Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Nov 1-30, 2012

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88767 From: Gaius Petronius Dexter Date: 2012-11-01
Subject: KALENDIS NOVEMBRIBVS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88768 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-04
Subject: prid. Non. Nov.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88769 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-04
Subject: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88770 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-04
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88771 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88772 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88773 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88774 From: C. Maria Caeca Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88775 From: Jeff Craft Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Romans vs picts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88776 From: Lord Denovan Date: 2012-11-06
Subject: Re: Romans vs picts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88777 From: Chad Stricklin Date: 2012-11-06
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88778 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-06
Subject: a.d. VIII Id. Nov.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88779 From: Regilla Date: 2012-11-08
Subject: Senate Session
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88780 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-08
Subject: ad. VI Id. Nov.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88781 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-09
Subject: a.d. V Id. Nov.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88782 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-10
Subject: a.d. IV Id. Nov.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88783 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2012-11-10
Subject: Call for Lictors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88784 From: C. Maria Caeca Date: 2012-11-11
Subject: OT: Veterans Day thoughts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88785 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-12
Subject: prid. Id. Nov.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88786 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-13
Subject: IDIBUS NOVEMBRIBUS
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88787 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-14
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88788 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-14
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88789 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-14
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88790 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2012-11-16
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88791 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-16
Subject: Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles Pleb
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88792 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-21
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis a
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88793 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2012-11-21
Subject: Re: Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88794 From: C. Maria Caeca Date: 2012-11-22
Subject: Happy Holiday!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88795 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2012-11-22
Subject: Re: Happy Holiday!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88796 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2012-11-22
Subject: Re: Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88797 From: Gaius Petronius Dexter Date: 2012-11-23
Subject: test
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88798 From: James V Hooper Date: 2012-11-23
Subject: Re: test
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88799 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-26
Subject: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88800 From: tituspompeiuscorvinus@yahoo.com Date: 2012-11-26
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88801 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2012-11-26
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88802 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88803 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88804 From: tituspompeiuscorvinus@yahoo.com Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88805 From: William Dowie Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88806 From: Robert Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88807 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88808 From: Robert Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88809 From: gaius_pompeius_marcellus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: To the Consuls
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88810 From: Gaius Tullius Valerianus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88811 From: William Dowie Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88812 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88813 From: William Dowie Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88814 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Important - Please Read about Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88815 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88816 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88817 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88818 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88819 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2012-11-29
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88820 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2012-11-29
Subject: Re: Moody's
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88821 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-30
Subject: Election of Plebeian Magistrates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88822 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-30
Subject: Re: Election of Plebeian Magistrates - Contio is opened
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88823 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-30
Subject: Addition of M. Pompeius Caninus as a tribunician candidate



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88767 From: Gaius Petronius Dexter Date: 2012-11-01
Subject: KALENDIS NOVEMBRIBVS
C. Petronius Dexter Pontifex Maximus omnibus Quiritibus salutem dicit
plurimam,

Today morning, capite velato, I invoked Iuno Covella by saying the
traditional
formula:

« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »
« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »
« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »
« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »
« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »

I offered incense and saying prayers I asked the Goddess to be favorable
toward
us, the Quirites of Nova Roma.

This month the nundinal letter is "C".

The festivals to be celebrated in the month of November shall be:

NOVEMBER

1 A Kal. Nov. F
2 B a.d. IV Non.Nov. F Ater
3 C a.d. III Non.Nov. C Nundina
4 D Pr Non.Nov. C
5 E Non. Nov. F
6 F a.d. VIII Id. Nov. F Ater
7 G a.d. VII Id. Nov. C
8 H a.d. VI Id. Nov. C
9 A a.d. V Id. Nov. C
10 B a.d. IV Id. Nov. C
11 C a.d. III Id. Nov. C Nundina
12 D Pr Id. Nov. C
13 E Id. Nov. NP Epulum Iovis
14 F a.d. XVIII Kal.Dec. F Ater
15 G a.d. XVII Kal.Dec. C
16 H a.d. XVI Kal.Dec. C
17 A a.d. XV Kal.Dec. C
18 B a.d. XIV Kal.Dec. C
19 C a.d. XIII Kal.Dec. C Nundina
20 D a.d. XII Kal.Dec. C
21 E a.d. XI Kal.Dec. C
22 F a.d. X Kal.Dec. C
23 G a.d. IX Kal.Dec. C
24 H a.d. VIII Kal.Dec. C
25 A a.d. VII Kal.Dec. C
26 B a.d. VI Kal.Dec. C
27 C a.d. V Kal.Dec. C Nundina
28 D a.d. IV Kal.Dec. C
29 E a.d. III Kal.Dec. F
30 F Pr Kal.Dec. C

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At the end I poured a libation of milk thanking to the Goddess for Her
benevolence.

Optime valete.

--
C. Petronius Dexter
Pontifex Maximus Arcoiali scribebat
Kalendis Novembribus MMDCCLXV aVc.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88768 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-04
Subject: prid. Non. Nov.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

N.B. - I apologize for the lack of calendar postings; I lost power, heat, and hot water on Monday night and got power back on Friday night and heat and hot water back on Saturday night. It's been an adventure - there was a point on Tuesday that I could have gotten in a canoe at my front door and paddled to Queens - the East River came all the way up to Second Avenue :) Cato

Hodiernus dies est pridie Nones Novembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"The consuls for the following year were L. Papirius Crassus and Caeso
Duillius. There was war with the Ausonians; the fact that it was
against a new enemy rather than a formidable one made it noticeable.
This people inhabited the city of Cales, and had joined arms with
their neighbours, the Sidicines. The combined army of the two cities
was routed in a quite insignificant engagement; the proximity of their
cities made them all the sooner seek a safety in flight which they did
not find in fighting. The senate were none the less anxious about the
war, in view of the fact that the Sidicines had so frequently either
taken the aggressive themselves or assisted others to do so, or had
been the cause of hostilities. They did their utmost, therefore, to
secure the election of M. Valerius Corvus, the greatest commander of
his day, as consul for the fourth time. M. Atilius Regulus was
assigned to him as his colleague. To avoid any chance of mistake, the
consuls requested that this war might be assigned to Corvus without
deciding it by lot. After taking over the victorious army from the
previous consuls, he marched to Cales, where the war had originated.
The enemy were dispirited through the remembrance of the former
conflict, and he routed them at the very first attack. He then
advanced to an assault upon their walls. Such was the eagerness of the
soldiers that they were anxious to bring up the scaling ladders and
mount the walls forthwith, but Corvus perceived the difficulty of the
task and preferred to gain his object by submitting his men to the
labours of a regular siege rather than by exposing them to unnecessary
risks. So he constructed an agger and brought up the vineae and the
turrets close to the walls, but a fortunate circumstance rendered them
unnecessary. M. Fabius, a Roman prisoner, succeeded in eluding his
guards on a festival, and after breaking his chains fastened a rope
from a battlement of the wall and let himself down amongst the Roman
works. He induced the commander to attack the enemy while they were
sleeping off the effects of their wine and feasting, and the Ausonians
were captured, together with their city, with no more trouble than
they had previously been routed in the open field. The booty seized
was enormous, and after a garrison was placed in Cales the legions
were marched back to Rome. The senate passed a resolution allowing the
consul to celebrate a triumph, and in order that Atilius might have a
chance of distinguishing himself, both the consuls were ordered to
march against the Sidicines. Before starting they nominated, on the
resolution of the senate, L. Aemilius Mamercinus as Dictator, for the
purpose of conducting the elections; he named Q. Publilius Philo as
his Master of the Horse. The consuls elected were T. Veturius and
Spurius Postumius. Although there was still war with the Sidicines,
they brought forward a proposal to send a colony to Cales in order to
anticipate the wishes of the plebs by a voluntary act of kindness. The
senate passed a resolution that 2500 names should be enrolled, and the
three commissioners appointed to settle the colonists and allocate the
holdings were Caeso Duillius, T. Quinctius, and M. Fabius." - Livy,
History of Rome 8.16


ROMAN REPUBLICAN TERMS - AEDILE

The original tasks of the two plebeian aediles are unclear. The name
suggests that they had something to do with an aedes ("shrine"), but
the Greek translation agoranomos implies that the aedile was a market
superintendent. The discrepancy may be superficial, however, as the
Roman tradition states that the first aediles were the assistants of
the plebeian tribunes. Now the Plebs had their archives at the shrine
of Ceres on the Forum Boarium, "cattle market", So it is possible that
the first aediles were market superintendents, and as representatives
of the merchants did not belong to the aristocracy, whence they had to
side with the Plebs in the conflict of the orders. They were probably
responsible for the organization of the Plebeian Games (Ludi plebeii).

However this may be, the aediles were recognized by the Senate as
official magistrates after the reforms of the 360's BC, which found
their expression in the Lex Furia de aedilibus. In this law, a second
couple of aediles was introduced, the curule aediles ('curule'
represents the ivory chair of office upon which they sat). Their task
was to organize the Ludi Romani or Roman Games. The plebeian and
curulian aediles were elected by the Comitia tributa, an assembly of
the people that was divided into voting districts. In this assembly,
the rich people were less influential than in the Comitia centuriata.

In the third and second centuries BC, the tasks of the aediles became
more important. They had to take care of the temples, they organized
games and were responsible for the maintenance of the public buildings
in Rome. Moreover, they took charge of Rome's water and food supplies;
in their quality of market superintendents, they served sometimes as
judges in mercantile affairs. Because they controlled the games, they
exercised some influence on the freedom of speech: e.g., an actor or a
jester could not always freely say what he had in mind.

After the Lex Vibia annalis (180), a minimum age of 37 years was
required. In the first century, it became obligatory to have served as
a quaestor first. Iulius Caesar added two extra aediles, whose sole
responsibility was the food supply. Someone who had served as aedile
was electable for the praetorship.

An aedile had no bodyguard (lictor) but was allowed to wear a
purple-bordered toga.


PERSON OF THE DAY - SILVANUS

The Roman god of forests, groves and wild fields. He also presides
over boundaries. As fertility god he is the protector of herds and
cattle and is associated with Faunus. He shows many similarities with
the Greek Pan (Silvanus also liked to scare lonely travelers). The
first fruits of the fields were offered to him, as well as meat and
wine--a ritual women were not allowed to witness. His attributes are a
pruning knife and a bough from a pine tree.


Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88769 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-04
Subject: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Cn. Lentulus leg. pr. pr. Pannoniae Quiritibus sal.

Dear citizens, I report you that we have celebrated the 1st birthday of the burgus Colonia Rostallo. This local community of Nova Roma consists of Nova Roman citizens living in Borsod Abaúj Zemplén county of Hungary, Pannonia Provincia of Nova Roma.
These citizens has swore an oath as legionary soldiers of Nova Roma, forming the "Cohors VII. Carpathica", a reenactment unit of NR.
I tell you, my brothers and sisters, that this weekend, these days with days guys was more than I could express in words. They embody everything that Nova Roma is. I am very thankful for them, and I am also grateful towards the Gods that they favor Pannonia so much. It's indeed a honor to be their governor.
I have also written an anthem for this NR local group. Hear it is:
Aut Sol radiat aut surridentStellae super hanc vall(em) amabilem,Montes cum arboribus osculantmDescendit ex monte aper.
Dum montes sunt ac Sol et sidera,Plantae, aper et animalia,Protegent Rostallonem Coloniam,Protegetque Hercules eam.
Rostallo circumdata montibus,Plantis dum est et animalibus,Nova Roma ut habeat gloriam,Rostallo dabit operam.
VIVAT NOVA ROMA!VIVAT NOVA ROMA!!VIVAT NOVA ROMA!!!

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88770 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-04
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
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Cn. Lentulus leg. pr. pr. Pannoniae Quiritibus sal.

