Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Nov 1-27, 2013

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91812 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Office Requirements
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91813 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Plebeian election news
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91814 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] RE: [Nova-Roma] REWARD POSTED
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91815 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Re: Map Making Skills needed
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91816 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Re: Map Making Skills needed
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91817 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: CHANGES TO PROVINCIAL PAGES
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91818 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Tribune Report on Senate Session Ending 25 Oct 2013
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91819 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91820 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: 15th Anniversary - Sacred Year of Concordia - Kalends Ritual
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91821 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91822 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91823 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91824 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91825 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91826 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91827 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91828 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91829 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91830 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91831 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91832 From: Scipio Second Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91833 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91834 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91835 From: Charlie Collins Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91836 From: Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91837 From: qfabiusmaximus Date: 2013-11-03
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91838 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-03
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91839 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-03
Subject: FW: [Explorator] explorator 16.29
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91840 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-04
Subject: REMINDER: Call for candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91841 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2013-11-05
Subject: The CP is called in session.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91842 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-05
Subject: Re: The CP is called in session.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91843 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-06
Subject: Curule Aedile
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91844 From: Charlie Collins Date: 2013-11-06
Subject: Chariot Game for Android Phones and Tablets
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91845 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-06
Subject: Re: Chariot Game for Android Phones and Tablets
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91846 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-09
Subject: Reminder - Plebeian elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91847 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Free Nova Roma tax payments for a few plebeian citizens
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91848 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every Roman
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91849 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: OT: remembrance
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91850 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Reminder - Plebeian elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91851 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: OT: remembrance
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91852 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every R
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91853 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every R
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91854 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every R
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91855 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: [SodalitasMilitarium] Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definit
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91856 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: [SodalitasMilitarium] Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definit
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91857 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-12
Subject: Plebeian election - Comitia to be summoned on Friday
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91858 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-13
Subject: Candidates for Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91859 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-14
Subject: Candidates for Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91860 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Official Summons of the Comitia Plebis Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91861 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91862 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Nova Roma website unreachable
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91863 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: Nova Roma website unreachable
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91864 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: Nova Roma website unreachable
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91865 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91866 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: [Nova_roma_] RE: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma website unreachable
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91867 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Call for Candidates - LAST DAY
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91868 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Update on candidates for plebeian offices
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91869 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Call for Candidates is CLOSED
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91870 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Ti. Galerius Paulinus for Tribuni Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91871 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Candidate Annoucements
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91872 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: (no subject)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91873 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91874 From: miguelkelly15 Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91875 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91876 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91877 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91878 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Laterensis for Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91879 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Candidate for Censor - Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91880 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91881 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Plebeian Elections - Final List of Candidates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91882 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91883 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: M Pompeius Caninus - Candidate for Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91884 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: M Pompeius Caninus - Candidate for Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91885 From: scipiosecond Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus - Candidacy for Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91886 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: L Vitellius Triarius - Candidate for Aedilis curulis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91887 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91888 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91889 From: lvtriarius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91890 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91891 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91892 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Why do we need a new law for plebeian office requirements?
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91893 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Omen of Co-Existence
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91894 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91895 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91896 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91897 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91898 From: Gaius Tullius Valerianus Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91899 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-19
Subject: Plebeian Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91900 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2013-11-19
Subject: Write-in Candidacy: Q Caecilius Metellus for Tribune of the Plebs
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91901 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-19
Subject: Election Update
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91902 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Plebeian Elections - Contio Closed
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91903 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Plebeian Elections - Voting Procedure
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91904 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Vote Now - Comitia Plebis Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91905 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: A Citizen's Guide to Nova Roma Elections
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91906 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Vote Now - Comitia Plebis Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91907 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Cista Problem
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91908 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91909 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91910 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91911 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91912 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91913 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Official Summons of the Comitia Populi Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91914 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91915 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: DISCUSSION THREAD: Name Pending, but this is the ordo equaester lex
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91916 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Corrected: Official Summons of the Comitia Populi Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91917 From: jirirys Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91918 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] DISCUSSION THREAD: Name Pending, but this is the ord
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91919 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] DISCUSSION THREAD: Name Pending, but this is the ord
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91920 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Vote Now - Comitia Plebis Tributa
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91921 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Plebeians --- Please Vote
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91922 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91923 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Welcome back Pompeia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91924 From: pompeia_minucia_tiberia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Welcome back Pompeia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91925 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91926 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91927 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Welcome back Pompeia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91928 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Candidate for Consul- Statia Cornelia Aeternia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91929 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Candidate for Consul- Statia Cornelia Aeternia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91930 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Candidate for Consul- Statia Cornelia Aeternia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91931 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Questions for quaestores candidates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91932 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Questions for quaestores candidates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91933 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-24
Subject: FW: [Explorator] explorator 16.31-32
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91934 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91935 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Candidate for Consul - C. Aemilius Crassus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91936 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Update on the Schedule of the Comitia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91937 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Thanks/Honorific
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91938 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91939 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Thanks/Honorific
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91940 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91941 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91942 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91943 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91944 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91945 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91946 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91947 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91948 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91949 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91950 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Open fo
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91951 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Open fo
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91952 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91953 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91954 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91955 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91956 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91957 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91958 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ord
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91959 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91960 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91961 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Tax Payers
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91962 From: Belle Morte Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Tax Payers
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91963 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: The Senate of Nova Roma is now in session
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91964 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91965 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91966 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91967 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Questions for quaestores candidates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91968 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91969 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91970 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91971 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Questions for quaestores candidates.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91972 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91973 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91974 From: qfabiusmaximus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91975 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91976 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91977 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91978 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Final draft with the changes added - Lex Cornelia Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91979 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Busy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91980 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91981 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91982 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91983 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91984 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91985 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91986 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91987 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91812 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Office Requirements
Avete Omnes,

If you are contemplating running for a specific office and wish to know what the requirements are for each office please look at this lex that spells out the requirements for each office:


This is what I will be checking to ensure each candidate meets the qualifications for the office.

Most Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91813 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Plebeian election news
Attention all plebeian citizens:

It is now the time for each of us to consider contributing to the well
being of Nova Roma through public service. Soon we will gather to elect
five new Plebeian Tribunes and two new Plebeian Aediles to advance and
protect our interests. The Comitia Plebis Tributa will be summoned for
this election in late November, most likely at the same time as the
Comitia Populi Tributa is summoned. The new Tribunes will take office on
December 10th. Please note that we will also vote on a revised law
spelling out the requirements for candidates seeking to run for these
offices in future years.

Between now and 11:59 pm Rome time on November 15th I will be compiling
a list of candidates and verifying that those who express interest meet
the requirements to assume office. If you are interested in becoming
either a Plebeian Tribune or a Plebeian Aedile, please send a private
message to caninus@... with following information:

Your Nova Roman name
Your age
The office you intend to run for.

At about 1:00 pm Rome time on November 16th I will announce the final
list of eligible candidates.

The requirements and duties for the 5 Tribunes and 2 Aediles are:

Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at
least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian
order, assidui, and at least 21 years of age by the date of taking
office.

Constitution of Nova Roma Section IV(A)
5. Aediles plebis (Plebeian Aedile). Two plebeian aediles shall be
elected by the comitia plebis tributa to serve a term lasting one year.
They must both be of the plebeian order and shall have the following
honors, powers, and obligations:
a. To issue those edicta (edicts) necessary to see to the conduct of
public games and other festivals and gatherings, to ensure order at
public religious events, to see to the maintenance of any real public
facilities that the State should acquire, and to administer the law
(such edicts being binding upon themselves as well as others);
b. To pronounce intercessio against another plebeian aedile or
magistrate of lesser authority;
c. To appoint scribae (clerks) to assist with administrative and other
tasks, as they shall see fit.

Read the Lex Arminia de officiis aedilium plebis
(http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Arminia_de_officiis_aedilium_plebis_(Nova_Roma))
for more information on the responsibilities of the Plebeian Aediles.

Candidates for tribunus plebis must be citizens in good standing, for at
least six full months before taking office, of the plebeian order,
assidui, and at least 25 years of age by the date of taking office.

Constitution of Nova Roma Section IV(A)
7. Tribuni Plebis (Tribune of the Plebs). Five tribunes of the plebs
shall be elected by the comitia plebis tributa to serve a term lasting
one year. They must all be of the plebeian order, and shall have the
following honors, powers, and obligations:
a. To pronounce intercessio (intercession; a veto) against the actions
of any other magistrate (with the exception of the dictator and the
interrex), Senatus consulta, magisterial edicta, religious decreta, and
leges passed by the comitia when the spirit and / or letter of this
Constitution or legally-enacted edicta or decreta, Senatus Consulta or
leges are being violated thereby; once a pronouncement of intercessio
has been made, the other Tribunes may, at their discretion, state either
their support for or their disagreement with that intercessio.
1. Each Tribune may issue only one such declaration of support or
disagreement, but may change their declaration from one to the other,
should they wish to do so.
2. The initial pronouncement of intercessio by a Tribune shall count as
that Tribune's declaration of agreement.
3. Should the number or the Tribunes who choose to disagree with an
intercessio equal or exceed the number of Tribunes who choose to support
it, the intercessio shall be revoked.
a Intercessio may not be imposed against statements of support for or
disagreement with a use of intercessio that are issued pursuant to the
preceding paragraph.
b The issuance and function of intercessio shall be defined according to
procedures described by legislation passed by Comitia.
b. To pronounce intercessio (intercession; a veto) against another
Tribune using the same mechanism as described in paragraph IV. A. 7. a.
above;
c. To be immune from intercessio pronounced by other magistrates, except
as described in paragraphs IV. A. 7 .a. and IV. A. 7. b. above;
d. To be privy to the debates of the Senate, and keep the citizens
informed as to the subjects and results thereof, in such manner and
subject to such restrictions as may be defined by law;
1 To call the Senate to order;
2. To call the comitia plebis tributa to order, except when the
Patrician order shall constitute more than ten percent (10%) of the
total population, in which case the power shall be altered to calling
the comitia populi tributa to order;
3. To administer the law;
4. To appoint scribae (clerks) to assist with administrative and other
tasks, as they shall see fit.

There is a handbook for Plebeian Tribunes with much more information.
Contact me at caninus@... if you want a PDF copy of the Handbook.


Respectfully,

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91814 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] RE: [Nova-Roma] REWARD POSTED
Triarius Canino sal.
 
Here ya go! One case of premium Falernian! Excellent work in tracking yourself down and dragging yourself into the Forum to bring the people news and collect your reward! LOL!!!
 
Optime vale,

L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provinciæ America Austrorientalis


"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91815 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Re: Map Making Skills needed
Salve Consul!
 
Okay...pulling out the Vitellian Traders Ltd, maps now.
 
(Servius, oh Servius, bring me the cartography kit...)
 
Vale,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provinciæ America Austrorientalis


"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca


On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:19 PM, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...  
Ave Triarius,

First, Congrats on your senate seat!

Secondly,  What I am looking for is a new map that will spell out the new provinces that have just been created by the successful promulgation of the provincial reform in the last senate session.

I would like the map to be uploaded to this page link:  http://novaroma.org/nr/Provincia_(Nova_Roma)

Also we need to adjust the current serving governors to their new appropriate jurisdictions.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91816 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Re: Map Making Skills needed
Ave!

Awesome!

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91817 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: CHANGES TO PROVINCIAL PAGES
Salvete omnes,
 
Due to recent changes in the North American provinces and the merging of Hibernia with Britannia, the provincial web pages and maps on the wiki are changing.
 
I will be making these format changes over the weekend.
 
Please DO NOT update the US provinces pages during this time.  For the provinces that are breaking up, I will be moving those page sets to a Previous Provinces section, so that the information will be preserved. Some of these provinces are being reduced in size and some are being completely replaced with new provinces.
 
Hopefully, everything will be recoded by the first of the week.
 
Thanks for your patience and understanding as we improve our online presence.
 
Optime valete,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provincia Confinium Austrorientalis
Senator of Nova Roma


"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91818 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Tribune Report on Senate Session Ending 25 Oct 2013
Marcus Pompeius Caninus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 31 October 2013 - prid. Kal. Nov.
MMDCCLXVI A.U.C.



PRESIDING MAGISTRATE:
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, Consul


SCHEDULE:
09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 11-OCT-2013 : Call to order. Debate period
commences.
09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 16-OCT-2013 : Debate period ends.
09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 17-OCT-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period
commences.
09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 23-OCT-2013 : Voting period ends.
11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 24-OCT-2013 : Call to close issued before this
time.


AGENDA:
I. Website Migration Update (Debate)
II. Appointment of Governor of America Austrorientalis Lucius Vitellius
Triarius (Debate and Vote)
III. Approval of the Constitutional Change for the Ordo Equester (2/3
Majority needed)
IV. Provincial Reform
V. Provinces of Activity for Next Year's Consuls


QUORUM:
Decius Iunius Palladius is on leave - his proxy is assigned to Lucius
Cornelius Sulla Felix.
Quorum was achieved.


The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
tallied as shown below.


The following 14 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in
time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in
alphabetical order by nomen:

CAC C. Aemilius Crassus
LCSF L. Cornelius Sulla Felix
MCGG M. Cornelius Gualterus Graecus
SCVJA Sta. Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia
TiGP Ti. Galerius Paulinus
CnIC Cn. Iulius Caesar
DeIPI De. Iunius Palladius Invictus
TIS T. Iulius Sabinus
MMA M. Minucius Audens
CMC C. Marcius Crispus
QSP Q. Suetonius Paulinus
CTVG C. Tullius Valerianus Germanicus
PUSV P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator
CVA C. Vipsanius Agrippa


The following 3 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a
vote or did not cast a vote on time:

MCJ M. Cassius Julianus
LECA L. Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
CPD C. Petronius Dexter



In the voting results shown below "UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor
of an item, "ANTIQUO" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open
abstention.


_______

Item II: Appointment of Governor of America Austrorientalis Lucius
Vitellius Triarius

It is my pleasure to recommend Lucius Vitellius Triarius as Governor of
SE Provincia. He meets all the legal qualifications per the Lex
Cornelia de Cursus Honorum.

Yes: 14
No: 0
Abstain: 0
PASSED

*CAC Uti Rogas - I'm very pleased to vote in favor of Triarius
appointment as Governor and I'm sure he will excel in those functions.
*SCVJA Uti Rogas
*MCGG Uti Rogas
*LCSF Uti Rogas
*QFM Uti Rogas
*TGP Uti Rogas
*CnIC Uti Rogas
*TIS Uti Rogas
*DeIPI Uti Rogas
*CMC Uti Rogas
*QSP Uti Rogas
*CTVG Uti Rogas
*PUSV Uti Rogas
*CVA Uti Rogas


_______



Item III: Approval of the Constitutional Change for the Ordo Equester
(2/3 Majority needed)

Carry over from the last session, as it almost passed -it just needed 1
additional vote.

Constitutional Change of the Ordo Equester Section of the Constitution
Section II.C.2:

Ordo Equester (Equestrian Order) the Equestrian Order shall consist of
high standing citizens who excel in their service to the Res Publica.
Equestrians shall be enrolled into the Ordo Equester as specified by
laws approved by the Comitia.

Yes: 14
No: 0
Abstain: 0
PASSED

*CAC Uti Rogas - This is a needed reform and hopefully the starting
point to have a functional market bringing more revenues to Nova Roma.
*SCVJA Uti Rogas
*MCGG Uti Rogas
*LCSF Uti Rogas
*QFM Uti Rogas
*TGP Uti Rogas
*CnIC Uti Rogas
*TIS Uti Rogas
*DeIPI Uti Rogas
*CMC Uti Rogas
*QSP Uti Rogas
*CTVG Uti Rogas
*PUSV Uti Rogas
*CVA Uti Rogas



_______

Item IV: Provincial Reform

Introduction: One of the major areas of direct impact that Nova Roma
has with its citizens is through the provincial interaction. After
speaking with many citizens over the course of the past year and years
past it is become clear that there needs to be a way to promote more
provincial activity within the organization. We, the Senate of Nova
Roma appoint governors to serve over very large areas (especially in
North America) and over the course of 15 years of existence it is clear
that very few governors leave their actual state to give the same time
and attention to the development of other regions under their
jurisdiction. Basically, governors are really only able to focus on
their direct location and the more outlying areas tend to be given less
importance. How many governors, has nova roma had over the past 15
years has been able to give the same level of dedication and service to
their outlying provinces as much as those areas that they reside in?
And, how many governors, both current and past, have been able to visit
every single state under their jurisdiction over the course of a single
year? I believe that answer is none. The easiest way to solve this
issue is the make the size of provinces more manageable (and smaller).
Create more provinces, appoint more governors and thusly more areas will
be able to be developed by active members of the community.

The senate still retains control and authority by appointing and
reappointing governors who, we think, do a great job and can replace
those who do not meet our expectations. But the clear benefit is to
have more direct and positive impact by active individuals. More
individuals can mean more innovation in thought, actions and activity
that can benefit the Central Organization in growth, participation and
activity.

Below is the new provincial make up (if adopted by the Senate of Nova
Roma)

I. Hibernia (Ireland) - Ceases to exist - becomes incorporated to
Britannia

II. America Austrioccidentalis is broken up into the following:
A. Arizona, Nevada, Utah - Merdies Occident Desertum (South West
Desert)
B. New Mexico and Colorado - Merdies Orientalis Desertum
C. Texas and Oklahoma - Texas

III. America Austrorientalis will be broken into:
A. Arkansas and Louisiana - Gallia Minor
B. Mississippi and Alabama - Mississippi
C. Tennessee and Kentucky - Confinium austrorientalis
D. Florida and Georgia - Austrorientalis Stagnum
E. North and South Carolina - Carolinias

IV. America Boreoccidentalis will be broken into:
A. Alaska and Hawaii - America Boreoccidentalis Inferior
B. Idaho Oregon and Washington State - America Boreoccidentalis
Superior

V. California will be broken into:
A. California Superior (North of Paso Robles and Delano)
B. California Inferior (California South of Paso Robles and Delano)

VI. Lacus Magni will be broken into:
A. Wisconsin and Michigan - Lacus Magni
B. Illinois and Indiana - Lacus Magni Inferior
C. Ohio - Coenagrionidae

VII. Mediatlantica will be broken into:
A. New York and New Jersey - Novum Eboracensis
B. Pennsylvania and Delaware - Mediatlantica
C. Maryland and DC - Regio Columbia
D. Virginia and West Virginia - Will be called Virginia


Yes: 12
No: 2
Abstain: 0
PASSED

*CAC Uti Rogas - I don't know personally the situation on many of
those provinces but this proposal reform intends to make more personal
involvement of the Governors with the citizens in which Province,
something I can only approve.
*SCVJA Uti Rogas
*MCGG Uti Rogas
*LCSF Uti Rogas
*QFM Uti Rogas
*TGP Uti Rogas
*CnIC Uti Rogas
*TIS Uti Rogas
*DeIPI Uti Rogas
*CMC Uti Rogas
*QSP Uti Rogas
*CTVG Antiquo
*PVSV Uti Rogas
*CVA Antiquo



_______

Item V: Provinces of Activity for Next Year's Consuls

As required, it is the task of the Senate to appoint provinces of
activity for next year’s consuls.

Each consul shall be required to meet this obligation over the course of
their next year.

The two provinces of activity for next year:

1. One consul will need to make contact with all citizens who are not
tax payers. Make contact and try to find ways and solutions to increase
the number of tax payers.

2. Work with the CFO to find creative ways to sell products and to find
ways to increase revenue in NR.

Yes: 14
No: 0
Abstain: 0
PASSED

*CAC Uti Rogas - The proposed activities for next year are sound and
needed actions and at the same time not restrictive of next year Consuls
own proposals.
*SCVJA Uti Rogas
*MCGG Uti Rogas
*LCSF Uti Rogas
*QFM Uti Rogas
*TGP Uti Rogas
*CnIC Uti Rogas
*TIS Uti Rogas
*DeIPI Uti Rogas
*CMC Uti Rogas
*QSP Uti Rogas
*CTVG Uti Rogas
*PUSV Uti Rogas
*CVA Uti Rogas

==End of Report==


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91819 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-01
Subject: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Salvete omnes,
 
OATH OF OFFICE – Governor of Confinium austrorientalis
I, LVCIVS VITELLIVS TRIARIVS (James Frank Hatcher III), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, LVCIVS VITELLIVS TRIARIVS (James Frank Hatcher III), swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, LVCIVS VITELLIVS TRIARIVS (James Frank Hatcher III), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, LVCIVS VITELLIVS TRIARIVS (James Frank Hatcher III), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, LVCIVS VITELLIVS TRIARIVS (James Frank Hatcher III), further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Legatus pro praetor for Provincia Confinium austrorientalis to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Legatus pro praetor for Provincia Confinium austrorientalis and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Optime valete,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provinciæ America Austrorientalis

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91820 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: 15th Anniversary - Sacred Year of Concordia - Kalends Ritual
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus pontifex, sacerdos Concordiae: consuli, praetori, tribunis plebis, collegio pontificum, senatui populoque Novo Romano: salutem plurimam dicit:

Salvete, Quirites!

It is this day again, the Kalends, when we celebrate our 15th Anniversary, the Sacred Year of Concord. On the Kalends of October, it is time to offer the Kalens ritual to Concordia according to my vow for this Sacred Year of Concord and 15th Anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma. At the beginning of the Sacred 15th Anniversary Year, I vowed to honor Concordia on each Kalends for our unity, strength and growth.

Please, magistrates and citizens, join in my prayer, repeat it in your homes and pray for the New Roman nation, for the Nova Romans. Let's strive for the most genuine and authentic reconstruction of Roman customs, society, religion and law: completing the goals of our founders.

People and Magistartes of Nova Roma: Pray to Concordia to create unity and growth, to help us to fulfill our final goal: the Roman resurrection.

This has been the Kalends Ritual to Concordia for our Sacred Year of Concordia, Quindecennalia (15th Anniversary year):

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SACRIFICIVM CONCORDIAE KALENDIS OCTOBRIBVS ANNO XV NOVAE ROMAE CONDITAE

Favete linguis!

(Beginning of the sacrifice.)

1. PRAEFATIO

Dea Concordia,
hisce Kalendis Novembribus anni quinti decimi Novae Romae conditae
te hoc ture commovendo bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitia Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, nobis quaestoribus,
Collegio Pontificum,
mihi, domo, familiae!

[Goddess Concordia,
on these Kalends of November of the Fifteenth Anniversary Year of the founding of Nova Roma,
by offering you this incense, I pray good prayers so
that you may be benevolent and propitious
to the Nova Roman People of the Quirites,
to the Republic of the Nova Roman People of the Quirites,
to the magistrates, tu us, quaestors,
to the College of Pontiffs,
to me, to my household and to my family.]

(Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.)

Dea Concordia,
Dea pacis et fortitudinis Senatus Populique Novi Romani Quiritium,
uti te ture commovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo macte lacte inferio esto!"

[Goddess Concordia,
Goddess of peace and strength of the Nova Roman Senate and People of the Quirites,
as by offering you the incense I have well prayed good prayers,
for the very same reason be thou blessed by this sacrificial milk.]


(Libation of milk is made.)

2. PRECATIO

Dea Concordia,
hisce Kalendis
Novembribus anni quinti decimi Novae Romae conditae
te precor, veneror, quaesoque obtestorque:
uti pacem concordiamque et iustitiam constantem societati Novae Romae tribuas;
utique Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium confirmes, augeas, adiuves,
omnibusque discordiis liberes;
utique Res Publica Populi Novi Romani Quiritium semper floreat;
atque hoc anno anniversarii quinti decimi Novae Romae conditae convalescat;
atque pax et concordia, salus et gloria Novae Romae omni tempore crescat,
utique omnes qui se Romanos nominant unifices,
unum populum unamque gentem omnes qui se Romanos nominant facias,
unum populum in Nova Roma omnes Romanos hodiernos colligas;
utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae
omnes in hoc anno sexto decimo Novae Romae conditae eventus bonos faustosque esse siris;
utique sies volens propitia
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus, quaestoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
Collegio Pontificum,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulieribus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

[Goddess Concordia,
on these Kalends of
November of the Fifteenth Anniversary Year of the founding of Nova Roma,
I pray, worship, ask and beseech you so
that you may grant peace and steadfast concord to the society of Nova Roma;
so that you may confirm, strengthen and help
the Republic of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
and save it from all discord;
so that the Republic of the Nova Roman People of Quirites
may always flourish and prosper,
and in this year of the 15th Anniversary may get even stronger;
that peace and concord, the welfare and glory of Nova Roma may increase all the time;
and that you may unite all people who call themselves Roman,
make them who call themselves Roman one people and one nation,
collect together all modern Romans as one nation united into Nova Roma;
and that you allow all events in this 16th Year of Nova Roma to be good and salutary
to the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the Republic of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to me, to my household and to my family;
and so that you may be benevolent and propitious
to the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the Republic of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the magistrates, consuls, the praetors, the quaestors of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the tribunes of the Nova Roman Plebs,
to the Nova Roman Senate,
to the College of Pontiffs,
to all Nova Roman citizens, men and women, boys and girls,
to me, to my household and to my family.]

3. SACRIFICIUM

Sicut verba nuncupavi,
quaeque ita faxis,
uti ego me sentio dicere:
harum rerum ergo macte,
hoc lacte melle mixto libando,
hoc ture ommovendo
esto fito volens propitia
et hoc anno anniversarii quinti decimi Novae Romae conditae et semper
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus, quaestoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebis Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
Collegio Pontificum,
omnibus civibus, viris et mulierbus, pueris et puellabus Novis Romanis,
mihi, domo, familiae!

[As I have these words pronounced,
you shall do exactly
what I mean I am saying:
for all these reasons, thou blessed
by offering this milk with honey,
by offering this incense
be benevolent and propitious
both in this year of the 15th Anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma and always,
to the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the Republic of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the magistrates, the consuls, the praetors, the quaestors of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
to the tribunes of the Nova Roman Plebs,
to the Nova Roman Senate,
to the College of Pontiffs,
to all Nova Roman citizens, men and women, boys and girls,
to me, to my household and to my family.]


(Libation of milk with honey is made and incense is
sacrificed.)

Ilicet!

(End of the sacrifice.)

5. PIACULUM

Concordia Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Omnes Di Immortales quocumque nomine:
si quidquam vobis in hac caerimonia displicet,
hoc lacte inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio.

[Concordia of the Nova Roman People of Quirites,
All Gods Immortal by whathever name I may call you:
if anything in this ceremony was displeasing to you,
with this sacrificial milk I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.]

(I offered incense on the altar and poured a libation of wine on the altar.)


Valete!

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus,
Q U A E S T O R
P O N T I F E X
SACERDOS CONCORDIAE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91821 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Vitellio Triario S.P.D. 

Governor of WHAT?  Confinium (neuter) austrorientalis (masculine / feminine)?  Were Gualterus and Valerianus asleep at the switch when that (and these other ridiculous names) were dredged up?  The adjectives don't agree in gender with the nouns, and some of the nouns (including this one) are ridiculous.  Common boundary SE?  Really, now… your ordinary Latin (Greek, German, Sanskrit, Russian…) noun is, as I tell my Grammatica I students, a magnetically attractive creature, which insists that all of its modifying adjectives be in the same case, number, and gender.  I am quite certain that Gualterus and Valerianus are aware of this grammatical rule (which works in Greek and German and Sanskrit, and a bunch of other languages, too).  At least one overcommitted member of the consular cohors is also aware of this.  All of them should be.  

Any Latinist seeing this sort of thing will get a good belly laugh, that is fo' sho'. 
Eheu!  NR gives itself another round of shiners!  Oy vey!  

Vale!  Hope you can find this SE common boundary…are you good at orienteering? 

BTW, I didn't think governors had to take the oath…


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91822 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Ave Scholastica,
 
I didn't come up with the names...I'm just the wiki programmer...LOL
 
Yes, Govs are "oathables"
 
Vale,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provinciæ America Austrorientalis


"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca


On Saturday, November 2, 2013 1:54 AM, A. Tullia Scholastica <flavia@...  
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Vitellio Triario S.P.D. 

Governor of WHAT?  Confinium (neuter) austrorientalis (masculine / feminine)?  Were Gualterus and Valerianus asleep at the switch when that (and these other ridiculous names) were dredged up?  The adjectives don't agree in gender with the nouns, and some of the nouns (including this one) are ridiculous.  Common boundary SE?  Really, now… your ordinary Latin (Greek, German, Sanskrit, Russian…) noun is, as I tell my Grammatica I students, a magnetically attractive creature, which insists that all of its modifying adjectives be in the same case, number, and gender.  I am quite certain that Gualterus and Valerianus are aware of this grammatical rule (which works in Greek and German and Sanskrit, and a bunch of other languages, too).  At least one overcommitted member of the consular cohors is also aware of this.  All of them should be.  

Any Latinist seeing this sort of thing will get a good belly laugh, that is fo' sho'. 
Eheu!  NR gives itself another round of shiners!  Oy vey!  

Vale!  Hope you can find this SE common boundary…are you good at orienteering? 

BTW, I didn't think governors had to take the oath…


On Nov 1, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Lucius Vitellius <lvtriarius@...


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91823 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Ave,

No one gave me any help on the naming.  And no one in the senate made any comment on the namings of the provinces.  I did the best I could.  The result that I wanted was met.  The establishment of smaller provinces.

If anyone has better naming suggestion for the newly established provinces - I'm open for suggestions.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91824 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Salvete,

Correction there Sulla.  I did during the session before voting gently suggest that a Latinist that was still in the Senate should look over the names.  The names did seem a little off.  But Sulla is also very correct not one Latinist in the Senate said a word.

Valete bene,
Aeternia


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91825 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Ave Aeternia,

Yes but your problem was with the naming of New York/New Jersey province in particular because we discussed that very issue on your way to work.  That name is probably the most correct name out of the lot. :)  

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91826 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Salvete,

That is also very true as well.  Instead of discussing the semantics of who said what, when, where, and how.

Could we have a Latinist of surpassed knowledge and skill maybe take a look at these names of the new provinces?

Its still early enough to make changes.

Valete bene,
Aeternia 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91827 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Avete!
 
It's always nice to know these Latin issues BEFORE creating 20+ new province pages on the wiki...LOL!
 
Maybe, we should just write the NR Dictionary of Latin Slang.
 
Why is it that every time this is an issue, the Latinists remain quiet...all the while knowing that the verbage is wrong...then after it is done, there is this outpouring of criticism because things are spelled wrong?
 
