Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. May 20-31, 2013

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90407 From: Scipio Second Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: IN PRO SE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90408 From: publius_porcius_licinus Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Getting closer to a motto.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90409 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Change in Schedule
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90410 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90411 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90412 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90413 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90414 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90415 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90416 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Issue
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90417 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Yahoo lists ...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90418 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90419 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: IN PRO SE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90420 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Getting closer to a motto.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90421 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90422 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: CALL TO ORDER - SUMMONING THE COMITIA CENTURIATA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90423 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] CALL TO ORDER – SUMMONING THE COMITIA CENTURIATA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90424 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Quaestoribus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90425 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90426 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90427 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90428 From: publius_porcius_licinus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90429 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90430 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90431 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90432 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90433 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90434 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90435 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90436 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90437 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90438 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90439 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Latin Pronunciation, anyone?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90440 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90441 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90442 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90443 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: [Nova_roma_] Latin Pronunciation, anyone?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90444 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90445 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90446 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Verbatum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90447 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: Verbatum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90448 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: FINAL DRAFT - Lex Cornelia de Quaestoribus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90449 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: PANDA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90450 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Final Draft - Lex Cornelia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90451 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: PANDA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90452 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: PANDA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90453 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90454 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: FINAL FINAL Draft
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90455 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90456 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90457 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90458 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] FINAL DRAFT - Lex Cornelia de Quaestoribus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90459 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] FINAL FINAL Draft
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90460 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: PANDA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90461 From: Marcus Prometheus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: Digest Number 6372
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90462 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: Digest Number 6372
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90463 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: iustitia nobis liberanda est
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90464 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: FILE: Three Choices at Stance
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90465 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: FILE: Four Choices at Stance
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90466 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: FILE: Four Choices at Stance
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90467 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: FILE: Three Choices at Stance
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90468 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90469 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90470 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90471 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90472 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90473 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90474 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90475 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Ave Marte - Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90476 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90477 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90478 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90479 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90480 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90481 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Vote and voter codes
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90482 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90483 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90484 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90485 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90486 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90487 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum - Discussion
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90488 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum - Discussion
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90489 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Voting is open
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90490 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Vote ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90491 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90492 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: Vote ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90493 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Welcome to new members
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90494 From: Anders Ehrnborn Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90495 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: QUA - Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Welcome to new members
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90496 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: Voting in the Comitia Centuriata
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90497 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90498 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90499 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90500 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90501 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90502 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90503 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90504 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: A new poem...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90505 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-05-30
Subject: The Eagle has landed!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90506 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-30
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] The Eagle has landed!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90507 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-05-30
Subject: Gadget called Greek and Roman Mythology
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90508 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: VOTING PERIOD IS CLOSED
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90509 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Re: [BackAlley] The Eagle has landed!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90510 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: The Eagle has landed!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90511 From: HappyCheonsa Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: The Eagle has landed!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90512 From: HappyCheonsa Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90513 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90514 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90515 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: 2013 Annual Report
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90516 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Report for Senate session closed on 18 May 2013
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90517 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Report for Senate session closed on 28 Feb 2013
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90518 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90407 From: Scipio Second Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: IN PRO SE
Ave Marcius Quadra,
 
Well, best of luck.   Not enough attorneys.  Wow!  Most stateside would argue the contrary.   I am an attorney of forty years.   I have taught at the university/college level for over thirty years, both undergraduate and graduate.   If I may offer advice, please let me know.
 
By the way, my brother-in-law and sister did a tour of duty with USAF in Guam.
 
Best of luck.
 
Vale,
 
Petrus Augustinus    


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From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] IN PRO SE

 

Ave Petrus Augustinus,

On Guam the AG let out a guy who received a credit card from a caught rapist. He then racks up over $800 on the credit card. Still no arrests, except documentation. That $800 spender is now in jail for home invasion, nearly killing the female occupant.

AG's excuse: NOT ENOUGH ATTORNEYS. Please review this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_lawyer.
 
Guam is in a wild frontier, and in need of public defenders.

Regarding costs, hey I'm a Christian - hail Mars! I can move mountains (and raise $50 million). BTW, this is my 10-20 year project.

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

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From: Scipio Second <mailto:scipiosecond%40yahoo.com To: "mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Seven words to 2 or 3 Latin words


 
Ave Marcius Quadra,
 
Fascinating.    Do you have any idea of how difficult it would be to start a law school or the costs involved, not to mention obtaining ABA sanction?    Presumably the administration in Guam has no interest, thus it would need to be a private venture.   As an attorney with some 35 years experience teaching undergrad and grad student - not law school - I think such a venture would be nigh to impossible.
 
Vale,
 
Petrus Augustinus 
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From: Robin Marquardt <mailto:remarq777%40yahoo.com To: "mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:04 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Seven words to 2 or 3 Latin words
 
Because justice seemed tied to monetary power.

How would you reduce the above sentence to 2 to 3 Latin words?

The back story: I want to start a law school on Guam. The motto is based on the fact that Guamanians HAVE to go off island to earn their ABA accredited law degree. My proposed law school is based on the US' "Country Lawyer" -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_lawyer.

Therefore, the access to practice law on Guam is for the privileged. Hence the motto BECAUSE JUSTICE SEEMED TIED TO MONETARY POWER.

But that motto is too long.

Vale,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90408 From: publius_porcius_licinus Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Getting closer to a motto.
P Porcius Licinus Ti Quadrae SPD

I am hardly a competent latinist. But may I humbly suggest something along the lines of Iustitia Emancipatus a Pecuniam? (Justice Emancipated From Money)

Vale optime

P Porcius Licinus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90409 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Change in Schedule
Avete Omnes,

I have been notified by a Pontiff that I need to adjust the schedule for
the Comitia.

This is the Original Schedule:

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 15-May-2013 : Call to order. Debate period
commences. � Contio Begins

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 21-May-2013 : Debate period ends. � Contio Ends

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 22-May-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 28-May-2013 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 29-May-2013 : Call to close issued before this time.


The new schedule is now:


09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 15-May-2013 : Call to order. Debate period
commences. � Contio Begins

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 24-May-2013 : Debate period ends. � Contio Ends

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 25-May-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 30-May-2013 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 31-May-2013 : Call to close issued before this time.


Thank you for your time and participation.


Respectfully,


Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90410 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Issue
Avete Omnes,

Why in the hell is a non-member of the CP allowed to post in the CP? I
thought the rule was that only members of the CP are allowed to post in the
CP.

I have been responding to posts made in the CP list here on the ML. Yet
now a post from Scholastica, disclosing private information about a student
again, in her traditionally unprofessional why, gets posted in the CP list.

My response to the CP list asking politely, if the rule has changed has NOT
shown up yet....and yeah I am rather irritated at the perceived double
standard.

And, Scholastica, you need to stop disclosing the results or lack of
results from students. You do realize if you taught in a real college you
would be in violation of a FEDERAL LAW known as FERPA (Family Educational
Rights and Protection Act).

Vale,

Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90411 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90412 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Ave,

I have done what I have always done, when there is a CP post...I respond
here....on the ML because I was told there was a rule that only CP members
may post on the CP list. Then, lo and behold my shock to see your
post...then I responded waiting about 20 min....for the post to appear, it
did not...and got justifiably angry at the perceived double standard.

One the message from the CP list it gave no indication that you sent to to
the Moderator.

I am violating the privacy of the individual? Which individual would that
be, oh teacher who supposedly seems to know the terms of FERPA? I, unlike
you, actually know that private information should remain PRIVATE and
should not even be sent to OWNERS, as it still violates FERPA never
mind the fact that you actually named the individual and it is now on the
CP list. Every time you post the confidential information of any student
of yours (and if I am ever contacted about citizens taking your classes I
highly recommend to go and find another alternative than you, I might add),
you disgrace your profession and mine, and its a damn disgrace that we
share even that in common.

Vale,

Sulla


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM, A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90413 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Caninus Sullae SPD


I am a bit confused - not surprising, I suppose.


Currently, the description of the CP Yahoo group reads:


"The Collegium Pontificum of Nova Roma. Membership is restricted to the
members of the Collegium Pontificum, Senators and the Consules.
Subscription requests aside from these will be rejected. The message
archive is open to the public."


Thus, a currently sitting Consul, who is also a Senator, should be
permitted to join. Sulla, you should indeed be a member as should
Scholastica. Unless, of course, the group description is incorrect, as
appears to be the case based on what Fabius posted half an hour ago.
Perhaps this is yet another sign of the administrative challenges the CP
currently faces. Changing a group description is a very simple task that
requires less than five minutes to complete. Simply stating:


"The Collegium Pontificum of Nova Roma. Membership is restricted;
however, the archive is open to the public."


should be an easy change to make.


And looking at the group description, along with the fact that both you
and I are able to follow the discussions, makes it obvious that the
message archive is completely open to the public, while the Main List is
not. This fact invalidates Scholastica's charge that you have made
student information public. Her original post on 14 May 2013 was public
when it hit the list. The fact that she chose to write to the group
moderators (collegium_pontificum_nr-owner@yahoogroups.com) rather than
to the PM or other members directly demonstrates either an intention to
make the student information widely known or carelessness.


Vale bene!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!





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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Issue
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... Date: Mon, May 20, 2013 5:03 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Ave,

I have done what I have always done, when there is a CP post...I
respond
here....on the ML because I was told there was a rule that only CP
members
may post on the CP list. Then, lo and behold my shock to see your
post...then I responded waiting about 20 min....for the post to appear,
it
did not...and got justifiably angry at the perceived double standard.

One the message from the CP list it gave no indication that you sent to
to
the Moderator.

I am violating the privacy of the individual? Which individual would
that
be, oh teacher who supposedly seems to know the terms of FERPA? I,
unlike
you, actually know that private information should remain PRIVATE and
should not even be sent to OWNERS, as it still violates FERPA never
mind the fact that you actually named the individual and it is now on
the
CP list. Every time you post the confidential information of any
student
of yours (and if I am ever contacted about citizens taking your classes
I
highly recommend to go and find another alternative than you, I might
add),
you disgrace your profession and mine, and its a damn disgrace that we
share even that in common.

Vale,

Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90414 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-20
Subject: Re: Issue
Ave!

The Senate is able to observe. But the rule as I understand it is ONLY the
members of the College are permitted to speak. This was how it was
explained to me when the members of the Senate were authorized to join the
list and observe.

This is why whenever there is a post that I feel the need to respond to (ie
the debate going on for the past couple of weeks as an example), I would
see a post from say Pontiff Fabius and would want to respond. I would
state on the ML that I am responding to a CP post. Then go into detail in
regards to the points I wish to make.

This has, I believe, always has been the case since the re-establishment of
the list. This is why I was at first taken aback by seeing Scholastica's
post posted on the CP list (never-mind the content of that post - which
sent me to levels of anger), but then when I posted a response to it and my
own post was not on the CP list for 20 minutes - so I immediately went to
the conclusion of a double standard - though Metellus did square most of
that away.

The only question that remains unanswered, because there seems to be a
conflict between Fabius's response vs Metellus's response is what exactly
is the procedure for those of us who observe the CP list and wish to
respond? I would like that to be cleared up.

Just to clear up, I am on the list as an observer the issue I had was
non-CP members (ie. Scholastica) actually being able to post on the CP
list. Your quoting the discription reaffirms Metellus's point of view,
which is Fine with me.

I hope this clears up any confusion, Caninus?

Respectfully,


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90415 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Issue
Ave!


With all due respect to you and the College, the explanation you were
given about the CP list seems a bit like nonsense to me, Consul. George
Bush and Lindsay Lohan can also observe the CP list. They won't have
messages sent directly to their mailboxes but they can follow the
discussions on the web even though they are not citizens. If you are in
fact a member of the list then I would assume you are moderated. I do
not believe this is what is implied in the group description, as you and
the other senators, in a practical sense, have little advantage over the
rest of us who view the group. At best, this looks like one of those
many cases in NR history where someone provided an interpretation of a
policy to suit a political goal and the interpretation stuck.


Optime vale!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Issue
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... Date: Mon, May 20, 2013 6:55 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Ave!

The Senate is able to observe. But the rule as I understand it is ONLY
the
members of the College are permitted to speak. This was how it was
explained to me when the members of the Senate were authorized to join
the
list and observe.

This is why whenever there is a post that I feel the need to respond to
(ie
the debate going on for the past couple of weeks as an example), I
would
see a post from say Pontiff Fabius and would want to respond. I would
state on the ML that I am responding to a CP post. Then go into detail
in
regards to the points I wish to make.

This has, I believe, always has been the case since the
re-establishment of
the list. This is why I was at first taken aback by seeing
Scholastica's
post posted on the CP list (never-mind the content of that post - which
sent me to levels of anger), but then when I posted a response to it
and my
own post was not on the CP list for 20 minutes - so I immediately went
to
the conclusion of a double standard - though Metellus did square most
of
that away.

The only question that remains unanswered, because there seems to be a
conflict between Fabius's response vs Metellus's response is what
exactly
is the procedure for those of us who observe the CP list and wish to
respond? I would like that to be cleared up.

Just to clear up, I am on the list as an observer the issue I had was
non-CP members (ie. Scholastica) actually being able to post on the CP
list. Your quoting the discription reaffirms Metellus's point of view,
which is Fine with me.

I hope this clears up any confusion, Caninus?

Respectfully,


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 7:43 PM, M. Pompeius Caninus
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90416 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Issue
Ave,

I understand, and this is why I will have to respectfully insist on the CP
to address this issue, as well, as the previous issue. I want to make sure
there is no "arbitrary" discretion but an agreed established and consistent
guideline for all of us to follow. Consistency is the watchword of the
day. Brought to you by the Letter S for Sulla. :)

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90417 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Yahoo lists ...
Omnibus in foro S. P. D.

Although I've never run a list like this, I think I know how they were set
up, and how they work, at least more or less, and this might shed some light
on the situation of the CP list.

When setting up a Yahoo group, posting privileges can be given in 3 ways.
First, there is the announcement list. Only the owner or moderators can
post on such a list, though anyone may join. The most usual is an open
list, where all members are granted posting privileges. Sometimes these
list are partially or fully moderated, and the posts of moderated members
must be approved by a moderator before it is posted. The 3rd way is to
choose the specific members who have posting privileges. Others may join
the list, and can read the posts, but in order to post, the owner or
moderators must add their names to the approved list of people with posting
privileges.

I know that our trial lists are run this way, for example, and it's always
been my understanding that the CP and (I think) the CA (Collegium augurum)
list have been run this way since 2011 or late 2010. So, yes, Senators and
other officials may be members of the list, as may any citizen, but only the
specific members who have approved can post directly. In the CP list, I
believe these approved members are limited to the Pontiffs, the Vestals, and
(maybe) the Augurs.

At one time, both lists were entirely closed, and no one could join them
*except* members of the CP. I'm not sure about list archives, but I think
they were probably hidden. Then, the Senate was given the right to be
observers on the CP and augurs lists, though they were not given posting
privileges. In 2010 (I think) The CP list archives were made available to
any citizen, though membership on the lists was still not available. One of
the first things Sabinus did when he became the CP was to open membership to
any Nova Roman citizen, but restrict posting privileges to the members of
the CP.

