Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Mar 1-7, 2011

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83272 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Create a gladiator and enter it in the games now!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83273 From: A. Decia Scriptrix Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Official Announcement: THE OPENING OF THE LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83274 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - THE BIG STREET PARADE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83275 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: KALENDIS MARTIIS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83276 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - New characters in Rome
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83277 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Create a gladiator and enter it in the games now!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83278 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83279 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 1 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83280 From: Cn. Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83281 From: Sabinus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Kalendae Martiae: Feriae Marti, Matronalia, Iuno Lucina, Sacrum Iuno
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83282 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83283 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Still to Come....
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83285 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Support my Gladiatorial entries !!!!!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83286 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: ANSWERS to - Re: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythol
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83287 From: Sabinus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Sacrifice to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83289 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 1 of Ludi
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83291 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83292 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Words from the Aedile (Aeternia)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83293 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83294 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Support my Gladiatorial entries !!!!!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83295 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83296 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83297 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83298 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83299 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83300 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83301 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Honey cakes now on sale
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83302 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - THE TRICLINIUM CHAT
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83303 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - THE TRICLINIUM CHAT (A Brief Introductio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83304 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83305 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: After every Kalends, Nones, Ides, the next day is "Ater", 3/2/2011,
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83306 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 12th Anniversary of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83307 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83308 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Today we honour: MARS and CONCORDIA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83309 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83310 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 1 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83311 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 2 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83312 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83313 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of The Day (Aeternia)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83314 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Still time for Gladiator entries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83315 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Retiarii needed for the Munera
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83316 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 2
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83317 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Faction representation in the Munera Gladiatoria entries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83318 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of The Day Dies 2 (Aeternia)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83319 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: a.d. VI Non. Mar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83320 From: Libero Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83321 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Quest
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83322 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 2
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83323 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 2
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83324 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Rules for Certamen Historicum - Finalized on the wiki
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83325 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: Returning Home to Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83326 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium Chat
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83327 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Registration for the Munera Gladiatoria is now closed
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83328 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 3 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83329 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: Returning Home to Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83330 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: De Vestali nostrá
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83331 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Romani
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83332 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Certamen Latinum #1 (Latin Quiz)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83333 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83334 From: marcushoratius Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83335 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83336 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83337 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83338 From: Nyk Cowham Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83339 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83340 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83341 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83342 From: Sabinus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83343 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Congratulations to the Victors!: An Invitation
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83344 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83345 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Today we honor: JUNO
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83346 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 3
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83347 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Advertising the Literary Contest
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83348 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83349 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: a.d. V Non. Mar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83350 From: Aqvillivs Rota Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83351 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83352 From: publiusalbucius Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De Vestali nostra
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83353 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De Vestali nostrá
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83354 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83355 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 4 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83356 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi N...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83357 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Map of Roman Empire circa 400 AD
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83358 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: a.d. IV Non. Mar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83359 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83360 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Gladiator combat rules
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83361 From: Libero Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 4 of Ludi Nov
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83362 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 4
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83363 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 276
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83364 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of the Day (C. Maria Caeca)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83365 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83366 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83367 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: FW: Pompeii the Exhibit | Opens Today
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83368 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: FW: Pompeii the Exhibit | Opens Today
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83369 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 5 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83370 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Today we honor: MINERVA, the Goddess of a Thousand Works
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83371 From: Marcus Prometheus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Virtual History Roma è un’applicazione strabiliante. Parola di St
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83372 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Naumachia-After Hours Party- The Invitation
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83373 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83374 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83375 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 276
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83376 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Today we Honor: NEPTUNUS, the God of Oceanus, Bodies of Water, & Equ
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83377 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Dies 5
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83378 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: a.d. III Non. Mar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83379 From: Chad Stricklin Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Minerva
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83380 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: Minerva
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83381 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83382 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: THE NAUMACHIA PRE-SHOW
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83383 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83384 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Presenting The NAUMACHIA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83385 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83386 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83387 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83388 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83389 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Checking and changing character encoding
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83390 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: Checking and changing character encoding
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83391 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - STREET REPORT - From your roving reporter
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83392 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Wiki Editor help please
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83393 From: Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Venator in absentia...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83394 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83395 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Naumachian After Party
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83396 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83397 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83398 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83399 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #3 (With answers and part time resu
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83400 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Latin Contest Thoughts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83401 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: Venator in absentia...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83402 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 6 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83403 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Munera Gladiatoria Semifinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83404 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: prid. Non. Mar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83405 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83406 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: FW: [Explorator] explorator 13.46
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83407 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Dies 6
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83408 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of the Day (C. Maria Caeca)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83409 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Calendar
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83410 From: M Lucretius Agricola Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Calendar (and another link)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83411 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Today we honor: VESTA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83412 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83413 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Nundinal Calendar I: pr. Non. Mar. to pr. Id. Mar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83414 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - applic
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83415 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Certamen Latinum #4
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83416 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83417 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Latin Contest Thoughts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83418 From: publiusalbucius Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83419 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 7 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83420 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83421 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship -
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83422 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Today we honor: VESTA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83423 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 276
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83424 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83425 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship -
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83426 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83427 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Calendar
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83428 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Aeterna Nova Roma in hexameter By C. Petronius Dexter!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83429 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83430 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83431 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83432 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83433 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83434 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83435 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: T. Flavius Aquila' Righ to Citizenship
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83436 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: NONIS MARTIIS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83437 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Aeterna Nova Roma in hexameter By C. Petronius Dexter
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83438 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83439 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: T. Flavius Aquila' Righ to Citizenship
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83440 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Citizenship and the SCU
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83441 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83442 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83443 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83444 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83445 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83446 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83447 From: publiusalbucius Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: On the probabilities of expulsion in 2763
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83448 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Today we honor: VULCANUS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83449 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83450 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83272 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Create a gladiator and enter it in the games now!
Salvete omnes!

Create a Gladiator and enter him or her in the Ludi Novi Romani now!
The games start on March 3rd so I need your entry right away.
Send your entry to m.pompeius@...
A gladiator is easy to create. The basic information, like that shown below, is
all that is required to compete:

Your Name:  Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Gladiator's Name: Ahala
Gender:  Male
Age:  28
Height:  5' 9"
Weight:  180lbs
Class/Type:  Dimachaerus
Tactics:  Blitz
Ludus (Faction):  Veneta
 
If you have any questions, let me know.
For complete rules, just send an email to me at m.pompeius@... anytime.

Optime valete!
 


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83273 From: A. Decia Scriptrix Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Official Announcement: THE OPENING OF THE LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764
EX OFFICIO AEDILIS Sta. Cornelia Aeternia



*POMPA*

In the pre-dawn hours of this first day of the Ludi Novi Romani of 2764, the
crowd is gathering outside the Temple of Iuppiter. It is promising to be a
sunny day, but right now is still very chilly and people are well bundled
up. Slaves belonging to Tribune Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria are circulating
through the crowd with small leather pouches filled with heated stones,
which are being very well received.

After a last discussion with organizers, Curule Aedile Sta. Cornelia
Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia steps onto the portable platform she takes with
her so as to be able to see over the crowd and speaks:

*OPENING SPEECH OF AEDILIS STA. CORNELIA AETERNIA
*
"The Ludi Novi Romani, was created three years ago to commemorate the
annual anniversary of Nova Roma's founding. This year we are following that
tradition and celebrating with the big number* "XIII"*. A day for each year
that Nova Roma has been in existence. This set of Curule Aediles and their
Aedilician Cohors have worked extremely hard to present their fellow
citizens and friends with activities and spectacles in mass bounties. We
have had many pitfalls within the last year of our Republic, we as one
tribe have overcome that dark storm of sorrow. We ask all citizens from
every walk of life to rejoice and celebrate in Nova Roma's next phase of
life, with contests and quizzes galore, gladiatorial combats, a magnificent
tribute to the Sea, and listen to myths retold by the fireside. In the
end we simply encourage you all to* Carpe Diem* and* LET US ALL HAVE FUN*!"


As the day begins to lighten, the many colors of the clothing and banners of
the crowd begin to show. Religious officials, magistrates, athletes and
actors are all in their best attire. A group of boys, not yet old enough to
join in actual military maneuvers, are helping to keep the crowd in line.
They will be demonstrating the drills they have been so assiduously
practicing for the last few weeks later. Members of the actual military as
well as actors playing the military, are decked out in armor so brightly
polished that it seems to be lit from within.

The procession winds through the streets accompanied by the voices of a
chorus. The sound of flutes, lyres and drums add to the cheerful atmosphere
of the morning. The chorus is followed by a group of dancers, acrobats and
magicians, many of them brought from the far-flung reaches of the world to
delight the citizens of Rome.
Slaves carrying trays of massy silver and gold, all the prizes to be awarded
as part of the games are part of this sacred ritual which opens the games.
Flower petals are everywhere, and the sweet scent of incense fills the air,
mixing with the scent of food that vendors are starting to offer, a promise
of the many edible delights which await the crowds over the next thirteen
days.

Across the Forum and through the Porta Triumphalis of the Circus the long
procession snakes. Although the first members of the procession reached the
Circus, it takes nearly an hour for the procession to finally gather again.


At last the gilded litters carrying the images of the Gods arrive. The
litters are of rare cedarwood, newly made and a gift of the* Curule Aedile
Aeternia*. The litter hangings as well as the raiment of the statues are of
silk brought from far beyond Our Sea. The sacrificial beasts also arrive,
snowy white and decked with flowers, walking calmly. The Aediles Curules
stand right before the altar. Aedile Aeternia covers her head with her
palla, and prays loudly:

*OPENING RITUAL OF THE GAMES
*
�O Great Jupiter Capitoline,
and You, Mars, founder and bearer of the Roman Name,
and You, Concordia, creative force of Our Nation's Unity,
and You, Vesta, keeper of the Eternal Flame,
and all of You, eternal Gods,
who raised this mass of the Roman Republic
to the highest glories of the world,
I pray and invoke You in the name of the New Roman People:
knit together the many threads of our endeavors,
strengthen our service to the Republic of Nova Roma,
and let any action or intention which does not meet with Your approbation
dwindle.�

- Some INCENSE is put into the fire -

The statue of Iuppiter was carried by procession around the templum and
brought behind the Ara Iovis. The statue remains there until the end of
the ceremony.

Since the sacrifice was accepted by the God favorably Ludi Novia Romani are
proclaimed open.


The Ludi have begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83274 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - THE BIG STREET PARADE
Salvete omnes

"Welcome to Rome, and to the opening day of the Ludi Novi Romani".

"I'm here in downtown Rome to report on the big parade that will soon be coming our way on its way to the Circus Maximus where my colleagues over there will be giving you reports on the opening ceremony and, of course, the other exciting events planned ".

"And not only today, of course, because we have all sorts of entertainment over the entire thirteen days, marking the thirteenth anniversary of our wonderful Republic".

"Now, just to remind you, ladies and gentlemen, that our Consuls this year are the honoured Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator ( a shout of Hooray! goes up from the crowd), thank you ladies and gentlemen, and of course the equally respected Gaius Equitius Cato (another shout of Hooray!). They are already at the opening ceremony and of course they are honouring the Ludi this year".

"Well ladies and gentlemen, I hear by your cheering that you are really beginning to enter into the spirit of things here, so let's let those who are listening hear what an excited crowd we've got here today. Come on folks, let's hear you greet the whole of Rome. Come on folks: Sal Way Tay, Sal Way Tay". And back comes the crowd with "SAL WAY TAY, SAL WAY TAY, SAL WAY TAY".

"Come on folks, I can hardly hear you. SAL WAY TAY, SAL WAY TAY." The response this time is deafening. "SAL WAY TAY, SAL WAY TAY".

"That's much better", quickly checking his equipment is still intact. "They probably heard that right out in Britannia. Now, who is here today? Well, ladies and gentlemen, the streets are packed with crowds. I've never seen anything like it in all my time in Rome. Tell me sir, where are you from?"

"I'm just in from Ardea, with my family. We've planted the crops, and have come to Rome for the spectacle". Well its good to see you and your family – this is your family? Well hello to all of you, and welcome to Rome".

"Now, ladies and gentlemen, I just have time to remind you that the Aediles Curules this year are the excellent Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia (another cheer from the crowd) and her equally excellent colleague Aulus Vitellius Celsus (more cheering). Now, I wish you could see this, ladies and gentlemen, I really do, because they have commanded that Rome be decorated for the occasion. Across every main street we can see banners, flags, bunting, the emblems of the four factiones taking part in the games, and the graffiti, you
should see those, ladies and gentlemen, the advertisements of the traders who are sponsoring the games, the adverts for - no wait a minute, I think I can hear - yes, it is I can hear the big parade starting off. Now, I'm just going to climb up here, thank you sir, sorry, excuse me, that's it, now I can see above the crowd. I've never seen so many people, the street is jammed."

"Ah, I can really hear them now. The drums thundering, the trumpets blaring, the cymbals crashing, gosh, it sounds - oh, and now I can see the leading banners, right across the street, what's that on them, oh yes, it reads LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764, and right behind them come the band and the marchers. They're just coming into view now, ladies and gentlemen. Those at the front of the crowds are trying
to push back to let the parade through, those behind are trying to push forward to see it, oh its - no its okay , its all sorting itself out, and here they come"

"Oh I say, look at that, just in front of the first banner are a group of boys marching along to the sound of the drums. Well, they're really enjoying their day on the streets of Rome".

"And now here come the first of the parade, and its - now what colours are those? Oh yes, its a guard from the Seventh Cohort of the Thirtieth, and that must be Parnesius their Centurion leading them. Oh I wish you could see this, ladies and gentlemen, they are the pride of our army, so smart, in perfect step,colours held high and erect, backs straight, chests out, equipment gleaming, the
perfect Rome pace to their step, goodness, it makes you proud to be a Roman citizen".

The crowd yells madly as the guards march past.

"Now, next we can see the team from the Cohors Aedilicia who have been
organising the games. They're known as the "Happy Bees", because they have been so busy organising the games this year. They've all got little flags with an emblem of the bee on them. They're all waving to the crowd, and getting a frantic applause back. Well done you Happy Bees, off you buzz to continue your work"

"And now its one of the merchants, he has a huge wagon drawn by two magnificent horses, all decorated with brasses and ribbons, I hear they're called "shire horses", and they're far bigger than the horses we normally see in Rome. Their heads almost come up to my level, and I'm standing high up above the crowd. The trader has a huge load of supplies on board, and his servants are handing out samples to the crowd. Here come the boys again, running back in to get another
piece of fruit and dashing off with their prize. It really is a fantastic sight, ladies and gentlemen, but there is plenty more coming into view"

"And here come some of the vendors on foot, its their girls and they have trays of goodies to give out to the crowds, Everyone is jostling to get to the front, and the girls are walking on both sides of the street, smiling, laughing, waving, advertising their shops and handing out some very impressive looking samples. Some of the folks down there seem to be stocking up with food for their day at the games. Now, what's this coming next?"

"Oh yes, I've seen some of these before. Its the fire eaters and the sword swallowers. Oh, what colour and excitement, the sheets of flame Â… some are jumping through the flames and blowing out mouthfuls of flames themselves. I can hear the rush of the flames and the screams of the crowd as they really get excited at seeing this".

"Away they go, and next its some floats with - what is that? - ah yes, birds of every shape, size and colour. There are tiny humming birds, great big eagles, flamingos, cranes, a pair of swans, some doves, - I think that's a Glossy Ibis, those ones are called Macaws, there are some goldfinches, a heron, and next here come some birds of prey - I think those are hawks, tied to the wrists of their handlers, and occasionally swooping off to get - yes, they're picking up pieces of the food that has got dropped, and carrying it back to their perches on the wagon. And here is a cart with just one bird on it. Now, ladies and gentlemen, some of you will have seen this one before, I'm told its called a Hoopoe, and its the special bird of the Curulis Aeternia. Its about a foot, long, its wingspan is about a foot and a half, and it has a great coloured crest
on its head, where the orange feathers end with black tips. The crowd have quietened just long enough to hear it calling out "ooop , ooop , ooop", there, we heard it. Its got a place of honour with a cart all to itself. Well, that was all a colourful display, but what's this coming next?"

"Ah, its another merchant, this time with bread and cakes. That's the shop that sells my favourite honey cakes, and he has his shop girls out on both sides with trays full to give out to the crowd. Oh, I wish I was down there, ladies and gentlemen, but I know I will be able to get some later on, so don't worry. There will be plenty for all. And here comes the shop that sells the dormice in fish sauce, a very popular dish at even the best dinner parties. There's a man down
there with so much food that he can scarcely hold it all, he will be well set up for the day down at the games."

"Next its the oil lamp shop. This is the one where they make lamps out of terra sigillata, and they have got some superb examples on display. They make some of their lamps here in Rome, but they can also supply lamps from many different places, so they always have a big display to choose from. And here is the wine merchant, with amphorae and barrels loaded onto a huge wagon. They must be dray
horses or shire horses, as that wagon must weigh many tons. The back of the wagon is all decorated with vine leaves and vine branches from where last year's harvest was grown, and there are girls on the back passing down small sips of wine for those at the front of the crowd to taste. They're also taking orders for delivery, so they should do a good trade this year."

"Oh my gosh, was that a lion roaring? Yes, its some floats with animal cages. In the first cage are the crocodiles. They look fearsome creatures. Then there is a camel, just look at the size of him, and next come the wild cats, there are leopards, panthers cheetahs and a jaguar. Then there are some gentler animals, an antelope and a gazelle, a panda and a zebra. There's a bear, there's a wolf, oh, and I wish you could see this, there are some monkeys swinging in and out of their cage and trying to snatch bits of food from the crowd. The wolf of course is sacred in Rome, and Romans are sometimes called the she-wolf's litter because that is how Rome
started. Oh I'm so glad to see that here today on this anniversary. We mustn't forget old Rome, even in this modern age. New Rome is of course the best state in the whole world, and how wonderful it is to be right in the heart of it today".

"And here come the dancing girls. Those at the front have hoops of flowers that they are passing over their heads as they dance in time to the tambourines that those behind them are playing. Oh, that's a glorious spectacle, ladies and gentlemen, I really wish you could see that. And right behind them are some
girls with olive coloured skin, who are dancing with snakes. And beside them are two men wearing strange turbans and wildly coloured robes, who are playing on flutes that the snakes are moving in time to. My word, that's an exotic sight that we do not see very often in Rome."

"There is just time for me to mention that both the Praetors will of course be at the games, they are Gnaeus Iulius Caesar and Marcus Cornelius Gualterus Graecus".

"And here is one of the schools, with the boys proudly carrying their writing tablets and the magistri with their scrolls. And here is a troop of marines, no doubt fresh from one of their sea patrols. The crowd are giving them a big cheer. They need to keep the seas safe so that the merchants can be supplied and the people can eat. They look smart, but not as smart as the Legions, and not as smart as the men from the Thirtieth who we saw earlier. But they have to be brave to go to sea, and they have won many victories, so they deserve their
place here today".

"And of course our Censors will already be at the opening ceremony. This year our Censors are Titus Iulius Sabinus and a man I know well, Publius Memmius Albucius.".

"And that's not all, ladies and gentlemen. Here come the walkers on stilts - ha ha ha , one has just reached over and shaken my hand. Salve amice. And there are jugglers and acrobats, some are throwing others up into the air where they fall back down into the arms of their colleagues. Others are doing cartwheels, walking on their hands, there is one using a pole to leap up into the air and land head-over-heels, and there's one doing somersaults".

"Of course, these are very much the People's Games, and I cannot miss out our Aedilis Plebis, Gaia Valeria Pulchra, and the tribunes of the Plebs, my good friend Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus, Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria, Gaius Aemilius Crassus and Quintus Servilius Priscus. We will see them later all down at the games, along with the priests and our senators,
when we arrive after the opening ceremonies".

"We're nearly at the end now, ladies and gentlemen. Here come some of the gladiators and their trainers, carrying the weapons they will be fighting with today. There are the nets and the tridents, the spears and the gladii, some dressed like Greek soldiers, others dressed like Gauls".

"Oh, and here come the flower sellers, with their fresh bunches still wet with the dew that they picked this morning. And now the parade has passed, and the crowds are milling back onto the street and following them towards the games. Everyone wants to get a good seat, so I am going to hand you back over to the action that is soon to start over there. My goodness, ladies and gentlemen, if the parade was this exciting, just think how magnificent the games are going to
be. Good bye, everybody, WAH LAY TAY." And the crown responds loudly WAH LAY TAY - WAH LAY TAY - WAH LAY TAY as they troop off down the street.

Valete omnes

Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83275 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: KALENDIS MARTIIS
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodie est Kalendis Martiis; hic dies nefastus publicus est.

"Come Mars, God of War, lay aside your shield and spear:
A moment, from your helmet, free your shining hair.
What has a poet to do with Mars, you might ask?
The month I sing of takes its name from you.
You see, yourself, fierce wars waged by Minerva:
Is she less free to practice the noble arts for that?
Take time to set aside you lance and follow Pallas'
Example: and find something to do while unarmed...
`If it's right for the secret promptings of the gods
To be heard by poets, as it's rumoured they may,
Tell me, Gradivus, Marching God, why women keep
Your feast, you who are apt to be served by men.'
So I spoke. And Mars answered, laying aside his helmet,
But keeping his throwing spear in his right hand:
Now am I, a god used to warfare, invoked
In pursuit of peace, and I'm carried into new camps,
And I don't dislike it: I like to take on this function,
Lest Minerva think that she alone can do so...
Mamurius carried out the task: whether he was superior
In his craft or his character it would be hard to say.
Gracious Numa said to him: `Ask a reward for your work,
You'll not ask in vain of one known for honesty.'
He'd already given the Salii, named from their leaping (saltus),
Weapons: and words to be sung to a certain tune.
Mamurius replied: `Give me glory as my prize,
And let my name be sounded at the song's end.'
So the priests grant the reward promised for his
Ancient work, and now call out `Mamurius'." - Ovid, Fasti III

"Ares, exceeding in strength, chariot-rider, golden- helmed, doughty
in heart, shield-bearer, Saviour of cities, harnessed in bronze,
strong of arm, unwearying, mighty with the spear, O defence of
Olympus, father of warlike Victory, ally of Themis, stern governor of
the rebellious, leader of righteous men, sceptred King of manliness,
who whirl your fiery sphere among the planets in their sevenfold
courses through the aether wherein your blazing steeds ever bear you
above the third firmament of heaven; hear me, helper of men, giver of
dauntless youth! Shed down a kindly ray from above upon my life, and
strength of war, that I may be able to drive away bitter cowardice
from my head and crush down the deceitful impulses of my soul.
Restrain also the keen fury of my heart which provokes me to tread the
ways of blood-curdling strife. Rather, O blessed one, give you me
boldness to abide within the harmless laws of peace, avoiding strife
and hatred and the violent fiends of death." - Homer, Ode to Ares II.1-17

The month of Martias is dedicated to the god of war, Mars, both in his
aspect as Mars Quirinus, the Protector of the Roman People and Mars
Gravidus, the leader of the Romans at war. Mars was the son of Iuno,
Iuppiter's wife. Iuppiter had given rise to the goddess Minerva by
birthing her through his head. Iuno was jealous of this event, and
asked the goddess Flora to help her in the task of creating a son.
Flora, the goddess of blossoming plants touched Juno with magical
herbs and created Mars in her womb.

Mars raped the vestal virgin Rhea Silvia while she slept, she gave
birth to twins called Romulus and Remus. Rhea was imprisoned because
of the sacred laws of her vows, and her sons were left in baskets on
the river. They were brought up by wolves and eventually founded Rome.
Mars was often depicted riding a two-horse chariot, with a spear and
a shield, both items with magical properties. His shield in particular
was an important object and symbol for the Romans, according to legend
one is said to have fallen from the sky to save the Romans during
battle. Sacred shields were kept in the temples of Mars and the one
alleged to have fallen from the sky was reserved for the Forum, where
it was said to guard Rome from attack.

Primarily Mars was invoked for battle and all things associated with
war. For obvious reasons he was a favorite among soldiers in the Roman
army.


"Girl if you'd marry, delay, however eager both are:
A little delay, at this time, is of great advantage.
Weapons excite to war, war's bad for those married:
The omens will be better when weapons are put away.
Now the girded wife of the peak-capped Flamen Dialis
Has to keep her hair free from the comb." - Ovid, Fasti III

Today is also the celebration of the Matronalia, a feast dedicated to
matrons and their special Protectress, Iuno in her aspect as Iuno
Lucina, the "light bringer". Iuno Lucina was an aspect of the goddess
Iuno associated with light and childbirth. Her name lucina probably
comes from the Latin lucus (grove). Livy records that the grove on the
Esquiline Hill in which a temple was dedicated to her in 375 B.C., is
the origin of her name.

By the second century B.C., Iuno Lucina was associated with childbirth
because the name lucina was thought to have come from the Latin word
lux (light). When a child was born it was said to have been "brought
to light." Women who worshiped Iuno Lucina had to untie knots and
unbraid their hair lest lest these entanglements symbolically block
delivery.

From the many reasons which Ovid gives why the festival was kept on
this day, it is evident that there was no certain tradition on the
subject; but the prevailing opinion seems to have been that it was
instituted in memory of the peace between the Romans and the Sabines,
which was brought about by means of the Sabine women. At this festival
wives used to receive presents from their husbands, and at a later
time girls from their lovers; mistresses also were accustomed to feast
their female slaves.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83276 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - New characters in Rome
Salvete omnes

I have been getting reports of two characters who are attracting quite a bit of attention in Rome during these Ludi.

One is a much decorated Centurion, and the other is his companion who comes from the wild paths beyond our roads.

I haven't met them yet, but I have just heard that they will probably be in the tavern that is called the Eagle this evening.

I'm going to go along there and check them out. They sound interesting, so I shall bring you a report later on today.

Until then, this is your reporter signing off for the moment.

Valete omnes
Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83277 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Create a gladiator and enter it in the games now!
Salvete omnes!

Create a Gladiator and enter him or her in the Ludi Novi Romani now!
The games start on March 3rd so I need your entry right away.
Send your entry to m.pompeius@...
A gladiator is easy to create. The basic information, like that shown below, is
all that is required to compete:

Your Name:  Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Gladiator's Name: Ahala
Gender:  Male
Age:  28
Height:  5' 9"
Weight:  180lbs
Class/Type:  Dimachaerus
Tactics:  Blitz
Ludus (Faction):  Veneta
 
If you have any questions, let me know.
For complete rules, just send an email to me at m.pompeius@... anytime.

Optime valete!

 
M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83278 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Giving Nova Roma birthday greetings! Felicem Diem Natalem Novae Romae!


Here are the first set of questions for the Roman Mythology Quiz, this was
something that was created specifically by me so that my fellow citizens
would have something different this year.

The rules are very simple: 3 points are given to each answer given
completely correct, The top 3 will be announced, the winner with the most
points wins a prize...

All daily answers must be sent to this e-mail address
MusesDream@... header : "Mythology Trivium"..


Gratias & Bona Fortuna!



*Roman Mythology Quiz Dies 1*

Mars (Dies 1)

1. Who was the Consort of Mars? And what was her name?
2. What was the name of the Priesthood that Mars was called upon to drive
off rust?
3. Which two animals were sacred to Mars?

Concordia (Dies 1)
1. Which pair of Deities was Concordia associated with?
2. Which Aedile erected a Bronze Shrine to Concordia in 304 B.C?
3. In the city of Pompeii which Priestess dedicated a temple to Concordia
Augusta?


Iuppiter (Dies 1)
1. Give Definition to the following four aspects of Iuppiter
a. Jupiter Caelestis
b. Jupiter Optimus Maximus
c. Jupiter Tonans
d. Jupiter Taranis

2. What are the words to Iuppiters� Oath in Latin?
3. Name three demigods Fathered by Iuppiter?



Vale Optime,
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83279 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 1 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

The Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC has begun!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be
posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time (Central
European Time or GMT +1) on the day the questions are posted.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:50 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne

See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

Here are the questions for 1 March 2764 - Day 1 of the ludi:

1. In the earliest Roman army, how many infantry were commanded by a tribunus
militum?

2. Who was the consul of 97 BC who, after traversing Lusitania from end to
end, occupied the harbour of Brigantium in the northwest of Spain?

3. One citizen of Nova Roma who served as Consul, Censor, Senator and Pontifex
resigned citizenship on more than one occasion. Who is this citizen and on what
date did this citizen first resign citizenship?

For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83280 From: Cn. Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Caesar sal

Someone on FH asked for clarification of the email address to submit entries to, so to save time here - it is:

MusesDream @ gmail DOT com

Optime valete


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
>
> Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.
>
>
> Giving Nova Roma birthday greetings! Felicem Diem Natalem Novae Romae!
>
>
> Here are the first set of questions for the Roman Mythology Quiz, this was
> something that was created specifically by me so that my fellow citizens
> would have something different this year.
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83281 From: Sabinus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Kalendae Martiae: Feriae Marti, Matronalia, Iuno Lucina, Sacrum Iuno
SALVETE!

Hodie est Kalendae Martias; haec dies nefastus est: Feriae Martiae, Matronalia, Iuno Lucina, Sacrum Iunonis Covellae.

Tertium decimum annum anniversum Novae Romae bonum faustum felicem!

Feriae Martiae:

"Come Mars, God of War, lay aside your shield and spear:
A moment, from your helmet, free your shining hair."
[Â….]
If it's right for the secret promptings of the gods
To be heard by poets, as it's rumored they may,
Tell me, Gradivus, Marching God, why women keep
Your feast, you who are apt to be served by men.'
So I spoke. And Mars answered, laying aside his helmet,
But keeping his throwing spear in his right hand:
Now am I, a god used to warfare, invoked
In pursuit of peace, and I'm carried into new camps,
And I don't dislike it: I like to take on this function,
Lest Minerva think that she alone can do so.
Have what you seek, laboring poet of Latin days,
And inscribe my words in your memory.
Rome was little, if you wish to trace its first beginnings,
But still in that little, there was hope of all this.
The walls already stood, too cramped for its future people,
But then thought too large for its populace.
If you ask where my son's palace was,
See there, that house made of straw and reeds.
He snatched the gifts of peaceful sleep on straw,
Yet from that same low bed he rose to the stars.
Already the Roman's name extended beyond his city,
Though he possessed neither wife nor father-in-law.
Wealthy neighbors rejected poor sons-in-law,
And hardly thought I was the origin of the race.
It harmed the Romans that they lived in cattle-byres,
Grazed sheep, and owned a few acres of poor soil.
Birds and beasts each mate with their own kind,
And even a snake has another with which to breed:
Rights of intermarriage are granted to distant peoples:
Yet none wished to marry with the Romans.
[Poetry translation: A.S. Kline: Ovid – Fasti, Book III, Introduction & March 1]

Matronalia.

Matronalia is the Roman equivalent of Mothers' Day and during this day special attention was paid to Juno Lucina, the goddess of childbirth and of motherhood and women in general.
The date of the festival was associated with the dedication of a temple to Juno Lucina on the Esquiline Hill and possibly also a commemoration of the peace between the Romans and the Sabines.

Dedication of the Temple of Iuno Lucina on the Esquiline Hill - 378 a.U.c/375 BC.

To Iuno Lucina a temple was built in 375 BC, in a grove that had been consecrated to the goddess from very early times.

"Romae vero lotos in Lucinae area, anno, qui fuit sine magistratibus, CCCLXXIX urbis aede condita. incertum, ipsa quanto vetustior; esse quidem vetustiorem non est dubium, cum ab eo luco Lucina nominetur. haec nunc D circiter annum habet. antiquior, sed incerta eius aetas, quae capillata dicitur, quoniam Vestalium virginum capillus ad eam defertur."
[Lacus Curtius – Pliny, Liber XVI, 235]

"A grove below the Esquiline Hill, untouched
For many years, was sacred to great Juno.
When they had gathered there, husbands and wives
Bowed their knees, alike, in supplication,
And suddenly the tree tops moved and trembled,
And the goddess spoke strange words in her grove:
`Let the sacred he-goat pierce the Italian wives'.
The crowd stood, terrified, at the troubling words.
There was an augur (his name is lost with the years,
But he had lately arrived, an exile from Tuscany),
He killed a he-goat and, at his command, the wives
Offered their backs, to be beaten by thongs from its hide.
When the moon renewed her horns in her tenth orbit,
The husband became a father, and the wife a mother.
Thanks be to Lucina! Goddess you took that name
From the grove (lucus), or as yours is the source of light (lucis).
Gracious Lucina, spare women heavy with child, I beg you,
And bring the ripe burden tenderly from the womb."
[Poetry translation: A.S. Kline: Ovid – Fasti, Book II, February 15]

This day, capite velato, I have invoked Iuno Covella on the 7th day by saying the traditional formula:

"Die Septimi te kalo Iuno Covella"

I offered incense and saying prayers I asked the Goddess to be favorable toward us, the entire Nova Roman community.

The festivals to be celebrated in the month of March shall be:

1 NP Kalendae, Feriae Marti, Matronalia, Iuno Lucina.
2 F Dies ater, Feriae Marti.
3 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
4 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
5 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
6 C Nundina, religious, Feriae Marti.
7 F Nonae, religiosus, Feriae Marti.
8 F Dies ater, Feriae Marti.
9 C Religiosus, Arma movere Ancilla, Feriae Marti.
10 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
11 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
12 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
13 EN Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
14 NP Nundina, religiosus, Equirria, Feriae Marti.
15 NP Idibus, religiosus, : Feriae Iovi, Feriae Annae Perennae, Feriae Marti.
16 F Dies ater, Argei
17 NP Religiosus, Agonium Martiale, Feriae Marti.
18 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
19 NP Religiosus, Quinquatrus, Feriae Marti.
20 C Religiosus, Feriae Martis.
21 C Religiosus, Feriae Marti.
22 N Nundina, religious, Feriae Marti.
23 NP Religiosus, Tubilustrium, Feriae Marti.
24 QRCF Feriae Marti.
25 C
26 C
27 C
28 C
29 C
30 C Nundina.
31 C

At the end I poured a libation of honeyed milk thanking to the Goddess for Her benevolence.

In addition I want to point out today is Concordialia Novae Romae, feriae imperativae. It is a Nova Roman holiday approved by the Nova Roman Senate.
Today, too, the ludi Novi Romani begin.

VALETE,
Sabinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83282 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Aeternia Caesari Omnibusque sal:


Gratias Caesar!


Btw, just in case for those super excited Trivia folks (huzzah!), please
remember to submit your answers privately.. No posting answers on the list,
that goes for all of the Quizzes we'll be having during this Ludi.


Thank you again for your attention in this matter, now continue with the
celebrating!


Vale Optime,
Aeternia

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Cn. Iulius Caesar <
gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:

>
>
> Caesar sal
>
> Someone on FH asked for clarification of the email address to submit
> entries to, so to save time here - it is:
>
> MusesDream @ gmail DOT com
>
> Optime valete
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.
> >
> >
> > Giving Nova Roma birthday greetings! Felicem Diem Natalem Novae Romae!
> >
> >
> > Here are the first set of questions for the Roman Mythology Quiz, this
> was
> > something that was created specifically by me so that my fellow citizens
> > would have something different this year.
> >
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83283 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Still to Come....
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Ave! We have had a busy opening to the Ludi so far woohoo!


There's still more to come...


The Concordialia Ritual performed by Pontifex Cn. Cornelius Lentulus (*snaps
kudos*)
Followed by the Honored Deities of the Day,

The first ever Triclinium Chat..

These activities will be occurring throughout the remainder of the day.


And who knows maybe we can get some of the other Magistrates to sing Happy
Birthday to Nova Roma (lol) it's the Ludi anything can happen!


Vale Optime,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83285 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Support my Gladiatorial entries !!!!!
Salvete Romans!

I would like to invite all my friends to join me at the arena to support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.

Fighting for the Ludus Veneta, in the Murmillo style, standing 5'11" tall and weighing in at a hard 187 lbs
is the unyielding, the barbarous, the savage, the pride of Picenum, and the glorification of Aventine,

Priscus!!!!!!

Joining Priscus in Fighting for the Ludus Veneta, in the Secutor style, the hero of Viminal Hill,
standing 5'9" tall and weighing in at a solid 179 lbs is the spirited, the hard-nosed, the monstrous, the brutal,

Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83286 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: ANSWERS to - Re: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythol
Statia Cornelia Juliana Aeternia Ti. Marcio Quadrae sal:


Okay.

I did request that these answers be submitted privately, so if you could
re-send these answers to the following e-mail address:
MusesDream@... phoenetically MusesDream AT sign gmail DOT com.
it would be much
appreciated...


My apologies if my tone appears harsh it isn't, but you know how e-mail
communication is sometimes...

Vale Optime,
Aeternia




On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Robin Marquardt <remarq777@...>wrote:

>
>
> Tiberius Marcius Quadra
> *Roman Mythology Quiz Dies 1*
>
> Mars (Dies 1)
> 1. Who was the Consort of Mars? And what was her name? Venus
> 2. What was the name of the Priesthood that Mars was called upon to drive
> off rust? Arval Fratelli
> 3. Which two animals were sacred to Mars? Woodpecker and the Wolf
>
> Concordia (Dies 1)
> 1. Which pair of Deities was Concordia associated with? Fides and Fortuna
> (pair of hands �patera and a cornucopia)
> 2. Which Aedile erected a Bronze Shrine to Concordia in 304 B.C? Cn.
> Flavius
> 3. In the city of Pompeii which Priestess dedicated a temple to Concordia
> Augusta? Eumachia
>
> Iuppiter (Dies 1)
> 1. Give Definition to the following four aspects of Iuppiter
> a. Jupiter Caelestis Heavenly
> b. Jupiter Optimus Maximus Best and Greatest
> c. Jupiter Tonans Thundering
> d. Jupiter Taranis Thunder
>
> 2. What are the words to Iuppiters� Oath in Latin? Si sciens fallo, tum me
> Dispiter salva urbe arceque bonis eiciat ut ego hunc lapidem.
> 3. Name three demigods Fathered by Iuppiter? Hephaestus, Ares, and Hebe
> ________________________________
> From: Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...>
>
> To: nova-roma <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>; Nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 2:39:33 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
> Dies
> 1
>
> Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.
>
> Giving Nova Roma birthday greetings! Felicem Diem Natalem Novae Romae!
>
> Here are the first set of questions for the Roman Mythology Quiz, this was
> something that was created specifically by me so that my fellow citizens
> would have something different this year.
>
> The rules are very simple: 3 points are given to each answer given
> completely correct, The top 3 will be announced, the winner with the most
> points wins a prize...
>
> All daily answers must be sent to this e-mail address
> MusesDream@... header : "Mythology Trivium"..
>
> Gratias & Bona Fortuna!
>
> Vale Optime,
> Sta. Cornelia Aeternia
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83287 From: Sabinus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Sacrifice to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus.
SALVETE!

Thirteen years ago, receiving favorable auspices, Nova Roma was founded. The foundation, 2750 years after the Eternal City itself, represent an important and essential moment which transform Nova Roma in something unique which can not be substitute or replaced.

During our short and sometime tumultuous history, our Gods were here, witnessing our birth as New Romans, our actions and work to the path approved thirteen years ago.
Our duty is to continue the path, showing pietas to the Gods, with the only one major purpose of day by day improvement of our still young State. All what we need is patience.

To honor the Nova Roma foundation, our aediles and their cohorts, organized ludi Novi Romani. In their 3th year of existence ludi Novi Romani define us and I am glad to see how the mentioned ludi become, step by step, part of our history.
I want to present my thanks to aediles and their cohorts for the hard work honoring our Gods, our history and directed to the entire Nova Roman community all around the world.

Today, I performed the following ritual to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus to honor Him, to honor his past and present approval of what we are.

-----

Favete linguis!

Praefatio:

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius Populo Novo Romano Quirítibus, mihi, domo, familiae!

(Incense was placed in the focus of the altar.)

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, uti te ture commovendo bonas preces precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto!

(Libation of wine was made.)

Precatio:

Iuppiter Optime Maxime, hoc die festivissimo ludorum Novum Romanum anniversarioque tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae, te precor et quaeso:
uti Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium confirmes, augeas, adiuves;
uti gloria, virtus, fortitudoque Populi Noví Romini Quiritium hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae crescant et convalescant;
uti sis volens propitiusque consulibus nobis, et praetoribus, aedilibus, quaestoribus, tribunis plebis, senatoribus, alterisque civibus, praesentibus, mihi, domo, familiae!

Sacrificium:

(wine and incense were placed in the fire)

Quarum rerum ergo macte hoc víno libando, hoc ture ommovendo esto fíto volens propitius hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae populo Novo Romano Quiritibus, nobis, domibus, familiis!

(Libation was made and incense sacrificed)

Ilicet!

Piaculum:

Iane, Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, Concordia, Omnes Dí Immortales:
si quid vobis in hac caerimonia displicuit, hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio.

(Libation of wine was made)

-----

VALETE,
Sabinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83289 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 1 of Ludi
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

A gentle reminder, dear citizens, that all answers to questions in any of the
Ludi Novi Romani contests and quizes must be sent via PRIVATE email, not as a
reply to the forum in which the questions were posted. The quizes are not speed
contests, all people submitting answers via private email will have their scores
adjusted each day and the top scoring people will be listed in the final results
when the Ludi Novi Romani closes 13 days from today.


Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83291 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 1
Salvete,

Libero I thank you for your efforts and your willingness to participate. I
see that you did submit your answers privately to one of my e-mail accounts,
which I will accept.

If the Praetors and their staff could delete this message as well, so that
the level of fairness we the CA Cohors wish to have is maintained...

It would be greatly appreciated to all.

Valete,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83292 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Words from the Aedile (Aeternia)
Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Just so we are all incredibly very clear on these quizzes for the Ludi Novi
Romani 2764...


From this post onward...

Anyone who publically posts answers to quizzes on the ML and Forum
Hospitum... The answers will not be counted....

So again I cannot stress enough to send answers PRIVATELY (not yelling
btw)...

For Mythlogy Quiz send them MusesDream@...

Roman History send them to m.pompeius@...

The Latin quiz has not started yet, but it will up to the discretion of
Lentulus.

I do not wish to be mean about the matter, only fair...

My final say on this matter and it takes effect immediately.

Now lets continue to enjoy the Ludi celebrations!

Vale Optime,
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia --Curulis Aedilis Maior


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83293 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Gladiator Games
Salvete America Austroccidentalis!

Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.

Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage, the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!

Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a native of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs is the fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe the African.

We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras. Victory is in the hands of the Gods.


Valete

C. Petronius Africanus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83294 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Support my Gladiatorial entries !!!!!
Salvete,


GO BLUES!!!! YAY VENETA!!!


Valete,
Aeternia

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <
spqr753@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Salvete Romans!
>
> I would like to invite all my friends to join me at the arena to support my
> Gladiatorial entries for this year.
>
> Fighting for the Ludus Veneta, in the Murmillo style, standing 5'11" tall
> and weighing in at a hard 187 lbs
> is the unyielding, the barbarous, the savage, the pride of Picenum, and the
> glorification of Aventine,
>
> Priscus!!!!!!
>
> Joining Priscus in Fighting for the Ludus Veneta, in the Secutor style, the
> hero of Viminal Hill,
> standing 5'9" tall and weighing in at a solid 179 lbs is the spirited, the
> hard-nosed, the monstrous, the brutal,
>
> Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Valete
>
> Ti. Galerius Paulinus
> GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83295 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Salve,

Although it's commonly known, I am of Team Veneta..

I do wish your Gladiators good luck in the upcoming games.


Vale,
Aeternia

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:33 PM, GeorgeV <gunney1976@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete America Austroccidentalis!
>
> Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to
> support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.
>
> Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and
> weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage,
> the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!
>
> Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a
> native of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs
> is the fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe
> the African.
>
> We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.
> Victory is in the hands of the Gods.
>
> Valete
>
> C. Petronius Africanus
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83296 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Salve!
I extend my hand of fellowship and wish you well also.

Vale.
Africano





________________________________
From: Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:41:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games

Salve,

Although it's commonly known, I am of Team Veneta..

I do wish your Gladiators good luck in the upcoming games.


Vale,
Aeternia

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:33 PM, GeorgeV <gunney1976@...> wrote:

>
>
> Salvete America Austroccidentalis!
>
> Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to
> support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.
>
> Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and
> weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage,
> the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!
>
> Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a
> native of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs
> is the fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe
> the African.
>
> We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.
> Victory is in the hands of the Gods.
>
> Valete
>
> C. Petronius Africanus
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83297 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Salve Petronius Africanus,

Amice Please

Sura? Tinashe the African? You are suppose to enter Gladiators not victims or helpless targets.
I hope they have a good last meal at your expense as they will not be of this world after the Ludus Veneta and my House has its way!!!

Priscus!!!!!! Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!

Vale

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
GO Veneta !!!


To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: gunney1976@...
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games





Salvete America Austroccidentalis!

Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.

Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage, the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!

Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a native of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs is the fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe the African.

We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras. Victory is in the hands of the Gods.

Valete

C. Petronius Africanus






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83298 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Salve,

Awww thank you friendship extending back! Although as Aedile, will not be
entering the Munera or any member of the CA Cohorts, we want to remain fair
in all aspects of the Competitive Elements in any Ludi we organize. Now
Ludi Apollinares, you'll see me most definitely!


Vale,
Aeternia (Aedilis)


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:46 PM, George Vandewater <gunney1976@...>wrote:

>
>
> Salve!
> I extend my hand of fellowship and wish you well also.
>
> Vale.
> Africano
>
> ________________________________
> From: Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:41:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games
>
>
> Salve,
>
> Although it's commonly known, I am of Team Veneta..
>
> I do wish your Gladiators good luck in the upcoming games.
>
> Vale,
> Aeternia
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:33 PM, GeorgeV <gunney1976@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Salvete America Austroccidentalis!
> >
> > Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena
> to
> > support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.
> >
> > Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall
> and
> > weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the
> savage,
> > the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!
> >
> > Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a
> > native of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid
> 195lbs
> > is the fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe
> > the African.
> >
> > We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.
> > Victory is in the hands of the Gods.
> >
> > Valete
> >
> > C. Petronius Africanus
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83299 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Cn Iulius Caesar sal.

I have extended my hobbies of feeding my expensive goldfish and watching
Paulinus polish my silver (slowly I might add and not very well either), to
investing in a Gladiator, who has been trained in the style of the
Murmillo, and will fight under the colours of the Ludus Praesina.

Drest is a native of the Trinovantes tribe, from Britannia. This will be his
first appearance out of training. When purchased he wasn’t really very adept
when fitted with the equipment of the Murmillo, and tended to fall over a
lot. He was more used to fighting near naked. Gradually though he has become
fairly well adapted to this, for him, new style of combat. He is likely
addicted to some disgusting brew he concocts in his cell called “beer”,
darker than the Gallic variety and which he allows to warm in the sun. It
appears all true Britons prefer their beer this way. He consumes vast
quantities of it before a bout, and it doesn’t hamper his ability – indeed
strangely it actually seems to improve it. Again this is apparently a
feature of life for young Britons, fighting, beer, more fighting, then yet
more beer until one falls over dead, or dead drunk. He also insists on
painting himself in the tribal fashion of the Britons in a mixture of copper
and iron. The hovel that he calls home, Camulodunon, is dedicated to Camulos
which as far as one can tell through his halting attempts at conversation is
their war god. Before he was captured he was an oyster fisherman.

More than that one cannot say, because who cares as long as he fights well
and recoups the cost of the investment I made in him. If he turns out to be
a dead loss in the arena, as opposed to just dead, I can always use him in
my villa to hold the pot of polish for my silverware cleaners, assuming I
can get him associate membership in the Silver polishers guild and thereby
increase Paulinus' productivity.

Well enough of all this idle chatter, I have to go and do something useful,
such as feed my fish.

"Paulinus bring the feeding bucket and kneel down so I can rest it on you".

"Oh, yes GO PRAESINA!! And all that non-patrician type shouting and
bawling."

Optime valete


-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:50 PM
To: Nova-Roma
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games


Salve Petronius Africanus,

Amice Please

Sura? Tinashe the African? You are suppose to enter Gladiators not victims
or helpless targets.
I hope they have a good last meal at your expense as they will not be of
this world after the Ludus Veneta and my House has its way!!!

Priscus!!!!!! Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!

Vale

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
GO Veneta !!!


To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: gunney1976@...
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games





Salvete America Austroccidentalis!

Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to
support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.

Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and
weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage,
the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!

Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a native
of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs is the
fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe the
African.

We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.
Victory is in the hands of the Gods.

Valete

C. Petronius Africanus






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83300 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
My gladiators will fight for the Green. They are particularly nasty and ugly, in fact I prefer to not lay eyes on the brutes.  I purchased them at a slave action when their old Masters died. I have promised them freedom if they win and the mines if they lose.

If the make me money they will live, lose me money and instead of the mines I may have them crucified.

Titus .S.  Metellus


--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:

From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 3:39 PM







 









Cn Iulius Caesar sal.



I have extended my hobbies of feeding my expensive goldfish and watching

Paulinus polish my silver (slowly I might add and not very well either), to

investing in a Gladiator, who has been trained in the style of the

Murmillo, and will fight under the colours of the Ludus Praesina.



Drest is a native of the Trinovantes tribe, from Britannia. This will be his

first appearance out of training. When purchased he wasn’t really very adept

when fitted with the equipment of the Murmillo, and tended to fall over a

lot. He was more used to fighting near naked. Gradually though he has become

fairly well adapted to this, for him, new style of combat. He is likely

addicted to some disgusting brew he concocts in his cell called “beer”,

darker than the Gallic variety and which he allows to warm in the sun. It

appears all true Britons prefer their beer this way. He consumes vast

quantities of it before a bout, and it doesn’t hamper his ability – indeed

strangely it actually seems to improve it. Again this is apparently a

feature of life for young Britons, fighting, beer, more fighting, then yet

more beer until one falls over dead, or dead drunk. He also insists on

painting himself in the tribal fashion of the Britons in a mixture of copper

and iron. The hovel that he calls home, Camulodunon, is dedicated to Camulos

which as far as one can tell through his halting attempts at conversation is

their war god. Before he was captured he was an oyster fisherman.



More than that one cannot say, because who cares as long as he fights well

and recoups the cost of the investment I made in him. If he turns out to be

a dead loss in the arena, as opposed to just dead, I can always use him in

my villa to hold the pot of polish for my silverware cleaners, assuming I

can get him associate membership in the Silver polishers guild and thereby

increase Paulinus' productivity.



Well enough of all this idle chatter, I have to go and do something useful,

such as feed my fish.



"Paulinus bring the feeding bucket and kneel down so I can rest it on you".



"Oh, yes GO PRAESINA!! And all that non-patrician type shouting and

bawling."



Optime valete



-----Original Message-----

From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:50 PM

To: Nova-Roma

Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games



Salve Petronius Africanus,



Amice Please



Sura? Tinashe the African? You are suppose to enter Gladiators not victims

or helpless targets.

I hope they have a good last meal at your expense as they will not be of

this world after the Ludus Veneta and my House has its way!!!



Priscus!!!!!! Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!



Vale



Ti. Galerius Paulinus

GO Veneta !!!



To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

From: gunney1976@...

Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:33:02 +0000

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games



Salvete America Austroccidentalis!



Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to

support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.



Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and

weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage,

the pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!



Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a native

of Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs is the

fleet of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe the

African.



We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.

Victory is in the hands of the Gods.



Valete



C. Petronius Africanus



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83301 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Honey cakes now on sale
Salvete omnes

An extra baking of honey cakes was arranged today.

You can come and buy them now in the Forum.

Get them while they are fresh

Valete omnes

Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83302 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - THE TRICLINIUM CHAT
Salvete omnes

The heat of the day had passed over, and the crowds were heading home. A few people still remained, meeting friends and chatting about the day's events, and some had headed to one of the taverns for a final drink before going back to their homes.

At the tavern of the eagle, which had a crudely painted golden eagle over the doors, the publican was pleased to see quite a number of patrons had gathered. The younger ones sat outside, enjoying the last of the evening sun, but some of the older ones, and a few youngsters had made their way to the back room where it was peaceful and they could relax.

In the middle of the room were some couches around a small table, and, as one of the servants brought the drinks across, you could just make out parts of the conversation. Several of us moved nearer to see who was talking, and soon a little group had gathered. One of the younger ones was asking an old man about the histories they had been reading, and the older one sighed at this intrusion into his evening rest. Come on, Merlinius, (for that was the old man's name) said the younger one, you know the answer to so many things.

All right, youngster, if you will bring me and my friend some Falernian wine, we can relax and talk more comfortably. The young man looked across at Merlinius's friend, and his back stiffened when he realised that he was in the presence of a military officer. Relax, young man, said Merlinius, this is my good friend Parnesius, Centurion of the Seventh Cohort, and he is travelling with me as my companion and guide.

Once the wine had been brought over, the younger men resumed their questions. They wanted to know about the god Mars, who had been one of the deities in today's ritual. The group listened intently as Merlinius started his story.

Well, you see, said Merlinius, there have always been gods, and there always will be gods. In every country where the Eagles have marched, they have discovered new gods, but all of them go back to the very beginnings of time. Those you worship today in Rome have a special relationship with the people of Rome, and Mars played a special part in the founding of the city. Do you remember the story of Romulus and Remus? They were the sons of Mars, There are many stories about the birth of Rome, but this is the one the Romans themselves tell, so this is the one you should learn about.

Merlinius tasted his wine, and found that it was good. He liked the tavern of the eagle, and they looked after him with good wine. Merlinius relaxed a little, and continued his story.

