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Salvete omnes,

Finally things start to get moving in Nova Roma. The train to reality is
leaving the Station. I am currently
working at some very real projects in America Austrorientalis.
Procurator L.Iul. Aquila shows me her
ambitions and enthusiasm about the hands on duties she currently
fulfills.
She is a talented and competent person with the spirit and energy of the
Roman Eagle.
With her experience in Marketing, Sales and within NR she is the ideal
candidate for our new Curule Aedile!

Her commitment to Nova Roma is full of hands on energy.......not just
talk.!

Under her hand we all can be sure that the Macellum gets fixed and
running, we can be sure that our Ludi will become
even more colorful and interesting as they already are, we can be sure
that we all get a step closer to our dream.

I fully stand for that dream and I, myself will vote with confidence for
IVLIA AQVILA .... you should too.

To all those among us who wish for more real action and who want to get
real instead of a lot of talk in the spheres of
virtualty ......... support our honorable IVLIA AQVILA and the train
gathers speed.

Gaius Aquillius Rota
TRI. PLEBIS
LEG.PR.PR.PROV.A-Ae


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SHE IS RUNNING FOR CURULE AEDILE !!!!

Salvete omnes,

Finally things start to get moving in Nova Roma. The train to reality is
leaving the Station. I am currently
working at some very real projects in America Austrorientalis.
Procurator L.Iul. Aquila shows me her
ambitions and enthusiasm about the hands on duties she currently
fulfills.
She is a talented and competent person with the spirit and energy of the
Roman Eagle.
With her experience in Marketing, Sales and within NR she is the ideal
candidate for our new Curule Aedile!

Her commitment to Nova Roma is full of hands on energy.......not just
talk.!

Under her hand we all can be sure that the Macellum gets fixed and
running, we can be sure that our Ludi will become
even more colorful and interesting as they already are, we can be sure
that we all get a step closer to our dream.

I fully stand for that dream and I, myself will vote with confidence for
IVLIA AQVILA .... you should too.

To all those among us who wish for more real action and who want to get
real instead of a lot of talk in the spheres of
virtualty ......... support our honorable IVLIA AQVILA and the train
gathers speed.

Gaius Aquillius Rota
TRI. PLEBIS
LEG.PR.PR.PROV.A-Ae



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Cato Modiano sal.

Why does it require "devotion"? Can devotion only arise from religious "belief"? What about saecular devotion to the State?

Just because a religious ... zeal ... might not be present does not preclude the idea that there is an understanding that, no matter what these "rote gestures" might mean, they are an important part of the fabric of public life - the belief that the precise and correct practice of the rites and rituals are necessary for peace and prosperity, and that in itself is enough; to paraphrase the words of another writer, it would be counted to them as faith.

By the way, I consider the fact that I have always felt and spoken this way as a compliment rather than a deficiency :)

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> But it does require devotion and not simply rote gesture. How do you
> distinguish them?
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Cato Modiano sal.
> >
> > Please remember that I wrote (just a couple of days ago):
> >
> > "That does not, however, mean that they can be nothing *more* than that,
> > which is what seems to be the cliff that those who are most historically
> > derisive of my opinion willingly leap off. I think that privately you can
> > make the cultus Deorum as much or as little as you want for your own life,
> > be it a simple nod to Them on holidays or a regular and intense personal
> > relationship with Them. It is the State cult that concerns me most, of
> > course, as a citizen."
> >
> > And the State cult does *not* require "belief".
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit

I don't necessarily disagree with you. In sacramental theology within the
Roman Catholic Church there is a degree of orthopraxy -- likely from their
evolution from ancient Roman religion. For example, a priest need not
be pious to affect the consecration of the Eucharist to assert such is
Donatism. Likewise, in Catholic theology two things are needed matter and
form along with intention. Faith is not an essential ingredient in the
administration of sacraments; therefore, I follow your logic on the
"Orthopraxic" nature of the Religio Romana -- it is similar to the Roman
Catholic Church's understanding of sacramental theology. What would be
required to conduct a "proper" ceremony of the Religio Romana would be the
necessary "matter and form" followed by correct intention. "Faith" is not
necessary BUT the intention makes it MORE than just a reenactment, and MIGHT
be problematic for someone who belongs to a Monotheistic faith.

Vale;

Modianus

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:

>
>
> Cato Modiano sal.
>
> Why does it require "devotion"? Can devotion only arise from religious
> "belief"? What about saecular devotion to the State?
>
> Just because a religious ... zeal ... might not be present does not
> preclude the idea that there is an understanding that, no matter what these
> "rote gestures" might mean, they are an important part of the fabric of
> public life - the belief that the precise and correct practice of the rites
> and rituals are necessary for peace and prosperity, and that in itself is
> enough; to paraphrase the words of another writer, it would be counted to
> them as faith.
>
> By the way, I consider the fact that I have always felt and spoken this way
> as a compliment rather than a deficiency :)
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>


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Ave,

Why is Pontiff Q. Cacelius Metellus up on the CP agenda?

I am wondering if this is in retaliation for his filing charges against
Maior?

Maior conveniently and halfheartedly talks about Concordia yet refuses to
answer my question yesterday, and for that matter the CP itself has failed
in its responsibility to give a citizen and board of director member an
explanation.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


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Ocella L. Antoniae Aurigae sal,

I watched it on the 13th of June and quite enjoyed it, though I can see why some people are quick to point out faults. Still, I thought it was wonderful, and I thought Rachel Weisz did a brilliant job (I am a huge fan of hers though, so I am biased!), as did Oscar Isaac. It's unfortunate that it isn't being widely distributed in North America - probably because of its criticisms of religion, as was suggested by a friend of mine living in Britain.

I hope you eventually manage to watch it! There is a version online that was captured by less-than-honest means, but the quality is so poor that it is hardly worth investigating.

Optime vale!
Cn. Livia Ocella

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "fauxrari" <drivergirl@...> wrote:
>
> FYI...
>
> The movie 'Agora' about Hypathia of Alexandria is playing in Southern California art movie theaters. I want to see it... but I live in Bakersfield and we don't have any art movie theaters. Please someone go see it and let me know if it's good!
>
> L. Antonia Auriga
>

C. Petronius C. Catoni sal.,

> To decide what the ancients did or did not actually believe in their hearts is nonsense;

And so? I did not decide, but I am able to read.

Question: Are you naturally like that or you have had lessons?

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. X Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

Cato Modiano sal.

I agree entirely with you. This is *precisely* what I meant.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> I don't necessarily disagree with you. In sacramental theology within the
> Roman Catholic Church there is a degree of orthopraxy -- likely from their
> evolution from ancient Roman religion. For example, a priest need not
> be pious to affect the consecration of the Eucharist to assert such is
> Donatism. Likewise, in Catholic theology two things are needed matter and
> form along with intention. Faith is not an essential ingredient in the
> administration of sacraments; therefore, I follow your logic on the
> "Orthopraxic" nature of the Religio Romana -- it is similar to the Roman
> Catholic Church's understanding of sacramental theology. What would be
> required to conduct a "proper" ceremony of the Religio Romana would be the
> necessary "matter and form" followed by correct intention. "Faith" is not
> necessary BUT the intention makes it MORE than just a reenactment, and MIGHT
> be problematic for someone who belongs to a Monotheistic faith.
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Cato Modiano sal.
> >
> > Why does it require "devotion"? Can devotion only arise from religious
> > "belief"? What about saecular devotion to the State?
> >
> > Just because a religious ... zeal ... might not be present does not
> > preclude the idea that there is an understanding that, no matter what these
> > "rote gestures" might mean, they are an important part of the fabric of
> > public life - the belief that the precise and correct practice of the rites
> > and rituals are necessary for peace and prosperity, and that in itself is
> > enough; to paraphrase the words of another writer, it would be counted to
> > them as faith.
> >
> > By the way, I consider the fact that I have always felt and spoken this way
> > as a compliment rather than a deficiency :)
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve Auriga,
whatever the reviews say, go and see the film! Like other movies, it might
not be the epitome of historical correctness, but it's unfair to point this
out as a fault more than in the case of Hollywood movies like "Alexander" or
"300".

What's important is that the film is fun, never boring (more than can be
said for "Alexander", for example) and interesting. In fact what the
scriptwriters did was "adapt" the facts for the sake of getting a more
spectacular film: exactly what Americans do all the time. But apparently
when it's Europeans doing it, this is not acceptable in America.

Another adaptation was the fact that we don't see Hypatia being skinned
alive, as sources say happened, and I, for one, am happy about it, because I
don't like horror movies.

Optime vale,
Livia

Well 300 was based on a graphic novel a glorified comic book. ;) But if one
is going to see a movie to get their history...and get it accurate...that
simply is not going to work.

Even the best documentary barely brushes the surface...and the best
documentary I have seen is from the Smithsonian Channel on The
Hittites..narrated by Jeremy Irons...it is outstanding compared to the
documentaries on the History Channel and History Channel International.

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>wrote:

> Salve Auriga,
> whatever the reviews say, go and see the film! Like other movies, it might
> not be the epitome of historical correctness, but it's unfair to point this
> out as a fault more than in the case of Hollywood movies like "Alexander"
> or
> "300".
>
> What's important is that the film is fun, never boring (more than can be
> said for "Alexander", for example) and interesting. In fact what the
> scriptwriters did was "adapt" the facts for the sake of getting a more
> spectacular film: exactly what Americans do all the time. But apparently
> when it's Europeans doing it, this is not acceptable in America.
>
> Another adaptation was the fact that we don't see Hypatia being skinned
> alive, as sources say happened, and I, for one, am happy about it, because
> I
> don't like horror movies.
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.

It is with great pleasure that I express my wholehearted support for the
following candidates:

L. Julia Aquila for Curule Aedile. Her experience in marketing, public
relations, business and art seem to me to make her an excellent candidate,
and her wit, charm and enthusiasm will, I think add greatly to the efforts
of the Curule Aedilician cohors. I will vote for her, and I hope that you
will, as well.

Although neither Enodia or Aeternia have opposing candidates, I support
their candidacies for Plebeian Aedile and Rogator, respectively. I have
come to know both ladies, and I find them both capable, intelligent,
reasonable and willing to work hard in any tasks they take on. I believe
both will be a credit to the Res Publica, and am extremely happy to see both
seeking office here!

Respectfully,
Valete Bene,
C. Maria Caeca

Salvete! 
 
Oh! Thank you, Aeternia, for bringing me my pom-poms. How could I have forgotten them, tsk, tsk, tsk! *waves pom-poms and sips honey wine*
 
Our Master Commentator has still not returned, so from my front row seat, which, by the way, includes free wine, valet service for my horse and chariot, and a lovely awning overhead for shade - they really do think of everything here! :) ... but back to the arena antics of the day; here is the latest:
 
Bafana Bafana, our host team, sacked the Gauls 2-1 and did themselves proud even if they still ended up being eliminated. I waved my pom-poms at them as they marched out of the arena holding their heads high and rightly so. You know, I may hire one of those fellows to race my chariot in the next Ludi. Hmmm...
 
Aguirre's gladiators left befuddled at 0-2, but on account of Bafana Bafana being eliminated, they will stay to fight another day, but their next opponents will be one of the most formidable teams known in this arena. Ay caramba! I heard that Aguirre wisely hurried his gladiators straight to the altar of Concordia where they presented their offerings to Her - a plate of enchiladas from every player and lots of vino! (Hey, I would be pleased!)
 
And last news of the day - the Gauls are gone. Nuts... I knew I should have released that horde of barbarian bone-breaking iguanas sooner! 
 
Until tomorrow!
Valete bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
 


<<--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Tragedienne <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:

Salve,

Pssst! Maxima! *slips Fuzzy Blue Pom Pom*

Now you're representing :-)

Keep up the good work.

Vale,
Aeternia>>

>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salvete,
>  
> Our Master Commentator will hopefully return tomorrow. In the meantime, I will try and fill in for him.
>  
> As a Vestal, I get the best front row seats to everything (that's not a huge grin you see spreading on my face, no, no it's not!). From my vantage point, I am pleased to see that Concordia is smiling on Aguirre's gladiators as they prepare for the arena tomorrow. Gratias tibi ago, Great Goddess!
>  
> The Spaniards did us proud, 2 - 0, but Francia que te pasa? The Gauls seem to be laboring under some illusion that they are auditioning for "Mutiny on the Bounty". I think this Tribuna might have to remind them of the arena handbook rule # 1: "Thou shall train diligently when thou is told to! No excuses!" 
>  
> Perhaps it's time to unleash a horde of barbarian bone-breaking iguanas....
>  
>  
> Valete bene,
> Maxima Valeria Messallina 

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Caeca Messallinae Sal,

Um ...you might want to *look* at those pompoms, Dearie ...they turned white! Sparkling, shiny, glorious, *white*!

