Cato Liviae sal.

Alanis Morissette, I think it was! It was pretty awesome :)

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Sulla,
> Maior's posts don't remind me of it, but here you mention one my favourite
> films. It's certainly one of the most hilarious films in the history of
> cinema. I specially like the end, when it turns our God is a woman.
>
> Vale,
> Livia
>
> > Ave,
> >
> > I understand what you are saying, but to relate it to the situation along
> > this thread, when Maior posts, for some reason I am reminded of the movie
> > Dogma. A very good Kevin Smith movie where they are constantly saying how
> > blind belief in Dogma is what is allowing the two Angels (Ben Affleck and
> > Matt Damon) for the end of the Earth. If you haven't seen this movie
> > Affleck and Damon are two angels and they are trying to get back to Heaven
> > and they found a loophole in Catholic Dogma (hence the name of the movie)
> > and it follows their attempt to get back to Heaven regardless of the
> > consequences and the other characters of the movie (Selma Hayeck, Chris
> > Rock, Fiorentino, and Alan Rickman play the other side who are trying to
> > prevent Affleck and Damon from finding a loophole in Catholic Dogma and
> > thus
> > bring about the end of the world. And the Linda Fieorintino (sp), along
> > with
> > Chris Rock keep trying to find a way for Linda to find her faith back in
> > the
> > Catholic Church and he keeps asking her if she believes and ultimately she
> > comes to the realization that she does not believe but has a good idea.
> > Maior BELIEVES. nothing more and nothing less. Facts, even one's in the
> > very text - do not alter her belief. Yes, taken to extreme you can either
> > have a psycopath and on the other spectrum, one I believe Maior tends to
> > fall into a single minded fanatic (but not charismatic).
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, C.Maria Caeca
> > <c.mariacaeca@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Maria Caeca Sullae sal,
> >>
> >> um ...that ...is a non-question, containing as id does, your own opinion.
> >> However ...since you asked ...either in and of itself, or alone, is
> >> unbalanced. I have never thought that intellect and emotion are mutually
> >> exclusive, or should act in absolute opposition, creating an either/or
> >> situation. My view is that one needs both ...and one also needs to know
> >> when
> >> which is appropriate. Intellect without emotion can produce a brilliant
> >> psychopath: emotion without intellect can produce something equally
> >> dangerous ...a charismatic single minded fanatic. both are equally
> >> lethal,
> >> for different reasons.
> >>
> >> Well, you *did* ask, yes?
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >> Maria Caeca
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 5:14 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

> L. Iulia Aquila Amicae et Amici, Quirites, Socii, Peregrinisque S.P.D.
>
> I will not address right now the issue of Nova Roma without Vestals or the
> certain perils of allowing an untrained Camilla to assume such sacred duties
> of the sacra publica, because it is not a simple action to simply "replace"
> a Vestal much less our Chief Vestal.
>

No one is going to suggest for a minute that it is a simple matter. It
remains, however, that we have lost our Virgo Maxima and I continue to offer
my prayers to Vesta for her health and the health of her mother. In such
trying circumstances I think we are extremely fortunate that we have someone
in training, someone who is willing to serve Vesta and I think we should all
offer our prayers for her in what she will undoubtedly find a difficult
time.

May Vesta bless her and keep her.

By the way the photos are absolutely stunnung - a real joy to behold.

Thank you

Flavia Lucilla Merula


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Marinus,

I haven't been really following this thread very much. But I have to say
that that although we've had our differences in the past, I can clearly see
now that you are an honest man and want only the best for Nova Roma.

So I hope that you will accept my humblest apologies for giving you grief in
the past.

Vale,
Diana Octavia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gnaeus Equitius Marinus" <gawne@...>
To: <NRComitiaCuriata@yahoogroups.com>; <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>;
<novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:49 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Office of Dictator illegal under Maine law


> Salvete Quirites,
>
> I have been informed by the Maine lawyer, Mr. Harvey Mechanic, who I
> retained at my own cost, that the office of Dictator as defined in
> Nova Roma's constitution is illegal under Maine law.
>
> Mr. Mechanic writes:
>
> --- Begin Citation ---
>
> The State law allows one person to hold all offices of a nonprofit
> corporation
> http://law.justia.com/maine/codes/title13-bch0sec0/title13-bsec710.html
> but not "full legislative powers" which are what the Board has and may
> not delegate to a one man committee (Dictator). Therefore, the
> Dictator position is illegal under Maine law.
>
> --- End Citation ---
>
> So, I will NOT assume the office of Dictator. Furthermore, I strongly
> recommend the Senate take immediate steps in its capacity as Board of
> Directors to review any laws enacted under the previous dictatorship
> and to act as necessary to bring us into compliance with Maine law.
>
> Valete,
>
> CN-EQVIT-MARINVS
>

SALVETE!
 
Wonderful event and photos. Great congratulations to organizers and participants.
All of you are beautiful!
 
VALETE,
Sabinus

"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:


From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: To all Cultores Deorum and to the Forum
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 7:14 PM


 



L. Iulia Aquila Amicae et Amici, Quirites, Socii, Peregrinisque S.P.D.


What is now available are magnificent photos of the expression of love and the commitments of six cultores from "FERIAE PROV. SARMATIAE II":
http://picasaweb.google.com/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII?feat=content_notification#5504776046459740530

If you cannot access this link input "FERIAE PROV. SARMATIAE II" in your search engine.

Again I congratulate all the couples and may Mater Venus guide you, protect you and bless you with strong healthy offspring. May Venus bless your homes so that they are filled with love and strength to endure and enjoy all that life lays at your feet.

To all Novi Romani, without exceptions, May the Mother of ALL Romans, Mater Venus, protect, guide and bless us ALL and intercede with the Gods of Rome on our behalf.

Valete optime in pacem deorum et in pace Veneris!

Julia
Sacerdos Veneris Genetricis
Securum in tenebris me facit esse Venus





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Pompeia;Iuliae quiritibusque Novae Romae sal.

I must confess to a bit of confusion here Iulia, with all due respect. Perhaps my understanding of the Religio is not what it should be:

On one hand you speak of the perils of an untrained camilla assuming certain sacred duties of the sacra publica (which you don't wish to address further right now, I take it)

Then on the other hand you state that we (citizens) are *all* responsible if the "Gods of Roma abandon Nova Roma", thereby placing upon each citizen at least some responsibility of sacred duties to the sacra publica (an integral part, if not synonymous with the Pax Deorum) Most of us are in essence 'untrained camillae'.

Here's my question: Should the cultores refrain from prayer and ritual, because it is a hazard to do so, due to their lack of formal religious training and licensure, *or* should they do so ad lib, given their responsibility to avoid divine abandonment, a responsibility you enumerated above?

I am hearing two messages, which seem quite contradictory. Would you care to clarify? I am interested, but a clarification might be especially enlightening to those privately *and* publicly devoted to the cultus deorum.

Thank in advance

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> L. Iulia Aquila Amicae et Amici, Quirites, Socii, Peregrinisque S.P.D.
>
> I will not address right now the issue of Nova Roma without Vestals or the certain perils of allowing an untrained Camilla to assume such sacred duties of the sacra publica, because it is not a simple action to simply "replace" a Vestal much less our Chief Vestal.
> We all, collectively, are responsible if the the Gods of Rome desert Nova Roma.
> All of us find it easy to lay blame but few are strong enough to truly shoulder it themselves. This does not come from our words solely but from the actions that support and give credence to our words.
>
> Maxima Valeria Messallina shall always be a Vestal held warmly in the heart of Vesta. She will continue to maintain the Flame of Vesta in her domus. This has not changed.
>
> What is now available are magnificent photos of the expression of love and the commitments of six cultores from "FERIAE PROV. SARMATIAE II":
> http://picasaweb.google.com/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII?feat=content_notification#5504776046459740530
>
> If you cannot access this link input "FERIAE PROV. SARMATIAE II" in your search engine.
>
> Again I congratulate all the couples and may Mater Venus guide you, protect you and bless you with strong healthy offspring. May Venus bless your homes so that they are filled with love and strength to endure and enjoy all that life lays at your feet.
>
> To all Novi Romani, without exceptions, May the Mother of ALL Romans, Mater Venus, protect, guide and bless us ALL and intercede with the Gods of Rome on our behalf.
>
> Valete optime in pacem deorum et in pace Veneris!
>
> Julia
> Sacerdos Veneris Genetricis
> Securum in tenebris me facit esse Venus
>
>
> Everywhere man blames nature and fate, yet his fate is mostly but the echo of his character and passions, his mistakes and weaknesses (Democritus)
> Remember how often you have postponed minding your interest, and let slip those opportunities the gods have given you. It is now high time to consider what sort of world you are part of, and from what kind of governor of it you are descended; that you have a set period assigned you to act in, and unless you improve it to brighten and compose your thoughts, it will quickly run off with you, and be lost beyond recovery.(Marcus Aurelius)
> First take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.(Luke)
>

Salve L Iulia;

Gratias tibi ago for the link to the photos. The sight of them
brought a little mist to the eyes of this aging, sometimes grumbly,
bearcat of a poet.

It was good to see so many young folk, with such obvious joy of the day!

Vale - Venator

Salvete;
I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are interested in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/

it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that exists on the ML

all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;

M. Hortensia Maior

Maior you might want to change that picture there in case kids see it....it
is potentially pornographic.

Vale,

Sulla

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete;
> I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are interested
> in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
>
> it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that exists on
> the ML
>
> all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
>
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>
>


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Iulia Mariae Corneliae Lucillae Pompeiae Venatori Omnibusque S.P.D.

>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:
>I claim no mantle of authority, as you imply, and my greatest joy would be to have our Virgo Maxima back with us.

Gaia Maria, I made no such claims against you. You know me better than that – I would have said that had I thought that. What I did say I would not discuss it, because like you, I have to research the issue which has to do solely with the sacra publica. So it follows that I had not even giving thoughts regarding yours or anyone's authority.
Please do not be defensive, we have had way too much of this and it gets us nowhere but perpetuate the discord and lead to more misunderstanding – we must all take the high road, choose our battles carefully and get down to what is important.
Judging by the past few days we all would be well served if we thought first before typing and it also may serve well to not jump to conclusions that are not there.
I applaud your devotion to Vesta and your willingness to serve to the Respublica;) Gratias tibi ago.

Statia – You are so very welcome!
Flavia– You are welcome as well! I personally appreciate your devotion to Vesta as well. At this time it is very important to keep Her in all of our hearts.

Pompeia – You're very welcome:), please read what I wrote to Maria. If you see contradictions in what I said it is because you may be reading them into what I wrote. Confrontational posts do upset concordia. The evidence of discord is riddled throughout the threads on the forum. Both you and I have been also guilty of this – albeit to a much lesser extent than the frequent posters. I do not know you personally and I have heard many good things about your past service to the Respublica, however all I have seen personally is that of late you appear mainly to confront rather than discuss and I believe this is because that has become the expectation of the current state of our culture. I ask you, si placet, to not allow your dissatisfaction with Nova Roma color your interpretation of my words. Gratias tibi:)
Confrontation is not in itself bad, some is healthy but we here in NR rarely seem to come up for air; it is counterproductive and eroding Her day after day.
Mistrust and confrontation have become the rule of the day – every one of us has to make a concerted effort to change this around.

I shall not argue, nor shall I continue in such a discussion.

Venii – You're so very welcome! I thought maybe we might need a bit of inspirational beauty and love to brighten up all of our outlooks!

Valete optime!

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator <famila.ulleria.venii@...> wrote:
>
> Salve L Iulia;
>
> Gratias tibi ago for the link to the photos. The sight of them
> brought a little mist to the eyes of this aging, sometimes grumbly,
> bearcat of a poet.
>
> It was good to see so many young folk, with such obvious joy of the day!
>
> Vale - Venator
>

Edpol! since it's a wall fresco in the Louvre, I suggest you report VROMA for spreading culture!

Rofl; just shows you what this list consists of : dumb and dumber.
http://www.vroma.org/

The VRoma Project is first and foremost a community of scholars, both teachers and students, who create online resources for teaching about the Latin language and ancient Roman culture. The project was initially funded by a $190,000 National Endowment for the Humanities Teaching with Technology grant in 1997. The two major components of the project are its online learning environment (MOO), which has received several favorable external reviews, and its collection of internet resources. The VRoma MOO requires logging on as a guest or through your personal character and password, but all the web resources are freely accessible on the internet.

wall painting—two women feeding a pet deer; Roman, from Pompeii, first century CE
smaller version; detail: deer.
Paris, Louvre Museum. Credits: Barbara McManus, 2005
http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/womendeer.jpg

M. Hortensia Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Maior you might want to change that picture there in case kids see it....it
> is potentially pornographic.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Salvete;
> > I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are interested
> > in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
> >
> > it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that exists on
> > the ML
> >
> > all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
> >
> > M. Hortensia Maior
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ave,

I did not ask you where you got it from. My concern is regarding Yahoo
Terms of Service and the minors on THIS list. As you and Scholastica point
out about Minors on this list. It is all about a question of consistency.
You advertised your list, containing a potentially pornographic picture on
your page. Nothing more and nothing less. Did you even consider the fact
that there are minors on this list?

Vale,

Sulla

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:14 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

>
>
> Edpol! since it's a wall fresco in the Louvre, I suggest you report VROMA
> for spreading culture!
>
> Rofl; just shows you what this list consists of : dumb and dumber.
> http://www.vroma.org/
>
> The VRoma Project is first and foremost a community of scholars, both
> teachers and students, who create online resources for teaching about the
> Latin language and ancient Roman culture. The project was initially funded
> by a $190,000 National Endowment for the Humanities Teaching with Technology
> grant in 1997. The two major components of the project are its online
> learning environment (MOO), which has received several favorable external
> reviews, and its collection of internet resources. The VRoma MOO requires
> logging on as a guest or through your personal character and password, but
> all the web resources are freely accessible on the internet.
>
> wall painting�two women feeding a pet deer; Roman, from Pompeii, first
> century CE
> smaller version; detail: deer.
> Paris, Louvre Museum. Credits: Barbara McManus, 2005
> http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/womendeer.jpg
>
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Robert
> Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
> >
> > Maior you might want to change that picture there in case kids see
> it....it
> > is potentially pornographic.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salvete;
> > > I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are
> interested
> > > in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
> > >
> > > it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that
> exists on
> > > the ML
> > >
> > > all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
> > >
> > > M. Hortensia Maior
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Salvete

You are correct, sir.  Alanis Morrisette did play God.  I liked the ending as well, when our suspicions are confirmed and that God is indeed Canadian.

Snooch to the nooch,
Silent Agrippa

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:

From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Farewell, Nova Roma
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 10:58 AM







 









Cato Liviae sal.



Alanis Morissette, I think it was! It was pretty awesome :)



Vale,



Cato



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:

>

> Salve Sulla,

> Maior's posts don't remind me of it, but here you mention one my favourite

> films. It's certainly one of the most hilarious films in the history of

> cinema. I specially like the end, when it turns our God is a woman.

>

> Vale,

> Livia

>

> > Ave,

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but to relate it to the situation along

> > this thread, when Maior posts, for some reason I am reminded of the movie

> > Dogma. A very good Kevin Smith movie where they are constantly saying how

> > blind belief in Dogma is what is allowing the two Angels (Ben Affleck and

> > Matt Damon) for the end of the Earth. If you haven't seen this movie

> > Affleck and Damon are two angels and they are trying to get back to Heaven

> > and they found a loophole in Catholic Dogma (hence the name of the movie)

> > and it follows their attempt to get back to Heaven regardless of the

> > consequences and the other characters of the movie (Selma Hayeck, Chris

> > Rock, Fiorentino, and Alan Rickman play the other side who are trying to

> > prevent Affleck and Damon from finding a loophole in Catholic Dogma and

> > thus

> > bring about the end of the world. And the Linda Fieorintino (sp), along

> > with

> > Chris Rock keep trying to find a way for Linda to find her faith back in

> > the

> > Catholic Church and he keeps asking her if she believes and ultimately she

> > comes to the realization that she does not believe but has a good idea.

> > Maior BELIEVES. nothing more and nothing less. Facts, even one's in the

> > very text - do not alter her belief. Yes, taken to extreme you can either

> > have a psycopath and on the other spectrum, one I believe Maior tends to

> > fall into a single minded fanatic (but not charismatic).

> >

> > Vale,

> >

> > Sulla

> >

> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, C.Maria Caeca

> > <c.mariacaeca@...>wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Maria Caeca Sullae sal,

> >>

> >> um ...that ...is a non-question, containing as id does, your own opinion.

