M.Hortensia quiritibus spd;
what does this have to do with Rome? There are interesting discussions to be had as the American founders had a profound classical education and Geo. Washington was termed the American Cincinnatus, but otherwise bland congratulations are meaningless....
vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Crispo sal.
>
> LOL Thank you very much! Your offspring - we hope - has done you proud :D
>
> Vale!
>
> Cato
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS" <jbshr1pwa@> wrote:
> >
> > C Marcius Crispus omnibus sal
> >
> > "On this day the United States observes the celebration of its declaration of independence from the British Crown."
> >
> >
> > We in Britannia send our warmest greetings to you all. So pleased that you made a good go at it.
> >
> > Valete bene - and Happy Fourth of July!
> > Crispus
> >
>

C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.

I humbly submit that courtesy and graciousness are never meaningless, anywhere, any time.

Vale,
CMC

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>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Mariae Caecae C. Marcio Crispo quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.
>
> I humbly submit that courtesy and graciousness are never meaningless,
> anywhere, any time.
>
> ATS: I agree completely. Whether it is condolences on someone¹s passing
> or joy at a birth or a wedding or a patriotic celebration, good wishes are
> never out of place. This Yankee descendant of warriors in the Revolution much
> appreciates Crispus¹ gracious remarks, and I suspect that many of us do.
>
> Vale,
> CMC
>

Vale, et valete.



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Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XXI on the results of the elections in Comitia
Populi

This report on the result was dellayed due to thunder nad lightning
discontinuing the Internet access.

I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis

Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.

8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.

There was no need to break ties.

Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.


II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate

Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.


III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate

Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.


IV. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.


Given this 5th of July, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus,2763
AUC.



*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae






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>
> Scholastica Lentulo suo S.P.D.
>
>
>
> Lentulus Tulliae sal
>
>> > ATS: Optimé! I would not like to think that someone deliberately
>
>> > removed my name from the list of candidates, mais on ne sait jamais. In
>> any case, that is hardly fair to me. I was very curious as to why the link
>> to the cista vanished into thin air just when I wanted to inspect the
>> election
>
>> > pages...
>
>> >
>
> Be 100% sure that no one did skip your name intentionally. 
>
> ATS: Speremus.
>
>
> I set up the list for the centuriata candidates, Agricola did it for the
> tributa candidates. As a long time friend of yours, I hope you do not think I
> would skip your name intentionally?
>
> ATS: Minimé! Scio bene te tale numquam factúrum esse. Collega tuus
> autem me odisse videtur.
>
>
> The truth is that I don't know how but I have just forgotten to add it,
>
> ATS: Non puto, sed fortasse deletum erat.
>
>
> probably because of haste,
>
> ATS: That might have been the reason why the praetorian candidates were
> listed as running for the curule aedileship...
>
>
> and this is why it is good if we have more people to check this sort of things
> because there's always possibility to make errors.I apologize, and now that
> it's corrected, I hope everything's OK.
>
> ATS: So do I, though some voters might not have been aware that I was in
> fact a candidate, and now the whole election is apparently being called into
> question.
>
> VALE!LENT.
>
> Vale!
>

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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Gaio Marcio Crispo salutem dicit

Another Freemason. There are a few of us here in Nova Roma.

Vale;

Modianus

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS <
jbshr1pwa@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Crispus Caecae sal,
>
> Yes, that is what I would think too, daylight for me, in my own time zone.
>
> Its interesting how, in many sects, cults and fraternities, there are
> specific times to do the work. As a freemason, I immediately thought of the
> exhortation to complete my allotted task while it is yet day - the task must
> be completed before the sun sets. The setting sun is associated with the
> finished, perfect block of stone.This makes perfect sense when dealing with
> the practical tasks of handling large and heavy blocks of stone. As a
> gardener, there are obviously spacial seasons for planting and harvesting,
> some of which are linked to religious festivals that happen to fall at the
> same times of year. And we have just celebrated St John's day on 24 June,
> when the St John's wort plant is in full flower. My wife, a wiccan, will
> tell me of other hours that have special significance, and that certain
> powers govern those hours.
>
> Vale, et valete optime
> Crispus
>

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Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem III Nonas Quinctilis; haec dies nefastus publicus est.

"Having accomplished these works deserving of immortality, while he
was holding an assembly of the people for reviewing his army, in the
plain near the Goat's pool, a storm suddenly came on, accompanied by
loud thunder and lightning, and enveloped the king in so dense a mist,
that it entirely hid him from the sight of the assembly. After this
Romulus was never seen again upon earth. The feeling of consternation
having at length calmed down, and the weather having become clear and
fine again after so stormy a day, the Roman youth seeing the royal
seat empty--though they readily believed the words of the fathers who
had stood nearest him, that he had been carried up to heaven by the
storm--yet, struck as it were with the fear of being fatherless, for a
considerable time preserved a sorrowful silence. Then, after a few had
set the example, the whole multitude saluted Romulus as a god, the son
of a god, the king and parent of the Roman city; they implored his
favour with prayers, that with gracious kindness he would always
preserve his offspring. I believe that even then there were some, who
in secret were convinced that the king had been torn in pieces by the
hands of the fathers--for this rumour also spread, but it was very
doubtfully received; admiration for the man, however, and the awe felt
at the moment, gave greater notoriety to the other report. Also by the
clever idea of one individual, additional confirmation is said to have
been attached to the occurrence. For Proculus Julius, while the state
was still troubled at the loss of the king, and incensed against the
senators, a weighty authority, as we are told, in any matter however
important, came forward into the assembly. "Quirites," said he,
"Romulus, the father of this city, suddenly descending from heaven,
appeared to me this day at daybreak. While I stood filled with dread,
and religious awe, beseeching him to allow me to look upon him face to
face, 'Go,' said he, 'tell the Romans, that the gods so will, that my
Rome should become the capital of the world. Therefore let them
cultivate the art of war, and let them know and so hand it down to
posterity, that no human power can withstand the Roman arms.' Having
said this, he vanished up to heaven." It is surprising what credit was
given to that person when he made the announcement, and how much the
regret of the common people and army for the loss of Romulus was
assuaged when the certainty of his immortality was confirmed." Livy,
History of Rome I.15

"Things being in this disorder, one, they say, of the patricians, of
noble family and approved good character, and a faithful and familiar
friend of Romulus himself, having come with him from Alba, Julius
Proculus by name, presented himself in the forum; and taking a most
sacred oath, protested before them all, that, as he was travelling on
the road, he had seen Romulus coming to meet him, looking taller and
comelier than ever, dressed in shining and flaming armor; and he,
being affrighted at the apparition, said, 'Why, O king, or for what
purpose, have you abandoned us to unjust and wicked surmises, and the
whole city to bereavement and endless sorrow?' and that he made
answer, 'It pleased the gods, O Proculus, that we, who came from them,
should remain so long a time amongst men as we did; and, having built
a city to be the greatest in the world for empire and glory, should
again return to heaven. But farewell; and tell the Romans, that, by
the exercise of temperance and fortitude, they shall attain the height
of human power; we will be to you the propitious god Quirinus.' This
seemed credible to the Romans, upon the honesty and oath of the
relator, and laying aside all jealousies and detractions, they prayed
to Quirinus and saluted him as a god." - Plutarch's Lives, "Romulus"

Today is marked as the observance of the Poplifugia, a significant religious festival which honors Iuppiter. It was a day of feasting and celebration but the rites are not known with certainty. Poplifugia means "The Flight of The People" and refers to
events that were ancient and obscure even to the Romans, but two
explanations are given by H.H. Scullard: one, "the people fled when
Romulus disappeared from mortal sight during a tempest"; the other,
the flight of the Roman people after the sack of Rome by the Gauls.

Valete bene!

Cato

Salve Modiane

I suspect there are a few of us here.

I greet you well my brother.

Vale optime
Crispus

Cn. Lentulus magister sodalitatis Latinitatis Quiritibus et Latinis sal.


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L'Associazione culturale Pomerium è lieta di invitarvi il 19 e 20 luglio
per una due giorni di visite a Napoli, Pompei ed Ercolano.

Coloro che vogliono partecipare all'evento, sono pregati di comunicare la
propria adesione possibilmente entro giovedì 15 p.v. a
segreteria@... ; sarà possibile avere informazioni oltre a guide
per la città e informazioni per l'alloggio a Pompei .

Di seguito il programma degli eventi (per info: 349.5092554 (Max) e
340.3472821 (Fabrizio); e-mail: segreteria@...; www.pomerium.org
<http://www.pomerium.org/> ;)





PROGRAMMA



Lunedi 19 Luglio

Visita in alternativa a:

1a –Museo Archeologico Nazionale di Napoli (per questo appuntamento fare
riferimento a Max).

Il Museo Archeologico Nazionale di Napoli, uno dei primi costituiti in
Europa in un monumentale palazzo seicentesco tra la fine del Settecento e
gli inizi dell’Ottocento, può vantare il più ricco e pregevole patrimonio di
opere dÂ’arte e manufatti di interesse archeologico in Italia. In esso sono
esposti oltre tremila oggetti di valore esemplare in varie sezioni tematiche
e conservati centinaia di migliaia di reperti databili dall’età preistorica
alla tarda antichità, sia provenienti da vari siti antichi del Meridione,
sia dallÂ’acquisizione di rilevanti raccolte antiquarie, a partire dalla
collezione Farnese appartenuta alla dinastia reale dei Borbone, fondatori
del Museo.

(altre notizie su:
http://museoarcheologiconazionale.campaniabeniculturali.it/)



1b. Scavi di Ercolano (per questo appuntamento fare riferimento a
Fabrizio).