Dear citizens, I report you that we have celebrated the 1st birthday of the burgus Colonia Rostallo. This local community of Nova Roma consists of Nova Roman citizens living in Borsod Abaúj Zemplén county of Hungary, Pannonia Provincia of Nova Roma.
These citizens has swore an oath as legionary soldiers of Nova Roma, forming the "Cohors VII. Carpathica", a reenactment unit of NR.
I tell you, my brothers and sisters, that this weekend, these days with these guys were more than I could express in words. They embody everything that Nova Roma is. I am very thankful for them, and I am also grateful towards the Gods that they favor Pannonia so much. It's indeed a honor to be their governor.
I have also written an anthem for this NR local group. Hear it is:
Aut Sol radiat aut surridentStellae super hanc vall(em) amabilem,Montes cum arboribus osculantmDescendit ex monte aper.
Dum montes sunt ac Sol et sidera,Plantae, aper et animalia,Protegent Rostallonem Coloniam,Protegetque Hercules eam.
Rostallo circumdata montibus,Plantis dum est et animalibus,Nova Roma ut habeat gloriam,Rostallo dabit operam.
VIVAT NOVA ROMA!VIVAT NOVA ROMA!!VIVAT NOVA ROMA!!!

















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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88771 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
I don't know why but Yahoo created a chaos from this message, too. I do apologize.
Be well.
LENTVLVS

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Cn. Lentulus leg. pr. pr. Pannoniae Quiritibus sal.



Dear citizens, I report you that we have celebrated the 1st birthday of the burgus Colonia Rostallo. This local community of Nova Roma consists of Nova Roman citizens living in Borsod Abaúj Zemplén county of Hungary, Pannonia Provincia of Nova Roma.

These citizens has swore an oath as legionary soldiers of Nova Roma, forming the "Cohors VII. Carpathica", a reenactment unit of NR.

I tell you, my brothers and sisters, that this weekend, these days with these guys were more than I could express in words. They embody everything that Nova Roma is. I am very thankful for them, and I am also grateful towards the Gods that they favor Pannonia so much. It's indeed a honor to be their governor.

I have also written an anthem for this NR local group. Hear it is:

Aut Sol radiat aut surridentStellae super hanc vall(em) amabilem,Montes cum arboribus osculantmDescendit ex monte aper.

Dum montes sunt ac Sol et sidera,Plantae, aper et animalia,Protegent Rostallonem Coloniam,Protegetque Hercules eam.

Rostallo circumdata montibus,Plantis dum est et animalibus,Nova Roma ut habeat gloriam,Rostallo dabit operam.

VIVAT NOVA ROMA!VIVAT NOVA ROMA!!VIVAT NOVA ROMA!!!



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88772 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Congratulations, Cn. Lentule and other residents of Burgus Rostallo,
for your successful first year!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88773 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
C. Aemilius Crassus Lentulo omnibusque SPD,

My congratulations to you and to all citizens of Colonia Rostallo.

Valete optime.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88774 From: C. Maria Caeca Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
C. Maria Caeca Cn. Cornelio Lentulo S. P. D.

As always, I am delighted to hear of another successful event in Panonnia ...and heartily congratulate the citizens of this coloniia, and send wishes for many, many productive and wonderful years to come!

Vale et valete quam optime!
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88775 From: Jeff Craft Date: 2012-11-05
Subject: Romans vs picts
Salvete

Has anybody here studied the battle in the grampian mountains that the ancient Romans had against the Picts? I saw a documentary over the history of Scotland and it mentioned it in great detail it was before the Romans built hadrian's wall. If I remember correctly the battle was a stalemate. If someone knows more about this please correct me if I'm wrong.

Vale
Ti. Aurelius trio
Sincerely,

Jeffery Craft
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88776 From: Lord Denovan Date: 2012-11-06
Subject: Re: Romans vs picts
Salve!

The Battle of Mons Graupius is stated to have taken place in AD83 or 84 and which the Romans won against the Caledonians.
No-one to date has been able to state with evidence where exactly the Battle took place, and there are many theories.

If you look at Wikipedia by entering 'Mons Graupius' it has a good coverage without the ridiculous speculation of others who have their own agendas!!

Hope this is of some assistance.

Vale!
M. Flavius Denovanus Victor.

Regards,
Lord Denovan
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88777 From: Chad Stricklin Date: 2012-11-06
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Congrats to the group.

Valete,

Ti. Ovidius Aquila

Sent from my iPhone
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88778 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-06
Subject: a.d. VIII Id. Nov.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem VIII Idus Novembris; hic dies fastus aterque est.

"M. Claudius Marcellus and T. Valerius were the new consuls. I find in
the annals Flaccus and Potitus variously given as the consul's
cognomen, but the question is of small importance. This year gained an
evil notoriety, either through the unhealthy weather or through human
guilt. I would gladly believe-and the authorities are not unanimous on
the point-that it is a false story which states that those whose
deaths made the year notorious for pestilence were really carried off
by poison. I shall, however, relate the matter as it has been handed
down to avoid any appearance of impugning the credit of our
authorities. The foremost men in the State were being attacked by the
same malady, and in almost every case with the same fatal results. A
maid-servant went to Q. Fabius Maximus, one of the curule aediles, and
promised to reveal the cause of the public mischief if the government
would guarantee her against any danger in which her discovery might
involve her. Fabius at once brought the matter to the notice of the
consuls and they referred it to the senate, who authorised the promise
of immunity to be given. She then disclosed the fact that the State
was suffering through the crimes of certain women; those poisons were
concocted by Roman matrons, and if they would follow her at once she
promised that they should catch the poisoners in the act. They
followed their informant and actually found some women compounding
poisonous drugs and some poisons already made up. These latter were
brought into the Forum, and as many as twenty matrons, at whose houses
they had been seized, were brought up by the magistrates' officers.
Two of them, Cornelia and Sergia, both members of patrician houses,
contended that the drugs were medicinal preparations. The
maid-servant, when confronted with them, told them to drink some that
they might prove she had given false evidence. They were allowed time
to consult as to what they would do, and the bystanders were ordered
to retire that they might take counsel with the other matrons. They
all consented to drink the drugs, and after doing so fell victims to
their own criminal designs. Their attendants were instantly arrested,
and denounced a large number of matrons as being guilty of the same
offence, out of whom a hundred and seventy were found guilty. Up to
that time there had never been a charge of poison investigated in
Rome. The whole incident was regarded as a portent, and thought to be
an act of madness rather than deliberate wickedness. In consequence of
the universal alarm created, it was decided to follow the precedent
recorded in the annals. During the secessions of the plebs in the old
days a nail had been driven in by the Dictator, and by this act of
expiation men's minds, disordered by civil strife, had been restored
to sanity. A resolution was passed accordingly, that a Dictator should
be appointed to drive in the nail. Cnaeus Quinctilius was appointed
and named L. Valerius as his Master of the Horse. After the nail was
driven in they resigned office." - Livy, History of Rome 8.18



"But Tiamat without turning her neck roared, spitting defiance from
bitter lips, 'Upstart, do you think yourself too great? Are they
scurrying now from their holes to yours?' Then the lord raised the
hurricane, the great weapon he flung his words at the termagant fury,
'Why are you rising, your pride vaulting, your heart set on faction,
so that sons reject fathers? Mother of all, why did you have to mother
war? 'You made that bungler your husband, Kingu! You gave him the
rank, not his by right, of Anu. You have abused the gods my ancestors,
in bitter malevolence you threaten Anshar, the king of all the gods.
'You have marshaled forces for battle, prepared the war-tackle. Stand
up alone and we will fight it you, you and I alone in battle.'" -
Babylonian Creation Epic, Tablet VI

On this day the ancient Babylonians celebrated the birth of Tiamat.
She took the form of a dragon and swam in the primal waters. Long
before the time of the new gods, and there was only chaos. This chaos
was ruled by the old gods Apsu (fresh water) and Tiamat (the sea). So
a new or younger generation of gods were created for the purpose of
bringing order to chaos. Summoning all of the other young gods,
Marduk went to war against Tiamat. Finally, in a one on one battle,
Tiamat was no match for the great Marduk, Lord of the Four Quarters.
Cornering Tiamat with the four winds at his command, Marduk caught
Tiamat up in his net. When Tiamat opened her mouth to breath fire at
him, Marduk let loose the Imhulla, "evil wind" or hurricane. The many
winds of Marduk filled her up. The winds churning her up from within,
rendered her defenseless. Then Marduk speared her with a lightning bolt.

Splitting Tiamat (the sea) in two, Marduk then raised half of her body
to create the sky and with the other half created the earth. In the
process of this splitting apart, Tiamat's eyes then became the sources
of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. In the realm above (heaven) Marduk
set Anu, the sky god, and in the realm below (earth) Marduk set Ea,
the earth god. Between the two, Marduk set the air god, Enlil. Other
gods were then given their places in the heavens and then the stars
were formed in their likeness.


ROMAN REPUBLICAN TERMS - CONSUL

The most important magistracy was the consulship, which can best be
described as a dual prime ministership or presidency. The office of
Consul is believed to date back to the traditional establishment of
the Republic in 509 BC but the Succession of Consuls was not
continuous in the 5th century. Consuls had extensive competences in
peacetime, administrative, legislative and judicial, and in (frequent)
war time often held the highest military command(s); additional
religious duties included certain rites which, as a sign of their
formal importance, could only be carried out by top level state
officials (compare Rex sacrorum); the reading of the auguries was an
essential step before leading armies into the field.

Under the laws of the Republic, the minimum age of election to consul
for patricians was 40 years of age, for plebeians 42. Two consuls were
elected each year, serving together with veto power over each other's
actions, a normal principle for magistratures. The two men were
elected by the Comitia centuriata, an assembly of the people in which
the richest Romans were in the majority. The consuls served for only
one year (to prevent corruption) and could only rule when they agreed,
because each consul could veto the other one's decision. According to
tradition, the consulship was initially reserved for patricians and
only in 367 BC the plebeians won the right to stand for this supreme
office, when the lex Licinia Sextia provided that at least one consul
each year should be plebeian; the first plebeian consul, Lucius
Sextius, was thereby elected the following year.

From the third century BC onward, it was also necessary that the
candidate had served in other magistracies (e.g., the praetorship). It
was possible to have a second term as consul, but ten years ought to
separate these two terms; however, in the late second century Gaius
Marius was consul in 107, 104, 103, 102, 101, and 100. Later, men like
Iulius Caesar and Octavian had similar careers.

The consuls were the chairmen of the Senate, which served as a board
of advisers. They also commanded the Roman army (both had two legions)
and exercised the highest juridical power in the Roman empire.
Therefore, the Greek historian Polybius of Megalopolis likened the
consuls to kings. Only laws and the decrees of the Senate or the
People's assembly limited their powers; only the veto of a consul or a
tribune could supersede their decisions. This meant that the consuls
could always interfere with the decisions of praetors, aediles and
quaestors, although Tribunes, censors and dictators were immune.

The idea to divide executive leadership was probably derived from
Carthage, which was ruled by a similar college of suffetes ('judges').
This seems to be confirmed by the fact that the consuls were
originally known as iudices ('judges'). An alternative explanation is
that the idea originated in Central-Italy, where colleges of
meddicesruled tribes like the Sabines and the Samnite federation.

Under the empire, the consulship was often held for only two months;
in this way, twelve senators could occupy the empire's highest office.
(In the year 190, there were no less than twenty-five consuls.)
Although the election of the consul took place in the building of the
Senate (Curia Julia), the candidates were appointed by the emperor; if
he emperor wanted to honor a particular senator, he shared the office
(e.g., the emperor Trajan and senator Sextus Julius Frontinus in the
first two months of 100). At that time, the consulship was only a
little more than a purely honorary title and the minimum age had been
lowered considerably. However, during a crisis (e.g., after the death
of an emperor), a consul still had great responsibilities.

A consul had twelve bodyguards (lictores) and was allowed to wear a
purple-bordered toga. The two consuls gave their names to the Roman year


Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88779 From: Regilla Date: 2012-11-08
Subject: Senate Session
Salvete!

The Senate is in session.

PRESIDING MAGISTRATE: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar

QUORUM: No absences have been posted. The quorum is achieved.

SCHEDULE:

09:10 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 07-NOV-2012 : Call to order. Debate period commences at 10:00 PM 07-NOV-2012.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 13-NOV-2012 : Call to recess. Debate period suspended.

12:00 AM MOUNTAIN TIME 15-NOV-2012 : Call to order. Debate period resumes. 

09:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 20-NOV-2012 : Debate period ends.

10:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 20-NOV-2012 : Call to recess.

12:00 AM MOUNTAIN TIME 23-NOV-2012 : Call to order. Call to vote. Voting period commences.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-NOV-2012 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 30-NOV-2012 : Calculation of votes and call to close to be issued after end voting and before this time.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88780 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-08
Subject: ad. VI Id. Nov.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem VI Idus Novembris; haec dies comitialis est.


"Whilst Privernum was invested by two consular armies, one of the
consuls was recalled home to conduct the elections. It was in this
year that the carceres were erected in the Circus Maximus. The trouble
of the war with Privernum was not yet over when a most alarming report
of a sudden movement amongst the Gauls reached the senate. Such
reports were not often treated lightly. The new consuls, L. Aemilius
Mamercinus and C Plautius, were immediately ordered to arrange their
respective commands on the very day they assumed office, namely July
1. The Gaulish war fell to Mamercinus, and he allowed none of those
who were called up for service to claim exemption. It is even asserted
that the mob of mechanics and artizans, a class utterly unfit for
warfare, were called out. An immense army was concentrated at Veii to
check the advance of the Gauls. It was thought better not to march any
further in case the enemy took some other route to the City. After a
thorough reconnaissance had been made, it was ascertained after a few
days that all was quiet as far as the Gauls were concerned, and the
whole force was thereupon marched to Privernum. From this point there
is a twofold story. Some state that the city was stormed and Vitrubius
taken alive; other authorities aver that before the final assault the
townsmen came out with a caduceus and surrendered to the consul,
whilst Vitrubius was given up by his own men. The senate, when
consulted as to the fate of Vitrubius and the Privernates, instructed
the consul to demolish the walls of Privernum and station a strong
garrison there, and then to celebrate his triumph. Vitrubius was to be
kept in prison until the consul returned and then to be scourged and
beheaded; his house on the Palatine was to be razed and his goods
devoted to Semo Sancus. The money realised by their sale was melted
down into brazen orbs which were deposited in the chapel of Sancus
opposite the temple of Quirinus. With regard to the senate of
Privernum, it was decreed that every senator who had remained in that
city after its revolt from Rome should be deported beyond the Tiber on
the same conditions as those of Velitrae. After his triumph, when
Vitrubius and his accomplices had been put to death, the consul
thought that as the senate was satisfied with the punishment of the
guilty, he might safely refer to the matter of the Privernates. He
addressed the House in the following terms: "Since the authors of the
revolt, senators, have been visited by the immortal gods and by you
with the punishment they deserved, what is your pleasure with regard
to the innocent population? Although it is my duty to ask for opinions
rather than to give them, I should like to say that in view of the
fact that the Privernates are neighbours of the Samnites, with whom
peaceful relations are now upon a most uncertain footing, I am anxious
that as few grounds of complaint as possible should exist between us
and them."

The question was not an easy one to settle, for the senators, were
governed largely by their temperaments and some advised a harsh,
others a gentler course. The general divergence of opinion was widened
by one of the Privernate envoys who was thinking more of the state of
things in which he had been born than of his present plight. One of
the senators who was advocating sterner measures asked him what
punishment he thought his countrymen deserved. He replied: "The
punishment which those deserve who assert their liberty." The consul
saw that this spirited reply only exasperated those who were already
adverse to the cause of the Privernates, and he tried to get a softer
answer by a more considerate question. "Well," he said, "if we spare
you now, what sort of a peace may we hope to have with you for the
time to come?" "A real and lasting one," was the reply, "if its terms
be good, but if they are bad, one that will soon be broken." On
hearing this, some of the senators exclaimed that he was using open
threats, and that it was by such language that even those states which
had been pacified were incited to renew hostilities. The better part
of the senate, however, put a more favourable construction on his
reply, and declared that it was an utterance worthy of a man and a man
who loved liberty. Was it, they asked, to be supposed that any people
or for that matter, any individual would remain longer than he could
help under conditions which made him discontented? Peace would only be
faithfully kept where those who accepted it did so voluntarily; they
could not hope that it would be faithfully kept where they sought to
reduce men to servitude. The senate was brought to adopt this view
mainly by the consul himself who kept repeating to the consulars-the
men who had to state their opinions first-in a tone loud enough for
many to hear, "Men whose first and last thought is their liberty
deserve to become Romans." Thus they gained their cause in the senate,
and the proposal to confer full citizenship on the Privernates was
submitted to the people." - Livy, History of Rome 8.20



Today is the last celebration of the Mania, and the rite of mundus was
performed for the final time of the year. In this ceremony an effigy
representing the sky was placed upside down in a pit and and covered
with a large stone called the lapis manalis. Three times a year,
including today, the stone was removed to alow the spirits of the
underworld access to the upper regions of the earth. Mania is the
goddess of the dead and along with Mantus rules the underworld. She is
said to be the mother of ghosts, the undead and other spirits of the
night, as well as the Lares and the Manes, the spirits of Roman
ancestors. Mania was borrowed from the Etruscan goddess Manea after
the assimilation of the Etruscan people by the Romans, and from the
Greeks as the goddess of madness and death --- with her sister
Insania, utter madness, she was a cruel mistress.



"Illustrious Rhea ... Mother of Gods and Men, who from Gaia (Earth)
and spacious Ouranos (Heaven) derives her glorious birth." –Orphic
Hymn 14 to Rhea

"Ops is said to be the wife of Saturn. By her they designated the
earth, because the earth distributes all goods to the human gender." -
Festus 203:19

Today is also sacred to Ops, or the Greek Rhea. Ops is the goddess of
harvests. She was the wife of Saturn, by whom she bore Iuppiter and
Iuno. At her festivals, the Opiconsivia and the Opalia, held in August
and December, respectively, she was worshiped as a goddess of sowing
and reaping and was associated with Consus, god of crops. She was
later identified with the Greek Rhea. The Latin word ops means
"riches, goods, abundance, gifts, munificence, plenty". This word is
also related to opus, meaning "work" and, particularly "working the
earth, ploughing, sowing". Ops was the goddess of plenty among the
Latins (Romans). She was the spouse of Saturn, the bountiful monarch
of the Golden Age. Just as Saturn was identified to Kronos, his Greek
counterpart, Ops was identified to Rhea, the wife of Kronos (or
Kronus, in the Latin spelling). The cult of Ops was instituted by King
Titus Tatius, the Sabine monarch. And Ops soon became the patroness of
riches, abundance, and prosperity both personal and national. She is
shown seated, holding sheaves of grain.

In Greek mythology, Rhea was the mother of the gods, daughter of
Uranus and Gaia. She was married to her brother Cronus and was the
mother of Demeter, Hades, Hera, Hestia, Poseidon and Zeus. Cronus was
jealous of the future power of his children and, to secure his
dominion, he ate his own children. Rhea managed to rescue one son,
Zeus. She hid him in the Dictean Cave in Crete and gave Cronus a stone
wrapped in the clothes of the infant, which he swallowed. Thus Rhea
succeeded in making him believe that he had killed all of his
children. When Zeus reached maturity he overpowered and dethroned his
father and made Cronus disgorge his siblings. Rhea is identified with
mother goddess Cybele from Asia Minor and is also known as Rhea Cybele
and Magna Mater ("great mother"). She was worshipped with orgiastic
rites. Rhea is depicted between two lions or on a chariot pulled by lions.



Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88781 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-09
Subject: a.d. V Id. Nov.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem V Idus Novembris; haec dies comitialis est.


"Both consuls sent word to the senate that there were very slender
hopes of the Samnites remaining at peace. Publilius informed them that
2000 troops from Nola and 4000 Samnites had been admitted into
Palaeopolis, more under pressure from Nola than from any great desire
for their presence on the part of the Greeks; Cornelius sent the
additional information that orders for a general levy had been issued
throughout Samnium, and attempts were being openly made to induce the
neighbouring communities of Privernum, Fundi, and Formiae to rise.
Under these circumstances it was decided to send ambassadors to the
Samnites before actually commencing war. The Samnites sent an insolent
reply. They accused the Romans of wanton aggression, and absolutely
denied the charges made against themselves; they declared that the
assistance which the Greeks had received was not furnished by their
government, nor had they tampered with Fundi and Formiae, for they had
no reason to distrust their own strength if it came to war. Moreover,
it was impossible to disguise the deep irritation which the Samnite
nation felt at the conduct of the Roman people in restoring Fregellae
after they had taken it from the Volscians and destroyed it, and
placing a colony on Samnite territory which the colonists called
Fregellae. If this insult and injury were not removed by those
responsible for it, they would themselves exert all their strength to
get rid of it. The Roman ambassadors invited them to submit the
questions at issue to arbitration before their common friends, but the
Samnites replied: "Why should we beat about the bush? No diplomacy, no
arbitration can adjust our quarrel; arms and the fortune of war can
alone decide the issue. We must meet in Campania." To which the Roman
replied: "Roman soldiers will march not whither the enemy summons
them, but whither their commander leads them."

Publilius meantime had taken up a suitable position between
Palaeopolis and Neapolis in order to prevent them from rendering each
other the mutual assistance they had hitherto given. The time for the
elections was close at hand, and it would have been most inexpedient
for the public interest to recall Publilius, as he was ready to attack
the place and in daily expectation of effecting its capture. An
arrangement was accordingly made with the tribunes of the plebs to
propose to the people that at the expiration of his term of office
Publilius should continue to act as proconsul till the war with the
Greeks was brought to a close. The same step was taken with regard to
Cornelius, who had already entered Samnium, and written instructions
were sent to him to nominate a Dictator to hold the elections. He
nominated M. Claudius Marcellus, and Sp. Postumius was named by him
Master of the Horse. The elections, however, were not held by that
Dictator, doubts having been raised as to whether the proper
formalities had been observed in his nomination. The augurs, when
consulted, declared that they had not been duly observed. The tribunes
characterised their action as dishonest and iniquitous. "How," they
asked, "could they know that there was any irregularity? The consul
rose at midnight to nominate the Dictator; he had made no
communication to any one either officially or privately about the
matter; there was no one living who could say that he had seen or
heard anything which would vitiate the auspices; the augurs sitting
quietly in Rome could not possibly divine what difficulty the consul
may have met with in the camp. Who was there who could not see that
the irregularity which the augurs had discovered lay in the fact that
the Dictator was a plebeian?" These and other objections were raised
by the tribunes. Matters, however, reverted to an interregnum, and
owing to the repeated adjournment of the elections on one pretext
after another, there were no fewer than fourteen interregna. At last
L. Aemilius, the fourteenth interrex, declared C. Poetilius and L.
Papirius Mugilanus duly elected." - Livy, History of Rome 8.23



Today is Sadie Hawkins' Day. In A.D. 1288 the Scottish parliament
legislated that any woman could propose to a man in Leap Year. If
refused, the man had to compensate her by one pound. This law was
adopted in France, Switzerland and Italy, and the tradition was
carried to America, Australia and other countries. In the United
States, the idea made its debut in Al Capp's "Li'l Abner" comic strip
on November 15, 1937. Sadie Hawkins was "the homeliest gal in the
hills" who grew tired of waiting for the fellows to come a courtin'.
Her father, Hekzebiah Hawkins, a prominent resident of Dogpatch, was
even more worried about Sadie living at home for the rest of his life,
so he decreed the first annual Sadie Hawkins Day, a foot race in which
the unmarried gals pursued the town's bachelors, with matrimony the
consequence. By the late 1930's the event had swept the nation and had
a life of its own. Life magazine reported over 200 colleges holding
Sadie Hawkins Day events in 1939, only two years after its inception.
It became a woman empowering rite at high schools and college
campuses, long before the modern feminist movement gained prominence.
The basis of Sadie Hawkins Day is that women and girls take the
initiative in inviting the man or boy of their choice out on a date,
typically to a dance attended by other bachelors and their aggressive
dates. When Al Capp created the event, it was not his intention to
have the event occur annually on a specific date because it inhibited
his freewheeling plotting. However, due to its enormous popularity and
the numerous fan letters Capp received, the event became an annual
event in the strip during the month of November, lasting four decades.