Before there was such a place as Rome, the kings of Alba had reigned over the area since the days of Aeneas, and at last the ruler of the kingdom had to be decided between two brothers, Numitor and Amulius. Numitor, took the kingdom from Amulius with great ease, but, fearing lest Amulius's daughter might have children, made her a Vestal, bound in that condition forever to live a single and maiden life. This lady some call Ilia, others Rhea, and others Silvia; however, not long after, she was, contrary to the established laws of the Vestals, discovered to be with child,

Now, Mars, who had appeared before her in a temple, was believed to be the father. As a vestal, she should have suffered the most cruel punishment. You know what that was? – she would be buried alive. However, she was confined, and kept from all company, that she might not be delivered without the king's knowledge. In time she brought forth two boys, of more than human size and beauty, whom Amulius, becoming yet more alarmed, commanded a servant to take and cast away.

The servant recognised that the children were more than human, so he put them in a basket and. went towards the river with a design to cast them in. But the gods intervened, for, seeing the waters much swollen and coming violently down, the servant was afraid to go nearer, and dropping the children near the bank, went away.

The river overflowing, the flood at last picked up the basket, and, gently wafting it along on the current, landed them on a smooth piece of ground, which they now called Cermanus, which signifies brothers.

Merlinius took a long gulp of his wine, and the little group, which had been growing larger, shuffled round impatiently. When they had stopped fidgeting, he continued.

Near this place grew a wild fig-tree, which they called Ruminalis, from the suckling of these children there. While the infants lay here, history tells us, a she-wolf nursed them, and a woodpecker constantly fed and watched them. Now, in addition to their miraculous survival, this is what is so strange about the story. Can you imagine a she-wolf, who was called Luperca, and the woodpecker working together to save the twins? Both these creatures the Latins still especially worship and honour. The she-wolf is held as an emblem of Rome, so much so that Romans will sometimes be called the she-wolf's litter.

Just think of how many wonderful and unexplained things happened during this story. Mars is the father of the twin boys, who are thrown into the Tiber, which you know as the river deity Tiberinus, and to whom you pray as Father Tiber. The river makes the basket catch in the roots of a fig tree that grows in the Velabrum swamp at the base of the Palatine Hill. The twins are found and suckled by a she-wolf and fed by a woodpecker.

After that, a shepherd of Amulius named Faustulus discovered them and took them to his hut, where he and his wife Acca Larentia raised them as their own children.

You know that Romulus goes on to found Rome. So Rome was founded by the son of the god Mars. But do you know about his death? No? Then I shall tell you. Merlinius took another deep drink at his wine, and continued his story.

Some say that the people eventually grew tired of Romulus, and no longer wanted him to be their King. The story goes that he was taken up to the heavens in his arms and vestments, and they heard him cry out that they should hereafter style him by the name of Quirinus. A few voices in the crowd that was watching these events began to proclaim Romulus's divinity; the cry was taken up, and at last every man present hailed him as a god and son of a god, and prayed to him to be forever gracious and to protect his children.

The voice of Romulus came down from the skies, and these are the very words that he was clearly heard to say:- Go and tell the Romans that by heaven's will my Rome shall be capital of the world. Let them learn to be soldiers. Let them know, and teach their children, that no power on earth can stand against Roman arms. Having spoken these words, Romulus was taken up into the sky

At this part, which was his favourite, Parnesius slapped the table and grunted his approval. Merlinius smiled back at his friend, and finished his story with a final line.

Now, when I tell you that Quirinus was originally a war god of the Sabines, you can see how the whole story goes back to Mars, the war god of Rome. And that is why it was right that we should honour Mars today.

The group leaned back on their couches, relishing the story, and feeling proud to be Romans, warriors and the sons of gods. Some had heard the tale before, some had heard different versions, but they seemed to like the way Merlinius told it. The jugs of wine were now empty, and the story was done.

Parnesius, who had heard it all many times before, and who was nodding quietly, looked into the street and saw how dark it was getting. Come on, old fellow, he said, that's enough for tonight. Its time for the evening watch, and we must be getting on our way.

Merlinius drew his cloak around him, put on his large and floppy hat that always accompanied him, leaned on his long cane, and off they went into the night.

Valete omnes
Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83303 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - THE TRICLINIUM CHAT (A Brief Introductio
Aeternia Crispo Omnibusque S.P.D.

Thank you Crispe!

If anyone is wondering what on earth could possibly be a Triclinium chat?
Well it's something I came up with and along with the help of the CA Cohorts
(aka "The Happy Bees") it took shape and a foundation. Long ago when I was
younger elf my late Gran used to tell me stories of her childhood growing up
in the Caribbean. In her household there was only a radio, television had
not even been invented back then. My Gran and the rest of the household
would gather around the fire and listen to news and radio shows on radio
every night.

This gave me the initial idea, why not have a Taverna take away most of the
seedier elements that were around the time period of Ancient Roma, get a few
storytellers and see what happens. So Merlinius is not the only story
teller you will see grace "The Eagle" there will be others, who and how many
well we'll keep that a surprise for the time being..

I know this is the first something like this has been done for a Ludi, but
we do hope you enjoy the stories.

Vale quam Optime,
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia (Aedilis Curulis)


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83304 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Salve Galerius Paulinus

You bellow like a bull going to the slaughter. We will see what the gods and a
strong arm can decide. I hope Priscus and Verus had made their homage to their
gods for they will meet them soon.

Vale

C. Petronius Africanus

Go White!!!




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From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...>
To: Nova-Roma <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:50:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games


Salve Petronius Africanus,

Amice Please

Sura? Tinashe the African? You are suppose to enter Gladiators not victims or
helpless targets.

I hope they have a good last meal at your expense as they will not be of this
world after the Ludus Veneta and my House has its way!!!

Priscus!!!!!! Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!

Vale

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
GO Veneta !!!


To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: gunney1976@...
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games





Salvete America Austroccidentalis!

Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to
support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.

Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and
weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage, the
pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!

Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a native of
Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs is the fleet
of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe the African.


We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.
Victory is in the hands of the Gods.

Valete

C. Petronius Africanus






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83305 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: After every Kalends, Nones, Ides, the next day is "Ater", 3/2/2011,
Reminder from:   Nova-Roma Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   After every Kalends, Nones, Ides, the next day is "Ater"
 
Date:   Wednesday March 2, 2011
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every month.
Notes:   Ater (unlucky)
*Gods or Goddesses should not be invoked by name while indoors, and no celestial God or Goddess should be invoked by name while outdoors.
*Sacrifices should not be made, even at the lararium.
*These days are ill-omened to begin any new project since any new project would necessarily begin by performing a rite calling for the assistance of the gods. Such religious rites, beginning something new, are not to be performed.
*Avoid making journeys, or doing anything risky.
 
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83306 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 12th Anniversary of Nova Roma
CN CORNELIUS LENTULUS : PONTIFEX : SACERDOS CONCORDIAE : QUIRITIBUS : S P D


Salvete et avete, Novi Romani Quirites!


Vivat Nova Roma invicta!
Hail to Nova Roma, invincible! 


This
day is when everything started - this is why we can be here:
today, 13 years ago, Nova Roma was founded, the New Roman Nation was born. Tomorrow the 14th year of Nova Roma will start.

It has been a while that I came to this forum with a speech in my official capacity as Sacerdos Concordiae. There was little place to Concord in the last times. We have left a very difficult year behind us. Many, many of us have lost our friends due to the infightings in Nova Roma. A separatist group has formed, and it swallowed some of our noblest and best Romans. But we are STILL here, Nova Roma lives! Nova Roma celebrates its 13th birthday today, people are working for Nova Roma, and I dare to say it: YES, I still believe! I believe Nova Roma will triumph, because the Gods are with us, and Concordia will bless us.

Our Roman nation wants one common goal: to restore the Roman Republic. We have
to work twice as hard than ever: cooperatively, with united force, in common spirit,
with one will and one faith. If we do our best, maybe those citizens who exiled themselves into the separatist group will come back one day.

This why we worship Goddes
Concordia as the Patron Goddess of Nova Roma, the Goddess of the Nova Roman People's Concord - She is whom
we need first and foremost in this 13-years-old Republic: to re-unite all Romans in one Nation, in one true entity: in Nova Roma --to re-unite again all of us: those who departed, and those who remained loyal.

TODAY I
performed the ceremony for the 13th Anniversary of the founding of our
Republic with the assistance of T. Popillia Laenas. We celebrated
together representing all Nova Romans,

We sacrificed milk, wine, incense,and 13 libums, representing our 13 years, to Concordia for protecting Nova Roma, and for Her citizens.

The sacrifice and ceremony has been this in which we included Mars as his feriae is
today:


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1. SACRIFICE TO CONCORDIA POPULI NOVI ROMANI QUIRITIUM


Favete linguis!

(Beginning of the sacrifice.)

PRAEFATIO

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,
hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo Novae Romae conditae,
te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitia Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus, Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium, mihi, domo, familiae!

(Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.)

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani
Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte lacte inferio esto!"

(Libation of milk is made.)

PRECATIO

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
fortitudo et firmitas nostra,
hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,
hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo quo Nova Roma condita est,
te precor, veneror, quaesoque obtestorque:
uti pacem concordiamque constantem societati Novae Romae tribuas;
utique Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium confirmes, augeas, adiuves,
omnibusque discordiis liberes;
utique Res Publica Populi Novi Romani Quiritium
semper floreat;
atque hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae convalescat;
atque pax et concordia, salus et gloria Novae Romae omni tempore crescat,
utique omnes qui se Romanos nominant unifices,
unum populum unamque gentem omnes qui se Romanos nominant facias,
unum populum in Nova Roma omnes Romanos hodiernos colligas;
utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae
omnes in hoc anno quarto decimo Novae Romae eventus bonos faustosque esse siris; utique sies volens propitia
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulieribus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

SACRIFICIUM

Sicut verba nuncupavi,
quaeque ita faxis,
uti ego me sentio dicere:
harum rerum ergo macte
his tribus libis libandis,
hoc vino lacte melleque mixto libando,
hoc ture ommovendo
his laureis sacrificandis
esto
fito volens propitia
et hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae et semper
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulierbus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

(Libation of 3 liba, laurels, and wine, milk and honey is made and incense is sacrificed.)

REDDITIO

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo et vino libando bonas preces bene precatus sum, earundem rerum ergo macte lacte inferio esto!

(Libation of milk is made)

Mars
Pater,
cuius mensis et feriae hodie sunt,

earundem rerum ergo,

macte vino inferio esto fito volens propitius

Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,

Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium!


(Libation of wine is made)



Ilicet!


(End of the sacrifice.)

PIACULUM

Iane,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Iuppiter Optime Maxmime,
Iuno, Minerva, Mars,
Omnes Di Immortales quocumque nomine:
si quidquam vobis in hac caerimonia displicet,
hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio.

(Libation of wine is made.)


VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII !!!
NOVA ROMA XIII !!!


Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
P O N T I F E X
SACERDOS CONCORDIAE




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83307 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma
CN CORNELIUS LENTULUS : PONTIFEX : SACERDOS CONCORDIAE : QUIRITIBUS : S P D


Salvete et avete, Novi Romani Quirites!


Vivat Nova Roma invicta!
Hail to Nova Roma, invincible!


This day is when everything started - this is why we can be here: today, 13 years ago, Nova Roma was founded, the New Roman Nation was born. Tomorrow the 14th year of Nova Roma will start.

It has been a while that I came to this forum with a speech in my official capacity as Sacerdos Concordiae. There was little place to Concord in the last times. We have left a very difficult year behind us. Many, many of us have lost our friends due to the infightings in Nova Roma. A separatist group has formed, and it swallowed some of our noblest and best Romans. But we are STILL here, Nova Roma lives! Nova Roma celebrates its 13th birthday today, people are working for Nova Roma, and I dare to say it: YES, I still believe! I believe Nova Roma will triumph, because the Gods are with us, and Concordia will bless us.

Our Roman nation wants one common goal: to restore the Roman Republic. We have to work twice as hard than ever: cooperatively, with united force, in common spirit, with one will and one faith. If we do our best, maybe those citizens who exiled themselves into the separatist group will come back one day.

This why we worship Goddes Concordia as the Patron Goddess of Nova Roma, the Goddess of the Nova Roman People's Concord - She is whom we need first and foremost in this 13-years-old Republic: to re-unite all Romans in one Nation, in one true entity: in Nova Roma --to re-unite again all of us: those who departed, and those who remained loyal.

TODAY I performed the ceremony for the 13th Anniversary of the founding of our Republic with the assistance of T. Popillia Laenas. We celebrated together representing all Nova Romans,

We sacrificed milk, wine, incense,and 13 libums, representing our 13 years, to Concordia for protecting Nova Roma, and for Her citizens.

The sacrifice and ceremony has been this in which we included Mars as his feriae is today:


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1. SACRIFICE TO CONCORDIA POPULI NOVI ROMANI QUIRITIUM


Favete linguis!

(Beginning of the sacrifice.)

PRAEFATIO

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,
hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo Novae Romae conditae,
te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitia Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus, Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium, mihi, domo, familiae!

(Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.)

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte lacte inferio esto!"

(Libation of milk is made.)

PRECATIO

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
fortitudo et firmitas nostra,
hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,
hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo quo Nova Roma condita est,
te precor, veneror, quaesoque obtestorque:
uti pacem concordiamque constantem societati Novae Romae tribuas;
utique Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium confirmes, augeas, adiuves,
omnibusque discordiis liberes;
utique Res Publica Populi Novi Romani Quiritium semper floreat;
atque hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae convalescat;
atque pax et concordia, salus et gloria Novae Romae omni tempore crescat,
utique omnes qui se Romanos nominant unifices,
unum populum unamque gentem omnes qui se Romanos nominant facias,
unum populum in Nova Roma omnes Romanos hodiernos colligas;
utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae
omnes in hoc anno quarto decimo Novae Romae eventus bonos faustosque esse siris; utique sies volens propitia
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulieribus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

SACRIFICIUM

Sicut verba nuncupavi,
quaeque ita faxis,
uti ego me sentio dicere:
harum rerum ergo macte
his tribus libis libandis,
hoc vino lacte melleque mixto libando,
hoc ture ommovendo
his laureis sacrificandis
esto fito volens propitia
et hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae et semper
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulierbus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

(Libation of 3 liba, laurels, and wine, milk and honey is made and incense is sacrificed.)

REDDITIO

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo et vino libando bonas preces bene precatus sum, earundem rerum ergo macte lacte inferio esto!

(Libation of milk is made)

Mars Pater,
cuius mensis et feriae hodie sunt,
earundem rerum ergo,
macte vino inferio esto fito volens propitius
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium!

(Libation of wine is made)


Ilicet!

(End of the sacrifice.)

PIACULUM

Iane,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Iuppiter Optime Maxmime,
Iuno, Minerva, Mars,
Omnes Di Immortales quocumque nomine:
si quidquam vobis in hac caerimonia displicet,
hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio.

(Libation of wine is made.)


VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII !!!
NOVA ROMA XIII !!!


Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
P O N T I F E X
SACERDOS CONCORDIAE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83308 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Today we honour: MARS and CONCORDIA
Cn. Lentulus pontifex Quiritibus sal.


This day has arrived, too. Our 13th birthday. We as a community lived so much together, I feel sometimes as if our community would be five decades old - and sometimes as if it were thousands.

Isn't it ironic that Nova Roma celebrates its birthday on the day of Mars, God of War? Hence our infightings, never ending?

Isn't it paradox that we celebrate our Patron Goddess Concordia, Goddess of Peace and Agreement, on our birthday, which is actually the day of the War God?

Isn't it wonderful that such is the Roman religion, our religion? Antagonisms are always solved through sytesis. Peace is born form War, and War is always followed by Peace.

Oh, Great Goddess, Concordance, who made the ancient Roman people One and United, even in the midst of civil wars and infightings! Lend us your shining force, unite our efforts, fill our community life with joy and Romanitas, and allow us to celebrate the next Concordialia with a doubled citizenry, with government adorned with projects, plans, and real activities, bless our workers, and show to the world: Nova Roma is invincible.

You, tremendous God of War and Production, Father Mars, our great-grandfather! You are both the God of agriculture, peaceful production of goods, and the God of Bloody, Cruel War. You are a Mighty Paradoxon, and now we call you together with Concord, the sweat peace and agreement! Make our social agreement as strong as your powerful strength is, as tenacious as invincible your force is. Make Nova Roma your true son, live among us, strengthen our life and our work energies, and let us unite the whole modern Roman world, all people and groups who want the Roman nation restored.

Mars and Concordia, we worship you!
Mars and Concordia, be with us!
Mars and Concordia, with you we will triumph.

Now please answer, reflect to this thread, honoring our 13th Anniversary during the ludi Novi Romani. What are your thoughts about the connection between Mars and Concordia, regarding your personal life?
Regarding Nova Roma?
Or how do they affect your family, your community, your relationship, or your Roman activities?
Did you ever feel their presence in your work place? Or in your mind and heart?

Tell us what thoughts this post provoked fro you!

VALETE!

VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII!

Happy Concordialia!

Enjoy the Ludi Novi Romani!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83309 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma
Salvete Cn Cornelius Lentulus et avete, Novi Romani Quirites!

I too remember the early years of our Republic, the infighting and the civil
war. Having just returned after a long absence, I am grieved to see not much has
changed. I look forward to better times and pray the Goddes Concordia will look
favorably on your prayers and sacrifice.

I stand ready to help bring unity and glory back to the Republic.



Valete!
C. Petronius Africanus
America Astroccidentalis




________________________________
From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...>
To: Nova Roma ML <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>; NovaRoma-Announce
<novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com>; New Roman List <newroman@yahoogroups.com>;
Religio Romana List <ReligioRomana@yahoogroups.com>; nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 4:01:10 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma


CN CORNELIUS LENTULUS : PONTIFEX : SACERDOS CONCORDIAE : QUIRITIBUS : S P D

Salvete et avete, Novi Romani Quirites!

Vivat Nova Roma invicta!
Hail to Nova Roma, invincible!

This day is when everything started - this is why we can be here: today, 13
years ago, Nova Roma was founded, the New Roman Nation was born. Tomorrow the
14th year of Nova Roma will start.

It has been a while that I came to this forum with a speech in my official
capacity as Sacerdos Concordiae. There was little place to Concord in the last
times. We have left a very difficult year behind us. Many, many of us have lost
our friends due to the infightings in Nova Roma. A separatist group has formed,
and it swallowed some of our noblest and best Romans. But we are STILL here,
Nova Roma lives! Nova Roma celebrates its 13th birthday today, people are
working for Nova Roma, and I dare to say it: YES, I still believe! I believe
Nova Roma will triumph, because the Gods are with us, and Concordia will bless
us.

Our Roman nation wants one common goal: to restore the Roman Republic. We have
to work twice as hard than ever: cooperatively, with united force, in common
spirit, with one will and one faith. If we do our best, maybe those citizens who
exiled themselves into the separatist group will come back one day.

This why we worship Goddes Concordia as the Patron Goddess of Nova Roma, the
Goddess of the Nova Roman People's Concord - She is whom we need first and
foremost in this 13-years-old Republic: to re-unite all Romans in one Nation, in
one true entity: in Nova Roma --to re-unite again all of us: those who departed,
and those who remained loyal.

TODAY I performed the ceremony for the 13th Anniversary of the founding of our
Republic with the assistance of T. Popillia Laenas. We celebrated together
representing all Nova Romans,

We sacrificed milk, wine, incense,and 13 libums, representing our 13 years, to
Concordia for protecting Nova Roma, and for Her citizens.

The sacrifice and ceremony has been this in which we included Mars as his feriae
is today:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1. SACRIFICE TO CONCORDIA POPULI NOVI ROMANI QUIRITIUM

Favete linguis!

(Beginning of the sacrifice.)

PRAEFATIO

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,
hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo Novae Romae conditae,
te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitia Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus, Reique Publicae Populi
Novi Romani Quiritium, mihi, domo, familiae!

(Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.)

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte lacte inferio esto!"

(Libation of milk is made.)

PRECATIO

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
fortitudo et firmitas nostra,
hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,
hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo quo Nova Roma condita est,
te precor, veneror, quaesoque obtestorque:
uti pacem concordiamque constantem societati Novae Romae tribuas;
utique Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium confirmes, augeas, adiuves,
omnibusque discordiis liberes;
utique Res Publica Populi Novi Romani Quiritium semper floreat;
atque hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae convalescat;
atque pax et concordia, salus et gloria Novae Romae omni tempore crescat,
utique omnes qui se Romanos nominant unifices,
unum populum unamque gentem omnes qui se Romanos nominant facias,
unum populum in Nova Roma omnes Romanos hodiernos colligas;
utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae
omnes in hoc anno quarto decimo Novae Romae eventus bonos faustosque esse siris;
utique sies volens propitia
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulieribus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

SACRIFICIUM

Sicut verba nuncupavi,
quaeque ita faxis,
uti ego me sentio dicere:
harum rerum ergo macte
his tribus libis libandis,
hoc vino lacte melleque mixto libando,
hoc ture ommovendo
his laureis sacrificandis
esto fito volens propitia
et hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae et semper
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulierbus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

(Libation of 3 liba, laurels, and wine, milk and honey is made and incense is
sacrificed.)

REDDITIO

Dea Concordia,
Concordia Novae Romae,
Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,
Concordia deorum et mortalium,
Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo et vino libando bonas preces bene precatus sum, earundem
rerum ergo macte lacte inferio esto!

(Libation of milk is made)

Mars Pater,
cuius mensis et feriae hodie sunt,
earundem rerum ergo,
macte vino inferio esto fito volens propitius
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium!

(Libation of wine is made)

Ilicet!

(End of the sacrifice.)

PIACULUM

Iane,
Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Iuppiter Optime Maxmime,
Iuno, Minerva, Mars,
Omnes Di Immortales quocumque nomine:
si quidquam vobis in hac caerimonia displicet,
hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio.

(Libation of wine is made.)

VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII !!!
NOVA ROMA XIII !!!

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
P O N T I F E X
SACERDOS CONCORDIAE







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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83310 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 1 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 2 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be

posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time (Central
European Time or GMT +1) on the day the questions are posted.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne

See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

Here are the questions for 2 March 2764 - Day 2 of the ludi:


4. What did the Romans call the condemned criminals who were forced to fight as
gladiators?
5. Which Roman Emperor, who ruled from 193-211 AD, was from Africa?

6. On what date did a citizen announce on the Main List that the cives of
Poltava municipium had voted to dissolve their relationship with Nova Roma?
For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83311 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 2 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 2 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be


posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time (Central
European Time or GMT +1) on the day the questions are posted.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne

See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

Here are the questions for 2 March 2764 - Day 2 of the ludi:

4. What did the Romans call the condemned criminals who were forced to fight as
gladiators?
5. Which Roman Emperor, who ruled from 193-211 AD, was from Africa?

6. On what date did a citizen announce on the Main List that the cives of
Poltava municipium had voted to dissolve their relationship with Nova Roma?


For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83312 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Re: Gladiator Games
Salve Petronius Africanus,

Your still coming by for drinks and a snack before we go the Arena together, yes?

Vale

Ti. Galerius Paulinus





To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: gunney1976@...
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:40:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games






Salve Galerius Paulinus

You bellow like a bull going to the slaughter. We will see what the gods and a
strong arm can decide. I hope Priscus and Verus had made their homage to their
gods for they will meet them soon.

Vale

C. Petronius Africanus

Go White!!!

________________________________
From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...>
To: Nova-Roma <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:50:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games

Salve Petronius Africanus,

Amice Please

Sura? Tinashe the African? You are suppose to enter Gladiators not victims or
helpless targets.

I hope they have a good last meal at your expense as they will not be of this
world after the Ludus Veneta and my House has its way!!!

Priscus!!!!!! Verus the Vicious!!!!!!!!

Vale

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
GO Veneta !!!

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: gunney1976@...
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Gladiator Games

Salvete America Austroccidentalis!

Fellow citizens,I would like to invite you all s to join me at the arena to
support my Gladiatorial entries for this year.

Fighting for the Ludus Albata, in the Thraex style, standing 5'11" tall and
weighing in at a hard 220 lbs with the tenacity of a bear is the the savage, the
pride of Gerulata, and the the house of Petronius Africanus is Sura!

Joining Sura in Fighting for the Ludus Albata in the Secutor style, a native of
Shona Lands,standing 5'10" tall and weighing in at a solid 195lbs is the fleet
of feet, the hard-nosed, the brutal, and unforgiving Tinashe the African.

We had prayed and made the appropriate sacrifices to Jupiter and Mythras.
Victory is in the hands of the Gods.

Valete

C. Petronius Africanus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83313 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of The Day (Aeternia)
Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


I think I'm a bit late with posting this.. But our first entry for the
Featured Artist of the Day is well me... This piece I wrote exclusively
for the Ludi, finished it this morning.. Originally I was going to have this
for Dies 6 which is the honored day of Vesta. But on a second thought I
thought it would be more appropriate and more meaning if that day was
exclusively featuring the work of our revered beloved and dearly missed
Esteemed Vestal C. Maria Caeca..


Here is my piece, if anyone wants to be a Featured Artist of the day, please
e-mail me at MusesDream@... otherwise enjoy!



*Birth Of The Burning Empire *

*From simple hills and grasslands,
I now see glory. Looking down
from the heavens I see it. With
each foundation built tells a different
story, each stone embedded with
memory.

My fire started it, created it, nourished it.
Flames from my fingertips, the conductor
of the mighty fire. My eternal flame in
control of the symphony.

Through fire and stone, I gave divine vision to
the twins Romulus and Remus. My central
hearth this empires shield. It's guardian
the fire mother.

From the beginning I watched an empire
grow, it's rise and it's fall, it's now rebirth.
Again protected by my fiery shield, the
phoenix rises above the ashes.*

*© 2764 Statia.Cornelia Aeternia
*

Valete.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83314 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Still time for Gladiator entries
Since I only have about 10 gladiators right now, I am keeping the tournament
registration open for another day. For this edition of the games, you DO NOT
need to register with your lanista before registering with me. Please send
entries to m.pompeius@... using the following template:



Your Name:

Gladiator's Name:

Gender:

Age:

Height:

Weight:
Class/Type:

Tactics:

Ludus (Faction):

See the rules page to select a Class and Tactics for your gladiator:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV/Munera_Rules

More detail is always welcome. See the submission from Praetor Gn. Iulius
Caesar or take a look at the rules page for some ideas.


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83315 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-01
Subject: Retiarii needed for the Munera
We need some Retiarii (net-fighters) for the Munera Gladiatoria. Anyone who
wants to submit a Retiarius is welcome to do so, even if you have already
submitted two entries.


The format for entries is:

Your Name:

Gladiator's Name:

Gender:

Age:

Height:

Weight:

Class/Type:

Tactics:

Ludus (Faction):

The rules have changed so be sure to check the rules page to select a Class and
Tactics for your gladiator:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV/Munera_Rules


You do not need to register with your faction or lanista. It appears that most
of the gladiator schools have no lanista at the moment.



M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83316 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 2
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Here are the second set of questions for the mythology quiz. Please
remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw) with
the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@... or
phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.


Today these are bonus questions, so this set will be worth 4 pts if
completely answered correctly.

Again send them private e-mail.

Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!


*Pluto (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
1. What are the names of the Five Rivers of Hades? And what are their
meanings?
2. Name the abode of Pluto?
3. Who were the Roman demigods of the of the Underworld?
4. How many pomegranate seeds did Prosperina eat to seal her marriage to
Pluto?

*Prosperina (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
1. Prosperina is closely associated with what ancient Fertility goddess?
2. Who was the poet who asked Prosperina to bring his wife back to the
land of the living?

Vale Optime,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83317 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Faction representation in the Munera Gladiatoria entries
Salvete omnes!

Well, I have 14 entries so far for the munera gladiatoria. I will need two more
for a Sweet 16 qualification round. This is how things stand for the factions at
the moment:

Albata:2 gladiators
Praesina:3 gladiators
Russata:1 gladiatrix (the only female combatant so far)
Veneta:6 gladiators

and 1 gladiator from an independent school.

Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83318 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of The Day Dies 2 (Aeternia)
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Ave! This is continuing our Featured Artist of the Day which is yet again
me, yes I know (trying to rally others hint hint)... Since today was
originally scheduled for giving Tribute to Pluto & Prosperina, it did not
work out that way due to mainly a Dies Ater is today. This piece was
supposed to be a joint effort by myself and C. Maria Caeca, I would write
the beginning piece and she would do the follow up piece.. This poem is
about the birth of Charon, Ferryman of the Underworld. It's one of those
types of pieces that can be interpreted in many different views... I
intend to one day complete this piece with Caeca in the joint effort that
was originally designed. So again please enjoy!



*The Longest Night

Listen to the sounds of the Wailing Wall, as my knuckles graze against
the solid stone.
I follow the wall and the sounds of sadness, intolerable pain, and
despair.
I try to keep breathing despite the awkwardness, constantly moving
forward,
not focusing on the pain that brings me almost to my knees.

Prepare yourself they told me...

How much can one prepare, when I have entered the Gates of the Dead?

Be prepared they kept saying...

With what? Have not other women who have come before me, not do the
same thing?

Give Birth.....

Except the babe in my womb has been graced by Death's hand.

As another wave of pain sweeps through me, follow the wall I must keep.
Lucina, Iuno, Diana, I implore to watch over thee!

On this darkest day.

On this longest night.

Through shadows and mist, I can hear Prosperine's voice silhouette
against the fog.

Beckoning me, offering an odd solace, as a storm surges through my
entire being, reaching for
her, reaching for anyone's hand.

Finally , making my way towards Acheron's River, where Lord Pluto gives
the final command.
The fear awashes over me as I accepted predestined fate.

My Death for his Life, for the son I shall never see.

Under the dark sun, on the longest night, I reach the fields of the
Elysium.

As the Ferryman is silently born.

**©2011 Statia Cornelia Juliana Aeternia













*


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83319 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: a.d. VI Non. Mar.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem VI Nones Martias; hic dies fastus aterque est.

"The king of the Romans, after letting a year pass, during which he
made the necessary preparations for war, resolved to lead out his army
against the city of the Fidenates. The grounds he alleged for the war
were that this people, being called upon to justify themselves in the
matter of the plot that they had formed against the Romans and Albans,
had paid no heed, but immediately taking up arms, shutting their
gates, and bringing in the allied forces of the Veientes, had openly
revolted, and that when ambassadors arrived from Rome to inquire the
reason for their revolt, they had answered that they no longer had
anything in common with the Romans since the death of Romulus, their
king, to whom they had sworn their oaths of friendship. Seizing on
these grounds for war, Tullus was not only arming his own forces, but
also sending for those of his allies. The most numerous as well as the
best auxiliary troops were brought to him from Alba by Mettius
Fufetius, and they were equipped with such splendid arms as to excel
all the other allied forces. Tullus, therefore, believing that
Mettius had been actuated by zeal and by the best motives in deciding
to take part in the war, commended him and communicated to him all his
plans. But this man, who was accused by his fellow citizens of having
mismanaged the recent war and was furthermore charged with treason, in
view of the fact that he continued in the supreme command of the city
for the third year by order of Tullus, disdaining now to hold any
longer a command that was subject to another's command or to be
subordinated rather than himself to lead, devised an abominable plot.
He sent ambassadors here and there secretly to the enemies of the
Romans while they were as yet wavering in their resolution to revolt
and encouraged them not to hesitate, promising that he himself would
join them in attacking the Romans during the battle; and these
activities and plans he kept secret from everybody. Tullus, as soon
as he had got ready his own army as well as that of his allies,
marched against the enemy and after crossing the river Anio encamped
near Fidenae. And finding a considerable army both of the Fidenates
and of their allies drawn up before the city, he lay quiet that day;
but on the next he sent for Fufetius, the Alban, and the closest of
his other friends and took counsel with them concerning the best
method of conducting the war. And when all were in favour of engaging
promptly and not wasting time, he assigned them their several posts
and commands, and having fixed the next day for the battle, he
dismissed the council.

In the meantime Fufetius, the Alban — for his treachery was still a
secret to many even of his own friends — calling together the most
prominent centurions and tribunes among the Albans, addressed them as
follows:

"Tribunes and centurions, I am going to disclose to you important and
unexpected things which I have hitherto been concealing; and I beg of
you to keep them secret if you do not wish to ruin me, and to assist
me in carrying them out if you think their realization will be
advantageous. The present occasion does not permit of many words, as
the time is short; so I shall mention only the most essential matters.
I, from the time we were subordinated to the Romans up to this day,
have led a life full of sham en grief, though honoured by the king
with the supreme command, which I am now holding for the third year
and may, if I should so desire, hold as long as I live. But regarding
it as the greatest of all evils to be the only fortunate man in a time
of public misfortune, and taking it to heart that, contrary to all the
rights mankind look upon as sacred, we have been deprived by the
Romans of our supremacy, I took thought how we might recover it
without experiencing any great disaster. And although I considered
many plans of every sort, the only way I could discover that promised
success, and at the same time the easiest and the least dangerous one,
was in hand a war should be started against them by the neighbouring
states. For I assumed that when confronted by such a war they would
have need of allies and particularly of us. As to the next step, I
assumed that it would not require much argument to convince you that
it is more glorious as well as more fitting to fight for our liberty
than for the supremacy of the Romans. " - Dionysius of Halicarnassus
3.23, 1-8

Today is the second day of the festival of Mars.


"Remote though your farm be, It's something to be the lord of one
green lizard - and free." - Iuvenal, Satires

On March 2, A.D. 55, the Roman poet Iuvenal was born.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83320 From: Libero Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
Would it be possible to see the correct answers and have the listing of
points everyday?



Thank you!



Gallus Solaris Alexander





_____

Da: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
di Belle Morte Statia
Inviato: mercoledì 2 marzo 2011 7.10
A: nova-roma; Nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
Dies 2





Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Here are the second set of questions for the mythology quiz. Please
remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw) with
the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@...
<mailto:MusesDream%40gmail.com> or
phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.

Today these are bonus questions, so this set will be worth 4 pts if
completely answered correctly.

Again send them private e-mail.

Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!

*Pluto (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
1. What are the names of the Five Rivers of Hades? And what are their
meanings?
2. Name the abode of Pluto?
3. Who were the Roman demigods of the of the Underworld?
4. How many pomegranate seeds did Prosperina eat to seal her marriage to
Pluto?

*Prosperina (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
1. Prosperina is closely associated with what ancient Fertility goddess?
2. Who was the poet who asked Prosperina to bring his wife back to the
land of the living?

Vale Optime,
Aeternia

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83321 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Quest
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Alexandro quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> Would it be possible to see the correct answers and have the listing of
> points everyday?
>
> ATS: Generally the correct answers are not given until the end of the
> competition; people live in various time zones, and accordingly send in their
> answers at different times as they have the opportunity. I believe that this
> competition allows correct answers up to the end, rather than limiting them to
> just one day per question, so for that you must wait. Often, however, the
> ranks are provided on a daily basis.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Gallus Solaris Alexander
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
> _____
>
> Da: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ] Per
> conto
> di Belle Morte Statia
> Inviato: mercoledì 2 marzo 2011 7.10
> A: nova-roma; Nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova_roma_%40yahoogroups.com>
> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
> Dies 2
>
> Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.
>
> Here are the second set of questions for the mythology quiz. Please
> remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw) with
> the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@...
> <mailto:MusesDream%40gmail.com>
> <mailto:MusesDream%40gmail.com> or
> phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.
>
> Today these are bonus questions, so this set will be worth 4 pts if
> completely answered correctly.
>
> Again send them private e-mail.
>
> Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!
>
> *Pluto (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
> 1. What are the names of the Five Rivers of Hades? And what are their
> meanings?
> 2. Name the abode of Pluto?
> 3. Who were the Roman demigods of the of the Underworld?
> 4. How many pomegranate seeds did Prosperina eat to seal her marriage to
> Pluto?
>
> *Prosperina (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
> 1. Prosperina is closely associated with what ancient Fertility goddess?
> 2. Who was the poet who asked Prosperina to bring his wife back to the
> land of the living?
>
> Vale Optime,
> Aeternia




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83322 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 2
Salve,

Magistra Scholastica is absolutely correct in what she has said. Since
this Ludi is 13 days long, I will post in the middle section of this Ludi
regarding pts, we are only on the second day of it.


Btw, I encourage everyone especially the participants to look at the
mythology quiz rules on the wiki page ..


http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV


Vale,
Aeternia


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Libero <sa-mann@...> wrote:

>
>
> Would it be possible to see the correct answers and have the listing of
> points everyday?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Gallus Solaris Alexander
>
> _____
>
> Da: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
> di Belle Morte Statia
> Inviato: mercoled� 2 marzo 2011 7.10
> A: nova-roma; Nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com
> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
> Dies 2
>
>
> Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.
>
> Here are the second set of questions for the mythology quiz. Please
> remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw) with
> the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@...
> <mailto:MusesDream%40gmail.com> or
>
> phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.
>
> Today these are bonus questions, so this set will be worth 4 pts if
> completely answered correctly.
>
> Again send them private e-mail.
>
> Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!
>
> *Pluto (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
> 1. What are the names of the Five Rivers of Hades? And what are their
> meanings?
> 2. Name the abode of Pluto?
> 3. Who were the Roman demigods of the of the Underworld?
> 4. How many pomegranate seeds did Prosperina eat to seal her marriage to
> Pluto?
>
> *Prosperina (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
> 1. Prosperina is closely associated with what ancient Fertility goddess?
> 2. Who was the poet who asked Prosperina to bring his wife back to the
> land of the living?
>
> Vale Optime,
> Aeternia
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83323 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 2
Salve Iterum,

Just an added note and a small debriefing :-).

If anyone is wondering why I didn't go with the traditional approach of how
these quizzes are normally done for years upon years.

People do things differently, what works for some individuals, does not work
for others, it's how human nature is..

Therefore, I decided that the Mythology Quiz will have no time limits
regarding response time, exception being that all the answers be submitted
on the last day of the Ludi which is March 13th. I find this to be an
extremely fair approach because well people do have lives outside of NR and
are not constantly at their computers.

Winners will be announced on March 15th...

I hope this answers some possible questions and concerns that anyone may
have.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Vale Optime,
Statia Cornelia Aeternia (Aedilis Curulis)




On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Belle Morte Statia
<syrenslullaby@...>wrote:

> Salve,
>
> Magistra Scholastica is absolutely correct in what she has said. Since
> this Ludi is 13 days long, I will post in the middle section of this Ludi
> regarding pts, we are only on the second day of it.
>
>
> Btw, I encourage everyone especially the participants to look at the
> mythology quiz rules on the wiki page ..
>
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV
>
>
> Vale,
> Aeternia
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Libero <sa-mann@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Would it be possible to see the correct answers and have the listing of
>> points everyday?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Gallus Solaris Alexander
>>
>> _____
>>
>> Da: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Per
>> conto
>> di Belle Morte Statia
>> Inviato: mercoled� 2 marzo 2011 7.10
>> A: nova-roma; Nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com
>> Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions
>> Dies 2
>>
>>
>> Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.
>>
>> Here are the second set of questions for the mythology quiz. Please
>> remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw) with
>> the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@...
>> <mailto:MusesDream%40gmail.com> or
>>
>> phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.
>>
>> Today these are bonus questions, so this set will be worth 4 pts if
>> completely answered correctly.
>>
>> Again send them private e-mail.
>>
>> Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!
>>
>> *Pluto (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
>> 1. What are the names of the Five Rivers of Hades? And what are their
>> meanings?
>> 2. Name the abode of Pluto?
>> 3. Who were the Roman demigods of the of the Underworld?
>> 4. How many pomegranate seeds did Prosperina eat to seal her marriage to
>> Pluto?
>>
>> *Prosperina (Dies 2)--Bonus Questions*
>> 1. Prosperina is closely associated with what ancient Fertility goddess?
>> 2. Who was the poet who asked Prosperina to bring his wife back to the
>> land of the living?
>>
>> Vale Optime,
>> Aeternia
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83324 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Rules for Certamen Historicum - Finalized on the wiki
I have posted the final rules of the Certamen Historicum to the Ludi Novi
Romani wiki page and I have set them out here. Since a number of folks were
having some issues getting the entries in to me, please note that although
daily submissions are encouraged, the competition does not close until the last
day of the games. Anyone may submit entries until the closing as noted in rule
4. I have also included a section in the Ludi wiki page to list current
standings. The current standings will be updated each day of the games as noted
in rule 6. If anyone has questions, concerns or requests, please be sure to
contact me via email - m.pompeius@... - before 12:00 Rome Time (11:00 AM
Central European Time / GMT +1) on 15 March 2764.




Rules of the Certamen Historicum
1. Each correct answer is worth 1 point. An extra point may be awarded for an
especially detailed and excellent answer.

2. New questions will be posted at about 01:00 Rome Time (1:00 AM Central
European Time / GMT +1) each day of the Ludi Novi Romani.

3. Submit your answers to m.pompeius@... with the subject heading
'Certamen Historicum'.

4. Entries may be submitted at any time before 23:59 Rome Time (11:59 PM Central
European Time / GMT +1) on 13 March 2764.

5. The current standings will be posted each evening so you may find the best
practice is to send in your answers each day for the current day's questions to
ensure your standings are updated on this page.

6. A list of the top ten contestants, including the winner, will be posted on
this page no later than 15 March 2764.

7. Any questions, concerns or requests should be addressed to
m.pompeius@... no later than 15 March 2764.

8. My decision is final in interpreting what is and what is not a correct
answer.


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83325 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: Returning Home to Nova Roma
Salve Aeternia,

Perhaps you can be of some assistance with the Provincial Forum. I have been waiting on the moderator to accept my request to join. I don see that there is not much communication there. Is their another forum that the province is using to communicate. I would like to become involved.
Vale
Africano

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Tragedienne" <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
>
> Aeternia C. Petronio Africano sal:
>
>
> Welcome back! As Provincial Hospitler & Legate I welcome you back to the province, and we could definitely use your help and skills.
>
> Please let me know how I can assist helping you get resettled within the provincia.
>
> Vale Optime,
> Aeternia
>
>
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83326 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium Chat
Salvete omnes

We had been sight-seeing in Rome. It had been an exciting day, and our minds were full of the places we had seen and the events we had watched. The streets were crowded, and everyone was jostling to push their way through.

Suddenly I noticed, some way off, a little flower seller trying her best to entice people to buy some of her flowers to take back home with them. She was a tiny girl, and her tray of faded flowers was still quite full. No one seemed to have the time to stop and buy. I could see that she was getting upset, and was afraid that she might begin to cry, when all of a sudden first one, and then a whole handful of people made their way over to her and started looking at her flowers. A gentle warm breeze had suddenly sprung up, but for once it did not bring the usual smells of the city to afflict our noses. I could now begin to smell fresh perfumes, glorious scents of perfect spring flowers, still damp with the early morning dew. It was no longer like being in the hot, dusty and dirty city, it was just like being in a meadow, with fresh grass covered in springtime flowers, washed and nourished by the pure waters of a crystal-clear stream. Suddenly everyone was enchanted by the visions that the flowers conjured up in their minds. Everyone was smiling, relishing the magical perfume, and looking in amazement at the fresh and bright colours of the flower-girl's tray. However many she sold, there still seemed to be plenty to sell, and there were plenty who wanted to buy. The little girl was now smiling happily, and the more she smiled the more the crowd smiled back at her and gave her the few coins for each small bunch. Everyone was thinking how charming it would be to buy such fresh bright flowers and take them home to delight their families.

I bought my little bunch, and was wondering where to go onto next, when I noticed that I was opposite the tavern called the Eagle. I recognised the two men I had seen there last night, one with the large floppy hat, the cloak and the long staff. And beside him, guiding him through the crowd was his friend the Centurion.

They went through to their familiar couches in the back room, and I followed, hoping for some more of the old stories that I had heard there last night. As they entered the room, places were immediately made for them on the couches, and I joined them there. I greeted them, and they remembered me, smiling a warm welcome. Those who were standing over by the fire looked round and came over to join us. Soon our little group had grown in number, and I could tell that it was time to ask for a story.

"Well", I said, to start the conversation, "that was a strange occurrence just now with the little flower-girl". "Oh, was it?" said Merlinius (I had now remembered his name). "Do you really think it strange that flowers bloom in the springtime?" "No", I laughed (there seemed to be something making me smile and laugh). "Of course flowers bloom in the spring. I just meant the flower-girl, the fresh flowers, the perfume, and the crowds buying her flowers". "Oh that", said Merlinius,. "Well, sometimes strange things happen like that. But I wonder if you know the story about why flowers bloom in the spring and not in the winter time"?

By now there was a little group around us, and at the mention of the word "story" more began to gather round. The Centurion chuckled at his friend. "You old rascal", he said. And turning to the others said that a couple of jugs of the best Falernian would earn tonight's story.

Everyone was eager for the story, and it was not long before the jugs were filled and brought across. Merlinius took a deep sip of his wine, and we all settled down for the tale.

"This story", he began, "happened when the world was very young, long, long before the days of Rome." "Before Rome?" someone asked. "Ah yes, Rome is still young, she has many centuries yet to rule, and even then, when that is all over, there will still be Rome. But this goes back to the old times before Rome, and to the times before that which are now just like mists in our memories. Even the gods were known by different names then, though of course they were all still the same gods as the ones you know. And goddesses too, because they are a main part in our story. In those days, the world was always full of flowers. Every day was bright, the sun brought forth the crops and the flowers, and everywhere was full of colour and pleasing perfumes." "Just like it was outside, just now?" asked one. "Oh yes, just like that" said Merlinius, taking another draught of his wine. He smiled, and we started to wonder if he actually remembered those far-off times.

"Well now" he continued, "our story too has an enchanting young girl called Proserpina, the daughter of Ceres who, as you know, is the goddess of all the plants and grain crops. Proserpina would play with the nymphs by the fountains in Sicily, collecting flowers and making up little bunches, just like our little flower-girl. But Venus saw Pluto, who was the god of the underworld, and thought he was lonely and sad, and pitied him because he did not have all the sunshine, flowers and love that she cherished. So she ordered her son, Cupid, to fire one of his arrows at Pluto, which struck him in the heart. You all know what Cupid's arrows do, don't you?" he asked the younger men, who laughed. "Well, Pluto couldn't help falling in love with the first person he saw. He came up out of the underworld, carried by four magnificent black horses, saw Proserpina and fell madly in love with her."

"Proserpina didn't want to leave her sunshine and flowers and go and live in the dark underworld with Pluto, so he carried her off there. As soon as she realised her daughter was missing, Ceres searched for her across the whole earth, and, of course, because she was doing this and not making the crops grow, all the plants started dying. While Ceres was weeping above ground, Proserpina remained Pluto's captive, and cried incessantly. So Ceres was unhappy, Proserpina was unhappy, and Pluto was also unhappy because Proserpina was sad. You see what love can do?" he asked.

"Because there were no crops, people prayed to Iuppiter to restore the beautiful world they had once known. Iuppiter, the greatest and the best, sent his messenger Mercury to command Pluto to release Proserpina. "

"But when she was in the underworld, Proserpina had eaten some pomegranate seeds. This was a trick by Pluto, for he loved Proserpina and did not want to lose her. He said that for each seed she had eaten, Proserpina had to spend one month in the underworld with him. That's why pomegranate seeds are a symbol of fidelity in marriage even to this day."

The men nodded. They knew the custom about pomegranate seeds, and how pomegranates denoted plenty, which is why they were so highly esteemed. Merlinius seized the opportunity to have another few sips at his Falernian, and then carried on with his story.

"So, depending on which part of the story you believe, Proserpina had to divide her year, part with Pluto underground, when the crops did not grow, and part above ground with Ceres her mother. When the time came for her to come up from the underworld, Ceres commanded the crops to grow and the flowers to bloom again, because she was so glad to have her daughter back again".

"So this is the reason for springtime. Proserpina comes back to her mother and Ceres decorates the earth with new crops and fresh bright flowers. And, of course, as the year comes to an end, Ceres knows that Proserpina will shortly have to go back, and she grieves for her coming loss by turning the leaves to yellow, orange and brown, which are some of her favourite colours, as a final gift to Proserpina to remind her of the colours of earth while she is away."

Some of the men started asking "Was that you who worked some magic with the flower-girl, then?" Merlinius just smiled. "Sometimes", he said "I remember things from a very long time ago. I don't like to see flower-girls crying".

"Come on, you old devil, you'll get into trouble" said Parnesius. "Drink up, its time for the night watch now". And so the two friends finished their wine and went off into the night. I picked up my bunch of flowers. And they were still fresh and covered in dew.

Valete omnes

Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83327 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Registration for the Munera Gladiatoria is now closed
Salvete!

We have 16 qualified entries for the Munera Gladiatoria. No further entries will
be accepted for this edition of the games but keep training and be sure to
register your gladiators for the next ludi. The Sweet 16 Qualification Round
will begin in a few hours followed by a report on the day's action in the arena.
Good luck to all of the gladiators and their schools!

Valete!


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83328 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 3 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be

posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time on 13 March
2764.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne

See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

Here are the questions for 3 March 2764 - Day 3 of the ludi:

Question #7. After the rape of Lucretia, Sextus Tarquinius fled to what city,
where he was killed?

Question #8. Who married the daughter of Gaius Metellus Delmeticus and, as
censor in 114 BC, struck at least 35 senators from the roster?

Question #9. Nova Roma, Inc. is a corporation in the United States of America.
Which office(s) in the nation Nova Roma also form the Board of Directors of
Nova Roma, Inc.?
For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83329 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-02
Subject: Re: Returning Home to Nova Roma
Aeternia Africano sal:

There isn't another forum but it seems that we should do so... I will
contact the Governor since he is close range to me to see if this situation
may be expedited

Vale,
Aeternia.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM, GeorgeV <gunney1976@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Salve Aeternia,
>
> Perhaps you can be of some assistance with the Provincial Forum. I have
> been waiting on the moderator to accept my request to join. I don see that
> there is not much communication there. Is their another forum that the
> province is using to communicate. I would like to become involved.
> Vale
> Africano
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Tragedienne" <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:
> >
> > Aeternia C. Petronio Africano sal:
> >
> >
> > Welcome back! As Provincial Hospitler & Legate I welcome you back to the
> province, and we could definitely use your help and skills.
> >
> > Please let me know how I can assist helping you get resettled within the
> provincia.
> >
> > Vale Optime,
> > Aeternia
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83330 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: De Vestali nostrá
A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

After several days without news, two of us were able to reach the
hospital this evening, and got some information on Caeca¹s condition. The
nurse was far less cooperative than the previous one I had reached, but we
(Aeternia and I, separately) managed to ascertain that there is some
improvement; she is less critical, and under less sedation. Aeternia
managed to learn that skin graft surgery on Caeca¹s hand was successful, and
I learnt that they are trying to get her to eat (possibly real food, not
just the liquid via a stomach tube which she has been receiving), and that
she is off the rotating bed, but that this nurse knew nothing about the
previously-planned rib cage surgery.

We are trying to get there, but until Caeca is off the respirator and
out of the ICU, visits must be confined to those who do not live hundreds or
thousands of miles away. Recently she was not allowed any visitors at all,
and the ICU visits are typically confined to 15 minutes at very limited
times of day.

We will try to keep you posted.

Valete.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83331 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Romani
Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results from the
Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches of
the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!

The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The
amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the upper
seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today has
been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite
profitable.

The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and Verus,
a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in a
rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From the
beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker and
more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two
minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and keep
him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the
secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's trident
tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free. Aello
took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to the
hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus was
in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look
forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.

The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a Retiarius,
pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast with
Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the
impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus
launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the arena.
The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the
Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.

In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu, a
Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe
defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and, Pricus
gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus Panthera.
Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of wounds
they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition and
are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.

Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello
Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura
Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni
Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu
Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe
Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest
Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus
Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus

At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new independent
school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and Venetus
had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able to
enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their
opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their
standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the schools
over the next few months.

Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is Marcus
Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we
will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals round
for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!

Di vos incolumes custodiant!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83332 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Certamen Latinum #1 (Latin Quiz)
Cn. Lentulus scriba aedilis Sta. Corneliae Aeterniae: Quiritibus: S. P. D.

Preface

We
are the landless nation of the New Romans, the Res Publica Nova Romana,
celebrating the 13rd Birthday of Nova Roma today, the Concordialia and
the ludi Novi Romani. Our common national language is the Latin. Our
patriotic, Roman duty is to learn this language, or at least, to get
familiar with some expressions and important facts regarding our
wonderful Latin language. It doesn’t matter if you fail learning our
language, it doesn’t matter if you can’t. The only thing that matters
it’s that you try, that you give some time and effort to honor our Roman
identity. Because national identity, first and foremost, lives in the
language. We, the Nova Romans, created Nova Roma to restore the Roman
national and cultural identity, and its living community: the Roman Res
Publica. It’s a huge and important personal step forward to get informed
about Latin. Maybe you will never have time or energy to learn it, but
it’s your duty to make some efforts, if not learning it, but at least
informing you about it in a small extent. If you do only that, you did
well already.



By participating in this Latin Contest, Certamen Latinum, you will be
guided through the basics of the Latin language. You will get a clue how
Latin works, how it looks like “from inside”. We will start from the
very bottom and we will arrive to understand some basic Latin sentences.
At, the end, every participant will feel that Latin is not so hard as
you thought, and maybe you will want to continue learning on your own.



Attention: this Certamen Latinum is designed for beginners, those who
actually know Latin are gently asked not to participate since it would
not be fair competition.

You can follow the Certamen Latin on our ludus webpage, too:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

 



March 3rd - Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani – Question 1 of the Certamen Latinum

I. INTRODUCTION 1 - Dictionary Forms of Nouns



Latin is a heavily inflected language, which means that Latin indicates
grammatical information by changing the ending of the words. Nouns are
grouped into 5 declensions (noun inflection groups), verbs can be
classified into 4 conjugations (verb inflection groups). If we change a
noun’s ending to express its grammatical role, we say we “decline” it.
If we change a verb’s ending to express the person or the time (tense),
we say we “conjugate” it. To determine which declension or conjugation
group a verb belongs to, you have to look into a Latin dictionary.



Today we will examine the dictionary forms of nouns only.