IF YOU THINK THIS MAKES YOU LOOK SMART AND INTELLIGENT AS A LATINIST, IT DOES NOT.  This is unnecessary drama and B.S., and makes you look incompetent.  Do you know the correct Latin, or do you look it up after the verbage is announced and then make the "obvious and apparent" discovery of bad grammar?
 
The attitude by some that, if you are not fluent in conversational Latin, then you are somehow less of a person or stupid or ignorant or whatever needs to also cease. We are all here to learn.  The same prevailing attitude occurs both with the Latin Language and the cultus deorum.  If you do not have the patience to be a teacher of your particular discipline, then you need to find something else to do or stay in your make-believe hole of knowledge.
 
As Thumper said in the Bambi movie, "If you can't say nothin' good, don't say nothin' at all."
 
People come hear to learn, and no one here is dumb enough to believe that anyone grew up in a household and community that spoke Latin as the primary language or a family and community that observed strict household and public rites to the deities of ancient Rome.
 
Geeezzzzz!
 
We have a cart load of knew provinces with Governors and officer positions to fill.  How about we concentrate on that for a little while. 
 
We have elections coming up that need to be successful. How about we concentrate on that for a little while.
 
We have a serious need from an organizational perspective to provide a credible and worthwhile experience for new and older cives alike within the Res publica through interesting activities, events, holidays, games, projects and conventus functions (local/provincial/national/international).  How about we concentrate on that for a little while.
 
We need to get back to having intelligible content on the lists, ALL of them, instead of kindergarten romper room spats over ignorant, stupid issues.  If you see a problem, fix it or let someone know about it, so they can.  How about we concentrate on that for a little while.
 
Maybe, we should fire all the Latinists and start from scratch by recruiting outside the organization or outsourcing things like Latin province names. I'm sure there is a Classics grad student out there somewhere that would like to be on call for translations for pay.
 
Vale.
 
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provincia Confinium austrorientalis

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca


On Saturday, November 2, 2013 12:11 PM, Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...  
Salvete,

Correction there Sulla.  I did during the session before voting gently suggest that a Latinist that was still in the Senate should look over the names.  The names did seem a little off.  But Sulla is also very correct not one Latinist in the Senate said a word.

Valete bene,
Aeternia


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Robert <robert.woolwine@...



--
"De mortuis nil nisi bonum"


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91828 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
Salve Triarius,

Did you ask anyone before you made anything?

Vale bene,
Aeternia


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91829 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: Oath of Office - L. Vitellius Triarius
The Consul asked me to redo the provinces page.
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS
Civis Novæ Romæ
Provincia Confinium austrorientalis

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu."
(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live)
~ L. Annaeus Seneca


On Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:20 PM, Belle Morte Statia <syrenslullaby@...  
Salve Triarius,

Did you ask anyone before you made anything?

Vale bene,
Aeternia


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Lucius Vitellius <lvtriarius@...



--
"De mortuis nil nisi bonum"


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91830 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: de nominibus provinciarum
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Vitellio Triario Statiae Corneliae Aeterniae L. Cornelio Sullae quiritibusque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

Triari, I know that you did not come up with these names, and apparently have been stuck with a difficult job which will require a major do-over.  Indeed it would have been nice for these names to have been submitted for verification before you worked with them.  For the uninitiated, there is a group called the Sodalitas Latinitatis which can do this in the absence (or, for that matter, the presence) of senatorial Latinists.  Someone could have sent a message with these proposed names to Lentulus or me…or the Sodalitas.  

I am going to try to paste a list of these names below, and will provide a minimal grammatical fix.  At this point, with exams impending in all three courses I am teaching and working my way through back homework assignments after a major computer failure, I cannot do much more.  

===========


I. Hibernia (Ireland) - Ceases to exist - becomes incorporated to
Britannia

ATS:  No problem here, not to mention that this makes good sense.  

II. America Austrioccidentalis is broken up into the following:

ATS:  Austro[o]cidentalis, minus one of those i's. 

A. Arizona, Nevada, Utah - Merdies Occident Desertum (South West
Desert)

ATS:  Meridies means south; it has an i in the middle.  It is a noun; here we need an adjective.  Unfortunately Latin does not have a word for southeast or southwest; it uses a phrase for both.  Deserta (neuter plural) or solitudo (feminine singular) are used for 'desert.'  Maybe Deserta Australia Occidentalia, or Solitudo Australia Occidentalis.  Or try another name.  

B. New Mexico and Colorado - Merdies Orientalis Desertum

Again, Deserta Orientalia or Solitudo Orientalis.

C. Texas and Oklahoma - Texas 

III. America Austrorientalis will be broken into:
A. Arkansas and Louisiana - Gallia Minor

ATS:  Um, maybe Gallia Nova?  

B. Mississippi and Alabama - Mississippi

This should be Latinized somehow…

C. Tennessee and Kentucky - Confinium austrorientalis

ATS:  Confinium means a shared boundary. This noun does not work here.  To make the adjective agree, it would have to be austrorientale, neuter.  Major fix needed, however.  Maybe Terra Equorum / Equina?  

D. Florida and Georgia - Austrorientalis Stagnum

ATS:  Stagnum means a pond or swamp.  Not exactly complimentary.  The adjective would also have to go into the neuter:  stagnum austrorientale.  Maybe 'Terra Musci Hispanici,' land of Spanish moss, or 'Terra Gossypi,' land of cotton.  Latin nouns precede their adjectives. 

E. North and South Carolina - Carolinias

ATS:  Caroliniae.  Very easy fix. They are plural.  

IV. America Boreoccidentalis will be broken into:
A. Alaska and Hawaii - America Boreoccidentalis Inferior
B. Idaho Oregon and Washington State - America Boreoccidentalis
Superior

V. California will be broken into:
A. California Superior (North of Paso Robles and Delano)

ATS:  Name is okay, but most of us are more familiar with the location of SF, LA, etc.  I don't know where Paso Robles and Delano are.

B. California Inferior (California South of Paso Robles and Delano)

VI. Lacus Magni will be broken into:
A. Wisconsin and Michigan - Lacus Magni
B. Illinois and Indiana - Lacus Magni Inferior
C. Ohio - Coenagrionidae

ATS:  What is this [Item C] supposed to mean?  Coen- is basically a Greek word stem, (= 'common,') but late Latin has that spelling for classical 'cen-,' which more or less means dinner.  Agr- looks a bit like 'field,' but this makes no sense.  

VII. Mediatlantica will be broken into:
A. New York and New Jersey - Novum Eboracensis

ATS:  Eboracum Novum, which means NY.  Novum is an adjective = 'new.'  Eboracensis is a masculine / feminine adjective; novum is neuter.  The latter can be a substantive when referring to a person, but not when referring to a thing in this context.  There is no noun present here.  Maybe, Regio Novi Eboracensis.  

B. Pennsylvania and Delaware - Mediatlantica
C. Maryland and DC - Regio Columbia

ATS:  Regio Columbiana, probably. Latin prefers the adjective to the genitive of a noun, but this form is too late for my unabridged dictionaries.  

D. Virginia and West Virginia - Will be called Virginia

And the tiny provinces of Canada don't require division?  Just a hop, skip, and a jump from Ottawa to Edmonton?  

Sulla, I know you did your best on these names; you don't know Latin (so far as I am aware), and cannot really be faulted.  However, with two or three Latinists available to you in your own faction, someone should have spoken up.  

Valete. 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91831 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Ave,

Thank you for the naming suggestions.  I will include them in my next senate call.  

There is still one province I need to restructure...so I will send you a private email to get your suggestions for acceptable Latin names.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91832 From: Scipio Second Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Ave Omnes,
 
Personally I am thrilled that Texas and Oklahoma are to constitute one province.   In deference to Oklahoma might I suggest the name Texhoma?   It is an appellation familiar to both states and used.   
 
Vale optime,
 
Petrus Augustinus  
 


On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:24 PM, Robert <robert.woolwine@...  
Ave,

Thank you for the naming suggestions.  I will include them in my next senate call.  

There is still one province I need to restructure...so I will send you a private email to get your suggestions for acceptable Latin names.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "A. Tullia Scholastica" <flavia@...


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91833 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Ave,

I certainly have no problem with that name.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91834 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum

C. Decius Laterensis A. Tulliae Scholasticae omnibusque S.P.D.

I also had wondered how Ohio managed to get such an unusual tongue-twister of a name, so I asked. It seems the name came directly out of Sulla's Latin dictionary as exactly 'Ohio'. My own Latin dictionary isn't so exhaustive, so I plugged it into Google translate (I know...), and it also returned 'Ohio'. I'll admit, I'm a little curious as to how a native name in North America got a Latin version.

Di vos incolumes custodiant!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android



From: A. Tullia Scholastica <flavia@... To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Nova-Roma] de nominibus provinciarum
Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 7:57:51 PM

 

A. Tullia Scholastica L. Vitellio Triario Statiae Corneliae Aeterniae L. Cornelio Sullae quiritibusque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.


Triari, I know that you did not come up with these names, and apparently have been stuck with a difficult job which will require a major do-over.  Indeed it would have been nice for these names to have been submitted for verification before you worked with them.  For the uninitiated, there is a group called the Sodalitas Latinitatis which can do this in the absence (or, for that matter, the presence) of senatorial Latinists.  Someone could have sent a message with these proposed names to Lentulus or me…or the Sodalitas.  

I am going to try to paste a list of these names below, and will provide a minimal grammatical fix.  At this point, with exams impending in all three courses I am teaching and working my way through back homework assignments after a major computer failure, I cannot do much more.  

===========


I. Hibernia (Ireland) - Ceases to exist - becomes incorporated to
Britannia

ATS:  No problem here, not to mention that this makes good sense.  

II. America Austrioccidentalis is broken up into the following:

ATS:  Austro[o]cidentalis, minus one of those i's. 

A. Arizona, Nevada, Utah - Merdies Occident Desertum (South West
Desert)

ATS:  Meridies means south; it has an i in the middle.  It is a noun; here we need an adjective.  Unfortunately Latin does not have a word for southeast or southwest; it uses a phrase for both.  Deserta (neuter plural) or solitudo (feminine singular) are used for 'desert.'  Maybe Deserta Australia Occidentalia, or Solitudo Australia Occidentalis.  Or try another name.  

B. New Mexico and Colorado - Merdies Orientalis Desertum

Again, Deserta Orientalia or Solitudo Orientalis.

C. Texas and Oklahoma - Texas 

III. America Austrorientalis will be broken into:
A. Arkansas and Louisiana - Gallia Minor

ATS:  Um, maybe Gallia Nova?  

B. Mississippi and Alabama - Mississippi

This should be Latinized somehow…

C. Tennessee and Kentucky - Confinium austrorientalis

ATS:  Confinium means a shared boundary. This noun does not work here.  To make the adjective agree, it would have to be austrorientale, neuter.  Major fix needed, however.  Maybe Terra Equorum / Equina?  

D. Florida and Georgia - Austrorientalis Stagnum

ATS:  Stagnum means a pond or swamp.  Not exactly complimentary.  The adjective would also have to go into the neuter:  stagnum austrorientale.  Maybe 'Terra Musci Hispanici,' land of Spanish moss, or 'Terra Gossypi,' land of cotton.  Latin nouns precede their adjectives. 

E. North and South Carolina - Carolinias

ATS:  Caroliniae.  Very easy fix. They are plural.  

IV. America Boreoccidentalis will be broken into:
A. Alaska and Hawaii - America Boreoccidentalis Inferior
B. Idaho Oregon and Washington State - America Boreoccidentalis
Superior

V. California will be broken into:
A. California Superior (North of Paso Robles and Delano)

ATS:  Name is okay, but most of us are more familiar with the location of SF, LA, etc.  I don't know where Paso Robles and Delano are.

B. California Inferior (California South of Paso Robles and Delano)

VI. Lacus Magni will be broken into:
A. Wisconsin and Michigan - Lacus Magni
B. Illinois and Indiana - Lacus Magni Inferior
C. Ohio - Coenagrionidae

ATS:  What is this [Item C] supposed to mean?  Coen- is basically a Greek word stem, (= 'common,') but late Latin has that spelling for classical 'cen-,' which more or less means dinner.  Agr- looks a bit like 'field,' but this makes no sense.  

VII. Mediatlantica will be broken into:
A. New York and New Jersey - Novum Eboracensis

ATS:  Eboracum Novum, which means NY.  Novum is an adjective = 'new.'  Eboracensis is a masculine / feminine adjective; novum is neuter.  The latter can be a substantive when referring to a person, but not when referring to a thing in this context.  There is no noun present here.  Maybe, Regio Novi Eboracensis.  

B. Pennsylvania and Delaware - Mediatlantica
C. Maryland and DC - Regio Columbia

ATS:  Regio Columbiana, probably. Latin prefers the adjective to the genitive of a noun, but this form is too late for my unabridged dictionaries.  

D. Virginia and West Virginia - Will be called Virginia

And the tiny provinces of Canada don't require division?  Just a hop, skip, and a jump from Ottawa to Edmonton?  

Sulla, I know you did your best on these names; you don't know Latin (so far as I am aware), and cannot really be faulted.  However, with two or three Latinists available to you in your own faction, someone should have spoken up.  

Valete. 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91835 From: Charlie Collins Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Salve,

What's in store for AMS Province name wise? I've always thought it was way to big (especially when I was Governor).  

Vale,
Quintus Servilius Priscus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91836 From: Date: 2013-11-02
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Cornelio Sullae quiritibusque bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

---- Robert <robert.woolwine@... You are quite welcome. I prefer Regio Novi Eboracensis for the NY / NY area, and am wondering about Ohio--which likely can be simply taken as is and declined in the third Latin declension as 'Ohio, Ohionis,' etc. The two Virginias might best be put in the plural, too, as Virginiae. Americans should know that these were both one state, and that WV was later separated.

I will include them in my next senate call.

Good; thank you.
Okay; haven't received it yet, and please note that I have a new address.

Valete.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91837 From: qfabiusmaximus Date: 2013-11-03
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
 
 
In a message dated 11/2/2013 12:57:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, flavia@... writes:
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91838 From: Robert Date: 2013-11-03
Subject: Re: de nominibus provinciarum
Ave,

As Fabius described those were the reasons for giving the additional detail for the boundary of the California provinces.  Just about anyone who has lived in California would have a very good idea of the locations near the mid point of the state.  Especially Paso Robles which hosts the mid state fair every year. (I have very fond memories of going there in my youth - excellent concerts).

Respectfully,

Sulla

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91839 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-03
Subject: FW: [Explorator] explorator 16.29
Salvete
 
FYI
 
Valete
 
Paulinus
 

From: rogueclassicist@...
To: Explorator@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:34:42 -0500
Subject: [Explorator] explorator 16.29

 
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explorator 16.29                               November 3, 2013
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Editor's note: Most urls should be active for at least eight
hours from the time of publication.

For your computer's protection, Explorator is sent in plain text
and NEVER has attachments (other than the odd youtube video).
Be suspicious of any Explorator which arrives otherwise!!!

n.b. It has come to my attention that several mail carriers are
now filtering mail with lots of links (like explorator) as spam.
You might want to add Explorator to your address book or whatever
to ensure it gets through.
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================================================================
Thanks to Arthur Shippee, Dave Sowdon, Edward Rockstein, Kurt Theis,
John McMahon, Barnea Selavan, Joseph Lauer, Mike Ruggeri,
Wilfried Zankl, Bob Heuman, Jennifer Cosham, Hernan Astudillo, 
Jennifer Cosham, Wendy van Duivenvoorde, Richard Campbell,
Richard C. Griffiths,and Ross W. Sargent for headses upses this
week (as always hoping I have left no one out).

n.b. The problem with dead links seems to be -- for the most part --
specific to yahoomail users (although some .edu addresses seem
also to be affected). If this doesn't apply to you, all I can
suggest is that you cut and paste the following link to read it
via yahoo's site:

http://www.yahoogroups.com/neo/groups/Explorator/conversations/topics

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EARLY HOMINIDS
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Interesting feature on hominid sculptor John Gurche:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/11/03/john-gurche-hominid-sculptor/8fVd8dsBuoOV3IX1as5iSM/story.html


Homo erectus is getting credit for creating some long slender tools a million years earlier than previously thought:

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-early-stone-tool-sophisticated-thought.html
cf http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/368/1630/20130114.abstract?sid=378010d5-a31f-46a4-ae69-7c7b6cc61222 (full text)

Pondering homo  ______________s

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/science/our-ancestors-name-starts-with-homo-but-then-what.html?ref=science&_r=0
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AFRICA
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Feature on a couple of slave-trade sites on the Ivory Coast:

http://news.abidjan.net/h/478884.html (French)

Feature on museums in Kenya and how they challenge current beliefs in the area:

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-ancient-modern-cradle-mankind.html
http://artdaily.com/news/65912/National-Museums-of-Kenya--Ancient-past-challenges-modern-teaching-in--cradle-of-mankind--#.UnGI-xAyHZk
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/29/ancient-skeletons-challenge-modern-religion-in-humanitys-cradle/
http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/ancient-past-challenges-modern-teaching-humanitys-cradle


More on those figurines from Ghana:

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2013/figurines-reveal-secrets-of-ancient-african-rituals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2478873/Revealing-secrets-ancient-Africa-1-400-year-old-clay-models-healing-chameleons-headed-humans-displayed-time-UK.html
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ANCIENT NEAR EAST AND EGYPT
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A huge stone has fallen from an (apparently) non-descript pharaonic tomb
outside Cairo:

http://artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65989#.UnZCh1OKLes
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131102/huge-stone-falls-wall-surrounding-egypt-tomb

Egypt is keeping an eye on the auctions:

http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Egypts-government-cracks-down-on-illicit-sales/30818

The Al-Muzawaka necropolis in Dakhla Oasis has opened to the public after some restoration work:

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/4486/47/The-necropolis-opens.aspx

On ‘satire’ in ancient Egypt:

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/satirical-criticism-pharaonic-heritage-archaeologist

Feature on the fate of Cairo’s Al-Muizz Li-Din Allah street  in the wake of the revoluiion:

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/4530/17/Recovering-from-revolution.aspx

Zahi Hawass is coming under US scrutiny apparently:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-investigates-national-geographic-over-corrupt-payments-to-egypts-keeper-of-antiquities-8909454.html
https://www.vocativ.com/10-2013/tut-tut-nat-geo-bribe-egypts-famed-indiana-jones/

A major structure dating (possibly) from the time of Cyrus the Great at Parsa:

http://tehrantimes.com/arts-and-culture/111817-ruins-of-huge-ancient-structure-unearthed-near-persepolis
http://www.payvand.com/news/13/oct/1238.html

An ancient Jewish cemetery turns up during tunnel construction in Izmir:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2483536/Ancient-Jewish-cemetery-discovered-digging-tunnel-Turkey.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

A Hittite site in suburban Istanbul:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/unearthed-hittite-artifacts-in-istanbul-break-new-ground.aspx?pageID=238&nID=57088&NewsCatID=375

A mural from Catal Houyuk might be the first depiction of a volcanic eruption:

http://www.livescience.com/40825-oldest-volcano-painting-linked-turkey-eruption.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24492-ancient-mural-may-be-first-picture-of-volcanic-blast.html
http://news.yahoo.com/oldest-volcano-painting-linked-ancient-eruption-183414741.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/9-000-year-old-painting-volcano-linked-real-eruption-8C11498570

Interesting feature on the ‘salty pots of Ur’:

http://www.penn.museum/blog/collection/conservation/the-salty-pots-of-ur-and-the-desalination-station/

A 1400 years b.p. Quran has gone missing from a Yemen museum:

http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=476845
http://www.yementimes.com/en/1724/news/3051/1300-year-old-Quran-stolen-from-National-Museum.htm

Antiquities thieves were arrested at Khirbat Umm er-Rus (an awful lot of attention for this one for some reason):

http://www.timesofisrael.com/antiquities-thieves-nabbed-at-second-temple-era-site/
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/173312#.UnZHVVOKLes
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Antiquities-thieves-who-allegedly-sneaked-into-Israel-on-donkeys-to-face-indictment-329985

Turkey and Egypt are having some sort of spat over restoration of antiquities:

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=121690

The OI is seeking help from Iran to translate some tablets:

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920806000840

General sort of feature on things found during the construction of that tunnel
under the Bosporus:

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-turkey-sea-tunnel-link-continents.html

Latest in the effort to preserve/restore the Dead Sea:

http://jordantimes.com/project-to-preserve-dead-sea-must-safeguard-its-character---study

An update of sorts on efforts to save all those Dilmun-associated mounds in Bahrain:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/31/world/meast/in-bahrain-development-chips-away/index.html

More on climate change and the eastern Mediterranean:

http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.554347

More on that curse tablet from Jerusalem:

http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.555382
http://www.antiquities.org.il/article_Item_eng.asp?sec_id=25&subj_id=240&id=2025&module_id=#as

More on the Carmel Caves as UNESCO sites:

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=12915
http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2013/10/29/carmel-caves-named-newest-unesco-world-heritage-site

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ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME (AND CLASSICS)
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Plenty of coverage of the discovery of a “roman-british’ eagle at a hotel development site in London:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/archaeology/10411832/Exceptionally-rare-Roman-statue-unearthed-in-City-of-London-building-site.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/roman-eagle-rises-again-in-london-after-2000-years-8911721.html
http://artdaily.com/news/65910/Pristine-Roman-sculpture-discovered-by-archaeologists--goes-on-display-at-the-Museum-of-London-
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/rare-roman-eagle-sculpture-found-in-london-131030.htm
http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/science-roman-eagle-sculpture-01504.html
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/europe/uk-london-roman-eagle/index.html?sr=fb103013romaneagle5p 
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/europe/uk-london-roman-eagle/ (nice slideshow)
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/518512/20131031/roman-eagle-sculpture-found-archaeology-london-mola.htm
http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art457316
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/rare-roman-eagle-sculpture-found-in-london-131030.htm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/1900-year-old-roman-eagle-sculpture-discovered-2652811
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/oct/29/roman-eagle-found-archaeologists-london-sculpture-art
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2478904/Roman-sculpture-eagle-devouring-serpent-unearthed-London.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65910


Also getting a lot of attention is a project mapping Rome’s aqueducts using robots:

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-hi-tech-aqueduct-explorers-rome-frontier.html
http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/high-tech-explorers-map-romes-aqueduct-131029.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10406557/Lasers-and-robots-explore-ancient-Romes-hidden-aqueducts.html
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11147243
http://artdaily.com/news/65909/Hi-tech-aqueduct-explorers-using-GPS-technology-and-remote-control-robots--map-ancient-Rome-s--final-frontier--
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478907/Hidden-history-Hi-tech-aqueduct-explorers-map-Rome-final-frontier.html
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-2478907/Hidden-history-Hi-tech-aqueduct-explorers-map-Rome-final-frontier.html
http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/hi-tech-aqueduct-explorers-map-romes-final-frontier
http://www.news24.com/Technology/News/Hi-tech-explorers-map-Romes-ancient-aqueduct-20131029
http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2013/10/29/hi-tech-explorers-set-out-to-map-ancient-rome-s-aqueducts



A Roman child coffin from Warwickshire (we may have mentioned this last week):

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/warwickshire-archaeologists-investigate-2000-year-old-roman-6262188
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-24730587
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/26/roman-childs-coffin-unearthed-field_n_4164891.html

Major funding for a study of Roman ports:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-24742920
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10778009._/
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2013/connecting-the-dots-harbours-and-ports-of-the-roman-empire
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/mediacentre/news/2013/oct/13_190.shtml

The Dallas MoA is the latest to return items to Italy:

http://artdaily.com/news/65961/First-display-of-excavated-Etruscan-tomb-opens-at-the-Dallas-Museum-of-Art
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/nov/02/eu-italy-dallas-antiquities/
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/dallas-museum-returns-antiquities-italy-20741343
http://news.yahoo.com/dallas-museum-returns-antiquities-italy-162520999.html
http://artsblog.dallasnews.com/2013/10/dallas-museum-of-art-to-display-etruscan-artifacts-for-first-time.html/?nclick_check=1
http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/News/Spettacolo/Archeologia-Museo-Dallas-restituisce-allItalia-sei-reperti_32807238358.html  (Italian)

… and, of course, they get something in return:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65961


The dig season at Zeugma has come to a close:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/digging-season-ends-at-zeugma.aspx?pageID=238&nID=56922&NewsCatID=375

Latest from Sveshtari (Bulgaria):

http://www.novinite.com/articles/154960/Bulgaria%27s+Sveshtari+Thracian+Tomb+Celebrated+Life

Interview with Stephen Miller about Nemea:

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite4_1_23/10/2013_524520

Megara is now a protected site:

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/10/30/greek-council-lists-megara-as-archaeological-site/
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_30/10/2013_525387

In case you missed Rihanna as Medusa:

http://www.capitalfm.com/artists/rihanna/news/medusa-gq-magazine/

The Crosby Garret helmet is going on display:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-24692571

The Via Allesandrina has reopened at Trajan’s Market:

http://www.wantedinrome.com/news/2002690/via-alessandrina-reopens-at-trajan-s-markets.html

More on garum (that NPR thing):

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/10/26/240237774/fish-sauce-an-ancient-roman-condiment-rises-again

More on Armand D’Angour’s Greek music project:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2478381/The-haunting-music-takes-1-800-years-Expert-records-100-accurate-version-song-heard-ancient-Greece.html
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http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/recent.html

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EUROPE AND THE UK (+ Ireland)
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A 7000 years b.p. site from Hungary has one of the oldest cases of tuberculosis:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131030185934.htm
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-10/plos-oot102913.php
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2013/tuburculosis-found-in-7000-year-old-body
http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/science-tuberculosis-europe-01507.html

cf http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0078252



Evidence of 6000 years of occupation at Pays de Sainte Odile:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65946
http://www.inrap.fr/archeologie-preventive/Actualites/Communiques-de-presse/p-16489-Un-site-archeologique-d-exception-a-Obernai-Bas-Rhin-plus-de-6-000-ans-d-occupation.htm
http://www.la-croix.com/Actualite/France/Pres-d-Obernai-six-mille-ans-d-histoire-mis-au-jour-2013-10-31-1054049  (French)
http://www.newspress.fr/Communique_FR_272569_3047.aspx  (French)

A Lusatian culture necropolis from Poland:

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/archaeological-site-revealing-6000-years-of-occupation
http://www.naukawpolsce.pap.pl/en/news/news,397821,cemetery-dating-back-more-than-2500-years-studied-near-wagrowiec.html


Sacrificed slaves in a Viking grave in Norway (we may have mentioned this):

http://www.livescience.com/40792-viking-slaves-sacrified-burial.html

TV archaeologists find items from various periods (including an Iron Age hill fort) near Kenfig:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-24723765

Interesting feature on Viking-Persian trade:

http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/23511

Burials from various periods found during pipeline construction in Bulgaria:

http://www.novinite.com/articles/155159/New+Archaeology+Treasue+Unearthed+in+Bulgaria

The Witches of Belvoir may have been ‘framed’:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24748721


The Cerne Abbas Giant has sprouted a moustache:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-24772626

Kisimul Castle will get some conservation done:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-24770634

The metal-detectorists in the UK seem to have a high-placed ally:

http://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/ed-vaisey-insults-every-archaeologist/

Still arguing over Henry IV’s head:

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-king-henry-head-20131031,0,7672266.story

Someone found some 700 years b.p. sheet music in Hereford Council’s archives:

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2013/tuburculosis-found-in-7000-year-old-body

Suggestion that Otzi’s tattoos were an early form of acupuncture:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2478420/Were-tzi-icemans-tattoos-early-form-acupuncture-Scientists-believe-5-000-year-old-skin-etchings-therapeutic.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

More on that ‘monument’ from Sweden:

http://sciencenordic.com/huge-ancient-monument-found-sweden

More on that ‘Swedish Pompeii’:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/archaeologists-uncover-scene-horror-swedish-pompeii-8C11338658
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http://archaeology-in-europe.blogspot.com/

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ASIA AND THE SOUTH PACIFIC
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A Bali man found a 2300 years b.p. sarcophagus while planting coffee:

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/bali-man-finds-2000-year-old-sarcophagus-while-planting-coffee/

Eight ‘hand cannons’ were found during renovations to Bangkok’s Front Palace:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Ancient-firearms-found-near-Front-Palace-30218438.html

Remains of a monastery beneath an 18th century Thai king’s tomb in Mandalay:

http://www.irrawaddy.org/burma/ancient-monastery-buried-beneath-thai-kings-tomb-mandalay.html

Latest from that Unnao ‘gold hunt’:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Unnao-gold-hunt-puts-GSIs-reputation-at-stake/articleshow/25169093.cms

… including ongoing criticism:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/official-assails-asi-for-going-on-gold-hunt/article5296934.ece
http://www.hindustantimes.com/audio-news-video/AV-India/Unnao-gold-hunt-ASI-to-continue-digging/Article2-1145268.aspx
http://newindianexpress.com/nation/Gold-hunt-ASI-between-rock-and-hard-place/2013/10/30/article1863673.ece
http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/Nation-slipping-into-blind-faith/2013/10/30/article1863017.ece
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1131030/jsp/nation/story_17510752.jsp#.UnGJbxAyHZk

… and there’s talk of the dig ending soon:

http://newindianexpress.com/nation/ASIs-gold-hunt-in-Uttar-Pradesh-may-end/2013/10/29/article1862729.ece

Plans to excavate at a Dutch fort in Pulicat:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/asi-set-to-excavate-fort-in-pulicat/article5286361.ece

There’s some digging to do in Ayodhya, apparently:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/asi-yet-to-excavate-key-sites-in-ayodhya/article5305435.ece

Latest finds from Jaffna fort (Sri Lanka):

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=36789

A 1500 years b.p. Roman coin in a Chinese tomb:

http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2013102946378

The early Maori may have had gout problems:

http://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/otago057251.html

Concerns for some Buddhist sites in Pakistan:

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/10/24/Buddhist-carvings-in-Pakistan-said-to-need-protection/31380219369963/#ixzz2j3AAiA9R

Move a river to protect a temple?:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/article5288276.ece

A ‘ghostly’ Hong Kong conservation piece:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-24302108

Feature on the Forbidden City:

http://www.livescience.com/40764-forbidden-city.html
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http://eastasiablog.wordpress.com/

Southeast Asian Archaeology Newsblog:

http://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/

New Zealand Archaeology eNews:

http://www.nzarchaeology.org/netsubnews.htm
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NORTH AMERICA
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DNA suggests a different model for the peopling of the Americas:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38061/title/European-Roots-for-Native-Americans-/

A dig near Lake George (NY) has turned up some 10 000 years b.p. artifacts:

http://phys.org/news302453175.html
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/dig_near_lake_george_turns_up_10000-year_old_artifacts.html
http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/23134/20131031/dig-turns-up-ancient-artifacts-at-lake-george-site