L'antica città di Herculaneum, già gravemente danneggiata dal terremoto del
62, venne distrutta dall'eruzione del Vesuvio (79), che la coprì con
un'ingentissima massa di fango, cenere ed altri materiali eruttivi
trascinati dall'acqua piovana. Gli scavi di Ercolano, con quelli di Pompei e
Oplontis, sono inseriti dal 1997 nella lista dei patrimoni dell'umanità
dell'UNESCO.

(altre notizie su: http://scavidiercolano.jimdo.com/)

A seguire visita insieme a:

2. Scavi di Oplontis e Villa di Poppea (telefonare o scrivere per avere
indicazioni su come raggiungere Oplonti se prima non si è partecipato a 1a o
1b)

Per scavi archeologici di Oplonti si intende una serie di ritrovamenti
archeologici appartenenti all'antica città o zona suburbana pompeiana, di
Oplontis, seppellita insieme a Pompei, Ercolano e Stabiae dopo l'eruzione
del Vesuvio del 79 d.c.: oggi l'area archeologica è situata nel centro della
moderna città di Torre Annunziata e comprende una villa d'otium chiamata "di
Poppea" e una villa rustica detta "B o di Lucius Crassius Tertius".

(altre notizie su http://www.pompeiisites.org/Sezione.jsp?idSezione=281)



Martedi 20 luglio

3. Visita all’antica città di Pompei (giornata intera) - (appuntamento
ore 8,30 presso l'ingresso di Piazza Anfiteatro)

(con speciale visita alle due domus di Giulio Polibio e dei casti Amanti.
Chi fosse intenzionato a prenotare anche per le due domus deve effettuare
autonomamente la prenotazione obbligatoria dal lunedì al venerdì ore 9.00
-18.00 e il sabato ore 9.00- 14.00 al numero 199 104 114)

Nell'area degli scavi archeologici di Pompei è stata portata alla luce
l'antica città romana distrutta tragicamente a seguito di una delle eruzioni
del vicino vulcano Vesuvio, avvenuta nell'anno 79. La città e i suoi
abitanti vissero una tra le più grandi tragedie della storia antica che,
cristallizzata nel tempo e in quell'attimo, è stata riportata in superficie
grazie agli scavi voluti e finanziati da Carlo di Borbone.

(altre notizie su http://www.pompeiisites.org/)



Tenere presente che, vista la natura del luogo da visitare e il periodo
particolarmente caldo, si sconsiglia la visita a persone particolarmente
sensibili alla fatica e al caldo.



partecipate numerosi anche con amici e simpatizzanti !!!



_____



Per informazioni:
Associazione Pomerium - www.pomerium.org
c/o Marocco F. - Viale Alessandrino 477 - 00172 Roma

<mailto:info@...> info@... -
<mailto:amministrazione@...> amministrazione@... -
<mailto:segreteria@...> segreteria@...



Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus (Vivi perciò con
la moralità degli antichi, ma usa le parole della modernità; A.Gellio -
Notti Attiche)





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Ex Officio Tribunae Plebis Maximae Valeriae Messallinae Quiritibus S.P.D.
 
 
Here are the results of the election for 1 Aedilis Plebis in the Comitia Plebis Tributa:
 
40 ballots were received in total.

One ballot was duplicated and was excluded, and two ballots were empty; this resulted in 37 valid votes.
 
Individually, 35 ballots were cast for V. Rutilia Enodiaria, 1 write-in ballot cast for M. Moravius Piscinus and 1 write-in ballot cast for Sp. Porcius.
 
The voting results are: V. Rutilia Enodiaria won 25 tribal votes, M. Moravius Piscinus won 1 tribal vote.

9 tribes did not vote.

Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria is elected as Aedilis Plebis.
 
My congratulations to V. Rutilia Enodiaria! I thank her for her willingness to serve and I wish her all the best.

These results were provided to the Tribunes by L. Livia Plauta and M. Arminius Maior, who I thank for their good work in their service to our Respublica.
 
I wish to also thank all the Citizens who voted in the Comitia Plebis Tributa. Thank you for making your will known.
 
 
Valete bene in pace Deorum,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
Tribuna Plebis




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Congratulations to those elected to office and thank you to all the candidates on their willingness to serve.
 
Valete bene,
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
 
 


<<--- On Mon, 7/5/10, Christer Edling <christer.edling@...> wrote:

Ex Officio Consulis Caesonis Fabii Buteonis Quintiliani

Edictum Consulare CFBQ XXI on the results of the elections in Comitia
Populi

This report on the result was dellayed due to thunder nad lightning
discontinuing the Internet access.

I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis

Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.

8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.

There was no need to break ties.

Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.

II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate

Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.

III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate

Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.

IV. This Edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given this 5th of July, in the year of the Consulship of P. Memmius
Albucius and the Second Consulship of K.Fabius Buteo Quintilianus,2763
AUC.

*****************
Vale

Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

Consul Iterum
Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis
Civis Romanus sum
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
************************************************
Mons Palatinus, Clivus Victoriae
Palatine Hill, Incline of Victoriae>>




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Salvete omnes,
now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the
conventus in Rome.
Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take the
time to report.

I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I attended,
but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen
(and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of unread and
unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm in a
hotel with a good Internet connection.

Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6, 7,
were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.
I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,
because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile, but
some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:
http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#

This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in Sofia, and
by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very helpful,
and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out schedule
a bit.
The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were performed
by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose
powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.
There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two women who
were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who demonstrated
the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles
gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in
Bulgarian.
I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,
including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was also a
Roman food tasting.
Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in ancient
times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia Pautalia
had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current
thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The
archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits, including a
whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because
Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still very
interesting for those of us who come from abroad.
On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the
best spirit in Bulgaria).

In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman
reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the consular
conventus in Rome.
So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the conventus
and go to Plovdiv.

I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally
fascinated by the city.
Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are
left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of Rome,
these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built on.
Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the
acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.
The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon, in the
Roman forum.
Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we couldn't
perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.
This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though here
too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I
performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn, and I
did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm
enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman
bikini.
One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a
demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who
held the slave market.
The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool around,
eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out meals at a
very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and it's here
and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.
You can see us in these photo albums:
http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508

at the end of this one you can see my fashion show
http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218

This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus
http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#

Optime valete,
Livia

P Ullerius Stephanus Venator

alias

Steven Patrick Stewart Robinson
Master Mason, 32nd Degree, Lodge Chaplain Emeritus,
3rd Degree Ritual Team Member Emeritus
Perpetual Member Papillion #39 AF&AM, Papillion, Nebraska
Life Member, A&ASR/SJ, Omaha, Nebraska
Member (inactive) Roscoe #75 AF&AM, Roscoe, Illinois

Salve;

I have always been interested in the Scottish Rite, having read some of
Albert Pike's Morals and Dogmas. I've enjoyed Chapter and Council and have
thought about Scottish Rite. Your thoughts?

Recently I was in Washington, DC and instead of waiting at the airport for a
couple of hours I got on the metro and went to the George Washington Masonic
Memorial, even if for only 20 minutes. Lovely place.

Vale;

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator <
famila.ulleria.venii@...> wrote:

>
>
> P Ullerius Stephanus Venator
>
> alias
>
> Steven Patrick Stewart Robinson
> Master Mason, 32nd Degree, Lodge Chaplain Emeritus,
> 3rd Degree Ritual Team Member Emeritus
> Perpetual Member Papillion #39 AF&AM, Papillion, Nebraska
> Life Member, A&ASR/SJ, Omaha, Nebraska
> Member (inactive) Roscoe #75 AF&AM, Roscoe, Illinois
>

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Salvete,

Congratulations to newly elected Magistrates!

Especially to my Procurator AQVILA ! I am very happy to that Nova Roma has a
Magistrate with her who has a brain a mouth, two arms and hands which are used
to create things and not only to type messages.

Something which would fit our Senate too, as I sometimes see more contra
productive waste of energy than the necessary Roman fighting spirit with a
thrive for development.

In my eyes, the energy level is right; it just needs to be more focused.

The spirit of unity for a common goal, the acceptance and the trust in the
leadership skills of our elected Consuls in order to get something done!


In this sense, I wish you all a lot of success!

Vivat Nova Roma

C.AQV.ROTA
TRIB.PLEB.
LEG.PR.PR.




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Salve frater;

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:16 PM, David Kling wrote:
>
> Salve;
>
> I have always been interested in the Scottish Rite, having read some of
> Albert Pike's Morals and Dogmas. I've enjoyed Chapter and Council and have
> thought about Scottish Rite. Your thoughts?
>
> Recently I was in Washington, DC and instead of waiting at the airport for a
> couple of hours I got on the metro and went to the George Washington Masonic
> Memorial, even if for only 20 minutes. Lovely place.
>
> Vale;
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
>

I did go through the 29 degrees within the Scottish Rite to see what
the lessons were, which amplify those of the 3 Degrees in the Blue
Lodge. I spent most all my time in my home lodge, though, as Chaplain
and in ritual work.

I did not go York Rite as I understand there to be an oath involved
which defines one as a defender of the Christian faith. Two college
friends with whom my wife and I have kept close ties over the years
completed both Scottish and York Rite, but have also spent most of
their time with their local lodge.

So, York Rite is fine for those who can make that oath at the appropriate level.

"Morals and Dogma" is quite the tome. Albert Pike was a world class
thinker in my view and crammed some many pearls of wisdom between
those two covers.

There does exists a Masonic Pagans list...I'll see if I still have the link.

Vale - Venator

Salvete omnes!

I am delighted to congratulate our newest magistrates! I am sue that Enodia
will do an excellent job as Plebeian Aedile, And I am equally sue that
Aeternia will be an excellent Rogator. I am especially to see this, and
hope, Aeternia, that you find the duties of interest, and that you will be
encouraged to run for another office in January!

