C. Petronius Dexter Pontifex Maximus omnibus Quiritibus salutem dicit
plurimam,



Today morning, capite velato, I invoked Iuno Covella by saying the
traditional

formula:



« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »

« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »

« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »

« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »

« Die te quinti kalo, Iuno Covella »



I offered incense and saying prayers I asked the Goddess to be favorable
toward us, the Quirites of Nova Roma, give us a happy year and good health
for 2766.

This month the nundinal letter is "F".



The festivals to be celebrated in the month of February shall be:



FEBRVARIVS




1 H Kal. Feb. N

2 A a.d. IV Non. Feb. N Ater

3 B a.d. III Non. Feb. N

4 C Pr. Non. Feb. N

5 D Non. Feb. N

6 E a.d. VIII Id. Feb. N Ater

7 F a.d. VII Id. Feb. N
Sementiva, Nundina

8 G a.d. VI Id. Feb. N

9 H a.d. V Id. Feb. N

10 A a.d. IV Id. Feb. N

11 B a.d. III Id. Feb. N

12 C Pr. Id. Feb. N

13 D Id. Feb. NP Feriae Iovi

14 E a.d. XVI Kal. Mart. N Ater

15 F a.d. XV Kal. Mart. NP Lupercalia,
Nundina

16 G a.d. XIV Kal. Mart. EN

17 H a.d. XIII Kal. Mart. NP Quirinalia

18 A a.d. XII Kal. Mart. C

19 B a.d. XI Kal. Mart. C

20 C a.d. X Kal. Mart. C

21 D a.d. IX Kal. Mart. F Feralia

22 E a.d. VIII Kal. Mart. C

23 F a.d. VII Kal. Mart. NP Terminalia,
Nundina

24 G a.d. VI Kal. Mart. N Regifugium

25 H a.d. V Kal. Mart. N

26 A a.d. IV Kal. Mart. C

27 B a.d. III Kal. Mart. EN Equirria

28 C Pr. Kal. Mart. NP Fornacalia



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At the end I poured a libation of milk thanking to the Goddess for Her

benevolence.



Optime valete.



--

C. Petronius Dexter

Arcoiali scribebat

Kalendis Februariis MMDCCLXVI





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Avete Omnes,

Just letting everyone know that I have the tax database updated as of 2/1.

If you wish to know if your payment has been received please email me
privately at robert.woolwine@...

Vale,

Sulla

Caesar sal.

Re the below:

"The following 7 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a vote or did not cast a vote on time and absence was not announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum on Defining a Quorum and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS:"

and

"Therefore, the necessary majority for a Senatus Consultum was 7 votes in favor."

First, the lec Octavia was repealed by the lex Popillia senatoria.

Secondly the  Senatus Consultum on Defining a Quorum was repealed by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.

Defining a quorum is dealt with under section XI of the  SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.

Please have the above errors corrected. 

Optime valete.


________________________________
From: M. Pompeius Caninus <caninus@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting




Marcus Pompeius Caninus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 29 Jan 2013 - IV Kal. Feb. MMDCCLXVI a.u.c.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 22-JAN-2013 : Call to order. Debate period commences.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-JAN-2013 : Debate period ends.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-JAN-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 28-JAN-2013 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 29-JAN-2013 : Call to close issued before this time.

Quorum was achieved, There were no announced absences.

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been tallied as follows:

The following 13 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in alphabetical order by nomen:

CAC    C. Aemilius Crassus

C. Petronius Quiritibus salutem,
 
The good side of a SC is that 7 votes in favor are enough to make the law in Nova Roma...
 
Optime valete.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IV Nonas Februarias MMDCCLXVI 


________________________________
De : Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@... À : "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Samedi 2 février 2013 18h32
Objet : Re: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting


 

Caesar sal.

Re the below:

"The following 7 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a vote or did not cast a vote on time and absence was not announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum on Defining a Quorum and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS:"

and

"Therefore, the necessary majority for a Senatus Consultum was 7 votes in favor."

First, the lec Octavia was repealed by the lex Popillia senatoria.

Secondly the  Senatus Consultum on Defining a Quorum was repealed by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.

Defining a quorum is dealt with under section XI of the  SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.

Please have the above errors corrected. 

Optime valete.

________________________________
From: M. Pompeius Caninus mailto:caninus%40caninus.co To: mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting

Marcus Pompeius Caninus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 29 Jan 2013 - IV Kal. Feb. MMDCCLXVI a.u.c.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 22-JAN-2013 : Call to order. Debate period commences.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-JAN-2013 : Debate period ends.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-JAN-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 28-JAN-2013 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 29-JAN-2013 : Call to close issued before this time.

Quorum was achieved, There were no announced absences.

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been tallied as follows:

The following 13 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in alphabetical order by nomen:

CAC    C. Aemilius Crassus



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Ave,

We had 12 votes not 7.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Caesar Dextro sal.

Under the Senate rules the quorum serves only one purpose, to determine if after counting official absences the Session can proceed. The quorum does not set a majority required. After the quorum is met, a majority of 1 vote will pass an item. That ensures no political tactics on absences mid-session can affect the result.

Optime vale 


________________________________
From: Jean-François Arnoud <jfarnoud94@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting


 
C. Petronius Quiritibus salutem,
 
The good side of a SC is that 7 votes in favor are enough to make the law in Nova Roma...
 
Optime valete.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IV Nonas Februarias MMDCCLXVI 


________________________________
De : Gnaeus Iulius Caesar gn_iulius_caesar@... À : "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Samedi 2 février 2013 18h32
Objet : Re: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting


 

Caesar sal.

Re the below:

"The following 7 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a vote or did not cast a vote on time and absence was not announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum on Defining a Quorum and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS:"

and

"Therefore, the necessary majority for a Senatus Consultum was 7 votes in favor."

First, the lec Octavia was repealed by the lex Popillia senatoria.

Secondly the  Senatus Consultum on Defining a Quorum was repealed by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.

Defining a quorum is dealt with under section XI of the  SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.

Please have the above errors corrected. 

Optime valete.

________________________________
From: M. Pompeius Caninus mailto:caninus%40caninus.co To: mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting

Marcus Pompeius Caninus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 29 Jan 2013 - IV Kal. Feb. MMDCCLXVI a.u.c.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 22-JAN-2013 : Call to order. Debate period commences.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-JAN-2013 : Debate period ends.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 26-JAN-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 28-JAN-2013 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 29-JAN-2013 : Call to close issued before this time.

Quorum was achieved, There were no announced absences.

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been tallied as follows:

The following 13 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in alphabetical order by nomen:

CAC    C. Aemilius Crassus



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I notice that the Amazon affiliates for Nova Roma are not set up. Is anybody going to take the initiative to set these up in the near future?

Marcus

I noticed there was no vote on the IRS Audit in the Senate. What is the status of this? Has it been resolved?

Marcus Tarquitius Paulinus

Ave,

You are correct it was just a discussion item keeping the senate informed of the progress.

The latest was that all of the information requested by the IRS has been submitted to them. They should have it all by now (about 200-250 pages of documentation). Once received they will review it - which the agent is probably doing now. He told me he will be in contact with me for a phone interview once he is done reviewing the material.

That is the latest. And, this item will be added to every senate call during my consulship until the audit is successfully closed - FYI.

Vale,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul and CFO of Nova Roma

Sent from my iPhone

Ave,

I believe we have an account with amazon...is this something different?

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

We have an account but the actual link just brings you to an amazon affiliate store that has been not set up yet.

At the very least this should be active. I would be interested in helping get this project moving as a first step to reestablishing the marketplace.

Marcus
Sent from my iPhone

Ave!

Ah this might be something worthy for our Curule Aedile to explore since
they traditionally along with the Censors work with the Marketplace. I
know the Ludi's take up alot of time but this sounds very promising too.
Thank you, I will get in contact with him.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Let me know if I can be of assistance.

Respectfully

Marcus

Sent from my iPhone

Ave!

Absolutely and thank you for the suggestion, very appreciated.