Suggestion that flooding may have contributed to/led to Cahokia’s decline:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/131030-cahokia-native-american-flood-mystery-archaeology-pollen/

Some Beothuk house pit sites:

http://www.thelabradorian.ca/section/2013-10-28/article-3449900/Re-identifying-history/1
http://www.thepacket.ca/section/2013-10-28/article-3449900/Re-identifying-history/1
http://www.thegeorgian.ca/News/Regional/2013-10-28/article-3449900/Re-identifying-history/1

A Swedish cannon from the QAR:

http://www.thelocal.se/20131101/blackbeards-swedish-booty-dredged-up-from-sea

… and other things too:

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-archeologists-booty-pirate-blackbeard-ship.html
http://www.carolinacoastonline.com/news_times/article_84f06f36-3fe3-11e3-b423-001a4bcf887a.html
http://www.cp24.com/world/5-cannons-recovered-from-blackbeard-s-ship-1.1518791?ot=Html5MobileRedirectPageLayout.ot&type=iphone&redirect=false#

Radio interviewish thing on Camp Stanton:

http://programs.wypr.org/podcast/remembering-camp-stanton

They’ve finally located the wreck of the Roberval in Lake Ontario:

http://www.theprovince.com/news/explorers+find+shipwreck+Canadian+steamer+that+sank+Lake/9101648/story.html
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4183430-wreck-of-steamer-that-sank-in-lake-ontario-in-1916-located/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/explorers-find-97-year-old-shipwreck-of-canadian-steamer-in-lake-ontario/article15156250/?cmpid=rss1

… and the Mary Ann in Lake Superior:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/thunder-bay-divers-discover-historic-wreck-1.2254704

Concerns for sites in North Carolina:

http://www.wnct.com/story/23806070/archaeologists-relic-hunters-destroying-nc-sites
http://www.dailyadvance.com/ap/staten/archaeologists-relic-hunters-destroying-nc-sites-2205575
http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/ap/staten/archaeologists-relic-hunters-destroying-nc-sites-2205575

Concerns for some house foundations near Louisbourg:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/backhoe-uncovers-history-near-fortress-of-louisbourg-1.2288363

Mercury contamination as a ‘legacy’ of the California gold rush:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131028163001.htm
http://phys.org/news/2013-10-documents-contaminant-legacy-california-gold.html
http://news.discovery.com/earth/rocks-fossils/gold-rush-s-poisonous-legacy-mercury-131030.htm
http://www.livescience.com/40794-gold-rush-mercury-pollution.html
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2013/mercury-contamination-legacy-of-the-californian-gold-rush
http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/30258

Marking a century at the La Brea Tarpits:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/1029/La-Brea-Tar-Pits-What-has-emerged-from-L.A.-s-prehistoric-asphalt-video (Video)
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/10/animals-trapped-in-the-la-brea-tar-pits-would-take-months-to-sink/
http://www.universityherald.com/articles/5210/20131028/la-brea-tar-pits-100-years-of-fossil-discoveries-celebrated-at-los-angeles-museum.htm
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/10/28/Los-Angeles-marks-century-of-finds-from-La-Brea-tar-pits/UPI-52041383018318/?spt=rln&or=1
http://www.frenchtribune.com/teneur/1320471-la-brea-tar-pits-museum-completes-100-years-excavation
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CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA
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Large reliefs of humans and birds at Huaca Partida (Peru):

http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0000749479 http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-peru-archaeologists-discover-relief-artwork-of-man-bird-at-huaca-partida-101274
http://www.andina.com.pe/Ingles/noticia-reliefs-of-man-bird-discovered-in-peru-480100.aspx

A 3000 years b.p. Chavin (maybe) religious site from Peru:

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2013/11/01/archaeologists-discover-3000-year-old-religious-center-in-northern-peru/
http://www.larepublica.pe/31-10-2013/walter-alva-descubre-santuario-religioso-con-influencia-chavin (Spanish)
http://www.larepublica.pe/30-10-2013/lambayeque-descubren-santuario-religioso-de-la-cultura-chavin-en-canaris   (Spanish)
http://www.rpp.com.pe/2013-10-30-descubren-oraculo-de-la-cultura-chavin-en-sierra-de-lambayeque-noticia_643776.html  (Spanish)

I think we’ve mentioned these two mummies from a Lima suburb:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-24665427
http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/archeologists-discover-pre-incan-tomb-in-peru-113102500091_1.html

A 600 years bp Chimu road in northern Peru was ‘destroyed’:

http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-600-year-old-chimu-road-destroyed-in-northern-peru-101241

On the use of drones to map the pyramids of Zuleta

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2013/drone-mapping-pyramids-zuleta-ecuador

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OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST
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Study suggests we might learn more (because it’s cheaper) from RNA than DNA:

http://news.sciencemag.org/archaeology/2013/10/cleaning-ancient-human-dna

OpEd praising forgeries:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/opinion/sunday/in-praise-of-art-forgeries.html?hp&rref=opinion

On the history of spying:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24749166

Not sure where to put this interviewish/reviewish thing with Dan Lieberman:

http://grist.org/living/the-caveman-dilemma-why-we-take-such-lousy-care-of-ourselves-and-our-planet/

Interesting feature on automatons:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/science/the-automatons-of-yesteryear.html?ref=science

The Rothschild Prayerbook is coming to auction:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65970
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/arts/design/renaissance-prayer-book-is-set-for-auction.html?ref=arts

… as is ‘the definitive portrait’ of Jane Austen:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65952
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24755537

Feature on some 17th century botanical paintings:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/609f72dc-3c94-11e3-86ef-00144feab7de.html

Feature on the names which have dominated elite UK universities for centuries:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479271/1-000-years-invaded-need-Norman-like-Darcy-Percy-ahead.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Dutch museums have a lot of Nazi-looted art, it seems:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24727965
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/518042/20131030/artworks-stolen-jews-during-wwii-found-dutch.htm#.UnZky1OKLes
http://www.ydr.com/lifestyle/ci_24410339/dutch-museums-find-139-artworks-likely-looted-by

Someone is stealing trophies from assorted NY area country clubs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/sports/a-trophy-thief-goes-for-the-gold.html

Studying an old bat:

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-old-bat-gets-a-new.html#jCp

Review of Deborah Solomon,*American Mirror*:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/books/american-mirror-about-norman-rockwell-by-deborah-solomon.html?ref=arts
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TOURISTY THINGS
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Roman Britain:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/uk/10414169/Roman-Britain-the-best-sights.html
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CRIME BEAT
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Looting Matters:

http://lootingmatters.blogspot.com/

Illicit Cultural Property:

http://illicit-cultural-property.blogspot.com/

SAFE:

http://www.savingantiquities.org/blog/
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http://www.coinbooks.org/club_nbs_esylum_v16n44.html

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http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2013/11/01/huge-exhibition-of-greek-artifacts-coming-to-gatineau/
http://www.heraldonline.com/2013/10/31/5358636/treasures-of-greek-antiquity-coming.html

Geographic Knowledge in Greco Roman Antiquity:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304106704579137923797635300

Power of Poison:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/arts/artsspecial/museum-explores-the-power-of-poison.html

Book of Books:

http://www.jpost.com/Arts-and-Culture/Article.aspx?id=329874
http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=38714
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4445697,00.html

El Dorado:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-10-27/drug-crazed-colombians-sacrifice-children-for-gold-in-u-dot-k-dot-show

Gems of Impressionism:

http://artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=65873#.UnZnqFOKLes

Bartok:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/arts/international/bartok-seen-heard-and-felt.html?ref=arts

Allegory and Illusion:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/arts/design/allegory-and-illusion-at-the-rubin-museum.html?ref=arts

Beethoven’s Ninth:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/arts/music/beethovens-ninth-a-masterpiece-reunited-at-the-morgan.html?ref=arts

Belgium is fixing up its colonial museum:

http://www.newsdaily.com/africa/8b40578d74543f87ad53da0aa69700ac/leopardman-vs-good-missionary-belgium-revamps-colonial-museum

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/theater/the-light-and-dark-of-a-midsummer-nights-dream.html?ref=arts

La Vestale:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/arts/with-la-vestale-renewed-appreciation-for-spontini.html?ref=arts

Looking ahead to Strauss’ 150th:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/30/arts/international/strauss-a-composer-at-the-top-of-his-game.html?ref=arts

Following the Ninth:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/movies/following-the-ninth-explores-beethovens-legacy.html?ref=arts
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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91840 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-04
Subject: REMINDER: Call for candidates
Avete Omnes,

This is a helpful reminder that if anyone wishes to announce their candidacy for the following offices:

Censor
Consul
Praetor
Quaestor

Please email me @ robert.woolwine@...

In your email please include the following:

Your full Roman name
Your age
The office you wish to run for.

Remember, Nova Roma can only prosper through sound leadership and a passion for service.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91841 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2013-11-05
Subject: The CP is called in session.
SALVETE!

The Collegium Pontificum is called into session starting with 08.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d.XVII Kal Dec 2766 a.U.c (Friday 15 November 2013) until 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on pr Kal Dec 2766 a.U.c (Saturday 30 November 2013).

The session schedule.

Contio:

Starting with 08.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d.XVII Kal Dec 2766 a.U.c (Friday 15 November 2013) until 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d VII Kal Dec 2766 a.U.c (Monday 25 November 2013).

Vote:
Start immediately after contio and ends at 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on pr Kal Dec 2766 a.U.c (Saturday, 30 November 2766).

QUOD BONUM FAUSTVM FELIX FORTUNATUMQUE SIT POPULO ROMANO QUIRITIBUS

A. Current items:

1. Appointment of M. Aelius Geminus (Sacedos Mercuri).
2. Appointment of T. Iulius Nix (Sacerdos).
3. Approval of the wiki page:
4. The CP secretary position.

B.The Collegium Pontificum members can add new items during the contio (recommended!) but not later than 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d VIII Kal Dec 2766 a.U.c (Sunday 24 November 2013)- (24 hrs before the vote starts).

C. Proxy.
A CP member who is unable to vote can give his proxy to another CP member during the contio.

D. The Collegium Pontificum session can be observed by the entire Nova Roman community at this address:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/collegium_pontificum_nr/   

VALETE,
T. Iulius Sabinus
Pontifex.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91842 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-05
Subject: Re: The CP is called in session.
Salve Sabine!

Thank you very much for posting this summons. 

I hope this will be a very productive session for the College. 

Bene vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91843 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-06
Subject: Curule Aedile
Avete Omnes,

It just came to my attention that I totally forgot to include the Curule Aedile position is also up for the coming election

If anyone is interested there are two vacant spots for that office as well.

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91844 From: Charlie Collins Date: 2013-11-06
Subject: Chariot Game for Android Phones and Tablets
Salve,

Here's a game called Chariot Wars for Android phones and tablets I found:


Vale,
Quintus Servilius Priscus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91845 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-06
Subject: Re: Chariot Game for Android Phones and Tablets
Ave,

This looks really interesting I am going to try it on my Kindle once I have some time...hopefully over the holiday weekend.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91846 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-09
Subject: Reminder - Plebeian elections
Attention all plebeian citizens:

We have one declared candidate for the office of Plebeian Tribune. There are four more vacancies.

We have no declared candidates for the office of Plebeian Aedile. There are two vacancies. 

Between now and 11:59 pm Rome time on Friday, November 15th, I will be compiling a list of candidates and verifying that those who express interest meet the requirements to assume office. If you are interested in becoming either a Plebeian Tribune or a Plebeian Aedile, please send a private message to caninus@... with following information:

Your Nova Roman name
Your age
The office you intend to run for.

At about 1:00 pm Rome time on November 16th I will announce the final list of eligible candidates.

Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian order, assidui, and at least 21 years of age by the date of taking office.

Candidates for tribunus plebis must be citizens in good standing, for at least six full months before taking office, of the plebeian order, assidui, and at least 25 years of age by the date of taking office.

Bene vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91847 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Free Nova Roma tax payments for a few plebeian citizens
M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus salutem dicit.


Speaking as a private citizen, outside of my current office as a
tribune, I want to be sure Nova Roma has several candidates for the
plebeian offices of tribune and aedile for 2767 auc. The elections are
coming in just a few days. I can tell you that at this point there has
been only one person who has requested his name be put on a ballot for
tribune and no one has stepped up for aedile. So, as a private citizen,
I offer an incentive. I want to be sure that paying taxes is not a
barrier to anyone who is otherwise qualified and wants to run for
office. Thus, I will pay the 2766 auc and 2767 auc taxes for the first
six qualified candidates who let me know of their intent to run. [I will
also cover the payments for the current tribune candidate, if he so
desires --- just email me and let me know.]


If you are interested in becoming either a Plebeian Tribune or a
Plebeian Aedile, please send a private message to caninus@...
with following information:

Your Nova Roman name,
your age
the office you intend to run for,
and whether or not you would like to have your taxes paid by me.


I have discussed this with the CFO and he has assured me that my
payments of the taxes for 2766 auc and 2767 auc will meet the asiduus
requirement for the candidates to run for and assume their offices.


M. Pompeius Caninus
Senator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91848 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every Roman
Avete Omnes,

This evening as I was buying some books for Kindle I just came across this book on my recommendation list.

It was originally priced at $42.00 
Kindle price was $2.52 (94% off)

The description is:

No Book on Roman History has attempted to do what Stephen Dando- Collins does in Legions of Rome:  to provide a complete history of every imperial Roman legion and what it achieved as a fighting force.  The author has spent at least thirty years collecting every scrap of available evidence from numerous sources:  Stone and Bronze inscriptions, coins, papyrus and literary accounts in a remarkable feat of historical detective work.  The book is divided into 3 parts:  Part 1 provides a detailed account of what the legionaries wore and ate, what camp life was like, what they were paid, and how they were motivated and punished.  This section also contains numerous personal histories of individual soldiers.  Part 2 offers brief unit histories of all the legions that served Rome for 300 years to 30 bc.  Part 3 is a sweeping chronological survey of the campaigns in which the armies were involved, told from the point of view of particular legions.  Lavish, authoritative and beautifully produced, Legions of Rome will appeal to ancient history enthusiasts and military history buffs alike.

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91849 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: OT: remembrance
Omnibus in foro S. P. D.

Before this became Veterans' Day, it was Armistice Day, and it was a solemn
celebration of the end of World War I. It was also a time set aside to
honor and remember all the war dead of all Nations, but especially those who
lost their lives during that horrific war.

As a child, we celebrated November 11th at our school in a simple but
profoundly moving manner. At 11:11 AM, taps would play over the loud
speaker system, and we would all stop what we were doing, stand with bowed
heads, and keep silence for a minute or so. Even before I understood why we
did this, I understood that what we did was important and necessary.

As I always do on this day, I offer this very beautiful and familiar poem,
in memory, honor and gratitude to all who gave their lives for their Nations
in time of war.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields

In Flanders Fields, by John McCrae

The other day, I was trying to explain to a 23 year old young man why the
original purpose of this day is so important, and should be remembered. He
couldn't understand why something that happened almost 100 years ago is
still so significant, or why we should bother about it. I explained to him,
finally that, like it or not, that global conflict not only changed the face
of war forever, but it changed society, as well, and that he and I, albeit
indirectly, are products of those changes. So, we remember, and I hope
that, in our remembering, we pray, and determine that Nations will never
embroil themselves in situations that cost the world an entire generation of
young people again.

Valete bene!
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91850 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Reminder - Plebeian elections
C. Aemilius Crassus omnibus SPD,

I would like to join Tribunus Caninus in remembering how important is the office of Tribunus Plebis and in asking all Plebeian citizens that are in conditions to be elected to the office to seriously consider to present themselves for the upcoming elections.

Valete optime,
Crassus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91851 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: OT: remembrance
Salve Maria, et salvete omnes!

Here in Britannia, November 11th is still called Remembrance Day, and on the Saturday night before the actual day there is a yearly Festival of Remembrance organised by the Royal British Legion and held at the Royal Albert Hall in London.

At the war memorial in every town and village there will have been a procession, parade and ceremony, ending with these words taken from the poem "For the Fallen" by Lawrence Binyon:-

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

As Maria says, this is a time to remember and reflect , and to regret the lives lost.

But at the festival at the Albert Hall yesterday, there was a young group called The Poppy Girls, all daughters of serving military personnel, and they sang one of the evening's songs. The parents of all except one were in the audience. One thought that her father was away on duty with the Royal Navy, but see what happens next. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsaAjQ2M02k

For Maria's benefit, I can tell you that her father had been flown home specially, and he appeared from the top row of the audience and she ran to his arms.
Needless to say, it was a moving moment.

But of course we remember those who never came home.

Valete omnes!

Crispus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91852 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every R
Salve, Sulla!

Sound like a fascinating read.  Thanks for the info.

Vale!
Quadratus


To: backalley@yahoogroups.com; nova-roma@yahoogroups.com; SodalitasMilitarium@yahoogroups.com
From: robert.woolwine@...
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:21:34 -0700
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every Roman Legion

 

Avete Omnes,

This evening as I was buying some books for Kindle I just came across this book on my recommendation list.

It was originally priced at $42.00 
Kindle price was $2.52 (94% off)

The description is:

No Book on Roman History has attempted to do what Stephen Dando- Collins does in Legions of Rome:  to provide a complete history of every imperial Roman legion and what it achieved as a fighting force.  The author has spent at least thirty years collecting every scrap of available evidence from numerous sources:  Stone and Bronze inscriptions, coins, papyrus and literary accounts in a remarkable feat of historical detective work.  The book is divided into 3 parts:  Part 1 provides a detailed account of what the legionaries wore and ate, what camp life was like, what they were paid, and how they were motivated and punished.  This section also contains numerous personal histories of individual soldiers.  Part 2 offers brief unit histories of all the legions that served Rome for 300 years to 30 bc.  Part 3 is a sweeping chronological survey of the campaigns in which the armies were involved, told from the point of view of particular legions.  Lavish, authoritative and beautifully produced, Legions of Rome will appeal to ancient history enthusiasts and military history buffs alike.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91853 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every R

Salvete!

 

My copy is patiently awaiting my reading pleasure, even as we speak, and yes, it *does* sound like a very interesting book, even for those who are not experts in military matters.

 

Valete bene!

C. Maria Caeca

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91854 From: GAIUS MARCIUS CRISPUS Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definitive history of every R
Salvete omnes!

Thanks for the tip, this looks like a very useful book. I shall enjoy reading about the legions of Britannia, especially my favourite, Leg IX Hisp.

At this bargain price, it now resides on my Kindle!

Valete omnes!

Crispus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91855 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: [SodalitasMilitarium] Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definit
Salve Sulla.

Thanks for the heads up on the price change. I've been holding off on buying it for nearly a year. But this book is now off of my wish list and waiting to be read in my library.

Bene vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91856 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-11
Subject: Re: [SodalitasMilitarium] Kindle Book - Legions of Rome: The Definit
Avete Omnes,

You are all welcome I just came across it last night.  94% off cannot be beat. :)

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91857 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-12
Subject: Plebeian election - Comitia to be summoned on Friday
M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus salutem dicit.

I will be summoning the Comitia Plebis Tributa on Friday morning,
November 15, 2013. The schedule for the comitia session shall be as
shown below, all times are Rome Time:

Nov 15th 08:00 AM Comitia Plebis Tributa summoned
Nov 15th 09:00 AM Contio opens
Nov 16th 01:00 PM Final list of candidates posted
Nov 20th 09:00 AM Contio closes
Nov 20th 01:00 PM Cista opens, voting period begins
Nov 28th 09:00 AM Cista closes, voting period ends
Nov 28th 10:00 AM Comitia closes
Nov 30th 09:00 PM Announcement of certified election results

The Cista will be the Nova Roma website Cista and instructions will be
posted several times prior to the opening of the Cista. Reminders shall
also be posted periodically during the voting period.

In addition to the election of new tribunes and aediles, the Comitia
Plebis Tributa shall consider a new law, Lex Pompeia de Cursu Honorum,
which will set the requirements for Tribunus Plebis and Aedilis Plebis
for future elections. A draft copy of the law will be sent out when
contio opens at 9:00am Rome Time on Friday, November 15th. If you would
like to receive a copy in advance please send me a private email. We
will not discuss the new law on any of the public fora until the comitia
is called into session and contio begins on Friday morning.

Bene valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91858 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-13
Subject: Candidates for Tribunus Plebis
M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus quiritibus Novae Romae salutem dicit.

The Comitia Plebis Tributa has not yet summoned and contio will not
begin until Friday; however, I would like to keep you informed about the
candidates for office.

The following citizens have declared their candidacy for Plebeian
Tribune:

Gaius Claudius Quadratus
Lucius Ulpius Atellus

I have accepted their candidacy, as they meet the requirements for the
offices they seek. Their names will appear on the ballot.

No one has contacted me about the office of Plebeian Aedile. There are
two vacancies and no candidates, which is a shame since the aediles will
almost certainly have the support of a core group of ludi fans who
contribute their time and talents freely.


Between now and 11:59 pm Rome time on Friday, November 15th, I will be
compiling a list of candidates and verifying that those who express
interest meet the requirements to assume office. If you are interested
in becoming either a Plebeian Tribune or a Plebeian Aedile, please send
a private message to caninus@... with following information:


Your Nova Roman name
your age
the office you intend to run for and
whether or not you would like me to take care of your tax payments.


At about 1:00 pm Rome time on November 16th I will announce the final
list of eligible candidates.


Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at
least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian
order, assidui, and at least 21 years of age by the date of taking
office.


Candidates for tribunus plebis must be citizens in good standing, for at
least six full months before taking office, of the plebeian order,
assidui, and at least 25 years of age by the date of taking office.



Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91859 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-14
Subject: Candidates for Tribunus Plebis
M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus quiritibus Novae Romae salutem dicit.

I will summon the Comitia Plebis Tributa at 9:00am Rome Time Friday.
Contio will not begin until then; however, I would like to keep you
informed about the candidates for office.

The following citizens have declared their candidacy for Plebeian
Tribune:

Gaius Claudius Quadratus
Lucius Ulpius Atellus
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

I have accepted their candidacy, as they meet the requirements for the
offices they seek. Their names will appear on the ballot.

No one has contacted me about the office of Plebeian Aedile. There are
two vacancies and no candidates, which is a shame since the aediles will
almost certainly have the support of a core group of ludi fans who
contribute their time and talents freely.

I will be accepting candidates for both offices during the first 48
hours of contio and the list of candidates will be locked at 9:00am Rome
Time on Sunday morning. Between now and then, if you are interested in
becoming either a Plebeian Tribune or a Plebeian Aedile, please send a
private message to caninus@... with following information:

Your Nova Roman name
your age
the office you intend to run for and
whether or not you would like me to take care of your tax payments.

Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at
least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian
order, assidui, and at least 21 years of age by the date of taking
office.

Candidates for tribunus plebis must be citizens in good standing, for at
least six full months before taking office, of the plebeian order,
assidui, and at least 25 years of age by the date of taking office.



Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91860 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Official Summons of the Comitia Plebis Tributa
OFFICIAL SUMMONS OF THE COMITIA PLEBIS TRIBUTA



M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus quiritibusque salutem plurimam dicit:


I call the Comitia Plebis Tributa to order. This Official and Formal
Meeting of the Comitia Plebis Tributa is now commenced under the
authority of, and in compliance with, Lex Pompeia de ratione comitiorum
plebis tributorum
(
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Pompeia_de_ratione_comitiorum_plebis_tributorum_(Nova_Roma)
).


Special Instructions:
Plebeian citizens shall access the Cista and cast their vote on the Nova
Roma website through their Album Civium page. A draft of the proposed
law is included in this notice and is posted on the Nova Roma website.
The finalized text of the proposed law will be posted to the website,
Main List and Nova Roma Announce List at least 24 hours prior to the
close of the Contio.


CALL TO ORDER OF THE COMITIA PLEBIS TRIBUTA
15 November 2013 (2766 AUC)


PRESIDING MAGISTRATE: Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Tribunus Plebis




SCHEDULE:


08:00 AM ROME TIME 15-Nov-2013 : Comitia summoned. Call to order.
09:00 AM ROME TIME 15-Nov-2013 : Contio (debate period) begins.
09:00 AM ROME TIME 17-Nov-2013 : Final list of candidates posted.
09:00 AM ROME TIME 20-Nov-2013 : Contio (debate period) ends.
01:00 PM ROME TIME 20-Nov-2013 : Cista opens. Voting period begins.
09:00 AM ROME TIME 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM ROME TIME 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM ROME TIME 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election
results.




AGENDA:


I. Election of Aediles Plebis for the year 2767 AUC:
2 Seats Available.
No candidates at this time.


II. Election of Tribuni Plebis for the year 2767 AUC:
5 Seats Available.
3 candidates, all qualified, no candidates rejected:
Gaius Claudius Quadratus, 75 years old, meets all legal requirements for
Tribunus Plebis.
Lucius Ulpius Atellus, 31 years old, meets all legal requirements for
Tribunus Plebis.
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, 56 years old, meets all legal requirements
for Tribunus Plebis.


III. Lex Pompeia de de cursu honorum
The full text of the proposed law can be found on the Nova Roma website
at:
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Pompeia_de_cursu_honorum




=========DRAFT=========


Lex Pompeia de cursu honorum




Resolved, in order to establish the minimum eligibility requirements to
serve in those offices specified in Section IV of the Nova Roma
Constitution that are elected by the Comitia Plebis Tributa, we, the
Plebeian citizens of Nova Roma, enact the following:


I. Tribunus Plebis


To run for and assume the office of Tribunus Plebis one must meet all of
these eligibility requirements or a presiding magistrate for such an
election must reject the candidacy:
A. Must be at least 25 years old on the date of assuming office.
B. Must be a current citizen of Nova Roma and must have held such
citizenship continuously for at least 18 months prior to the date of
assuming office.
C. Must be of the plebeian order.
D. Must have previously served at least six months as Quaestor, election
official, Apparitor, or as a scribe to a Tribunus Plebis, Aedilis
Curulis, Praetor, Consul, or Censor.
E. Must hold current assiduus status – i.e., must be current on Nova
Roma tax payments.
F. There shall be no exemption from these eligibility requirements for
Tribunus Plebis.
G. A presiding magistrate for an election in which a candidate for
Tribunus Plebis does not meet the eligibility requirements specified in
I.A-I.E above must reject such candidacy and ensure the individual does
not appear on the ballot. If any candidate is rejected due to such
ineligibility, a presiding magistrate shall state the full Roman name
and the specific reason for the rejection of such a candidacy on the
Main List and any other official fora used to conduct the election
within the first 24 hours of contio.
H. If a write-in candidate should receive enough votes in an election to
win a seat as a Tribunus Plebis but that write-in candidate does not
meet the eligibility requirement specified I.A, I.B, I.C or I.D above
then a presiding magistrate of such an election must reject the write-in
candidate as unqualified for office and the write-in candidate shall not
be permitted to assume office. If such a candidate meets the eligibility
requirements for I.A, I.B, I.C and I.D but fails to meet I.E because he
or she has not paid taxes and is not in assiduus status then the
presiding magistrate shall contact the write-in candidate directly to
determine whether or not the candidate intends to pay taxes and assume
office or wishes to forfeit the office. Such a write-in candidate will
have one week to pay the required taxes and will then be permitted to
assume office. If the taxes are not brought current within one week then
such a write-in candidate shall forfeit the office and the office will
go to the citizen who has the next highest vote total.


II. Aedilis Plebis


To run for and assume the office of Aedilis Plebis one must meet all of
these eligibility requirements or a presiding magistrate for such an
election must reject the candidacy:
A. Must be at least 18 years old on the date of assuming office.
B. Must be a current citizen of Nova Roma and must have held such
citizenship continuously for at least six months prior to the date of
assuming office.
C. Must be of the plebeian order.
D. Must have previously served as a scribe to an Aedilis Plebis or
Aedilis Curulis for six months, including service during at least one
official Nova Roma sponsored ludus.
E. Must hold current assiduus status – i.e., must be current on Nova
Roma tax payments.
F. There shall be no exemption from these eligibility requirements for
Aedilis Plebis.
G. A presiding magistrate for an election in which a candidate for
Aedilis Plebis does not meet the eligibility requirements specified in
II.A-II.E above must reject such candidacy and ensure the individual
does not appear on the ballot. If any candidate is rejected due to such
ineligibility, a presiding magistrate shall state the full Roman name
and the specific reason for the rejection of such a candidacy on the
Main List and any other official fora used to conduct the election
within the first 24 hours of contio.
H. If a write-in candidate should receive enough votes in an election to
win a seat as an Aedilis Plebis but that write-in candidate does not
meet the eligibility requirement specified II.A, II.B, II.C or II.D
above then a presiding magistrate of such an election must reject the
write-in candidate as unqualified for office and the write-in candidate
shall not be permitted to assume office. If such a candidate meets the
eligibility requirements for II.A, II.B, II.C and II.D but fails to meet
II.E because he or she has not paid taxes and is not in assiduus status
then the presiding magistrate shall contact the write-in candidate
directly to determine whether or not the candidate intends to pay taxes
and assume office or wishes to forfeit the office. Such a write-in
candidate will have one week to pay the required taxes and will then be
permitted to assume office. If the taxes are not brought current within
one week then such a write-in candidate shall forfeit the office and the
office will go to the citizen who has the next highest vote total.


III. Plebeian status


If at any time during his or her candidacy for the office of Tribunus
Plebis or Aedilis Plebis a candidate is adopted into a patrician family
or is elevated to the patrician order the presiding magistrate of the
Comitia Plebis Tributa must immediately terminate such candidacy.
Similarly, if a Tribunus Plebis or Aedilis Plebis who is serving in
office is adopted into a patrician family or is elevated to the
patrician order during his or her term of office then he or she shall be
required to step down immediately and the Censores shall ensure an
appropriate entry is made in the citizen’s official record. Any other
Tribunus Plebis serving in office at the time of such a resignation may
call for suffectus candidates and summon the Comitia Plebis Tributa to
conduct an election to fill the vacancy left by the departing tribune or
aedile.


IV. Implementation


This law shall go into effect immediately upon approval by a simple
majority of the tribes voting in the Comitia Plebis Tributa. However,
any citizen holding one of the aforementioned positions at the time of
the passage of this law or listed as an official candidate in a election
for one of the aforementioned positions at the time this law goes into
force shall be exempt from the eligibility requirements stated in
paragraphs I and II for the remainder of his or her term. All candidates
and all elected Tribuni Plebis and Aediles Plebis, regardless of when
their candidacy or term of office started, must maintain plebeian status
as stated in paragraph III as there shall be no relief, remedy,
exemption or grandfathering for the provisions of paragraph III of this
law.