> >> However ...since you asked ...either in and of itself, or alone, is

> >> unbalanced. I have never thought that intellect and emotion are mutually

> >> exclusive, or should act in absolute opposition, creating an either/or

> >> situation. My view is that one needs both ...and one also needs to know

> >> when

> >> which is appropriate. Intellect without emotion can produce a brilliant

> >> psychopath: emotion without intellect can produce something equally

> >> dangerous ...a charismatic single minded fanatic. both are equally

> >> lethal,

> >> for different reasons.

> >>

> >> Well, you *did* ask, yes?

> >>

> >> Respectfully,

> >> Maria Caeca

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>






















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Aeternia Maiori sal.


How nice, hope your list thrives and prospers...


Vale,
Aeternia

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete;
> I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are interested
> in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
>
> it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that exists on
> the ML
>
> all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
>
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to You Consul



also from Marcus Prometheus.



AUGURI !

Buon 60esimo

Compleanno



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Maior,

I just peeked at your site (as a man, I assume I'm not the target
audience for a "matron" site, but I *am *interested in *all *things Roman,
and I figured I'd want to let any Roman ladies of my acquaintance know about
it. Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads-up on a Latin correction -
instead of "Salvete Matrones," it ought to read "Salvete Matronae" as
"matrona" is a first-declension noun (though it does look deceptively like a
3rd declension stem, doesn't it?). Anyway, I know you're always trying to
use and improve your Latin, I applaud your effort, and I wish you the best!

Vale,
~ Valerianus

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete;
> I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are interested
> in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
>
> it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that exists on
> the ML
>
> all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
>
> M. Hortensia Maior
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Pompeia Iuliae populesque sal.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> (snippage)

Caeca wrote (after offering what appeared to be ritual or prayers and a poem to Vesta):

> >I claim no mantle of authority,as you(Iulia)imply, and my greatest joy would be to have our Virgo Maxima back with us.

And Iulia replied:
>
> Gaia Maria, I made no such claims against you. You know me better than that – I would have said that had I thought that. What I did say I would not discuss it, because like you, I have to research the issue which has to do solely with the sacra publica.

Pompeia: Actually, that's not what I read from you at all. In message 79342 you alluded to "'certain perils' of allowing untrained camilla to assume such sacred duties........." , so I can see where Caeca was atleast uneasy, being a vestal trainee, although I agree there was no verbatim accusation on your part of her acting with religious ambition. But, I am curious that you are *now* saying above, in this post, that you have to research the issue of these 'certain perils'. How *certain* are they? Now, if you don't know that something has any basis in historical or practiced fact, then why caution the readers against it? Remember 'certain' means *fixed* or *inevitable*

(snippage)

Iulia wrote:

>
> Pompeia – You're very welcome:), please read what I wrote to Maria. If you see contradictions in what I said it is because you may be reading them into what I wrote. Confrontational posts do upset concordia. The evidence of discord is riddled throughout the threads on the forum.

Pompeia: No, I'm not reading too much into them..just what you have written. I rarely post in this forum any more, but I did read what you wrote to Caeca, and was compelled to comment. And I agree that further discussion of this religious item is *megamoot*, as your statement in question had no 'certain' basis in fact.

Iulia continues:


Both you and I have been also guilty of this – albeit to a much lesser extent than the frequent posters. I do not know you personally and I have heard many good things about your past service to the Respublica, however all I have seen personally is that of late you appear mainly to confront rather than discuss and I believe this is because that has become the expectation of the current state of our culture. I ask you, si placet, to not allow your dissatisfaction with Nova Roma color your interpretation of my words. Gratias tibi:)
> Confrontation is not in itself bad, some is healthy but we here in NR rarely seem to come up for air; it is counterproductive and eroding Her day after day.
> Mistrust and confrontation have become the rule of the day – every one of us has to make a concerted effort to change this around.
>
> I shall not argue, nor shall I continue in such a discussion.

Pompeia: I don't know what half of the above paragraph has to do with what I asked you initially. I suspect its a red herring, given your admitted lack of knowledge on the subject in question. I asked you for a simple clarification, which you immediately interpret as 'arguing'. You indicated to Caeca that she was being defensive. So are you :>). However, you are the curule aedile. You should not, in my view, issue statements of this religious magnitude without first confirming their validity. You might also consider that I was not the only one who responded to your initial post....

And as for the unpleasantness of all 5 or so posts I've made this year, I shall continue to deliver my dim view of the recent attempt of illegal appropriation of legislative power, and with that, the illegal appropriation of 501C3 public charity funds. I shall also question the spontaneous, about-faced behaviour of those who should know better (are there voodoo dolls around here? ) I am sorry Iulia if this behaviour is what you consider counterproductive. You can be assured that I will never be part of a 'concerted' effort to hand out blindfolds to the people in the name of "pleasantness" or "concordia".


>
(snippage)
>
> Vale
Pompeia

{...}
>
>
> > >
>

C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.

First, let me clarify some things. I'm afraid I was a bit unclear, this
morning, and a legitimate concern has been raised, which I will now address.

What I am doing, and *all* that I am doing is offering prayers, as I was
taught by my beloved mentor, friend, and Virgo Maxima, Maxima Valeria
Messallina. I am not, and will not, do *anything* that exceeds my training.
I have neither the knowledge nor the aucturitas, and I am not so
presumptuous.

However, although my duties are extremely limited, I am a Priestess of
Vesta, and I have discussed what would be appropriate and inappropriate for
me do do with my mentor, at some length. I knew where my "line" was, and
was happy to stay well behind it ...but when citizens expressed genuine
concern, I felt it might bring solace to just say "I'm here, and my flame
burns". That was all I intended ...I would not even consider making a
sacrifice or doing a public ritual in the name of Nova Roma, though I ask
for protection and blessing for my people, as I have always, and will always
do.

Finally, I wish to publicly apologize (I have already done so, privately)
to L. Julia Aquila. My response to you was a purely emotional and
unbalanced reacting, and as such, entirely unacceptable. I am truly sorry,
for both my words and my hostile tone.

Respectfully,
Valete Bene,
C. Maria Caeca

It's been a while since I last posted for feedback on this idea. I realize people may be busy but after a few days of no feedback even if some people are on vacation I think it's safe to say that no one is interested in my idea. I don't have a problem with that that's why I was asking for opinions I was just looking for ways to improve the idea if at all possible. Thank you for the feedback given. I have decided to work on this idea on my own just to make it easier for me to read the posts in these message boards. Again thanks for the feedback.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "eagled2" <eagled2@...> wrote:
>
> Aulus Valerius Barbatus S.D.
> Quite a while ago I posted a message asking about a user forum website for communication instead of the email groups to make finding and reading messages easier. At that time I received a reply from on the the website administrators stating that they were working on a new design for the website that integrated all elements of the site better and all utilized a single login. He also mentioned the possibility of including a forum in this new site. I have not been able to find any information on the site regarding the progress of any such project. I was wondering if anyone knows of such a project and if it is still being worked on. I really like the idea of not just the forum but the integrated logins and a different look.
>

Salve Valeriane;
many thanks for the correction, I appreciate it. I don't know why it felt like a 3rd declension..hmm You're not our target unless, (which I doubt;-) you have a sudden desire to serve Cybele)...ridens.
maximas gratias
Maior

>
> Salve Maior,
>
> I just peeked at your site (as a man, I assume I'm not the target
> audience for a "matron" site, but I *am *interested in *all *things Roman,
> and I figured I'd want to let any Roman ladies of my acquaintance know about
> it. Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads-up on a Latin correction -
> instead of "Salvete Matrones," it ought to read "Salvete Matronae" as
> "matrona" is a first-declension noun (though it does look deceptively like a
> 3rd declension stem, doesn't it?). Anyway, I know you're always trying to
> use and improve your Latin, I applaud your effort, and I wish you the best!
>
> Vale,
> ~ Valerianus
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Salvete;
> > I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are interested
> > in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
> >
> > it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that exists on
> > the ML
> >
> > all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
> >
> > M. Hortensia Maior
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve

From the archives of SG-1

"This is Doctor Rodney McKay, He's Canadian.

USAF Col. O' Neill: "I am so sorry"

Vale

Paulinus





To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: canadaoccidentalis@...
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:38:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Farewell, Nova Roma






Salvete

You are correct, sir. Alanis Morrisette did play God. I liked the ending as well, when our suspicions are confirmed and that God is indeed Canadian.

Snooch to the nooch,
Silent Agrippa

--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:

From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Farewell, Nova Roma
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 10:58 AM



Cato Liviae sal.

Alanis Morissette, I think it was! It was pretty awesome :)

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Livia Plauta" <livia.plauta@...> wrote:

>

> Salve Sulla,

> Maior's posts don't remind me of it, but here you mention one my favourite

> films. It's certainly one of the most hilarious films in the history of

> cinema. I specially like the end, when it turns our God is a woman.

>

> Vale,

> Livia

>

> > Ave,

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but to relate it to the situation along

> > this thread, when Maior posts, for some reason I am reminded of the movie

> > Dogma. A very good Kevin Smith movie where they are constantly saying how

> > blind belief in Dogma is what is allowing the two Angels (Ben Affleck and

> > Matt Damon) for the end of the Earth. If you haven't seen this movie

> > Affleck and Damon are two angels and they are trying to get back to Heaven

> > and they found a loophole in Catholic Dogma (hence the name of the movie)

> > and it follows their attempt to get back to Heaven regardless of the

> > consequences and the other characters of the movie (Selma Hayeck, Chris

> > Rock, Fiorentino, and Alan Rickman play the other side who are trying to

> > prevent Affleck and Damon from finding a loophole in Catholic Dogma and

> > thus

> > bring about the end of the world. And the Linda Fieorintino (sp), along

> > with

> > Chris Rock keep trying to find a way for Linda to find her faith back in

> > the

> > Catholic Church and he keeps asking her if she believes and ultimately she

> > comes to the realization that she does not believe but has a good idea.

> > Maior BELIEVES. nothing more and nothing less. Facts, even one's in the

> > very text - do not alter her belief. Yes, taken to extreme you can either

> > have a psycopath and on the other spectrum, one I believe Maior tends to

> > fall into a single minded fanatic (but not charismatic).

> >

> > Vale,

> >

> > Sulla

> >

> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, C.Maria Caeca

> > <c.mariacaeca@...>wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Maria Caeca Sullae sal,

> >>

> >> um ...that ...is a non-question, containing as id does, your own opinion.

> >> However ...since you asked ...either in and of itself, or alone, is

> >> unbalanced. I have never thought that intellect and emotion are mutually

> >> exclusive, or should act in absolute opposition, creating an either/or

> >> situation. My view is that one needs both ...and one also needs to know

> >> when

> >> which is appropriate. Intellect without emotion can produce a brilliant

> >> psychopath: emotion without intellect can produce something equally

> >> dangerous ...a charismatic single minded fanatic. both are equally

> >> lethal,

> >> for different reasons.

> >>

> >> Well, you *did* ask, yes?

> >>

> >> Respectfully,

> >> Maria Caeca

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

>

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Salve Maior,

No problem! And no, I'm no Attis, the Magna Mater will just have to get
along without me :)

Vale!

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:03 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salve Valeriane;
> many thanks for the correction, I appreciate it. I don't know why it felt
> like a 3rd declension..hmm You're not our target unless, (which I doubt;-)
> you have a sudden desire to serve Cybele)...ridens.
> maximas gratias
> Maior
>
> >
> > Salve Maior,
> >
> > I just peeked at your site (as a man, I assume I'm not the target
> > audience for a "matron" site, but I *am *interested in *all *things
> Roman,
> > and I figured I'd want to let any Roman ladies of my acquaintance know
> about
> > it. Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads-up on a Latin correction -
> > instead of "Salvete Matrones," it ought to read "Salvete Matronae" as
> > "matrona" is a first-declension noun (though it does look deceptively
> like a
> > 3rd declension stem, doesn't it?). Anyway, I know you're always trying to
> > use and improve your Latin, I applaud your effort, and I wish you the
> best!
> >
> > Vale,
> > ~ Valerianus
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:24 PM, rory12001 <rory12001@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salvete;
> > > I've started a new list Conventus Matronarum for women who are
> interested
> > > in Roman history, religio, culture, Latin,
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conventus_matronarum/
> > >
> > > it's a place for friendship, good discussions & none of crap that
> exists on
> > > the ML
> > >
> > > all matrones are cordially invited to join the list;
> > >
> > > M. Hortensia Maior
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Salve Pompeia,

Bless your heart;)

Vale,

Julia

Salve Gaia Maria,

I sent you a looooong reply in privatum;) I appreciate the apology, gratias, but you did not need to do so, I understand.

Vale,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C.Maria Caeca" <c.mariacaeca@...> wrote:
>
> C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.
>
> First, let me clarify some things. I'm afraid I was a bit unclear, this
> morning, and a legitimate concern has been raised, which I will now address.
>
> What I am doing, and *all* that I am doing is offering prayers, as I was
> taught by my beloved mentor, friend, and Virgo Maxima, Maxima Valeria
> Messallina. I am not, and will not, do *anything* that exceeds my training.
> I have neither the knowledge nor the aucturitas, and I am not so
> presumptuous.
>
> However, although my duties are extremely limited, I am a Priestess of
> Vesta, and I have discussed what would be appropriate and inappropriate for
> me do do with my mentor, at some length. I knew where my "line" was, and
> was happy to stay well behind it ...but when citizens expressed genuine
> concern, I felt it might bring solace to just say "I'm here, and my flame
> burns". That was all I intended ...I would not even consider making a
> sacrifice or doing a public ritual in the name of Nova Roma, though I ask
> for protection and blessing for my people, as I have always, and will always
> do.
>
> Finally, I wish to publicly apologize (I have already done so, privately)
> to L. Julia Aquila. My response to you was a purely emotional and
> unbalanced reacting, and as such, entirely unacceptable. I am truly sorry,
> for both my words and my hostile tone.
>
> Respectfully,
> Valete Bene,
> C. Maria Caeca
>

C. Maria Caeca L. Juliae sal,

Private message received and read, thank you! And ...yes, I did need to apologize to you, and in public, because the original action took place in public, and therefore, so must my apology to you.

Vale quam optime, Amica,
CMC

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Watching HBO's Roma and doing my research online I found that when someone who died in Ancient Rome held the curule chair or was an Emperor their faces were preserved in wax and displayed in the atrium of a home. Using this I experimented with some 2.99 wax I bought at Hobby Lobby and was able to create a face mask of wax. I have placed this on my Lararium in the name of the Manes of those of the past(who I pray to every night) and cannot wait to get some sculpting clay and try out some others. I'm thinking my namesakes, Julius Caesar, Iunius Brutus, and Nero for a start. In my family I have not experienced the death of a close loved one and thus cannot make masks for them. Once I get the process down pat I would be willing to accept commissions for anyone wishing to follow in our forefather's steps and would not charge much.
I am curious if anyone else has tried either successfully or unsuccessfully to do the same? This mask is not perfect, the wax was really hot as the mold I was using was plastic and I had a terrible fear of burning my house down but it came out well for a first try.
Questions Comments?
Di Vos Incolumes Custodiant,
Nero.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:51 AM, C.Maria Caeca <c.mariacaeca@...>wrote:

> .
> ....... I felt it might bring solace to just say "I'm here, and my flame
> burns". ........

I just want to say that, as far as I am concerned, yes it has brought great
solace to me to know that you are there serving Vesta.

It was love of Vesta that brought me to Nova Roma in the first place.
Privately, I had already dedicated my life to her. It is inconceivable, to
me, to picture a Rome in which Vesta's flame does not burn bright. I think
we are truly fortunate and it brings me great joy to know, that in such sad
and trying times, we have someone willing to serve Vesta and to keep her
flame alive.I pray Vesta will bless you and keep you and bring joy to your
hearth.

In gratitude
Flavia Lucilla Merula


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M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus, cultoribus Deorum, Quiritibus et omnibus salute plurimam dicit: Bene omnibus nobis.

Hodie est ante diem XVIII Kalendas Septembras; haec dies comitialis est:

ROMULUS AND THE EARLIEST SACERDOTES OF ROME

"To return to the government established by Romulus, I have thought the following things also worthy the notice of history. In the first place, he appointed a great number of persons to carry on the worship of the Gods. At any rate, no one could name any other newly-founded city in which so many priests and ministers of the Gods were appointed from the beginning. For, apart from those who held family priesthoods, sixty were appointed in his reign to perform by tribes and curiae the public sacrifices on behalf of the commonwealth; I am merely repeating what Terentius Varro, the most learned man of his age, has written in his Antiquities. In the next place, whereas others generally choose in a careless and inconsiderate manner those who are to preside over religious matters, some thinking fit to make public sale of this honor and others disposing of it by lot, he would not allow the priesthoods to be either
purchased for money or assigned by lot, but made a law that each curia should choose two men over fifty years of age, of distinguished birth and exceptional merit, of competent fortune, and without any bodily defects; and he ordered that these should enjoy their honors, not for any fixed period, but for life, freed from military service by their age and from civil burdens by the law.