Respectfully,

Sulla

One thing I would recommend is that our bookstore feature not only books and DVDs on Ancient Rome organized with Amazon prebuilt categories but that the stores include a Foundations section and a Legacy section.

The Foundations section would focus on subjects that Ancient Rome was built on such as Greek history and philosophy, rhetoric, Latin, classic texts etc.

The Legacy section should focus on the influence that Ancient Rome had on history leading up to today. Everything such as the evolution of the common law to the rise and fall of Byzantium to the lingering influence of Ancient Rome on institutions of today such as the United Nations, the Roman Catholic Church and the EU. It is a great way to tie the legacy of Ancient Rome to today.

And every link to a book on the Nova Roma site and in the various mailing lists should be using the amazon affiliate code as should any courses that we promote and or run.

I would also suggest a book of the day or week that can be automated and featured on the main page.

Finally, the marketplace should be reborn eventually to incorporate the amazon bookstore organically.

Just my thoughts. This could be a first step in rebuilding the marketplace something I feel is important to diversify state revenue and give us the financial basis to use to promote our growth.

Marcus
Sent from my iPhone

Salve Marcus,

It's unusual for one to go by their Praenomen but I like the change :-)

What you may want to look into is offering your services to the Curule
Aedile to serve as a volunteer in the Aedilician Cohors. I know the
current Aedile could use the extra help.

Vale et Valete bene,
Aeternia


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Slave!
I am less unusual and more out if practice with custom but glad you like it!

I will volunteer my services to the appropriate person.

Vale

Marcus Tarquitius Paulinus
Sent from my iPhone

Salve Aeternia,

Silly question but how would I go about volunteering as you suggested?

Vale,

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

Ave,

Another suggestion, he could run for curule aedile suffectus once we have those elections.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

I think perhaps as I am new I should volunteer and prove my worth before running for office. Better to walk before I run!

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

Salve Sulla et Salvete Omnes,

Since Paulinus is a very new citizen it would probably be a wiser course to
spend time as a volunteer so that he could "learn the ropes" so to speak.
That is also just my opinion only.

Paulinus you want to know how to volunteer? Easy e-mail the current
Magistrate in question..

Here is the e-mail address of Placidus, ugo.coppola@...

Good Luck.


Vale et Valete bene,
Aeternia


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I agree and I have emailed the current magistrate in question. I await their reply,

Vale,

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

C. Maria Caeca M. Tarquitio Paulino S. P. D.



I applaud your attitude, Pauline. I think you are wise to serve as a
volunteer first, then serve as a scriba in some magistracies, so that you
can get some hands on experience before seeking a Curule magistracy.



Vale Bene!

C. Maria Caeca



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C. Aemilius Crassus omnibus SPD,

By request of Consul Sulla I would like to inform that the following
provinces have open positions for governor:

America austrorientalis
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_America_Austrorientalis_%28Nova_Roma%29

Australia
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_Australia_%28Nova_Roma%29

Guria
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_Guria_%28Nova_Roma%29

Hibernia
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Category:Provincia_Hibernia_%28Nova_Roma%29

Nipponia
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_Nipponia_%28Nova_Roma%29

Nova Britannia Ulterior
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_Nova_Britannia_Ulterior_%28Nova_Roma%29

Nova Hispania
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_Mexico_%28Nova_Roma%29

Thule
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_Thule_%28Nova_Roma%29

Any citizen living in one of the above provinces that wishes to
volunteer to be governor of the province should send me an email stating
the wish to serve as governor to my email:

cDOTaemiliusDOTcrassusATgmailDOTcom

The minimum qualifications are to be at least 21 years old and to have
assiduus status.

Valete optime.

Liburnio Scholaticae, Caesari, Canino Quiritibus omnibus S.P.D.

I prepared a draft report of the Senate session of November/December 2765 and forwarded to the new tribunes as neo-tribune Caninus had  graciously volunteered to proof it and make any needed correction.


I do not know what happened after Caninus confirmation to me that the report's correction was concluded.

If Caninus still has the corrected report, it should be submitted to the Senate for approval, and, once approved , published in the ML, the tribunician list and the Rome announce list.
I can still provide the original draft if it is necessary to restart from scratch.

Valete optime
ALH


________________________________
From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com ent: Monday, February 4, 2013 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting


 
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Salvete!


Actually, no. There was absolutely no problem with Yahoo or any other portion of cyberspace. I completed the edits, corrected the voting results and sent the draft to Caesar for approval. I did not get approval so I did not post it. The report for this past Senate session was sent to Sulla, who reviewed it and gave me a thumbs up. I then posted it. I was unaware of a need to publish it for the entire Senate to review prior to publishing on the Main List. Obviously, I need more instruction on current practices and hopefully a review by all of the Senators will not add a week or more delay to publishing the results for the benefit and enlightenment of the rest of the citizens. But I reported all of the votes and comments correctly, which I believe is the actual substance of the report. Unfortunately, I completely missed the citations of old laws. And it appears the BOD did not conduct a roll call or some other method to determine who was present for voting. I will post a correct report soon. I am also working on a revised report template to reflect changes in law from last year that Caesar point out. Perhaps the wording for the portion of the report regarding who did not vote could be toned down to a somewhat less accusatory statement?


Valete optime!


M. Pompeius Caninus


--------- Original Message ---------Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting
From: "A. Tullia Scholastica" <fororom@... Date: 2/4/13 3:40 pm
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

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Ave,


This is correct, I reviewed the vote totals that was my main primary focus.
When I had my phone conversation with Caninus I apologized to him for not
noticing the correction that Caesar mentioned to him. I should have caught.
I also missed the point Scholastica pointed out about Paulinus.

Is there a Tribune handbook out there floating around that would aid new
Tribunes? I think this would be a useful item to have on file on the NR
Wiki for current and future Tribunes of the Plebs.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Ave!

I will be sending an email to you this evening :) I apologize for the
lateness in response.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Salvete,


There is a handbook but the last revision was a few years ago. The Senate rules have changed and the handbook needs to be rewritten this year.


Valete bene.


Caninus


--------- Original Message ---------Subject: Re: Re: [Nova-Roma] Official Results of Senate Meeting
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... Date: 2/4/13 9:13 pm
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Ave,


This is correct, I reviewed the vote totals that was my main primary focus.
When I had my phone conversation with Caninus I apologized to him for not
noticing the correction that Caesar mentioned to him. I should have caught.
I also missed the point Scholastica pointed out about Paulinus.

Is there a Tribune handbook out there floating around that would aid new
Tribunes? I think this would be a useful item to have on file on the NR
Wiki for current and future Tribunes of the Plebs.

Respectfully,

Sulla

M. Iulius Scaeva omnibus S.P.D.
S.V.B.E.E.V.

Greetings fellow Nova Romans. It is good to be back amongst you after a protracted absence.

I have significant health issues but will strive to be as active as I am able within the confines of common sense.

I look forward to reconnecting with the citizens of Nova Roma.

Many thanks to Cn. Cornelius Lentulus for his indispensable assistance in straightening out my membership records which go back to the founding year 1998 at which time I was known as Magister Citronus Peto. This of course was before the reforming of the tria nomina that gave a more historical basis for the names of Nova Roman citizens.

I would also like to give special greetings to A.Tullia Scholastica who not only provided enjoyable lessons in Latin but also much sound advice as to general matters concerning Nova Roma. Gratias specialis ei ago ob auxilium bonum mihi semper dedit. She is a fine Roman citizen in the truest sense.

Vale Optime!

Avete Omnes,

When I was consul for the first time back in, wow uh 1999 I remember I
had a survey that went out the citizens via email to ask them a series
of questions about what drew them to Nova Roma and what improvements
they would like to see. I even think I dug out a copy of the survey I
sent out as I was moving. Well, I want to ask this question again.
Nova Roma is taking definitive steps towards fixing a number of the
key issues once and for all and now I would like to move to find
positive ways to improve the community.

Whether you are a brand new citizen or an older citizen who has been
in NR through the long haul what ideas suggestions do you have? I am
looking for anything...not necessarily legal pronouncements but if
that helps so be it.

I will even start with an idea that I just floated to the Curule
Aedile. A monthly essay type of contest. Each month would have a
different theme.