I hope this makes things a little more clear.

Valete Bene!
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90418 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam
T.M.Quadra P.Lucinus Salve!

That is really close. I'll have to work with this. 

"Justice Emancipated From Money" doesn't have a root cause, i.e. BECAUSE justice was tied to money, THAT'S WHY I started this affordable law school on island - is my literal thought.

"Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam" is very close.

 
Please let me know of any progress; I need to get this perfect.
Grati e Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: publius_porcius_licinus <eljefe3126@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:26 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Getting closer to a motto.



 
P Porcius Licinus Ti Quadrae SPD

I am hardly a competent latinist. But may I humbly suggest something along the lines of Iustitia Emancipatus a Pecuniam? (Justice Emancipated From Money)

Vale optime

P Porcius Licinus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90419 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: IN PRO SE
Gratias tibi Petrius. I hope your sis & brother-in-law enjoyed their stay on Guam.

TMQ


________________________________
From: Scipio Second <scipiosecond@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IN PRO SE



 
Ave Marcius Quadra,
 
Well, best of luck.   Not enough attorneys.  Wow!  Most stateside would argue the contrary.   I am an attorney of forty years.   I have taught at the university/college level for over thirty years, both undergraduate and graduate.   If I may offer advice, please let me know.
 
By the way, my brother-in-law and sister did a tour of duty with USAF in Guam.
 
Best of luck.
 
Vale,
 
Petrus Augustinus    


________________________________
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] IN PRO SE

 

Ave Petrus Augustinus,

On Guam the AG let out a guy who received a credit card from a caught rapist. He then racks up over $800 on the credit card. Still no arrests, except documentation. That $800 spender is now in jail for home invasion, nearly killing the female occupant.

AG's excuse: NOT ENOUGH ATTORNEYS. Please review this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_lawyer.
 
Guam is in a wild frontier, and in need of public defenders.

Regarding costs, hey I'm a Christian - hail Mars! I can move mountains (and raise $50 million). BTW, this is my 10-20 year project.

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: Scipio Second <mailto:scipiosecond%40yahoo.com To: "mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Seven words to 2 or 3 Latin words

 
Ave Marcius Quadra,
 
Fascinating.    Do you have any idea of how difficult it would be to start a law school or the costs involved, not to mention obtaining ABA sanction?    Presumably the administration in Guam has no interest, thus it would need to be a private venture.   As an attorney with some 35 years experience teaching undergrad and grad student - not law school - I think such a venture would be nigh to impossible.
 
Vale,
 
Petrus Augustinus 
________________________________
From: Robin Marquardt <mailto:remarq777%40yahoo.com To: "mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:04 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Seven words to 2 or 3 Latin words
 
Because justice seemed tied to monetary power.

How would you reduce the above sentence to 2 to 3 Latin words?

The back story: I want to start a law school on Guam. The motto is based on the fact that Guamanians HAVE to go off island to earn their ABA accredited law degree. My proposed law school is based on the US' "Country Lawyer" -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_lawyer.

Therefore, the access to practice law on Guam is for the privileged. Hence the motto BECAUSE JUSTICE SEEMED TIED TO MONETARY POWER.

But that motto is too long.

Vale,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90420 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Getting closer to a motto.
T.M.Quadra C.Petronius salutem,

 Not for tattoo. I need it for a law school motto.

Grati,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: Jean-François Arnoud <jfarnoud94@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Getting closer to a motto.



 
C. Petronius Ti. Quadrae salutem,
 
Why do you need 2 or 3 Latin words? Is it for a tattoo?
 
Vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. XIII Kalendas Iunias MMDCCLXVI  
________________________________
De : Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... À : "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Lundi 20 mai 2013 12h08
Objet : [Nova-Roma] Getting closer to a motto.

T.M.Quadra C.Petronius salutem,

What I'm trying to say in the motto is:
I STARTED THIS LAW SCHOOL BECAUSE POOR PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL.

1) Hence: BECAUSE JUSTICE SEEMED TIED TO MONETARY POWER

2) I'm thinking: MONEY WILL NO LONGER INFLUENCE JUSTICE

Take 1 & 2, and condense that idea to 2 to 4 Latin words.

Vale,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: Jean-François Arnoud <mailto:jfarnoud94%40yahoo.fr To: "mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Seven words to 2 or 3 Latin words
 
C. Petronius Ti. Quadrae salutem,
 
That motto is too long because too subtle: monetary power instead of riches or money, to seem instead of to be...
A short motto go only to the main, no subtilities.
 
So you may have shorter:
Ius nummis cedit. (justice yields to money)
Nummati iuris doctiores. (riches are more expert in laws)
 
Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. XIII Kalendas Iunias MMDCCLXVI 
________________________________
De : Robin Marquardt <mailto:remarq777%40yahoo.com À : "mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Dimanche 19 mai 2013 8h04
Objet : [Nova-Roma] Seven words to 2 or 3 Latin words

Because justice seemed tied to monetary power.

How would you reduce the above sentence to 2 to 3 Latin words?

The back story: I want to start a law school on Guam. The motto is based on the fact that Guamanians HAVE to go off island to earn their ABA accredited law degree. My proposed law school is based on the US' "Country Lawyer" -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_lawyer.

Therefore, the access to practice law on Guam is for the privileged. Hence the motto BECAUSE JUSTICE SEEMED TIED TO MONETARY POWER.

But that motto is too long.

Vale,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90421 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam
Salve!

How about IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA - Justice to be emancipated from money, hinting at the previous situation and promising to correct it. (Better check the Latin, though.)

Vale!

C Claudius Quadratus

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: remarq777@...
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 04:19:12 -0700
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam


























T.M.Quadra P.Lucinus Salve!



That is really close. I'll have to work with this.



"Justice Emancipated From Money" doesn't have a root cause, i.e. BECAUSE justice was tied to money, THAT'S WHY I started this affordable law school on island - is my literal thought.



"Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam" is very close.





Please let me know of any progress; I need to get this perfect.

Grati e Vale,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra



________________________________

From: publius_porcius_licinus <eljefe3126@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:26 AM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Getting closer to a motto.







P Porcius Licinus Ti Quadrae SPD



I am hardly a competent latinist. But may I humbly suggest something along the lines of Iustitia Emancipatus a Pecuniam? (Justice Emancipated From Money)



Vale optime



P Porcius Licinus



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90422 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: CALL TO ORDER - SUMMONING THE COMITIA CENTURIATA
Salve;

I am monitoring still, will perform as Diribitor as promised.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@... --
Vale et valete
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator Piperbarbus Poetus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90423 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] CALL TO ORDER – SUMMONING THE COMITIA CENTURIATA
Ave;

Ready to serve.

--
Vale et valete
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator Piperbarbus Poetus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90424 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Quaestoribus
Ave Consul Sulla;

In your answer to the esteemed Caeca, you answered the question I had.

--
Vale et valete
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator Piperbarbus Poetus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90425 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave L Ulpius;

To which groups are you referring?

--
Vale et valete
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator Piperbarbus Poetus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90426 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave,

I am referring to Regio-Florida (last post Mar 2011) and FactioVeneta (last post Apr 2011). I am sure that there are other Yahoo Groups inactive due to the owners no longer active citizens; but the above groups what concern me at the moment. I wish to breathe new life and excitement into these groups. At the present time my Regio, lacking governmental leadership, we're very limited in a way to communicate about Regio matters.

Just as in the days of our ancestors, I believe the games provide a must needed distraction from the every day rigous activities of life. Not everyone can hold an office, especially newer citizens such as myself. This is another way (besides Cultus Deorum etc) to keep us interested and active until such time when we can. That is why I wish to restart the FactioVeneta group. As well to prove we're the better factio.

Vale Optime!
L. Ulpius Atellus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90427 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Laterensis Atello omnibusque S.P.D.

You make some good points, but everybody knows that factio albata is the best.  :-)

Since we have a number of inactive groups, including some of the sodalitates, I'm guessing that means we simply don't have enough active citizens to keep them all afloat.  I'm thinking we need to retire some of them for now, and focus on rebuilding our numbers.  As we expand, we can reopen them as needed. 

Getting some of the regional groups for the provinces up and running again might not hurt, though.  Connecting citizens who live near each other is a good thing.  Face-to-face meetings between citizens could be a decent way to expand, too.  Normally, I'd suggest that the provincial governors could take the lead on this, but right now we have a number of provinces governed by people who don't actually live there.  Whether that's a problem or not is, of course, a matter for the Senate.

Di vos incolumes custodiant!

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90428 From: publius_porcius_licinus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave,

As FactioVeneta is a moderated group, I have been unable to post there for as long as I have been a member of the group. I would be happy to change this if it were possible.

Vale Optime!

P Porcius Licinus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90429 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave!

Does anyone know who the owner of the group is?

Vale,

Sulla


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, publius_porcius_licinus <
eljefe3126@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90430 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
M. Pompeius Caninus L. Ulpio Atello sal.


Factio Veneta should be coming back to life in less than two weeks if
everything goes well.


I am working with Yahoo on replacing the moderator for Factio Veneta.
Unfortunately, Yahoo takes a position that a group is the property of
the owner rather than the members so when an owner disappears Yahoo is
reluctant to give the group over to someone else to run even if that
person is very actively involved in the group. But Yahoo does have a
procedure to regain control of groups that have been abandoned. It is a
heavily bureaucratic and burdensome process but it can be done. A recent
example of how this might be done can be seen at
http://birding.aba.org/message.php?mesid=423697&MLID=NYSB&MLNM=NYS%20Butterflies
and the Yahoo support knowledgebase article is
http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?locale=en_US&page=content&id=SLN7163&y=PROD_GRPS
outlines the basic steps. This process is done through a support form,
the abandoned group and email but I may have the secret phone number for
Yahoo tech support stashed away somewhere.

Bene vale!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
From: "l_ulpius_atellus" <koalmyner@... Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 8:08 am
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Ave,

I am referring to Regio-Florida (last post Mar 2011) and FactioVeneta
(last post Apr 2011). I am sure that there are other Yahoo Groups
inactive due to the owners no longer active citizens; but the above
groups what concern me at the moment. I wish to breathe new life and
excitement into these groups. At the present time my Regio, lacking
governmental leadership, we're very limited in a way to communicate
about Regio matters.

Just as in the days of our ancestors, I believe the games provide a must
needed distraction from the every day rigous activities of life. Not
everyone can hold an office, especially newer citizens such as myself.
This is another way (besides Cultus Deorum etc) to keep us interested
and active until such time when we can. That is why I wish to restart
the FactioVeneta group. As well to prove we're the better factio.

Vale Optime!
L. Ulpius Atellus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, SP Robinson <p.ullerius.stephanus@... wrote:
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90431 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave!

For Factio Veneta:

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta/

The owner is Lucius Vitellius Triarius, who is long gone. His email is
bouncing and he no longer has a Yahoo profile.

The moderator is Sextus Lucilius Tutor, who does not respond to email
messages.

The owner/moderator information can be seen here:
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta/members?group=mod

Vale bene!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 8:50 am
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Ave!

Does anyone know who the owner of the group is?

Vale,

Sulla


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM, publius_porcius_licinus <
eljefe3126@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90432 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave,

I will forward this to the Censors to see if they might have a different
email address to contact them

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90433 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
M. Pompeius Caninus L. Ulpio Atello sal.


Factio Veneta should be coming back to life in less than two weeks if
everything goes well.


I am working with Yahoo on replacing the moderator for Factio Veneta.
Unfortunately, Yahoo takes a position that a group is the property of
the owner rather than the members so when an owner disappears Yahoo is
reluctant to give the group over to someone else to run even if that
person is very actively involved in the group. But Yahoo does have a
procedure to regain control of groups that have been abandoned. It is a
heavily bureaucratic and burdensome process but it can be done.


Bene vale!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!







-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
From: "l_ulpius_atellus" <koalmyner@... Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 8:08 am
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Ave,

I am referring to Regio-Florida (last post Mar 2011) and FactioVeneta
(last post Apr 2011). I am sure that there are other Yahoo Groups
inactive due to the owners no longer active citizens; but the above
groups what concern me at the moment. I wish to breathe new life and
excitement into these groups. At the present time my Regio, lacking
governmental leadership, we're very limited in a way to communicate
about Regio matters.

Just as in the days of our ancestors, I believe the games provide a
must needed distraction from the every day rigous activities of life.
Not everyone can hold an office, especially newer citizens such as
myself. This is another way (besides Cultus Deorum etc) to keep us
interested and active until such time when we can. That is why I wish to
restart the FactioVeneta group. As well to prove we're the better
factio.

Vale Optime!
L. Ulpius Atellus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, SP Robinson
<p.ullerius.stephanus@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90434 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
We shall see what Factio is the best soon enough :)

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90435 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
M. Pompeius Caninus L. Ulpio Atello sal.


Factio Veneta should be coming back to life in less than two weeks if
everything goes well.


I am working with Yahoo on replacing the moderator for Factio Veneta.
Unfortunately, Yahoo takes a position that a group is the property of
the owner rather than the members so when an owner disappears Yahoo is
reluctant to give the group over to someone else to run even if that
person is very actively involved in the group. But Yahoo does have a
procedure to regain control of groups that have been abandoned. It is a
heavily bureaucratic and burdensome process but it can be done. A recent
example of how this might be done can be seen at
http://birding.aba.org/message.php?mesid=423697&MLID=NYSB&MLNM=NYS%20Butterflies
and the Yahoo support knowledgebase article is
http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?locale=en_US&page=content&id=SLN7163&y=PROD_GRPS
outlines the basic steps. This process is done through a support form,
the abandoned group and email but I may have the secret phone number for
Yahoo tech support stashed away somewhere.

Bene vale!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
From: "l_ulpius_atellus" <koalmyner@... Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 8:08 am
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Ave,

I am referring to Regio-Florida (last post Mar 2011) and FactioVeneta
(last post Apr 2011). I am sure that there are other Yahoo Groups
inactive due to the owners no longer active citizens; but the above
groups what concern me at the moment. I wish to breathe new life and
excitement into these groups. At the present time my Regio, lacking
governmental leadership, we're very limited in a way to communicate
about Regio matters.

Just as in the days of our ancestors, I believe the games provide a must
needed distraction from the every day rigous activities of life. Not
everyone can hold an office, especially newer citizens such as myself.
This is another way (besides Cultus Deorum etc) to keep us interested
and active until such time when we can. That is why I wish to restart
the FactioVeneta group. As well to prove we're the better factio.

Vale Optime!
L. Ulpius Atellus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, SP Robinson <p.ullerius.stephanus@... wrote:
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90436 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Salvete!



Oh .the answer to which faction is superior is both easy and transparently
obvious! Albata Victoria! Semper Albata!



Valete bene!

C. Maria Caeca



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90437 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Caninus Caecae sal.

I believe this is the only serious political or cultural difference
between us, Caeca. But I feel I must point out your error.

Factio Veneta reigns supreme!

