Salve,

> B. Marcus Antonius Gryllus Graecus shall serve as the Pontifex
> Maximus, pro tempore, beginning Id. Sep. MMDCCLXIII auc, and lasting
> until a decretum is issued detailing the duties of a pontifex maximus
> or through pr. Id. Mar. MDCCLXIV auc, whichever is sooner."

An unexpected, and very welcome development.

Pontifex Graecus, I urge you to accept.

Whatever you think of Piscinus as a man, there is no question but that he is
very controversial; he has fractured the citizens, the Collegium Pontificum, the
Comitia Curiata.

There are those who think him a squatter, an usurper, a traitor, despised by the
gods for the way he cast out our Founders. And there those who gaze upon him
with adoration, as their saviour, and the one who smote their enemies.

Everything that he says or does is interpreted in light of his personal honour
or lack thereof. Everything he writes is viewed through whatever lens has been
shaped by our past experiences with this polarizing individual.

Even laying aside the events by which he seized power two years ago, consider
the events of the past month, in which he bullied and threatened a Lictor who
had the courage to disobey an illegal order (and who was later proven *correct*
in his refusal, when the candidate for Dictator consulted a *real* attorney).

If Piscinus remains as Pontifex Maximus, the credibility of the Collegium is
tied to his own.

Pontifex Graecus, you are - as far as I know - universally admired as a diligent
scholar who stays out of the political mire. You would restore *dignity* to an
office that has been sadly lacking in it these past two years. Were you to take
the office of Pontifex Maximus, your words and actions and decrees would be
judged by your own merits, not by the taint of past wickedness.

The Collegium Pontificum, battered and bruised, needs a leader who will lead it
forward, not lead it deeper into the swamp.

Pontifex Maximus Graecus, please stand and accept.

Vale, M. Octavius,
Consular, ex-citizen.

C. Petronius Minuciae Marcellae s.p.d.,

> Another few questions I have about a possible dissolution and/or separation:

I think this bad solution (dissolution) never will happen. We have to search for all which gather us together than divide us.

Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Kalendis Septembribus P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.

I did not say it was absolutely 100% caused by the Gods, I said it might be.
And apparently no one will listen to what the Gods have to say or was this
thread not made for the lack of auguries.
And for the record, I am chill, you should see me when I get mad.
DTIC
Nero



________________________________
From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:59:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices


Salve Nero

I think the satire in my friend's Sulla's post was more directed at Piscinus
than anyone else, because he found it absurd that anyone would make that
statement having minimal information about the facts. Remember in ancient times
everyone and their aunt was always seeing portents - or so they thought - but
simply seeing one wasn't enough. It had to be investigated, researched,
confirmed and discussed. The FACTS were examined. In this case someone would
have arrived to investigate the role the washing machine and the pillow case
played.

Now, I can assure you that to the best of my knowledge the Collegium Pontificum
has not met to discuss Sulla's flood and the relationship, if any, his pillow
case played in it, or why his washing machine clogged. Therefore the possible
disfavour by the Gods is not an official opinion ventured by the PM on behalf of
the collegium but instead obviously just a satirical dig at Sulla. I thought
Sulla turned it around rather adeptly with his very Roman risposte about good
fortune from adversity.


As for the comment on his operation since Sulla prays to a different deity that
is a matter for Sulla to investigate if he so wishes with the appropriate Judaic
religious authorities. I highly doubt our Gods would have punished Sulla by
clogging his washing machine. The least one could have expected was something
dire and awe invoking. A piddly flood caused by a pillow hardly seems up to the
might of IOM for example. Let us retain some vestige of common sense here. As
for his operation, well no doubt much to the dismay of many he is still with us.


Not every act, action etc is the work of the Gods and to even claim that
requires painstaking research and validation. I see none here surrounding the
PM's claim. It could be blasphemy for you to claim blasphemy, for aren't you
taking onto yourself the right to speak for the Gods of the res publica?

If you are going to survive Nova Roma with any degree of sanity left you need to
go and order a large bottle of chill pills and consume them at a large dosage
rate before reading this forum.

Vale bene
Cn. Iulius Caesar

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:

From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:24 PM

I have no problem with christians my problem lies in christianity which I admit
is a flaw in me.
I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society which our forefathers
built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it was destroyed so much
art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith. Millions were and are
killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand because of a faith. Also
some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter ten feet from a
church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips I would get little
flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it got so bad.
I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not proud of it, but I was
not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was raised and what I
have been exposed to.
Nero.
As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as hate speech I know
christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.

________________________________
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices

LOL

Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a start!

Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you have no thought about it,
perhaps?

I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much as we mortals do,
at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin Williams said, just look at
the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.

And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am allied to - cultor or
non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I have been Consular twice
and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the Religio - my problem are
with various individuals. Not the Religio. That is the difference. Just
like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still be a Church
going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this as she would
attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).

And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. Because your posts do
tend to come off that you have serious issues with Christianity in general
and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed to Christians. I
have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own experiences.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:

>
>
> Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I just almost died
> laughing
> right now.
> It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> I am friends with many christians and at least in my circle of friends, we
> go
> out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz here people), but if
> I ask
> them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because and I quote "I can't
> stay
> out too late, I have church in the morning."
> And the main point of my last post is that they could do what they wanted,
> they
> are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound by our laws. You are
>
> which is the whole point of this whole list of posts. If you were not
> sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died many many years ago then
> I
> wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you that they are
> important
> to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes about your god then I
> will
> allow jokes about mine.
> Nero
>
> P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up people for trial
> without my
> acknowledgment.
> And as a matter of record I don't have problems with monotheists unless
> they
> want to start something first.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> >
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
> So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy but by the end of
> your
> post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you do not know the
> relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then that leaves open that
> by your own rationale the ancient writers like Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> others are blasphemous, right?
>
> Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I am not - that makes it
> ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I am going with this?
>
> You have defeated your own argument.
>
> Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate speech.
>
> Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be it. But you do not
> make your example any better by bringing that up.
>
> And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am Jewish.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
><rikudemyx@...<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Salve,
> > No they were not, they were paid for that job, and also went home at the
> > end of
> > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > Just like the christians who go out and bomb abortion clinics and spout
> > hate and
> > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and poof just like magic
> the
> > sin
> > is gone.
> > I do not know what relationship the ancients had with their Gods but I'm
> > sure
> > that the satires and comedians had their reasons.
> > That and they were actually funny unlike some people......
> > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that when I show you the
> > constitution
> > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> >
> > Nero
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that all those ancient Roman
> > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms of comedic writings that
> > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer the question. Don't avoid
> > not answering it.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> ><rikudemyx@... <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > They are dead and gone and were not under our laws.
> > >
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine
> <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> 40gmail.com>
> > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > And, are you implying that all those ancient Roman Writers who used
> > Satire,
> > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing that involved the Gods are
> also
> > > blasphemous?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> > > robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
>
> > 40gmail.com>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And where does it say that in the Constitution?
> > > >
> > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies without knowing the full story of
> > what
> > > is
> > > > involved giving a false impression - should that not be countered?
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Sulla
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@... <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Any action that may have been ira deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > taken
> > > >>
> > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > >> Joking about the Gods shows disrespect for the Gods.
> > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Nero
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > ><robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >> >
> > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09 PM
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > >>
> > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > >>
> > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous and why?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > >><rikudemyx@... <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in violation of the constitution.
> > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > >> > DTIC
> > > >> > Nero
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ________________________________
> > > >> >
> > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > ><robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > >> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > >
> > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:09:48 PM
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to respond to just this part.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > That means that the insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > the
> > > >> Virgo
> > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of the Constitution. And so were his
> remarks
> > > >> about
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > to
> > > >> him
> > > >> > when
> > > >> > > his operation went bad and his house flooded
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > Oh really?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I believe my house flooded because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > machine
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > the Washing machine ate it up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > back
> > > >> up
> > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Let us not forget the rationale world Ok?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And, if by some remote chance the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > kind
> > > >> of
> > > >> > luck again, because I got enough money from the insurance
> settlement
> > > >> that I
> > > >> > was able to redo my Master Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > at
> > > >> all
> > > >> > by
> > > >> > the minor flood that happened.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I can use some more of that bonus anytime!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Vale,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sulla
> > > >> >
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> > > >> >
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> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Yes I'll hang with the ones who call my Gods monstrous delusions of the past and
my orientation an abomination...
Nero



________________________________
From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 4:31:13 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices


Cato Iunio Neroni sal.

If you want to experience a whole different Christian mentality, I would suggest
that you try hanging out with Anglicans or Eastern Orthodox :) It's a whole
different mindset.