Vale quam Optime,
CMC, hiding behind ...oops, he *moved*!

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A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis
S.P.D.

Below I have copied some information sent to Latinitas in response to a
question regarding our Latin courses. I have removed material strictly
relating to the questioner, and modified some other portions as a result. I
am well along in the correction process of the exams in hand (not all of
them are in hand, and one part still must be written...), so we are ready to
expand on previous information. We welcome all willing students, with the
understanding that hard work is involved, and good behavior is expected.

=====

To reiterate, we teach Latin by two methods, traditional and
assimilation, and offer both beginning and intermediate courses therein.
Our courses are separate from the Wheelock site (and anything else), and not
all of them use the Wheelock text.  Those which use Wheelock are called
Grammatica Latina, which we teach at two levels, beginning and intermediate.
 Very few students enter the intermediate courses, but some who have
previous experience do qualify for that.  I would recommend Grammatica I
(Wheelock introductory) for most students; I have found that those who do
best in Sermo have already had a good background in Latin grammar, etc.,
whereas those who did not make a lot of grammatical errors.  Several of the
Sermo students are Latin teachers, which should tell you something.  

    As previously noted, the two Grammatica Latina courses use the Wheelock
text; students may supplement this with the workbook and / or the vocabulary
cards if desired.  In Level I, we cover Lessons 1-22, and have a midterm and
a final examination plus weekly homework.  In Level II, we cover Lessons
23-40, then proceed to some of the readings at the back of the book, which I
supplement with some from other sources.  Again, there is a midterm and a
final, and most of the homework is weekly, though some of the readings are
sufficiently challenging that I allow two weeks for them.  

    The Assimil courses, called Sermo Latinus (I, II, and I & II combined)
use the Clement Desessard version of the Assimil text; the French version is
entitled Le Latin Sans Peine.  There is also an Italian version.  Tapes or
CDs accompany both, and these are required for the course as well as the
text.  The French version (which is superior) was taken out of print two or
three years ago, but those with a fast connection can download it (and the
sound files) via file sharing programs or whatever.  The Italian version may
still be available in bookstores and online stores.  One must, however,
avoid the new version of Assimil, which does not teach spoken Latin and is
filled with grammatical and other errors.  Mme. Ducos-Filippi does not know
Latin as we understand it.  

    The Sermo courses are taught at a much faster pace than the Grammatica
ones; in the two separate courses, there is a new lesson every three days,
and in the even faster Combined class, a new lesson every other day.  Even
some of the Latin teachers find this a bit much.  However, their written
homework comes only after every seventh lesson, and is shorter than that
with Wheelock.  The midterm for Sermo I and the first test for the Combined
class (which has four tests) are not difficult, fill in the blanks in a
story, but the other examinations are rather more challenging, entirely in
Latin and requiring a fairly high level of competency.   Some assignments
and tests are done at least partially, even entirely, by sound only, so
those with hearing impairments may have problems.  On the other hand, one
student is Sermo is blind (so is one who has completed the first, separate,
semester of Grammatica I and will enter second semester), and I have had
some in Grammatica who are in wheelchairs, so those with similar impairments
should not have any problems based on that alone.

======

I have now completed the correction of most of the final exams
(Grammatica I and Sermo I, Sermo II, and the primary correction of Sermo I &
II combined), and have very nearly completed everything necessary for Sermo
I; grades have been reported for Sermo I, Grammatica I, and Sermo II. Site
preparation must be done before we can accept new students, and in Sermo,
the students must pick up their grades onsite, so we give them a few weeks
to do that. In the mean time, those wishing to take any of our courses
should obtain the respective texts and contact me when they have received
them. Our new teacher is in the process of being added to our sites, and we
should be able to add students in about a month.

Valete.






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L. Iulia Aquila C. Aquillio Rotae S.P.D.

Such an honor you bestow upon me! Thank you so much for your endorsement and vote! It is a pleasure working alongside those so committed to our provincia; your hard work motivates us all Governor. We are fortunate to have such a great Praetorium! Simul triumphamus!

Cura ut valeas optime!

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Aqvillivs" <c.aqvillivs_rota@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> Finally things start to get moving in Nova Roma. The train to reality is
> leaving the Station. I am currently
> working at some very real projects in America Austrorientalis.
> Procurator L.Iul. Aquila shows me her
> ambitions and enthusiasm about the hands on duties she currently
> fulfills.
> She is a talented and competent person with the spirit and energy of the
> Roman Eagle.
> With her experience in Marketing, Sales and within NR she is the ideal
> candidate for our new Curule Aedile!
>
> Her commitment to Nova Roma is full of hands on energy.......not just
> talk.!
>
> Under her hand we all can be sure that the Macellum gets fixed and
> running, we can be sure that our Ludi will become
> even more colorful and interesting as they already are, we can be sure
> that we all get a step closer to our dream.
>
> I fully stand for that dream and I, myself will vote with confidence for
> IVLIA AQVILA .... you should too.
>
> To all those among us who wish for more real action and who want to get
> real instead of a lot of talk in the spheres of
> virtualty ......... support our honorable IVLIA AQVILA and the train
> gathers speed.
>
> Gaius Aquillius Rota
> TRI. PLEBIS
> LEG.PR.PR.PROV.A-Ae
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ave Messalina,

I believe Rota is to market, to market:) In a heat wave at that! The excitement has even got me interested in more than the eye candy! *laughs*

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salvete! 
>  
> Oh! Thank you, Aeternia, for bringing me my pom-poms. How could I have forgotten them, tsk, tsk, tsk! *waves pom-poms and sips honey wine*
>  
> Our Master Commentator has still not returned, so from my front row seat, which, by the way, includes free wine, valet service for my horse and chariot, and a lovely awning overhead for shade - they really do think of everything here! :) ... but back to the arena antics of the day; here is the latest:
>  
> Bafana Bafana, our host team, sacked the Gauls 2-1 and did themselves proud even if they still ended up being eliminated. I waved my pom-poms at them as they marched out of the arena holding their heads high and rightly so. You know, I may hire one of those fellows to race my chariot in the next Ludi. Hmmm...
>  
> Aguirre's gladiators left befuddled at 0-2, but on account of Bafana Bafana being eliminated, they will stay to fight another day, but their next opponents will be one of the most formidable teams known in this arena. Ay caramba! I heard that Aguirre wisely hurried his gladiators straight to the altar of Concordia where they presented their offerings to Her - a plate of enchiladas from every player and lots of vino! (Hey, I would be pleased!)
>  
> And last news of the day - the Gauls are gone. Nuts... I knew I should have released that horde of barbarian bone-breaking iguanas sooner! 
>  
> Until tomorrow!
> Valete bene,
>  
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>  

C. Maria Caeca Omnibus S. P. D.

OK, I can't resist! I have been, and will be again, one of the Gramatica students ...and I cannot recommend these courses highly enough! they are comprehensive (oh, yeah), and extremely well taught. Taking them on is not for the faint of heart, although Magistra's red ink is, I think, immersed in smelling salts before application ...but she is a wonderful teacher, and her assistant is marvelous, patient, and both are long suffering. More to the point, the instruction you get is extremely good, and, I think, valuable for any citizen of Nova Roma ...so please seriously consider registering and taking one of these more than superb courses!

Valete quam optime,
C. Maria Caeca

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L. Iulia Aquila C. Mariae Caecae S.P.D

My heart is humbled by your kind words of support and the gift of your vote, multas gratias ab imo pectore. We work well together and this will not cease regardless of the outcome of the election – we are working towards our future doing our best to strengthen the res publica from within and living as Romans in the real world. People of such honor and dignity such as yourself Maria make the most difficult of tasks a pleasure.

Optime vale in cura deorum,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:
>
> C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.
>
> It is with great pleasure that I express my wholehearted support for the
> following candidates:
>
> L. Julia Aquila for Curule Aedile. Her experience in marketing, public
> relations, business and art seem to me to make her an excellent candidate,
> and her wit, charm and enthusiasm will, I think add greatly to the efforts
> of the Curule Aedilician cohors. I will vote for her, and I hope that you
> will, as well.
>
> Although neither Enodia or Aeternia have opposing candidates, I support
> their candidacies for Plebeian Aedile and Rogator, respectively. I have
> come to know both ladies, and I find them both capable, intelligent,
> reasonable and willing to work hard in any tasks they take on. I believe
> both will be a credit to the Res Publica, and am extremely happy to see both
> seeking office here!
>
> Respectfully,
> Valete Bene,
> C. Maria Caeca
>

>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Mariae Caecae quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque
> bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> C. Maria Caeca Omnibus S. P. D.
>
> OK, I can't resist! I have been, and will be again, one of the Gramatica
> students ...and I cannot recommend these courses highly enough!
>
> ATS: Why, thank you!
>
>
> they are comprehensive (oh, yeah), and extremely well taught.
>
> ATS: <blushes> Ingentes gratias tibi ago!
>
>
> Taking them on is not for the faint of heart, although Magistra's red ink is,
> I think, immersed in smelling salts before application
>
> ATS: Well, the red ink is applied as is, but maybe some of the papers are
> immersed in smelling salts as a precaution before being returned to the
> students. ;-) I have almost finished using red ink for this year, with just
> one exam and the review of another¹s corrections to go...
>
>
> ...but she is a wonderful teacher, and her assistant is marvelous, patient,
> and both are long suffering.
>
> ATS: Thank you. I think my assistant has been celebrating the winter
> solstice (yes, where he is, it is winter, and a whole 50 degrees F or so.
> Poor dear...). We will have a new teacher assisting with Sermo next year, and
> hope he will consent to add Rudimenta as well.
>
>
> More to the point, the instruction you get is extremely good, and, I think,
> valuable for any citizen of Nova Roma ...so please seriously consider
> registering and taking one of these more than superb courses!
>
> ATS: Et iterum! Thank you once again! Romans should show their
> fortitude and study Latin! Be brave! Latin grammar may look daunting, but by
> putting it to use, things will fall into place, and eventually they will sink
> in and become almost automatic. Even after one year, successful students
> should be able to read some Latin texts, and before the end of Grammatica II,
> we read bits of unaltered Caesar and Cicero, inter alios. The Sermo courses
> teach spoken modern Latin as well as the more conventional variety, and
> greatly enhance the fluency of those who have already had some Latin.
>
> Valete quam optime,
> C. Maria Caeca
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Salvete,

Fortunately, the Gauls left the World's Cup and its mind control and its immoral money public expenditure. Thank you, Minerva! Now, in France we will be interested by more politic and social questions.

Tomorrow great strike and manifestations to save our retirement system.

Valete.
--
C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a.d. IX Kal. Quint. P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.


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To save your retirement system? LOL...That makes no economic sense....lets
strike to save our retirement.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Gaius Petronius Dexter <jfarnoud94@...

> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete,
>
> Fortunately, the Gauls left the World's Cup and its mind control and its
> immoral money public expenditure. Thank you, Minerva! Now, in France we will
> be interested by more politic and social questions.
>
> Tomorrow great strike and manifestations to save our retirement system.
>
> Valete.
> --
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> a.d. IX Kal. Quint. P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Ave Sulla,

You are a funny boy and you laugh on all, but people is the only true economic sense... the financial and virtual economic is over.

Tomorrow strike with real people.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

L. Iulia Aquila Omnibus in Foro SPD


There is so much work ahead of all us in the res publica and working with a motivated team devoted to Nova Roma will put her on the right track.
It won't be accomplished overnight and will be task of many working together; a concerted effort will ensure more upward steps towards the dreams of our citizens.
There are many citizens of honor and high dignitas in Nova Roma and they deserve magistrates that work hard alongside them.
While it is important to learn from those who have been here and built Nova Roma's foundation, it is also of import to get fresh perspectives, new ideas and include new blood in the strengthening of our res publica.

There are so many citizens who have asked for the opportunity to make a difference, both new and well established citizens, and the cohors must be made up of these citizens. These are the concerned and hardworking citizens and ex magistrates who will put forth a team effort to work towards making the Macellum a successful initiative, to review and honor the Magna Mater in such a way that will satisfy the legalities of the U.S. non-profit status and the Italian government and breathing life into the Aedilician Fund.
This will not happen over night but with all of us working together we can get a strong foothold.
From personal experience in Consular, Praetorial, Aedilician and Praetorian Cohors, including countless discussions and work with various magistrates and citizens there is an astute realization that this work will take objective analysis, creativity, negotiation, compromise and problem solving regarding these important initiatives to move them forward.
It can be done – we all need to step back from the animosities of the past because there are good points and suggestions coming from all directions and the "old guard" will be included in this work because of their valuable experience.
The work done in the Aedilician cohors will be fashioned through teamwork to continue from one administration to the other – there will be no glory for one administration – the glory will be where it should be, in Nova Roma.