Fac valeas!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!




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Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
From: "cmc" <c.mariacaeca@... Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 12:01 pm
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Salvete!

Oh .the answer to which faction is superior is both easy and
transparently
obvious! Albata Victoria! Semper Albata!

Valete bene!

C. Maria Caeca

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90438 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Salve Canine!



Well, now. I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree on this one, Amice
(Of course, I'm right, but .) J



Vale bene!



C. Maria Caeca

Albata Victoria! Semper Albata!



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90439 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-21
Subject: Latin Pronunciation, anyone?
Omnibus in foro S. P. D.

I happened to find this on YouTube, and though extremely basic, it's a nice
little introduction to basic Latin pronunciation. He doesn't go into
diphthongs, at least not in this video, but it's a nice way to get started
...and he got me with his little joke!

Vale et valete bene!
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90440 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
I love it Quadratus!

 
Can I get a consensus? My Latin is still a baby. Is this grammatically correct: 
IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
=

Justice to be emancipated from money

Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: "charlesaronowitz@..." <charlesaronowitz@... To: "nova-roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam


Salve!

How about  IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA  -  Justice to be emancipated from money, hinting at the previous situation and promising to correct it.  (Better check the Latin, though.)

Vale!

C Claudius Quadratus

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: remarq777@...
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 04:19:12 -0700
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam




















 


   
     
     
      T.M.Quadra P.Lucinus Salve!



That is really close. I'll have to work with this. 



"Justice Emancipated From Money" doesn't have a root cause, i.e. BECAUSE justice was tied to money, THAT'S WHY I started this affordable law school on island - is my literal thought.



"Iustitia Emancipatus A Pecuniam" is very close.





Please let me know of any progress; I need to get this perfect.

Grati e Vale,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra



________________________________

From: publius_porcius_licinus <eljefe3126@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:26 AM

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Getting closer to a motto.





 

P Porcius Licinus Ti Quadrae SPD



I am hardly a competent latinist.  But may I humbly suggest something along the lines of Iustitia Emancipatus a Pecuniam?  (Justice Emancipated From Money)



Vale optime



P Porcius Licinus



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90441 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.
I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it
is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA
PECVNIAE".
Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.
Vale.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90442 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA
Salvete!

I assumed pecunia to be ablative because of the implied preposition. But I don't have much experience with future participles or gerundives :-)

Valete!

Quadratus

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: arthur.f.waite@...
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 08:09:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA


























Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.

I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it

is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA

PECVNIAE".

Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.

Vale.



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90443 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: [Nova_roma_] Latin Pronunciation, anyone?
Salvete Omnes!



OOPS! Let's hope it's still in my clipboard!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-QorH3Fi4
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh-QorH3Fi4&feature=em-uploademail &feature=em-uploademail



Sorry about that! This is the link to the Latin pronunciation video .and
it works, I just checked, J.



Valete bene!

C. Maria Caeca





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90444 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Salve L Ulpius;

As for the Factio Veneta list, Maxima Valeria Messallina owner and
Vestal Priestess, resigned from Nova Roma shortly after the final post
to that list.

Perhaps our Consul, as president of Nova Roma, Inc, could approach
Yahoo! with the idea of getting the list back as part of our cultural
endeavors. I'd be willing to try as a Senator (ie Director of the
Corporation).

I don't know who the owner of the Regio-Florida list is, but if we can
determine that, perhaps another regain?

Vale - Venator






--
Vale et valete
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator Piperbarbus Poetus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90445 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Salve Venator;

I believe someone else is working on bringing Factio Veneta back online. As for me, I am currently following Yahoo's guidelines to get moderator/owner privileges for Regio-Florida group. If you or the Consul can make it happen quicker I, as well as potential citizens in Florida, would be the happier for it.

Vale!

L. Ulpius Atellus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90446 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Verbatum
T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus I.Paterculus Salutem plurimam dicit,
I get the Ivstitia & Pecuniae words.

I haven't been able to pinpoint the definition of EMANCIPANDA.

 
Please define the sentence verbatum:
Latin: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE

English:

Gratias tibi ago,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA



 
Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.
I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it
is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA
PECVNIAE".
Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.
Vale.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90447 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: Re: Verbatum
Caninus Quadrae SPD.


Perhaps these links will help. You can find emancipanda here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipandus#Latin


and here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipanda#Latin


Vale bene!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!





-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 5:45 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus I.Paterculus Salutem plurimam dicit,
I get the Ivstitia & Pecuniae words.

I haven't been able to pinpoint the definition of EMANCIPANDA.


Please define the sentence verbatum:
Latin: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE

English:

Gratias tibi ago,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA



Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.
I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it
is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA
PECVNIAE".
Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.
Vale.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90448 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-22
Subject: FINAL DRAFT - Lex Cornelia de Quaestoribus
Pursuant to Section IV.A.2.b and c of the constitution of Nova Roma and of
IV.A.6 of the Constitution of Nova Roma

Introduction: In recent years Nova Roma has had ongoing vacancy issues
specifically regarding the electoral officers, Diribitores and Custodes,
Editor Commentariorum and Rogatores positions. This has an adverse affect
on the people of Nova Roma being able to express their will because the
Comitia's that represent the Peoples� wishes have not been able to be
summoned. This law intends to address the issue by giving expanding
Consular authority to assign Quaestors to fill the vacant positions until
those positions are filled by election or appointment.

A. The positions and offices under the scope of this lex are:


Diribitores (also known as election officers)
Rogatores.
Custodes.
Editor commentariorum



B: In the event of a magisterial or administrative vacancy on any of the
positions mentioned in Section A The Consul may assign Quaestors to one of
those vacant positions. These vacancies, most importantly, the election
officers, are vital to the organization and must be filled even if it means
that magistrates who are allowed the use of Quaestors go without.


C. Upon being assigned to an open office, a Quaestor will be listed as
holding both the Quaestor position to which he or she was elected and as a
Suffect from the position he or she was appointed to on the Nova Roma
Magistrates page on the official website. Each Quaestor can only be
assigned to one open position described in section A as Suffect at a time
but may be assigned to more than one such suffect office in the course of a
year provided only one such office is held at any time. Any Quaestor assigned
to an open position described in A will earn the full century points for the
Quaestor position and half of the Century points for holding a Suffect
position he or she was appointed. If a Quaestor is assigned as a Suffect
officer in those positions more than once in the course of a year, that
Quaestor will receive full Century points for holding the office of
Quaestor and
half the Century points normally granted for the Suffect office with the
highest Century point value that he or she held regardless of the length of
time actually holding the office.

C. Election related issues: each Quaestor, upon accepting the position of
a Diribitor or a Custos accepts the restrictions of not being able to run
for office in the next calendar year. If the Quaestor wishes to be
relieved of the position the Quaestor must petition the Consuls with at
least 30 (thirty) days notice of the summons of the Comitia (Comitia
Centuriata, Comitia Populi Tributa or the Comitia Plebis Tributa). The
Consul has the discretion to accept or deny the petition with notification
given in writing to the Quaestor within seven (7) days of the request.

D. Any changes on any of the positions listed in A will be considered to
be reflected in this lex. If a position ceases to be an independent office
or ceases to exist then no Consul would be able to assign a Quaestor to
that position. In other words, this lex will be valid unless specifically
repealed by future legislation.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90449 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: PANDA
T.M.Quadra M.Caninus salutem plurimam dicit,
It's the "PANDA" part that I don't get. I see the EMANCI part as emancipate; what is PANDA?
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: M. Pompeius Caninus <caninus@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum



 
Caninus Quadrae SPD.

Perhaps these links will help. You can find emancipanda here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipandus#Latin

and here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipanda#Latin

Vale bene!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 5:45 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus I.Paterculus Salutem plurimam dicit,
I get the Ivstitia & Pecuniae words.

I haven't been able to pinpoint the definition of EMANCIPANDA.

Please define the sentence verbatum:
Latin: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE

English:

Gratias tibi ago,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA

Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.
I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it
is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA
PECVNIAE".
Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.
Vale.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90450 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Final Draft - Lex Cornelia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum
Resolved, it is the purpose of this lex to establish ongoing, simple and
easily understood procedures to summon the Comitia Centuriata. In the past
3 years Nova Roma has been unable to function the Comitias under the
existing procedures and thusly required the Senate to pass Emergency
Decrees (SCUs) to resolve this impasse. By promulgating this lex no
further SCU will be needed to summon this Comitia (Comitia Centuriata).



Pursuant to Section III B of the Constitution of Nova Roma, empowers the
Comitia to establish procedures and rules for which it is allowed to
operate. All previous legislation previously passed is hereby resinded and
repealed.

I. Laws affectively repealed include but are not limited
to:

Lex Fabia de Ratione Comitorium Centuriatorum and the Lex Curiatia Iulia de
ratione comitiorum centuriatorum (
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Fabia_de_ratione_comitiorum_centuriatorum_(Nova_Roma))



II. Calling to Order the Comitia Centuriata

a. Either a Consul, Praetor, or Interrex (hereinafter referred to as
presiding magistrate) may, as described by the Constitution call the
Comitia Centuriata (hereinafter referred to as �The Comitia�) in order to
hold a vote on the following: A Lex, a series of leges, to hold an
election or to conduct an appropriate legal proceeding.

i. The
Comitia may be summoned by the presiding magistrate by making a public
declaration announcing the summons in the official public fora.

ii. It is
recommended that the presiding magistrate seek auspices with a member of
the College of Augurs or an appropriate alternative.

iii. The
Summons must contain the following information:

Subject heading: Official Summons of the Comitia Centuriata

In the text of the message must include:

Candidates, date of citizenship, if they met the Constitutional and legal
requirements of the office they are seeking, and The office they are
seeking.

Full text of leges which are being voted on, Draft version is acceptable at
this point.

The Dates and time when the members of the Comitia shall begin and end the
Contio and the start and end date of the voting period.

Also, the presiding magistrate shall include any additional special
instructions necessary that pertain to the mechanics of the vote.

In the event of a legal proceeding the presiding magistrate will include
all necessary information including but not limited to: Name of the
petitioner, name of the defendant, the charges specified.

iv. The
Timing of the Vote.

1. The Official Summons of the Comitia Centuriata is identified as an
edictum. A copy of the Official Summons will be posted on the Website
with the corresponding designation.

2. The edictum containing the call to vote must be issued at least 120
hours (5 days) prior to the start of the voting session. This period shall
be known as the Contio and during this time formal discussion of the agenda
(leges and legal proceeding) and/or candidates shall take place.

3. In the event that, in an effort to fill a magisterial office, there
are not enough candidates at the time of the opening of the Contio, the
presiding magistrate may accept additional candidates up to 48 hours
remaining in the Contio. In other words, there are two vacant offices for
office of Praetor � at the time the presiding magistrate summons the
Comitia only one candidate has stepped forward � leaving 1 vacancy. 24
hours after the Contio has started another citizen has stepped forward (and
has met the requirements) the presiding magistrate has the discretion to
include that individual in this comitia summons, a new election or a delay
in the existing contio does not need to take place. The acceptance of late
accepting magistrates does not give the presiding magistrate to disregard
any constitutional requirements for office.

4. Final draft of all legislation being voted on must be presented to
the Comitia at least 48 hours prior to the close of the Contio.

5. During the Contio all the necessary constitutionally empowered
positions and powers are all available. Tribunes can issue intercessio,
magistrates who share imperium or outrank in imperium may exercise their
constitutionally derived powers.

6. Intercessio may be exercised against the following: The entire
election, vote, one specific item on the agenda, or multiple items on the
agenda. The removal of an item or items is effective for the length of
this comitia summons only. It does not prevent the item from being listed
in a future Comitia summons.

7. In voting for a lex, the minimum contio period must last no fewer
than 120 hours (5 days)

8. In a legal proceeding the minimum contio period must last no fewer
than 192 hours (8 days)

9. The ability to vote during the voting period may be impacted due to
calendar issues as enacted by decreta of the Collegium Pontificum. Any
impact must be announced by the presiding magistrate.

10. Election officials shall tally the vote and deliver the results to
both the presiding magistrate and the Censors (Secretaries of the
Corporation) within 48 hours of the close of voting period. The presiding
magistrate cannot announce the result until the certification process is
fulfilled.

11. The Censors have 24 hours to certify the results given by the election
officials. They have the ability to review all actions taken by the
election officials to ensure accuracy and impartiality. Once the Censors
certify the vote and/or election the Censors or the presiding magistrate
shall announce the result(s) in the appropriate official public fora.
Once completed the presiding magistrate shall bring the Comitia to a
close.

III. Voting Procedures

A. Each citizen will receive a unique voter identification code. This
code shall be used to maintain anonymity in the voting process, and to
minimize the possibility of voter fraud. The voter identification code can
be issued via automatic process by the web based secured form used or by
the 3rd party alternative. If an automated process is impractical, or
non-existent the Censores shall in a timely manner, prior to vote, issue
the voter codes, delivered to the citizens and supply the electoral
officers with the list of valid voter codes within each Century in a way
that assures the anonymity of the citizens vote. The election officials
shall not have access to the names of the citizens associated with the
particular voter identification codes, nor shall the election officials
have access to the Censor tools or censor database.



B. The election officials, Censors, Web Master, or any authorized or
appointed official shall make available a cista (a secure web-based form �
internal voting platform) or a secured 3rd party alternative (currently
Nova Roma uses votingplace.net) that will allow citizens to vote. It is
highly recommended that a link is posted on the Nova Roma website, and a
link posted in the official public fora before the voting period is open.
The election officials will keep record of the voter identification number
and the desired vote of the individual. The information thus collected
will be either forwarded to the election officials as it is gathered or at
the end of the process, at their discretion. Alternative methods of voting
may be enacted by other legislation as required.



C. In the case of a magisterial election, each voter shall have the
option to mark each candidate �Yes (uti rogas) or leave the candidate
unmarked; each ballot shall carry the following direction: �You may vote
for 1 candidate per office vacancy, please select the magistrate you most
strongly support.� In the case of legislation, for each proposed law, each
voter shall have to option to vote �yes (uti rogas) or �no (antiquo).� In
the case of a legal proceeding each voter shall have the option to vote
�absolve� (I absolve, innocent) or �condemn� (I condemn, guilty).



D. Once cast, no vote may be altered, even with the correct voter
identification code. Should multiple votes be registered with the same
voter identification code, only the first recorded vote shall be used in
tallying the vote.

IV. Procedures for Counting Votes



A. Votes shall be counted by Centuries



B. In the case of magisterial election the votes of each century shall
be calculated as follows. For each century the candidates shall be ranked
in order by the number of yes votes they receive. The candidate(s) that
receives the most �yes� votes wins the century. Ties will be decided by
using the procedure established in "THE BREAKING OF TIES" section of this
lex. If more than one office is vacant the HIGHEST ranked member wins until
all offices are filled. If no one in the century votes, the century is
skipped and the election officials move to the next century.



C. In the case of a vote on a lex, each century shall vote in favor of
the legs if a majority of votes received by members of that century are in
favor. If no one in the century votes, the century is skipped and the
election officials move to the next century.