NOTE TO PRAETURA: this is NOT proselytization.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:
>
> I have no problem with christians my problem lies in christianity which I admit
>
> is a flaw in me.
> I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society which our forefathers
> built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it was destroyed so much

> art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith. Millions were and are
>
> killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand because of a faith. Also

> some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter ten feet from a
> church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips I would get little

> flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it got so bad.
> I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not proud of it, but I was
>
> not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was raised and what I
> have been exposed to.
> Nero.
> As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as hate speech I know

> christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
> LOL
>
> Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a start!
>
> Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you have no thought about it,
> perhaps?
>
> I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much as we mortals do,
> at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin Williams said, just look at
> the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
>
> And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am allied to - cultor or
> non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I have been Consular twice
> and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the Religio - my problem are
> with various individuals. Not the Religio. That is the difference. Just
> like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still be a Church
> going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this as she would
> attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
>
> And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. Because your posts do
> tend to come off that you have serious issues with Christianity in general
> and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed to Christians. I
> have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own experiences.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I just almost died
> > laughing
> > right now.
> > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > I am friends with many christians and at least in my circle of friends, we
> > go
> > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz here people), but if
> > I ask
> > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because and I quote "I can't
> > stay
> > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > And the main point of my last post is that they could do what they wanted,
> > they
> > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound by our laws. You are
> >
> > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts. If you were not
> > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died many many years ago then
> > I
> > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you that they are
> > important
> > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes about your god then I
> > will
> > allow jokes about mine.
> > Nero
> >
> > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up people for trial
> > without my
> > acknowledgment.
> > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with monotheists unless
> > they
> > want to start something first.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy but by the end of
> > your
> > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you do not know the
> > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then that leaves open that
> > by your own rationale the ancient writers like Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > others are blasphemous, right?
> >
> > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I am not - that makes it
> > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I am going with this?
> >
> > You have defeated your own argument.
> >
> > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate speech.
> >
> > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be it. But you do not
> > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> >
> > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am Jewish.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> ><rikudemyx@...<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve,
> > > No they were not, they were paid for that job, and also went home at the
> > > end of
> > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb abortion clinics and spout
> > > hate and
> > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and poof just like magic
> > the
> > > sin
> > > is gone.
> > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had with their Gods but I'm
> > > sure
> > > that the satires and comedians had their reasons.
> > > That and they were actually funny unlike some people......
> > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that when I show you the
> > > constitution
> > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > >
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine
> <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that all those ancient Roman
> > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms of comedic writings that
> > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer the question. Don't avoid
> > > not answering it.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@... <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They are dead and gone and were not under our laws.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > >
> > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient Roman Writers who used
> > > Satire,
> > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing that involved the Gods are
> > also
> > > > blasphemous?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> > > > robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> >
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And where does it say that in the Constitution?
> > > > >
> > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies without knowing the full story of
> > > what
> > > > is
> > > > > involved giving a false impression - should that not be countered?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sulla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@... <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any action that may have been ira deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > > taken
> > > > >>
> > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Nero
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > ><robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
<Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09 PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous and why?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > >><rikudemyx@... <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in violation of the constitution.
> > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > >> > Nero
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@... <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > >> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > >
> > > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:09:48 PM
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to respond to just this part.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > That means that the insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > the
> > > > >> Virgo
> > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of the Constitution. And so were his
> > remarks
> > > > >> about
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > > to
> > > > >> him
> > > > >> > when
> > > > >> > > his operation went bad and his house flooded
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I believe my house flooded because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > machine
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > back
> > > > >> up
> > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Let us not forget the rationale world Ok?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > kind
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > luck again, because I got enough money from the insurance
> > settlement
> > > > >> that I
> > > > >> > was able to redo my Master Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > > at
> > > > >> all
> > > > >> > by
> > > > >> > the minor flood that happened.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I can use some more of that bonus anytime!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sulla
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Is this fair or reasonable?

"Graecus claims my posts are not being approved because I didn't put any latin greetings in them. Seriously.


when I pointed out that neither does sulla, he came back with that since I'm not a civ, and I'm on moderation, then I have to comply with the made up rule and sulla gets more leeway."
Anna Bucci


Ridiculous.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Octavius Gracchus" <octaviusgracchus@...> wrote:
>
> Salve,
>
> > M. HOrtensia Quiritibus spd;
>
> > I head from Anna today it seems she received 9 days! moderation for
> > being too logical with Graecus last night..
>
> > Considering the foul insults thrown at the Virgo Maxima by Cato and Sulla who
> > screamed at getting 3 days moderation, this sickens me.
>
> Annia is a non-citizen.
>
> I, too, am a non-citizen. I have been moderated ever since I returned to this
> list a month ago.
>
> (Which is fine by me; I don't expect the same rights that a citizen has).
>
> I, however, have never willingly defied the edict of the Praetors or their
> staff. I've used a few colourful idioms that they asked me to revise, which I
> willingly consented to. Never did I *disobey*, yet I remain moderated.
>
> In the interests of FAIRNESS, *all* non-citizens should be moderated.
>
> I am happy to remain moderated if the same standard is applied to others in my
> situation. But for me to be in a position inferior to that of Annia is absurd.
>
> Vale, M. Octavius.
>

A lot of things could be caused by the Gods, but I highly doubt that included on their agenda is causing Sulla's washing machine to get clogged with a pillowcase.

I think those of us who believe in the Gods would always listen to what they have to say, were it a genuine portent. What I am doing is listening to what you say the Gods might have said or done, and there is of course a stark difference between the two. One involves the Gods directly and the other involves you speculating what they might of have done to his washing machine.

I am sure that at some point in the not too distant future I will see evidence of you being truly mad. It is only a question of how long. It happens to many in here. I hope you rise above the average displays of madness and put forth a spectacular display of frothing, gnashing and convulsing. Life can be so tedious on here at times, with only Maior to entertain us.

Vale bene
Caesar

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:

> From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:26 PM
> I did not say it was absolutely 100%
> caused by the Gods, I said it might be.
> And apparently no one will listen to what the Gods have to
> say or was this
> thread not made for the lack of auguries.
> And for the record, I am chill, you should see me when I
> get mad.
> DTIC
> Nero
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:59:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
>  
> Salve Nero
>
> I think the satire in my friend's Sulla's post was more
> directed at Piscinus
> than anyone else, because he found it absurd that anyone
> would make that
> statement having minimal information about the facts.
> Remember in ancient times
> everyone and their aunt was always seeing portents - or so
> they thought - but
> simply seeing one wasn't enough. It had to be investigated,
> researched,
> confirmed and discussed. The FACTS were examined. In this
> case someone would
> have arrived to investigate the role the washing machine
> and the pillow case
> played.
>
> Now, I can assure you that to the best of my knowledge the
> Collegium Pontificum
> has not met to discuss Sulla's flood and the relationship,
> if any, his pillow
> case played in it, or why his washing machine clogged.
> Therefore the possible
> disfavour by the Gods is not an official opinion ventured
> by the PM on behalf of
> the collegium but instead obviously just a satirical dig at
> Sulla. I thought
> Sulla turned it around rather adeptly with his very Roman
> risposte about good
> fortune from adversity.
>
>
> As for the comment on his operation since Sulla prays to a
> different deity that
> is a matter for Sulla to investigate if he so wishes with
> the appropriate Judaic
> religious authorities. I highly doubt our Gods would have
> punished Sulla by
> clogging his washing machine. The least one could have
> expected was something
> dire and awe invoking. A piddly flood caused by a pillow
> hardly seems up to the
> might of IOM for example. Let us retain some vestige of
> common sense here. As
> for his operation, well no doubt much to the dismay of many
> he is still with us.
>
>
> Not every act, action etc is the work of the Gods and to
> even claim that
> requires painstaking research and validation. I see none
> here surrounding the
> PM's claim. It could be blasphemy for you to claim
> blasphemy, for aren't you
> taking onto yourself the right to speak for the Gods of the
> res publica?
>
> If you are going to survive Nova Roma with any degree of
> sanity left you need to
> go and order a large bottle of chill pills and consume them
> at a large dosage
> rate before reading this forum.
>
> Vale bene
> Cn. Iulius Caesar
>
> --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:24 PM
>
> I have no problem with christians my problem lies in
> christianity which I admit
> is a flaw in me.
> I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society
> which our forefathers
> built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it
> was destroyed so much
> art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith.
> Millions were and are
> killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand
> because of a faith. Also
> some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter
> ten feet from a
> church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips
> I would get little
> flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it
> got so bad.
> I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not
> proud of it, but I was
> not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was
> raised and what I
> have been exposed to.
> Nero.
> As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as
> hate speech I know
> christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
> LOL
>
> Well good you have a sense of humor!  That is a
> start!
>
> Who does not joke about my G-d?  Maybe because you
> have no thought about it,
> perhaps?
>
> I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much
> as we mortals do,
> at least I hope so.  As the great Comedian Robin
> Williams said, just look at
> the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
>
> And, just a minor correct.  Nearly everyone who I am
> allied to - cultor or
> non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods.  I
> have been Consular twice
> and Censor twice.  I have taken Oaths to defend the
> Religio - my problem are
> with various individuals.  Not the Religio.  That
> is the difference.  Just
> like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still
> be a Church
> going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this
> as she would
> attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
>
> And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. 
> Because your posts do
> tend to come off that you have serious issues with
> Christianity in general
> and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed
> to Christians.  I
> have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own
> experiences.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I
> just almost died
> > laughing
> > right now.
> > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > I am friends with many christians and at least in my
> circle of friends, we
> > go
> > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz
> here people), but if
> > I ask
> > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because
> and I quote "I can't
> > stay
> > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > And the main point of my last post is that they could
> do what they wanted,
> > they
> > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound
> by our laws. You are
> >
> > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts.
> If you were not
> > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died
> many many years ago then
> > I
> > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you
> that they are
> > important
> > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes
> about your god then I
> > will
> > allow jokes about mine.
> > Nero
> >
> > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up
> people for trial
> > without my
> > acknowledgment.
> > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with
> monotheists unless
> > they
> > want to start something first.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy
> but by the end of
> > your
> > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you
> do not know the
> > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then
> that leaves open that
> > by your own rationale the ancient writers like
> Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > others are blasphemous, right?
> >
> > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I
> am not - that makes it
> > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I
> am going with this?
> >
> > You have defeated your own argument.
> >
> > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate
> speech.
> >
> > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be
> it. But you do not
> > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> >
> > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am
> Jewish.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> ><rikudemyx@...<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve,
> > > No they were not, they were paid for that job,
> and also went home at the
> > > end of
> > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb
> abortion clinics and spout
> > > hate and
> > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and
> poof just like magic
> > the
> > > sin
> > > is gone.
> > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had
> with their Gods but I'm
> > > sure
> > > that the satires and comedians had their
> reasons.
> > > That and they were actually funny unlike some
> people......
> > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that
> when I show you the
> > > constitution
> > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > >
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine
> <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that
> all those ancient Roman
> > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms
> of comedic writings that
> > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer
> the question. Don't avoid
> > > not answering it.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They are dead and gone and were not under
> our laws.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and
> auspices
> > > >
> > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient
> Roman Writers who used
> > > Satire,
> > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing
> that involved the Gods are
> > also
> > > > blasphemous?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert
> Woolwine <
> > > > robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> >
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And where does it say that in the
> Constitution?
> > > > >
> > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies
> without knowing the full story of
> > > what
> > > > is
> > > > > involved giving a false impression -
> should that not be countered?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sulla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku
> Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any action that may have been ira
> deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > > taken
> > > > >>
> > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the
> Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows
> disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Nero
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09
> PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs
> and auspices
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous
> and why?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM,
> Riku Demyx
> > > > >><rikudemyx@...
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> > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in
> violation of the constitution.
> > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine
> law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > >> > Nero
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> ________________________________
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
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> 12:09:48 PM
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re:
> Augurs and auspices
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to
> respond to just this part.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > That means that the
> insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > the
> > > > >> Virgo
> > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of
> the Constitution. And so were his
> > remarks
> > > > >> about
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to
> punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > > to
> > > > >> him
> > > > >> > when
> > > > >> > > his operation went bad
> and his house flooded
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I believe my house flooded
> because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > machine
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it
> up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > back
> > > > >> up
> > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Let us not forget the
> rationale world Ok?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance
> the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > kind
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > luck again, because I got
> enough money from the insurance
> > settlement
> > > > >> that I
> > > > >> > was able to redo my Master
> Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > > at
> > > > >> all
> > > > >> > by
> > > > >> > the minor flood that
> happened.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I can use some more of that
> bonus anytime!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sulla
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Caesar Dextro sal.

I too think it is a bad idea, but regardless it would require coordination between the two halves, and that would require cooperation. I think you probably have spotted why this idea is a non-starter. A committee for dissolution would likely be formed which would conclude it's initial inquiries by, oh 2021, at best.

Optime vale

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:

> From: petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Back to Partitioning
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:16 PM
> C. Petronius Minuciae Marcellae
> s.p.d.,
>
> > Another few questions I have about a possible
> dissolution and/or separation:
>
> I think this bad solution (dissolution) never will happen.
> We have to search for all which gather us together than
> divide us.
>
> Vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Kalendis Septembribus P. Memmio K. Fabio II coss.
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Salve Nero,

Oops the iPad seems to have eaten my salutation to you. Apologies on behalf of the infernal machine, though I note you omitted it too :)

Vale bene
Caesar

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:

> From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:46 PM
>
> A lot of things could be caused by the Gods, but I highly
> doubt that included on their agenda is causing Sulla's
> washing machine to get clogged  with a pillowcase.

