Regilla omnibus sal.

Scholastica, is there other form for referring to women?

Mulier means woman/mulher. It's a little strange to talk to a friend saying Hi woman!/Oi mulher! or This is mulier Regilla/Essa é a mulher Regilla.

Bene valete!
 
--
V.A. Regilla

Tribuna Plebis
Legata Pro Praetore Provinciae Argentinae
Legata Pro Praetore Provinciae Brasiliae


________________________________
De: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...>
Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 6 de Março de 2012 7:59
Assunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Female Roman Citizens Re: Paterfalilias, patriarchy, and Nova Roma


 

>
>
> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Juliae Aquilae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.
>
>
> Iulia Omnibusque S.P.D
>
> Based on a philological discussion with Petronius last year regarding the
> meaning of words used in relation to Female Roman citizens:
>
> Matronae
> This is used married woman, divorcee or widow who has had children. I am a
> matron because I have been married and have children. Mothers are also
> referred to as Matris (Matres, Mater).
>
> Domina
> Married women only, with or without children. But as Petronius pointed out
> this also means the woman has slaves or is "boss." So i may continue to use
> this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)
>
> ATS: This term has rather unpleasant associations (as does the male
> equivalent, dominus), so we do not use it as a form of address. It is
> properly used to refer to a boss, but not to any woman one pleases. Strictly,
> however, the mistress of slaves is called an era / hera, and the master
> thereof an erus / herus. Domina factionis is reasonably proper.
>
> Virgo
> Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore
> considered Virgo.- unless they are concubines or prostitutes - then the label
> that fits is used. Praetrix Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category
>
> ATS: Well, mulier is likely a much better term, since I doubt that women
> of our age are, um, all that innocent. Virgines are more properly those too
> young to be married, or Vestales.
>
> Feminae
> Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra and
> Aeternia;))
>
> ATS: Femina also refers to any female animal, too; there is an extensive
> discussion on part of the nomenclature instructions for our schola about male
> and female frogs (given that rana is feminine in Latin, then how does one
> specify a male frog...)... Thus it is the considered opinion of our expert
> Latinist that mulier is much better for referring to women.
>
> Valete optime,
> Julia
>
> Vale, et valete.
>
>
>

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Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est pridie Nones Martias; hodiernus dies comitialis est.

"When the sixth sun climbs Olympus' slopes from ocean,
And takes his way through the sky behind winged horses,
All you who worship at the shrine of chaste Vesta,
Give thanks to her, and offer incense on the Trojan hearth.
To the countless titles Caesar chose to earn,
The honour of the High Priesthood was added.
Caesar's eternal godhead protects the eternal fire,
You may see the pledges of empire conjoined.
Gods of ancient Troy, worthiest prize for that Aeneas
Who carried you, your burden saving him from the enemy,
A priest of Aeneas' line touches your divine kindred:
Vesta in turn guard the life of your kin!
You fires, burn on, nursed by his sacred hand:
Live undying, our leader, and your flames, I pray." - Ovid, Fasti III

"What plain is not enriched with Latin blood, to bear witness with its
graves to our unholy strife.... What pool or stream has failed to
taste dismal war! What sea has Italian slaughter not discolored! What
coast knows not our blood!" - Horace, Odes and Epodes


"Tarquinius also built the Circus Maximus, which lies between the
Aventine and Palatine Hills, and was the first to erect covered seats
round it on scaffolding (for till then the spectators had stood), the
wooden stands being supported by beams. And dividing the places among
the thirty curiae, he assigned to each curia a particular section, so
that every spectator was seated in his proper place. This work also
was destined to become in time one of the most beautiful and most
admirable structures in Rome. For the Circus is three stades and a
half in length and four plethra in breadth. Round about it on the two
longer sides and one of the shorter sides a canal has been dug, ten
feet in depth and width, to receive water. Behind the canal are
erected porticos three stories high, of which the lowest story has
stone seats, gradually rising, as in the theatres, one above the
other, and the two upper stories wooden seats. The two longer
porticos are united into one and joined together by means of the
shorter one, which is crescent-shaped, so that all three form a single
portico like an amphitheatre, eight stades in circuit and capable of
holding 150,000 persons. The other of the shorter sides is left
uncovered and contains vaulted starting-places for the horses, which
are all opened by means of a single rope. On the outside of the
Circus there is another portico of one story which has shops in it and
habitations over them. In this portico there are entrances and ascents
for the spectators at every shop, so that the countless thousands of
people may enter and depart without inconvenience.

This king also undertook to construct the temple to Jupiter, Juno and
Minerva, in fulfilment of the vow he had made to these gods in his
last battle against the Sabines. Having, therefore, surrounded the
hill on which he proposed to build the temple with high retaining
walls in many places, since it required much preparation (for it was
neither easy of access nor level, but steep, and terminated in a sharp
peak), he filled in the space between the retaining walls and the
summit with great quantities of earth and, by levelling it, made the
place most suitable for receiving temples. But he was prevented by
death from laying the foundations of the temple; for he lived but four
years after the end of the war. Many years later, however, Tarquinius,
the second king after him, the one who was driven from the throne,
laid the founds of this structure and built the greater part of it.
Yet even he did not complete the work, but it was finished under the
annual magistrates who were consuls in the third year after his
expulsion. It is fitting to relate also the incidents that preceded
the building of it as they have been handed down by all the compilers
of Roman history. When Tarquinius was preparing to build the temple
he called the augurs together and ordered them first to consult the
auspices concerning the site itself, in order to learn what place in
the city was the most suitable to be consecrated and the most
acceptable to the gods themselves; and upon their indicating the hill
that commands the Forum, which was then called the Tarpeian, but now
the Capitoline Hill, he ordered them to consult the auspices once more
and declare in what part of the hill the foundations must be laid. But
this was not at all easy; for there were upon the hill many altars
both of the gods and of the lesser divinities not far apart from one
another, which would have to be moved to some other place and the
whole area given up to the sanctuary that was to be built to the gods.
The augurs thought proper to consult the auspices concerning each one
of the altars that were erected there, and if the gods were willing to
withdraw, then to move them elsewhere. The rest of the gods and lesser
divinities, then, gave them leave to move their altars elsewhere, but
Terminus and Juventas, although the augurs besought them with great
earnestness and importunity, could not be prevailed on and refused to
leave their places. Accordingly, their altars were included within the
circuit of the temples, and one of them now stands in the vestibule of
Minerva's shrine and the other in the shrine itself near the statue of
the goddess. From this circumstance the augurs concluded that no
occasion would ever cause the removal of the boundaries of the Romans'
city or impair its vigour; and both have proved true down to my day,
which is already the twenty-fourth generation." - Dionysius of
Halicarnassus 3.68-69

Valete bene!

Cato

Lentulus Aemiliae s. p. d.

As a general principle, Romans did not use such titles besides their names like M. or Ms, or Senor or Senora. For Roman males, the sign of politeness and respect was to use the praenomen with the name. "Cn. Lentulus", for a Roman, sounds as "Mr. Lentulus". In case of women, they used their cognomen or the father's or husband's name in genitive if the woman had one. Aemilia Regilla is therefore like Ms. Aemilia. In ancient Rome, few women had a cognomen, but in NR all female citizens have.

If you wanted to honor the person whom you talk to, you could use the name of his office (tribunus, consul, pontifex etc) - but was not as much required than in our modern times.

You could refer to someone with the title "civis", meaning "fellow-citizen".

As others pointed out, dominus/domina meant rather "slave-owner", not sir/mister.

As a gesture of politeness, you can add after the name the phrase "vir optimus", or "vir optime" (if directly invoked), or "femina/mulier optima". Most notable and highest ranking persons can be referred to by the phrases accompanying his names like "summus vir", "vir amplissimus", "vir clarissimus": there are many of such expressions, these ones are however illustrative of the phenomenon.

I recommend this page about using Roman adresses, names:
http://novaroma.org/nr/Using_Roman_names


 
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Da: Denise D. <aemilia.regilla@...>
Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Female Roman Citizens Re: Paterfalilias, patriarchy, and Nova Roma
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Data: Martedì 6 marzo 2012, 15:22
















 









Regilla omnibus sal.



Scholastica, is there other form for referring to women?



Mulier means woman/mulher. It's a little strange to talk to a friend saying Hi woman!/Oi mulher! or This is mulier Regilla/Essa é a mulher Regilla.



Bene valete!

 

--

V.A. Regilla



Tribuna Plebis

Legata Pro Praetore Provinciae Argentinae

Legata Pro Praetore Provinciae Brasiliae



________________________________

De: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...>

Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Enviadas: Terça-feira, 6 de Março de 2012 7:59

Assunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Female Roman Citizens Re: Paterfalilias, patriarchy, and Nova Roma





 

>

>

> A. Tullia Scholastica L. Juliae Aquilae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

>

>

> Iulia Omnibusque S.P.D

>

> Based on a philological discussion with Petronius last year regarding the

> meaning of words used in relation to Female Roman citizens:

>

> Matronae

> This is used married woman, divorcee or widow who has had children. I am a

> matron because I have been married and have children. Mothers are also

> referred to as Matris (Matres, Mater).

>

> Domina

> Married women only, with or without children. But as Petronius pointed out

> this also means the woman has slaves or is "boss." So i may continue to use

> this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)

>

> ATS: This term has rather unpleasant associations (as does the male

> equivalent, dominus), so we do not use it as a form of address. It is

> properly used to refer to a boss, but not to any woman one pleases. Strictly,

> however, the mistress of slaves is called an era / hera, and the master

> thereof an erus / herus. Domina factionis is reasonably proper.

>

> Virgo

> Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore

> considered Virgo.- unless they are concubines or prostitutes - then the label

> that fits is used. Praetrix Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category

>

> ATS: Well, mulier is likely a much better term, since I doubt that women

> of our age are, um, all that innocent. Virgines are more properly those too

> young to be married, or Vestales.

>

> Feminae

> Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra and

> Aeternia;))

>

> ATS: Femina also refers to any female animal, too; there is an extensive

> discussion on part of the nomenclature instructions for our schola about male

> and female frogs (given that rana is feminine in Latin, then how does one

> specify a male frog...)... Thus it is the considered opinion of our expert

> Latinist that mulier is much better for referring to women.

>

> Valete optime,

> Julia

>

> Vale, et valete.

>

>

>

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Cn. Caesar consul C. Claudio sal.

Just because someone sends you, unasked for, an email which contains allegations of the sort you describe does not place you under any sort of responsibility legally or in terms of a sense of honour to respect those imposed conditions. Something like that was once attempted on myself, and the person responsible got short shrift.