D. In the case of a vote on a legal proceeding before the Comitia
Centuriata, each century shall vote for conviction if a majority of the
votes is received from the members of that century are marked �condemno.�
Ties within a century will result in that century voting to acquit. If no
one in the century votes, the century is skipped and the election officials
move to the next century.



E. The Voting period for the Comitia, shall be no fewer than 168 hours
(7 days). All centuries are allowed to vote at the commencement of the
voting period. The presiding magistrate will notify the Comitia the
opening of the voting period via the official public fora and a notice will
be posted on the website.



F. Results shall be counted by century.



G. In case of magisterial elections the results are calculated as
follows:



a. Each century will rank the candidates voting results from highest
to lowest. The candidate that wins the most votes is declared the winner
of that century. If there is a tie in deciding who won the century, Ties
will be decided by using the procedure established in "THE BREAKING OF
TIES" section of this lex (by breaking the tie between the candidates who
are tied). Depending on the number of vacancies there could be more than
one winner. (If there is more than one vacancy, each century should have
more than one winner, those being the highest and second highest vote
totals per century, etc etc until all vacancies are filled.) This process
will be done for each century that voted. The winner then is determined by
which candidate won the most centuries, until all office vacancies are
filled. If candidates are tied by the number of centuries won � the winner
will be determined by lot (using the procedure established in the breaking
of ties section of this lex � until all vacancies are filled.



H. In the case of a magisterial election, a majority is defined as one
the candidate who receives the most centuries per vacancy (not counting
those centuries that did not vote).



I. In the case of lex or leges, a simple majority of centuries
casting votes must vote in favor for the lex to be adopted. In the case of
a vote on the a lex or Leges, a simple majority is defined as one half of
the number of centuries casting votes plus one, fractions being rounded
down. If a Century is tied, the century will be counted as a No vote,
there will be no tie breaking procedure. A century in which no voter cast
votes shall not be counted.



J. In the case of a legal proceeding, a majority of the centuries
must vote in favor of conviction in order for the accused to be condemned.
In the case of a trial before the Comitia Centuriata, a "majority" is
defined as "one half of the total number of centuries, plus one, fractions
being rounded down."



a. Even those centuries in which no voters cast votes shall be
counted, as implicit votes for acquittal, toward the total. If a Century
has no members enrolled the election officials are instructed to remove
those centuries from consideration during the vote counting process � Only
centuries with individuals may determine the outcome of a legal proceeding.



K. Votes may be tallied by automated means should the election
officials determine such is preferable to, and at least as accurate as a
manual count.



L. Only the aggregate voters of the centuries shall be delivered to
the presiding magistrate; the votes of individual citizen shall be secret.

THE BREAKING OF TIES

The following are the only three methods to be utilized to determine
the results
of ties. The process to be used will be in numerical order � in other
words no choosing. If a victor is not determined by the method #1 - then
#2 will be used and then #3 until a winner shall be determined. This will
be utilized for both ties in individual centuries and in the sum total of
the Comitia.

1. In case of tied candidates the tie is resolved giving the highest
position to the candidate who has been a citizen of Nova Roma the longest.

2. If the above tie breaking process does not resolve the tie situation
the winning candidate between the tied candidates will be the one with the
most century points.

3. If the above two tie breaking processes fail to break the tie the result
will be determined between the ages of the tied candidates. The oldest
candidate will be declared the winner of the tie.

Addendum: In the event that Nova Roma implements a Cista voting
platform (internally
controlled) and can establish a random tie breaking program that cannot be
tampered with to manipulate the results, (Even the implication of
tampering could damage the credibility of our electoral process and must
be avoided to the extent of our ability to do so. Nothing must infringe on the
integrity of the election.) Such a tie breaking program would need to
be thoroughly
tested and endorsed by the Senate of Nova Roma, prior to being used by the
Comitia. Upon this requirement being satisfied the election officers may
use a lot breaking device with the approval and consent of the Censors The
Censors through the certification process must be confident that the
integrity of the tie breaking procedure is both beyond the bounds of human
manipulation and that the will of the People through the vote is maintained.
The entire electoral process must be, and be seen to be, entirely credible
and transparent. Once completed then the Certification process may
progress as written in this Lex.

In addition, the presiding magistrate has the duty and responsibility to
request a member of the College of Pontifices or appropriate Priest to
conduct a ceremonia, at the start of a vote, to address the State�s need to
utilize a method of tie resolution that does not utilize chance and a more
direct form of divine intervention due to the corruption and tampering of
men.

CERTIFICATION PROCESS

The Censors have the responsibility and powers to investigate any
verifiable concern regarding the vote, within the timeframe.

If the censors need additional time, one or both censor�s may seek an
extension of time from the presiding magistrate. The presiding magistrate
has the discretion to approve an extension or not. The Censors
certify the election by sending a notification to the presiding magistrate
that they, �Approve and sign off on the Comitia results.�

If the Censors fail to sign off on the certification process they are required
to explain their rationale to the presiding magistrate. With this
notification the presiding magistrate notifies the Senate. Within 48
hours, the presiding magistrate issues an emergency summons of the Senate for
the sole purpose of addressing this issue and to promulgate a Senatus Consulta
based on the Comitia situation. If the Senate decides to override the
Censors decision the Censors can 1. Certify the election or 2. Refuse to
sign. If the Censors choose to refuse to sign, the Senate certifies
the election
in place of the Censors. If the Senate determines that the Censors issues
are valid and side with the Censors the results of the Comitia are null and
void. The Presiding magistrate notifies the People and closes the Comitia and
the Comitia will need to be completely restarted.


If the Censors fail to respond within the 24 hour timeframe, the Censors
are deemed to have consented and the Comitia results can then be posted by
the presiding magistrate.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90451 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: PANDA
Caninus Quadrae SPD.


The English word emancipate originates from the Latin verb emancipare.
More details can be found in the etymology section of
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipate in Wiktionary. Although English
borrows a large number of words from Latin, the languages do not form
words in the same way. The reason the word used in this case is
emancipanda is because it is a form of the participle emancipandus that
is correct in its number and gender for expressing the thought in Latin.
Emancipandus and emancipanda are future passive participle forms that
are equivalent to the English phrase "which is to be emancipated".


Vale bene!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!





-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] PANDA
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 8:09 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
T.M.Quadra M.Caninus salutem plurimam dicit,
It's the "PANDA" part that I don't get. I see the EMANCI part as
emancipate; what is PANDA?
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: M. Pompeius Caninus <caninus@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum



Caninus Quadrae SPD.

Perhaps these links will help. You can find emancipanda here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipandus#Latin

and here:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipanda#Latin

Vale bene!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 5:45 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus I.Paterculus Salutem plurimam dicit,
I get the Ivstitia & Pecuniae words.

I haven't been able to pinpoint the definition of EMANCIPANDA.

Please define the sentence verbatum:
Latin: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE

English:

Gratias tibi ago,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA

Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.
I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it
is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA
PECVNIAE".
Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.
Vale.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90452 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: PANDA
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90453 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
TMQuadra ATScholastica MPCaninus SPD,


IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
So then, can the above mean - JUSTICE (for women & men = all) IS NO LONGER TIED TO MONEY - ?

If not, does it have a meaning?

 
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] PANDA



 
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90454 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: FINAL FINAL Draft
Ave,

There was one error that was brought to my attention. This is the final
draft.

Resolved, it is the purpose of this lex to establish ongoing, simple and
easily understood procedures to summon the Comitia Centuriata. In the past
3 years Nova Roma has been unable to function the Comitias under the
existing procedures and thusly required the Senate to pass Emergency
Decrees (SCUs) to resolve this impasse. By promulgating this lex no
further SCU will be needed to summon this Comitia (Comitia Centuriata).



Pursuant to Section III B of the Constitution of Nova Roma, empowers the
Comitia to establish procedures and rules for which it is allowed to
operate. All previous legislation previously passed is hereby resinded and
repealed.

I. Laws affectively repealed include but are not limited
to:

Lex Fabia de Ratione Comitorium Centuriatorum and the Lex Curiatia Iulia de
ratione comitiorum centuriatorum (
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Fabia_de_ratione_comitiorum_centuriatorum_(Nova_Roma))



II. Calling to Order the Comitia Centuriata

a. Either a Consul, Praetor, or Interrex (hereinafter referred to as
presiding magistrate) may, as described by the Constitution call the
Comitia Centuriata (hereinafter referred to as �The Comitia�) in order to
hold a vote on the following: A Lex, a series of leges, to hold an
election or to conduct an appropriate legal proceeding.

i. The
Comitia may be summoned by the presiding magistrate by making a public
declaration announcing the summons in the official public fora.

ii. It is
recommended that the presiding magistrate seek auspices with a member of
the College of Augurs or an appropriate alternative.

iii. The
Summons must contain the following information:

Subject heading: Official Summons of the Comitia Centuriata

In the text of the message must include:

Candidates, date of citizenship, if they met the Constitutional and legal
requirements of the office they are seeking, and The office they are
seeking.

Full text of leges which are being voted on, Draft version is acceptable at
this point.

The Dates and time when the members of the Comitia shall begin and end the
Contio and the start and end date of the voting period.

Also, the presiding magistrate shall include any additional special
instructions necessary that pertain to the mechanics of the vote.

In the event of a legal proceeding the presiding magistrate will include
all necessary information including but not limited to: Name of the
petitioner, name of the defendant, the charges specified.

iv. The
Timing of the Vote.

1. The Official Summons of the Comitia Centuriata is identified as an
edictum. A copy of the Official Summons will be posted on the Website
with the corresponding designation.

2. The edictum containing the call to vote must be issued at least 120
hours (5 days) prior to the start of the voting session. This period shall
be known as the Contio and during this time formal discussion of the agenda
(leges and legal proceeding) and/or candidates shall take place.

3. In the event that, in an effort to fill a magisterial office, there
are not enough candidates at the time of the opening of the Contio, the
presiding magistrate may accept additional candidates up to 48 hours
remaining in the Contio. In other words, there are two vacant offices for
office of Praetor � at the time the presiding magistrate summons the
Comitia only one candidate has stepped forward � leaving 1 vacancy. 24
hours after the Contio has started another citizen has stepped forward (and
has met the requirements) the presiding magistrate has the discretion to
include that individual in this comitia summons, a new election or a delay
in the existing contio does not need to take place. The acceptance of late
accepting magistrates does not give the presiding magistrate to disregard
any constitutional requirements for office.

4. Final draft of all legislation being voted on must be presented to
the Comitia at least 48 hours prior to the close of the Contio.

5. During the Contio all the necessary constitutionally empowered
positions and powers are all available. Tribunes can issue intercessio,
magistrates who share imperium or outrank in imperium may exercise their
constitutionally derived powers.

6. Intercessio may be exercised against the following: The entire
election, vote, one specific item on the agenda, or multiple items on the
agenda. The removal of an item or items is effective for the length of
this comitia summons only. It does not prevent the item from being listed
in a future Comitia summons.

7. In voting for a lex, the minimum contio period must last no fewer
than 120 hours (5 days)

8. In a legal proceeding the minimum contio period must last no fewer
than 192 hours (8 days)

9. The ability to vote during the voting period may be impacted due to
calendar issues as enacted by decreta of the Collegium Pontificum. Any
impact must be announced by the presiding magistrate.

10. Election officials shall tally the vote and deliver the results to
both the presiding magistrate and the Censors (Secretaries of the
Corporation) within 48 hours of the close of voting period. The presiding
magistrate cannot announce the result until the certification process is
fulfilled.

11. The Censors have 24 hours to certify the results given by the election
officials. They have the ability to review all actions taken by the
election officials to ensure accuracy and impartiality. Once the Censors
certify the vote and/or election the Censors or the presiding magistrate
shall announce the result(s) in the appropriate official public fora.
Once completed the presiding magistrate shall bring the Comitia to a
close.

III. Voting Procedures

A. Each citizen will receive a unique voter identification code. This
code shall be used to maintain anonymity in the voting process, and to
minimize the possibility of voter fraud. The voter identification code can
be issued via automatic process by the web based secured form used or by
the 3rd party alternative. If an automated process is impractical, or
non-existent the Censores shall in a timely manner, prior to vote, issue
the voter codes, delivered to the citizens and supply the electoral
officers with the list of valid voter codes within each Century in a way
that assures the anonymity of the citizens vote. The election officials
shall not have access to the names of the citizens associated with the
particular voter identification codes, nor shall the election officials
have access to the Censor tools or censor database.



B. The election officials, Censors, Web Master, or any authorized or
appointed official shall make available a cista (a secure web-based form �
internal voting platform) or a secured 3rd party alternative (currently
Nova Roma uses votingplace.net) that will allow citizens to vote. It is
highly recommended that a link is posted on the Nova Roma website, and a
link posted in the official public fora before the voting period is open.
The election officials will keep record of the voter identification number
and the desired vote of the individual. The information thus collected
will be either forwarded to the election officials as it is gathered or at
the end of the process, at their discretion. Alternative methods of voting
may be enacted by other legislation as required.



C. In the case of a magisterial election, each voter shall have the
option to mark each candidate �Yes (uti rogas) or leave the candidate
unmarked; each ballot shall carry the following direction: �You may vote
for 1 candidate per office vacancy, please select the magistrate you most
strongly support.� In the case of legislation, for each proposed law, each
voter shall have to option to vote �yes (uti rogas) or �no (antiquo).� In
the case of a legal proceeding each voter shall have the option to vote
�absolve� (I absolve, innocent) or �condemn� (I condemn, guilty).



D. Once cast, no vote may be altered, even with the correct voter
identification code. Should multiple votes be registered with the same
voter identification code, only the first recorded vote shall be used in
tallying the vote.

IV. Procedures for Counting Votes



A. Votes shall be counted by Centuries



B. In the case of magisterial election the votes of each century shall
be calculated as follows. For each century the candidates shall be ranked
in order by the number of yes votes they receive. The candidate(s) that
receives the most �yes� votes wins the century. Ties will be decided by
using the procedure established in "THE BREAKING OF TIES" section of this
lex. If more than one office is vacant the HIGHEST ranked member wins until
all offices are filled. If no one in the century votes, the century is
skipped and the election officials move to the next century.



C. In the case of a vote on a lex, each century shall vote in favor of
the legs if a majority of votes received by members of that century are in
favor. If no one in the century votes, the century is skipped and the
election officials move to the next century.



D. In the case of a vote on a legal proceeding before the Comitia
Centuriata, each century shall vote for conviction if a majority of the
votes is received from the members of that century are marked �condemno.�
Ties within a century will result in that century voting to acquit. If no
one in the century votes, the century is skipped and the election officials
move to the next century.



E. The Voting period for the Comitia, shall be no fewer than 168 hours
(7 days). All centuries are allowed to vote at the commencement of the
voting period. The presiding magistrate will notify the Comitia the
opening of the voting period via the official public fora and a notice will
be posted on the website.