> I am sure that at some point in the not too distant future
> I will see evidence of you being truly mad. It is only a
> question of how long. It happens to many in here. I hope you
> rise above the average displays of madness and put forth a
> spectacular display of frothing, gnashing and convulsing.
> Life can be so tedious on here at times, with only Maior to
> entertain us.
>
> Vale bene
> Caesar
>  
> --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:26 PM
> > I did not say it was absolutely 100%
> > caused by the Gods, I said it might be.
> > And apparently no one will listen to what the Gods
> have to
> > say or was this
> > thread not made for the lack of auguries.
> > And for the record, I am chill, you should see me when
> I
> > get mad.
> > DTIC
> > Nero
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:59:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> >  
> > Salve Nero
> > 
> > I think the satire in my friend's Sulla's post was
> more
> > directed at Piscinus
> > than anyone else, because he found it absurd that
> anyone
> > would make that
> > statement having minimal information about the facts.
> > Remember in ancient times
> > everyone and their aunt was always seeing portents -
> or so
> > they thought - but
> > simply seeing one wasn't enough. It had to be
> investigated,
> > researched,
> > confirmed and discussed. The FACTS were examined. In
> this
> > case someone would
> > have arrived to investigate the role the washing
> machine
> > and the pillow case
> > played.
> > 
> > Now, I can assure you that to the best of my knowledge
> the
> > Collegium Pontificum
> > has not met to discuss Sulla's flood and the
> relationship,
> > if any, his pillow
> > case played in it, or why his washing machine
> clogged.
> > Therefore the possible
> > disfavour by the Gods is not an official opinion
> ventured
> > by the PM on behalf of
> > the collegium but instead obviously just a satirical
> dig at
> > Sulla. I thought
> > Sulla turned it around rather adeptly with his very
> Roman
> > risposte about good
> > fortune from adversity.
> >
> > 
> > As for the comment on his operation since Sulla prays
> to a
> > different deity that
> > is a matter for Sulla to investigate if he so wishes
> with
> > the appropriate Judaic
> > religious authorities. I highly doubt our Gods would
> have
> > punished Sulla by
> > clogging his washing machine. The least one could
> have
> > expected was something
> > dire and awe invoking. A piddly flood caused by a
> pillow
> > hardly seems up to the
> > might of IOM for example. Let us retain some vestige
> of
> > common sense here. As
> > for his operation, well no doubt much to the dismay of
> many
> > he is still with us.
> >
> > 
> > Not every act, action etc is the work of the Gods and
> to
> > even claim that
> > requires painstaking research and validation. I see
> none
> > here surrounding the
> > PM's claim. It could be blasphemy for you to claim
> > blasphemy, for aren't you
> > taking onto yourself the right to speak for the Gods
> of the
> > res publica?
> > 
> > If you are going to survive Nova Roma with any degree
> of
> > sanity left you need to
> > go and order a large bottle of chill pills and consume
> them
> > at a large dosage
> > rate before reading this forum.
> >
> > Vale bene
> > Cn. Iulius Caesar
> >
> > --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:24 PM
> >
> > I have no problem with christians my problem lies in
> > christianity which I admit
> > is a flaw in me.
> > I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the
> society
> > which our forefathers
> > built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view
> it
> > was destroyed so much
> > art and architecture just obliterated because of a
> faith.
> > Millions were and are
> > killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand
> > because of a faith. Also
> > some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a
> waiter
> > ten feet from a
> > church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of
> tips
> > I would get little
> > flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment
> because it
> > got so bad.
> > I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am
> not
> > proud of it, but I was
> > not born with it either, I am who I am because of how
> I was
> > raised and what I
> > have been exposed to.
> > Nero.
> > As a note to any christians in NR please don't take
> this as
> > hate speech I know
> > christians who can be good and nice...Cato as
> example.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Well good you have a sense of humor!  That is a
> > start!
> >
> > Who does not joke about my G-d?  Maybe because you
> > have no thought about it,
> > perhaps?
> >
> > I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as
> much
> > as we mortals do,
> > at least I hope so.  As the great Comedian Robin
> > Williams said, just look at
> > the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
> >
> > And, just a minor correct.  Nearly everyone who I am
> > allied to - cultor or
> > non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods.  I
> > have been Consular twice
> > and Censor twice.  I have taken Oaths to defend the
> > Religio - my problem are
> > with various individuals.  Not the Religio.  That
> > is the difference.  Just
> > like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can
> still
> > be a Church
> > going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of
> this
> > as she would
> > attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius
> X).
> >
> > And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. 
> > Because your posts do
> > tend to come off that you have serious issues with
> > Christianity in general
> > and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be
> exposed
> > to Christians.  I
> > have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own
> > experiences.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny,
> because I
> > just almost died
> > > laughing
> > > right now.
> > > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > > I am friends with many christians and at least in
> my
> > circle of friends, we
> > > go
> > > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking
> waltz
> > here people), but if
> > > I ask
> > > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no
> because
> > and I quote "I can't
> > > stay
> > > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > > And the main point of my last post is that they
> could
> > do what they wanted,
> > > they
> > > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not
> bound
> > by our laws. You are
> > >
> > > which is the whole point of this whole list of
> posts.
> > If you were not
> > > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who
> died
> > many many years ago then
> > > I
> > > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I
> remind you
> > that they are
> > > important
> > > to us. And no more would you allow me to make
> jokes
> > about your god then I
> > > will
> > > allow jokes about mine.
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put
> up
> > people for trial
> > > without my
> > > acknowledgment.
> > > And as a matter of record I don't have problems
> with
> > monotheists unless
> > > they
> > > want to start something first.
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > So, you say at first no, they are not doing
> blasphemy
> > but by the end of
> > > your
> > > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said
> you
> > do not know the
> > > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So
> then
> > that leaves open that
> > > by your own rationale the ancient writers like
> > Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > > others are blasphemous, right?
> > >
> > > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and
> since I
> > am not - that makes it
> > > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See
> where I
> > am going with this?
> > >
> > > You have defeated your own argument.
> > >
> > > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate
> > speech.
> > >
> > > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so
> be
> > it. But you do not
> > > make your example any better by bringing that
> up.
> > >
> > > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am
> > Jewish.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@...<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Salve,
> > > > No they were not, they were paid for that
> job,
> > and also went home at the
> > > > end of
> > > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > > Just like the christians who go out and
> bomb
> > abortion clinics and spout
> > > > hate and
> > > > party at strip clubs can go to a
> confessional and
> > poof just like magic
> > > the
> > > > sin
> > > > is gone.
> > > > I do not know what relationship the ancients
> had
> > with their Gods but I'm
> > > > sure
> > > > that the satires and comedians had their
> > reasons.
> > > > That and they were actually funny unlike
> some
> > people......
> > > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient
> that
> > when I show you the
> > > > constitution
> > > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and
> auspices
> > > >
> > > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying
> that
> > all those ancient Roman
> > > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other
> forms
> > of comedic writings that
> > > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous?
> Answer
> > the question. Don't avoid
> > > > not answering it.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku
> Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@...
> >
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > They are dead and gone and were not
> under
> > our laws.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nero
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > <robert.woolwine@...
> >
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs
> and
> > auspices
> > > > >
> > > > > And, are you implying that all those
> ancient
> > Roman Writers who used
> > > > Satire,
> > > > > comedy and other forms of comedic
> writing
> > that involved the Gods are
> > > also
> > > > > blasphemous?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM,
> Robert
> > Woolwine <
> > > > > robert.woolwine@...
> >
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > >
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And where does it say that in the
> > Constitution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies
> > without knowing the full story of
> > > > what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > involved giving a false impression
> -
> > should that not be countered?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vale,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sulla
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM,
> Riku
> > Demyx
> > > > ><rikudemyx@...
> > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Any action that may have been
> ira
> > deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > > > taken
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about
> the
> > Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows
> > disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Nero
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> ________________________________
> > > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> >
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010
> 12:22:09
> > PM
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re:
> Augurs
> > and auspices
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ok time for a legal
> discussion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What part of my post is
> blasphemous
> > and why?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16
> AM,
> > Riku Demyx
> > > > > >><rikudemyx@...
> > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > This post is blasphemy
> and in
> > violation of the constitution.
> > > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in
> Maine
> > law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > > >> > Nero
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > ________________________________
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> >
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
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> > 12:09:48 PM
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma]
> Re:
> > Augurs and auspices
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going
> to
> > respond to just this part.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > That means that the
> > insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > > the
> > > > > >> Virgo
> > > > > >> > > Maxima is a
> violation of
> > the Constitution. And so were his
> > > remarks
> > > > > >> about
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them
> to
> > punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > > > to
> > > > > >> him
> > > > > >> > when
> > > > > >> > > his operation went
> bad
> > and his house flooded
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I believe my house
> flooded
> > because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > > machine
> > > > > >> > and
> > > > > >> > the Washing machine ate
> it
> > up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > > back
> > > > > >> up
> > > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Let us not forget the
> > rationale world Ok?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > And, if by some remote
> chance
> > the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > > kind
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > luck again, because I
> got
> > enough money from the insurance
> > > settlement
> > > > > >> that I
> > > > > >> > was able to redo my
> Master
> > Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > > > at
> > > > > >> all
> > > > > >> > by
> > > > > >> > the minor flood that
> > happened.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I can use some more of
> that
> > bonus anytime!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Sulla
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Fine it was chance.
Gods this gets old with you.
Chance okay there I said it.
Happy?
LMA
Nero.



________________________________
From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 10:46:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices



A lot of things could be caused by the Gods, but I highly doubt that included on
their agenda is causing Sulla's washing machine to get clogged with a
pillowcase.

I think those of us who believe in the Gods would always listen to what they
have to say, were it a genuine portent. What I am doing is listening to what you
say the Gods might have said or done, and there is of course a stark difference
between the two. One involves the Gods directly and the other involves you
speculating what they might of have done to his washing machine.

I am sure that at some point in the not too distant future I will see evidence
of you being truly mad. It is only a question of how long. It happens to many in
here. I hope you rise above the average displays of madness and put forth a
spectacular display of frothing, gnashing and convulsing. Life can be so tedious
on here at times, with only Maior to entertain us.

Vale bene
Caesar

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:

> From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:26 PM
> I did not say it was absolutely 100%
> caused by the Gods, I said it might be.
> And apparently no one will listen to what the Gods have to
> say or was this
> thread not made for the lack of auguries.
> And for the record, I am chill, you should see me when I
> get mad.
> DTIC
> Nero
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:59:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
>
> Salve Nero
>
> I think the satire in my friend's Sulla's post was more
> directed at Piscinus
> than anyone else, because he found it absurd that anyone
> would make that
> statement having minimal information about the facts.
> Remember in ancient times
> everyone and their aunt was always seeing portents - or so
> they thought - but
> simply seeing one wasn't enough. It had to be investigated,
> researched,
> confirmed and discussed. The FACTS were examined. In this
> case someone would
> have arrived to investigate the role the washing machine
> and the pillow case
> played.
>
> Now, I can assure you that to the best of my knowledge the
> Collegium Pontificum
> has not met to discuss Sulla's flood and the relationship,
> if any, his pillow
> case played in it, or why his washing machine clogged.
> Therefore the possible
> disfavour by the Gods is not an official opinion ventured
> by the PM on behalf of
> the collegium but instead obviously just a satirical dig at
> Sulla. I thought
> Sulla turned it around rather adeptly with his very Roman
> risposte about good
> fortune from adversity.
>
>
> As for the comment on his operation since Sulla prays to a
> different deity that
> is a matter for Sulla to investigate if he so wishes with
> the appropriate Judaic
> religious authorities. I highly doubt our Gods would have
> punished Sulla by
> clogging his washing machine. The least one could have
> expected was something
> dire and awe invoking. A piddly flood caused by a pillow
> hardly seems up to the
> might of IOM for example. Let us retain some vestige of
> common sense here. As
> for his operation, well no doubt much to the dismay of many
> he is still with us.
>
>
> Not every act, action etc is the work of the Gods and to
> even claim that
> requires painstaking research and validation. I see none
> here surrounding the
> PM's claim. It could be blasphemy for you to claim
> blasphemy, for aren't you
> taking onto yourself the right to speak for the Gods of the
> res publica?
>
> If you are going to survive Nova Roma with any degree of
> sanity left you need to
> go and order a large bottle of chill pills and consume them
> at a large dosage
> rate before reading this forum.
>
> Vale bene
> Cn. Iulius Caesar
>
> --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:24 PM
>
> I have no problem with christians my problem lies in
> christianity which I admit
> is a flaw in me.
> I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society
> which our forefathers
> built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it
> was destroyed so much
> art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith.
> Millions were and are
> killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand
> because of a faith. Also
> some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter
> ten feet from a
> church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips
> I would get little
> flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it
> got so bad.
> I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not
> proud of it, but I was
> not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was
> raised and what I
> have been exposed to.
> Nero.
> As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as
> hate speech I know
> christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
> LOL
>
> Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a
> start!
>
> Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you
> have no thought about it,
> perhaps?
>
> I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much
> as we mortals do,
> at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin
> Williams said, just look at
> the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
>
> And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am
> allied to - cultor or
> non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I
> have been Consular twice
> and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the
> Religio - my problem are
> with various individuals. Not the Religio. That
> is the difference. Just
> like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still
> be a Church
> going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this
> as she would
> attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
>
> And, I am glad you have friends who are christians.
> Because your posts do
> tend to come off that you have serious issues with
> Christianity in general
> and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed
> to Christians. I
> have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own
> experiences.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I
> just almost died
> > laughing
> > right now.
> > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > I am friends with many christians and at least in my
> circle of friends, we
> > go
> > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz
> here people), but if
> > I ask
> > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because
> and I quote "I can't
> > stay
> > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > And the main point of my last post is that they could
> do what they wanted,
> > they
> > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound
> by our laws. You are
> >
> > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts.
> If you were not
> > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died
> many many years ago then
> > I
> > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you
> that they are
> > important
> > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes
> about your god then I
> > will
> > allow jokes about mine.
> > Nero
> >
> > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up
> people for trial
> > without my
> > acknowledgment.
> > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with
> monotheists unless
> > they
> > want to start something first.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy
> but by the end of
> > your
> > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you
> do not know the
> > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then
> that leaves open that
> > by your own rationale the ancient writers like
> Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > others are blasphemous, right?
> >
> > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I
> am not - that makes it
> > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I
> am going with this?
> >
> > You have defeated your own argument.
> >
> > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate
> speech.
> >
> > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be
> it. But you do not
> > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> >
> > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am
> Jewish.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> ><rikudemyx@...<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve,
> > > No they were not, they were paid for that job,
> and also went home at the
> > > end of
> > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb
> abortion clinics and spout
> > > hate and
> > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and
> poof just like magic
> > the
> > > sin
> > > is gone.
> > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had
> with their Gods but I'm
> > > sure
> > > that the satires and comedians had their
> reasons.
> > > That and they were actually funny unlike some
> people......
> > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that
> when I show you the
> > > constitution
> > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > >
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine
> <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that
> all those ancient Roman
> > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms
> of comedic writings that
> > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer
> the question. Don't avoid
> > > not answering it.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They are dead and gone and were not under
> our laws.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and
> auspices
> > > >
> > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient
> Roman Writers who used
> > > Satire,
> > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing
> that involved the Gods are
> > also
> > > > blasphemous?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert
> Woolwine <
> > > > robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> >
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And where does it say that in the
> Constitution?
> > > > >
> > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies
> without knowing the full story of
> > > what
> > > > is
> > > > > involved giving a false impression -
> should that not be countered?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sulla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku
> Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any action that may have been ira
> deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > > taken
> > > > >>
> > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the
> Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows
> disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Nero
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09
> PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs
> and auspices
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous
> and why?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM,
> Riku Demyx
> > > > >><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in
> violation of the constitution.
> > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine
> law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > >> > Nero
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> ________________________________
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > >>
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > >
> > > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010
> 12:09:48 PM
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re:
> Augurs and auspices
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to
> respond to just this part.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > That means that the
> insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > the
> > > > >> Virgo
> > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of
> the Constitution. And so were his
> > remarks
> > > > >> about
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to
> punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > > to
> > > > >> him
> > > > >> > when
> > > > >> > > his operation went bad
> and his house flooded
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I believe my house flooded
> because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > machine
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it
> up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > back
> > > > >> up
> > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Let us not forget the
> rationale world Ok?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance
> the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > kind
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > luck again, because I got
> enough money from the insurance
> > settlement
> > > > >> that I
> > > > >> > was able to redo my Master
> Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > > at
> > > > >> all
> > > > >> > by
> > > > >> > the minor flood that
> happened.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I can use some more of that
> bonus anytime!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sulla
> > > > >> >
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> message have been removed]
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Salve C,
I left mine out in a haste to type, sorry.
Nero



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From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 10:58:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices


Fine it was chance.
Gods this gets old with you.
Chance okay there I said it.
Happy?
LMA
Nero.

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From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 10:46:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices

A lot of things could be caused by the Gods, but I highly doubt that included on

their agenda is causing Sulla's washing machine to get clogged with a
pillowcase.

I think those of us who believe in the Gods would always listen to what they
have to say, were it a genuine portent. What I am doing is listening to what you

say the Gods might have said or done, and there is of course a stark difference
between the two. One involves the Gods directly and the other involves you
speculating what they might of have done to his washing machine.

I am sure that at some point in the not too distant future I will see evidence
of you being truly mad. It is only a question of how long. It happens to many in

here. I hope you rise above the average displays of madness and put forth a
spectacular display of frothing, gnashing and convulsing. Life can be so tedious

on here at times, with only Maior to entertain us.

Vale bene
Caesar

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:

> From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:26 PM
> I did not say it was absolutely 100%
> caused by the Gods, I said it might be.
> And apparently no one will listen to what the Gods have to
> say or was this
> thread not made for the lack of auguries.
> And for the record, I am chill, you should see me when I
> get mad.
> DTIC
> Nero
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:59:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
>
> Salve Nero
>
> I think the satire in my friend's Sulla's post was more
> directed at Piscinus
> than anyone else, because he found it absurd that anyone
> would make that
> statement having minimal information about the facts.
> Remember in ancient times
> everyone and their aunt was always seeing portents - or so
> they thought - but
> simply seeing one wasn't enough. It had to be investigated,
> researched,
> confirmed and discussed. The FACTS were examined. In this
> case someone would
> have arrived to investigate the role the washing machine
> and the pillow case
> played.
>
> Now, I can assure you that to the best of my knowledge the
> Collegium Pontificum
> has not met to discuss Sulla's flood and the relationship,
> if any, his pillow
> case played in it, or why his washing machine clogged.
> Therefore the possible
> disfavour by the Gods is not an official opinion ventured
> by the PM on behalf of
> the collegium but instead obviously just a satirical dig at
> Sulla. I thought
> Sulla turned it around rather adeptly with his very Roman
> risposte about good
> fortune from adversity.
>
>
> As for the comment on his operation since Sulla prays to a
> different deity that
> is a matter for Sulla to investigate if he so wishes with
> the appropriate Judaic
> religious authorities. I highly doubt our Gods would have
> punished Sulla by
> clogging his washing machine. The least one could have
> expected was something
> dire and awe invoking. A piddly flood caused by a pillow
> hardly seems up to the
> might of IOM for example. Let us retain some vestige of
> common sense here. As
> for his operation, well no doubt much to the dismay of many
> he is still with us.
>
>
> Not every act, action etc is the work of the Gods and to
> even claim that
> requires painstaking research and validation. I see none
> here surrounding the
> PM's claim. It could be blasphemy for you to claim
> blasphemy, for aren't you
> taking onto yourself the right to speak for the Gods of the
> res publica?
>
> If you are going to survive Nova Roma with any degree of
> sanity left you need to
> go and order a large bottle of chill pills and consume them
> at a large dosage
> rate before reading this forum.
>
> Vale bene
> Cn. Iulius Caesar
>
> --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:24 PM
>
> I have no problem with christians my problem lies in
> christianity which I admit
> is a flaw in me.
> I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society
> which our forefathers
> built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it
> was destroyed so much
> art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith.
> Millions were and are
> killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand
> because of a faith. Also
> some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter
> ten feet from a
> church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips
> I would get little
> flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it
> got so bad.
> I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not
> proud of it, but I was
> not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was
> raised and what I
> have been exposed to.
> Nero.
> As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as
> hate speech I know
> christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
> LOL
>
> Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a
> start!
>
> Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you
> have no thought about it,
> perhaps?
>
> I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much
> as we mortals do,
> at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin
> Williams said, just look at
> the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
>
> And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am
> allied to - cultor or
> non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I
> have been Consular twice
> and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the
> Religio - my problem are
> with various individuals. Not the Religio. That
> is the difference. Just
> like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still
> be a Church
> going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this
> as she would
> attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
>
> And, I am glad you have friends who are christians.
> Because your posts do
> tend to come off that you have serious issues with
> Christianity in general
> and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed
> to Christians. I
> have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own
> experiences.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I
> just almost died
> > laughing
> > right now.
> > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > I am friends with many christians and at least in my
> circle of friends, we
> > go
> > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz
> here people), but if
> > I ask
> > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because
> and I quote "I can't
> > stay
> > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > And the main point of my last post is that they could
> do what they wanted,
> > they
> > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound
> by our laws. You are
> >
> > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts.
> If you were not
> > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died
> many many years ago then
> > I
> > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you
> that they are
> > important
> > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes
> about your god then I
> > will
> > allow jokes about mine.
> > Nero
> >
> > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up
> people for trial
> > without my
> > acknowledgment.
> > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with
> monotheists unless
> > they
> > want to start something first.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy
> but by the end of
> > your
> > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you
> do not know the
> > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then
> that leaves open that
> > by your own rationale the ancient writers like
> Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > others are blasphemous, right?
> >
> > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I
> am not - that makes it
> > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I
> am going with this?
> >
> > You have defeated your own argument.
> >
> > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate
> speech.
> >
> > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be
> it. But you do not
> > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> >
> > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am
> Jewish.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> ><rikudemyx@...<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve,
> > > No they were not, they were paid for that job,
> and also went home at the
> > > end of
> > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb
> abortion clinics and spout
> > > hate and
> > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and
> poof just like magic
> > the
> > > sin
> > > is gone.
> > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had
> with their Gods but I'm
> > > sure
> > > that the satires and comedians had their
> reasons.
> > > That and they were actually funny unlike some
> people......
> > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that
> when I show you the
> > > constitution
> > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > >
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine
> <robert.woolwine@...<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that
> all those ancient Roman
> > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms
> of comedic writings that
> > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer
> the question. Don't avoid
> > > not answering it.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They are dead and gone and were not under
> our laws.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
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> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and
> auspices
> > > >
> > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient
> Roman Writers who used
> > > Satire,
> > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing
> that involved the Gods are
> > also
> > > > blasphemous?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert
> Woolwine <
> > > > robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> >
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And where does it say that in the
> Constitution?
> > > > >
> > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies
> without knowing the full story of
> > > what
> > > > is
> > > > > involved giving a false impression -
> should that not be countered?
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sulla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku
> Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any action that may have been ira
> deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > > taken
> > > > >>
> > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the
> Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows
> disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Nero
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
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> > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09
> PM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs
> and auspices
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous
> and why?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM,
> Riku Demyx
> > > > >><rikudemyx@...
> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in
> violation of the constitution.
> > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine
> law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > >> > Nero
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> ________________________________
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@...
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > >>
> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > >
> > > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010
> 12:09:48 PM
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re:
> Augurs and auspices
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to
> respond to just this part.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > That means that the
> insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > the
> > > > >> Virgo
> > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of
> the Constitution. And so were his
> > remarks
> > > > >> about
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to
> punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > > to
> > > > >> him
> > > > >> > when
> > > > >> > > his operation went bad
> and his house flooded
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I believe my house flooded
> because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > machine
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it
> up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > back
> > > > >> up
> > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Let us not forget the
> rationale world Ok?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance
> the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > kind
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > luck again, because I got
> enough money from the insurance
> > settlement
> > > > >> that I
> > > > >> > was able to redo my Master
> Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > > at
> > > > >> all
> > > > >> > by
> > > > >> > the minor flood that
> happened.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I can use some more of that
> bonus anytime!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sulla
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Cato Maiori sal.

Maior, YOU ARE LYING.

I want you to produce proof within one hour that I threw "foul insults" at the EX Virgo Maxima. If you cannot, I formally ask the praetura to place you under the strictest moderation they can reasonably agree upon.

I don't even care if you insult me, personally, I have never, in five years of citizenship, ever before asked that someone be moderated. Never.

But to allow you continue unabated in this stream of lying is unconscionable.

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rory12001" <rory12001@...> wrote:
>
> M. HOrtensia Quiritibus spd;
>
> I head from Anna today it seems she received 9 days! moderation for
> being too logical with Graecus last night..
>
> Considering the foul insults thrown at the Virgo Maxima by Cato and Sulla who screamed at getting 3 days moderation, this sickens me.
>
> vale
> Maior
>
>
> Salve Anna,
>
> Your refusal to stop posting on a topic that was closed by me last night has resulted in your third violation on the ML. The posts in question are 80133 and 80131. Your first two violations concerned posts 79802 and 79882, for which you were warned by me and then Crispus.
>
> By agreement with the Praetura you are being put on moderation for one nundinum (9 days) starting from the sending of this email.
>
> Please be mindful of your conduct on the ML in the future, especially since you are not a civis and therefore do not enjoy the same rights and tolerances as those who are.
>
> Vale,
>
> Gualterus Graecus
> Praetorian Quaestor
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "lathyrus77" <lathyrus77@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "gualterus_graecus" <waltms1@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > What don't you understand about "I'm shutting this topic down"? It's done. You're not getting more any more time for your troll session.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Your use of troll is inaccurate. Just because a discussion isn't going your way doesn't mean your opponent is trolling you. It would seem you have no idea what trolling is if you think that's what I'm doing.
> >
> > I suspect you refuse to answer the question because we all know the answer wouldn't fit your narrative that Maior is a bigoted fanatic attempting to throw out all who don't believe as she does.
> >
> > Hello Fox news.
> >
> >
> > -Anna Bucci
> >
> > Ps. Haters don't like being challenged on their misconception, but they still gotta hate.
> >
>

Salve Nero
 
Happiness has nothing to do with it, just interested in seeing that as cultors we don't paint ourselves out as ridiculous by ascribing the hand of the Gods in things so trite as a blocked washing machine with no evidence to support such claims. It rather diminishes our Gods too.
 
Oh trust me, it could have got a lot older ;) 
 
Vale bene
Caesar

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:


From: Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:58 PM


Fine it was chance.
Gods this gets old with you.
Chance okay there I said it.
Happy?
LMA
Nero.





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Cato Iunio Neroni sal.

Ummm...Gene Robinson was the first openly gay, non-celibate priest to be ordained a bishop in a major Christian denomination believing in the historic episcopate, in New Hampshire; enthroned in AD 2004 by the Episcopal Church (Anglican).