Of course if the sender had any sense of honour, he/she wouldn’t have tried to bind you with those conditions and would at least have stepped up by now and identified himself/herself.

Optime vale

From: Yehya
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 7:00 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Paterfalilias, patriarchy, and Nova Roma



Salve!

"Personally I think its a serious accusation and if someone is
cowardly enough to open the conversation without being forthright and
completely honest, especially when given hearsay is as serious as a charge of being misogynistic elements - as you have so clarified."

I wasn't sure if this was directed at me so I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were not calling me cowardly. Are you suggesting I should simply have posted that someone had told me, privately, that Nova Roma contained misogynistic elements and asked for a response? It seems a bit like asking "do you beat your wife" in that everyone would deny it regardless of fact.



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Devotional to Vesta



Eternal fire, eternal light;

Your warmth has protected

Your Romans since the first days

When you were honored, and when

You were not, at least so men could see



We are born, grow old and die;

But your light burns on:

Laws and customs change,

But you do not, and your fire,

The ever shifting, never quenched

Flame teaches us the constancy

At the heart of change,

Though different hands may tend your flame

Though you may be adored by those

Who have never walked the streets of

Ancient Rome, you remain, a beacon

Of strength; of protection, and we see

In the ever shifting light of your sacred

Fire, all the fires ever lit for you,

And in their depths, the hearts of all

Who ever prayed to you, then and now,

And our tomorrow rises like incense

Placed in your heart, blessing and promise

That you, Vesta Dea, contain; protect.



C. Maria Caeca

Sacerdos Vestae

03/06/12


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Sta. Cornelia Aeternia C. Mariae Caecae Sacerdoti Vestalis et Aedilis
Curulis Omnibusque S.P.D.

Exquisite as always, this was gorgeous.

Vale quam Optime,
Aeternia


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Sta. Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Today is day six of the Mythology Quiz, each question is worth 3 points.
Please submit all answers to the following e-mail address
Musesdream@... subject header/"Mythology Quiz"..

***Special Note*** Please do not reply with answers on the Main List,
please submit them through private response only! See the questions below.

So far those who have entered the competition, have been keeping up with
each other and it is a tight race, but I urge more to enter and participate!

Bonam Fortunam (Good Luck) to all the participants!

Valete Optime,
Aeternia


*Dies 6: (Vesta)*

1. Which Roman Poet stated that �Vesta is indeed the Earth itself�?

2. True or false. The Aedes wept once a year on June 15th?

3. Give the example of �Vesta extrema�?


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Salve!

"Just because someone sends you, unasked for, an email which contains allegations of the sort you describe does not place you under any sort of responsibility legally or in terms of a sense of honour to respect those imposed conditions. Something like that was once attempted on myself, and the person responsible got short shrift."

Normally I would agree but then again I should have stopped reading at the beginning when I read the conditions. It is my own fault for continuing to read after the warning as I view that as tacit acceptance of the conditions being imposed.

I don't like whispering campaigns or gossip and I don't like being a party to them. Nor do I like being placed in the position I found myself but I am not a child. I act based on my own understanding of honor because at the end of the day it is myself, and my creator, I need to justify my actions to and no one else.

I understand why this happened as it was based on something I had posted on another thread. But in the end I think it showed Nova Roma, and the majority of its members, in a good light and reflected poorly on myself. Such is sometimes life

Vale!

Gaius Claudius

C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
 

> Domina
> Married women only, with or without children.

 
No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called the woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of Catullus, Ovid...  This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman is said "uxor".
 

> But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or is "boss."

 
Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves. They are not their "boss". 
 

> So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)

 
The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
 

> Virgo
> Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore considered Virgo.- unless they are
> concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used. Praetrix Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.

 
Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the lovers. :o)
 

>Feminae
>Refers to any female.  Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra and Aeternia;))

 
Mulieres is better.
Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck, if you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas. 
 
Valete optime,

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.

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Salve!

I have always enjoyed Palladio's interpretation as can be seen here in model form:

http://www.soane.org/shop/Temple-of-Vesta-at-Tivoli-plaster-replica/

probably not historically accurate but it highlights the jewel like quality I like to think the original had

Vale!

Gauis Claudius

Salve Gaius Claudius ,
You said in part, "But in the end I think it showed Nova Roma, and the majority of its members, in a good light and reflected poorly on myself. Such is sometimes life" I agree that you question show Nova Roma in a good light. I disagree that it reflected poorly on you. You asked a question. You received a number of answers that refuted the central tenetof the accusation against Nova Roma. We have a new and informed citizen and you have a community willing to answer uncomfortable questions. Sounds like a win, win to me. Vale Ti. Galerius PaulinusCensor



To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: yehya_61@...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:01:36 +0000
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Paterfalilias, patriarchy, and Nova Roma
































Salve!



"Just because someone sends you, unasked for, an email which contains allegations of the sort you describe does not place you under any sort of responsibility legally or in terms of a sense of honour to respect those imposed conditions. Something like that was once attempted on myself, and the person responsible got short shrift."



Normally I would agree but then again I should have stopped reading at the beginning when I read the conditions. It is my own fault for continuing to read after the warning as I view that as tacit acceptance of the conditions being imposed.



I don't like whispering campaigns or gossip and I don't like being a party to them. Nor do I like being placed in the position I found myself but I am not a child. I act based on my own understanding of honor because at the end of the day it is myself, and my creator, I need to justify my actions to and no one else.



I understand why this happened as it was based on something I had posted on another thread. But in the end I think it showed Nova Roma, and the majority of its members, in a good light and reflected poorly on myself. Such is sometimes life



Vale!



Gaius Claudius


















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Salve/Salvete!

This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?

C. Laelius Silvanus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
>
> Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
>
> Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
>
> Optime valete
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
> I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> Class 1 rate - $42.00
> Class 2 rate - $34.00
> Class 3 rate - $25.00
> Class 4 rate - $17.00
> Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
>
> II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
>
> III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
>
> A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
>
> B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
>
> C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
>
> D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
>
> IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
>
> V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
>
> VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
>
> VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
>
> VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
>
> IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
>
> A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
>
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>

Salve Gai Claude

You might enjoy this:
http://aedesvenusgenetrix.blogspot.com/2011/05/amazing-colossal-temple-on-romes.html

Vale bene,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Yehya" <yehya_61@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Salve!
>
> I have always enjoyed Palladio's interpretation as can be seen here in model form:
>
> http://www.soane.org/shop/Temple-of-Vesta-at-Tivoli-plaster-replica/
>
> probably not historically accurate but it highlights the jewel like quality I like to think the original had
>
> Vale!
>
> Gauis Claudius
>

Salve, Silvane!

You need to know which Century you are assigned to so check your account in the Album Civium. Once you have your Century, simply match that Century number to the Tax Class, then look for the taxes required for your Tax Class. For instance, a citizen in Century 29 should pay $25.00, unless other arrangements have been made privately with the CFO. If that citizen had failed to pay taxes in previous years he or she should make arrangements with the CFO to pay those back taxes. 

Bene vale!
 
M. Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis
Vivat Nova Roma!




________________________________
From: C. Laelius Silvanus <scipio1108@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


 
Salve/Salvete!

This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?

C. Laelius Silvanus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
>
> Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
>
> Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
>
> Optime valete
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
> I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> Class 1 rate - $42.00
> Class 2 rate - $34.00
> Class 3 rate - $25.00
> Class 4 rate - $17.00
> Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
>
> II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
>
> III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
>
> A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
>
> B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
>
> C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
>
> D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
>
> IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
>
> V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
>
> VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
>
> VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
>
> VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
>
> IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
>
> A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salve, et salvete omnes,

1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album

2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.

3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your tax is $9

Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.

Hope this is clear;)

Vale, et valete,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@...> wrote:
>
> Salve/Salvete!
>
> This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?
>
> C. Laelius Silvanus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> >
> > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> >
> > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
> >
> > Optime valete
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> >
> > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> >
> > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> >
> > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> >
> > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
> >
> > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> >
> > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> >
> > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> >
> > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> >
> > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Salve!

The one of the favorite word for the lovers is puella or virgo?
 
--
V.A. Regilla

Tribuna Plebis
Legata Pro Praetore Provinciae Argentinae
Legata Pro Praetore Provinciae Brasiliae


________________________________
De: Jean-François Arnoud <jfarnoud94@...>
Para: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 6 de Março de 2012 14:32
Assunto: Re : [Nova-Roma] Female Roman Citizens


 


C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
 

> Domina
> Married women only, with or without children.

 
No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called the woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of Catullus, Ovid...  This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman is said "uxor".
 

> But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or is "boss."

 
Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves. They are not their "boss". 
 

> So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)

 
The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
 

> Virgo
> Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore considered Virgo.- unless they are
> concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used. Praetrix Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.

 
Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the lovers. :o)
 

>Feminae
>Refers to any female.  Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra and Aeternia;))

 
Mulieres is better.
Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck, if you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas. 
 
Valete optime,

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.

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Iulia Petronio omnibusque sal,

*laughs* and so more depth to what seems so simple in English and demonstrates the wonderful intricacies of then Latin language!

Now both you and Magistra mentioned lovers using domina/dominus *grin* been there done that (?Illinc fui et illud feci?) But I sort of like sovereign mistress. Be careful that you are not giving me lofty ideas! Just kidding, my fellow cives will pull me out the clouds with a swiftess that Mercurius would admire!

Still, I shall be as stubborn as you are amice and I shall continue to use Domina for Albata:)

Uxor is good but I rarely hear it used. However I understand a woman must be actively married, not divorced or widowed for it to refer to her. It is not something a married woman would use to describe herself unless she says "i am Maria, uxor of Caesar"?

>> Mulieres is better.
> Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck, if you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas.

Ok, ok, Mulieres then;)

Gratias tibi Petroni and also to Scholastica!

Vale, et valete optime

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Jean-François Arnoud <jfarnoud94@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
>  
> > Domina
> > Married women only, with or without children.
>  
> No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called the woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of Catullus, Ovid...  This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman is said "uxor".
>  
> > But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or is "boss."
>  
> Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves. They are not their "boss". 
>  
> > So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)
>  
> The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
>  
> > Virgo
> > Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore considered Virgo.- unless they are
> > concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used. Praetrix Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.
>  
> Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the lovers. :o)
>  
> >Feminae
> >Refers to any female.  Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra and Aeternia;))
>  
> Mulieres is better.
> Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck, if you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas. 
>  
> Valete optime,
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve!