Rather than viewing Nova Roma as having "two sides" it will serve us better to liken our fellow citizens to a huge multidimensional, multisided polyhedron and recognize that there are many different viewpoints that will birth a plethora of many different suggestions and solutions towards the success of our Res publica.
Let us all get over these old obstacles and move forward.
Let us nurture the untapped resources in our citizenry.
Let us give an opportunity to those who have not had one in the past.

Manus labor quam optime
Teamwork at its best

Many ideas have been verbalized for the Games, the Ludi, which will continue to foster camaraderie amongst us all. There are plans for a successful North American Conventus – this too will take a team effort. Novi Romani will warm up virtually with the Ludi and then take to the streets live for some real time interaction as Romans interacting as Romans.

Please cast your vote for L. Iulia Aquila for Curule Aedile
Vivat Res Publica Nostra Prosperrime!


Optime valete atque di vos incolumes custodiant,

L. Julia Aquila

Ave!

Thank you for appreciating my sense of humor, but in the matter of
economics, and with the value of money....the concept of striking in order
to protect the continued expenditure of state funds actually makes the
financial situation worse because you strike, thus no money is being
generated...thus the government is unable to collect those funds
necessary....and thus in the big circular relationship actually makes the
problem worse. Economically speaking. But, hey, let's not let logic get in
the way of feelgoodism.

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:41 PM, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...>wrote:

>
>
> Ave Sulla,
>
> You are a funny boy and you laugh on all, but people is the only true
> economic sense... the financial and virtual economic is over.
>
> Tomorrow strike with real people.
>
> Vale.
>
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
>


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Aeternia Caecae sal,

Thank you Good Madam Caeca, for your words of encouragement and that of
support, it means a great deal to me.

I'd like to take this moment to wish all of the candidates in the upcoming
election, good luck and great outcomes.

May fortune favor the bold, and I think everyone deserves some chocolate
huzzah!


Vale Optime,
Aeternia

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:51 PM, C.Maria Caeca <c.mariacaeca@...>wrote:

>
>
> C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.
>
> It is with great pleasure that I express my wholehearted support for the
> following candidates:
>
> L. Julia Aquila for Curule Aedile. Her experience in marketing, public
> relations, business and art seem to me to make her an excellent candidate,
> and her wit, charm and enthusiasm will, I think add greatly to the efforts
> of the Curule Aedilician cohors. I will vote for her, and I hope that you
> will, as well.
>
> Although neither Enodia or Aeternia have opposing candidates, I support
> their candidacies for Plebeian Aedile and Rogator, respectively. I have
> come to know both ladies, and I find them both capable, intelligent,
> reasonable and willing to work hard in any tasks they take on. I believe
> both will be a credit to the Res Publica, and am extremely happy to see
> both
> seeking office here!
>
> Respectfully,
> Valete Bene,
> C. Maria Caeca
>
>
>


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Salve, all!

I for one care little for reviewers... I had hoped not to get something terrible like a romance when there is none. I am sure religion had a lot to do with the movie's acceptance here in the states. Having interned in the industry, I know it is hard to find distribution for something that... goes THERE. I hope I can see it before it leaves the theaters. I don't mind the 2.5 hour drive to get back to my parents' house where it opened last weekend. (Free food and quarters are nice, too!)

Here is one thing intersting- I for entertainment's sake I love 300. What is neat, that no one seems to know since so many write it off so quickly, is that the graphic novel's writer and its artist based their work on how the Greeks portrayed themselves in their art and especially pottery. While real warriors would no doubt have the sense to wear armor, so many of their representations of their heroes, etc. do not wear much of anything, hence the 'Sparkini' of the film. I hear there's a pre-/se-quel in the works, either about Marathon or the sea battle that most everyone forgets. I eagerly await, but my hopes aren't too high.

Thanks for the input!

Vale,

L. Antonia Auriga

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Auriga,
> whatever the reviews say, go and see the film! Like other movies, it might
> not be the epitome of historical correctness, but it's unfair to point this
> out as a fault more than in the case of Hollywood movies like "Alexander" or
> "300".
>
> What's important is that the film is fun, never boring (more than can be
> said for "Alexander", for example) and interesting. In fact what the
> scriptwriters did was "adapt" the facts for the sake of getting a more
> spectacular film: exactly what Americans do all the time. But apparently
> when it's Europeans doing it, this is not acceptable in America.
>
> Another adaptation was the fact that we don't see Hypatia being skinned
> alive, as sources say happened, and I, for one, am happy about it, because I
> don't like horror movies.
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>

Q Caecilius Metellus L Cornelio Sullae Felici Senatori Censorio salutem dicit.

Salue, Senator Sulla.

While I do not speak for the rest of the College of Pontiffs, your
question deserves an answer, at least as a concerned citizen, and even
more so as a Senator. I will give you such an answer.

In the first place, it is no unknown fact that not only do I not
support, but I even outright oppose, the political and religious
agenda of a number of the members of the College of Pontiffs, most
notably M Moravius, K Buteo Modianus, and M Hortensia. I am not quiet
about this fact; as a citizen, I exercise my right both to disagree
and to voice my disagreement in the various fora which we use.
Because of this, I am the vocal representation of the opposition to
the majority of the College. As a part of the opposition, the opinion
seems to be that I should not remain a pontifex, since I will not
publicly support the positions of the College (and will, in fact,
publicly oppose) when I disagreed with them privately.

Secondly, the fact that I am not a god, but as quite a significant
number of mortals do, I suffer from depression and attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder, and do not hide this, make me unfit for office
(despite the fact that such a man as Abraham Lincoln suffered from the
same combination, among a very, very long list of others). Even more
to the point, the fact that I see it fit for me to make the People
aware of the facts that, as I said, "I believe very firmly that it is
made exceptionally more difficult to help someone in a situation in
which you have not yourself been", and "not only that I am human, not
only that I have been there, but that I truly understand", and that "I
am not from the government, but I am here to help."

Third is the fact that I, in August, took M Hortensia to task for her
continued cherry-picking and, in stark contradiction to her recent
post, posting things from elsewhere to this list, out of context and
without proper reference, and did not do so in light words. Again,
more to the point, the fact that I refuse to apologise for what I
said, the words I chose, and the fact for publicly insulting a
priestess, make me worthy of being stripped of my office.

Fourth is the fact that I have brought charges against M Hortensia for
abuse of her magisterial office while Praetor. This, supposedly, I
should not have done, since a member of the College of Pontiffs should
not do such a thing to another, despite the fact that K Buteo Modianus
brought charges against L Equitius Cincinnatus Augur, Senator
Censorius, and despite the fact that M Moravius brought charges as
well against M Cassius Julianus, also Senator Censorius and Pater
Patriae.

Ultimately, Senator, this is a matter of politics. If the College
chooses to eject me, it will have only demonstrated that it is more
interested in politics than in pursuing an accurate (in as much as is
reasonably feasible) and living reconstruction of the Ancient Roman
Cultus Deorum. They will have set into more obvious motion the
process of hunting and removing any opposition, much the same way the
National Socialist party did in Germany throughout the 1920's and
1930's. They will have shown that being a pontifex is less about
merit, less about ability and capability, less about the performance
of one's duties each of to the State, to the individuals, and to the
Gods, and that it is more about being in full political and religious
agreement with the party in the majority. Most importantly to me,
they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a faithful,
practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold those
religious offices in Nova Roma.

If I have failed to answer your question, Senator, please let me know,
and I will be honoured to detail more, but in only the briefest form,
these are the reasons my removal from priestly office is sought by M
Moravius, M Hortensia, and K Buteo Modianus.

Naturally, whether I am removed or not, I still remain at the disposal
of the People. The fact that I am a priest will not change; I simply
will no longer have the sanction of the political majority.

Vale Bene,

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
Pontifex

Salve Auriga,
I'm afraid I have to warn you about romance ... They slipped in some, though
it's very one-sided. Don't let this prevent you from watching the film.
Vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "fauxrari" <drivergirl@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:38 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: 'Agora' finally in theaters!


Salve, all!

I for one care little for reviewers... I had hoped not to get something
terrible like a romance when there is none. I am sure religion had a lot to
do with the movie's acceptance here in the states. Having interned in the
industry, I know it is hard to find distribution for something that... goes
THERE. I hope I can see it before it leaves the theaters. I don't mind the
2.5 hour drive to get back to my parents' house where it opened last
weekend. (Free food and quarters are nice, too!)

Here is one thing intersting- I for entertainment's sake I love 300. What is
neat, that no one seems to know since so many write it off so quickly, is
that the graphic novel's writer and its artist based their work on how the
Greeks portrayed themselves in their art and especially pottery. While real
warriors would no doubt have the sense to wear armor, so many of their
representations of their heroes, etc. do not wear much of anything, hence
the 'Sparkini' of the film. I hear there's a pre-/se-quel in the works,
either about Marathon or the sea battle that most everyone forgets. I
eagerly await, but my hopes aren't too high.

Thanks for the input!

Vale,

L. Antonia Auriga
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...>
wrote:
>
> Salve Auriga,
> whatever the reviews say, go and see the film! Like other movies, it might
> not be the epitome of historical correctness, but it's unfair to point
> this
> out as a fault more than in the case of Hollywood movies like "Alexander"
> or
> "300".
>
> What's important is that the film is fun, never boring (more than can be
> said for "Alexander", for example) and interesting. In fact what the
> scriptwriters did was "adapt" the facts for the sake of getting a more
> spectacular film: exactly what Americans do all the time. But apparently
> when it's Europeans doing it, this is not acceptable in America.
>
> Another adaptation was the fact that we don't see Hypatia being skinned
> alive, as sources say happened, and I, for one, am happy about it, because
> I
> don't like horror movies.
>
> Optime vale,
> Livia
>

M. Moravius Piscinus cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salutem plurimam dicit: Diis bene iuvantibus sumus.

Hodie est ante diem IX Kalendas Quinctilias; haec dies comitialis est:

AUC 536 / 217 BCE: Religious ceremonies held in wake of the disaster at Lake Transimene

"After these resolutions had been passed in the Senate the praetor consulted the Collegium Pontificum as to the proper means of giving effect to them, and L. Cornelius Lentulus, the Pontifex Maximus, decided that the very first step to take was to refer to the people the question of a Ver Sacrum (Sacred Spring), as this particular form of vow could not be undertaken without the order of the people. The form of procedure was as follows: "Is it," the praetor asked the Assembly, "your will and pleasure that all be done and performed in manner following? That is to say, if the commonwealth of the Romans and the Quirites be preserved, as I pray it may be, safe and sound through these present wars - to wit, the war between Rome and Carthage and the wars with the Gauls now dwelling on the hither side of the Alps - then shall the Romans and Quirites present as an offering whatever the spring shall produce from their flocks and herds, whether it be from swine or sheep or goats or cattle, and all that is not already devoted to any other deity shall be consecrated to Jupiter from such time as the Senate and people shall order. Whosoever shall make an offering let him do it at whatsoever time and in whatsoever manner he will, and howsoever he offers it, it shall be accounted to be duly offered. If the animal which should have been sacrificed die, it shall be as though unconsecrated, there shall be no sin. If any man shall hurt or slay a consecrated thing unwittingly he shall not be held guilty. If a man shall have stolen any such animal, the people shall not bear the guilt, nor he from whom it was stolen. If a man offer his sacrifice unwittingly on a forbidden day, it shall be accounted to be duly offered. Whether he do so by night or day, whether he be slave or freeman, it shall be accounted to be duly offered. If any sacrifice be offered before the Senate and people have ordered that it shall be done, the people shall be free and absolved from all guilt there from." To the same end the Ludi Romani were vowed at a cost of 333,333 1/3 ases, and in addition 300 oxen to Jupiter, and white oxen and the other customary victims to a number of deities. When the vows had been duly pronounced a litany of intercession was ordered, and not only the population of the City but the people from the country districts, whose private interests were being affected by the public distress, went in procession with their wives and children. Then a lectisternium was held for three days under the supervision of the Decemviri sacris faciundis. Six couches were publicly exhibited; one for Jupiter and Juno, another for Neptune and Minerva, a third for Mars and Venus, a fourth for Apollo and Diana, a fifth for Vulcan and Vesta, and the sixth for Mercury and Ceres. This was followed by the vowing of temples. Q. Fabius Maximus, as Dictator, vowed the temple to Venus Erycina, because it was laid down in the Sibylline Oracles that this vow should be made by the man who possessed the supreme authority in the State. T. Otacilius, the praetor, vowed the temple to Mens." ~ Titus Livius 22.10


AUC 585 / 168 BCE: After the Battle of Pydna

"Perseus fled to the Pierian forest, accompanied by his suite and a numerous body of cavalry. When he had entered the forest at a point where several roads diverged, as night was approaching he struck into a side-path with a very small body of those most faithful to him. The cavalry, left without a leader, dispersed to their various cities; and a few reached Pella in advance of Perseus himself, having gone by a straight road. Up to midnight the king had considerable trouble and anxiety in trying to find his way. Eulacus and Euctus and the royal pages were ready to meet the king in the gloomy palace, but of all his friends who had lived through the battle and regained Pella, not one came to him in spite of his repeated invitations. There were only three who shared his flight, Euander of Crete, Neo a Boeotian, and Archidamus the Aetolian. Fearing that those who refused to go to him might soon venture upon a more serious step, he fled away at the fourth watch, followed by certainly not more than 500 Cretans. He was intending to go to Amphipolis, but he had left Pella in the night, anxious to cross the Axius before daylight, as he thought the difficulty of crossing that river might stop the Roman pursuit.