Valete Bene,
CMC

Salve Livia;
sounds fabulous. I wish I'd been there, I was checking your photos over at Facebook. Both Plodiv and Kyustendil are beautiful. Were any of the participants modern cultural Romans? or did it divide into re-enactors and polytheists. Really impressive to see our common culture in action!
optime vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
> now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the
> conventus in Rome.
> Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take the
> time to report.
>
> I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I attended,
> but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen
> (and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of unread and
> unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm in a
> hotel with a good Internet connection.
>
> Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6, 7,
> were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.
> I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,
> because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile, but
> some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:
> http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#
>
> This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in Sofia, and
> by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very helpful,
> and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out schedule
> a bit.
> The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were performed
> by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose
> powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.
> There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two women who
> were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who demonstrated
> the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles
> gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in
> Bulgarian.
> I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,
> including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was also a
> Roman food tasting.
> Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in ancient
> times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia Pautalia
> had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current
> thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The
> archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits, including a
> whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because
> Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still very
> interesting for those of us who come from abroad.
> On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the
> best spirit in Bulgaria).
>
> In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman
> reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the consular
> conventus in Rome.
> So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the conventus
> and go to Plovdiv.
>
> I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally
> fascinated by the city.
> Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are
> left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of Rome,
> these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built on.
> Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the
> acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.
> The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon, in the
> Roman forum.
> Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we couldn't
> perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.
> This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though here
> too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I
> performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn, and I
> did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm
> enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman
> bikini.
> One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a
> demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who
> held the slave market.
> The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool around,
> eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out meals at a
> very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and it's here
> and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.
> You can see us in these photo albums:
> http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508
>
> at the end of this one you can see my fashion show
> http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218
>
> This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus
> http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#
>
> Optime valete,
> Livia
>

Salvete; this is a very interesting article, about the pagan origins of the most revered christian sites in Israel. Really fascinating. The book for those who have access to good libraries and library loan is

"Christians and the Holy Places: the myth of Jewish-Christian origins" Oxford University Press 1993 Joan E Smith

http://tinyurl.com/38dfc63
enjoy and may the gods favour Nova Roma!
M. Hortensia Maior

Cato Maiori sal.

WHAT??? The Church of the Nativity might *not* be the place where Jesus was actually born??? Oh my God - I can't possibly be a Christian anymore!

LOL

You act as if it is a surprise - a deep hidden secret - that Christian churches were built over other religious edifices or even over places that were chosen by some possibly faulty historic tradition. It's not, and the see-saw of ownership of holy places all over the world throughout human history isn't a surprise either. The Romans did the same thing.

The article was published in AD 1993. How long did you spend searching to find this horrifically damning denunciation?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete; this is a very interesting article, about the pagan origins of the most revered christian sites in Israel. Really fascinating. The book for those who have access to good libraries and library loan is
>
> "Christians and the Holy Places: the myth of Jewish-Christian origins" Oxford University Press 1993 Joan E Smith
>
> http://tinyurl.com/38dfc63
> enjoy and may the gods favour Nova Roma!
> M. Hortensia Maior
>

C. Petronius Quiritibus s.p.d.,

> I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis
> Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
> Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.
> 8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
> Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.>
> There was no need to break ties.>
> Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.

Feliciter Juliae Aquilae! As I sang...

"Vota vovens decori Cybeles pura, atque Quiriti
Esto Turrigerae cordi, tu Iulia victrix."

Magna Mater was with you, amica Julia.
And now: Let Games come! I guess that Apollo is impatient.

> II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate
> Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.

Gratulations!

> III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate
> Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.

Long live our noble Raina...

Optime valete.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Pridie Nonas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
I think people have missed the College of Augurs' postings
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/77357

optime vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> C. Petronius Quiritibus s.p.d.,
>
> > I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis
> > Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
> > Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.
> > 8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
> > Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.>
> > There was no need to break ties.>
> > Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.
>
> Feliciter Juliae Aquilae! As I sang...
>
> "Vota vovens decori Cybeles pura, atque Quiriti
> Esto Turrigerae cordi, tu Iulia victrix."
>
> Magna Mater was with you, amica Julia.
> And now: Let Games come! I guess that Apollo is impatient.
>
> > II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate
> > Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.
>
> Gratulations!
>
> > III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate
> > Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.
>
> Long live our noble Raina...
>
> Optime valete.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Pridie Nonas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>

Cn. Lentulus accensus consularis Liviae Plautae omnibusque sal.


Unfortunately, the Conventus in Rome was canceled. No one announced their participation. As far as I know, after the cancellation, the consul decided to travel to Rome as a private trip, and probably met one of the Italic leaders, Perusianus, to talk about various organizational matters.

Vale!

CN LENTVLVS
Accensus Consulis CFBQ


--- Lun 5/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:

Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 5 luglio 2010, 22:53







 









Salvete omnes,

now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the

conventus in Rome.

Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take the

time to report.



I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I attended,

but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen

(and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of unread and

unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm in a

hotel with a good Internet connection.



Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6, 7,

were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.

I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,

because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile, but

some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:

http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#



This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in Sofia, and

by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very helpful,

and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out schedule

a bit.

The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were performed

by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose

powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.

There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two women who

were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who demonstrated

the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles

gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in

Bulgarian.

I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,

including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was also a

Roman food tasting.

Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in ancient

times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia Pautalia

had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current

thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The

archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits, including a

whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because

Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still very

interesting for those of us who come from abroad.

On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the

best spirit in Bulgaria).



In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman

reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the consular

conventus in Rome.

So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the conventus

and go to Plovdiv.



I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally

fascinated by the city.

Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are

left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of Rome,

these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built on.

Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the

acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.

The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon, in the

Roman forum.

Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we couldn't

perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.

This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though here

too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I

performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn, and I

did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm

enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman

bikini.

One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a

demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who

held the slave market.

The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool around,

eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out meals at a

very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and it's here

and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.

You can see us in these photo albums:

http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508



at the end of this one you can see my fashion show

http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218



This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus

http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#



Optime valete,

Livia

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Maior,

I think the augurs only mentioned the Comitia Centuriata, still voting
actually, not the Plebian or Tribal Comitia.

Cheers and Vale.
Valerianus

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:41 AM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

>
>
> M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
> I think people have missed the College of Augurs' postings
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/77357
>
> optime vale
> Maior
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
> >
> > C. Petronius Quiritibus s.p.d.,
> >
> > > I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis
> > > Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
> > > Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.
> > > 8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
> > > Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.>
> > > There was no need to break ties.>
> > > Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.
> >
> > Feliciter Juliae Aquilae! As I sang...
> >
> > "Vota vovens decori Cybeles pura, atque Quiriti
> > Esto Turrigerae cordi, tu Iulia victrix."
> >
> > Magna Mater was with you, amica Julia.
> > And now: Let Games come! I guess that Apollo is impatient.
> >
> > > II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate
> > > Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.
> >
> > Gratulations!
> >
> > > III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate
> > > Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.
> >
> > Long live our noble Raina...
> >
> > Optime valete.
> >
> > C. Petronius Dexter
> > Arcoiali scribebat
> > Pridie Nonas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
> >
>
>
>



--
"Qua(e) patres difficillime
adepti sunt nolite
turpiter relinquere" -
Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
(Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)

Check out my books on Goodreads: <a href="
http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus</a>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

OOPS! I meant Plebian and Popular. You knew that, though :)

~ Valerianus

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Colin Brodd <magisterbrodd@...> wrote:

> Salve Maior,
>
> I think the augurs only mentioned the Comitia Centuriata, still voting
> actually, not the Plebian or Tribal Comitia.
>
> Cheers and Vale.
> Valerianus
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:41 AM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
>> I think people have missed the College of Augurs' postings
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/77357
>>
>> optime vale
>> Maior
>>
>>
>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > C. Petronius Quiritibus s.p.d.,
>> >
>> > > I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis
>> > > Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
>> > > Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.
>> > > 8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
>> > > Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.>
>> > > There was no need to break ties.>
>> > > Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.
>> >
>> > Feliciter Juliae Aquilae! As I sang...
>> >
>> > "Vota vovens decori Cybeles pura, atque Quiriti
>> > Esto Turrigerae cordi, tu Iulia victrix."
>> >
>> > Magna Mater was with you, amica Julia.
>> > And now: Let Games come! I guess that Apollo is impatient.
>> >
>> > > II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate
>> > > Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.
>> >
>> > Gratulations!
>> >
>> > > III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate
>> > > Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.
>> >
>> > Long live our noble Raina...
>> >
>> > Optime valete.
>> >
>> > C. Petronius Dexter
>> > Arcoiali scribebat
>> > Pridie Nonas Quintiles P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "Qua(e) patres difficillime
> adepti sunt nolite
> turpiter relinquere" -
> Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
> (Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)
>
> Check out my books on Goodreads: <a href="
> http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
> http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus</a>
>



--
"Qua(e) patres difficillime
adepti sunt nolite
turpiter relinquere" -
Monumentum Bradfordis, Tamaropoli, in civitate Massaciuseta
(Bradford Monument, Plymouth, MA)

Check out my books on Goodreads: <a href="
http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus?utm_source=email_widget">
http://www.goodreads.com/profile/Valerianus</a>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Livia Lentulo sal.

You must be joking! The cancellation was never announced: on the contrary,
the conventus was publicized particularly the last week before it was
supposed to happen, and I know that Marcus Prometheus travelled there all
the way from Moldavia. The last news I had of the conventus was that Marcus
was having trouble finding the others.
At least Perusianus must have been there, and probably the other people from
Rome.

Optime vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] June Conventus was canceled


Cn. Lentulus accensus consularis Liviae Plautae omnibusque sal.


Unfortunately, the Conventus in Rome was canceled. No one announced their
participation. As far as I know, after the cancellation, the consul decided
to travel to Rome as a private trip, and probably met one of the Italic
leaders, Perusianus, to talk about various organizational matters.

Vale!

CN LENTVLVS
Accensus Consulis CFBQ


--- Lun 5/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:

Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 5 luglio 2010, 22:53

















Salvete omnes,

now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the

conventus in Rome.

Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take the

time to report.



I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I attended,

but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen

(and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of unread and

unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm in a

hotel with a good Internet connection.



Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6, 7,

were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.

I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,

because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile, but

some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:

http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#



This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in Sofia, and

by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very helpful,

and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out schedule

a bit.

The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were performed

by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose

powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.

There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two women who

were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who demonstrated

the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles

gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in

Bulgarian.

I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,

including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was also a

Roman food tasting.

Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in ancient

times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia Pautalia

had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current

thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The

archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits, including a

whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because

Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still very

interesting for those of us who come from abroad.

On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the

best spirit in Bulgaria).



In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman

reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the consular

conventus in Rome.

So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the conventus

and go to Plovdiv.



I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally

fascinated by the city.

Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are

left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of Rome,

these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built on.

Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the

acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.

The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon, in the

Roman forum.

Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we couldn't

perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.

This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though here

too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I

performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn, and I

did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm

enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman

bikini.

One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a

demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who

held the slave market.

The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool around,

eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out meals at a

very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and it's here

and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.

You can see us in these photo albums:

http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508



at the end of this one you can see my fashion show

http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218



This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus

http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#



Optime valete,

Livia

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Maior,
it turned out that none of the participants were polytheists.
They were either christians or atheists.
There were some students of the only high school in Bulgaria which teaches
Latin and Greek. I guess you could say those are cultural Romans. To me it
seems that if someone doesn't understand Latin and is not polytheist there
is not much left to define his/her "romanity" by.
However there were plenty of enthusiastic re-enactors.

Optime vale,
Livia

----- Original Message -----
From: "rory12001" <rory12001@...>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 4:20 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria


Salve Livia;
sounds fabulous. I wish I'd been there, I was checking your photos over at
Facebook. Both Plodiv and Kyustendil are beautiful. Were any of the
participants modern cultural Romans? or did it divide into re-enactors and
polytheists. Really impressive to see our common culture in action!
optime vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...>
wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
> now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the
> conventus in Rome.
> Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take the
> time to report.
>
> I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I attended,
> but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen
> (and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of unread
> and
> unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm in
> a
> hotel with a good Internet connection.
>
> Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6, 7,
> were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.
> I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,
> because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile, but
> some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:
> http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#
>
> This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in Sofia,
> and
> by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very
> helpful,
> and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out
> schedule
> a bit.
> The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were performed
> by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose
> powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.
> There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two women
> who
> were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who
> demonstrated
> the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles
> gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in
> Bulgarian.
> I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,
> including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was also
> a
> Roman food tasting.
> Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in
> ancient
> times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia Pautalia
> had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current
> thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The
> archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits, including
> a
> whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because
> Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still very
> interesting for those of us who come from abroad.
> On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the
> best spirit in Bulgaria).
>
> In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman
> reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the consular
> conventus in Rome.
> So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the
> conventus
> and go to Plovdiv.
>
> I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally
> fascinated by the city.
> Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are
> left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of
> Rome,
> these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built on.
> Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the
> acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.
> The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon, in
> the
> Roman forum.
> Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we
> couldn't
> perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.
> This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though
> here
> too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I
> performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn, and
> I
> did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm
> enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman
> bikini.
> One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a
> demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who
> held the slave market.
> The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool
> around,
> eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out meals at
> a
> very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and it's
> here
> and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.
> You can see us in these photo albums:
> http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508
>
> at the end of this one you can see my fashion show
> http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218
>
> This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus
> http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#
>
> Optime valete,
> Livia
>

Lentulus Liviae sal.

The cancellation happened on the first day of the Conventus. Until that, no one registered as participant, so it was cancelled.

Vale!

Cn. Lentulus
accensus consularis



--- Mar 6/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:

Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] June Conventus was canceled
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Martedì 6 luglio 2010, 08:54







 









Livia Lentulo sal.



You must be joking! The cancellation was never announced: on the contrary,

the conventus was publicized particularly the last week before it was

supposed to happen, and I know that Marcus Prometheus travelled there all

the way from Moldavia. The last news I had of the conventus was that Marcus

was having trouble finding the others.

At least Perusianus must have been there, and probably the other people from

Rome.



Optime vale,

Livia

----- Original Message -----

From: "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...>

To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:47 AM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] June Conventus was canceled



Cn. Lentulus accensus consularis Liviae Plautae omnibusque sal.



Unfortunately, the Conventus in Rome was canceled. No one announced their

participation. As far as I know, after the cancellation, the consul decided

to travel to Rome as a private trip, and probably met one of the Italic

leaders, Perusianus, to talk about various organizational matters.



Vale!



CN LENTVLVS

Accensus Consulis CFBQ



--- Lun 5/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:



Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>

Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria

A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Data: Lunedì 5 luglio 2010, 22:53



Salvete omnes,



now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the



conventus in Rome.



Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take the



time to report.



I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I attended,



but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen



(and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of unread and



unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm in a



hotel with a good Internet connection.



Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6, 7,



were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.



I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,



because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile, but



some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:



http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#



This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in Sofia, and



by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very helpful,



and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out schedule



a bit.



The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were performed



by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose



powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.



There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two women who



were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who demonstrated



the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles



gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in



Bulgarian.



I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,



including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was also a



Roman food tasting.



Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in ancient



times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia Pautalia



had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current



thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The



archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits, including a



whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because



Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still very



interesting for those of us who come from abroad.



On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the



best spirit in Bulgaria).



In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman



reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the consular



conventus in Rome.



So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the conventus



and go to Plovdiv.



I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally



fascinated by the city.



Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are



left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of Rome,



these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built on.



Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the



acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.



The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon, in the



Roman forum.



Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we couldn't



perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.



This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though here



too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I



performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn, and I



did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm



enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman



bikini.



One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a



demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who



held the slave market.



The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool around,



eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out meals at a



very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and it's here



and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.



You can see us in these photo albums:



http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508



at the end of this one you can see my fashion show



http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218



This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus



http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#



Optime valete,



Livia



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete Quirites!

The Conventus was NOT formally cancelled. Very few, not even my
Colleague gave a definitive answer if they would come. I went together
with a delegation of Swedes to Rome in the hope to meet at least some
Italians. I already knew that for example Senator Perusianus and
Praefectus Placidus wouldn't be able to come, but in the end NO ONE
came, except Marcus Prometheus Decius from Dacia (Moldavia). I had a
very nice talk with him about setting up a project in Dacia, but he
wasn't able to promise anything about that.

The aim for the Conventus was was to allow citizens meet face to face
to lower conflicts and to allow the Consuls to meet with magistrates
and citizens to talk about the future in a Roman enviroment.

The Conventus was sadly enough a failure. The five non-citizens from
Sweden that had joined on the trip with me and Vibius Minucius Falco
were very impressed with Rome and especially the antique parts. If
there had been a good Conventus I am sure we would have had at least
three new citizens ready to WORK for Nova Roma (they are already
members of the reenactment-roleplaying-theater oraganization "Society
Interactive History"), but as it is now that will not happen. Nova
Roma didn't impress.

It is hard to get anything RL to happen in Nova Roma too many just
talk and look for fights.

***********

6 jul 2010 kl. 07.47 skrev Cn. Cornelius Lentulus:

Cn. Lentulus accensus consularis Liviae Plautae omnibusque sal.


Unfortunately, the Conventus in Rome was canceled. No one announced
their participation. As far as I know, after the cancellation, the
consul decided to travel to Rome as a private trip, and probably met
one of the Italic leaders, Perusianus, to talk about various
organizational matters.

Vale!

CN LENTVLVS
Accensus Consulis CFBQ


--- Lun 5/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:

Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 5 luglio 2010, 22:53

















Salvete omnes,

now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the

conventus in Rome.

Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take
the

time to report.



I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I
attended,

but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen

(and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of
unread and

unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm
in a

hotel with a good Internet connection.



Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6,
7,

were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.

I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,

because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile,
but

some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:

http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#



This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in
Sofia, and

by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very
helpful,

and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out
schedule

a bit.

The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were
performed

by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose

powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.

There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two
women who

were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who
demonstrated

the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles

gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in

Bulgarian.

I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,

including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was
also a

Roman food tasting.

Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in
ancient

times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia
Pautalia

had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current

thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The

archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits,
including a

whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because

Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still
very

interesting for those of us who come from abroad.

On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the

best spirit in Bulgaria).



In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman

reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the
consular

conventus in Rome.

So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the
conventus

and go to Plovdiv.



I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally

fascinated by the city.

Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are

left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of
Rome,

these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built
on.

Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the

acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.

The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon,
in the

Roman forum.

Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we
couldn't

perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.

This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though
here

too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I

performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn,
and I

did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm

enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman

bikini.

One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a

demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who

held the slave market.

The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool
around,

eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out
meals at a

very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and
it's here

and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.

You can see us in these photo albums:

http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508



at the end of this one you can see my fashion show

http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218



This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus

http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#



Optime valete,

Livia

























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And perhaps, Maior, you did not read - or understand - the fact that the College of Augurs does not have the power to control a consul's authority to call the Senate or comitia. That's our law. You really need to read it at least once.

Valete,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
> I think people have missed the College of Augurs' postings
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/77357
>
> optime vale
> Maior

Lentulus K. Buteoni consuli sal.

I apologize for saying it was canceled. From all the information I had and from all impressions it looked definitively as a canceled Conventus.

I would like to know (as wiki content manager) what I have to write on the Conventus page? The Conventus was "canceled" or the Conventus "failed"?

Vale!



--- Mar 6/7/10, Christer Edling <christer.edling@...> ha scritto:

Da: Christer Edling <christer.edling@...>
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] REPORT about the Consular June Conventus in Rome which was NOT cancelled
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Martedì 6 luglio 2010, 09:45







 









Salvete Quirites!