Yes, this cleared this up.  Thanks!

Vale,
Silvanus



________________________________
From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


 
Salve, et salvete omnes,

1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album

2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.

3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your tax is $9

Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.

Hope this is clear;)

Vale, et valete,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@...> wrote:
>
> Salve/Salvete!
>
> This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?
>
> C. Laelius Silvanus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> >
> > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> >
> > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
> >
> > Optime valete
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> >
> > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> >
> > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> >
> > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> >
> > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
> >
> > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> >
> > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> >
> > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> >
> > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> >
> > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




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Semi finals, race 1



Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen all across the Republic! This is NR LIVE, I'm Arianrhod with Hermanus, my husband, and this is the semifinal races of the Ludi Novi Romani!



Her: Before we begin the race, though, we have a special report on the 2nd quarter final race, where Cn. Cornelius' chariot was disqualified, costing Russata the win. In our studio with us is Fantastica, who has an update.



Fan: I do, indeed,Hermanus. We have learned from the press relations office of the Curule Aedilicia that the chariot in question was disqualified, because the owner was caught trying to hire the sabotage of the Albata entry in that race. The owner was banned from racing in these races,but not for the entire year, as could have happened, and received a very hefty fine .twice the amount paid for his attempt.



AR: Do either the chariot owner, Lentulus, or the Aedile have anything to say abut this?

FAN: (laughs). Well, the owner protests his innocence with great vigor, saying he had no knowledge of this .and the Aedile made no direct comment, other than to say that there is always a cost to taking certain kinds of risks. All she would say to this reporter was, and I quote, was "We discovered a serious problem. I dealt with it."



HER: So .hopefully, we will see Fodor Sophia in other races .but I'd be willing to bet the owned will be *much* more careful in future.



AR: OK, the parade of chariots has started. This race is all blue and white! And Albata fans and Veneta fans are tossing blue and white pompoms at one another, and engaging in god natured shouting matches. Blue and white banners and ribbons are everywhere, and the heads of both factios are in their boxes, surrounded by friends and well wishers. Fist, we have Fulmen driven by Mugitus and owned by P. Porcius Licinus. It's going to be a noisy race, (laughs). It's a good thing our microphones can't pick up exactly *what* Licinus shouts ..the Praetors would take us off the air! Next, we have Tudor Decimator, driven by Serapis, and owned by M. Iulius Aquila. He's the grandson of Pontifex L. Iulia Aquila, you know, and he will be racing against his grandmother's chariot in this race.

AR: Oh, my! But knowing the Pontifex and he grandson as I do, they are probably rooting for each other. Of course, they would love a 1, 2 finish .although they differ as to who would be in each winning spot!



HER: Yes, noting like a family affair! Last, for Veneta is Ballista, driven superbly in the last race by Valens, and owned by the Pontifex Maximus C. Petronius Dexter.



AR: Who is *also* one of our Praetors, so watch your language, especially when things heat up.



HER: *my* language? *laughs* you, little Welsh girl, can make a battle hardened legionary blush!



AR: From whom do you think I learned? OK .the parade has finished, and the Aedile is escorted to her place above the tack. The crowd is going insane and she waits a minute, then raises the mappa, and lets it fall. They[re off!



HER: Leaving the gate, it's Ballista, Ignis Natus, Tudor Decimator, then Fulmen, and Mugitus has already started shouting .probably telling the others to get out of his way.



AR: well,it's certainly a leisurely start! They're all conserving energy, but it looks like they're out for a Spring picnic, for all love!



HER: they go into the 1st turn, and Ballista has the perfect line. Out they come, and here comes Ignis Natus to challenge Ballista .and Fulmen is challenging Tudor Decimator. Young Serapis just flicked his whip at Mugitus, who laughs and flicks his back. Is that greeting, or threat? But .ah! Serapis used the momentary distraction to edge ahead of Fulmen, and is keeping him blocked in, unable to pass. The lap marker falls for the 1st lap, and it's Ballista by a nostril, then Ignis Natus, then a small gap, then Tudor Decimator and Fulmen, practically on his backboard! But Ignis Natus is making a move, and Canius is trying to crowd Valens, who isn't having any.



AR: is Canius smiling, yet?



HER: Not that I can see, which is good for Ballista! OK, oh,wow ..Serapis tried to block Mugitus and went the wrong way, and Fulmen takes advantage to slip just ahead of Serapis, who is trying to get back into 3rd place, and, into the turn they go! Canius has the best line, and gives his horses their head to sweep through the turn. Out they come .and Ignis Natus has a nice lead, but Fulmen is challenging Ballista, now, with Decimator right behind him. Ballista keep his place,though, and Valens doesn't even look back, but seems to be measuring the distance between him and the leader. The 2nd lap marker drops, and it's Canius in 1st, followed by Valens in Ballista, then Canius in Ignis Natus,and Mugitus in Fulmen right behind, and into to the 3rd lap.



AR: Here comes Serapis! He is passing everybody! He's now in 2nd, challenging Ballista,but Ballista isn't giving any ground, so he settles in 2nd, while Canius and Mugitus battle for the 3rd position, and I think .yes,Canius is smiling. That is very dangerous! Fulmen ties to pass, and Canius cracks his whip, just in front of the opposing horses noses. They shy a little, but Mugitus keeps control, though it costs him 3rd place, and in to the turn they go, with Ballista getting the perfect line, and Valens is taking that turn closely,but not dangerously. They come out, and the crowd is wild. Serapis is now challenging Ballista again, and this time, he gets ahead, and Fulmen is moving up on Canius, and .tries to crowd Canius into the wall, but Canius keeps his line. Fulmen draws into 3rd, and the 3rd lap marker drops. So it's Ballista and Tudor Decimator fighting neck and neck for 1st, and Fulmen and Ignis Natus fighting for 3rd, but there aren't 2 chariot lengths between all of them!



Into the next turn.and Decimator slips inside Ballista's line,and is going to risk a very close pass of the Spina. If it works, it will put him in front, but if it doesn't .OK,they have all come out OK, and, indeed, Decimator has pulled in front,and Serapis raises an arm in victory. Not quite yet, lad.



OK, the 3rd lap marker has dropped, and we are almost half way through this race. It looks like everyone is going to take this lap a little easy.conserving energy for the finish. They keep place into the turn, but Fulmen.men slips through Canius' guard and comes out in 3rd. Canius has something else in mind, however, and forces past Fulmen, or ties to, but Fulmen is challenging Ballista for 2nd, the they ace, the 2 Veneta chariots, side by side, and into the turn, with Serapis in Tudor Decimator getting the line this time. Out they come,and it's Decimator, Fulmen with Ballista right behind, and then Ignis Natus, holding back, I think.



Ah,now then! As the 4th marker drops, and the 5th lap begins, Canius starts his challenge of Ballista, trying to creep ahead. Fulmen is moving up on Tudor Decimator, and I think Mugitus is trying to deafen Serapis, who is laughing. Into the turn they go, and ut in the same positions,and keep them until the marker drops and the 6th lap begins.



Canius gives his hoses their heads,and he pulls ahead of Ballista, while Serapis increases his lead over Fulmen ..and Mugitus is furious! But they go into the turn, and this time, it looks like Fulmen will take the risk, and hug the Spina, trying to get an advantage, but they come out, and Decimator is still in front by a length, now, with Fulmen next, then Canius, who is starting to challenge Fulmen, and the lap marker drops. We're in the final lap .now we'll have some *fun*! Canius is making his move on Fulmen,but Fulmen is pounding down this course, with Decimator in his sighs. Decimator tries to keep the lead,but Fulmen is catching him up, and Serapis can't get what he needs from his horses. So, going into the final turn, it's Serapis, with Fulmen jus behind, Then Canius, then Ballista, and out they come for the final stretch. Look at Fulmen go! He's gabbed the lead, just,and here comes Canius! Ignis Natus has passed the other Albata chariot ..and, it looks like it's going to be Fulmen, Ignis Natus, Tudor Decimator, and Ballista. It isn't quite a photo finish,but there isn't much room between any of them!



It has certainly turned ut to be an exciting race, and after some entertainment, sponsored this time, I'm told by the Midatlantica Provincia, we'll be back with more from the Circus Maximus! Bye for now!




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SALVETE!


I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I,  Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Titus Iulius Sabinus (Adrian Zavoianu) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of governor of Dacia to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of governor of Dacia and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

VALETE,
Sabinus


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Ave!

If anyone has any question regarding the tax, or if they want to mail it in
surface mail. Please contact me offlist. If anyone needs arrangments to
pay the tax, please, also contact me off list.

My email address is: robert.woolwine@...
My phone number is: 480-567-2265.

I am home all this week so anyone can call me anytime - day or night.

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Jack Green <scipio1108@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Salve!
>
> Yes, this cleared this up. Thanks!
>
> Vale,
> Silvanus
>
> ________________________________
> From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:36 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX
> FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
>
>
>
> Salve, et salvete omnes,
>
> 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
>
> 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your
> name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
>
> 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII
> (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your
> tax is $9
>
> Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
>
> Hope this is clear;)
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Julia
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Salve/Salvete!
> >
> > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what
> tax class one is in?
> >
> > C. Laelius Silvanus
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > >
> > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C.
> (2012).
> > >
> > > Optime valete
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > >
> > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765
> A.U.C.
> > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > >
> > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes,
> using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de
> comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > Class 1 rate ��" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > Class 2 rate ��" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > Class 3 rate ��" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > Class 4 rate ��" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > Class 5 rate ��" Centuries 46 to 50
> > >
> > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > >
> > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be
> calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a
> citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50
> cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > >
> > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is
> deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted
> it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the
> full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui
> until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal
> account.
> > >
> > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be
> specified by the CFO.
> > >
> > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be
> specified by the CFO.
> > >
> > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May
> 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount
> specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in
> century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and
> payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > >
> > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable
> for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and
> September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable
> as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount
> specified at X.A for class I.
> > >
> > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable
> for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st
> and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the
> amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > >
> > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st
> to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and
> payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods,
> will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and
> payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > >
> > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765
> A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion
> of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> > >
> > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > >
> > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova
> Roma.
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Can I just say this is such a joke thread that is just straining to come
out......I'm really trying to keep this on the back alley but
but....but.....the jokes there are thousands of them!!!!!