"The news of the battle had already been carried to Amphipolis, and the matrons flocked to the temple of Diana Tauropolon to invoke her aid.

"On his return to camp the consul's joy in his victory was damped by his anxiety about his younger son. This was P. Scipio, who had been adopted as grandson by Scipio Africanus, and himself received the title of Africanus, from the destruction of Carthage in after years. He was only seventeen at the time-a further cause for anxiety-and while he was in full pursuit of the enemy, he was carried away by the press into another part of the field. On his return late in the day to the camp, his father, finding him safe and sound, could at last feel unmixed joy in his great victory." ~ Titus Livius 44.43-44


AUC 706 / 47 BCE: Birth of Ptolemy XV Philopator Philometor (Caesarion), son of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar.


The Five Torches of a Wedding Party

"Why in the marriage rites do they light five torches, neither more nor less, which they call cereones? Is it, as Varro has stated, that while the praetors use three, the aediles have a right to more, and it is from the aediles that the wedding party light their torches? Or is it because in their use of several numbers the odd number was considered better and more perfect for various purposes and also better adapted to marriage? For the even number admits division and its equality of division suggests strife and opposition; the odd number, however, cannot be divided into equal parts at all, but whenever it is divided it always leaves behind a remainder of the same nature as itself. Now, of the odd numbers, five is above all the nuptial number; for three is the first odd number, and two is the first even number, and five is composed of the union of these two, as it were of male and female. Or is it rather that, since light is the symbol of birth, and women in general are enabled by nature to bear, at the most, five children at one birth, the wedding company makes use of exactly that number of torches? Or is it because they think that the nuptial pair has need of five deities? Zeus Teleios, Hera Teleia, Aphrodite, Peitho, and finally Artemis, whom women in childbirth and travail are wont to invoke?" ~ Plutarch, Roman Questions 2:


Our thought for today comes from Epicurus, Vatican Saying 6:

It is impossible for a man who secretly violates the terms of the agreement not to harm or be harmed to feel confident that he will remain undiscovered, even if he has already escaped ten thousand times; for until his death he is never sure that he will not be detected.

Maxima Valeria Messallina omnibus S.P.D.
 
Citizens, tomorrow voting begins in both the Comitia Plebis Tributa and the Comitia Populi Tributa and I would like to take a moment to encourage everyone to please vote! Thank you.
 
Now, at this time, I want to give my endorsement, wholeheartedly, to Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria for Aedilis Plebis and not because she is the only candidate, but because I feel she will do a fine job. Even if there were other candidates, I would still endorse her.
The same is true for Raina Cornelia Aeternia. I know she will make a fine rogator.
I do, also, give my support to Quintus Servilius Priscus for quaestor.
 
There are two candidates standing for the office of Aedilis Curulis. There is no question in my mind who is the better candidate and that is Lucia Iulia Aquila. Testament to her true Romanitas was clearly seen earlier this year when the Senate appointed her to the office of Aedilis Curulis by the use of a SCU. However, Iulia Aquila, with sincere appreciation for the confidence the majority of the Senate had shown her, respectfully and rightly declined the appointment. Now, she stands for that office again to let the Citizens make known their will in a proper election. I give her my wholehearted endorsement and full support. I know Iulia Aquila will do splendid things for Nova Roma as Aedilis Curulis!
 
Valete bene in pace Deorum,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
Sacerdos Vestalis
Virgo Maxima
Tribuna Plebis




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Omnibus socceris s.d.



Once again, the U.S. soccer team just gave a demonstration of Roman virtues applied to soccer, scoring by Donovan in the additional time after half a dozen unsuccessful attempts, and while it was eliminated at this time.



Disciplina, solidarity, playing for the team, will and never renouncing fighting until the end. The whole contrary of French team. Here is soccer how we wish teaching it to our children (for those who are fed up with so-called 'football' ;-), basket and base-ball! ;-) ).



My sincere thanks and homages to the U.S. team, which other squadrons must count with for the 1/8th!





Valete omnes fans,





P. Memmius Albucius







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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus S.P.D.

I also give my endorsement to Lucia Iulia Aquila for Aedilis Curulis. I
have followed her involvement in Nova Roma and have been impressed by her
dedication and abilities. I cannot recommend her highly enough.

Valete;

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Maxima Valeria Messallina <
maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina omnibus S.P.D.
>
> Citizens, tomorrow voting begins in both the Comitia Plebis Tributa and the
> Comitia Populi Tributa and I would like to take a moment to encourage
> everyone to please vote! Thank you.
>
> Now, at this time, I want to give my endorsement, wholeheartedly, to Vibia
> Rutilia Enodiaria for Aedilis Plebis and not because she is the only
> candidate, but because I feel she will do a fine job. Even if there were
> other candidates, I would still endorse her.
> The same is true for Raina Cornelia Aeternia. I know she will make a fine
> rogator.
> I do, also, give my support to Quintus Servilius Priscus for quaestor.
>
> There are two candidates standing for the office of Aedilis Curulis. There
> is no question in my mind who is the better candidate and that is Lucia
> Iulia Aquila. Testament to her true Romanitas was clearly seen earlier this
> year when the Senate appointed her to the office of Aedilis Curulis by the
> use of a SCU. However, Iulia Aquila, with sincere appreciation for the
> confidence the majority of the Senate had shown her, respectfully and
> rightly declined the appointment. Now, she stands for that office again to
> let the Citizens make known their will in a proper election. I give her my
> wholehearted endorsement and full support. I know Iulia Aquila will do
> splendid things for Nova Roma as Aedilis Curulis!
>
> Valete bene in pace Deorum,
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
> Sacerdos Vestalis
> Virgo Maxima
> Tribuna Plebis
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Ave,

I give my endorsement to Senator Gaius Equitius Cato! I believe he would
make a great CA. Just as he was an outstanding Praetor. His knowledge,
experience and drive would be an asset to any organization. His persistence
to do what is right, the face of opposition would be an asset to Nova Roma
and he would be able to carry on the excellent work of Senator Gnaeus Iulius
Caesar!

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


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Salvete!
 
Thank you, Iulia, for letting me know of Rota's whereabouts. I hope he gets some duck tape so we can tie up these blasted officials!
 
Oh, Caeca, dear, of course there is white in my blue pom-poms and a little red, too. I'm waving them to cheer the USA in their victory 1-0 over their worthy opponents from Algeria, a most interesting pairing. Of course, that should have been 2-0! I'm also about ready to use my pom-poms to bop the next referee who makes some idiotic call. One more bit of nonsense from that lot and I will sic the horde of barbarian bone-breaking iguanas on them!
 
I heard a rumor that those Brits would like to have someone of Pompeo Batoni's talent to paint portraits of them, swords drawn and in tartan togas, before the Colosseum and perhaps a statue of the Goddess Roma at their sides, but they settled instead for a little face-saving 1-0 against Slovenia, but woe, woe, poor Greece 0-2 against the onslaught of the Argentinians! I shudder at the thought that Aguirre's gladiators face them next. Think I will head on over to Concordia's alter now...
 
Valete bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 


<<--- On Tue, 6/22/10, luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
Ave Messalina,

I believe Rota is to market, to market:) In a heat wave at that! The excitement has even got me interested in more than the eye candy! *laughs*

Vale optime,

Julia>>




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C. Petronius L. Sullae sal.,

> I give my endorsement to Senator Gaius Equitius Cato!
> I believe he would make a great CA.

Really, boy, you have a great sense of humour.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

What no response to my email yesterday with the economics lesson? ;)

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:45 AM, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...>wrote:

>
>
> C. Petronius L. Sullae sal.,
>
>
> > I give my endorsement to Senator Gaius Equitius Cato!
> > I believe he would make a great CA.
>
> Really, boy, you have a great sense of humour.
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
>


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Cato Quinto Caecilio Metello Postumiano Pio sal.

You wrote:

"They will have shown that being a pontifex ... is more about being in full political and religious agreement with the party in the majority. Most importantly to me, they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a faithful, practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold those religious offices in Nova Roma."

This is blatantly obvious in that a priestess who was thrown out of her priesthood and declared "nefas" - sinful, unworthy, unclean - and banned *for life* from holding another priesthood in Nova Roma ... is now one of the members of the College of Pontiffs who is clamoring for your expulsion - our very own Maior.

It is blatantly obvious in that in "The Roman Questions", it is asked

"Why is it that, if any one of the other priests is condemned and exiled, they depose him and elect another, but the augur, as long as he lives, even if they find him guilty of the worst offenses, they do not deprive of his priesthood? They call "augurs" the men who are in charge of the omens." (Plutarch, Roman Questions 99)

And yet an augur (Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur) was stripped of his priesthood because of political animosity - in direct contradiction to ancient practice.

And the list goes on. So much for faithful "living reconstruction".

Vale,

Cato

That was truly beautiful! Thank you so very much for honoring us with more of your fine poetry. I hope you posted this to the Muses list, too. (You probably did, but my inbox is such a mess right now.)
And thank you for making Father's Day a little easier to bear. I miss my Dad so much, but I know he's in a good place.
 
Vale bene in pace Deorum,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 


<<--- On Sun, 6/20/10, Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator <famila.ulleria.venii@...> wrote:

Salvete Omnes;

As this is a day where thinking of what one's father means is
emphasized, I did so...

Valete - Venator

--------------------------------------------

My Fathers’ Son

I am in truth my fathers’ son
Born of a long and storied line
Not one of whom was grand or famed
But all became the man I am

In life they strived to build their weal
To help their own, to ward their homes
In life they strived for Kin and kith
That Worth might come and make their name

We find that we have many roles
Which come to us within our years
Child, sibling, partner, parent
Friend or foe, teacher or taught

Upon my hand there is a ring
White gold it is, plain thin and old
It sat upon my father’s hand
A sign of Troth when he was wed

He was a man who seldom spoke
But words he gave were rich and wise
He was a man who seemed withdrawn
But gave of self when need was there

His work was hard, his days were long
But seldom did he stay away
From home and hearth, from wife and kids
He knew his place was in our lives

And as years passed, the world did change
But not his care for family
Nor for his friends, or for his deeds
As he worked in community

He lived to see his children wed
Some well, some not, but all survived
And from this he saw grandchildren
To carry on the long Kin-line

And at the end of all his years
When illness laid him weak and low
He took the hit, but carried on
And sang his last few days away

And as we stood on sacred grounds
Where kin-bones slept beneath the sod
And as we laid him in his grave
My thoughts flew high, and far and wide

I looked to hills he loved to roam
Beneath the trees beside the stream
A place he shared with many boys
My sib and I foremost of these

So long old scout, your time has come
To walk those trails, unseen, unknown
Beyond the bounds of daily life
A new frontier to seek and see

I am in truth my fathers’ son
Born of a long and storied line
Not one of whom was grand or famed
But all became the man I am

In life they strived to build their weal
To help their own, to ward their home
In life they strived for Kin and kith
That Worth might come and make their name>>




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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit

Have you forgotten that Cato was an Aedile back when I was consul? Why not
discuss the "outstanding" job he did when in office back then -- not saying
he did a bad job, but why not highlight his experience as Aedile? You've
been around since the "old days," surely you remember when he was Aedile.

Vale;

Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...