March: Roman History topic
April: Cultus Deorum topic
May: Roman Personality topic
June: The Virtues - similar to what Valerianus did last year.

Etc etc you get the idea,

Entries would be a minimum of 300 words (essentially 1 page) with a
requirement of 2 sources cited.

Winner would have the essay published on the Wiki - thus improving the NR wiki
Winner would earn $15.00 - payable to them - another motivation
Winner would have the winning essay published on the ML for
discussion, constructive criticism and debate.

What other ideas does anyone have?

Respectfully,

Sulla

M. Iulius Scaeva omnibus S.P.D.
S.V.B.E.E.V.

Cornelius Sulla touches upon a topic that I believe many of us both old and new struggle with in our association with Nova Roma. Why are we here? What has brought us together? What is it that we realistically want to accomplish here? I'm sure the answers to these questions are as varied as the members themselves.

I believe, to begin with, that we all share in common a love of those great and noble Roman traits and traditions from which or modern civilization was built upon. One cannot look at the modern world with its great expansive cities and highways and ignore the triumph of organizational and architectural achievement that the Romans passed on to us. They were grand planners, builders, and achievers. No one can deny the magnificence of the achievements they made while using only the most basic of tools, by today's standards, augmented by nothing more than shear will, determination, and a belief in their gods.

How do we then incorporate these same Roman ideals that we espouse here in Nova Roma into our daily lives? How do we exemplify these noble Romans and their customs that we idealize? There are many things we can do individually and collectively to accomplish these goals.

Sulla's suggestion of designating months to various Roman themes is a good one and should be given much consideration. Essay contests may be but only one example of how to honor and exemplify these themes. Other avenues could include artistic contests such as drawing, painting, sculpture, poetry, music, etc.

There are many endeavors of craft and skill that could be utilized in such exemplary fashion. I myself am a great fan of the legionary re-enactors both inside and outside of Nova Roma. The musical productions of such troops as Synaulia, Musica Romana, and Petros Tambouris are sights and sounds to behold and something that those of us with such talent should strive to reproduce. Theatrical events are also a great source of historical and informative narratives.

Whereas many of us are separated by great distances, I wonder if it may be feasible to have regular meetings via Skype or some other equivalent type of medium where all can interact in real time without the expense and burden of traveling around the globe. I realize that this would necessitate overcoming some scheduling logistics but it may go a long way to building better cohesion amongst Nova Romans if we had something akin to a virtual "Forum Romanum".

This is all just food for thought. I hope others will share their ideas as Sulla has suggested. We should keep this particular topic going; possibly designating a regular schedule for it.

Vale optime!

Salvete,

I was hoping for a little fun with a proper online forum to have a joke
or a proper conversation. Or even some online shopping with some gear
and jewelry with a cool Nova Roma SPQR logo on it. Not to be found.
Terra incognita.

I'll stay tuned to see what the talk of the updated website is about.


Vale optime!

Ave,

Well umm the fun list would be the back alley! That is where we take off out togas and well...mingle...crack jokes...talk about booze or the recent super bowl...then I occasionally post pictures and such... Think of it like the streets of the subura but in nova Roma.

While there has been some humor on the ml, it doesn't last long and there used to be minors on the list so we keep it clean.

The back alley has almost no restrictions.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Ave,

I'm not looking to make Catullus blush or scare away the children but
perhaps a little fun with pig Latin without bringing down the cruel hand
of Scholastica upon our heads would be nice.


Vale,

D. Mento

Ave!

Well don't let Scholastica fool ya! She is on the back alley and has been
known to crack jokes there too. :)

Oh and I forgot to mention just wait for the Ludi, that is the funny cup
runs over on the ML with smack talk on the various gangs competing for
colors.

But just for everyday fun that would be the back alley - it would probably
be the closest list that best represents the man on the street type of
humor.

Vale,

Sulla

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:12 PM, D. Cornelius Mento <
decimuscorneliusmento@...
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What is this back alley you speak of?

Salve Consul Sulla,
Not sure if this would be cost prohibitive or not... perhaps a nationwide
advertising campaign Explain what we are and what our mission is. Too many I
encounter have no idea it exists.
Vale, C. Pompeius Marcellus, Lpp AMS


On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:52:45 -0700
Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...

Ave!

Via what medium would you suggest?

Respectfully,

Sulla

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On 2/5/2013 8:54 PM, A. Tullia Scholastica wrote:
D. Mento says:
Yes, I am unacquainted with the fact you have a good sense of humor.



Still this format of confusing emails from yahoo repeating every
word in a conversation is confusing and not conducive for playful banter.







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In my opinion a logical place to start any publicity campaign for NR would be at the Classics/History departments of Universities. The best way would be a Roman Studies Group that would offer something concrete to the university community. At the very least posting NR flyers on campuses might yield some results.

Paulinus

Omnibus in foro S. P. D.



Scaeva, you have mentioned some interesting suggestions, but before I deal
much with them, you can find some creative efforts by joining the Sodalitas
Muserum, though someone else will need to provide you with the link. There
will find some poetry written by some citizens, much of which is on Roman
themes, some of which isn't, but qualifies for our purposes because it is
written by Nova Romans (smile).



I very much like the idea of regularly scheduled get togethers on line,
using Skype (which I would prefer, simply because it is fully accessible) or
some other method, until and unless we can create our own platform. While
this in no way replaces face to face events, (nothing can), I does allow for
people who are geographically widely scattered to get to know one another in
a more informal way, without the intercession of the written word, and to
interact in real time. As you say, scheduling will be tricky, but it can be
done .I have, with dear friends in Europe and England.



I also like the idea of formal essay competitions, though when we tried to
do this in conjunction with a couple of Ludi, we couldn't get participants.
Still, I think we should try again. Perhaps, with a longer lead time,
people will have time to prepare and submit entries. Right now, I think, it
is important to follow initiatives that require personal thought, work, and
effort, but cost little or nothing. As we become more healthy fiscally, we
can expand our horizons, and take on more expensive challenges. I'd love to
see, eventually, for example, a contest for a design appropriate for mugs
and other products .which we could sell not just to members, but to anyone
interested in the culture of ancient Rome.



But for anything to succeed, it is imperative that all of us, not just the
sponsoring magistrate or a few interested citizens, but ALL of us
participate. I can't count the number of times discussions have been
proposed, begun and languished because no one responded. We can do anything
and everything we want to do ..but unless we overcome our apathy, and decide
to make a commitment of effort and time for our projects, large or small,
they will not, and cannot, succeed.



As to having fun .well, the BA is one forum for that, and at some point I
hope we can recreate the Facebook type format one of our former citizens
made, which was very easy to use, and beginning to attract members, but
there is always Skype, Google Talk and other chat venues. Speaking of which
.how difficult would it be to create our own on line chat client? I doubt I
would be able to use it, because of my adaptive software, but other citizens
well might, and I think that it would solidify our sense of community.



Valete quam optime!

C. Maria Caeca



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Ave!

I think with the essays the key is going to be persistence and dedication
to promote it out and to offer some incentives for prizes hence my
suggestion earlier. Just offering them for the Ludi would be fine but they
can get lost in everything else that goes on in the Ludi. But, if they are
offered monthly with a small reward monthly that gets their own priority
and their own highlight within the wiki and the ML then it gives the entire
concept that much more incentive.

That was the motivation behind my suggestion for what it's worth.

And, in the end we develop more thorough articles on the Wiki instead of
the 1 or two sentence descriptions that previously been the trend for
updates on the Wiki.

Respectfully,

Sulla

C. Maria Caeca L. Cornelio Sullae Consuli S. P. D.

Oh, I don't disagree with you, and if this contest becomes a "tradition" and
is popular, a great deal of permanent good could come from it. If we do our
work well, we could make our WIKI a very interesting place indeed, and, with
new entries on a regular basis, attract and keep people coming to see what
we're doing. I think it's an excellent idea. Sooo ...what will our "maiden"
topic be?

Vale bene!
C. Maria Caeca

Ave!