"Originally the Lord Mayor of London was elected on the feast of St
Simon and St Jude (28 October), and although the election day was
altered, admittance to office continued to take place on that day
until 1751. From 1752, owing to the adoption of the Gregorian
calendar, Lord Mayor's Day became 9 November. In recent years the Lord
Mayor has been sworn in at Guildhall on the second Friday [now
Saturday] in November, being presented to the Lord Chief Justice on
the following day (Saturday)." - Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and
Fable (Cassell, London, 1988)


Images of Gog and Magog depicted as giants are carried in a
traditional procession in the Lord Mayor's Show by the Lord Mayor of
the City of London. According to the Lord Mayor, the giants Gog and
Magog are traditional guardians of the City of London, and their
images have been carried in the Lord Mayor's Show since the days of
King Henry V. The Lord Mayor's account of Gog and Magog says that the
Roman Emperor Diocletian had thirty-three wicked daughters. He found
thirty three husbands for them to curb their wicked ways; they chafed
at this, and under the leadership of the eldest sister, Alba, they
murdered them. For this crime, they were set adrift at sea; they were
washed ashore on a windswept island, which after Alba was called
Albion. Here they coupled with demons, and gave birth to a race of
giants, among whose descendants were Gog and Magog.


Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88782 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-10
Subject: a.d. IV Id. Nov.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est ante diem IV Idus Novembris; haec dies comitialis est.


"The foundation of Alexandria in Egypt is stated to have taken place
this year [327 B.C.], and also the assassination of Alexander of
Epirus at the hands of a Lucanian refugee, an event which fulfilled
the oracular prediction of the Dodonean Jupiter. When he was invited
by the Tarentines into Italy, he received a warning to beware of the
water of Acheron and the city of Pandosia; for it was there that the
limits of his destiny were fixed. This made him cross over into Italy
all the sooner, that he might be as far as possible from the city of
Pandosia in Epirus and the river Acheron, which flows from Molossis
into the Infernal Marshes and finally empties itself into the
Thesprotian Gulf. But, as often happens, in trying to avoid his fate
he rushed upon it. He won many victories over the nationalities of
Southern Italy, inflicting numerous defeats upon the legions of
Bruttium and Lucania, capturing the city of Heraclea, a colony of
settlers from Tarentum, taking Potentia from the Lucanians, Sipontum
from the Apulians, Consentia and Terina from the Bruttii and other
cities belonging to the Messapians and Lucanians. He sent three
hundred noble families to Epirus to be detained there as hostages. The
circumstances under which he met his death were these. He had taken up
a permanent position on three hills not far from the city of Pandosia
which is close to the frontiers of the Lucanians and Bruttii. From
this point he made incursions into every part of the enemy's
territory, and on these expeditions he had as a bodyguard some two
hundred Lucanian refugees, in whose fidelity he placed confidence, but
who, like most of their countrymen, were given to changing their minds
as their fortunes changed. Continuous rains had inundated the whole
country and prevented the three divisions of the army from mutually
supporting each other, the level ground between the hills being
impassable. While they were in this condition two out of the three
divisions were suddenly attacked in the king's absence and
overwhelmed. After annihilating them the enemy invested the third
hill, where the king was present in person. The Lucanian refugees
managed to communicate with their countrymen, and promised, if a safe
return were guaranteed to them, to place the king in their hands alive
or dead. Alexander, with a picked body of troops, cut his way, with
splendid courage, through the enemy, and meeting the Lucanian general
slew him after a hand to hand fight. Then getting together those of
his men who were scattered in flight, he rode towards the ruins of a
bridge which had been carried away by the floods and came to a river.
Whilst his men were fording it with very uncertain footing, a soldier,
almost spent by his exertions and his fears, cursed the river for its
unlucky name, and said, "Rightly art thou called Acheros!" When these
words fell on his ear the king at once recalled to mind the oracular
warning, and stopped, doubtful whether to cross or not. Sotimus, one
of his personal attendants, asked him why he hesitated at such a
critical moment and drew his attention to the suspicious movements of
the Lucanian refugees who were evidently meditating treachery. The
king looked back and saw them coming on in a compact body; he at once
drew his sword and spurred his horse through the middle of the river.
He had already reached the shallow water on the other side when one of
the refugees some distance away transfixed him with a javelin. He fell
from his horse, and his lifeless body with the weapon sticking in it
was carried down by the current to that part of the bank where the
enemy were stationed. There it was horribly mutilated. After cutting
it through the middle they sent one half to Consentia and kept the
other to make sport of. Whilst they were pelting it at a distance with
darts and stones a solitary woman ventured among the rabble who were
showing such incredible brutality and implored them to desist. She
told them amid her tears that her husband and children were held
prisoners by the enemy and she hoped to ransom them with the king's
body however much it might have been disfigured. This put an end to
the outrages. What was left of the limbs was cremated at Consentia by
the reverential care of this one woman, and the bones were sent back
to Metapontum; from there they were carried to Cleopatra, the king's
wife, and Olympias, his sister, the latter of whom was the mother, the
former the sister of Alexander the Great. I thought it well to give
this brief account of the tragic end of Alexander of Epirus, for
although Fortune kept him from hostilities with Rome, the wars he
waged in Italy entitle him to a place in this history." - Livy,
History of Rome 8.24


"Euripides and Sophocles and many others have said of her that she
boasted that she excelled the Nereids in beauty. For this she was put
among the constellations, seated in a chair. On account of her
impiety, as the sky turns, she seems to be carried along lying on her
back." - Hyginus, Astronomica II.10

Today is the culmination of the constellation Cassiopeia - it
reaches its zenith in the night sky. Cassiopeia was the wife of
Cepheus, the Ethiopian king of Joppa (now known as Jaffa, in Israel),
and the mother of Andromeda. The queen was both beautiful and vain,
and the story of how her vanity caused great distress is told in
relation to the constellation Andromeda. After promising her daughter
in marriage to Perseus, Cassiopeia had second thoughts. She convinced
one of Poseidon's sons, Agenor, to disrupt the ceremony by claiming
Andromeda for himself. Agenor arrived with an entire army, and a
fierce struggle ensued. In the battle Cassiopeia is said to have
cried "Perseus must die". At any rate it was Perseus who was
victorious, with the help of the Gorgon's head. Perseus had recently
slain Medusa, the Gorgon, and had put its head in a bed of coral. He
retrieved the head and waved it in midst of the warring wedding party,
instantly turning them all to stone. In the group was both Cepheus and
Cassiopeia. A contrite Poseidon put both father and mother in the
heavens. But because of Cassiopeia's vanity, he placed her in a chair
which revolves around the Pole Star, so half the time she's obliged to
sit upside down. The Romans knew Cassiopeia as "Muller Sedis", the
"Woman of the Chair"; or simply as "Sedes", qualified by "regalis" or
"regia".



In ancient Latvia, today was celebrated as the festival of Martini.
Martini was celebrated to mark the end of the autumn and the beginning
of winter. The festival marks the transfer from Usins to Martins, two
deities of horses. The god Usins is invoked during the summer, while
Martins is a winter god. The festival marked the end of the
preparations for winter, such as salting meat and fish, storing the
harvest and making preserves. Martini also marked the beginning of
masquerading and sledding, among other wintry activities.



Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88783 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2012-11-10
Subject: Call for Lictors
Q Caecilius Metellus pontifex Quiritibus salutem dicit.

Saluete, Quirites.

In accordance with Paragraph III.A. of our Constitution, the Comitia
Curiata is to be made of thirty lictores curiati; at present, there
are seventeen vacancies to be filled therein, whose duties are outlined
in the subsections of the aforementioned paragraph, which are to be
filled via appointment by the College of Pontiffs.

If you are interested in serving as a lictor, please contact me
directly to indicate your interest via email to q 'dot' caecilius 'dot'
metellus 'at' gmail 'dot' com; please also be sure to provide your name
and citizen ID number. At minimum, applicants must be a taxpaying
member (assiduus/assidua), and an appointed lictor must remain a
taxpayer to remain a lictor.

In advance, I thank all applicants for their willingness to serve.

Optime ualete,

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus


For additional reference, the current lictors are:

Gaius Aemilius Crassus
Gaius Cocceius Spinula
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Helena Galeria Aureliana
Gnaeus Iulius Caesar
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus
Gaius Marcius Crispus
Gaius Popillius Laenas
Quintus Servilius Priscus
Aula Tullia Scholastica
Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
Publius Ullerius Stephanus Venator
Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88784 From: C. Maria Caeca Date: 2012-11-11
Subject: OT: Veterans Day thoughts
Omnibus in Foro S. P. D.

I marked this as off topic, but, since the ancient Romans honored their military, and reverenced their war dead, perhaps it is really a continuation of that practice, in my own way.

Before this became Veterans' Day, it was Armistice Day, and it was a solemn celebration of the end of World War I. It was also a time set aside to honor and remember all the war dead of all Nations, but especially those who lost their lives during that horrific war.



As a child, we celebrated November 11th at our school in a simple but profoundly moving manner. At 11:11 AM, taps would play over the loud speaker system, and we would all stop what we were doing, stand with bowed heads, and keep silence for a minute or so. Even before I understood why we did this, I understood that what we did was important and necessary.



As I always do on this day, I offer this very beautiful and familiar poem, in memory, honor and gratitude to all who gave their lives for their Nations in time of war.



In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields



In Flanders Fields, by John McCrae



The other day, I was trying to explain to a 23 year old young man why the original purpose of this day is so important, and should be remembered. He couldn't understand why something that happened almost 100 years ago is still so significant, or why we should bother about it. I explained to him, finally that, like it or not, that global conflict not only changed the face of war forever, but it changed society, as well, and that he and I, albeit indirectly, are products of those changes. So, we remember, and I hope that, in our remembering, we pray, and determine that Nations will never embroil themselves in situations that cost the world an entire generation of young people again.


Valete quam optime!
C. Maria Caeca
Sacerdos Vestae

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88785 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-12
Subject: prid. Id. Nov.
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est pridie Idus Novembris; haec dies comitialis est.

"Nymphius at the same time approached the Samnite praetor and
persuaded him, now that the whole of the Roman fighting force was
either round Palaeopolis or engaged in Samnium, to allow him to sail
round with the fleet to the Roman seaboard and ravage not only the
coastal districts but even the country close to the city. But to
ensure secrecy he pointed out that it would be necessary to start by
night, and that the ships should be at once launched. To expedite
matters the whole of the Samnite troops, with the exception of those
who were mounting guard in the city, were sent down to the shore. Here
they were so crowded as to impede one another's movements and the
confusion was heightened by the darkness and the contradictory orders
which Nymphius was giving in order to gain time. Meantime Charilaus
had been admitted by his confederates into the city. When the Romans
had completely occupied the highest parts of the city, he ordered them
to raise a shout, on which the Greeks, acting on the instructions of
their leaders kept quiet. The Nolans escaped at the other end of the
city and took the road to Nola. The Samnites, shut out as they were
from the city, had less difficulty in getting away, but when once out
of danger they found themselves in a much more sorry flight. They had
no arms, there was nothing they possessed which was not left behind
with the enemy; they returned home stripped and destitute, an object
of derision not only to foreigners but even to their own countrymen. I
am quite aware that there is another view of this transaction,
according to which it was the Samnites who surrendered, but in the
above account I have followed the authorities whom I consider most
worthy of credit. Neapolis became subsequently the chief seat of the
Greek population, and the fact of a treaty being made with that city
renders it all the more probable that the re-establishment of friendly
relations was due to them. As it was generally believed that the enemy
had been forced by the siege to come to terms, a triumph was decreed
to Publilius. Two circumstances happened in connection with his
consulship which had never happened before-a prolongation of command
and a triumph after he had laid down his command." - Livy, History of
Rome 8.26