> wrote:

>
>
> Ave,
>
>
> I give my endorsement to Senator Gaius Equitius Cato! I believe he would
> make a great CA. Just as he was an outstanding Praetor. His knowledge,
> experience and drive would be an asset to any organization. His persistence
> to do what is right, the face of opposition would be an asset to Nova Roma
> and he would be able to carry on the excellent work of Senator Gnaeus
> Iulius
> Caesar!
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>

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Ave!

I just gotta know, are the members of the CP Quislings who do the bidding of
their masters?

I know Hortensia Maior is....Piscinus flat out admitted it. Hehe, that is
why Tink said to Piscinus he needs to get better minons! LOL

I am positively confident that Caeso Fabius is another Quisling.

*I know Q. Fabius is not.*

But just how many in the CP are Quislings? I guess we will see if the CP is
as utterly corrupt as Piscinus is...or if the CP is worthy of an ounce of
respect.

And if anyone doesn't know what a Quisling is - here is a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:

>
>
> Cato Quinto Caecilio Metello Postumiano Pio sal.
>
> You wrote:
>
> "They will have shown that being a pontifex ... is more about being in full
> political and religious agreement with the party in the majority. Most
> importantly to me, they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a
> faithful, practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold
> those religious offices in Nova Roma."
>
> This is blatantly obvious in that a priestess who was thrown out of her
> priesthood and declared "nefas" - sinful, unworthy, unclean - and banned
> *for life* from holding another priesthood in Nova Roma ... is now one of
> the members of the College of Pontiffs who is clamoring for your expulsion -
> our very own Maior.
>
> It is blatantly obvious in that in "The Roman Questions", it is asked
>
> "Why is it that, if any one of the other priests is condemned and exiled,
> they depose him and elect another, but the augur, as long as he lives, even
> if they find him guilty of the worst offenses, they do not deprive of his
> priesthood? They call "augurs" the men who are in charge of the omens."
> (Plutarch, Roman Questions 99)
>
> And yet an augur (Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur) was stripped of his
> priesthood because of political animosity - in direct contradiction to
> ancient practice.
>
> And the list goes on. So much for faithful "living reconstruction".
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>


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I was absent when you were Consul, Thank G-d!

Vale,

Sulla

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
>
> Have you forgotten that Cato was an Aedile back when I was consul? Why not
> discuss the "outstanding" job he did when in office back then -- not saying
> he did a bad job, but why not highlight his experience as Aedile? You've
> been around since the "old days," surely you remember when he was Aedile.
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Robert Woolwine <
> robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ave,
> >
> >
> > I give my endorsement to Senator Gaius Equitius Cato! I believe he would
> > make a great CA. Just as he was an outstanding Praetor. His knowledge,
> > experience and drive would be an asset to any organization. His
> persistence
> > to do what is right, the face of opposition would be an asset to Nova
> Roma
> > and he would be able to carry on the excellent work of Senator Gnaeus
> > Iulius
> > Caesar!
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit

Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus chose to leave Nova Roma. He also chose to
ignore a legal case against him. How that case was handled is out of my
control, and even though he left Nova Roma I still feel that justice was not
done because I was never allowed to "face him" in court. I only wanted
access to the Collegium Augurum list and for the Collegium Augurum to
function. Cincinnatus kept impeeding that. Instead of seeing it as it was
you continue to bring him up as a martyr. He was and is no martyr.

Vale;

Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:

>
>
> Cato Quinto Caecilio Metello Postumiano Pio sal.
>
> You wrote:
>
> "They will have shown that being a pontifex ... is more about being in full
> political and religious agreement with the party in the majority. Most
> importantly to me, they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a
> faithful, practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold
> those religious offices in Nova Roma."
>
> This is blatantly obvious in that a priestess who was thrown out of her
> priesthood and declared "nefas" - sinful, unworthy, unclean - and banned
> *for life* from holding another priesthood in Nova Roma ... is now one of
> the members of the College of Pontiffs who is clamoring for your expulsion -
> our very own Maior.
>
> It is blatantly obvious in that in "The Roman Questions", it is asked
>
> "Why is it that, if any one of the other priests is condemned and exiled,
> they depose him and elect another, but the augur, as long as he lives, even
> if they find him guilty of the worst offenses, they do not deprive of his
> priesthood? They call "augurs" the men who are in charge of the omens."
> (Plutarch, Roman Questions 99)
>
> And yet an augur (Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur) was stripped of his
> priesthood because of political animosity - in direct contradiction to
> ancient practice.
>
> And the list goes on. So much for faithful "living reconstruction".
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>


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He owned the list. It was his property. Just like the BA is Fabius's and
My list.He could do with it exactly as he pleased. If he did not want you
on his list, that is his prerogative.

Vale,

Sulla

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:04 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus chose to leave Nova Roma. He also chose to
> ignore a legal case against him. How that case was handled is out of my
> control, and even though he left Nova Roma I still feel that justice was
> not
> done because I was never allowed to "face him" in court. I only wanted
> access to the Collegium Augurum list and for the Collegium Augurum to
> function. Cincinnatus kept impeeding that. Instead of seeing it as it was
> you continue to bring him up as a martyr. He was and is no martyr.
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Cato <catoinnyc@...<catoinnyc%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Cato Quinto Caecilio Metello Postumiano Pio sal.
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > "They will have shown that being a pontifex ... is more about being in
> full
> > political and religious agreement with the party in the majority. Most
> > importantly to me, they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a
> > faithful, practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold
> > those religious offices in Nova Roma."
> >
> > This is blatantly obvious in that a priestess who was thrown out of her
> > priesthood and declared "nefas" - sinful, unworthy, unclean - and banned
> > *for life* from holding another priesthood in Nova Roma ... is now one of
> > the members of the College of Pontiffs who is clamoring for your
> expulsion -
> > our very own Maior.
> >
> > It is blatantly obvious in that in "The Roman Questions", it is asked
> >
> > "Why is it that, if any one of the other priests is condemned and exiled,
> > they depose him and elect another, but the augur, as long as he lives,
> even
> > if they find him guilty of the worst offenses, they do not deprive of his
> > priesthood? They call "augurs" the men who are in charge of the omens."
> > (Plutarch, Roman Questions 99)
> >
> > And yet an augur (Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur) was stripped of his
> > priesthood because of political animosity - in direct contradiction to
> > ancient practice.
> >
> > And the list goes on. So much for faithful "living reconstruction".
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit

I don't know what your fascination is with Nazi Germany, or why you insist
on referring to everyone you disagree with in a Naziesque fashion but I am
no "Quisling." To Piscinus or anyone else. I find these sorts of attacks
and accusations pointless and ill conceived.

Vale;

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...>wrote:

> Ave!
>
> I just gotta know, are the members of the CP Quislings who do the bidding
> of
> their masters?
>
> I know Hortensia Maior is....Piscinus flat out admitted it. Hehe, that is
> why Tink said to Piscinus he needs to get better minons! LOL
>
> I am positively confident that Caeso Fabius is another Quisling.
>
> *I know Q. Fabius is not.*
>
> But just how many in the CP are Quislings? I guess we will see if the CP is
> as utterly corrupt as Piscinus is...or if the CP is worthy of an ounce of
> respect.
>
> And if anyone doesn't know what a Quisling is - here is a link:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>

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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit

That is utter absurdity! I own the Senate list, as censor. Does that give
me the right and prerogative to delete the list if I so choose? Absolutely
not. Likewise, I tried removing you from the senate list, since you were
not a senator, and you threatened a law suit -- and once the new censores
took office you where brought back. *sigh* practice what you preach... for
once! Please. Stop calling people like Marca Hortensia Maior a hypocrite
when you yourself are doing exactly the same thing!

Vale;

Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...>wrote:

> He owned the list. It was his property. Just like the BA is Fabius's and
> My list.He could do with it exactly as he pleased. If he did not want you
> on his list, that is his prerogative.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla

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So say's the individual who said roughly, that you will oppose anything by
Metellus (regardless of Merit) for the sole purpose that it was proposed by
Metellus.

Vale,

Sulla

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
>
> I don't know what your fascination is with Nazi Germany, or why you insist
> on referring to everyone you disagree with in a Naziesque fashion but I am
> no "Quisling." To Piscinus or anyone else. I find these sorts of attacks
> and accusations pointless and ill conceived.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Robert Woolwine
> <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>>wrote:
>
>
> > Ave!
> >
> > I just gotta know, are the members of the CP Quislings who do the bidding
> > of
> > their masters?
> >
> > I know Hortensia Maior is....Piscinus flat out admitted it. Hehe, that is
> > why Tink said to Piscinus he needs to get better minons! LOL
> >
> > I am positively confident that Caeso Fabius is another Quisling.
> >
> > *I know Q. Fabius is not.*
> >
> > But just how many in the CP are Quislings? I guess we will see if the CP
> is
> > as utterly corrupt as Piscinus is...or if the CP is worthy of an ounce of
> > respect.
> >
> > And if anyone doesn't know what a Quisling is - here is a link:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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No, because the Senate list is where the constituted Board of Directors
convene. Thus the full affect of Maine Law would be applied, as it would
have been if there was not a successful resolution.

The CA list owned by Equitius had no such legal entanglements. It was his
list. He was the boss and if he did not want you on it, that was it.

Vale,

Sulla

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:11 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
>
> That is utter absurdity! I own the Senate list, as censor. Does that give
> me the right and prerogative to delete the list if I so choose? Absolutely
> not. Likewise, I tried removing you from the senate list, since you were
> not a senator, and you threatened a law suit -- and once the new censores
> took office you where brought back. *sigh* practice what you preach... for
> once! Please. Stop calling people like Marca Hortensia Maior a hypocrite
> when you yourself are doing exactly the same thing!
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Robert Woolwine
>
> <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>>wrote:
>
> > He owned the list. It was his property. Just like the BA is Fabius's and
> > My list.He could do with it exactly as he pleased. If he did not want you
> > on his list, that is his prerogative.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit

Always quick to jab and attack. Sad really. Remember just a few days ago
when you wanted the Main List to be a better place? Like it was in the "old
days." Start practicing what you preach.

While Pompeia and I could have done some things differently I think we had a
decent year. It was a pleasure working with her and I miss the
conversations she and I had.

Vale;

Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...>wrote:

> I was absent when you were Consul, Thank G-d!
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla

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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit

I see more "pick and choose" what is official and what is not. I guess the
Collegium Augurum meet someplace else other than the "Collegium Augurum"
list. Pick and choose.

Vale;

Modianus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...>wrote:

> No, because the Senate list is where the constituted Board of Directors
> convene. Thus the full affect of Maine Law would be applied, as it would
> have been if there was not a successful resolution.
>
> The CA list owned by Equitius had no such legal entanglements. It was his
> list. He was the boss and if he did not want you on it, that was it.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla

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Ave,

I am just clearing the record. And still researching dissertation abstracts
that will be posted on the Religio Romana list, as that has been quite
enjoyable and productive way to spend my time. But, that does not mean I
will allow injustice to go on without comment. What is happening to Q.
Cacelius is an injustice, pure and simple.

Vale,

Sulla

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:14 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
>
> Always quick to jab and attack. Sad really. Remember just a few days ago
> when you wanted the Main List to be a better place? Like it was in the "old
> days." Start practicing what you preach.
>
> While Pompeia and I could have done some things differently I think we had
> a
> decent year. It was a pleasure working with her and I miss the
> conversations she and I had.
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Robert Woolwine
>
> <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>>wrote:
>
> > I was absent when you were Consul, Thank G-d!
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Dexter Sullae sal.,

> What no response to my email yesterday with the economics lesson? ;)

The response will be tomorrow (june 24) by people in the street.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

Ave,

Actually, no its not picking in choosing at all.

However, if you want to make the distinction go away....it really is
simple. Dissolve the Corporation, give all of NR's money that it has raised
to some organization like the Red Cross or March of Dimes (because if anyone
in NR - specifically a board member iirc - profits from the dissolution of
the corp it would be a violation of Maine Law). Then cease all collection
of dues (wouldn't want to be accused of tax evasion) and then the Senate
list will not have the impediment that currently exists.

Then the senate will be exactly like any other email list. And, NR would be
nothing more than a RPG/WOW or any other MMORPG

But, until that time happens, Maine Law prevails.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
>
> I see more "pick and choose" what is official and what is not. I guess the
> Collegium Augurum meet someplace else other than the "Collegium Augurum"
> list. Pick and choose.
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Woolwine
>
> <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>>wrote:
>
> > No, because the Senate list is where the constituted Board of Directors
> > convene. Thus the full affect of Maine Law would be applied, as it would
> > have been if there was not a successful resolution.
> >
> > The CA list owned by Equitius had no such legal entanglements. It was his
> > list. He was the boss and if he did not want you on it, that was it.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Salve, amice Dexter!