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jean-Fran�ois Arnoud
<jfarnoud94@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
>
> > Domina
> > Married women only, with or without children.
>
> No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called the
> woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of Catullus,
> Ovid... This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the
> title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman is
> said "uxor".
>
> > But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or is
> "boss."
>
> Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves. They
> are not their "boss".
>
> > So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)
>
> The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
>
> > Virgo
> > Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore
> considered Virgo.- unless they are
> > concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used. Praetrix
> Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.
>
> Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who
> means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the
> lovers. :o)
>
> >Feminae
> >Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra
> and Aeternia;))
>
> Mulieres is better.
> Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is
> always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck, if
> you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas.
>
> Valete optime,
>
> C. Petronius Dexter
> Arcoiali scribebat
> pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Ave!

You don't like it..yet here you are...in the middle of a whispering
campaign that you are involved with.

Any person with critical thinking skills who has been on the ML for a
reasonable amount of time could see from observation that Nova Roma as an
organization is not in anyway shape or form mysnogistic. You should have
LOOKED to the motive of the sender of the message. Their credibility is
non-existant and I wonder if you are now in contact with that person?

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Yehya <yehya_61@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Salve!
>
>
> "Just because someone sends you, unasked for, an email which contains
> allegations of the sort you describe does not place you under any sort of
> responsibility legally or in terms of a sense of honour to respect those
> imposed conditions. Something like that was once attempted on myself, and
> the person responsible got short shrift."
>
> Normally I would agree but then again I should have stopped reading at the
> beginning when I read the conditions. It is my own fault for continuing to
> read after the warning as I view that as tacit acceptance of the conditions
> being imposed.
>
> I don't like whispering campaigns or gossip and I don't like being a party
> to them. Nor do I like being placed in the position I found myself but I am
> not a child. I act based on my own understanding of honor because at the
> end of the day it is myself, and my creator, I need to justify my actions
> to and no one else.
>
> I understand why this happened as it was based on something I had posted
> on another thread. But in the end I think it showed Nova Roma, and the
> majority of its members, in a good light and reflected poorly on myself.
> Such is sometimes life
>
> Vale!
>
> Gaius Claudius
>
>
>


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Ave Censor et Amice,

I am sorry, but i respectfully disagree with you slightly. One of the
classes I teach is critical thinking skills and part of that deals with the
assimilation of research, of data, and of information.

This type of question, that was asked was no different than asking the
question, Have you stopped beating your wife yet? You say yes..,.you are
screwed...you say no..you are screwed.

This is why I responded to the individual did he do research like reading
the FAQ? That provides some answers there (though I wish we could rewrite
some of the FAQ to utilize different language because some of the answers
are harsh). No, there is two issues I still have. The identity of the
person who sent the email to Claudius.....Secondly, this is the second time
this question has been raised on the ML and frankly, I would like to go and
find the previous time it was raised and compare that situation to this
one.

The altrustic, I just wanna know if its the truth explanation given by
Claudius just kinda stretches the believability scale, and this I have no
problem saying is my own personal opinion.

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <
spqr753@...> wrote:

>
> Salve Gaius Claudius ,
> You said in part, "But in the end I think it showed Nova Roma, and the
> majority of its members, in a good light and reflected poorly on myself.
> Such is sometimes life" I agree that you question show Nova Roma in a good
> light. I disagree that it reflected poorly on you. You asked a question.
> You received a number of answers that refuted the central tenetof the
> accusation against Nova Roma. We have a new and informed citizen and you
> have a community willing to answer uncomfortable questions. Sounds like a
> win, win to me. Vale Ti. Galerius PaulinusCensor
>
>
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> From: yehya_61@...
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:01:36 +0000
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Paterfalilias, patriarchy, and Nova Roma
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salve!
>
>
>
> "Just because someone sends you, unasked for, an email which contains
> allegations of the sort you describe does not place you under any sort of
> responsibility legally or in terms of a sense of honour to respect those
> imposed conditions. Something like that was once attempted on myself, and
> the person responsible got short shrift."
>
>
>
> Normally I would agree but then again I should have stopped reading at the
> beginning when I read the conditions. It is my own fault for continuing to
> read after the warning as I view that as tacit acceptance of the conditions
> being imposed.
>
>
>
> I don't like whispering campaigns or gossip and I don't like being a party
> to them. Nor do I like being placed in the position I found myself but I am
> not a child. I act based on my own understanding of honor because at the
> end of the day it is myself, and my creator, I need to justify my actions
> to and no one else.
>
>
>
> I understand why this happened as it was based on something I had posted
> on another thread. But in the end I think it showed Nova Roma, and the
> majority of its members, in a good light and reflected poorly on myself.
> Such is sometimes life
>
>
>
> Vale!
>
>
>
> Gaius Claudius
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Ave!

So you joined first, ok......and this raises other questions then! So you
read the website.....you have been in NR long enough to observe...so then
why ask now? What prompted you to ask? Wasn't the evidence clear that NR
wasn't misogynistic from the time you joined the lists til now?

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Yehya <yehya_61@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Salve!
>
>
> "Interesting. Personally I think its a serious accusation and if someone
> is cowardly enough to open the conversation without being forthright and
> completely honest, especially when given hearsay is as serious as a charge
> of being misogynistic elements - as you have so clarified. It is no
> different than the tactics of using paid informers. So, I would suggest you
> give up your source or find another organization to belong to. Because I
> also find it telling that you seemed to have no problem joining an
> organization that you have been told might have misogynistic elements.
> Either way its damn telling."
>
> I joined first so I didn't join an organization I had been told was
> anything other than what it appeared to be. I didn't solicit the private
> message and it was sent with the direction to keep it private.
>
> I thought the charge was serious enough to investigate but being new here
> there seem to be undercurrents I was unaware of when joining.
>
> I would be happy to discuss the matter privately.
>
> Vale!
>
> G Claudius Axenrothus
>
>
>


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Ave Sulla

*laughs*. Didn't I see somewhere that you gave out your phone number and you are available 24/7? That must be woven into the jokes. Do I feel a parody comIng on?

Vale

Julia



Sent from my iphone4

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Can I just say this is such a joke thread that is just straining to come
> out......I'm really trying to keep this on the back alley but
> but....but.....the jokes there are thousands of them!!!!!
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jean-François Arnoud
> <jfarnoud94@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
> >
> > > Domina
> > > Married women only, with or without children.
> >
> > No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called the
> > woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of Catullus,
> > Ovid... This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the
> > title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman is
> > said "uxor".
> >
> > > But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or is
> > "boss."
> >
> > Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves. They
> > are not their "boss".
> >
> > > So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata boss;)
> >
> > The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
> >
> > > Virgo
> > > Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are therefore
> > considered Virgo.- unless they are
> > > concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used. Praetrix
> > Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.
> >
> > Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who
> > means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the
> > lovers. :o)
> >
> > >Feminae
> > >Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I, Magistra
> > and Aeternia;))
> >
> > Mulieres is better.
> > Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is
> > always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck, if
> > you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas.
> >
> > Valete optime,
> >
> > C. Petronius Dexter
> > Arcoiali scribebat
> > pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ave!

Yes for taxes. LOL

ROFLMAO!!!!!! Oh no....see you're trying to get me not just moderated but
banned from the ML! I see you plotting away! Good try! Good try indeed!

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ave Sulla
>
> *laughs*. Didn't I see somewhere that you gave out your phone number and
> you are available 24/7? That must be woven into the jokes. Do I feel a
> parody comIng on?
>
> Vale
>
> Julia
>
> Sent from my iphone4
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Can I just say this is such a joke thread that is just straining to come
> > out......I'm really trying to keep this on the back alley but
> > but....but.....the jokes there are thousands of them!!!!!
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jean-Fran�ois Arnoud
> > <jfarnoud94@...>wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
> > >
> > > > Domina
> > > > Married women only, with or without children.
> > >
> > > No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called
> the
> > > woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of
> Catullus,
> > > Ovid... This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the
> > > title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman
> is
> > > said "uxor".
> > >
> > > > But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or
> is
> > > "boss."
> > >
> > > Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves.
> They
> > > are not their "boss".
> > >
> > > > So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata
> boss;)
> > >
> > > The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
> > >
> > > > Virgo
> > > > Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are
> therefore
> > > considered Virgo.- unless they are
> > > > concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used.
> Praetrix
> > > Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.
> > >
> > > Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who
> > > means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the
> > > lovers. :o)
> > >
> > > >Feminae
> > > >Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I,
> Magistra
> > > and Aeternia;))
> > >
> > > Mulieres is better.
> > > Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is
> > > always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck,
> if
> > > you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas.
> > >
> > > Valete optime,
> > >
> > > C. Petronius Dexter
> > > Arcoiali scribebat
> > > pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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Cn. Lentulus M. Pompeio et omnibus sal.

>>> If that citizen had failed to pay taxes in previous years he or she

should make arrangements with the CFO to pay those back taxes. <<<

If I read your message correctly, does it mean that a person who was capite census and wishes to be assiduus this year had to pay all the taxes retroactively, for all past years when he was capite census?

I direct this question not to you, but to anybody who knows the answer.

Vale!



--- Mar 6/3/12, M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...> ha scritto:

Da: M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...>
Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Data: Martedì 6 marzo 2012, 19:34
















 









Salve, Silvane!



You need to know which Century you are assigned to so check your account in the Album Civium. Once you have your Century, simply match that Century number to the Tax Class, then look for the taxes required for your Tax Class. For instance, a citizen in Century 29 should pay $25.00, unless other arrangements have been made privately with the CFO. If that citizen had failed to pay taxes in previous years he or she should make arrangements with the CFO to pay those back taxes. 



Bene vale!

 

M. Pompeius Caninus

America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!



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OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the lowest rate?

G. Quinctius Flamininus



________________________________
From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


 
Salve, et salvete omnes,

1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album

2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.

3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your tax is $9

Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.

Hope this is clear;)

Vale, et valete,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@...> wrote:
>
> Salve/Salvete!
>
> This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?
>
> C. Laelius Silvanus
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> >
> > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> >
> > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
> >
> > Optime valete
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> >
> > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> >
> > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> >
> > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> >
> > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
> >
> > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> >
> > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> >
> > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> >
> > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> >
> > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




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M. Caninus Cn. Lentulo et omnibus S.P.D.

The Senatus Consultum states:

VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis. 


So, it appears that the CFO will make a decision on how much, if any, back taxes must be paid to return to assiduus status in 2765. I cannot speak for the CFO but I am sure that getting some money is better than getting no money. So, if one was capite census for multiple years it may be somewhat unlikely that *all* taxes retroactively will be required. 

Bene vale et valete!
 
M. Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis
Vivat Nova Roma!




________________________________
From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...>
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


 
Cn. Lentulus M. Pompeio et omnibus sal.