In the case of nouns, for example, “friend”, you will find:



amicus, -i, m.



This is 3 pieces of information:



(1)              amicus;

(2)              -i;

(3)              m.



(1) This means that the word “friend” in nominative (subject) case is
“amicus”. Learn more about what nominative case means here, on our
website:


http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative



(2) The abbreviated form “-i” means that the word “friend” in genitive
(possessive) case is “amici” (something of friend, or friend’s
something), thus the original ending “-us” changes to “-i”. Learn more
about what nominative case means here, on our website:


http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive



Well, this is the most important point. This ending “–i” determines that
“amicus” belongs to the “second declension”, whose identifier is the
genitive “–i”. As we have mentioned, there are 5 declensions, and each
one of these has a unique, declension-specific genitive ending. It’s
important because the genitive ending determines the other inflections
as well. The five types of genitive ending and the five declensions
determined by the different genitive endings are:



-ae = 1st declension, e.g.: Roma, -ae, f (Rome)

-i = 2nd declension, eg.: amicus, -i, m (friend)

-is = 3rd declension, e.g.: rex, regis, m (king)

-ús = 4th declension, eg.: senatus, -ús, m (senate)

-ei = 5th declension, eg. fides, -ei, f (loyalty)



(3) The “m.” means that it is a masculine noun. In Latin, all nouns have
three genders, they are masculine, (abbreviated as “m”), feminine (abbreviated as “f”), and neuter (abbreviated as “n”). English has a similar phenomenon when we use “he”, “she” or “it”. The
new thing in this is that Latin uses these genders for things or
abstract concepts, too, like in the exemples above, “loyalty” (fides, -ei, f) is
feminine in Latin, the “senate” (senatus, -ús, m) is masculine, “Rome” (Roma, -ae, f) is, again,
feminine.



II. QUESTION 1



Find a Latin dictionary. Attention! If you use an online dictionary, be aware that most of the online dictionaries are incomplete and do not give the
full, correct dictionary forms of the Latin words. If you can use only
online resources, please use one of the following Google Books
digitalized Latin dictionary:


http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false



Look into the dictionary and determine which declensions the following 10 nouns belong to (10 x 1 pts).



Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
possessive form (genitive) (10 x 0.5 pts) and their gender (10 x 0.1
pts).



forum

consul

gloria

dignitas

res

pax

nomen

gladius

legio

porticus


III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:



praetor;



- after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is
“praetor, -oris, m”, so you will give the following data:



praetor, 3rd declension (1pt); praetoris (0.5pt), masculine (0.1pt)



Comments: It’s 3rd declension, because in the abbreviated genitive form given as  “–oris” for "praetoris", the genitive ending “-is” determines that it must belong to the 3rd declension.

 

IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM



One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers
not to this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...>
within 24 hours of posting. Please do *not* post answers to the list!
Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong address will not be
awarded with points.



The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced together with the posting of the next questions.






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83333 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Aeternia Marco Pompeio Canino Omnibusque S.P.D.


Thank you Caninus! And a big thank you to all of the participants and
their Gladiators during these games!


Optime Vale,
Aeternia

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:54 AM, M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...>wrote:

>
>
> Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results from
> the
> Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches
> of
> the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!
>
> The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The
> amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the
> upper
> seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today
> has
> been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite
> profitable.
>
> The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and
> Verus,
> a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in
> a
> rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From
> the
> beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker
> and
> more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two
> minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and
> keep
> him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the
> secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's
> trident
> tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free.
> Aello
> took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to
> the
> hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus
> was
> in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look
> forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.
>
> The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a
> Retiarius,
> pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast
> with
> Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the
>
> impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus
>
> launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the
> arena.
> The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
> amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the
> Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.
>
> In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu,
> a
> Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe
>
> defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and,
> Pricus
> gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus
> Panthera.
> Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of
> wounds
> they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition
> and
> are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.
>
> Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello
> Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura
> Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni
> Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu
> Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe
> Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest
> Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus
> Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus
>
> At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new
> independent
> school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and
> Venetus
> had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able
> to
> enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their
>
> opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their
> standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the
> schools
> over the next few months.
>
> Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is
> Marcus
> Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and
> we
> will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals
> round
> for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!
>
> Di vos incolumes custodiant!
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus
> Bethel, Alaska, USA
> America Boreoccidentalis
>
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>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83334 From: marcushoratius Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/46808

[Above link inserted for clarity CnIC Praetor]

Salve Sabine

You are confusing terms. Yes, anyone may perform private auspicia. Magistrates, as private individuals, had to perform their own private auspices in the case of attaining the approval of their Lares to hold office. That is what I was referring to in the older post. The subject of that post, if you read it, concerns templa. It states in the first paragraph: "There were all kinds of templa, depending on their intended purpose. You should not confuse all of them as being the same." An augur, public or private, is not required to erect a templum in all cases. But do note that I mention they are required in certain situations concerning the State.

Auspicia taken for the state are to be performed under the authority and direction of a magistrate. But do not confuse or conflate the process in which the magistrate directs and the augur performs. This whole dispute has arisen from a misunderstanding of the word "take," using its English connotations as though they were literally meant, rather than consider the process involved in Roman rituals. The limited evidence we have does not support what Valerianus said on magistrates observing and augures interpreting. The more we augures have looked into this issue, the more evident what process was used and the relationship between the augur and magistrate in the ritual process.

Sabine, you are trying to accomodate those who do not believe in our Gods so that they may take auspicia in the name of the State. That is not about religion. That is politics. You are trying to politicise the ars augurum for deviant political purposes. Also, Sabine, you are not a member of the Collegium Augurum and therefore ought not to have any posting privileges. This is a discussion between augeres alone.


Vale

M. Horatius Piscinus




--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <mhoratius@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Corde, Marine, et omnes
>
> Templum is a general term for an area that is "set off" from
> surrounding land by taking auspices, and temporarily devoted to a
> particular purpose. There were all kinds of templa, depending on
> their intended purpose. You should not confuse all of them as being
> the same.
>
> Cordus' comment is not quite true. Anyone can take auspicia and thus
> would erect the celestial templum in which to observe the auspices.
> Anyone taking auspicia would also necessarily erect the terrestrial
> templum in which auspicia were performed. Augures were not required
> for those kind of templa. In the case of a magistrate acting as an
> auspex, he would be assisted by public augures to ensure that the
> ritual was performed correctly, but he would be the one to actually
> erect the terrestrial and celestial templa. Augures were not
> required, and in fact did not take the augurium publica. There were
> two (possibly three) auguracula located inside the pomerium that had
> already been established as templa for the magistrates to take the
> auguria publica. The one most used was on the Arx beside where Titus
> Tatius had his home. The other was on the Quirinale Hill, presumably
> also first established by Titus Tatius. Some other instances where
> we hear about magistrates taking the auspices is the one case with
> Consul Tiberius Gracchus in order to hold elections. That was a
> temporary templum, erected in the garden of Scipio Africanus, and it
> just happened that Consul Gracchus was also a public augur. His son,
> Tiberius Gracchus, the beloved Tribunus Plebis, also is mentioned
> taking auspices, at his home because of the significance of the house
> of a Tribunus Plebis, and he, too, just happened to be a public
> augur. But nothing in those stories, or in others concerning
> auspicia is there any mention of a requirement that augures perform
> the auspicium. In a couple of stories the magistrate acts as the
> auspex, and thus must necessarily have been the one to erect both
> templa, but no mention is given in those cases that the respective
> magistrates were also augures.
>
> Where the services of augures were required to erect templa were in
> two other related cases. Anything that was struck by lightning had
> to be properly dealt with. The tree, if that was the case, the soil,
> a person or animal, whatever was struck, had to be buried in a
> special way. The round mound under which such articles were buried
> was called a puteal, and it had to be marked off by an augur who was
> called specifically in to perform the ritual in order to determine
> the boundaries of this little shrine. I think it is Flores, in
> describing some of the shrines on a private estate, who mentions one
> of these puteals. We can imagine that there might have been quite a
> few puteals scatered over the countryside. The augur who was called
> in to perform the rite was not necessarily a public augur. All
> Romans took auspicia, even women are known to have, and some private
> citizens, like Attus Naevius might gain a reputation as especially
> knowledgeable or skilled as an augur, and thus could be called upon
> to act as an augur in private situations.
>
> The other case, where public augures would have been the ones
> required to erect the templum, was where a public area was being
> marked off for a special use. Usually this was for a shrine, of
> which there were different types. Although not all of these public
> templa were converted into shrines; the Curia being most noted. The
> augur *sanctified* the area by taking the auspices to determine the
> boundaries of the shrine, and then directed the marking off of those
> boundaries. If the intended use of the templum was to erect an
> edifice, what we call a temple (aedes), then further steps were
> required to make the site sacred - first the location had to be
> within the pomerium, the project of erecting the edifice had to be
> voted on by a comitia, and then the pontifices had to perform the
> consecratio. In that case only were public augures required to erect
> the templum, because it was a public project. However such projects
> had two commisioner charged with overseeing the work and dedication
> of the edifice, and it may have been that they served as auspices,
> and thus might have been called augures when theat particular part of
> the conversion process took place. Other kinds of shrines like a
> fanum would not necessarily have been consecrated, although some
> probably were, but would had to have been sanctified by public
> augures if they were public shrines, or at least by private augures
> for a private fanum even if intended for public use.
>
> The title of augur probaby referred to a functional role in some
> rites. And as anyone might perfom auspicia, anyone might be called
> an augur I suppose. But auspex it the title of one who performs the
> ritual and would be the more technical term in that case. Augur
> generally carries a connotation of a person who had studied the art
> of auspicia. So in a family, one uncle might be considered an augur
> in that family, and he might have been called upon to advise others
> as an augur. We know that every family kept their own books on
> augury and that these did not always follw the same procedures or use
> the same signs as were used in public auspicia. Those who kept such
> family books and studied them were private augures. But to say an
> augur was required to erect a templum is a little misleading, and to
> confuse the term with only those augures who were officially
> recognized as public priests in the Collegium Augurum, in all
> situations, in not correct.
>
> Valete optime
> M Moravius Piscinus
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
> <a_apollonius_cordus@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A. Apollonius Cn. Equitio sal.
> >
> > > I've also used the flights of birds as "yes/no" indicators.
> Establish a
> > templum in the sky facing east, and wait for the first bird to fly
> into
> > it. A bird from the north is a yes, one from the south a no.
> > <
> >
> > We should say, however, that according to ancient Roman augural
> rules a valid templum for the taking of public auspices could only be
> established by an augur. I'm not aware that any responsum has ever
> been given on the subject in Nova Roma, but chapter VI.B.2.b.1 of the
> lex constitutiva seems to suggest that the same is true in Nova
> Roma. So any auspices taken in a templum created by a magistrate who
> is not an augur will probably not amount to valid public auspices.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________
> > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new
> Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83335 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Salvete

"The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and Verus,
a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in a
rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From the
beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed."

Verus "outclassed" by a WOMAN??? I think not!! ^&%^$^%*&%#$%^%))(*

It is not to believed that a gladiator owned by a Censor, Consul et Tribune is "outclassed" by a WOMAN!!

My gladiators LOSE two of three fights???

There ought to be an investigation and I promise you there WILL BE!!!! Heads will roll!!!

^%%$^*&(*)_()_((*^*&^*_)(U


Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus




To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: m.pompeius@...
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 02:54:23 -0800
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Romani 2764






Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results from the
Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches of
the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!

The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The
amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the upper
seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today has
been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite
profitable.

The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and Verus,
a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in a
rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From the
beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker and
more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two
minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and keep
him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the
secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's trident
tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free. Aello
took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to the
hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus was
in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look
forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.

The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a Retiarius,
pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast with
Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the
impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus
launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the arena.
The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the
Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.

In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu, a
Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe
defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and, Pricus
gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus Panthera.
Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of wounds
they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition and
are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.

Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello
Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura
Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni
Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu
Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe
Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest
Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus
Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus

At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new independent
school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and Venetus
had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able to
enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their
opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their
standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the schools
over the next few months.

Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is Marcus
Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we
will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals round
for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!

Di vos incolumes custodiant!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83336 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Av,

Master of games, since both my fighters lost the qualifying round, feed Secondus to the Lions and crucify Primo. 

I will not waste good food and money on fighters who cannot bring the Greens victory.

Titus Sicinius Metellus

--- On Thu, 3/3/11, Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...> wrote:

From: Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Romani 2764
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 6:43 AM







 









Aeternia Marco Pompeio Canino Omnibusque S.P.D.



Thank you Caninus! And a big thank you to all of the participants and

their Gladiators during these games!



Optime Vale,

Aeternia



On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:54 AM, M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...>wrote:



>

>

> Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results from

> the

> Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches

> of

> the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!

>

> The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The

> amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the

> upper

> seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today

> has

> been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite

> profitable.

>

> The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and

> Verus,

> a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in

> a

> rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From

> the

> beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker

> and

> more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two

> minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and

> keep

> him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the

> secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's

> trident

> tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free.

> Aello

> took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to

> the

> hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus

> was

> in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look

> forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.

>

> The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a

> Retiarius,

> pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast

> with

> Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the

>

> impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus

>

> launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the

> arena.

> The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The

> amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the

> Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.

>

> In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu,

> a

> Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe

>

> defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and,

> Pricus

> gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus

> Panthera.

> Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of

> wounds

> they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition

> and

> are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.

>

> Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello

> Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura

> Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni

> Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu

> Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe

> Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest

> Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus

> Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus

>

> At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new

> independent

> school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and

> Venetus

> had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able

> to

> enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their

>

> opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their

> standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the

> schools

> over the next few months.

>

> Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is

> Marcus

> Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and

> we

> will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals

> round

> for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!

>

> Di vos incolumes custodiant!

>

> M. Pompeius Caninus

> Bethel, Alaska, USA

> America Boreoccidentalis

>

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>

>

>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83337 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Ave!

Hypocrisy thy name is Piscinus.

This is what this is about:

Sabine, you are trying to accomodate those who do not believe in our Gods so
that they may take auspicia in the name of the State. That is not about
religion. That is politics. You are trying to politicise the ars augurum for
deviant political purposes. Also, Sabine, you are not a member of the
Collegium Augurum and therefore ought not to have any posting privileges.
This is a discussion between augeres alone.

You, Piscinus are a hypocrite. Your own words being used against you...and
the above statement is the reason for your hypocrisy. Thank G-d NR has
archives that can see your dramatic 180 degree change in position.

Vale,

Sulla

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:01 AM, marcushoratius <MHoratius@...>wrote:

>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/46808
>
> [Above link inserted for clarity CnIC Praetor]
>
> Salve Sabine
>
> You are confusing terms. Yes, anyone may perform private auspicia.
> Magistrates, as private individuals, had to perform their own private
> auspices in the case of attaining the approval of their Lares to hold
> office. That is what I was referring to in the older post. The subject of
> that post, if you read it, concerns templa. It states in the first
> paragraph: "There were all kinds of templa, depending on their intended
> purpose. You should not confuse all of them as being the same." An augur,
> public or private, is not required to erect a templum in all cases. But do
> note that I mention they are required in certain situations concerning the
> State.
>
> Auspicia taken for the state are to be performed under the authority and
> direction of a magistrate. But do not confuse or conflate the process in
> which the magistrate directs and the augur performs. This whole dispute has
> arisen from a misunderstanding of the word "take," using its English
> connotations as though they were literally meant, rather than consider the
> process involved in Roman rituals. The limited evidence we have does not
> support what Valerianus said on magistrates observing and augures
> interpreting. The more we augures have looked into this issue, the more
> evident what process was used and the relationship between the augur and
> magistrate in the ritual process.
>
> Sabine, you are trying to accomodate those who do not believe in our Gods
> so that they may take auspicia in the name of the State. That is not about
> religion. That is politics. You are trying to politicise the ars augurum for
> deviant political purposes. Also, Sabine, you are not a member of the
> Collegium Augurum and therefore ought not to have any posting privileges.
> This is a discussion between augeres alone.
>
> Vale
>
> M. Horatius Piscinus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <mhoratius@...> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete Corde, Marine, et omnes
> >
> > Templum is a general term for an area that is "set off" from
> > surrounding land by taking auspices, and temporarily devoted to a
> > particular purpose. There were all kinds of templa, depending on
> > their intended purpose. You should not confuse all of them as being
> > the same.
> >
> > Cordus' comment is not quite true. Anyone can take auspicia and thus
> > would erect the celestial templum in which to observe the auspices.
> > Anyone taking auspicia would also necessarily erect the terrestrial
> > templum in which auspicia were performed. Augures were not required
> > for those kind of templa. In the case of a magistrate acting as an
> > auspex, he would be assisted by public augures to ensure that the
> > ritual was performed correctly, but he would be the one to actually
> > erect the terrestrial and celestial templa. Augures were not
> > required, and in fact did not take the augurium publica. There were
> > two (possibly three) auguracula located inside the pomerium that had
> > already been established as templa for the magistrates to take the
> > auguria publica. The one most used was on the Arx beside where Titus
> > Tatius had his home. The other was on the Quirinale Hill, presumably
> > also first established by Titus Tatius. Some other instances where
> > we hear about magistrates taking the auspices is the one case with
> > Consul Tiberius Gracchus in order to hold elections. That was a
> > temporary templum, erected in the garden of Scipio Africanus, and it
> > just happened that Consul Gracchus was also a public augur. His son,
> > Tiberius Gracchus, the beloved Tribunus Plebis, also is mentioned
> > taking auspices, at his home because of the significance of the house
> > of a Tribunus Plebis, and he, too, just happened to be a public
> > augur. But nothing in those stories, or in others concerning
> > auspicia is there any mention of a requirement that augures perform
> > the auspicium. In a couple of stories the magistrate acts as the
> > auspex, and thus must necessarily have been the one to erect both
> > templa, but no mention is given in those cases that the respective
> > magistrates were also augures.
> >
> > Where the services of augures were required to erect templa were in
> > two other related cases. Anything that was struck by lightning had
> > to be properly dealt with. The tree, if that was the case, the soil,
> > a person or animal, whatever was struck, had to be buried in a
> > special way. The round mound under which such articles were buried
> > was called a puteal, and it had to be marked off by an augur who was
> > called specifically in to perform the ritual in order to determine
> > the boundaries of this little shrine. I think it is Flores, in
> > describing some of the shrines on a private estate, who mentions one
> > of these puteals. We can imagine that there might have been quite a
> > few puteals scatered over the countryside. The augur who was called
> > in to perform the rite was not necessarily a public augur. All
> > Romans took auspicia, even women are known to have, and some private
> > citizens, like Attus Naevius might gain a reputation as especially
> > knowledgeable or skilled as an augur, and thus could be called upon
> > to act as an augur in private situations.
> >
> > The other case, where public augures would have been the ones
> > required to erect the templum, was where a public area was being
> > marked off for a special use. Usually this was for a shrine, of
> > which there were different types. Although not all of these public
> > templa were converted into shrines; the Curia being most noted. The
> > augur *sanctified* the area by taking the auspices to determine the
> > boundaries of the shrine, and then directed the marking off of those
> > boundaries. If the intended use of the templum was to erect an
> > edifice, what we call a temple (aedes), then further steps were
> > required to make the site sacred - first the location had to be
> > within the pomerium, the project of erecting the edifice had to be
> > voted on by a comitia, and then the pontifices had to perform the
> > consecratio. In that case only were public augures required to erect
> > the templum, because it was a public project. However such projects
> > had two commisioner charged with overseeing the work and dedication
> > of the edifice, and it may have been that they served as auspices,
> > and thus might have been called augures when theat particular part of
> > the conversion process took place. Other kinds of shrines like a
> > fanum would not necessarily have been consecrated, although some
> > probably were, but would had to have been sanctified by public
> > augures if they were public shrines, or at least by private augures
> > for a private fanum even if intended for public use.
> >
> > The title of augur probaby referred to a functional role in some
> > rites. And as anyone might perfom auspicia, anyone might be called
> > an augur I suppose. But auspex it the title of one who performs the
> > ritual and would be the more technical term in that case. Augur
> > generally carries a connotation of a person who had studied the art
> > of auspicia. So in a family, one uncle might be considered an augur
> > in that family, and he might have been called upon to advise others
> > as an augur. We know that every family kept their own books on
> > augury and that these did not always follw the same procedures or use
> > the same signs as were used in public auspicia. Those who kept such
> > family books and studied them were private augures. But to say an
> > augur was required to erect a templum is a little misleading, and to
> > confuse the term with only those augures who were officially
> > recognized as public priests in the Collegium Augurum, in all
> > situations, in not correct.
> >
> > Valete optime
> > M Moravius Piscinus
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
> > <a_apollonius_cordus@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A. Apollonius Cn. Equitio sal.
> > >
> > > > I've also used the flights of birds as "yes/no" indicators.
> > Establish a
> > > templum in the sky facing east, and wait for the first bird to fly
> > into
> > > it. A bird from the north is a yes, one from the south a no.
> > > <
> > >
> > > We should say, however, that according to ancient Roman augural
> > rules a valid templum for the taking of public auspices could only be
> > established by an augur. I'm not aware that any responsum has ever
> > been given on the subject in Nova Roma, but chapter VI.B.2.b.1 of the
> > lex constitutiva seems to suggest that the same is true in Nova
> > Roma. So any auspices taken in a templum created by a magistrate who
> > is not an augur will probably not amount to valid public auspices.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new
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> >
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83338 From: Nyk Cowham Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Salvete omnes,

Alas, there will be a couple of uninjured yet defeated fighters who will be
receiving a good taste of the whip for dashing the hopes of the Reds this
year! I personally lost a tidy sum due to the incompetence of Suffocatrix
alone, as did many of my friends!

Although I hate to have to do it, I think a good flogging will make them
both put up a better show at the next games, and serve as an example to the
others.

Vale
V. Valerius Volusus.

On 3 March 2011 17:54, M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...> wrote:

> Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results
> from the
>
> Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches
> of
> the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!
>
> The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The
> amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the
> upper
> seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today
> has
> been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite
> profitable.
>
> The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and
> Verus,
> a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in
> a
> rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From
> the
> beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker
> and
> more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two
> minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and
> keep
> him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the
> secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's
> trident
> tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free.
> Aello
> took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to
> the
> hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus
> was
> in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look
> forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.
>
> The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a
> Retiarius,
> pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast
> with
> Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the
>
> impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus
>
> launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the
> arena.
> The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
> amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the
> Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.
>
> In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu,
> a
> Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe
>
> defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and,
> Pricus
> gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus
> Panthera.
> Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of
> wounds
> they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition
> and
> are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.
>
> Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello
> Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura
> Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni
> Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu
> Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe
> Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest
> Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus
> Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus
>
> At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new
> independent
> school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and
> Venetus
> had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able
> to
> enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their
>
> opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their
> standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the
> schools
> over the next few months.
>
> Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is
> Marcus
> Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and
> we
> will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals
> round
> for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!
>
> Di vos incolumes custodiant!
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus
> Bethel, Alaska, USA
> America Boreoccidentalis
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Nyk Cowham
Cowham Consulting
nyk@...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83339 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
se of C. Petronius Africanus at the first round of the Games. We are please to know that no gladiators have died this day and wishm them well in recovering from their injuries. To the victors we salute ytou. For Aello, Sura and Tinshe an extra ration of wine and beef.

Valeete,
C, Petronius Africanus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Pompeius Caninus" <m.pompeius@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results from the
> Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches of
> the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!
>
> The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The
> amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the upper
> seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today has
> been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite
> profitable.
>
> The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and Verus,
> a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in a
> rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From the
> beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker and
> more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two
> minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and keep
> him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the
> secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's trident
> tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free. Aello
> took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to the
> hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus was
> in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look
> forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.
>
> The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a Retiarius,
> pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast with
> Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the
> impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus
> launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the arena.
> The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
> amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the
> Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.
>
> In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu, a
> Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe
> defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and, Pricus
> gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus Panthera.
> Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of wounds
> they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition and
> are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.
>
> Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello
> Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura
> Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni
> Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu
> Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe
> Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest
> Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus
> Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus
>
> At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new independent
> school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and Venetus
> had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able to
> enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their
> opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their
> standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the schools
> over the next few months.
>
> Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is Marcus
> Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we
> will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals round
> for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!
>
> Di vos incolumes custodiant!
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus
> Bethel, Alaska, USA
> America Boreoccidentalis
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83340 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Salvete Omenes,
It would appear that part of my previous message was lost on its way to forum.

The gods smiled on the whites and the house of C. Petronius Africanus at the first round of the Games. We are please to know that no gladiators have died this day and wish them well in recovering from their injuries. To the victors we salute ytou. For Aello, Sura and Tinshe an extra ration of wine and beef.
>


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "GeorgeV" <gunney1976@...> wrote:
>
> se of C. Petronius Africanus at the first round of the Games. We are please to know that no gladiators have died this day and wishm them well in recovering from their injuries. To the victors we salute ytou. For Aello, Sura and Tinshe an extra ration of wine and beef.
>
> Valeete,
> C, Petronius Africanus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Pompeius Caninus" <m.pompeius@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the latest results from the
> > Flavian Amphitheatre for the Munera Gladiatoria qualification round matches of
> > the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!
> >
> > The sun has been shining with hardly a cloud in the sky all afternoon. The
> > amphitheater has been warm near the sand but a chilly breeze have made the upper
> > seats somewhat uncomfortable. The spectator turn out for the matches today has
> > been rather light but the vendors have been very busy and, it seems, quite
> > profitable.
> >
> > The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and Verus,
> > a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in a
> > rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From the
> > beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed. She was quicker and
> > more agile than Verus and her training proved to be superior. At just two
> > minutes thirty-six seconds into the match, Aello was able to snag Verus and keep
> > him in her net long enough to land a strong thrust on her opponent but the
> > secutor twisted at the last moment and nearly escaped. Nearly. Aello's trident
> > tore into Verus's right thigh, impaling him. He was unable to get free. Aello
> > took the victory and was declared the winner while Verus was rushed off to the
> > hospital. We received word a few minutes ago from his publicist that Verus was
> > in good condition following surgery. We wish him the best of luck and look
> > forward to seeing him compete in the next tournament.
> >
> > The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a Retiarius,
> > pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast with
> > Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by the
> > impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when Attalus
> > launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the arena.
> > The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
> > amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on the
> > Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their wagers.
> >
> > In other matches: Sura defeated Lucanus; Bjarni took out Secundus; Llacheu, a
> > Welsh Dimachaerus, of all things, won against Primo, a hoplomachus; Tinashe
> > defeated Flamma; Drest won a lopsided victory against Hierocles; and, Pricus
> > gained the favor of many citizens in the crowd when he beat Timomachus Panthera.
> > Both Lucanus and Secundus were taken to the hospital for treatment of wounds
> > they received in the arena today but both gladiators are in good condition and
> > are expected to return to training a couple of weeks.
> >
> > Aello vs. Verus - won by Aello
> > Sura vs. Luncanus - won by Sura
> > Secundus vs. Bjarni - won by Bjarni
> > Primo vs. Llacheu - won by Llacheu
> > Tinashe vs. Flamma - won by Tinashe
> > Drest vs. Hierocles - won by Drest
> > Timomachus Panthera vs. Pricus - won by Pricus
> > Suffocatrix vs. Attalus - won by Attalus
> >
> > At the end of the round, Albatus had three wins, Municius, a new independent
> > school, had one win, Praesinus had one win, Russatus had no wins, and Venetus
> > had three wins. It was, indeed, a sad day for the Reds who were only able to
> > enter two rookies in the fights, both of whom were easily defeated by their
> > opponents. But even the Blues with three wins today need to improve their
> > standings. I sense there will be some intense training in all of the schools
> > over the next few months.
> >
> > Well, that does it for our coverage of the qualification round. This is Marcus
> > Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we
> > will see you here again tomorrow for the Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinals round
> > for Ludi Novi Romani 2764!
> >
> > Di vos incolumes custodiant!
> >
> > M. Pompeius Caninus
> > Bethel, Alaska, USA
> > America Boreoccidentalis
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83341 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi Novi Rom
Caesar Paulino sal.

You sure you didn't train them for a silver polishing contest instead? <lol>

Optime vale

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:40 AM
To: Nova-Roma
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for
Ludi Novi Romani 2764


Salvete

"The first match of the day was between Aello the Amazon, a Retiarius, and
Verus,
a Secutor. The amazon was one of two female retiarii fighting today! And in
a
rather unique turn of events both of these women faced male pursuers. From
the
beginning it was obvious Aello had her opponent outclassed."

Verus "outclassed" by a WOMAN??? I think not!! ^&%^$^%*&%#$%^%))(*
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83342 From: Sabinus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
SALVE PISCINE!

I don't confound anything as time there is not any comment from my part.
In your message you decided in my place what you believe is more convenient for me. From where you decided that, I don't know, but I let the people to judge:
So, here is the Piscinus post from Collegium Augurum list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Collegium_Augurum/message/163
I replied with this:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Collegium_Augurum/message/164
which include a link to another old post of Piscinus which is somehow in contradiction with his current vision.
I didn't make any comment but Piscine, you jumped immediately in conclusions.
However, that doesn't disturb me. People here can see again how you mix the things in a way convenient for you and your interest of the moment.

I am not a member of Collegium Augurum but as Pontifex Maximus I have duties there. By the other hand, why you are there as time you are not augur? I am sure the answer is in line with the fact you consider that list as one which not belong to Nova Roma. No problem with that. Nova Roma don't stop because you or someone else created a list.

Now, pay attention to what I say now, because is important and you as former augur is supposed to understand that:
First was Rome and then Res Publica.
First was Nova Roma and then Res Publica.
Both were founded with favorable auspices and nobody can deny, revert or change that. All what happen from then in Nova Roma history enter under the initially auspices of Nova Roma foundation even if we like or not what happened during the time.
Because that auspices of Nova Roma foundation you are what you use as name now: Marcus Moravius Piscinus. The censorial decision granting your name enters under that auspices of Nova Roma foundation. Without them, one's roman identity approved in Nova Roma is questionable.
Gods are not travelers. They don't pack their bags and follow because you or anyone else jumps from a list to another, from a web domain to another or from a group to another. No. They know and respect the connection between us and the connection about I talk is exactly that: the favorable auspices Nova Roma received from the Gods at her foundation. All the rest are only words.

VALE,
Sabinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <MHoratius@...> wrote:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/46808
>
> [Above link inserted for clarity CnIC Praetor]
>
> Salve Sabine
>
> You are confusing terms. Yes, anyone may perform private auspicia. Magistrates, as private individuals, had to perform their own private auspices in the case of attaining the approval of their Lares to hold office. That is what I was referring to in the older post. The subject of that post, if you read it, concerns templa. It states in the first paragraph: "There were all kinds of templa, depending on their intended purpose. You should not confuse all of them as being the same." An augur, public or private, is not required to erect a templum in all cases. But do note that I mention they are required in certain situations concerning the State.
>
> Auspicia taken for the state are to be performed under the authority and direction of a magistrate. But do not confuse or conflate the process in which the magistrate directs and the augur performs. This whole dispute has arisen from a misunderstanding of the word "take," using its English connotations as though they were literally meant, rather than consider the process involved in Roman rituals. The limited evidence we have does not support what Valerianus said on magistrates observing and augures interpreting. The more we augures have looked into this issue, the more evident what process was used and the relationship between the augur and magistrate in the ritual process.
>
> Sabine, you are trying to accomodate those who do not believe in our Gods so that they may take auspicia in the name of the State. That is not about religion. That is politics. You are trying to politicise the ars augurum for deviant political purposes. Also, Sabine, you are not a member of the Collegium Augurum and therefore ought not to have any posting privileges. This is a discussion between augeres alone.
>
>
> Vale
>
> M. Horatius Piscinus
>
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "marcushoratius" <mhoratius@> wrote:
> >
> > Salvete Corde, Marine, et omnes
> >
> > Templum is a general term for an area that is "set off" from
> > surrounding land by taking auspices, and temporarily devoted to a
> > particular purpose. There were all kinds of templa, depending on
> > their intended purpose. You should not confuse all of them as being
> > the same.
> >
> > Cordus' comment is not quite true. Anyone can take auspicia and thus
> > would erect the celestial templum in which to observe the auspices.
> > Anyone taking auspicia would also necessarily erect the terrestrial
> > templum in which auspicia were performed. Augures were not required
> > for those kind of templa. In the case of a magistrate acting as an
> > auspex, he would be assisted by public augures to ensure that the
> > ritual was performed correctly, but he would be the one to actually
> > erect the terrestrial and celestial templa. Augures were not
> > required, and in fact did not take the augurium publica. There were
> > two (possibly three) auguracula located inside the pomerium that had
> > already been established as templa for the magistrates to take the
> > auguria publica. The one most used was on the Arx beside where Titus
> > Tatius had his home. The other was on the Quirinale Hill, presumably
> > also first established by Titus Tatius. Some other instances where
> > we hear about magistrates taking the auspices is the one case with
> > Consul Tiberius Gracchus in order to hold elections. That was a
> > temporary templum, erected in the garden of Scipio Africanus, and it
> > just happened that Consul Gracchus was also a public augur. His son,
> > Tiberius Gracchus, the beloved Tribunus Plebis, also is mentioned
> > taking auspices, at his home because of the significance of the house
> > of a Tribunus Plebis, and he, too, just happened to be a public
> > augur. But nothing in those stories, or in others concerning
> > auspicia is there any mention of a requirement that augures perform
> > the auspicium. In a couple of stories the magistrate acts as the
> > auspex, and thus must necessarily have been the one to erect both
> > templa, but no mention is given in those cases that the respective
> > magistrates were also augures.
> >
> > Where the services of augures were required to erect templa were in
> > two other related cases. Anything that was struck by lightning had
> > to be properly dealt with. The tree, if that was the case, the soil,
> > a person or animal, whatever was struck, had to be buried in a
> > special way. The round mound under which such articles were buried
> > was called a puteal, and it had to be marked off by an augur who was
> > called specifically in to perform the ritual in order to determine
> > the boundaries of this little shrine. I think it is Flores, in
> > describing some of the shrines on a private estate, who mentions one
> > of these puteals. We can imagine that there might have been quite a
> > few puteals scatered over the countryside. The augur who was called
> > in to perform the rite was not necessarily a public augur. All
> > Romans took auspicia, even women are known to have, and some private
> > citizens, like Attus Naevius might gain a reputation as especially
> > knowledgeable or skilled as an augur, and thus could be called upon
> > to act as an augur in private situations.
> >
> > The other case, where public augures would have been the ones
> > required to erect the templum, was where a public area was being
> > marked off for a special use. Usually this was for a shrine, of
> > which there were different types. Although not all of these public
> > templa were converted into shrines; the Curia being most noted. The
> > augur *sanctified* the area by taking the auspices to determine the
> > boundaries of the shrine, and then directed the marking off of those
> > boundaries. If the intended use of the templum was to erect an
> > edifice, what we call a temple (aedes), then further steps were
> > required to make the site sacred - first the location had to be
> > within the pomerium, the project of erecting the edifice had to be
> > voted on by a comitia, and then the pontifices had to perform the
> > consecratio. In that case only were public augures required to erect
> > the templum, because it was a public project. However such projects
> > had two commisioner charged with overseeing the work and dedication
> > of the edifice, and it may have been that they served as auspices,
> > and thus might have been called augures when theat particular part of
> > the conversion process took place. Other kinds of shrines like a
> > fanum would not necessarily have been consecrated, although some
> > probably were, but would had to have been sanctified by public
> > augures if they were public shrines, or at least by private augures
> > for a private fanum even if intended for public use.
> >
> > The title of augur probaby referred to a functional role in some
> > rites. And as anyone might perfom auspicia, anyone might be called
> > an augur I suppose. But auspex it the title of one who performs the
> > ritual and would be the more technical term in that case. Augur
> > generally carries a connotation of a person who had studied the art
> > of auspicia. So in a family, one uncle might be considered an augur
> > in that family, and he might have been called upon to advise others
> > as an augur. We know that every family kept their own books on
> > augury and that these did not always follw the same procedures or use
> > the same signs as were used in public auspicia. Those who kept such
> > family books and studied them were private augures. But to say an
> > augur was required to erect a templum is a little misleading, and to
> > confuse the term with only those augures who were officially
> > recognized as public priests in the Collegium Augurum, in all
> > situations, in not correct.
> >
> > Valete optime
> > M Moravius Piscinus
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
> > <a_apollonius_cordus@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A. Apollonius Cn. Equitio sal.
> > >
> > > > I've also used the flights of birds as "yes/no" indicators.
> > Establish a
> > > templum in the sky facing east, and wait for the first bird to fly
> > into
> > > it. A bird from the north is a yes, one from the south a no.
> > > <
> > >
> > > We should say, however, that according to ancient Roman augural
> > rules a valid templum for the taking of public auspices could only be
> > established by an augur. I'm not aware that any responsum has ever
> > been given on the subject in Nova Roma, but chapter VI.B.2.b.1 of the
> > lex constitutiva seems to suggest that the same is true in Nova
> > Roma. So any auspices taken in a templum created by a magistrate who
> > is not an augur will probably not amount to valid public auspices.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ___________________________________________________________
> > > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new
> > Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
> > >
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83343 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Congratulations to the Victors!: An Invitation
Iulia Petronio Africano omnibusque S.P.D.

Congratulations on your Victory and the Victory for the Albatae!

For certain this honors our Vestal and fellow Albatae, C. Maria Caeca!

VICTORIA VIQVE VELOCITATE!!!!

Congratulations as well to the Venetae, Minucinus and Praesinae!

A feast will be held in honor of today's Victors at the Villa Iulii this night! Tables will be heavily laden with epic delights and Falerian will flow as the Tiber in rain season! Relax in the elegant gardens, lounge in the crystalline pool whilst golden fish kiss your flesh with pleasure, listen to the exquisite music and poetry of our most talented citizens! Surely my friend Petronius Dexter, of the Venetae, will be there entertaining us with words that slip off his tongue as if the Gods themselves are singing!
Perhaps the Senator shall also share some poetics in the strange but beautiful language of the Gauls! Perhaps also we shall hear the muses speaking through our Consul Venetor and our AC Aeternia!

Esteemed V. Herminius Aquilinus has donated elegant statues of Gods and the famed to the grounds that seem to come alive in individual chiaruscos that reputedly have whispered in more than a few ears. The wings of the great white marble Pegasus is said to provide a cooling breeze chasing away the heat of the day! We will also have games, mostly impromptu although I hear that my consobrine, the new sheriff in town, Praetor Iulius Caesar will be holding a silver polishing contest for the gladiators. Direct all  enquiries to him for further information.
Share tales of glory with our Gladiator stars, mix and mingle with them, our honorable Consuls, Magistrates  Pontifices, esp. My consobrine, the very esteemed Pontifex Maximus Iulius Sabinus, Sacerdotes and our fellow colorful and esteemed citizens!
Food is being provided by the finest chefs masterfully orchestrated by A.Ae Governor Rota. 
C. Clodia Concha, our most sought clothing designer has teamed up with Inner Peacock's own B. Gallus Hilarius to provide magic to every sense as the official event planners for most of the events, feasts and parties in the 13 days of our Birthday celebration!
So again I say come celebrate the Victors and a Jouyeux  Anniversaire to Nova Roma!


VICTORIA VIQVE VELOCITATE!!!!

Vale, et valete, optime,

L. Iulia Aquila
Domina Factionis
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/factio_albata/

How to Join the Whites:
1) Go to your Album Civium page login http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album and click the "My Account" button. 
2)One of the options is "Racing Faction" – choose Albata as your faction
3)Once that is done, you can join this yahoo group! Include Roman Name.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83344 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
Cn. Iulius Caesar Praetor sal.

In support of the Pontifex Maximus' post below, I would like to take some
time to address this matter. The link to the old post references a debate in
2006, when Piscinus was an advocate of Magistrates taking the auspices
themselves. Read his post. I participated in that and recall it well.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/46808

It is clear that in 2006, in Piscinus' mind, Magistrates performed the
auspices. State augurs were not needed in anything other than an advisory
role, at least they weren't in 2006. Magistrates were described as being in
a hands-on role in taking the auspices. Maybe at the time Piscinus was
simply more honest in his statements, or maybe as some were afraid of, it
was part of a deliberate move on his part to make it difficult for a devout
Christian loyal citizen to ever aspire to being a Magistrate of Nova Rome,
because under the Piscinian ideal of 2006 they would have to engage in what
their church would view as a pagan practice. Augurs would no longer provide
that service to Magistrates, they would act as advisors/observers (in a
virtual sense) and make sure it was done correctly. Such was the Piscinian
plan of 2006.

Step forward to 2010. By now Piscinus was locked in an argument with the
then consul, P. Memmius Albucius, who (whether he knew it or not was
following the Piscinian vision of 2006 and performing his own auspices).
Suddenly, because Piscinus didn't have control of the auspices at a critical
time when he was trying to exert pressure on Albucius to play ball with the
plan for the Dictatorship and to play second fiddle to Quintilanus (and yes
many suspect the auspices taken by Piscinus or one of his adherents would
have been for Albucius mysteriously ill omened and would continue so until
Albucius did what Piscinus wanted), suddenly the Piscinian view of auspices
changes! Under the 2010 version, Magistrates had to be tied more closely to
the Augurs. As the year developed Piscinus further developed this into
needing "belief" (no doubt judged by him) as a cultor to perform auspices in
a faithful manner. Suddenly if one was to do it alone as a Magistrate, one
needed a connection to the Gods, no doubt verified by Piscinus (issuing some
sort of certificate? Who knows, but I doubt it would ever have been gifted
to someone who didn't fit into Piscinus clique).

Now, step to 2011 and the Piscinian view has changed again. Now in this
latest post in the CA list (a list hijacked from Nova Roma's control) he has
divined that Magistrates now just instruct the Augurs to perform the
auspices. Oh how convenient, now under his model he would have full control
again of the process of the auspices, full control of the result and full
control over the poltical process (for auspices are needed to call comitia
and Senate). Auspices were frequently a political tool in the old res
publica of Ancient Rome, and today thanks to Piscinus' flexible and elastic
research principles they would be firmly so again, except for one small
issue. He is no longer Pontifex Maximus of Nova Roma. He is no longer an
augur of Nova Roma. Yes - I know his worn out old line, Nova Roma here is
just a minority - all the true believers sit with him elsewhere, no doubt
imbibing his intellectual kool-aid. It's simply untrue, but then some sort
of explanation is necessary to explain away how he ended up as a privatus,
railing and demeaning the res publica of Nova Roma.

How he ended up as nothing is simple. He has a huge inflated ego and could
never negotiate with political opponents and insisted on having his own way
(whatever that is in the moment) by trying to force the Dictatorship through
at any cost, failing miserably and having no bullets left in his gun. So he
essentially quit in all but the formality of resignation. He went off to
found his own version of intellectual truth and probity. The way he explains
it? Well apparently we all left the true Nova Roma, you know his version,
the one built on such "scholarly" research as his, the one over there in the
distance tottering around on its foundation of intellectual sand. That
marshmallow model of intellectual honesty and probity. The product of this
mental flip-flopping in the space of a few years. I accurately predicted to
Sulla last night that his response would be "further research has shown I am
right now" or similar words and indeed I was correct, "the more we augures
have looked into this issue, the more evident what process was used." In
2006 he was adamant he was right, as he was in 2010, and now so in 2011.

It's all an act. It is pure bunkum, nonsense. He just changes the passages
he quotes and the conclusions he reaches to suit his own ends and his
political needs of the moment. He is now Nova Roma's own Sauruman, walled up
in his tower with only a few little Wormtongues to keep him company, decked
out his coat of shifting political colours, leaning out the window yelling
curses and feebly trying to summon the one aspect of "power" he has left,
his words. Words that contradict themselves and increasingly sound even more
trite, jaded and silly.

His worst offence? He is utterly boring intellectually.

Optime valete


-----Original Message-----
From: Sabinus
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: De jure auspicio

SALVE PISCINE!

I don't confound anything as time there is not any comment from my part.
In your message you decided in my place what you believe is more convenient
for me. From where you decided that, I don't know, but I let the people to
judge:
So, here is the Piscinus post from Collegium Augurum list:
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83345 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Today we honor: JUNO
Cn. Lentulus pontifex Quiritibus sal.

During the 13 days of the Ludi Novi Romani, commemorating about the 13 years of Nova Roma, each day is dedicated to honour a deity important in the life of Nova Roma.

On
March 1, we contemplated on Mars and Concordia: on their exciting,
paradox and dynamic relationship and their effect on our Roman republic.
The next day, yesterday, was dies ater. We offered silence to honor the
day.

Today Juno is in the focus of our meditation.

O,
Iuno, Queen of the Gods! What a strange Lady you are... The ancients
said you were an enemy of Rome. You loved Carthage, and hated the
Romans. Your ire, terrifying, cold, royal ire! How many times it turned
on your people, the Romans. Your ire did not spare the Nova Romans,
either. The less virtuous we became in the Romanitas, the more conflict
you created among us...

Let us try it again! Please mighty Queen,
give us a new chance. We ask and beseech you: let the Nova Romans try
it again, to embrace the most sacred Roman virtues and the mos majorum.

Let
us be your virtuous, loyal and faithful sons, again. Choose Nova Roma
as your housing. Choose us, and you'll see, never ending sacrifices will
honor your altar, until the day when Nova Roma will have filled its
sacred mission, and Rome stands again.

"...Juno, nursing the eternal wound in her breast,

spoke
to herself: ‘Am I to abandon my purpose, conquered,

unable
to turn the Teucrian king away from Italy!

Why,
the fates forbid it. Wasn’t Pallas able to burn

the
Argive fleet, to sink it in the sea, because of the guilt

and
madness of one single man, Ajax, son of Oileus?

She
herself hurled Jupiter’s swift fire from the clouds,

scattered
the ships, and made the sea boil with storms:

She
caught him up in a water-spout, as he breathed flame

from
his pierced chest, and pinned him to a sharp rock:

yet
I, who walk about as queen of the gods, wife

and
sister of Jove, wage war on a whole race, for so many years.

Indeed,
will anyone worship Juno’s power from now on,

or
place offerings, humbly, on her altars?’

So
debating with herself, her heart inflamed, the goddess

came
to Aeolia, to the country of storms, the place

of
wild gales." (Vergil, Aeneid I.)

Meditate
on Iuno, New Romans, invoke Her in the name of our Republic. She will hear the
gentle words, She will listen to the chaste prayers. Goddess Iuno,
protect our households, be propitious to our families!

What would you ask from Her, oh Citizen of Nova Roma?

Answer to this message, and tell everyone: what does Juno mean to you?


Visit and read, and if you can, expand this article:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Iuno
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VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83346 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 3
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Here are the third set of questions for the mythology quiz.

Please remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw)
with the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@... or
phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.


Again send them private e-mail.

Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!

Juno-Iuno (Dies 3)
1. Name the Festival held in honor of Juno during March? Name the
animals sacrificed in her honor?
2. Identify the meaning of Juno Sospita?
3. In Virgil�s Aeneid what name is Juno referred as?
4. Name three children Juno gave birth to?

Vale Optime,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83347 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Advertising the Literary Contest
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


So far we have one entrant for the Literary Contest, it would be nice to see
a few more entries.. As a huge supporter of the Arts, I encourage my fellow
writers to participate and also those who may think they may not be a bard
guess what you'll never know until you try so pick up a quill and be
expressive!


Here are the rules listed again.


The Entries can be Compositions of the Following: *Poetry (preferrably),
Satire,
Parody, Dramatic Monologue, Letter Writing, Short Style Theatre (500 words
or less), and Oratory (of one's own creation).*

This years Theme is: "The Roman Gods" -- It can be about **any** Roman
Deity-

We just ask that all submitted pieces be done in good taste and decorum.

The Top Three Entries will be chosen- The Top winner receives a Prize.

And lets not forget our Quintet of Wonderful Judges!

Magistra et Senatrix A. Tullia Scholastica
Praetor Cn. Iulius Caesar
Pontifex L. Iulia Aquila
Praetor M. Cornelius Gualterus Graecus
Aedile Curule Statia Cornelia Aeternia

All Entries must be submitted by March 15th and will be announced on March
20th.

All Entries will be submitted to the list of the Sodalitas Musarum and the
wiki page.

Please submit Entries to the following E-mail address: MusesDream@...
subject header: "Literary Submission"

Gratias et Bona Fortuna!

Vale Optime,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83348 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Salvete omnes

We were quite a big group at the games today. There were friends, friends of friends, relations, relations of relations, and we were lucky to get a block of seats together. The games this year really do seem popular, and we all stood and cheered the aedeles when they climbed up to their seats. Even the factiones managed to stop hurling epithets for long enough to raise their flags in salute. I managed to catch the eye of the girls with the honey cakes, and they brought over a couple of trays that were fresh and moist. We passed them round our group, and there was plenty for all. We really do seem to be living in style. Good food, good entertainment and good company, all in the heart of our beautiful city. What better place could there be in the whole world than Rome.

Some of our group had started laughing, and we wondered what the joke was. "I hadn't told you", said my young nephew, but I'm going to be married. This is my wife to be". He introduced us to the very pretty girl sitting next to him, and we all greeted them with congratulations.

When the games were over, I asked him if they had any plans for the evening, and when he said that they had nothing definite planned, I invited them to join us for a quick drink in a tavern we had discovered.

After we had left the games, most of our group went their separate ways, but we took the young couple along with us to the Eagle where we were sure we would find our usual evening friends. And so it turned out. As we turned the corner, there were Merlinius and Parnesius striding purposefully along, and we hastened to keep up with them. My nephew whispered to me that he was afraid that his intended bride would blush to enter a room full of men, and I caught Merlinius's eye to explain the situation. He smiled broadly, asked Parnesius to go on ahead, and came back to the outer door to meet my nephew and his young lady. I had not realised that Merlinius could be so kind and thoughtful. He was the perfect gentleman, and arranged for drinks to be brought outside for the couple. Then, reaching in his cloak, he brought out a small peacock feather, blew gently on it, and gave it to her. "Thank you", she said, but asked what it meant. "One day you will need it, and when you do, just take it out and you will find what happens. Just keep it safe".

The servant brought the drinks, and the young couple settled down outside, where they could watch the life of the busy city. We went through to our back room, where the fire burned brightly and the couches were arranged around the small table.

"That was kind", I said to Merlinius, "But why a feather?" I asked. "Not just a feather", said Merlinius. "That is a peacock feather. Let's sit down, and that can be our story for this evening". Space was made on the couches, Parnesius had organised the jugs of Falernian, and we all settled down for our talk.

"Tell us about the feather" I asked. "Very good", said Parnesius, and, having taken a sip from his wine jug, got ready for his tale.
"We've talked about Iupiter, greatest and best, and about Minerva, so we ought to talk about the third member of what you Romans call the Capitoline Triad, which is Iuno". There it was again - "You Romans". What strange sort of man was Merlinius, who seemed to be Roman, but obviously thought he was something different? No matter. I let him continue.

"Iuno is the third of that important triad of gods, and her special role is the protector of women in marriage and childbirth. Each man is believed to have a protective guardian spirit called a genius. Each place certainly has its own protective spirit called the genius loci, and each woman also has her own protective spirit called a iuno. These spirits are related to our ancestors, who watch over and protect their descendants. You represent them with carved snakes on your lararia, and make offerings to them on the individual's birthday at your household altar".

Merlinius took another sip of wine and continued.

"Just as Iuno prtoects women and marriage, so she also protects the state of Rome. You remember the story of when Rome was attacked by the Gauls, and the last remaining Romans were seeking refuge on the Capitol. There was a temple there that was sacred to Iuno, but the sacred geese who lived there had run out because of the chaos in the city at that time. The Gauls tried to climb up onto the Capitol at night, using one of the small paths that they knew would not be guarded. It was absolutely silent up on the Capitol. The Romans were afraid to let out any sound in case the Gauls should find where they were. The Gauls were anxious not to make any sound lest the Romans heard them coming and took action. The only things that moved were the sacred geese of Iuno. As soon as they heard the Gauls (because birds have exceptional hearing), they let out a frightful honking noise, that startled the Gauls who fell back in panic, and that awoke the guards who immediately rushed to the path where the Gauls had been climbing up. The sudden noise, the arrival of the guards, and the panic that had already seized them caused the Gauls to hurtle head-first down the steep hillside, and so Rome was eventually saved".
Merlinius took another sip of wine as the men remembered how the Gauls had been defeated by the sacred geese, after which Iuno and her geese were honoured by the name "Moneta", which relates to the warning given by the geese. It was a famous story, and they were pleased to hear again how the gods protected Rome.

"And then there is another story, which tells how Rome was fighting the Tarentines, but needed more money to continue the war. So they prayed to Iuno, as the protectress of the people, and they were given the reply that so long as they fought in a just manner, they would not lack for money. They fought the most noble of campaigns, and the money flowed to them: when the war was over, they confirmed Iuno's name Moneta in gratitude, either for the good advice or for the money itself that was given"

The younger men had now got quite excited by these stories of Roman victories, and waved imaginary swords as they imagined themselves in battle. Parnesius cleared this throat and reminded them of the correct method of using a gladius, and that discipline is key to victory.

Merlinius continued with the reminder that Iuno's main temple was located on the fortified height of the Arx (which means "citadel" or "stronghold") on the Capitoline. "She must have had a temple or sacred place there from early times, and perhaps the location on the highest part of the Capitol had something to do with Juno's attribute as a Sky-Goddess who hurled thunderbolts, or as protectress of the Roman people, as the height there would naturally provide a good vantage point. She could look out over all of Rome, and see any threat to her people, and hurl thunderbolts to keep out the enemies who would attack her".