Well I wouldn't want to step on our Aedile's toes at all since it would be
under his jurisdiction. But I did give him ample suggestions but he could
easily come up with ideas too. :) But, if I am going to run the program I
know I would like to have 3 judges who would not enter the contest.

Here is what I had sent to Aedile Placidus:

I think if we spell out the requirements like a minimum of 300 words
(1 page) with a minimum of 3 resources cited. And the prize for the
best essay would be about $15 dollars US. I think if we do this every
month and we change the topic for every month we could spark interest
and if no one participates we just move on to the net month and next
topic.

Here is what I am thinking:

March: Roman Personalities
April: Roman Religion topic
May: Roman History
June: The Virtues
July: Writer's choice
August: Roman Government
Sept: Nova Roman History/Event
October: Ethnic Minority Month Topic (Celtic, Jewish, Greek, etc etc)
November: The Arts/Technology
December: Writers Choice

Award: 15 dollars, essay listed on the Wiki - prominent place and the
Aedile posts the winning copy on the email list for discussion :)

So, if Placidus wishes to run the contest outstanding, if not.....then I
will be happy to.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Salvete omnes!

I like the idea and would participate. You might want to consider setting a maximum number of words so that 300 word essays are not in competition with 3000 word essays.

Valete!

Quadratus

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Cn. Lentulus q. L. Sullae cos. sal.

Great initiative, and I hope it meets success. I would like to offer my thoughts and suggestions about the idea.

I think that the rewards would not be a real motivation, since 15 $ aren't really mesmerising, and the Wiki is already open for any citizen to publish whatever they want; so having one's work published on the Wiki is not something exception, that should rather be the norm that able citizens write articles and add their researches to our depository and treasurey of scholarship, the NR Wiki. I'm sure there would still be a few persons who would participate, but surely not for these awards, but rather for fun and/or glory.

What I would suggest instead it is a Wiki article writing competition, which would better promote the idea that the Wiki is everyone's and all citizens are encourage to share their knowledge and researches on our website. Every month, citizens could enter their name to the list of competitors, and at every month's end a jury would decide the winner. The criteria for judging the competitors' work would be similar what you suggested: 1) accurate indication of sources, 2) originality (so that it may not be a copy of a Smith dictionary article or Wikipedia), 3) quality (language, grammar, legibility, structure, beauty (whether are pictures, diagrams etc added), 4) quantity (amount of new articles, number of characters etc). All these criteria would be equally pondered and measured.

What would be the award? As for glory; I think we should award the best article and the best editor with featuring them on our website as the "article of the month' and "editor of the month". As for material enticement, century points should be awarded in my opinion since those are the indicators of one's merits in NR.

When it comes to money, I think it can be also a very motivational thing, but then more than 15 $ should be offered. Maybe on a yearly basis? "Editor of the year", how does that sound? There could be 1st, 2nd and 3rd place awarded, for, say, with about 300-150 for the 1st place, 200-100 for the 2nd and 100-50 $ prize for the 3rd. Or do you think a monthy award is more motivational? In this case, 50 $ for the 1st place only and no prizes for lower places. But I think this might be too much to spend from the treasury (600 $ per year). What if we rewarded the 3 best contributors monthly, 15 $ equally for all 3 places. This is not too mzuch motivational, but since not only the best but the three best ones would get it, this would increase competitors' chances to win the money, and they would be more entusiastic. Because if we give 15 only to the first best, competitors might say to themselves that "Oh why I should torture myself when the prize is so small
and the chance to win it is so tiny." But awarding money to the 3 best ones increases the chance with 300 %.

But maybe money award should not be involved at all.

Vale et valete!

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Avete Omnes,



When I was consul for the first time back in, wow uh 1999 I remember I

had a survey that went out the citizens via email to ask them a series

of questions about what drew them to Nova Roma and what improvements

they would like to see. I even think I dug out a copy of the survey I

sent out as I was moving. Well, I want to ask this question again.

Nova Roma is taking definitive steps towards fixing a number of the

key issues once and for all and now I would like to move to find

positive ways to improve the community.



Whether you are a brand new citizen or an older citizen who has been

in NR through the long haul what ideas suggestions do you have? I am

looking for anything...not necessarily legal pronouncements but if

that helps so be it.



I will even start with an idea that I just floated to the Curule

Aedile. A monthly essay type of contest. Each month would have a

different theme.



March: Roman History topic

April: Cultus Deorum topic

May: Roman Personality topic

June: The Virtues - similar to what Valerianus did last year.



Etc etc you get the idea,



Entries would be a minimum of 300 words (essentially 1 page) with a

requirement of 2 sources cited.



Winner would have the essay published on the Wiki - thus improving the NR wiki

Winner would earn $15.00 - payable to them - another motivation

Winner would have the winning essay published on the ML for

discussion, constructive criticism and debate.



What other ideas does anyone have?



Respectfully,



Sulla

























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Ave,

It would be enough to pay for a 5th class tax.

It would be enough to go to a movie or out to eat.

It is something. :)

And writing a minimum of one page is not torturing anyone.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

M. Iulius Scaeva A. Tulliae Scholasticae S.P.D.
S.V.B.E.E.V.

I am doing as well as I can. Currently I'm still recovering from a recent surgery that appears to have gone quite well.


Yes, those early years of Nova Roma were fraught with many such problems that would be eventually resolved with the inclusion of talented and knowledgeable citizens such as Lentulus.


You are most welcome and be assured my words were genuine. You were one of a certain number of members here in NR that were always ready to give useful advice that I found most indispensable.

I have been continuing my Latin studies and currently working with the "Lingua Latina" series by Hans Orberg, "Latin an Intensive Course" by Moreland & Fleischer, which is the text used at Kings College in London, and of course I still have my trusty Wheelock's text which gave me my first real exposure to the tongue of our ancestors. I still find it an indispensable reference.

Your Latin lesson were always enjoyable to me as I eagerly awaited the informative annotation that accompanied my corrected work. It not only pointed out where I had gone wrong but gave me a better understanding of why. Your notations provided needed information that was not included in the text.

I'm sure Mento is simply finding himself frustrated with the complexity of the Latin language. You may remind him that your techniques and requirements are mere kisses compared to the magisters of antiquity who would actually flog their students for making mistakes. He should count himself lucky to have such a dedicated instructor.

Di te incolumem custodiant!

Ave,

You know i don't really want to discourage the creative process. If someone wishes to use 30,000 words to get their point across fine by me. I just think a minimum standard is needed to set some coherent standard that everyone should should exceed.

And, this is how I operate my classes that I teach in college and I have never after 7 years of teaching had a student submit a 10 page paper when a 1 or 2 page paper was sufficient.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Ave,


Take the $15 and buy an imitation grass crown or engrave "Nova Roma" on
some brass ring as the prize.

Vale optime!

D. Mento

Ave,

Do we really want to minimize the significance of the grass crown?

They were given for hugely significant accomplishments.

Vale,

Sulla



Sent from my iPhone

Salvete Omnes!



My reaction exactly, and expressed more gently than I would have done. The
only other thing you might want to consider is perhaps giving the winner the
choice of $15 or a $15 gift certificate or gift card with Amazon or Barnes &
Noble. Book money is always very welcome! I have another idea but I want
it to incubate for a while before bringing it forward.

Valete!

C. Maria Caeca



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Ave,

Well, since there hasn't been a grass crown awarded in 1722 years the
significance might have minimized itself. But, OK let's take off the
table. But what I'm suggesting is that it's time to think outside the
box guys. Nova Roma needs to move outside the world of Latin Scholars,
historians and anthropologists. How many people off the list I just
mentioned enjoyed the series "Rome" just because it was fun?

Let's make the sight fun AND easy as well as informative. There are
10,000 social sites out there already doing it showing us the way.

Vale optime!

D. Mento

Ave,

Excellent suggestion! I like really like this suggestion and amazon can be used within nova roma!

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Sulla,
TV News magazines...The most "bang for the buck."
Marcellus


On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:02:53 -0700
Robert <robert.woolwine@...

An amazon gift certificate could be used in the Nova Roma bookstore thereby raising funds for the state!