The Conventus was NOT formally cancelled. Very few, not even my

Colleague gave a definitive answer if they would come. I went together

with a delegation of Swedes to Rome in the hope to meet at least some

Italians. I already knew that for example Senator Perusianus and

Praefectus Placidus wouldn't be able to come, but in the end NO ONE

came, except Marcus Prometheus Decius from Dacia (Moldavia). I had a

very nice talk with him about setting up a project in Dacia, but he

wasn't able to promise anything about that.



The aim for the Conventus was was to allow citizens meet face to face

to lower conflicts and to allow the Consuls to meet with magistrates

and citizens to talk about the future in a Roman enviroment.



The Conventus was sadly enough a failure. The five non-citizens from

Sweden that had joined on the trip with me and Vibius Minucius Falco

were very impressed with Rome and especially the antique parts. If

there had been a good Conventus I am sure we would have had at least

three new citizens ready to WORK for Nova Roma (they are already

members of the reenactment-roleplaying-theater oraganization "Society

Interactive History"), but as it is now that will not happen. Nova

Roma didn't impress.



It is hard to get anything RL to happen in Nova Roma too many just

talk and look for fights.



***********



6 jul 2010 kl. 07.47 skrev Cn. Cornelius Lentulus:



Cn. Lentulus accensus consularis Liviae Plautae omnibusque sal.



Unfortunately, the Conventus in Rome was canceled. No one announced

their participation. As far as I know, after the cancellation, the

consul decided to travel to Rome as a private trip, and probably met

one of the Italic leaders, Perusianus, to talk about various

organizational matters.



Vale!



CN LENTVLVS

Accensus Consulis CFBQ



--- Lun 5/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:



Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>

Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria

A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Data: Lunedì 5 luglio 2010, 22:53



Salvete omnes,



now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the



conventus in Rome.



Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take

the



time to report.



I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I

attended,



but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen



(and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of

unread and



unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm

in a



hotel with a good Internet connection.



Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6,

7,



were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.



I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,



because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile,

but



some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:



http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#



This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in

Sofia, and



by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very

helpful,



and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out

schedule



a bit.



The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were

performed



by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose



powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.



There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two

women who



were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who

demonstrated



the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles



gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in



Bulgarian.



I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,



including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was

also a



Roman food tasting.



Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in

ancient



times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia

Pautalia



had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current



thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The



archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits,

including a



whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because



Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still

very



interesting for those of us who come from abroad.



On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the



best spirit in Bulgaria).



In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman



reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the

consular



conventus in Rome.



So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the

conventus



and go to Plovdiv.



I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally



fascinated by the city.



Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are



left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of

Rome,



these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built

on.



Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the



acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.



The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon,

in the



Roman forum.



Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we

couldn't



perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.



This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though

here



too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I



performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn,

and I



did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm



enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman



bikini.



One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a



demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who



held the slave market.



The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool

around,



eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out

meals at a



very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and

it's here



and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.



You can see us in these photo albums:



http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/antichen-festival-plovdiv-20-06-2010.511508



at the end of this one you can see my fashion show



http://fenrirlokison.snimka.bg/culture/vtori-antichen-festival-2010-plovdiv.511218



This one is by A. Vitellius Celsus



http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/FsiORB#



Optime valete,



Livia



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------



Yahoo! Groups Links



*****************

Vale



Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus



Consul Iterum

Princeps Senatus et Flamen Palatualis

Civis Romanus sum

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Main_Page

************************************************

Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

"I'll either find a way or make one"

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Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est pridie Nonas Quinctilis; haec dies nefastus est.

"Fertur autem in carminibus Marcii vatis, cuius duo volumina inlata
sunt in senatum, inventum esse ita scriptum: Hostem, Romani, si ex
agro expellere vultis, vomicam quae gentium venit longe, Apollini
censeo vovendos ludos qui quotannis comiter Apollini fiant. His ludis
faciendis praesit is praetor qui ius populo plebique dabit summum:
decemviri Graeco ritu hostiis sacra faciant. Hoc si recte facietis,
gaudebitis semper fietque res publica melior: nam is divus extinguet
perduelles vestros qui vestros campos pascunt placide. Ex hoc carmine
cum procurandi gratia dies unus rebus divinis impensus esset, postea
senatus consultum factum: uti decemviri, quo magis instruerentur de
ludis Apollini agundis reque divina recte facienda, libros Sibyllinos
adirent. In quibus cum eadem reperta nuntiatum esset, censuerunt
Patres: Apollini ludos vovendos faciendosque, inque eam rem duodecim
milia aeris praetori et duas hostias maiores dari, decemvirisque
praeceptum: ut Graeco ritu hisce hostiis sacrum facerent, Apollini
bove aurato et capris duabus albis auratis, Latonae bove femina
aurata. Ludos in circo populus coronatus spectare iussus. Haec
praecipue traditur origo ludorum Apollinarium." - Macrobius,
Saturnalia XVII.28-30

"Several portents had been announced, and the omens drawn from the
sacrificial victims were mostly unfavourable. News came from Campania
that two temples in Capua - those of Fortune and Mars - as well as
several sepulchral monuments had been struck by lightning. To such an
extent does a depraved superstition see the work of the Gods in the
most insignificant trifles, that it was seriously reported that rats
had gnawed the gold in the temple of Jupiter in Cumae. At Casinum a
swarm of bees had settled in the forum; at Ostia a gate and part of
the wall had been struck by lightning; at Caere a vulture had flown
into the temple of Jupiter, and at Vulsinii the waters of the lake
had run with blood. In consequence of these portents a day of special
intercession was ordered. For several days full-grown victims had
been sacrificed without giving any propitious indications, and it was
long before the peace of the gods could be secured. It
was on the heads of the consuls that the direful mischance
prognosticated by these portents fell, the State remained unharmed.
The Games of Apollo had been celebrated for the first time in the
consulship of Q. Fulvius and Appius Claudius under the
superintendence of the City praetor, P. Cornelius Sulla. Subsequently
all the City praetors celebrated them in turn, but they used to vow
them for one year only, and there was no fixed day for their
celebration. This year a serious epidemic attacked both the City and
the country districts, but it resulted more frequently in protracted
than in fatal illness. In consequence of this epidemic special
intercessions were appointed at all the chapels throughout the City,
and P. Licinius Varus, the City praetor, was instructed to propose a
measure to the people providing that the Games of Apollo should
always be celebrated on the same day. He was the first to celebrate
them under this rule, and the day fixed for their celebration was
July 5th, which was henceforth observed as the day." - Livy, "History of Rome 27.23

"'Romans, if you wish to expel the enemy and the ulcer which has come from afar, I advise, that games should be vowed, which may be performed in a cheerful manner annually to Apollo; when the people shall have given a portion of money from the public coffers, that private individuals then contribute, each according to his ability. That the praetor shall preside in the celebration of these games, who holds the supreme administration of justice to the people and commons. Let the decemviri perform sacrifice with victims after the Grecian fashion. If you do these things properly you will ever rejoice, and your affairs will be more prosperous, for that deity will destroy your enemies who now, composedly, feed upon your plains.' They took one day to explain this prophecy. The next day a decree of the senate was passed, that the decemviri should inspect the books relating to the celebration of games and sacred rites in honour of Apollo. After they had been consulted, and a report made to the senate, the fathers voted, that "games should be vowed to Apollo and celebrated; and that when the games were concluded, twelve thousand asses should be given to the praetor to defray the expense of sacred ceremonies, and also two victims of the larger sort.' A second decree was passed, that 'the decemviri should perform sacrifice in the Grecian mode, and with the following victims: to Apollo, with a gilded ox, and two white goats gilded; to Latona, with a gilded heifer.' When the praetor was about to celebrate the games in the Circus Maximus, he issued an order, that during the celebration of the games, the people should pay a contribution, as large as was convenient, for the service of Apollo. This is the origin of the Apollinarian games, which were vowed and celebrated in order to victory, and not restoration to health, as is commonly supposed. The people viewed the spectacle in garlands; the matrons made supplications; the people in general feasted in the courts of their houses, throwing the doors open; and the day was distinguished by every description of ceremony." - op.cit. 25.9-15


During a rather bad year (212 BC) in the Second Punic War (though they
did have a good win at Syracuse) and several years after their
crushing defeat by the Carthaginian Hannibal at the Battle of Cannae,
the Romans consulted the ancient seer Marcius for his reading from the
sacred texts, the Sibylline Oracles. Marcius advised them to hold
games in honour of the Greek sun god, Apollon, in order to obtain his
aid. Four years later when a plague broke out, the senators of Rome
decided to make the Ludi Apollinares permanent and over the course of
the next two centuries the games came to be a festival lasting eight
days, the principal sacrifice being made on July 13.

It was stated by some of the ancient annalists that these ludi were
instituted for the purpose of obtaining from Apollo the protection of
human life during the hottest season of summer; but Livy and Macrobius
adopt the account founded upon the most authentic document, the
carmina Marciana themselves, that the Apollinarian games were
instituted partly to obtain the aid of Apollo in expelling the
Carthaginians from Italy, and partly to preserve, through the favour
of the god, the republic from all dangers. The oracle suggested that
the games should be held every year under the superintendence of the
praetor urbanus, and that ten men should perform the sacrifices
according to Greek rites. The senate complying with the advice of the
oracle made two senatusconsulta; one that, at the end of the games,
the praetor should receive 12,000 asses to be expended on the
solemnities and sacrifices, and another that the ten men should
sacrifice to Apollo, according to Greek rites, a bull with gilt horns
and two white goats also with gilt horns, and to Latona a heifer with
gilt horns. The games themselves were held in the Circus Maximus, the
spectators were adorned with chaplets, and each citizen gave a
contribution towards defraying the expenses. The Roman matrons
performed supplications, the people took their meals in the propatulum
with open doors, and the whole day — for the festival lasted only one
day — was filled up with ceremonies and various other rites. At this
first celebration of the ludi Apollinares no decree was made
respecting the annual repetition suggested by the oracle, so that in
the first year they were simply ludi votivi or indictivi. The year
after (211 BC) the senate, on the proposal of the praetor Calpurnius,
decreed that they should be repeated, and that in future they should
be vowed afresh every year. The day on which they were held varied
every year according to circumstances. A few years later, however (208
BC), when Rome and its vicinity were visited by a plague, the praetor
urbanus, P. Licinius Varus, brought a bill before the people to ordain
that the Apollinarian games should in future always be vowed and held
on a certain day (dies status), on the 6th of July, which day
henceforward remained a dies sollemnis. The games thus became votivi
et stativi, and continued to be conducted by the praetor urbanus.