======END OF DRAFT======






Optime valete!


Respectfully submitted:


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
15 November 2013 (2766 AUC)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91861 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
Salvete plebes in foro!

One comment I received during an early review with the Consul's staff was that the experience requirements, especially for Aedilis Plebis, could be reduced. The current experience require is simply that a candidate be a full citizen for at least six months. I would like to know if how you feel about this. Should the requirements read something like this?

I. Tribunus Plebis
D. Must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least six months (180 days) prior to the date of assuming office. 

II. Aedilis Plebis
D. Must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least six months (180 days) prior to the date of assuming office. 

Optime valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91862 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Nova Roma website unreachable
Caninus Quiritibus sal.

The Nova Roma website has been unreachable for the last eight hours. I have made a number of attempts to contact our provider to learn what measures are being taken to restore service and to get an estimate on when we might have full access restored. At this time I have no further information. Our provider has not yet responded to any of my messages. I will post updates throughout the day until service is fully resolved.

Bene valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91863 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: Nova Roma website unreachable

Caeca Caninus Sal!

 

Are we still located in Sweden, or have we migrated to our new home, yet? Thanks, not, I suppose, that it matters much where we are …we aren’t on the web J.

 

Valete bene!

C. Maria Caeca

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91864 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: Nova Roma website unreachable

 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91865 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
Salvete omnes!

My suggestion that the experience requirement be reduced was only with respect to the position of Aedilis Plebis.  I see no problem leaving the requirement for Tribunus Plebis as stated in the proposed law.

The reason for my suggestion is that I believe the proposed experience requirement for Aedilis Plebis is so restrictive that it will be be very difficult to have qualified candidates and, as we see now, it already is hard to find citizens willing to stand for that position.  At the least, I suggest that the experience requirement be waived as a matter of discretion.  Here is some suggested text:

II. Aedilis Plebis

D. Must have previously served as a scribe to an Aedilis Plebis or
Aedilis Curulis for six months, including service during at least one
official Nova Roma sponsored ludus.  This requirement may be
waived by the presiding magistrate.


F. There shall be no exemption from these eligibility requirements for
Aedilis Plebis, except as noted above in II.D.

Valete!

Quadratus




To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com; NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com; BackAlley@yahoogroups.com; comitiaplebistributa@yahoogroups.com
From: caninus@...
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:52:35 -0700
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum

 

Salvete plebes in foro!

One comment I received during an early review with the Consul's staff was that the experience requirements, especially for Aedilis Plebis, could be reduced. The current experience require is simply that a candidate be a full citizen for at least six months. I would like to know if how you feel about this. Should the requirements read something like this?

I. Tribunus Plebis
D. Must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least six months (180 days) prior to the date of assuming office. 

II. Aedilis Plebis
D. Must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least six months (180 days) prior to the date of assuming office. 

Optime valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91866 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Re: [Nova_roma_] RE: [Nova-Roma] Nova Roma website unreachable
Caninus Caecae sal.

Amica, Nova Roma has two servers with Fredrik in Sweden. The original server, which is shared with other clients, and a dedicated server to assist with migration to a US-based server. I am still working on the clean up and migration. The original server has our live data and web pages, so when you go to www.novarome.org you are still connecting to the same server we have had since 2010. Fredrik experienced a prolonged power outage, which caused both servers to go offline until power was restored. 

Please let me know if you run into any glitches or trouble with anything on the server. Power failures can sometimes cause obscure problems that are not immediately detectable. 

Fac valeas!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91867 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Call for Candidates - LAST DAY
Avete Omnes,

It is now the last day to contact me about intent to run for office.

In 4 hours (6 pm Arizona Time), I will close the call for candidates.

If you are interested to run for office you must email me @ robert.woolwine@....  In your message I need the following information:

Your Roman name
Your Age
The office you intend to run for.

The offices available are:

Censor - 1 vacancy
Consul - 2 vacancies
Praetors - 2 vacancies
Curule Aedile - 2 vacancies
Quaestor - 8 vacancies

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91868 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Update on candidates for plebeian offices
M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus Novae Romae salutem dicit.

We have already passed the first 12 hours of the contio for this session
of the Comitia Plebis Tributa. I am very happy to report we now have one
candidate for Aedilis Plebis.

The following citizens have declared their candidacy for Plebeian
Tribune:

Gaius Claudius Quadratus, citizen since 2012-08-04, living in Canada
Orientalis
Lucius Ulpius Atellus, citizen since 2013-03-17, living in America
Austrorientalis
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, citizen since 2002-01-21, living in
Mediatlantica

The following citizens have declared their candidacy for Plebeian
Aedile:

Tiberius Iulius Nerva, citizen since 2011-08-02, living in Pannonia

I have accepted the candidacy of all of the citizens listed above, as
they meet the requirements for the offices they seek. Their names will
appear on the ballot.

We still do not have enough candidates to fill all of the open seats.
There are still two open seats for Tribunus Plebis and one open seat for
Aedilis Plebis. I will be accepting candidates for both offices during
the first 48 hours of contio and the list of candidates will be locked
at 9:00am Rome Time on Sunday morning. Between now and then, if you are
interested in becoming either a Plebeian Tribune or a Plebeian Aedile,
please send a private message to caninus@... with following
information:

Your Nova Roman name
your age
the office you intend to run for and
whether or not you would like me to take care of your tax payments.

Candidates for aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at
least six full months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian
order, assiduus, and at least 21 years of age by the date of taking
office.

Candidates for tribunus plebis must be citizens in good standing, for at
least six full months before taking office, of the plebeian order,
assiduus, and at least 25 years of age by the date of taking office.



Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91869 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Call for Candidates is CLOSED
Avete Omnes,

The period of the call for candidates is closed.

I will be preparing the announcement for the candidates and offices this evening.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91870 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Ti. Galerius Paulinus for Tribuni Plebis
Salvete Romans,
 
As  my candidacy has been accepted I  wanted to publicly  request your support for the office of Tribune of the Plebs.
 
I have had the honor of serving as Tribune  on two past occasions and would request that you grant me the honor of serving again.
 
I would also like to request that more Plebeians stand for office in general but our Plebeian office in particular. We need at least two
more candidates for Tribune and  at least one for Aedilis Plebis.
 
 
Thank  you for your consideration.
 
Valete,
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus 
Censor et Senator
Candidate for Tribune of the Plebs 

 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91871 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-15
Subject: Candidate Annoucements
Avete Omnes,

It is my sincere pleasure to disclose the list of candidates and the offices that they are seeking to be elected.

The first election will be the Comitia Populi Tributa which I plan on summoning on November 20th

The final election will be the Comitia Centuriata which I plan on summoning on/around December 5th.

For Censor: Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

For Consul: Gaius Aemilius Crassus
For Consul:  Statia Cornelia Valeriana Juliana Aeternia

For Praetor: Marcus Pompeius Caninus
For Praetor: Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus

For Curule Aedile:  Lucius Vitellius Triarius

For Quaestor:  Gaius Decius Laterensis
For Quaestor:  Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus

I would like to thank each of the individuals for volunteering to lead Nova Roma next year and wish each of them the very best luck.  While the election of the individuals are essentially a formality the participation of the People is vital in electing them to their offices.  Also, given that last year Nova Roma did not field a full compliment of magistrates, this coming year is a clear improvement that Nova Roma's continued positive growth will continue under the guidance of these capable individuals.

Most Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91872 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: (no subject)
Cn. Iulius Caesar censor sal.

It is with great pleasure I announce that as of today Pompeia  Minucia Strabo has her citizenship restored, as well as her senatorial status. Po brings a wealth of experience to the Senate, a former governor, praetor and consul, as well as that well known sharp mind, wit, and a good dose of common sense, practicality and moderation. 

On a personal level I am very glad to see my friend back among us once more!

Optime valete


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91873 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Avete!
 
Welcome Back!   GO PO!!!
 
Valete!
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS

Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 
~ L. Annaeus Seneca

































































On Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:39 AM, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...  
Cn. Iulius Caesar censor sal.

It is with great pleasure I announce that as of today Pompeia  Minucia Strabo has her citizenship restored, as well as her senatorial status. Po brings a wealth of experience to the Senate, a former governor, praetor and consul, as well as that well known sharp mind, wit, and a good dose of common sense, practicality and moderation. 

On a personal level I am very glad to see my friend back among us once more!

Optime valete




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91874 From: miguelkelly15 Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salve Amice,

This is indeed great news to greet the morning; I'm glad to see her back.

QSP



Quoting Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91875 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salvete,
 
I would like to echo the sentiments of  my colleague and welcome back
Pompeia Minucia Strabo to both Nova Roma and the Senate.
 
You have been away much to long and we look forward to your active
contributions to the republic. 
 
Welcome back Po!
 
Valete
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus 
 

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: mjk@...
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:38:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] (unknown)

 
Salve Amice,

This is indeed great news to greet the morning; I'm glad to see her back.

QSP

Quoting Gnaeus Iulius Caesar <gn_iulius_caesar@...
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91876 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Ave!

Yes, a wonderful day!  This is just outstanding!  Welcome Back Po...you have been sorely missed.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91877 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
Caninus plebibus in foro spd.


The draft version of the lex Pompeia de cursu honorum can be read at
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Pompeia_de_cursu_honorum

I have refined the experience requirement based on discussion here and
with the Consular staff. I believe this change makes the requirement
much clearer. This requirement is the same for both offices. Let me know
what you think.

I. Tribunus Plebis
D. Must have previously served at least six months as an Apparitor,
Provincial Governor, Senator, or as any elected official as defined in
Section IV of the Nova Roma Constitution.

Ii. Aedilis Plebis
D. Must have previously served at least six months as an Apparitor,
Provincial Governor, Senator, or as any elected official as defined in
Section IV of the Nova Roma Constitution.


Bene valete!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.





-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Draft comments for lex Pompeia de cursu honorum
From: "M. Pompeius Caninus" <caninus@... Date: Thu, November 14, 2013 11:52 pm
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Announce Nova Roma"
<NovaRoma-Announce@yahoogroups.com <BackAlley@yahoogroups.com
Salvete plebes in foro!


One comment I received during an early review with the Consul's staff
was that the experience requirements, especially for Aedilis Plebis,
could be reduced. The current experience require is simply that a
candidate be a full citizen for at least six months. I would like to
know if how you feel about this. Should the requirements read something
like this?


I. Tribunus Plebis
D. Must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least six months (180
days) prior to the date of assuming office.


II. Aedilis Plebis
D. Must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least six months (180
days) prior to the date of assuming office.


Optime valete!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.


I. Tribunus Plebis

D. Must have previously served at least six months as Quaestor,
election
official, Apparitor, or as a scribe to a Tribunus Plebis, Aedilis
Curulis, Praetor, Consul, or Censor.

II. Aedilis Plebis

D. Must have previously served as a scribe to an Aedilis Plebis or
Aedilis Curulis for six months, including service during at least one
official Nova Roma sponsored ludus.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91878 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Laterensis for Quaestor

C. Decius Laterensis omnibus S.P.D.

For those who don't know me, my name is Gaius Decius Laterensis. I am a candidate for Quaestor for 2767 AUC. I have been a citizen of Nova Roma since July of 2764. From January until the end of October this year, I served Nova Roma as a Diribitor, helping to ensure that everyone's vote was counted and elections proceeded smoothly. I am also currently serving as the Provincial Governor of the US state of Ohio, as well as serving the public Cultus Deorum as Sacerdos Martialis. I ask for the support and votes of my fellow Nova Romans in the upcoming elections so that I can continue my service to the Senate and People of Nova Roma.

Di vos incolumes custodiant!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91879 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Candidate for Censor - Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Avete Omnes,

My name is Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, I am the Current Consul of Nova Roma - whose term is ending in about 6 weeks.  I am also currently CFO as well.  

I come before you to seek your vote for Censor of Nova Roma.  I have the following background that I believe will serve as an asset to the position:

I have been Censor previously, I was the first person in Nova Roma to complete the full term as Censor, I was held the position twice, the second time as Suffect.  Over the course of this year a number of laws have been drafted by my staff and I.  They were successfully promulgated and it would be a good starting point to have someone intimately familiar with the legislation to ensure proper implementation.  Finally, when I held the Censorship previously I drafted the Censor handbook which has been an asset to other Censores. I would like to improve and update the original handbook that will assist future Censores taking into account the Corporation requirements and the legislative changes that have an impact on the position.

My other experience in Nova Roma that will enhance my resume include:

Consul for 3 times in Nova Roma's history.
Been a Senator of long standing (Nearly 10 years in total)
Held the positions of Praetor Urbanus, Quaestor, and am currently a member of the Comitia Curiata

One of my primary strengths is that I am usually very prompt in my response time to emails.  I do believe in assisting prospective and new citizens and to give them the tools, including appropriate links to find answers to their questions.  I am a strong believer in an elected magistrate doing the preponderance of the work, since the magistrate is the one actually elected to the office.  As a matter of fact, my staff this year as Consul - has been the largest staff I have ever utilized and it was an amazing experience - one that has shown me that there are clear benefits to having a sizable staff given the interactions we had and the results generated.  

Finally, I seek your vote for two fundamental reasons.  First, I care about Nova Roma's success and growth.  I devoted this entire year to ensure and shore up the foundation of Nova Roma.   Much like when I ran for Consul, the linkage of the CFO and Consul worked hand in hand while Nova Roma was being audited as it gave me an advantage in dealing with the IRS, legislating some of the recommendations they suggested and ensuring the Corporation met all compliance related issues.  Second, as Censor and CFO I will be in the best position to ensure that prospective and pending members are fully aware of the tax, answer questions covering those subjects and enhancing Nova Roma's administrative ability to maximize our potential as the Consuls work to meet their province of activity given one of those activities is to contact non-assidui citizens.

Thank you for your time in reading this message, thank you for your participation and thank you for your vote.

Most Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul of Nova Roma

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91880 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-16
Subject: Re: (unknown)
Salvete,

Welcome back our most dearest Pompeia.

Valete Optime,
Aeternia 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91881 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Plebeian Elections - Final List of Candidates
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:


We have completed the first 48 hours of the contio and the call for
candidates is official closed in accordance with lex Pompeia de ratione
comitiorum plebis tributorum paragraph III.C.


I strongly encourage all plebeian citizens, whether tax payers or not,
to participate in discussion and debate, which shall continue until
9:00am Rome Time on Wednesday, November 20th. All plebeians have a right
to have their opinions heard as well as have their vote counted. Please
use this time to address the candidates with any questions or concerns
you may have. Also, please share any recommendations or reservations you
may have the rest of us in the fora. The schedule for the remainder of
this session of the Comitia Plebis Tributa is as follows:

09:00 AM CET 20-Nov-2013 : Contio (debate period) ends.
01:00 PM CET 20-Nov-2013 : Cista opens. Voting period begins.
09:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM CET 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election results.


The final list of candidates who will be listed on the ballot are:


Tribunus Plebis:
Gaius Claudius Quadratus
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Lucius Ulpius Atellus


Aedilis Plebis:
Tiberius Iulius Nerva


Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91882 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Elections
Salvete omnibus in foro!

I urge all citizens to participate in the upcoming elections.  By voting, we demonstrate our support of Nova Roma and encourage those who volunteer to serve.

As a candidate for office (Tribunus Plebis) I would be pleased to answer any questions directed to me.  I have no particular platform or agenda other than to act in the best interests of the Respublica, and to promote activity within Canada Citerior.

Valete!

C. Claudius Quadratus
Augur
Procurator, Provincia Canada Citerior
Staff Member to the Consul
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91883 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: M Pompeius Caninus - Candidate for Praetor
Salvete Citizens of Nova Roma!

I come before you today to request your vote as I seek the office of
Praetor of our Res Publica.

I am currently serving as Tribunus Plebis. I am also a member of the
Consul's staff, a provincial governor and I was very recently sublected
to the Senate. I am a technical manager with a strong background in
policy development, information security and project management.

You can view my Nova Roma biographical page at: Marcus Pompeius Caninus

I hope to continue serving you as a guardian of justice and free speach
in the official fora with Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus as my
colleague.

If elected Praetor I will perform all the duties of my office according
to the best of my abilities and understanding and in full compliance
with the Constitution and laws of Nova Roma.

Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis et Senator
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91884 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: M Pompeius Caninus - Candidate for Praetor
Salvete Quiritibus in foro!

You can view the candidates on the Nova Roma site.

Bene valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91885 From: scipiosecond Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus - Candidacy for Quaestor

Ave Omne,

 

I am a candidate for Quaestor in the upcoming election.   Because I am relatively new to Nova Roma, I thought to introduce myself.    I am educated as an attorney and hold a Juris Doctor degree.  I am currently a  candidate for a Master of Arts degree in history and political science.   A retired Lt. Colonel of the U.S. Army, I have practiced law both as a military and civilian attorney for some forty years.   I have been teaching at the undergraduate and graduate levels in universities and colleges for thirty-five years.  Married, I have seven children and stepchildren.

 

A founder of Legio XIII Gemina, a legion sponsored by Nova Roma, I serve as Praefectus Legionis.   Within Nova Roma I hold the following appointed positions: Apparitores to Consul L. Cornelius Sulla Felix; Legatus Legionis of Nova Roma; Legatus Proconsulis Miltaris of Americas Austroccidentalis; and, honorary Praefectus Auxila in Sodalitas Militarium.

 

While I have no platform per se, I do intend to serve Nova Roma as best as I can.   I would greatly appreciate your vote.

 

Vale optime,

 

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus

 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91886 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: L Vitellius Triarius - Candidate for Aedilis curulis
 
L. Vitellius Triarius omnibus S.P.D.!
 
Fellow citizens. I am Lucius of the Vitellii, called Triarius, and I stand again before you in the toga candida to address you and present my candidacy for the office of Aedilis curulis (aka Curule Aedile) for the upcoming year, MMDCCLXVII A•V•C (2014 CE/2767 a.u.c.).
 
I joined Nova Roma on January 25, 2005, and became an Assiduus member of Gens Vitellia. I am currently an Assiduus and of the Plebeian order. I have served in several different positions and have made many personal contributions to the advancement of Nova Roma:
 
* I have served many years as a Legate Legati pro praetoris as the Preafectus Regio of the Tennessee Regio of my former home, Provincia America Austrorientalis (Southeast USA).  
* I served as an appointed member of the central planning team of the Go Roman Project, where I worked many long hours helping design and develop the foundation guidelines, policies and marketing/promotional materials for the international outreach program.  
* I served as provincial webmaster until the transformation of the old Nova Roma website to the new wiki, and now currently assist with updates and site management of the wiki.  
* I have assisted in promoting dialogues with other Roman organizations, which will hopefully lead to the recruitment of many new cives to our Respublica in the years to come.  
* I have formed and moderated several Nova Roma newsgroups.
* I am the creator and Dominus praefectus of the Roman online community, Mons Aventinus Wiki (monsaventinus.wikia.com), a non-government free-edit site for Nova Roman citizens.  
* I served as Quaestor to Adilis Curulis, P. Memmius Albucius, during the 10th Year Celebration of Nova Roma. 
* I am the current Dominus factionis for Factio Veneta, the Blues, one of Nova Roma’s virtual chariot teams, for the second time.  
* I was recently appointed to the honorable position of Senator of Nova Roma.
* I was recently appointed by the Senate as the Governor of one of the newly-created provinces.
 
While none of this is particularly or nearly as important as the fact that I have seen a lot of change over the past eight years.  Nova Roma, like every other organization, experiences periods of upswing and downswing as they progress along.  I have seen both.  We are currently on the upswing again.  Success at anything is not a gently-inclining straight line on a graph; it is an upward-trending sine wave of highs and lows and highs and lows. If you blow out the top or fall out the bottom of any of the curves, you fail. You have to ride the ups and downs of the curve as it progresses upward without falling or being slung off.
 
There have been many recent positive changes in NR with more to come.  Many people are not comfortable with change, but change is inevitable, always, either by choice or attrition. I come seeking your vote based on the idea of continued prosperity and success of the Respublica though positive change.  I have served in the President’s seat of several macronational non-profit organizations, and I am not afraid to make the necessary changes in the Curule Aediles’ Office with my companion, if and when elected. 
 
There are several items that I will place with priority on the agenda of "City Hall."  I will awork with the Plebeian Aedile(s) and other magistrates to see that these measures succeed:
 
1. We will see a reopening of the Macellum to generate much needed funds for the Respublica with market stalls for cives, non-cives, and some state-owned venues.
 
2. There will be an expansion of the Macellum to include modern products and services for our citizens in addition to traditional Roman wares.  Most people today use more computer accessories, electronic goods, and other modern conveniences than they do terra cotta olive oil lamps and wax tablets. If you were able to go back to Trajan’s Market and shop, you would find goods of the day, not just ancient Sumerian, Greek and Egyptian artifacts.  Those, if any, would be found in individual vendor stalls. We will not exclude any goods or services a citizen has to offer, unless there is a reasonably justifiable cause to exclude.
 
3.   We will work with the Office of the CFO to increase revenues to lower taxes and improve assidui citizenship numbers.
 
4.  We will work with the Office of the Aediles plebis on improving how the various festivals and Ludi will be presented to improve interest and participation rates.
 
5. We will work with the Office of the CFO to provide citizens with tangible rewards for active participation within the Respublica, both online and offline activities, events and projects.
 
6.  We will work toward the promotion and development of the Legion Fund to support our active sponsored reenactment groups and living history societies and promote our organization to the world.
 
7.  We will reestablish the Aedilician Fund, with revenue-producing resources, to improve the internal infrastructure of the Respublica, as well as provide new services to our citizens.
 
8.  We will begin the planning and development stages leading to our own media network to include generating revenues from advertising on the network.
 
9.  We will provide new guidance media for new members to instruct them on what to do in Nova Roma once they become a citizen.

10. We will begin the planning and development stages for an online youth sodalitas to address the needs of the youth in our families, based on the Roman Virtues.
 
11.  We will begin the planning and development stages for minting coinage annually, through the development and implementation of a self-sustaining program to make this a possibility.
 
12. We will work to reestablish a state-sponsored academic institution, which will consist primarily of self-paced courses with both written and video resources prepared and approved by an academic staff, proficient in their field(s) of study, to educate citizens and non-citizens alike on Roman Society, ancient and modern.
 
13. We will NOT get all of these up and running in one year, but we will surely do our best to get them started and as far along as we can. 
 
I believe in openness, speaking the truth, bringing problems out in the open, and not skirting the issues. I pledge to act in fairness in all of my duties and to respond to citizen requests promptly and efficiently. My opinions and beliefs are rooted in the concepts of personal integrity, political freedom, and religious tolerance.
 
In 2009, I was forced to take a medical hiatus for severe autoimmune diabetes from Nova Roma and many other things, but my health is recovering and I have recently returned to serve the Res publica again.
 
As one of your Curule aediles, I will work diligently with other citizens to help improve our Res publica as we all progress along this journey ahead. No plodding around is acceptable-we must drive forward!  Fredrick the Great said, “L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace!”  I say we adopt the motto, “Audacia, audacia, audaica semper!”
I ask that you support and cast your votes for me, Lucius Vitellius Triarius, as Curule Aedile for the year 2767 a.u.c. (2014).
 
I ask Pater Mars and Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, patron deities of my Gens, to look favorably upon me in my journey and quest, and ask for their guidance and assistance in helping you, my friends, in making your choice in electing me as one of your new Aediles.
 
P.S.  Please find attached an election bumper sticker for your chariot!
  
Respectfully Submitted and in Your Service,
 
Optime valete,
 
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS 
Aedilis curulis candidatus
 
 
Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 
~ L. Annaeus Seneca 


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91887 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
 
Salvete omnes,
 
Several months ago, a discussion was begun on the topic of creating a handbook for new cultors of the religio.
 
As promised, I have written the Religio Romana Handbook, as well as another book, Meditations on the Roman Deities.
 
Both were "officially published" yesterday.  I intend to enter these in the Macellum, when reopened, to serve as a continual fundraiser for NR.  When you purchase either book, you build the Treasury of Nova Roma.
 
DISCLAIMER: It "borrows" heavily from the NR wiki, and I do not claim, inside or out of NR, that it is an original work. It is a compilation of our works over the years in one physical book. Yes, I will be keeping a small portion of the royalties, as I am the one legally responsible to the printing company, should someone get greedy, testy and sue for using their work that they posted in an open public forum and did not copyright.
 
If you would like to help us in this fundraising effort with an addition to your personal library, a gift to a friend, presentation to your local library or book club, or whatever, you may view and purchase them directly from the printer's website today:
 
Religio Romana Handbook
 
Meditations on the Roman Deities
 
They are scheduled to be available on Amazon and Kindle worldwide in 5-7 days, and available through the expanded markets (bookstores, online retailers, libraries, and academic institutions) globally in 6-8 weeks.
 
The Kindle versions are $9.99 US each and the paperback copies are $19.95 US (12,49 GBP or 14,88 EUR) and $17.95 US (12,49 GBP or 14,88 EUR), with the equivalent pricing in markets outside the US, UK & Europe.  The production costs are $10.00+ on each book, so in order for us to generate any reasonable funds, there can be no price break...it is a fundraiser.  I have tried to price them where they are affordable and in line with the prices of other similar books in my library.
 
Before you spend all your money on Black Friday and Cyber Monday, remember the Res publica and consider these books as Saturnalia/Christmas presents.
Optime valete,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS

Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 
~ L. Annaeus Seneca































































Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91888 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Salve Triarius et Salvete Omnes,

Wow this is an impressive endeavor!  You are going to seriously have to share how you found the time to write a book so quickly!  Share the knowledge please.

Valete bene,
Aeternia


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91889 From: lvtriarius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius

 

Salve et salvete,

 

Certainly.  It is generally a reference book, compiling the main contents of the religio section of the wiki and some other supplemental sources.  It brings the highlights of the wiki together in book form, for those who prefer books over surfing wikis or don't/can't carry a mobile device around to read.

 

Having lots of personal notes, being creative, NR having a need, NR having source material, and being currently unemployed with hoards of free time...basically, that's it.

 

Also, Amazon, through its subsidiary company, createspace.com, has simplified the process so much that anyone can now publish a book relatively easy and quick.  They have the word templates, cover creator, global Amazon and other marketing channels, etc. I think probably your cat could now publish a book through them. I've written two books for other organizations just in the last month, and will be publishing them this coming week.

 
Problem is, I just received an upsetting email that they are refusing to publish the Kindle versions, because they contain information they have determined that is in the "public domain." Basically, Amazon retains the Kindle rights to anything that they can "determine" is in the public domain.  These are the free books in the Kindle Store. They've cornered the market in this arena, because they own this arena.
 
It is inconvenient, but understandable, otherwise they could possibly have 600,000 duplicate versions of Scott's Ivanhoe on their e-shelf.
 
But, if you are interested in book publishing, go to createspace.com, sign up for free, and you can be working on your next book 5 minutes from now.  The great thing about it is that books are printed and shipped when they are ordered, so you have ZERO out-of-pocket expenses-no requirements to pre-buy 100s of copies before product, launch, etc.
 
For one, Marcus Audens should start a new Roman Engineering series immediately.
 
Vale et valete,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS

Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 
~ L. Annaeus Seneca


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91890 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Ave!

I have a couple of questions if you do not mind me asking.

1. Did you have an editor assist you in this process?  Did you have any artists assist you in creating graphics/illustrations?  Do you have any photos or pictures that you used?

2.  How hard was it to self publish?

3.  How much of the information was original content?  How did you verify the sources that you used in the work?  Did you rely on primary or secondary source material?  How much of the work is speculation?  Do you have some kind of disclaimer alert to disclose that to the reader?

4.  How much, if any input, did you receive from the Religious Colleges within Nova Roma?

Thank you for letting me ask you these questions.

Most Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91891 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-17
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
Avete,
 
paperback version of the highlights of the religio section of the wiki.
 
Handbook)
This work is a compilation of writings, articles, opinions and beliefs from many practitioners of the Religio Romana in Nova Roma, the global Roman Reconstruction effort in our modern age. It has been compiled to assist those interested in learning more about the Cultus Deorum Romanum and related Roman culture, both ancient and modern, and has been designed to be of practical use by the religio practitioner and reference guide for the non-practitioner. Special thanks goes out to the members of the Collegium Pontificum, practitioners of the Cultus Deorum Romanum, and Members of the Senate of Nova Roma for their support and assistance in this project.
 
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (Meditations)
This work is a reference guide of information about the gods and goddesses of Rome for practitioners of the Religio Romana, both for members of Nova Roma, the global Roman Reconstruction effort in our modern age, and those who have not found us yet. It has been compiled to assist those interested in learning more about the Cultus Deorum Romanum and related Roman culture, both ancient and modern, and has been designed to be of practical use by the religio practitioner and reference guide for the non-practitioner.  Special thanks goes out to the members of the Collegia Pontificum and Augurum, practitioners of the Cultus Deorum Romanum, and Members of the Senate of Nova Roma for their support and assistance in this project.
Just today, there is a discussion on this list about the difficulties of traversing the wiki.  These books put everything together in an indexed form for the practitioner or for use as a reference guide on the religio.  This was the reason for the discussion a few months ago.  Many people do not understand the "ways of the wiki" and find it hard to locate information. These books provide them with an easy-to-read, physical version of the main points in the religio section of the wiki, put together in a professional format and printed professionally. It's good stuff for us, as anyone can create a PDF. This gives us a credible resource as they are books in print, which are now entered in the marketing channels to bookstores, online retailers, libraries, and academic institutions.
 
This is not a personal endeavor.  It is a presentation of our information in an alternate format to be used as a fundraiser. We could have created a PDF and posted it for free on the wiki, but we would have missed millions of views on Amazon that would never have found our little wiki...ever.
 
Valete,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS

Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 
~ L. Annaeus Seneca

































































On Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:15 PM, Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...  
Ave!

I have a couple of questions if you do not mind me asking.

1. Did you have an editor assist you in this process?  Did you have any artists assist you in creating graphics/illustrations?  Do you have any photos or pictures that you used?

2.  How hard was it to self publish?

3.  How much of the information was original content?  How did you verify the sources that you used in the work?  Did you rely on primary or secondary source material?  How much of the work is speculation?  Do you have some kind of disclaimer alert to disclose that to the reader?

4.  How much, if any input, did you receive from the Religious Colleges within Nova Roma?

Thank you for letting me ask you these questions.

Most Respectfully,

Sulla


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, <lvtriarius@...



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91892 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Why do we need a new law for plebeian office requirements?
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:


There may be a question about why Nova Roma needs a new law to specify
requirements for plebeian offices.