"Furthermore, Romulus ordered one soothsayer out of each tribe to be present at the sacrifices. This soothsayer we call hieroskopos or "inspector of the vitals," and the Romans, preserving something of the ancient name, aruspex. He also made a law that all the sacerdotes of the Gods should be chosen by the curiae and that their election should be confirmed by those who interpret the will of the Gods by the art of divination." ~ Dionysius of Halicarnassus 2.21.1-3; 2.22.3

As Rome evolved, the curiae of Romulus were retained as the basic politico-religious organizations on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis. Each curia was led by a curio, with a Magister Curiorum elected from among them. Each curia also had a flamen, whose duties are not clear. The curio is mentioned occasionally as the one who led religious rites on behalf his curia.
One such occasion was during Fornacalia of February. Each curia had a sacullum, which may have been tended by the flamen. As districts of Roman cities were named after deities, or after a nearby temple of a deity, each the saculla of the various curiae would have been dedicated to different deities. But we hear, too, of another festival held in the curiae where each set up a table near their
saculla to receive offerings for Juno, or for a juno of some Goddess.

In the Late Republic the curiones gained political importance as a kind of ward chairmen. They were able to deliver the votes of their curia to anyone who gave the best offer. Bribing the curiones became a regular feature of elections. They also provided the street thugs used by Milo and Clodius. Therefore Augustus replaced the curiae by reorganizing the City into vici; each vicus then given its own hall and a sacullum; and Augustus personally went around the City presenting each vicus with statues of Lares. The statues thus became known as Lares Augustales, but had other names as well, as Augustus thought them to represent Lares Compitales. The Augustan statues originally held cornucopia and offered a patera, and later their image was transformed into the dancing Lares that are so familiar to us today. It is not known whether any sort of Lar was represented prior to Augustus or if the curiae originally held a cultus for Lares Compitales (Lares Compitales were in the countryside). The effect of the Augustan Restoration was to restore the vicus to a more religious oriented division of the City than the curiae had become.


THE TEMPLE OF DIANA AT EPHESUS.

"The most wonderful monument of Græcian magnificence, and one that merits our genuine admiration, is the Temple of Diana at Ephesus, which took one hundred and twenty years in building, a work in which all Asia joined. A marshy soil was selected for its site, in order that it might not suffer from earthquakes, or the chasms which they produce. On the other hand, again, that the foundations of so vast a pile might not have to rest upon a loose and shifting bed, layers of trodden charcoal were placed beneath, with fleeces2 covered with wool upon the top of them. The entire length of the temple is four hundred and twenty-five feet, and the breadth two hundred and twenty-five. The columns are one hundred and twenty-seven in number, and sixty feet in height, each of them presented by a different king. Thirty-six of these columns are carved, and one of them by the hand of Scopas. Chersiphron was the architect who presided over the work. The great marvel in this building is, how such ponderous Architraves could possibly have been raised to so great a height. This, however, the architect effected by means of bags filled with sand, which he piled up upon an inclined plane until they reached beyond the capitals of the columns; then, as he gradually emptied the lower bags, the architraves insensibly settled in the places assigned them. But the greatest difficulty of all was found, in laying the lintel which he placed over the entrance-doors. It was an enormous mass of stone, and by no possibility could it be brought to lie level upon the jambs which formed its bed; in consequence of which, the architect was driven to such a state of anxiety and desperation as to contemplate suicide. Wearied and quite worn out by such thoughts as these, during the night, they say, he beheld in a dream the Goddess in honor of whom the temple was being erected; Who exhorted him to live on, for that She Herself had placed the stone in its proper position. And such, in fact, next morning, was found to be the case, the stone apparently having come to the proper level by dint of its own weight. The other decorations of this work would suffice to fill many volumes, but they do not tend in any way to illustrate the works of Nature." ~ G. Plinius Secundus, Historia Naturalis 36.21


Our thought for today are the words of Socrates, as quoted by L. Annaeus Seneca, On the Happy Life 26.4:

"Upon nothing am I more strongly resolved than not to change my course of life to suit your opinion. Heap upon me from every side the usual taunts; I shall not consider that you are railing at me, but that you are wailing like poor little babies."

Cato Piscino sal.

The correctly-declined name of the month is "Septembris", not "Septembras"; you make this same mistake with the name of practically every month. And today is a dies fastus, not comitialis:

Hodiernus dies est ante diem XVIII Kalendas Septembris; haec dies fastus est.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@...> wrote:

> Hodie est ante diem XVIII Kalendas Septembras; haec dies comitialis est:

C. Maria Caeca omnibus in foro S. P. D.

I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to share yet another inept attempt at
writing with you. There won't be more ...probably for a long time (smile).

CMC

Vesta's Fire



On the hearth at the heart

An Ancient city sleeps:

In the darkness,

In the silence,

Vesta's fire burns,

Strong and bright.



Careful, tender hands

Reach into light to tend;

Whispered prayers float

Like a soft breeze upon

The sleeping stillness



There is light.

There is safety.





So it was, in long past times,

And so it is, again,. Her fire

May burn low, but it will leap

Into exuberant brilliance, always.



Her Fire may die. It will be relit, always.

For there will always be tender, reverent

Hands to tend .loving, whispered prayers

In the darkest hours of the night

This is our unbroken lineage.



No malice, no irreverent act, no danger

Can destroy that which is eternal,



Rome .Nova Roma will abide in light

There is protection, here.

There is safety, here.

Her fire burns bright, here, and always always will.



C. Maria Caeca 8/15/2010

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them
better.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose
face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who
errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort
without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the
deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends
himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the
triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at
least he fails while daring greatly.

"So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who
know neither victory nor defeat.” - Theodore Roosevelt

Write on, C Maria, write on...you serve your Goddess, and thereby Nova
Roma, in my opinion, regardless of the titles and honors appended to
you name.

Did the Immortals reject worthy devotion before there was a College of Pontiffs?

I think not.

Venator

Caeca Venii sal,

You honor me far beyond my merit, but I thank you for that and even more for
your kindness.

Vale quam optime,
C. Maria Caeca

A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
voluntatis S.P.D.

Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th, the US
Labor Day holiday (though students need not appear until the following day),
and Grammatica II will begin in just two short weeks, on Monday, August
30th.

The text for the Grammatica classes is Wheelock¹s Latin, by Frederic
Wheelock, sixth edition, revised by LaFleur. This is readily available in
US college bookstores belonging to institutions which teach Latin as it is
very popular and is used in most such institutions of higher education,
though some prefer another text. It may also be ordered via the Wheelock
website <http://www.wheelockslatin.com>

As previously noted, the first semester of Grammatica Latina I covers
the first 11 lessons of this text, and the separate second semester course
covers the next 11 lessons. After the first week of the first semester,
during which three preliminary lessons are presented, a lesson from the text
is presented every Monday, and written homework is assigned in order to
solidify the concepts presented in the text. A similar program is observed
in the second semester course. In the intermediate level Grammatica II, we
now cover lessons 23-34 in the newly-separated first semester course, and
address the remaining lessons in the second semester course (lessons 35-40),
followed by readings from the text and other sources. We shall meet Caesar
and Cicero and Pliny and Horace and Catullus there, inter alios, and will
also learn some spoken Latin and possibly engage in activities such as are
conducted at the Latin-immersion conventicula.

As for the Sermo Latinus courses, which begin somewhat later to
accommodate the now-vacationing Europeans, we cover lessons 1-56 of the
Desessard Assimil text in the separate Sermo I course, and lessons 57-101 in
the separate Sermo II one, while all 101 lessons are covered in the Combined
Sermo Latinus I & II course. The text for all of these is Le Latin Sans
Peine, by Clement Desessard. The text is also available in Italian; I
believe that the title is Il Latino senza Sforzo. Those who cannot read
either French or Italian should not worry; we have translated the text into
both English and Spanish for the benefit of our students, and reveal these
translations along with each lesson. The French version of the text has
gone out of print, but can be obtained online either by purchase of a used
copy or by file-sharing.
Sermo I & II Combined will begin September 13th, and the separate Sermo I
and Sermo II will begin a week later, on Monday, September 20th.

All of our Latin classes require effort on the part of the student, but
the benefits are great. Cultores should learn just what those prayers
actually say, and everyone should be able to pick up a Latin text and make
some sense out of it, if not read and understand it (though that should come
after a couple of years of Latin, though not just one year, except in the
Combined course). The Grammatica courses are taught by the traditional
method for the most part, and require memorization of vocabulary and
paradigms, inter alia; the Assimil Sermo courses are taught by a more
natural method, and work better for some students. The main focus of
Grammatica is learning to read Latin (though we do more than that), and that
of Sermo is learning to write and speak in Latin, though obviously reading
is not neglected. I strongly encourage everyone to make the effort to learn
the language of the Romans, which, although having a grammar complex by the
standards of English, has a small vocabulary as languages go, and that
grammar is quite regular. Quite honestly, if more of you do not enter our
classes and complete them, we shall stop offering them, or reduce their
frequency. I have moved all completing students who wished to continue into
the intermediate courses, but every year fewer and fewer students want to
take Grammatica I, and this year we have very few in the Combined class and
in Sermo I. The Sermo classes are unique in the world, and everyone should
take advantage of them while we can still offer them. A basic knowledge of
Latin is helpful, but not essential. The pace is brisk, but the textbook
lessons are short, with grammar addressed only every seventh lesson. Please
consider taking these courses; there may still be time to obtain the
Desessard text.

Valete.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Paulla Corva Gaudialis Maximae Valeriae Messallinae sal.

I am very, very sad to see you go, especially in the face of such bad news. I wish you and your mother the very best. Please know that my affection and admiration go with you. Vesta could not ask for a more devoted Sacerdos Vestalis or Nova Roma for a more worthy citizen. Six years is too short a time.

It has been a real pleasure becoming acquainted with you, and I hope that your health will permit you to return to us when you're able.

Vale in pace Deorum,

Paulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Maxima Valeria Messallina <maximavaleriamessallina@...> wrote:

> With great regret, I have to leave Nova Roma. My mother, who has Alzheimer's, suffered a very serious stroke two weeks ago. Her recovery will be lengthy and I must be there for her every step of the way.
> In addition to this, the results of recent tests done on me have revealed something neither my doctor nor I expected and now I am facing my own health crisis, with its own lengthy recovery. Dealing with both of these two crisises will take all my time, energy and resourses and, thus, I will not be able to devote anymore time or energy to Nova Roma.
> Therefore, I resign from all offices and positions, and also, my citizenship.

(snipped)

Salve Domina,
Not sure I will do very good, but I will give it a try.
Vale,
Gaius Pompeius Marcellus


On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:19:27 -0400
"A. Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@...> wrote:

> A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
> voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
> particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th, the US
> Labor Day holiday (though students need not appear until the following day),
> and Grammatica II will begin in just two short weeks, on Monday, August
> 30th.
>
> The text for the Grammatica classes is Wheelock¹s Latin, by Frederic
> Wheelock, sixth edition, revised by LaFleur. This is readily available in
> US college bookstores belonging to institutions which teach Latin as it is
> very popular and is used in most such institutions of higher education,
> though some prefer another text. It may also be ordered via the Wheelock
> website <http://www.wheelockslatin.com>
>
> As previously noted, the first semester of Grammatica Latina I covers
> the first 11 lessons of this text, and the separate second semester course
> covers the next 11 lessons. After the first week of the first semester,
> during which three preliminary lessons are presented, a lesson from the text
> is presented every Monday, and written homework is assigned in order to
> solidify the concepts presented in the text. A similar program is observed
> in the second semester course. In the intermediate level Grammatica II, we
> now cover lessons 23-34 in the newly-separated first semester course, and
> address the remaining lessons in the second semester course (lessons 35-40),
> followed by readings from the text and other sources. We shall meet Caesar
> and Cicero and Pliny and Horace and Catullus there, inter alios, and will
> also learn some spoken Latin and possibly engage in activities such as are
> conducted at the Latin-immersion conventicula.
>
> As for the Sermo Latinus courses, which begin somewhat later to
> accommodate the now-vacationing Europeans, we cover lessons 1-56 of the
> Desessard Assimil text in the separate Sermo I course, and lessons 57-101 in
> the separate Sermo II one, while all 101 lessons are covered in the Combined
> Sermo Latinus I & II course. The text for all of these is Le Latin Sans
> Peine, by Clement Desessard. The text is also available in Italian; I
> believe that the title is Il Latino senza Sforzo. Those who cannot read
> either French or Italian should not worry; we have translated the text into
> both English and Spanish for the benefit of our students, and reveal these
> translations along with each lesson. The French version of the text has
> gone out of print, but can be obtained online either by purchase of a used
> copy or by file-sharing.
> Sermo I & II Combined will begin September 13th, and the separate Sermo I
> and Sermo II will begin a week later, on Monday, September 20th.
>
> All of our Latin classes require effort on the part of the student, but
> the benefits are great. Cultores should learn just what those prayers
> actually say, and everyone should be able to pick up a Latin text and make
> some sense out of it, if not read and understand it (though that should come
> after a couple of years of Latin, though not just one year, except in the
> Combined course). The Grammatica courses are taught by the traditional
> method for the most part, and require memorization of vocabulary and
> paradigms, inter alia; the Assimil Sermo courses are taught by a more
> natural method, and work better for some students. The main focus of
> Grammatica is learning to read Latin (though we do more than that), and that
> of Sermo is learning to write and speak in Latin, though obviously reading
> is not neglected. I strongly encourage everyone to make the effort to learn
> the language of the Romans, which, although having a grammar complex by the
> standards of English, has a small vocabulary as languages go, and that
> grammar is quite regular. Quite honestly, if more of you do not enter our
> classes and complete them, we shall stop offering them, or reduce their
> frequency. I have moved all completing students who wished to continue into
> the intermediate courses, but every year fewer and fewer students want to
> take Grammatica I, and this year we have very few in the Combined class and
> in Sermo I. The Sermo classes are unique in the world, and everyone should
> take advantage of them while we can still offer them. A basic knowledge of
> Latin is helpful, but not essential. The pace is brisk, but the textbook
> lessons are short, with grammar addressed only every seventh lesson. Please
> consider taking these courses; there may still be time to obtain the
> Desessard text.
>
> Valete.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis
S.P.D.

Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin (specifically for
the Sermo Latinus courses) written specially for Nova Romans by our Avitus,
who is a well-known European Latinist known for his fluency in Latin. As I
do not know Spanish or Italian, I cannot correctly modify the dates, etc.,
in this document, which was written some years ago, but have done my best.
Some references are to our former site at the Academia Thules, whose course
server perished in November of 2008, so I have deleted those. Anyone
wishing to take either the Sermo Latinus courses or the Grammatica Latina
ones must contact me for correct information and to verify the possession of
the text, which is required before admission. Perhaps our Spanish-speaking
or Italian-speaking citizens could copy the relevant portions and post them
to their provincial lists. The French-speaking ones already seem to know
Latin...


DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Learn to speak LATIN, join our Latin courses!

DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Learn to speak LATIN, the language of our
forefathers!


A. Tullia Scholastica concivibus optimis suís


We all know that the aim of Nova Roma (cf.

http://www.novaroma.org/main.html at the bottom of the page) is to bring
about a general revival of all aspects of Roman civilisation, from politics
to religion, from philosophy to cookery or literature or the arts, a core
aspect of that Roman culture being the Virtues that gave a small city on the
banks of the Tiber the moral and practical strength to govern much of the
world, virtues that are most sorely lacking in our society today.

It can escape no-one, though, that there is only one language in which those
virtues and that culture and civilisation ever found their most authentic
and universal expression. The language Rome spoke was LATIN. The Latin
language is the most apt and only authentic vehicle to fully express the
Roman culture, to gain access to her literature, her ideas and philosophies,
to immerse oneself in her ethics and virtues, and to not only understand but
also intimately adopt and perfectly embody her complete world-view and way
of life; it is also the only language in which the Roman religious rites can
be duly performed.


Nova Roma shows the essential importance of this language in all its
terminology: the different positions of government, the official names of
the laws and decrees, the names of the virtues are all expressed in Latin.

It is essential to promote the Lingua Latina and its revival in all
circumstances of life among our fellow citizens (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lingua_Latina).

Most people think that Latin is a dead language, as dead as the Roman
virtues or the culture it conveyed; but we, Nova Romans, know it doesn't
have to be like that, not for the virtues, not for the culture, not for the
language. Latin was the living language of our Roman forefathers, and it is
a language like all others, that can be learnt in a leisurely way and spoken
in all situations of everyday life. In fact, there is already a large
community of Latin speakers out there that prove that this is the case. One
can find lots of information about that in sites like
http://www.latinitatis.com/.