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

I know of websites that has an Amazon link on their website. When
someone clicks on the link and eventually purchases something, the
original website gets a kickback. A good way to monetize the Nova Roma
website. Getting eyes on that website is important. The more visitors
it gets, the more advertising revenue it can generate.

Salvete,
 In my more mundane life I help run Taldish Castle which is a pagan store.  We do have booth at most major pagan events in Wisconsin and Illinois.  We also have events in Michigan and Indiana as well.  I would be very happy to donate some space in our booth at these events to promote Nova Roma and the Religo Romana.  This would help promote the group in Lacus Magni and in the pagan community as well.  We also would reach a wider audience at Pagan Spirit Gathering and Circle Sanctuary where we also vend.  All we would need to do is create some fliers and information on Nova Roma.  Let me know if this would be something the leaders of Nova Roma would like me to pursue, for the upcoming season?  We could also add a link or area on the Taldish Castle website.
 
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Marcus Valerius Traianus
Proud Citizen of Nova Roma


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From: Mark B <mark.boudreau@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 8:09 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Question for everyone

 
In my opinion a logical place to start any publicity campaign for NR would be at the Classics/History departments of Universities. The best way would be a Roman Studies Group that would offer something concrete to the university community. At the very least posting NR flyers on campuses might yield some results.

Paulinus

Ave,

We have that but it needs major expansion and Marcus mentioned an amazon affiliate program that is being explored as well.

Vale,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

I am currently putting together a proposal regarding the Amazon store that I hope to present as soon as I have 5 minutes to spare.

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

Ecce! Terrific!

Ave,

We are this is precisely why I started the thread. I wanted input and ideas - not everything will be implemented and not all ideas are going to be good ones - but all ideas are worth hearing out.

We are getting good ideas that will be considered and I believe will be implemented.

The one suggestion I would like to give is that we do not want to diminish or disrespect the major achievements the ancients utilized. It would be quite like I being hailed as imperator because we have the website securely back in nova roma's hands. In other words it diminishes the achievements of the ancients who risked life and limb to be awarded such a distinction.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Lentulus Sullae cos. sal.

Tarquitius mentioned making the award a book token to be spent on NR's Amazon store (once we get it back restored). I think it's a great idea and better than just plain giving 15 $ to the winner.

What you say about the 15 dollars: I agree that it is something, but does it make difference in motivation? The question is how many people would participate if there is no money award; and how many would participate if there is an award of 15 $. Maybe my instincts are mistaken, but my suspicion is that it would not make a big difference. There were essay writing competitions in NR previously, and the usual number of competitors were 3-5. Sometimes even fewer. With the 15 dollars award I don't think this number will increase significantly. That's what I wanted to point out for consideration. And, as I've said, I don't oppose giving the money, only I say that those who would participate, would do it even without the money, so if we offer 15, with this money motivational award we don't hit the target group of those people which are motivated by money, or earning some money. And in case you did not even want to address this target group, the book award is
better as a symbolic prize than money.

And what do you think about an article writer competition? Would not be good to combine the two ideas into one? Or would it be better to have two separate competition, one for essays, and one for articles?

Vale et valete omnes!
Lentulus

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Ave,



It would be enough to pay for a 5th class tax.



It would be enough to go to a movie or out to eat.



It is something. :)



And writing a minimum of one page is not torturing anyone.



Vale,



Sulla



Sent from my iPhone

Of course, let's not minimize the ancients. But Monty Python's "Life of
Brian" showed how respect and deprecating humor can be had at the same
time for our ancient Roman model.

Salve!

I have been in contact with Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus and he is in full agreement of what I will propose here.

The key is to work in increments with each increment building on the one before. What I propose is the following:

1. We have links to an Amazon store that has not even been configured. This needs to be set up.

2. We need to ensure that all book and DVD links on the Wiki use our Amazon affiliate link. We also need to make sure that for any courses the students are encouraged to purchase their supplies from our Amazon store.

3. We should add a widget to the Wiki that features a "Book of the Week" which again links to the store. This is relatively easy to set up.

4. Once our Amazon Store is fully functional and all links are updated we should then look at breaking it out from the Wiki as a separate tab with a more attractive look and functionality. It should be promoted as a "go to" source of any books or DVDs related to Ancient Rome. I would need to fully understand how the Wiki functions as I am more familiar with Wordpress but this is something I would tackle when steps 1-3 are complete.

5. Setting up a true marketplace. The software exists that we can use to set up a fully functional marketplace to use to sell Nova Roma merchandise. We can even integrate our Amazon store within it. This will require testing and experimentation but we can build a robust infrastructure that can serve our needs for years.

6. Once the Marketplace is set up and functioning we should then reach out to kindered spirits who sell merchandise and services related to our goals. What we would offer them is an additional platform to sell their wares through, with Nova Roma taking a percentage. The percentage and who would qualify to sell through the marketplace would have to be determined. I would suggest that citizens get a better deal than non-citizens. We should also market the site on social media and to places like University Classics and History departments, reenactor groups and like-minded enthusiasts.

The costs involved in steps 1-3 are pretty much non-existant. The A Store code that Amazon provides is free for affiliate use.

A new and expanded Amazon Store can be quite inexpensive depending on how we want to proceed.

The marketplace software also can be quite inexpensive. I recommend that as much as possible Nova Roma utilize Open Source software for our infrastructure due to its robustness and low (often free) cost.

My question to our leaders is who has to sign off on this to get things going, how do we proceed, who should be involved and most importantly, who possesses things like our Amazon password in order for us to start making changes?

I respectfully volunteer my services to proceed with steps 1-3 or to help whomever wants to head this project.

Vale!

Paulinus

Lentulus M. Tarquitio s. p. d.

We had a very well functioning Amazon store for USA, Canada and UK, between 2007-2009, if memory serves. I was the admin of the UK Amazon store for a while; but the project was stopped some years ago because the senate lost control over our website, and necessary updates and registrations could not continue -- at least, as far as I know, this is why the project is suspended.

I am looking forward to see your proposals and the resuscitation of our Amazon stores! Thank you for your dedication for this cause!

Vale!

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I am currently putting together a proposal regarding the Amazon store that I hope to present as soon as I have 5 minutes to spare.



Paulinus


















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C. Tullius Valerianus Germanicus Augur omnibus in hoc foro S.P.D.

So, I've been exceptionally busy at work lately, and haven't had a
chance to respond to this thread, which is a topic that is very dear to me
- the restoration of vigor to daily life in Nova Roma and especially the
idea of living *Romanitas *(Roman-ness, for lack of a better translation).
I'll try to sketch a response here:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...

in NR through the long haul what ideas suggestions do you have? I am
looking for anything...not necessarily legal pronouncements but if
that helps so be it.

-- Here's something I once hoped to get going, but time and assistance
dried up - a semi-regular podcast or Youtube "broadcast" of NR "news" and
interest stories. For a while there was something like that (I think the
podcast was called "Vox Latina" or something - I remember former citizen
Hortensia Maior was involved, and I remember thinking it was too bad such
an interesting concept wasn't in better hands than that . . .) Anyway,
"news" could involves reports on local meetups, Senate session reports,
etc. It wouldn't even have to be an "official" product of Nova Roma, all we
would need is some interested citizens who are sufficiently tech-savvy and
with the necessary equipment.

-- Get more citizens involved in researching and contributing content to
the Wiki, as well as helping to "clean up" the Wiki. The Wiki has the
POTENTIAL to be the greatest tool Nova Roma has. Our site is in our hands.
Don't see what you want on the Wiki? Write it yourself! One thing that is
eternally frustrating about the Wiki is that citizens complain that they
can't find the content they would like to see on it, but the whole point of
the Wiki was that if the content you want doesn't exist, you can make it
happen. There is a lot of old content that is "junk" - poorly researched,
poorly written, sometimes outright plagiarized, sometimes just extended
quotes from public domain books . . . the rush to "fill" the Wiki at its
inception resulted in junk content. That needs to be fixed. I plan to
update the "Virtues" section in the near future with some of the results of
the research from the Roman Virtues Project, for example. P.S. I know that
the Wiki is a favorite whipping-boy of some of us who are longer-term
citizens (e.g. "{grumble grumble} I liked the old website from 1999, I hate
the Wiki, I can never find anything, {grumble grumble}") But this Wiki of
ours is one of our greatest public resources - learning to navigate it
would probably take less effort than the effort put into complaining about
it, and if what you're looking for isn't there, well, it's our
responsibility as citizens to get it on there!