Valete bene!

Cato

Salve;

I've had friends in the Scottish Rite and since there is a local body of
that Rite in Columbus, Ohio I might take advantage of that. My lodge
membership is in a distant town so I'll likely change it to a lodge that is
closer because I'd like to get more active within Masonry. Let me know if
you find the link to that site.

Vale;

Modianus

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator <
famila.ulleria.venii@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salve frater;
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:16 PM, David Kling wrote:
> >
> > Salve;
> >
> > I have always been interested in the Scottish Rite, having read some of
> > Albert Pike's Morals and Dogmas. I've enjoyed Chapter and Council and
> have
> > thought about Scottish Rite. Your thoughts?
> >
> > Recently I was in Washington, DC and instead of waiting at the airport
> for a
> > couple of hours I got on the metro and went to the George Washington
> Masonic
> > Memorial, even if for only 20 minutes. Lovely place.
> >
> > Vale;
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus
> >
>
> I did go through the 29 degrees within the Scottish Rite to see what
> the lessons were, which amplify those of the 3 Degrees in the Blue
> Lodge. I spent most all my time in my home lodge, though, as Chaplain
> and in ritual work.
>
> I did not go York Rite as I understand there to be an oath involved
> which defines one as a defender of the Christian faith. Two college
> friends with whom my wife and I have kept close ties over the years
> completed both Scottish and York Rite, but have also spent most of
> their time with their local lodge.
>
> So, York Rite is fine for those who can make that oath at the appropriate
> level.
>
> "Morals and Dogma" is quite the tome. Albert Pike was a world class
> thinker in my view and crammed some many pearls of wisdom between
> those two covers.
>
> There does exists a Masonic Pagans list...I'll see if I still have the
> link.
>
> Vale - Venator
>

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Cn. Lentulus magister aranearius P. Memmio et K. Buteoni coss. et C. Curio curatori rei informatiae et Senatui Populoque Novo Romano s. p. s.:

(Cn. Lentulus send many greetings to the Consuls P. Memmius and K. Buteo, and to the Curator Rei Informaticae C. Curius, and to the Nova Roman Senate and People:)


S. VOS RESQVE PVBLICA V. B. E .E. Q. V.


Please let me to be brief, consules amplissimi P. Memmi et K. Bueto, et C. Curi curator rei informaticae, patres conscripti et Quirites, in a very important question that would deserve a much more serious address from me, especially as I'm magister aranearius.

I'm magister aranearius, but my office is not the one that it was in older times in Nova Roma. Old magistri aranearii were in charge of the full website, of its programming and its infrastructure: now my office is just a senate appointment, and my job is merely to coordinate the other volunteer editors of the NR wiki. Still I feel responsibility for the entire website, given that it's the only instrument that makes us able to work as a community, even if we are scattered all over the world.

Consuls, Curator, Senators and Citizens!

You are all aware of the canceled senate item about the proposal of paying 10.000 USD to former citizen T. Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus (who is a professional programmer and an expert of the current structure and programs of our website) to design and set up a new website, a databse which is up to date to current technology, a system that will allow to do everything automatically so that conducting elections be no more difficult than clicking on a button. The new website would make it possible that our magistrates organize elections, appointments and updates themselves, without relying on the help of a professional IT person whose time is very limited, and from whom our current system takes away a lot of time if he is willing to help, so difficult and hardly manageable our current system is.

Our current system requires a programmer to manage a simple election! That's a nonsense in 2010! And now we don't have programmer. The only person who is familiar with our current system is T. Octavius Pius. He could create the new system which would make it possible to ordinary people to manage it. It would cost 10.000 USD to him to build this new website.

I understand if the senate thinks that we can't afford 10.000 USD to pay which is close to half of our treasury. I understand if many think that there should be an alternative. However, before you reject the proposal of T. Octacius Pius, consider that *to have* former citizen T. Octavius Pius who both knows what to change, how to change, and can change it, who is familiar with our needs, with the complex laws that regulate our elections, who actually organized elections, it is a heavenly gift from the Gods. Any solution, let it be cheaper, will be much more complicated and unsure.

And remember: we do not only need a working voting system technology. We need a completely new Citizen Database, because the current one is broken. We need to create a message board to it, possibly our own forum, too, and the whole should include advantages of such modern free source features like those of the Facebook, Youtube and so forth. I am not saying all these things are to be set up right now as a priority, but any change we will make shall open the possibilities for development. It should at least make the way open for such improvements like having a community interface in our website.

Well, I don't know what the plans of T. Octavius Pius were, but I'm sure the new website was planned in a way that it makes open the way for such later improvements.

Consider all these things, esteemed consuls and senators, think about it, citizens, because T. Octavius Pius would be able to do this, alone from our numbers, alone from the people who actually know how NR works and what are the expectations for the Album Civium, voting system etc.

If you have considered this, and you still think that you can't afford 10.000 USD for these necessary changes, I would like to propose you an alternative solution, my own initiative, to achieve the same goals, in a less easy but cheaper way.

We have to use the advantage that Nova Roma is worldwide.

We have citizens in expensive countries but in cheaper countries as well. Mine is one of the cheaper countries. And I, as magister aranearius, can help Nova Roma to find a reliable programmer who could help us to create the system we need. Perhaps there are others, in other cheaper countries, who can also try to find a programmer. What I can offer it is, however, that I am a longstanding citizen of Nova Roma, I know what we need, and I know how our election system works, I know the laws, I was a Custos (thus involved in NR elections internally), as censorial scribe with years of experience working on the censorial database I know the system and its needs, and I will be able to explain to the programmer what exactly we want, and how exactly we want it.

I can offer this and I will take personal responsibility for the work.

I do it because I am no longer able to suffer what's going on in Nova Roma.

I do it only because I love Nova Roma, I am, I was and, if Gods help, I will be always dedicated to Nova Roma, I do not consider it just a project or a possibility, but I consider it as my home, my spiritual home, my nation, and I plan my whole life as being involved to Nova Roma until death. I know, big words... but I hope my deeds speak for my words, and in this website crisis I would like to do the best I am able to do.

And the best I can do is this: to offer my help to find a cheaper service within some weeks in my city, Budapest (I shall note I have some good acquaintances), and to sit beside to this programmer, and to tell him step by step what we need, to lead his hands, and to present the new NR database and voting system within a few months, possibly until the end of summer. This is what I can offer as help, and something more:

You know that I have almost no money, I am a student and I work as a Latin teacher with partial employment. My income is around 130 USD per month. I have, however, a few saved money, and I am determined to put a part of it into Nova Roma, especially into this project, to save us from this unbearable trouble we have with our website.

If the senate decides to follow my suggestion and entrusts me with the task to find and work together with a programmer to create our new infrastructure, I am willing to offer 100 USD to the treasury of Nova Roma to pay for the costs of the person.
I'm sure the costs will be less than 10.000, but in this phase I don't know the exact prices.

So, I offer my help to find the professional solution in a cheaper way, and I also offer to donate 100 USD to help paying the costs.

With this donation, I also ask our fellow citizens to take sides with me, and to offer some money to donate to this project. Whatever small amount of money, 5 USD, 10 USD or any amount can help a lot if we keep together and put together a fund to save our website.

I'm sure if we put some money together FOR NOVA ROMA, FOR OUR PATRIA, we all will be better persons, better friends, and finally better community. We will feel the blessing feeling of mutual responsibility, the sense of community, the sense of duty.

And, finally, I'm sure that if we, private citizens, collect a certain amount of money, our senators will be much more willing to vote 'yes' about spending money from the treasury, and with our donations plus the money from the republic put together, we will be able to save the treasury, the website, and ourselves from our current chaos.

So here we go --

Donations for the new website (Ver.0.2 -Solution by A Programmer in Budapes):

1) 100 USD - Cn. Cornelius Lentulus








CVRATE VTI VALEATIS RESQVE PVBLICA VOBISCVM VALEAT!


CN. CORNELIVS LENTVLVS PONTIFEX
MAGISTER ARANEARIVS






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Salvete Quirites

Gaius wrote on Roman law: "The first division of things is into two classes; for some are subject to divine law, some to human law. Within divine law some things are sacrum, some religiosum. Sacrum are those consecrated to the Gods; things that are religiosum are dedicated to the Di Inferi. (Institutiones Iustiniani II. 1-11)."

A further statement on religiosum is that, "It is opportune to be binding, what is prohibited by religiosum . . . For (whatever) reason a thing is said to be religiosum, whatever exceeds the (normal) practice of the religio is said to be superstitio, and as such, these corrupt things that pollute sacraments were assigned to what vitiates religious practice (GRF Nigidius 4; P. Nigidius Figulus, Commentariorum Grammaticorum liber XI: Gell. 4.9.1)."

A couple of examples of religiosum were provided by C. Aelius Gallus, in De Significatione Verborum Quae ad Ius Civile Pertinent: "What are made by men without permission, that is, without the (expressed) will of the Gods, is religiosum. In general such things would be like when a man enters the Temple of the Bona Dea, or where laws are carried before the people in violation of adverse auspices."