We shouldn't be left behind. We are the rightful depositaries of the Roman
culture and civilisation, and we should be able and most willing to use the
language of our ancestors as part of our all-encompassing Roman revival.

I know there are many people among us that have learnt some amount of Latin
before, but have forgotten so much that are now unable to deal with the
language of our ancestors by themselves; others will still remember enough
to read it, but feel nonetheless unprepared to use the language in an active
manner. There may be people who are even now learning Latin somewhere else,
or others who may never have studied Latin before. Anyone, I repeat, anyone,
from those with absolutely no previous knowledge of the language to those
who have learnt Latin in the past, or even those who are still learning it
elsewhere, but don't yet feel confident enough with it to use it actively,
will be able to benefit tremendously from my ³Sermo Latinus² courses.
Anyone, therefore, who wants to learn Latin in order to be able not only to
read its texts with understanding but also to write it with ease and
fluently to speak it in all situations so that the eternal idiom of our
forefathers is brought back to active life and everyday usage, is invited
and eagerly encouraged to join those courses.

I, the former Dean of the Faculty of Letters of the Academia Thules, a Latin
philologist fluent in the language and with a long teaching experience, am
offering to take you to the level of Latin at which you can start your
independent exploration of the sources, and actually bring back to active
life and everyday usage our eternal Latin language. On completion, you will
be able to enjoy the less convoluted Latin texts without being enslaved to
the dictionary, and will also be capable of Latin conversation at an
intermediate level.

My courses are going to start in a few weeks, on 13th September or 20th
September 2763 [2010], and I strongly encourage as many Nova Roma citizens
as possible to join in. If you want to do so, you will have to order the
material today!

You will be able to find much more detailed information about the courses,
as well about all others offered by the Facultas Litterarum and you are
invited to enrol as soon as possible.

Curate ut valeatis omnes!

Hispanicé:

DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Aprende a hablar LATÍN, apúntate a nuestros cursos
de Latín!
DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Aprende a hablar LATÍN, la lengua de nuestros
mayores!


DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Aprenda a hablar LATÍN, apúntese a nuestros cursos
de Latín!
DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Aprenda a hablar LATÍN, la lengua de nuestros
mayores!

DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Aprendé a hablar LATÍN, apuntáte a nuestros cursos
de Latín!
DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Aprendé a hablar LATÍN, la lengua de nuestros
mayores!

A. Tullia Scholastica concivibus Hispanis optimis suís
y concivibus Americanis optimis suís S·P·D

Todos sabemos que el objetivo de Nova Roma (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/main.html) es una restauración general de todos los
aspectos de la civilización romana, desde la política a la religión, desde
la filosofía a la gastronomía o la literatura o las artes, siendo un aspecto
clave de esa cultura romana las Virtudes que dieron a una pequeña ciudad a
orillas del Tíber la fuerza moral y práctica para gobernar gran parte del
mundo, virtudes que se echan dolorosamente en falta en nuestra sociedad
actual.

A nadie se le escapa, sin embargo, que hay una sola lengua en la que esas
virtudes y esa cultura encontraron jamás su más auténtica y universal
expresión. La lengua que hablaba Roma era el LATÍN. La lengua latina es el
vehículo más adecuado y el único que goza de legítima autenticidad para
expresar plenamente la cultura romana, para ganar acceso a su literatura,
sus ideas y filosofías, para empaparse de su ética y sus virtudes, y para no
sólo comprender, sino también adoptar íntimamente e incorporar a la
perfección su completa visión del mundo y modo de vida; es también la única
lengua en que pueden debidamente llevarse a cabo los ritos religiosos
romanos.


Nova Roma muestra la importancia esencial de esta lengua en toda su
terminología: los diferentes cargos de gobierno, los nombres oficiales de
leyes y decretos, los nombres de las virtudes están todos expresados en
latín.

Es esencial promover la Lingua Latina y su restablecimiento en todas las
circunstancias de la vida entre nuestros conciudadanos (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lingua_Latina).

La mayoría de la gente piensa que el latín es una lengua muerta, tan muerta
como las virtudes romanas o la cultura que expresaba; pero nosotros, como
novorromanos, sabemos que no tiene por qué ser así, ni con las virtudes, ni
con la cultura, ni con la lengua. El latín fue la lengua viva de nuestros
mayores romanos, y es una lengua como todas las demás, que puede aprenderse
de manera entretenida y hablarse en todas las situaciones de la vida diaria.
De hecho, existe ya una gran comunidad de hablantes de latín ahí fuera que
lo demuestra, y se puede encontrar gran cantidad de información al respecto
en sitios como

http://www.latinitatis.com/.

No nos podemos quedar atrás. Somos los legítimos depositarios de la cultura
y civilización romanas, y deberíamos ser capaces y tener la absoluta
voluntad de usar la lengua de nuestros mayores como parte de nuestra
omnicomprensiva restauración de lo romano.

Sé que hay mucha gente entre nosotros que ha aprendido algo de latín en el
pasado, pero han olvidado tanto que son ahora incapaces de aproximarse a la
lengua de nuestros ancestros por sí solos; otros recordarán todavía lo
suficiente para leerlo, pero no se sienten a pesar de todo preparados para
usar la lengua de manera activa. Puede haber gente que esté incluso ahora
aprendiendo Latín en algún otro lugar, u otros que puede que no hayan
estudiado nunca Latín. Cualquiera, repito, cualquiera, desde aquellos que no
tengan ningún conocimiento previo en absoluto de la lengua a los que la
hayan aprendido en el pasado, o incluso aquellos que la están aprendiendo
todavía en otro sitio, pero todavía no se sienten cómodos con ella como para
usarla activamente, podrán obtener un tremendo beneficio de mis cursos de
³Sermo Latinus.² Cualquiera, por tanto, que quiera aprender la lengua
latina para ser capaz no sólo de leer sus textos con entendimiento sino
también escribirla con facilidad y hablarla fluidamente en todas las
situaciones de manera que el idioma eterno de nuestros mayores vuelva a la
vida activa y al uso diario, está invitado y se le anima encarecidamente a
apuntarse a esos cursos.

Yo, quondam Decano de la Facultad de Letras de la Academia Thules, filólogo
latino nacido en Caesaraugusta (Hispania) y residente en Londinium (Anglia),
con absoluta fluidez en la lengua y con una prolongada experiencia
didáctica, me ofrezco a llevarles a un nivel de latín en el que podrán
empezar su exploración independiente de las fuentes, y, lo que es más,
devolver a la vida activa y al uso cotidiano nuestra eterna lengua latina.
Al terminar, podrán disfrutar los textos latinos no excesivamente retorcidos
sin depender servilmente del diccionario, y serán además capaces de
conversar en latín a nivel intermedio.


Mis cursos darán comienzo el 13 (SL I & II) o el 20 (SL I, SL II) de
septiembre de 2763 [2010], y recomiendo vehementemente al máximo número
posible de ciudadanos de Nova Roma América a que se apunten. Si desean
hacerlo, deberán solicitar el material desde hoy mismo!

Podrán informarse mucho más detalladamente sobre los cursos, así como sobre
todos los demás que ofrece la Facultas Litterarum, en y les invito a
matricularse lo más pronto posible.


Curate ut valeatis omnes!

Italicé:

DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Impara a parlare LATINO, iscriviti ai nostri corsi!
DE LINGUÁ LATINÁ IN NR: Impara a parlare LATINO, la lingua dei nostri
antenati!

A. Tullia Scholastica concivibus Italis optimis suís S·P·D

Tutti sappiamo che l'obiettivo di Nova Roma (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/main.html) è un revival generale de tutti gli
aspetti della civiltà Romana, dalla politica alla religione, dalla filosofia
alla gastronomia o la letteratura o le arti, essendo un aspetto chiave di
quella cultura romana le virtù che han dato ad una piccola città sulle rive
del Tevere il morale e la forza pratica per governare il mondo, virtù che
sono penosamente mancanti nella nostra società odierna.

A nessuno sfugge tuttavia che c'è una sola lingua nella quale quelle virtù e
quella cultura trovarono mai la sua più autentica ed universale espressione.
La lingua che parlava Roma era il LATINO. La lingua Latina è il veicolo più
adatto e l'unico che gode di legitima autenticità per esprimere pienamente
la cultura romana, per guadagnare accesso alla sua letteratura, le sue idee
e filosofie, per permearsi dalla sua etica e le sue virtù, e per non solo
capire, ma anche adottare intimamente ed incorporare a perfezione la sua
completa visione del mondo ed il suo modo di vita; è anche l'unica lingua
nella quale possono debitamente adempirsi i riti religiosi romani.

Nova Roma mostra l'importanza essenziale di questa lingua in tutta la sua
terminologia: i diversi carichi di governo, i nomi ufficiali di leggi e
decreti, i nomi delle virtù vengono tutti espressi in latino.

È essenziale di promuovere la Lingua Latina e il suo ristabilimento in tutte
le circostanze della vita fra i nostri concittadini (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/lingua_latina.html).

La maggioranza della gente pensa che il latino è una lingua morta, così
morta come le virtù romane o la cultura che esprimeva; ma noi, come
novoromani, sappiamo che non deve essere necessariamente così, ne con le
virtù, ne con la cultura, ne con la lingua. Il latino fu la lingua viva dei
nostri antenati romani, ed è una lingua come tutte le altre, che può essere
imparata in maniera gradevole e parlarsi in tutte le situazioni della vita
quotidiana. Infatti, esiste già una grande comunità di parlanti di latino là
fuori chi lo prova, e si può trovare una gran quantità d'informazione in
questo rispetto in siti come

http://www.latinitatis.com/.

Non possiamo restare indietro. Siamo i legittimi depositari della cultura e
civiltà romane, e dovremmo essere capaci ed avere la assoluta volontà di
usare la lingua dei nostri maggiori come parte della nostra comprensiva
restaurazione d'ogni ciò ch'è romano.

So che c'è molta gente fra noi che ha imparato qualche latino nel passato,
ma hanno dimenticato così tanto che sonno adesso incapaci di approssimarsi
alla lingua dei nostri antenati per se stessi; altri ricorderanno ancora
abbastanza per leggerlo, ma non si sentono tuttavia in grado di usare la
lingua in maniera attiva. Può darsi che ci sia gente che stia anche adesso
imparando il latino in qualche altro posto, o altri che forse non hanno
studiato mai il latino. Chiunque, ripeto, chiunque, da quei che non abbiano
nessuna conoscenza previa assolutamente della lingua a quei che l'abbiano
imparato nel passato, o perfino quei che la stanno imparando ancora da
qualche parte, ma ancora non si sentono a suo agio con essa per usarla
attivamente, potranno ottenere un tremendo beneficio dai miei corsi.
Chiunque dunque voglia imparare la lingua latina per essere capace non solo
di leggere i suoi testi con intendimento ma anche scriverla con facilità e
parlarla fluidamente in ogni situazione in modo che l'idioma eterno dei
nostri antenati torni alla vita attiva e all'uso quotidiano, è invitato e
incoraggiato caldamente a iscriversi nei miei corsi.

Io, filologo latino nato a Caesaraugusta (Hispania) e residente a Londinium
(Anglia), con assoluta fluidità nella lingua e una prolungata esperienza
didattica, mi offro a portarvi ad un livello di latino nel quale potrete
cominciare la vostra esplorazione indipendente delle fonti, e anzi riportare
alla vita attiva e l'uso quotidiano la lingua eterna dei nostri maggiori.
Alla fine, potrete godere i testi latini non troppo contorti senza dipendere
servilmente dal dizionario, e sarete anche capaci di conversare in latino ad
un livello intermedio.

I miei corsi cominceranno il 13 (SL I & II) o 20 (SL I, SL II) di settembre
di 2757 [2004]. Il libro di testo è disponibile soltanto in francese ed in
italiano; è un'occasione unica, per cui ho voluto invitare caldamente il più
grande possibile numero di cittadini Italici di Nova Roma ad iscriversi. È
peccato, e una macchia appena comprensibile per questa speciale provincia
d'Italia, che l'anno scorso nessun citadino d'Italia abbia completato il
corso di latino.

Potrete informarvi molto più dettagliatamente sul corso e vi invito a
immatricularvi da.

Curate ut valeatis omnes!

Gallicé:

DE LINGVA LATINA IN NR: Apprenez à parler LATIN, inscrivez vous à nos cours!
DE LINGVA LATINA IN NR: Apprenez à parler LATIN, la langue de nos ancêtres!

A. Tullia Scholastica concivibus Gallis optimis suís S·P·D

Nous savons tous que l'objectif de Nova Roma (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/main.html) est une restauration générale de tous les
aspects de la civilisation romaine, de la politique à la religion, de la
philosophie à la gastronomie, la littérature ou les arts; avec un aspect clé
de cette culture romaine dans les Vertus qui ont donné à une petite ville
des bords du Tibre la force morale et pratique de gouverner une grande
partie du monde, vertus qui font cruellement défaut dans la société
d'aujourd'hui.

Il n'échappe toutefois à personne qu'il y a une langue dans laquelle ces
vertus et cette culture ont trouvé leur plus authentique et universelle
expression. La langue que Rome parlait était le LATIN. La langue latine est
le vehicule le plus adéquate, le plus authentique et le plus légitime pour
exprimer pleinement la culture romaine, pour avoir accès à sa litterature, à
ses idées, à sa philosophie, pour s'imprégner de son éthique et de ses
vertus, et pour non seulement comprendre, mais aussi adhérer intimement et
parfaitement à sa vision du monde et à sa manière de vivre; elle est aussi
la seule langue dans laquelle on peut comme il faut exécuter les rites
religieux romains.


Nova Roma montre l'importance essentielle de cette langue dans toute sa
terminologie: les differentes charges de gouvernement, les noms officiels
des lois et décrets, les noms des vertus sont tous exprimés en latin.

Il est essentiel de promouvoir la Lingua Latina et d'en rétablir l'usage
dans toutes les circonstances de la vie parmi nos concitoyens (cf.
http://www.novaroma.org/lingua_latina.html).

La plupart des gens pensent que le latin est une langue morte, aussi morte
que les vertus romaines ou la culture qu'elle exprimait; mais nous, en tant
que neoromains, savons qu'on ne doit accepter une telle fatalité ni pour les
vertus, ni pour la culture, ni pour la langue. Le latin fut la langue
vivante de nos ancêtres latins, et c'est une langue comme les autres, qui
peut être apprise d'une manière agréable et être parlée dans toutes les
situations de la vie quotidienne. En fait, il éxiste déjà une vaste
communauté de gens qui, de nos jours, parlent latin, et l'on peut en trouver
la preuve en visitant des sites comme
http://www.latinitatis.com/.

Nous ne pouvons pas rester indifférents. Nous sommes les dépositaires
légitimes de la culture et de la civilisation romaines, et nous devrions
être capables et avoir la volonté absolue d'utiliser la langue de notres
ancêtres comme faisant part de notre restauration globale de la romanité.

Je sais que beaucoup d'entre nous ont appris quelque peu de latin autrefois,
mais ils ont tant oublié qu'ils sont maintenant bien incapables de se
frotter sans aide à la langue de nos ancêtres; d'autres se rappeleront
encore assez pour le lire, mais ils ne se sentent malgré tout prêts pour
utiliser la langue d'une façon active. Peut être il-y-a du monde qui est
même maintenant en train de l'apprendre dans un autre lieu, ou d'autres qui
peut être n'ont jamais étudié le latin. N'importe qui, je répéte, n'importe
qui, de ceux qui n'ont absolument aucune connaissance de la langue à ceux
qui l'ont appris autrefois, ou même ceux qui sont en train de l'apprendre
encore dans un autre lieu, mais ne se sentent encore à l'aise avec elle pour
s'en servir activement, ils pourront obtenir un formidable bénéfice de mes
cours. N'importe qui, par conséquent, qui veuille apprendre la langue latine
pour être capable pas simplement de lire ses textes avec compréhension mais
aussi de l¹écrire avec facilité et la parler fluidement dans toutes les
situations de manière que l'idiome eternel de nos aïeux retourne à la vie
active et à l'usage quotidien, il est invité et encouragé instamment à
s'inscrire dans mes cours.


Moi, philologue latin né à Caesaraugusta (Hispania) et résidant à Londinium
(Anglia), parlant couramment la langue et ayant une longue experience
didactique, je m'offre à vous porter à un niveau de latin par lequel vous
pourrez commencer votre exploration independante des sources, et même
utiliser dans la vie active et quotidienne notre éternelle langue latine. Au
final, vour pourrez apprécier des textes latins pas trop difficiles sans
dépendre servilement du dictionnaire, et vous serez aussi capables de
converser dans un latin de niveau intermédiaire.


