maidens are grieved over marrying, but older women are glad, and on a holiday one should do nothing in grief or by constraint? Or is it rather because it is seemly that not a few should be present when maidens marry, but disgraceful that many should be present when widows marry? Now the first marriage is enviable; but the second is to be deprecated, for women are ashamed if they take a second husband while the first husband is still living, and they feel sad if they do so when he is dead. Wherefore they rejoice in a quiet wedding rather than in noise and processions. Holidays distract most people, so that they have no leisure for such matters. Or, because they seized the maiden daughters of the Sabines at a holiday festival, and thereby became involved in war, did they come to regard it as ill-omened to marry maidens on holy days?" ~ Plutarch, Roman Questions 105

In Greece the month of Thargelion fell in the latter part of May and the first half of June. It was marked by the three festivals of Thargelia, Kallynteria, and Plynteria. The Thargelia combined two rites. A pharmakos represented the fertility and creative power of the God of Vegetation. At this harvesting time that life-giving force was killed in order to preserve it from weakening with age. Slaying the corn-spirit as an offering back to the God assured the crop for the following year. Secondly, the ancients believed that evil was something physical – well, not exactly physical in our understanding of physical matter, but it could be transferred from one object to another. The ancients had the idea that they could ward evil off from an individual or from a whole populace through rites of transference. Thus the concept of the scape-goat in Hebrew tradition, and in certain parts of Greece the pharmakos also became the scape-goat. At times a man, usually a condemned criminal, would be designated as the pharmakos. For a year he would be feted and feasted as a god. But then at the Thargelia all of the evil and disease of the town was ritually transferred onto him and he was driven from the town. Stones were thrown at him to drive him away, even to the point of stoning him to death, and at one place he was driven over a cliff into the sea. The Kallynteria was when the temples of a town were swept out and cleansed. The Plynteria was when the sacred image of Pallas was cleansed. It is easy to see the parallel between the Greek Thargelia and the Roman custom of the argei. The role of Hercules in the myth, concerning the origin of the argei, may even suggest a more direct link by the importation of the custom. The Kallynternia would then seem to relate to the period of the Vestalia, as both occurred in early June and involve the cleansing and purification of temples. Rome does not appear to have had a festival comparable to the Plyneria until the importation of the Hellenic cultus for the Magna Mater as an addition to the Roman cultus for the same Goddess.

If we ask why the Romans did not marry in the month of May and during the first half of June, as Plutarch asked, we might consider the same for Greece. It is really a simple matter to understand since both customs originate in Mediterranean cultures. During this
period when evil is being transferred onto the pharmakoi and the argei, one did not marry for fear that evil could be transferred onto the bride and thus spoil the marriage.


Our thought for today is from Demophilus 5:

"Engage either in speaking or acting after long consultation; for you have not the ability to recall either your words or deeds."

Salvete

He probably would not have, but I doubt that was the reason Jupiter smote that obscene sight to ashes. It stood in southern Ohio north of Cincinnati. Not far away to the east is the largest Hindu temple in Ohio. Further east is the famous Snake Mound where pagans of all strains gather each year at the vernal equinox. It is an area where paganism is most active in Ohio. It is also the area where fundamentalist Christians have centered their push for their agenda against the arts, against equal rights for Gays and for Blacks, against gambling casinos and other things. Also it is a region of Ohio where the ACLU is in a constant battle against the flagrant abuses of Christians in the schools and local governments. The Cincinnati area is conservative, Republican, fundamentalist Christian, the Queen City, as opposed to northeast Ohio where Cleveland-Akron area is liberal, the bastion of Democrats, ethnically diverse, the Christians are predominantly Roman Catholic, and where the largest communities of Orthodox Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Sikhs are found in Ohio. Those fundamentalist churches in the Cincinnati area are always crying about signs, raling against pagans (there was even one Baptist temple calling for me personally to be burned at the stake for being a pagan) so one of them being struck by lightning, especially on such an imposing, visible symbol as that was, I definitely take as some sort of sign.

Valete
Piscinus

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> Maybe Jesus didn't like the way the statue made him look?
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> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Aqvillivs" <c.aqvillivs_rota@> wrote:
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> > Salvete,
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> > Folks, I have the impression we have received a sign here!
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> > The question is though what does it mean?
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> > C.AQV.ROTA
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>

Juliae s.d.

Thanks for this really informative "herald" from your active Province.

All my sincere support and wishes for gov. Rota and the whole team.

Valete sincerely omnes,


Albucius cos.