F. Results shall be counted by century.



G. In case of magisterial elections the results are calculated as
follows:



a. Each century will rank the candidates voting results from highest
to lowest. The candidate that wins the most votes is declared the winner
of that century. If there is a tie in deciding who won the century, Ties
will be decided by using the procedure established in "THE BREAKING OF
TIES" section of this lex (by breaking the tie between the candidates who
are tied). Depending on the number of vacancies there could be more than
one winner. (If there is more than one vacancy, each century should have
more than one winner, those being the highest and second highest vote
totals per century, etc etc until all vacancies are filled.) This process
will be done for each century that voted. The winner then is determined by
which candidate won the most centuries, until all office vacancies are
filled.



H. In the case of a magisterial election, a majority is defined as one
the candidate who receives the most centuries per vacancy (not counting
those centuries that did not vote).



I. In the case of lex or leges, a simple majority of centuries
casting votes must vote in favor for the lex to be adopted. In the case of
a vote on the a lex or Leges, a simple majority is defined as one half of
the number of centuries casting votes plus one, fractions being rounded
down. If a Century is tied, the century will be counted as a No vote,
there will be no tie breaking procedure. A century in which no voter cast
votes shall not be counted.



J. In the case of a legal proceeding, a majority of the centuries
must vote in favor of conviction in order for the accused to be condemned.
In the case of a trial before the Comitia Centuriata, a "majority" is
defined as "one half of the total number of centuries, plus one, fractions
being rounded down."



a. Even those centuries in which no voters cast votes shall be
counted, as implicit votes for acquittal, toward the total. If a Century
has no members enrolled the election officials are instructed to remove
those centuries from consideration during the vote counting process � Only
centuries with individuals may determine the outcome of a legal proceeding.



K. Votes may be tallied by automated means should the election
officials determine such is preferable to, and at least as accurate as a
manual count.



L. Only the aggregate voters of the centuries shall be delivered to
the presiding magistrate; the votes of individual citizen shall be secret.

THE BREAKING OF TIES

The following are the only three methods to be utilized to determine
the results
of ties. The process to be used will be in numerical order � in other
words no choosing. If a victor is not determined by the method #1 - then
#2 will be used and then #3 until a winner shall be determined. This will
be utilized for both ties in individual centuries and in the sum total of
the Comitia.

1. In case of tied candidates the tie is resolved giving the highest
position to the candidate who has been a citizen of Nova Roma the longest.

2. If the above tie breaking process does not resolve the tie situation
the winning candidate between the tied candidates will be the one with the
most century points.

3. If the above two tie breaking processes fail to break the tie the result
will be determined between the ages of the tied candidates. The oldest
candidate will be declared the winner of the tie.

Addendum: In the event that Nova Roma implements a Cista voting
platform (internally
controlled) and can establish a random tie breaking program that cannot be
tampered with to manipulate the results, (Even the implication of
tampering could damage the credibility of our electoral process and must
be avoided to the extent of our ability to do so. Nothing must infringe
on the integrity of the election.) Such a tie breaking program would need
to be thoroughly tested and endorsed by the Senate of Nova Roma, prior to
being used by the Comitia. Upon this requirement being satisfied the
election officers may use a lot breaking device with the approval and
consent of the Censors The Censors through the certification process must
be confident that the integrity of the tie breaking procedure is both
beyond the bounds of human manipulation and that the will of the People
through the vote is maintained. The entire electoral process must be, and
be seen to be, entirely credible and transparent. Once completed then the
Certification process may progress as written in this Lex.

In addition, the presiding magistrate has the duty and responsibility to
request a member of the College of Pontifices or appropriate Priest to
conduct a ceremonia, at the start of a vote, to address the State�s need to
utilize a method of tie resolution that does not utilize chance and a more
direct form of divine intervention due to the corruption and tampering of
men.

CERTIFICATION PROCESS

The Censors have the responsibility and powers to investigate any
verifiable concern regarding the vote, within the timeframe.

If the censors need additional time, one or both censor�s may seek an
extension of time from the presiding magistrate. The presiding magistrate
has the discretion to approve an extension or not. The Censors
certify the election by sending a notification to the presiding magistrate
that they, �Approve and sign off on the Comitia results.�

If the Censors fail to sign off on the certification process they are required
to explain their rationale to the presiding magistrate. With this
notification the presiding magistrate notifies the Senate. Within 48
hours, the presiding magistrate issues an emergency summons of the
Senate for the sole purpose of addressing this issue and to promulgate a
Senatus Consulta based on the Comitia situation. If the Senate decides to
override the Censors decision the Censors can 1. Certify the election or
2. Refuse to sign. If the Censors choose to refuse to sign, the Senate
certifies the election in place of the Censors. If the Senate determines
that the Censors issues are valid and side with the Censors the results of
the Comitia are null and void. The Presiding magistrate notifies the
People and closes the Comitia and the Comitia will need to be completely
restarted.


If the Censors fail to respond within the 24 hour timeframe, the Censors
are deemed to have consented and the Comitia results can then be posted by
the presiding magistrate.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90455 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
TO
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90456 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
Caninus Quadrae sal.

Leaving aside any technical issues with construction (dative vs
ablative, etc), the Latin expresses an ideal or a condition not yet
fully realized, which is clearly not the case with the suggested English
translation. Magista is swamped with grading. You might try sending a
request for help directly to Lentulus off-list. He is also busy but may
find time help you. Creating a three or four word Latin motto to mtach
your vision or mission statement will probably take more than a couple
of days.

Optime vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!





-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 10:32 pm
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
TMQuadra ATScholastica MPCaninus SPD,

IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO
So then, can the above mean - JUSTICE (for women & men = all) IS NO
LONGER TIED TO MONEY - ?

If not, does it have a meaning?


Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] PANDA



unable to
break now...
emancipate;
conjugated
emancipatest, s/he
verb forms
marker;
feminine
it must
have the
word-classes
would
of
pecuniá.
like ah in
<mailto:caninus%40caninus.co <mailto:remarq777%40yahoo.com <charlesaronowitz@...
<mailto:nova-roma%40yahoogroups.com it.
law
something
<mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com GO TO
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90457 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE
I'm going to go with:

IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE = MONEY WILL NO LONGER INFLUENCE JUSTICE
 
... for now until we can nail it.

Omnibus gratias,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO



 
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90458 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] FINAL DRAFT - Lex Cornelia de Quaestoribus
C. Aemilius Crassus omnibus SPD,

I agree with the good sense of being able to appoint Quaestores to those
positions in the cases where other possibilities aren't available due
lack of volunteers or time. The same way I voted for this measurement in
the Senate as SC I will vote in favor of this proposal and would like to
ask all citizens to also vote in favor of it.

Valete optime.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90459 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] FINAL FINAL Draft
C. Aemilius Crassus omnibus SPD,

I'm convinced this proposal not only allows the regular call of the
Comitia Centuriata without no more need of SCU but also simplifies and
make the process more simple and clear. I think the only point that
isn't of the like of all citizens, including myself, is the question of
cease to decide the tie breaking by lot but the reasons that led to that
decision are to make sure the process isn't abused or perverted once
more. Considering the actual format of the proposal, with the addendum
and a clear and fix tie breaking process I will vote uti rogas for this
law and would like to ask all citizens to vote in favor of it.

Valete optime.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90460 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: PANDA
Salvete!

Emancipandus, -a, -um is the gerundive or future passive participle of the verb emancipo, -are, -avi, -atum. Similarly, that form for amo, amare would be amandus, -a, -um.

A very useful book to have around is 501 Latin Verbs by Prior and Wohlberg. The verbs are fully conjugated and the various forms explained.

This verb was used most often to express the concept of a child being removed from the power and control of a pater familias. In legal documents today we often find the expression "unemancipated minor."

Valete!

Quadratus

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: remarq777@...
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 21:09:43 -0700
Subject: [Nova-Roma] PANDA


























T.M.Quadra M.Caninus salutem plurimam dicit,

It's the "PANDA" part that I don't get. I see the EMANCI part as emancipate; what is PANDA?

Tiberius Marcius Quadra



________________________________

From: M. Pompeius Caninus <caninus@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:24 PM

Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum







Caninus Quadrae SPD.



Perhaps these links will help. You can find emancipanda here:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipandus#Latin



and here:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emancipanda#Latin



Vale bene!



Marcus Pompeius Caninus

America Boreoccidentalis



Vivat Nova Roma!



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Verbatum

From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@...
Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 5:45 pm

To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com


T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus I.Paterculus Salutem plurimam dicit,

I get the Ivstitia & Pecuniae words.



I haven't been able to pinpoint the definition of EMANCIPANDA.



Please define the sentence verbatum:

Latin: IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE



English:



Gratias tibi ago,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra



________________________________

From: Arthur Waite <arthur.f.waite@...
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:09 PM

Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA PECVNIA



Iulius Paterculus T. Marcio Quadrae s.p.d.

I believe "from the money" should be in the Dative case (because it

is the agent of a gerundive). So it would be "IVSTITIA EMANCIPANDA

PECVNIAE".

Hopefully, some third and fourth opinions will be coming in soon.

Vale.



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90461 From: Marcus Prometheus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: Digest Number 6372
Marcus Prometheus omnibus in foro SPD

I think the correct form could be:
*Justitia emancipanda a pecunia *
(pecunia in the ablative case),
but I have never been a great latinist,
so better control also with somebody else.

Also
*Justitia emancipata a pecunia*
could be a good formulation
changing the meaning from
*Justice to be emancipated from money*
to:
*Justice emancipated from money.*
*
*
Bene valete.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90462 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: Digest Number 6372
Salvete!



I think the preposition "a" makes it sound a bit awkward and could just as well be removed without changing the meaning.



Valete!



Quadratus




To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
From: marcusprometheus@...
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:02:31 +0300
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Digest Number 6372





Marcus Prometheus omnibus in foro SPD

I think the correct form could be:
*Justitia emancipanda a pecunia *
(pecunia in the ablative case),
but I have never been a great latinist,
so better control also with somebody else.

Also
*Justitia emancipata a pecunia*
could be a good formulation
changing the meaning from
*Justice to be emancipated from money*
to:
*Justice emancipated from money.*
*
*
Bene valete.

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90463 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: iustitia nobis liberanda est
Caninus Quadrae SPD.

Perhaps a slightly different use of the gerundive would work. You could
use the passive periphrastic to say:

iustitia nobis liberanda est

Justice must be freed (or liberated) by us.

or

iustitia liberanda est

Justice must be liberated.

I am not very proficient in the language but I believe that is correct.

Bene vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!





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Subject: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE
From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 2:11 am
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
I'm going to go with:

IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE = MONEY WILL NO LONGER INFLUENCE JUSTICE

... for now until we can nail it.

Omnibus gratias,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] IVSTITIAO EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAO



LONGER TIED
Justitia
liberata [a]
you like
unable
break
Latin
conjugated
emancipatest,
verb
marker;
a
gerundive, it
must have
word-classes
would
ablative of
nominative:
like ah
<mailto:remarq777%40yahoo.com <mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com it
<charlesaronowitz@...
<mailto:nova-roma%40yahoogroups.com emancipated
correct it.
<mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com i.e.
affordable law
perfect.
<mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com something
Emancipated
<mailto:Nova-Roma%40yahoogroups.com AFFORD TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL.
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90464 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: FILE: Three Choices at Stance
T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus Salutem plurimam dicit,
Gratius tibi ago for the 501 Latin Verbs suggestion.

 
I've filed the current submissions to the motto. I will wait for more suggestions before I try to wrap it up.

For now it is:
IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE = Justice Emancipated from Money

or

COEPI SCHOLA QUIA LEX PLEBE PAUPERUM NON POSSET PRAEBERE LITIGEM DOMUS

= I Started this Law School because Poor People could not Afford to go to Law School
or

PECUNIA IAM NON INFLUENTIAM IUSTITIA = Money will no longer Influence Justice
Videtis,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


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From: "charlesaronowitz@..." <charlesaronowitz@... To: "nova-roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] PANDA

Salvete!

Emancipandus,
-a, -um is the gerundive or future passive participle of the verb
emancipo, -are, -avi, -atum.  Similarly, that form for amo, amare would
be amandus, -a, -um.

A very useful book to have around is 501
Latin Verbs by Prior and Wohlberg.  The verbs are fully conjugated and
the various forms explained.

This verb was used most often to
express the concept of a child being removed from the power and control
of a pater familias.  In legal documents today we often find the
expression "unemancipated minor."

Valete!

Quadratus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90465 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: FILE: Four Choices at Stance
T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus Salutem plurimam dicit,
Gratius tibi ago for the 501 Latin Verbs suggestion.

I've filed the current submissions to the motto. I will wait for more
suggestions before I try to wrap it up.

For now it is:
IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE = Justice Emancipated from Money
or
COEPI SCHOLA QUIA LEX PLEBE PAUPERUM NON POSSET PRAEBERE LITIGEM DOMUS
= I Started this Law School because Poor People could not Afford to go to Law
School
or
PECUNIA IAM NON INFLUENTIAM IUSTITIA = Money will no longer Influence Justice
or
IVSTITIA NOBIS LIBERANDA EST
Justice must be freed (monetarily) by us.
 
Videtis,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
________________________________
From: "charlesaronowitz@..." <charlesaronowitz@... To: "nova-roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] PANDA

Salvete!

Emancipandus,
-a, -um is the gerundive or future passive participle of the verb
emancipo, -are, -avi, -atum.  Similarly, that form for amo, amare would
be amandus, -a, -um.

A very useful book to have around is 501
Latin Verbs by Prior and Wohlberg.  The verbs are fully conjugated and
the various forms explained.

This verb was used most often to
express the concept of a child being removed from the power and control
of a pater familias.  In legal documents today we often find the
expression "unemancipated minor."

Valete!

Quadratus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90466 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: FILE: Four Choices at Stance
Ave Ti. Quadra,
 
I just believe that you need to learn Latin... none of your proposals translates what you first meant. Just the fourth proposal is Latinely correct, but not yours and no translating your first idea. :o)
Why do you break our ears with these evidences of your need to join the courses of a Latin teacher?
 
Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. IX Kalendas Iunias MMDCCLXVI  

________________________________
De : Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... À : "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Vendredi 24 mai 2013 4h06
Objet : [Nova-Roma] FILE: Four Choices at Stance


 

T.M.Quadra C.Quadratus Salutem plurimam dicit,
Gratius tibi ago for the 501 Latin Verbs suggestion.

I've filed the current submissions to the motto. I will wait for more
suggestions before I try to wrap it up.

For now it is:
IVSTITIAE EMANCIPANDA PECUNIAE = Justice Emancipated from Money
or
COEPI SCHOLA QUIA LEX PLEBE PAUPERUM NON POSSET PRAEBERE LITIGEM DOMUS
= I Started this Law School because Poor People could not Afford to go to Law
School
or
PECUNIA IAM NON INFLUENTIAM IUSTITIA = Money will no longer Influence Justice
or
IVSTITIA NOBIS LIBERANDA EST
Justice must be freed (monetarily) by us.
 