You are a real tribune of the plebs :o)

VALE!
LENT.


--- Mer 23/6/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...> ha scritto:







 









Dexter Sullae sal.,

> What no response to my email yesterday with the economics lesson? ;)

The response will be tomorrow (june 24) by people in the street.



Vale.



C. Petronius Dexter

Arcoiali scribebat

a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

























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WHOOO more debt! ;)

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:30 AM, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...>wrote:

>
>
> Dexter Sullae sal.,
>
>
> > What no response to my email yesterday with the economics lesson? ;)
>
> The response will be tomorrow (june 24) by people in the street.
>
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> a. d. IX Kalendas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete omnes,
I too will vote for Iulia Aquila, who has already proved herself by taking
over the organization of the American conventus last year. I'm sure with her
the Macellum will get new life, and the Ludi will be the most fun we ever
had!

Optime valete,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:45 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Vote L. Iulia Aquila for Curule Aedile


L. Iulia Aquila Omnibus in Foro SPD


There is so much work ahead of all us in the res publica and working with a
motivated team devoted to Nova Roma will put her on the right track.
It won't be accomplished overnight and will be task of many working
together; a concerted effort will ensure more upward steps towards the
dreams of our citizens.
There are many citizens of honor and high dignitas in Nova Roma and they
deserve magistrates that work hard alongside them.
While it is important to learn from those who have been here and built Nova
Roma's foundation, it is also of import to get fresh perspectives, new ideas
and include new blood in the strengthening of our res publica.

There are so many citizens who have asked for the opportunity to make a
difference, both new and well established citizens, and the cohors must be
made up of these citizens. These are the concerned and hardworking citizens
and ex magistrates who will put forth a team effort to work towards making
the Macellum a successful initiative, to review and honor the Magna Mater in
such a way that will satisfy the legalities of the U.S. non-profit status
and the Italian government and breathing life into the Aedilician Fund.
This will not happen over night but with all of us working together we can
get a strong foothold.
From personal experience in Consular, Praetorial, Aedilician and Praetorian
Cohors, including countless discussions and work with various magistrates
and citizens there is an astute realization that this work will take
objective analysis, creativity, negotiation, compromise and problem solving
regarding these important initiatives to move them forward.
It can be done - we all need to step back from the animosities of the past
because there are good points and suggestions coming from all directions and
the "old guard" will be included in this work because of their valuable
experience.
The work done in the Aedilician cohors will be fashioned through teamwork to
continue from one administration to the other - there will be no glory for
one administration - the glory will be where it should be, in Nova Roma.

Rather than viewing Nova Roma as having "two sides" it will serve us better
to liken our fellow citizens to a huge multidimensional, multisided
polyhedron and recognize that there are many different viewpoints that will
birth a plethora of many different suggestions and solutions towards the
success of our Res publica.
Let us all get over these old obstacles and move forward.
Let us nurture the untapped resources in our citizenry.
Let us give an opportunity to those who have not had one in the past.

Manus labor quam optime
Teamwork at its best

Many ideas have been verbalized for the Games, the Ludi, which will continue
to foster camaraderie amongst us all. There are plans for a successful North
American Conventus - this too will take a team effort. Novi Romani will warm
up virtually with the Ludi and then take to the streets live for some real
time interaction as Romans interacting as Romans.

Please cast your vote for L. Iulia Aquila for Curule Aedile
Vivat Res Publica Nostra Prosperrime!


Optime valete atque di vos incolumes custodiant,

L. Julia Aquila

Salve,

Thank you Sulla, for pointing out the apparently obvious.

If anyone doesn't see the trend by now, then they never will and that is indeed a shame.

Stick with the current issues Sulla, try being the better person.

Vale,
Aeternia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave!
>
> I just gotta know, are the members of the CP Quislings who do the bidding of
> their masters?
>
> I know Hortensia Maior is....Piscinus flat out admitted it. Hehe, that is
> why Tink said to Piscinus he needs to get better minons! LOL
>
> I am positively confident that Caeso Fabius is another Quisling.
>
> *I know Q. Fabius is not.*
>
> But just how many in the CP are Quislings? I guess we will see if the CP is
> as utterly corrupt as Piscinus is...or if the CP is worthy of an ounce of
> respect.
>
> And if anyone doesn't know what a Quisling is - here is a link:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Cato Quinto Caecilio Metello Postumiano Pio sal.
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > "They will have shown that being a pontifex ... is more about being in full
> > political and religious agreement with the party in the majority. Most
> > importantly to me, they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a
> > faithful, practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold
> > those religious offices in Nova Roma."
> >
> > This is blatantly obvious in that a priestess who was thrown out of her
> > priesthood and declared "nefas" - sinful, unworthy, unclean - and banned
> > *for life* from holding another priesthood in Nova Roma ... is now one of
> > the members of the College of Pontiffs who is clamoring for your expulsion -
> > our very own Maior.
> >
> > It is blatantly obvious in that in "The Roman Questions", it is asked
> >
> > "Why is it that, if any one of the other priests is condemned and exiled,
> > they depose him and elect another, but the augur, as long as he lives, even
> > if they find him guilty of the worst offenses, they do not deprive of his
> > priesthood? They call "augurs" the men who are in charge of the omens."
> > (Plutarch, Roman Questions 99)
> >
> > And yet an augur (Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur) was stripped of his
> > priesthood because of political animosity - in direct contradiction to
> > ancient practice.
> >
> > And the list goes on. So much for faithful "living reconstruction".
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salvete ambo et omnes,

Just a word in your discussion, so that you have every useful information.

The hypothesis of the dissolution of NR Inc. corporation is currently one of the two solutions - the other being fixing its legal status through By-Laws - that the consuls wish to present to the Senate and to the People.

Currently, the way things will be put forward is not yet decided, for it depends on the way our electoral tools will work in the close future.

But what is sure is that, both in the current majority and in the opposition, two opinions exist: one underlines the fact that Nova Roma does not need an incorporated corporation and should get rid of it ; the other one insists on keeping it, stating that its status must be fixed.

At a time we are stating that we must solve several legal matters on NR Inc., we are going to be brought deciding between both directions, that are both legitimate.

Normally, the consuls should present the situation and a legal proposal in the coming months before next Fall.

Valete ambo et omnes,


Albucius cos.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave,
>
> Actually, no its not picking in choosing at all.
>
> However, if you want to make the distinction go away....it really is
> simple. Dissolve the Corporation, give all of NR's money that it has raised
> to some organization like the Red Cross or March of Dimes (because if anyone
> in NR - specifically a board member iirc - profits from the dissolution of
> the corp it would be a violation of Maine Law). Then cease all collection
> of dues (wouldn't want to be accused of tax evasion) and then the Senate
> list will not have the impediment that currently exists.
>
> Then the senate will be exactly like any other email list. And, NR would be
> nothing more than a RPG/WOW or any other MMORPG
>
> But, until that time happens, Maine Law prevails.
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
> >
> > I see more "pick and choose" what is official and what is not. I guess the
> > Collegium Augurum meet someplace else other than the "Collegium Augurum"
> > list. Pick and choose.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Modianus
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Woolwine
> >
> > <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>>wrote:
> >
> > > No, because the Senate list is where the constituted Board of Directors
> > > convene. Thus the full affect of Maine Law would be applied, as it would
> > > have been if there was not a successful resolution.
> > >
> > > The CA list owned by Equitius had no such legal entanglements. It was his
> > > list. He was the boss and if he did not want you on it, that was it.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salvete omnes,

and the armies of Flavus fight against Gahna in a few minutes. Lets see
if they are scared to death by their appearance or if they
fight them down Teutoburger Forrest style!

He He

C.AQV.

HI HI HI and thje Germans surprise : They play the first time I have ever seen in black and that actually scares the Numidians from Ghana

Ho ho ho

Messalina I could not find thye duck tape shoot!





________________________________
From: Aqvillivs <c.aqvillivs_rota@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:22:46 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] I am back to the battle fields GER-GAH


Salvete omnes,

and the armies of Flavus fight against Gahna in a few minutes. Lets see
if they are scared to death by their appearance or if they
fight them down Teutoburger Forrest style!

He He

C.AQV.







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M. Hortensia quiritibus spd;

Julia Aquila is a true Nova Roman; she saved the Conventus last year, organized events; truly selfless as she was not able to attend.
I was at the Conventus and had a wonderful time, thanks to Julia.

Julia Aquila also is a sacerdos Veneris and has an active temple in Nashville, she is a true cultrix who does and is reviving the living Religio Romana.

She will give wonderful games, is a positive model for all cives, the kind of civis that makes Nova Roma great.
optime vale
M. Hortensia Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
> I too will vote for Iulia Aquila, who has already proved herself by taking
> over the organization of the American conventus last year. I'm sure with her
> the Macellum will get new life, and the Ludi will be the most fun we ever
> had!
>
> Optime valete,
> Livia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@>
> To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:45 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Vote L. Iulia Aquila for Curule Aedile
>
>
> L. Iulia Aquila Omnibus in Foro SPD
>
>
> There is so much work ahead of all us in the res publica and working with a
> motivated team devoted to Nova Roma will put her on the right track.
> It won't be accomplished overnight and will be task of many working
> together; a concerted effort will ensure more upward steps towards the
> dreams of our citizens.
> There are many citizens of honor and high dignitas in Nova Roma and they
> deserve magistrates that work hard alongside them.
> While it is important to learn from those who have been here and built Nova
> Roma's foundation, it is also of import to get fresh perspectives, new ideas
> and include new blood in the strengthening of our res publica.
>
> There are so many citizens who have asked for the opportunity to make a
> difference, both new and well established citizens, and the cohors must be
> made up of these citizens. These are the concerned and hardworking citizens
> and ex magistrates who will put forth a team effort to work towards making
> the Macellum a successful initiative, to review and honor the Magna Mater in
> such a way that will satisfy the legalities of the U.S. non-profit status
> and the Italian government and breathing life into the Aedilician Fund.
> This will not happen over night but with all of us working together we can
> get a strong foothold.
> From personal experience in Consular, Praetorial, Aedilician and Praetorian
> Cohors, including countless discussions and work with various magistrates
> and citizens there is an astute realization that this work will take
> objective analysis, creativity, negotiation, compromise and problem solving
> regarding these important initiatives to move them forward.
> It can be done - we all need to step back from the animosities of the past
> because there are good points and suggestions coming from all directions and
> the "old guard" will be included in this work because of their valuable
> experience.
> The work done in the Aedilician cohors will be fashioned through teamwork to
> continue from one administration to the other - there will be no glory for
> one administration - the glory will be where it should be, in Nova Roma.
>
> Rather than viewing Nova Roma as having "two sides" it will serve us better
> to liken our fellow citizens to a huge multidimensional, multisided
> polyhedron and recognize that there are many different viewpoints that will
> birth a plethora of many different suggestions and solutions towards the
> success of our Res publica.
> Let us all get over these old obstacles and move forward.
> Let us nurture the untapped resources in our citizenry.
> Let us give an opportunity to those who have not had one in the past.
>
> Manus labor quam optime
> Teamwork at its best
>
> Many ideas have been verbalized for the Games, the Ludi, which will continue
> to foster camaraderie amongst us all. There are plans for a successful North
> American Conventus - this too will take a team effort. Novi Romani will warm
> up virtually with the Ludi and then take to the streets live for some real
> time interaction as Romans interacting as Romans.
>
> Please cast your vote for L. Iulia Aquila for Curule Aedile
> Vivat Res Publica Nostra Prosperrime!
>
>
> Optime valete atque di vos incolumes custodiant,
>
> L. Julia Aquila
>

Yay! He's back! *waves pom-poms*
 
Oh, no duck tape? Well, I guess it's my turn to go to market. LOL
 
Did you hear about the two feuding brothers? One is playing for the German team and the other for Ghana. Added drama! :o
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 


<<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Aqvillivs Rota <c.aqvillivs_rota@...> wrote:
HI HI HI and thje Germans surprise : They play the first time I have ever seen in black and that actually scares the Numidians from Ghana

Ho ho ho

Messalina I could not find thye duck tape shoot!>>

________________________________

>>>From: Aqvillivs <c.aqvillivs_rota@...>

Salvete omnes,

and the armies of Flavus fight against Gahna in a few minutes. Lets see
if they are scared to death by their appearance or if they
fight them down Teutoburger Forrest style!