"O Jupiter Capitolinus, to You I pray, I entreat You, who the Roman
people have named Optimus after Your kindness and Maximus after Your
great power. And to You, O Juno Regina, guardian of the City of Rome.
O Minerva, You have always come to my aid with Your counsels, witness
to the existence of my works; And most especially to You, Penates, who
most of all has called me back, gods of my fathers and my family,
recalling me for the sake of your stations; And You who preside over
the City of Rome and the Republic, You I call to witness, You from
whose temple precincts and shrines did I repel the heinous and
destructive flames of impious duplicity; You also, Mother Vesta, I
pray to You, whose most chaste Vestales I have defended against
pillage and desecration by demented men; for their eternal flame I
could not allow to pass, extinguished in the blood of citizens, or
Your pure flame be intermingled with a conflagration sweeping the
entire city." - Cicero, De Domo sua ad Pontifices 144

"O Jupiter, it was through Your omen that I was led while I laid here
upon the Palatine Hill, to establish the very first foundations of the
city of Rome. Already the Arx, that fortress wickedly bought, is
seized by the Sabines, from whence they, with sword in hand, now
advance across the valley against us. But if You, Father of the Gods
and of men, hold back our enemies, at least from this spot, delivering
the Romans from their terror, and stay their shameful retreat, then
this I vow to You, Jupiter Stator, that a holy precinct and shrine
will be built in Your honor as a memorial to remind our descendents of
how once the city of Rome was saved by Your aid." - Livy, History of
Rome 1.12

Today begins a great three-day-long festival to Iuppiter, around which
the Ludi Plebii were celebrated. Iuppiter is the supreme god, also
called Iove. Originally a sky deity associated with rain and
agriculture, He developed into the great father god, prime protector
of the state, concerned, like the Greek Zeus (with whom He is
identified), with all aspects of life. At His temple on the Capitol,
triumphant generals honored Him with their spoils and magistrates paid
homage to Him with sacrifices. Iuppiter was the son of Saturn and Ops
and the brother and husband of Iuno. Some of His titles are:

1. Iuppiter Caelestis ("heavenly")
2. Iuppiter Fulgurator ("of the lightning")
3. Iuppiter Latarius ("God of Latium")
4. Iuppiter Lucetius ("of the light")
5. Iuppiter Pluvius ("sender of rain")
6. Iuppiter Stator ("who stands", from stare meaning "standing")
7. Iupiter Terminus or Jupiter Terminalus (defender of boundaries)
8. Iuppiter Tonans ("thunderer")
9. Iuppiter Victor (leading the Roman armies to victory)
10. Iuppiter Summanus (sender of nocturnal thunder)
11. Iuppiter Feretrius ("who carries away [the spoils of war]")

Iuppiter was considered as the guardian of law, and as the protector of justice
and virtue: He maintained the sanctity of an oath, and presided over all
transactions which were based upon faithfulness and justice. Hence Fides was His
companion on the capitol, along with Victoria; and hence a traitor to his
country, and persons guilty of perjury, were thrown down the Tarpeian rock.
Faithfulness is manifested in the internal relations of the state, as well as in
its connections with foreign powers, and in both respects Iuppiter was regarded
as its protector. Not only the family, however, but all the political bodies
into which the Roman people was divided, such as the gentes and curiae, were
under the especial protection of the king and queen of the gods; and so was the
whole body of the Roman people, that is, the Roman state itself.

The largest temple in Rome was that of Iuppiter Optimus Maximus on the
Capitoline Hill. Here He was worshipped alongside Iuno and Minerva,
forming with them the Capitoline Triad. Temples to Iuppiter Optimus
Maximus or the Capitoline Triad as a whole were commonly built by the
Romans at the center of new cities in their colonies.


Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88786 From: Cato Date: 2012-11-13
Subject: IDIBUS NOVEMBRIBUS
Cato omnibus in foro SPD

Hodiernus dies est Idibus Novembribus; hic dies nefastus publicus est.

"This was followed almost immediately by a war with the Greeks on the
eastern coast. The Tarentines had encouraged the people of Palaeopolis
through their long resistance with vain hopes of succour, and when
they heard that the Romans had got possession of the place they
severely blamed the Palaeopolitans for leaving them in the lurch, as
though they were quite guiltless of having behaved in a similar manner
themselves. They were furious with the Romans, especially after they
found that the Lucanians and Apulians had established friendly
relations with them-for it was in this year that the alliance had been
formed-and they realised that they would be the next to be involved.
They saw that it must soon become a question of either fighting Rome
or submitting to her, and that their whole future in fact depended
upon the result of the Samnite war. That nation stood out alone, and
even their strength was inadequate for the struggle, now that the
Lucanians had abandoned them. They believed, however, that these could
still be brought back and induced to desert the Roman alliance, if
sufficient skill were shown in sowing the seeds of discord between
them. These arguments found general acceptance among a people who were
fickle and restless, and some young Lucanians, distinguished for their
unscrupulousness rather than for their sense of honour, were bribed to
make themselves tools of the war party. After scourging one another
with rods they presented themselves with their backs exposed, in the
popular Assembly, and loudly complained that after they had ventured
inside the Roman camp, they had been scourged by the consul's orders
and were within an ace of losing their heads. The affair had an ugly
look, and the visible evidence removed any suspicion of fraud. The
Assembly became greatly excited, and amidst loud shouts insisted upon
the magistrates convening the senate. When it assembled the senators
were surrounded by a crowd of spectators who clamoured for war with
Rome, whilst others went off into the country to rouse the peasantry
to arms. Even the coolest heads were carried away by the tumult of
popular feeling; a decree was passed that a fresh alliance should be
made with the Samnites, and negotiations were opened with them
accordingly. The Samnites did not feel much confidence in this sudden
and apparently groundless change of policy, and the Lucanians were
obliged to give hostages and allow the Samnites to garrison their
fortified places. Blinded by the imposition that had been practiced on
them and by their furious resentment at it, they made no difficulty
about accepting these terms. Shortly afterwards, when the authors of
the false charges had removed to Tarentum, they began to see how they
had been hoodwinked, but it was then too late, events were no longer
in their power, and nothing remained but unavailing repentance." -
Livy, History of Rome 8.27


"Vividi gaudens Feronia luco." - Vergil, Aeneid, viii.800

"His fractus ductor conuelli signa maniplis
optato laetis abitu iubet. itur in agros
diues ubi ante omnis colitur Feronia luco
et sacer umectat Flauinia rura Capenas." - Silius Italicus, Punica
XIII.83

"Circaevmque ivgum circa hunc tractum Campaniae colebatur puer
Iuppiter, qui Anxyrus dicebatur, quasi aneu xurou, id est sine
novacula, quia barbam numquam rasisset, et Iuno virgo, quae Feronia
dicebatur. Est autem fons in Campania iuxta Terracinam, quae aliquando
Anxur est dicta." - Maurus Servius Honoratus, Commentary on the Aeneid
of Vergil 7.799

"Feronia was the ancient goddess of the market-place and fairs. This
would, as a matter of course, identify her with, and make her the
patron of, all strolling characters who frequent such places. But as
she had temples in Etruria, it is possible that she was common to both
races. The ancients were at a loss where to place her among the
deities; she appears, however, to be a goddess of the earth, and
allied to Mania. But what is most important of all for my purpose is
that she was feared, and that people brought her offerings. She often
appeared as an old woman who went about begging in the country, yet
she always had a gran pulitica--that is, she was intelligent or shrewd
or very cunning in manners--and, as one would have believed, she was a
witch. All who gave her alms were very fortunate, and their affairs
prospered. And if people could give her nothing because of their
poverty, when they returned home after the sun rose (dopo chiaro) they
found abundant gifts--enough to support all the family--so that
henceforth all went well with them; but if any who were rich gave her
nothing, and had evil hearts, she cursed them...The incident of the
begging, and the elegant style and distinguished air indicate a
character like that of Juno and Ceres combined." - C.G. Leland,
"Etruscan Roman Remains in Popular Tradition", ch. III p. 55

"At or near Feronia was a celebrated temple to the goddess of that
name, which, like many ancient shrines, stood in a thick grove Lucus
Feroniae. She seems to have been identical with Proserpine, and was
worshipped by the Sabines, and Latins, as well as by the Etruscans.
Hither, on yearly festivals, pilgrims resorted in great numbers from
the surrounding country, many to perform vows and offer sacrifice
and those who were possessed with the spirit of the goddess, walked
with naked feet over heaps of burning coal and ashes, without
receiving injury and many merchants, artisans, and husbandmen,
taking advantage of the concourse, brought their goods hither for
sale, so that the market or fair held here was more splendid than any
other in Italy. From the numerous first-fruits, and other gifts
offered to the goddess, her shrine became renowned for its riches, and
was decorated with abundance of gold and silver. But it was despoiled
by Hannibal on his march through Italy. It was however maintained
till the fall of paganism in the fourth century. That the temple
itself stood on a height seems probable from the fact, mentioned by
Livy, of its being struck by lightning." - G. Dennis, "The Cities and
Cemeteries of Etruria", ch. 10

"These incidents led to his [Hannibal] withdrawal from Rome, and he
retired as far as the river Tutia, six miles distant from the City.
From there he marched to the grove of Feronia and the temple, which
was celebrated in those days for its wealth. The people of Capena and
other cities round used to bring their first-fruits and other
offerings, according to their ability, and they had also embellished
it with a considerable quantity of gold and silver. Now the temple was
despoiled of all its treasures. Great heaps of metal, where the
soldiers, struck by remorse, had thrown pieces of uncoined brass, were
found there after Hannibal's departure. All writers are agreed as to
the plundering of this temple. Coelius tell us that Hannibal diverted
his march to it while he was going from Eretum to Rome, after marching
from Amiternum by Reate and Cutiliae." - Livy, History of Rome 26.11

"After this war another arose against the Romans on the part of the
Sabine nation, the beginning and occasion of which was this. There is
a sanctuary, honoured in common by the Sabines and the Latins, that is
held in the greatest reverence and is dedicated to a goddess named
Feronia; some of those who translate the name into Greek call her
Anthophoros or "Flower Bearer," others Philostephanos or "Lover of
Garlands," and still others Persephone. To this sanctuary people used
to resort from the neighbouring cities on the appointed days of
festival, many of them performing vows and offering sacrifice to the
goddess and many with the purpose of trafficking during the festive
gathering as merchants, artisans and husbandmen; and here were held
fairs more celebrated than in any other places in Italy." - Dionysus
of Halicarnassus, Roman Antiquities 3.32


Today is the second day of the three-day festival to Iuppiter, and is
held in honor of both him and the goddess Feronia. Since Iuppiter is
a pretty well-known deity, I am focusing on Feronia. Feronia is a
difficult goddess to identify; some sources claim that she is an
aspect of Iuno, or Ceres/Persephone, or both. She is also called the
"mother of the nymphs of Campania" by Servius (Commentary on the
Aeneid, 8.564), and Varro places her in the group of Sabine goddesses
("Feronia, Minerva, Novensides, a Sabinis." - de Lingua Latina V.74).
At Rome Feronia had a grove and later a temple in the Campus Martius;
the latter is attested only in the calendars. Since her cult at Rome
is curiously placed in the middle of the Plebeian Games, it was
probably older than they were, and it could go back to a primitive
fair, as at Lucus Feroniae. It is first mentioned at Rome when
expiatory offerings were ordered by the Sibylline in 217 BC: they were
extended even to the freedwomen (libertiinae), who according to their
ability had to contribute money for a gift to Feronia, while freewomen
(matronae) contributed to Iuno Regina on the Aventine, Though perhaps
originally an agricultural goddess (she received an offering of the
first-fruits of the season at Lucus Feroniae), she appears to have
acquired a special association with freemen and granting freedom to
slaves. In explaining her name Varro also called her Libertas,
"Libertatem deam dicit, Feroniam quasi Fidoniam", and an inscription
on a seat in her temple at Terracina, where freedman received the cap
of freedom (pilleus) on their shaved heads, runs "Let the deserving
sit down as slaves and rise as freemen" ("Bene meriti servi sedeant,
surgant liberi"). It appears that at Terracina slaves could take
sanctuary at her altar: this would be a Greek rather than a Roman
custom.