The reason is Nova Roma currently has no law in effect that specifies
the requirements. A couple of months ago the lex Cornelia de cursu
honorum was passed. That lex repealed:

http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Iunia_de_Magistratuum_aetate_(Nova_Roma)
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Vedia_de_cursu_honorum_(Nova_Roma)

And since the lex Cornelia de cursu honorum specifies requirements only
for those offices elected by the Comitia Centuriata and Comitia Populi
Tributa and purposely avoids specifying requirements for those offices
elected by the Comitia Plebis Tributa, we need a new law. It makes sense
that the new law will be voted on only by plebeian citizens since it
will affect only plebeian candidates. So please take some time to read
the law, ask questions, express your opinions and concerns in the fora
and, above all, vote once the Cista is opened for the election on
Wednesday. The voting period will run for about a week.

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91893 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Omen of Co-Existence
Salvete, omnibus in foro!

Just outside my back porch is the pine tree home of a large flock of birds.  They've been there for the past two years.  On the porch is a bird feeder with six perches that, this morning, was constantly (and noisily) occupied.  Within five feet were sitting four hungry cats waiting patiently to be fed.  They ignored the birds; the birds showed no fear of the cats.  I've never before seen this degree of space-sharing between the species.  A favorable omen that just happened to occur during our election season!

Valete!
C. Claudius Quadratus
Augur
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91894 From: Lucius Vitellius Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Ave Quadratus!
 
I am afraid, my friend, that you have mistakenly interpreted this good and fortunate omen.  Sadly, it is not about the election....
 
It is an indicator that Sulla should mail the cat to you, so that your cats could spend some quality therapy time with him, rehabilitate him and let him come to understand the ways of peace and patience and tolerance...LOL!  They could also serve as lictors pro Tempore during his hiatus!
 
Vale,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS

Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 

~ L. Annaeus Seneca


On Monday, November 18, 2013 9:45 AM, "charlesaronowitz@..." <charlesaronowitz@...  
Salvete, omnibus in foro!

Just outside my back porch is the pine tree home of a large flock of birds.  They've been there for the past two years.  On the porch is a bird feeder with six perches that, this morning, was constantly (and noisily) occupied.  Within five feet were sitting four hungry cats waiting patiently to be fed.  They ignored the birds; the birds showed no fear of the cats.  I've never before seen this degree of space-sharing between the species.  A favorable omen that just happened to occur during our election season!

Valete!
C. Claudius Quadratus
Augur


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91895 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Ave Triari!

I could have sworn that Quadratus did, in fact, observe an omen of co-existence, related, perhaps, to Nova Roma and a certain Sertorial Organization? 

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91896 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Salve, Triari!

I would be happy to minister to Sulla's cat but I don't suggest putting added stress on the U.S.P.S.  It might be the last straw.

Vale!
Quadratus

P.S.  I mailed a calendar to you earlier today.


To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: lvtriarius@...
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 07:51:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Omen of Co-Existence

 

Ave Quadratus!
 
I am afraid, my friend, that you have mistakenly interpreted this good and fortunate omen.  Sadly, it is not about the election....
 
It is an indicator that Sulla should mail the cat to you, so that your cats could spend some quality therapy time with him, rehabilitate him and let him come to understand the ways of peace and patience and tolerance...LOL!  They could also serve as lictors pro Tempore during his hiatus!
 
Vale,
 
L VITELLIVS TRIARIVS

Citizen of Nova Roma
Dominus praefectus of Factio Veneta
Senator of Nova Roma
Governor of New Province to be Renamed (LOL)
Wikiworker extraordinaire 

"Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu." 

(The important thing isn't how long you live, but how well you live) 

~ L. Annaeus Seneca


On Monday, November 18, 2013 9:45 AM, "charlesaronowitz@..." <charlesaronowitz@...  
Salvete, omnibus in foro!

Just outside my back porch is the pine tree home of a large flock of birds.  They've been there for the past two years.  On the porch is a bird feeder with six perches that, this morning, was constantly (and noisily) occupied.  Within five feet were sitting four hungry cats waiting patiently to be fed.  They ignored the birds; the birds showed no fear of the cats.  I've never before seen this degree of space-sharing between the species.  A favorable omen that just happened to occur during our election season!

Valete!
C. Claudius Quadratus
Augur



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91897 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: Omen of Co-Existence
Ave

I would with all due respect hope not.  Nova roma has finally reached a point of full recovery from the civil war period and the last thing our organization needs to do is to reintroduce those elements back into the mix.  The sertorian organization serves it's own purpose - separate and apart from nova roma.  Let us not forget that one of their group referred nr to be audited by the irs.  We should not forget the recent past as much as we should not forget the ancients.

Respectfully,

Sulla  

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "M. Pompeius Caninus"
Date:11/18/2013 11:57 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Omen of Co-Existence

 

Ave Triari!

I could have sworn that Quadratus did, in fact, observe an omen of co-existence, related, perhaps, to Nova Roma and a certain Sertorial Organization? 

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91898 From: Gaius Tullius Valerianus Date: 2013-11-18
Subject: Re: (unknown)
C. Tullius Valerianus Germanicus omnibus S.P.D.
 
This is great news! I am very glad to hear that! Welcome back, Po!





--
Gaius Tullius Valerianus
 
Augur of Nova Roma
Lictor Curiatus of Nova Roma
Tribunus Plebis of Nova Roma
Proconsul of America Austroccidentalis
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91899 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-19
Subject: Plebeian Elections
C. Aemilius Crassus omnibus SPD,

I have been extremely busy outside Nova Roma so I haven't had the opportunity to participate as much as I would like. I'm now catching up and since this contio is about to end I would like to say that I support and vote for all citizens that presented themselves to the Plebian elections. 

I have seen Quadratus dedication and participation in Nova Roma and I'm very glad to see him running for Tribunus. 

Senator Paulinus is known by all and his curriculum in Nova Roma speaks for itself so I'm very glad to see him running for Tribunus.

I know less about Atellus or Nerva, my fault and loss I'm sure, but I thank them to offer their time and energy to work for Nova Roma.

I would like to ask all Plebian citizens to cast their votes on this upcoming elections.

Vale optime,
Crassus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91900 From: Q Caecilius Metellus Date: 2013-11-19
Subject: Write-in Candidacy: Q Caecilius Metellus for Tribune of the Plebs
Q Caecilius Metellus Postumianus sends greetings to All!

Having considered it over the past several months, and in consideration of all that is involved in it, I come to you today to offer myself as a candidate for the post of Tribune of the Plebs. For this year, I previously declined the post, in light of both my then-current situation and the result of my personal auspices; both of these are now favourable to my taking on the responsibilities of the office.

Without spending a great deal of time on the subject, I can say unreservedly that I both meet the legal requirements of the position and have the knowledge of our laws and experience in our organisation to execute the duties of the office, and if so elected, will do all that can be done to see that our laws are upheld.

In my view, elections conducted by write-in are the most reflective of the will of the electorate, which is why I refrained from announcing myself to be formally listed on the ballot. Yet I am willing and able, and it would be my privilege and honour, to serve you as Tribune of the Plebs.

To that end, I ask for your votes. I ask for the opportunity to serve you as Tribune of the Plebs.

Quintus Caecilius Metellus Postumianus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91901 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-19
Subject: Election Update
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Election_MMDCCLXVI_(Nova_Roma)

I have added Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus as a write-in
candidate on the official Election MMDCCLXVI page on the Wiki. If any
other write-in campaigns are publically announced in the official fora I
will add those candidates as well. The official Election MMDCCLXVI page
is for all offices not just those elected by the plebeian citizens so if
any candidates for any office, especially the top magistrates, have not
made a statement, please do so very soon.

There is still time to begin a write-in campaign. Plebeians, we need
more tribunes and aediles so please consider running for office as a
write-in. If tax payments are problem for you then my previous offer to
pay taxes for any candidate who is not assiduus still stands.

The debate period (contio) for this session of the Comitia Plebis
Tributa will be closing in a few hours. Voting to elect the new Tribuni
Plebis and Aediles Plebis will begin at 1:00pm Rome Time on November
20th. If you are a plebeian, please take some time out of your day
tomorrow to vote.

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91902 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Plebeian Elections - Contio Closed
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:


We have completed contio, the debate period, for this session of the
Comitia Plebis Tributa. The Cista will open and voting period will begin
soon.


As a reminder, we will be using the Cista Novae Romae on the Nova Roma
website. You will cast your vote by going to your own Album Civium page
and clicking the 'vote here' link on your page. The instructions can be
viewed at http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Simple_steps_for_voting



Simple steps for voting
Make sure you are familiar with our voting procedure.Carefully check the
schedule below for your correct voting times for each comitia.Go to your
Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the box on the right
of the screen.Click on "vote here...".Click on the "go vote" button.Cast
your ballots.Make a note of your ballot number. You will need it if
there are problems with your vote.



The schedule for the remainder of this session of the Comitia Plebis
Tributa is as follows:

01:00 PM CET 20-Nov-2013 : Cista opens. Voting period begins.
09:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM CET 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election results.


The final list of candidates who will be listed on the ballot are:


Tribunus Plebis:
Gaius Claudius Quadratus
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Lucius Ulpius Atellus
Write-In --- Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus


Aedilis Plebis:
Tiberius Iulius Nerva


Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91903 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Plebeian Elections - Voting Procedure
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:


We have completed contio, the debate period, for this session of the
Comitia Plebis Tributa. The Cista will open and voting period will begin
soon.


As a reminder, we will be using the Cista Novae Romae on the Nova Roma
website. You will cast your vote by going to your own Album Civium page
and clicking the 'vote here' link on your page. The instructions can be
viewed at http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Simple_steps_for_voting



Simple steps for voting
1. Make sure you are familiar with our voting procedure.
2. Carefully check the schedule below for your correct voting times for
each comitia.
3. Go to your Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the box
on the right of the screen.
4. Click on "vote here...".
5. Click on the "go vote" button.
6. Cast your ballots.
7. Make a note of your ballot number. You will need it if there are
problems with your vote.


If you have any questions or concerns about the procedure or the
election, just ask on the Main List or send me an email.


The schedule for the remainder of this session of the Comitia Plebis
Tributa is as follows:

01:00 PM CET 20-Nov-2013 : Cista opens. Voting period begins.
09:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM CET 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election results.


The final list of candidates who will be listed on the ballot are:


Tribunus Plebis:
Gaius Claudius Quadratus
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Lucius Ulpius Atellus
Write-In --- Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Postumianus


Aedilis Plebis:
Tiberius Iulius Nerva


Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91904 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Vote Now - Comitia Plebis Tributa
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:

The Cista is open. Please vote now.

As a reminder, we will be using the Cista Novae Romae on the Nova Roma
website. You will cast your vote by going to your own Album Civium page
and clicking the 'vote here' link on your page. The instructions can be
viewed at http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Simple_steps_for_voting

Simple steps for voting
1. Make sure you are familiar with our voting procedure.
2. Carefully check the schedule below for your correct voting times for
each comitia.
3. Go to your Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the box
on the right of the screen.
4. Click on "vote here...".
5. Click on the "go vote" button.
6. Cast your ballots.
7. Make a note of your ballot number. You will need it if there are
problems with your vote.

If you have any questions or concerns about the procedure or the
election, just ask on the Main List or send me an email.

The schedule for the remainder of this session of the Comitia Plebis
Tributa is as follows:

09:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM CET 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election results.


Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91905 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: A Citizen's Guide to Nova Roma Elections
M. Pompeius Caninus quiritibus salutem dicit:

I thought a brief introduction to Nova Roma's election system might be
helpful for new citizens so I wrote an article for the Nova Roma Wiki
at:
http://novaroma.org/nr/A_Civis_Guide_to_Nova_Roma_Elections

Here is the text of the article if you do not have a web browser handy:



A Civis Guide to Nova Roma Elections


Comitia

There are three different legislative bodies in Nova Roma based on the
ancient Roman Republic.

Comitia centuriata
The Comitia centuriata (Assembly of Centuries) is made up of all of the
citizens, grouped into their respective centuries. It enacts laws that
are binding upon all citizens and is also empowered try legal cases in
which a citizen is subject to permanent removal of citizenship. The
offices elected by this comitia are consul, praetor and censor.[1]


Comitia populi tributa
The Comitia populi tributa (Assembly of the People) is made up of all
citizens, grouped into their respective tribes. It is empowered to elect
the quaestores and curule aediles, and to enact laws and to try legal
cases that do not involve permanent removal of citizenship.[2]


Comitia plebis tributa
The Comitia plebis tributa (Assembly of the Plebeians) is made up of all
non-patrician citizens, grouped into their respective tribes. It elects
both the plebeian aediles and the tribunes of the plebs. It is also
empowered to enact laws binding upon the entire citizenry (called
plebiscites) and to try legal cases solely involving members of the
plebeian order that do not involve permanent removal of citizenship.[3]



Magistracies

The offices and number of seats elected by the Comitia centuriata are:

Consul (2 seats)
The consulship is the highest executive magistracy of Nova Roma. The two
consules are co-presidents of the republic. To stand for election as
consul, a potential candidate is required to be at least 30 years old as
of the effective date of office, must be assiduus, must have been a
citizen of Nova Roma for at least four years, and must have previously
held the position of praetor or tribunus plebis for at least six months,
or served as Provincial Governor for at least three years, or held the
position of Senator for a year.[4]


Praetor (2 seats)
The praetores are the second highest executive magistrates and
vice-presidents of the Nova Roman Republic and are considered as lower
colleagues and deputies for the [Consul (Nova Roma)|consules]]. There
are two praetores in Nova Roma and their principal duty is to oversee
the official fora and to administer the judicial system. To stand for
election as praetor, a potential candidate is required to be at least 27
years old, must be assiduus, must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for
at least three years, and must have held one or more of the following
positions for at least six months: tribunus plebis, plebeian aedile,
Curule aediles, quaestor, or Senator.[4]


Censor (1 seat)
Censores are very respected magistrates with the highest auctoritas to
safeguard the public morality and honor but third in rank after the
consules and praetores, because they do not possess imperium, and have
no power to convene either the Senate or an assembly of the people.
Their principal duty is to maintain the lists of citizens, equestrians
and Senator. To stand for election as Censor, a potential candidate is
required to be at least 30 years old, must be assiduus, must have been a
citizen of Nova Roma for at least four years, and must have previously
held the position of praetor or consul for at least six months, or
served as Provincial Governor for at least three years, or held the
position of Senator for a year.[4]



The offices and number of seats elected by the Comitia populi tributa
are:

Aedilis curulis (2 seats)
All aediles are responsible for the organization of the ludi (public
games), public religious events and State properties maintenance. Curule
aediles specifically are also responsible for the Aedilician Fund and
the Macellum. To stand for election as aedilis curulis, a potential
candidate is required to be at least 25 years old, must be assiduus,
must have been a citizen of Nova Roma for at least two years, and must
have held the position of plebeian aedile, Provincial Governor,
quaestor, or a Senator for at least six months.[4]

Quaestor (8 seats)
There are eight quaestores elected annually to serve as aides and
financial administrators to the consules, praetores, and aediles. After
eight quaestores have been elected, the newly elected senior magistrates
are consulted and asked which of the new quaestores they wish to have
assigned to them. The new consules make the final determination of this,
publishing an edict assigning quaestores to senior magistrates. Each
quaestor may be assigned additional duties by the consules as a
diribitor, custos or rogator if there are not enough citizens serving in
these positions.[5]
To stand for election as quaestor, a potential candidate is required to
be at least 21 years old, must be assiduus, must have been a citizen of
Nova Roma for at least one year, and must have previously held the
position of an apparitor for at least six months of service.[4]



The offices and number of seats elected by the Comitia plebis tributa
are:

Aedilis plebis (2 seats)
All aediles are responsible for the organization of the ludi (public
games), plebeian events and State properties maintenance. Candidates for
aedilis plebis must be citizens in good standing for at least six full
months before taking office. They must be of the plebeian order,
assidui, and at least 21 years of age by the date of taking office.[6]

Tribunus plebis (5 seats)
The Constitution of Nova Roma provides that there shall be five tribuni
plebis (Tribunes of the Plebs), who shall be elected by the Comitia
plebis tributa, and who shall all be of the plebeian order. The plebeian
tribunes have a special power that allows them to stop actions by other
magistrates, including actions by the consules, that violate Nova Roma
law. The plebeian tribunes also attend all Senate meetings and keep the
citizens informed about what occurs in the Senate sessions as well as
posting public reports on the outcomes of all voting with in the Senate.
Candidates for tribunus plebis must be citizens in good standing, for at
least six full months before taking office, of the plebeian order,
assidui, and at least 25 years of age by the date of taking office.[6]



Cista

Currently, Nova Roma has two voting 'locations'. Each voting location is
called a cista.

The first location is Cista Novae Romae on the Nova Roma website. This
cista has had some trouble due to a lack of talent willing to provide
coding and technical support. The web pages are built on a custom
framework developed by a past web master for Nova Roma. It is outdated
and work is being done to bring the site up to current web standards for
usability and security. To vote using the Cista Novae Romae each citizen
must go to his or her Album Civium page to get the link for their voter
code and their ballot.[7]

The second location is votingplace.net, which uses a large share of Nova
Roma's annual budget to host elections. This cista has served Nova Roma
well over the past couple of years despite the fact that it is not fully
under the control of Nova Roma. The CFO and the Senate have placed a
high priority on developing the Cista Novae Romae so this expense will
no longer be required. To vote using votingplace.net the election
officials have the software send each registered citizen a voter code
via email along with voting instructions.


References

↑ Lex Cornelia de ratione comitiorum centuriatorum -
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_ratione_comitiorum_centuriatorum_(Nova_Roma)
↑ Lex Cornelia de ratione comitiorum populi tributorum -
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_ratione_comitiorum_populi_tributorum_(Nova_Roma)
↑ Lex Pompeia de ratione comitiorum plebis tributorum -
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Pompeia_de_ratione_comitiorum_plebis_tributorum_(Nova_Roma)
↑ 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 Lex Cornelia de cursu honorum
-http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_cursu_honorum_(Nova_Roma)
↑ Lex Cornelia de quaestoribus -
http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Cornelia_de_quaestoribus_(Nova_Roma)
↑ 6.1 6.2 Lex Pompeia de cursu honorum -
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Pompeia_de_cursu_honorum
↑ Simple steps for voting -
http://novaroma.org/nr/Simple_steps_for_voting






Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91906 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Vote Now - Comitia Plebis Tributa
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:

The Cista is open. Plebeian citizens --- please vote now if you have not
yet voted.

As a reminder, we will be using the Cista Novae Romae on the Nova Roma
website. You will cast your vote by going to your own Album Civium page
and clicking the 'vote here' link on your page. The instructions can be
viewed at http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Simple_steps_for_voting in the
Wiki. Let me know if you have any trouble getting to your Album Civium
page or getting to the ballot.

Simple steps for voting
1. Make sure you are familiar with our voting procedure.
2. Carefully check the schedule below for your correct voting times for
each comitia.
3. Go to your Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the box
on the right of the screen.
4. Click on "vote here...".
5. Click on the "go vote" button.
6. Cast your ballots.
7. Make a note of your ballot number. You will need it if there are
problems with your vote.

If you have any questions or concerns about the procedure or the
election, just ask on the Main List or send me an email.

The schedule for the remainder of this session of the Comitia Plebis
Tributa is as follows:

09:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM CET 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election results.


Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91907 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-20
Subject: Cista Problem
Salve, Canine!

My daughter, Lucia Claudia Quadrata Feles, has been trying to vote.  She knows her code and gets to the voting page.  She is told to enter the code, but the link does not appear to be functioning and she is unable to enter it.  I hope other voters are not having similar problems.

Vale!
Quadratus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91908 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius
A. Paterculus L. Vitellio Triario omnibusque s.p.d.
   If you would ever like editing help on future works or updated editions, I'd be happy to volunteer my time.
    Valete.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91909 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Ave Quadrate!

I have not received any other reports of problems with the Cista or voting in general. The Cista fell into disuse over the past couple of years and this is only the second time it has been used this year so voter turn out is much lower than votingplace.net. I seems there have been a couple of dozen votes cast so far in this election. 

If she goes to her Album Civium page and logs in then she should not be asked to enter a voter code, the code is carried over automatically when she views the Cista list that shows the dates and times of the elections for each comitia. So I think there are two strong possibilities here for the root cause of the trouble she is experiencing:

A. She is not logged in to the Album Civium. Following the Cista procedure will ensure she is logged. If the login does not work then there may be a password problem, go to http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/user?cmd=forgot-password and complete the form to reset the password

B. Her browser cache may be interfering with the correct operation of the website. Clear the web browser cache and try logging in to the Album Civium then click on 'vote here' to get the voter code page. If everything is working correctly then there will be a 'go vote' button she can click to get to the ballot.

As a reminder, this is the only procedure that is known to work properly:
1. Go to your Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the box on the right of the screen.
2. Click on "vote here...".
3. Click on the "go vote" button.
4. Cast your ballots.

Using any shortcuts to get to the Cista will probably result in problems because I corrected a serious security issue back in June before I opened the Cista the first time this year. The Cista used to display a box where one could enter his or her voter code, which seems like a good idea. However, one could actually enter any voter code and a ballot would be opened for that voter code, whether or not the code actually belonged to the individual at the keyboard or not. There was no cross check with the Album Civium user login and there was no password required, so anyone could have sat down with a list of voter codes and stuffed the ballot box to make an election go what ever way they liked. By removing the ability to enter a voter code on the form, I made a quick fix that greatly reduced this risk of election tampering. I still need to do a lot of work to plug up all of the security holes and once I do then I can safely bring back the box to enter a voter code on the form. But for now there is no such box and it sounds like this is the issue that Quadrata is running into.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you need additional help. My cell phone number is 907-545-4888.

Fac valeas!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91910 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Avete omnes.
I voted without problems.

Valete omnes .
ALH


On Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:20 PM, M. Pompeius Caninus <caninus@...  
Ave Quadrate!

I have not received any other reports of problems with the Cista or voting in general. The Cista fell into disuse over the past couple of years and this is only the second time it has been used this year so voter turn out is much lower than votingplace.net. I seems there have been a couple of dozen votes cast so far in this election. 

If she goes to her Album Civium page and logs in then she should not be asked to enter a voter code, the code is carried over automatically when she views the Cista list that shows the dates and times of the elections for each comitia. So I think there are two strong possibilities here for the root cause of the trouble she is experiencing:

A. She is not logged in to the Album Civium. Following the Cista procedure will ensure she is logged. If the login does not work then there may be a password problem, go to http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/user?cmd=forgot-password and complete the form to reset the password

B. Her browser cache may be interfering with the correct operation of the website. Clear the web browser cache and try logging in to the Album Civium then click on 'vote here' to get the voter code page. If everything is working correctly then there will be a 'go vote' button she can click to get to the ballot.

As a reminder, this is the only procedure that is known to work properly:
1. Go to your Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the box on the right of the screen.
2. Click on "vote here...".
3. Click on the "go vote" button.
4. Cast your ballots.

Using any shortcuts to get to the Cista will probably result in problems because I corrected a serious security issue back in June before I opened the Cista the first time this year. The Cista used to display a box where one could enter his or her voter code, which seems like a good idea. However, one could actually enter any voter code and a ballot would be opened for that voter code, whether or not the code actually belonged to the individual at the keyboard or not. There was no cross check with the Album Civium user login and there was no password required, so anyone could have sat down with a list of voter codes and stuffed the ballot box to make an election go what ever way they liked. By removing the ability to enter a voter code on the form, I made a quick fix that greatly reduced this risk of election tampering. I still need to do a lot of work to plug up all of the security holes and once I do then I can safely bring back the box to enter a voter code on the form. But for now there is no such box and it sounds like this is the issue that Quadrata is running into.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you need additional help. My cell phone number is 907-545-4888.

Fac valeas!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91911 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Salvete
 
 
I also voted without any problems.
 
Valete
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus
 

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: reenbru@...
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:30:55 -0800
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] RE: Cista Problem

 
Avete omnes.
I voted without problems.

Valete omnes .
ALH
 
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91912 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Re: Cista Problem
Salvete!

We finally got it figured out!

Valete!
Quadratus


To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
From: spqr753@...
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:26:14 -0500
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] RE: Cista Problem

 

Salvete
 
 
I also voted without any problems.
 
Valete
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus
 

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: reenbru@...
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:30:55 -0800
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] RE: Cista Problem

 
Avete omnes.
I voted without problems.

Valete omnes .
ALH
 
 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91913 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Official Summons of the Comitia Populi Tributa
Avete Omnes,

It is my sincere pleasure to summon the Comitia Populi Tributa. With the summoning of this Comitia the election season is officially launched.

This Comitia will elect the Quaestors and will also be promulgating two laws.

The schedule will be as follows:

9:00 pm November 21st - Contio is Open
9:01 pm November 26th - Contio is Closed
9:01 pm November 27th - Voting is Open
9:01 pm December 3rd - Voting is Closed
9:01 pm December 4th - Comitia is officially closed.

Voting will be taking place on www.votingplace.net

Presiding Magistrate:  Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, Consul of Nova Roma

_____

Office of Quaestor:

Gaius Decius Laterensis - 7/18/2011 (date of citizenship), this candidate meets the legal requirements to stand for the office of Quaestor.  He is seeking the office of Quaestor of Nova Roma.

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus - 12/27/2012 (date of citizenship), this candidate meets the legal requirements to stand for the office of Quaestor.  He is seeking the office of Quaestor of Nova Roma.

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The following are the text of the two laws for Consideration:

Lex Cornelia de Poenalis

I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.

II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the  procedures within and for Nova Roma, other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal.

III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.

IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.

V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:

a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors

b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate

c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.

d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.

e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.

f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.

VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:

a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :

                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)

                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)

                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)

                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)

                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)

                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)

                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)

                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)

                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)

c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:

                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.

                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:

1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.

2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.

3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.

4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.

5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.

6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.

a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.

7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.

8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.

                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:

1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.

2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.

3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.

c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.

4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years

c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years

                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.

                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.

                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.

d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.

e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.

f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:

                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       

                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years

                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years

                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year

 

VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 

a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.

b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.

c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote.


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The name for this law is PENDING:  But it is the one on the Ordo Equaestor:



 

I.                    The lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuratis is hereby repealed.

II.                  The preconditions for admittance to the Ordo are:

a.       That the person be an Assidui classified citizen of Nova Roma

b.      That the citizen applying must have:

                                                               i.      A total of at least 220 census points, in which case membership is permanent subject to the citizen maintaining a balance of census points that totals at least 220. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                             ii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for business contributions for Ordo membership by any citizen operating a business within Nova Roma, or legally utilising any assets of Nova Roma.  The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                            iii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for donative contributions for Ordo membership. Membership is permanent and no further donative contribution shall be required for the citizen to maintain membership of the Ordo. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                           iv.      Be chosen by one censor for outstanding service to Nova Roma. A Censor may only choose one citizen during his/her two year term as censor. Membership of the Ordo through this means shall not result in advance for the citizen in the centuries and/or classes, though advancement may occur by accruing more census points through the normal public service criteria. A Suffect Censor can not choose any citizen. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

 

III.                The requirements for continued membership in the Ordo Equester are:

a.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.i permanent, but subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

b.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.ii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the business contribution amount for the year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the business contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further business contributions shall be required. A person operating a business within Nova Roma is not eligible to apply for membership of the ordo by virtue of donative contributions as at II.c below.

c.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.iii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the donative contribution amount for that year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the donative contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further donative contributions shall be required.

d.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.iv permanent, subject to that citizen not resigning or being banished and also subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen should suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

 

IV.                The process for admittance to the Ordo:

a.       Is automatic for I.b.i and not requiring Censorial approval, collegiate or otherwise.

b.      Is subject to the Censors acting in a collegiate manner to admit a citizen for I.b.ii to I.b.iv inclusive.

c.       Does not require any public reason to be published to support the decision to admit a person.

d.      Requires that the Censors set the amount of census points for the citizens initially admitted under I.b.ii to I.b.iii inclusive at 220 should they be less than 220.

 

V.     The process for rejection of an application to be admitted to the Ordo does not require the Censors to publish a reason for rejection, nor for the censors to provide the person applying with the reasons for rejection. The Censors shall however inform a citizen whose application has been rejected of the fact of rejection, but there is no requirement placed upon the Censors to supply that citizen with the reasons for rejection.

 

VI.   The number of centuries shall be determined based on the number of Assidui citizens in Nova Roma.  The Comitia Centuriata will have 31 Centuries that will be divided into 5 classes.  The addition of new centuries to the Comitia Centuriata will be structured to coincide to benchmarks of Assidui citizens.

a.       300 and fewer Assidui citizens will result in 31 Centuries

b.      301-600 Assidui citizens will result in 61 Centuries

c.       601 -1200 Assidui Citizens will result in 91 Centuries

d.      1201-1800 Assidui Citizens will result in 121 Centuries

e.      1801-2400 Assidui Citizens will result in 151 Centuries

f.        2401 and above Assidui Citizens will result in 193 Centuries.

VII. The Censores may no longer alter the makeup of the centuries by class.   The Censores are tasked to ensure that each class is properly filled with the appropriate citizens in compliance to existing legislation.  If there are centuries assigned to classes that do not have the citizens to fill those centuries then the Censores cannot fill those centuries.

a.       The Number of Census points will determine what class citizens are allocated in the Comitia Centuriata. 

                                                               i.      If Citizens hold 220 or more Census Points and have accepted enrollment into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to that Class and appropriate Century.

                                                             ii.      If Citizens hold between 140-219 Census points OR have not accepted membership into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to the First Class of Centuries.

                                                            iii.      If Citizens census points fall within the 100 – 139 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Second class.

                                                           iv.      If Citizens census points fall within the 50-99 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Third class.

                                                             v.      If Citizens census points fall within the 35-49 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fourth class.

                                                           vi.      If Citizens census points fall within 17-34 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fifth class.

                                                          vii.      If Citizens census points do not meet the minimum threshold of 16 Census points they will be allocated to the Capite Censi Century.

VIII.                        The relative sizes of each class shall be set as follows:

a.       Class I: 49% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century in this class shall be composed of all those members of the Ordo Equester who have accepted membership into the Ordo Equester.  This will be referred to as Century 1.

b.      Class II: 10% of the total number of Centuries

c.       Class III: 10% of the total number of Centuries

d.      Class IV: 10% of the total number of Centuries

e.      Class V:    15% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century within class V is reserved for the Capite Censi Only.

f.        Within each class, the number of citizens is to be spread as equitable as possible.  With the exception of those individual centuries that have extra requirements (Section VIII,a,i and Section VIII,e,i).  The Censors are instructed to ensure each class is properly and equitable represented.