--I may have more suggestions in the near future, but that was one I had
wanted to do last year and simply failed to get going.


Aedile. A monthly essay type of contest. Each month would have a
different theme.

March: Roman History topic
April: Cultus Deorum topic
May: Roman Personality topic
June: The Virtues - similar to what Valerianus did last year.

--I love the idea. I'm actually planning on returning to the Roman Virtues
Project myself when things quiet down at work . . .

Gaius Tullius Valerianus

Augur of Nova Roma
Lictor Curiatus of Nova Roma
Tribunus Plebis of Nova Roma
Praefectus of Arizona Australis


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Salvete Omnes!



It was my impression that the winning essays would become articles on the
WIKI. I do like having an "article of the day (week) feature, to draw
attention to it, and suggest that we feature the winning essays as such. Is
an essay posted on the WIKI any different than a WIKI article? Surely their
goals are the same, are they not? The only difference I can think of is
that WIKI articles can be edited by any reader whereas the essays should be
exempted from that. However, if comments are allowed on them in the WIKI,
(as I think should be the case) any additional material, corrections and
suggestions could be placed there. Then, if the author chose to do so, the
article could be edited by the author and reposted, though not in
competition.



Valete omnes!

C. Maria Caeca



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2. We need to ensure that all book and DVD links on the Wiki use our
Amazon affiliate link. We also need to make sure that for any courses
the students are encouraged to purchase their supplies from our Amazon
store. <<<<

I just want to reinforce what I've written in my previous message: we had 3 functioning Amazon stores for CAN, USA, UK, and we used it and got profit for a couple of years. All books and DVDs on our Wiki were (at least I recall so) linked to the NR Amazon store. I mention this so that we may avoid duplication of work, and let's use what is already in our hands -- when it's possible, and if.



going, how do we proceed, who should be involved and most importantly,
who possesses things like our Amazon password in order for us to start
making changes? <<<


The person appointed to head the previous Amazon project was M. Lucretius Agricola but he has been expelled from Nova Roma after a serious of internal political conflicts. I don't know if anyone has the passwords. I surely have for the UK store which I managed, but I think it's not enough, it's not the over admin password. Maybe the Consul knows more details.

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I actually produced 68 podcasts for my site the Rock and Roll Report and still have the equipment. I also currently host a music radio show.

A podcast is a great idea but very time intensive. If we could put together a committee that collects and collates material it can be done. I personally would put this in the "to do" pile until the amazon store and marketplace are functioning.

As for the wiki I personally don't use or maintain them. What I would suggest before a podcast even is a blog that could do much the same as the podcast covering news and events. If that works out well then we could add a podcast to the mix. I have extensive experience with Wordpress so creating a blog is not an issue if we decide to do one.

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

The accounts still exist this is true but we need to update them and as I say, properly configure the store.

What I can do if all agree is to conduct a "state of the store" report to see what is working and what is not and then we can proceed from there. For sure the store links I clicked did not work.

Paulinus

Sent from my iPhone

Lentulus Mariae Caecae suae s. p. d.

They were put on the Wiki, according to the consul's proposal, but not as articles which can be modified by anyone, but as essays, as you point out very precisely, because they are compositions intended to be a complete literature work and we shall preserve it in the format the authors wrote it.

The essay conpetition in itself is worthy idea, but I also would like to see some similar incentive to motive article wrtings. In the long run, I think if our website becomes full of well written and referenced articles it would attract more people to our website and make them more "addicted" to use our site for their studies than essays would. Which is of course not an argument against essay contest, just a thought for consideration, whether it should directly be an article writing contest, or perhaps separately both an essay and an article writing contest.

Vale optimé, amica!















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CORRECTION:

In my first sentence "They were put..." shall be corrected to read as:

"They would be put on the Wiki according to the consul's proposal... ETC"

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Lentulus Mariae Caecae suae s. p. d.



They were put on the Wiki, according to the consul's proposal, but not as articles which can be modified by anyone, but as essays, as you point out very precisely, because they are compositions intended to be a complete literature work and we shall preserve it in the format the authors wrote it.



The essay conpetition in itself is worthy idea, but I also would like to see some similar incentive to motivate article wrting. In the long run, I think if our website becomes full of well written and referenced articles it would attract more people to our website and make them more "addicted" to use our site for their studies than essays would. Which is of course not an argument against essay contest, just a thought for consideration, whether it should directly be an article writing contest, or perhaps separately both an essay and an article writing contest.



Vale optimé, amica!



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Salvete!



I think I can follow Mento's general thought line here, and I don't entirely
disagree with the concept, though I suspect I would define high quality and
even fun very differently. But I agree that we should try to make our
community as dynamic and interesting as we can, and that our site should
reflect that vibrancy. Lentulus made a suggestion during the Ludi Romani
last year that I liked very much, though we didn't have time to really set
it up. Unfortunately, I don't remember the details, but it involved a way
of having citizens actually game their gladiators against one another much
like WOW, if I'm right. Something like this could add another dimension to
the community, and those interested in such things might enjoy it. I
suspect all of us might enjoy hearing about the results.



I'm going to ramble a bit, here, so please bear with me. I was chastised a
few years ago for suggesting that activity not directly related to our
Government or to specifically academic activity be kept in the appropriate
Sodalitas and off the main forum. That might have been justifiable at the
time, because we were a much larger organization ..but now, I think it is
important to establish and promote a sense of community, so I think that one
way of doing this would be to encourage people to share some more
specialized material here. Granted, some discussions can get highly
technical, and probably should remain in its Sodalitas, but even in the
Militarium, for example, there are general discussions that might well
interest all citizens.



Valete!

C. Maria Caeca



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C. Decius Laterensis Cn. Lentulo omnibusque S.P.D.

If the previous person in charge of the Amazon project was expelled, it might be best if we started a new store from scratch rather than restoring the old one.  I don't know the situation that led to M. Lucretius Agricola's expulsion, but you don't want a potential security hole anywhere you can help it.  Especially with anything concerning money.

Also, I like the idea of the monthly essay contest.  A $15 prize would suit me fine, since I'd just apply it to my taxes.  Perhaps it might be better to do more than just essays, though.  Different people have different talents, after all.  Perhaps one month, it could be an essay.  Another month, it could be a short story, a drawing, a poem, or any other creative endeavor.  It'd be a good way for the Sodalitas Musarum to get it's name out, too.

Curate, ut valeatis!

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Good point, especially of we annoy locate the affiliate password. But if we can, the first step should be to change it immediately and ensure that it is properly protected.

Paulinus

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I think this is a wonderful idea.

Paulinus

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C. Maria Caeca C. Tullio Valeriano S. P. D.



Before I begin, I ask everybody's indulgence. My adaptive software isn't
playing nice with my spell checker, and I have no idea why or how to fix it
.so, if you see something strange, blame the technology!



Now, then. I would love to see the podcast return, and on a regular basis,
too. I don't have the technical savvy to help in its production or
presentation, but would be more than happy to help in other ways, including
record some of the material for broadcast.



I had also suggested our own on line radio station, featuring NR news, yes,
of course, but also bringing together appropriate ancient music and also
modern interpretations in other genres. I have no idea how difficult this
would be, especially in getting permissions to play copyrighted music, and
maybe this is too complicated for the near future, but I'd like us to keep
the idea in the back of our minds.



Valete!

C. Maria Caeca



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We must remember that some people will arrive here after reading "the Conquest of Gaul" and some after watching "Gladiator." We should make an attempt to appeal to all kinds of people who show an interest.

And yes, the wiki should reflect a vibrant, active community that not only is studious, respectful and serious but that is fun loving, artistic and has a sense of humour. After all, that is how the Romans were!