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:
>
> Yes I'll hang with the ones who call my Gods monstrous delusions of the past and
> my orientation an abomination...
> Nero
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 4:31:13 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
>
> Cato Iunio Neroni sal.
>
> If you want to experience a whole different Christian mentality, I would suggest
> that you try hanging out with Anglicans or Eastern Orthodox :) It's a whole
> different mindset.
>
> NOTE TO PRAETURA: this is NOT proselytization.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@> wrote:
> >
> > I have no problem with christians my problem lies in christianity which I admit
> >
> > is a flaw in me.
> > I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society which our forefathers
> > built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it was destroyed so much
>
> > art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith. Millions were and are
> >
> > killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand because of a faith. Also
>
> > some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter ten feet from a
> > church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips I would get little
>
> > flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it got so bad.
> > I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not proud of it, but I was
> >
> > not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was raised and what I
> > have been exposed to.
> > Nero.
> > As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as hate speech I know
>
> > christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a start!
> >
> > Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you have no thought about it,
> > perhaps?
> >
> > I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much as we mortals do,
> > at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin Williams said, just look at
> > the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
> >
> > And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am allied to - cultor or
> > non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I have been Consular twice
> > and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the Religio - my problem are
> > with various individuals. Not the Religio. That is the difference. Just
> > like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still be a Church
> > going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this as she would
> > attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
> >
> > And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. Because your posts do
> > tend to come off that you have serious issues with Christianity in general
> > and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed to Christians. I
> > have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own experiences.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I just almost died
> > > laughing
> > > right now.
> > > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > > I am friends with many christians and at least in my circle of friends, we
> > > go
> > > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz here people), but if
> > > I ask
> > > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because and I quote "I can't
> > > stay
> > > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > > And the main point of my last post is that they could do what they wanted,
> > > they
> > > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound by our laws. You are
> > >
> > > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts. If you were not
> > > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died many many years ago then
> > > I
> > > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you that they are
> > > important
> > > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes about your god then I
> > > will
> > > allow jokes about mine.
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up people for trial
> > > without my
> > > acknowledgment.
> > > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with monotheists unless
> > > they
> > > want to start something first.
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy but by the end of
> > > your
> > > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you do not know the
> > > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then that leaves open that
> > > by your own rationale the ancient writers like Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > > others are blasphemous, right?
> > >
> > > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I am not - that makes it
> > > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I am going with this?
> > >
> > > You have defeated your own argument.
> > >
> > > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate speech.
> > >
> > > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be it. But you do not
> > > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> > >
> > > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am Jewish.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Salve,
> > > > No they were not, they were paid for that job, and also went home at the
> > > > end of
> > > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb abortion clinics and spout
> > > > hate and
> > > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and poof just like magic
> > > the
> > > > sin
> > > > is gone.
> > > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had with their Gods but I'm
> > > > sure
> > > > that the satires and comedians had their reasons.
> > > > That and they were actually funny unlike some people......
> > > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that when I show you the
> > > > constitution
> > > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > >
> > > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that all those ancient Roman
> > > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms of comedic writings that
> > > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer the question. Don't avoid
> > > > not answering it.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > They are dead and gone and were not under our laws.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nero
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > <robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > >
> > > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient Roman Writers who used
> > > > Satire,
> > > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing that involved the Gods are
> > > also
> > > > > blasphemous?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> > > > > robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > >
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And where does it say that in the Constitution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies without knowing the full story of
> > > > what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > involved giving a false impression - should that not be countered?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vale,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sulla
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > ><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Any action that may have been ira deorum is not a joke and not to be
> > > > > taken
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Nero
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09 PM
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous and why?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > > >><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in violation of the constitution.
> > > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > > >> > Nero
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > > ><robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > >> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > >
> > > > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:09:48 PM
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to respond to just this part.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > That means that the insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > > the
> > > > > >> Virgo
> > > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of the Constitution. And so were his
> > > remarks
> > > > > >> about
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to punish him. I assume They gave Their answer
> > > > to
> > > > > >> him
> > > > > >> > when
> > > > > >> > > his operation went bad and his house flooded
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I believe my house flooded because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > > machine
> > > > > >> > and
> > > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > > back
> > > > > >> up
> > > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Let us not forget the rationale world Ok?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > > kind
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > luck again, because I got enough money from the insurance
> > > settlement
> > > > > >> that I
> > > > > >> > was able to redo my Master Bathroom too (and that was not impacted
> > > > at
> > > > > >> all
> > > > > >> > by
> > > > > >> > the minor flood that happened.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I can use some more of that bonus anytime!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Sulla
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Cato <catoinnyc@...> wrote:

>
>
> Cato Iunio Neroni sal.
>
> Ummm...Gene Robinson was the first openly gay, non-celibate priest to be
> ordained a bishop in a major Christian denomination believing in the
> historic episcopate, in New Hampshire; enthroned in AD 2004 by the Episcopal
> Church (Anglican).
>
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Riku Demyx
> <rikudemyx@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes I'll hang with the ones who call my Gods monstrous delusions of the
> past and
> > my orientation an abomination...
> > Nero
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 4:31:13 PM
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> >
> > Cato Iunio Neroni sal.
> >
> > If you want to experience a whole different Christian mentality, I would
> suggest
> > that you try hanging out with Anglicans or Eastern Orthodox :) It's a
> whole
> > different mindset.
> >
> > NOTE TO PRAETURA: this is NOT proselytization.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Cato
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>, Riku
> Demyx <rikudemyx@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have no problem with christians my problem lies in christianity which
> I admit
> > >
> > > is a flaw in me.
> > > I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society which our
> forefathers
> > > built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it was destroyed
> so much
> >
> > > art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith. Millions were
> and are
> > >
> > > killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand because of a
> faith. Also
> >
> > > some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter ten feet
> from a
> > > church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips I would get
> little
> >
> > > flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it got so bad.
> > > I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not proud of it,
> but I was
> > >
> > > not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was raised and
> what I
> > > have been exposed to.
> > > Nero.
> > > As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as hate speech
> I know
> >
> > > christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@>
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a start!
> > >
> > > Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you have no thought about
> it,
> > > perhaps?
> > >
> > > I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much as we mortals
> do,
> > > at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin Williams said, just
> look at
> > > the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
> > >
> > > And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am allied to - cultor
> or
> > > non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I have been Consular
> twice
> > > and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the Religio - my problem
> are
> > > with various individuals. Not the Religio. That is the difference. Just
> > > like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still be a Church
> > > going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this as she
> would
> > > attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
> > >
> > > And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. Because your posts
> do
> > > tend to come off that you have serious issues with Christianity in
> general
> > > and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed to
> Christians. I
> > > have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own experiences.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I just almost died
> > > > laughing
> > > > right now.
> > > > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > > > I am friends with many christians and at least in my circle of
> friends, we
> > > > go
> > > > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz here people),
> but if
> > > > I ask
> > > > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because and I quote "I
> can't
> > > > stay
> > > > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > > > And the main point of my last post is that they could do what they
> wanted,
> > > > they
> > > > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound by our laws.
> You are
> > > >
> > > > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts. If you were not
> > > > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died many many years
> ago then
> > > > I
> > > > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > > > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you that they are
> > > > important
> > > > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes about your god
> then I
> > > > will
> > > > allow jokes about mine.
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up people for trial
> > > > without my
> > > > acknowledgment.
> > > > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with monotheists
> unless
> > > > they
> > > > want to start something first.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > >
> > > > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy but by the end
> of
> > > > your
> > > > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you do not know the
> > > > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then that leaves open
> that
> > > > by your own rationale the ancient writers like Martial, Lucian, Ovid
> and
> > > > others are blasphemous, right?
> > > >
> > > > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I am not - that
> makes it
> > > > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I am going with
> this?
> > > >
> > > > You have defeated your own argument.
> > > >
> > > > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate speech.
> > > >
> > > > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be it. But you do
> not
> > > > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> > > >
> > > > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am Jewish.
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Sulla
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Salve,
> > > > > No they were not, they were paid for that job, and also went home
> at the
> > > > > end of
> > > > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb abortion clinics and
> spout
> > > > > hate and
> > > > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and poof just like
> magic
> > > > the
> > > > > sin
> > > > > is gone.
> > > > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had with their Gods
> but I'm
> > > > > sure
> > > > > that the satires and comedians had their reasons.
> > > > > That and they were actually funny unlike some people......
> > > > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that when I show you the
> > > > > constitution
> > > > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nero
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > <robert.woolwine@<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > >
> > > > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that all those ancient
> Roman
> > > > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms of comedic writings
> that
> > > > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer the question. Don't
> avoid
> > > > > not answering it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > ><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are dead and gone and were not under our laws.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nero
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > <robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient Roman Writers who
> used
> > > > > Satire,
> > > > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing that involved the Gods
> are
> > > > also
> > > > > > blasphemous?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> > > > > > robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > >
> > > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And where does it say that in the Constitution?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies without knowing the full
> story of
> > > > > what
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > involved giving a false impression - should that not be
> countered?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vale,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sulla
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > > ><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Any action that may have been ira deorum is not a joke and not
> to be
> > > > > > taken
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the Gods, it's not a laughing
> matter.
> > > > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Nero
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > > ><robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09 PM
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous and why?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > > > >><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > > > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in violation of the constitution.
> > > > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine law that you have forgotten
> NR's
> > > > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > > > >> > Nero
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > > > ><robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com
> ><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:09:48 PM
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to respond to just this part.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > That means that the insults that Senator Sulla directed
> against
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> Virgo
> > > > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of the Constitution. And so were his
> > > > remarks
> > > > > > >> about
> > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to punish him. I assume They gave Their
> answer
> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> him
> > > > > > >> > when
> > > > > > >> > > his operation went bad and his house flooded
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > I believe my house flooded because I put a pillow in the
> Washing
> > > > > > machine
> > > > > > >> > and
> > > > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it up....causing a clog tha allowed
> it to
> > > > > back
> > > > > > >> up
> > > > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Let us not forget the rationale world Ok?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance the Gods did it. Hey I can use
> that
> > > > > kind
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >> > luck again, because I got enough money from the insurance
> > > > settlement
> > > > > > >> that I
> > > > > > >> > was able to redo my Master Bathroom too (and that was not
> impacted
> > > > > at
> > > > > > >> all
> > > > > > >> > by
> > > > > > >> > the minor flood that happened.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > I can use some more of that bonus anytime!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > > > >> >
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That's great Cato, I have just performed my evening prayer and am feeling at
peace with the world so here it is: You win, you were right, thank you for the
lesson.
Peace
DTIC
Nero.



________________________________
From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 11:30:53 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices


Cato Iunio Neroni sal.