 

Respectfully,


Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Consul of Nova Roma

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91914 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave,

This thread is limited to the discussion of the following proposed Lex:

I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.

II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the  procedures within and for Nova Roma, other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal.

III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.

IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.

V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:

a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors

b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate

c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.

d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.

e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.

f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.

VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:

a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :

                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)

                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)

                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)

                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)

                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)

                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)

                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)

                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)

                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)

c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:

                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.

                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:

1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.

2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.

3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.

4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.

5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.

6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.

a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.

7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.

8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.

                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:

1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.

2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.

3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.

c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.

4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years

c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years

                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.

                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.

                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.

d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.

e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.

f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:

                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       

                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years

                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years

                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year

 

VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 

a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.

b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.

c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91915 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-21
Subject: DISCUSSION THREAD: Name Pending, but this is the ordo equaester lex
Avete Omnes,

This thread is for the discussion of this Lex:

 

I.                    The lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuratis is hereby repealed.

II.                  The preconditions for admittance to the Ordo are:

a.       That the person be an Assidui classified citizen of Nova Roma

b.      That the citizen applying must have:

                                                               i.      A total of at least 220 census points, in which case membership is permanent subject to the citizen maintaining a balance of census points that totals at least 220. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                             ii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for business contributions for Ordo membership by any citizen operating a business within Nova Roma, or legally utilising any assets of Nova Roma.  The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                            iii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for donative contributions for Ordo membership. Membership is permanent and no further donative contribution shall be required for the citizen to maintain membership of the Ordo. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                           iv.      Be chosen by one censor for outstanding service to Nova Roma. A Censor may only choose one citizen during his/her two year term as censor. Membership of the Ordo through this means shall not result in advance for the citizen in the centuries and/or classes, though advancement may occur by accruing more census points through the normal public service criteria. A Suffect Censor can not choose any citizen. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

 

III.                The requirements for continued membership in the Ordo Equester are:

a.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.i permanent, but subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

b.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.ii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the business contribution amount for the year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the business contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further business contributions shall be required. A person operating a business within Nova Roma is not eligible to apply for membership of the ordo by virtue of donative contributions as at II.c below.

c.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.iii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the donative contribution amount for that year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the donative contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further donative contributions shall be required.

d.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.iv permanent, subject to that citizen not resigning or being banished and also subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen should suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

 

IV.                The process for admittance to the Ordo:

a.       Is automatic for I.b.i and not requiring Censorial approval, collegiate or otherwise.

b.      Is subject to the Censors acting in a collegiate manner to admit a citizen for I.b.ii to I.b.iv inclusive.

c.       Does not require any public reason to be published to support the decision to admit a person.

d.      Requires that the Censors set the amount of census points for the citizens initially admitted under I.b.ii to I.b.iii inclusive at 220 should they be less than 220.

 

V.     The process for rejection of an application to be admitted to the Ordo does not require the Censors to publish a reason for rejection, nor for the censors to provide the person applying with the reasons for rejection. The Censors shall however inform a citizen whose application has been rejected of the fact of rejection, but there is no requirement placed upon the Censors to supply that citizen with the reasons for rejection.

 

VI.   The number of centuries shall be determined based on the number of Assidui citizens in Nova Roma.  The Comitia Centuriata will have 31 Centuries that will be divided into 5 classes.  The addition of new centuries to the Comitia Centuriata will be structured to coincide to benchmarks of Assidui citizens.

a.       300 and fewer Assidui citizens will result in 31 Centuries

b.      301-600 Assidui citizens will result in 61 Centuries

c.       601 -1200 Assidui Citizens will result in 91 Centuries

d.      1201-1800 Assidui Citizens will result in 121 Centuries

e.      1801-2400 Assidui Citizens will result in 151 Centuries

f.        2401 and above Assidui Citizens will result in 193 Centuries.

VII. The Censores may no longer alter the makeup of the centuries by class.   The Censores are tasked to ensure that each class is properly filled with the appropriate citizens in compliance to existing legislation.  If there are centuries assigned to classes that do not have the citizens to fill those centuries then the Censores cannot fill those centuries.

a.       The Number of Census points will determine what class citizens are allocated in the Comitia Centuriata. 

                                                               i.      If Citizens hold 220 or more Census Points and have accepted enrollment into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to that Class and appropriate Century.

                                                             ii.      If Citizens hold between 140-219 Census points OR have not accepted membership into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to the First Class of Centuries.

                                                            iii.      If Citizens census points fall within the 100 – 139 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Second class.

                                                           iv.      If Citizens census points fall within the 50-99 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Third class.

                                                             v.      If Citizens census points fall within the 35-49 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fourth class.

                                                           vi.      If Citizens census points fall within 17-34 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fifth class.

                                                          vii.      If Citizens census points do not meet the minimum threshold of 16 Census points they will be allocated to the Capite Censi Century.

VIII.                        The relative sizes of each class shall be set as follows:

a.       Class I: 49% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century in this class shall be composed of all those members of the Ordo Equester who have accepted membership into the Ordo Equester.  This will be referred to as Century 1.

b.      Class II: 10% of the total number of Centuries

c.       Class III: 10% of the total number of Centuries

d.      Class IV: 10% of the total number of Centuries

e.      Class V:    15% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century within class V is reserved for the Capite Censi Only.

f.        Within each class, the number of citizens is to be spread as equitable as possible.  With the exception of those individual centuries that have extra requirements (Section VIII,a,i and Section VIII,e,i).  The Censors are instructed to ensure each class is properly and equitable represented.

 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91916 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Corrected: Official Summons of the Comitia Populi Tributa
Avete Omnes,

It is my sincere pleasure to summon the Comitia Populi Tributa. With the summoning of this Comitia the election season is officially launched.

This Comitia will elect the Quaestors and will also be promulgating two laws.

The schedule will be as follows:

9:00 pm November 21st - Contio is Open
9:01 pm November 26th - Contio is Closed
9:01 pm November 27th - Voting is Open
9:01 pm December 3rd - Voting is Closed
9:01 pm December 4th - Comitia is officially closed.

Voting will be taking place on www.votingplace.net

Presiding Magistrate:  Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, Consul of Nova Roma

ADDED:  Information about the election of the Curule Aedile

_____

Office of Curule Aedile:

Lucius Vitellius Triarius - 1/25/2005 (date of citizenship), this candidate meets the legal requirements to stand for the office of Curule Aedile.  He is seeking the office of Curule Aedile

Office of Quaestor:

Gaius Decius Laterensis - 7/18/2011 (date of citizenship), this candidate meets the legal requirements to stand for the office of Quaestor.  He is seeking the office of Quaestor of Nova Roma.

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus - 12/27/2012 (date of citizenship), this candidate meets the legal requirements to stand for the office of Quaestor.  He is seeking the office of Quaestor of Nova Roma.

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The following are the text of the two laws for Consideration:

Lex Cornelia de Poenalis

I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.

II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the  procedures within and for Nova Roma, other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal.

III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.

IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.

V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:

a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors

b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate

c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.

d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.

e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.

f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.

VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:

a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :

                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)

                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)

                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)

                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)

                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)

                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)

                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)

                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)

                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)

c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:

                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.

                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:

1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.

2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.

3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.

4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.

5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.

6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.

a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.

7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.

8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.

                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:

1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.

2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.

3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.

c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.

4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years

c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years

                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.

                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.

                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.

d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.

e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.

f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:

                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       

                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years

                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years

                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year

 

VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 

a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.

b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.

c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote.


______________________________


The name for this law is PENDING:  But it is the one on the Ordo Equaestor:



 

I.                    The lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuratis is hereby repealed.

II.                  The preconditions for admittance to the Ordo are:

a.       That the person be an Assidui classified citizen of Nova Roma

b.      That the citizen applying must have:

                                                               i.      A total of at least 220 census points, in which case membership is permanent subject to the citizen maintaining a balance of census points that totals at least 220. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                             ii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for business contributions for Ordo membership by any citizen operating a business within Nova Roma, or legally utilising any assets of Nova Roma.  The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                            iii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for donative contributions for Ordo membership. Membership is permanent and no further donative contribution shall be required for the citizen to maintain membership of the Ordo. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

or

                                                           iv.      Be chosen by one censor for outstanding service to Nova Roma. A Censor may only choose one citizen during his/her two year term as censor. Membership of the Ordo through this means shall not result in advance for the citizen in the centuries and/or classes, though advancement may occur by accruing more census points through the normal public service criteria. A Suffect Censor can not choose any citizen. The citizen must accept Ordo membership.

 

III.                The requirements for continued membership in the Ordo Equester are:

a.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.i permanent, but subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

b.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.ii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the business contribution amount for the year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the business contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further business contributions shall be required. A person operating a business within Nova Roma is not eligible to apply for membership of the ordo by virtue of donative contributions as at II.c below.

c.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.iii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the donative contribution amount for that year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the donative contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further donative contributions shall be required.

d.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.iv permanent, subject to that citizen not resigning or being banished and also subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen should suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

 

IV.                The process for admittance to the Ordo:

a.       Is automatic for I.b.i and not requiring Censorial approval, collegiate or otherwise.

b.      Is subject to the Censors acting in a collegiate manner to admit a citizen for I.b.ii to I.b.iv inclusive.

c.       Does not require any public reason to be published to support the decision to admit a person.

d.      Requires that the Censors set the amount of census points for the citizens initially admitted under I.b.ii to I.b.iii inclusive at 220 should they be less than 220.

 

V.     The process for rejection of an application to be admitted to the Ordo does not require the Censors to publish a reason for rejection, nor for the censors to provide the person applying with the reasons for rejection. The Censors shall however inform a citizen whose application has been rejected of the fact of rejection, but there is no requirement placed upon the Censors to supply that citizen with the reasons for rejection.

 

VI.   The number of centuries shall be determined based on the number of Assidui citizens in Nova Roma.  The Comitia Centuriata will have 31 Centuries that will be divided into 5 classes.  The addition of new centuries to the Comitia Centuriata will be structured to coincide to benchmarks of Assidui citizens.

a.       300 and fewer Assidui citizens will result in 31 Centuries

b.      301-600 Assidui citizens will result in 61 Centuries

c.       601 -1200 Assidui Citizens will result in 91 Centuries

d.      1201-1800 Assidui Citizens will result in 121 Centuries

e.      1801-2400 Assidui Citizens will result in 151 Centuries

f.        2401 and above Assidui Citizens will result in 193 Centuries.

VII. The Censores may no longer alter the makeup of the centuries by class.   The Censores are tasked to ensure that each class is properly filled with the appropriate citizens in compliance to existing legislation.  If there are centuries assigned to classes that do not have the citizens to fill those centuries then the Censores cannot fill those centuries.

a.       The Number of Census points will determine what class citizens are allocated in the Comitia Centuriata. 

                                                               i.      If Citizens hold 220 or more Census Points and have accepted enrollment into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to that Class and appropriate Century.

                                                             ii.      If Citizens hold between 140-219 Census points OR have not accepted membership into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to the First Class of Centuries.

                                                            iii.      If Citizens census points fall within the 100 – 139 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Second class.

                                                           iv.      If Citizens census points fall within the 50-99 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Third class.

                                                             v.      If Citizens census points fall within the 35-49 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fourth class.

                                                           vi.      If Citizens census points fall within 17-34 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fifth class.

                                                          vii.      If Citizens census points do not meet the minimum threshold of 16 Census points they will be allocated to the Capite Censi Century.

VIII.                        The relative sizes of each class shall be set as follows:

a.       Class I: 49% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century in this class shall be composed of all those members of the Ordo Equester who have accepted membership into the Ordo Equester.  This will be referred to as Century 1.

b.      Class II: 10% of the total number of Centuries

c.       Class III: 10% of the total number of Centuries

d.      Class IV: 10% of the total number of Centuries

e.      Class V:    15% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century within class V is reserved for the Capite Censi Only.

f.        Within each class, the number of citizens is to be spread as equitable as possible.  With the exception of those individual centuries that have extra requirements (Section VIII,a,i and Section VIII,e,i).  The Censors are instructed to ensure each class is properly and equitable represented.

 

Respectfully,


Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Consul of Nova Roma

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91917 From: jirirys Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Re: NR Fundraising Effort - New Books by Triarius

 Could we make Czech translation?


Tiberius Iulius Nerva

Preafectus Civitatis Boihaemi

Nova Roma Pannonia



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91918 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] DISCUSSION THREAD: Name Pending, but this is the ord
Caninus Sullae omnibusque in foro sal.

One particular phrase that is repeated for each of the four admission requirements paragraphs (II.b.i-iv) is "The citizen must accept Ordo membership." A strict reading of this statement would suggest that it is an imperative and the citizen has no choice in the matter of elevation to the Ordo Equester. However, I don't think that is actually the case. I believe what is meant here is that elevation to the Ordo Equester will not occur without the citizen's consent. If that is the intent of this statement then perhaps it could be rewritten as something like:

"Admission to the Ordo Equester is voluntary and occurs only if the citizen accepts the honor."

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91919 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] DISCUSSION THREAD: Name Pending, but this is the ord
Ave,

Yes, that would be correct.   I will make that adjustment.  Yes, membership in the Ordo is voluntary.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91920 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Vote Now - Comitia Plebis Tributa
M. Pompeius Caninus tribunus plebis Novis Romanis Plebibus salutem
plurimam dicit:

The Cista is open. Plebeian citizens --- please vote now if you have not
yet voted.

As a reminder, we will be using the Cista Novae Romae on the Nova Roma
website. You will cast your vote by going to your own Album Civium page
and clicking the 'vote here' link on your page. The instructions can be
viewed at http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Simple_steps_for_voting in the
Wiki. Let me know if you have any trouble getting to your Album Civium
page or getting to the ballot.

Simple steps for voting
* Go to your Album Civium page. Make sure you are logged in via the
box on the right of the screen.
* Click on "vote here...".
* Click on the "go vote" button.
* Cast your ballots.
* Make a note of your ballot number. You will need it if there are
problems with your vote.

If you have any questions or concerns about the procedure or the
election, just ask on the Main List or send me an email.

The schedule for the remainder of this session of the Comitia Plebis
Tributa is as follows:

09:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Cista closes. Voting period ends.
10:00 AM CET 28-Nov-2013 : Comitia session closes.
09:00 AM CET 30-Nov-2013 : Announcement of certified election results.


Facite valeatis!


Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91921 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-22
Subject: Plebeians --- Please Vote
M. Pompeius Caninus plebibus in foro sal:

Please cast your vote on the following law:

Please cast your vote for the offices of Plebeian Aedile and Plebeian Tribune:

To vote:
  *   Go to the Album Civium at http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album
  *   Make sure you are logged in using the box on the right of the screen.
  *   Go to your page by clicking on your name.
  *   Click on "vote here...".
  *   Click on the "go vote" button.
  *   Cast your votes on the ballot.
  *   Submit the ballot and make a note of your ballot number.

If you run into any problems with voting or logging in to the Album Civium please let me know!

Bene valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91922 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis

Cn. Lentulus quaestor L. Sullae consuli s. d.

The name of this law was "lex Cornelia poenalis". The preposition "de" must not be here. The preposition "de" means "about", "poenalis" means "penal". So the name of the law is "Cornelian penal law". If the "de" is put in, it would mean "*Cornelian law about penal" which would have no meaning.

I try to comment on this rogatio Cornelia poenalis later on. 

Vale!


Da: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@...
 
Ave,

This thread is limited to the discussion of the following proposed Lex:

I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.
II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the  procedures within and for Nova Roma, other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal.
III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.
IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.
V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:
a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors
b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate
c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.
d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.
e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.
f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.
VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:
a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.
b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :
                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)
                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)
                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)
                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)
                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)
                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)
                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)
                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)
                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)
                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)
                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)
                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)
c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:
                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.
                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.
                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:
1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.
2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.
3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.
4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.
5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.
6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.
a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.
7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.
8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.
                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:
1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.
b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.
c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.
2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.
b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.
c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.
3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.
b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.
c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.
4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year
b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years
c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years
                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.
                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.
                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.
d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.
e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.
f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:
                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       
                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years
                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years
                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year
 
VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 
a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.
b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.
c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91923 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Welcome back Pompeia

Salve Pompeia,

And be most welcomed back to Nova Roma.

Vale optime,
Crassus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91924 From: pompeia_minucia_tiberia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Welcome back Pompeia

 Gratias amice

P



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91925 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
T.M.Quadra Cn. Lentulus quaestor L. Sullae consuli Salutem plurimam dicit
If not too busy, can someone translate this: Lorem ipsum dolor nil finis. Ite in pace, in Apollo servire aliis. I'm trying to say: Our service never ends. Go now in peace, to love and serve other with Apollo.

Gratias tibi ago,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

 


On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:58 PM, Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@...  

Cn. Lentulus quaestor L. Sullae consuli s. d.

The name of this law was "lex Cornelia poenalis". The preposition "de" must not be here. The preposition "de" means "about", "poenalis" means "penal". So the name of the law is "Cornelian penal law". If the "de" is put in, it would mean "*Cornelian law about penal" which would have no meaning.

I try to comment on this rogatio Cornelia poenalis later on. 

Vale!


Da: Robert Woolwine <robert.woolwine@... Poenalis

 
Ave,

This thread is limited to the discussion of the following proposed Lex:

I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.
II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the  procedures within and for Nova Roma, other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal.
III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.
IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.
V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:
a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors
b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate
c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.
d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.
e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.
f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.
VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:
a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.
b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :
                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)
                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)
                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)
                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)
                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)
                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)
                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)
                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)
                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)
                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)
                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)
                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)
c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:
                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.
                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.
                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:
1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.
2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.
3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.
4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.
5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.
6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.
a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.
7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.
8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.
                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:
1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.
b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.
c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.
2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.
b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.
c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.
3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.
b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.
c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.
4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)
a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year
b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years
c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years
                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.
                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.
                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.
d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.
e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.
f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:
                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       
                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years
                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years
                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year
 
VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 
a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.
b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.
c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote.




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91926 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave!

Thank you I will make sure to remove the de. 

Respectfully,

Sulla



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91927 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Welcome back Pompeia
Salvete Omnes,

Words fail that could describe the happiness this brings.  The muses weep in joy at the return of Pompeia :-)

Valete bene,
Aeternia 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91928 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Candidate for Consul- Statia Cornelia Aeternia
Sta. Cornelia Juliana Aeternia Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

 Citizens,

It is time again to choose who should be Consul. I am glad we have two candidates, better than one or none. I have been a citizen of Nova Roma for almost 15 years. Since the age of 18 I have been with this organization, in some senses Nova Roma and I have grown up together.  This year I have thrown my hat in the ring as candidate for consul. Now I am sure, based on past years, there may be a small peeping sound of protest at that. I am used to this. Let me tell you a bit about myself.

I believe in Nova Roma (yes at times in the past less than now, but given our turbulent history I think many have been at that point and rebounded). I work hard and play even harder. I am not stuffy. Equally I am no "push-over". I will try to negotiate first but if a point of principle is at stake I will defend it. I may not burn the house down as a price, but expect principled defense from mew of that I hold dear in Nova Roma. We cannot be bound by the past but we can and must be guided in our decision making by it. I made a list of things I feel about myself are important to bring to your attention.

1. I have never resigned my citizenship.
2. I have been elected into the positions of Rogator, Curule Aedile and Praetor, all successfully
3. I am also a Senator
4. I have served as scribe on several cohorts (currently serving as scribe for the Praetura)
5. I was the youngest person in NR History to form a Sodalitas
6. I am tend to be active on a local/provincial level where I have met many other citizens

My goals for my consulship are, if elected:

1. The continuation of provincial reform
2. The initiation of Sodalitas reform
3. Continuing the development and enhancement of the growth of Nova Roma

I will answer questions may have on the above, and this is the general framework. The "how" and "what" of the above will follow on from consultation with the senate and people of Nova Roma. I can capture it as initiative NOT inertia. The last two years have seen the repair of the senate and laws of Nova Roma. There remains much to do. It likely will not all get done in one year, but that theme of growth will continue if I am elected.

I believe in Nova Roma as a "big tent", not an elitist and purist small sleeping bag. We need to attract people. We need to balance the budget. We need activity, real events. We need to engage past, present and future citizens and we can only engage and gain commitment from them if Nova Roma is seen to be moving out of the repair stage into the growth stage. If we demonstrate and give evidence, not just this year but in years to come, we have not only survived but prospered and our events are meaningful and real, be they online or face-to-face, then we will once again grip imaginations and inspire people to gift us their time and energy in building our community. 

I thank you for your time. And good luck to all the candidates across the board.

Bonam Fortunam!

Valete Optime,
Statia Cornelia Juliana Aeternia 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91929 From: cmc Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Candidate for Consul- Statia Cornelia Aeternia

Omnibus in foro S. P. D.

 

Although I usually post to encourage people to vote, (and you should, it is the primary duty and privilege of each and every civis), I have never before endorsed specific candidates for any office.  Well, I am going to break my unwritten rule, because, to be honest, it will give me such joy to do this.

 

I wholeheartedly endorse and support both candidates for Consul, Sta. Cornelia Aeternia and C. Aemilius Crassus.  I have worked with both in past years, and have observed, come to know, and come to highly value both of them, on a professional and a personal level.  I firmly believe that both have the qualities and abilities to excel in this office, and that Nova Roma will benefit, both in the short and long term from their tenure.  I have found them to be intelligent, fair minded, mindful of both our own history and respectful of our ancient lineage.  Both are willing to learn from past errors and situations, yet both are ready to expand and try new initiatives, and, for us to grow, that will be necessary and profitable.  In addition, I know that both respect and value the citizens of the Res Publica, and will treat them accordingly.  Therefore, while this is an uncontested election, it is my hope that you will give them very solid and visible support with your votes.  They most assuredly have mine, and it will be both an honor and a pleasure to assist them in any way I can during their tenure as Consuls.  Aeternia and Crassus are good for Nova Roma.

 

Valete quam optime!

 

C. Maria Caeca

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91930 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Candidate for Consul- Statia Cornelia Aeternia
Sta. Cornelia Aeternia C. Mariae Caecae Virgo Vestalis Omnibusque in foro S.P.D.

I cannot refrain from not responding to such an intense post.  

I am not sure what to say.

Except that of deep thanks to a very good friend who plays a pivotal role in our organization whether she realizes it or not.

Esteemed Vestal, I hope to live up to your expectations and that of the people of Nova Roma. It is my intention to help her to continue to grow and flourish in a positive way.

I have a feeling Crassus will feel the same way.

Our predecessors have left big shoes to fill, but we will both try to do them justice and well as you dear Lady.

Thank you for your public support, I am truly humbled.

Much love to Lady with the Platinum Quill who sits in a Chariot made of Diamonds.

Valete Optime,
Aeternia 




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91931 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Questions for quaestores candidates.
SALVETE!


Quaestores candidates:
1. What it means the word "quaestor"?
2. How many quaestores were in ancient times after the First Punic War?
3. How many lictors were allowed to a quaestor?

Attention: only quaestores candidates answer!

VALETE,
Sabinus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91932 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-23
Subject: Re: Questions for quaestores candidates.

1. It comes from quaero, meaning "to inquire"
2. Ten
3. One

Laterensis

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From: iulius_sabinus@... <iulius_sabinus@... To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Nova-Roma] Questions for quaestores candidates.
Sent: Sat, Nov 23, 2013 11:44:57 PM

 

SALVETE!


Quaestores candidates:
1. What it means the word "quaestor"?
2. How many quaestores were in ancient times after the First Punic War?
3. How many lictors were allowed to a quaestor?

Attention: only quaestores candidates answer!

VALETE,
Sabinus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91933 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-24
Subject: FW: [Explorator] explorator 16.31-32
Salvete
 
FYI
 
Vale
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus
 

From: rogueclassicist@...
To: Explorator@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:57:59 -0500
Subject: [Explorator] explorator 16.31-32

 
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explorator 16.31-32                            November 24, 2013
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Editor's note: Most urls should be active for at least eight
hours from the time of publication.

For your computer's protection, Explorator is sent in plain text
and NEVER has attachments (other than the odd youtube video).
Be suspicious of any Explorator which arrives otherwise!!!

n.b. It has come to my attention that several mail carriers are
now filtering mail with lots of links (like explorator) as spam.
You might want to add Explorator to your address book or whatever
to ensure it gets through.
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Thanks to Arthur Shippee, Dave Sowdon, Edward Rockstein, Kurt Theis,
John McMahon, Barnea Selavan, Joseph Lauer, Mike Ruggeri,
Wilfried Zankl, Floris Strijbos, Bob Heuman, Rochelle Altman,
Hernan Astudillo, Alfred Kriman, Jim Lockmiller, Dorothy Lobel King,
Carolyn Snively, Don Buck, Trevor Ogden, Joan Brady, Wendy van Duivenvoorde,
Richard Campbell, Richard C. Griffiths,and Ross W. Sargent for
headses upses this week (as always hoping I have left no one out).

n.b. The problem with dead links seems to be -- for the most part --
specific to yahoomail users (although some .edu addresses seem
also to be affected). If this doesn't apply to you, all I can
suggest is that you cut and paste the following link to read it
via yahoo's site:

http://www.yahoogroups.com/neo/groups/Explorator/conversations/topics

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EARLY HOMINIDS
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I honestly don’t quite understand this stone-tipped spears earlier than ‘humans’ story:

http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/stone-tipped-spears-pre-date-existence-of-humans-131113.htm
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/stoneage-steve-jobs-who-invented-stone-throwing-spears-was-not-even-a-human-say-scientists/story-fnjwl2dr-1226760914934

cf http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0078092

… nor this one on the “evolution” of music:

http://news.discovery.com/animals/monkey-human-ancestors-got-music-30-million-years-ago-131112.htm


Denisovan DNA suggests there was some other hominid mixing inolved:

http://www.nature.com/news/mystery-humans-spiced-up-ancients-rampant-sex-lives-1.14196
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/steamy-gene-pool-extinct-human-relatives-had-sex-mystery-ancestor-2D11623882
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24603-mystery-human-species-emerges-from-denisovan-genome.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2510219/Ancient-humans-rampantly-interbred-Neanderthals-mystery-species-Lord-Of-The-Rings-style-word-different-creatures.html
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/20/ancient-humans-interbred-with-neanderthals-and-mystery-species-in-lord-of-the-rings-world/
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/11/19/DNA-of-early-hominid-found-to-include-mystery-early-genes/UPI-70651384895737/
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38361/title/Ancient-Genomes-Reveal-Secrets/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/11/long-first-age-mankind/#.Uo0cdOIyHZk

Elsewhere on the DNA front is the discovery of the ‘immune gene’ in Neanderthals:

http://phys.org/news/2013-11-team-immune-gene-neanderthals.html

http://www.sciencecodex.com/research_team_discovers_immune_gene_in_neanderthals-123567

… which is possibly a good thing, since they’ve also found traces of Neanderthal viruses in modern human DNA:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131119230442.htm
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-virus-dna-neanderthal-genome-modern.html
http://www.universityherald.com/articles/5725/20131121/neanderthal-viruses-found-in-human-dna-scientists-explore-connection-to-cancer-hiv-aids.htm
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24598-neanderthal-virus-dna-spotted-hiding-in-modern-humans.html
http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/science-denisovan-neanderthal-viruses-human-dna-01558.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2509455/Neanderthal-viruses-dating-500-000-years-discovered-modern-human-DNA.html
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/neanderthal-viruses-human-dna-170003377.html
http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2013/131119.html

cf http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2813%2901269-4   (summary)
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822%2813%2901269-4  (full text)

Remains of a Neanderthal camp in the Netherlands:

http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/nc/nieuws/bericht/vondst-neanderthalerkampement/
http://www.iamexpat.nl/read-and-discuss/expat-page/news/neanderthal-camp-major-dutch-find

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/neanderthal-stone-tools-flakes-discovered-netherlands

They’ve also found evidence that Neanderthals knew how to make string:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029432.800-worlds-oldest-string-found-at-french-neanderthal-site.html
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/neanderthal-string-theory
cf http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379113003788  (abstract)

They’re finding plenty of items of interest in that Rising Star Cave system:

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/11/12/multiple-ancient-hominids-found-on-day-2-of-rising-star-expedition/
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/cave-women-unearth-skull-unknown-human-ancestor-2D11603661
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/rising-star-cave-produces-over-200-hominin-fossils
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/dig-hominid-bones-begins-cradle-humankind-003049019.html
http://www.livescience.com/41113-cradle-of-humankind-fossil-excavation.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/dig-hominid-bones-begins-deep-cradle-humankind-2D11577467
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/11/12/dig-for-hominid-bones-begins-in-cradle-humankind/
http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/23f5390041c15837a3ffaf1c2eddf908/Excavation-for-fossils-begins-at-the-Cradle-of-Humankind

… and the Rising Star Expedition has a blog to follow:

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/blog/rising-star-expedition/

On “cavemen” and the accuracy of their cave paintings, comparatively speaking:

http://discovermagazine.com/2013/dec/06-cave-painters-had-a-leg-up-on-modern-artists

Feature on Neanderthals:

http://discovermagazine.com/2013/dec/22-20-things-you-didnt-know-aboutneanderthals#.UpHrlifzM7A

Latest (it seems) reconstructions of what some early hominids looked like:

http://www.culture24.org.uk/science-and-nature/science-history/art458956

More on Neanderthals and toothpicks:

http://blogs.plos.org/everyone/2013/11/13/picked-clean-neanderthals-use-of-toothpicks-to-fight-toothache/
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AFRICA
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The petroglyphs of Asli Rich in Morocco are in danger

http://www.leconomiste.com/article/912693-smara-le-site-arch-ologique-asli-rich-en-p-ril 
(French)

Overviewish thing on studies of Nigeria’s Nok culture:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-s-nok-culture-excites-german-scholars/163831/
http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/25959-nok-culture-stuns-germany.html
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ANCIENT NEAR EAST AND EGYPT
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A pair of ‘amateur archaeologists’ managed to scrape some paint off the walls
of a chamber for the Cheops pyramid (!):

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/cheops-pyramide-deutsche-hobbyforscher-kratzen-proben-von-der-decke-a-934939.html