Elections held under invalid auspices are prohibited as religiosum under divine law. No wrangling, no twisting of meaning, no selective editing by non-practitioners of the religio Romana changes what is true in the mos maiorum. No citation from a Christian dictionary written in 1875 bears any weight against what Roman scholars had to say of their own tradition or what recent scholarship has come to learn. Further, civil law does not supercede divine law nor does it supercede those determinations based on religious law made by sacerdotal collegia. Vitium is vitium; it vitiates religious ceremonies, such as the taking of auspices. And when auspices are vitiated it is prohibited to conduct comitia. That is what divine law states, and this is the only law that pertains to religious matters.

Those who act contrary to what is prohibited as religiosum are, according to Roman law, accursed and dedicated to the Di inferni. Those who advocate that others not abide with the religious proscriptions of our State religion, under Nova Roma law, violate the Constitution. For in doing so, they advocate undermining the religio Romana as our State religion and replacing it with some sham. The Religio Romana was and is the foundation of Nova Roma just as "Romulus by his auspices, and Numa by his establishment of our rituals," according to Cicero, "laid the foundation of our Res publica (De nat. Deorum 3.5)."

Valete et vadete in pace Deorum

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus

Pontifex Maximus et Magister Collegium Augurum

Salve Collega,

Just a precision, amice, in order that our Quirites have the exact information.

> Very few, not even my Colleague gave a definitive answer if they > would come.

Just on the 'definitive'. :-)

I had informed you, from the moment you decided to organize a conventus at this period that I would not be sure being there, for this period is every year a very busy time, professionally, for me.

I have also informed you, and re-said it to you in Sweden, that I would know if I could finally join very probably just the day before for the day after, what finally happened and, at this time, the "shooting-window" open to me then was not a large enough to allow me to join you in Rome. At this time, I could, unfortunately, not confirm to you what I would finally do for you were still in Rome. :-)

Vale,


Albucius cos.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Christer Edling <christer.edling@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Quirites!
>
> The Conventus was NOT formally cancelled. Very few, not even my
> Colleague gave a definitive answer if they would come. I went together
> with a delegation of Swedes to Rome in the hope to meet at least some
> Italians. I already knew that for example Senator Perusianus and
> Praefectus Placidus wouldn't be able to come, but in the end NO ONE
> came, except Marcus Prometheus Decius from Dacia (Moldavia). I had a
> very nice talk with him about setting up a project in Dacia, but he
> wasn't able to promise anything about that.
>
> The aim for the Conventus was was to allow citizens meet face to face
> to lower conflicts and to allow the Consuls to meet with magistrates
> and citizens to talk about the future in a Roman enviroment.
>
> The Conventus was sadly enough a failure. The five non-citizens from
> Sweden that had joined on the trip with me and Vibius Minucius Falco
> were very impressed with Rome and especially the antique parts. If
> there had been a good Conventus I am sure we would have had at least
> three new citizens ready to WORK for Nova Roma (they are already
> members of the reenactment-roleplaying-theater oraganization "Society
> Interactive History"), but as it is now that will not happen. Nova
> Roma didn't impress.
>
> It is hard to get anything RL to happen in Nova Roma too many just
> talk and look for fights.
>
> ***********
>
> 6 jul 2010 kl. 07.47 skrev Cn. Cornelius Lentulus:
>
> Cn. Lentulus accensus consularis Liviae Plautae omnibusque sal.
>
>
> Unfortunately, the Conventus in Rome was canceled. No one announced
> their participation. As far as I know, after the cancellation, the
> consul decided to travel to Rome as a private trip, and probably met
> one of the Italic leaders, Perusianus, to talk about various
> organizational matters.
>
> Vale!
>
> CN LENTVLVS
> Accensus Consulis CFBQ
>
>
> --- Lun 5/7/10, L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...> ha scritto:
>
> Da: L. Livia Plauta <livia.plauta@...>
> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] June conventus in Rome and festivals in Bulgaria
> A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Lunedٌ 5 luglio 2010, 22:53
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> now some weeks have passed, and we never received any reports from the
>
> conventus in Rome.
>
> Who was there? What did they do? I'm curious: I hope someone will take
> the
>
> time to report.
>
>
>
> I know, I slacked off too, failing to report about the events I
> attended,
>
> but I have the excuse that I have been over three weeks with only stolen
>
> (and slow) wi-fi Internet access, so that coused me a backlog of
> unread and
>
> unanswered emails that took more than ten days to process now that I'm
> in a
>
> hotel with a good Internet connection.
>
>
>
> Some links about the Ulpia Pautalia (Kyustendil) festival of June 5,6,
> 7,
>
> were posted by M. Lucretius Agricola.
>
> I have posted a lot of photos (of the place, but not of the festival,
>
> because I couldn't take photos when involved) on my Facebook profile,
> but
>
> some additional ones by A. Vitellius Celsus can be found here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.bg/LastRoman81/UlpiaPautalia2010#
>
>
>
> This festival was organized by A. Vitellius Celsus, who lives in
> Sofia, and
>
> by a friend of his from Kyustendil. The city authorities were very
> helpful,
>
> and we had a very good time, despite the rain, which disrupted out
> schedule
>
> a bit.
>
> The religious ceremonies (re-enactment only, not real ones) were
> performed
>
> by Ti. Claudius Drusus, the only citizen NR has in Estonia, and whose
>
> powerful presence and voice made them unforgettable.
>
> There were also legionaries, gladiators from Varna, among them two
> women who
>
> were extraordinarily good, and a group from Veliko Tarnovo who
> demonstrated
>
> the use of Roman ballistae. The program included the showing of "Miles
>
> gloriosus", the play by Plautus, unfortunately for us foreigners, in
>
> Bulgarian.
>
> I presented my Roman fashion show, with around 20 kilos of clothes,
>
> including tunicae, pallae, stolae, togae, pallia, lacernae. There was
> also a
>
> Roman food tasting.
>
> Our accommodation was on the top of the Hisarlika hill, which was in
> ancient
>
> times the town acropolis, and had a temple to Aesculapius. Ulpia
> Pautalia
>
> had hot mineral springs which were used by the Romans, and the current
>
> thermal baths are right next to the ruins of the Roman ones. The
>
> archaological museum is small, but it has interesting exhibits,
> including a
>
> whole Roman chariot. These chariots are not rare in Bulgaria, because
>
> Thracian custom was to bury them with their owner, but they are still
> very
>
> interesting for those of us who come from abroad.
>
> On the whole we had a very good time (and a lot of home-made rakia - the
>
> best spirit in Bulgaria).
>
>
>
> In Kyustendil I learned that in two weeks there would be another Roman
>
> reenactment festival in Plovdiv, exactly in the same dates as the
> consular
>
> conventus in Rome.
>
> So, prompted also by money considerations, I decided to desert the
> conventus
>
> and go to Plovdiv.
>
>
>
> I don't regret it, because the festival was a success, and I was totally
>
> fascinated by the city.
>
> Plovdiv was founded on seven hills, like Rome (unfortunately only 5 are
>
> left, because two were strip-mined for granite), but, unlike those of
> Rome,
>
> these hills preserved their steep nature and are not completely built
> on.
>
> Part of the festival took place on the Nebet Tepe hill, which was the
>
> acropolis of the ancient town, and the view was breathtaking.
>
> The other part of the festival took place in the reconstructed odeon,
> in the
>
> Roman forum.
>
> Plovdiv also has a spectacular Roman theatre, but unfortunately we
> couldn't
>
> perform there, because it was occupied by an opera festival.
>
> This festival had less participalts than the one in Kyustendil, though
> here
>
> too there were legionaries and gladiators, so my part was bigger. I
>
> performed a ritual on Friday for Venus and one on Saturday for Saturn,
> and I
>
> did my Roman fashion show. Here, however the weather was finally warm
>
> enough, and it allowed me to add another element to the show, the Roman
>
> bikini.
>
> One of the organizers of the festival is an excellent cook and made a
>
> demonstration of Roman food, which was delicious. He is also the one who
>
> held the slave market.
>
> The looser program of the festival allowed us a lot of time to fool
> around,
>
> eat, drink and make friends. Thanks to the organizers we had out
> meals at a
>
> very nice garden restaurant at the very top of the Nebet Tepe, and
> it's here
>
> and in its surroundings that we spent a lot of time.
>
> You can see us in these photo albums:
>
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Magistratus electi/-ae, Quirites et Plebeii, salvete !



Warm congratulations, first to Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria, our fresh aed. plebis!



Sincere congratulations to our new aedilis curulis, Lucia Iulia Aquila, as well to quaestor Quintus Servilius Priscus and rogatrix Raina Cornelia Aeternia.



I think that the fact the results of the comitia populi were displayed yesterday on a dies nefastus publicus will not be considered as an impietas that should bring their cancellation: our electi candidates do not deserve to live such a situation!



Valete,





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Cn. Lentulus consulibus, curatori rei informaticae, Quiritibus SPD


After having been informed by the curator rei informaticae about the imprecise information I used in my previous open letter to the consuls, the curator, the senate and the people, I make some corrections. Consider it as an "Appendix" to my previous offering:

I mentioned the need for the new website, while it was imprecise, because, more exactly, we are not talking about a website, we are
talking about web based programs which are two totally different
things. Former citizen T. Octavius Pius would have not designed a website, instead he would have
programmed a new cista and album civium for us alongside designing a
new database structure.

C. Curius Saturninus, curator rei informaticae, also gave more information about the situation. The senate was offered a full report by him and further
information by him during the short discussion we could have before the consular veto of P. Memmius. In that
discussion came also up a very important piece of information about the
costs: The price offered by T. Octavius Pius was not only the best from two
candidates, that were only ones presented as response to my public call
for offers, but also a very cheap price as indicated in my consultation
with two outside companies.