Wait, what about the peacock feather/" I said. "Ah yes, I mustn't forget that bit. Now Iupiter, greatest and best, was the husband of Iuno, and he came down to earth to visit a beautiful maiden called Io. He was afraid that Iuno would see him, so he covered the whole earth with a blanket of clouds. But Iuno saw the clouds, and at once became suspicious. He saw her coming, and turned Io into a little heifer, and told her it was a present for her. She was still suspicious, so she summoned her faithful guard dog, called Argos, to watch the heifer. Now Argos had one hundred eyes, and never went to sleep with all his eyes shut. Now, Iupiter, greatest and best, sent his messenger, Mercury to talk to Argos, and Mercury talked for so long that eventually Argos did go to sleep with all his eyes closed. And when he was asleep, Mercury killed him".

"Now Iuno was so sad at the death of her dog Argos, that she took his eyes and placed them on the tail of the most beautiful bird in her garden. That bird was the peacock, and whenever you see a peacock you can see the eyes of Argos when a peacock spreads his beautiful tail. So I have given that young bride-to-be a rather special present, and one day she will remember and be glad".

"And as Juno is the Roman Goddess of Marriage, it is no coincidence that June is still considered the proper month for weddings. So I hope they soon name the day".

Merlinius was feeling very pleased with himself as he downed the last of his wine.

"Come on", said Parnesius. "We'll be late for the night rounds if you don't hurry". And off they went into the night, leaving us to make sure the young couple made it home safely.

Valete omnes

Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83349 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: a.d. V Non. Mar.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Salvete omnes!

Hodie est ante diem V Nones Martias; haec dies comitialis est.

"He [Numa Pompilius] appointed two additional Flamens, one for Mars,
the other for Quirinus, and also chose virgins as priestesses to
Vesta. This order of priestesses came into existence originally in
Alba and was connected with the race of the founder. He assigned them
a public stipend that they might give their whole time to the temple,
and made their persons sacred and inviolable by a vow of chastity and
other religious sanctions. Similarly he chose twelve `Salii' for Mars
Gradivus, and assigned to them the distinctive dress of an embroidered
tunic and over it a brazen cuirass. They were instructed to march in
solemn procession through the City, carrying the twelve shields called
the `Ancilia,' and singing hymns accompanied by a solemn dance in
triple time." - Livy, History of Rome 1.20

Jupiter, make true the words of your pledge.'
As he [Numa Pompilius] spoke, the sun's full disc appeared,
And a loud crash came from the depths of the sky.
Three times the god thundered, and hurled his lightning,
From cloudless air, believe what I say, wonderful but true.
The sky began to split open at the zenith:
The crowd and its leader lifted their eyes.
Behold, a shield fell, trembling in the light breeze.
The sound of the crowd's shouting reached the stars.
The king first sacrificed a heifer that had never known
The yoke, then raised the gift from the ground,
And called it ancile, because it was cut away (recisum)
All round, and there wasn't a single angle to note.
Then, remembering the empire's fate was involved,
He thought of a very cunning idea.
He ordered many shields cut in the same shape,
In order to confuse the eyes of any traitor.
Mamurius carried out the task: whether he was superior
In his craft or his character it would be hard to say.
Gracious Numa said to him: `Ask a reward for your work,
You'll not ask in vain of one known for honesty.'
He'd already given the Salii, named from their leaping (saltus),
Weapons: and words to be sung to a certain tune." - Ovid, Fasti III

"The sixth division of his religious institutions was devoted to those
the Romans call Salii, whom Numa himself appointed out of the
patricians, choosing twelve young men of the most graceful appearance.
These are the Salii whose holy things are deposited on the Palatine
hill and who are themselves called the (Salii) Palatini; for the
(Salii) Agonales, by some called the Salii Collini, the repository of
whose holy things is on the Quirinal Hill, were appointed after Numa's
time by King Hostilius, in pursuance of a vow he had made in the war
against the Sabines. All these Salii are a kind of dancers and singers
of hymns in praise of the gods of war. Their festival falls about the
time of the Panathenaea, in the month which they call March, and is
celebrated at the public expense for many days, during which they
proceed through the city with their dances to the Forum and to the
Capitol and to many other places both private and public. They wear
embroidered tunics girt about with wide girdles of bronze, and over
these are fastened, with brooches, robes striped with scarlet and
bordered with purple, which they call trabeae; this garment is
peculiar to the Romans and a mark of the greatest honour. On their
heads they wear apices, as they are called, that is, high caps
contracted into the shape of a cone, which the Greeks call kyrbasiai.
They have each of them a sword hanging at their girdle and in their
right hand they hold a spear or a staff or something else of the sort,
and on their left arm a Thracian buckler,which resembles a
lozenge-shaped shield with its sides drawn in, such as those are said
to carry who among the Greeks perform the sacred rites of the Curetes.
And, in my opinion at least, the Salii, if the word be translated into
Greek, are Curetes, whom, because they are kouroi or "young men," we
call by that name from their age, whereas the Romans call them Salii
from their lively motions. For to leap and skip is by them called
salire; and for the same reason they call all other dancers
saltatores, deriving their name from the Salii, because their dancing
also is attended by much leaping and capering. Whether I have been
well advised or not in giving them this appellation, anyone who
pleases may gather from their actions. For they execute their
movements in arms, keeping time to a flute, sometimes all together,
sometimes by turns, and while dancing sing certain traditional hymns.
But this dance and exercise performed by armed men and the noise they
make by striking their bucklers with their daggers, if we may base any
conjectures on the ancient accounts, was originated by the Curetes." -
Dionysius of Halicarnassus, 2.70

The festival of Mars was celebrated by the Salii on the 1st of March
and for several successive days; on which occasion they were
accustomed to go through the city in their official dress carrying the
ancilia in their left hands or suspended from their shoulders, and at
the same time singing and dancing. In the dance they struck the
shields with rods or weapons so as to keep time with their voices and
with the movements of the dance.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83350 From: Aqvillivs Rota Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
Salvete Scholastica, Iulia et Aeternia,

thanks again, you do a great job of keeping us informed about Caeca.
Thanks in the name of the Province.
May the good Spirits of yours be with Caeca and help her getting better!


Rota

--- On Thu, 3/3/11, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...> wrote:

From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 5:23 AM







 









A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.



After several days without news, two of us were able to reach the

hospital this evening, and got some information on Caeca¹s condition. The

nurse was far less cooperative than the previous one I had reached, but we

(Aeternia and I, separately) managed to ascertain that there is some

improvement; she is less critical, and under less sedation. Aeternia

managed to learn that skin graft surgery on Caeca¹s hand was successful, and

I learnt that they are trying to get her to eat (possibly real food, not

just the liquid via a stomach tube which she has been receiving), and that

she is off the rotating bed, but that this nurse knew nothing about the

previously-planned rib cage surgery.



We are trying to get there, but until Caeca is off the respirator and

out of the ICU, visits must be confined to those who do not live hundreds or

thousands of miles away. Recently she was not allowed any visitors at all,

and the ICU visits are typically confined to 15 minutes at very limited

times of day.



We will try to keep you posted.



Valete.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83351 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
Salve Rota et Salvete Omnes,

Thank you. Caeca is very very missed and loved...


Vale et Valete,
Aeterni

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Aqvillivs Rota
<c.aqvillivs_rota@...>wrote:

>
>
> Salvete Scholastica, Iulia et Aeternia,
>
> thanks again, you do a great job of keeping us informed about Caeca.
> Thanks in the name of the Province.
> May the good Spirits of yours be with Caeca and help her getting better!
>
> Rota
>
> --- On Thu, 3/3/11, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...> wrote:
>
> From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...>
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostr�
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 5:23 AM
>
>
>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> After several days without news, two of us were able to reach the
>
> hospital this evening, and got some information on Caeca�s condition. The
>
> nurse was far less cooperative than the previous one I had reached, but we
>
> (Aeternia and I, separately) managed to ascertain that there is some
>
> improvement; she is less critical, and under less sedation. Aeternia
>
> managed to learn that skin graft surgery on Caeca�s hand was successful,
> and
>
> I learnt that they are trying to get her to eat (possibly real food, not
>
> just the liquid via a stomach tube which she has been receiving), and that
>
> she is off the rotating bed, but that this nurse knew nothing about the
>
> previously-planned rib cage surgery.
>
> We are trying to get there, but until Caeca is off the respirator and
>
> out of the ICU, visits must be confined to those who do not live hundreds
> or
>
> thousands of miles away. Recently she was not allowed any visitors at all,
>
> and the ICU visits are typically confined to 15 minutes at very limited
>
> times of day.
>
> We will try to keep you posted.
>
> Valete.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83352 From: publiusalbucius Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De Vestali nostra
Scholasticae s.d.

Thanks for these last news about Caeca Vestalis.
Let us cross fingers and go on praying Vesta, Apollo, Aesculapius and Salus.

Vale,


Albucius csr


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@...> wrote:
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> After several days without news, two of us were able to reach the
> hospital this evening, and got some information on Caeca¹s condition. The
> nurse was far less cooperative than the previous one I had reached, but we
> (Aeternia and I, separately) managed to ascertain that there is some
> improvement; she is less critical, and under less sedation. Aeternia
> managed to learn that skin graft surgery on Caeca¹s hand was successful, and
> I learnt that they are trying to get her to eat (possibly real food, not
> just the liquid via a stomach tube which she has been receiving), and that
> she is off the rotating bed, but that this nurse knew nothing about the
> previously-planned rib cage surgery.
>
> We are trying to get there, but until Caeca is off the respirator and
> out of the ICU, visits must be confined to those who do not live hundreds or
> thousands of miles away. Recently she was not allowed any visitors at all,
> and the ICU visits are typically confined to 15 minutes at very limited
> times of day.
>
> We will try to keep you posted.
>
> Valete.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83353 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-03
Subject: Re: De Vestali nostrá
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Aquillio Rotae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> Salvete Scholastica, Iulia et Aeternia,
>
> thanks again, you do a great job of keeping us informed about Caeca.
>
> ATS: We are trying. It is fiendishly difficult extracting any
> information from these nurses, who seem to think that one must have a high
> security clearance from the FBI before being allowed to learn anything about
> the welfare of their friends. The one was very helpful when I provided enough
> personal information about her that he could not doubt that I knew her well,
> but the others...
>
> Forgot to mention that she was to have some surgery today; not sure just
> what, but the nurse seemed to be unaware of the next biggie they had planned,
> so perhaps it was a minor infection cleanup. That makes five or six
> surgeries already...
>
>
> Thanks in the name of the Province.
>
> ATS: You’re welcome!
>
> May the good Spirits of yours be with Caeca and help her getting better!
>
> ATS: We certainly hope so! Hope she got the message I tried to relay last
> night. Is there any chance that you or a family member could get to Atlanta
> and check in on her? You’re a lot nearer than the rest of us...we do want the
> hospital people to know that she has live people caring about her and checking
> up on her. We can provide the hospital name and telephone number to you
> privately.
>
>
> Rota
>
> Vale, et valete!
>
> --- On Thu, 3/3/11, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...
> <mailto:fororom%40localnet.com> > wrote:
>
> From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...
> <mailto:fororom%40localnet.com> >
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 5:23 AM
>
>  
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
> After several days without news, two of us were able to reach the
>
> hospital this evening, and got some information on Caeca¹s condition. The
>
> nurse was far less cooperative than the previous one I had reached, but we
>
> (Aeternia and I, separately) managed to ascertain that there is some
>
> improvement; she is less critical, and under less sedation. Aeternia
>
> managed to learn that skin graft surgery on Caeca¹s hand was successful, and
>
> I learnt that they are trying to get her to eat (possibly real food, not
>
> just the liquid via a stomach tube which she has been receiving), and that
>
> she is off the rotating bed, but that this nurse knew nothing about the
>
> previously-planned rib cage surgery.
>
> We are trying to get there, but until Caeca is off the respirator and
>
> out of the ICU, visits must be confined to those who do not live hundreds or
>
> thousands of miles away. Recently she was not allowed any visitors at all,
>
> and the ICU visits are typically confined to 15 minutes at very limited
>
> times of day.
>
> We will try to keep you posted.
>
> Valete.
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83354 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the results of the
quarterfinals from the Flavian Amphitheater for the Munera Gladiatoria of the
Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!

It has been another fine day with plenty of sunshine and the promise of a
beautiful spring season ahead. The amphitheater was nearly full and the crowd
was passionate and enthusiastic. I spotted a number of red banners proudly
waving even though the gladiators of the Ludus Russatus were eliminated during
yesterday's contests.

The first three matches of the day were quickly over as the match ups proved to
be very lopsided. Sura defeated Pricus while hardly breaking a sweat. There was
a distinct sense of disappointment in the air from the many young women who were
hoping Pricus would win this tournament. Then Llacheu came out flashing some
dazzling double sword magic against Tinashe, earning the loudest and longest
cheers and applause of the day from the spectators when he won the fight. After
his match I noticed four different vendors approached Llancheu, most likely to
discuss product endorsement deals. Then Drest and Bjarni faced off in what may
have been the most mismatched pairing of the tournament. Bjarni lost after less
than two minutes of combat when Drest successfully took advantage of several
weaknesses in Bjarni's all out assault.

The last match of the quarterfinals pitted Aello the Amazon, a female Retiarius,
against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. After yesterday's action, it seemed most
of the fans expected Attalus to launch a charge right away. But Attalus was
cautious and determined. Rumors circulated in the arena and the press boxes as
many fans noticed Attalus exhibited a bit of a droop in his shield position that
seemed to be out of character. While not yet confirmed from his lanista or
publicist, there was speculation he was hurt when he hit Suffocatrix with his
second charge in yesterday's final fight. This afternoon's match up between
Attalus and Aello was the most tightly contested and balanced fight of the day.
For more than 15 minutes Aello proved to be a formidable fighter, pressing in on
Attalus numerous times with accuracy and great strength. In the end, the speed
and stamina of Attalus proved superior to the height and native skill of Aello.
The match ended when Aello lunged with her trident and stumbled as Attalus
dodged her thrust, spun around and struck Aello in the back with his shield.
Aello fell to the ground and Attalus found her neck with his sword. Fortunately,
her most serious injury was to her pride but I am confident we have not seen the
last of Aello!

Match
Competitors
Winner
Ludus
1 Sura vs. Pricus Sura Albatus
2 Llacheu vs. Tinashe Llacheu Venetus
3 Drest vs. Bjarni Drest Praesinus
4 Attalus the Briton vs. Aello the Amazon Attalus Municius

At the end of the quarterfinals, Albatus, Municius, Praesinus and Venetus each
had a gladiator moving on to the semifinals in two days. In a show of great
respect and honor, the gladiators who lost their quarterfinal matches asked to
complete their consolation round immediately to give all of the competitors a
day off for what promises to be a spectacular celebration of Neptunus and the
Sea tomorrow. After two rounds of fighting, the Fates played out their hands for
the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th place gladiators.

Well, that does it for our coverage of the quarterfinals. This is Marcus
Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we
will see you here again on Sunday for the Munera Gladiatoria Semifinals!

Di vos incolumes custodiant!
M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83355 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 4 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be
posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time on 13
March 2764.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne

See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

Here are the questions for 4 March 2764 - Day 4 of the ludi:

Question #10. Cassius Longinus' investigation in 114 BC condemned 3 Vestals on
charges of unchastity. What additional steps were taken after the Senate
consulted the Libri Sibyllini?

Question #11. By a law of the Comitia Tributa Sextus Peducaeus had the
investigation of what religious portent taken out of the hands of the
pontifices?

Question #12. The citizens of Nova Roma are members of urban and rural tribes.
How does a member of a rural tribe become a member of an urban tribe?
For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!



M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83356 From: QFabiusMaxmi@aol.com Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for Ludi N...
> The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a
Retiarius,
> pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast
with
> Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by
the
> impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when
Attalus
> launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the
arena.
> The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
> amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on
the
> Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their
wagers.

Except Secutors did not fight Retiarii Junkelmann has it wrong. Remember,
Junkelmann, is marketing Gladiator Warfare as a LARP, so he doesn't care
about historical accuracy
A number of ancient authors,such as Valerius and the Christian author
Quintillian assert that he fought the Murmillio(fish like) which would make
sense since you net a fish. Males did not fight female Gladiators except
in Britannia so I suspect Atalus wouldn't care.

Since a Secutor was fighting either Samnite or Gallic style they were
pitted against heavy armed Gladiators so they could use their speed to avoid
sword slashes, and their muscles to crush the bone under the armor when they
struck. That poor Retiarius stood no chance, and anyone who bet for her
was an idiot.
The Secondus never should have accepted the bout.

Fabius

>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83357 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Map of Roman Empire circa 400 AD
Salvete omnes,



My apologies for cross posting but being a admirer of good maps I couldn't
resist to share this link. The map looks very good. It can be found here:



http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Roman_Empire_ca_400_AD.png



Valete optime,

Crassus



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83358 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: a.d. IV Non. Mar.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodie est ante diem IV Nones Martias; haec dies comitialis est.

"Lord Dionysos, hear! We thank You for
this gift of wine, now mixed as You have taught,
and pray its potent force will always be
of benefit to us, both now and evermore." - Hyginus, Poetica
Astronomica II.4

In ancient Greece, today was the beginning of the Anthesteria, one of
the four Athenian festivals in honour of Dionysus, held annually for
three days (11th-13th) in the month of Anthesterion (the
February/March full moon). At the center of the festival was the
celebration of the maturing of the wine stored at the previous
vintage, and the beginning of spring. The festival was likely
celebrated for more than two millennia, from before 1500 BC to after
AD 500.

During the feast, social order was interrupted or inverted, the slaves
being allowed to participate, uniting the household in ancient
fashion. The Anthesteria also have aspects of a festival of the dead
who freely roamed the city, comparable to the Roman Feast of the
Lemures, the expulsion of ancestral ghosts: comparable to All Souls'
Night and carnival. Either the Keres or the Carians were entertained,
and expelled from the city after the festival, symbolizing either the
souls of the dead or the aboriginal inhabitants of Attica. A Greek
proverb, employed of those who pestered for continued favours, ran
"Out of doors, Keres! It is no longer Anthesteria".

On the first day, called Pithoigia (opening of the casks), libations
were offered from the newly opened casks to the god of wine, all the
household, including servants and slaves, joining in the festivities.
The rooms and the drinking vessels in them were adorned with spring
flowers, as were also the children over three years of age.

The second day, named Choes (feast of beakers), was a time of
merrymaking. The people dressed themselves gaily, some in the disguise
of the mythical personages in the suite of Dionysus, and paid a round
of visits to their acquaintances. Drinking clubs met to organize
drink-off matches, the winner being he who drained his cup most
rapidly. Others poured libations on the tombs of deceased relatives.
On the part of the state this day was the occasion of a peculiarly
solemn and secret ceremony in one of the sanctuaries of Dionysus in
the Lenaeum, which for the rest of the year was closed. The basilissa
(or basilinna), wife of the archon basileus for the duration, went
through a ceremony of marriage to the wine god, in which she was
assisted by fourteen Athenian matrons, called geraerae, chosen by the
basileus and sworn to secrecy. The days on which the Pithoigia and
Choes were celebrated were both regarded as unlucky and defiled,
necessitating expiatory libations; on them the souls of the dead came
up from the underworld and walked abroad; according to Photius, people
chewed leaves of buckthorn and besmeared their doors with tar to
protect themselves from evil. But at least in private circles the
festive character of the ceremonies predominated.

The third day was named Chytroi (feast of pots), a festival of the
dead. Cooked pulse was offered to Hermes Chthonios, Hermes in his
capacity of a god of the lower world, and to the souls of the dead,
who were then bidden to depart. None of the Olympians were included
and no one tasted the pottage, which was food of the dead. Although no
performances were allowed at the theatre, a sort of rehearsal took
place, at which the players for the ensuing dramatic festival were
selected.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83359 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: De jure auspicio
C. Petronius Piscino sal.,

> Sabine, you are trying to accomodate those who do not believe in our Gods so that they may take auspicia in the name of the State.

Funny. You claimed as impious a cultor deorum, the consul P. Albucius, because he performed himself the auspicies and now you imagine that the magistrates have to perform the auspicies, in order to prevent any christian magistrate to take the auspicies.

The magistrates have the auspicia, they do not perform them.

> That is not about religion. That is politics. You are trying to politicise the ars augurum for deviant political purposes.

Sabinus does not want it, but you, last year, did it. And more, you did not try, you actually politicised the ars auspicandi for your deviant political coup. Do not you remember?

vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IV Nonas Martias P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83360 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Gladiator combat rules
Salve, Fabio!

Well, if we are going to be strict reconstructionists then I do not see how we
could run a single elimination tournament as that does not seem to be how arena
combat was organized. ;) Nor how we could include Dimachaeri since there does
not appear to be any significant evidence, either in written or graphic form,
for them as an actual class of gladiator.


There are written sources that say Retiarii fought both Secutores and
Murmillones and there are a number of mosaics that show combat between a
Retiarius and Secutor.


"Once a band of five retiarii in tunics, matched against the same number of
secutores, yielded without a struggle; but when their death was ordered, one of
them caught up his trident and slew all the victors. Caligula bewailed this in a
public proclamation as a most cruel murder, and expressed his horror of those
who had had the heart to witness it." Suetonius, Life of Caligula, XXX.3

I am sure Secutores fought against classes of gladiator other than Retiarii. By
the time of Nero pretty much any gladiator in Samnite style gear would likely
have be called a Secutor with fans from the secutarii faction supporting them at
the games.

What seems absolutely clear to me is there were few hard and fast rules for the
games regarding pairings. Lanistae and editores more likely organized combat
based on entertainment value and perceived return on investment. Basically,
although the gladiators were treated like modern major league athletes, their
sport operated much more like pro wrestling than world cup soccer or major
league baseball. The rules and sportsmanship were important but coming up with
novel entertainment and unexpected elements may have been just as important.


I hope that we can develop a good set of rules for the arena as I have, for the
most part, simply cleaned up the rules that were used in 2761 and, I believe,
last year. More work needs to be done and I can see the need for a number of
tweaks now that I have run the rules through a tournament. I did not want to
make too many changes to the rules at one time since they appear to have used
for a few years and CAs wanted to remove both animal combat and deaths, which
seemed to be fairly big changes. But reworking the table of adjustments for
combat between different classes, including rules for handedness and keeping the
genders segregated are all worthy of further consideration.


Optime vale!


M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis





________________________________
From: "QFabiusMaxmi@..." <QFabiusMaxmi@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 11:56:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Munera Gladiatoria Qualification Round Results for
Ludi N...



> The last match of the day had our second female com Suffocatrix, a
Retiarius,
> pitted against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. The match started off fast
with
> Attalus charging Suffocatrix and knocking her to the ground. Stunned by
the
> impact and a bit slow to get back up, she was knocked out cold when
Attalus
> launched a second charge that threw Suffocatrix against the side of the
arena.
> The last and quickest match of day was over in less the one minute! The
> amphitheater was filled with sound as many citizens who had gambled on
the
> Suffocatrix took in the second charge and realized they lost their
wagers.

Except Secutors did not fight Retiarii Junkelmann has it wrong. Remember,
Junkelmann, is marketing Gladiator Warfare as a LARP, so he doesn't care
about historical accuracy
A number of ancient authors,such as Valerius and the Christian author
Quintillian assert that he fought the Murmillio(fish like) which would make
sense since you net a fish. Males did not fight female Gladiators except
in Britannia so I suspect Atalus wouldn't care.

Since a Secutor was fighting either Samnite or Gallic style they were
pitted against heavy armed Gladiators so they could use their speed to avoid
sword slashes, and their muscles to crush the bone under the armor when they
struck. That poor Retiarius stood no chance, and anyone who bet for her
was an idiot.
The Secondus never should have accepted the bout.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83361 From: Libero Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 4 of Ludi Nov
What are the actual rankings?



Gallus



_____

Da: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] Per conto
di M. Pompeius Caninus
Inviato: venerdì 4 marzo 2011 8.57
A: Nova Roma
Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 4 of Ludi Novi
Romani 2764





M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will
be
posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a

private email at m.pompeius@... <mailto:m.pompeius%40yahoo.com>
before 11:59 PM Rome Time on 13
March 2764.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne

See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

Here are the questions for 4 March 2764 - Day 4 of the ludi:

Question #10. Cassius Longinus' investigation in 114 BC condemned 3 Vestals
on
charges of unchastity. What additional steps were taken after the Senate
consulted the Libri Sibyllini?

Question #11. By a law of the Comitia Tributa Sextus Peducaeus had the
investigation of what religious portent taken out of the hands of the
pontifices?

Question #12. The citizens of Nova Roma are members of urban and rural
tribes.
How does a member of a rural tribe become a member of an urban tribe?
For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83362 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Questions Dies 4
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Here are the fourth set of questions for the mythology quiz.

Please remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw)
with the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@... or
phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.


Again send them private e-mail.
Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!


*Minerva (Dies 4)*
* *

1. Minerva is worshipped as one of the Capitoline Triad with what other two
gods?

2. Identify three things Minerva is known to be goddess of?

3. Minerva is closely associated with what Celtic goddess?





P.S. Stay tuned for Day 2 of the Latin Quiz, Our Tribute to Minerva, and
our Triclinium Chat!





Vale Optime,

Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83363 From: GeorgeV Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 276
salvete Omenes,

What great games these have been. Sura has done well and the gods look upon him with favor. I am glad to report the Aello is recoverying quicklyhe mineral baths. She has been encourged by her first two matches and is looking forward to getting back to training. Tinshe was disappopinted in his lost. He also will be back again for the next games. His training will be more disciplained.

The white still have Sura to cheer up during the next match.

Valete
C. Pteronius Africanus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Pompeius Caninus" <m.pompeius@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the results of the
> quarterfinals from the Flavian Amphitheater for the Munera Gladiatoria of the
> Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!
>
> It has been another fine day with plenty of sunshine and the promise of a
> beautiful spring season ahead. The amphitheater was nearly full and the crowd
> was passionate and enthusiastic. I spotted a number of red banners proudly
> waving even though the gladiators of the Ludus Russatus were eliminated during
> yesterday's contests.
>
> The first three matches of the day were quickly over as the match ups proved to
> be very lopsided. Sura defeated Pricus while hardly breaking a sweat. There was
> a distinct sense of disappointment in the air from the many young women who were
> hoping Pricus would win this tournament. Then Llacheu came out flashing some
> dazzling double sword magic against Tinashe, earning the loudest and longest
> cheers and applause of the day from the spectators when he won the fight. After
> his match I noticed four different vendors approached Llancheu, most likely to
> discuss product endorsement deals. Then Drest and Bjarni faced off in what may
> have been the most mismatched pairing of the tournament. Bjarni lost after less
> than two minutes of combat when Drest successfully took advantage of several
> weaknesses in Bjarni's all out assault.
>
> The last match of the quarterfinals pitted Aello the Amazon, a female Retiarius,
> against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. After yesterday's action, it seemed most
> of the fans expected Attalus to launch a charge right away. But Attalus was
> cautious and determined. Rumors circulated in the arena and the press boxes as
> many fans noticed Attalus exhibited a bit of a droop in his shield position that
> seemed to be out of character. While not yet confirmed from his lanista or
> publicist, there was speculation he was hurt when he hit Suffocatrix with his
> second charge in yesterday's final fight. This afternoon's match up between
> Attalus and Aello was the most tightly contested and balanced fight of the day.
> For more than 15 minutes Aello proved to be a formidable fighter, pressing in on
> Attalus numerous times with accuracy and great strength. In the end, the speed
> and stamina of Attalus proved superior to the height and native skill of Aello.
> The match ended when Aello lunged with her trident and stumbled as Attalus
> dodged her thrust, spun around and struck Aello in the back with his shield.
> Aello fell to the ground and Attalus found her neck with his sword. Fortunately,
> her most serious injury was to her pride but I am confident we have not seen the
> last of Aello!
>
> Match
> Competitors
> Winner
> Ludus
> 1 Sura vs. Pricus Sura Albatus
> 2 Llacheu vs. Tinashe Llacheu Venetus
> 3 Drest vs. Bjarni Drest Praesinus
> 4 Attalus the Briton vs. Aello the Amazon Attalus Municius
>
> At the end of the quarterfinals, Albatus, Municius, Praesinus and Venetus each
> had a gladiator moving on to the semifinals in two days. In a show of great
> respect and honor, the gladiators who lost their quarterfinal matches asked to
> complete their consolation round immediately to give all of the competitors a
> day off for what promises to be a spectacular celebration of Neptunus and the
> Sea tomorrow. After two rounds of fighting, the Fates played out their hands for
> the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th place gladiators.
>
> Well, that does it for our coverage of the quarterfinals. This is Marcus
> Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we
> will see you here again on Sunday for the Munera Gladiatoria Semifinals!
>
> Di vos incolumes custodiant!
> M. Pompeius Caninus
> Bethel, Alaska, USA
> America Boreoccidentalis
>
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>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83364 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of the Day (C. Maria Caeca)
Sta. Cornelia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


This piece was written by our Esteemed Vestalis C. Maria Caeca, and we
discussed this in private posting this piece on the day of Minerva.
Although it is written towards Athena, I found this very beautiful like all
of Caeca's work.


Please enjoy!



*Penelope's Lament*

O Athene! Grey-eyed Goddess,
You who capture knowledge and
In whom all wisdom abides, you
Whose deft fingers weave the
Colors of the heart into a web
That can touch and teach, I
Extend my hands to you,
Beseeching, as I have done
Each dawn, for 10 long years,
Your guidance, your help,
That, once again, I may defy
And deceive those who would
Take from my beloved all that he
Has built, and me, as prize. By
The wan light held by Artemis, did I
Unravel, yet again, yesterday's tapestry
And now, I will go back into the hall, speak
Fair words of future promise .and weave again,
Changing a hue here, a leaf there, making the web
Just a little different, in ways that cannot be quite
Defined, so that they will think it new. I will listen
Once again, to their entreaties, their blandishments,
Their unceasing demands, suggestive glances,
And make no outcry of dishonor, lest they
Abandon the tactic of persuasion, and
Enforce their wills with sword and destruction.

My son, my Telemechus, vessel of my hopes
Is still too young, still to inexperienced to
Confront them. But he grows, HE GROWS,
Each day I can deceive, I buy him time. But, oh,

I yearn for my beloved! My Ulysses, so strong,
So wise and cunning, who knows the hearts of men
And the hearts of women, too. I well remember how
Gentle he was with his new bride, how tender
And how thoughtful, that I not be humiliated by
His other women. I knew, of course .how
Could I not? And they are now, I know,
But I also know that he will come home to me
If life persists. I know that, at the end,
When he turns his face away from life, mine
Will be the hand he holds.
His last words of love will be
For me, as mine have always been
For him, and it is enough.

So, I will adorn myself, and go into my own battle
With my son beside me, and the image of my husband
Held fast in my heart .but Oh, Athene,
You of undaunted courage, warrior, protector,
It has been 10 long years, and I am soul weary!

*©2010 C. Maria Caeca
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83365 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Salvete omnes

It had been an exciting day. I had managed to discover the shop where they sold the famous honey cakes. We had all heard of their reputation, so I had treated us all to some that we all enjoyed as our afternoon snack. So when it was time to leave we were no longer hungry, but we agreed that we would go round to the tavern of the Eagle and see who was going to show up there for a jug of wine.

We had just arrived in the street, when we saw our two acquaintances, Merlinius and Parnesius ahead of us. We quickly followed them because we wanted to get a good seat for the evening's talk. As we went in, we could see that the back room, with its welcoming fire, was already beginning to fill up, so we wasted no time in making our way to the centre of the room where the couches and small table awaited us.

The landlord greeted us all warmly, for he had been glad of the trade that had come into his tavern this week, "All the traders, but especially the tavern-keepers, like the games" he said "Sometimes spirits can run a bit high, but the trade is always good. Now, what would you like to have?"

We all looked over at Merlinius, who mouthed the word "Falernian" to us. That was certainly his favourite wine, and, though expensive, its flavour and strength were unusually satisfying, so that the evening's drinks were not too much more expensive. We all put our money together, and the landlord summoned the servant and sent him off to fill the wine jugs for our party.

By the time we had all nestled down on the couches, on the floor and around the table, the wine arrived and we all looked at Merlinius for a story.

"Well", he asked, "what will it be this time?" I am a very old man, and I remember so many stories from all over the world of Rome, and even from those countries that lie beyond your roads," We had already noticed, on earlier evenings, that although he seemed to be part Roman, there was also something about him that said that he was, had been, and would always be, something apart from Rome. Still, he was obviously a friend of Rome, and a friend of the Eagles, both those of Parnesius and our own small tavern, so we welcomed him as our friend too.

"Why not tell us about some of the gods from Britannia?" asked one of the men. "They must be very different from our Roman gods".
"Not so very different", said Minervius. "In fact when the Eagles arrived, they discovered that many of the local gods were very like the ones they had brought with them. My friend Parnesius knows one of them because he was posted to the great baths there, where the goddess is very like your goddess Minerva, so I will tell you her story."

We all settled down ready for the tale, and tasted our wine, which was, as ever, the best.

"With Minerva, even her birth was strange. Iuppiter, greatest and the best, had a terrific pain in his head, which just grew worse and worse, and no one could think what to do to relieve his agony. Then along came Volcanus, and, before anyone could stop him, he hit Iuppiter, greatest and best, on his head with his hammer. The other gods were furious, but then, to their amazement, Iuppiter, greatest and best, stood up, his pain had gone, and there stood Minerva, fully grown and completely armed".

Everyone looked at Merlinius in astonishment at this tale. But he went on "This was all in the old days, before Rome, and one of the Greek heroes was called Perseus. Minerva helped the hero Perseus to kill the gorgon Medusa, who was a monster with snakes instead of hair. Anyone who looked at a gorgon turned to stone! But Minerva told Perseus to look at Medusa's reflection in a polished shield. That way he could cut its head off without looking directly at the gorgon. Perseus gave the head to Minerva, who put it on her shield, so it would turn her enemies to stone. So carvings in the temples of Minerva, like the ones at Aquae Sulis, often have the head of the gorgon, with snakes as the hair,to remind us of that story."

Parnesius had seen those carvings, and he confirmed that this was indeed true. Merlinius took a few more sips of his wine and continued.

"One of the most remarkable of her adventures was her contest with Neptune. When the gods agreed that whoever of these two deities could produce the most beneficial gift to mankind should have a special honour, Neptune, with a stroke of his trident, created a horse, but Minerva caused an olive-tree to spring from the ground, And because all men use the oil of the olives from everything from their food to lighting their lamps, Minerva obtained the prize".

"And that was only one of her gifts to men. She is the goddess who protects against war, she rules over wisdom, and the arts. In a word, she is the patroness of all those sciences which render men useful to society and themselves, and entitle them to the esteem of posterity".

"Whenever she is represented by the sculptors and painters she stands, completely armed, with a composed but smiling countenance, bearing a golden breast-plate, a spear in her right hand, and the Aegis in her left, having on it the head of Medusa, entwined with snakes. Her helmet is usually encompassed with olives, to denote that peace follows war, and it also reminds us that the olive tree was sacred to her. At her feet stand either the owl or the cock, one being the emblem of wisdom, and the other of war. The owl is a bird that sees in the dark, and is sacred to Minerva because she sees the things that others are blind to"

"Let me tell you about her and the spider. There was once a woman called Arachne who was talented in embroidery and weaving. Her work was so beautiful that even the nymphs would leave their sacred groves to come and stare at her work. But Arachne grew proud, and said that she was even more skilled than Minerva, and would challenge her to a contest. When Minerva heard this, she became angry. She told Arachne that she could challenge her fellow mortals, but that she must not dare to challenge a goddess. They each weaved a tapestry, but Arachne's tapestry was insulting to the gods.

So Minerva snatched Arachne's shuttle and tore her tapestry to pieces in her anger. Minerva touched Arachne on her forehead to make her realise her guilt, and in her shame Arachne hanged herself. But Minerva took pity on her, and turned her into a spider. Like a spider she hangs from a single thread, and like a spider she spins webs of gossamer that are lighter and more beautifully woven than the work of any embroiderer".

Merlinius took another sip of his wine while the men nodded their heads to this story. They realised that it was true that men must not mock the gods, But they also understood how the gods love men so that they forgive them and reward them by giving them great gifts in reward for their talents.

Merlinius had nearly finished his wine, so he emptied his jug and concluded his story.

"So, when you see a little spider spinning its web, don't harm it. Remember that this little creature was made by the gods, and reminds us that the simple beauties of the world are all given to us by those gods to teach us to honour and respect them".

Parnesius too had now finished his wine. "That was another good story, old friend. But the lamps are being filled with oil, and lit for the night. Come on, let's go and check on the guards."
And off they went into the night.

Valete omnes
Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83366 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Salvete, Quirites!

What is with you, Romans? Come on now, let's show to the world there is at least 10 of you who can do this Contest! :) Only M. Pompeius Caninus and V. Valerius Volusus answered Question #1 - glory to these two gentlemen, saving Nova Roma from shame! :)

M. Pompeius Caninus 16 pts (all answers correct!!)
V. Valerius Volusus 14 pts

It's ludi time, people! Let's celebrate and honor good old Mother Nova Roma with some playing and gaming! Follow the example of these two outstanding Romans above.

Now I *EXTEND* the deadline for the first set of questions, and at the bottom of this message you will find Question #1 after today's Question #2. You get an additional 24 hours to answer them, together with today's question:


March 4th - Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani – Question 2 of the Certamen Latinum

I. INTRODUCTION 2 - Dictionary Forms of Verbs

Previously we discussed the dictionary form of the Latin nouns. We have learned that the dictionary forms of the nouns include the genitive (possessive) form of the noun, and its ending determines the entire inflection of the noun, the declension of the noun.

Today we study the dictionary forms of the verbs. How can we decide what conjugation (verb inflection group) a verb belongs to?

In the case of the verb “have”, you will find:

habeo –ére, -bui, -bitum

This is 4 pieces of information:

(1) habeo; it is the first person singular of the verb “have”. It means “I have”.
(2) –ere; it’s an abbreviation of “habere”, the infinite of the verb. It means “to have”.
(3) –bui; it’s an abbreviation of “habui”, the perfect tense of the verb. It means “I have had” or “I had”.
(4) –bitum; abbreviation of “habitum”, it’s the supine (or the past participle).

This verb’s infinitive, “habére” (to have), indicated in the dictionary form as “–ére” shows that this verb belongs to the 2nd conjugations, as all verbs that have the infinitive ending “-ére” belong to the 2nd conjugation. The second dictionary element, the infinitive, determines which conjugation the verb belongs to. The four types of infinitive endings and the four conjugations determined by the different genitive endings are:

-are = 1st conjugation; e.g.: amo, -are, -avi, -atum (I love)
-ére = 2nd conjugation; e.g.: habeo, -ere, -bui, -bitum (I have)
-ere = 3rd conjugation; e.g.: dico, -ere, dixi, dictum (I say)
-ire = 4th conjugation; e.g.: audio, -ire, -ivi, -itum (I hear)

Note that “–ere”, which is short vowel, is different from “–ére”, which is long vowel.


II. QUESTION 2

Use the Latin dictionary that we used last time, or, if you have to use an online Latin dictionary, use this one:

http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

Look into the dictionary and determine which conjugations the following 10 verbs belong to (10 x 1 pts).

Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their infinitive form (10 x 0.5 pts) and their perfect tense form (10 x 0.5 pts), and their supine/past participle (10 x 0.5 pts).

impero
facio
debeo
veto
edico
laudo
respondeo
servio

III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:

ago;

- after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is “ago, -ere, egi, actum”, so you will give the following data:

ago, 3rd conjugation (1pt); agere (0.5pt), egi (0.5pt), actum (0.5pt)

Comments: it’s 3rd conjugation because the infinitive (second dictionary form) “–ere” ending shows it. If it were “–ére” with long vowel “é”, it would have been 2nd conjugation.



IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM

One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not to this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...> within 48 hours of posting. Please do *not* post answers to the list! Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong address will not be awarded with points.

The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced together with the posting of the next questions.






YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS - EXTENDED DEADLINE FOR TOMORROW
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March 3rd - Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani – Question 1 of the Certamen Latinum

I. INTRODUCTION 1 - Dictionary Forms of Nouns



Latin is a heavily inflected language, which means that Latin indicates
grammatical information by changing the ending of the words. Nouns are
grouped into 5 declensions (noun inflection groups), verbs can be
classified into 4 conjugations (verb inflection groups). If we change a
noun’s ending to express its grammatical role, we say we “decline” it.
If we change a verb’s ending to express the person or the time (tense),
we say we “conjugate” it. To determine which declension or conjugation
group a verb belongs to, you have to look into a Latin dictionary.



Today we will examine the dictionary forms of nouns only.



In the case of nouns, for example, “friend”, you will find:



amicus, -i, m.



This is 3 pieces of information:



(1)              amicus;

(2)              -i;

(3)              m.



(1) This means that the word “friend” in nominative (subject) case is
“amicus”. Learn more about what nominative case means here, on our
website:


http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative



(2) The abbreviated form “-i” means that the word “friend” in genitive
(possessive) case is “amici” (something of friend, or friend’s
something), thus the original ending “-us” changes to “-i”. Learn more
about what nominative case means here, on our website:


http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive



Well, this is the most important point. This ending “–i” determines that
“amicus” belongs to the “second declension”, whose identifier is the
genitive “–i”. As we have mentioned, there are 5 declensions, and each
one of these has a unique, declension-specific genitive ending. It’s
important because the genitive ending determines the other inflections
as well. The five types of genitive ending and the five declensions
determined by the different genitive endings are:



-ae = 1st declension, e.g.: Roma, -ae, f (Rome)

-i = 2nd declension, eg.: amicus, -i, m (friend)

-is = 3rd declension, e.g.: rex, regis, m (king)

-ús = 4th declension, eg.: senatus, -ús, m (senate)

-ei = 5th declension, eg. fides, -ei, f (loyalty)



(3) The “m.” means that it is a masculine noun. In Latin, all nouns have
three genders, they are masculine, (abbreviated as “m”), feminine
(abbreviated as “f”), and neuter (abbreviated as “n”). English has a
similar phenomenon when we use “he”, “she” or “it”. The
new thing in this is that Latin uses these genders for things or
abstract concepts, too, like in the exemples above, “loyalty” (fides,
-ei, f) is
feminine in Latin, the “senate” (senatus, -ús, m) is masculine, “Rome”
(Roma, -ae, f) is, again,
feminine.



II. QUESTION 1



Find a Latin dictionary. Attention! If you use an online dictionary, be
aware that most of the online dictionaries are incomplete and do not
give the
full, correct dictionary forms of the Latin words. If you can use only
online resources, please use one of the following Google Books
digitalized Latin dictionary:


http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false



Look into the dictionary and determine which declensions the following 10 nouns belong to (10 x 1 pts).



Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
possessive form (genitive) (10 x 0.5 pts) and their gender (10 x 0.1
pts).



forum

consul

gloria

dignitas

res

pax

nomen

gladius

legio

porticus


III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:



praetor;



- after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is
“praetor, -oris, m”, so you will give the following data:



praetor, 3rd declension (1pt); praetoris (0.5pt), masculine (0.1pt)



Comments: It’s 3rd declension, because in the abbreviated genitive form given as  “–oris” for "praetoris", the genitive ending “-is” determines that it must belong to the 3rd declension.





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83369 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 5 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 5 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be

posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time on 13 March
2764.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne


See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2


Here are the questions for 5 March 2764 - Day 5 of the ludi:

Question #13. Which of Marius' lieutenants successfully ended the Second
Sicilian Slave War?

Question #14. In what city was Gaius Valerius Catullus born?


Question #15. The “Gens Reforms” were passed as a constitutional amendment by
the Senate of Nova Roma on what date?

For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83370 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Today we honor: MINERVA, the Goddess of a Thousand Works
L. Iulia Aquila Pontifex Quiritibus S.P.D.


During the 13 days of the Ludi Novi Romani, commemorating about the 13 years of Nova Roma, each day is dedicated to honour a deity important in the life of Nova Roma.

Today Minerva is the topic and also the focus of our meditation.


Minerva: the Goddess of a Thousand Works (Ovidus Fasti III)

"O Minerva, You have always come to my aid with Your counsels, witness to the existence of my works"
Cicero De Domo sua ad Pontifices 144

Minerva is wisdom, She is a goddess of many attributes, She is the guardian of life, preserving the intellectual and spiritual principle through Her protective power and under the providence of divine intelligence.

We have come to know Minerva as having shared characteristics with the Greek Athena, including Her parentage. Minerva's father was thought to be Pallas the Giant (although Pallas could be a variety of mentors or figures) or the daughter of Metis and Iuppiter (Tinia) springing from His head, reminiscent of Athena; tales of how She came to be are many and varied.
Some scholars believe She, Menrva, came from Falerii, now known as Civita Castellana, then a small hamlet on the right side of the Tiber. There She was worshipped as the protectress of handicraft and also of the working man, a very important aspect to the Ancient Roman people. The Etruscans brought this Goddess to Rome as part of the Capitoline Triad of Iuppiter, Iuno and Minerva.
Under the reign of the last King of Rome, Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, a Temple was constructed to rever them on Capitoline Hill; Aedes Iovis Optimi Maximi Capitolini. There three separate chambers for these most important Dieties, Iuno Regina on the Left, Iuppiter in the center and Minerva on the right. This was the second Capitoline Triad, the first predated the Roman Republic and came to be known as the Archaic Triad of Iuppiter, Mars and Quirinus. Tuscan craftsmen built the magnificent Etruscan Temple of Minerva and to honor them the area where they lived, at the foot of the Capitoline, was named for them in perpetuity; the Vicus Tuscus.


Minerva is not just a symbol of divine intellect but She gifts humans who seek Her guidance induces a meditations of intellectual illumination; wisdom.
"Come now, golden haired Minerva, to favor the task I've begun"
Ovidus Fasti 6.652

She is a God of the people, revered by patricians and plebians alike, Her sense of fairness and equity endears her to those who talents, rather than birth, set them apart from others.
Minerva's Temple on the Aventine in the 3rd century was host to the collegium of scribae and histriones who were dramatic authors and actors and where their archives were held. As a result of this an entire community of poets, including Ennius, took up residency on the Aventine, the traditional home of the plebs, close to Her Temple. In Mid March plebian festivals were celebrated at the sanctuary of Minerva. These were guild festivals held during the Quinquatrus (March 19-26) to celebrate the anniversary of the consecration of Her Temple on the Aventine and included all the arts and trades sacred to Minerva: sculptors, painters, physician, teachers, weavers, fullers, dyers and cobblers. The Temple of Minerva Medica on the Esquiline also was very much of the celebration with four days of sacrifices and competitions mostly gladiatorial. Outstanding teachers were rewarded with the title "minerval" which is still continued today in various societies.

"After a one day interval, the rites of Minerva are performed, which take their name from the sequence of five days. The first day is bloodless, and sword fights are unlawful, because Minerva was born on that very day. The next four are celebrated with gladiatorial shows, the warlike goddess delights in naked swords. Pray now you boys and tender girls to Pallas: he who can truly please Pallas, is learned. Pleasing Pallas let girls learn to card wool, and how to unwind the full distaff. She shows how to draw the shuttle through the firm Warp, and close up loose threads with the comb. Worship her, you who remove stains from damaged clothes, Worship her, you who ready bronze cauldrons for fleeces. If Pallas frowns, no one could make good shoes, Even if he were more skilled than Tychius: and even if he were cleverer with his hands Than Epeus once was, he'll be useless if Pallas is angry. You too who drive away ills with Apollo's art, bring a few gifts of your own for the goddess: and don't scorn her, you schoolmasters, a tribe so often cheated of its pay: she attracts new pupils: nor you engravers, and painters with encaustics, nor you who carve the stone with a skilful hand. She's the goddess of a thousand things: and song for sure: If I'm worthy may she be a friend to my endeavors. Where the Caelian Hill slopes down to the plain, at the point where the street's almost, but not quite, level, you can see the little shrine of Minerva Capta, which the Goddess first occupied on Her birthday. The source of the name is doubtful: we speak of `Capital' ingenuity: the goddess is herself ingenious. Or is it because, motherless, she leapt, with a shield from the crown of her father's head (caput)? Or because she came to us as a `captive' from the conquest Of Falerii? This, an ancient inscription claims. Or because her law ordains `capital' punishment for receiving things stolen from that place? By whatever logic your title's derived, Pallas, Shield our leaders with your aegis forever."
Ovidus, Fasti III; 809-848

In the Eleusinian mysteries it is Minerva herself who preserves the very heart of Bacchus protecting the freedoms He represents and also His mysteries which gifts his cultores with possession and empowerment directly by the God's divine self. Although this article is about Minerva I mention Bacchus and the mysteries (incl. Orphic) because She is inextricably tied to Bacchus as His birth, the rising sun, is the rising of intellectual light and its manifestations and therefore under her dominion. Her connection with Bacchus is thusly immortalized in the following poem:

"To Minerva" by Proclus (3rd Century C.E.)

"Daughter of ægis-bearing Jove, divine,
Propitious to thy votaries' prayer incline;
From thy great father's fount supremely bright,
Like fire resounding, leaping into light.
Shield-bearing goddess, hear, to whom belong
A manly mind, and power to tame the strong!
Oh, sprung from matchless might, with joyful mind
Accept this hymn; benevolent and kind!
The holy gates of wisdom, by thy hand
Are wide unfolded; and the daring band
Of earth-born giants, that in impious fight
Strove with thy fire, were vanquished by thy might.
Once by thy care, as sacred poets sing,
The heart of Bacchus, swiftly-slaughtered king,
Was sav'd in Æther, when, with fury fired,
The Titans fell against his life conspired;
And with relentless rage and thirst for gore,
Their hands his members into fragments tore:
But ever watchful of thy father's will,
Thy power preserv'd him from succeeding ill,
Till from the secret counsels of his fire,
And born from Semelé through heavenly sire,
Great Dionysus to the world at length
Again appeared with renovated strength.
Once, too, thy warlike ax, with matchless sway,
Lopped from their savage necks the heads away
Of furious beasts, and thus the pests destroyed
Which long all-seeing Hecaté annoyed.
By thee benevolent great Juno's might
Was roused, to furnish mortals with delight.
And thro' life's wide and various range, 't is thine
Each part to beautify with art divine:
Invigorated hence by thee, we find
A demiurgic impulse in the mind.
Towers proudly raised, and for protection strong,
To thee, dread guardian deity, belong,
As proper symbols of th' exalted height
Thy series claims amidst the courts of light.
Lands are beloved by thee, to learning prone,
And Athens, Oh Athena, is thy own!
Great goddess, hear! and on my dark'ned mind
Pour thy pure light in measure unconfined;—
That sacred light, Oh all-protecting queen,
Which beams eternal from thy face serene.
My soul, while wand'ring on the earth, inspire
With thy own blessed and impulsive fire:
And from thy fables, mystic and divine,
Give all her powers with holy light to shine.
Give love, give wisdom, and a power to love,
Incessant tending to the realms above;
Such as unconscious of base earth's control
Gently attracts the vice-subduing soul:
From night's dark region aids her to retire,
And once more gain the palace of her sire.
O all-propitious to my prayer incline!
Nor let those horrid punishments be mine
Which guilty souls in Tartarus confine,
With fetters fast'ned to its brazen floors,
And lock'd by hell's tremendous iron doors.
Hear me, and save (for power is all thine own)
A soul desirous to be thine alone."

We see the connection of Bacchus and Minerva again in the celebration of the elderly Goddess, Anna Perenna on March 15th. Mars became enamored of the virgin Minerva's beauty and asked Anna Perenna to intercede on his behalf, like most ancient tales it took an unexpected turn. Anna Perenna disguised Herself as Minerva on the wedding day but Mars found out just in time and the wedding never happened. Anna Perenna is a Goddess of "the turning of the years" or circle of life and also as a fertility procuring entity. Because of these attributes the festival of the fertility god Liber Pater, later equated with Bacchus, included a remembrance of Anna Perenna as elderly women donning ivy crowns offered sacrifice to the fertility god and through these venerable women the requests of their younger counterparts for children was channeled.
In the context of the Orphic mysteries Minerva reveals the rhythmical dance of the celestial bodies and while she remains with Iuppiter she is wisdom but when she is in the company of the Dii Consentes she also reveals the power of Virtue.

The fiery Minerva as a Novensides is known to hurl thunderbolts, to be a Goddess of Victory, Patron Goddess of Domitian as Minerva Chaldica forever immortalized on his coinage, and interpreted by the stoics to be a moon element. The anniversary of Mens (Intelligence) on June 8 finds, at the end of a long day and night of celebration, flute players drunk, in masks and other disguises arrive at the Temple of Minerva in reverence to the Goddess who invented their flutes and their music. She is worshipped at Luceria in Apulia as Minerva Achaea, where cultores leave votive gifts. Preserved at this Temple were arms purported to be those of Diomedes himself. Sacred to Her are the Owl and Olive.

In Rome she is also known as the Goddess of Warriors, of strategic defense in War, depicted wearing armor, a helmet and carrying a spear.

"Proud, warlike Goddess, great honor and wisdom of Your Father, powerful in war are You, on whom the grim helmet is borne with its frightful decoration, speckled with the Gorgon's blood that glows more violent with increasing rage, never has Mavors or Bellona with Her battle spear inspired more ardent calls to arms on the war trumpets than You. May You with Your nod accept this sacrificial offering. Whether You come from Mount Pandion to our rites by night, or from dancing happily in Ainian Itone, or from washing once more Your hair in the waters of Libyan Triton, or whether the winged axle of your war chariot, with its paired pure-bred horses carries you astride its beam, shouting aloud, now, to You, we dedicate the shattered spoils of virile men and their battered armour. Should I return to my Parthaonian fields, and upon being sighted Martian Pleuron should throw open wide her gates for me, then amid her hills, at the center of the city, I shall dedicate to you a golden temple where it may be your pleasure to look upon Ionian storms, and where Achelous tosses about his flaxen hair to disturb the sea where it leaves behind the breakers of Echinades. In here will I display accounts of ancestral wars and the death-masks of great hearted kings, and affix the arms of the proud in the rotunda that I have returned with myself, taken at the cost of my own blood, and those, Tritonia, that you will grant when Thebes is captured. There a hundred Calydonian virgins will serve in devotions at your altar, shall duly twine the Actaean torches, and weave from Your chaste olive tree purple sacrificial fillets with snow white strands of wool. At nightly vigils an aged priestess will tend your altar's fire, and never will she neglect to safeguard your modesty, attending in secret to the rites of your boudoir. To you in war, to you in peace, the first fruits of our labors shall be borne, without offence to Diana."
Statius Thebaid 2.715-42

There is no way I can cover the scope of this Great Goddesses attributes, tales of Her accomplishments and experiences and countless songs and poetry in her honor but I implore anyone to go in search of these many jewels for a rewarding experience.
I shall end with a very important aspect of Minerva with a piece of history and a finally a touching poem.