Paulinus

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Cn. Lentulus M. Tarquitio

Naturally. But what I intended to say it was not that the accounts exist, but that we once had all books on the Wiki linked to the NR Amazon store. For example, if you go here:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Reading_list_for_archaeology

you will find many books linked to Amazon. If you see the book: "Rome and Environs: An Archaeological Guide", then you say on its left a text: Buy from Amazon: Canada UK USA

These links lead us to the CAN, USA and UK Amazon stores of Nova Roma, which are now out of function, but when our Amazon store was fully functional, these links worked, and linked to the proper page where you could buy it so that NR got a percentage.

What I meant to say was that I think if Nova Roma contacts Amazon and reactivates its old store account, then all links will work again - that's how it should be at least. And hopefully we shall not re-write all the existing links, since they point to the correct NR Amazon store, except that the store is now out of function. It would be good to reactivate our Amazon account so that all existing links can remain functional.


I think everything could be done on NR's behalf without much bureaucracy: the senate has once already approved the Amazon affiliate project, all is needed to appoint someone, for example you, to be in charge of it. And to recover the access to NR's Amazon account.

That's all what I can say based on my previous involvement with the NR Amazon store. Probably the consul will decide how to proceed from here. I hope some other people have access to the NR Amazon account if we can't use M. Lucretius Agricola's access.



--- Mer 6/2/13, Mark Boudreau <mark.boudreau@...















 









The accounts still exist this is true but we need to update them and as I say, properly configure the store.



What I can do if all agree is to conduct a "state of the store" report to see what is working and what is not and then we can proceed from there. For sure the store links I clicked did not work.



Paulinus



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Music can be complicated but on our case as it is fairly eclectic a letter to the artist requesting permission usually does the trick as they will welcome the exposure.

I have the technical chops but again, it is a big project but if done right it would be yet another way to publicize Nova Roma. We could feature recordings of lectures, poetry, book readings, etc. the possibilities are endless.

Paulinus

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I volunteer to run with this project.

Paulinus

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Salve,

or a proper conversation. Or even some online shopping with some gear
and jewelry with a cool Nova Roma SPQR logo on it. Not to be found.
Terra incognita.

--- One has to be careful with corporate logos and such, legally. I believe
that Nova Roma previously gave permission for any citizen to make use of
the logo for anything "official," but you can't sell our logo to make a
profit (although Nova Roma could and should sell merchandise with its own
logo). I made some postcards with the logo for official use in my capacity
as a regional prefect (and if, as seems likely, I end up governing my
province, I shall continue to use them for official reasons), and I know
Nova Britannia and some other provinces used to have some
informational/recruiting brochures that used the logo.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can design your own cool
"Roman" stuff - I think Aeternia used to do this (probably still does?) -
but I'm pretty sure that any merchandise using the *official *SPQR logo or
flag can legally only be sold by Nova Roma, Inc. (although you could make
your own for private use, as long as you're not selling it for profit).

Vale
Gaius Tullius Valerianus

Augur of Nova Roma
Lictor Curiatus of Nova Roma
Tribunus Plebis of Nova Roma
Praefectus of Arizona Australis


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C. Maria Caeca M. Tarquitio Paulino S. P. D.



I am currently working on a review for a book I just finished about ancient
Rome, which I will post to the Nova Roma book club list. If we had the
Amazon affiliate set up for use, what would I need to do to ensure that
specific book was available using that um ..venue? Would I need to do
anything, or would one be able to search, say, the Kindle store from
something that would make the purchase part of our affiliation? I hope this
makes some sort of sense .I know what I mean, LOL!



Vale bene!

C. Maria Caeca



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Salvete!



I just had an idea which might be worth putting on the back burner until
appropriate. If we do resurrect the podcasts, some of us have at least
Facebook connections with authors who write books (usually fiction) in our
field of interest, and I'd be willing to bet we could arrange, fairly
easily, and record things like Skype interviews with some of those authors,
especially if they will be coming out with new books. It would be a sin/win
situation, the author gets exposure to an already very friendly market
share, we get an interview that is likely to make our podcasts (and
potentially our community) more attractive to a wide range of interested
people.



Valete!

C. Maria Caeca



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Fantastic idea. This is the kind of thing that will draw in a lot of interest. And getting the podcast on iTunes is not difficult.

Paulinus

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This is very easy. Merely posting a link within the book title will suffice. I would produce an Amazon Best Practices for the community so they can take advantage of the store for things like this.

Paulinus

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Salve Lentule, et Salvete omnes!



I have always found Amazon's customer service to be most helpful, and I am
pretty sure they could help us with any access issues, if someone called
them and explained our situation, namely, that the person who used to have
access is no longer a part of the organization, and unavailable to provide
us with the necessary information. After all, this would benefit Amazon as
well as us, so I think we would find them willing to work with us on this.



Valete Bene!

C. Maria Caeca



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Indeed they would. I have done something similar with PayPal for a nonprofit when a volunteer held our account for ransom.

Paulinus

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Laterensis Paulino omnibusque sal.

I have no real experience with podcasts.  What are they, and would these be available outside iTunes as well?  All my mobile devices are android based, and I'd rather avoid any dealings with Apple if I can at all help it.

Curate, ut valeatis!



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Excellent point, Paulinus. But until we can have a conversation without
having to deal with these cumbersome Yahoo Groups emails we're not going
to keep the "Gladiator" visitor or the "Conquest of Gaul" visitor.

A podcast is simply a downloadable audio program playable on any device that can support the MP3 format. So it would be playable on any MP3 player, laptop or tablet.

As for apple, regardless of your feelings for the company iTunes is the number one method of distributing podcasts and we would definitely want to be available there as well as in Google Play and our own site. iTunes would give us important exposure.

Paulinus

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Nova Roma needs to "brand" itself. Nova Roma needs to design it's own
logo and official gear and sell it to support the state. Hosting sites
like GoDaddy can provide an easily configurable wiki and social site for
surprisingly little amount of money. All I know is that I want a Nova
Roma hat, shirt and ring and I can't buy it. I want to talk to some of
you like minded people about the news, politics and sports and I have no
place to do it. The only time I go to the Nova Roma website is when
it's time to vote so I can find out who I'm voting for.

Salvete omnes,

Just wanted to make sure I added my agreement with Sulla on this matter -
I, for one, do NOT want to cheapen some of our sacred symbols of
accomplishment - e.g., the grass crown, or the title of imperator - by
handing them out as awards for good writing. When someone singlehandedly
saves our Republic from total destruction, maybe then . . . but no one in
NR has earned a grass crown. But the traditional Greco-Roman prize for
artistic achievement was a laurel wreath, was it not? That might work . . .

Valete,
~ Valerianus

Salve Pauline et Salvete omnes!



Excellent! Once we get the Amazon stores reinstated, I will go and see if
there is a fiction book list to which one can add book information with the
appropriate buttons or links. Gratias!



Vale et valete!

CMC



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Salve et salvete omnes!

I know the subject of replacing the various email lists with a modern forum has come up before, but has been met with a lukewarm response.  I'm personally in favor of the idea.  I personally have experience administering a forum using the Simple Machines Forum software, and it's very easy to use for both the average user and the moderator/administrator.  Another advantage to a forum is that non-members can browse the posts and get a feel for us as a community before joining.  Also, forum posts get cataloged by Google, so searches on Roman topics could very easily funnel traffic our way.

Curate, ut valeatis!

C. Decius Laterensis



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Salve et salvete omnes!

I know the subject of replacing the various email lists with a modern forum has come up before, but has been met with a lukewarm response.  I'm personally in favor of the idea.  I personally have experience administering a forum using the Simple Machines Forum software, and it's very easy to use for both the average user and the moderator/administrator.  Another advantage to a forum is that non-members can browse the posts and get a feel for us as a community before joining.  Also, forum posts get cataloged by Google, so searches on Roman topics could very easily funnel traffic our way.

Curate, ut valeatis!

C. Decius Laterensis



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Salve Laterensis,

I would not want to see the currente-mail Forum *replaced* by a
forum-style site, but maybe supplemented by one, sure. Replacing e-mail
lists with fora has been tried on occasion (I know it was attempted in Nova
Britannia) and it was a spectacular failure. E-mail just seems better for
the long term. But supplemental fora might be a good idea. For example,
maybe for sodalitates and such.