Mes cours commenceront le 13 (SL I & II) ou le 20 (SL I, SL II) septembre
2763 [2010]. Le livre de texte est disponible seulement en français et en
italien (l'original ayant êté écrit par le français Clément Desessard); une
raison de plus pour inviter spécialement les citoyens de Nova Roma Gallia à
s'inscrire. C'est dommage, et une tache à peine compréhensible pour la
province, que l'année dernière aucun citoyen de la Gallia n'a complété le
cours de latin.

Vous pourrez vous informer beaucoup plus en détail sur le cours et je vous
invite a vous inscrire.

Curate ut valeatis omnes!





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A. Tullia Scholastica wrote:

> A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis
> S.P.D.
>
> Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin

"Multilingual protreptic"?

Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
the potential students.

Vedius, the plain-spoken

Salvete;
Minerva!, instead of relishing the new, I think this is the first time I've ever seen the word protreptic (and I'm going to look it up), there is the clamour to use a short anglo-saxon word.

I treasured the day Avitus critiqued my protasis; I thought: 'I've never received such an erudite insult in my life!'
Vivat Latinitas
M. Hortensia maior


Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin

>
> "Multilingual protreptic"?
>
> Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
> the potential students.
>
> Vedius, the plain-spoken
>

Perhaps to use a word that doesn't need to be looked up in the first
place, Anglo-Saxon or no...

rory12001 wrote:

> Salvete;
> Minerva!, instead of relishing the new, I think this is the first time I've ever seen the word protreptic (and I'm going to look it up), there is the clamour to use a short anglo-saxon word.
>
> I treasured the day Avitus critiqued my protasis; I thought: 'I've never received such an erudite insult in my life!'
> Vivat Latinitas
> M. Hortensia maior
>
>
> Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin
>
>> "Multilingual protreptic"?
>>
>> Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
>> the potential students.
>>
>> Vedius, the plain-spoken
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica M. Hortensiae Majori Flavio Vedio Germanico quiritibus,
> sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> Salvete;
> Minerva!, instead of relishing the new, I think this is the first time I've
> ever seen the word protreptic (and I'm going to look it up),
>
>
> ATS: I have seen it many times, mostly in regard to philosophy. It more
> or less means an exhortation, encouragement.
>
>
> there is the clamour to use a short anglo-saxon word.
>
> ATS: Yahoo doesn¹t want us to use those short Anglo-Saxon words
> here...and REAL Anglo-Saxon was equipped with the full armory of the Germanic
> languages: der Wörter, ein Wörter, irregular declensions, the whole schmear.
> My guess is that a lot of the words were anything BUT short. German ones
> certainly can grow quite nicely.
>
> I treasured the day Avitus critiqued my protasis; I thought: 'I've never
> received such an erudite insult in my life!'
>
> ATS: LOL! With him you will definitely get erudite...and multi-lingual!
> Cras Barcinonem discedet, ergo parum audiemus.
>
> Vivat Latinitas
>
> ATS: Rectissimé!
>
> M. Hortensia maior
>
> Valete!
>
>
> Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin
>> >
>> > "Multilingual protreptic"?
>> >
>> > Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
>> > the potential students.
>> >
>> > Vedius, the plain-spoken
>> >
>
>
>

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>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Flavio Vedio Germanico quiritibus, sociis,
> peregrinisque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica wrote:
>> > A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque bonae voluntatis
>> > S.P.D.
>> >
>> > Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin
>
> "Multilingual protreptic"?
>
> Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
> the potential students.
>
> ATS: Oh, I think it is the prospect of work which scares some of them.
> The word Latin all by itself can instill fear in some...
>
> However, we have a perfectly normal complement of students in both
> intermediate classes, and for the last two years have started Sermo I with 30
> students, most of whom are from outside Nova Roma. Many are Spanish speakers.
> Since the Europeans are on vacation, pretending to have lost their
> blackberries, blueberries, raspberries, apples, or whatever wireless net
> contraptions they have, plus are accustomed to starting class so late in the
> year that school would proceed through June and July, we have to keep nagging
> them. It does not help that the text is difficult to obtain, and very
> expensive when purchased...though it is available through file transfer.
>
> As for multilingual, Avitus used only four of the 15 languages he knows in
> this post, even omitting our belovèd Latin. Thus the text is indeed
> multilingual...and a protreptic, for it encourages people to study Latin,
> especially by participating in the Sermo Latinus courses.
>
> I do hope that none of the deities is in fact bloodstained...
>
>
> Vedius, the plain-spoken
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Scholastica the academic
>
>
>

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>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Pompeio Marcello S.P.D.
>
>
> Salve Domina,
> Not sure I will do very good, but I will give it a try.
>
>
> ATS: That¹s all anyone can do. Please arm yourself with the text
> (Wheelock or Assimil) and let me know when you have it. The Wheelock text is
> not terribly expensive and is readily available in English-speaking countries,
> though the Assimil one is neither easy to obtain nor cheap. It is, however,
> quite good, though the newer version of Assimil is horrid. If all else fails,
> too, Wheelock has self-teaching exercises and answers in the back of the book
> which will help with further learning. There are good reasons why this text
> is so popular, and this is one of them.
>
> Vale,
> Gaius Pompeius Marcellus
>
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:19:27 -0400
> "A. Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@... <mailto:flavia%40localnet.com> >
> wrote:
>> > A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
>> > voluntatis S.P.D.
>> >
>> > Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
>> > particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th, the US
>> > Labor Day holiday (though students need not appear until the following
>> day),
>> > and Grammatica II will begin in just two short weeks, on Monday, August
>> > 30th.
>> >
>> > The text for the Grammatica classes is Wheelock¹s Latin, by Frederic
>> > Wheelock, sixth edition, revised by LaFleur. This is readily available in
>> > US college bookstores belonging to institutions which teach Latin as it is
>> > very popular and is used in most such institutions of higher education,
>> > though some prefer another text. It may also be ordered via the Wheelock
>> > website <http://www.wheelockslatin.com>
>> >
>> > As previously noted, the first semester of Grammatica Latina I covers
>> > the first 11 lessons of this text, and the separate second semester course
>> > covers the next 11 lessons. After the first week of the first semester,
>> > during which three preliminary lessons are presented, a lesson from the
>> text
>> > is presented every Monday, and written homework is assigned in order to
>> > solidify the concepts presented in the text. A similar program is observed
>> > in the second semester course. In the intermediate level Grammatica II, we
>> > now cover lessons 23-34 in the newly-separated first semester course, and
>> > address the remaining lessons in the second semester course (lessons
>> 35-40),
>> > followed by readings from the text and other sources. We shall meet Caesar
>> > and Cicero and Pliny and Horace and Catullus there, inter alios, and will
>> > also learn some spoken Latin and possibly engage in activities such as are
>> > conducted at the Latin-immersion conventicula.
>> >
>> > As for the Sermo Latinus courses, which begin somewhat later to
>> > accommodate the now-vacationing Europeans, we cover lessons 1-56 of the
>> > Desessard Assimil text in the separate Sermo I course, and lessons 57-101
>> in
>> > the separate Sermo II one, while all 101 lessons are covered in the
>> Combined
>> > Sermo Latinus I & II course. The text for all of these is Le Latin Sans
>> > Peine, by Clement Desessard. The text is also available in Italian; I
>> > believe that the title is Il Latino senza Sforzo. Those who cannot read
>> > either French or Italian should not worry; we have translated the text into
>> > both English and Spanish for the benefit of our students, and reveal these
>> > translations along with each lesson. The French version of the text has
>> > gone out of print, but can be obtained online either by purchase of a used
>> > copy or by file-sharing.
>> > Sermo I & II Combined will begin September 13th, and the separate Sermo I
>> > and Sermo II will begin a week later, on Monday, September 20th.
>> >
>> > All of our Latin classes require effort on the part of the student, but
>> > the benefits are great. Cultores should learn just what those prayers
>> > actually say, and everyone should be able to pick up a Latin text and make
>> > some sense out of it, if not read and understand it (though that should
>> come
>> > after a couple of years of Latin, though not just one year, except in the
>> > Combined course). The Grammatica courses are taught by the traditional
>> > method for the most part, and require memorization of vocabulary and
>> > paradigms, inter alia; the Assimil Sermo courses are taught by a more
>> > natural method, and work better for some students. The main focus of
>> > Grammatica is learning to read Latin (though we do more than that), and
>> that
>> > of Sermo is learning to write and speak in Latin, though obviously reading
>> > is not neglected. I strongly encourage everyone to make the effort to
>> learn
>> > the language of the Romans, which, although having a grammar complex by the
>> > standards of English, has a small vocabulary as languages go, and that
>> > grammar is quite regular. Quite honestly, if more of you do not enter our
>> > classes and complete them, we shall stop offering them, or reduce their
>> > frequency. I have moved all completing students who wished to continue
>> into
>> > the intermediate courses, but every year fewer and fewer students want to
>> > take Grammatica I, and this year we have very few in the Combined class and
>> > in Sermo I. The Sermo classes are unique in the world, and everyone should
>> > take advantage of them while we can still offer them. A basic knowledge of
>> > Latin is helpful, but not essential. The pace is brisk, but the textbook
>> > lessons are short, with grammar addressed only every seventh lesson.
>> Please
>> > consider taking these courses; there may still be time to obtain the
>> > Desessard text.
>> >
>> > Valete.
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>
>
>

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M.Hortensia Major A. Tulliae Scholasticae spd;
Deutche isn't so easy, what with those quirky separable prefixes, and long long word; can you say weltanschung;-)

Catalani non sunt hispanice loquentes (istas odere); ergo nonne latinam linguam discent?
valeas
Maior

-

> >
> > ATS: Yahoo doesn¹t want us to use those short Anglo-Saxon words
> > here...and REAL Anglo-Saxon was equipped with the full armory of the Germanic
> > languages: der Wörter, ein Wörter, irregular declensions, the whole schmear.
> > My guess is that a lot of the words were anything BUT short. German ones
> > certainly can grow quite nicely.
> >
> > I treasured the day Avitus critiqued my protasis; I thought: 'I've never
> > received such an erudite insult in my life!'
> >
> > ATS: LOL! With him you will definitely get erudite...and multi-lingual!
> > Cras Barcinonem discedet, ergo parum audiemus.
> >
> > Vivat Latinitas
> >
> > ATS: Rectissimé!
> >
> > M. Hortensia maior
> >
> > Valete!
> >
> >
> > Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin
> >> >
> >> > "Multilingual protreptic"?
> >> >
> >> > Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
> >> > the potential students.
> >> >
> >> > Vedius, the plain-spoken
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve,

"Deutsch" and "Weltanschauung".

Vale,

GG

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
>
> M.Hortensia Major A. Tulliae Scholasticae spd;
> Deutche isn't so easy, what with those quirky separable prefixes, and long long word; can you say weltanschung;-)
>
> Catalani non sunt hispanice loquentes (istas odere); ergo nonne latinam linguam discent?
> valeas
> Maior
>
> -
> > >
> > > ATS: Yahoo doesn¹t want us to use those short Anglo-Saxon words
> > > here...and REAL Anglo-Saxon was equipped with the full armory of the Germanic
> > > languages: der Wörter, ein Wörter, irregular declensions, the whole schmear.
> > > My guess is that a lot of the words were anything BUT short. German ones
> > > certainly can grow quite nicely.
> > >
> > > I treasured the day Avitus critiqued my protasis; I thought: 'I've never
> > > received such an erudite insult in my life!'
> > >
> > > ATS: LOL! With him you will definitely get erudite...and multi-lingual!
> > > Cras Barcinonem discedet, ergo parum audiemus.
> > >
> > > Vivat Latinitas
> > >
> > > ATS: Rectissimé!
> > >
> > > M. Hortensia maior
> > >
> > > Valete!
> > >
> > >
> > > Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin
> > >> >
> > >> > "Multilingual protreptic"?
> > >> >
> > >> > Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
> > >> > the potential students.
> > >> >
> > >> > Vedius, the plain-spoken
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Valerianus and I have set up a sodalitas specifically aimed at families in
Nova Roma, and we would like to welcome anyone who feels that they would
like to join to check it out! The list will be moderated because we would
like to encourage the children of Nova Roma to participate as well. We hope
this becomes a safe and friendly place for families to discuss everything it
means to be a Roman family. Hope to see some new faces! Valete!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SodalitasFamiliarum/


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Salvete collega,

At Ides Sext. the rite of Ides was not conducted due to misunderstanding with coincidence of the date of Ides and Dies Religiosus.
I, M.Octavius Corvus on behalf of People of Nova Roma performed Ides ritual for IOM on August 13th, using the pattern sent to me by PM M.Moravius Piscinus Horatianus, as usual. Ap. Furius Lupus assisted me.
Rite was performed before the altar of Iuppiter.
Sacrifice was: incense, libum, wine. During the ritual a group of small birds of about 10 (perhaps sparrows)came from left to right right behind the altar. I consider this as unfavourable sighn for our Res Publica.
Optime valete,

CORVVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "mcorvvs" <mcorvvs@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete collega,
>
> At Ides Iunius the rite of Ides was not conducted due to misunderstanding with coincidence of the date of Ides and Dies Religiosus.
> I, M.Octavius Corvus on behalf of People of Nova Roma performed Ides ritual for IOM on June 17th, using the pattern sent to me by PM M.Moravius Piscinus Horatianus, as usual. T. Iunius Brutus ans Ap. Furius Lupus assisted me.
> Rite was performed before the altar of Iuppiter.
> Sacrifice was: incense, libum, wine. During the ritual there was a complete silencium. No birds movement was detedted. The smoke from the sacrifice went toward me and kept going in my direction, obstructing further ritual and pronouncing the prayers. I consider this like the sign that my offer was not accepted by the God.
> I repated the Ides ritual on June 19th. T. Iunius Brutus ans Ap. Furius Lupus assisted me again. No birds movement was detedted. But the smoke came in the north-east direction, what I consider as a sign of acceptance of our offering by Iuppiter.
>
> Optime valete,
>
> CORVVS
>

On pr. Kal. Sex. (July 31-st) cives of first NovaRoman municipium celebrated the approval of thir Foedus by Senate of Nova Roma. 31 citizens of 36 were present and 5 guests invited.
At the moment Minicipium Poltava is waiting for appointment of its first duumviri for conductiong the election.
You can find FOEDUS and corresponding Senatus Consulta here: http://novaroma.org/nr/Senatus_consultum_de_Municipio_Poltava_(Nova_Roma)
Photos from this event can be found here: http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/CELEBRATINGMVNICIPIVMPOLTAVAAPPROVALBYSENATEOFNR#

From Kal. Sex. till a.d. VII Id. Sex. (August 1 - 7th) Second Novaroman
Sarmatian provincial festival FERIAE SARMATIAE was held in
Poltava.Program was:- Kal. Sex. - Immolatio;- a.d. IV Non. Sex. -
Sacrifice at the Holy Oaks (Dykanka, 25 km from Poltava);- pr. Non. Sex.
- Wedding ceremony by confarreatio for three couples conducted by
Pontifex Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and Sacerdos Iovis M. Octavius Corvus.-
a.d. VII Id. Sex. - Rite of VOTVM SARMATARVM. See the full text below.
- Rite of Consecration Augur M. Lucretius Agricola performed by Pontifex
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus. - Rite of consecrating the
Templum for building the Aedes of Iuppiter, performed by Pontifex Cn.
Cornelius Lentulus, Augur M. Lucretius Agricola and Sacerdos Iovis M.
Octavius Corvus.
FULL TEXT OF SARMATIAN VOTUM
Here, at the Altar of Iuppiter Perunus in Poltava, in the province
ofSarmatia of Nova Roma, I, M.Octavius Corvus, I, T. Iunius Brutus, I,
Ap. Furius Lupus, do give this Votum and swear to fulfilthe following:
Hic apud aram Iovis Peruni Poltavae in provincia Sarmatia Nova Romana,
ego, M.Octavius Corvus, ego, T. Iunius Brutus, ego, Ap. Furius Lupus,
hoc votum facio et in haec verba iuro me facturum:
- by the end of the first 9 years, starting from this day, to have
notless than 3 oppida in Sarmatia, 10 families living in one
neighborhood and small Temple of IuppiterPerunus(6x12 meters) built;
- uti primis IX annis exactis hocce die inceptis oppida non minus quam
III in Sarmatia condantur, X familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedesque
parva Iovis Peruni non minor VI XII metris construatur;
- by the end of the second 9 years, to have not less than 5 oppida,50
families living in one neighborhood and small Temple of
IuppiterPerunus(6x12 meters) plus altars of Mars, Quirinus, Iuno and
Minerva built;
- uti alteris IX annis exactis oppida non minus quam V condantur, L
familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedes parva Iovis Peruni non minor VI
XII metris, arae Marti, Quirino, Iunoni, Minervae construantur;
- by the end of the third 9 years, to have not less than 15 oppida,500
families living in one neighborhood and the Temple of Iuppiter Perunusof
size not less than original Temple of Iuppiter Capitolinus in Ancient
Rome.
- uti tertiis IX annis exactis oppida non minus quam XV condantur, D
familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedes Iovis Peruni non minor templo Iovis
Capitolini Romae antiquo.
For this I ask Immortal Gods, and Iuppiter Optimus Maximus in the
firstplace, to grant me Their blessings and all the necessary will,
wisdom and strenght.
Harum rerum ergo Deos Immortales in primis Iovem Optimum Maximum precor,
uti sint mihi volentes propitii et voluntatem, sapientiam, fortitudinem
necessariam mihi tribuant.
By this Votum I do swear that I will never break this oath and I
willnever let to do this to anyone and all who are now taking this same
oath with me.
Hoc voto ius iurandum do me numquam hoc votum neglecturum, neminique
eorum qui in eadem verba mecum iuraverunt aut aliorum concessurum, ut
hoc neglegat.
If I should ever fail to fulfil this Votum I shall consecrate to the
Godsof the Underworld my immortal soul and fortune of my kin up to the
seventh generation to come.
Si sciens fefellero votumque solvere non potuero, animam meam immortalem
ac fortunam familiae meae usque ad generationem septimam Inferis
consecrabo.
In this I, M.Octavius Corvus, I, T. Iunius Brutus, I, Ap. Furius Lupus,
do swear.
In haec verba ego, M.Octavius Corvus, ego, T. Iunius Brutus, ego, Ap.
Furius Lupus ius iurandum do.
*****
Photos from FERAE SARMATIAE can be found here:
http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII#
<http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII#>
Special thanks for Tiberius Claudius Drusus and his Bulgarian coleagues
for his significant help in preparing the wedding ritual.
NOTICE: All three wedding conducted in Sarmatia by confarreatio ritual,
rites of consecration and making an Oath were REAL RITES and not any
kind of reenactment events.