This is probably also the "dies natalis" of a temple of Pietas
(Piety), since Pietas is mentioned with Fortuna Primigenia in a
inscription of the second century AD. Her temple in the Forum
Holitorium was vowed by M. Acilius Glabrio at Thermolpylae (191) and
dedicated by his son ten years later. In it was a gilded statue of the
father, the first of its kind in Rome.The temple was destroyed in 44
B.C. to make room for the Theatre of Marcellus. One aspect of Pietas
was the relationship of parent and children, and this temple was
connected with the (Greek) story of a daughter who supplied her
imprisoned father or mother with her own milk. The connection may have
arisen from the nearby Columna (Lactaria), where infants in need of
milk were brought.


Valete bene!

Cato
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88787 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-14
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Lentulus A. Iulio Paterculo s. p. d.

Thank you very much dear Paterculus!

Vale optimé!

--- Lun 5/11/12, Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@...
Da: Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 5 novembre 2012, 16:18
















 









Congratulations, Cn. Lentule and other residents of Burgus Rostallo,

for your successful first year!

























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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88788 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-14
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Lentulus Ti. Ovidio s. p. d.

Thank you very much. We are trying!

Vale optime, Aquila!

Lentulus leg. pr. pr. Pannoniae

--- Mar 6/11/12, Chad Stricklin <stricklin_c@...
Da: Chad Stricklin <stricklin_c@... Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
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Congrats to the group.



Valete,



Ti. Ovidius Aquila



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88789 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-14
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Lentulus C. Aemilio Crasso optimo s. p. d.

Gratias tibi ago, Crasse! What are the news from Hispania?

Vale optime!
Lentulus

--- Lun 5/11/12, C. Aemilius Crassus <c.aemilius.crassus@...
Da: C. Aemilius Crassus <c.aemilius.crassus@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Lunedì 5 novembre 2012, 17:13
















 









C. Aemilius Crassus Lentulo omnibusque SPD,



My congratulations to you and to all citizens of Colonia Rostallo.



Valete optime.



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88790 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2012-11-16
Subject: Re: Burgus Rostallo celebrated its 1st Anniversary
Crassus Lentulo SPD,

Well Hispania is a lot quite at the moment, but we will re emerge as an
active province.

Vale optime amice,
Crassus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88791 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-16
Subject: Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles Pleb
Ex officio Tribuni Plebis.
A call for Candidates is hereby issued for the offices of Tribuni Plebis
and Aediles Plebis. The elected candidates will have their terms of
office
begin AUC MMDCCLXV a.d. IV Idus Dec. (10 December 2012). Any and all Assidui
Plebeian Citizens who wish to serve the Respublica and the People
for the next year shall:

( I ) declare their candidacy to the current Tribuni Plebis at the email address:
aulusliburnushadrianus@...
 
and
 
( II ) announce their intention to run for office before the Comitia Plebis Tributa:

ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com


Announcements
of candidacy for these offices that are made to any other official Nova
Roma lists are allowed but will not meet the requirements
needed to be recognized as a candidate. All who seek candidacy MUST post their announcement to the Comitia Plebis Tributa.

Eligibility Requirements:

Tribunus Plebis - (5 positions available) -
Candidates must be Cives in good standing for at least six full months before
taking office; members of the Plebeian Order, Assidui today (16
Nov. 2012), and at least 25 years of age by AUC MMDCCLXIV a.d. IV Idus Dec (10 Dec 2012).
 
Aedilis Plebis - (2 positions available) -

Candidates must be Cives in good standing for at least six full months before
taking office; members of the Plebeian Order, Assidui today (16
Nov. 2012), and at least 21 years of age by AUC MMDCCLXIV a.d. IV Idus Dec
(10 Dec. 2012). Candidates for Aedilis Plebis must also have
served at least six months as a Tribunus Plebis, Quaestor, Magister
Aranearius, Editor Commentariorum, or Provincial Gubenator; or they must
have served as a scribe to one of the current Aediles Plebis for at least six months.
Di vos incolumes custodiant.
Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88792 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-21
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis a
Cn. Lentulus A. Liburnio tribuno plebis s. p. d.

Esteemed Tribune, I would like to call your attention to a minor mistake in your call for candidates. You listed the following as a requirement for aedilis plebis:

"Candidates for Aedilis Plebis must also have served at least six months as a Tribunus Plebis, Quaestor, Magister Aranearius, Editor Commentariorum, or Provincial Gubenator; or they must have served as a scribe to one of the current Aediles Plebis for at least six months."

This is taken from http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Arminia_de_cursu_honorum_%28Nova_Roma%29

But this is not the law anymore. You probably did not notice that the law that required this had been repealed in 2008:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Livia_de_lege_Arminia_abroganda_%28Nova_Roma%29

This means that plebeian aediles have now the same requirements as tribunes for candidacy.

Hope I could help!

VALE!
Cn. Lentulus

--- Sab 17/11/12, Bruno Zani <reenbru@...
Da: Bruno Zani <reenbru@... Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles Plebis
A: "Tribunes@yahoogroups.com" <Tribunes@yahoogroups.com Cc: "ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com" <ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com Data: Sabato 17 novembre 2012, 03:18
















 









Ex officio Tribuni Plebis.

A call for Candidates is hereby issued for the offices of Tribuni Plebis

and Aediles Plebis. The elected candidates will have their terms of

office

begin AUC MMDCCLXV a.d. IV Idus Dec. (10 December 2012). Any and all Assidui

Plebeian Citizens who wish to serve the Respublica and the People

for the next year shall:



( I ) declare their candidacy to the current Tribuni Plebis at the email address:

aulusliburnushadrianus@...

 

and

 

( II ) announce their intention to run for office before the Comitia Plebis Tributa:



ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com



Announcements

of candidacy for these offices that are made to any other official Nova

Roma lists are allowed but will not meet the requirements

needed to be recognized as a candidate. All who seek candidacy MUST post their announcement to the Comitia Plebis Tributa.



Eligibility Requirements:



Tribunus Plebis - (5 positions available) -

Candidates must be Cives in good standing for at least six full months before

taking office; members of the Plebeian Order, Assidui today (16

Nov. 2012), and at least 25 years of age by AUC MMDCCLXIV a.d. IV Idus Dec (10 Dec 2012).

 

Aedilis Plebis - (2 positions available) -



Candidates must be Cives in good standing for at least six full months before

taking office; members of the Plebeian Order, Assidui today (16

Nov. 2012), and at least 21 years of age by AUC MMDCCLXIV a.d. IV Idus Dec

(10 Dec. 2012). Candidates for Aedilis Plebis must also have

served at least six months as a Tribunus Plebis, Quaestor, Magister

Aranearius, Editor Commentariorum, or Provincial Gubenator; or they must

have served as a scribe to one of the current Aediles Plebis for at least six months.

Di vos incolumes custodiant.

Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88793 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2012-11-21
Subject: Re: Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles
P. Annæus Constantinus Placidus Cn. Lentulo omnibusque S.P.D.

I already sent my candidacy as plebeian ædile because I have all the
requirements in the previous message, and of course all the ones for the
tribunes. However, I am currently holding that same office, and I shall
hold it until the end of 2012. Is my new candidacy acceptable or do I
have to wait?

Optime vale, et valete.
Placidus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88794 From: C. Maria Caeca Date: 2012-11-22
Subject: Happy Holiday!
Salvete omnes!

Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends, and to the rest of you, I hope you have a wonderful day!

Valete quam optime!
C. Maria Caeca

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88795 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2012-11-22
Subject: Re: Happy Holiday!
Salve Caeca,

Thank you amica.

My wishes of a happy thanksgiving to all American Nova Roman too.

Valete optime,
Crassus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88796 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2012-11-22
Subject: Re: Call for candidates to the office of Tribuni Plebis and Aediles
Q Caecilius Metellus P Annaeo Constantino Placido s.d.

Your candidacy is subject to the terms of the Lex Salicia de
Prorogatione et Cumulatione (Salician law regarding prorogation and
cumulation), specifically, its Paragraph III. There is, however, a
senatus consultum from late last year which may have suspended this
provision; though at the moment, I haven't the availability to review
the text and speak on that point.

The Lex Salicia can be found:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Salicia_de_prorogatione_et_cumulatione_%28Nova_Roma%29
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88797 From: Gaius Petronius Dexter Date: 2012-11-23
Subject: test
C. Petronius omnibus salutem,
It is just a test of connection.
Valete.

--
C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IX Kalendas Decembres MMDCCLXV


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88798 From: James V Hooper Date: 2012-11-23
Subject: Re: test
Clear as a bell, Dexter


On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:28:49 +0100
Gaius Petronius Dexter <c.petronius.dexter@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88799 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-26
Subject: Election of plebeian magistrates.
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro salutem plurimam dicit.

Plebeians,
We are now near the end of the term for the current people's tribunes and aediles and a call has already gone out for the election of a new set plebeian magistrates.

We need to replace five tribunes and  two aediles as their term will expire on December 10 2012, and is of now there are no candidates.
.
The requirements for both positions are minimal as these are entry positions in the "cursus honorum": you must be a plebeian, an assiduus/assidua ( tax paying citizen)  for at least six months and be at least 25 years old.

I encourage any plebeian who wants to support Nova Roma to throw his/her hat in the ring and come forward as the window to elect replacement magistrates for 2013 is getting awfully close. Nova Roma can not afford to operate without plebeian support.
 
The role of the tribune is primarily to defend and protect plebeian interests and liberty, thus preserving the democratic form of government. Their responsibilities include  keeping  the people informed of all senate decisions and protecting any citizen (plebeian or patrician) from legal abuses.

The role of the aedilis is mostly limited at organizing games, thus showing the skills necessary to a successful political career.

As I stated: we plebeians have little time left to vote and elect new plebeian magistrates.

Please, plebeians, candidate now!

Optime valete.
A. Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88800 From: tituspompeiuscorvinus@yahoo.com Date: 2012-11-26
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Salve,

If I were eligible I would gladly show my interest in candidacy but unfortunately I am still not of age, being only 22. If it is at all possible however, I would like to out forward for any form of candidacy possible.

Valete optime,

Titus pompeius corvinus

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88801 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2012-11-26
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Q Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem dicit.

As with T Pompeius, I too am willing to serve the People as tribunus
plebis (tribune of the plebs), however, despite meeting the legal
requirements A Liburnius stated, laws prevent those currently serving
as custos (electoral overseer) or diribitor (vote counter) from
appearing as candidates on the ballots: the only means by which one
such could be elected is if the voters write the individual into the
ballot directly.

However, given the dearth of candidates, perhaps one of those
distinguished former tribuni plebis (tribunes of the plebs) who are
still among our number might be willing to stand as candidates. Two
individuals immediately come to my mind for consideration: the
distinguished senior praetor and my fellow pontifex C Petronius Dexter,
and the distinguished junior consul, augur, and long-standing citizen C
Tullius Valerianus Germanicus (yes, he is as tall as his name
suggests). I suspect there are other former tribuni and aediles plebis
among our number worth consideration as well; I certainly hope we do
not have to see the year begin without tribunes, and I thank P Annaeus
for his demonstrated willingness to take up the aedileship once again
lest that too be vacant.

May Ceres continue her protection and patronage of the plebeian order!


Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88802 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Lentulus T. Pompeio s. p. d.

I hope the senate would consider lowering the age requirement temporarily. They have this power.  Perhaps the idea needs a little pushing?

Vale!
LENT.



--- Mar 27/11/12, tituspompeiuscorvinus@... <tituspompeiuscorvinus@...
Da: tituspompeiuscorvinus@... <tituspompeiuscorvinus@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Data: Martedì 27 novembre 2012, 00:46
















 









Salve,



If I were eligible I would gladly show my interest in candidacy but unfortunately I am still not of age, being only 22. If it is at all possible however, I would like to out forward for any form of candidacy possible.



Valete optime,



Titus pompeius corvinus



Sent from my iPhone



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88803 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Salvete!

I echo the words of our esteemed Q. Metellus pontifex.

Those of you who paid the tax, now it's time to take its fruit, and to enter the senate and gain the privileges (and f course, to do the work) as tribunus plebis.

And those of you who are shier (is it written that way?), run for aedilis! I'm sure you will enjoy organizing some ludi!