In the light of this, I advise the Consuls and the Conscript Fathers to accept T. Octavius Pius' proposal to solve our information technology problems, as I have suggested it as the best solution in my previous open letter. But if, and only if, the solution proposed by T. Octavius Pius can not be accepted by you, Conscript Fathers, I will be here at your disposal as explained in more words in my previous open letter to you.


CVRATE VTI VALEATIS RESQVE PVLICA VOBISCVM VALEAT!

CN. LENTVLVS
MAGISTER ARANEARIVS





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Cato Piscino omnibusque in foro SPD

You may write walls of text for as long as you like, Piscinus. You cannot, by fiat, simply ignore or overturn the law of the Respublica in an attempt to usurp the authority of the government of the Respublica.

The Constitution is clear. You are attempting to subvert it, to ignore it, and yet no amount of condescension or show of imaginary piety can change it.

And yes, I say imaginary because you do not know, as has been made clear, what you are talking about. You have simply made up a religio that suits your needs, not one that reflects the practices of ancient Rome. You have misinterpreted and misread - willingly and knowingly creating a sham; your "scholarship" has been shown for what it is: nonsense. You cite sources that you do not understand; you mistranslate sources to suit your desires; you pick and chose what you like and dislike until the cultus Deorum is left a Frankenstein-ish monster, unrecognizable as Roman but clearly Piscinian. This is clear from real scholars, men and women who have actually studied these practices and their history. You are *not* one of them.

I may not practice the cultus Deorum privately but by the gods I am a senator of this Respublica and will not stand hear and listen to your nonsense anymore while you try to overthrow the legal foundations of the Respublica with your arrogance.

Those who act contrary to the law will answer to the law.

Valete,

Cato

Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit

The three augures in the Collegium Augurum are also senatores and we in turn
ignore your arrogance.

Vale,

Modianus

On Jul 6, 2010 8:29 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:



Cato Piscino omnibusque in foro SPD

You may write walls of text for as long as you like, Piscinus. You cannot,
by fiat, simply ignore or overturn the law of the Respublica in an attempt
to usurp the authority of the government of the Respublica.

The Constitution is clear. You are attempting to subvert it, to ignore it,
and yet no amount of condescension or show of imaginary piety can change it.


And yes, I say imaginary because you do not know, as has been made clear,
what you are talking about. You have simply made up a religio that suits
your needs, not one that reflects the practices of ancient Rome. You have
misinterpreted and misread - willingly and knowingly creating a sham; your
"scholarship" has been shown for what it is: nonsense. You cite sources that
you do not understand; you mistranslate sources to suit your desires; you
pick and chose what you like and dislike until the cultus Deorum is left a
Frankenstein-ish monster, unrecognizable as Roman but clearly Piscinian.
This is clear from real scholars, men and women who have actually studied
these practices and their history. You are *not* one of them.

I may not practice the cultus Deorum privately but by the gods I am a
senator of this Respublica and will not stand hear and listen to your
nonsense anymore while you try to overthrow the legal foundations of the
Respublica with your arrogance.

Those who act contrary to the law will answer to the law.

Valete,

Cato




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Cato Modiano sal.

Yet you still cannot ignore the Constitution. Are you willing to take that step?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> The three augures in the Collegium Augurum are also senatores and we in turn
> ignore your arrogance.
>
> Vale,
>
> Modianus
>
> On Jul 6, 2010 8:29 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Cato Piscino omnibusque in foro SPD
>
> You may write walls of text for as long as you like, Piscinus. You cannot,
> by fiat, simply ignore or overturn the law of the Respublica in an attempt
> to usurp the authority of the government of the Respublica.
>
> The Constitution is clear. You are attempting to subvert it, to ignore it,
> and yet no amount of condescension or show of imaginary piety can change it.
>
>
> And yes, I say imaginary because you do not know, as has been made clear,
> what you are talking about. You have simply made up a religio that suits
> your needs, not one that reflects the practices of ancient Rome. You have
> misinterpreted and misread - willingly and knowingly creating a sham; your
> "scholarship" has been shown for what it is: nonsense. You cite sources that
> you do not understand; you mistranslate sources to suit your desires; you
> pick and chose what you like and dislike until the cultus Deorum is left a
> Frankenstein-ish monster, unrecognizable as Roman but clearly Piscinian.
> This is clear from real scholars, men and women who have actually studied
> these practices and their history. You are *not* one of them.
>
> I may not practice the cultus Deorum privately but by the gods I am a
> senator of this Respublica and will not stand hear and listen to your
> nonsense anymore while you try to overthrow the legal foundations of the
> Respublica with your arrogance.
>
> Those who act contrary to the law will answer to the law.
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Quirites!



3 hours left to VOTE for PRAETORS !!!



(album civium page, line "vote" - "vote here"). All 5 names are in your voting page.





Valete omnes,







P. Memmius Albucius

consul

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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit

Neither do I, or my colleagues, see things as you do. We believe we are
fulfilling our constitutional responsibilities, you don't see it that way.
What is new?

Vale,

Modianus

On Jul 6, 2010 9:02 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:



Cato Modiano sal.

Yet you still cannot ignore the Constitution. Are you willing to take that
step?

Vale,

Cato



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo M...

> On Jul 6, 2010 8:29 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
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Cato Modiano sal.

Then why is the argument based on interpretations - wildly faulty as they might be - of augural law? Why is it not based on the Constitution? Lindersky and Lintott and Vaahtera and all the king's horses and all the king's men have no relevance whatsoever to our law when it comes to a question of Constitutional authority.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> Neither do I, or my colleagues, see things as you do. We believe we are
> fulfilling our constitutional responsibilities, you don't see it that way.
> What is new?
>
> Vale,
>
> Modianus
>
> On Jul 6, 2010 9:02 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
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> Cato Modiano sal.
>
> Yet you still cannot ignore the Constitution. Are you willing to take that
> step?
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@> wrote:
> >
> > Caeso Fabius Buteo M...
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> > On Jul 6, 2010 8:29 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@> wrote:
> >
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> >
> > Cato Piscino omnibusque in foro S...
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit

I'm not going to debate this issue with you. Continue to grand stand if it
suits you.

Vale,

Modianus

On Jul 6, 2010 9:33 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:



Cato Modiano sal.

Then why is the argument based on interpretations - wildly faulty as they
might be - of augural law? Why is it not based on the Constitution?
Lindersky and Lintott and Vaahtera and all the king's horses and all the
king's men have no relevance whatsoever to our law when it comes to a
question of Constitutional authority.



Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...> wrote:
>

> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> Neither do I, or my colleagues, see things a...

> On Jul 6, 2010 9:02 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
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> Cato Modiano sal.
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That has nothing to do with the results for the elections in the Comitia Populi Tributa or the Comitia Plebis Tributa. Those elections were valid.
That has to do with the current election still ongoing in the Comitia Centuriata. Please, let's not confuse the issue. There's already enough confusion in NR.
 
Maxima Valeria Messallina
 
 
 


 
 

<<--- On Mon, 7/5/10, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:
M. Hortensia C. Petronio spd;
I think people have missed the College of Augurs' postings
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/77357

optime vale
Maior>>

>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> C. Petronius Quiritibus s.p.d.,
>
> > I. Election of One Aedilis Curulis
> > Lucia Iulia Aquila received 19 tribal votes.
> > Gaius Equitius Cato received 5 tribal votes.
> > 8 tribes were tied between L.Iulia Aquila and G.Equitius Cato.
> > Three tribes did not vote for Aedilis Curulis.>
> > There was no need to break ties.>
> > Lucia Iulia Aquila was elected Aedilis Curulis.
>
> Feliciter Juliae Aquilae! As I sang...
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> "Vota vovens decori Cybeles pura, atque Quiriti
> Esto Turrigerae cordi, tu Iulia victrix."
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> Magna Mater was with you, amica Julia.
> And now: Let Games come! I guess that Apollo is impatient.
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> > II. Two Quaestores needed, one candidate
> > Quintus Servilius Priscus was elected.
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> Gratulations!
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> > III: Two Rogatores needed, one candidate
> > Raina Cornelia Aeternia was elected.
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> Long live our noble Raina...
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> Optime valete.
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> C. Petronius Dexter

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Then I think we need to place the three Augurs on trial for violating the
Nova Roman Constitution.

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Kling <tau.athanasios@...>wrote:

>
>
> Caeso Fabius Buteo Modianus Catoni salutem dicit
>
> The three augures in the Collegium Augurum are also senatores and we in
> turn
> ignore your arrogance.
>
> Vale,
>
> Modianus
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2010 8:29 AM, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...<catoinnyc%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Cato Piscino omnibusque in foro SPD
>
> You may write walls of text for as long as you like, Piscinus. You cannot,
> by fiat, simply ignore or overturn the law of the Respublica in an attempt
> to usurp the authority of the government of the Respublica.
>
> The Constitution is clear. You are attempting to subvert it, to ignore it,
> and yet no amount of condescension or show of imaginary piety can change
> it.
>
> And yes, I say imaginary because you do not know, as has been made clear,
> what you are talking about. You have simply made up a religio that suits
> your needs, not one that reflects the practices of ancient Rome. You have
> misinterpreted and misread - willingly and knowingly creating a sham; your
> "scholarship" has been shown for what it is: nonsense. You cite sources
> that
> you do not understand; you mistranslate sources to suit your desires; you
> pick and chose what you like and dislike until the cultus Deorum is left a
> Frankenstein-ish monster, unrecognizable as Roman but clearly Piscinian.
> This is clear from real scholars, men and women who have actually studied
> these practices and their history. You are *not* one of them.
>
> I may not practice the cultus Deorum privately but by the gods I am a
> senator of this Respublica and will not stand hear and listen to your
> nonsense anymore while you try to overthrow the legal foundations of the
> Respublica with your arrogance.
>
> Those who act contrary to the law will answer to the law.
>
> Valete,
>
> Cato
>
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>
>


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