Brief item on five pharaonic heads being found near Luxor:

http://phys.org/news/2013-11-pharaonic-statue-egypt.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hZGeYNCHdj-X-xJLwcm3NIVXKqEg?docId=285de648-4dd1-4c34-bce6-fe1923a968ab
http://artdaily.com/news/66314/Five-pharaonic-statue-heads-found-in-Egypt-
http://www.france24.com/en/20131116-five-pharaonic-statue-heads-found-egypt
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/18/archaeologists-discover-five-4000-year-old-heads-of-royal-statues-from-the-pharaonic-era/
http://news.yahoo.com/five-pharaonic-statue-heads-found-egypt-182827533.html
http://luxortimesmagazine.blogspot.co.at/2013/11/five-statues-heads-with-crowns-found-in.html

A couple of other  3500 years b.p. statues (a priest and a scribe) from Luxor as well:

http://www.newkerala.com/news/story/89306/happy-birth-day-rekha.html#.UpH7RSfzM7A
http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/statues-dating-back-3-500-years-discovered-egypt-020413784.html
http://my.news.yahoo.com/statues-dating-back-3-500-years-discovered-egypt-020004370.html
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/agencia-efe/131113/statues-dating-back-3500-years-discovered-at-egypt-temple

Brief item on the find of a pair of Thutmose III statues:

http://www.sis.gov.eg/En/Templates/Articles/tmpArticleNews.aspx?ArtID=71143

… this seems to be related:

http://luxortimesmagazine.blogspot.co.at/2013/11/new-findings-at-tuthmosis-iii-mortuary.html

On ‘meat mummies”:

http://phys.org/news/2013-11-ancient-egyptians-balms-flavor-mummified.html
http://phys.org/news304084728.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/ancient-egypt-even-lunch-was-carefully-mummified-2D11603451

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2013/11/18/meat-mummy-buried-with-ancient-egyptians-was-lovingly-preserved/

Tut’s sister was stolen during that Mallawi Museum carnage and is still missing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10449689/Tutankhamuns-sister-goes-missing.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/11/king-tuts-sister-stolen-in-massive-museum-heist/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507516/Egypt-issues-alert-return-statue-Tutankhamuns-sister-experts-fear-stolen-order-rioting-summer.html

They figured out why that Egyptian statue in the Manchester Museum was spinning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25034950
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510325/Mystery-rotating-statue-solved-4-000-year-old-artefact-turned-spot-vibrations-visitors-heavy-footfall.html

Feature on a pyramid-age love story:

http://www.livescience.com/41237-love-revealed-in-egypt-tomb.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/pyramid-age-love-story-comes-life-egyptian-tombs-vivid-color-2D11603592

Not sure what’s going on here, newswise, but the Independent is all agog over Zahi Hawass ‘banishing’ Beyonce from the pyramids:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/rude-beyonc-banned-from-pyramids-by-egypts-indiana-jones-8957818.html

… but most of what they’re yakking about happened back in 2009:

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2009/11/12/11729816-wenn-story.html?cid=rssentertainment

Italian technology being used to restore papyri in Egypt:

http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/culture/2013/11/18/Egypt-Italian-technology-save-Egyptian-museum-papyri_9638580.html

Egypt seized a pile of items being smuggled into Israel:

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Egypt-seizes-ancient-artifacts-being-smuggled-into-Israel-332222
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=648696

… not sure if this is the same or not:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=66155
http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/1.557448
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8269:egypt-recovers-90-pharaonic-artefacts-from-israel&catid=50:africa&Itemid=116

On a nude Canaanite goddess ‘conquering’ Egypt:

http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.557382

On the life of women in the ancient Levant:

http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.559113

Cuneiform writing found in Oman:

http://www.timesofoman.com/News/Article-25661.aspx#

Remains of an Elymais temple from southwestern Iran:

http://www.tehrantimes.com/arts-and-culture/112040-archaeologists-discover-ruins-of-elymais-temple-in-southwestern-iran
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/11/11/334152/southern-iran-yields-elymais-temple/

Interesting finds from Chalo (Iran):

http://www.tehrantimes.com/arts-and-culture/112142-archaeologists-discover-traces-of-bmac-in-northeastern-iran
http://tehrantimes.com/arts-and-culture/112191-new-findings-show-bronze-age-people-also-ate-kaleh-pacheh

Evidence of ritual meals in Mt Carmel caves some13000+ years b.p.:

http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-1.558690

Latest from Kultepe:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/monumental-structure-shown-to-be-largest-one-in-middle-east.aspx?pageID=238&nID=57678&NewsCatID=375
http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=122174

Plenty of excitement about a 3700 years b.p. ‘wine cellar’ from Tel Kabri:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/science/in-ruins-of-palace-a-wine-with-hints-of-cinnamon-and-top-notes-of-antiquity.html?_r=0
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/11/what-3-700-year-old-wine-tasted-like/281777/
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304337404579213652875322822
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2511820/Is-worlds-oldest-wine-cellar-Jars-containing-remains-mixture-4-000-years-ago-hint-recipes-using-cinnamon-mint-honey.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/11/22/old-wine-cellar-israel/366762
http://www.livescience.com/41418-oldest-palace-wine-cellar.html
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/610632/?sc=c5
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ancient-wine-cellar-reveals-sophisticated-drink
http://news.yahoo.com/oldest-royal-wine-cellar-uncorked-israel-131357119.html
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/usatoday/article/3667621
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/22/ancient-wine-cellar-canaanite-israel
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131122084543.htm
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-11/bu-adl112013.php
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/11/21/246581682/ancient-wine-bar-giant-jugs-of-vino-unearthed-in-3-700-year-old-cellar
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131122084543.htm
http://www.gwhatchet.com/2013/11/22/archeologists-uncover-one-of-worlds-oldest-wine-cellars/
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-team-civilization-oldest-wine-cellars.html
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/canaanite-wine-cellar-provides-taste-3700-year-old-wine

A First Temple (or earlier) altar from Shiloh:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174215
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=13467
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/archaeologists-find-shiloh-altar-used-during-temple-era/2013/11/20/
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/11/20/shiloh-altar-biblical-archaeology-provides-evidence-of-ancient-religious-center/

Evidence of a Canaanite city beneath the site of Gezer:

http://www.livescience.com/41143-city-found-under-canaanite-city.html
http://www.swbts.edu/campus-news/news-releases/archaeology-the-history-beneath-solomone28099s-city/
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/ancient-city-found-beneath-biblical-era-ruins-131118.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/ancient-city-beneath-gezer-israel_n_4297784.html
http://www.newser.com/story/177695/ancient-city-found-under-biblical-era-ruins.html

Feature on the dig at Karkemish:

http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/culture/2013/11/05/Turkey-Italian-archeologists-dig-the-eye-al-Qaeda_9572657.html?goback=.gde_690807_member_5799081206163206144#!

Byzantine burials from Kirsehir (Turkey):

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/male-bones-found-in-ancient-graves-in-turkeys-kirsehir.aspx?pageID=238&nID=57591&NewsCatID=375
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ancient-city-discovered-by-treasure-hunters.aspx?pageID=238&nID=58042&NewsCatID=375

The ‘lab side’ of a dig in Jordan:

http://www.knox.edu/news-and-events/news-archive/knox-professor-helps-students-explore-ceramic-analysis.html


Suggestion that the Israeli government “vandalized” the James Ossuary:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/11/11/israeli-govt-allegedly-vandalize-box-that-is-said-to-have-once-held-bones-jesus/
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/was-james-ossuary-biblical-relic-vandalized-131112.htm

Merchants and antiquities inspectors are feuding in Israel:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/antiquities-battle-pits-merchants-against-inspectors/?cat_orig=money
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.558122

An antiquities thief  (or thieves) caught red-handed in Israel:

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/pa-archaeological-robber-caught-red-handed-digging-up-artifacts/2013/11/17/
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Antiquities-Authority-arrests-looter-attempting-to-steal-buried-coins-332068

OpEddish on Samaria National Park:

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/culture/2013/11/palestinian-territory-archiology-national-park-samaria.html#

Feature on the Rosetta Stone:

http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/news/professor-analyzes-translation-on-rosetta-stone-1.3116326#.UpIG5ifzM7A

Jesus’ trial was apparently legal:

http://www.news.com.au/world/trial-of-jesus-was-perfectly-legal-scholar-finds-two-trials-under-jewish-and-roman-courts/story-fndir2ev-1226758611670
http://world.time.com/2013/11/13/study-jesus-crucifixion-was-legal/
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/19807935/law-professor-finds-jesus-trial-legal/
http://cathnews.com/cathnews/16046-trial-of-jesus-was-perfectly-legal-spanish-scholar-finds

More on the death and/or spontaneous combustion of Tut:

http://phys.org/news303386292.html
http://news.discovery.com/history/ancient-egypt/king-tut-death-by-chariot-not-so-fast-131112.htm
http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=66204
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/11/new-theory-king-tut-died-in-a-chariot-crash/
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ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME (AND CLASSICS)
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A statue of Kerberos (and others) from Hierapolis:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/11/20/gate-to-hell-guardians-recovered-in-turkey/
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/gate-to-hell-statues-recovered-in-turkey-131118.htm

...and they’re working at the necropolis too:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ancient-graves-under-restoration-at-hierapolis-ancient-city-in-turkeys-denizli.aspx?pageID=238&nID=58110&NewsCatID=375

A Roman villa and ‘spa’ from Loutraki:

http://thegreekstar.com/index.php/news/item/1896-archaeologists-unearth-ancient-roman-villa--spa-in-loutraki
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/11/12/ancient-roman-villa-and-spa-discovered-by-archaeologists-in-greece/

Latest finds from Portus:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10443764/Romans-destroyed-Portus-palace-as-barbarians-approached.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/12/archaeologists-secrets-portus-roman-empire-rome?INTCMP=SRCH
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/archaeologists-uncover-secrets-portus-gateway-rome

...and latest from the Battle of the Aegades site:

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/ancient-naval-battle-rises-above-the-waves

What they found in that lead coffin from Leicestershire:

http://www.tamworthherald.co.uk/REVEALED-finds-Tamworth-Roman-coffin/story-20067135-detail/story.html
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Contents-1-700-year-old-coffin-Leicestershire/story-20062882-detail/story.html#ixzz2kRbIXfg2
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/roman-coffin-video-see-inside-6293188
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/watch-team-warwickshire-archaeologists-open-6293148
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/roman-childs-coffin-holds-bone-bracelets-archaeologists-find-2D11591058
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-24919777
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24870507
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2502714/Sealed-lead-lined-casket-wearing-jet-bangles-girl-buried-Roman-Britain-1-700-years-ago.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

… some preliminary coverage:

http://www.therugbyobserver.co.uk/2013/11/13/news-Archaeologists-lift-lid-on-Roman-coffin-find-89615.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-24929437
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2502714/Archaeologists-open-1-700-year-old-Roman-childs-coffin--hope-lead-time-capsule-contain-keepsake.html
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coffin-clues-point-roman-girl-6324456

… and some important background issues:

http://www.bajrfed.co.uk/bajrpress/the-leicestershire-roman-lead-coffin/

Bulgarian archaeologists have found the tomb of a Thracian priestess:

http://www.novinite.com/articles/155753/Bulgarian+Archaeologists+Unveil+Tomb+of+Thracian+Priestess

Remains of a Roman amphitheatre in Split:

http://ansamed.ansa.it/ansamed/it/notizie/rubriche/cultura/2013/11/13/Archeologia-Croazia-Spalato-scoperto-anfiteatro-romano_9614761.html  (Italian)
http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/General_News/2013-11-14/34785/Remains_of_4th_century_amphitheatre_found_in_Split

Interesting ‘service corridor’ from Metropolis:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ancient-corridor-reveals-roman-social-life-traces.aspx?pageID=238&nID=57852&NewsCatID=375

3d reconstruction of Hadrian’s Villa:

http://www.livescience.com/41455-hadrians-villa-gaming-software-3d-models.html
http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=95450
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-roman-emperor-virtual-villa-unveiled.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-11/iu-rev112013.php
http://www.newswise.com/articles/iu-digital-archaeologist-to-unveil-ancient-roman-emperor-s-villa-virtually-on-friday

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/roman-emperor-hadrians-villa-brought-life-gaming-software-134159564.html

A pile of seals and amulets from various periods from a site at Duluk (Turkey):

http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/science-ancient-seals-amulets-turkey-01559.html
http://www.uni-muenster.de/Religion-und-Politik/en/aktuelles/2013/nov/PM_Ungewoehnlich_grosser_Siegelfund.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131118081040.htm
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-11/uom-mt6111813.php
http://phys.org/news303990760.html
http://my.news.yahoo.com/trove-religious-offerings-unearthed-ancient-sanctuary-turkey-155100608.html
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113006196/archaeologists-find-more-than-600-ancient-seals-amulets-turkey-111813/

In case you need to catch up on recent finds from London:

http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/science/discovery/sex-slaves-executions-in-roman-london-1.1600886

The Vatican has put St. Peter’s bones on display:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/24/vatican-st-peters-bones-display-pope-francis?CMP=twt_fd
http://www.timesunion.com/news/world/article/Vatican-unveils-bone-fragments-said-to-be-Peter-s-5007361.php
http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/world/article/Vatican-unveils-bone-fragments-said-to-be-Peter-s-5007361.php

… some preliminary hype:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2505095/The-bones-St-Peter-unveiled-public-time-Vatican-reveals.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

… while some newly-restored frescoes from the catacombs of St Priscilla seem to be
stirring up something:

http://world.time.com/2013/11/20/some-see-evidence-of-women-priests-in-reopened-catholic-catacombs/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2510473/Vatican-unveils-frescoes-Catacombs-Priscilla-paintings-FEMALE-PRIESTS.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25021623
http://news.yahoo.com/restored-rome-catacomb-frescoes-add-debate-women-priests-112948688--sector.html
http://news.yahoo.com/restored-rome-catacomb-frescoes-add-debate-women-priests-112948688--sector.html
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-vatican-unveils-catacombs-google.html
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Culture/Art/2013/Nov-21/238463-restored-rome-frescoes-add-to-debate-on-women-priests.ashx
http://www.montereyherald.com/religion/ci_24586066/vatican-unveils-new-frescoes-catacombs?source=rss
http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/women-priests-delighted-googles-vatican-catacombs-tour

… related:

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1304899.htm
http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/vatican-google-team-bring-ancient-christian-catacombs-light

The Vatican has also (re)started a journal called Latinitas:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/10437367/Vatican-gives-new-life-to-Latin-with-new-journal.html

The Lycurgus cup thing keeps coming back:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131121103613.htm
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-ancient-roman-glass-modern-science.html
http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=48559

HipHop Vergil:

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/hip-hop_hexameter_/id_63052

On Rodin and Greco-Roman antiquity:

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=66427

Roman mosaic from Stanwick Lake has gone on display:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-25047853

Stoicism continues  to ‘come back’:

http://www.channel4.com/news/rome-truths-why-ancient-stoicism-making-comeback-stoic-philosophy-derren-brown-stress

A pile of jewellery stolen from the Museum of Macedonia in Skopje:

http://www.balkantravellers.com/en/read/article/2390

A statue of Ganymede was stolen from a Carthage museum:

http://www.tunisia-live.net/2013/11/12/ancient-statue-stolen-from-museum-in-carthage/
http://www.lapresse.tn/10112013/74746/on-a-vole-ganymede.html

Sentencing in the Olympia Museum robbery:

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_21/11/2013_528773

Pondering ‘classical’:

http://blogs.providencejournal.com/ri-talks/architecture-here-there/2013/11/eric-daums-why-classical-keynote-at-bulfinches.html

What Sarah Scullin is up to:

http://www.knox.edu/news-and-events/news-archive/classics-professor-studies-the-experience-of-pain.html

What Aaron Seider is up to:

http://news.holycross.edu/blog/2013/11/21/for-classics-professor-memory-in-vergils-aeneid-not-a-thing-of-the-ancient-past/

Review of Margalit Fox, *The Riddle of  the Labyrinth*:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/dec/05/what-was-greek-to-them/
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http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/recent.html

Visit our blog:

http://rogueclassicism.com/
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EUROPE AND THE UK (+ Ireland)
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Evidence that dog domestication began in Europe 18000-32000 years b.p.:

http://phys.org/news/2013-11-dogs-europe-years.html
http://www.universityherald.com/articles/5583/20131114/the-fascinating-and-conflicting-story-of-ancient-domesticated-dogs.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24946944
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38279/title/Origin-of-Domestic-Dogs/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507328/Best-friends-30-000-years-Genetic-testing-proves-dog-ancestors-formed-special-bond-man-Ice-Age.html
http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/231942881.html
http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/11/canine-conundrum-did-dog-days-dawn-in-europe/
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/1114/Is-your-dog-descended-from-an-ancient-European-wolf-video
http://www.philly.com/philly/living/pets/20131114_ap_b12f43c3edb841f8a6be50d10abe5306.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6160/871
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2013/11/14/dogs-first-domesticated-in-europe-dna-suggests/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=update-for-when-wolf-became-woof-13-11-14
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38279/title/Origin-of-Domestic-Dogs/
http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/10930/20131115/dogs-evolved-wolves-tamed-european-hunters-19-000-years-ago.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/11/15/3891538.htm
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/14/health/dogs-domesticated-europe/
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-dogs-domesticated-in-europe-20131114,0,2657010.story

Oldest pocket calendar?:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2511828/Could-worlds-oldest-pocket-calendar-Engraved-tusk-told-farmers-harvest-crops-8-000-years-ago.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Interesting deformed skull burial (4000 years b.p.) from France:

http://www.livescience.com/41244-deformed-skull-burial-in-france.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/17/deformed-skull-dark-ages-france_n_4292207.html
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/deformed-pointy-skull-from-dark-ages-found-131118.htm#mkcpgn=rssnws1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2509436/The-1-650-year-old-French-aristocrats-skull-deliberately-deformed.html
http://www.ecanadanow.com/science/2013/11/19/conehead-skul-found-in-france-photo/
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/11/18/deformed-pointy-skull-from-dark-ages-unearthed/
http://www.newsmax.com/SciTech/deformed-female-skulls-france/2013/11/18/id/537346
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/deformed-conehead-skull-dark-ages-unearthed-france-2D11603324

A 3500 years b.p. child burial from Scotland:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507270/Monreith-skeleton-little-boy-reveals-starved-death-3-500-years-ago.html

Finds from various periods along the Limerick Southern Ring Road:

http://www.limerickpost.ie/2013/11/15/time-travel-on-the-southern-ring-road/

A Celtic inscription from North Devon:

http://www.northdevongazette.co.uk/news/ancient_celtic_stone_unveiled_in_barnstaple_museum_1_3003494


Another possible source for Stonehenge’s bluestones:

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/nov/20/archaeologists-stonehenge-origins-wrong-place
http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/megaliths-and-prehistoric-archaeology/art459092
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stonehenge-archaeologists-been-digging-wrong-2813818
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25004282

… and a Stonehenge bone display is being protested, of course:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-24987374

Bronze Age finds from a WWII airfield in Suffolk:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-25057532

They’re checking out that skeleton from Lincoln Castle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-25025768
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-24945970

… related:

http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/news/1000-year-old-saxon-sarcophagus-excavation-underway-at-lincoln-castle/118315.article
http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/Saxon-coffin-excavated-Lincoln-Castle/story-20080513-detail/story.html#axzz2lZxC8HkO




An Anglo Saxon backgammon piece:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/22/gambling-anglo-saxons-archaeological-find
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25041254
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/11/2013/gambling-high-living-anglo-saxons-revealed-archaeological-find

A ‘Crusader’ burial from Finland:

http://yle.fi/uutiset/thousand-year_old_swordsman_rises_from_the_earth/6934793

Medieval finds near Durham Cathedral:

http://www.then

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91934 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Salve Sulla et omnes,

I will give my comments within the original text for the sake of clarity.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91935 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Candidate for Consul - C. Aemilius Crassus
C. Aemilius Crassus quiritibus SPD,

I come to you to present my candidacy for Consul in the upcoming elections in the Comitia Centuriata.

I am citizen of Nova Roma since 2760 AVC (2007) and I am 42 years old. I fulfill all legal requisites to be candidate to the office of Consul.

I have served as Diribitor, Scriba Curulis Aedilis to Cn. Iulius Caesar, Tribunus Plebis, Scriba Praetoris to C. Petronius Dexter and Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia, Legatus pro Praetore Provincia Hispania, Lictor Novae Romae and I'm actually serving as Praetor. I believe to have performed all my duties honorably and well in these positions.

I think I have proved to be able to work with dedication for Nova Roma, that I'm ready to hear and consider other persons ideas and in the end if a compromise is not possible to agree in disagree but without entering in personal disputes.

I believe Nova Roma to be in the path to recover from our recent troubles and in this year a great step was made with the correction of our election legislation allowing normal and more frequent participation of the citizens within our community life. But much more is needed and although I don't expect all to be made in the next year I would like to focus on some points:

- Provincial activities - Without entering in the field of action of the governors I want to work with them to look for ways to increase citizens participation at local level.
- Sodalitates activities - This is other area where we will need to look for increased activity and way for citizen participation.

On the overall we need to keep growing both in citizen number and in activity and to try both to increase income and reduce expense with the medium objective of having funds to initiate new projects.

I'm convinced Nova Roma has a fundamental roll in discover how we can bring the ancient virtues of dedication to the public life and community to our modern times. Since so much is lost we must work as a community to decide what and how it can be adapt to our days, debate, defend paths each of us believe but in the end accept our decisions as a community always respecting the right of all citizens to practice their Romanitas and religion in their ways.

With the propose of advance those objectives I present myself for the office of Consul and ask for your vote in the upcoming elections.

I also would like to express my happiness in seeing Aeternia running for the Consulship. I have the greatest friendship and respect to Aeternia but above all I know she will be a great Consul of Nova Roma with nothing but the best interest of our community in hearth and I ask also all citizens to give her your votes.

Finally I know these elections for the Consulship are uncontested, which sadness me greatly, but even if my and Aeternia elections are certain I ask you all citizens who believe we have proven to be worthy candidates to the consulship to cast your votes on us. In great part I will consider my office as Consul a success if next year we will have more candidates and I will work hard to that objective.

Valete optime,
Crassus

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91936 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Update on the Schedule of the Comitia
Avete Omnes,

I have to adjust the scheduling of the Comitia Populi.  I have been absolutely swamped and I need to post the final drafts of the laws, which I am working on today and want to have posted this evening.

The schedule will be as follows:

9:00 pm November 21st - Contio is Open
9:01 pm November 28th - Contio is Closed
9:01 pm November 29th - Voting is Open
9:01 pm December 5rd - Voting is Closed
9:01 pm December 6th - Comitia is officially closed.

I do apologize for any inconvenience.  

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91937 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Thanks/Honorific
Salvete Romans,
 
As my term draws to a close I wanted to thank you for the opportunity to serve
as Censor these last two years. I also wanted to thank my two colleagues , Aula Tullia Scholastica
and Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, for their support and hard work on behalf of the republic.  
 
My sincere thanks also go to the very talented members of the Censors staff for their
patience, knowledge, talents, time and commitment to the republic.
 
Honorific
 
I also want to take this opportunity to bestow the agnomen Sagax on Gnaeus Iulius Caesar
who shall now  be known as 
 
Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Sagax.
 
Sagax is THE perfect word to describe my friend Caesar as he is
 
 "  intellectually quick, keen, acute, shrewd, sagacious"
 
I would like to thank Cn. Cornelius Lentulus for his assistance in this matter.
 
Valete,
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus
Censor et Senator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91938 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave!

My comments below:


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91939 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Thanks/Honorific
Caninus Pauline spd.

Your service as censor for the past two years has been exemplary. You
have worked well with your colleagues and staff while maintaining your
principles and an independent and objective viewpoint. I thank you very
much for the work you have done. I am sure many other citizens also
appreciate your service as censor and look forward to your service once
again as tribunus plebis in the coming year.


By the way, that was a fantastic choice of an agnomen for Caesar.


Fac valeas!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.





-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Thanks/Honorific
From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@... Date: Mon, November 25, 2013 11:15 am
To: "nova-roma@yahoogroups.com" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com SenatusRomanus <senatusromanus@yahoogroups.com

Salvete Romans,

As my term draws to a close I wanted to thank you for the opportunity to
serve
as Censor these last two years. I also wanted to thank my two colleagues
, Aula Tullia Scholastica
and Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, for their support and hard work on behalf of
the republic.

My sincere thanks also go to the very talented members of the Censors
staff for their
patience, knowledge, talents, time and commitment to the republic.

Honorific

I also want to take this opportunity to bestow the agnomen Sagax on
Gnaeus Iulius Caesar
who shall now be known as

Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Sagax.

Sagax is THE perfect word to describe my friend Caesar as he is

" intellectually quick, keen, acute, shrewd, sagacious"

I would like to thank Cn. Cornelius Lentulus for his assistance in this
matter.

Valete,

Ti. Galerius Paulinus
Censor et Senator
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91940 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Caninus Crasse Sullae omnibusque sal.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91941 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave Amice,

I do not see your comments or am I missing them?

Respectfully,

Sulla



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91942 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Caninus Crasse Sullae omnibusque sal.


xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)
Caninus: Another issue that this sub-paragraph could address is attempting to disrupt voting in comitia by posting messages that either promote, on one hand, or criticize, on the other hand, a candidate, a proposed lex or a party to a trial (actor or reus), while voting is taking place and after contio has officially ended. Repeated messages in the public fora that are meant to sway the votes one way or the other seems to be a clear violation of proper conduct to me. So, I would argue that the wording of this sub-paragraph might be unclear or require some more work for a different reason. The words 'disrupting and/or terminating' may lead future praetores to believe the intent here is to punish actions that prevent eligible citizens from having the chance to cast their votes, which is fine. However, a more general prohibition on any improper conduct that might affect the outcome of a vote seems appropriate here. It has been a while since we have had a trial or a heavily contentious election for office but our code of conduct should provide penalties for more than just disrupting or terminating a vote.



Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91943 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave,

In almost every election that Nova Roma has had there have been mud sling-ed at one, some or all the candidates.  This is the Roman way of politics, posting recommendations, suggestions on who to vote for does not meet the threshold of established of intending to dispute or terminate a Comitia summons, at all.  

A person or even persons saying such a candidate should ever not hold the office for whatever reason dos not affect the Comitia as a whole nor threaten to terminate the Comitia.

Remember the key is to dispute the Comitia and terminate the Comitia.  Something to meet that threshold would not affect the candidates running for office, per see, but most likely the presiding magistrate, election organizer (the individual who uploads the contents to votingplace.net or the Cista) and the vote counters who are in charge of overseeing and counting the votes cast.  

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91944 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Salve Sulla!

Yes, I agree with the intent. And I wholeheartedly agree that mudslinging during an election is par for the course and completely acceptable Roman behavior. But I do not believe it is appropriate while voting is in progress. To put this in terms that may be more familiar to you: discussing matters directly related to a candidate or lex while the vote is in progress is akin to discussing corporate performance during an SEC filing 'quiet period'. You are certainly correct that such discussions will likely have minimal effect on citizens choices and zero effect on the election officials and presiding magistrate. But even so, repeated attempts to stir up debate outside of the contio and during the actual voting period is disruptive and improper conduct, in my opinion, and should not be tolerated. Fortunately, the praetores, having control of who is and is not on moderation in the public fora can take action to ensure individuals are warned, and when appropriate moderated, for their behavior. But I would like to see your intent expanded a bit to include violations of the 'quiet period' as a kind of disruption. It's not a big deal.

Vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91945 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave Caninus,

Here is the problem fine line.  The law as written specifically states that the intent must be to disrupt or terminate the Comitia.

The fine line is that citizens do have the right to participate in the official public fora of Nova Roma.  Section II.B.4 of the Constitution.  

Now the way I see you leading this conversation's path is that if conversations continue after the Contio has ended then that would be akin, or outright disruption of the Contio, am I correct in this view?   If I am, here is my response to that.

Nova Roma has never imposed any restriction on citizens continuing the discussion of the topics after the closing of the Contio.  I do not believe for a second the Romans stopped talking about the election ongoings while they were voting, if that was the case then why did C. Marius see the need to promulgate legislation shortening the width of the bridges that the voters took when he was Tribune of the Plebs?  This proposed law does not restrict free speech from continuing despite the ending of the Contio.  What it does do is akin to a citizen taking upon themselves of shouting Fire in a crowded Comitia for the purposes of causing disruption and trying to end the Contio prematurely.

The intent of the law is sufficient in that regard.  Disruption online is not someone calling me a Dictator.  But someone preventing me from using my constitutionally allowed powers when I have fulfilled the obligations and requirements with regards to the Comitia.

Remember, amice, even if a Praetor does happen to take such a BROAD view that goes beyond the written scope, which given Nova Roma's history might at least be attempted.  There are more checks in this law....no Praetor may impose any sentence or judgement until the Princeps Senatus reviews the accusation, rationale and basically every form of judicial Review.  I can state right now, since I am Princep Senatus of Nova Roma no Praetor will be able to make that stretch under my watch and have it move through the Senate.  On top of that, that same Praetor may see him or herself having to defend their actions to the Senate for taking such extreme an overstep.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91946 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Put another way:

I do not believe that someone standing in the saepta on the Campus Martius yelling, "Sulla sucks, vote for me," while the tribes were assembled for an election during the Republic, would be allowed to stand there for very long before being forcefully ejected. We live in a different day and time, of course, and our elections require days to conduct in order to allow everyone a chance to vote instead of just one day as in ancient Rome. But just as electioneering is not permitted near the polls here in the United States when the polls are open, electioneering in the public fora of Nova Roma while the polls are open should be prohibited. Enough said on this subject --- I'll look at the lex again to see if anything else might catch my eye.

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91947 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
You're right. The Nova Roma public fora are also the same space where we gather the assemblies and we do not have a true saepta and we do not rope off the tribes and centuries. So, in that regard, we need to be very careful about imposing any restrictions on free speech --- even during voting. But your example of Marius' lex to narrow the bridges actually supports my view. Observers and those outside of a particular tribe or century discussing the way citizens within that tribe or century should vote, or trying to influence their votes, was considered a problem. 

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91948 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave,

Actually it was intimidation.  Which I guess one could in this case. 

As tribune, Marius proposed a bill affecting procedure in elections and legislative assemblies by narrowing the bridges—the gangway across which each voter passed to fill in and deposit his ballot tablet—as a result of which there was no longer room on the gangway for observers, normally aristocrats, who abused their position to influence an individual’s vote.


As tribune, Marius proposed a bill that effectively limited the influence of aristocrats on elections. In passing the bill, he temporarily alienated the Metelli. As a consequence, he failed in his bids to become aedile, although he did (barely) manage to become praetor.