Inscribed plaques dedicated to Minerva the Mindful fashioned by a Roman Matron, Tullia Superiana commemorating the sacrifice of a white cow made in fulfillment of a vow by a slave for the recovery of his sight and a votive display of gratitude for restoring her hair:

"Felix Asianus, public slave of the pontiffs, gladly and sincerely discharged his vow of a white heifer to rustic Bona Dea Felicula (Good Goddess Felicula) for the restoration of his eyesight. He had been given up by the doctors, but after ten months he was cured by the favor of the Mistress and her remedies." (CIL 6.68)

"In payment of her vow Tullia Superiana dedicates this plaque willingly and deservedly to Minerva the Mindful for having restored her hair."

"In Vita Minerva"
Oliver Wendell Holmes

"Vex not the Muse with idle prayers,--
She will not hear thy call;
She steals upon thee unawares,
Or seeks thee not at all.

Soft as the moonbeams when they sought
Endymion's fragrant bower,
She parts the whispering leaves of thought
To show her full-blown flower.

For thee her wooing hour has passed,
The singing birds have flown,
And winter comes with icy blast
To chill thy buds unblown.

Yet, though the woods no longer thrill
As once their arches rung,
Sweet echoes hover round thee still
Of songs thy summer sung.

Live in thy past; await no more
The rush of heaven-sent wings;
Earth still has music left in store
While Memory sighs and sings."

©Aquila 04March2011


1. Takacs, Sarolta A. (2008) "Vestal Virgins, Sybils, and Matrons" (p. 48)
2. Fishwick, Duncan (1987). "Seneca and the Temple of Divus Claudius" (pp. 253–254). Britannia 22 (pp. 137–141).
3. Carter, Jess Benedict (1911) The Religious Life of Ancient Rome" (pp. 25-26).
4. Florence Dupont, "Daily Life in Ancient Rome" (p. 154)
5. Ibid. (p. 200)
6. Turcan, R. (1998) "The Gods of Ancient Rome" (p.67)
7. Ovidus, Fasti III; 814
8. Ibid, 523-710
9. Ibid. 713-808
10. Takacs, Sarolta A. (2008) "Vestal Virgins, Sybils, and Matrons" (p. 42)
11. Bruhl, A.(1953) "Liber Pater" (PP. 13-29)
12. Proclus, Crat., p. 118
13. Ibid, Tim., i.52
14. Dumezil, Georges (1996) "Archaic Roman Religion" Vol II (p. 643) Servius II, Aen, 1:42
15. Ibid (p. 674)
16. Ibid (p. 688)
17. Girard, J. (1981) "Domitien et Minerve : une predilection imperiale" (pp. 233-245)
18. Turcan, R. (1998) "The Gods of Ancient Rome" (p.74)
19. Ovidus, Fasti VI; 696
20. Aristotle Mirab. Narrat. 117
21. Warrior, Valerie M. (2006) "Roman Religion" (p. 26)
22. Warrior, Valerie M. (2006) "Roman Religion, A Sourcebook" (p. 9)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83371 From: Marcus Prometheus Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Virtual History Roma è un’applicazione strabiliante. Parola di St
M. Prometheus S P D

Virtual History Roma � un�applicazione strabiliante. Parola di Steve
Jobs! <http://t.contactlab.it/c/2000138/1928/13707349/22882>

Avete presente Virtual History Roma, l�applicazione per iPad firmata
Mondadori Digital che permette di viaggiare nell�antica Roma? Ebbene, ne ha
parlato anche Steve Jobs nientemeno che in occasione della presentazione del
nuovo iPad 2...
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Bene valete* *
Marcus Prometheus.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83372 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Naumachia-After Hours Party- The Invitation
Salve et Salvete Omnes:


As for the events of Dies 5 of the Ludi Novi Romani 2764 woohoo! (applauds)
the Aedilician Cohors as a whole would like to invite all of the citizens of
NR to attend the Naumachia After-Party all of your favorite citizens will be
there. And believe me this is something you'll want to stick around for :-)

We hope you have been enjoying the Ludi so far and trust us when we say
there is more to come.


Vivat Ludi Novi Romani! Vivat Nova Roma!

Vale et Valete,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83373 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica Cn. Cornelio Lentulo suo quiritibus bonae voluntatis
> S.P.D.
>
>
>
> Salvete, Quirites!
>
> What is with you, Romans? Come on now, let's show to the world there is at
> least 10 of you who can do this Contest! :)
>
> ATS: Maybe they are chicken! We have far more than that who have
> graduated from Grammatica and / or Sermo...come on, discipuli! Lentulus and I
> are not allowed to enter...I suspect Gualterus and Tullius Valerianus won¹t
> either...what are you afraid of? I ran out of red ink correcting homework
> papers, and had to place another order...
>
>
> Only M. Pompeius Caninus and V. Valerius Volusus answered Question #1 - glory
> to these two gentlemen, saving Nova Roma from shame! :)
>
> ATS: And Caninus is taking Rudimenta Latina, which is on its third, most
> grammatically-oriented course module...Where is Labeo, who is also in that
> course? Where are the others? Come forth! Anyone who can enter a gladiator
> can surely enter a Latin contest...or a literary one, for that matter! Maybe
> we need factions for Latin and literary contests...
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus 16 pts (all answers correct!!)
> V. Valerius Volusus 14 pts
>
> It's ludi time, people! Let's celebrate and honor good old Mother Nova Roma
> with some playing and gaming! Follow the example of these two outstanding
> Romans above.
>
> Now I *EXTEND* the deadline for the first set of questions, and at the bottom
> of this message you will find Question #1 after today's Question #2. You get
> an additional 24 hours to answer them, together with today's question:
>
> March 4th - Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani ­ Question 2 of the Certamen Latinum
>
> I. INTRODUCTION 2 - Dictionary Forms of Verbs
>
> Previously we discussed the dictionary form of the Latin nouns. We have
> learned that the dictionary forms of the nouns include the genitive
> (possessive) form of the noun, and its ending determines the entire inflection
> of the noun, the declension of the noun.
>
> Today we study the dictionary forms of the verbs. How can we decide what
> conjugation (verb inflection group) a verb belongs to?
>
> In the case of the verb ³have², you will find:
>
> habeo ­ére, -bui, -bitum
>
> This is 4 pieces of information:
>
> (1) habeo; it is the first person singular of the verb ³have². It means ³I
> have².
> (2) ­ere; it¹s an abbreviation of ³habere², the infinite of the verb. It means
> ³to have².
> (3) ­bui; it¹s an abbreviation of ³habui², the perfect tense of the verb. It
> means ³I have had² or ³I had².
> (4) ­bitum; abbreviation of ³habitum², it¹s the supine (or the past
> participle).
>
> This verb¹s infinitive, ³habére² (to have), indicated in the dictionary form
> as ³­ére² shows that this verb belongs to the 2nd conjugations, as all verbs
> that have the infinitive ending ³-ére² belong to the 2nd conjugation. The
> second dictionary element, the infinitive, determines which conjugation the
> verb belongs to. The four types of infinitive endings and the four
> conjugations determined by the different genitive endings are:
>
> -are = 1st conjugation; e.g.: amo, -are, -avi, -atum (I love)
> -ére = 2nd conjugation; e.g.: habeo, -ere, -bui, -bitum (I have)
> -ere = 3rd conjugation; e.g.: dico, -ere, dixi, dictum (I say)
> -ire = 4th conjugation; e.g.: audio, -ire, -ivi, -itum (I hear)
>
> Note that ³­ere², which is short vowel, is different from ³­ére², which is
> long vowel.
>
> II. QUESTION 2
>
> Use the Latin dictionary that we used last time, or, if you have to use an
> online Latin dictionary, use this one:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onep
> age&q&f=false
> <http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=
> en#v=onepage&q&f=false>
>
> Look into the dictionary and determine which conjugations the following 10
> verbs belong to (10 x 1 pts).
>
> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
> infinitive form (10 x 0.5 pts) and their perfect tense form (10 x 0.5 pts),
> and their supine/past participle (10 x 0.5 pts).
>
> impero
> facio
> debeo
> veto
> edico
> laudo
> respondeo
> servio
>
> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:
>
> ago;
>
> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is ³ago,
> -ere, egi, actum², so you will give the following data:
>
> ago, 3rd conjugation (1pt); agere (0.5pt), egi (0.5pt), actum (0.5pt)
>
> Comments: it¹s 3rd conjugation because the infinitive (second dictionary form)
> ³­ere² ending shows it. If it were ³­ére² with long vowel ³é², it would have
> been 2nd conjugation.
>
> IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM
>
> One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not to
> this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...
> <mailto:cnaeus_cornelius%40yahoo.com> > within 48 hours of posting. Please do
> *not* post answers to the list! Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong
> address will not be awarded with points.
>
> The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced
> together with the posting of the next questions.
>
> YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS - EXTENDED DEADLINE FOR TOMORROW
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> March 3rd - Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani ­ Question 1 of the Certamen Latinum
>
> I. INTRODUCTION 1 - Dictionary Forms of Nouns
>
> Latin is a heavily inflected language, which means that Latin indicates
> grammatical information by changing the ending of the words. Nouns are
> grouped into 5 declensions (noun inflection groups), verbs can be
> classified into 4 conjugations (verb inflection groups). If we change a
> noun¹s ending to express its grammatical role, we say we ³decline² it.
> If we change a verb¹s ending to express the person or the time (tense),
> we say we ³conjugate² it. To determine which declension or conjugation
> group a verb belongs to, you have to look into a Latin dictionary.
>
> Today we will examine the dictionary forms of nouns only.
>
> In the case of nouns, for example, ³friend², you will find:
>
> amicus, -i, m.
>
> This is 3 pieces of information:
>
> (1)              amicus;
>
> (2)              -i;
>
> (3)              m.
>
> (1) This means that the word ³friend² in nominative (subject) case is
> ³amicus². Learn more about what nominative case means here, on our
> website:
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative
>
> (2) The abbreviated form ³-i² means that the word ³friend² in genitive
> (possessive) case is ³amici² (something of friend, or friend¹s
> something), thus the original ending ³-us² changes to ³-i². Learn more
> about what nominative case means here, on our website:
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive
>
> Well, this is the most important point. This ending ³­i² determines that
> ³amicus² belongs to the ³second declension², whose identifier is the
> genitive ³­i². As we have mentioned, there are 5 declensions, and each
> one of these has a unique, declension-specific genitive ending. It¹s
> important because the genitive ending determines the other inflections
> as well. The five types of genitive ending and the five declensions
> determined by the different genitive endings are:
>
> -ae = 1st declension, e.g.: Roma, -ae, f (Rome)
>
> -i = 2nd declension, eg.: amicus, -i, m (friend)
>
> -is = 3rd declension, e.g.: rex, regis, m (king)
>
> -ús = 4th declension, eg.: senatus, -ús, m (senate)
>
> -ei = 5th declension, eg. fides, -ei, f (loyalty)
>
> (3) The ³m.² means that it is a masculine noun. In Latin, all nouns have
> three genders, they are masculine, (abbreviated as ³m²), feminine
> (abbreviated as ³f²), and neuter (abbreviated as ³n²). English has a
> similar phenomenon when we use ³he², ³she² or ³it². The
> new thing in this is that Latin uses these genders for things or
> abstract concepts, too, like in the exemples above, ³loyalty² (fides,
> -ei, f) is
> feminine in Latin, the ³senate² (senatus, -ús, m) is masculine, ³Rome²
> (Roma, -ae, f) is, again,
> feminine.
>
> II. QUESTION 1
>
> Find a Latin dictionary. Attention! If you use an online dictionary, be
> aware that most of the online dictionaries are incomplete and do not
> give the
> full, correct dictionary forms of the Latin words. If you can use only
> online resources, please use one of the following Google Books
> digitalized Latin dictionary:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onep
> age&q&f=false
> <http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=
> en#v=onepage&q&f=false>
>
> Look into the dictionary and determine which declensions the following 10
> nouns belong to (10 x 1 pts).
>
> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
> possessive form (genitive) (10 x 0.5 pts) and their gender (10 x 0.1
> pts).
>
> forum
>
> consul
>
> gloria
>
> dignitas
>
> res
>
> pax
>
> nomen
>
> gladius
>
> legio
>
> porticus
>
> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:
>
> praetor;
>
> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is
> ³praetor, -oris, m², so you will give the following data:
>
> praetor, 3rd declension (1pt); praetoris (0.5pt), masculine (0.1pt)
>
> Comments: It¹s 3rd declension, because in the abbreviated genitive form given
> as  ³­oris² for "praetoris", the genitive ending ³-is² determines that it must
> belong to the 3rd declension.
>
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>
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83374 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Salve et Salvete Omnes:


Okay, I think the Magister and Magistra of the Latinitas Program could
probably use some cheerleading help.


Don't be shy Quirites come join in and lets not forget that, the individual
who wins the Certamen Latinum does win a prize.

Psst, Lentulus I think you forgot to mention the part about the loot! :P


Think you have some skills in the language, well show these two up! I have
faith in my fellow cives!

Vale et Valete,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83375 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-04
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 276
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Petronio Africano quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
>
> salvete Omenes,
>
> What great games these have been. Sura has done well and the gods look upon
> him with favor.
>
> ATS: Glad to hear it! I like it when Albata is victorious! Now, I think
> we need an Albata faction for the Latin certamen; why is it that so few have
> dared to attempt this simple exercise? CHICKENS! What kind of Romans are
> you?
>
>
> I am glad to report the Aello is recoverying quicklyhe mineral baths. She has
> been encourged by her first two matches and is looking forward to getting back
> to training. Tinshe was disappopinted in his lost. He also will be back again
> for the next games. His training will be more disciplained.
>
> The white still have Sura to cheer up during the next match.
>
> Valete
> C. Pteronius Africanus
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> , "M.
> Pompeius Caninus" <m.pompeius@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the results of the
>> > quarterfinals from the Flavian Amphitheater for the Munera Gladiatoria of
>> the
>> > Ludi Novi Romani for 2764!
>> >
>> > It has been another fine day with plenty of sunshine and the promise of a
>> > beautiful spring season ahead. The amphitheater was nearly full and the
>> crowd
>> > was passionate and enthusiastic. I spotted a number of red banners proudly
>> > waving even though the gladiators of the Ludus Russatus were eliminated
>> during
>> > yesterday's contests.
>> >
>> > The first three matches of the day were quickly over as the match ups
>> proved to
>> > be very lopsided. Sura defeated Pricus while hardly breaking a sweat. There
>> was
>> > a distinct sense of disappointment in the air from the many young women who
>> were
>> > hoping Pricus would win this tournament. Then Llacheu came out flashing
>> some
>> > dazzling double sword magic against Tinashe, earning the loudest and
>> longest
>> > cheers and applause of the day from the spectators when he won the fight.
>> After
>> > his match I noticed four different vendors approached Llancheu, most likely
>> to
>> > discuss product endorsement deals. Then Drest and Bjarni faced off in what
>> may
>> > have been the most mismatched pairing of the tournament. Bjarni lost after
>> less
>> > than two minutes of combat when Drest successfully took advantage of
>> several
>> > weaknesses in Bjarni's all out assault.
>> >
>> > The last match of the quarterfinals pitted Aello the Amazon, a female
>> Retiarius,
>> > against Attalus the Briton, a Secutor. After yesterday's action, it seemed
>> most
>> > of the fans expected Attalus to launch a charge right away. But Attalus was
>> > cautious and determined. Rumors circulated in the arena and the press boxes
>> as
>> > many fans noticed Attalus exhibited a bit of a droop in his shield position
>> that
>> > seemed to be out of character. While not yet confirmed from his lanista or
>> > publicist, there was speculation he was hurt when he hit Suffocatrix with
>> his
>> > second charge in yesterday's final fight. This afternoon's match up between
>> > Attalus and Aello was the most tightly contested and balanced fight of the
>> day.
>> > For more than 15 minutes Aello proved to be a formidable fighter, pressing
>> in on
>> > Attalus numerous times with accuracy and great strength. In the end, the
>> speed
>> > and stamina of Attalus proved superior to the height and native skill of
>> Aello.
>> > The match ended when Aello lunged with her trident and stumbled as Attalus
>> > dodged her thrust, spun around and struck Aello in the back with his
>> shield.
>> > Aello fell to the ground and Attalus found her neck with his sword.
>> Fortunately,
>> > her most serious injury was to her pride but I am confident we have not
>> seen the
>> > last of Aello!
>> >
>> > Match
>> > Competitors
>> > Winner
>> > Ludus
>> > 1 Sura vs. Pricus Sura Albatus
>> > 2 Llacheu vs. Tinashe Llacheu Venetus
>> > 3 Drest vs. Bjarni Drest Praesinus
>> > 4 Attalus the Briton vs. Aello the Amazon Attalus Municius
>> >
>> > At the end of the quarterfinals, Albatus, Municius, Praesinus and Venetus
>> each
>> > had a gladiator moving on to the semifinals in two days. In a show of great
>> > respect and honor, the gladiators who lost their quarterfinal matches asked
>> to
>> > complete their consolation round immediately to give all of the competitors
>> a
>> > day off for what promises to be a spectacular celebration of Neptunus and
>> the
>> > Sea tomorrow. After two rounds of fighting, the Fates played out their
>> hands for
>> > the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th place gladiators.
>> >
>> > Well, that does it for our coverage of the quarterfinals. This is Marcus
>> > Pompeius Caninus bidding you a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and
>> we
>> > will see you here again on Sunday for the Munera Gladiatoria Semifinals!
>> >
>> > Di vos incolumes custodiant!
>> > M. Pompeius Caninus
>> > Bethel, Alaska, USA
>> > America Boreoccidentalis
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83376 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Today we Honor: NEPTUNUS, the God of Oceanus, Bodies of Water, & Equ
Sta. Cornelia Juliana Aeternia Omnibus in foro salutem dicit plurimam:

Today we give honor to Neptunus, Lord of the Ocean, Bodies of water, and
Horses. Neptunus is also brother to Iuppiter, King of the Gods, and father
to Triton, and various other children. His dominion is the Ocean, the sea,
various bodies of water, and his animal is the Horse. We as Nova Romans
appreciate and honor Neptunus, for water is the cup of life. It flows
through our bodies, it is the essence in which plants and crops grow which
in turn graces our tables, and feeds our families through this web we are
connected. The element of water is very important to the cives of Nova Roma
worldwide and in this we give deep thanks to Neptunus for all that he gives
us. The following prayer was composed by our illustrious Consul C. Equitius
Cato and we thank the Consul for this truly beautiful devotion.



*O' great Neptune, at Whose command the great oceans rise and fall,
and at Whose words causes storms to rage and swell, look upon the
Senate and People of Nova Roma with favor and kindness.
From the ocean's deep You rise, great trident-bearer,
ruler of the waves and driver of foam-decked sea-horses, to
accept our prayers and offerings. We stretch out our arms to the sea
and call Thy name, Lord of the waves; let us hear Your voice in the
crashing of the waves and in the gentle rippling of a tidal pool.
O' earth-encircling god, give us calm waters upon which to travel
and safe haven at journey's end.

©2764/2011 C. Equitius Cato cos.*



Vale quam Optime,
Statia Cornelia Juliana Aeternia (Aedilis)


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83377 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Dies 5
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Here are the fifth set of questions for the mythology quiz. Also are some
bonus questions, which are completely optional to answer, but they are worth
five pts each.

Please remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw)
with the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@... or
phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.


Again send them private e-mail.
Otherwise enjoy et Bona Fortuna!

Neptune (Dies 5)
1. On what day is Neptunalia held?

2. Besides being the god of water and the sea, which animal is Neptune
the god of?
a. Cat
b. Ox
c. Bird
d. Horse

3. Which saltwater goddess was Neptune paired with?

*Bonus Questions*

1. Name the Sea Queen married to the Ocean Giant Ophion in Book I of the
Argonautica?
.2. Name the two demigods, sailors invoked to protect them against
shipwrecks?.3. Who were the 3, 000 daughters of Titans Oceanus and Tethys?
3. Who were the 3, 000 daughters of Titans Oceanus and Tethys?
4. Which mythological creature is often identified with a Siren?

Vale Optime,
Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83378 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: a.d. III Non. Mar.
Hodie est ante diem III Nones Martias; hodiernus dies comitialis est.

"When Aurora, Tithonus' bride, shall have begun
To shed dew from her saffron cheeks at the fifth dawn,
The constellation, whether you call it Arctophylax,
Or dull Bootes, will have been sinking, fleeing your sight.
But even the Grape-Gatherer will not yet have escaped you:
The origin of that star-name also can be swiftly told.
It's said that hairy Ampelus, son of a nymph and satyr,
Was loved by Bacchus, among the Ismarian hills:
The god entrusted him with a vine, trailing from an elm's
Leafy boughs, and the vine takes its name from the boy's.
While on a branch rashly picking the shining grapes.
He fell: but Liber raised the fallen youth to the stars." - Ovid,
Fasti III

"In the center [of the Shield of Herakles] was Phobos, worked in
adamant, unspeakable, staring backwards with eyes that glowed with
fire. His mouth was full of teeth in a white row, fearful and
daunting, and upon his grim brow hovered frightful Eris who arrays the
throng of men ... Upon the shield Proioxis and Palioxis were wrought,
and Homados, and Phobos, and Androktasie. Eris also, and Kydoimos were
hurrying about, and deadly Fate." - Shield of Heracles 139f

This month is dedicated to Mars, the god of War. Mars was a much more
personable deity than his Greek counterpart, Ares. Ares was pure
slaughter, unbridled ferocity in battle; Phobos was the
personification of fear and horror. He was the son of Ares and
Aphrodite. He, his brother Deimos, and the goddess Enyo accompanied
Ares into battle, along with his father's attendants, Trembling and
Panic. His Roman equivalent was Timor. Deimos was the personification
of dread. His Roman equivalent was Formido or Metus. Enyo was an
ancient goddess known by the epithet "Waster of Cities" and frequently
depicted as being covered in blood and carrying weapons of war. She
was frequently portrayed as a companion of Ares, the chief god of war,
and has been variously said to be his mother or sister. She was
occasionally said to be one of the Graeae.

Enyo's Roman counterpart, Bellona, like Ares's counterpart Mars, was
much more popular. She is believed to be one of the numinous gods of
the Romans (without a particular mythology and possibly of Etruscan
origin), and is supposed by many to have been the Romans' original war
deity, predating the identification of Mars with Ares. Her name,
Bellona, is derived from the Latin word for "war" (bellum), and is
directly related to the modern English word "belligerent" (lit.,
"war-bearing"). In art, she is portrayed with a helmet, sword, spear,
and torch.

Politically, all Senate meetings relating to foreign war were
conducted in the Templum Bellonae (Temple of Bellona) on the Collis
Capitolinus outside the pomerium. This temple was built in 296 B.C.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83379 From: Chad Stricklin Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Minerva
Salve Lucia Julia Aquila,

I just wanted to say Thanks for that!

Minerva is my Goddess of choice and reverence to her specifically is always great. Forgive the vague and short reply, I hate the iphone's keyboard.

Vale,
Ti. Ovidius Aquila

Sent via iPhone 4.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83380 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: Minerva
Ave Aquila!

Gratias tibi!
You must come to Nashville amice! Pallas Minerva is here in all her glory as Pallas Athena, so worth the trip !
Btw me and a few of my friends may be down your way in October to NO for some Halloween nonsense, so I'll look you up;)
As for the iPhone - until I got 4 I couldn't even post, but yeah the kb is small- but it's a heckuva 'chine! But I changed the "signature"

Vale bene

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Chad Stricklin <stricklin_c@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Lucia Julia Aquila,
>
> I just wanted to say Thanks for that!
>
> Minerva is my Goddess of choice and reverence to her specifically is always great. Forgive the vague and short reply, I hate the iphone's keyboard.
>
> Vale,
> Ti. Ovidius Aquila
>
> Sent via iPhone 4.
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83381 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Salve Lentule!


I have two problems with the Latin contest. The first is personal, I do not have time this Ludus and would only be able to a small percentage out of the many questions- and I do not like to do anything "incompletely";).
The second is technical. There are so many "alien" characters in the words that I can't make them out. I thought maybe it was because I accessed the pages on my mobile but I am now at a computer and I still can't make the most important words out, I even tried two different browsers. I think the problem is the apices, they render it unreadable so I am wondering if others are experiencing that problem as well. It could also happen if you use the "rich-text editor". Just wanted to let you know amice.

Vale optime,

Julia





--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:
>
> Salvete, Quirites!
>
> What is with you, Romans? Come on now, let's show to the world there is at least 10 of you who can do this Contest! :) Only M. Pompeius Caninus and V. Valerius Volusus answered Question #1 - glory to these two gentlemen, saving Nova Roma from shame! :)
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus 16 pts (all answers correct!!)
> V. Valerius Volusus 14 pts
>
> It's ludi time, people! Let's celebrate and honor good old Mother Nova Roma with some playing and gaming! Follow the example of these two outstanding Romans above.
>
> Now I *EXTEND* the deadline for the first set of questions, and at the bottom of this message you will find Question #1 after today's Question #2. You get an additional 24 hours to answer them, together with today's question:
>
>
> March 4th - Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani â€" Question 2 of the Certamen Latinum
>
> I. INTRODUCTION 2 - Dictionary Forms of Verbs
>
> Previously we discussed the dictionary form of the Latin nouns. We have learned that the dictionary forms of the nouns include the genitive (possessive) form of the noun, and its ending determines the entire inflection of the noun, the declension of the noun.
>
> Today we study the dictionary forms of the verbs. How can we decide what conjugation (verb inflection group) a verb belongs to?
>
> In the case of the verb “have”, you will find:
>
> habeo â€"ére, -bui, -bitum
>
> This is 4 pieces of information:
>
> (1) habeo; it is the first person singular of the verb “have”. It means “I have”.
> (2) â€"ere; it’s an abbreviation of “habere”, the infinite of the verb. It means “to have”.
> (3) â€"bui; it’s an abbreviation of “habui”, the perfect tense of the verb. It means “I have had” or “I had”.
> (4) â€"bitum; abbreviation of “habitum”, it’s the supine (or the past participle).
>
> This verb’s infinitive, “habére” (to have), indicated in the dictionary form as “â€"ére” shows that this verb belongs to the 2nd conjugations, as all verbs that have the infinitive ending “-ére” belong to the 2nd conjugation. The second dictionary element, the infinitive, determines which conjugation the verb belongs to. The four types of infinitive endings and the four conjugations determined by the different genitive endings are:
>
> -are = 1st conjugation; e.g.: amo, -are, -avi, -atum (I love)
> -ére = 2nd conjugation; e.g.: habeo, -ere, -bui, -bitum (I have)
> -ere = 3rd conjugation; e.g.: dico, -ere, dixi, dictum (I say)
> -ire = 4th conjugation; e.g.: audio, -ire, -ivi, -itum (I hear)
>
> Note that “â€"ere”, which is short vowel, is different from “â€"ére”, which is long vowel.
>
>
> II. QUESTION 2
>
> Use the Latin dictionary that we used last time, or, if you have to use an online Latin dictionary, use this one:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> Look into the dictionary and determine which conjugations the following 10 verbs belong to (10 x 1 pts).
>
> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their infinitive form (10 x 0.5 pts) and their perfect tense form (10 x 0.5 pts), and their supine/past participle (10 x 0.5 pts).
>
> impero
> facio
> debeo
> veto
> edico
> laudo
> respondeo
> servio
>
> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:
>
> ago;
>
> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is “ago, -ere, egi, actum”, so you will give the following data:
>
> ago, 3rd conjugation (1pt); agere (0.5pt), egi (0.5pt), actum (0.5pt)
>
> Comments: it’s 3rd conjugation because the infinitive (second dictionary form) “â€"ere” ending shows it. If it were “â€"ére” with long vowel “é”, it would have been 2nd conjugation.
>
>
>
> IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM
>
> One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not to this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...> within 48 hours of posting. Please do *not* post answers to the list! Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong address will not be awarded with points.
>
> The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced together with the posting of the next questions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS - EXTENDED DEADLINE FOR TOMORROW
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> March 3rd - Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani â€" Question 1 of the Certamen Latinum
>
> I. INTRODUCTION 1 - Dictionary Forms of Nouns
>
>
>
> Latin is a heavily inflected language, which means that Latin indicates
> grammatical information by changing the ending of the words. Nouns are
> grouped into 5 declensions (noun inflection groups), verbs can be
> classified into 4 conjugations (verb inflection groups). If we change a
> noun’s ending to express its grammatical role, we say we “decline” it.
> If we change a verb’s ending to express the person or the time (tense),
> we say we “conjugate” it. To determine which declension or conjugation
> group a verb belongs to, you have to look into a Latin dictionary.
>
>
>
> Today we will examine the dictionary forms of nouns only.
>
>
>
> In the case of nouns, for example, “friend”, you will find:
>
>
>
> amicus, -i, m.
>
>
>
> This is 3 pieces of information:
>
>
>
> (1)              amicus;
>
> (2)              -i;
>
> (3)              m.
>
>
>
> (1) This means that the word “friend” in nominative (subject) case is
> “amicus”. Learn more about what nominative case means here, on our
> website:
>
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative
>
>
>
> (2) The abbreviated form “-i” means that the word “friend” in genitive
> (possessive) case is “amici” (something of friend, or friend’s
> something), thus the original ending “-us” changes to “-i”. Learn more
> about what nominative case means here, on our website:
>
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive
>
>
>
> Well, this is the most important point. This ending “â€"i” determines that
> “amicus” belongs to the “second declension”, whose identifier is the
> genitive “â€"i”. As we have mentioned, there are 5 declensions, and each
> one of these has a unique, declension-specific genitive ending. It’s
> important because the genitive ending determines the other inflections
> as well. The five types of genitive ending and the five declensions
> determined by the different genitive endings are:
>
>
>
> -ae = 1st declension, e.g.: Roma, -ae, f (Rome)
>
> -i = 2nd declension, eg.: amicus, -i, m (friend)
>
> -is = 3rd declension, e.g.: rex, regis, m (king)
>
> -ús = 4th declension, eg.: senatus, -ús, m (senate)
>
> -ei = 5th declension, eg. fides, -ei, f (loyalty)
>
>
>
> (3) The “m.” means that it is a masculine noun. In Latin, all nouns have
> three genders, they are masculine, (abbreviated as “m”), feminine
> (abbreviated as “f”), and neuter (abbreviated as “n”). English has a
> similar phenomenon when we use “he”, “she” or “it”. The
> new thing in this is that Latin uses these genders for things or
> abstract concepts, too, like in the exemples above, “loyalty” (fides,
> -ei, f) is
> feminine in Latin, the “senate” (senatus, -ús, m) is masculine, “Rome”
> (Roma, -ae, f) is, again,
> feminine.
>
>
>
> II. QUESTION 1
>
>
>
> Find a Latin dictionary. Attention! If you use an online dictionary, be
> aware that most of the online dictionaries are incomplete and do not
> give the
> full, correct dictionary forms of the Latin words. If you can use only
> online resources, please use one of the following Google Books
> digitalized Latin dictionary:
>
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
>
>
> Look into the dictionary and determine which declensions the following 10 nouns belong to (10 x 1 pts).
>
>
>
> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
> possessive form (genitive) (10 x 0.5 pts) and their gender (10 x 0.1
> pts).
>
>
>
> forum
>
> consul
>
> gloria
>
> dignitas
>
> res
>
> pax
>
> nomen
>
> gladius
>
> legio
>
> porticus
>
>
> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:
>
>
>
> praetor;
>
>
>
> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is
> “praetor, -oris, m”, so you will give the following data:
>
>
>
> praetor, 3rd declension (1pt); praetoris (0.5pt), masculine (0.1pt)
>
>
>
> Comments: It’s 3rd declension, because in the abbreviated genitive form given as  “â€"oris” for "praetoris", the genitive ending “-is” determines that it must belong to the 3rd declension.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83382 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: THE NAUMACHIA PRE-SHOW
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Omnes, today is the day of the Naumachia, and the CA Cohors went the extra
mile to have a pre-show presented to get into the spirit of things. We do
hope you that you have enjoyed the activities so far.

Vale optime,
Aeternia



*THE NAUMACHIA PRE-SHOW*


Marcus Fabius Dento: �SALVE ET SALVETE!! WELCOME TO THE PRE-SHOW! I�m
here in the press box with my delightful colleague, Maxima Cornelia
Pulchrissima, and I hear we are in for a whale of an event here, isn�t that
right?�

Pulchrissima: �That�s right, Dento, we�ve been hearing whispers about the
preparations for this event for weeks. Right now there are a few small
skiffs very efficiently clearing the water of any debris left behind. This
service is being provided by Gaius Zambonius, a freedman from Syracuse.�

Dento: �It looks like we�re getting started right now! From both up and
down-stream small boats are entering the show area. There are clouds of
incense, and musicians and singers, all singing the praises of the Nymph
Aquata. And what�s that going on in the water, Pulchrissima?�

Pulchrissima: �It looks like the water is full of mermaids and mermen,
Dento. They are wearing costumes made of gold, silver, and multi-colored
metallic cloth like scales glittering in the sun and the water. They look
like those �expensive� carp in the impluvium at Cn Iulius Caesar�s house.�

Albodentus: �Just beautiful, Pulchrissima, just like you.�

Pulchrissima: � Oh, stop, you�re making me blush.�

Dento: �It�s all true, and our audience agrees, don�t you, folks?� (Big
cheer from audience) �A barge is now making its way to the center of the
Tiber. Have you ever seen anything like it, Pulchrissima?�

Pulchrissima: �I have not, Dento, and I think that�s because this is a one
of a kind vessel, Brightly painted in blues and greens, with gold and
silver accents, and in the center there�s a curtained platform with Veneta
blue silk panels.�

Dento: �And now the mermaids and mermen are catching spools of ribbon
tossed to them by the elegantly draped nymphs on the barge and swimming back
out to form a circle around it.�

Pulchrissima: �The crowd is holding its breath, Dento, something is about
to happen.�

{A horn sounds on the barge and the merpeople tug on the ribbons. The
curtain falls, revealing a raised platform with a Sea Goddess and her court
waving to the crowd. }

Pulchrissima: �It�s Aquata, queen of the Sea Nymphs and her court! Just
look at those gorgeous costumes, Dento, I�m really quite envious of those
girls. And look at their guards! Some of the best looking men I�ve seen in
a long time, armed with gilded tridents.�

Dento: �I thought you�d appreciate them, Pulchrissima. Our Aquata today is
the winner of the All-Alexandria Talent Contest, and was brought here along
with many of the musicians and swimmers by the Curule Aedile Sta. Cornelia
Valeriana Aeternia , who also wrote the song Aquata is about to favor us
with.�

*AQUATA�S SONG:*
(Musicians strike up, platform begins to raise and turn, Aeternia takes her
seat with the fiddle and joins with the other musicians)

*Ask any of the fishies in the seabeds,
They'll all tell you I'm their Mother Pearl.
I love them all and they fawn all over me,
As they shout my name,
Queen La Sirene!

Visit my underwater grotto,
Through the layers of algae and kelp
come dine upon fresh oysters and
the finest lobster,

<<music grows louder and added with horns with a calypso influence>>

There's lots of things,
under the sea to do,
Upon the ocean's floor
That are not up on the dry shore,

They say that life is better under the water.
And that's the way I live,
The entire sea my lagoon,
Didn't you know that this fish tail,
Helps the others swim too?


When you want my favor....

Just listen to my song,
The voice of the Siren,
will never do ya wrong,

Look upon my treasure,
rubies, diamonds, and pearls
See those shiny galleons,
here's one or two for you,

<<<Mermaid Queen and attendants throw galleons to the crowds. Q. Fabius
Maximus falls into the water trying to grab either the galleons or the
merperson tossing them>>

So let's all swim together,
In the Big Ole' Blue,
with Neptune, Triton,
and the aquatic crew,

Join me where the seaweed is always green
And the fish are always briny
So says Aquata
Queen La Sirene!�
*
{Thunderous applause. Praetor Cn. Iulius Caesar is having a very animated
discussion with his steward, about fish, judging by the gestures}

Dento: �Wow! Wasn�t that fantastic, Pulchrissima? What a voice! I�m sure
we�ll be hearing more of her here in Rome.�

Pulchrissima: �I�m sure we will, Dento. It looks like they�ve fished
Fabius up out of the water�I was going to say drink but that wouldn�t be
true, and now for the big surprise of the day! I�m sure you�ve been hearing
people complain about not being able to find fish in the markets for the
past few days, and this is why: troops of slaves with platters of little
fish pastries have appeared and are tossing them into the crowd. The
Curule Aedile has thoughtfully provided us with a platter up here so we can
have a taste as well.�

Dento: (eating) �These are fantastic! What a fabulous pre- show. Thank
you for joining me here in the press box, Pulchrissima.�
Pulchrissima: �My pleasure, Dento. Now on to the sea battle while we
finish up this platter of goodies.�

{{finis}}


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83383 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Salve!

I believe the problem with the alien characters is due to the character set /
character encoding setting in your Hotmail account. If Latin text looks fine
when you view websites that use Latin but it is pretty much only emails that are
giving you problems then this would be the most likely cause.

Vale bene

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis





________________________________
From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 5:24:39 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time
results)


Salve Lentule!

I have two problems with the Latin contest. The first is personal, I do not have
time this Ludus and would only be able to a small percentage out of the many
questions- and I do not like to do anything "incompletely";).
The second is technical. There are so many "alien" characters in the words that
I can't make them out. I thought maybe it was because I accessed the pages on my
mobile but I am now at a computer and I still can't make the most important
words out, I even tried two different browsers. I think the problem is the
apices, they render it unreadable so I am wondering if others are experiencing
that problem as well. It could also happen if you use the "rich-text editor".
Just wanted to let you know amice.

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...>
wrote:
>
> Salvete, Quirites!
>
> What is with you, Romans? Come on now, let's show to the world there is at
>least 10 of you who can do this Contest! :) Only M. Pompeius Caninus and V.
>Valerius Volusus answered Question #1 - glory to these two gentlemen, saving
>Nova Roma from shame! :)
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus 16 pts (all answers correct!!)
> V. Valerius Volusus 14 pts
>
> It's ludi time, people! Let's celebrate and honor good old Mother Nova Roma
>with some playing and gaming! Follow the example of these two outstanding Romans
>above.
>
> Now I *EXTEND* the deadline for the first set of questions, and at the bottom
>of this message you will find Question #1 after today's Question #2. You get an
>additional 24 hours to answer them, together with today's question:
>
>
> March 4th - Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani â€" Question 2 of the Certamen
>Latinum
>
> I. INTRODUCTION 2 - Dictionary Forms of Verbs
>
> Previously we discussed the dictionary form of the Latin nouns. We have learned
>that the dictionary forms of the nouns include the genitive (possessive) form of
>the noun, and its ending determines the entire inflection of the noun, the
>declension of the noun.
>
> Today we study the dictionary forms of the verbs. How can we decide what
>conjugation (verb inflection group) a verb belongs to?
>
> In the case of the verb “have�, you will find:
>
> habeo â€"ére, -bui, -bitum
>
> This is 4 pieces of information:
>
> (1) habeo; it is the first person singular of the verb “have�. It means
>“I have�.
> (2) â€"ere; it’s an abbreviation of “habereâ€�, the infinite of the verb.
>It means “to have�.
> (3) â€"bui; it’s an abbreviation of “habuiâ€�, the perfect tense of the
>verb. It means “I have had� or “I had�.
> (4) â€"bitum; abbreviation of “habitumâ€�, it’s the supine (or the past
>participle).
>
> This verb’s infinitive, “habére� (to have), indicated in the dictionary
>form as “â€"éreâ€� shows that this verb belongs to the 2nd conjugations, as
>all verbs that have the infinitive ending “-ére� belong to the 2nd
>conjugation. The second dictionary element, the infinitive, determines which
>conjugation the verb belongs to. The four types of infinitive endings and the
>four conjugations determined by the different genitive endings are:
>
> -are = 1st conjugation; e.g.: amo, -are, -avi, -atum (I love)
> -ére = 2nd conjugation; e.g.: habeo, -ere, -bui, -bitum (I have)
> -ere = 3rd conjugation; e.g.: dico, -ere, dixi, dictum (I say)
> -ire = 4th conjugation; e.g.: audio, -ire, -ivi, -itum (I hear)
>
> Note that “â€"ereâ€�, which is short vowel, is different from “â€"éreâ€�,
>which is long vowel.
>
>
> II. QUESTION 2
>
> Use the Latin dictionary that we used last time, or, if you have to use an
>online Latin dictionary, use this one:
>
>http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
>e
>
> Look into the dictionary and determine which conjugations the following 10
>verbs belong to (10 x 1 pts).
>
> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
>infinitive form (10 x 0.5 pts) and their perfect tense form (10 x 0.5 pts), and
>their supine/past participle (10 x 0.5 pts).
>
> impero
> facio
> debeo
> veto
> edico
> laudo
> respondeo
> servio
>
> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:
>
> ago;
>
> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is “ago,
>-ere, egi, actum�, so you will give the following data:
>
> ago, 3rd conjugation (1pt); agere (0.5pt), egi (0.5pt), actum (0.5pt)
>
> Comments: it’s 3rd conjugation because the infinitive (second dictionary
>form) “â€"ereâ€� ending shows it. If it were “â€"éreâ€� with long vowel
>“é�, it would have been 2nd conjugation.
>
>
>
> IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM
>
> One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not to
>this e-mail address but to <cnaeus_cornelius@...> within 48 hours of posting.
>Please do *not* post answers to the list! Answers posted publicly or posted to
>the wrong address will not be awarded with points.
>
> The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced
>together with the posting of the next questions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS - EXTENDED DEADLINE FOR TOMORROW
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> March 3rd - Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani â€" Question 1 of the Certamen
>Latinum
>
> I. INTRODUCTION 1 - Dictionary Forms of Nouns
>
>
>
> Latin is a heavily inflected language, which means that Latin indicates
> grammatical information by changing the ending of the words. Nouns are
> grouped into 5 declensions (noun inflection groups), verbs can be
> classified into 4 conjugations (verb inflection groups). If we change a
> noun’s ending to express its grammatical role, we say we “decline� it.
> If we change a verb’s ending to express the person or the time (tense),
> we say we “conjugate� it. To determine which declension or conjugation
> group a verb belongs to, you have to look into a Latin dictionary.
>
>
>
> Today we will examine the dictionary forms of nouns only.
>
>
>
> In the case of nouns, for example, “friend�, you will find:
>
>
>
> amicus, -i, m.
>
>
>
> This is 3 pieces of information:
>
>
>
> (1) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â amicus;
>
> (2) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â -i;
>
> (3) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â m.
>
>
>
> (1) This means that the word “friend� in nominative (subject) case is
> “amicus�. Learn more about what nominative case means here, on our
> website:
>
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative
>
>
>
> (2) The abbreviated form “-i� means that the word “friend� in genitive

> (possessive) case is “amici� (something of friend, or friend’s
> something), thus the original ending “-us� changes to “-i�. Learn more

> about what nominative case means here, on our website:
>
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive
>
>
>
> Well, this is the most important point. This ending “â€"iâ€� determines that
> “amicus� belongs to the “second declension�, whose identifier is the
> genitive “â€"iâ€�. As we have mentioned, there are 5 declensions, and each
> one of these has a unique, declension-specific genitive ending. It’s
> important because the genitive ending determines the other inflections
> as well. The five types of genitive ending and the five declensions
> determined by the different genitive endings are:
>
>
>
> -ae = 1st declension, e.g.: Roma, -ae, f (Rome)
>
> -i = 2nd declension, eg.: amicus, -i, m (friend)
>
> -is = 3rd declension, e.g.: rex, regis, m (king)
>
> -ús = 4th declension, eg.: senatus, -ús, m (senate)
>
> -ei = 5th declension, eg. fides, -ei, f (loyalty)
>
>
>
> (3) The “m.� means that it is a masculine noun. In Latin, all nouns have
> three genders, they are masculine, (abbreviated as “m�), feminine
> (abbreviated as “f�), and neuter (abbreviated as “n�). English has a
> similar phenomenon when we use “he�, “she� or “it�. The
> new thing in this is that Latin uses these genders for things or
> abstract concepts, too, like in the exemples above, “loyalty� (fides,
> -ei, f) is
> feminine in Latin, the “senate� (senatus, -ús, m) is masculine, “Rome�
>
> (Roma, -ae, f) is, again,
> feminine.
>
>
>
> II. QUESTION 1
>
>
>
> Find a Latin dictionary. Attention! If you use an online dictionary, be
> aware that most of the online dictionaries are incomplete and do not
> give the
> full, correct dictionary forms of the Latin words. If you can use only
> online resources, please use one of the following Google Books
> digitalized Latin dictionary:
>
>
>http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
>e
>
>
>
> Look into the dictionary and determine which declensions the following 10 nouns
>belong to (10 x 1 pts).
>
>
>
> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their
> possessive form (genitive) (10 x 0.5 pts) and their gender (10 x 0.1
> pts).
>
>
>
> forum
>
> consul
>
> gloria
>
> dignitas
>
> res
>
> pax
>
> nomen
>
> gladius
>
> legio
>
> porticus
>
>
> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:
>
>
>
> praetor;
>
>
>
> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is
> “praetor, -oris, m�, so you will give the following data:
>
>
>
> praetor, 3rd declension (1pt); praetoris (0.5pt), masculine (0.1pt)
>
>
>
> Comments: It’s 3rd declension, because in the abbreviated genitive form given
>as “â€"orisâ€� for "praetoris", the genitive ending “-isâ€� determines
>that it must belong to the 3rd declension.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83384 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Presenting The NAUMACHIA
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Quirites, the moment that many have been waiting for has arrived. The CA
Cohors would like to present the Naumachia, this sea battle in particular is
a virtual reenactment of the famous Naumachia of Emperor Claudius circa 52
A.D. I would also like to take this moments and thank members of the
Cohors A. Decia Scriptrix and M. Pompeius Caninus for their research in
this project and their hard work.

Enjoy Omnes!

Vale Optime,
Aeternia


*THE NAUMACHIA*

Scriptrix: Welcome, welcome all. It is a beautiful day with lovely weather.

Caninus: Yes, at least the poor sailors getting dunked in the Tiber will be
warm, if not sanitary.

Scriptrix: A huge pavilion has been erected on the East bank of the Tiber
and everyone important has a seat there. Our Esteemed consuls are watching
over the proceedings with benevolent eyes with the Praetors flanking them.

Caninus: Yes, and there is our censors, Sabinus and Albucius. I see that
most of our senators are also there.

Scriptrix: Yes I see Senator Audens (waves) as well as our own Aediles and
their large entourage (waves frantically at Aeternia) Doesn�t Aeternia look
good in that ocean blue in honour of Neptune.

Caninus: Yes she does. And who is that man with Pontifex Iulia Aquila,
Domina Factionis for the Albatae?

Scriptrix: Oh, that is Faustus Felix. He always seems to be all these
events. Watch out, he has hands like an octopus.

Caninus: I will not ask how you know that. Let�s get down to business.

Scriptrix: Today we will see the re-enactment of the famous sea battle
between the Athenians and the Syracusans.

Caninus: Yes, on our right hand side we have the Athenians, led by Centurion
M. Didius Aquila.

Scriptrix: Isn�t he the son of commander Sp. Didius Aquila?

Caninus: Yes, and he will definitely be showing off his commanding skills
today.

Scriptrix: I can see a group of his fans shouting from the pons Aemilius.

Caninus: Those airheaded teenagers!

Scriptrix: It could have been worse, they could have been idolising some of
those Greek actors. (laughs)

Caninus: But to continue, leading the Syracusans in this skirmish is Calidus
the gladiator.

Scriptrix. Oooh, that should be quite a contest. Those two have been at it
since the situation with that merchant�s daughter. At least it would make
the event today interesting.

Caninus: Well yes, (disapproving look) moving on, each side has a trireme as
a flagship, 20 biremes and about 15 liburnae.

Scriptrix: With both sides evenly matched it should be the superior tactics
that will carry the day.

Caninus: Yes definitely, I think that Centurion Aquila can be assured of
his victory even if historically the Athenians actually lost against the
Syracusans. Gladiators have never had the superior training of our military.

Scriptrix: I think you are totally underestimating Calidus. You do not get
to be the top gladiator without learning a few things about tactics and for
all his military upbringing, Aquilus is still only a young man.

Caninus: It might be , we will just have to see what happens.
Citizens, as you can see, the space in which these two fleets need to
manoeuvre is quite small and that would probably account for the choice of
biremes and liburnae.

Scriptrix: That should also cut down on the possibility of serious injury as
the liburnae cannot really ram but will have to rely on boarding and
manoeuvering tactics.

Caninus: Yes, certainly, but no matter how careful the planning, injuries
will happen. Fortunately the temple of Aesculapius on the Tiberine island is
right on hand to treat all the injured that the skiffs will carry there as
fast as possible.

Scriptrix: So that is what the function is of all the small little boats on
the sides. That one (points) however do not look like they are on an errand
of mercy.

Caninus: (exclaims disgusted under his breath) ISTI photodiurnarii!

Scriptrix: Wow, that is harsh. Who are they?

Caninus: Those are the photojournalists who supplies the tabloids with all
those inaccurate stories.

Scriptrix: Oh����oh (comprehension). That is not exactly a safe position
that they occupy in that little boat almost exactly where the two fleets are
going to meet.

Caninus: The trident is rising from the water, in the middle of the Tiber.
Everyone is getting ready. There, it is sinking again, and they are moving.

Scriptrix: that is a remarkable feat of engineering. Both banks of the Tiber
are packed today with spectators and even the bridges are 10 deep in
citizens. No traffic other than pedestrians are allowed for the duration of
this spectacle.

Caninus: Isn�t that the sister of Centurion Aquilus? Should she be here in
her condition?

Scriptrix: Yes, I see. Even her pregnancy could not keep her away from
seeing her brother in action today. Her husband seems to be arguing with
her.
Why is Aquila�s force looking smaller than that of Calidus�?

Caninus; It seems that he is not throwing all of his ships immediately into
the fray. Where are the rest of his ships, I cannot see them?

Scriptrix: It looks like Calidus is trying to mob Aquilus from the start.
That puts Calidus� ships in a vulnerable position while they are trying to
get close. See, two of the liburnae just got rammed! At least they are
swimming to the rescue boats. If Calidus keeps this up he will soon run out
of ships.

Caninus: It is a sound tactic as some of his boats are through and are
boarding two of Aquilus� biremes. Now it will be hand to hand combat. That
will need a lot of manpower to be effective. Calidus seems to have found a
way around that! He has armed his rowers! (jumps up excitedly and the
platform the commentators are on shakes alarmingly) This is certainly a very
bold move. It more than doubles the manpower that he can call upon.

Scriptrix: (hanging on to her seat) errrrr�..please sit down. This platform
is not very stable. Aquilus has not been slacking throughout this. His
trireme flagship has broken through and he is nearing the flagship of
Calidus. He is trying to ram him but Calidus has swung about quite sharply
to port side. However it is not enough to get totally out of the way, the
oars are still in the way.

Caninus: You can just see the oarsmen scrambling to get out of the way. Oh,
some were not so lucky. There are definitely going to be some broken bones
there. Aquilus is now lowering his corvus onto his opponent�s ship � he is
getting ready to board. His other ships are not faring as well. I can see
quite a few floundering with Calidus� armed rowers victorious.

Scriptrix: That might be, but quite a few of Calidus� ships are also
breaking up. But what is happening there behind Calidus� lines?

Caninus: Oh yes! (shouts and jumps to the edge of the platform) That is
Aquilus� spare forces. The centurion kept a few sixes up his sleeve.

Scriptrix: (also moving to the edge) Those photodiurnarii is right in the
way of the reserve forces! They are run over! Their equipment is never going
to survive a dunking in the Tiber. But what is going on there on the
riverbank.

Caninus: Watch the action Scriptrix! Aquilus is all over Calidus� flagship
and his reserve forces have hit Calidus� ships from behind and they are
rested while Calidus� forces are tired. Why is his attention wandering?
(shouts) Pay attention to your opponent!

Scriptrix: There is some or the other commotion around his sister on the
riverbank stadium. They are bringing a sedan chair for her. Oh my � I think
she went into labour.

Caninus: (still shouting agitatedly at Aquilus) What are you doing! You are
winning!

(Aquilus has stripped his armour and done a running jump off his trireme,
swimming to the bank of the Tiber to the stadium where his sister is)

Scriptrix: (hanging on to the railing) Caninus, you need to calm down. This
platform is getting more shaky by the second.

With a groan the platform gives way and plunges towards the Tiber.

Scriptrix: Screams!

----------------------------------------------------------------

Scriptrix: (shivering under a blanket) It seems that Calidus has won this
engagement by default due to Aquilus leaving the river before his victory
was assured. But it seems that he had another victory as he became uncle to
a bouncing baby boy � congratulations to both our contenders. Now I am off
to the baths to get the Tiber out of my hair.