Curate ut valeatis!
Cn. Lentulus pontifex

--- Mar 27/11/12, Q Caecilius Metellus <q.caecilius.metellus@...
Da: Q Caecilius Metellus <q.caecilius.metellus@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.
A: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Martedì 27 novembre 2012, 05:18
















 









Q Caecilius Metellus Quiritibus salutem dicit.



As with T Pompeius, I too am willing to serve the People as tribunus

plebis (tribune of the plebs), however, despite meeting the legal

requirements A Liburnius stated, laws prevent those currently serving

as custos (electoral overseer) or diribitor (vote counter) from

appearing as candidates on the ballots: the only means by which one

such could be elected is if the voters write the individual into the

ballot directly.



However, given the dearth of candidates, perhaps one of those

distinguished former tribuni plebis (tribunes of the plebs) who are

still among our number might be willing to stand as candidates. Two

individuals immediately come to my mind for consideration: the

distinguished senior praetor and my fellow pontifex C Petronius Dexter,

and the distinguished junior consul, augur, and long-standing citizen C

Tullius Valerianus Germanicus (yes, he is as tall as his name

suggests). I suspect there are other former tribuni and aediles plebis

among our number worth consideration as well; I certainly hope we do

not have to see the year begin without tribunes, and I thank P Annaeus

for his demonstrated willingness to take up the aedileship once again

lest that too be vacant.



May Ceres continue her protection and patronage of the plebeian order!



Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus

























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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88804 From: tituspompeiuscorvinus@yahoo.com Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Perhaps but surely it is frowned upon to vote for one as young as I? If the senate were to lower the age I would certainly be interested in applying for candidacy. I need to make more of an effort to serve NR and this would be a viable opportunity.

I shall see what I can do.

Vale,

TPC

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88805 From: William Dowie Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
I would love to stand for office as a Plebian Tribune, but my citizenship status has not been upgraded since I paid my current and back taxes last Spring. I have been a citizen for over twelve years and I am 43 years old.

C. Quinctius Flamininus


________________________________
From: Bruno Zani <reenbru@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.


 
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro salutem plurimam dicit.

Plebeians,
We are now near the end of the term for the current people's tribunes and aediles and a call has already gone out for the election of a new set plebeian magistrates.

We need to replace five tribunes and  two aediles as their term will expire on December 10 2012, and is of now there are no candidates.
.
The requirements for both positions are minimal as these are entry positions in the "cursus honorum": you must be a plebeian, an assiduus/assidua ( tax paying citizen)  for at least six months and be at least 25 years old.

I encourage any plebeian who wants to support Nova Roma to throw his/her hat in the ring and come forward as the window to elect replacement magistrates for 2013 is getting awfully close. Nova Roma can not afford to operate without plebeian support.
 
The role of the tribune is primarily to defend and protect plebeian interests and liberty, thus preserving the democratic form of government. Their responsibilities include  keeping  the people informed of all senate decisions and protecting any citizen (plebeian or patrician) from legal abuses.

The role of the aedilis is mostly limited at organizing games, thus showing the skills necessary to a successful political career.

As I stated: we plebeians have little time left to vote and elect new plebeian magistrates.

Please, plebeians, candidate now!

Optime valete.
A. Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88806 From: Robert Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Ave,

You could email me to confirm if your taxes are paid. I do have the tax rolls on my home pc. Send me an email and I'll check when I get home.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88807 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Lentulus C. Quinctio Flaminino s. p. d.

That's a honor to see such a long standing old citizen in our forum! It clearly shows Nova Roma lives, and will live, until people like honorable C. Quinctius Flamininus are among us, holding the line, waving the flag.

C. Flaminine, if I remember well, you had your entire family as citizens of Nova Roma; are they still with us all?

Vale optimé, valeteque omnes!
LENTVLVS

--- Mar 27/11/12, William Dowie <swjagatai@...
Da: William Dowie <swjagatai@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Data: Martedì 27 novembre 2012, 18:45
















 









I would love to stand for office as a Plebian Tribune, but my citizenship status has not been upgraded since I paid my current and back taxes last Spring. I have been a citizen for over twelve years and I am 43 years old.



C. Quinctius Flamininus



________________________________

From: Bruno Zani <reenbru@...
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.





 

A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro salutem plurimam dicit.



Plebeians,

We are now near the end of the term for the current people's tribunes and aediles and a call has already gone out for the election of a new set plebeian magistrates.



We need to replace five tribunes and  two aediles as their term will expire on December 10 2012, and is of now there are no candidates.

.

The requirements for both positions are minimal as these are entry positions in the "cursus honorum": you must be a plebeian, an assiduus/assidua ( tax paying citizen)  for at least six months and be at least 25 years old.



I encourage any plebeian who wants to support Nova Roma to throw his/her hat in the ring and come forward as the window to elect replacement magistrates for 2013 is getting awfully close. Nova Roma can not afford to operate without plebeian support.

 

The role of the tribune is primarily to defend and protect plebeian interests and liberty, thus preserving the democratic form of government. Their responsibilities include  keeping  the people informed of all senate decisions and protecting any citizen (plebeian or patrician) from legal abuses.



The role of the aedilis is mostly limited at organizing games, thus showing the skills necessary to a successful political career.



As I stated: we plebeians have little time left to vote and elect new plebeian magistrates.



Please, plebeians, candidate now!



Optime valete.

A. Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88808 From: Robert Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Ave,

The senate has a mechanism in place for age exemptions. Contact the tribunes and the consuls for guidance

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88809 From: gaius_pompeius_marcellus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: To the Consuls
To the consuls;
Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
Gnaeus Julius Caesar
Salve,
I Gaius Pompeius Marcellus, here by give this notice that I do not wish to serve another term as govenor. I here by recomend that you consider Marcus Pomeius Caninus, of America Boreoccidentalis, for this position. I regret to say I do not have a succesor for America Medioccidentalis Superior at this time, perhaps the noble Caninus will consent to fill both positions as I have had this last year.
Vale,
Gaius Pompeius Marcellus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88810 From: Gaius Tullius Valerianus Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Salve Metelle,

You are correct; I, for one, am willing to serve. There is no reason for
next year to begin without a full slate of tribunes.
Vale.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Q Caecilius Metellus <
q.caecilius.metellus@...
--
Gaius Tullius Valerianus

Augur of Nova Roma
Lictor Curiatus of Nova Roma
Consul of Nova Roma
Praefectus of Arizona Australis


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88811 From: William Dowie Date: 2012-11-27
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Yes, they are. We haven't been active in politics, but we do practice the Religio. 


________________________________
From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.


 
Lentulus C. Quinctio Flaminino s. p. d.

That's a honor to see such a long standing old citizen in our forum! It clearly shows Nova Roma lives, and will live, until people like honorable C. Quinctius Flamininus are among us, holding the line, waving the flag.

C. Flaminine, if I remember well, you had your entire family as citizens of Nova Roma; are they still with us all?

Vale optimé, valeteque omnes!
LENTVLVS

--- Mar 27/11/12, William Dowie <swjagatai@...
Da: William Dowie <swjagatai@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Data: Martedì 27 novembre 2012, 18:45

 

I would love to stand for office as a Plebian Tribune, but my citizenship status has not been upgraded since I paid my current and back taxes last Spring. I have been a citizen for over twelve years and I am 43 years old.

C. Quinctius Flamininus

________________________________

From: Bruno Zani <reenbru@...
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.

 

A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro salutem plurimam dicit.

Plebeians,

We are now near the end of the term for the current people's tribunes and aediles and a call has already gone out for the election of a new set plebeian magistrates.

We need to replace five tribunes and  two aediles as their term will expire on December 10 2012, and is of now there are no candidates.

.

The requirements for both positions are minimal as these are entry positions in the "cursus honorum": you must be a plebeian, an assiduus/assidua ( tax paying citizen)  for at least six months and be at least 25 years old.

I encourage any plebeian who wants to support Nova Roma to throw his/her hat in the ring and come forward as the window to elect replacement magistrates for 2013 is getting awfully close. Nova Roma can not afford to operate without plebeian support.

 

The role of the tribune is primarily to defend and protect plebeian interests and liberty, thus preserving the democratic form of government. Their responsibilities include  keeping  the people informed of all senate decisions and protecting any citizen (plebeian or patrician) from legal abuses.

The role of the aedilis is mostly limited at organizing games, thus showing the skills necessary to a successful political career.

As I stated: we plebeians have little time left to vote and elect new plebeian magistrates.

Please, plebeians, candidate now!

Optime valete.

A. Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88812 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
Lentulus Flaminino sal.

You did the right thing.

Vale!

--- Mar 27/11/12, William Dowie <swjagatai@...
Da: William Dowie <swjagatai@... Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.
A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Data: Martedì 27 novembre 2012, 22:53
















 









Yes, they are. We haven't been active in politics, but we do practice the Religio. 



________________________________

From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:10 PM

Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.





 

Lentulus C. Quinctio Flaminino s. p. d.



That's a honor to see such a long standing old citizen in our forum! It clearly shows Nova Roma lives, and will live, until people like honorable C. Quinctius Flamininus are among us, holding the line, waving the flag.



C. Flaminine, if I remember well, you had your entire family as citizens of Nova Roma; are they still with us all?



Vale optimé, valeteque omnes!

LENTVLVS



--- Mar 27/11/12, William Dowie <swjagatai@...


Da: William Dowie <swjagatai@...
Oggetto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.

A: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Data: Martedì 27 novembre 2012, 18:45



 



I would love to stand for office as a Plebian Tribune, but my citizenship status has not been upgraded since I paid my current and back taxes last Spring. I have been a citizen for over twelve years and I am 43 years old.



C. Quinctius Flamininus



________________________________



From: Bruno Zani <reenbru@...


To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM



Subject: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.



 



A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro salutem plurimam dicit.



Plebeians,



We are now near the end of the term for the current people's tribunes and aediles and a call has already gone out for the election of a new set plebeian magistrates.



We need to replace five tribunes and  two aediles as their term will expire on December 10 2012, and is of now there are no candidates.



.



The requirements for both positions are minimal as these are entry positions in the "cursus honorum": you must be a plebeian, an assiduus/assidua ( tax paying citizen)  for at least six months and be at least 25 years old.



I encourage any plebeian who wants to support Nova Roma to throw his/her hat in the ring and come forward as the window to elect replacement magistrates for 2013 is getting awfully close. Nova Roma can not afford to operate without plebeian support.



 



The role of the tribune is primarily to defend and protect plebeian interests and liberty, thus preserving the democratic form of government. Their responsibilities include  keeping  the people informed of all senate decisions and protecting any citizen (plebeian or patrician) from legal abuses.



The role of the aedilis is mostly limited at organizing games, thus showing the skills necessary to a successful political career.



As I stated: we plebeians have little time left to vote and elect new plebeian magistrates.



Please, plebeians, candidate now!



Optime valete.



A. Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis.



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88813 From: William Dowie Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Election of plebeian magistrates.
I am officially announcing my candidacy for the office of Plebeian Tribune. I am an assiduus, 43 years old and have been a citizen for over 12 years. 

C. Quinctius Flamininus

________________________________
From: Bruno Zani <reenbru@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Election of plebeian magistrates.


 
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro salutem plurimam dicit.

Plebeians,
We are now near the end of the term for the current people's tribunes and aediles and a call has already gone out for the election of a new set plebeian magistrates.

We need to replace five tribunes and  two aediles as their term will expire on December 10 2012, and is of now there are no candidates.
.
The requirements for both positions are minimal as these are entry positions in the "cursus honorum": you must be a plebeian, an assiduus/assidua ( tax paying citizen)  for at least six months and be at least 25 years old.

I encourage any plebeian who wants to support Nova Roma to throw his/her hat in the ring and come forward as the window to elect replacement magistrates for 2013 is getting awfully close. Nova Roma can not afford to operate without plebeian support.
 
The role of the tribune is primarily to defend and protect plebeian interests and liberty, thus preserving the democratic form of government. Their responsibilities include  keeping  the people informed of all senate decisions and protecting any citizen (plebeian or patrician) from legal abuses.

The role of the aedilis is mostly limited at organizing games, thus showing the skills necessary to a successful political career.