>>> If that citizen had failed to pay taxes in previous years he or she

should make arrangements with the CFO to pay those back taxes. <<<

If I read your message correctly, does it mean that a person who was capite census and wishes to be assiduus this year had to pay all the taxes retroactively, for all past years when he was capite census?

I direct this question not to you, but to anybody who knows the answer.

Vale!

--- Mar 6/3/12, M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...> ha scritto:

Da: M. Pompeius Caninus <m.pompeius@...>
Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Data: Martedì 6 marzo 2012, 19:34

 

Salve, Silvane!

You need to know which Century you are assigned to so check your account in the Album Civium. Once you have your Century, simply match that Century number to the Tax Class, then look for the taxes required for your Tax Class. For instance, a citizen in Century 29 should pay $25.00, unless other arrangements have been made privately with the CFO. If that citizen had failed to pay taxes in previous years he or she should make arrangements with the CFO to pay those back taxes. 

Bene vale!

 

M. Pompeius Caninus

America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

_

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Cn. Caesar C. Quinctio sal.

I posted an edict that covers this. The CFO (Sulla) will check out how many century points you have. I will step through the process.

More for others benefit that yours (as you are a long time citizen and likely know this), you access your century points my looking yourself up in the Album civium and clicking on details. Your century point total is 55. By checking through the centuries you reach the last occurrence off a citizen with 55 points like you (http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album?cmd=show-century¢ury=28). So for the purpose of the tax you will be assessed as though you were in century 28 (as per the edict it being the highest occurrence of a similar placement of someone with the same points and thus avoids accusations of unfairness to use the highest occurrence).

Century 28 falls into the third class and the rate for the third class is $25 USD. So the rate for this year’s tax for you would be $25 USD.

Optime vale.


From: William Dowie
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:42 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the lowest rate?

G. Quinctius Flamininus

________________________________
From: luciaiuliaaquila <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila%40hotmail.com>
To: mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.



Salve, et salvete omnes,

1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album

2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.

3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your tax is $9

Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.

Hope this is clear;)

Vale, et valete,

Julia

--- In mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@...> wrote:
>
> Salve/Salvete!
>
> This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?
>
> C. Laelius Silvanus
>
> --- In mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> >
> > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> >
> > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
> >
> > Optime valete
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> >
> > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> >
> > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> >
> > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> >
> > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
> >
> > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
> >
> > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> >
> > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> >
> > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> >
> > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> >
> > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> >
> > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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Salvete omnes. Hello listeners.
Welcome to Nova Roma News Radio, broadcasting to you from the eternal city.

Today is day six of the Ludi Novi Romani, so its semi-final day. Our next program features the second semi-final race. Our reporter, Caeso Tarquinius Scipio, is down at the Circus Maximus – so come in Scipio!

Yes, Salvete omnes, hello everybody and welcome back to the races. Its ideal weather for racing, today, and we have another great race coming up. The four drivers are Eudoxius driving Mellivora Capensis owned by Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix in Praesina colours, that very exciting young military auriga, Spero of Rome driving Elpidius for L. Iulia Aquila of Albata, and they're up against Hirtius driving Flamma owned by Aulus Vitellius Celsus for Russata, and Stolo driving Incitatus for C Petronius Dexter, representing Veneta. Stolo gave us a fine display in the quarter finals, so anything could happen in this next race.

The crowds are out in force here today, and you should see the colours splashed along the stands. All the factions have tunics in their house colours, and they've armed themselves with streamers and pom-poms, and it looks like they've been practicing their cheer routines. Each of the four factions have a team running in this race, so everyone is going to have good reason to cheer loudly.

The teams are ready in the stalls, the gates are closed ready for the start, and yes, here comes V. Valerius Volusus with the mappa ready to send them off. He holds it high to get full attention, lets it fall, the gates spring open and they're away.

Its a good clean start, they're all powering down to the first straight, in a tight bunch still at the moment, but Eudoxius seems to be just slightly in front. Sulla will be pleased that his team are showing their worth, and now Stolo and Spero are closing up to fight for second place. Hirtius is beginning to move up – his strong horses will move very fast on the straights.

Down the straight they go, picking up speed, looking for openings. Stolo has moved up to take on Spero before the turn, he wants to get the best line while he has time, and Hirtius is on the outside – he's taking a chance that he can cut across while they're still on the straight. He'll need a bit more speed – but his team is giving him what he demands, and he's ahead of Spero and challenging Stolo for second place. They're right on the turn now, Eudoxius in the lead, then Stolo and Hirtius side by side, and Spero right on their heels. Hirtius is really taking an early chance here, and they're side by side as they go into the turn. Hirtius looks as if he's got the speed to take Stolo, but Stolo has the advantage of the nearside.

They're all out of sight at the moment, but as they come back into view its Eudoxius still in the lead, but its Hirtius in second place, Hirtius has managed to keep up the pressure right round the curve and force Stolo back into third place. Stolo is not going to be happy about that. As they start down the straight its Stolo going all out to get second place back. A real race has developed between Stolo and Hirtius, and the crowds are urging them on. Just look at them go, They're glaring at each other, gritting their teeth, pushing their teams forward, firing their whips. The thunder of hooves and roar of the wheels is driving the crowd mad, they're yelling in delight as these two roar down the straight. This is where Hirtius should have the advantage, but Stolo is holding his own, and they're beginning to move up on Eudoxius. He's looking behind him and putting on a bit more speed. He wants to stop them catching him before he reaches the turn. Spero is still in last place.

As they reach the turn its Eudoxius, then Stolo and Hirtius neck and neck, and now Spero beginning to move up. It looks as if there'll be a fight on this turn, Stolo and Hirtius both want to get to the inside, lets see how they come out.

And here they come, Eudoxius still in the lead, Hirtius just ahead of Stolo but only by a whisker, and Spero right on their heels. My goodness, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be such a fast race, with action all the way. Hirtius has seized his chance to show his speed on this straight. He's immediately closing on Eudoxius, leaving Stolo falling behind,and as the markers fall they're neck and neck. And now Spero is moving up on Stolo, that rig really is moving well, with dust flying up from the hooves and wheels as they storm up the straight. I can see L. Iulia Aquila and her party jumping up to get a closer view, and its the turn of the Albata fans to bellow their support. The noise is deafening, oh the excitement, just look at that rig go! They're changing position so fast I can hardly keep up. Its Eudoxius from Hirtus, then Spero has passed Stolo, but there is almost nothing between them.

Eudoxius will just get to the turn first, with Hirtius and Spero both trying to get onto the inside, and Stolo right behind. They're out of sight for the moment, but there is a lot of noise and dust, and some loud gasps from those down at the end of the circus. I;m straining to see who will come out first – wait, that's Spero, Spero has taken the lead, Eudoxius and Hirtus are side by side right behind him, and Stolo is trying to take third place.

Now its into the straight, and this is where Hirtius will want to make a bid to move up. But no, its Stolo who has recovered best from that turn – he must have deliberately held clear, and all three rigs, Stolo, Hirtius and Eudoxius are now neck and neck, with Spero in the lead. And now its Stolo and Hirtius moving clear from Eudoxius – I can see Sulla getting very hot under his collar and making threatening – perhaps I should say encouraging – signs at Eudoxius. It seems to be working, Eudoxius has pulled back into line with the other two, and all three rigs are now racing neck and neck down the straight. Spero is only just ahead as they reach the turn, Hirtius is on the inside with a good line, Stolo is almost inside his traces, and Eudoxius is being pushed out to the right.

Round they come, and its Spero in the lead, then Hirtius and Stolo and a lot of screeching and groaning of wood and metal going on, then Eudoxius still keeping wide but holding his ground. It looks as if Stolo is having problems with his steering, he is having to haul his team off to the right in order to steer a straight course. Eudoxius has seen that, and has charged towards him, bumping Stolo towards the spina. The markers fall, and Stolo is right up against the spina, That's a lot of crashing and grinding, and Stolo is taking damage. He's managed to pull out, but Eudoxius is straight back into him, back he goes into the spina, and again he pulls out. That rig won't take much more of this, but Stolo refuses to give up. He's desperate to get clear of Eudoxius, but Hirtius is too close in front. He can't pull far enough to the right to get past Hirtius, and he doesn't have enough speed. He's suddenly slowed his team, Eudoxius has rushed past into third place, and Stolo is trying to stabilise his rig.

Spero is nearly at the turn, with Hirtius and now Eudoxius right on his tail. Stolo has managed to get a bit more control, but is in last place and in a poor line for the turn. I can just see Eudoxius wedging himself into the left side and trying to push Hirtius out – if he doesn't crash himself he could move up a place here. He fires his whip time after time, and Hirtius gives ground.

As they come out of the turn its Spero, then Eudoxius, then Hirtius and Stolo in the rear. Spero and Eudoxius are making a break now, charging down the straight, whips firing, wheels clashing, hooves thundering, the crowd are completely out of control and are baying for blood here. Everyone is on his feet, no one can sit when there is this amount of excitement. This is a race that will go down in the record books, and everyone here will have tales to tell their families and neighbours when they get back home.

Eudoxius is just in the lead, there's not much in it – a whisker I'd say, but he's determined not to lose this chance. A glance over at Sulla confirms that failure is not an option here. The whips fire again, Spero is being stung by whipcord, but he doesn't flinch, his head is down, he grits his teeth, he roars at his team and they go neck and neck towards the turn.

Meanwhile at the back of the field its Stolo making a surprising bid to catch Hirtius. His rig seems to have held together despite the odds, and he is slowly moving up. Hirtius is blocking him, but suddenly Hirtius has moved too far right, and Stolo is going to wedge himself in to the spina to overtake. This looks like a desperate move, Hirtius pulls back hard to the left, he bumps Stolo, the wheels crash, Stolo bounces off the spina and back out into Hirtius, pieces of wood and canvas fly, Stolo has lost control, he pulls hard on his right, but the rig won't turn, the right hand wheel is shattered, he's going down on the right, he's over, he's finished, he chops his knife through the reins and throws himself clear. Out race the wrecking crew, catch the horses, pick up Stolo who is bruised but still standing, and throw ropes round the wreckage. That was a brave drive by Stolo, he gave his all against impossible odds at the end there, but sadly he could not survive those crashes.