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Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodie est ante diem XVII Kalendas Septembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"Zeus, king of gods, made Metis his first wife,/she who knows most of
gods and mortal men./But when she was about to bear the owl-eyed
(glaukopin)/goddess Athena, then he deceived her mind with a trick of
wily words, and put her down in his belly,/by the advice of Gaia
(Earth) and starry Ouranos (Sky). Thus they advised him, so that no
other of the eternal/gods would hold the office of king but Zeus. For
from her wise children were fated to be born:/first a daughter,
owl-eyed Tritogeneia, like her father in strength and wise
counsel,/but then she was going to bear a son proud of heart, king of
gods and men;/but first Zeus put her into his own belly, so that the
goddess might advise him on good and evil." - Hesiod, Theogony 886-900

"Zeus had intercourse with Metis, although she changed into many
shapes to avoid making love with him. While she was pregnant Zeus
swallowed her up, for Earth said that after she bore the daughter she
was now carrying she would produce a son who would be ruler over
heaven. Fearing this, he swallowed her. Prometheus or as some say,
Hephaestus struck Zeus' head with an axe when the time came for her to
give birth and Athena leaped from it in full armor at the river
Triton." - Apollodorus, The Library 3.6

"And they that held Athens, the well-built citadel, the land of
great-hearted Erechtheus, whom of old Athene, daughter of Zeus,
fostered, when the earth, the giver of grain, had borne him; and she
made him to dwell in Athens, in her own rich sanctuary, and
there the youths of the Athenians, as the years roll on in their
courses, seek to win his favor with sacrifices of bulls and rams..."
- Homer, Iliad 2.546-551

"Of Pallas Athena, guardian of the city, I begin to sing. Dread is
she, and with Ares she loves the deeds of war, the sack of cities and
the shouting and the battle. It is she who saves the people as they go
to war and come back. Hail, goddess, and give us good fortune and
happiness!" - Homeric Hymn 11 to Athena

"I begin to sing of Pallas Athena, the glorious goddess, bright-eyed,
inventive, unbending of heart, pure virgin, saviour of cities,
courageous, Tritogeneia (Of Trito Born). From his awful head wise Zeus
himself bare her arrayed in warlike arms of flashing gold, and awe
seized all the gods as they gazed. But Athena sprang quickly from the
immortal head and stood before Zeus who holds the aegis, shaking a
sharp spear: great Olympos began to reel horribly at the might of the
grey-eyed goddess, and earth round about cried fearfully, and the sea
was moved and tossed with dark waves, while foam burst forth suddenly:
the bright Son of Hyperion [the Sun] stopped his swift-footed horses a
long while, until the maiden Pallas Athena had stripped the heavenly
armour from her immortal shoulders. And wise Zeus was glad. Hail to
you, daughter of Zeus who holds the aegis!" - Homeric Hymn 29 to Athena

"Only-begotten, noble race of Zeus, blessed and fierce, who joyest in
caves to rove: O warlike Pallas, whose illustrious kind, ineffable,
and effable we find: magnanimous and famed, the rocky height, and
groves, and shady mountains thee delight: in arms rejoicing, who with
furies dire and wild the souls of mortals dost inspire. Gymnastic
virgin of terrific mind, dire Gorgon's bane, unmarried, blessed, kind:
mother of arts, impetuous; understood as fury by the bad, but wisdom
by the good. Female and male, the arts of war are thine, O
much-formed, Drakaina, inspired divine: over the Phlegraion Gigantes,
roused to ire, thy coursers driving with destructive dire.
Tritogeneia, of splendid mien, purger of evils, all-victorious queen.
Hear me, O Goddess, when to thee I pray, with supplicating voice both
night and day, and in my latest hour give peace and health, propitious
times, and necessary wealth, and ever present be thy votaries aid, O
much implored, art's parent, blue-eyed maid." - Orphic Hymn 32 to Athena

Today marks the last day of the Panathenaic Games held in ancient
Greece. The Panathenaic Games were a set of games held every four
years in Athens, and were actually part of a much larger religious
festival, the Panathenaia, which was held every year. Every fourth
year when the games were also held, the festival was known as the
"Great Panathenaia," and was 3 or 4 days longer than the regular
festival. They were the most prestigious games for the citizens of
Athens, but they were not as important as the Olympic Games or the
other Panhellenic Games.

The first Great Panathenaia was organized by Pisistratus in 566 BC,
and was modelled on the Olympic Games. Pisistratus also added music
and poetry competitions, which were part of the Pythian Games but not
the Olympics. The games were divided into games for Athenians only,
and games for Athenians and any other Greeks who wanted to
participate. The games for all Greeks were essentially the same as the
Olympics, with boxing, wrestling, pankration, pentathlon, and chariot
racing, but chariot racing was the most prestigious of these, unlike
the Olympics where the stadion (foot race) was more important. The
winner of the chariot race received as a prize 140 "Panathenaic
Amphorae" full of olive oil.

The games in which only the Athenians were allowed to participate were
somewhat different. These included a torch race to the Parthenon (the
ancestor of the modern Olympic torch relay that takes place prior to
the Games), mock infantry and cavalry battles, a javelin throw on
horseback, the apobatai (a chariot race in which the driver had to
jump out of the chariot, run alongside, and jump back in), the
pyrriche (apparently military exercises accompanied by music), and the
euandrion (essentially a beauty contest among the athletes). In later
years there was also a rowing competition.

The Panathenaea also included poetic and musical competitions. Prizes
were awarded for rhapsodic recitation of Homeric poetry, for
instrumental music on the aulos (double oboe) and kithara (lyre), and
for singing to the accompaniment of the aulos (aulody) and kithara
(citharody).

The procession to the Parthenon was, however, more important than the
games themselves. During the Great Panathenaia (but not the regular
Panathenaia held every year), a special robe (the peplos) was made by
the women of Athens for the statue of Athena, which was carried to the
Parthenon as part of the procession. There was also a large sacrifice
made to Athena, the hekatombe ("sacrifice of a hundred oxen") and the
meat from the sacrificed animals was used in an enormous banquet on
the final night of the festival, the pannychis ("all-nighter").

Valete bene!

Cato

M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus Pontifex Maximus Quiritibus, cultoribus Deorum, Quiritibus et omnibus salute plurimam dicit: Tum nos faciat quod volt Portunus!

Hodie est ante diem XVII Kalendas Septembras; haec dies comitialis est:

"If showers prevail at the setting of the Dolphin, they will not cease so long as while Arcturus remains visible." ~ G. Plinius Secundus, Historia Naturalis 18.74


AUC 460 / 293 BCE: Papirius and the Pullarius

"After receiving the reply from his colleague, Papirius rose quietly in the third watch of the night and sent a pullarius to observe the omens. There was not a man, whatever his rank or condition, in the camp who was not seized by the passion for battle, the highest and lowest alike were eagerly looking forward to it; the general was watching the excited looks of the men, the men were looking at their general, the universal excitement extended even to those who were engaged in observing the sacred birds. The chickens refused to eat, but the pullarius ventured to misrepresent matters, and reported to the consul that they had eaten so greedily that the corn dropped from their mouths on to the ground. The consul, delighted at the news, gave out that the omens could not have been more favourable; they were going to engage the enemy under the guidance and blessing of heaven. . .

"While the consul was busy with these arrangements an altercation began between the pullarii about the omens which had been observed in the morning. Some of the Roman cavalry overheard it and thought it of sufficient importance to justify them in reporting to Spurius Papirius, the consul's nephew, that the omens were being called in question. This young man, born in an age when men were not yet taught to despise the Gods, inquired into the matter in order to make quite sure that what he was reporting was true and then laid it before the consul. He thanked him for the trouble he had taken and bade him have no fears. "But," he continued, "if the man who is watching the omens makes a false report, he brings down the divine wrath on his own head. As far as I am concerned, I have received the formal intimation that the chickens ate eagerly, there could be no more favourable omen for the Roman people and army." He then issued instructions to the centurions to place the pullarius in front of the fighting line. The standards of the Samnites were now advancing, followed by the army in gorgeous array; even to their enemies they presented a magnificent sight. Before the battle-shout was raised or the lines closed a chance javelin struck the pullarius and he fell in front of the standards. When this was reported to the consul he remarked, "The Gods are taking their part in the battle, the guilty man has met with his punishment." ~ T. Livius 10.40


Early use of Statues in Italy

"Various circumstances prove, that the art of making statues was commonly practised in Italy at an early period. The statue in the Forum Boarium is said to have been consecrated to Hercules by Evander; it is called the triumphal Hercules, and, on the occasion of triumphal processions, is arrayed in triumphal vestments. And then besides, King Numa dedicated the statue of the two-faced Janus; a deity who is worshipped as presiding over both peace and war. The fingers, too, are so formed as to indicate three hundred and sixty-five days, or in other words, the year; thus denoting that he is the god of time and duration.

"There are also Etruscan statues dispersed in various parts of the world, which beyond a doubt were originally made in Etruria. I should have supposed that these had been the statues only of divinities, had not Metrodorus of Scepsis, who had his surname from his hatred to the Roman name, reproached us with having pillaged the city of Volsinii for the sake of the two thousand statues which it contained. It appears to me a singular fact. that although the origin of statues was of such great antiquity in Italy, the images of the gods, which were consecrated to them in their temples, should have been formed either of wood or of earthenware, until the conquest of Asia, which introduced luxury among us. It will be the best plan to enlarge upon the origin of the art of expressing likenesses, when we come to speak of what the Greeks call 'plastice;' for the art of modelling was prior to that of statuary." ~ G. Plinius Secundus, Historia Naturalis 34.16

Statue of Cato the Elder

"Seeing that statues were being set up in honour of many men, he said, 'As for myself, I had rather that men should ask why there is not a statue of Cato than why there is.'" ~ Plutarch, Sayings of Cato the Elder 10


Patratus of the Fetiales

"Why, among those called Fetiales, or, as we should say in Greek, peace-makers or treaty-bringers, was he who was called pater patratus considered the chief? The pater patratus is a man whose father is still alive and who has children; even now he possesses a certain preferment and confidence, for the praetors entrust to him any wards whose beauty and youth require a careful and discreet guardianship. Is it because there attaches to these men respect for their children and reverence for their fathers? Or does the name suggest the reason? For patratus means, as it were, 'completed' or 'perfected,' since he to whose lot it has fallen cto become a father while he still has a father is more perfect than other men. Or should the man who presides over oaths and treaties of peace be, in the words of Homer, 'one looking before and after?' Such a man above all others would be he that has a son to plan for and a father to plan with." ~ Plutarch, Roman Questions 62


Today's thought is from Sextus, Select Sentences 93:

"It is not possible for a man to live conformable to divinity, unless he acts modestly, well, and justly."

Senatores, omnesque



In due application of our law, I intend convening the Senate (aka Board of NR Inc.) in this second half of August.



The agenda will be defined later, but will focus mainly on the legal questions raised during the last weeks, and the necessary work to re-start on the By-laws or any alternate solution that the Senate/Board will decide to choose.





Valete Patres et omnes,







Albucius cos.


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Cato Piscino sal.

You persist in using an incorrect form, Piscinus.

While consistency is a generally admirable trait, a determined choice to remain in error is not simply foolish but in this instance detrimental to the public face of the Respublica.

The month is "Septembris", NOT "Septembras", and the proper declension is "Septembris".

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@...> wrote:
>

> Hodie est ante diem XVII Kalendas Septembras; haec dies comitialis est:

As the month of April are, mutatis mutandis, the months of June, September
and November. To do this properly we will consider:


1. Do not mislead the month that we are computing and always take into
account the following month in which we are forming.
2. The decline to which belongs each adjective: 3rd declension (�prilis,
September, October, November and December) and 1st decline (Ianuarius-a-um,
Februarius-a-um, Martius-ia-ium, Maius-ia-ium, Iunius-ia-ium,
Julius-a-um, Augustus-a-um).
3. Exchanging the first declension endings and the third decline in the
ablative and accusative plural cases:
- The termination of ablative plural in-ibus who take the words of the
3rd is replaced by the termination -is of the ablative plural of
the 1st and
vice versa.
- The termination of the accusative plural in-is typical of the words
of the 3rd declension is replaced by the termination -as of the
accusative
plural of the 1st decline and vice versa.


1. KALENDIS APRILIBVS
2. POSTRIDIE KALENDAS APRILES
3. ANTE DIEM III NONAS APRILES
4. PRIDIE NONAS APRILES
5. NONIS APRILIBVS
6. POSTRIDIE NONAS APRILES
7. ANTE DIEM VII IDVS APRILES
8. ANTE DIEM VI IDVS APRILES
9. ANTE DIEM V IDVS APRILES
10. ANTE DIEM IV IDVS APRILES
11. ANTE DIEM III IDVS APRILES
12. PRIDIE IDVS APRILES
13. IDIBVS APRILIBVS
14. POSTRIDIE IDVS APRILES
15. ANTE DIEM XVII KALENDAS MAIAS
16. ANTE DIEM XVI KALENDAS MAIAS
17. ANTE DIEM XV KALENDAS MAIAS
18. ANTE DIEM XIV KALENDAS MAIAS
19. ANTE DIEM XIII KALENDAS MAIAS
20. ANTE DIEM XII KALENDAS MAIAS
21. ANTE DIEM XI KALENDAS MAIAS
22. ANTE DIEM X KALENDAS MAIAS
23. ANTE DIEM IX KALENDAS MAIAS
24. ANTE DIEM VIII KALENDAS MAIAS
25. ANTE DIEM VII KALENDAS MAIAS
26. ANTE DIEM VI KALENDAS MAIAS
27. ANTE DIEM V KALENDAS MAIAS
28. ANTE DIEM IV KALENDAS MAIAS
29. ANTE DIEM III KALENDAS MAIAS
30. PRIDIE KALENDAS MAIAS.