Videtis,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
________________________________
From: "mailto:charlesaronowitz%40sympatico.ca" <mailto:charlesaronowitz%40sympatico.ca To: "mailto:nova-roma%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:nova-roma%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] PANDA

Salvete!

Emancipandus,
-a, -um is the gerundive or future passive participle of the verb
emancipo, -are, -avi, -atum.  Similarly, that form for amo, amare would
be amandus, -a, -um.

A very useful book to have around is 501
Latin Verbs by Prior and Wohlberg.  The verbs are fully conjugated and
the various forms explained.

This verb was used most often to
express the concept of a child being removed from the power and control
of a pater familias.  In legal documents today we often find the
expression "unemancipated minor."

Valete!

Quadratus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90467 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-23
Subject: Re: FILE: Three Choices at Stance
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90468 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90469 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave A. Tullia Scholastica;

I am not trying to revive all of NR's yahoo groups, because as you pointed out, some only serve a primarily archival role. Just the few that seem, to me, more beneficial to my Regio and NR at the moment. I have never assumed nor called an inactive group "useless" but instead have sought to reinvigorate them with a sense of purpose. The fact that actions are being taken to rectify this issue proves there is a desire for participation in such groups.

Low membership is not the same as inactivity. The former is more likely to lead to growth and activity than the latter.

Vale!

L. Ulpius Atellus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90470 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave,

If you can, Atellus, could you get me, privately a list of the lists that
you trying to get active. For that matter, if I can get a list of every NR
email list (both official or not) I think we could benefit in creating a
comprehensive list with link for people to subscribe to them on the Wiki.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90471 From: l_ulpius_atellus Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Salve Consul,

I'll try to find the majority of them and get that to you tomorrow.

Vale

Atellus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90472 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Ave,

Thank you very much. We can get them added to the unofficial list and
promote that for new citizens and see if we can help getting some of the
lists active again.

http://novaroma.org/nr/Mailing_lists_(Nova_Roma)

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90473 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
M.Quadra Sulla Atellus Scholastica Salutem plurimam dicit,
The one list

 
 


________________________________
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups


Ave,

Thank you very much.  We can get them added to the unofficial list and
promote that for new citizens and see if we can help getting some of the
lists active again.

http://novaroma.org/nr/Mailing_lists_(Nova_Roma)

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90474 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
not
the
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90475 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-24
Subject: Ave Marte - Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups
Religio should continue. Nova Roma-Amercians have the right to freedom of religion. Add a DONATE tab. The opportunity to give back by volunteer 10% tribute/tithe is important for people, as it is a pressure release valve.


In Christ,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: A. Tullia Scholastica <fororom@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Inactive Yahoo Groups



 
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the
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90476 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: De rogationibus
A. Tullia Scholastica quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

Inasmuch as I have been snowed under and unable to respond to the more
contentious posts here, I shall simply say that both of these rogationes
will deprive the citizenry of some rights, and both should be rejected. We
do need a law which allows us to use the VotingPlace software (or something
similar), but that requirement does not demand a rewrite of the Lex Fabia.
Eventually we may hope that we have our own cista again, but for the time
being we must use VotingPlace. It works well enough, but has to be paid for
every year with big bucks, and does not allow us to do what the cista did,
hold more than one set of elections at a time; normally we have the Comitia
Centuriata and the Comitia Populi Tributa candidate elections at the same
time, but cannot do that with this software.

In recent years we have indeed had to use Senatús Consulta in order to
run the elections, which is hardly a desirable situation. However, that has
often been the case because there was too little time for the contiones and
the actual voting and existing law could not be followed. If we had enough
lead time (and perhaps both types of election officials) such decreta would
almost certainly be unnecessary.

We have here a pig in a poke which nullifies laws left nameless (whereas
in the past, laws a proposal would rescind were fully enumerated) and which
eliminates the work of Fortuna, and another one which would post quaestors
with no experience in the relevant subjects or talent therein in the
censor¹s office and as election officials (both diribitores and custodes,
the latter of whom are not listed as election officials in this proposal).
This does not sound good to me. Those posts are the most demanding in NR,
requiring the most integrity, a quality untested in quaestores.

Judging from what I have seen of responses on this and other topics, it
is quite clear that comprehension of what I have been saying is rather
lacking, so perhaps we will not be fortunate enough to overturn this and get
a more limited law proposed at a later date. I would encourage everyone to
make the effort to do so; however. This law has too many bad provisions for
it to be desirable. As for my previous and present comments, one does not
have to suffer from paranoia or conspiracy theories or what have you to know
what is going on; I don¹t, but my training and my experience provide me with
the armament I need to see the truth. It is an ancient and well-known trick
of politicians to question the sanity and the integrity of an opponent
merely because that person is an opponent, and a trick very definitely
popular in NR.

Valete.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90477 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
C. Aemilius Crassus A. Tulliae Scholasticae Magistrae omnibusque SPD,

I'm sorry to say but I strongly disagree with you and with the arguments
you make here.

Considering first the Quaestor assignment proposal I would like to say
that usually Diribitores were new citizens that run for the office
before candidate to higher offices like Quaestor. So if you think the
Quaestores aren't tested enough to be trusted with those functions I
don't understand how recently new citizens usually without any previous
experience besides being citizens for more than 6 months would made a
difference.

More this is a law that is a safeguard and only has application if, and
only if, the offices are vacant. Due the fact that has been the norm in
recent years this law allows to have a safeguard and quick way to
fulfill those offices that are absolutely essential to the work of NR.

Finally this law proposal is the same it was approved in the Senate with
your vote. You made the following comment with your approval vote for
it: "although I, too, do not like this rule by Senate decrees. A law is
preferable, but for that we must have election officials, and without
this (and the other provisions), we cannot have election officials,
ergo...". I think Consul Sulla agrees with you and instead of keep it
only in the Senate he presented the proposal to the Comitia so future
Consuls facing the same problem have the same tools to solve it.

Considering the Comitia Centuriata procedures I also disagree with you
and with your arguments. We not only need a law the allows using the
votingplace.net and the restrictions that 3rd party platform implies in
the voting process but we also need a law that simplifies the process. I
served as Diribitor and I know exactly how demanding the Comitia
Centuriate procedures were for counting votes and in those time we
usually had easily 4 Diribitores and 2 Custodes elected and even if some
diapered at the time of counting the votes there were enough remaining
to take the task to good port. I had a luck to work with an incredible
team in that year and even so was very hard work. Where was the
complication? In the rounds for eliminating the candidates, breaking
first ties within each century and then looking for the candidate that
have won half plus one voting centuries. Since that usually didn't
happen we had to eliminate on candidate break other ties now created by
that action and so on. This law address that problem, each century votes
for as many candidates as there are vacancies! Only that cuts the great
number of ties and eliminates the rounds. So it is a great advancement
and one I believe to be more close to ancient practice.

Considering the break of ties, that is a smaller part of this proposal,
I too I'm sad to see the breaking of ties not be done by lot for the
same reasons Caeca pointed out. But like Consul Sulla I too am shocked
by the plastic dices affair when the random decision of ties were
perverted and at the moment we can't do nothing to prevent less serious
persons repeat the affair or the random decision of lots aren't so
random at all. So till we can be sure it is real random choice I'm ready
to accept fix and clear set of rule and I can't think none more Roman
than the citizenship length to decide the breaking of ties as first
decision rule.

Considering the repeal of past laws I don't understand your comment
since the two laws that are mentioned in this proposal are directly
named and as it is ancient and modern practice if two laws conflict the
more recent has precedence, so all conflicting past laws are implicitly
amended or rescinded.

Given all I have said above I ask all citizens to vote for the approval
of both proposals.

Valete optime.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90478 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Ave Scholastica,

First, thank you for posting. It was, basically what I expected to see
from you. Glad to see I was not surprised.

Second, you need to square that circle how you had no problem voting for
the SCU in the Senate - let me repeat that an Senatus Consultum Ultimum in
the Senate that you voted for, yet now, the very same law presented to the
People...now you balk? Really?

Oh I am sure you will find a way to shave off some of the edges of that
square, but the glaring inconsistency is always going to be apparent. That
you had no problem voting for an emergency decree in the Senate but now
have some issue when I am trying to give future consuls who run into the
same issue I have the same tools to remedy those issues instead of wasting
time trying to think of new solutions, bog down on bureaucratic details and
have to spend limited time and resources to get the necessary support from
the Senate? Yeah' that is a wonderful use of limited time, effort
draining and resources. I am sure the consuls of the future will thank you
for that.

With regard to the Comitia Centuriata, Nova Roma has about 70 tax paying
citizens, to date,, and I think my response on the Back alley as applicable
of a response here: we [Nova Roma] shouldn't need such a cumbersome vote
counting system that would require "practical application to understand
them." Not when their are simpler and easier understandable
methods available This has always been the problem with all of Caeso
Fabius's laws....overly bureaucratic, overly complicated. We tried that
route, it does not work. Now we go back to basics."

This has been my policy from the day I donned the Toga to run for the
Consulship. Bringing Nova Roma back to the basics. Nova Roma does not
need an overly bureaucratic system that requires the elimination of
candidates - prior to the election being called! Nor can Nova Roma afford
the utilization of random chance when it has been utterly corrupted and the
manipulations of men are passed off as the Will of Fortuna. If you wish
that - please join the Sertorian Organization (if they will have you), they
are experts at that. As for Nova Roma we value and hold dear the integrity
of our elections and abide the will of the people no matter if we win or
lose.

Respectfully,

Sulla



On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:42 AM, A. Tullia Scholastica <
fororom@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90479 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Ave,

I just want everyone to click this link:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Session_January_2766

And read her comment:


- ATS UTI ROGAS - although I, too, do not like this rule by Senate
decrees.* A law is preferable*, but for that we must have election
officials, and without this (and the other provisions), we cannot have
election officials, ergo...


I followed her comment a law IS preferable.

Square this circle for me Scholastica. Why are you against the law when in
January you were in favor of having the law go before the People?

Vale,

Sulla


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:42 AM, A. Tullia Scholastica <
fororom@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90480 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Salvete Omnes,

Sulla, I believe you know deep down inside why Senator Scholastica is now
opposed to these proposed Lexes.

They were crafted by **you**.. I do believe the Senator was honest when
she posted she preferred a Law than an SCU. Just not one written by an
opponent if that makes any sense.

Going with an example (and example only mind you) if someone else was the
Consul say C. Petronius Dexter. If he were in your toga and proposing such
Lexes, I believe the Canary would be singing a different song.

Valete bene,
Aeternia





On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Robert Woolwine
<robert.woolwine@...
--
"De mortuis nil nisi bonum"


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90481 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Vote and voter codes
Avete Omnes,

Later this evening the vote opens for the Comitia Centuriata. Voter codes
have been sent to the email addresses listed in the Album Civium.

Please check your emails to make sure you received your voter code. Also,
make sure to check your SPAM folder as well.

The subject of the email should read: Nova Roma Invitation to Vote.

If you have any questions, please contact either Pontiff Quintus Caecilius
Metellus. He will ensure that you get a voter code as quickly as possible.

I would like to thank Metellus for his diligent effort in updating the new
file to voting place and ensuring that this vote runs as smoothly as
possible.

Respectfully,


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90482 From: Jean-François Arnoud Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
 
C. Petronius Aeterniae salutem,
 
I just come to the Forum and I read your mail with a smile.
Why do you give my name to illustrate your example?
Do you have me in your dreams?
For me, I would not propose such laws because the existing laws about elections are good enough, the problem is not about the current laws. By those proposition of laws it is asked to adopt the death of our cista. I consider that as an evidence of facility. It was certainly more interesting to restore the cista program than to change our voting process with less possibilities.
In case of magistracy positions not completely filled the current laws allow the Senate to appoint vacant seats, a new law is not necessary.
 
Now as I voted it in January, I was alone against the SCU, I said that I preferred about election processes a vote before the Comitia, so because laws are proposed before the Comitia, I will vote according to my conscience, as I always do.
 
Optime vale.

C. Petronius Dexter
Arcoiali scribebat
a. d. VII Kalendas Iunias MMDCCLXVI 


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De : Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@... À : nova-roma <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Samedi 25 mai 2013 19h16
Objet : Re: [Nova-Roma] De rogationibus


 

Salvete Omnes,

Sulla, I believe you know deep down inside why Senator Scholastica is now
opposed to these proposed Lexes.

They were crafted by **you**.. I do believe the Senator was honest when
she posted she preferred a Law than an SCU. Just not one written by an
opponent if that makes any sense.

Going with an example (and example only mind you) if someone else was the
Consul say C. Petronius Dexter. If he were in your toga and proposing such
Lexes, I believe the Canary would be singing a different song.

Valete bene,
Aeternia

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Robert Woolwine
<mailto:robert.woolwine%40gmail.com
--
"De mortuis nil nisi bonum"

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90483 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Ave,

Dexter you are an idiot and here is the reason why.

The current Lex Fabia does not work - it requires us to use the SCU because
we do not have an CISTA. Remember this is the same SCU promulgated under
the Consulship of Cato and Venator too.

Yet you say, correctly that you voted against the SCU because the current
law, Lex Fabis is good enough. Thusly you think the SCU is not needed

So, in other words you dont want to be able to summon the Comitia at all?
Because that is the only remaining choice. You want me to be consul next
year too? Your colleague in the CP, Fabius, already thinks im a dictator.
;) Is this what you want? Because it certainly is not what I want. This
is why I spent over a month and a half writing this law. I think Nova Roma
deserves elections that are transparent and objective. This law will give
that to Nova Roma no matter what your conscious tells you.

Respectfully,

Sulla




On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Jean-François Arnoud
<jfarnoud94@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90484 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-05-25
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia C. Petronio Dextro Omnibusque S.P.D.

Ah there you are Dexter...

No I do not dream of you be rest assured and put your mind at ease :-).

I used you as an example only and I mean that quite literally. I have
observed in the Senate that you and the Magistra vote very similar. Also
she speaks very highly of you, so I used you as an example as to the
difference of how Scholastica would vote if a friend were proposing a Lex
versus a foe. I hope that explains my example more clearly.

Valete bene,
Aeternia


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Jean-François Arnoud
<jfarnoud94@...
--
"De mortuis nil nisi bonum"


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90485 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
more
paid
to
that
it
rather
to
me
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90486 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
Sta.Cornelia Aeternia A. Tulliae Scholasticae S.P.D.

Please see comments below.



SCA: Rather doubt it. How about no one dreaming of Dexter or anyone?
That's a scary concept and honestly it creeps me out.

SCA: I have to remind myself that we are dealing with Literalist 1 & 2. I
cannot even use examples anymore without a drawn-out conspiracy added with
it. There are plenty of examples I could use to point that out. However I
will definitely refrain with good reason.



SCA: Yes I am aware the two of you have met in person. Hence why I said
"spoke highly of" it seems your meetings were most pleasant. We all know
of Avitus, dear Magistra although I have never met the man I feel as if I
know him most well thanks to your descriptions. Will have to let Avitus
know someday if I ever get to see him post on the Latnitas list.