Vale,
~ Valerianus

Laterensis Paulino omnibusque sal.

I have no objections to using iTunes as a distribution method since a lot of people use apple devices.  I've used apple products in the past, and while the device was decent (if overpriced) the iTunes software itself was a bloody nuisance at best.  I just wanted to make sure there would be more than one distribution method available.

Curate, ut valeatis!



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Salvete,
 
I would have to say that I like this idea.  A forum would add another level of enhancment to Nova Roma.  A Q&A area could be set up to tell people about us and encourage those with an interest in Rome to priticipate and eventually become citizens.

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Marcus Valerius Traianus
Proud Citizen of Nova Roma


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Salve et salvete omnes!

I know the subject of replacing the various email lists with a modern forum has come up before, but has been met with a lukewarm response.  I'm personally in favor of the idea.  I personally have experience administering a forum using the Simple Machines Forum software, and it's very easy to use for both the average user and the moderator/administrator.  Another advantage to a forum is that non-members can browse the posts and get a feel for us as a community before joining.  Also, forum posts get cataloged by Google, so searches on Roman topics could very easily funnel traffic our way.

Curate, ut valeatis!

C. Decius Laterensis

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Laterensis Valeriano omnibusque S.P.D.

Well, perhaps not an outright replacement, but it couldn't hurt to set a forum up alongside the existing lists and let natural selection take it's course.  Mailing lists are great for things like the announcement group where we need to reach everyone even if they don't login to the forum itself.  For general discussion, though, a forum is much less cumbersome.

Cura, ut valeatis!



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We should definitely use all and every means of distribution as possible. The idea is to spread the word about Nova Roma and to create a brand as mentioned elsewhere.

Paulinus

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Lentulus Tarquitio optimo sal.

I have just entered into the NR UK Amazon store account that I had to manage in the past for a while. The access works but it informs me that the NR Amazon account has been closed. It shows however statistics about sales and earnings by NR in the UK store.

Further info and discussion with me about this UK Amazon account is requested to conduct via private mail on my address: cn_corn_lent@...



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I volunteer to run with this project.



Paulinus



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M. Iulius Scaeva C. Mariae Caecae S.P.D.

This is exactly what I was getting at in my earlier post when I suggested contests that would go beyond just essays but include all of the various skills and artisan abilities of our varied membership.

As you said; "I think it is important to establish and promote a sense of community, so I think that one way of doing this would be to encourage people to share some more specialized material here."

I couldn't agree more. Shunting citizens off into smaller groups, although at certain times preferable, is not always the best way to create unity.

Vale optime!

Salvete omnes!

While we're on the subject of contests - does Nova Roma have an anthem? If not, how about a contest to write / compose / adapt something appropriate?

Valete!

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C. Decius Laterensis Cn. Lentulo omnibusque S.P.D.



If the previous person in charge of the Amazon project was expelled, it might be best if we started a new store from scratch rather than restoring the old one. I don't know the situation that led to M. Lucretius Agricola's expulsion, but you don't want a potential security hole anywhere you can help it. Especially with anything concerning money.



Also, I like the idea of the monthly essay contest. A $15 prize would suit me fine, since I'd just apply it to my taxes. Perhaps it might be better to do more than just essays, though. Different people have different talents, after all. Perhaps one month, it could be an essay. Another month, it could be a short story, a drawing, a poem, or any other creative endeavor. It'd be a good way for the Sodalitas Musarum to get it's name out, too.



Curate, ut valeatis!



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Well I guess this makes moot the question of whether we should start a new account or not!

Paulinus

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M. Iulius Scaeva C. Tullio Valeriano S.P.D.

This is an entirely salient point and can not be overly exacerbated upon. We must always be careful to preserve our cherished symbols.

I agree with the sentiment wholeheartedly.

Vale optime!

Lentulus C. Decio s. p. d.

non-members can browse the posts and get a feel for us as a community
before joining. <<<

It is true about our Yahoo group as well, just some time ago our moderators decided to make it a closed group, which means only existing list members can browse the posts and read the archives. However, it's only a question of hitting a button by a moderator to open the group and allow non-members to read posts. I suspect this would meet objection from the part of some citizens who does not want that our pretty hmm... which is the good word... abhorring?... former internal conflicts, sparkled by quite inflammatory language, become public.

on Roman topics could very easily funnel traffic our way. <<<

Yahoo posts get catalogued as well, but only if the list archive is public. Ours isn't.



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Scaeva omnibus sal.

Any medium that would bring Nova Romans together in a more real time environment would certainly go a long way in fostering greater unity as well as attracting new citizens looking for a more participative venue.

Optime valete!

Salvete!



The Forum Hospitum is the list for those who are interested, but not yet
citizens. This list is for citizens to conduct the business of the
community, but there is some overlap, and those topics not directly related
to our internal business procedures or debates are more than welcome on the
FH.



Valete bene!

C. Maria Caeca

Scriba Praetoris



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Agreed! :)

I know Marcus Cassius used to have some flyers?

Vale,

Sulla

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group where we need to reach everyone even if they don't login to the
forum itself.  For general discussion, though, a forum is much less
cumbersome. <<<


For some reasons, hardcore Nova Romans always preferred mailing list to forum. This is because most of the "e-mail" orators of Nova Roma love to get their speeches back into their mailbox for due archivation, and equally like to get a copy of their opponents' or fellow speakers' speeches. They also prefer to get everything from all fora in one place: into their mailbox. Previously, forums usually did not allow the option to continue discussions from mailbox and get everything into your mailbox. Also, since we often hold political debates here, a forum would have the disadvantage that the poster can edit his post after posting, and thus people could change their posts during political debates, thus denying they said this or that, when in fact they had said. Deletion of posts is also something we should never allow in our political internal discussion group, but it can easily and frequently happen in a forum.

Forum is also more prone to become a place for graffitis: by this term I mean a flood of one sentence comments, inscriptions, gags and posters would even more likely to abandon the Roman style letter formulas. Our political Main List is intentionally a mailing list that makes chit-chat and unresponsible graffitis hard to fit and uneasy to post. Our main political discussion group was intended to be a dignified, sollemn place where people issue written speeches that emulate the Roman public speakers, creating the athmosphere you are amongst Romans. Nova Romans.

Do I say there is no place for a forum in Nova Roma? No, I don't say that. I think your suggestion to create an alternative discussion group in form of a forum is great, and I support it. But when it comes to our internal political discussions, I would prefer mailing list, or a forum which functions exactly like a mailing list, posts can not be re-edited, and I get all posts, including mine, to my mailbox.

I think for example the mailing list for new citizens and non-citizens that is now called "Forum Hospitum" would be an excellent idea to be changed to a forum.















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Ave,

What I would ideally like to see is one aedile focus specifically just on the macellum. This would naturally include the amazon store. They would also be in charge of promoting the store on the website and email list.

Weekly updates of new items
Book reviews
Items that might be on sale
Highlight black Friday and cyber Monday things.

That could be a serious job for an aedile!

Vale,

Sulla

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Ave,

There are a couple of months of writers choice and a month devoted to the arts and technology. That could include drawings like what senator audens submitted or works of art.

Vale,

Sulla

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Ave,

Contact me privately. We can discuss this.

Vale,

Sulla

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Lentulus Tarquitio s. p.

I'm not sure if it closes the question. Amazon should first be asked if they can REACTIVATE our old account, before we create a new. Since it's exists, and I can even access to UK one, so it's not deleted, but closed. It might be re-opened as the word "closed" suggest.

I think such technical details should be discussed in private with the consul or with the appropriate senate committee and Amazon should be contacted ASAP.

Vale!

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Well I guess this makes moot the question of whether we should start a new account or not!



Paulinus



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Yes that would be a good idea. Luckily there are quite a few tools that help automate the process!

Paulinus

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Ave,

Well I think this might be a bit more technical than I intended. If the quality of the work is good enough to be an article then it could be put in as one and could thusly be edited.

But otherwise it would also be highlighted as its own essay in it's appropriate section as well.

Think of it like a venn diagram.

Vale,

Sulla

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