M�CVRIATIVS�COMPLVTENSIS
PROCONSVL HISPANIAE

NOVA ROMA

-------------------------------------------

ex paucis multa, ex minimis maxima


2010/8/16 Cato <catoinnyc@...>

>
>
> Cato Piscino sal.
>
> You persist in using an incorrect form, Piscinus.
>
> While consistency is a generally admirable trait, a determined choice to
> remain in error is not simply foolish but in this instance detrimental to
> the public face of the Respublica.
>
> The month is "Septembris", NOT "Septembras", and the proper declension is
> "Septembris".
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@...> wrote:
> >
>
> > Hodie est ante diem XVII Kalendas Septembras; haec dies comitialis est:
>
>
>

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Gratia,
Have accounts at Amazon and Barnes and Noble, should be no problem.
Vale,


On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:53:40 -0400
"A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...> wrote:

>>
>>
>> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Pompeio Marcello S.P.D.
>>
>>
>> Salve Domina,
>> Not sure I will do very good, but I will give it a try.
>>
>>
>> ATS: That¹s all anyone can do. Please arm yourself with the text
>> (Wheelock or Assimil) and let me know when you have it. The Wheelock text
>>is
>> not terribly expensive and is readily available in English-speaking
>>countries,
>> though the Assimil one is neither easy to obtain nor cheap. It is, however,
>> quite good, though the newer version of Assimil is horrid. If all else
>>fails,
>> too, Wheelock has self-teaching exercises and answers in the back of the
>>book
>> which will help with further learning. There are good reasons why this text
>> is so popular, and this is one of them.
>>
>> Vale,
>> Gaius Pompeius Marcellus
>>
>>
>> Vale, et valete.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:19:27 -0400
>> "A. Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@... <mailto:flavia%40localnet.com>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>> > A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
>>> > voluntatis S.P.D.
>>> >
>>> > Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
>>> > particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th, the US
>>> > Labor Day holiday (though students need not appear until the following
>>> day),
>>> > and Grammatica II will begin in just two short weeks, on Monday, August
>>> > 30th.
>>> >
>>> > The text for the Grammatica classes is Wheelock¹s Latin, by Frederic
>>> > Wheelock, sixth edition, revised by LaFleur. This is readily available in
>>> > US college bookstores belonging to institutions which teach Latin as it is
>>> > very popular and is used in most such institutions of higher education,
>>> > though some prefer another text. It may also be ordered via the Wheelock
>>> > website <http://www.wheelockslatin.com>
>>> >
>>> > As previously noted, the first semester of Grammatica Latina I covers
>>> > the first 11 lessons of this text, and the separate second semester course
>>> > covers the next 11 lessons. After the first week of the first semester,
>>> > during which three preliminary lessons are presented, a lesson from the
>>> text
>>> > is presented every Monday, and written homework is assigned in order to
>>> > solidify the concepts presented in the text. A similar program is
>>>observed
>>> > in the second semester course. In the intermediate level Grammatica II,
>>>we
>>> > now cover lessons 23-34 in the newly-separated first semester course, and
>>> > address the remaining lessons in the second semester course (lessons
>>> 35-40),
>>> > followed by readings from the text and other sources. We shall meet
>>>Caesar
>>> > and Cicero and Pliny and Horace and Catullus there, inter alios, and will
>>> > also learn some spoken Latin and possibly engage in activities such as are
>>> > conducted at the Latin-immersion conventicula.
>>> >
>>> > As for the Sermo Latinus courses, which begin somewhat later to
>>> > accommodate the now-vacationing Europeans, we cover lessons 1-56 of the
>>> > Desessard Assimil text in the separate Sermo I course, and lessons 57-101
>>> in
>>> > the separate Sermo II one, while all 101 lessons are covered in the
>>> Combined
>>> > Sermo Latinus I & II course. The text for all of these is Le Latin Sans
>>> > Peine, by Clement Desessard. The text is also available in Italian; I
>>> > believe that the title is Il Latino senza Sforzo. Those who cannot read
>>> > either French or Italian should not worry; we have translated the text
>>>into
>>> > both English and Spanish for the benefit of our students, and reveal these
>>> > translations along with each lesson. The French version of the text has
>>> > gone out of print, but can be obtained online either by purchase of a used
>>> > copy or by file-sharing.
>>> > Sermo I & II Combined will begin September 13th, and the separate Sermo I
>>> > and Sermo II will begin a week later, on Monday, September 20th.
>>> >
>>> > All of our Latin classes require effort on the part of the student, but
>>> > the benefits are great. Cultores should learn just what those prayers
>>> > actually say, and everyone should be able to pick up a Latin text and make
>>> > some sense out of it, if not read and understand it (though that should
>>> come
>>> > after a couple of years of Latin, though not just one year, except in the
>>> > Combined course). The Grammatica courses are taught by the traditional
>>> > method for the most part, and require memorization of vocabulary and
>>> > paradigms, inter alia; the Assimil Sermo courses are taught by a more
>>> > natural method, and work better for some students. The main focus of
>>> > Grammatica is learning to read Latin (though we do more than that), and
>>> that
>>> > of Sermo is learning to write and speak in Latin, though obviously reading
>>> > is not neglected. I strongly encourage everyone to make the effort to
>>> learn
>>> > the language of the Romans, which, although having a grammar complex by
>>>the
>>> > standards of English, has a small vocabulary as languages go, and that
>>> > grammar is quite regular. Quite honestly, if more of you do not enter our
>>> > classes and complete them, we shall stop offering them, or reduce their
>>> > frequency. I have moved all completing students who wished to continue
>>> into
>>> > the intermediate courses, but every year fewer and fewer students want to
>>> > take Grammatica I, and this year we have very few in the Combined class
>>>and
>>> > in Sermo I. The Sermo classes are unique in the world, and everyone
>>>should
>>> > take advantage of them while we can still offer them. A basic knowledge
>>>of
>>> > Latin is helpful, but not essential. The pace is brisk, but the textbook
>>> > lessons are short, with grammar addressed only every seventh lesson.
>>> Please
>>> > consider taking these courses; there may still be time to obtain the
>>> > Desessard text.
>>> >
>>> > Valete.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Scholastica's grammatica class still has room; I'd sign up without delay.
Castor that was funny!
vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cato" <catoinnyc@...> wrote:
>
> Cato Piscino sal.
>
> You persist in using an incorrect form, Piscinus.
>
> While consistency is a generally admirable trait, a determined choice to remain in error is not simply foolish but in this instance detrimental to the public face of the Respublica.
>
> The month is "Septembris", NOT "Septembras", and the proper declension is "Septembris".
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@> wrote:
> >
>
> > Hodie est ante diem XVII Kalendas Septembras; haec dies comitialis est:
>

oops, gratias, lol..bildungsroman too but there are longer words.
vale
Maior

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@...> wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> "Deutsch" and "Weltanschauung".
>
> Vale,
>
> GG
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > M.Hortensia Major A. Tulliae Scholasticae spd;
> > Deutche isn't so easy, what with those quirky separable prefixes, and long long word; can you say weltanschung;-)
> >
> > Catalani non sunt hispanice loquentes (istas odere); ergo nonne latinam linguam discent?
> > valeas
> > Maior
> >
> > -
> > > >
> > > > ATS: Yahoo doesn¹t want us to use those short Anglo-Saxon words
> > > > here...and REAL Anglo-Saxon was equipped with the full armory of the Germanic
> > > > languages: der Wörter, ein Wörter, irregular declensions, the whole schmear.
> > > > My guess is that a lot of the words were anything BUT short. German ones
> > > > certainly can grow quite nicely.
> > > >
> > > > I treasured the day Avitus critiqued my protasis; I thought: 'I've never
> > > > received such an erudite insult in my life!'
> > > >
> > > > ATS: LOL! With him you will definitely get erudite...and multi-lingual!
> > > > Cras Barcinonem discedet, ergo parum audiemus.
> > > >
> > > > Vivat Latinitas
> > > >
> > > > ATS: Rectissimé!
> > > >
> > > > M. Hortensia maior
> > > >
> > > > Valete!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please find below a multilingual protreptic for Latin
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Multilingual protreptic"?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sweet Merciful Bloodstained Gods, woman. No wonder you're scaring off
> > > >> > the potential students.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Vedius, the plain-spoken
> > > >> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Dexter Catoni s.p.d.,

> The correctly-declined name of the month is "Septembris", not "Septembras";

Here you have the choice between Septembris (Genitive case, with mensis understood) or Septembres (accusative case as adjective of Kalendas, also in the accusative).
The most classical is to use the accusative:
Kalendas Martias, Kalendas Septembres... but "Septembras" is not correct.

when it is just the day, you must use the ablative:
Kalendis Septembribus, Kalendis Martiis... it is the same with Idus and Nonas.

> you make this same mistake with the name of practically every month. And today is a dies fastus, not comitialis:
> Hodiernus dies est ante diem XVIII Kalendas Septembris; haec dies fastus est.

No *haec* but *hic*. Hic dies fastus est or Haec dies fasta est.

Indeed "dies" is both feminine and masculine. But hic is masculine as fastus and haec is feminine as festa.

Feminine in the famous Mozart Requiem:
Dies irae, dies *illa*
Masculine, in the calendar:
Dies *Fastus*, dies *Nefastus*...

Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. XVII Kalendas Septembres P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

Cato Dextero sal.

Then it is also "hic dies comitialis est"?

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> Dexter Catoni s.p.d.,
>
> > The correctly-declined name of the month is "Septembris", not "Septembras";
>
> Here you have the choice between Septembris (Genitive case, with mensis understood) or Septembres (accusative case as adjective of Kalendas, also in the accusative).
> The most classical is to use the accusative:
> Kalendas Martias, Kalendas Septembres... but "Septembras" is not correct.
>
> when it is just the day, you must use the ablative:
> Kalendis Septembribus, Kalendis Martiis... it is the same with Idus and Nonas.
>
> > you make this same mistake with the name of practically every month. And today is a dies fastus, not comitialis:
> > Hodiernus dies est ante diem XVIII Kalendas Septembris; haec dies fastus est.
>
> No *haec* but *hic*. Hic dies fastus est or Haec dies fasta est.
>
> Indeed "dies" is both feminine and masculine. But hic is masculine as fastus and haec is feminine as festa.
>
> Feminine in the famous Mozart Requiem:
> Dies irae, dies *illa*
> Masculine, in the calendar:
> Dies *Fastus*, dies *Nefastus*...
>
> Optime vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> a. d. XVII Kalendas Septembres P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>

Dexter Catoni s.p.d.,

> Then it is also "hic dies comitialis est"?

Here you can have both:

Hic dies comitialis est
Haec dies comitialis est.

Because comitialis is an adjective of the 3rd declension and has the same forms in masculine and feminine gender, only the neuter is different.
Comitialis (masculine and feminine), comitiale (neuter).

Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. XVII Kalendas Septembres P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

Salve, amici!

At last, I have some photos from my wedding on 7/30. Everything was done with a Roman touch. It was a modernization of a conferatio ritual. I consecrated the altar beforehand and we had most of the required religious personnel, althoug it was nothing compared to what our Pontifix Maximus has done. I did my best. I had to rectify my own faith in the Religio Romana so as not to insult my Christian relatives. I made sure to make my sacrifices and prayers on my own though, so I was happy.

Here are some photos that my friends took at the wedding...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=100001362391300&v=photos

We had a great time. I love my Brutus!

L. Antonia Auriga

P. Corva Gaudialis A. Tulliae Scholasticae sal.

Salve!

How do I register for this? Is it offered through the Academia Thules?

Paulla

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@...> wrote:
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
> voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
> particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th,

(snipped)

Caeca Gaudialis (um?) sal,

wonderful! See you in class!

Vale quam optime,
Caeca

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Salve Antonia!

Congratulations!

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "fauxrari" <drivergirl@...> wrote:
>
> Salve, amici!
>
> At last, I have some photos from my wedding on 7/30. Everything was done with a Roman touch. It was a modernization of a conferatio ritual. I consecrated the altar beforehand and we had most of the required religious personnel, althoug it was nothing compared to what our Pontifix Maximus has done. I did my best. I had to rectify my own faith in the Religio Romana so as not to insult my Christian relatives. I made sure to make my sacrifices and prayers on my own though, so I was happy.
>
> Here are some photos that my friends took at the wedding...
>
> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=100001362391300&v=photos
>
> We had a great time. I love my Brutus!
>
> L. Antonia Auriga
>

Salve Corvus Amice,

I also just looked at the newest photos added today! They are magnificent.
May i have your permission to share them at the next meeting at Aedes Venus Genetrix here in Nashville? They are so informative in addition to being so beautiful!
Thank for this gift and congratulations!

Cura ut valeas,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "mcorvvs" <mcorvvs@...> wrote:
>
> From Kal. Sex. till a.d. VII Id. Sex. (August 1 - 7th) Second Novaroman
> Sarmatian provincial festival FERIAE SARMATIAE was held in
> Poltava.Program was:- Kal. Sex. - Immolatio;- a.d. IV Non. Sex. -
> Sacrifice at the Holy Oaks (Dykanka, 25 km from Poltava);- pr. Non. Sex.
> - Wedding ceremony by confarreatio for three couples conducted by
> Pontifex Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and Sacerdos Iovis M. Octavius Corvus.-
> a.d. VII Id. Sex. - Rite of VOTVM SARMATARVM. See the full text below.
> - Rite of Consecration Augur M. Lucretius Agricola performed by Pontifex
> Cn. Cornelius Lentulus. - Rite of consecrating the
> Templum for building the Aedes of Iuppiter, performed by Pontifex Cn.
> Cornelius Lentulus, Augur M. Lucretius Agricola and Sacerdos Iovis M.
> Octavius Corvus.
> FULL TEXT OF SARMATIAN VOTUM
> Here, at the Altar of Iuppiter Perunus in Poltava, in the province
> ofSarmatia of Nova Roma, I, M.Octavius Corvus, I, T. Iunius Brutus, I,
> Ap. Furius Lupus, do give this Votum and swear to fulfilthe following:
> Hic apud aram Iovis Peruni Poltavae in provincia Sarmatia Nova Romana,
> ego, M.Octavius Corvus, ego, T. Iunius Brutus, ego, Ap. Furius Lupus,
> hoc votum facio et in haec verba iuro me facturum:
> - by the end of the first 9 years, starting from this day, to have
> notless than 3 oppida in Sarmatia, 10 families living in one
> neighborhood and small Temple of IuppiterPerunus(6x12 meters) built;
> - uti primis IX annis exactis hocce die inceptis oppida non minus quam
> III in Sarmatia condantur, X familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedesque
> parva Iovis Peruni non minor VI XII metris construatur;
> - by the end of the second 9 years, to have not less than 5 oppida,50
> families living in one neighborhood and small Temple of
> IuppiterPerunus(6x12 meters) plus altars of Mars, Quirinus, Iuno and
> Minerva built;
> - uti alteris IX annis exactis oppida non minus quam V condantur, L
> familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedes parva Iovis Peruni non minor VI
> XII metris, arae Marti, Quirino, Iunoni, Minervae construantur;
> - by the end of the third 9 years, to have not less than 15 oppida,500
> families living in one neighborhood and the Temple of Iuppiter Perunusof
> size not less than original Temple of Iuppiter Capitolinus in Ancient
> Rome.
> - uti tertiis IX annis exactis oppida non minus quam XV condantur, D
> familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedes Iovis Peruni non minor templo Iovis
> Capitolini Romae antiquo.
> For this I ask Immortal Gods, and Iuppiter Optimus Maximus in the
> firstplace, to grant me Their blessings and all the necessary will,
> wisdom and strenght.
> Harum rerum ergo Deos Immortales in primis Iovem Optimum Maximum precor,
> uti sint mihi volentes propitii et voluntatem, sapientiam, fortitudinem
> necessariam mihi tribuant.
> By this Votum I do swear that I will never break this oath and I
> willnever let to do this to anyone and all who are now taking this same
> oath with me.
> Hoc voto ius iurandum do me numquam hoc votum neglecturum, neminique
> eorum qui in eadem verba mecum iuraverunt aut aliorum concessurum, ut
> hoc neglegat.
> If I should ever fail to fulfil this Votum I shall consecrate to the
> Godsof the Underworld my immortal soul and fortune of my kin up to the
> seventh generation to come.
> Si sciens fefellero votumque solvere non potuero, animam meam immortalem
> ac fortunam familiae meae usque ad generationem septimam Inferis
> consecrabo.
> In this I, M.Octavius Corvus, I, T. Iunius Brutus, I, Ap. Furius Lupus,
> do swear.
> In haec verba ego, M.Octavius Corvus, ego, T. Iunius Brutus, ego, Ap.
> Furius Lupus ius iurandum do.
> *****
> Photos from FERAE SARMATIAE can be found here:
> http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII#
> <http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII#>
> Special thanks for Tiberius Claudius Drusus and his Bulgarian coleagues
> for his significant help in preparing the wedding ritual.
> NOTICE: All three wedding conducted in Sarmatia by confarreatio ritual,
> rites of consecration and making an Oath were REAL RITES and not any
> kind of reenactment events.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica P. Corvae Gaudiali quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque
> bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> P. Corva Gaudialis A. Tulliae Scholasticae sal.
>
> Salve!
>
> How do I register for this?
>
> ATS: I will provide the information when you inform me that you have the
> textbook, and verify that with me. I have to check to make sure that the
> student actually has the text, for the homework is found only there.
>
>
> Is it offered through the Academia Thules?
>
> ATS: No, unfortunately the Academia Thules no longer exists. Their
> course server died in early November of 2008, and it has not been repaired or
> replaced.
>
> Paulla
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> , "A.
> Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
>> > voluntatis S.P.D.
>> >
>> > Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
>> > particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th,
>
> (snipped)
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Aquilae,

sure you can! This is what it was actually made for! :) It will especially be pleasant for me since your meeting will be in Nashville, the city of Parthenon!
And many thanks for congratulations!