{{Finis}}


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83385 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Ave Canine,

It is on the internet, in both browsers I use.
I don't get the ML in my email or else I shall be driven insane;)and it might very well fall into the bottomless pit of the backlog!
It does not happen often but when it does it becomes a whole new puzzle.

Gratias,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "M. Pompeius Caninus" <m.pompeius@...> wrote:
>
> Salve!
>
> I believe the problem with the alien characters is due to the character set /
> character encoding setting in your Hotmail account. If Latin text looks fine
> when you view websites that use Latin but it is pretty much only emails that are
> giving you problems then this would be the most likely cause.
>
> Vale bene
>
> M. Pompeius Caninus
> Bethel, Alaska, USA
> America Boreoccidentalis
>
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83386 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Caesar Iuliae sal

Try to alter the encoding setting of your browser. The reason I think your
problem is intermittent is due to most people probably posting in the
Western European (Windows) code, whereas I suspect Lentulus has his coding
set to Unicode (ATF-8).

Assuming you are on a PC as opposed to a Mac, in your Windows Internet
Explorer browser (again assumption you have this and use it) go to the top
menu bar. From the fully opened view menu choose Encoding. Then, if I am
right, you should see Western European (Windows) check marked. Select
"more", find Unicode (ATF-8), click on it to select it and then view
Lentulus' message again. You should see it reads fine then. Remember you may
need to reset it back to Western European (Windows).

Optime vale


-----Original Message-----
From: luciaiuliaaquila
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:08 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time
results)

Ave Canine,

It is on the internet, in both browsers I use.
I don't get the ML in my email or else I shall be driven insane;)and it
might very well fall into the bottomless pit of the backlog!
It does not happen often but when it does it becomes a whole new puzzle.

Gratias,
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83387 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Caesar Iuliae sal.

Mistype - that should be UTF-8, not ATF-8.

Optime vale

-----Original Message-----
From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:46 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part
time results)

Caesar Iuliae sal

Try to alter the encoding setting of your browser. The reason I think your
problem is intermittent is due to most people probably posting in the
Western European (Windows) code, whereas I suspect Lentulus has his coding
set to Unicode (ATF-8).

Assuming you are on a PC as opposed to a Mac, in your Windows Internet
Explorer browser (again assumption you have this and use it) go to the top
menu bar. From the fully opened view menu choose Encoding. Then, if I am
right, you should see Western European (Windows) check marked. Select
"more", find Unicode (ATF-8), click on it to select it and then view
Lentulus' message again. You should see it reads fine then. Remember you may
need to reset it back to Western European (Windows).

Optime vale


-----Original Message-----
From: luciaiuliaaquila
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:08 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time
results)

Ave Canine,

It is on the internet, in both browsers I use.
I don't get the ML in my email or else I shall be driven insane;)and it
might very well fall into the bottomless pit of the backlog!
It does not happen often but when it does it becomes a whole new puzzle.

Gratias,



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83388 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Caninus Iuliae sal:


Go to this pageto see if your browser is set correctly to display Unicode text:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/latin_extended_a/utf8test.htm




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83389 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Checking and changing character encoding
Caninus Iuliae sal:

My iPad sent the last message a bit prematurely. Here is a page that describes how to change character encoding if your browser is showing gibberish.

Bene vale!

Caninus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83390 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: Checking and changing character encoding
http://www.ccs.uottawa.ca/webmaster/templates/faq/weird-characters.html


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83391 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - STREET REPORT - From your roving reporter
Salvete omnes

Welcome to Rome on the day of the Naumachia, the great sea-battle re-enacted on our very own river Tiber.

I'm here to bring you a report on the scene in down-town Rome as the crowds are leaving the river. Now ladies and gentlemen, the streets are absolutely packed with people. Everyone has wanted to watch the action down on the river, and stands have been built up on both sides so that the folks can get a good view.

But even those stands have not been enough, and all the streets looking down on the action have been packed, every rooftop, every balcony, every possible vantage point has been completely filled. They must have enjoyed the spectacle. That's something we have not seen very often here in Rome.

And where else in the world could this possibly have been staged? A great show like this needs great people, and let me tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that the people of Nova Roma are the greatest people in the whole world to be able to put on a display like this one today.
I'm just going to talk to some in the crowd.

"Excuse me Sir, did you enjoy the action down there today?"
"Oh, I'll say, yes, what an adventure, absolutely fantastic".
"And did you get a good view?"
"Oh yes, we were up on the stands they had built, and we could see everything with a bird's eye view"
"And who were you supporting today?"
"Oh, I was just cheering everyone, they were all so good. And the boats were moving around so fast, and suddenly finding an opening to attack".
"Well, thank you Sir, thanks for taking the time to tell us about it".

Now ladies and gentlemen, I was going to try to make my way back up into town, but, let me tell you, the streets are so crowded we can hardly move. Its going to take a long time to clear the streets, and the magistrates and officials have still got to move on to other functions. They've all got a busy day. They were up early to make last minute checks on the preparations, and there will be celebrations afterwards that they have got to get to.

But they have even arranged that, because I can just see some movement starting to open up. I think that must be - just a moment - yes, its a guard detachment, and, if I'm not mistaken, they're from the Seventh Cohort of the Thirtieth, who are in transit through Rome this week. Well, they certainly know how to make the crowds stand aside. I'll see if I can just get in behind them. Excuse me Sir, - can I just - No, you go that way and I'll - there that's better, now I'm right behind the guard.

I can see their commander at the front. He's Centurion Parnesius, and I understand that the Consuls are going to thank him later for the work he's been doing on his campaign. They really do look magnificent, ladies and gentlemen, their equipment gleams, their uniforms have all been refurbished after their long marches, - they really are the pride of our armies today.

And right behind them come the lictors, and here are the Consuls, the Praetors and Censors, the Aediles who are Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia and Aulus Vitellius Celsus - now let me remind you, ladies and gentlemen, that we need to thank those two for arranging these games that we are all able to enjoy for these thirteen days. Aeternia is dashing this way and that, because everyone wants to have the honour of walking beside her and talking to her about the fantastic show she has been in charge of today. There's a little flower girl who is handing out handfuls of petals to throw on the street for Aeternia to walk on. Oh, and that's Gaia Valeria Pulchra, the Aediles Plebis, with Flavia Lucilla Merula, Lucia Iulia Aquila and Vibia Rutilia Enodiaria who have just joined arms with Aeternia and are dancing along together. What happy faces they have, ladies and gentlemen, this must be one of the best days of their lives. Oh I wish you could see this, ladies and gentlemen, I really do. They are really dancing now on the carpet of flower petals - where on earth are all these petals coming from - but the little flower girl still has a full tray and still people are throwing whole handfuls - I can't explain it, but its really an incredible sight.

And right behind Aeternia are the Happy Bees with their little bee emblems. They have been doing all the leg work to make everything run smoothly. Well done you Happy Bees.

The crowd are cheering like mad things, waving banners - ah but wait, the guard have halted. We have now reached one of the squares, and we are out of the crush of the crowd. Now the guard has fallen into line, and Parnesius has marched smartly to the front.I can hear his powerful voice giving the commands. Left turn. Attention. There is a deafening crash as their caligae hit the paved street.

The Consuls move forward, and the Lictors take up position. Parnesius comes forward and - yes, I can see that he is talking to the Consuls, then snaps smartly back to attention and about-turns with military precision to face his men. The guards give him a cheer - now that's not something you often hear from the troops to their centurion, but clearly Parnesius is highly respected by his men. Another deafening crash, and the guard marches off to its duties.

Now Aeternia and Celsus have come forward and are laughing and smiling with the Consuls. And - what's this? - tables of wine and cordials have been brought out, and all the officials are having a welcome refreshment. Aeternia has beckoned to the Happy Bees and here they come to join her for a drink. What a happy team they are, ladies and gentlemen, and how hard they have all worked. I can see they're already in party mode.

And that's not all, ladies and gentlemen. A troupe of dancing girls has appeared. What a delightful sight, ladies and gentlemen, they look so colourful with their hoops of flowers. Over there are the tambourines and flutes, and the girls keep perfect time to the beat. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I must say that the Aediles have thought of everything, and have given the people another round of entertainment jut when we all thought the day's events were over.

But I hear they're not quite over yet, because a party is being thrown over at the Cornelian Compound on Aeternia's villa estate. My colleague Scipius will be covering that later on.

Well ladies, its been a fantastic day here in Rome, one that we will long remember. Now, I think there is a tavern just back there where I can get a drink to soothe my dry throat. Remember to stay tuned for more reports coming your way here today.

Valete omnes
Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83392 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Wiki Editor help please
Salvete

I need the help of one of the Wiki editors to see if a project can be done.

Thanks

Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83393 From: Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Venator in absentia...
Salve et Salvete;

I should like to apologize for my sudden absence over the last number of days...

The first anniversary of my dad's passing hit me very hard and I've
been online, but avoiding anything, which would have taken thought and
decision making into account. My job was also in question for a
couple of weeks, and that added to the down slide.

I have also avoided "conversing" with anyone about it. In many ways,
I am much more like him than I openly admit: quiet, stolid, prone to
look out for others before myself, prone to avoid letting others know
I am hurting. Likely all parts of the reasons behind the bout I had
with depression a few years back. It is a darkness always creeping
around the back of my mind.

I will spend today and tomorrow catching up.

He would want me to get on with my life.

Thank you all in advance for whatever tolerance you choose to show me.

Nova Roma is important to me, I shall endeavor to get past this and be
of better service.

--
In amicitia et fide
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator
Civis et Poeta
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83394 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Salvete omnes

The Games had moved down to the river today. It was amazing to see what had been set up, for there were stands rising up on both banks, and they were packed with spectators. Every roof, balcony and vantage point as far as the eye could see was also filled, and even the streets that had a view of the river were full. It was simply the biggest crowd that could be imagined, and, even after we had found seats, more and more people were still arriving for the spectacle. We were certainly lucky with our seats, as we could see right down and along the river which is where the day's action took place.

And what a day it was. The main action was a sea battle, and we cheered as the boats charged at one another, wheeling round and probing for advantage. The boats got up quite a speed, even on the narrow parts. And we cheered loudly to see such a spectacle. We even joined in. Each time the boats charged, all on our bench pretended we were rowing at top speed. Those at the ends of the bench called out the time, and we all grabbed our make-believe oars, hauled back grunting and straining, and pushing our feet against the planks. It was surprising that the stands did not give way under this pressure, but they had been well designed and built. We gasped and cheered at the action on the river, we pulled our oars hard during the charges, we leant over to make our make-believe ship veer to another course, and we pounded our feet as the marines boarded and captured the enemy.

We were glad to take a break when there was a lull in the action, especially when a floating tableau came into view and we could sit back and admire the way the scenes on board had been crafted.

There was just so much excitement, and we were so out of breath by our "rowing" that we were eager for the fruit and drinks that the merchants brought. From right down by the river's edge, up on to the stands, and right up to the top, fruit and cool drinks were brought for us to buy. What a day that was. How well everything was organised. What excitement we all had. Could anywhere in the world even compare to Rome during the games, especially the games organised by this year's aediles? New Rome is the best state in the whole world!

When it was time to leave, we were carried along by the press of the crowds, so it did not seem too long before we were at the corner of the street we were heading to. And, as we turned the corner, there were the two familiar figures walking along together ahead of us. They were Merlinius in his tall floppy hat, and his friend Parnesius the Centurion. They ducked under the door into the tavern called the Eagle, and we hastened to catch them up.

We all went through into the back room where the fire burned and the three couches were placed around the small table. Everyone had seen the spectacle on the Tiber, and everyone was excited by what they had seen. We all wanted to know about the gods of the sea, and Merlinius agreed to tell us as soon as we provided the evening's wine. After the jugs of Falernian arrived, he began his story.

"The god of the sea is called Neptune by you Romans, but he has many different names among many different peoples. The Greeks called him Poseidon, and he was their god of the sea and of earthquakes".
"He was the brother of Iuppiter, greatest and best, and of Pluto. These three brothers divided the world into three parts to be ruled between them. Iuppiter, greatest and best took the sky, Neptune the sea and Pluto the underworld. Neptune had a fearsome reputation for having a violent temper. Tempests, earthquakes and storms at sea were created out of his furious rage".

"But despite his rages, he could still fall in love. One of those he fell in love with was a nymph called Amphitrite who lived on the island of Naxos. Neptune passed by the island in his seashell carriage drawn by sea-horses, and he saw Amphitrite dancing. He immediately fell madly in love with her, and pleaded with her to marry him. She was frightened by his reputation for anger and rage, and refused. But he did not give up. He sent one of his dolphins to find her and talk to her. The dolphin was an excellent advocate, and he pleaded Neptune's cause so persuasively that she changed her mind. As a reward for finding and returning Amphitrite to him, Neptune immortalized the dolphin by placing it in the heavens as the constellation Dolphinus".

Merlinius took a long sip of his wine, and reminded us how Neptune was associated with horses.
"You know, of course, that when the waves are blown by the wind into a white spray, that we talk about sea-horses. The shape of a wave crashing onto a beach reminds us of the shape of a horse, with its mane flowing behind it, its body curving, and its front legs pounding on the shore. Neptune created horses as his gift to Athens, and you Romans introduced horse races in the circuses that marked the festivals of Neptune. Neptune's sea-shell carriage is drawn by either whales or by sea-horses, and during the horse races at the circuses all other horses are given a holiday from their work, and even the mules are adorned with wreaths of flowers. You call him Neptune Equester, and he is the patron of horse races. That is why his temple is near the Circus Flaminius, and he also has one in the Campus Martius, where the Neptunalia festival is held".

Parnesius, who did not usually interrupt his friend, spoke up at this point. "You know", he said "it's strange how Rome links Neptune to horses more than the Greeks did. I suppose that is because we Romans prefer to have our campaigns on land, whereas the Greeks were much more fond of sea-fighting and sea voyages than we are. I have marched my cohort across Gaul to Portus Itius, but our mood always changed as soon as we saw the sea ahead of us. We preferred our roads to the unknown dangers of the sea, and we always made an offering to Neptune before we boarded our ships to take us across those few miles of water".

"Ah yes", replied Merlinius, "I remember how quiet you all became before that short voyage. I believe that it was only the lighthouses at Dubris that gave you the assurance that there was another shore on the other side. Do you remember how the name the British called that place was Dubras, which is their word for the waters? Your marines are used to the ocean, and do not fear sailing on it, but you and your men love the land. But if it wasn't for the fleet and the transport ships, you would find life much less comfortable across the seas. And here in Rome, so much of what we eat every day comes to us by ship, so we need to be thankful to Neptune for guarding the vessels that bring our food to us from far away."

"Still, brighten up", he continued, "tomorrow you are back on dry land, so you can enjoy the games without the fears of sea monsters".

We had all enjoyed the naumachia, and been thrilled by the story of the sea battle, but we all knew in our hearts that when Neptune strikes the ground with his trident and the wind roars and the sea is whipped up, we would rather watch it on our own Father Tiber.

We drank our wine, and started talking about the games for tomorrow. It would be good to be back on dry land, back in our usual seats in our usual arena, surrounded by all the comforts of Rome. She is, indeed, the greatest city in the world.

"Come on, old fellow" said Parnesius. I don't want my men getting too comfortable. Let's check that the guards are about their duties. The appearance of a Centurion of the Ulpia Victrix will soon frighten away any thoughts of sea monsters, with or without a train of nymphs and tritons."

And off they went into the night.

Valete omnes
Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83395 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Naumachian After Party
The Naumachian After Party:

Two hours, was all he had for the exclusive interview of a
lifetime, in his field of work this would either what one would say
"make or break" a guy and it's the first big interview too. But two hours!
That's not enough time to do good work, to really get in there and get
the juicy bits of a story. Two hours, 120 minutes, was all that was
given to Caeso Tarquinius
Scipius to do an exclusive interview on Aedile Curule Cornelia
Aeternia's Naumachia after-party.

After reaching the destination of the "Cornelian Compound" what
it was often nicknamed as, Senator and recently appointed CFO Cornelius
Sulla had a vast estate, acres upon acres, villas stretched upon thresholds.
Of course the Aedile's Villa Estate was the farthest one in the most
southern corner, no it couldn't be held in one of the other
Cornelian's villas where it was somewhere
daresay closer to reach. Once security checked me over along with my
camera guy, and confirmed I was with Channel 4 Nova Roma news, I was
allowed to enter, given water
since it appeared we were out of breath, and a moment to compose
myself, since the guards said it would be rude to appear before
'Mother Bee' in such a dishevelled state.

"Mother Bee?" as I thought to myself.. What's a "Mother Bee?"

A quick look around and I was bedazzled by the spectacle, Aeternia's
usual dungeon looking palace was transformed into Atlantis itself. It
really looked like a palace transplanted onto the ocean floor.
Tonight's theme was
"Nautical" and "Dress to impress" One must wonder if the new Curule
magistrate had the intention of keeping her Villa in its current
condition. Reminded
that my two hour time clock was now ticking, right. The game plan was
to finagle my way through the party, pick up any info along the way, and
score an interview with CA Aeternia. Cakewalk, I mean how hard could
this possibly be?

<<<Transpiring One Hour later>>>

Ack ye Gods! An hour later and still haven't found the Aedile,
found every Magistrate, Senator, Religious Official, Scribae, and
all of Rome just about but no Aedile! First I tried the library where
I encountered the
academic sextet of: Q.Caecilius Metellus Pius, Q. Valerius Poplicola, M.
Cornelius Gualterus, L. Cornelius Cicero, C. Tullius Valerianus and
the wonderful Cn.
Livia Ocella who looked exceptionally fetching in turquoise were admidst a deep
scholarly discussion of some kind and appeared to not want to be
bothered by the press.

Upon entering one of the salons, was another sight to behold, the
statuesque beauty of Pontifex L. Julia Aquila garbed in ivory and gold,
with her bevy of newly acquired handsomely clean-cut gladiators.
There were musicians playing
lyres, a giant calliope, and other musical instruments, people dancing
on the vast dance floor including a C. Popillius Laenas dancing
elegantly with an array of women. Surely thought to have spotted the
phantom Aedile whose known penchant is dancing, luck
doesn't seem to be on my side tonight. Hearing women's laughter
outside the door,
grew a bit hopeful, it was to my surprise delight Helena Galeria,
Diana Octavia Aventina, and Ti. Galerius Paulinus , all decked in
varying hues of Blue discussing on how to acquire a good Gladiator and
strategies, with
other individuals such as T. Iulius Sabinus Pontifex Maximus and
newcomer citizens C.
Petronius Africanus and M. Pompeius Caninus. A similar conversation
involved A. Decia
Scriptrix and other members of the Sodalitas Militarium about today's
Sea Battle and the unexpected birth that occurred in a nearby corner.

Down the hallway into another massive room, there were ladies
singing in acapella, this must be the group "The Neptunia's" managed by
C. Equitius Cato, a new side business venture, you can hear him
coaching. The even more hilarious part was you had Magistra Scholastica
who looked regal in blue and white, and her companion for
the evening C. Petronius Dexter also dashing in Oceanic Blue translating
the singing into flawless latin. And then there they were the other big
fishes of our republic: Cn. Iulius Caesar, P. Memmius Albucius, L.
Cornelius Sulla, Q. Fabius Maximus, Q. Seutonius Paulinus, and other
Senators chatting amongst
themselves, I could only decipher something about goldfish. Their
scribes, C. Cocceius Spinula, C. Marcius Crispus, and Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
in his Pontifex regalia of dark blue, also chatting amongst themselves
but doubtful it was about goldfish.

<<<Transpiring 30 Minutes Later>>>

I went out onto the spacious gardens which were transformed into an
aquatic dreamland, where I was approached by what looked like Naiads,
nymphs of the sea.
C. Valeria Pulchra, Fl. Lucilla Merula, and V. Rutilia Enodia garbed in
pink, sea green, and violet blue playfully enjoying the fountain and
the gardens, they invite me for what looks like an old fashioned tea
party, with teas,
cakes, turkish delight, and other exotic delicacies. Food was in
massive abundance tonight, the Aedile spared no expense, but this looked like
something that was set up for these three matrons in specific, and for
once I did not want to intrude. I inquired where I could possibly the
Hostess of this event. I was pointed in the direction of Seneca who
was in a lonesome corner.

C. Lucretius Seneca, an individual of not many words but definite
actions as I came to find out, merely stated "Q.B. will found in the
basement". Did I mention that to get to the basement you had to be
escorted by armed guards?

Finally thank Fortuna! There was Aeternia deeply involved in a
game of cards with Consul Maior P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator and
longtime friend and mentor P. Tiberia-Minucia Strabo. She merely
looked at me, and said that I could interview her whilst playing the
card game.


<<<Transpiring 15 minutes later>>>

Aeternia's brain was a complex labyrinth of ideas and thoughts, it
was an immense joy to have interviewed her, but I felt confused as if
learned something and yet nothing at the same time. As I made my way
out of the aquatic palace, I saw an old man with a floppy hat and a
disgruntled Centurion, I don't recall seeing on my way in. Maybe
when I wake up in the morning this was all just a bizarre dream.

~~Finis~~

Vale Optime,
Aeternia

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83396 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Iulia Canino Caesari Scholasticae Lentulo sal.

Gratias y'all, that fixed it, but also gave me one less excuse;)
I may participate unofficially as I doubt I will be able to participate in the entire game;)

Valete optime,

Julia


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> Caninus Iuliae sal:
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83397 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Iulia Canino Caesari Scholasticae Lentulo sal.

OOppps spoke too soon, the Æ looks like this neat diamond with a question mark. How do I know it is this figure? Aeternia's name on the aedilician cohor's home page.

Oh well...

Valete optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
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> Iulia Canino Caesari Scholasticae Lentulo sal.
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> Gratias y'all, that fixed it, but also gave me one less excuse;)
> I may participate unofficially as I doubt I will be able to participate in the entire game;)
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> Valete optime,
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> Julia
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83398 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time results)
Iulia Canino Caesari Scholasticae Lentulo sal

Once more with feeling...
I set it to autodetect and it is now, for this moment anyway, fixed.
Again gratias,

Valete bene,

Jenna

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
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> Iulia Canino Caesari Scholasticae Lentulo sal.
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> OOppps spoke too soon, the Æ looks like this neat diamond with a question mark. How do I know it is this figure? Aeternia's name on the aedilician cohor's home page.
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> Oh well...
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> Valete optime,
>
> Julia
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> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@> wrote:
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> > Iulia Canino Caesari Scholasticae Lentulo sal.
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> > Gratias y'all, that fixed it, but also gave me one less excuse;)
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> > Valete optime,
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83399 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #3 (With answers and part time resu
SALVETE, QUIRITES!


I am very proud that two more competitors joined to M. Pompeius and V. Valerius ! That's a true Roman spirit. Thank you, gentlemen, you show your commitment and dedication to our Nova Roma wonderfully! Now, let's the real race start! With real competitors! But still, we need more... Come out from your caves, shy Romans. Come on, show you can do it. It's your language! :)

Here are the answers to the previous two questions:

Question #1

forum, 2nd declension, fori, neuter
consul, 3rd declension, consulis, masculine
gloria, 1st declension, gloriae, feminine
dignitas, 3rd declension, dignitatis, feminine
res, 5th declension, rei, feminine
pax, 3rd declension, pacis, feminine
nomen, 3rd declension, nominis, neuter
gladius, 2nd declension, gladii, masculine
legio, 3rd declension, legionis, feminine
porticus, 4th declension, porticus, masculine

Question #2

impero, 1st conjugation, imperare, imperavi, imperatum
facio, 3rd conjugation, facere, feci, factum
debeo, 2nd conjugation, debere, debui, debitum
veto, 1st conjugation, vetare, vetui, vetitum
edico, 3rd conjugation, edicere, edixi, edictum
laudo, 1st conjugation, laudare, laudavi, laudatum
respondeo, 2nd conjugation, respondére, respondi, responsum
servio, 4th conjugation, servire, servivi, servitum

RANKINGS - PART TIME RESULTS

1st - M. Pompeius Caninus - 41 pts
1st - P. Constantinus Placidus - 41 pts
2nd - M. Martianius Lupus - 40 pts
3rd - V. Valerius Volusus - 39 pts

Really nice race... but more people are needed!

And now............. TODAY'S QUESTION:
       

March 5th - Day 5 of the Ludi Novi Romani – Question 3 of the Certamen Latinum

I. INTRODUCTION 3 - Declining Nouns in the Nominative, Accusative and Genitive Cases

The day before yesterday we discussed the dictionary form of the Latin nouns. Yesterday we talked about the dictionary form of the verbs. These are essential things to understand before you start using Latin words. Now you are armed to start using Latin words in sentences.

How does Latin use the words in sentences? Does it place them in a particular word order to express grammatical function, such as subject and object? Nope. That's the big difference between Latin and English. English uses word order to express who is the subject (the performer, who does something) or the object (which is what the action is being done to, for example, "reading a book", where "book" is the object). In English, the object is always placed after the verb, word order determines whether a word is an object or not.  Latin, however, uses word ending to express grammatical function, such as the object. Latin differentiates subject from object by word ending, i.e. by inflections which is called declension. We learned for the first question of the Certamen Latinum how to determine which declension a noun belongs to. Now it's time to make use of this knowledge. We will decline some words creating subjects, objects, or possessive forms from them.
Please review the information about how to determine which declension a noun belongs to, following this link:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV/Certamen_Latinum

Today we learn how to change the endings of the Latin nouns pertaining to different declensions.

In Latin, the subject form of a noun is called the 'nominative case'. Learn more here:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative

The object form of a noun is called the 'accusative case' in Latin. Check this out, on our website:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Accusative

The Latin possessive form of a noun is called 'genitive case'. We learned about it when studying the dictionary forms of nouns. We know why the genitive is so important: the gentive ending differentiates what declension a noun belongs to.  Therefore the gentive of each noun is given in the dictionary, and when somebody learns Latin nouns, he learns the gentive of the noun together with the first dictionary form, the nominative, because without knowing the genitive of the word, you could not know which declination it belongs to, and thus you could not decline the word, which means you could not use the word in a sentence. Learn more about gentive here:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive

II. QUESTION 3

Put the following nouns into the *singular* and *plural* *nominative*, *accusative* and *genitive* cases (10 x 6pts), using our website as your guide to how to decline the nouns. Use these same links I have given above:
http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative
http://novaroma.org/nr/Accusative
http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive

Be careful, and read ALL information on the pages!

pietas, -atis, f = goodness, piety
telephonum, -i, n = phone
consulatus, -ús, m = consulship
deus, -i, m = god
gens, gentis, f = clan
concordia, -ae, f = agreement
ius, iuris, n = right
dies, -éí, mf = day
lex, legis, f = law
bicyclum, -i, n = bicycle

III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:

res, -ei, f = thing;

- after analyzing this dictionary form, you see that its genitive abbreviated is "-ei", which means that its genitive form written out is: "rei". The genitive ending "-ei" marks the Fifth Declension. Therefore you go to the website, and search for the respective nominative plural, accusative and genitive forms that are needed. You will find them and you can give the following forms:

SINGULAR
nominative = res
accusative = rem
genitive = rei
PLURAL
nominative = res
accusative = res
genitive = rerum

IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM

One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not to this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...> within 48 hours of posting. Please do *not* post answers to the list! Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong address will not be awarded with points.

The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced together with the posting of the next questions.









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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83400 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Latin Contest Thoughts
Cn. Lentulus Iuliae Aquilae s. d.

Answer to the personal problem: it's no problem if you can't answer all questions! The Latin Contest, as well as the other Certamina (Contests), are there for fun, and for learning. "Winning" is just a side effect of them. If you answer 2-3 questions from all, that's totally fine. When answering, I'll send you the corrections, and this way you will be informed if you managed to do it well. It gives you some Latin exercise, and a bit reflection to where are you at Latin.

So I encourage EVERYONE, participate in these Quizzes. Not for winning, and not worrying if you can answer all days or can't. When you have a few time, answer questions, and you'll get corrected, and you learned something, like in school. This is why we are here in Nova Roma. Constant learning. As our pontifex maximus would say, this is the most important thing what NR can provide you with.

And to answer your second point: I used only two apices in that post of mine, so I don't think it's the apices which caused problem. I wrote the text in Rich Text doc, so maybe that. But I see others could help you!

VALE!
Lentulus

 

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Salve Lentule!



I have two problems with the Latin contest. The first is personal, I do not have time this Ludus and would only be able to a small percentage out of the many questions- and I do not like to do anything "incompletely";).

The second is technical. There are so many "alien" characters in the words that I can't make them out. I thought maybe it was because I accessed the pages on my mobile but I am now at a computer and I still can't make the most important words out, I even tried two different browsers. I think the problem is the apices, they render it unreadable so I am wondering if others are experiencing that problem as well. It could also happen if you use the "rich-text editor". Just wanted to let you know amice.



Vale optime,



Julia



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:

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> Salvete, Quirites!

>

> What is with you, Romans? Come on now, let's show to the world there is at least 10 of you who can do this Contest! :) Only M. Pompeius Caninus and V. Valerius Volusus answered Question #1 - glory to these two gentlemen, saving Nova Roma from shame! :)

>

> M. Pompeius Caninus 16 pts (all answers correct!!)

> V. Valerius Volusus 14 pts

>

> It's ludi time, people! Let's celebrate and honor good old Mother Nova Roma with some playing and gaming! Follow the example of these two outstanding Romans above.

>

> Now I *EXTEND* the deadline for the first set of questions, and at the bottom of this message you will find Question #1 after today's Question #2. You get an additional 24 hours to answer them, together with today's question:

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>

> March 4th - Day 4 of the Ludi Novi Romani â€" Question 2 of the Certamen Latinum

>

> I. INTRODUCTION 2 - Dictionary Forms of Verbs

>

> Previously we discussed the dictionary form of the Latin nouns. We have learned that the dictionary forms of the nouns include the genitive (possessive) form of the noun, and its ending determines the entire inflection of the noun, the declension of the noun.

>

> Today we study the dictionary forms of the verbs. How can we decide what conjugation (verb inflection group) a verb belongs to?

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> In the case of the verb “have�, you will find:

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> habeo â€"ére, -bui, -bitum

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> This is 4 pieces of information:

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> (1) habeo; it is the first person singular of the verb “have�. It means “I have�.

> (2) â€"ere; it’s an abbreviation of “habereâ€�, the infinite of the verb. It means “to haveâ€�.

> (3) â€"bui; it’s an abbreviation of “habuiâ€�, the perfect tense of the verb. It means “I have hadâ€� or “I hadâ€�.

> (4) â€"bitum; abbreviation of “habitumâ€�, it’s the supine (or the past participle).

>

> This verb’s infinitive, “habéreâ€� (to have), indicated in the dictionary form as “â€"éreâ€� shows that this verb belongs to the 2nd conjugations, as all verbs that have the infinitive ending “-éreâ€� belong to the 2nd conjugation. The second dictionary element, the infinitive, determines which conjugation the verb belongs to. The four types of infinitive endings and the four conjugations determined by the different genitive endings are:

>

> -are = 1st conjugation; e.g.: amo, -are, -avi, -atum (I love)

> -ére = 2nd conjugation; e.g.: habeo, -ere, -bui, -bitum (I have)

> -ere = 3rd conjugation; e.g.: dico, -ere, dixi, dictum (I say)

> -ire = 4th conjugation; e.g.: audio, -ire, -ivi, -itum (I hear)

>

> Note that “â€"ereâ€�, which is short vowel, is different from “â€"éreâ€�, which is long vowel.

>

>

> II. QUESTION 2

>

> Use the Latin dictionary that we used last time, or, if you have to use an online Latin dictionary, use this one:

>

> http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

>

> Look into the dictionary and determine which conjugations the following 10 verbs belong to (10 x 1 pts).

>

> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their infinitive form (10 x 0.5 pts) and their perfect tense form (10 x 0.5 pts), and their supine/past participle (10 x 0.5 pts).

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> impero

> facio

> debeo

> veto

> edico

> laudo

> respondeo

> servio

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> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:

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> ago;

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> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is “ago, -ere, egi, actum�, so you will give the following data:

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> ago, 3rd conjugation (1pt); agere (0.5pt), egi (0.5pt), actum (0.5pt)

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> Comments: it’s 3rd conjugation because the infinitive (second dictionary form) “â€"ereâ€� ending shows it. If it were “â€"éreâ€� with long vowel “éâ€�, it would have been 2nd conjugation.

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> IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM

>

> One question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not to this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...> within 48 hours of posting. Please do *not* post answers to the list! Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong address will not be awarded with points.

>

> The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced together with the posting of the next questions.

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> YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS - EXTENDED DEADLINE FOR TOMORROW

> ----------------------------------------------------------

>

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> March 3rd - Day 3 of the Ludi Novi Romani â€" Question 1 of the Certamen Latinum

>

> I. INTRODUCTION 1 - Dictionary Forms of Nouns

>

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>

> Latin is a heavily inflected language, which means that Latin indicates

> grammatical information by changing the ending of the words. Nouns are

> grouped into 5 declensions (noun inflection groups), verbs can be

> classified into 4 conjugations (verb inflection groups). If we change a

> noun’s ending to express its grammatical role, we say we “decline� it.

> If we change a verb’s ending to express the person or the time (tense),

> we say we “conjugate� it. To determine which declension or conjugation

> group a verb belongs to, you have to look into a Latin dictionary.

>

>

>

> Today we will examine the dictionary forms of nouns only.

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> In the case of nouns, for example, “friend�, you will find:

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> amicus, -i, m.

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>

>

> This is 3 pieces of information:

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>

> (1)              amicus;

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> (2)              -i;

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> (3)              m.

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> (1) This means that the word “friend� in nominative (subject) case is

> “amicus�. Learn more about what nominative case means here, on our

> website:

>

>

> http://novaroma.org/nr/Nominative

>

>

>

> (2) The abbreviated form “-i� means that the word “friend� in genitive

> (possessive) case is “amici� (something of friend, or friend’s

> something), thus the original ending “-us� changes to “-i�. Learn more

> about what nominative case means here, on our website:

>

>

> http://novaroma.org/nr/Genitive

>

>

>

> Well, this is the most important point. This ending “â€"iâ€� determines that

> “amicus� belongs to the “second declension�, whose identifier is the

> genitive “â€"iâ€�. As we have mentioned, there are 5 declensions, and each

> one of these has a unique, declension-specific genitive ending. It’s

> important because the genitive ending determines the other inflections

> as well. The five types of genitive ending and the five declensions

> determined by the different genitive endings are:

>

>

>

> -ae = 1st declension, e.g.: Roma, -ae, f (Rome)

>

> -i = 2nd declension, eg.: amicus, -i, m (friend)

>

> -is = 3rd declension, e.g.: rex, regis, m (king)

>

> -ús = 4th declension, eg.: senatus, -ús, m (senate)

>

> -ei = 5th declension, eg. fides, -ei, f (loyalty)

>

>

>

> (3) The “m.� means that it is a masculine noun. In Latin, all nouns have

> three genders, they are masculine, (abbreviated as “m�), feminine

> (abbreviated as “f�), and neuter (abbreviated as “n�). English has a

> similar phenomenon when we use “he�, “she� or “it�. The

> new thing in this is that Latin uses these genders for things or

> abstract concepts, too, like in the exemples above, “loyalty� (fides,

> -ei, f) is

> feminine in Latin, the “senate� (senatus, -ús, m) is masculine, “Rome�

> (Roma, -ae, f) is, again,

> feminine.

>

>

>

> II. QUESTION 1

>

>

>

> Find a Latin dictionary. Attention! If you use an online dictionary, be

> aware that most of the online dictionaries are incomplete and do not

> give the

> full, correct dictionary forms of the Latin words. If you can use only

> online resources, please use one of the following Google Books

> digitalized Latin dictionary:

>

>

> http://books.google.com/books?id=k1ZFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

>

>

>

> Look into the dictionary and determine which declensions the following 10 nouns belong to (10 x 1 pts).

>

>

>

> Solve the abbreviations and spell out, write out the full forms of their

> possessive form (genitive) (10 x 0.5 pts) and their gender (10 x 0.1

> pts).

>

>

>

> forum

>

> consul

>

> gloria

>

> dignitas

>

> res

>

> pax

>

> nomen

>

> gladius

>

> legio

>

> porticus

>

>

> III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:

>

>

>

> praetor;

>

>

>

> - after looking into a dictionary, you will find its dictionary form is

> “praetor, -oris, m�, so you will give the following data:

>

>

>

> praetor, 3rd declension (1pt); praetoris (0.5pt), masculine (0.1pt)

>

>

>

> Comments: It’s 3rd declension, because in the abbreviated genitive form given as  “â€"orisâ€� for "praetoris", the genitive ending “-isâ€� determines that it must belong to the 3rd declension.

>

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83401 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-05
Subject: Re: Venator in absentia...
Aeternia Venatori sal:




Venii!! Glad to see your return.


Vale Optime,
Aeternia

On Saturday, March 5, 2011, Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator
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> been online, but avoiding anything, which would have taken thought and
> decision making into account. My job was also in question for a
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> I am much more like him than I openly admit: quiet, stolid, prone to
> look out for others before myself, prone to avoid letting others know
> I am hurting. Likely all parts of the reasons behind the bout I had
> with depression a few years back. It is a darkness always creeping
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83402 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 6 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 6 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be
posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time on 13
March 2764.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne


See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2


Here are the questions for 6 March 2764 - Day 6 of the ludi:


Question #16. The Comitia Centuriata elected Marius to 5 successive consulships
without asking the Senate to suspend what law of 180 BC which declared such a
practice illegal?

Question #17. Who were the two leaders of the Second Sicilian Slave War?

Question #18. Nova Roma, Inc. is a corporation in the United States of America.
On what date did the Senate of Nova Roma pass a constitutional amendment to
change the state of incorporation to Maine?

For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83403 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Munera Gladiatoria Semifinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 2764
Salvete omnes! This is Marcus Pompeius Caninus with the results of the
semifinals from the Flavian Amphitheater for the Munera Gladiatoria of the Ludi
Novi Romani for 2764!

The Gods have again blessed us with warm and refreshing spring weather. The
crowds streamed into the amphitheater and many vendors scrambling to keep up
with the demand, a sure sign that the economy is finally picking up some steam.
The seats in the shade were a bit cool but the athletes could not have asked for
better conditions.

The first match in this round pitted Sura, representing Ludus Albatus, against
Llancheu, representing Ludus Venetus. While physically very similar these
gladiatores could not have been more different in fighting styles. Sura, a
Thraex, spent most of the match dodging and maneuvering in a slow and deliberate
manner to wear down his opponent. Llacheu, a Dimachaerus, was fast on his feet
but firm and strong in his stance. The match almost ended just seconds after the
mappa fell and the cry of "Pugnate!" was heard. Llacheu moved very quickly and
lunged toward Sura in an attempt to evade the shield and land at least one of
his blades on Sura's upper back. But Sura managed to catch the right arm of
Llacheu, pushing him off-balance and deflecting the attack. The men then began a
few minutes of sparring as Llacheu danced around looking for right opportunity.
Chants from the crowd in support of Llacheu could be heard. Then Llacheu spung
with another quick attack but Sura landed a solid blow on his opponent with his
shield. Llacheu went crashing to the sand. Sura pinned Llacheu to the ground and
stood over him with his sword ready to dispatch him. But the Fates spared both
gladiatores from serious injury. With the win, Sura will fight in the finals
tomorrow afternoon.

The second match had Drest, a Murmillo from Ludus Praesinus, facing Attalus the
Briton, Secutor from Ludus Municius. As soon as the mappa fell, the Secutor
began pressing the fight on the Murmillo. The two men were very different in
stature, with Attalus almost half a foot shorter than Drest. But ultimately that
difference in size proved to be the winning edge in a closely contested match
that had Attalus chasing Drest all over the arena for a little more than ten
minutes. The strain of the fight began to show on both fighters but the match
ended when Drest cast his net at the 12 minute mark and Attalus was able to
evade both the net and the sword and landed several solid blows on Drest
ultimately taking him down. Both fighters were able to leave the arena without
significant injuries. Attalus will face Sura for the championship tomorrow.

In the consolation round, Llacheu faced Drest. The speed and double sword
fighting style of the Dimachaerus proved too much for the Murmillo. Llacheu took
third place and Drest took fourth place.

Thank you for your continued patronage of the Munera Gladiatoria. On behalf of
the Curule Aediles and the athletes, this is Marcus Pompeius Caninus bidding you
a good day from the Flavian Amphitheatre and we hope to see you here tomorrow
for the Finals!

Di vos incolumes custodiant!
M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83404 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: prid. Non. Mar.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est pridie Nones Martias; haec dies comitialis est.

"When the sixth sun climbs Olympus' slopes from ocean,
And takes his way through the sky behind winged horses,
All you who worship at the shrine of chaste Vesta,
Give thanks to her, and offer incense on the Trojan hearth.
To the countless titles Caesar chose to earn,
The honour of the High Priesthood was added.
Caesar's eternal godhead protects the eternal fire,
You may see the pledges of empire conjoined.
Gods of ancient Troy, worthiest prize for that Aeneas
Who carried you, your burden saving him from the enemy,
A priest of Aeneas' line touches your divine kindred:
Vesta in turn guard the life of your kin!
You fires, burn on, nursed by his sacred hand:
Live undying, our leader, and your flames, I pray." - Ovid, Fasti III

"What plain is not enriched with Latin blood, to bear witness with its
graves to our unholy strife.... What pool or stream has failed to
taste dismal war! What sea has Italian slaughter not discolored! What
coast knows not our blood!" - Horace, Odes and Epodes


"Tarquinius also built the Circus Maximus, which lies between the
Aventine and Palatine Hills, and was the first to erect covered seats
round it on scaffolding (for till then the spectators had stood), the
wooden stands being supported by beams. And dividing the places among
the thirty curiae, he assigned to each curia a particular section, so
that every spectator was seated in his proper place. This work also
was destined to become in time one of the most beautiful and most
admirable structures in Rome. For the Circus is three stades and a
half in length and four plethra in breadth. Round about it on the two
longer sides and one of the shorter sides a canal has been dug, ten
feet in depth and width, to receive water. Behind the canal are
erected porticos three stories high, of which the lowest story has
stone seats, gradually rising, as in the theatres, one above the
other, and the two upper stories wooden seats. The two longer
porticos are united into one and joined together by means of the
shorter one, which is crescent-shaped, so that all three form a single
portico like an amphitheatre, eight stades in circuit and capable of
holding 150,000 persons. The other of the shorter sides is left
uncovered and contains vaulted starting-places for the horses, which
are all opened by means of a single rope. On the outside of the
Circus there is another portico of one story which has shops in it and
habitations over them. In this portico there are entrances and ascents
for the spectators at every shop, so that the countless thousands of
people may enter and depart without inconvenience.

This king also undertook to construct the temple to Jupiter, Juno and
Minerva, in fulfilment of the vow he had made to these gods in his
last battle against the Sabines. Having, therefore, surrounded the
hill on which he proposed to build the temple with high retaining
walls in many places, since it required much preparation (for it was
neither easy of access nor level, but steep, and terminated in a sharp
peak), he filled in the space between the retaining walls and the
summit with great quantities of earth and, by levelling it, made the
place most suitable for receiving temples. But he was prevented by
death from laying the foundations of the temple; for he lived but four
years after the end of the war. Many years later, however, Tarquinius,
the second king after him, the one who was driven from the throne,
laid the founds of this structure and built the greater part of it.
Yet even he did not complete the work, but it was finished under the
annual magistrates who were consuls in the third year after his
expulsion. It is fitting to relate also the incidents that preceded
the building of it as they have been handed down by all the compilers
of Roman history. When Tarquinius was preparing to build the temple
he called the augurs together and ordered them first to consult the
auspices concerning the site itself, in order to learn what place in
the city was the most suitable to be consecrated and the most
acceptable to the gods themselves; and upon their indicating the hill
that commands the Forum, which was then called the Tarpeian, but now
the Capitoline Hill, he ordered them to consult the auspices once more
and declare in what part of the hill the foundations must be laid. But
this was not at all easy; for there were upon the hill many altars
both of the gods and of the lesser divinities not far apart from one
another, which would have to be moved to some other place and the
whole area given up to the sanctuary that was to be built to the gods.
The augurs thought proper to consult the auspices concerning each one
of the altars that were erected there, and if the gods were willing to
withdraw, then to move them elsewhere. The rest of the gods and lesser
divinities, then, gave them leave to move their altars elsewhere, but
Terminus and Juventas, although the augurs besought them with great
earnestness and importunity, could not be prevailed on and refused to
leave their places. Accordingly, their altars were included within the
circuit of the temples, and one of them now stands in the vestibule of
Minerva's shrine and the other in the shrine itself near the statue of
the goddess. From this circumstance the augurs concluded that no
occasion would ever cause the removal of the boundaries of the Romans'
city or impair its vigour; and both have proved true down to my day,
which is already the twenty-fourth generation." - Dionysius of
Halicarnassus 3.68-69

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83405 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
C. Equitius Cato consule omnibus in foro SPD

In the absence of areport from the tribunes, I am making the official report of the meeting of the Senate of Nova Roma from the month of Februarius.

The Senate of Nova Roma met in Februarius to consider the following item:

____________________________________________

Under the Constitution of Nova Roma, "The Senate shall have the power to issue
the Senatus consultum ultimum (the ultimate decree of the Senate). When in
effect, this decree will supersede all other governmental bodies and authorities
(with the exception of the dictator) and allow the Senate to invest the consuls
with absolute powers to deal with a specific situation, subject only to their
collegial veto and review by the Senate. Even under the authority of the Senatus
consultum ultimum, the consuls may only temporarily suspend this Constitution;
they may not enact any permanent changes hereto." (Const. N.R. V.E)

Under the authority of Section V.E of the Nova Roman Constitution the Senate of
Nova Roma issues the following senatus consultum ultimum.

1. No official of Nova Roma Inc. or the Republic of Nova Roma shall be at the
same time a founder or an official of competing organizations which would
include activities or services in the creation, development, and/or working of a
Republican Roman State. No member of Nova Roma Inc. or the Republic of Nova Roma
shall be allowed to use their her/his membership either to create, develop or
promote such competing organizations, or to act negatively
towards Nova Roma, its citizenry, its image and reputation, its organization and
actions, specifically to allow the creation, development or promotion of
competing organizations whose aim is the creation of a Roman Republican State.

2. Nova Roma Inc. is empowered to take every measure to prevent, avoid or
eliminate any one of the situations evoked in the article 1, including the
rights to refuse the admission of an applicant member, to remove a member of
her/his membership, to remove or deprive him/her, for a given time, of all or a
part of her/his rights of member and/or of her/his rights, powers, privileges
and honors
which (s)he may hold inside Nova Roma Inc. or the Republic of Nova Roma,
including Article II.B of the Constitution of Nova Roma.

3. For the purposes of this senatus consultum ultimum, the term "official" shall
be understood to designate every officer in a
representative position in the concerned corporation, as provided by its
incorporation Law, its by-laws, or its Board of Directors, including public
office or magistracy, civil or religious, central or provincial.

4. The Senate of Nova Roma may also identify, as necessary, any organizations or
individuals that may fall under the provisions of this senatus consultum ultumum
as defined by articles 1 and 3.

5. The consuls are given direct authority to oversee the application of this
senatus consultum ultimum, especially in coordinating the action of all Nova
Roma officials in charge of its application and with full authority to interpret
and apply its provisions wherever and whenever a question may arise. They shall
also ensure that information regarding this senatus consultum ultimum is made
available clearly and evidently on the appropriate pages of any Nova Roman
website.

6. This senatus consultum ultimum shall remain in force until pridie Kalendas
Ianuarias 2765 (December 31, 2011).

_______________________________


The Senate voted as follows:

UR = UTI ROGAS ("yes")
ANT = ANTIQUO ("no")

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus - UR
Gaius Equitius Cato - UR
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix - UR
Gaius Popillius Laenas - UR
Gnaeus Iulius Caesar - UR
Gaius Petronius Dexter - UR
Titus Iulius Sabinus - UR
Publius Memmius Albucius - UR
M. Cornelius Gualterus Graecus - UR
Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa - UR
Quintus Seutonius Paulinus - UR
Marcus Iulius Perusianus - UR
P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator - UR
Quintus Fabius Maximus - UR
Marcus Minucius Audens - UR
Aula Tullia Scholastica - ANT

The following senators did not vote:

D. Iunius Palladius Invictus
C. Flavius Diocletianus
M. Curiatius Complutensis
M. Arminius Maior
E. Curia Finnica
M. Lucretius Agricola

UTI ROGAS - 15
ANTIQUO - 1

The item has passed.



Valete bene,

Gaius Equitius Cato
Consul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83406 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: FW: [Explorator] explorator 13.46
FYI



To: explorator@yahoogroups.com
From: rogueclassicist@...
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:04:18 -0500
Subject: [Explorator] explorator 13.46






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explorator 13.46 March 6, 2011
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Editor's note: Most urls should be active for at least eight
hours from the time of publication.

For your computer's protection, Explorator is sent in plain text
and NEVER has attachments. Be suspicious of any Explorator which
arrives otherwise!!!