Up at the front Eudoxius and Spero are disappearing round the turn, and Hirtius is now clear to catch up if he can. His tactics for this race were to move fast on the straight, and hurry in the final laps, but has he left it too late? Well, he's certainly going for it, hurtling down the straight in pursuit of the leaders, they've disappeared on the turn and Hirtius is still on the straight. I think its going to be too late for him. Coming out of the turn now its Eudoxius from Spero, not much between them still, and no sign of Hirtius yet. Wait, here he comes, he had a clear run on the turn so got a perfect line and has saved precious seconds. Now he has the straight ahead of him, no one in his way, he is designed for speed and he gives it everything he's got, Spero looks back in amazement at the rig closing up behind them. But its all too late, they are too close to the line, Eudoxius demands every last ounce of stamina from his team, Spero's team are right alongside, and Hirtius is right on their heels.

It's almost to close to call, but the results show that at the line, as the markers go down for the last time, its Eudoxius just clear from Spero, and Hirtius close behind. I can see much rejoicing in the Sulla and Iulia Aquila camps as they prepare for parties tonight before the final contest tomorrow,

Stolo is bandaged but unbowed, but his chariot, Incitatus will need a complete rebuild.

And so that's the last race we have here today, but we'll be back here tomorrow for the finals. Be sure to join us then.

And now back to the studio.

Valete omnes

Salve Quinti Flaminine!

Good to see you on the ML!

You are in century 51 which is capite censi You will then pay the lowest rate of taxes and your century will be reassigned according to century points you may have earned etc.

Vale bene,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, William Dowie <swjagatai@...> wrote:
>
> OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the lowest rate?
>
> G. Quinctius Flamininus
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
>
>  
> Salve, et salvete omnes,
>
> 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
>
> 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
>
> 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your tax is $9
>
> Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
>
> Hope this is clear;)
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Julia
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve/Salvete!
> >
> > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?
> >
> > C. Laelius Silvanus
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > >
> > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
> > >
> > > Optime valete
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > >
> > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > >
> > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> > >
> > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > >
> > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > >
> > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
> > >
> > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
> > >
> > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
> > >
> > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > >
> > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > >
> > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > >
> > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > >
> > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> > >
> > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > >
> > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Salve Quinti!

And so I stand corrected by our Consul because you are a longtime citizen!

Vale bene

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
>
> Cn. Caesar C. Quinctio sal.
>
> I posted an edict that covers this. The CFO (Sulla) will check out how many century points you have. I will step through the process.
>
> More for others benefit that yours (as you are a long time citizen and likely know this), you access your century points my looking yourself up in the Album civium and clicking on details. Your century point total is 55. By checking through the centuries you reach the last occurrence off a citizen with 55 points like you (http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album?cmd=show-century¢ury=28). So for the purpose of the tax you will be assessed as though you were in century 28 (as per the edict it being the highest occurrence of a similar placement of someone with the same points and thus avoids accusations of unfairness to use the highest occurrence).
>
> Century 28 falls into the third class and the rate for the third class is $25 USD. So the rate for this year’s tax for you would be $25 USD.
>
> Optime vale.
>
>
> From: William Dowie
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:42 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
>
> OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the lowest rate?
>
> G. Quinctius Flamininus
>
> ________________________________
> From: luciaiuliaaquila <mailto:luciaiuliaaquila%40hotmail.com>
> To: mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
>
>
> Salve, et salvete omnes,
>
> 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
>
> 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
>
> 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your tax is $9
>
> Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
>
> Hope this is clear;)
>
> Vale, et valete,
>
> Julia
>
> --- In mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@> wrote:
> >
> > Salve/Salvete!
> >
> > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know what tax class one is in?
> >
> > C. Laelius Silvanus
> >
> > --- In mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > >
> > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765 .A.U.C. (2012).
> > >
> > > Optime valete
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > >
> > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765 A.U.C.
> > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > >
> > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes, using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> > >
> > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > >
> > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50 cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > >
> > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal account.
> > >
> > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will be specified by the CFO.
> > >
> > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be specified by the CFO.
> > >
> > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > >
> > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > >
> > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > >
> > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods, will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > >
> > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case basis.
> > >
> > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > >
> > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Caesar Iuliae sal.

No, he will be assessed by virtue of his century points as per the edict. In other words, what he would have paid had he been assidui all along, taking the highest incidence of someone with 55 century points as I explained to him just now. The Senatus consultum did not cover century 51 citizens. The edict does.

Optime vale

From: luciaiuliaaquila
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:24 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.



Salve Quinti Flaminine!

Good to see you on the ML!

You are in century 51 which is capite censi You will then pay the lowest rate of taxes and your century will be reassigned according to century points you may have earned etc.

Vale bene,

Julia




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Caesar Iuliae sal.

To clear up any confusion my reference to him being a long time citizen may have caused, this was in reference to him accessing the details of his century points from the album page. I assume he knows this, but other newer citizens may not. Maybe even some older citizens don’t! His length of citizenship has nothing to do with his tax payment.

Optime vale

From: luciaiuliaaquila
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:30 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


Salve Quinti!

And so I stand corrected by our Consul because you are a longtime citizen!

Vale bene

Julia




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Ave backatcha!

> ROFLMAO!!!!!! Oh no....see you're trying to get me not just moderated but
> banned from the ML!

Naw, just testing your word skills:)

>I see you plotting away!

Moi?;)

>Good try! Good try indeed!

I aim to please! *laughs* just want to keep you on your toes!

Vale,

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave!
>
> Yes for taxes. LOL
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!!! Oh no....see you're trying to get me not just moderated but
> banned from the ML! I see you plotting away!
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Ave Sulla
> >
> > *laughs*. Didn't I see somewhere that you gave out your phone number and
> > you are available 24/7? That must be woven into the jokes. Do I feel a
> > parody comIng on?
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Julia
> >
> > Sent from my iphone4
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Can I just say this is such a joke thread that is just straining to come
> > > out......I'm really trying to keep this on the back alley but
> > > but....but.....the jokes there are thousands of them!!!!!
> > >
> > > Vale,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jean-François Arnoud
> > > <jfarnoud94@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
> > > >
> > > > > Domina
> > > > > Married women only, with or without children.
> > > >
> > > > No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may called
> > the
> > > > woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of
> > Catullus,
> > > > Ovid... This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became the
> > > > title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married woman
> > is
> > > > said "uxor".
> > > >
> > > > > But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has slaves or
> > is
> > > > "boss."
> > > >
> > > > Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves.
> > They
> > > > are not their "boss".
> > > >
> > > > > So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as Albata
> > boss;)
> > > >
> > > > The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
> > > >
> > > > > Virgo
> > > > > Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are
> > therefore
> > > > considered Virgo.- unless they are
> > > > > concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used.
> > Praetrix
> > > > Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.
> > > >
> > > > Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word "puella" who
> > > > means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for the
> > > > lovers. :o)
> > > >
> > > > >Feminae
> > > > >Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I,
> > Magistra
> > > > and Aeternia;))
> > > >
> > > > Mulieres is better.
> > > > Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck) is
> > > > always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means duck,
> > if
> > > > you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas.
> > > >
> > > > Valete optime,
> > > >
> > > > C. Petronius Dexter
> > > > Arcoiali scribebat
> > > > pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ave!

Respectfully, no that is not correct. The Consul just posted on this. I
would refer you back to his post.

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Salve Quinti Flaminine!
>
> Good to see you on the ML!
>
> You are in century 51 which is capite censi You will then pay the lowest
> rate of taxes and your century will be reassigned according to century
> points you may have earned etc.
>
> Vale bene,
>
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, William Dowie <swjagatai@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so
> now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the lowest
> rate?
> >
> > G. Quinctius Flamininus
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@...>
>
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX
> FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> >
> > �
> > Salve, et salvete omnes,
> >
> > 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> > http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
> >
> > 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your
> name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
> >
> > 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII
> (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your
> tax is $9
> >
> > Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
> >
> > Hope this is clear;)
> >
> > Vale, et valete,
> >
> > Julia
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Salve/Salvete!
> > >
> > > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know
> what tax class one is in?
> > >
> > > C. Laelius Silvanus
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > > >
> > > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765
> .A.U.C. (2012).
> > > >
> > > > Optime valete
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > > >
> > > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765
> A.U.C.
> > > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > > >
> > > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes,
> using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de
> comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > > Class 1 rate �����" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > > Class 2 rate �����" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > > Class 3 rate �����" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > > Class 4 rate �����" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > > Class 5 rate �����" Centuries 46 to 50
>
> > > >
> > > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > > >
> > > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be
> calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a
> citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50
> cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > > >
> > > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is
> deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted
> it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the
> full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui
> until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal
> account.
> > > >
> > > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will
> be specified by the CFO.
> > > >
> > > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be
> specified by the CFO.
> > > >
> > > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May
> 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount
> specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in
> century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and
> payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > > >
> > > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable
> for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and
> September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable
> as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount
> specified at X.A for class I.
> > > >
> > > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable
> for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st
> and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the
> amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > > >
> > > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November
> 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and
> payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods,
> will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and
> payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > > >
> > > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for
> 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the
> discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case
> basis.
> > > >
> > > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > > >
> > > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova
> Roma.
> > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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Cn. Caesar Cn Lentulo sal.

The only arrears we will collect on will be last year’s. I have spoken with the CFO on this. I will issue an edict to that effect shortly so everyone knows where they stand and there are no disputes. Otherwise it will get far too confusing and prohibitive.

Optime vale


From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:32 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


Cn. Lentulus M. Pompeio et omnibus sal.

>>> If that citizen had failed to pay taxes in previous years he or she

should make arrangements with the CFO to pay those back taxes. <<<

If I read your message correctly, does it mean that a person who was capite census and wishes to be assiduus this year had to pay all the taxes retroactively, for all past years when he was capite census?

I direct this question not to you, but to anybody who knows the answer.

Vale!




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Ave!

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:35 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ave backatcha!
>
>
> > ROFLMAO!!!!!! Oh no....see you're trying to get me not just moderated but
> > banned from the ML!
>
> Naw, just testing your word skills:)
>

Now everyone that believes that..raise your hand! ROFL!!!!

>
>
> >I see you plotting away!
>
> Moi?;)
>
>

Yeah you! ;) hehehe

>
> >Good try! Good try indeed!
>
> I aim to please! *laughs* just want to keep you on your toes!
>

LOL oh sure....hehehe just for my own benefit heheheheheh ;)

Vale and take care!