He He

C.AQV.<<<




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M. Hortensia K. Modiano spd;
don't waste your time arguing with him, Modiane, it is a waste. He also has no concept of the law. Cincinnatus was an official of Nova Roma acting for them; he was an agent. The property of the list belonged to Nova Roma under corporate agency law.

Additionally, for corporate dissolutions, the dues would need to be allocated to a like institution. You cannot just give it to the 'Red Cross.' That's in the dissolution clause of Maine non profit law.

The current Main List is a chaotic mess, I hope with elections I'll be given a mandate again to do my job, without interference.It's what the people wanted. The Main List as Gn. Cornelius Lentulus put it; needs strong moderation.
optime vale
M. Hortensia Maior
candidate for praetrix
for order on the Main List; No to bullies!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave,
>
> Actually, no its not picking in choosing at all.
>
> However, if you want to make the distinction go away....it really is
> simple. Dissolve the Corporation, give all of NR's money that it has raised
> to some organization like the Red Cross or March of Dimes (because if anyone
> in NR - specifically a board member iirc - profits from the dissolution of
> the corp it would be a violation of Maine Law). Then cease all collection
> of dues (wouldn't want to be accused of tax evasion) and then the Senate
> list will not have the impediment that currently exists.
>
> Then the senate will be exactly like any other email list. And, NR would be
> nothing more than a RPG/WOW or any other MMORPG
>
> But, until that time happens, Maine Law prevails.
>
> Vale,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Lucio Cornelio Sullae Felici salutem dicit
> >
> > I see more "pick and choose" what is official and what is not. I guess the
> > Collegium Augurum meet someplace else other than the "Collegium Augurum"
> > list. Pick and choose.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Modianus
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Woolwine
> >
> > <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>>wrote:
> >
> > > No, because the Senate list is where the constituted Board of Directors
> > > convene. Thus the full affect of Maine Law would be applied, as it would
> > > have been if there was not a successful resolution.
> > >
> > > The CA list owned by Equitius had no such legal entanglements. It was his
> > > list. He was the boss and if he did not want you on it, that was it.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

In a message dated 6/23/2010 11:18:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
albucius_aoe@... writes:

But what is sure is that, both in the current majority and in the
opposition, two opinions exist: one underlines the fact that Nova Roma does not
need an incorporated corporation and should get rid of it ; the other one
insists on keeping it, stating that its status must be fixed.

At a time we are stating that we must solve several legal matters on NR
Inc., we are going to be brought deciding between both directions, that are
both legitimate.

Normally, the consuls should present the situation and a legal proposal in
the coming months before next Fall.




Consul
To get rid of NR INC would be very reckless. NR INC was founded at the
same time as NR proper to insure that NR would endure. Without NR INC, there
would be no Nova Roma. It would have broken up in 2000. Having the NR
INC framework maintained NR when it was in danger of falling apart.

I believe we should relocate the corporate HQ to Nevada, and leave Maine
since the rules in Nevada are not that strict. But I still believe NR INC
must endure.

-Q. Fabius Maximus


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I'm so proud of them. They acquitted themselves well, but la France! Qu'est arrivé à l'équipe? Hey, if you like, we can ship Beckham over to you. He ain't doing a thing for us; maybe he can do something for you!
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
 
 

<<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Publius Memmius Albucius <albucius_aoe@...> wrote:

Omnibus socceris s.d.

Once again, the U.S. soccer team just gave a demonstration of Roman virtues applied to soccer, scoring by Donovan in the additional time after half a dozen unsuccessful attempts, and while it was eliminated at this time.

Disciplina, solidarity, playing for the team, will and never renouncing fighting until the end. The whole contrary of French team. Here is soccer how we wish teaching it to our children (for those who are fed up with so-called 'football' ;-), basket and base-ball! ;-) ).

My sincere thanks and homages to the U.S. team, which other squadrons must count with for the 1/8th!

Valete omnes fans,

P. Memmius Albucius>>




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Salvete Quirites!

I want to remind You all of the Voting (Elections) in the Comitia
Populi Tributa as in the edict (EDICT XIV CFBQ) below. The candidates
are listed in the next edict further below.

*********************

Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

The Fourteenth Consular edict CFBQ on the call for the elections in
Comitia Populi Tributa

I. I have received the Auguria for the elections in Comitia Populi
Tributa from Magister Collegium Augurii M. Moravius Piscinus with an
approving result.

II: Therefore the Contio will begin next 15th June at 06.00 hour (CET,
time of Rome) until 23rd June at 05.59 hour (time of Roma).

III. Voting will begin 24th June at 06.00 hour (time of Roma) until
06.01 CET Rome on 29 June (CET, time of Rome) for five full days.

IV. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given this 23nd of June, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo
Quintilianus, 2763 AUC.


*********************
*********************

Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XVIII on Candidates for the elections in
Comitia Populi Tributa


II (Two positions) QUAESTORES:

Quintus Servilius Priscus (Citizen ID # (2369))

II (Two positions) ROGATORES:

Raina Cornelia Aeternia (Citizen ID # (409))

I (One positions) CURULE AEDILE,:


Lucia Iulia Aquila (Citizen ID # (11530))

Gaius Equitius Cato (Citizen ID # (7186))


Given this 16th of June, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus,
2763 AUC.



*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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Yep, it's finally here, but in only one theater! That's such a disappointment. I'm hoping it will get released in some more as we have lots of art movie theaters around here. I can't understand why they released it in only one.
I'm going to try and see it this weekend, but it's very far from me, too.
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 


<<--- On Mon, 6/21/10, fauxrari <drivergirl@...> wrote:

FYI...

The movie 'Agora' about Hypathia of Alexandria is playing in Southern California art movie theaters. I want to see it... but I live in Bakersfield and we don't have any art movie theaters. Please someone go see it and let me know if it's good!

L. Antonia Auriga>>





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sends the USA in the next battle versus Ghana!

Let us see how the new world legion fights against their Taxi drivers !!!





________________________________
From: Aqvillivs Rota <c.aqvillivs_rota@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:29:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] I am back to the battle fields GER-GAH


HI HI HI and thje Germans surprise : They play the first time I have ever seen in black and that actually scares the Numidians from Ghana

Ho ho ho

Messalina I could not find thye duck tape shoot!

________________________________
From: Aqvillivs <c.aqvillivs_rota@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 8:22:46 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] I am back to the battle fields GER-GAH

Salvete omnes,

and the armies of Flavus fight against Gahna in a few minutes. Lets see
if they are scared to death by their appearance or if they
fight them down Teutoburger Forrest style!

He He

C.AQV.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Aeternia Maximae Valeriae sal,


ahem. Beckham is my soccer hero, he played for Man U greatest soccer team ever :D


vale,
Aeternia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
> I'm so proud of them. They acquitted themselves well, but la France! Qu'est arrivé à l'équipe? Hey, if you like, we can ship Beckham over to you. He ain't doing a thing for us; maybe he can do something for you!
>  
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
> <<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Publius Memmius Albucius <albucius_aoe@...> wrote:
>
> Omnibus socceris s.d.
>
> Once again, the U.S. soccer team just gave a demonstration of Roman virtues applied to soccer, scoring by Donovan in the additional time after half a dozen unsuccessful attempts, and while it was eliminated at this time.
>
> Disciplina, solidarity, playing for the team, will and never renouncing fighting until the end. The whole contrary of French team. Here is soccer how we wish teaching it to our children (for those who are fed up with so-called 'football' ;-), basket and base-ball! ;-) ).
>
> My sincere thanks and homages to the U.S. team, which other squadrons must count with for the 1/8th!
>
> Valete omnes fans,
>
> P. Memmius Albucius>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Oh, not knocking the man. He's one of the greatest and as I remember (because I'm not allow to look anymore), he was serious "eye candy". Presumably, still is. I only meant, since he's injured and can't play for LA Galaxy, might as well hop on over to France and see what he can for their team. 
While we're on the subject and with World Cup fever taking over virtually every corner of the globe, if anyone has not seen the movie, "Bend it like Beckham", I highly recommend it. :)
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
  

<<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Tragedienne <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
 
Aeternia Maximae Valeriae sal,

ahem. Beckham is my soccer hero, he played for Man U greatest soccer team ever :D

vale,
Aeternia>>




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Salve Consularis,

I agree with you, probably as a majority of the Board.
We need to discuss of it, in the Senate, and have a true debate.

But if we want to clear out our legal situation (by-laws etc.), we will need that our whole citizenry, *which will vote*, be convinced, as we may be you and me, of the interest to keep an incorporation, and a legal existence.

About Nevada, tnx for the info. I will propose the Senate and the People that we first get our organization steady (if ever a majority does not wish to get rid of NR Inc.), adopting true By-Laws, which would be laid in Maine services.

This way our situation would be clear and wholly legal in the Maine.

Then, we may have some time deciding quietly, after some comparative analysis, moving in every possible place (other state, Rome, etc.). No problem.


Vale Fabi,


Albucius cos.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, QFabiusMaxmi@... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/23/2010 11:18:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> albucius_aoe@... writes:
>
> But what is sure is that, both in the current majority and in the
> opposition, two opinions exist: one underlines the fact that Nova Roma does not
> need an incorporated corporation and should get rid of it ; the other one
> insists on keeping it, stating that its status must be fixed.
>
> At a time we are stating that we must solve several legal matters on NR
> Inc., we are going to be brought deciding between both directions, that are
> both legitimate.
>
> Normally, the consuls should present the situation and a legal proposal in
> the coming months before next Fall.
>
>
>
>
> Consul
> To get rid of NR INC would be very reckless. NR INC was founded at the
> same time as NR proper to insure that NR would endure. Without NR INC, there
> would be no Nova Roma. It would have broken up in 2000. Having the NR
> INC framework maintained NR when it was in danger of falling apart.
>
> I believe we should relocate the corporate HQ to Nevada, and leave Maine
> since the rules in Nevada are not that strict. But I still believe NR INC
> must endure.
>
> -Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Nevada, you say? Hmmm... is this a prelude to our getting own Roman casino complete with race track on the side? We can do that in Nevada! :) Then there would be no need for taxes - the money from the casino and racetrack would support us and then a lot more citizens could run for office or enter the priesthoods. We could even have our own version of Midnight Bingo! Yep, this may be the way to go.
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

<<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, QFabiusMaxmi@... <QFabiusMaxmi@...> wrote:

Consul
To get rid of NR INC would be very reckless. NR INC was founded at the
same time as NR proper to insure that NR would endure. Without NR INC, there
would be no Nova Roma. It would have broken up in 2000. Having the NR
INC framework maintained NR when it was in danger of falling apart.

I believe we should relocate the corporate HQ to Nevada, and leave Maine
since the rules in Nevada are not that strict. But I still believe NR INC
must endure.

-Q. Fabius Maximus >>




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You know he may decide coaching but with the Summer Olympics coming up in London, who knows he may just return to England..

Aeternia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, not knocking the man. He's one of the greatest and as I remember (because I'm not allow to look anymore), he was serious "eye candy". Presumably, still is. I only meant, since he's injured and can't play for LA Galaxy, might as well hop on over to France and see what he can for their team. 
> While we're on the subject and with World Cup fever taking over virtually every corner of the globe, if anyone has not seen the movie, "Bend it like Beckham", I highly recommend it. :)
>  
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>  
>  
>   
>
> <<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Tragedienne <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
>  
> Aeternia Maximae Valeriae sal,
>
> ahem. Beckham is my soccer hero, he played for Man U greatest soccer team ever :D
>
> vale,
> Aeternia>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Salve Messallina!

>we can ship Beckham over to you

Keep David and Posh: she has not finished her drawing book!

And David is too old: we have now a 1/3rd of the team in this situation, whose players have probably their last matches.
For the other ones: too pretentious, too rich, not work enough, over-rated, and wholly cut from daily life, and the difficulties average ppl may have. Half of them have signed their death penalty in South Africa psychodrama.
Add to that a coach with not skills enough, who deprises the media, and which was supported by an unadapted amateur organization, and you have the pitiful situation.

Eheu eheu, but it explains why 75 % of people here were hoping a defeat before the last (and lost) 3rd match.