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> Austrorientalis Herald A.D. XVII KAL. QVINT.
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> News from the Provincia!!!!!
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> Quod Novi?
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> Pretorium Conference A.D VIII ID. IVN.
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> After several weeks of planning, an untold number of emails and phone
> calls between Legatus Pro Praetore Gaius Aquillius Rota, Procurator L.
> Iulia Aquila and many Austrorientalis citizens our first A.Æ
> Praetorium Web Conference as an entire cohor assembled A.D VIII ID. IVN.
>
> The Conference commenced with an Invocation to Iuppiter by A.Æ
> Sacerdos Prima, L. Iulia Aquila.
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> The Praetorium was greeted and introduced:
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> Praefectii
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> Gaius Aquillius Rota (Regio Carolina)
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> Caius Iulius Octavianus (Regio Florida)
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> C. Maria Caeca (Regio Georgia)
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> Gaius Antonius Germanicus (Regio Mississippi)
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> Lucia Iulia Aquila (Regio Tennessee)
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> Scribae
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> Tiberius Ovidius Aquila
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> For four hours discussions included finances, surveys, state and
> population of the Regios, many projects that are still in very early
> planning stages including the Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus,
> marketing and public relations to increase citizenship not only in our
> provincia but hopefully will spread to the adjacent provincias and in
> Nova Roma in general. The next conference is scheduled for July 2010.
>
> Our objective is to increase offline Novi Romani participation in our
> province and network with other provinces that are doing the same.
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> Vivat Res Publica nostra prosperrime!
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> Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010
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> With much pleasure the Praetorium would like to announce the dates of
> our Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 – Thursday October 7th
> to Monday October 11th 2010. This is Columbus Day weekend so some
> citizens may be able to take advantage the long weekend. The Conventus
> will be held on the acreage of Propraetor Rota and the admission will be
> free. Free campsites will be available and those who prefer camping in
> hotel rooms can join this praecor thereJ naturally the attendee must pay
> for their own hotel rooms.
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> Assistance with lodging, travel including carpools will be provided upon
> request.
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>
>
> This event is so far very promising as already there are many with
> skills and crafts related to Ancient Rome who have already expressed
> interest in attending and quite a few who have already volunteered.
> There will be Rituals, Military, Vendors of wonderful things, Games,
> Poetry, Music, Art and educational presentations and of course meetings
> – of many ilk, many of exhibitions and activities will be free!
> Children's activities will also be offered as this is a family event
> of course some events will be designated as adult only.
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> While there are many interesting activities in the works Propraetor Rota
> is planning a huge banquet complete with Triclinium with many couches
> where he and a carefully chosen staff will treat conventus goers to an
> Ancient Roman Gastronomical repast!
>
> Food of ancient origins will be available throughout the conventus with
> smaller versions of the banquet being served in restaurant portion of
> Propraetor Rota's domus.
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> How you can help out:
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> This conventus will pay for itself. Vendors will rent their tents,
> citizens and vendors alike can sell their wares to a highly interested
> general public. Those volunteering as servers will get a free meal.
> Those are just a few examples.
>
> We need Volunteers to help out in their area of expertise or just
> general "hands." For example:
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> Servers for meals and rituals
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> Cultores to perform rituals
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> Ancient Roman hairstylist and barber
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> Beer and Winemaking (although the Propraetor will have his hand in this)
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> Cooks and kitchen help
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> Roman clothing (hopefully the Propraetor's uxor will display or sell
> some of her creations)
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> Roman pottery demonstration et sales
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> Military et Gladitorial
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> Volunteers for children's activities (possibly a child care area)
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> Costumed Dancers esp. for the banquet
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> Poets (who can pronounce Latin)
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> Ancient Roman Healing modalities
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> Contests and Prizes
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> General Volunteers
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> All Novi Romani regardless of Provincia; If you would like to become
> more involved in this, your conventus, or volunteer for the conventus
> committee please notify Julia at luciaiuliaaquila@...
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> Establishment of additional A.Æ mailing lists
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> Cohors Praetoria Provincia A.Ae (for Praetorium only)
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> Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 (interested Volunteers to be
> invited sometime in July)
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> Citizen Spotlight
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> Gaius Aquillius Rota: Tribunus Plebis, Legatus Pro Praetore Provincia
> A.Æ et Praefectus Regio America Septentrionalis
>
> Rota's, his uxor and two sons restored their domus in a very Roman way
> – they painstakingly did all the restoration, frescoes and decor
> themselves. Domina Rota makes lovely tunicae and other Roman clothing
> for her family. Rota has been in Legio Military re-enactments for
> decades in Italy, Germany and here in the US, specializing in ancient
> Roman foods.
>
> The Roman life is a family affair, he and his family sell their homemade
> cheese, pasta and bread at several different markets all over South
> Carolina making contacts, friends and networking as the ancients Roman.
> They also sell the wax "note book" and stylus, lamps and roman games
> they make themselves also. Some lovely photos can be found here:
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/l_j_a/sets/72157624024168571/
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> Famarum Mysterium
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> Since they are rumors, famae, I shall not repeat them. This too will
> lend further to the "mystery" but once they are confirmed I will
> reveal the treasures in future editions of the "Austrorientalis
> Herald" Hint: multas famae buzz about the A.Æ conventus.
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> Sententiae "Speak like a Roman":
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> Salve! Mirabilis visu!
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> Greetings/Hello! It is marvelous to see you!
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> Tibi gratias, et tu!
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> Thank you, same to you!
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> Consilium Amor et Vitae Romani
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> Salve Iulietta, I am a Roman man of legal age from Volunum. I would
> like to find a Roman lady with similar interests but this has been a
> difficult task. Do you have any suggestions? Vale, P. Annius Ruga
>
> Ave Ruga, Move away from Volunum to Pannonia.
>
> But if you are unable to relocate sound advice might come from Ovidus
> The Art of Love Bk I - in this regard while at Roman Days or another
> Roman event:
>
> "But above all, the Playhouse is the place, There's choice of quarry
> in that narrow chace: There take thy stand, and sharply looking out,
> Soon may'st thou find a mistress in the rout, For length of time or for
> a single bout. The Theatres are berries for the fair; Like ants or
> mole-hills thither they repair; Like bees to hives so numerously they
> throng, It may be said they to that place belongÂ…" Vale, Iulietta
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> ABEVNT STVDIA IN MORES
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> Pursuits Pass Over Into Habits
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> ~ Ovidus
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> Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis with expertise in
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