Optime vale,

CORVVS

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Corvus Amice,
>
> I also just looked at the newest photos added today! They are magnificent.
> May i have your permission to share them at the next meeting at Aedes Venus Genetrix here in Nashville? They are so informative in addition to being so beautiful!
> Thank for this gift and congratulations!
>
> Cura ut valeas,
>
> Julia
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "mcorvvs" <mcorvvs@> wrote:
> >
> > From Kal. Sex. till a.d. VII Id. Sex. (August 1 - 7th) Second Novaroman
> > Sarmatian provincial festival FERIAE SARMATIAE was held in
> > Poltava.Program was:- Kal. Sex. - Immolatio;- a.d. IV Non. Sex. -
> > Sacrifice at the Holy Oaks (Dykanka, 25 km from Poltava);- pr. Non. Sex.
> > - Wedding ceremony by confarreatio for three couples conducted by
> > Pontifex Cn. Cornelius Lentulus and Sacerdos Iovis M. Octavius Corvus.-
> > a.d. VII Id. Sex. - Rite of VOTVM SARMATARVM. See the full text below.
> > - Rite of Consecration Augur M. Lucretius Agricola performed by Pontifex
> > Cn. Cornelius Lentulus. - Rite of consecrating the
> > Templum for building the Aedes of Iuppiter, performed by Pontifex Cn.
> > Cornelius Lentulus, Augur M. Lucretius Agricola and Sacerdos Iovis M.
> > Octavius Corvus.
> > FULL TEXT OF SARMATIAN VOTUM
> > Here, at the Altar of Iuppiter Perunus in Poltava, in the province
> > ofSarmatia of Nova Roma, I, M.Octavius Corvus, I, T. Iunius Brutus, I,
> > Ap. Furius Lupus, do give this Votum and swear to fulfilthe following:
> > Hic apud aram Iovis Peruni Poltavae in provincia Sarmatia Nova Romana,
> > ego, M.Octavius Corvus, ego, T. Iunius Brutus, ego, Ap. Furius Lupus,
> > hoc votum facio et in haec verba iuro me facturum:
> > - by the end of the first 9 years, starting from this day, to have
> > notless than 3 oppida in Sarmatia, 10 families living in one
> > neighborhood and small Temple of IuppiterPerunus(6x12 meters) built;
> > - uti primis IX annis exactis hocce die inceptis oppida non minus quam
> > III in Sarmatia condantur, X familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedesque
> > parva Iovis Peruni non minor VI XII metris construatur;
> > - by the end of the second 9 years, to have not less than 5 oppida,50
> > families living in one neighborhood and small Temple of
> > IuppiterPerunus(6x12 meters) plus altars of Mars, Quirinus, Iuno and
> > Minerva built;
> > - uti alteris IX annis exactis oppida non minus quam V condantur, L
> > familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedes parva Iovis Peruni non minor VI
> > XII metris, arae Marti, Quirino, Iunoni, Minervae construantur;
> > - by the end of the third 9 years, to have not less than 15 oppida,500
> > families living in one neighborhood and the Temple of Iuppiter Perunusof
> > size not less than original Temple of Iuppiter Capitolinus in Ancient
> > Rome.
> > - uti tertiis IX annis exactis oppida non minus quam XV condantur, D
> > familiae in vicinitate vivant, aedes Iovis Peruni non minor templo Iovis
> > Capitolini Romae antiquo.
> > For this I ask Immortal Gods, and Iuppiter Optimus Maximus in the
> > firstplace, to grant me Their blessings and all the necessary will,
> > wisdom and strenght.
> > Harum rerum ergo Deos Immortales in primis Iovem Optimum Maximum precor,
> > uti sint mihi volentes propitii et voluntatem, sapientiam, fortitudinem
> > necessariam mihi tribuant.
> > By this Votum I do swear that I will never break this oath and I
> > willnever let to do this to anyone and all who are now taking this same
> > oath with me.
> > Hoc voto ius iurandum do me numquam hoc votum neglecturum, neminique
> > eorum qui in eadem verba mecum iuraverunt aut aliorum concessurum, ut
> > hoc neglegat.
> > If I should ever fail to fulfil this Votum I shall consecrate to the
> > Godsof the Underworld my immortal soul and fortune of my kin up to the
> > seventh generation to come.
> > Si sciens fefellero votumque solvere non potuero, animam meam immortalem
> > ac fortunam familiae meae usque ad generationem septimam Inferis
> > consecrabo.
> > In this I, M.Octavius Corvus, I, T. Iunius Brutus, I, Ap. Furius Lupus,
> > do swear.
> > In haec verba ego, M.Octavius Corvus, ego, T. Iunius Brutus, ego, Ap.
> > Furius Lupus ius iurandum do.
> > *****
> > Photos from FERAE SARMATIAE can be found here:
> > http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII#
> > <http://picasaweb.google.ru/m.octavius.corvus/FERIAEPROVSARMATIAEII#>
> > Special thanks for Tiberius Claudius Drusus and his Bulgarian coleagues
> > for his significant help in preparing the wedding ritual.
> > NOTICE: All three wedding conducted in Sarmatia by confarreatio ritual,
> > rites of consecration and making an Oath were REAL RITES and not any
> > kind of reenactment events.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem XVI Kalendas Septembris; hic dies nefastus publicus est.

"Portunalia dicta a Portuno, cui eo die aedes in portu Tiberino facta
et feriae institutae." - Varro, de Lingua Latina VI

Today is the ceebration of the Portunalia, in honor of the god
Portunes. Portunes (alternatively spelled Portumnes or Portunus) was
a god of keys and doors and livestock. He protected the warehouses
where grain was stored. Probably because of folk associations between
porta "gate, door" and portus "harbor", the "gateway" to the sea,
Portunus later became conflated with Palaemon and evolved into a god
primarily of ports and harbors. In the Latin adjective importunus his
name was applied to untimely waves and weather and contrary winds, and
the Latin echoes in English opportune and its old-fashioned antonym
importune, meaning "well-timed' and "badly-timed". Hence Portunus is
behind both an opportunity and importunate or badly-timed solicitations

The temple of Portunis was built at the port on the Tiber; this small
temple on the banks of the Tiber was dedicated to the Roman god of
rivers and seaports, Portunus. Originally this deity protected doors
("portus") but when the meaning of the word changed to harbor, his
guardian function also changed. It was built of tufa and travertine
blocks which had been originally been coated with a fine layer of
stucco. It is in a good state of preservation because it was converted
to a Christian church in the 9th century AD. Some sources also refer
to this as a Tiberinalia, or festival of the Tiber river, as Portunis
is the god of the Tiber. Portunis is also known as the god of keys, or
the opening of locked gates, while as Ianus he was the god of doors.
On this day old keys were burned in the hearth as a sacrificial offering.


"PORTUNUS: the protecting genius of harbours among the Romans. He was invoked to grant a happy return from a voyage. Hence a temple was erected to him at the port of the Tiber, from whence the road descended to the port of Ostia. At his temple an annual festival, the Portunalia, was celebrated on the 17th of August. (Varro, De Ling. Lat. vi. 19 ; Arnob. iii. 23; Cic. de Nat. Deor. ii. 26; Virg. Aen. v. 241.) He was represented with a key in his hand, portus as well as porta signifying a place which can be closed. At the time when the Romans became familiar with Greek mythology, Portunus was identified with the Greek Palaemon (Festus, s. v. Portunus, p. 242, ed. Muller)." - http://www.mythindex.com/roman-mythology/P/Portunus.html

Valete bene!

Cato

M. Moravius Piscinus Pontifex Maximus, Quiritibus, cultoribus Deorum et omnibus salute plurimam dicit: Portunus felicitatem in nos impertiat

Hodie est ante diem XVI Kalendas Septembras; haec dies nefastus publica est:

"A lucky day to set the vine in the earth, and tame the steer, and fix lashes to the warp." ~ P. Vergilius Maro, Georgic 1.284-85


PORTUNALIA

"The Portunalia was named from Portunus, to whom, on this day, a temple was built at the port on the Tiber and a holiday instituted." ~ M. Terrentius Varro, Lingua Latinae 6.19

The Temple of Portunus, and His festival, were near the Pons Aemilius. It isn't clear where along the River Tiber this bridge was located. Mommsen pointed out that portus is never used to mean fishing wharfs along a riverbank, and thus assumes that the Pons Aemilius and the Temple of Portunus may have been at Ostia and that the festival included a procession from Rome to that temple site. Possibly, but then this would have been a later development. The fact that Portunus had a flamen points to an earlier introduction of the festival.

In the rather late version of the fasti, that of Philocalus, the Portunalia is instead called Tibernalia. Mommsen then assumed that Portunus was in fact Tiberus. However, an earlier name for the Tiber was Volturnus, who had His own flamen Volturnalis, and His own festival in August. There is, too, a scholia that suggests that the Portunalia included a rite whereby people tossed the keys to their houses into a fire, thus purifying them. This may point to an early Portunus who had nothing to do with ports and rivers but everything to do with the city gates. And in fact Verrius said that the image of Portunus carried a key in His hand to represent that He is the God of doors and gateways. Another indication of a possible connection between Portunus and Janus was that at some time in August the flamen Portunalis performed a rite whereby he anointed the spears of Quirinus with oil. This would appear to have been a rite of purification of a Roman legion as it returned from campaign. An army had to be purified before its soldiers were permitted to enter the City gates. In other words, although little is really known about Him what is known possibly points to Portunus having been a form of Janus. In particular, Portunus guarded the doors of grain wharehouses that were down by the river, warehouses that were especially important to the plebeians who supplied Portunus with His flamen. So we have, or seem to have, Portunus associated with ports, city gates, warehouse doors, and the keys of private homes and farms.

On this date, too, C. Duillius dedicated a Temple of Janus in the Theatrum Marcellum during the First Punic War (260 BCE). Later Emperor Tiberius rebuilt the temple and dedicated it on 18 Oct. This again possibly points to a connection between Janus and Portunus. With Janus there is a dichotomy between the God Who opens the day and Who is the Opener of the Way to the Gods, and Who opens the New Year, and then with the other Janus, His lesser form, Who was associated with the front door of houses and with city gates. Could, therefore, Portunus have been conflated with this lesser Janus? Was it then only the poets who drew this connection, as the sacerdotes and the plebeian culti Deorum maintained a separate cultus for Portunus?


Today we make offerings to Portunus to safeguard our houses, and toss our house keys into the flame to purify them so that they may better serve Portunus.


Janus

"Why do they suppose Janus to have borne two faces and so represent Him in painting and sculpture? Is it because, as they relate, He was by birth a Greek from Perrhaebia, and, when He had crossed to Italy and had settled among the savages there, He changed both His speech and His habits? Or is it rather because He changed the people of Italy to another manner and form of life by persuading a people which had formerly made use of wild plants and lawless customs to till the soil and to live under organized government?" ~ Plutarch, Roman Questions 22:


Ex Libri Pontifici

"Spurcum, is wine that it is not permitted to bring to sacrifices, according to Antistius Labeo in liber X of his Commentarii de iure pontificio, because it is mixed with water, or it is not yet new wine boiled down over a low flame, or else the must of the grape not yet cooled from fermentation." ~ GRF M. Antistius Labeo 2 [15]; Fest. s. v. spurcum


Today's thought comes from Lucius Annaeus Seneca, De Consolatione ad Helviam 10.6

"Why do you pile riches on riches? You really should remember how small your bodies are! Is it not madness and the wildest lunacy to desire so much when you can hold so little?"

Forgive my interuption, The text book in question Wheellock, is in stock at
Amazon.
C. Pomepius Marcellus


On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:55:39 -0400
"A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...> wrote:

>>
>>
>> A. Tullia Scholastica P. Corvae Gaudiali quiritibus, sociis, peregrinisque
>> bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>>
>>
>> P. Corva Gaudialis A. Tulliae Scholasticae sal.
>>
>> Salve!
>>
>> How do I register for this?
>>
>> ATS: I will provide the information when you inform me that you have
>>the
>> textbook, and verify that with me. I have to check to make sure that the
>> student actually has the text, for the homework is found only there.
>>
>>
>> Is it offered through the Academia Thules?
>>
>> ATS: No, unfortunately the Academia Thules no longer exists. Their
>> course server died in early November of 2008, and it has not been repaired
>>or
>> replaced.
>>
>> Paulla
>>
>> Vale, et valete.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> , "A.
>> Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus tironibus sociis peregrinisque bonae
>>> > voluntatis S.P.D.
>>> >
>>> > Time is getting short to register for our Grammatica Latina classes in
>>> > particular, for Grammatica I will begin on Monday, September 6th,
>>
>> (snipped)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Avete,

Today I made offerings to Portunus, ( incense and good French wine ) and I tossed my keys through the fire to purify them.

This is the text of the ritual that I made today to Portunus:

----------------------------------------------------------

"Portu/nalia/ sunt :// lin/guis ani/misque fa/uete !"

PRAEFATIO -

Iane pater, te hoc ture commovendo
bonas preces precor
uti sies volens propitius
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae!

Portune claviger,
portuum praeses, portarum tutor,
te hac clave igne pianda,
bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitius
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae!

PRECATIO -

Portune pater,
portuum praeses, portarum tutor,
te precor, oro et obtestor
uti Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium
miseriis, discordiis, odiis liberes,
uti salutem Rei Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium
confirmes, augeas, adiuves.

SACRIFICIUM -

Portune pater,
o Matris Matutae fili,
clavium custos, portarum praeses, portuum tutor,
uti te vino ommovendo bonas preces precatus sum,
quoius rei ergo macte vino inferio esto!

PIACULUM -

Iane, Portune, Vesta,
Lares, Manes, Penates,
Omnes Di Inmortales quocumque nomine:
si quidquam vobis in his sacris displicuit,
hoc vino libando
veniam peto
et vitium meum expio.

Valete.

--
C. Petronius Dexter
Flamen Portunalis Portunalia egit
a.d. XVI Kal. Sept. P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve Corvus!

Gratias, gratias, gratias!
I am also going to present them at the North American Conventus as well -

I really enjoyed the photos of your sons mixing up their togas, they are such handsome young gentleman!

Vale bene,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "mcorvvs" <mcorvvs@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Aquilae,
>
> sure you can! This is what it was actually made for! :) It will especially be pleasant for me since your meeting will be in Nashville, the city of Parthenon!
> And many thanks for congratulations!
>
> Optime vale,
>
> CORVVS
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve Corvus Amice,
> >
> > I also just looked at the newest photos added today! They are magnificent.
> > May i have your permission to share them at the next meeting at Aedes Venus Genetrix here in Nashville? They are so informative in addition to being so beautiful!
> > Thank for this gift and congratulations!
> >
> > Cura ut valeas,
> >
> > Julia
> >

Salve Petroni!

I have been waiting for you to post this ceremony!
It is magnificent as your rituals always are!

Gratias tibi!

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gaius Petronius Dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> Avete,
>
> Today I made offerings to Portunus, ( incense and good French wine ) and I tossed my keys through the fire to purify them.
>
> This is the text of the ritual that I made today to Portunus:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Portu/nalia/ sunt :// lin/guis ani/misque fa/uete !"
>
> PRAEFATIO -
>
> Iane pater, te hoc ture commovendo
> bonas preces precor
> uti sies volens propitius
> Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
> Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
> mihi, domo, familiae!
>
> Portune claviger,
> portuum praeses, portarum tutor,
> te hac clave igne pianda,
> bonas preces precor,
> uti sies volens propitius
> Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
> Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
> mihi, domo, familiae!
>
> PRECATIO -
>
> Portune pater,
> portuum praeses, portarum tutor,
> te precor, oro et obtestor
> uti Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium
> miseriis, discordiis, odiis liberes,
> uti salutem Rei Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium
> confirmes, augeas, adiuves.
>
> SACRIFICIUM -
>
> Portune pater,
> o Matris Matutae fili,
> clavium custos, portarum praeses, portuum tutor,
> uti te vino ommovendo bonas preces precatus sum,
> quoius rei ergo macte vino inferio esto!
>
> PIACULUM -
>
> Iane, Portune, Vesta,
> Lares, Manes, Penates,
> Omnes Di Inmortales quocumque nomine:
> si quidquam vobis in his sacris displicuit,
> hoc vino libando
> veniam peto
> et vitium meum expio.
>
> Valete.
>
> --
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Flamen Portunalis Portunalia egit
> a.d. XVI Kal. Sept. P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>