SCA: Scholastica do you think that Sulla is pleased with the revisions he
has had to make in order to possibly get this Lex passed? No one gets what
they want all the time, that's one of the basic tenements of life in
general. In other words we don't always get what we want sometimes we have
to excercise compromise.

SCA: I did receive your correspondence and it was my opinion not a
*misconception*. How about we not travel down that road regarding personal
communications, you seem to have a magnet for trouble when it comes to such
things. Lets just walk away from that shark tank.

Aeternia


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90487 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum - Discussion
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Cornelio S.D.

Catching up a bit, now that I have a few minutes in between exam
corrections.

ATS: I am aware that he is part of your staff.

ATS: I am glad that you realize that, although some of your remarks
directed at him were so vicious and hateful that I find it difficult to
reconcile that with any positive comments regarding this fine young man, who
indeed is deeply devoted to improving NR.

ATS: I suspect that many of the newer citizens have not the slightest
inkling of this, or the reasons for it.

ATS: Oh, I get it just fine.
ATS: Under the rules, senators absent for X period of time could be
removed. You were absent. We followed the rules. Several others are
absent; where is Cato? Where are some of the others? A lack of interest
may be inferred from such long term absences...barring death of the internet
or its connection chez the relevant parties. Do we need a truant officer?

ATS: He has his own problems, as I am sure you are aware. Remember
that he would not let me attend a meeting at our small conventus because I
wasn't RR? In spite of the fact that I was the only member of the Senate
present?
ATS: Oh, I wouldn't say that.
ATS: I am not ruled by conspiracy theories. Please refrain from
projecting such things onto me. You have never met me (and never will); you
cannot ascertain my nature or much else via the net.

ATS: Again, more incorrect inferences.
ATS: Yes, but when people receive the sort of comments Petronius did
from you today, one might be able to understand why that sort of
rapprochement is more than a little difficult. I also seem to recall that
you used the b word on me, which is not the path to reconciliation or
respect for womanhood.

ATS: Nonsense.
ATS: I don't think so, but then certain parties have not acquired their
reputations in vain.

ATS: Here the mountain-molehill factory is at work again. I did not
pollute anyone, and moreover this whole episode involved one individual
whose arms were twisted until he sent private correspondence to you. He was
then rewarded by being put on a separate list where he could see the posts
to the Senate. A brand-new citizen was given access to the Senate for
violating the moral law and all standards of decency! Perhaps you are
unable to see that not all in NR is perfect, and that certain attitudes and
behaviors of some individuals (and that, too, of your own political
philosophy) are inappropriate. Things are not perfect at West Point,
either, or at various other colleges, universities, academies, the military
as a whole, or what have you. Some of us can see these things; but that is
not the case with everyone.

As for the Senate, if you asked it to pass a consultum stating that the
moon was made of green cheese imported from the Andromeda Galaxy and that
it, like the earth, was flat, you could probably get it to pass. Ditto if
you wrote one stating that the sun orbited the flat earth, which had been
created in 6000 BCE. Petronius and I would probably vote against it, but
likely it would pass, perhaps unanimously except for the votes of us two
independents. Of course I would hope that such nonsense would not pass our
Senate, but then the senators do vote alike on virtually everything.



ATS: In your opinion.

ATS: I am not crazy. I can see some things you cannot. Does that make
someone crazy? Nope.

Are you perhaps confusing me with Cornelius Felix or Gangalius or even
Hortensia? The latter has an affective disorder, or so it seems. She is
not alone.



Vale.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90488 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Ratione Comitiorum Centuriatorum - Discussion
Ave,


ATS: I am not crazy. I can see some things you cannot. Does that make
someone crazy? Nope.

Sulla: That depends....Are they real and tangible? I know that everything
I am using to fix Nova Roma are lessons I am trying to make sure are NEVER
REPEATED again, ie plastic die. What about you?


Are you perhaps confusing me with Cornelius Felix or Gangalius or even
Hortensia? The latter has an affective disorder, or so it seems. She is
not alone.

Sulla: Felix had mental issues and was dyslexic which made his problems
more pronounced in this environment. I know my spelling and grammar are
not the best (though I write like I talk - I type slower than I think so my
mind tends to see words that I thought I typed but have not - it is really
annoying at times), but you mix in his issues with Dyslexia and clearly an
internet organization that relies on typing as a primary means of
communication would be like someone who speaks English as a 2nd or 3rd
language. Though if you spoke to him on the phone he was able to carry on
a coherent conversation with no difficulty at all. Kinda like Dexter
trying to type in English without having the services of Iulia Aquilia to
review his posts before they get sent.

I am not aware of any issues with Gangalius, though I have not spoken to
him in over 11 years - during the dictatorship of Flavius Vedius

And we are all aware of the various possibilities with Hortensia...the list
of possible things wrong with her are still multiple pages long depending
on who you ask.

Vale,

Sulla


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fororom@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90489 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Voting is open
Avete Omnes,

We all should have been given our voter codes and the reminder with the
link to vote.

Voting is now open for the Comitia Centuriata.

Thank you for your vote and participation.

Respectfully,

Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90490 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Vote ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open
T.M.Quadra Sulla Avete Omnes,

I've checked the Nova Roma website to learn about the vote option; there seems to be none.

Can you briefly explain what each vote option entails?

Gratias tibi ago,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra


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From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:45 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open



 
Avete Omnes,

We all should have been given our voter codes and the reminder with the
link to vote.

Voting is now open for the Comitia Centuriata.

Thank you for your vote and participation.

Respectfully,

Sulla

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90491 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: De rogationibus
C. Aemilius Crassus C. Petronio Dextro omnibusque SPD,

The actual electoral laws force us to use our internal Cista that isn't
function and we can control and that is the reason since Albucius
Consulship we have need a SCU to overrule the legal demands we can't
practically fulfill imposed by the those electoral laws. It is more
interesting to restore the cista program or make a new one but as you
know, being a member of the Senate, that is not on the immediate future.
More this proposal doesn't give up of having an internal cista for
elections but it free us of the demand of one and in this way the need
of SCU. More we have great incentive to restore the cista, to save the
expense of paying votingplace services or similar.

Also the actual Comitia Centuriata procedures weren't good as you said,
they were overcomplicated even when NR had much more active citizens
that we have now. For the sake of clarity the changes this proposal
presents are:

- We aren't any longer closed lock to an internal cista.
- Each Century votes for as many candidates as there are vacancies for
that position and in this way eliminates much of the ties and of the
rounds and overcomplicated process.
- Defines how the elections are certificate by the Censores, involving
the Senate in case of conflict.
- Defines how ties are broke by a set of fix rules and possible of
verification by any citizen.

So exactly on the above are you opposing? Till know I only saw questions
concerning the break of ties and to that I have answered my opinion that
I'm too sad to see the tie breaking cease to be by lot but since I can't
suggest any method to keep it that is not only verifiable by all parts
and also above all suspicions I'm willing to replace it by a fix process
that any citizen can verify it was correctly done. As soon as there is a
possibility to get a safe and above suspicions random method I will
gladly support it without any reservation.

To the other four point this proposal changes in the actual procedures
I'm convince they are indeed needed changes and an advance in clarity
and transparency in our electoral procedures in the most important of
our Comitia. If you don't think so I would like to hear the reasons why
so we can debate the actual proposal and not generic statements.

In the magistracy positions proposal the current law allows the Senate
to appoint vacant seats what this law makes possible is in case of
lacking volunteers or time to call a Senate meeting to appoint vacant
seats the Consuls can Quaestores for the immediately needing positions.

Valete optime.


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90492 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Re: Vote ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open
Ave

Did you get an email with your voter code?

Like I described in an earlier email entitled nova roma invitation to vote?

Respectully

Sulla

Sent from my Kindle Fire



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From: Robin Marquardt <remarq777@... Sent: Sun May 26 02:39:49 MST 2013
To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vote ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open




T.M.Quadra Sulla Avete Omnes,

I've checked the Nova Roma website to learn about the vote option; there seems to be none.

Can you briefly explain what each vote option entails?

Gratias tibi ago,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra

________________________________
From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:45 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Voting is open



Avete Omnes,

We all should have been given our voter codes and the reminder with the
link to vote.

Voting is now open for the Comitia Centuriata.

Thank you for your vote and participation.

Respectfully,

Sulla

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90493 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2013-05-26
Subject: Welcome to new members
Salvete omnes!

I am very pleased to welcome new members to this list. In particular I welcome our newest citizen Appius Rubellius Calidus.

We are always keen to greet new citizens, so please tell us a bit about yourself, where in the world you hail from, what spurred your interest in Roman matters, and what you hope to gain by being a citizen of our Republic and a member of this list.

We want to help you make the most of your membership, and help you to learn more about Rome and about Romanitas - what it means to be Roman and live your life according to Roman virtues. So please tell us what you are interested in, what you would like to know more about, and what you would like us to explain for you. There are many paths here, and they will all lead you to greater light and understanding, so let us help you as your guide.

We hope to hear from you soon, and we also hope that you will spend many happy years among us.

Valete omnes!
Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90494 From: Anders Ehrnborn Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Thank you for the welcome!

I became a citizen years ago, but it never took off. I live in Sweden and
is an editor of military history, so there is one of my interests. Since
I´m also a linguist I have an interest in Latin. I hope to gain a lot of
new knowledge and also meet interesting people.

regards
Appius Rubellius Calidus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90495 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: QUA - Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Welcome to new members
M.Quadra A.Calidus Salutem plurimam dicit,
Welcome back Appius Rubellius Calidus to Nova Roma!


 Wohin gest du; wohin? Ich geh me mir ost nach west! (by Rammstein - Mein Land).

I'm learning Latin. I've been learning Italian. I knew eventually I'd learn German, but never thought it would be through song.

 
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


________________________________
From: Anders Ehrnborn <anders.ehrnborn@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 7:14 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Welcome to new members



 
Thank you for the welcome!

I became a citizen years ago, but it never took off. I live in Sweden and
is an editor of military history, so there is one of my interests. Since
I´m also a linguist I have an interest in Latin. I hope to gain a lot of
new knowledge and also meet interesting people.

regards
Appius Rubellius Calidus

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90496 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: Voting in the Comitia Centuriata
C. Aemilius Crassus omnibus SPD,

I would like to remember all citizens that the voting on the two law
proposals is happening in the Comitia Centuriata.

This one of the differences between modern nations and ancient Rome and
Nova Roma. Every citizen is called to vote on the laws and not only on the
magistrates.

I would like to ask all citizens to perform their duty and right and vote
on these elections.

Valete optime,
Crassus


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90497 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-27
Subject: Please don't forget to vote!
Omnibus in foro S. P. D.

Now that the holiday we are celebrating in the US is coming to an end, I'd
like to remind everyone to vote in the Comitia Centuriata. This is your
most powerful tool, and we have the very unique privilege to vote not just
in magisterial elections, but in the passing of laws that will become part
of the Government of Nova Roma. If you have read these laws and approve,
say so by voting for them. If you don't approve of them, say so by voting.


Citizens here have very few duties, but voting, which is the most direct and
powerful form of participation we have, is one of those duties, and it is
crucial, if you want your voices to be heard. Voting Place makes it so easy
that it took me longer to select and copy my voter ID than it did to
complete the entire voting process, so I urge you to decide that the Res
Publica is worth the 5 minutes (or less) that casting your votes will
require.

Valete Bene!
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90498 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
T.M.Quadra C.Caeca Omnibusque in foro salutem plurimam dicit,
What is the vote for; for what purpose? 

Gratias tibi ago,

Tiberius Marcius Quadra


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From: cmc <c.mariacaeca@... To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!



 
Omnibus in foro S. P. D.

Now that the holiday we are celebrating in the US is coming to an end, I'd
like to remind everyone to vote in the Comitia Centuriata. This is your
most powerful tool, and we have the very unique privilege to vote not just
in magisterial elections, but in the passing of laws that will become part
of the Government of Nova Roma. If you have read these laws and approve,
say so by voting for them. If you don't approve of them, say so by voting.

Citizens here have very few duties, but voting, which is the most direct and
powerful form of participation we have, is one of those duties, and it is
crucial, if you want your voices to be heard. Voting Place makes it so easy
that it took me longer to select and copy my voter ID than it did to
complete the entire voting process, so I urge you to decide that the Res
Publica is worth the 5 minutes (or less) that casting your votes will
require.

Valete Bene!
C. Maria Caeca




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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90499 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Ave,

Uh, you have been posting messages on the ML all while the Contio has been
ongoing. Have you been reading the messages?

There are two laws being discussed and voted on. I would respectfully
suggest you review the thread and discussion on the Archives of Nova Roma
email list. These two laws have been discussed and the focus of email
debate for the past 3 weeks on this very list.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90500 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Salve!



This vote is to approve or disapprove the enactment of the 2 laws we have
been discussing, on this list, for the past several days.



Vale,

C. Maria Caeca



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90501 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Ave,
My apologies; I don't read every email thoroughly - I get about 50 emails per day.

 
I'd appreciate if someone could reply with the jest of the two laws under vote.

Tiberius Marcius Quadra


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From: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... To: "Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!


Ave,

Uh,  you have been posting messages on the ML all while the Contio has been
ongoing.  Have you been reading the messages?

There are two laws being discussed and voted on.  I would respectfully
suggest you review the thread and discussion on the Archives of Nova Roma
email list.  These two laws have been discussed and the focus of email
debate for the past 3 weeks on this very list.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90502 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Ave,

There are two laws up for vote.

The first is establishing new procedures, because the old ones do not work,
that allow presiding magistrates to summon the Comitia Centuriata to
convene without needing to have a Senatus Consultum Ultimum in place as we
have needed for the past 3 years.
The Second law allows the Consul to place Quaestors to do specific tasks
like election positions that might be vacant and need to be filled in an
emergency.

That's it. Later this week the Comitia Populi Tributa will be summoned.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90503 From: C. Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: Re: ?? - Re: [Nova-Roma] Please don't forget to vote!
Salve Quadra,

You can see the full text of the laws being voted at:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_Quaestoribus_(Nova_Roma)
<http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_Quaestoribus_%28Nova_Roma%29
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_Ratione_Comitiorum_Centuriatorum_(Nova_Roma)
<http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_Ratione_Comitiorum_Centuriatorum_%28Nova_Roma%29
You should have received a voter code by email and you can vote your
approval or disapproval on these proposals at:

https://votingplace.net/novaromacista

Vale optime,
Crassus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90504 From: SP Robinson Date: 2013-05-28
Subject: A new poem...
Salve et salvete;

I've been writing again after a bit of a drought, even experimenting a
little with styles I've not used much before.

Following in the vein of a never-ending haiku in which I participate
at a Taoist forum where the last line of one becomes the first line of
the next, with my own thought of beginning becomes end.

Sated - 26 May 2013

Hungry eyes watching
Eating in appearances
Fueling desire

Fueling desire
Unrequited and distant
Heartache walks away

Heartache walks away
Seeking to find another
Perhaps, love will come

Perhaps love will come
The search may be long and hard
The end is worthy

The end is worthy
For wealth is fullness of heart
Without any want

Without any want
We will never see again
Hungry eyes watching

--
Vale et valete
P Ullerius Stephanus Venator Piperbarbus Poetus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90505 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-05-30
Subject: The Eagle has landed!
Salvete Romans,

In collaboration with Senator Marcus Audens I would like to announce the
return of the Official Nova Roman Newsletter, AQULIA/ EAGLE as an online blog.