Sulla

>
> Vale,
>
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ave!
> >
> > Yes for taxes. LOL
> >
> > ROFLMAO!!!!!! Oh no....see you're trying to get me not just moderated but
> > banned from the ML! I see you plotting away!
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> > luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Ave Sulla
> > >
> > > *laughs*. Didn't I see somewhere that you gave out your phone number
> and
> > > you are available 24/7? That must be woven into the jokes. Do I feel a
> > > parody comIng on?
> > >
> > > Vale
> > >
> > > Julia
> > >
> > > Sent from my iphone4
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can I just say this is such a joke thread that is just straining to
> come
> > > > out......I'm really trying to keep this on the back alley but
> > > > but....but.....the jokes there are thousands of them!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Vale,
> > > >
> > > > Sulla
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jean-Fran�ois Arnoud
> > > > <jfarnoud94@>wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > C. Petronius Iuliae Aquilae Quiritibusque salutem,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Domina
> > > > > > Married women only, with or without children.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. Domina has a meaning of sovereign, mastress... A lover may
> called
> > > the
> > > > > woman that he loves "domina". You may read that in the poems of
> > > Catullus,
> > > > > Ovid... This is also the title of the empress when Dominus became
> the
> > > > > title of the emperors. Domina is not for married women. Married
> woman
> > > is
> > > > > said "uxor".
> > > > >
> > > > > > But as Petronius pointed out this also means the woman has
> slaves or
> > > is
> > > > > "boss."
> > > > >
> > > > > Not "boss". Domina and (h)era are the owners, mastresses of slaves.
> > > They
> > > > > are not their "boss".
> > > > >
> > > > > > So i may continue to use this during the Ludi in my role as
> Albata
> > > boss;)
> > > > >
> > > > > The boss of a factio is rather a "magistra" than a "domina".
> > > > >
> > > > > > Virgo
> > > > > > Refers to unmarried women who have never been married and are
> > > therefore
> > > > > considered Virgo.- unless they are
> > > > > > concubines or prostitutes - then the label that fits is used.
> > > Praetrix
> > > > > Aeternia and Censor Scholastica fit this category.
> > > > >
> > > > > Virgo is for virgin, not only unmarried. You have the word
> "puella" who
> > > > > means women not virgo but young, and one of the favorite word for
> the
> > > > > lovers. :o)
> > > > >
> > > > > >Feminae
> > > > > >Refers to any female. Aedile Maria fits this category (as do I,
> > > Magistra
> > > > > and Aeternia;))
> > > > >
> > > > > Mulieres is better.
> > > > > Femina is mostly for the feminine gender. For example, anas (duck)
> is
> > > > > always feminine in Latin, like many names of birds, but it means
> duck,
> > > if
> > > > > you want to precise "female duck" you may say femina anas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Valete optime,
> > > > >
> > > > > C. Petronius Dexter
> > > > > Arcoiali scribebat
> > > > > pridie Nonas Martias Cn. Caesare C. Tullio coss.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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Iulia Caesari sal,

I understand and stand corrected however there is correlation between length of citizenship and century points ergo a longtime citizen has more. So, forgive me for being redundant, a cive who has been a citizen for a few years and who has not paid taxes should contact out CFO, Sulla.

To clarify further new citizens pay tax at the lowest rate.


Vale bene

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
>
> Caesar Iuliae sal.
>
> To clear up any confusion my reference to him being a long time citizen may have caused, this was in reference to him accessing the details of his century points from the album page. I assume he knows this, but other newer citizens may not. Maybe even some older citizens don’t! His length of citizenship has nothing to do with his tax payment.
>
> Optime vale
>
> From: luciaiuliaaquila
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:30 PM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
>
> Salve Quinti!
>
> And so I stand corrected by our Consul because you are a longtime citizen!
>
> Vale bene
>
> Julia
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ave!

That is correct. This is why I gave both my email address and phone number
to anyone who has any questions. I am here to help. I have the tax
records from last year as well, given that I would say just about any
question someone might have regarding their tax payment, I can answer it.

And let me give my contact info again:

Email- robert.woolwine@...
phone 4805672265
Yahoo id - robertcw72

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:43 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Iulia Caesari sal,
>
> I understand and stand corrected however there is correlation between
> length of citizenship and century points ergo a longtime citizen has more.
> So, forgive me for being redundant, a cive who has been a citizen for a few
> years and who has not paid taxes should contact out CFO, Sulla.
>
> To clarify further new citizens pay tax at the lowest rate.
>
> Vale bene
>
> Julia
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
> >
> > Caesar Iuliae sal.
> >
> > To clear up any confusion my reference to him being a long time citizen
> may have caused, this was in reference to him accessing the details of his
> century points from the album page. I assume he knows this, but other newer
> citizens may not. Maybe even some older citizens don���t! His length of
> citizenship has nothing to do with his tax payment.
>
> >
> > Optime vale
> >
> > From: luciaiuliaaquila
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:30 PM
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX
> FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> >
> > Salve Quinti!
> >
> > And so I stand corrected by our Consul because you are a longtime
> citizen!
> >
> > Vale bene
> >
> > Julia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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Ave Sulla,

Darn are you slow today! I was already corrected then admitted the error of my ways, groveled an apology (not really:))
And here again you tore open the wound once more! Oh the shame!
*laughs*

Gotta be a little quicker on the uptake!

Vale bene

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave!
>
> Respectfully, no that is not correct. The Consul just posted on this. I
> would refer you back to his post.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Sulla
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Salve Quinti Flaminine!
> >
> > Good to see you on the ML!
> >
> > You are in century 51 which is capite censi You will then pay the lowest
> > rate of taxes and your century will be reassigned according to century
> > points you may have earned etc.
> >
> > Vale bene,
> >
> > Julia
> >
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, William Dowie <swjagatai@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so
> > now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the lowest
> > rate?
> > >
> > > G. Quinctius Flamininus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@>
> >
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
> > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX
> > FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Salve, et salvete omnes,
> > >
> > > 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> > > http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
> > >
> > > 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find your
> > name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
> > >
> > > 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century VIII
> > (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so your
> > tax is $9
> > >
> > > Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
> > >
> > > Hope this is clear;)
> > >
> > > Vale, et valete,
> > >
> > > Julia
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Salve/Salvete!
> > > >
> > > > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know
> > what tax class one is in?
> > > >
> > > > C. Laelius Silvanus
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> > <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765
> > .A.U.C. (2012).
> > > > >
> > > > > Optime valete
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > > > >
> > > > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for 2765
> > A.U.C.
> > > > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > > > >
> > > > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following classes,
> > using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia altera de
> > comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > > > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > > > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > > > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > > > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > > > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > > > >
> > > > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal must be
> > calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the tax a
> > citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50
> > cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > > > >
> > > > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is
> > deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who remitted
> > it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have paid the
> > full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the assidui
> > until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman PayPal
> > account.
> > > > >
> > > > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to will
> > be specified by the CFO.
> > > > >
> > > > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be
> > specified by the CFO.
> > > > >
> > > > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by May
> > 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the amount
> > specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen is in
> > century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax due and
> > payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > > > >
> > > > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable
> > for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and
> > September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and payable
> > as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount
> > specified at X.A for class I.
> > > > >
> > > > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and payable
> > for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October 1st
> > and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> > payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double the
> > amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > > > >
> > > > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November
> > 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due and
> > payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax periods,
> > will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and
> > payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > > > >
> > > > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for
> > 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the
> > discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual case-by-case
> > basis.
> > > > >
> > > > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > > > >
> > > > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova
> > Roma.
> > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on Taxation
> > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Ave!

Yeah well....thats what I get for talking to the Consul on Gtalk at the
same time....lol ;) Just let the wound fester just a bit more...I am
sure someone else might come along and correct ya again! hehehehehehhe ;)

Vale,

Sula

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ave Sulla,
>
> Darn are you slow today! I was already corrected then admitted the error
> of my ways, groveled an apology (not really:))
> And here again you tore open the wound once more! Oh the shame!
> *laughs*
>
> Gotta be a little quicker on the uptake!
>
> Vale bene
>
> Julia
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ave!
> >
> > Respectfully, no that is not correct. The Consul just posted on this. I
> > would refer you back to his post.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Sulla
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> > luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Salve Quinti Flaminine!
> > >
> > > Good to see you on the ML!
> > >
> > > You are in century 51 which is capite censi You will then pay the
> lowest
> > > rate of taxes and your century will be reassigned according to century
> > > points you may have earned etc.
> > >
> > > Vale bene,
> > >
> > > Julia
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, William Dowie <swjagatai@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so
> > > now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the
> lowest
> > > rate?
> > > >
> > > > G. Quinctius Flamininus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@>
> > >
> > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
> > > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL
> TAX
> > > FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > �
> > > > Salve, et salvete omnes,
> > > >
> > > > 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> > > > http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
> > > >
> > > > 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find
> your
> > > name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
> > > >
> > > > 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century
> VIII
> > > (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so
> your
> > > tax is $9
> > > >
> > > > Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this is clear;)
> > > >
> > > > Vale, et valete,
> > > >
> > > > Julia
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Salve/Salvete!
> > > > >
> > > > > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know
> > > what tax class one is in?
> > > > >
> > > > > C. Laelius Silvanus
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> > > <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765
> > > .A.U.C. (2012).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Optime valete
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for
> 2765
> > > A.U.C.
> > > > > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > > > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > > > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > > > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > > > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following
> classes,
> > > using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia
> altera de
> > > comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > > > > Class 1 rate �����" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > > > > Class 2 rate �����" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > > > > Class 3 rate �����" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > > > > Class 4 rate �����" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > > > > Class 5 rate �����" Centuries 46 to 50
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal
> must be
> > > calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the
> tax a
> > > citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50
> > > cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is
> > > deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who
> remitted
> > > it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have
> paid the
> > > full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the
> assidui
> > > until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman
> PayPal
> > > account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to
> will
> > > be specified by the CFO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be
> > > specified by the CFO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by
> May
> > > 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the
> amount
> > > specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen
> is in
> > > century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax
> due and
> > > payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and
> payable
> > > for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and
> > > September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> payable
> > > as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount
> > > specified at X.A for class I.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and
> payable
> > > for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October
> 1st
> > > and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> > > payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double
> the
> > > amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November
> > > 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due
> and
> > > payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax
> periods,
> > > will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and
> > > payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for
> > > 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the
> > > discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual
> case-by-case
> > > basis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of
> Nova
> > > Roma.
> > > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > > > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > > > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on
> Taxation
> > > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > > > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
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Caesar Iuliae sal.

In the sense that you accumulate century points up to 50 months I believe for just being a citizen, yes there is a link. Anyone who didn’t pay for last year and who wants to pay should indeed contact Sulla, 24/7 (lol). We are only going to collect back to last year because the records before that are sparse and not under his control, so it is safest only to go to the point Sulla was appointed CFO and has records from.