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Thanks to Arthur Shippee, Dave Sowdon,Diana Wright,
Dorothy Lobel King,Donna Hurst, Edward Rockstein, Rick Heli,
Hernan Astudillo, Bill Johnson, Kurt Theis, Trevor Ogden,
John McMahon, Barnea Selavan, Joseph Lauer, Mike Ruggeri,
Richard Campbell, Richard C. Griffiths, Bob Heuman, Joos Postma,
Rochelle Altman, and Ross W. Sargent for headses upses this week
(as always hoping I have left no one out).
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EARLY HUMANS
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Early humans apparently liked living in earthquake areas:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-03/uoy-oal030311.php
http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Ancient-ape-men-lived-near-quake-regions-20110304

In case you'd like to see a 3d Neanderthal walk around your desk:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-3d-neanderthal-screen.html
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2011/february/3d-neanderthal-comes-to-a-screen-near-you94923.html

Review of Schiff's *Cleopatra*:

http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/03/column_cleopatra_a_life_gives.html
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Okay ... the big news in Egypt this week was Zahi Hawass threatening to
resign in
the wake of looting and vandalism of ancient sites:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=45469
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/04/egypt.antiquities/
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/egypt-antiquities-chief-says-he-may-quit/
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/egyptian-antiquities-chief-resigns/
http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/9/40/6919/Heritage/Ancient-Egypt/Egyptian-antiquities-attacked-and-under-threat.aspx
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/egypt-s-antiquities-can-no-longer-be-protected-from-looting-1.347151
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypts-indiana-jones-to-quit-over-looting-of-ancient-sites-2232961.html
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/03/04/Resignation-threatened-over-Egypt-looting/UPI-80501299277306/
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700115388/Egypts-top-archaeologist-warns-of-looting.html

cf:
http://www.drhawass.com/blog/status-egyptian-antiquities-today-3-march-2011
http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/9/40/6837/Heritage/Ancient-Egypt/Egypts-archaeological-sites-are-still-being-looted.aspx
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-01/thieves-break-into-antiquities-warehouses-in-egypt-mena-reports.html

... then he did:
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/egyptian-antiquities-chief-resigns/?hp
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/world/middleeast/04antiquities.html
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2011/03/egypt_gets_reformist_pm_zahi_h.html
http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=c26f95ec8ca0fb2620b3a92af27bb943
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2011/03/04/top_egypt_archaeologist_says_hes_leaving_cabinet

... or maybe he didn't (I'm still not really sure and you can't really
tell when anything is happening from the dating of the stories):

http://www.artsjournal.com/culturegrrl/2011/03/cnn_report_casts_doubt_on_hawa.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/04/egypt.antiquities/

... but then this a.m. it seems he did:

http://www.drhawass.com/blog/why-dr-hawass-resigned
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/03/zahi-hawass-resigns/1

cf: (in case it didn't come up for you last week):

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/7/6138/Egypt/Crime/Accusation-against-minister-of-antiquities-referre.aspx

... and this a.m. we are seeing calls for him to stay on:

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/7069/Heritage/Ancient-Egypt/Hawass-loyalists-call-for-him-to-stay-on.aspx

Looting seems to still be a problem:

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE72502Q20110306

There was concern for antiquities in other places around the Arab world,
especially Libya:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110302/full/news.2011.132.html
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/04/6191311-antiquities-at-risk-in-arab-world
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-205_162-10006925.html
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=libyas-archaeology-threat

... although we were reading that sites in Libya were safe too:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/167709.html
http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=45340

Potential sites in Sidon:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=125574

Restoration of a Byzantine pottery "coffin" (really?):

http://www.english.globalarabnetwork.com/2011030210052/Related-news-from-Syria/archaeologists-byzantine-pottery-coffin-restored-in-syria.html

Interesting work with tekhelet:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/world/middleeast/28blue.html
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11059/1128631-82.stm?cmpid=nationworld.xml
http://scienceblogs.com/deanscorner/2011/02/how_a_snail_can_bridge_science.php
http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=210753

Did Yahweh have a wife?:

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-161906.html

Is Hagia Sophia threatened by humidity?:

http://eu.greekreporter.com/2011/02/26/japanese-scientists-claim-st-sophia-is-damaged-by-humidity/

Summary of a conference on the Sea Peoples:

http://gath.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/debating-the-sea-peoples-at-hu/

Nice feature on the Brooklyn Museum's radiocarbon testing of a copy of the
Book of the Dead:

http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/community/blogosphere/2011/03/03/radiocarbon-carbon-14-dating-of-book-of-the-dead-of-sobekmose/

Plans for a Huqoq Excavation Project:

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20110227/ARTICLES/102271031/

Some interesting/controversial 'metal books' from West London Synagogue:

http://www.thejc.com/judaism/judaism-features/46028/heavy-metal-secrets-a-mid-east-cave

Latest in the Mugrahbi Bridge saga:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=210531

Latest IAA conservation centre (Citta di Roma):

http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_Item_eng.asp?sec_id=25&subj_id=240&id=1701&module_id=#as

Egyptology News Blog:

http://egyptology.blogspot.com/

Egyptology Blog:

http://www.egyptologyblog.co.uk/

Dr Leen Ritmeyer's Blog:

http://blog.ritmeyer.com/

Paleojudaica:

http://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/

Persepolis Fortification Archives:

http://persepolistablets.blogspot.com/

Archaeologist at Large:

http://spaces.msn.com/members/ArchaeologyinEgypt/
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ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME (AND CLASSICS)
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Five long-lost friezes from the Parthenon have been rediscovered (maybe):

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/Long+lost+marble+pieces+found+Acropolis+walls/4382421/story.html
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/370240,long-lost-marble-friezes-acropolis.html
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1623660.php/Greek-archaeologists-discover-long-lost-marble-friezes-in-Acropolis
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jZT2yPxr-06fnvIDfNgpJmMHBwRA?docId=CNG.3c4dcf9b911963e30a1f3a73453a499f.361

Roman remains under the Stadio Flaminio:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/27/six-nations-2011-stadio-flaminio

A dig at Knightstone Campus which has found Roman remains has been
called off for some reason:

http://www.thewestonmercury.co.uk/news/business/college_pulls_plug_on_archaeology_study_1_817406

Heavy rains exposed a partial Roman inscription at a Wigton farm:

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/roman-find-on-cumbrian-farm-stuns-visiting-archaeologist-1.813523?referrerPath=news

A stone from Diocletian's tomb?:

http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/General_News/2011-02-21/17331/A_stone_from_Roman_emperor_Diocletian%B4s_tomb_found
cf: http://phdiva.blogspot.com/2011/02/porphyry-and-diocletians-tomb.html

The first installment of the Corpus Inscriptionum Iudaeae/Palestinae is out:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=45406
http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut/dovrut_search_eng.pl?mesge129897531432688760

I'm sure I'm not the only one who didn't know about C.S. Lewis' Aeneid
translation:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/rescued-from-the-bonfire-the-lost-work-of-c-s-lewis-2231809.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-lost-and-found-2231622.html

What Mary Beard was up to this week:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/mar/01/taught-latin-jamies-dream-school

.... besides pondering the toga:

http://timesonline.typepad.com/dons_life/2011/02/when-did-the-toga-go-out-of-fashion.html

What Lindsay Allason-Jones is up to:

http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2011/03/04/academic-helps-ensure-roman-film-is-correct-61634-28277082/

What Nicholas Rauh is up to:

http://thedartmouth.com/2011/02/23/news/prostitution

Walter Blanco has an interesting story:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/bronx/2011/03/03/2011-03-03_its_all_greek_to_lehman_lit_professor.html

Mary Beard on ancient public speaking:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/26/kings-speech-oscars-mary-beard

While everyone was wondering about Zahi Hawass' resignation, Saando Bondi
resigned as culture minister in Italy:

http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English/CultureAndMedia/Italy-Embattled-culture-minister-to-resign-over-lack-of-support-from-allies_311743978946.html

Remember that roof collapse at Santorini years ago? The trial is finally
starting:

http://ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_3834_03/03/2011_381339

Review of S. Price and P. Thonemann, *The Birth of Classical Europe*:

http://www.salon.com/books/history/?story=/books/feature/2011/03/03/the_birth_of_classical_europe_simon_price_peter_thonemann

Review of Brent MacLaine, *Athena Becomes a Swallow*:

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Books/1231658.html

Latest reviews from Scholia:

http://www.classics.ukzn.ac.za/reviews/

Latest reviews from BMCR:

http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/recent.html

Visit our blog:

http://rogueclassicism.com/
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EUROPE AND THE UK (+ Ireland)
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Bronze Age finds by a clumsy metal detectorist in Nottinghamshire:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/nottingham/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_9409000/9409647.stm

Bits of a gold ring found by some detectorists in Gosberton:

http://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/crime/courts/300_year_old_ring_found_in_gosberton_field_1_2464621

Archaeologists have found remains of Stirling Castle's 16th century
defenses:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-12620099

Pondering (via movie hype) why King John always gets bad press:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12603356

A rare King James Bible turns up in a Wiltshire village church:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12647043

Interesting 'loyalty map' from the English Civil War:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-english-civil-war.html

Might Henry VIII's blood group have been responsible for much of his
behaviour?:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-puzzle-henry-viii.html

Protection for an historical garden in Watford:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-12636325

More on attempts to recreate a 19th-century beer found in a shipwreck:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hYsYjzjBg4bjAOKe66FKwNNelY-A?docId=60fc00688f7c46faae0d84829aef8ef5

Archaeology in Europe Blog:

http://archaeology-in-europe.blogspot.com/

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ASIA AND THE SOUTH PACIFIC
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A 7000 years b.p. dog burial from Siberia:

http://news.discovery.com/animals/ancient-dog-burial-siberia-110228.html

A fourth-century 'haniwa' figurine from Nara Prefecture:

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/arts/news/20110225p2a00m0na009000c.html

Road workers came across a Ming-Dynasty-era mummy in Taizhou:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362957/700-year-old-mummy-road-workers-east-China-excellent-condition.html

... they found more too:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7310040.html

Interesting defleshed burials from the Himalayas (1500 years b.p.):

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110301-himalayas-caves-defleshed-skeletons-science-nepal-mustang/
http://www.myrepublica.com/portal/index.php?action=news_details&news_id=28666

A burial from Lake Cargelligo (Australia), although undated, is causing
comparisons with 'Mungo
Man':

http://www.areanews.com.au/news/local/news/general/ancient-human-remains-found/2094046.aspx?src=rss

Still wondering what to do with the Bamiyan Buddhas:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/8955298/impasse-over-bamiyan-buddhas-10-years-on/

... and it might be possible to reconstruct one of them:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/28/AR2011022803105_pf.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/28/buddha-statues-bamiyan-afghanistan

... and I think we mentioned evidence for their being coloured:

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110303/buddha-future-paris-conference-110305/

Feature on Jaffna:

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=33611

In the wake of the Christchurch earthquake ... a time capsule find:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gP1YF0IevMeVX4W8kvbzWb-myBXw?docId=CNG.9a526f024928171d5495752e60ea262c.2b1

East Asian Archaeology:

http://eastasiablog.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/east-asian-archaeology-cultural-heritage-%E2%80%93-2052010/

Southeast Asian Archaeology Newsblog:

http://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/

New Zealand Archaeology eNews:

http://www.nzarchaeology.org/netsubnews.htm
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NORTH AMERICA
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Interesting Paleoindian finds from the Channel Islands (California):

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-03/uoo-cig022411.php
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-california-islands-evidence-early-seafaring.html
http://www.livescience.com/13066-channel-island-seafood-buffet-uncovered.html
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/03/03/Calif-find-points-to-ancient-seafarers/UPI-17061299201259/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12646364
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/04/MNJ71I0NPH.DTL&tsp=1
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20110303/tsc-relics-of-early-american-seafaring-l-e123fef.html

They're excavating a 1000 years b.p. canoe found near Tampa Bay:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1362138/The-1-000-year-old-canoe-excavated-10-years-discovery-amateur-archaeologist.html?ITO=1490
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/pinellas/weedon-island-canoe-030111
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/historic-canoe-unearthed-from-weedon-island-preserve/1154538
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/mar/01/011956/archaeologists-excavate-weedon-island-prehistoric-/news-breaking/
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=177884&catid=250
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/archaeologists-plan-to-excavate-1000-year-old-canoe-from-weedon-island-muck/1154424

Probing Lake Huron for evidence of prehistoric caribou hunters:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Scientists+probe+Lake+Huron+signs+historic+caribou+hunters/4367823/story.html

A mysterious 17th century shipwreck washed ashore in North Carolina:

http://www.wesh.com/video/27060247/detail.html

This one's really interesting ... they've found some 100+ years b.p.
recordings
on a Klondike shipwreck:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2011/03/01/klondike-aj-goddard-music.html

Latest video from the Archaeology Channel is about a Springfield, Missouri
cave with
plenty of evidence of human habitation:

http://www.archaeologychannel.org/

Bones found last fall in a Florida back yard turn out to be 2400 years old:

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/05/human-bones-found-in-florida-yard-date-back-2-400-years/?icid=rtb|1|human-bones-found-in-florida-yard-date-back-2-400-years

Plans to exhume 'Leather Man':

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/nyregion/03towns.html

Remembering the Triangle factory fire:

http://tv.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/arts/television/28triangle.html

Feature on Lockwood de Forest (furniture designer):

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/arts/design/04antiques.html

Expectation of archaeological finds during road work in Gettysburg:

http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/news/article_4087fba4-46d8-11e0-b5d9-001cc4c03286.html

Rhodes College has acquired Shelby Foote's library and personal papers:

http://www.rhodes.edu/news/20373.asp

More on that 11 500 years b.p. child burial from Alaska:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/science/01obchild.html
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CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA
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Important prehistoric finds made from mother of pearl in an Espititu Santos
cave
in Baja (I can never figure out where to classify Baja):

http://www.inah.gob.mx/index.php/boletines/14-hallazgos/4898-descubren-anzuelos-de-primeros-pescadores-de-bcs

Possible cannons from the ships of Henry Morgan found in Panama:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=45419
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-cannons-panama-believed-sir-henry.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014403186_cannon06.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-sci-morgans-guns-20110301,0,558911.story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/01/cannons-could-have-belonged-to-henry-morgan

Olympic construction in Rio has exposed remains of a slave-trading port:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/04/archaeologists-find-slave-port

This dig-bloggish thing from the New York Times from that dig at Ceibal is
quickly
emerging as a good model for dig blogs, I think:

http://scientistatwork.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/in-maya-burials-unsettling-clues/?ref=science
http://scientistatwork.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/maya-axes-and-moles-under-the-pyramid/?partner=rss&emc=rss

More on those Wari burials from Peru's Cuzco province:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12576603
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/2003284/archaeologists_unearth_ancient_peruvian_tombs/index.html

Mike Ruggeri's Ancient Americas Breaking News:

http://web.mac.com/michaelruggeri

Ancient MesoAmerica News:

http://ancient-mesoamerica-news-updates.blogspot.com/
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OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST
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A possible drought at the end of the last ice age?:

http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/523322.html

Slideshow of psy-ops through the centuries:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-205_162-10006852-2.html

Pondering the need for historical accuracy in movies etc.:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2011/feb/28/artists-accurate-history-robin-hood

Was Hamlet actually Irish?:

http://news.discovery.com/history/hamlet-irish-shakespeare-110304.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/mar/03/great-dane-irish-hamlet
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-thousand-year-irish-hamlet-mystery.html

Is it time to 'let go' of the King James version of the Bible?:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/01/king-james-bible-language

... maybe in favour of a C.S. Lewis version:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/05/us/05beliefs.html
http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-161534.html

Purported Amelia Earhart bone DNA tests proved inconclusive:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/03/earhart.dna.research/index.html

Feature on the history of vaccination:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/health/01smallpox.html

Sciencey stuff to study materials of various types ... pretty much lost in
technical
terms:

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-multi-faceted-method-benefit-materials-batteries.html

Plans to resurrect Nalanda University:

http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20110225204643928

Using pages of old books to track atmospheric pollution:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110208101318.htm

... and the latest climate change study:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110224145649.htm

Reviewish sort of thing of Sheril Kirshenbaum, *The Science of Kissing*:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110303/us-fea-lifestyles-origins-of-kissing/

Reviewish sort of thing of a couple of scholarly editions of Virginia Woolf:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thoroughly-modern-virginia-2233417.html

Review of Rosalind Miles and Robin Cross, *Warrior Women*:

http://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/lifestyle/book_review_warrior_women_by_rosalind_miles_and_robin_cross_1_3121439

Review of some children's books with an historical bent:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/books/review/01childrens-review.html
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TOURISTY THINGS
================================================================
Abdera:

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite4_1_27/01/2011_375478
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BLOGS
================================================================
About.com Archaeology:

http://archaeology.about.com/

Archaeology Briefs:

http://archaeologybriefs.blogspot.com/

Taygete Atlantis excavations blogs aggregator:

http://planet.atlantides.org/taygete/

Time Machine:

http://heatherpringle.wordpress.com/
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CRIME BEAT
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Some Chinese antiquities were recovered from shipping containers
at Port Newark:

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1110ap_us_chinese_art_seized.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703300904576178804268710060.html
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/03/new.jersey.artifacts.seized/

... and some Afghanistan artifacts were also returned (coinciding with the
opening of
the exhibition at the BM):

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/03/02/black.market.afghan.artefacts/index.html

A Loyola University (Chicago) prof pleaded guilty to theft of some artifacts
from New Mexico:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-loyola-guilty-0302-20110301,0,7965373.story

Looting Matters:

http://lootingmatters.blogspot.com/

Illicit Cultural Property:

http://illicit-cultural-property.blogspot.com/
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NUMISMATICA
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The North Suffolk Hoard is expected to bring some big bucks to its finders:

http://www.coinweek.com/news/ancient-coins/roman-coins/windfall-expected-from-the-north-suffork-hoard-of-roman-silver-coins/

Latest eSylum newsletter:

http://www.coinbooks.org/club_nbs_esylum_v14n09.html

Ancient Coin Collecting:

http://ancientcoincollecting.blogspot.com/

Ancient Coins:

http://classicalcoins.blogspot.com/

Coin Link:

http://www.coinlink.com/News/
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EXHIBITIONS, AUCTIONS, AND MUSEUM-RELATED
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Pompeii:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20110304/ap_tr_ge/us_travel_brief_pompeii_exhibition_1
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=13054641
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pompeii-the-exhibit-life-and-death-in-the-shadow-of-vesuvius-world-premiere-opening-today-at-discovery-times-square-117394488.html
http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations/dispatches/post/2011/03/times-square-exhibit-shows-life---and-violent-death---in-pompeii/146199/1
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=13054334
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134254664
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/arts/design/04vesuvius.html
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2011/03/exhibit_looks_at_the_vibrant_l.html

Apollo From Pompeii:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703529004576160313492986394.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Antiquity Revived:

http://www.dallasartnews.com/2011/03/antiquity-revived-neoclassical-art-in-the-eighteenth-century-opens-at-the-museum-of-fine-arts-houston/

Photography and the Classical Nude:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/arts/the-way-of-all-flash/story-e6frg8n6-1226013616265

Secrets of the Silk Road:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/02/AR2011030206520.html
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/20110227_Art__The_mummies_at_the_Penn_Museum_say_a_lot_about_humanity_s_spread.html
http://thedp.com/article/panel-demystifies-mummies

Afghanistan: Crossroads of the Ancient World:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9c397504-45e3-11e0-acd8-00144feab49a.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/feb/27/afghanistan-crossroads-british-museum
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362168/British-Museum-display-millennia-old-looted-treasures-Afghanistan-recovered-London-art-dealer.html
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700114417/Recovered-Afghan-treasures-visit-British-Museum.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110304/ap_en_ot/us_pompeii_exhibition_4
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/reviews/afghanistan-crossroads-of-the-ancient-world-british-museum-london-2233415.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-reviews/8361958/Afghanistan-at-British-Museum-Seven-magazine-review.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703933404576170561948637524.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

cf: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12599726

Oetzi:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110228/sc_afp/italyaustriaarchaeologyoetzi_20110228172107
http://www.theage.com.au/world/the-new-iceman-cometh-20110301-1bd4s.html
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-iceman-bolzano-museum.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12599162

Tibetan Art:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/nyregion/27spotnj.html

Germany says it has no plans to return a sphinx to Turkey:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=4&article_id=125354

... or does it?:

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1623973.php/Merkel-aide-hints-at-return-of-Sphinx-of-Hattusa-to-Turkey

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83407 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Roman Mythology Quiz Dies 6
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Here are the sixth set of questions for the mythology quiz.

Please remember to send the answers PRIVATELY (emphasizing not yelling btw)
with the subject header "Mythology Trivium" to MusesDream@... or
phonectically MusesDream ATsign gmail DOT com.


Again send them private e-mail.
Vesta (Dies 6)
1. Which auspicious tree is used in kindling Vestas� sacred fire?
2. Who was the Vestal Virgin who gave birth to Romulus & Remus?
3. What was the task that Vestal�s perform during Parilia?


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83408 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764: Featured Artist of the Day (C. Maria Caeca)
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.


Today's artist is again the revered Vestalis C. Maria Caeca, her hymns to
Vesta tell a beautiful story of dedication and love for the Goddess.

Please enjoy.

Vale Optime,
Aeternia




DEDICATION

I come to you, Great Vesta, as I am;

Pretending nothing: claim no merits

I do not possess: I bring you my virtues and

My faults: Knowing my unworthiness, yet

Knowing also that, within my heart, I can find

And have always found your bright, steady flame:

I do not know what my ancient sisters felt, or brought

Of themselves to lay before you: I only know

That what I have of love, and will, and purpose

I offer you, and can only hope that you, in your

Wisdom find them, and this, your servant, worthy.

C. Maria Caeca © 2764


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Offering to Vesta

Your eternal fire

Shields against oblivion

Holds chaos at bay,

Guards against danger,

Answers fear with steady brilliance.

With open heart, I extend my hands

Laying the fruits of my sorrow before you,

Pouring out the wine of my tears,

A storm wrenched leaf trembling on the brink.

Your gentle presence surrounds me,

Reaches into my center, holding me fast,

A cloak enfolding me, warm and safe

Against the splintering cold.

You accept my meager gifts, and to my wonder

Transform them into radiance

That guides my steps through uncertainty

That illuminates and orders confusion,

That, by its presence, brings chaos into order.

With inexpressible gratitude

I take what you have bestowed

And carry it, quietly, into duty.

©2764/2011 C. Maria Caeca


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83409 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Calendar
Salvete,

I know that the ancient Romans would have lived with the
Roman Calendar from birth and its pulse and rhythm
would have been second nature. But not so much in Nova Roma.

"The calendar, even, for all its pervasiveness into all facets of public
life, is only scantily observed, and still more, is more often observed
incorrectly when it is observed."

"proper observation of the calendar are limitlessly negligent in this, as
evidenced by the fact that the most recent session of the Senate was held
over dies religiosi, and even in the Collegium Pontificum, discussions of
public matters were being held during that same time."

I know that the CP has control over the calendar but was there a Roman
calendar keeper, or other official that we can adopt to have our observations of
if more correct.

I know that all Nova Romans need to do a better job of this but until
it is second nature to us we may need some help in doing so.

The "keeper" could publish weekly notices of what can be done that week or
even for the next two week and magistrates could conduct official business accordingly.

Just an idea.

Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83410 From: M Lucretius Agricola Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Calendar (and another link)
This is quite accurate: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fasti/


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@...> wrote:
>
> Salve
>
> Here is another calendar http://www.clubs.psu.edu/up/aegsa/rome/romec.html
>
> Vale
>
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pompeia_minucia_tiberia
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:49 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Calendar (and another link)
>
>
> ---Salvete Domitius et Omnes;
>
> Thank you for the link, amice. I haven't checked this site for a
> calendar lately, but it is nonetheless worth an optic cruise for those
> interested in the Religio...
>
> www.religioromana.net
>
> Valete,
> Pompeia
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Domitius Constantinus Fuscus
> <dom.con.fus@f...> wrote:
> >
> > Ave Omnes
> >
> > A while ago Cordus said it would had been nice to have a calendar to
> check in
> > general to know the "status" of a day a bit in advance.
> >
> > for him, and for the ones who might had wanted it as well without
> asking... here
> > it is.
> >
> > http://www.societasviaromana.org/Collegium_Religionis/caljan.htm
> >
> > valete
> >
> > DCF
> > PF Constantinia
> > Aedilis Urbis
> > Curator of the Codex Juris Novae Romae Constantini
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83411 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Today we honor: VESTA
Cn. Lentulus pontifex Quiritibus sal.

During the 13 days of the Ludi Novi Romani, commemorating about the 13 years of Nova Roma, each day is dedicated to honour a deity important in the life of Nova Roma.

On
March 1, we contemplated on Mars and Concordia: on their exciting,
paradox and dynamic relationship and their effect on our Roman republic.
After the dies ater, Divine Queen Juno was the subject of our reverence.The next day, March 4, was dedicated to Minerva, the Heavenly Wisdom and Strategy. Yesterday we contempated about Neptunus who was honored by a prayer from none else than our consul C. Equitius.

"Vesta, favour me! I’ll open my lips now in your service,

If I’m indeed allowed to attend your sacred rites.

I was rapt in prayer: I felt the heavenly deity,

And the happy earth shone with radiant light.

Not that I saw you, goddess (away with poets’ lies!)

Nor were you to be looked on by any man:

But I knew what I’d not known, and the errors

I’d held to were corrected without instruction."
(Ovid; Fasti, Book VI)

The poet said so. I say so, too.

Today we worship Vesta, who is the Heart of our Community, and we think of and pray for our Vestal, C. Maria Caeca, who, in some way, is really a heart in our community, and because of her accident, she needs our prayers and good wishes.

Wonderful Vesta, most sacred and most chaste divinity! Heal the wounds of our beloved Vestal Maria Caeca. Heal the wounds of our res publica. You are the Caring itself. The most caring goddess, the most caring force of the Universe. We ask and beseech you, Sweet Vesta, strengthen the fire and the light in our hearts, to work more for Nova Roma, to love Nova Roma better, to be more loyal and faithful to Nova Roma, our People, the Res Publica Romana of Nova Roma.

Ovid continues:

"Vesta’s identified with Earth: in them both’s unsleeping fire:

Earth and the hearth are both symbols of home.

Realize that Vesta is nothing but living flame,

And you’ll see that no bodies are born from her.

She’s truly a virgin, who neither accepts seed

Nor yields it, and she loves virgin companions.

I foolishly thought for ages that there were statues

Of Vesta, later I learnt there were none beneath her dome:

An undying fire is concealed with the shrine,

But there’s no image of Vesta or of fire."

(Ovid; Fasti, Book VI)

Your daughter and servant, Maria Caeca exemplified your caring love and wonderful, encouraging fire to all of us. Vestal Maria worked always as a cohesive force in our community. How many consoled friends, how many strengthened hearts, how many re-smiling souls accompany the steps and deeds of your Vestal Maria! All of us are grateful to her, and we ask you, dearest Goddess, help now you Maria Caeca, make her recover as soon as possible, and make us follow her virtues and piety, make us all similar to Maria Caeca, so that we can serve Nova Roma with as much dedication and loyalty as she does, with as much benevolence and diligence as she did always.

Vesta, oh sweet lady of our families and homes! Make Nova Roma our spiritual home, make Nova Roma the dearest and most precious thing in our life! Make us love Nova Roma more than our lives, because Nova Roma is everything for you, it's your People, it's your Home Community, and it's the center of your worship in our days. You love Nova Roma above all. Please make us love you above everyone and everything.

"How worried the Senate was, when Vesta’s temple
Caught fire: and she was nearly buried by her own roof!
Holy fires blazed, fed by sinful fires,
Sacred and profane flames were merged.
The priestesses with streaming hair, wept in amazement:
Fear had robbed them of their bodily powers.
Metellus rushed into their midst, crying in a loud voice:
‘Run and help, there’s no use in weeping.
Seize fate’s pledges in your virgin hands:
They won’t survive by prayers, but by action.
Ah me! Do you hesitate?’ he said. He saw them,
Hesitating, sinking in terror to their knees.
He took up water, and holding his hands aloft, cried:
‘Forgive me, holy relics! A man enters where no man should.
If it’s wrong, let the punishment fall on me:
Let my life be the penalty, so Rome is free of harm.’
He spoke and entered. The goddess he carried away
Was saved by her priest’s devotion, and she approved.
Now sacred flames you shine brightly under Caesar’s rule:
The fire on the Ilian hearths is there, and will remain,
It won’t be said that under him any priestess disgraced
Her office, nor that she was buried alive in the earth.
So the unchaste die, being entombed in what they
Have violated: since divine Earth and Vesta are one."
(Ovid; Fasti, Book VI)


Meditate about Vesta, New Romans, invoke Her in the name of our Republic. She will hear the
gentle words, She will listen to the chaste prayers. Goddess Vesta,
protect our households, be propitious to our families!

What would you ask from Her, oh Citizen of Nova Roma?

Answer to this message, and tell everyone: what does VESTA mean to you?


Visit and read, and if you can, expand this article:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Vesta
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VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83412 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI 2764 - Triclinium chat
Salvete omnes

There had been a fire somewhere out in the subura, and we could see the smoke all through the day. The subura was a busy, noisy and crowded area that we tried to avoid. The phrase that summed it up for us was that it represented the thousand dangers of a savage city. But we felt sorry for the people whose homes would have been destroyed by the fire. They may only have been crude tenements, but they were homes to many Romans, and some families would spend a troubled night looking for somewhere safe to stay.

Some young boys had found a smouldering piece of wood, and were waving it in the air to make sparks. Their game was getting rather too violent, when a familiar figure, in a tall floppy hat, a cape and a long cane, commanded their attention. After chatting to them for a few moments, he blew gently on the end of his cane, and a huge arc of sparks swirled around him, and settled on the cane, where they sparkled and then disappeared. The boys cheered, and then, at a word from Merlinius, ran back home, forgetting their own game.

Merlinius turned round and recognised us, smiling a greeting. "Shall we go and find some refreshment?" he asked. "Well, come along then". We walked across the street to the tavern at the sign of the eagle, where Parnesius was waiting. "You should stop those tricks" he told Merlinius. People in Rome don't understand your ways. But be well, all of you, and come in and join us".

We went through to the back room, where the couches and the small table awaited us. Some of the men had been over to see the fire, and were talking about how fiercely it had burned in the tightly-packed buildings.

"Ah yes." said Merlinius, "Fire can be a dangerous thing when it is the master." "Fire is a creature that needs to be kept under control. It can be a friend, guarding us and our homes, giving us light and warmth and keeping all dangers away. But if you let it have its own way you will see how much power it has. Just compare that dreadful misfortune down in the subura with the docile and restrained fire behind us in the hearth. We come here because of the welcoming fire, but we run from the wild fires that destroy our houses. Yet they are all simply fires"

"Is that like the eternal flame of Vesta, then?" one asked. "Indeed it is", said Merlinius, and we immediately knew that we were in for the evening's tale. The drinks were brought over, the Falernian wine that Merlinius liked, and he began his story.

"Long, long ago, before Rome, on Mount Olympus, which is in Greece, lived the goddess we call Vesta. She was the daughter of Saturn, and sister to Iuppiter, the greatest and best. She was so fond of her single life that when Iuppiter became the king of the gods, and granted her whatever she wished, she said that what she really wanted was to be always a pure virgin, but that she would like to be honoured in every home. Iuppiter thought long and hard about how that could be made to happen. In the end he thought of a plan."

Merlinius paused for a deep draught at his wine. Its taste and aroma relaxed him, and he settled more comfortably on the couch before continuing.

"Iuppiter, greatest and best, had decided on a plan. He had seen how the wives and daughters of the families lit the fires each day, and tended them to make sure they kept burning safely. The fires were the centre of the home, and the hearth was the place everyone came back to with pleasure at the end of the day. The fire meant safety, warmth, love of the family, protection from the dangers of the night. It heated their food, and kept them warm in the bad weather. What better way to make his dear Vesta honoured in each home than to put her in charge of the fire. Every time the wife makes the fire, she will think of Vesta. Every time she cleans the hearth, she will bow down before Vesta. Every time she collects up the small scraps that lie near the hearth and around the table, she will place them in the flames as an offering to Vesta. And Iuppiter, the greatest and the best, thought that would be a good plan, so that is what he arranged. And so it was that every home came to honour Vesta as the goddess of the hearth who loved and protected their house."

Merlinius smiled to himself as he remembered how Iuppiter, greatest and best, had devised that plan, and made it happen so that all the people honoured Vesta every day. He took another sip of Falernian before continuing.

"Once the households were worshipping and honouring Vesta, he thought of the other part of her request, that she should be honoured by being a virgin forever. And he had another plan. Just as Vesta protected every hearth and every home, she would also protect Rome and every Roman, wherever in the wide world they might be. And so he made it happen that a special priesthood was formed, of priestesses whose task was to defend and serve the eternal flame that would burn forever in the heart of Rome. Because those who tended this fire needed to be pure and free from temptations that might lead them away from this sacred duty, he arranged it so that only pure girls from the very best families would be priestesses of Vesta, and that they would be given special privileges so that everyone would look up to them and respect them. No one would ever dare to insult a vestal, and everyone would envy their status. And as he decided, so it came to be".

Merlinius remembered how Vesta had smiled when Iuppiter told her his plans. She agreed that it was good, and that she would indeed feel honoured among women. He took another sip of wine to relish the memory of Vesta and her happiness. Then he continued.

"Before the days of Romulus and Remus a temple was built for her in Rome. This was a simple circular temple to begin with, and a sacred flame was kept continually burning there. The whole earth was believed to contain a perpetual fire, such as we see when mountains erupt into volcanoes when Vulcanus blows on his coals and hammers his metals. In the same sort of way that the sacred fires within the earth kept the earth alive, so the sacred fire in Rome kept Rome strong. The Romans believe that Vesta protects the safety and guards the fate of Rome, not only here in the city, but in all the lands that answer to Rome. That is why the sacred flame is guarded and tended by virgins from the first and most honoured households of Rome".

"What?" said one, "even in the furthest corners of the world of Rome?" "Oh yes, said Merlinius, wherever Rome holds her sway, wherever the Eagles march, wherever anyone who calls themselves a Roman lives, they honour Vesta whenever they light a fire and thank her for her protection. Even in the lowliest cottage, the mother of the family will carefully gather up scraps and put them in the fire as an offering to Vesta for watching over her family and guarding them from danger. She learned this from her mother, and passes that knowledge on to her daughters, so that Rome and Romans will always be safe and strong, wherever in the world they happen to be." Merlinius paused to take a sip of wine, and one asked "What would happen if the flame went out?"

"Well", said Merlinius "people believe that if the flame is extinguished, the most terrible misfortune will happen to Rome. Whenever Rome is threatened, those who defend her safety are made more bold by their determination to guard the vestals and their eternal flame. Some of the most heroic acts in Rome's history have come about by those determined to save the sacred fire of Vesta. That was Vesta's side of the bargain, and she has never forgotten it."

And then, looking over his shoulder, he checked that their own fire still burned brightly. We all gazed into the flames, and felt the strength with which they warmed and protected us, and we knew that we would soon be back to enjoy the hiss and crackle from the logs, and the friendship that we all knew there. "Let's remember all the Vestals", said Merlinius. "Especially those close to us in New Rome.

"Come on", said Parnesius, "let's go and check that the fires of the night watch are burning brightly. My men should also be caring for their watch fires." And off they went into the night.

Valete omnes

Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83413 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Nundinal Calendar I: pr. Non. Mar. to pr. Id. Mar.
Q Caecilius Metellus pontifex Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit.

Saluete, Quirites.

What follows is the calendar for the first full nundinum of the current
sacral year, starting 06 March 2011 through 14 March 2011. It is my
sincere hope that, by posting this throughout the year, we can come to a
more accurate, more appropriate observance of the calendar of our ancestors.

As always, I shall be glad to answer whatever questions may be had. I
am not as diligent in watching mailing lists as I once was, so to ensure
I receive your questions, please send them to me privately.

The first nundinum of the year consists of the following nine days:

- 06 March 2011 (pridie Non. Mar.): the day is comitialis, but should be
observed as fastus (note I).
- 07 March 2011 (Non. Mar.): the day is fastus.
- 08 March 2011 (a.d. VIII Id. Mar.): the day is fastus, and is a dies ater.
- 09 March 2011 (a.d. VII Id. Mar.): the day is comitialis. This day is
particularly designated for the procession of the ancilla of Mars (note II).
- 10 March 2011 (a.d. VI Id. Mar.): the day is comitialis.
- 11 March 2011 (a.d. V Id. Mar.): the day is comitialis.
- 12 March 2011 (a.d. IV Id. Mar.): the day is comitialis.
- 13 March 2011 (a.d. III Id. Mar.): the day is endotercisus.
- 14 March 2011 (pr. Id. Mar.): the day is nefastus publicus; on this
day, the Equirria are observed.

On all these days, the Feriae Marti are continued, having begun on the
Kalends of the month, and continuing through the 24th. These days are
all dies religiosi (also called 'uitiosi'), very similar to dies atri.

NOTES

I. Nova Roma observes the calendrical changes of the Lex Hortensia of
467 AUC, making the days on which the nundina fall dies fasti, except
when the day is naturally nefastus publicus. See also the Decretum
Pontificum de Calendario Perpetuo, as passed by the Collegium Pontificum
of Nova Roma.

II. The procession of the ancilla took place throughout the month; this
day is one of three specifically noted as such in the calendars of
Antiquity. cf. W. Warde Fowler, "The Roman Festivals of the Period of
the Republic", pp. 38-43, and specifically for this day, pp. 43-44.

Di Romanis faueant.

--
Quintus Caecilius Metellus
Blog: http://a-pious-year.blogspot.com/
Current Reading / Library: http://www.goodreads.com/metellus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83414 From: Publius Memmius Albucius Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - applic
EDICTUM CENSORIUM DE T. FLAVII AQUILAE NEGATA CIVITATE
(censorial edict on the reject of the citizenship of T. Flavius Aquila)


In view of lex Minucia Moravia de civitate eiuranda (a.d. III Nonas Maias, 2759 auc) which :
- authorizes the automatic reinstatement of a citizen who has previously resigned, at the sole condition of a �waiting period� of 90 days ;
- obliges Nova Roma to restore the reinstated citizen in �any titles, honors and/or effects of past public offices (including century points) that he or she may have held at the time that citizenship was either suspended or resigned�


Considering the resignation laid by T. Flavius Aquila on a.d. III Nonas Martias 2763 (March 5, 2010) ;


Considering that, at this time, T. Flavius Aquila was a sitting aedilis curulis, the governor of a Novaroman province, and the assistant of two high magistrates, and therefore an �official of the Republic of Nova Roma� in the meaning of the above-mentioned senatus consultum ultimum ;


Considering the request sent by the same citizen to the censors of Nova Roma on a.d. V Idus Dec. 2763 (Dec. 9, 2010), asking his reinstatement in citizenship ;


Considering that the reinstatement of T. Flavius Aquila was to be recorded, in the framework on the then applicable laws of Nova Roma, for next a.d. VII Idus 2764, after the completion of the �waiting period� of 90 days ;


In view of the senatus consultum ultimum issued by the Senate of Nova Roma on a.d. IV Kal. Martias 2764 auc (Feb. 26, 2011) which :
- forbids that an �official of Nova Roma Inc. or (of) the Republic of Nova Roma shall be at the same time a founder or an official of competing organizations which would include activities or services in the creation, development, and/or working of a Republican Roman State�
- authorizes Nova Roma to �take every measure to prevent, avoid or eliminate any one of the situations evoked in the article 1, including the rights to refuse the admission of an applicant member �;
- shall remain in force until next pridie Kalendas Ianuarias 2765 (December 31, 2011), and will, therefore, replace, during this period, every contrary constitutional or legal provision ;
- thus replaces, in its provisions relative to the reinstatement of previous citizens of Nova Roma, the provisions of lex Minucia Moravia ;
- therefore authorizes the censors, who have, for Nova Roma (inc.), the power to manage the entries and end of citizenship, to refuse the reinstatement of a previous citizen, even if this person was inside its 90 days waiting period and close to its end.


Considering that the evidence has been given that T. Flavius Aquila holds the official position of �praetor urbanus� and �senator� in the non-profit making organization called �Res Publica Romana� ;


Considering that such positions are clearly the ones aimed by the senatus consultum ultimum a.d. IV Kal. Martias 2764 auc, as �official of competing organizations which would include activities or services in the creation, development, and/or working of a Republican Roman State� ;


Considering in effect that �Res Publica Romana�, created by former members of Nova Roma and which is organized as a Republican Roman State, is objectively, and whatever the real intents of its founder, a �competing organization� for Nova Roma, specially in the fact that there cannot be, beside Nova Roma which claims to be the (only) heir of the Ancient Rome, another non-profit organization which, worldwide, claims to reenact and personify the State of the Ancient Rome.


Censors Iulius and Memmius edict jointly:

Article 1
The reinstatement in citizenship of T. Flavius Aquila (Nova Roma id. Number 10597) is rejected.

Article 2
Every Novaroman officer and her/his department must, as far as they are concerned, enforce the present edict, which will be published in the Tabularium Novae Romae and in Nova Roma relevant internet 'discussion' lists, as well as notified to T. Flavius Aquila.


Datum sub manibus nostris pridie nonas Martias MMDCCLXIV a.u.c, P. Ullerio C. Equitio coss.
Given under our hands this the 6 th day of March 2764 a.u.c, in the consulship of P. Ullerius and C. Equitius.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83415 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Certamen Latinum #4
SALVETE, QUIRITES!

More competitors are needed! Enter the race. YESTERDAY'S QUESTIONS ARE STILL FREE TO ANSWER AND SEND UNTIL TOMORROW NIGHT.

Participate. It's not a problem if you can't answer all questions! The Latin Contest is there for fun, and for
learning. "Winning" is just a side effect of them, but if you win, you will do GET A PRICE.  But if you answer 2-3
questions from all, that's totally fine. When answering, I'll send you
the corrections, and this way you will be informed if you managed to do
it well. It gives you some Latin exercise, and a bit reflection to where
are you at Latin. So I encourage EVERYONE, participate in these Quizzes. Not for winning,
and not worrying if you can answer all days or can't. When you have a
few time, answer questions, and you'll get corrected, and you learned
something, like in school. This is why we are here in Nova Roma.
Constant learning. This is the most
important thing what NR can provide you with.

Come out from your caves, shy
Romans. Come on, show you can do it. It's your language! :)

RANKINGS - PART TIME RESULTS

1st - P. Constantinus Placidus - 100 pts
2nd - M. Pompeius Caninus - 97 pts
3rd - M. Martianius Lupus - 40 pts
4th - V. Valerius Volusus - 39 pts

Don't worry! You can be first and winner even if you enter the race today! Next questions will be worth huge amounts of points, so you can leave behind those who are now taking the lead ;)


TODAY'S QUESTION:
       

March 6th - Day 6 of the Ludi Novi Romani – Question 4 of the Certamen Latinum

I. INTRODUCTION 4 - Declining Nouns in the Dative and Ablative Cases

We have so far discussed the dictionary forms of the Latin
nouns and verbs. Yesterday we tried out how to decline nouns in the nominative, accusative and genitive cases, both in singular and plural. We continue our tasting the declensions with declining nouns today in the remaining two cases, dative, and ablative.

Please review the information about how to determine which
declension a noun belongs to, following this link:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV/Certamen_Latinum

We continue learning how to change the endings of the Latin nouns pertaining to different declensions, in the dative and ablative cases.

The indirect object expresses the recipient of an action, line in the following sentence: I give a book to Hortensius - where "to Hortensius" is the indirect object. In Latin, the indirect object form of a noun is called the 'dative case'. Learn more here:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Dative

The adverbial form of a noun is called the
'ablative case' in Latin. The ablative can express time, manner, place, cause and similar adverbials. Check this out, on our website:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Ablative

II. QUESTION 4

Put
the following nouns into the
*singular* and *plural* *dative* and *ablative* cases
(10 x 4pts), using our website as your guide to how to decline the
nouns. Use these same links I have given above:
http://novaroma.org/nr/Dative
http://novaroma.org/nr/Ablative

Be careful, and read ALL information on the pages!

pietas, -atis, f = goodness, piety
telephonum, -i, n = phone
consulatus, -ús, m = consulship
deus, -i, m = god
gens, gentis, f = clan
concordia, -ae, f = agreement
ius, iuris, n = right
dies, -éí, mf = day
lex, legis, f = law
bicyclum, -i, n = bicycle

III. AN EXAMPLE HOW TO DO IT:

res, -ei, f = thing;

-
after analyzing this dictionary form, you see that its genitive
abbreviated is "-ei", which means that its
genitive form written out is: "rei". The genitive ending "-ei" marks
the Fifth Declension. Therefore you go to the website, and search for
the respective dative and ablative forms that are
needed. You will find them and you can give the following forms:

SINGULAR
dative = rei
ablative = re
PLURAL
dative = rebus
ablative = rebus

IV. RULES OF THE CERTAMEN LATINUM

One
question a day will be posted, participants must send their answers not
to this e-mail address but to  <cnaeus_cornelius@...>
within 48 hours of posting. Please do *not* post answers to the list!
Answers posted publicly or posted to the wrong address will not be
awarded with points.

The correct answers of the previous day and interim results will be announced together with the posting of the next questions.






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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83416 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Iulia s.d

Et incipit.
"Virtutem primam esse puto compescere linguam:Proximus ille deo est, qui scit ratione tacere." Disticha Catonis Liber I:3

Valete optime,

Julia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83417 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Latin Contest Thoughts
Iulia Lentulo S.P.D.

Gratias, I shall answer questions as time permits!

Julia



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:
>
> Cn. Lentulus Iuliae Aquilae s. d.
>
> Answer to the personal problem: it's no problem if you can't answer all questions! The Latin Contest, as well as the other Certamina (Contests), are there for fun, and for learning. "Winning" is just a side effect of them. If you answer 2-3 questions from all, that's totally fine. When answering, I'll send you the corrections, and this way you will be informed if you managed to do it well. It gives you some Latin exercise, and a bit reflection to where are you at Latin.
>
> So I encourage EVERYONE, participate in these Quizzes. Not for winning, and not worrying if you can answer all days or can't. When you have a few time, answer questions, and you'll get corrected, and you learned something, like in school. This is why we are here in Nova Roma. Constant learning. As our pontifex maximus would say, this is the most important thing what NR can provide you with.
>
> And to answer your second point: I used only two apices in that post of mine, so I don't think it's the apices which caused problem. I wrote the text in Rich Text doc, so maybe that. But I see others could help you!
>
> VALE!
> Lentulus
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83418 From: publiusalbucius Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Salve Aquila,

I think the "major virtue" is not to "hold one's tongue", as recommends this monotheist author of 3rd-4th century AD (no relation with M. Porcius Cato's gens), which uses "deus" at the singular - and was not, therefore, a cultor of our Religio Romana - but to respect our virtues, to be honest and sincere with our commitments, and to respect our Republic and our own oaths.

Vale sincerely,


Albucius csr


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> Iulia s.d
>
> Et incipit.
> "Virtutem primam esse puto compescere linguam:Proximus ille deo est, qui scit ratione tacere." Disticha Catonis Liber I:3
>
> Valete optime,
>
> Julia
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83419 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Certamen Historicum - Questions for Day 7 of Ludi Novi Romani 2764
M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD:

It's Day 7 of the Ludi Novi Romani for 2764 AUC!

We are running a Certamen Historicum for this edition of the games. We will be
posting three history questions per day. Please send your answers to me in a
private email at m.pompeius@... before 11:59 PM Rome Time on 13
March 2764.

Are you not sure what time 11:59 PM Rome is in your local time zone:

12:59 PM Hawaii
1:59 PM Anchorage
2:59 PM Los Angeles
3:59 PM Phoenix
4:59 PM Chicago
5:59 PM New York
10:59 PM London
11:59 PM Rome
12:59 AM Sofia/Tel Aviv
1:59 AM Moscow
7:59 AM Tokyo
9:59 AM Sydney/Melbourne


See the following page for the current time around the world:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2


Here are the questions for 7 March 2764 - Day 7 of the ludi:


Question #19. Which emperor sent a legion to Britain to gather sea-shells?

Question #20. What southernmost stronghold of Jugurtha was captured and
destroyed by Marius in 107 BC?

Question #21. Who were the founding members of the Nova Roma group in Madrid,
Spain?

For rules and more information, please see our Ludi page on the NR Wiki at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Novi_Romani/MMDCCLXIV

Optime valete!

M. Pompeius Caninus
Bethel, Alaska, USA
America Boreoccidentalis

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83420 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
Ave Albuci,

And?

Vale,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "publiusalbucius" <albucius_aoe@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Aquila,
>
> I think the "major virtue" is not to "hold one's tongue", as recommends this monotheist author of 3rd-4th century AD (no relation with M. Porcius Cato's gens), which uses "deus" at the singular - and was not, therefore, a cultor of our Religio Romana - but to respect our virtues, to be honest and sincere with our commitments, and to respect our Republic and our own oaths.
>
> Vale sincerely,
>
>
> Albucius csr
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "luciaiuliaaquila" <luciaiuliaaquila@> wrote:
> >
> > Iulia s.d
> >
> > Et incipit.
> > "Virtutem primam esse puto compescere linguam:Proximus ille deo est, qui scit ratione tacere." Disticha Catonis Liber I:3
> >
> > Valete optime,
> >
> > Julia
> >
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83421 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship -
Salvete

Roma locuta est. Causa finita est

Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus


To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: luciaiuliaaquila@...
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:56:34 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - application of the scu Feb. 26, 2011






Iulia s.d

Et incipit.
"Virtutem primam esse puto compescere linguam:Proximus ille deo est, qui scit ratione tacere." Disticha Catonis Liber I:3

Valete optime,

Julia





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83422 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Today we honor: VESTA
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Cn. Lentulo Pontifici Quiritibus S.P.D.


Beautiful dedication Amice, and I do have good news.


On this good day I received a phone call that Esteemed Vestalis has been
taken off the breathing machine, she stays in stable condition in the ICU.
I was told that Caeca sends her love to all of the citizens in NR and she
thanks us for the continued support.


This is a sign truly that Mater Vesta has heard our prayers.


Vale Optime,
Aeternia (who also wrote a prayer to Neptunus see the Musarum list)

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <
cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:

>
>
> Cn. Lentulus pontifex Quiritibus sal.
>
> During the 13 days of the Ludi Novi Romani, commemorating about the 13
> years of Nova Roma, each day is dedicated to honour a deity important in the
> life of Nova Roma.
>
> On
> March 1, we contemplated on Mars and Concordia: on their exciting,
> paradox and dynamic relationship and their effect on our Roman republic.
> After the dies ater, Divine Queen Juno was the subject of our reverence.The
> next day, March 4, was dedicated to Minerva, the Heavenly Wisdom and
> Strategy. Yesterday we contempated about Neptunus who was honored by a
> prayer from none else than our consul C. Equitius.
>
> "Vesta, favour me! I�ll open my lips now in your service,
>
> If I�m indeed allowed to attend your sacred rites.
>
> I was rapt in prayer: I felt the heavenly deity,
>
> And the happy earth shone with radiant light.
>
> Not that I saw you, goddess (away with poets� lies!)
>
> Nor were you to be looked on by any man:
>
> But I knew what I�d not known, and the errors
>
> I�d held to were corrected without instruction."
> (Ovid; Fasti, Book VI)
>
> The poet said so. I say so, too.
>
> Today we worship Vesta, who is the Heart of our Community, and we think of
> and pray for our Vestal, C. Maria Caeca, who, in some way, is really a heart
> in our community, and because of her accident, she needs our prayers and
> good wishes.
>
> Wonderful Vesta, most sacred and most chaste divinity! Heal the wounds of
> our beloved Vestal Maria Caeca. Heal the wounds of our res publica. You are
> the Caring itself. The most caring goddess, the most caring force of the
> Universe. We ask and beseech you, Sweet Vesta, strengthen the fire and the
> light in our hearts, to work more for Nova Roma, to love Nova Roma better,
> to be more loyal and faithful to Nova Roma, our People, the Res Publica
> Romana of Nova Roma.
>
> Ovid continues:
>
> "Vesta�s identified with Earth: in them both�s unsleeping fire:
>
> Earth and the hearth are both symbols of home.
>
> Realize that Vesta is nothing but living flame,
>
> And you�ll see that no bodies are born from her.
>
> She�s truly a virgin, who neither accepts seed
>
> Nor yields it, and she loves virgin companions.
>
> I foolishly thought for ages that there were statues
>
> Of Vesta, later I learnt there were none beneath her dome:
>
> An undying fire is concealed with the shrine,
>
> But there�s no image of Vesta or of fire."
>
> (Ovid; Fasti, Book VI)
>
> Your daughter and servant, Maria Caeca exemplified your caring love and
> wonderful, encouraging fire to all of us. Vestal Maria worked always as a
> cohesive force in our community. How many consoled friends, how many
> strengthened hearts, how many re-smiling souls accompany the steps and deeds
> of your Vestal Maria! All of us are grateful to her, and we ask you, dearest
> Goddess, help now you Maria Caeca, make her recover as soon as possible, and
> make us follow her virtues and piety, make us all similar to Maria Caeca, so
> that we can serve Nova Roma with as much dedication and loyalty as she does,
> with as much benevolence and diligence as she did always.
>
> Vesta, oh sweet lady of our families and homes! Make Nova Roma our
> spiritual home, make Nova Roma the dearest and most precious thing in our
> life! Make us love Nova Roma more than our lives, because Nova Roma is
> everything for you, it's your People, it's your Home Community, and it's the
> center of your worship in our days. You love Nova Roma above all. Please
> make us love you above everyone and everything.
>
> "How worried the Senate was, when Vesta�s temple
> Caught fire: and she was nearly buried by her own roof!
> Holy fires blazed, fed by sinful fires,
> Sacred and profane flames were merged.
> The priestesses with streaming hair, wept in amazement:
> Fear had robbed them of their bodily powers.
> Metellus rushed into their midst, crying in a loud voice:
> �Run and help, there�s no use in weeping.
> Seize fate�s pledges in your virgin hands:
> They won�t survive by prayers, but by action.
> Ah me! Do you hesitate?� he said. He saw them,
> Hesitating, sinking in terror to their knees.
> He took up water, and holding his hands aloft, cried:
> �Forgive me, holy relics! A man enters where no man should.
> If it�s wrong, let the punishment fall on me:
> Let my life be the penalty, so Rome is free of harm.�
> He spoke and entered. The goddess he carried away
> Was saved by her priest�s devotion, and she approved.
> Now sacred flames you shine brightly under Caesar�s rule:
> The fire on the Ilian hearths is there, and will remain,
> It won�t be said that under him any priestess disgraced
> Her office, nor that she was buried alive in the earth.
> So the unchaste die, being entombed in what they
> Have violated: since divine Earth and Vesta are one."
> (Ovid; Fasti, Book VI)
>
> Meditate about Vesta, New Romans, invoke Her in the name of our Republic.
> She will hear the
> gentle words, She will listen to the chaste prayers. Goddess Vesta,
> protect our households, be propitious to our families!
>
> What would you ask from Her, oh Citizen of Nova Roma?
>
> Answer to this message, and tell everyone: what does VESTA mean to you?
>
> Visit and read, and if you can, expand this article:
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/Vesta
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83423 From: George Vandewater Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Munera Gladiatoria Quarterfinal Results for Ludi Novi Romani 276
________________________________
From: Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:38:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] LUDI NOVI ROMANI - Latin Contest #2 (With part time
results)

 
Salve et Salvete Omnes:

Okay, I think the Magister and Magistra of the Latinitas Program could
probably use some cheerleading help.

Don't be shy Quirites come join in and lets not forget that, the individual
who wins the Certamen Latinum does win a prize.

Psst, Lentulus I think you forgot to mention the part about the loot! :P

Think you have some skills in the language, well show these two up! I have
faith in my fellow cives!

Vale et Valete,
Aeternia

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83424 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d


Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.
I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.
The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have made it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to RPR which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed at the individual and transgressions committed rather than something that "might happen." That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am still not so sure that the SCU was needed.
I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.

I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but as a citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision entrusted to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and myself, have put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including mine. I expect Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.

The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be an exception rather than a rule and I do not wish to see the citizens deprived of the voting process on key issues.
As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be virtuous, not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative and actual truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths but to carry them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect our Republic by asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It is the diversity of many peoples, of many varied experiences and philosophies that makes up our Respublica, that makes it colorful and interesting, that contributes to us moving forward – that and our love for Rome and the Respublica keeps many of us loyal and from giving up on her and embracing our virtues.

And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?

Vale, et valete,

Julia

Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83425 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship -
Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d

Roma locuta est. Causa finita est

St Augustine, another monotheist, twice in one day! What shall we ever do? Oh my!!! But when a man speaks wisdom it matters not his God.
In this case what does matter is the misquote. Actually Augustine received a message from Rome regarding a religious dispute, the condemnation of the teachings of Caelstius that negated the rising concept of "original sin" and the seemingly endless theology therein that Augustine staunchly defended. But "Roma locuta est (Rome has spoken)" became a popular paraphrase for "replies have come in [from the two consuls via the Holy See] (causa finita est)". He did say the "cause is finished" and although he did acquiesce to the final decision, a very important part of what he said was left out: "causa finita est" was followed by "Utinam aliquando finatur error (would that this error be finished sometime as well)" making it clear that although he shall comply, he had some ambivalence about the decision (that all the teachings should be condemned, teachings he quotes in his books).
The actual passage had been paraphrased from this: "Inde eitiam rescripta venerunt causa finite est. Utinam aliquando finatur error (From that place there came a reply [from the Apostolic See], the cause is finished. Would this error [the decision] be finished sometime as well.)"
Our Latinists could better translate as I probably made some errors as I am just a simple citizen.

Valete in Di Cordibus,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salvete
>
> Roma locuta est. Causa finita est
>
> Valete
>
> Ti. Galerius Paulinus
>
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83426 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Ave!

With the matter of the Tribunes and the passage of the SCU this part of the
Constitution comes to play:

V E.

The Senate shall have the power to issue the *Senatus consultum
ultimum*(the ultimate decree of the Senate). When in effect, this
decree will
supercede all other govermental bodies and authorities (with the exception
of the dictator) and allow the Senate to invest the consuls with absolute
powers to deal with a specific situation, subject only to their collegial
veto and review by the Senate. Even under the authority of the Senatus
consultum ultimum, the consuls may only temporarily suspend this
Constitution; they may not enact any permanent changes hereto.