Ummm...Gene Robinson was the first openly gay, non-celibate priest to be
ordained a bishop in a major Christian denomination believing in the historic
episcopate, in New Hampshire; enthroned in AD 2004 by the Episcopal Church
(Anglican).

Vale,

Cato

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@...> wrote:
>
> Yes I'll hang with the ones who call my Gods monstrous delusions of the past
>and
>
> my orientation an abomination...
> Nero
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cato <catoinnyc@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 4:31:13 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
>
>
> Cato Iunio Neroni sal.
>
> If you want to experience a whole different Christian mentality, I would
>suggest
>
> that you try hanging out with Anglicans or Eastern Orthodox :) It's a whole
> different mindset.
>
> NOTE TO PRAETURA: this is NOT proselytization.
>
> Vale,
>
> Cato
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@> wrote:
> >
> > I have no problem with christians my problem lies in christianity which I
>admit
>
> >
> > is a flaw in me.
> > I am devoted in entirety to my religion and the society which our forefathers
>
> > built. Rome ruled the world as it were and in my view it was destroyed so
>much
>
>
> > art and architecture just obliterated because of a faith. Millions were and
>are
>
> >
> > killed over a faith. I can't hold my boyfriend's hand because of a faith.
>Also
>
>
> > some personal issues in my past. I used to work as a waiter ten feet from a
> > church and a lot of times on morning shifts instead of tips I would get
>little
>
>
> > flyers and pamplets, I almost lost my apartment because it got so bad.
> > I admit there is an animosity deep in my heart, I am not proud of it, but I
>was
>
> >
> > not born with it either, I am who I am because of how I was raised and what I
>
> > have been exposed to.
> > Nero.
> > As a note to any christians in NR please don't take this as hate speech I
>know
>
>
> > christians who can be good and nice...Cato as example.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:13:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Well good you have a sense of humor! That is a start!
> >
> > Who does not joke about my G-d? Maybe because you have no thought about it,
> > perhaps?
> >
> > I would like to think my G-d has a sense of humor as much as we mortals do,
> > at least I hope so. As the great Comedian Robin Williams said, just look at
> > the Platypus, clearly G-d as a sense of humor.
> >
> > And, just a minor correct. Nearly everyone who I am allied to - cultor or
> > non-cultor - know my respect for the Roman Gods. I have been Consular twice
> > and Censor twice. I have taken Oaths to defend the Religio - my problem are
> > with various individuals. Not the Religio. That is the difference. Just
> > like a Catholic who has a problem with Vatican II can still be a Church
> > going Catholic (my ex fiancee was a perfect example of this as she would
> > attend services at a splinter Church of Society Pius X).
> >
> > And, I am glad you have friends who are christians. Because your posts do
> > tend to come off that you have serious issues with Christianity in general
> > and the best way to alter that view IMHO is to be exposed to Christians. I
> > have that failing with Islam, so I speak from my own experiences.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Riku Demyx <rikudemyx@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh Sulla I lied about you not being funny, because I just almost died
> > > laughing
> > > right now.
> > > It's not hate speech it is the truth.
> > > I am friends with many christians and at least in my circle of friends, we
> > > go
> > > out and party, drink, dance(and I'm not talking waltz here people), but if
> > > I ask
> > > them to hang out late on Saturday I get a no because and I quote "I can't
> > > stay
> > > out too late, I have church in the morning."
> > > And the main point of my last post is that they could do what they wanted,
> > > they
> > > are DEAD. Further as I have stated they were not bound by our laws. You
are
> > >
> > > which is the whole point of this whole list of posts. If you were not
> > > sidestepping the issue by bringing up men who died many many years ago
then
> > > I
> > > wouldn't have ever brought up anything else.
> > > Our Gods may not be important to you, but I remind you that they are
> > > important
> > > to us. And no more would you allow me to make jokes about your god then I
> > > will
> > > allow jokes about mine.
> > > Nero
> > >
> > > P.S. I never asked to be the judge you simply put up people for trial
> > > without my
> > > acknowledgment.
> > > And as a matter of record I don't have problems with monotheists unless
> > > they
> > > want to start something first.
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:55:37 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > >
> > > So, you say at first no, they are not doing blasphemy but by the end of
> > > your
> > > post you're saying MAYBE because hey as you said you do not know the
> > > relationship they had with the Gods. Right? So then that leaves open that
> > > by your own rationale the ancient writers like Martial, Lucian, Ovid and
> > > others are blasphemous, right?
> > >
> > > Or are you saying because they are FUNNY and since I am not - that makes
it
> > > ok? So, who gets to play all mighty judge? See where I am going with this?
> > >
> > > You have defeated your own argument.
> > >
> > > Now for the rest of your post you are doing hate speech.
> > >
> > > Look you have a problem with Christians fine - so be it. But you do not
> > > make your example any better by bringing that up.
> > >
> > > And, for the record, I am not a Christian. I am Jewish.
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Riku Demyx
> > ><rikudemyx@<rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Salve,
> > > > No they were not, they were paid for that job, and also went home at the
> > > > end of
> > > > the night and prayed to the same Gods.
> > > > Just like the christians who go out and bomb abortion clinics and spout
> > > > hate and
> > > > party at strip clubs can go to a confessional and poof just like magic
> > > the
> > > > sin
> > > > is gone.
> > > > I do not know what relationship the ancients had with their Gods but I'm
> > > > sure
> > > > that the satires and comedians had their reasons.
> > > > That and they were actually funny unlike some people......
> > > > And speaking of avoidance how convenient that when I show you the
> > > > constitution
> > > > that mysteriously got forgotten.
> > > >
> > > > Nero
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > <robert.woolwine@<robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:42:59 PM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > >
> > > > That isn't what I asked. Are you implying that all those ancient Roman
> > > > Writers who used satire, comedy and other forms of comedic writings that
> > > > involved the Gods are also blasphemous? Answer the question. Don't avoid
> > > > not answering it.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > ><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > They are dead and gone and were not under our laws.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nero
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > <robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:37 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > >
> > > > > And, are you implying that all those ancient Roman Writers who used
> > > > Satire,
> > > > > comedy and other forms of comedic writing that involved the Gods are
> > > also
> > > > > blasphemous?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Robert Woolwine <
> > > > > robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > >
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And where does it say that in the Constitution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When someone spreads inaccuracies without knowing the full story of
> > > > what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > involved giving a false impression - should that not be countered?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vale,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sulla
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > ><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Any action that may have been ira deorum is not a joke and not to
be
> > > > > taken
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> lightly. We do not joke about the Gods, it's not a laughing matter.
> > > > > >> Joking about the Gods shows disrespect for the Gods.
> > > > > >> Blasphemy.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Nero
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > > >> From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > ><robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > > 40gmail.com>
> > > > > <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <Nova-Roma%
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> > > > > >> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:22:09 PM
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> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ok time for a legal discussion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What part of my post is blasphemous and why?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Riku Demyx
> > > > > >><rikudemyx@ <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com> <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>
> > > <rikudemyx%40yahoo.com
> > > > ><rikudemyx%40yahoo.com>>
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> > > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
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> > > > > >> >
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> > > > > >> > This post is blasphemy and in violation of the constitution.
> > > > > >> > You're so wrapped up in Maine law that you have forgotten NR's
> > > > > >> > DTIC
> > > > > >> > Nero
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > From: Robert Woolwine
> > > > > ><robert.woolwine@ <robert.woolwine%40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
> > > 40gmail.com><robert.woolwine%
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> > > > > >> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > <Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><Nova-Roma%
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> > > > > >> > Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:09:48 PM
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Augurs and auspices
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Oh Piscinus, I am going to respond to just this part.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > That means that the insults that Senator Sulla directed against
> > > > the
> > > > > >> Virgo
> > > > > >> > > Maxima is a violation of the Constitution. And so were his
> > > remarks
> > > > > >> about
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > Gods, daring Them to punish him. I assume They gave Their
answer
> > > > to
> > > > > >> him
> > > > > >> > when
> > > > > >> > > his operation went bad and his house flooded
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > Oh really?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I believe my house flooded because I put a pillow in the Washing
> > > > > machine
> > > > > >> > and
> > > > > >> > the Washing machine ate it up....causing a clog tha allowed it to
> > > > back
> > > > > >> up
> > > > > >> > and thus flood.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Let us not forget the rationale world Ok?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > And, if by some remote chance the Gods did it. Hey I can use that
> > > > kind
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > luck again, because I got enough money from the insurance
> > > settlement
> > > > > >> that I
> > > > > >> > was able to redo my Master Bathroom too (and that was not
impacted
> > > > at
> > > > > >> all
> > > > > >> > by
> > > > > >> > the minor flood that happened.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I can use some more of that bonus anytime!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Vale,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Sulla
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