In addition to reposting articles from past newsletters we will be posting new material as well.

http://novaromaeagle.blogspot.com/

Postings will be made numerous time over the year as we have material to post.
If any one would like to submit an article or other material that would be most welcome.

Our first post is now available.

Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus

PS

Would one of the Wiki editors please place this link on the front page of the NR Wiki.
Please include a little fanfare with it as well. Thanks





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90506 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-30
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] The Eagle has landed!
Avete Omnes,

Congrats on bringing the Aquila back! I remember back in the day when it
was a paper publication. May this resurrection be permanent! :)

Respectfully,

Sulla


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spqr753@...
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90507 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-05-30
Subject: Gadget called Greek and Roman Mythology
Salvete

I have a question.

I can add a gadget to the Eagle blog called Greek and Roman Mythology

it will "show random piece of information about Greek and Roman Mythology; includes Greek Gods, Roman Gods, famous places, creatures, characters in Greek and Roman Mythology"

I do not want to insult anybody by the use of the word

mythology.

Should I add it?

Valete

Paulinus



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90508 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: VOTING PERIOD IS CLOSED
Avete Omnes,

The Vote is now closed as of about an hour ago.

Thank you everyone who took the time to participate in the first vote (for
non-magistrates) in a very long time.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90509 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: R: [Nova-Roma] Re: [BackAlley] The Eagle has landed!
Cn. Lentulus Ti. Paulino SPD

That is great news, congratulations to Paulinus and Audens.

Valete!

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Da: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... Oggetto: [Nova-Roma] Re: [BackAlley] The Eagle has landed!
A:
Cc: "nova-roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com Data: Giovedì 30 maggio 2013, 17:37

Avete Omnes,

Congrats on bringing the Aquila back!  I remember back in the day when it
was a paper publication.  May this resurrection be permanent! :)

Respectfully,

Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90510 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: The Eagle has landed!
SALVE ET SALVETE!

Congratulations to you both Tiberi Galeri and Marce Minuci!

VALE ET VALETE,
Sabinus
 
"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius


________________________________
From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@... To: BackAlley <backalley@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:06 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] The Eagle has landed!



 
Salvete Romans,

In collaboration with Senator Marcus Audens I would like to announce the
return of the Official Nova Roman Newsletter, AQULIA/ EAGLE as an online blog.

In addition to reposting articles from past newsletters we will be posting new material as well.

http://novaromaeagle.blogspot.com/

Postings will be made numerous time over the year as we have material to post.
If any one would like to submit an article or other material that would be most welcome.

Our first post is now available.

Valete

Ti. Galerius Paulinus

PS

Would one of the Wiki editors please place this link on the front page of the NR Wiki.
Please include a little fanfare with it as well. Thanks





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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90511 From: HappyCheonsa Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: The Eagle has landed!
This is great! Congrats on getting the newsletter back up and running.

L. Maria Silvana

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90512 From: HappyCheonsa Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Hello everyone.

I'm also new here. I joined because I have an interest in Rome and the Latin language. I'm interested in Ancient Rome because it was an exciting period of history. I also have Italian heritage so anything regarding Rome or Italy interests me. My family immigrated to the USA generations ago. I currently live in the New England area. I have a general interest in languages so it is only natural that I have an interest in Latin too, no? My other hobbies are art and reading.

Nice to meet everyone.
Lucia Maria Silvana

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90513 From: cmc Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
C. Maria Caeca L. Mariae Silvanae S. P. D.



What a joy to welcome another Maria to our community! Since we share the
same Gens (Maria) we are, in Nova Roma, kin, and so I greet you, with open
arms! I hope that you will find much of interest and value here, and that
you will stay with us for a very, very long time! As to your interest in
Latin, I'm sure that will be addressed very soon (grin). Needless to say,
you are always welcome to contact me privately if I can be of any help to
you, here!



Vale quam optime!

C. Maria Caeca



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90514 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
Ave!

Yes, welcome to Nova Roma and a great gens you joined :) Many wonderful
people have been in the Gens Maria. :)

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90515 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: 2013 Annual Report
Avete Omnes,

Today, I filed Nova Roma's annual report with the State of Maine. This is
a yearly document that ensures our compliance and contact information in
case the State of Maine needs to contact any of the Officers or members of
the Board.

As noted on the Maine Website the corporation is in Good Standing.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90516 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Report for Senate session closed on 18 May 2013
Marcus Pompeius Caninus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 22 May 2013 - a.d. xi Kal. Junias
MMDCCLXVI A.U.C.



09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 10-May-2013 : Call to order. Debate period
commences.
09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 14-May-2013 : Debate period ends.
09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 15-May-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period
commences.
09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 17-May-2013 : Voting period ends.
11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 18-May-2013 : Call to close issued before this
time.


Quorum was achieved.


The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
tallied as shown below.


The following 11 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in
time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in
alphabetical order by nomen:

CAC C. Aemilius Crassus

LCSF L. Cornelius Sulla Felix

SCVJA Sta. Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia

QFM Q Fabius Maximus

CnIC Cn. Iulius Caesar

TIS T. Iulius Sabinus

MMA M. Minucius Audens

CPD C. Petronius Dexter

QSP Q. Suetonius Paulinus

ATS A. Tullia Scholastica

CVA C. Vipsanius Agrippa




The following 9 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a
vote or did not cast a vote on time:

MCGG M. Cornelius Gualterus Graecus

MCJ M. Cassius Julianus

CEC C. Equitius Cato

LECA L. Equitius Cincinnatus Augur

DeIPI De. Iunius Palladius Invictus

TiGP Ti. Galerius Paulinus

CPL C. Popillius Laenas

CTVG C. Tullius Valerianus Germanicus

PUSV P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator



In the voting results shown below "UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor
of an item, "ANTIQUO" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open
abstention.




_______

Item 1: Legion Sponsorship:

Tabled and referred to the Sodalitas Militarium for recommendation.
Should be presented in June Senate summons - along with a Senatus
Consulta on Legion Sponsorship Guidelines.



_______



Item II - Sodalitas Geographia:

Tabled and referred to Senator Audens to create an email list and to
draft the proposal for the creation of the Sodalitas.



_______



Item III - Discussion and approval of Service Mark:

Yes: 11
No: 0
Abstain: 0



*CAC: UTI ROGAS
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA: UTI ROGAS
*QFM: UTI ROGAS
*CnIC: UTI ROGAS
*TIS: UTI ROGAS
*MMA: UTI ROGAS
*CPD: UTI ROGAS
*QSP: UTI ROGAS
*ATS: UTI ROGAS (not that I see much choice in this). Let us hope that
we have no more such surprises.
*CVA: UTI ROGAS



_______

Item IV - Update on IRS Audit and Website migration:

No Vote

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Item V - Discussion on Close of the Tax period:

No Vote

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Item VI - Senatus Consulta on the CP:

Tabled pending further action from within the College - Possible revisit
in future Senate Summons.







Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis



Marcus Pompeius Caninus
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90517 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Report for Senate session closed on 28 Feb 2013
Marcus Pompeius Caninus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 02 March 2013 – a.d. VI Non. Mar.
MMDCCLXVI a.u.c.
 
09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 18-FEB-2013 : Call to order. Debate period
commences.
09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 24-FEB-2013 : Debate period ends.
09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 25-FEB-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period
commences.
09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 27-FEB-2013 : Voting period ends.
11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 28-FEB-2013 : Call to close issued before this
time.

Quorum was achieved, There was one announced absence.

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
tallied as shown below.

The following 13 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in
time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in
alphabetical order by nomen:
MCJ M. Cassius Julianus
LCSF L. Cornelius Sulla Felix
SCVJA Sta. Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia
QFM Q Fabius Maximus
CnIC Cn. Iulius Caesar
TIS T. Iulius Sabinus
MMA M. Minucius Audens
CPD C. Petronius Dexter
QSP Q. Suetonius Paulinus
ATS A. Tullia Scholastica
CTVG C. Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
PUSV P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator
CVA C. Vipsanius Agrippa
 
The following senator announced his absence and provided for the use of
his proxy in the hands of Cn. Iulius Caesar:
TiGP Ti. Galerius Paulinus

The following senator was present and participated in the session but
was unable to vote:
CAC C. Aemilius Crassus
 
The following 5 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a
vote or did not cast a vote on time and absence was not announced or
justified in line with the current Senatus Consultum:
CEC C. Equitius Cato
CPL C. Popillius Laenas
DeIPI De. Iunius Palladius Invictus
LECA L. Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
MCGG M. Cornelius Gualterus Graecus

Therefore, the necessary majority for a Senatus Consultum was 8 votes in
favor.
"UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO" is a vote
against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open abstention.

_______
Item I - Appointing and reappointing Governors for the Year:
 
*CAC: Although I was not able to cast my vote in time I would like to
state that I support and thank all that present themselves to serve as
governor of the Nova Roma provinces.
 
*LCSF: Item I: I want to sincerely thank Praetor Crassus for his
assistance in completing this task. His assistance and his dedication
was invaluable!

*SCVJA: Item I: In regards to my own provincia American
Austroccdentalis, I am hoping the incoming Governor will be lots more
active than the previous Governor. Also thank you to Praetor Crassus for
assisting the Consul in this task.
 
*CnIC: Item I: I want to sincerely thank Praetor Crassus for his
assistance in completing this task. His assistance and his dedication
was invaluable!
 
*MMA: I wish to add to this vote my congratulations to all those whose
efforts has brought before the Senate this vote. My deepest
appreciations, and a traditional "Well Done" I believe is quite
appropriate!
 
*TiGP: Item I: I want to sincerely thank Praetor Crassus for his
assistance in completing this task. His assistance and his dedication
was invaluable!
 
*ATS: Item I: as I am unable to open the attachment, I must wing it here
using Crassus’ attachment: uti rogas for most; abstineo for California
and both Canadian provinces. Possibly Citerior could find someone who
actually lives there; Western Canada is big enough to manage as is.
 
_______

Item I.A - Gaius Tullius Valerianus Germanicus as governor of America
austroccidentalis:

Voting results for Item I.A:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.B - Marcus Pompeius Caninus as governor of America
boreoccidentalis:

Voting results for Item I.B:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.C - Gaius Pompeius Marcellus as governor of America
medioccidentalis superior:

Voting results for Item I.C:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.D - Vibia Aemilia Regilla as governor of Argentina:

Voting results for Item I.D:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.E - Vibia Aemilia Regilla as governor of Brasilia:

Voting results for Item I.E:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.F - Gaius Marcius Crispus as governor of Britannia:

Voting results for Item I.F:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.G - Quintus Fabius Maximus as governor of California:

Voting results for Item I.G:
YES: 13 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 1 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS ABSTINEO
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.H - Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as governor of Canada Citerior:

Voting results for Item I.H:
YES: 13 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 1 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS ABSTINEO
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.I - Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as governor of Canada Ulterior:

Voting results for Item I.I:
YES: 13 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 1 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS ABSTINEO
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.J - Titus Iulius Sabinus as governor of Dacia:

Voting results for Item I.J:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.K - Gaius Petronius Dexter as governor of Gallia:

Voting results for Item I.K:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.L - Gaius Petronius Dexter as governor of Germania:

Voting results for Item I.L:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.M - Gaius Marcius Crispus as governor of Hibernia:

Voting results for Item I.M:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.N - Gaius Aemilius Crassus as governor of Hispania:

Voting results for Item I.N:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
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Item I.O - Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus as governor of Italia:

Voting results for Item I.O:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.P - Tiberius Galerius Paulinus as governor of Lacus Magni:

Voting results for Item I.P:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.Q - Tiberius Galerius Paulinus as governor of Mediatlantica:

Voting results for Item I.Q:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.R - Marcus Cassius Iulianus as governor of Nova Britannia
Citerior:

Voting results for Item I.R:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.S - Aulus Iulius Paterculus as governor of Nova Britannia
Ulterior:

Voting results for Item I.S:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.T - Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus as governor of Pannonia:

Voting results for Item I.T:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.U - Titus Flavius Severus as governor of Sarmatia:

Voting results for Item I.U:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item I.V - Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus as governor of Venedia:

Voting results for Item I.V:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

The following provinces have no governor:

America austrorientalis
Australia
Guria
Nipponia
Nova Hispania
Thule
 
 
 
_______

Item II - Senatus Consulta on Nova Roma's Domain Registration/WHOIS
Information:

Introduction:
This is to serve as a means that more than one person is listed in
contact information in regards to the Ownership of the Nova Roma domain
and to set up procedure for the yearly update of such information. This
will serve the interest that there is not one person on file in control
of the Nova Roma Domain. Also, in the event that one individual
disappears or leaves the organization that the organization is not in
any way hampered to make approproiate changes nor is the organization
held hostage. The Senate of Nova Roma owns the Nova Roma Domain, but it
is in the capacity that individuals are set apart as representatives who
act in the interest of the organization without affecting the overall
ownership of novaroma.org or subsequent websites/domains by Nova Roma
Inc. This process only identifies the individuals who will serve as
representatives.

WHOIS lists three individual contact areas:
Registrant
Administrative
Technical

For the Registrant field the Senior Consul, or any person he/she
delegates this function to should be listed as the primary contact
field. This must be updated on March 1st.

For the Administrative Field the Princep Senatus or any person he/she
delegates this function to should be listed as the primary contact
field. This information must be updated on March 1st.
For the Technical field the primary IT individual, or any person he/she
delegates this function to, should be listed as the primary contact.
This information must be updated on March 1st.

Each individual will be given access to the Nova Roma domain including
the username and password to make necessary changes to the Domain
account. The Senate may review any changes to Nova Roma's domain in its
capacity as ownership of the Domain. Any individual who exceeds the
scope of this Senatus Consulta may be held fully culpable under both
Nova Roma law and macronational law.

Voting results for Item II:
YES: 14 NO: 0 ABSTAIN: 0 ITEM PASSED
*MCJ UTI ROGAS
*LCSF UTI ROGAS
*SCVJA UTI ROGAS
*QFM UTI ROGAS
*TiGP UTI ROGAS
*CnIC UTI ROGAS
*TIS UTI ROGAS
*MMA UTI ROGAS
*CPD UTI ROGAS
*QSP UTI ROGAS
*ATS UTI ROGAS
*CTVG UTI ROGAS
*PUSV UTI ROGAS - I see this as an important step towards corporate and
cultural safeguards.
*CVA UTI ROGAS
 
_______

Item III - Discussion on IRS Audit:
No Vote
_______

Item IV - Discussion on Website/transfer and testing of new features:
No Vote
_______

Item V - Discussion on Comitia:
No Vote
_______

Item VI - Discussion on Recommendations:
No Vote
 
 


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 90518 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-05-31
Subject: Re: Welcome to new members
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