Vale,


P. Memmius Albucius

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:
>
> I'm so proud of them. They acquitted themselves well, but la France! Qu'est arrivé à l'équipe? Hey, if you like, we can ship Beckham over to you. He ain't doing a thing for us; maybe he can do something for you!
>  
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
> <<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Publius Memmius Albucius <albucius_aoe@...> wrote:
>
> Omnibus socceris s.d.
>
> Once again, the U.S. soccer team just gave a demonstration of Roman virtues applied to soccer, scoring by Donovan in the additional time after half a dozen unsuccessful attempts, and while it was eliminated at this time.
>
> Disciplina, solidarity, playing for the team, will and never renouncing fighting until the end. The whole contrary of French team. Here is soccer how we wish teaching it to our children (for those who are fed up with so-called 'football' ;-), basket and base-ball! ;-) ).
>
> My sincere thanks and homages to the U.S. team, which other squadrons must count with for the 1/8th!
>
> Valete omnes fans,
>
> P. Memmius Albucius>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Maybe we could get enough money up and buy Caesars Palace :-)

Quintus Servilius Priscus

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Maxima Valeria Messallina
<maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:

> Nevada, you say? Hmmm... is this a prelude to our getting own Roman casino complete with race track on the side? We can do that in Nevada! :) Then there would be no need for taxes - the money from the casino and racetrack would support us and then a lot more citizens could run for office or enter the priesthoods. We could even have our own version of Midnight Bingo! Yep, this may be the way to go.
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, QFabiusMaxmi@... <QFabiusMaxmi@...> wrote:
>
> Consul
> To get rid of NR INC would be very reckless. NR INC was founded at the
> same time as NR proper to insure that NR would endure. Without NR INC, there
> would be no Nova Roma. It would have broken up in 2000. Having the NR
> INC framework maintained NR when it was in danger of falling apart.
>
> I believe we should relocate the corporate HQ to Nevada, and leave Maine
> since the rules in Nevada are not that strict. But I still believe NR INC
> must endure.
>
> -Q. Fabius Maximus >>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Sent from my HTC EVO 4G!

From the Mob? oops did I say that out loud? Yeah....that would work! ;)
Who will be our Howard Hughes?

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Charlie <byzandroid@...> wrote:

>
>
> Maybe we could get enough money up and buy Caesars Palace :-)
>
> Quintus Servilius Priscus
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Maxima Valeria Messallina
> <maximavaleriamessallina@... <maximavaleriamessallina%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> > Nevada, you say? Hmmm... is this a prelude to our getting own Roman
> casino complete with race track on the side? We can do that in Nevada!
> :) Then there would be no need for taxes - the money from the casino and
> racetrack would support us and then a lot more citizens could run for office
> or enter the priesthoods. We could even have our own version of Midnight
> Bingo! Yep, this may be the way to go.
> >
> > Maxima Valeria Messallina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <<--- On Wed, 6/23/10, QFabiusMaxmi@... <QFabiusMaxmi%40aol.com> <
> QFabiusMaxmi@... <QFabiusMaxmi%40aol.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Consul
> > To get rid of NR INC would be very reckless. NR INC was founded at the
> > same time as NR proper to insure that NR would endure. Without NR INC,
> there
> > would be no Nova Roma. It would have broken up in 2000. Having the NR
> > INC framework maintained NR when it was in danger of falling apart.
> >
> > I believe we should relocate the corporate HQ to Nevada, and leave Maine
> > since the rules in Nevada are not that strict. But I still believe NR INC
> > must endure.
> >
> > -Q. Fabius Maximus >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G!
>
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The Collegium Pontificum is currently in session and discussions are ongoing at the moment. When we have finished, we will then be better able to answer yours and anyone else's pertinent questions.
 
Vale bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
 
 
 
 


<<--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
Ave,

Why is Pontiff Q. Cacelius Metellus up on the CP agenda?

I am wondering if this is in retaliation for his filing charges against
Maior?

Maior conveniently and halfheartedly talks about Concordia yet refuses to
answer my question yesterday, and for that matter the CP itself has failed
in its responsibility to give a citizen and board of director member an
explanation.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix>>




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WOW! I am so impressed! Your province rocks! You are a shining example to all the US provinces (especially mine). I wish you all the best of luck in everything you have planned!
(And for myself, I really appreciated the "Speak like a Roman" part. Gratias tibi ago!)
 
Vale bene,
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 


<<--- On Tue, 6/15/10, luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

Austrorientalis Herald A.D. XVII KAL. QVINT.

News from the Provincia!!!!!

Quod Novi?

Pretorium Conference A.D VIII ID. IVN.

After several weeks of planning, an untold number of emails and phone
calls between Legatus Pro Praetore Gaius Aquillius Rota, Procurator L.
Iulia Aquila and many Austrorientalis citizens our first A.Æ
Praetorium Web Conference as an entire cohor assembled A.D VIII ID. IVN.

The Conference commenced with an Invocation to Iuppiter by A.Æ
Sacerdos Prima, L. Iulia Aquila.

The Praetorium was greeted and introduced:

Praefectii

Gaius Aquillius Rota (Regio Carolina)

Caius Iulius Octavianus (Regio Florida)

C. Maria Caeca (Regio Georgia)

Gaius Antonius Germanicus (Regio Mississippi)

Lucia Iulia Aquila (Regio Tennessee)

Scribae

Tiberius Ovidius Aquila

For four hours discussions included finances, surveys, state and
population of the Regios, many projects that are still in very early
planning stages including the Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus,
marketing and public relations to increase citizenship not only in our
provincia but hopefully will spread to the adjacent provincias and in
Nova Roma in general. The next conference is scheduled for July 2010.

Our objective is to increase offline Novi Romani participation in our
province and network with other provinces that are doing the same.

Vivat Res Publica nostra prosperrime!

Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010

With much pleasure the Praetorium would like to announce the dates of
our Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 – Thursday October 7th
to Monday October 11th 2010. This is Columbus Day weekend so some
citizens may be able to take advantage the long weekend. The Conventus
will be held on the acreage of Propraetor Rota and the admission will be
free. Free campsites will be available and those who prefer camping in
hotel rooms can join this praecor thereJ naturally the attendee must pay
for their own hotel rooms.

Assistance with lodging, travel including carpools will be provided upon
request.

This event is so far very promising as already there are many with
skills and crafts related to Ancient Rome who have already expressed
interest in attending and quite a few who have already volunteered.
There will be Rituals, Military, Vendors of wonderful things, Games,
Poetry, Music, Art and educational presentations and of course meetings
– of many ilk, many of exhibitions and activities will be free!
Children's activities will also be offered as this is a family event
of course some events will be designated as adult only.

While there are many interesting activities in the works Propraetor Rota
is planning a huge banquet complete with Triclinium with many couches
where he and a carefully chosen staff will treat conventus goers to an
Ancient Roman Gastronomical repast!

Food of ancient origins will be available throughout the conventus with
smaller versions of the banquet being served in restaurant portion of
Propraetor Rota's domus.

How you can help out:

This conventus will pay for itself. Vendors will rent their tents,
citizens and vendors alike can sell their wares to a highly interested
general public. Those volunteering as servers will get a free meal.
Those are just a few examples.

We need Volunteers to help out in their area of expertise or just
general "hands." For example:

Servers for meals and rituals

Cultores to perform rituals

Ancient Roman hairstylist and barber

Beer and Winemaking (although the Propraetor will have his hand in this)

Cooks and kitchen help

Roman clothing (hopefully the Propraetor's uxor will display or sell
some of her creations)

Roman pottery demonstration et sales

Military et Gladitorial

Volunteers for children's activities (possibly a child care area)

Costumed Dancers esp. for the banquet

Poets (who can pronounce Latin)

Ancient Roman Healing modalities

Contests and Prizes

General Volunteers

All Novi Romani regardless of Provincia; If you would like to become
more involved in this, your conventus, or volunteer for the conventus
committee please notify Julia at luciaiuliaaquila@...
<mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...>

Establishment of additional A.Æ mailing lists

Cohors Praetoria Provincia A.Ae (for Praetorium only)

Provincia Austrorientalis Conventus 2010 (interested Volunteers to be
invited sometime in July)

Citizen Spotlight

Gaius Aquillius Rota: Tribunus Plebis, Legatus Pro Praetore Provincia
A.Æ et Praefectus Regio America Septentrionalis

Rota's, his uxor and two sons restored their domus in a very Roman way
– they painstakingly did all the restoration, frescoes and decor
themselves. Domina Rota makes lovely tunicae and other Roman clothing
for her family. Rota has been in Legio Military re-enactments for
decades in Italy, Germany and here in the US, specializing in ancient
Roman foods.

The Roman life is a family affair, he and his family sell their homemade
cheese, pasta and bread at several different markets all over South
Carolina making contacts, friends and networking as the ancients Roman.
They also sell the wax "note book" and stylus, lamps and roman games
they make themselves also. Some lovely photos can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/l_j_a/sets/72157624024168571/

Famarum Mysterium

Since they are rumors, famae, I shall not repeat them. This too will
lend further to the "mystery" but once they are confirmed I will
reveal the treasures in future editions of the "Austrorientalis
Herald" Hint: multas famae buzz about the A.Æ conventus.

Sententiae "Speak like a Roman":

Salve! Mirabilis visu!

Greetings/Hello! It is marvelous to see you!

Tibi gratias, et tu!

Thank you, same to you!

Consilium Amor et Vitae Romani

Salve Iulietta, I am a Roman man of legal age from Volunum. I would
like to find a Roman lady with similar interests but this has been a
difficult task. Do you have any suggestions? Vale, P. Annius Ruga

Ave Ruga, Move away from Volunum to Pannonia.

But if you are unable to relocate sound advice might come from Ovidus
The Art of Love Bk I - in this regard while at Roman Days or another
Roman event:

"But above all, the Playhouse is the place, There's choice of quarry
in that narrow chace: There take thy stand, and sharply looking out,
Soon may'st thou find a mistress in the rout, For length of time or for
a single bout. The Theatres are berries for the fair; Like ants or
mole-hills thither they repair; Like bees to hives so numerously they
throng, It may be said they to that place belong…" Vale, Iulietta

ABEVNT STVDIA IN MORES

Pursuits Pass Over Into Habits

~ Ovidus

Thank you for reading our first web edition of the Austrorientalis
Herald!

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Please contact Praeconis Provincea, L. Iulia Aquila at
luciaiuliaaquila@... <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila@...> , to
submit events, updates and newsworthy items to be included in our next
edition of the Austrorientalis Herald. This may includes brief and
important events in other Provincias as well outside of Austrorientalis,
esp. those that impact the entire citizenry of Nova Roma. Good natured
rumors, jokes, puzzles etc. are also encouraged. Latin and English
translations are encouraged as are Latin corrections by our Latinists
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All suggestions are appreciated.

Volunteer Editor(s) and Columnists Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis
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Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis to be
assistants/scribae to their Regio Praefectii and Procurator. Contact L.
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Volunteers Needed from Provincia Austrorientalis with expertise in
copying, printing for marketing, PR and newsletters to be coordinated
under the leadership of Praefectus Gaius Antonius Germanicus. Contact L.
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L. Iulia Aquila

Sacerdos Veneris Genetricis

Columnist, Editor, whathaveyou

Procurator et Sacerdos Prima A.Æ

Praefectus Regio Tennessee>>




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Cato Modiano sal.

Was he stripped of his priesthood?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus chose to leave Nova Roma. He also chose to
> ignore a legal case against him. How that case was handled is out of my
> control, and even though he left Nova Roma I still feel that justice was not
> done because I was never allowed to "face him" in court. I only wanted
> access to the Collegium Augurum list and for the Collegium Augurum to
> function. Cincinnatus kept impeeding that. Instead of seeing it as it was
> you continue to bring him up as a martyr. He was and is no martyr.
>
> Vale;
>
> Modianus
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Cato Quinto Caecilio Metello Postumiano Pio sal.
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > "They will have shown that being a pontifex ... is more about being in full
> > political and religious agreement with the party in the majority. Most
> > importantly to me, they will have proven that it is not necessary to be a
> > faithful, practicing follower of the Ancient Roman Cultus Deorum to hold
> > those religious offices in Nova Roma."
> >
> > This is blatantly obvious in that a priestess who was thrown out of her
> > priesthood and declared "nefas" - sinful, unworthy, unclean - and banned
> > *for life* from holding another priesthood in Nova Roma ... is now one of
> > the members of the College of Pontiffs who is clamoring for your expulsion -
> > our very own Maior.
> >
> > It is blatantly obvious in that in "The Roman Questions", it is asked
> >
> > "Why is it that, if any one of the other priests is condemned and exiled,
> > they depose him and elect another, but the augur, as long as he lives, even
> > if they find him guilty of the worst offenses, they do not deprive of his
> > priesthood? They call "augurs" the men who are in charge of the omens."
> > (Plutarch, Roman Questions 99)
> >
> > And yet an augur (Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur) was stripped of his
> > priesthood because of political animosity - in direct contradiction to
> > ancient practice.
> >
> > And the list goes on. So much for faithful "living reconstruction".
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
>
>
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