Vale,

Sulla

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:52 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d
>
> Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.
> I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.
> The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions
> such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have
> made it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being
> disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to
> RPR which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed
> at the individual and transgressions committed rather than something that
> "might happen." That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am
> still not so sure that the SCU was needed.
> I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be
> reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will
> remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be
> seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.
>
> I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but
> as a citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision
> entrusted to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and
> myself, have put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including
> mine. I expect Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.
>
> The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a
> precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be
> an exception rather than a rule and I do not wish to see the citizens
> deprived of the voting process on key issues.
> As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be
> virtuous, not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative
> and actual truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths
> but to carry them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect
> our Republic by asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It
> is the diversity of many peoples, of many varied experiences and
> philosophies that makes up our Respublica, that makes it colorful and
> interesting, that contributes to us moving forward � that and our love for
> Rome and the Respublica keeps many of us loyal and from giving up on her and
> embracing our virtues.
>
> And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Julia
>
> Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis
>
>
>


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83427 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Calendar
C. Petronius Ti. Paulino s.p.d.,

About the calendar I noticed in many modern restauration of the ancient calendar two common errors.

First, in the leap year it is common to think that the VI bis Kal. Mart. follows the VI, so in many calendar put between the VI and the V. But as said by Macrobius this day was put between the Terminalia and the Regifugium, as the ancient month Intercalarius. In fact, its true place is between the VII and the VI. The true serie on each leap year is:

VII Kal. Martias Terminalia
VI bis Kal. Martias
VI Kal. Martias Regifugium
V Kal. Martias

Another thing forgotten in all reenacment calendar is that the Pontifex Maximus added 10 days to the Roman Year of 355 days and decreed these 10 days being Fasti.

Macrobius says what days was added:

In January from 29 days to 31, Caesar added 2 days Fasti:
29 and 30 January (IV and III kal. Feb.)

In April from 29 days to 30, Caesar added 1 day Fastus:
26 April (VI Kal. Mai.)

In June from 29 days to 30, Caesar added 1 day Fastus:
29 June (III Kal. Quint.)

In August/Sextilis from 29 to 31 days, Caesar added 2 days Fasti:
29 and 30 August (IV and III Kal. Sept.)

In September from 29 to 30, Caesar added 1 day Fastus:
29 September (III Kal. Oct.)

In November from 29 to 30 days, Caesar added 1 day Fastus:
29 November (III Kal. Dec.)

In December from 29 to 31, Caesar added 2 days Fasti:
29 and 30 December (IV and III Kal. Ian.)

Source of all this in Macrobius, Saturnalia I, XIV.

Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Nonis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83428 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Aeterna Nova Roma in hexameter By C. Petronius Dexter!
Ave Petroni!

Aeterna Nova Roma!!!!!
Inspirante et pulcherrima, bene facis.

Vale optime,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
> C. Petronius Dexter Quiritibus s.p.d.,
>
> > Notes:
> > Every Kalends is sacred to Juno.
>
> Yes, and these especially to Nova Roma. Today is her 13th birthday, so I sing these verses hexameters to her:
>
> Ad duodenos, Roma, annos, unum adde natalem,
> Et iam maesta fugent felices oscina Ludi,
> Te celebrentque Novi Romani, laudibus amplis,
> Etsi difficilis crudusque fuit prior annus.
> Roma, senescis et noua dum semperque uirescis.
> Nunc, Clione iuuante, cano uos, moenia celsa,
> Auersa a regno truculenti principis alto.
>
> Nomen, quod ciet inuidiam, omni splendeat orbe,
> O Nova Roma! Habeto linguamque docere Latinam
> Virtutes priscasque hodiernis gentibus, atque
> Antiqua indigetum Romanis sacra deorum.
>
> Resque uiris abs egregiis sit Publica ducta,
> Oblitis decoris nimii, ad morum proba pronis,
> Magnanimus sic decernat consulta Senatus,
> Augustissimus ut sit tibi ex omnibus annus.
>
> Optime valete.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Kalendis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83429 From: petronius_dexter Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
C. Petronius P. Memmio censori s.p.d.,

> EDICTUM CENSORIUM DE T. FLAVII AQUILAE NEGATA CIVITATE
> (censorial edict on the reject of the citizenship of T. Flavius Aquila)

The SCU, if I am not wrong, did not state about the citizenship but about the officials of Nova Roma. So, if T. Flavius Aquila is an official of the RPR he cannot become an official of Nova Roma, ok, but he may be a simple citizen of Nova Roma, unless this case is not covered by the SCU acting only about the officials of Nova Roma.

T. Flavius Aquila is not yet an official of Nova Roma and he only begged to be NR citizen.

Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
Nonis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83430 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Ave Sulla,

Gratias, but I was actually wondering why Cato was posting rather than the tribunes.

Vale bene,

Julia


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave!
>
> With the matter of the Tribunes and the passage of the SCU this part of the
> Constitution comes to play:
>
> V E.
>
> The Senate shall have the power to issue the *Senatus consultum
> ultimum*(the ultimate decree of the Senate). When in effect, this
> decree will
> supercede all other govermental bodies and authorities (with the exception
> of the dictator) and allow the Senate to invest the consuls with absolute
> powers to deal with a specific situation, subject only to their collegial
> veto and review by the Senate. Even under the authority of the Senatus
> consultum ultimum, the consuls may only temporarily suspend this
> Constitution; they may not enact any permanent changes hereto.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:52 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d
> >
> > Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.
> > I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.
> > The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions
> > such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have
> > made it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being
> > disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to
> > RPR which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed
> > at the individual and transgressions committed rather than something that
> > "might happen." That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am
> > still not so sure that the SCU was needed.
> > I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be
> > reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will
> > remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be
> > seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.
> >
> > I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but
> > as a citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision
> > entrusted to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and
> > myself, have put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including
> > mine. I expect Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.
> >
> > The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a
> > precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be
> > an exception rather than a rule and I do not wish to see the citizens
> > deprived of the voting process on key issues.
> > As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be
> > virtuous, not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative
> > and actual truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths
> > but to carry them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect
> > our Republic by asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It
> > is the diversity of many peoples, of many varied experiences and
> > philosophies that makes up our Respublica, that makes it colorful and
> > interesting, that contributes to us moving forward – that and our love for
> > Rome and the Respublica keeps many of us loyal and from giving up on her and
> > embracing our virtues.
> >
> > And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?
> >
> > Vale, et valete,
> >
> > Julia
> >
> > Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83431 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Salve Julia,

"And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?"

I am here. How may I help you citizen?

Vale

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
Tribune


To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: luciaiuliaaquila@...
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 03:52:33 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764







Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d

Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.
I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.
The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have made it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to RPR which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed at the individual and transgressions committed rather than something that "might happen." That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am still not so sure that the SCU was needed.
I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.

I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but as a citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision entrusted to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and myself, have put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including mine. I expect Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.

The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be an exception rather than a rule and I do not wish to see the citizens deprived of the voting process on key issues.
As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be virtuous, not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative and actual truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths but to carry them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect our Republic by asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It is the diversity of many peoples, of many varied experiences and philosophies that makes up our Respublica, that makes it colorful and interesting, that contributes to us moving forward � that and our love for Rome and the Respublica keeps many of us loyal and from giving up on her and embracing our virtues.

And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?

Vale, et valete,

Julia

Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83432 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Reject of T. Flavius Aquila's reinstatement for citizenship - ap
>
>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica C. Petronio Dextro quiritibus bonae voluntatis (nec
> aliis) S.P.D.
>
> C. Petronius P. Memmio censori s.p.d.,
>
>> > EDICTUM CENSORIUM DE T. FLAVII AQUILAE NEGATA CIVITATE
>> > (censorial edict on the reject of the citizenship of T. Flavius Aquila)
>
> The SCU, if I am not wrong, did not state about the citizenship but about the
> officials of Nova Roma. So, if T. Flavius Aquila is an official of the RPR he
> cannot become an official of Nova Roma, ok, but he may be a simple citizen of
> Nova Roma, unless this case is not covered by the SCU acting only about the
> officials of Nova Roma.
>
> T. Flavius Aquila is not yet an official of Nova Roma and he only begged to be
> NR citizen.
>
> ATS: Rectissime hoc decretum clavam factum iri qua non modo magistratus,
> sed etiam humiles, arceri exigi posse arbitrati sumus. Ut quaedam pontifex
> dixit, his diebus saepius ultimum sanximus.
>
> Optime vale.
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> Nonis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83433 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
>
>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Juliae Aquilae quiritibus bonae voluntatis (nec
> aliis) S.P.D.
>
>
> Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d
>
> Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.
> I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.
> The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions
> such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have made
> it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being
> disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to RPR
> which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed at the
> individual and transgressions committed rather than something that "might
> happen."
>
>
> ATS: Paranoia, xenophobia, and other illnesses are running rampant in
> certain quarters these days.
>
> That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am still not so sure
> that the SCU was needed.
>
> ATS: Well, you can guess why some thought it was.
>
>
> I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be
> reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will
> remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be
> seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.
>
> I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but as a
> citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision entrusted
> to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and myself, have
> put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including mine. I expect
> Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.
>
> The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a
> precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be
> an exception rather than a rule
>
>
> ATS: We managed to survive for what, ten or eleven years without a single
> SCU, but now they are being handed out like candy on Halloween.
>
>
> and I do not wish to see the citizens deprived of the voting process on key
> issues.
>
> ATS: And since there is no means of voting, no cista, the citizens have
> nothing to say about anything. The rigged elections have ensured that all
> magistrates wear the same political stripes; in turn, all others (except yours
> truly, and no doubt they are gunning for me) have been driven from the Senate,
> so everything they want will get railroaded through. Nothing happens about
> the urgent IT matter, for it suits some to ignore it, and claim (in keeping
> with that paranoia) that a good proposal involved fraud or what have you.
> Nothing happens about JSTOR, which would entice educated assidui, nothing
> happens except what seems good to the NR TEA party.
>
>
> As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be virtuous,
> not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative and actual
> truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths but to carry
> them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect our Republic by
> asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It is the diversity
> of many peoples, of many varied experiences and philosophies that makes up our
> Respublica, that makes it colorful and interesting, that contributes to us
> moving forward – that and our love for Rome and the Respublica keeps many of
> us loyal and from giving up on her and embracing our virtues.
>
> ATS: As you are no doubt aware, Julia, there are several here who think
> that NR should be an English-only, North American, B-school, wealthy male
> project. Word has it that they have plots to drive everyone else out, or at
> least shut them out of office and of the senate by levying exorbitant taxes
> above and beyond the basic ones, which in turn would be raised above the means
> of many, especially those in less-developed countries. This nonsense about
> other Roman-oriented groups, notably this fledgling one called (I believe) Res
> Publica Romana, is just one more means of keeping Europeans and others out,
> and even at the intake level we have prohibitions on Latinizations, a
> long-time practice, and a cohors full of scribae who know no language but
> English.
>
> And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?
>
> ATS: Well, Crassus is probably doing his homework for me; he likes to get
> it in before I open the gadget. ;-) Not sure about the others, but it is odd
> that there was no tribune report of the Senate proceedings. Of course once
> the agenda is posted, one may simply assume that everything will be approved
> at the end of the voting period; only I stand for what is right, and my one
> vote has no effect.
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Julia
>
> Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83434 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Cn. Lentulus Tulliae Scholasticae et Iuliae Aquilae s. p. d.


I share the concerns of these two finest ladies. Nova Roma should be inclusive, not exclusivist, especially these days, when more and more groups compete for the same Roman oriented people. The one that will win, it will be the one which is the more open, the more friendly, and the nicest place to stay.

I think the senate should have addressed the question and problem who the be THE BETTER, and not how to expel/exclude possible opponents.

Valete optime in fide rei publicae Novae Romanae!



--- Lun 7/3/11, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...> ha scritto:









 









>

>

>

> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Juliae Aquilae quiritibus bonae voluntatis (nec

> aliis) S.P.D.

>

>

> Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d

>

> Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.

> I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.

> The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions

> such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have made

> it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being

> disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to RPR

> which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed at the

> individual and transgressions committed rather than something that "might

> happen."

>

>

> ATS: Paranoia, xenophobia, and other illnesses are running rampant in

> certain quarters these days.

>

> That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am still not so sure

> that the SCU was needed.

>

> ATS: Well, you can guess why some thought it was.

>

>

> I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be

> reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will

> remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be

> seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.

>

> I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but as a

> citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision entrusted

> to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and myself, have

> put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including mine. I expect

> Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.

>

> The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a

> precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be

> an exception rather than a rule

>

>

> ATS: We managed to survive for what, ten or eleven years without a single

> SCU, but now they are being handed out like candy on Halloween.

>

>

> and I do not wish to see the citizens deprived of the voting process on key

> issues.

>

> ATS: And since there is no means of voting, no cista, the citizens have

> nothing to say about anything. The rigged elections have ensured that all

> magistrates wear the same political stripes; in turn, all others (except yours

> truly, and no doubt they are gunning for me) have been driven from the Senate,

> so everything they want will get railroaded through. Nothing happens about

> the urgent IT matter, for it suits some to ignore it, and claim (in keeping

> with that paranoia) that a good proposal involved fraud or what have you.

> Nothing happens about JSTOR, which would entice educated assidui, nothing

> happens except what seems good to the NR TEA party.

>

>

> As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be virtuous,

> not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative and actual

> truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths but to carry

> them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect our Republic by

> asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It is the diversity

> of many peoples, of many varied experiences and philosophies that makes up our

> Respublica, that makes it colorful and interesting, that contributes to us

> moving forward – that and our love for Rome and the Respublica keeps many of

> us loyal and from giving up on her and embracing our virtues.

>

> ATS: As you are no doubt aware, Julia, there are several here who think

> that NR should be an English-only, North American, B-school, wealthy male

> project. Word has it that they have plots to drive everyone else out, or at

> least shut them out of office and of the senate by levying exorbitant taxes

> above and beyond the basic ones, which in turn would be raised above the means

> of many, especially those in less-developed countries. This nonsense about

> other Roman-oriented groups, notably this fledgling one called (I believe) Res

> Publica Romana, is just one more means of keeping Europeans and others out,

> and even at the intake level we have prohibitions on Latinizations, a

> long-time practice, and a cohors full of scribae who know no language but

> English.

>

> And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?

>

> ATS: Well, Crassus is probably doing his homework for me; he likes to get

> it in before I open the gadget. ;-) Not sure about the others, but it is odd

> that there was no tribune report of the Senate proceedings. Of course once

> the agenda is posted, one may simply assume that everything will be approved

> at the end of the voting period; only I stand for what is right, and my one

> vote has no effect.

>

> Vale, et valete,

>

> Julia

>

> Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis

>

> Vale, et valete.

>

>

>



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83435 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: T. Flavius Aquila' Righ to Citizenship
Cn. Lentulus C. Petronio et Tulliae Scolasticae et Iuliae Aquilae ac P. Memmio censori s. d.

I agree with Petronius, I agree with Scholastica, I agree with Iulia and I agree with the rest of those who protest against this censorial edict. T. Flavius Aquila is *not* an official of Nova Roma and he only begged to be a citizen of Nova Roma. This is not what the SCU wanted to impede.

I think Memmius' colleage, censor Sabinus or the tribunes of the plebs should veto this censorial edict - if it's legally possible.

Valete!
Lentulus


--- Lun 7/3/11, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...> ha scritto:









 









C. Petronius P. Memmio censori s.p.d.,



> EDICTUM CENSORIUM DE T. FLAVII AQUILAE NEGATA CIVITATE

> (censorial edict on the reject of the citizenship of T. Flavius Aquila)



The SCU, if I am not wrong, did not state about the citizenship but about the officials of Nova Roma. So, if T. Flavius Aquila is an official of the RPR he cannot become an official of Nova Roma, ok, but he may be a simple citizen of Nova Roma, unless this case is not covered by the SCU acting only about the officials of Nova Roma.



T. Flavius Aquila is not yet an official of Nova Roma and he only begged to be NR citizen.



Optime vale.



C. Petronius Dexter

Arcoiali scribebat

Nonis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.

























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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83436 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: NONIS MARTIIS
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est Nonis Martiis; hic dies fastus est.

"The Nones of March are free of meetings, because it's thought
The temple of Veiovis was consecrated today before the two groves.
When Romulus ringed his grove with a high stone wall,
He said: `Whoever takes refuge here, they will be safe.'
O from how tenuous a beginning the Romans sprang!
How little that crowd of old are to be envied!
But so the strange name won't confuse you, unknowingly,
Learn who this god is, and why he is so called.
He is the young Jupiter: see his youthful face:
Then see his hand, holding no lightening bolt.
Jove carried his lightning bolts after the Giants dared
Their attempt on the heavens: at first he was unarmed.
Ossa blazed with his new fires, and Pelion higher than Ossa,
And Olympus rooted to the solid earth.
A she-goat stands there too: they say the Cretan nymphs
Nursed the god: and she gave her milk to the infant Jove.
Now I'm called on to explain the name. Farmers call
Stunted grain vegrandia, and what's feeble vesca.
If that's the meaning, why should I not suspect
That the shrine of Veiovis is that of Little Jupiter?
Now when the stars glitter in the dark-blue sky,
Look up: you'll see the head of Gorgonian Pegasus.
It's said he leapt from the fecund neck of dead Medusa,
His mane drenched with her blood.
As he glided above the clouds, beneath the stars,
The sky was his earth, wings acted instead of feet,
And soon he champed indignantly on the fresh bit,
So that his light hoof created Helicon's Aonian spring.
Now he enjoys the sky, that his wings once sought,
And glitters there brightly with his fifteen stars." - Ovid, Fasti III

"Secondly, finding that many of the cities in Italy were very badly
governed, both by tyrannies and by oligarchies, he undertook to
welcome and attract to himself the fugitives from these cities, who
were very numerous, paying no regard either to their calamities or to
their fortunes, provided only they were free men. His purpose was to
increase the power of the Romans and to lessen that of their
neighbours; but he invented a specious pretext for his course, making
it appear that he was showing honour to a god. For he consecrated the
place between the Capitol and the citadel which is now called in the
language of the Romans "the space between the two groves," — a term
that was really descriptive at that time of the actual conditions, as
the place was shaded by thick woods on both sides where it joined the
hills, — and made it an asylum for suppliants. And built a temple
there, — but to what god or divinity he dedicated it I cannot say for
certain, — he engaged, under the colour of religion, to protect those
who fled to it from suffering any harm at the hands of their enemies;
and if they chose to remain with him, he promised them citizenship and
a share of the land he should take from the enemy. And people came
flocking thither from all parts, fleeing from their calamities at
home; nor had they afterwards any thought of removing to any other
place, but were held there by daily instances of his sociability and
kindness." - Dionysius of Halicarnassus 1.15.1-4

"Meantime the City was growing by the extension of its walls in
various directions an increase due rather to the anticipation of its
future population than to any present overcrowding. His next care was
to secure an addition to the population that the size of the City
might not be a source of weakness. It had been the ancient policy of
the founders of cities to get together a multitude of people of
obscure and low origin and then to spread the fiction that they were
the children of the soil. In accordance with this policy, Romulus
opened a place of refuge on the spot where, as you go down from the
Capitol, you find an enclosed space between two groves. A promiscuous
crowd of freemen and slaves, eager for change, fled thither from the
neighbouring states. This was the first accession of strength to the
nascent greatness of the city." - Livy, History of Rome 1.7

Veiovis (Vediovis) is one of the oldest of the Roman gods. He is a god
of healing, and was later associated with the Greek Asclepius. He was
mostly worshipped in Rome and Bovillae in Latium. On the Capitoline
Hill and on the Tiber Island temples were erected in his honor. In
spring, goats were sacrificed to avert plagues. Veiovis is portrayed
as a young man, holding a bunch of arrows (or lightning bolts) in his
hand, and is accompanied by a goat. He is probably based on the
Etruscan god Veive.

The Temple of Veiovis was only brought to light in 1939, during the
excavation underneath Piazza del Campidoglio for the creation of the
Gallery Junction. The parts of the building which make up the Palazzo
Senatorio are superimposed both over the temple and over the nearby
Tabularium, thereby managing to obscure the Roman building almost
completely and as a result saving it from destruction.

According to ancient sources, and based on the discovery, in the area
of the cella, of a marble statue used for religious purposes, it has
been possible to identify the divinity to whom this temple was
dedicated: Veiovis, the youthful God of the underworld who was the
ancient Italic version of Jupiter. Latin authors define its position
as being "inter duos lucos", that is to say between two sacred woods
situated on the two heights of the Capitoline Hill. In the same area
was also situated the Asylum, where, legend has it, Romulus extended
hospitality to fugitives from other parts of the Latium region, in
order to populate the new city which he founded.

Consecrated in 196 B.C. by Consul Lucius Furius Purpurio in the Battle
of Cremona during the war against the Boii Gauls, the temple was then
dedicated in 192 B.C. by Quintus Marcius Ralla.

Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83437 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Aeterna Nova Roma in hexameter By C. Petronius Dexter
Cn. Lentulus C. Petronio et Iuliae sal.


Yes, thank you Petroni for this wonderful Latin poem. You are a very good Roman poet.

Te celebrent Novi Romani, laudibus amplis!

Vale!
Lentulus


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Ave Petroni!



Aeterna Nova Roma!!!!!

Inspirante et pulcherrima, bene facis.



Vale optime,



Julia



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "petronius_dexter" <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:

>

> C. Petronius Dexter Quiritibus s.p.d.,

>

> > Notes:

> > Every Kalends is sacred to Juno.

>

> Yes, and these especially to Nova Roma. Today is her 13th birthday, so I sing these verses hexameters to her:

>

> Ad duodenos, Roma, annos, unum adde natalem,

> Et iam maesta fugent felices oscina Ludi,

> Te celebrentque Novi Romani, laudibus amplis,

> Etsi difficilis crudusque fuit prior annus.

> Roma, senescis et noua dum semperque uirescis.

> Nunc, Clione iuuante, cano uos, moenia celsa,

> Auersa a regno truculenti principis alto.

>

> Nomen, quod ciet inuidiam, omni splendeat orbe,

> O Nova Roma! Habeto linguamque docere Latinam

> Virtutes priscasque hodiernis gentibus, atque

> Antiqua indigetum Romanis sacra deorum.

>

> Resque uiris abs egregiis sit Publica ducta,

> Oblitis decoris nimii, ad morum proba pronis,

> Magnanimus sic decernat consulta Senatus,

> Augustissimus ut sit tibi ex omnibus annus.

>

> Optime valete.

>

> C. Petronius Dexter

> Arcoiali scribebat

> Kalendis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.

>

























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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83438 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
SALVE ET SALVETE!
 
But Nova Roma is exclusivist, open, friendly and together we can transform her step by step in better place to stay.
Nova Roma respect but want the same, respect. There is not respect when one stays here and denigrates Nova Roma in other places. There is not respect when one because is not able to put in practice his/her vision in Nova Roma decide to leave and form another Roman State but based of the model learned here.
It is their natural right and option to do so but in the same way is the Nova Roma right to not accept them anymore. Think to a company for example. I am sure that no company in this world allows someone as simple member or member of the top management to active participate in the same time in another company with similar domain of activity. It is conflict of interests and unloyal concurrency.
And, yes, I want to see that as a rule. Nova Roma need to keep the standard high.
 
VALETE,
Sabinus


"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius

--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:


From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...>
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 1:31 PM


 




Cn. Lentulus Tulliae Scholasticae et Iuliae Aquilae s. p. d.

I share the concerns of these two finest ladies. Nova Roma should be inclusive, not exclusivist, especially these days, when more and more groups compete for the same Roman oriented people. The one that will win, it will be the one which is the more open, the more friendly, and the nicest place to stay.

I think the senate should have addressed the question and problem who the be THE BETTER, and not how to expel/exclude possible opponents.

Valete optime in fide rei publicae Novae Romanae!

--- Lun 7/3/11, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...> ha scritto:

 

>

>

>

> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Juliae Aquilae quiritibus bonae voluntatis (nec

> aliis) S.P.D.

>

>

> Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d

>

> Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.

> I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.

> The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand actions

> such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I have made

> it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being

> disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction to RPR

> which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be aimed at the

> individual and transgressions committed rather than something that "might

> happen."

>

>

> ATS: Paranoia, xenophobia, and other illnesses are running rampant in

> certain quarters these days.

>

> That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I am still not so sure

> that the SCU was needed.

>

> ATS: Well, you can guess why some thought it was.

>

>

> I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be

> reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree will

> remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to be

> seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.

>

> I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them but as a

> citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision entrusted

> to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and myself, have

> put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote including mine. I expect

> Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.

>

> The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a

> precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed to be

> an exception rather than a rule

>

>

> ATS: We managed to survive for what, ten or eleven years without a single

> SCU, but now they are being handed out like candy on Halloween.

>

>

> and I do not wish to see the citizens deprived of the voting process on key

> issues.

>

> ATS: And since there is no means of voting, no cista, the citizens have

> nothing to say about anything. The rigged elections have ensured that all

> magistrates wear the same political stripes; in turn, all others (except yours

> truly, and no doubt they are gunning for me) have been driven from the Senate,

> so everything they want will get railroaded through. Nothing happens about

> the urgent IT matter, for it suits some to ignore it, and claim (in keeping

> with that paranoia) that a good proposal involved fraud or what have you.

> Nothing happens about JSTOR, which would entice educated assidui, nothing

> happens except what seems good to the NR TEA party.

>

>

> As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be virtuous,

> not just to be honest but to know the difference between relative and actual

> truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our oaths but to carry

> them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to respect our Republic by

> asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare. It is the diversity

> of many peoples, of many varied experiences and philosophies that makes up our

> Respublica, that makes it colorful and interesting, that contributes to us

> moving forward – that and our love for Rome and the Respublica keeps many of

> us loyal and from giving up on her and embracing our virtues.

>

> ATS: As you are no doubt aware, Julia, there are several here who think

> that NR should be an English-only, North American, B-school, wealthy male

> project. Word has it that they have plots to drive everyone else out, or at

> least shut them out of office and of the senate by levying exorbitant taxes

> above and beyond the basic ones, which in turn would be raised above the means

> of many, especially those in less-developed countries. This nonsense about

> other Roman-oriented groups, notably this fledgling one called (I believe) Res

> Publica Romana, is just one more means of keeping Europeans and others out,

> and even at the intake level we have prohibitions on Latinizations, a

> long-time practice, and a cohors full of scribae who know no language but

> English.

>

> And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?

>

> ATS: Well, Crassus is probably doing his homework for me; he likes to get

> it in before I open the gadget. ;-) Not sure about the others, but it is odd

> that there was no tribune report of the Senate proceedings. Of course once

> the agenda is posted, one may simply assume that everything will be approved

> at the end of the voting period; only I stand for what is right, and my one

> vote has no effect.

>

> Vale, et valete,

>

> Julia

>

> Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis

>

> Vale, et valete.

>

>

>

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83439 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: T. Flavius Aquila' Righ to Citizenship
SALVE!
 
That was joint censors’ edict and that it means both censors have the same mind to the fact.
 
The SCU refers not only to the officials but to the:
"No member of Nova Roma Inc. or the Republic of Nova Roma shall be allowed to use their her/his membership either to create, develop or promote such competing organizations, or to act negatively towards Nova Roma, its citizenry, its image and reputation, its organization and actions, specifically to allow the creation, development or promotion of
competing organizations whose aim is the creation of a Roman Republican State."
and:
"Nova Roma Inc. is empowered to take every measure to prevent, avoid or
eliminate any one of the situations evoked in the article 1,including the rights
to refuse the admission of an applicant member, to remove a member of her/his
membership, to remove or deprive him/her, for a given time, of all or a part of
her/his rights of member and/or of her/his rights, powers, privileges and honors
which (s)he may hold inside Nova Roma Inc. or the Republic of Nova Roma,
including Article II.B of the Constitution of Nova Roma."
 
In our case of Flavius Aquila, the admission was refused.
 
VALE,
Sabinus

"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius

--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:


From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...>
Subject: [Nova-Roma] T. Flavius Aquila' Righ to Citizenship
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 1:27 PM


 



Cn. Lentulus C. Petronio et Tulliae Scolasticae et Iuliae Aquilae ac P. Memmio censori s. d.

I agree with Petronius, I agree with Scholastica, I agree with Iulia and I agree with the rest of those who protest against this censorial edict. T. Flavius Aquila is *not* an official of Nova Roma and he only begged to be a citizen of Nova Roma. This is not what the SCU wanted to impede.

I think Memmius' colleage, censor Sabinus or the tribunes of the plebs should veto this censorial edict - if it's legally possible.

Valete!
Lentulus

--- Lun 7/3/11, petronius_dexter <jfarnoud94@...> ha scritto:

 

C. Petronius P. Memmio censori s.p.d.,

> EDICTUM CENSORIUM DE T. FLAVII AQUILAE NEGATA CIVITATE

> (censorial edict on the reject of the citizenship of T. Flavius Aquila)

The SCU, if I am not wrong, did not state about the citizenship but about the officials of Nova Roma. So, if T. Flavius Aquila is an official of the RPR he cannot become an official of Nova Roma, ok, but he may be a simple citizen of Nova Roma, unless this case is not covered by the SCU acting only about the officials of Nova Roma.

T. Flavius Aquila is not yet an official of Nova Roma and he only begged to be NR citizen.

Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter

Arcoiali scribebat

Nonis Martiis P. Vllerio C. Equitio coss.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83440 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Citizenship and the SCU
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

I will have more to say about this situation in a little while, but I want to make it clear that there are some operating under a rather bizarre set of double standards here.

You all do realize that is was the clear and open intent to have me thrown out of the Respublica once Piscinus achieved his goal of obtaining power here in the Respublica, yes? Even now he rails against the "monotheists" who are here, including blaming the accident which befell Maria Caeca on the Gods' being angry at Nova Roma. In his nasty little mind, even though for months he was unable to support his own interpretations and claims regarding... well, anything, actually... he is right and all of Nova Roma is wrong.

Those who have joined him and Quintilianus in "Res Publica Romana" are responsible - and accountable - for his public statements about Nova Roma and her citizens. If they did not agree with him, they would not be there. So think about that before getting all weepy: Flavius Aquila tacitly supports the idea that not only have the Gods deserted Nova Roma, but They are actively punishing her citizens - like Maria Caeca.

If Piscinus and his merry little band were in power now, you can bet that I'd be somewhere far away, along with several others - even some who may now be crying about our attempts to secure our own dignity.

Valete,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83441 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma
Cn. Lentulus C. Petronio Africano sal.

Sorry for the late response, C. Petroni.

I am glad to see that you pray to Concordia - we need Her support too much. You can see it's not a problem if there are disagreements. Disagreements are necessary, and they are unavoidable in any free community. I, for example, am sacerdos of Concordia, yet I happen to disagree from time to time with almost everybody (though not in the same moment ;-) ... We can disagree even with your dearest friends, and with people we admire.

The point, when the prayers and concerns for Goddess Concordia enter in the picture, is where someone starts to denigrate his opponents, when someone engages in character assassination, in inciting hatred, and when someone start to fight "against people", and not "against opinions or facts".

Let us, O Beloved Concord, be able to disagree while remaining in agreement that all of us are needed, and all Nova Romans, and all people, are to be respected as human beings!

VALE!
Cn. Lentulus



--- Mer 2/3/11, George Vandewater <gunney1976@...> ha scritto:







 









Salvete Cn Cornelius Lentulus et avete, Novi Romani Quirites!



I too remember the early years of our Republic, the infighting and the civil

war. Having just returned after a long absence, I am grieved to see not much has

changed. I look forward to better times and pray the Goddes Concordia will look

favorably on your prayers and sacrifice.



I stand ready to help bring unity and glory back to the Republic.



Valete!

C. Petronius Africanus

America Astroccidentalis



________________________________

From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...>

To: Nova Roma ML <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>; NovaRoma-Announce

<novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com>; New Roman List <newroman@yahoogroups.com>;

Religio Romana List <ReligioRomana@yahoogroups.com>; nova_roma_@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 4:01:10 PM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] CONCORDIALIA RITUAL for the 13th Anniversary of Nova Roma



CN CORNELIUS LENTULUS : PONTIFEX : SACERDOS CONCORDIAE : QUIRITIBUS : S P D



Salvete et avete, Novi Romani Quirites!



Vivat Nova Roma invicta!

Hail to Nova Roma, invincible!



This day is when everything started - this is why we can be here: today, 13

years ago, Nova Roma was founded, the New Roman Nation was born. Tomorrow the

14th year of Nova Roma will start.



It has been a while that I came to this forum with a speech in my official

capacity as Sacerdos Concordiae. There was little place to Concord in the last

times. We have left a very difficult year behind us. Many, many of us have lost

our friends due to the infightings in Nova Roma. A separatist group has formed,

and it swallowed some of our noblest and best Romans. But we are STILL here,

Nova Roma lives! Nova Roma celebrates its 13th birthday today, people are

working for Nova Roma, and I dare to say it: YES, I still believe! I believe

Nova Roma will triumph, because the Gods are with us, and Concordia will bless

us.



Our Roman nation wants one common goal: to restore the Roman Republic. We have

to work twice as hard than ever: cooperatively, with united force, in common

spirit, with one will and one faith. If we do our best, maybe those citizens who

exiled themselves into the separatist group will come back one day.



This why we worship Goddes Concordia as the Patron Goddess of Nova Roma, the

Goddess of the Nova Roman People's Concord - She is whom we need first and

foremost in this 13-years-old Republic: to re-unite all Romans in one Nation, in

one true entity: in Nova Roma --to re-unite again all of us: those who departed,

and those who remained loyal.



TODAY I performed the ceremony for the 13th Anniversary of the founding of our

Republic with the assistance of T. Popillia Laenas. We celebrated together

representing all Nova Romans,



We sacrificed milk, wine, incense,and 13 libums, representing our 13 years, to

Concordia for protecting Nova Roma, and for Her citizens.



The sacrifice and ceremony has been this in which we included Mars as his feriae

is today:



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

1. SACRIFICE TO CONCORDIA POPULI NOVI ROMANI QUIRITIUM



Favete linguis!



(Beginning of the sacrifice.)



PRAEFATIO



Dea Concordia,

Concordia Novae Romae,

Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,

Concordia deorum et mortalium,

Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,

hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo Novae Romae conditae,

te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor,

uti sies volens propitia Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus, Reique Publicae Populi

Novi Romani Quiritium, mihi, domo, familiae!



(Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.)



Dea Concordia,

Concordia Novae Romae,

Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,

Concordia deorum et mortalium,

Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,

eiusdem rei ergo macte lacte inferio esto!"



(Libation of milk is made.)



PRECATIO



Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,

Concordia Novae Romae,

Concordia deorum et mortalium,

Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Senatus Populique Novi Romani,

fortitudo et firmitas nostra,

hisce Kalendis Martiis anni tertii decimi Novae Romae conditae,

hoc die festivissimo et sanctissimo quo Nova Roma condita est,

te precor, veneror, quaesoque obtestorque:

uti pacem concordiamque constantem societati Novae Romae tribuas;

utique Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium confirmes, augeas, adiuves,

omnibusque discordiis liberes;

utique Res Publica Populi Novi Romani Quiritium semper floreat;

atque hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae convalescat;

atque pax et concordia, salus et gloria Novae Romae omni tempore crescat,

utique omnes qui se Romanos nominant unifices,

unum populum unamque gentem omnes qui se Romanos nominant facias,

unum populum in Nova Roma omnes Romanos hodiernos colligas;

utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,

Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

mihi, domo, familiae

omnes in hoc anno quarto decimo Novae Romae eventus bonos faustosque esse siris;

utique sies volens propitia

Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,

Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,

Senatui Novo Romano,

omnibus civibus, viris et mulieribus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,

mihi, domo, familiae!



SACRIFICIUM



Sicut verba nuncupavi,

quaeque ita faxis,

uti ego me sentio dicere:

harum rerum ergo macte

his tribus libis libandis,

hoc vino lacte melleque mixto libando,

hoc ture ommovendo

his laureis sacrificandis

esto fito volens propitia

et hoc anno anniversario tertio decimo Novae Romae conditae et semper

Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,

Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,

Senatui Novo Romano,

omnibus civibus, viris et mulierbus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,

mihi, domo, familiae!



(Libation of 3 liba, laurels, and wine, milk and honey is made and incense is

sacrificed.)



REDDITIO



Dea Concordia,

Concordia Novae Romae,

Concordia Senatus Populique Novi Romani,

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

Concordia civium Novorum Romanorum,

Concordia deorum et mortalium,

Dea pacis et salutis et gloriae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

uti te ture commovendo et vino libando bonas preces bene precatus sum, earundem

rerum ergo macte lacte inferio esto!



(Libation of milk is made)



Mars Pater,

cuius mensis et feriae hodie sunt,

earundem rerum ergo,

macte vino inferio esto fito volens propitius

Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,

Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium!



(Libation of wine is made)



Ilicet!



(End of the sacrifice.)



PIACULUM



Iane,

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,

Iuppiter Optime Maxmime,

Iuno, Minerva, Mars,

Omnes Di Immortales quocumque nomine:

si quidquam vobis in hac caerimonia displicet,

hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio.



(Libation of wine is made.)



VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII !!!

NOVA ROMA XIII !!!



Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,

P O N T I F E X

SACERDOS CONCORDIAE



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83442 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Cn. Lentulus C. Catoni cos. sal.

>>> You all do realize that is was the clear and open intent to have me
thrown out of the Respublica once Piscinus achieved his goal of
obtaining power here in the Respublica, yes? <<<

I
think Piscinus wanted it so, but not the majority of those who were in
full, in partly or in any measure of agreement with him. I'm sure Cn.
Marinus Censorius would not thrown you out of the res publica, and I'm
sure Quintilianus would have not. But until I am here and I breath, I
would assure with all my strength that you would have not been thrown
out. You must understand and you must believe, C. Cato consul, and
everyone who reads this, that people who agreed with things initiated by
Quintilianus or Piscinus are not inherently immoral, or evil, or bad.
They, too, have conscience. People who supported Quintilianus or
Piscinus in the past are not a monolith group, it can simply be seen by
the fact that his faction was never united enough.

So my answer
to this question is this: I never thought for a single second that you
would be thrown out from Nova Roma, and be assured
that if he wanted to expel you, many people of those who otherwise
agreed with him, would fight against such decision. In this light, I
oppose the rejection of any supporters of Quintilianus, as I would
oppose the rejection of any supporter of Cato.

You can see from my part there is no double standard, but a consequent and uniform standard expected from all governing faction.





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83443 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Cn. Lentulus C. Catoni cos. sal.

>>> You all do realize that is was the clear and open intent to have me
thrown out of the Respublica once Piscinus achieved his goal of
obtaining power here in the Respublica, yes? <<<

I think Piscinus wanted it so, but not the majority of those who were in full, in partly or in any measure of agreement with him. I'm sure Cn. Marinus Censorius would not thrown you out of the res publica, and I'm sure Quintilianus would have not. But until I am here and I breath, I would assure with all my strength that you would have not been thrown out. You must understand and you must believe, C. Cato consul, and everyone who reads this, that people who agreed with things initiated by Quintilianus or Piscinus are not inherently immoral, or evil, or bad. They, too, have conscience. People who supported Quintilianus or Piscinus in the past are not a monolith group, it can simply be seen by the fact that his faction was never united enough.

So my answer to this question is this: I never thought for a single second that you would be thrown out from Nova Roma, and be assured that if he wanted to expel you, many people of those who otherwise agreed with him, would fight against such decision. In this light, I oppose the rejection of any supporters of Quintilianus, as I would oppose the rejection of any supporter of Cato.

You can see from my part there is no double standard, but a consequent and uniform standard expected from all governing faction.














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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83444 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Cn Iulius Caesar praetor Cn. Cornelio Lentulo sal.

I'll make it simpler for you and anyone else here. For those, like Titus
Flavius Aquila, that believe Nova Roma is a state or nation or both, and for
those that simply accept that we are a res publica with laws, then Aquila
and anyone else that cleaves to RPR is a traitor. Both under the concept of
nation and state and also under our law. You don't get dual citizenship
unless both states sign an agreement in the macronational world. Nova Roma
has decided, through the Constitutionally appointed process of the SCU
issued by the Senate, that dual citizenship is not an option. Advocating for
the purpose trying to seduce members for another group that claims to be a
res publica inside the communication venues of Nova Roma is treason legally.
Piscinus has done that. Piscinus' fake CP is tied to RPR by providing it
religious component. One stains the other. Besides, Aquila has made
statements that indicate where his preferences lie, so I see his presence
her on the Main List as an attempt to subvert citizens and raid members.

Further Lentulo, RPR was founded by a man who tried to stage a coup. The
dictatorship was a planned event back in 2009, not a reactive decision based
on a current crisis at the time it was launched. I have no faith in Marinus'
limited application of the powers he might have had. Fabius and Sulla would
probably have been in his sights to one extent or another, and that he
confirmed to me. Since the moving force behind the dictatorship was
Piscinus, then his loathing of Cato makes it highly likely that Marinus,
with great regret and lots of sniffling into his hanky, would have added
Cato's name to the list.

I'll give you uniformity. If for any reason any of that shower from RPR ever
show their face in NR again, they will be prosecuted for treason. So they
can collect their bags and ship out to their latest creation and stay there.

Optime vale

-----Original Message-----
From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 5:56 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU


Cn. Lentulus C. Catoni cos. sal.

>>> You all do realize that is was the clear and open intent to have me
thrown out of the Respublica once Piscinus achieved his goal of
obtaining power here in the Respublica, yes? <<<
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83445 From: Cato Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: R: [Nova-Roma] Citizenship and the SCU
Cato Cornelio Lentulo sal.

I have not made the claim that anyone who supports Piscinus is inherently "immoral, or evil, or bad." What I *am* saying is that they have made a choice to ally themselves with someone who wishes this Respublica only harm - and is willing, as always, to use the fear of the Gods as a weapon to attempt to frighten and intimidate others. *That* is both immoral and bad without a doubt.

It may be possible to be a sincere member of an organization and yet ignore the statements made by the person who is driving that organization's philosophical/emotional chariot, so to speak - but I truly doubt it. To ally oneself with the kinds of remarks made by Piscinus is a terrible mistake if one wishes to continue - or repair - a relationship with those of us in the civilized world.

Vale,

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83446 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Salve Iulia et salvete omnes,



IÂ’m the one at fault here being the substitute reporting Tribunus for
February. I had decided to wait till today to see if the reporting Tribunus
did publish the report but obliviously I did wait too long.



I will at once make the report and publish it as soon as it is finished. My
apologies to the people, Senators and Consul Cato as the presiding
Magistrate.



Valete optime bene,

Crassus



From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of luciaiuliaaquila
Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Março de 2011 04:49
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764





Ave Sulla,

Gratias, but I was actually wondering why Cato was posting rather than the
tribunes.

Vale bene,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave!
>
> With the matter of the Tribunes and the passage of the SCU this part of
the
> Constitution comes to play:
>
> V E.
>
> The Senate shall have the power to issue the *Senatus consultum
> ultimum*(the ultimate decree of the Senate). When in effect, this
> decree will
> supercede all other govermental bodies and authorities (with the exception
> of the dictator) and allow the Senate to invest the consuls with absolute
> powers to deal with a specific situation, subject only to their collegial
> veto and review by the Senate. Even under the authority of the Senatus
> consultum ultimum, the consuls may only temporarily suspend this
> Constitution; they may not enact any permanent changes hereto.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:52 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Iulia omnibus forensibus s.p.d
> >
> > Gratias Hon. Consul for the report.
> > I am pleased there is an expiration date of 31Dec2011.
> > The following statement is my opinion and mine alone. I understand
actions
> > such as the actions of Aquila and Corvus are cause for concern and I
have
> > made it no secret that their behavior has bothered me, as well as being
> > disappointing. It is my opinion however that the SCU is an overreaction
to
> > RPR which is nothing more than an idea and that any action should be
aimed
> > at the individual and transgressions committed rather than something
that
> > "might happen." That said, I do understand why the threat is perceived I
am
> > still not so sure that the SCU was needed.
> > I have been reassured however that the individual in each case will be
> > reviewed as objectively as possible. But whether or not I will agree
will
> > remain to be seen, and whether or not my opinion matters also remains to
be
> > seen. Either way today my only purpose is to state my opinion.
> >
> > I do not expect any decisions to be necessarily as I would judge them
but
> > as a citizen I expect fairness and reason to be applied to any decision
> > entrusted to our elected officials and their advisors as the people, and
> > myself, have put their trust in them as evidenced by their vote
including
> > mine. I expect Aequitas and Iustitia to be applied to each situation.
> >
> > The amount of SCUs lately concerns me and I hope this is not setting a
> > precedent as such a pattern would be disconcerting. An SCU is supposed
to be
> > an exception rather than a rule and I do not wish to see the citizens
> > deprived of the voting process on key issues.
> > As a Roman it is important to not only respect our virtues but to be
> > virtuous, not just to be honest but to know the difference between
relative
> > and actual truths, to not only be sincere with our commitments and our
oaths
> > but to carry them out with nobilitas, fides and clementia, and to
respect
> > our Republic by asking questions, by expressing concern for her welfare.
It
> > is the diversity of many peoples, of many varied experiences and
> > philosophies that makes up our Respublica, that makes it colorful and
> > interesting, that contributes to us moving forward – that and our love
for
> > Rome and the Respublica keeps many of us loyal and from giving up on her
and
> > embracing our virtues.
> >
> > And finally may I enquire where the Tribunes are?
> >
> > Vale, et valete,
> >
> > Julia
> >
> > Excepto probat regulum de rebus non exceptis
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83447 From: publiusalbucius Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: On the probabilities of expulsion in 2763
Salve dear Lentule,

The points you are raising are important ones, specially for NR History. I feel necessary to bring you, and all of our citizens, the elements that I have been brought to own, last year, as consul.

The explusion of our current consul Cato had been discussed inside an informal group of people around my former colleague Quintilianus, at the end 2762/2009. To be objective, I must say that Quintilianus has changed of position several times during the period while I have been informed of such intent. The last time (April 2763) we discussed both of the failed first attempt to impose a dictatorship (when I opposed to it a 1st time in January 2763), he seemed eager to, if he had been able at this time (!), to support the expulsion, but with a margin of doubt. If you would like to get a ratio, I would say 70/30.

On my former colleague praetor Marinus, I think that the problem is a wrong one : Marinus will never, at last, have accepted a dictatorship without the support of the *whole* senate. Why ? For different reasons, and specially because our censorius was always reluctant to face a strong opposition. He was a man of consensus, said otherwise.
The other weakness, independantly that he had no margin of maneouver towards the promoters of the dictatorship, is that Marinus committed the other error not publishing a clear and detailed program of what he would do as dictator. If he did, he could have said : "I would not have X or Y expelled or condemned". This was simple and he could have weakened the front of the opponents to the dictatorship who were gathering around me at the end of July 63.

What I cannot say is how things have moved in the three last weeks before the attempt of dictatorship (appr. July 1-20), because my former colleague and his supporters did not communicate with me any more. But the logic would be to consider that the "witch hunt" intents have surely not decreased in this period.

So, even we always prefer to keep the best image of people who may have their own qualities, I must confirm, for our public records, that our current consul was still, in last June 63, one of the top citizens concerned by a possible exclusion measure, as soon as the legal conditions would have allowed it.


>be assured that if he wanted to expel you, many people of those who otherwise agreed with him, would fight against such decision.

I am afraid, dear Lentule, that you may have over-evaluated the weigth that the good willing people, like you, would have kept at this time, once a dictatorship be set. The only limitation of a dictator is her/his own morality and virtues, and independence from a political factio. You, personally, could have brought judicious personal advices etc., but not a real political pressure.
The problem, that understood finally our censorius, is that what was proposed was not a consensual dictatorship, but a war one. And when it is the case, the dictator is not a free (wo)man : (s)he must apply the program of the winning majority. Here is the main reason of Marinus' withdrawal.

Vale Lentule,


Albucius csr
procos.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Cn. Cornelius Lentulus" <cn_corn_lent@...> wrote:
>
>
> Cn. Lentulus C. Catoni cos. sal.
>
> >>> You all do realize that is was the clear and open intent to have me
> thrown out of the Respublica once Piscinus achieved his goal of
> obtaining power here in the Respublica, yes? <<<
>
> I think Piscinus wanted it so, but not the majority of those who were in full, in partly or in any measure of agreement with him. I'm sure Cn. Marinus Censorius would not thrown you out of the res publica, and I'm sure Quintilianus would have not. But until I am here and I breath, I would assure with all my strength that you would have not been thrown out. You must understand and you must believe, C. Cato consul, and everyone who reads this, that people who agreed with things initiated by Quintilianus or Piscinus are not inherently immoral, or evil, or bad. They, too, have conscience. People who supported Quintilianus or Piscinus in the past are not a monolith group, it can simply be seen by the fact that his faction was never united enough.
>
> So my answer to this question is this: I never thought for a single second that you would be thrown out from Nova Roma, and be assured that if he wanted to expel you, many people of those who otherwise agreed with him, would fight against such decision. In this light, I oppose the rejection of any supporters of Quintilianus, as I would oppose the rejection of any supporter of Cato.
>
> You can see from my part there is no double standard, but a consequent and uniform standard expected from all governing faction.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83448 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Today we honor: VULCANUS
Cn. Lentulus pontifex Quiritibus sal.



During the 13 days of the Ludi Novi Romani, commemorating about the 13
years of Nova Roma, each day is dedicated to honour a deity important in
the life of Nova Roma.



On March 1, we contemplated on Mars and Concordia: on their exciting, paradox and dynamic relationship and their effect on our Roman republic. After the dies ater, Juno, next Minerva were in our focus. The day before yesterday we thought about Neptunus, yesterday we contemplated on our most sacred Goddess Vesta.

Today we honour Vulcanus, the god of beneficial and hindering fire who is associated with smithery.

You, Mighty Vulcanus, belong to the most ancient stage and oldest stratum of our religion. The Romans worshiped and honored you with a flamen - you were once in the center of religious piety. Please don't turn your face away from us - the New Romans worship you again, and you'll have a noble flamen one day, we promise!

Volcanus, you feed our fires in our hearts, make the Nova Romans grow in full strength and energy, make our hearts explode with love and dedication towards Nova Roma, our Nation, the Roman Nation of today!

We are a Nation of spirit, feed our spirits with your robust energies!

Give us your energy, Vulcanus, Mighty Vulcanus!

Make our heart explode with New and Roman Energy!

Vulcanus, explode in our hearts!

We need you, you need Nova Roma, we are here, you, too, be here with us always! Destroy what is lukewarm, give life to what is warm and elemental force of shining loyalty towards the Cause of the New Roman Nation!
 
Vulcanus, explode in our hearts!



Destroy the rampant stupidity and unRoman thinking. Give rebirth to the Roman mind!

Most Roman Vulcanus, explode in our hearts!


Nova Romans, Nation of Vulcanus. Meditate about Vulcanus, invoke Him in the name of our Nation. Vulcanus listens to the chanting of His Powerful Name. Vulcanus love the people who are His Nation, the living New Roman culture. Be the smith of this culture, our culture what we build here in Nova Roma: the New Roman culture.


What would you ask from the Mighty Vulcanus, the Smith of our re-born Roman nationality, oh Citizen of Nova Roma?



Answer to this message, and tell everyone: what does VULCANUS mean to your life?



Visit and read, and if you can, expand this article:



http://novaroma.org/nr/Volcanus

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VIVAT NOVA ROMA ANNORUM XIII




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83449 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá
Salve Magistra,



Thank you very much for these news of Caeca. The latest information had left
me much worried about our loved Caeca and, taking the accident and the other
developments, these are wonderful news.



May Caeca be able to recover quickly and return to our company soon.



Vale optime bene,

Crassus



From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of A. Tullia Scholastica
Sent: quinta-feira, 3 de Março de 2011 05:23
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] De Vestali nostrá





A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

After several days without news, two of us were able to reach the
hospital this evening, and got some information on Caeca¹s condition. The
nurse was far less cooperative than the previous one I had reached, but we
(Aeternia and I, separately) managed to ascertain that there is some
improvement; she is less critical, and under less sedation. Aeternia
managed to learn that skin graft surgery on Caeca¹s hand was successful, and
I learnt that they are trying to get her to eat (possibly real food, not
just the liquid via a stomach tube which she has been receiving), and that
she is off the rotating bed, but that this nurse knew nothing about the
previously-planned rib cage surgery.

We are trying to get there, but until Caeca is off the respirator and
out of the ICU, visits must be confined to those who do not live hundreds or
thousands of miles away. Recently she was not allowed any visitors at all,
and the ICU visits are typically confined to 15 minutes at very limited
times of day.

We will try to keep you posted.

Valete.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 83450 From: luciaiuliaaquila Date: 2011-03-07
Subject: Re: Report of The Senate Session Februarius 2764
Salve Crasse,

I thank you very much Tribune for this honest answer and reasonable explanation.
You have restored yet once again my faith in NR citizenry that you, a Tribune, take your oath seriously and my vote was not wasted.

Vale bene,

Julia



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Aemilius Crassus" <c.aemilius.crassus@...> wrote:
>
> Salve Iulia et salvete omnes,
>
>
>
> I'm the one at fault here being the substitute reporting Tribunus for
> February. I had decided to wait till today to see if the reporting Tribunus
> did publish the report but obliviously I did wait too long.
>
>
>
> I will at once make the report and publish it as soon as it is finished. My
> apologies to the people, Senators and Consul Cato as the presiding
> Magistrate.
>
>
>
> Valete optime bene,
>
> Crassus
>
>