As I stated: we plebeians have little time left to vote and elect new plebeian magistrates.

Please, plebeians, candidate now!

Optime valete.
A. Liburnius Hadrianus, Tribunus Plebis.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88814 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Important - Please Read about Elections
Avete Omnes,

It is that wonderful time of year that Nova Roma begins to go through the
election cycle again. Our yearly ritual of fun, mudslinging and verbal
attacks are a tradition dating back to the near founding of Nova Roma.
However, this year is different.

This past week I have been notified that Nova Roma is going through an IRS
Audit. As some of you know, well hopefully all of you know for the past
year my entire focus has been geared around securing Nova Romas Finances
and that has been just about successfully resolved. Now with this IRS
audit my time and effort is going to be focused on dealing with the
Internal Revenue Service to ensure that any and all information they
request is given to them in an timely manner for their review and possible
questions. But, I will not be alone in this process. The Consuls, who are
Co-Presidents of the Organization will need to be involved as well.

It is because of that I am making this statement to each citizen of the Res
Publica. If you have an ambition to run for Consul PLEASE, I beg you, make
sure you have the time to dedicate for the job. And, if you need to appear
at an IRS meeting, you are able to met that obligation as well.

The first meeting is supposed to be December 6th in Rhode Island. That
meeting has been postponed. But, in the event that there is going to be a
face to face meeting, I know I have to be there. And whoever will be the
Consuls for the coming year - there is a likelihood they (or at least one
of them) will need to attend as well.

Just for everyone's information we are being audited for Fiscal Year 2010.
A year that I was not CFO, which also makes the situation a bit more
complicated, but in the end it will be resolved.

This issue is important enough, given the upcoming elections that whoever
has the ambition to hold the office will actually need to make certain that
they can TRULY dedicate their time and money to. Because we cannot and
will not lose our Not for profit status. And, the upcoming consuls and I
will need to make every effort to work together to ensure that our
protections of a not for profit is maintained in excellent status.

Respectfully,

Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88815 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Salve Sulla,
 
Do you know how Nova Roma is evaluated by Moody's or Standard and Poor's?
 
Vale.
 
C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. III Kalendas Decembres MMDCCLXV 
 

________________________________
De : Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... À : "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Jeudi 29 novembre 2012 2h37
Objet : [Nova-Roma] Important - Please Read about Elections


 

Avete Omnes,

It is that wonderful time of year that Nova Roma begins to go through the
election cycle again. Our yearly ritual of fun, mudslinging and verbal
attacks are a tradition dating back to the near founding of Nova Roma.
However, this year is different.

This past week I have been notified that Nova Roma is going through an IRS
Audit. As some of you know, well hopefully all of you know for the past
year my entire focus has been geared around securing Nova Romas Finances
and that has been just about successfully resolved. Now with this IRS
audit my time and effort is going to be focused on dealing with the
Internal Revenue Service to ensure that any and all information they
request is given to them in an timely manner for their review and possible
questions. But, I will not be alone in this process. The Consuls, who are
Co-Presidents of the Organization will need to be involved as well.

It is because of that I am making this statement to each citizen of the Res
Publica. If you have an ambition to run for Consul PLEASE, I beg you, make
sure you have the time to dedicate for the job. And, if you need to appear
at an IRS meeting, you are able to met that obligation as well.

The first meeting is supposed to be December 6th in Rhode Island. That
meeting has been postponed. But, in the event that there is going to be a
face to face meeting, I know I have to be there. And whoever will be the
Consuls for the coming year - there is a likelihood they (or at least one
of them) will need to attend as well.

Just for everyone's information we are being audited for Fiscal Year 2010.
A year that I was not CFO, which also makes the situation a bit more
complicated, but in the end it will be resolved.

This issue is important enough, given the upcoming elections that whoever
has the ambition to hold the office will actually need to make certain that
they can TRULY dedicate their time and money to. Because we cannot and
will not lose our Not for profit status. And, the upcoming consuls and I
will need to make every effort to work together to ensure that our
protections of a not for profit is maintained in excellent status.

Respectfully,

Sulla

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88816 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Ave!

You are referring to Moody's Investor Services, correct?
And you are referring to McGraw Hill's Standard and Poor's the company that
publishes analytics and stocks and bond analysis?

I do not think they evaluate not for profits. Not only that but we are not
a publicly traded company so we would not be S&P. Moody's COULD evaluate
NR if they have the time and inclination but I would hazard to guess that
there are literally millions of other not for profits that they would
evaluate before they would even consider evaluating Nova Roma. Why do you
ask?

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jean-Fran�ois Arnoud
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88817 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Ave Sulla,
 
My asking was to make a comparison between Nova Roma and my country, indeed France which is not more a profit entreprise but a free nation, had the 3 A untill the last month but now is less evaluated by Moody's which yet was less evaluated by Standard and Poor's first. And I was curious on a possible evaluation of Nova Roma by those financial companies since we are living only in a wonderfull world of money...
 
Do we have to suggest to create a public worship for the goddess Pecunia Ultraliberalis? Nova Roma must in accordance with our times.
 
Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. Kalendas Decembres MMDCCLXV 
 

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De : Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... À : Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Jeudi 29 novembre 2012 5h01
Objet : Re: [Nova-Roma] Important - Please Read about Elections

Ave!

You are referring to Moody's Investor Services, correct?
And you are referring to McGraw Hill's Standard and Poor's the company that
publishes analytics and stocks and bond analysis?

I do not think they evaluate not for profits.  Not only that but we are not
a publicly traded company so we would not be S&P.  Moody's COULD evaluate
NR if they have the time and inclination but I would hazard to guess that
there are literally millions of other not for profits that they would
evaluate before they would even consider evaluating Nova Roma.  Why do you
ask?

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jean-François Arnoud
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88818 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2012-11-28
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Ave!

Well the US has and will continue to have its own credit rating
decline....Yes I read about the French rating take that hit earlier this
week.

Moody's and S&P are just two entities that deal with the credit ratings
there are other organizations too, the one I am most familiar with are Duns
and Bradstreet in a more business environment. But really every credit
reporting agency like Experian, Transunion and Equafax are just as eligible
and they do evaluate businesses, both for profit and not for profit.

These evaluations are one of the ways one can research and find out about
administrative costs, the business health and the fundings of such not for
profits. Which in comparing Nova Roma to say an organization like the
United Way Nova Roma compares much more favorable because we have such
little overhead since none of us draw a salary from the organization.

With all due respect I think the last thing we would want is to have some
kind of outside organization evaluate Nova Roma for purposes of investment
and analysis. They would have to review all of our records, saved messages
on the archives, since our business is all conducted online....I would
imagine none of us would come out smelling like roses during that
analysis. I am concerned already having to explain to the IRS agent about
the loss of our CFO and why the transition to getting control of our bank
account has taken over a year. Also, when they review the minutes of the
board meetings for 2010 the questions they will come up with during the
period of the civil war. Yeah....umm...you see what I mean?

Any worship would be beneficial. In the end* *Nova Roma will be in
accordance to our times. I hope this answers your questions.

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Jean-Fran�ois Arnoud
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88819 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2012-11-29
Subject: Re: Important - Please Read about Elections
Cn. Caesar consul sal.

Dealing with the IRS is a necessity. Sulla has been saying for years, as have I and others, that corporate compliance is not an option, it is mandatory. As to gaining control of the Bank of America (BoA) accounts, I would like to publicly congratulate our CFO Sulla on a sterling job in pushing this through, together with our censor, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, in the face of at times an impenetrable wall of regulations and requirements from the BoA. Of course the reason we got stuck in this position was that previous administrations kept a tight hold on the accounts and then bailed from Nova Roma, leaving no signatories on the main account. 

Trying to explain to an IRS auditor the ins and outs of Nova Roman politics and how the "civil war" played out and why it occurred and the linkage of that event to no signatories will be ... interesting. I wish the best of luck to the consuls who have to deal with that mess. It is vital however that the consuls for next year don't go on some antagonistic tirade confronting the auditor about Nova Roman "independence" etc. or come across as mentally unstable, de-focused and out of touch with reality. Tax auditors the world over need to be convinced of competence and since until recently (post "civil war") there hasn't been a majority in the Senate that understands the need to keep a clean corporate House, there may be many hours expended by the consuls in being grilled by the auditor over a legacy of issues.

Nova Roma does not yet carry corporate insurance so none of the senators (directors) or officers (magistrates - praetor, consul and censor) have full financial protection from liability. Whoever signs up as consul for next year's barrel of stinking fish left over from the old regime needs to be cognizant of that. I believe that the vacuum hose of the IRS could extend into their pockets along with the rest of us in the Senate if Nova Roma was to be found seriously remiss in its handling of business.   

Optime valete



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From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Important - Please Read about Elections

Ave!

Well the US has and will continue to have its own credit rating
decline....Yes I read about the French rating take that hit earlier this
week.

Moody's and S&P are just two entities that deal with the credit ratings
there are other organizations too, the one I am most familiar with are Duns
and Bradstreet in a more business environment.  But really every credit
reporting agency like Experian, Transunion and Equafax are just as eligible
and they do evaluate businesses, both for profit and not for profit.

These evaluations are one of the ways one can research and find out about
administrative costs, the business health and the fundings of such not for
profits.  Which in comparing Nova Roma to say an organization like the
United Way Nova Roma compares much more favorable because we have such
little overhead since none of us draw a salary from the organization.

With all due respect I think the last thing we would want is to have some
kind of outside organization evaluate Nova Roma for purposes of investment
and analysis.  They would have to review all of our records, saved messages
on the archives, since our business is all conducted online....I would
imagine none of us would come out smelling like roses during that
analysis.  I am concerned already having to explain to the IRS agent about
the loss of our CFO and why the transition to getting control of our bank
account has taken over a year.  Also, when they review the minutes of the
board meetings for 2010 the questions they will come up with during the
period of the civil war.  Yeah....umm...you see what I mean?

Any worship would be beneficial.  In the end* *Nova Roma will be in
accordance to our times.  I hope this answers your questions.

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Jean-François Arnoud
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88820 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2012-11-29
Subject: Re: Moody's
The only way I can see Moody evaluating a non-profit such as Nova Roma would be if the non-profit issued bonds or some other financial instrument that would be purchased by investors.

Caninus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88821 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-30
Subject: Election of Plebeian Magistrates
Ex officio Tribuni Plebis A. Liburni Hadriani

I hereby call the Comitia Plebis Tributa to order to elect the Plebeian Magistrates for 2766 aUc.

The contio will be held on the Comitia Plebis Tributa list and will last from 09:00 Roman
Time (CET) of Pr. Kal. Dec.. Nov. (November 30th) to 09:00 Roman Time of a.d. IV Non. Dec. (December 2nd).

The voting will be held from 09:01  Roman Time a.d.IV Non. Dec. (December 2nd) to 09:01 Roman Time a.d.Vi Id. Dec. (December 7th).


Further instructions on how and where to vote will be provided during the contio.

The elected Magistrates will take office on December 10.


For the office of Aedilis Plebis is standing:
None


For the office of Tribunus Plebis are standing:
Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
C. Quinctius Flamininus

Information about  the candidates can be found at:
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Elections_2766-Plebs_(Nova_Roma)


I remind the candidates that any statement or speech related to the elections posted on the ML may be also forwarded to the official
electoral board the "Comitia Plebis Tributa" at ComitiaPlebisTributa@yahoogroups.com


Di vos incolumes custodiant.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88822 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-30
Subject: Re: Election of Plebeian Magistrates - Contio is opened
Ex officio Tribuni Plebis A. Liburni Hadriani

I hereby declare the Contio period of the Comitia Plebis Tributa officialy opened.

The candidates may begin the debate period. The people may ask questions to the candidates.

Di vos incolumes custodiant.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 88823 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2012-11-30
Subject: Addition of M. Pompeius Caninus as a tribunician candidate
Ex officio A. Liburni Hadriani, tribuni plebis.


M. Pompeius Caninus has also filed for candidacy as a people's Tribune. His candidacy is approved and his name will be added to the ballot.

Valete Optime  

ALH trb. plb.


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