Naturally if someone wanted to make a donation on top of that for any missed years, well that would be voluntary.

Brand new citizens who have not held any offices yet and have minimal century points would pay at the lowest rate as they would would fall into the 5th class simply by virtue of being so new and not having accrued many points. We need to be careful over the definition of new, so everyone who hasn’t paid (for whatever reason) can contact Sulla, new or old citizens, so they can have it straight from the man himself.

Optime vale


From: luciaiuliaaquila
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:43 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.


Iulia Caesari sal,

I understand and stand corrected however there is correlation between length of citizenship and century points ergo a longtime citizen has more. So, forgive me for being redundant, a cive who has been a citizen for a few years and who has not paid taxes should contact out CFO, Sulla.

To clarify further new citizens pay tax at the lowest rate.

Vale bene

Julia

--- In mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar" <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
>
> Caesar Iuliae sal.
>
> To clear up any confusion my reference to him being a long time citizen may have caused, this was in reference to him accessing the details of his century points from the album page. I assume he knows this, but other newer citizens may not. Maybe even some older citizens don’t! His length of citizenship has nothing to do with his tax payment.
>
> Optime vale
>
> From: luciaiuliaaquila
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:30 PM
> To: mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
>
> Salve Quinti!
>
> And so I stand corrected by our Consul because you are a longtime citizen!
>
> Vale bene
>
> Julia
>
>
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Ave

*laughs* That was my first thought when I saw Caesar's correction - a wave of corrections should be coming through as the day-sleepers awake and folks get home from work - tomorrow it will be the Europeans turn *sigh* Oh well at least I will get attention;)

Or not. Because I think anyone who knew anything has already spoken (those inclined to speak that is)

Woe it me, woe is me!

Vale optime

Julia

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...> wrote:
>
> Ave!
>
> Yeah well....thats what I get for talking to the Consul on Gtalk at the
> same time....lol ;) Just let the wound fester just a bit more...I am
> sure someone else might come along and correct ya again! hehehehehehhe ;)
>
> Vale,
>
> Sula
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> luciaiuliaaquila@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Ave Sulla,
> >
> > Darn are you slow today! I was already corrected then admitted the error
> > of my ways, groveled an apology (not really:))
> > And here again you tore open the wound once more! Oh the shame!
> > *laughs*
> >
> > Gotta be a little quicker on the uptake!
> >
> > Vale bene
> >
> > Julia
> >
> > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ave!
> > >
> > > Respectfully, no that is not correct. The Consul just posted on this. I
> > > would refer you back to his post.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, luciaiuliaaquila <
> > > luciaiuliaaquila@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Salve Quinti Flaminine!
> > > >
> > > > Good to see you on the ML!
> > > >
> > > > You are in century 51 which is capite censi You will then pay the
> > lowest
> > > > rate of taxes and your century will be reassigned according to century
> > > > points you may have earned etc.
> > > >
> > > > Vale bene,
> > > >
> > > > Julia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, William Dowie <swjagatai@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I have never paid Nova Roma taxes before and I am going to do so
> > > > now. My century is LI, which isn't listed, do I then just pay at the
> > lowest
> > > > rate?
> > > > >
> > > > > G. Quinctius Flamininus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: luciaiuliaaquila <luciaiuliaaquila@>
> > > >
> > > > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL
> > TAX
> > > > FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Salve, et salvete omnes,
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Log into the album civium (or you can just go to it):
> > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) input your name (nomen or cognomen) in the field and then find
> > your
> > > > name and click on it, this will bring you to your photo and info.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3)Look at your "Century" for your numbers, for example I am Century
> > VIII
> > > > (8) and in class 1 my tax is $42, you are XLIX (49) and in class 5 so
> > your
> > > > tax is $9
> > > > >
> > > > > Taxes are due May 31st, after that there is a penalty.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this is clear;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale, et valete,
> > > > >
> > > > > Julia
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "C. Laelius Silvanus" <scipio1108@
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Salve/Salvete!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This may sound like a really stupid question, but how does one know
> > > > what tax class one is in?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C. Laelius Silvanus
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> > > > <gn_iulius_caesar@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cn Iulius Caesar consul sal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please find details of the annual tax rates for the year 2765
> > > > .A.U.C. (2012).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Optime valete
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I. The Senate establishes the following as the annual tax for
> > 2765
> > > > A.U.C.
> > > > > > > Class 1 rate - $42.00
> > > > > > > Class 2 rate - $34.00
> > > > > > > Class 3 rate - $25.00
> > > > > > > Class 4 rate - $17.00
> > > > > > > Class 5 rate - $ 9.00
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > II. The following centuries shall fall into the following
> > classes,
> > > > using the percentages specified at section III of the Lex Octavia
> > altera de
> > > > comitiis centuriatis as a guide.
> > > > > > > Class 1 rate â€" Centuries 1 to 15
> > > > > > > Class 2 rate â€" Centuries 16 to 27
> > > > > > > Class 3 rate â€" Centuries 28 to 37
> > > > > > > Class 4 rate â€" Centuries 38 to 45
> > > > > > > Class 5 rate â€" Centuries 46 to 50
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > III. All taxes for 2765 A.U.C. must be remitted by PayPal:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A. In respect of IX.A all transaction fees charged by PayPal
> > must be
> > > > calculated into the payment sent to Nova Roma, so for example if the
> > tax a
> > > > citizen has to pay is $10.00 USD and the PayPal transaction fee is 50
> > > > cents, then the citizen must remit $10.50 USD.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > B. If an amount of money less than the exact amount of tax due is
> > > > deposited in the Nova Roman PayPal account, then the citizen who
> > remitted
> > > > it, or the citizen on whose behalf it was remitted, shall not have
> > paid the
> > > > full amount of tax due and shall not be classified as one of the
> > assidui
> > > > until the full amount due is remitted and received in the Nova Roman
> > PayPal
> > > > account.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > C. The PayPal account which the annual tax must be remitted to
> > will
> > > > be specified by the CFO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > D. The other details required on the PayPal transaction will be
> > > > specified by the CFO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IV. The annual tax for 2765 A.U.C. is due and payable in full by
> > May
> > > > 31st of 2765 A.U.C. The amount a citizen has to pay is equal to the
> > amount
> > > > specified at X.A for the class he/she is in. For example if a citizen
> > is in
> > > > century 22, and century 22 is specified as in class II then the tax
> > due and
> > > > payable by the citizen is equal to that for class II.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > V. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and
> > payable
> > > > for 2765 A.U.C. by May 31st of 2765 A.U.C. then between June 1st and
> > > > September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> > payable
> > > > as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus the amount
> > > > specified at X.A for class I.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > VI. If a citizen fails to pay in full the annual tax due and
> > payable
> > > > for 2765 A.U.C. by September 30th of 2765 A.U.C. then between October
> > 1st
> > > > and October 31st of of 2765 A.U.C. he/she shall pay the amount due and
> > > > payable as at XIV, less any partial payments already made, plus double
> > the
> > > > amount specified at X.A for class I.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > VII. No payments of the annual tax will be accepted from November
> > > > 1st to December 31st of 2765 A.U.C. All arrears of the annual tax due
> > and
> > > > payable for a particular year, plus any arrears on previous tax
> > periods,
> > > > will carry over into tax period for of 2766 A.U.C. and remain due and
> > > > payable, in addition to the annual tax due for 2766 A.U.C.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > VIII. Payment arrangements of the annual tax due and payable for
> > > > 2765 A.U.C. and/or arrears owing from previous tax periods are at the
> > > > discretion of the CFO and must be negotiated on an individual
> > case-by-case
> > > > basis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IX. The following Senatus consulta are repealed:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A. Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of
> > Nova
> > > > Roma.
> > > > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2000-11-09-vii.html
> > > > > > > B. Senatvs Consvlta Taxation
> > > > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-viii.html
> > > > > > > C. Senatvs Consvltvm - Modification to Senatus Consultum on
> > Taxation
> > > > > > > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-01-05-v.html
> > > > > > > D. ITEM IV. Annual Membership Fee Rate Adjustment
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2002-11-09-results.html
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Ave!

I want to just add some info here that I will be posting regular reminders
to the NR lists. Reminding the tax and my contact information. So, if
anyone has any questions no one could say they didnt have an opportunity to
get their questions answered.

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <
gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Caesar Iuliae sal.
>
> In the sense that you accumulate century points up to 50 months I believe
> for just being a citizen, yes there is a link. Anyone who didn�t pay for
> last year and who wants to pay should indeed contact Sulla, 24/7 (lol). We
> are only going to collect back to last year because the records before that
> are sparse and not under his control, so it is safest only to go to the
> point Sulla was appointed CFO and has records from.
>
> Naturally if someone wanted to make a donation on top of that for any
> missed years, well that would be voluntary.
>
> Brand new citizens who have not held any offices yet and have minimal
> century points would pay at the lowest rate as they would would fall into
> the 5th class simply by virtue of being so new and not having accrued many
> points. We need to be careful over the definition of new, so everyone who
> hasn�t paid (for whatever reason) can contact Sulla, new or old citizens,
> so they can have it straight from the man himself.
>
> Optime vale
>
> From: luciaiuliaaquila
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:43 PM
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX
> FOR 2765 A.U.C.
>
> Iulia Caesari sal,
>
> I understand and stand corrected however there is correlation between
> length of citizenship and century points ergo a longtime citizen has more.
> So, forgive me for being redundant, a cive who has been a citizen for a few
> years and who has not paid taxes should contact out CFO, Sulla.
>
> To clarify further new citizens pay tax at the lowest rate.
>
> Vale bene
>
> Julia
>
> --- In mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Iulius Caesar"
> <gn_iulius_caesar@...> wrote:
> >
> > Caesar Iuliae sal.
> >
> > To clear up any confusion my reference to him being a long time citizen
> may have caused, this was in reference to him accessing the details of his
> century points from the album page. I assume he knows this, but other newer
> citizens may not. Maybe even some older citizens don���t! His length of
> citizenship has nothing to do with his tax payment.
> >
> > Optime vale
> >
> > From: luciaiuliaaquila
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:30 PM
> > To: mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE NOVA ROMAN ANNUAL TAX
> FOR 2765 A.U.C.
> >
> >
> > Salve Quinti!
> >
> > And so I stand corrected by our Consul because you are a longtime
> citizen!
> >
> > Vale bene
> >
> > Julia
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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