While serving as tribune he introduced a law concerning the mode of voting, which, as it was thought, would lessen the power of the nobles in judicial cases; whereupon Cotta the consul opposed him and persuaded the senate to contest the law, and to summon Marius before it to explain his procedure. The senate voted to do this, and Marius appeared before it. He did not, however, behave like a young man who had just entered political life without any brilliant services behind him, but assumed at once the assurance which his subsequent achievements gave him, and threatened to hale Cotta off to prison unless he had the vote rescinded. 3

In the end, any person who decides to run for office, just like in any macronational country, should expect to encounter individuals who are both in favor and against their candidacy as is the nature of politics.  Imposing HARSH restrictions once the Contio ends is not the purpose of the clause in question.  The only restriction has to deal with disruption and trying to terminate the Comitia.  Candidates and even laws getting slammed in opposition or in favor, even after the Contio ends does not equal disruption and would have no affect on the procedural process of the Comitia.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91949 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Avete Omnes,

As I am working on the final drafts of the two laws....I have been thinking about Intimidation.  

What we have been having on this thread discussion in the last few posts is a discussion of can intimidation lead to disruption and termination of the Comitia?  I do not believe so.  The Lex is written does not recognize in item ix as a means of ceasing posts that can be construed even by the loosest determination of intimidation.  Well, because of a couple of reasons.

First, it is covered under item ii of the same Lex Cornelia Poenalis when it states, "                                                               i.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)"  Which is a more serious charge if someone does cross the line to this area;

Second, there are other venues of dealing with situations that can be viewed as disrupting the ML and all official public fora of Nova Roma because they naturally fall under the jurisdiction of the Praetors.  They have issued Edicta that set administrative procedures in governing the official public fora.

Finally, the Censores can get involved by issuing Nota. 

The scope of xi deals with the interference of the runnings of the Comitia within Nova Roma.   We do not need laws to overlap and create jurisdictional squabbles over who has the bigger imperium stick to deal with the occasional case of disruption.  This is why the law has been carefully crafted to focus it's attention on those areas that have a possible impact on the Organization being able to run smoothly and as efficiently as possible. While at the same time protecting the rights and giving citizens ample opportunity to provide a defense and speedy resolution to any administrative issue while ensuring no one single person may decide their fate.

Most Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul

The 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91950 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Open fo

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91951 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Open fo

 

I.                    The lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuratis is hereby repealed.

II.                  The preconditions for admittance to the Ordo are:

a.       That the person be an Assiduus classified citizen of Nova Roma

b.      Admission to the Ordo Equester is voluntary and occurs only if the citizen accepts the honor.

c.       That the citizen applying must have:

                                                               i.      A total of at least 220 census points, in which case membership is permanent subject to the citizen maintaining a balance of census points that totals at least 220. Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

or

                                                             ii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for business contributions for Ordo membership by any citizen operating a business within Nova Roma, or legally utilising any assets of Nova Roma.  Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

or

                                                            iii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for donative contributions for Ordo membership. Membership is permanent and no further donative contribution shall be required for the citizen to maintain membership of the Ordo. Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

or

                                                           iv.      Be chosen by one censor for outstanding service to Nova Roma. A Censor may only choose one citizen during his/her two year term as censor. Membership of the Ordo through this means shall not result in advance for the citizen in the centuries and/or classes, though advancement may occur by accruing more census points through the normal public service criteria. A Suffect Censor can not choose any citizen. Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

 

III.                The requirements for continued membership in the Ordo Equester are:

a.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.i permanent, but subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

b.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.ii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the business contribution amount for the year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the business contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further business contributions shall be required. A person operating a business within Nova Roma is not eligible to apply for membership of the ordo by virtue of donative contributions as at II.c below.

c.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.iii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the donative contribution amount for that year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the donative contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further donative contributions shall be required.

d.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.iv permanent, subject to that citizen not resigning or being banished and also subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

 

IV.                The process for admittance to the Ordo:

a.       Is automatic for I.b.i and not requiring Censorial approval, collegiate or otherwise.

b.      Is subject to the Censors acting in a collegiate manner to admit a citizen for I.b.ii to I.b.iv inclusive.

c.       Does not require any public reason to be published to support the decision to admit a person.

d.      Requires that the Censors set the amount of census points for the citizens initially admitted under I.b.ii to I.b.iii inclusive at 220 should they be less than 220.

 

V.     The process for rejection of an application to be admitted to the Ordo does not require the Censors to publish a reason for rejection, nor for the censors to provide the person applying with the reasons for rejection. The Censors shall however inform a citizen whose application has been rejected of the fact of rejection, but there is no requirement placed upon the Censors to supply that citizen with the reasons for rejection.

 

VI.   The number of centuries shall be determined based on the number of Assidui citizens in Nova Roma.  The Comitia Centuriata will have 31 Centuries that will be divided into 5 classes.  The addition of new centuries to the Comitia Centuriata will be structured to coincide to benchmarks of Assidui citizens.

a.       300 and fewer Assidui citizens will result in 31 Centuries

b.      301-600 Assidui citizens will result in 61 Centuries

c.       601 -1200 Assidui Citizens will result in 91 Centuries

d.      1201-1800 Assidui Citizens will result in 121 Centuries

e.      1801-2400 Assidui Citizens will result in 151 Centuries

f.        2401 and above Assidui Citizens will result in 193 Centuries.

VII. The Censores may no longer alter the makeup of the centuries by class.   The Censores are tasked to ensure that each class is properly filled with the appropriate citizens in compliance to existing legislation.  If there are centuries assigned to classes that do not have the citizens to fill those centuries then the Censores cannot fill those centuries.

a.       The Number of Census points will determine what class citizens are allocated in the Comitia Centuriata. 

                                                               i.      If Citizens hold 220 or more Census Points and have accepted enrollment into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to that Class and appropriate Century.

                                                             ii.      If Citizens hold between 140-219 Census points OR have not accepted membership into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to the First Class of Centuries.

                                                            iii.      If Citizens census points fall within the 100 – 139 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Second class.

                                                           iv.      If Citizens census points fall within the 50-99 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Third class.

                                                             v.      If Citizens census points fall within the 35-49 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fourth class.

                                                           vi.      If Citizens census points fall within 17-34 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fifth class.

                                                          vii.      If Citizens census points do not meet the minimum threshold of 16 Census points they will be allocated to the Capite Censi Century.

VIII.                        The relative sizes of each class shall be set as follows:

a.       Class I: 49% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century in this class shall be composed of all those members of the Ordo Equester who have accepted membership into the Ordo Equester.  This will be referred to as Century 1.

b.      Class II: 10% of the total number of Centuries

c.       Class III: 10% of the total number of Centuries

d.      Class IV: 10% of the total number of Centuries

e.      Class V:    15% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century within class V is reserved for the Capite Censi Only.

f.        Within each class, the number of citizens is to be spread as equitable as possible.  With the exception of those individual centuries that have extra requirements (Section VIII,a,i and Section VIII,e,i).  The Censors are instructed to ensure each class is properly and equitable represented.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91952 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments

Introduction:  Nova Roma must have a method to administer and adjudicate conflicts between 

citizens.  This has been an area of ongoing concern since Nova Roma was created.  The most 

recent attempt, the Leges Salicia, have not been successful.  There are multiple problems with

the Leges Salicia.  The recent unpleasantness with the trials that Nova Roma have gone

through have proven beyond a doubt that Nova Roma needed to rethink how we balance the 

need for conflict resolution while taking steps to ensure the protection of the Organization.  

This law achieves that balance.


I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.

II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the procedures within and for Nova Roma, other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal. 

III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.

IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.

V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:

a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors

b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate

c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.

d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.

e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.

f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.

VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:

a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :

                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)

                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)

                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)

                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)

                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)

                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)

                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)

                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)

                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)

c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:

                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.

                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:

1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.

2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.

3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.

4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.

5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.

6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.

a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.

7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.

8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.

                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:

1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.

2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.

3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.

c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.

4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years

c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years

                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.

                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.

                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.

d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.

e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.

f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:

                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       

                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years

                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years

                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year

 

VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 

a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.

b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.  Citizens also have a right to know the accusations and evidence presented against them.

c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote.

VIII         Upon enactment of this lex, the only lawful method of subsequently superseding, amending or repealing this lex must be by way of a vote in the Comitia Centuriata that must achieve an extraordinary majority  of 2/3s or greater (67%  or greater) of the total Centuries.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91953 From: Timothy or Stephen Gallagher Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
SULLLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This is the greatest Lex in the history of the republic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Congratulations.
 
Vale
 
Ti. Galerius Paulinus
 

To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com; backalley@yahoogroups.com; novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com
From: robert.woolwine@...
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:53:31 -0700
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Open for Comments

 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91954 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
LOL well I aim to please! ;)


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91955 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-25
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Pauline,

You must be a libertarian. LOL! I mean, I can see a need to get rid of big government but if every law looked like this there wouldn't be any government. ;)

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis

 
 


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91956 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Ave!

I forgot one final clause:

Introduction

I.                    The lex Octavia altera de comitiis centuratis is hereby repealed.

II.                  The preconditions for admittance to the Ordo are:

a.       That the person be an Assiduus classified citizen of Nova Roma

b.      Admission to the Ordo Equester is voluntary and occurs only if the citizen accepts the honor.

c.       That the citizen applying must have:

                                                               i.      A total of at least 220 census points, in which case membership is permanent subject to the citizen maintaining a balance of census points that totals at least 220. Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

or

                                                             ii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for business contributions for Ordo membership by any citizen operating a business within Nova Roma, or legally utilising any assets of Nova Roma.  Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

or

                                                            iii.      Contributed during the year in which he/she applies the minimum amount set annually by the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) for donative contributions for Ordo membership. Membership is permanent and no further donative contribution shall be required for the citizen to maintain membership of the Ordo. Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

or

                                                           iv.      Be chosen by one censor for outstanding service to Nova Roma. A Censor may only choose one citizen during his/her two year term as censor. Membership of the Ordo through this means shall not result in advance for the citizen in the centuries and/or classes, though advancement may occur by accruing more census points through the normal public service criteria. A Suffect Censor can not choose any citizen. Upon acceptance of the offer the citizen will be duly enrolled.

 

III.                The requirements for continued membership in the Ordo Equester are:

a.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.i permanent, but subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

b.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.ii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the business contribution amount for the year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the business contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further business contributions shall be required. A person operating a business within Nova Roma is not eligible to apply for membership of the ordo by virtue of donative contributions as at II.c below.

c.       For those citizens admitted under I.b.iii renewed annually and subject to the citizen making the donative contribution amount for that year of renewal.  After ten years of uninterrupted and continuous payments of the donative contributions required, membership shall become permanent and no further donative contributions shall be required.

d.      For those citizens admitted under I.b.iv permanent, subject to that citizen not resigning or being banished and also subject to the citizen retaining a balance of at least 220 census points. Should the citizen suffer a reduction in census points that results in his/her total being less than 220 census points, removal from the Ordo is deemed automatic, and the Censores shall upon such reduction reflect this change in the Album Civium and note the reason in the Censorial record for that citizen.

 

IV.                The process for admittance to the Ordo:

a.       Is automatic for I.b.i and not requiring Censorial approval, collegiate or otherwise.

b.      Is subject to the Censors acting in a collegiate manner to admit a citizen for I.b.ii to I.b.iv inclusive.

c.       Does not require any public reason to be published to support the decision to admit a person.

d.      Requires that the Censors set the amount of census points for the citizens initially admitted under I.b.ii to I.b.iii inclusive at 220 should they be less than 220.

 

V.     The process for rejection of an application to be admitted to the Ordo does not require the Censors to publish a reason for rejection, nor for the censors to provide the person applying with the reasons for rejection. The Censors shall however inform a citizen whose application has been rejected of the fact of rejection, but there is no requirement placed upon the Censors to supply that citizen with the reasons for rejection.

 

VI.   The number of centuries shall be determined based on the number of Assidui citizens in Nova Roma.  The Comitia Centuriata will have 31 Centuries that will be divided into 5 classes.  The addition of new centuries to the Comitia Centuriata will be structured to coincide to benchmarks of Assidui citizens.

a.       300 and fewer Assidui citizens will result in 31 Centuries

b.      301-600 Assidui citizens will result in 61 Centuries

c.       601 -1200 Assidui Citizens will result in 91 Centuries

d.      1201-1800 Assidui Citizens will result in 121 Centuries

e.      1801-2400 Assidui Citizens will result in 151 Centuries

f.        2401 and above Assidui Citizens will result in 193 Centuries.

VII. The Censores may no longer alter the makeup of the centuries by class.   The Censores are tasked to ensure that each class is properly filled with the appropriate citizens in compliance to existing legislation.  If there are centuries assigned to classes that do not have the citizens to fill those centuries then the Censores cannot fill those centuries.

a.       The Number of Census points will determine what class citizens are allocated in the Comitia Centuriata. 

                                                               i.      If Citizens hold 220 or more Census Points and have accepted enrollment into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to that Class and appropriate Century.

                                                             ii.      If Citizens hold between 140-219 Census points OR have not accepted membership into the Ordo Equester they will be allocated to the First Class of Centuries.

                                                            iii.      If Citizens census points fall within the 100 – 139 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Second class.

                                                           iv.      If Citizens census points fall within the 50-99 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Third class.

                                                             v.      If Citizens census points fall within the 35-49 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fourth class.

                                                           vi.      If Citizens census points fall within 17-34 Census points they will be allocated to the Centuries within the Fifth class.

                                                          vii.      If Citizens census points do not meet the minimum threshold of 16 Census points they will be allocated to the Capite Censi Century.

VIII.                        The relative sizes of each class shall be set as follows:

a.       Class I: 49% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century in this class shall be composed of all those members of the Ordo Equester who have accepted membership into the Ordo Equester.  This will be referred to as Century 1.

b.      Class II: 10% of the total number of Centuries

c.       Class III: 10% of the total number of Centuries

d.      Class IV: 10% of the total number of Centuries

e.      Class V:    15% of the total number of Centuries

                                                               i.      One single century within class V is reserved for the Capite Censi Only.

f.        Within each class, the number of citizens is to be spread as equitable as possible.  With the exception of those individual centuries that have extra requirements (Section VIII,a,i and Section VIII,e,i).  The Censors are instructed to ensure each class is properly and equitable represented.

IX.                       Upon enactment of this lex, the only lawful method of subsequently superseding, amending or repealing this lex must be by way of a vote in the Comitia Centuriata that must achieve an extraordinary majority  of 2/3s or greater (67%  or greater) of the total Centuries.

 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91957 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Ave Sulla:

In the final sentence where you require a two-thirds super majority is that of all centuries or all centuries within which at least one citizen cast a ballot? In other words, do empty centuries and centuries where there was no voter participation count when calculating the super majority?

Vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 
Vivat Nova Roma!
 
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67. 
 
 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91958 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: [BackAlley] RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ord
Ave,

With the minimization of the Centuries to 31, there will be no blank Centuries.  So a 2/3 approval of all Centuries will be needed for repeal.  Unless of course if we have less that 30 tax-payers, which has never been the case in all of Nova Roma's history.

The reason for the super-majority is that this law is EXTENSIVE and if some future consul decides to try to tamper with it and repeal part of it the implications on the Comitia Centuriata could be very profound.  Repealing this law with something less vague could render the Comitia Centuriata inoperable and would require a dictator.

Respectfully,

Sulla




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91959 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Ave!

So, if there are 31 centuries, the law can be altered only if 21 or more centuries vote in favor, regardless of voter turn out.

Respectfully,

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91960 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Ave,

Yes, exactly.  

Respectfully,

Sulla





Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91961 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Tax Payers
Avete Omnes,

I have just completed the last update to the tax rolls.

In 2012 Nova Roma had a final tax payer count of 84 citizens.
In 2013 Nova Roma has a final count of tax payers at 106 Citizens.

That is an increase of over 20%.  This is taking into account the tax increase that Nova Roma had to implement.  Next year will be important to see how the reduction in the tax affects the total amount of tax payers, that will be very interesting to see.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
CFO
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91962 From: Belle Morte Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Tax Payers
Salvete,

This is good news indeed!  

Valete bene,
Aeternia 

Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91963 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: The Senate of Nova Roma is now in session
CALL TO CONVENE A FORMAL MEETING OF THE SENATE - Nov 25th to Dec 13th


Presiding Magistrate:
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, Consul

Quorum:
Decius Iunius Palladius is on Leave - his Proxy is assigned to Lucius
Cornelius Sulla Felix


SCHEDULE:

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 25-Nov-2013 : Call to order. Debate period
commences.

09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 3-Dec-2013 : Debate period ends.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 4-Dec-2013 : Call to vote. Voting period
commences.

09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 12-Dec-2013 : Voting period ends.

11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME 13-Dec-2013 : Call to close issued before this
time.


AGENDA:
I - Website Migration Update
II - Renaming the Provinces established from the previous Senate
session
III - Provincial reform on American Medioccidentalis Superior
IV - CFO Matter
V - Request for use of Nova Roman Trademark
VI - Book Compilation issue (This could be multiple issues depending
on how the discussion goes)
VII - Appointment of Governor
VIII - Future Fund raising Authorization
IX - Welcome to the New/Returning Senators - Make sure all of them
are on the list.
X - Census Update
XI - Any item that might need to be addressed



Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis

Vivat Nova Roma!

Very little is needed to make a happy life.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Meditations, Book VII, 67.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91964 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Salve et salvete,

My comments bellow.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91965 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Salve Sulla,

Please remove point VIII because:
1- We have a special section of legislation that is protect from easy changes, the constitution. If you think this should be protect than introduce it to the constitution.
2- This law deals of the right of citizenship and the denial of the same. This law needs to be easily correct if the practice shows the necessity and not to be impossible to change by a small minority.
3- As you perfectly know I only believe in special majorities to repeal or amend if the same level of consensus is demanded to approve. Simply putting the same level of agreement to make than it is asked to amend or repeal.
4- But above all that point is illegal under our laws:
a) The Comitia Centuriata is the only body that can define is internal procedures.
b) The Comitia Centuriata has no super majority definition in its own procedures.
c) The Comitia Populi has no power to decide what majority is valid to approve any legislation in the Comitia Centuriata, which is a simple majority of the centurias voting.

Vale,
Crassus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91966 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Salve Sulla,

I ask you to remove the last point by the same reasons I give on points 1,3 and 4 concerning the judicial system.

Vale optime,
Crassus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91967 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Questions for quaestores candidates.
SALVE ET SALVETE!

Thank you Laterensis, quaestor candidate, for your prompt answers.
Q1 - correct.
Q2 - many resources nominate 8 quaestores after the First Punic War instead of 10.
Q3 - None. Quaestores has not imperium and lictors.

Your reaction answering, means a lot for me because prove you care. That is important, therefore you have my support for your candidacy. I wish you success.

VALE ET VALETE,
Sabinus




"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91968 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Ave Amice,

I have only put the Extraordinary majorities on 2 laws my entire term.  The two most important laws.  This law ensures due process and adequate multiple means of appeal for citizens.

It is not illegal under our laws.  It does not define any internal procedures amice.  It just spells out the requirement to change or repeal this lex.  Thus it does not even need to be defined in the lex spelling out step by step procedures to summon, conduct and count the votes of the Comitia.

I understood that by doing this it would most likely affect your support amice, just as the ones promulgated in the Senate did (and they did not have the issues you brought up), but given the seriousness of the lex it is absolutely needed.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91969 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
Ave Amice,

I am sorry but on this lex repealling it would have dire implications for the ability of having the Comitia Centuriata work at all, as I pointed out.  

What I have written is a clear and transparant law that re-introduces the Ordo Equesto into Nova Roman society and builds transparent procedures to compel the Censors to assign citizens to proper classes, centuries.  Any future magistrate trying to change or remove this lex would have ramifications that would affect not just the law itself but ripple throughout Nova Roman Society. 

I have taken this situation as serious and deemed it worth of adding the Super Majority Requirement.  The second time in my entire Consulship in regards to a Lex.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91970 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave Amice,

I think I have a fix on Item II that has been the sticking point.  It came to me, ironically enough while driving.

How does this sound:

II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the  procedures within and for Nova Roma, by any legal instrument lower than a promulgated lex, shall be illegal.

There - I need to know if this works so I can update and repost the law.

As for the provactio request, I will add a period of 48 hours.  After that the decision reached by the Praetor, the Senate and not vetoed by a Tribune will then be imposed.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91971 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Questions for quaestores candidates.

Laterensis Sabino omnibusque sal.

Your support is very much appreciated, thank you. As to my second and third answers, that's what I get for being lazy and looking it up on Wikipedia. It states that the original number was four and raised to ten after 267 BCE. It also stated that a Quaestor got one fasces and one lictor in this paragraph.

"The office of quaestor was adopted as the first official post of the cursus honorum, and was usually a former broad-stripe tribune. By achieving election as quaestor, a Roman man would earn the right to sit in the Senate and begin to progress along the standard sequence of offices that made up a career in public service. Quaestors were entitled to one fasces and one lictor."

You think I'd know better than to rely on Wikipedia by now, but I keep going back for more. Oh well, this is how I learn. I'll remember to check more sources next time.

Optime Valete!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android



From: iulius sabinus <iulius_sabinus@... To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Questions for quaestores candidates.
Sent: Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:30:10 PM

 

SALVE ET SALVETE!

Thank you Laterensis, quaestor candidate, for your prompt answers.
Q1 - correct.
Q2 - many resources nominate 8 quaestores after the First Punic War instead of 10.
Q3 - None. Quaestores has not imperium and lictors.

Your reaction answering, means a lot for me because prove you care. That is important, therefore you have my support for your candidacy. I wish you success.

VALE ET VALETE,
Sabinus

"Every individual is the architect of his own fortune" - Appius Claudius

--------------------------------------------

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91972 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Caninus sal.

Excellent! The new wording regarding changes to the law is much better and should be clear enough. Hopefully, our praetor agrees. Defining the 48 hour period for provocatio is good, too. 

I am still a bit wary of the super majority clause but I understand why it might be needed. Like Crassus, I do worry that this is a double edged sword and the protection it seems to offer now may become a problem in the future if circumstances lead Nova Roma to a point where an additional clause is required, specific penalty needs adjustment or some part of the law needs to be changed. But I wonder if it would be technically possible to pass a separate lex or leges to add to or in some other way modify the code of conduct without actually changing this lex? It seems from the wording of this lex that a separate lex that promulgates a change in the system would not be subject to a super majority and would be legal if approved by the vote of a comitia. 

Even with the requirement for a super majority, this code of conduct law is much more appropriate than the current system.  I strongly urge everyone to support this new law by casting a vote in favor of its adoption.

Bene valete!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Tribunus Plebis
America Boreoccidentalis
 

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91973 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave Amice,

Your rationale matches with mine in regards to the Super Majority.

These are rare beasts that should be used only with caution.  The Leges Salicia, which are being replaced have been on NRs books for nearly 10 years and have been one of the most controversial leges.  Both times they have been exercised have caused many a conflict given how they were exercised.  The proposed lex does not have the defects of the Leges Salicia.  The proposed Lex Cornelia was drafted by someone with considerable legal experience who took pains to forsee every possible twist and turn that Nova Roma might offer, from a magistrate who tries to go beyond the letter and spirit of the law, to citizens who choose not to respond.  In the end, what we (my staff) turned out has been one of the most cohesive pieces of legislation that I hope stands up to scrutiny as an adornment to my namesake who's most profound legacy when he was governing ancient Rome was the establishment of the legal reorganization that lasted well into the principate.

Respectfully,

Sulla






Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91974 From: qfabiusmaximus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
 
 
In a message dated 11/26/2013 3:11:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, c.aemilius.crassus@... writes:
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91975 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Cn. Lentulus quaestor L. Sullae consuli et C. Aemilio praetori omnibusque s. d.

I join to praetor Aemlius' request. It is not acceptable to impose such (almost) unchangeable extra majority laws on Nova Roma. Penal codes especially should be easily modifiable, because these laws are part of the very practical aspect of a community's life, and making them inflexible will just make our life extra hard in a later point. Not even the modification of the Constitution is required to have an extra majority (2/3rd majority) in the comitia. Or is this law becoming our new foundational document?

There are other problems with this rogatio (law proposal), serious and worrying problems. It does not bring us closer to a working Roman model, but farther from it, giving powers to the princeps senatus, an un-elected office, that he has never had, and taking away such powers from the praetores, our elected representatives, who have always had and must always have. It is worrying to see that under tha term "Princeps" a power accumulation has been going in the last years and now it is about to hugely increase again. Actually, such an accumulation of power has a historical precedent, called Roman emperor. But I trust our leaders don't want to go into this direction, do they? Because they don't, such powers should not be added to the princeps senatus.

I also miss the specific Latin names of crimes and the correct historical procedure that was present in the lex Salicia. It's true that the current law, the lex Salicia, is not perfect, parts of the two leges Saliciae should have been modified, parts of them repealed, some new parts added, but this is now a complete departure both from Roman tradition and Nova Roman tradition, while the content of the law proposal seems mostly focused on paranoid cold warring, harassing citizens and intimidating them so that they may not openly criticize the Nova Roman government in comparison to other organizations, namely the RPR. Punishments are ridiculously confident, pompous and arrogant: really, 99 years of punishment by Nova Roma? Who do we think we are? How does it look like? It's pure arrogance at this level where we are and what we are, which is revolting. Bad opinion about Nova Roma is so widespread and some of us try so hard to give a positive impression, but things like this will
always abhor more normal people from being involved to Nova Roma, because they want to join something that was supposed to be fun, but from closer it seems like a Correctional Institution, with "free" speech monitored and shut down when in conflict with magistrates' interests, and with the regular Two Minutes Hate against Goldstein, aka the RPR. Do we *really* need to enshrine our shaking fear from the "formidable" RPR in the form of a law? Who has any reason to fear here continuously? What life is this? If we want to be better than them, and we *are* better than them, from what we would have to fear? If we aren't, why we want to lie and enforce lies on the citizenry? Punishments for resignation from office? Whom does it stop? If somebody wants to leave Nova Roma and his office, what kind of fictive imprisonments of any length could them hold back? Maybe a 9999 years? How could that help Nova Roma? And, at the top of these things, section VIII will make hard like Hell to correct this law in the future by making it almost irrevocable. Everything is put together so that a power hungry princeps senatus in the future (not you) can dominate Nova Roma as supreme judge blessed by laws unchangeable. And then we can take a good look at ourselves...

Consul, I appreciate your efforts, citizens; indeed, we need a penal code, in some form, but this is not the correct form.
 
Valete!



Da: Aemilius Crassus <c.aemilius.crassus@...
 
Salve Sulla,

Please remove point VIII because:
1- We have a special section of legislation that is protect from easy changes, the constitution. If you think this should be protect than introduce it to the constitution.
2- This law deals of the right of citizenship and the denial of the same. This law needs to be easily correct if the practice shows the necessity and not to be impossible to change by a small minority.
3- As you perfectly know I only believe in special majorities to repeal or amend if the same level of consensus is demanded to approve. Simply putting the same level of agreement to make than it is asked to amend or repeal.
4- But above all that point is illegal under our laws:
a) The Comitia Centuriata is the only body that can define is internal procedures.
b) The Comitia Centuriata has no super majority definition in its own procedures.
c) The Comitia Populi has no power to decide what majority is valid to approve any legislation in the Comitia Centuriata, which is a simple majority of the centurias voting.

Vale,
Crassus




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91976 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave Amice,

Yes, the Cincinnatus trial is one of the worst travesties Nova Roma ever went through.  But, that is not the only trial.  As much as I was glad that Hortenisa was found Guilty in her trial we all recognize that the interference the Consul at the time had in the trial would question the process of that trial as well.  We have had those two expereinces and each one was imperfect.

Now, the new proposed lex takes into account the reality of the situation.  We still have the bi-cameral system in place.  If Caninus next year is presented with a petition from a citizen about the actions of another citizen his colleague, Placidus, could legally intercessio the action and it would stop right there.  However, the lex is assuming that we might have 2 Praetors who agree with the petition or just one single Praetor.  In those cases there are no compromises the praetor would be required to make under the Leges Salicia.

Under the Lex Cornelia, there would have to be because the Praetor (jointly or on his or her own) would have to ensure that the Princep Senatus and the Senate see the same issues, causes of action and extremeness that the Preator does.  What this law does is add another layer of Judicial Review, akin to a Supreme Court where no single person can pass judgement on any citizen to the point of banishing the citizen.  

The Senate, the ultimate arbitrator and supreme policy making body of Nova Roma will determine, review and issue its decision. This might make the process a bit longer, but it will ensure that Nova Roma will have a fairer and more rational means of dealing with conflict resolution and ensuring that the code of conduct is not abused in its application.

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91977 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Ave Lentulus amice,

I will just have to state this right now and take the flack for doing so.  The larger concern for me is that the law is to be as well written and understood as possible.  Only the tertiary consideration would be the Latin names for the titles of possible offenses.   If you can come up with those Latin names for the offenses I will be happy to include them but right now having them in understandable English is sufficient.

As for the supermajority Nova Roma has been using them for a while, primarily in the Senate.  However, as I pointed out given the extreme seriousness of the laws and in particular the ramifications of the Ordo Equaestro it is needed.  

Amice, after your vehment defense of Piscinus in the CP list is going to aid your endeavor here.  To be frank those in the Sertorian Organization are not welcome in Nova Roma.  There are plenty of legislation that would prevent them from coming back to Nova Roma, as their former Consul for this year (ex citizen Modianus) found out when he tried to reapply for membership in Nova Roma and was rejected.

The point of order and factually proven is that those individuals tried to defraud Nova Roma and that is something there will be repercussions, with regard to the IT infrastructure and their attempt to remove 10 grand from Nova Roma's treasury.  All year long I have taken steps not appear factional or devisive.  However, the truth is the truth and that cannot be changed, no matter how one tries to revise history.   Members of the Sertorian Organization will not be coming back to Nova Roma anytime soon.  Whenever any of them have been found to have sneaked their way in, they have been discovered, taxes refunded (if paid) and removed from the rolls.  I know this has happened at least once.  There comes a point in time when you have to accept the reality of the situation, even if you do not like it Lentulus.  It is now that time.  

Speaking for myself, Lentulus, I have taken an effort to reach an accord with you.  Neither of us will ever be friends, which is fine.  But, I had hoped that by the end of this year you would see I am not always the divisive bastard I have been in the past.  I have set aside my differences with you, employed your skills in my staff so that together you and I can help further Nova Roma, end the period of rebuilding Nova Roma and while not forgetting the past conficts at least reach a point where from this point forward we can deal with each other with at least respect.  If that is successful then mazel tov.  If not, at least I know I tried.  The year we had was at least productive and Nova Roma benefitted from us working together.  But, as for the Sertorian Organization, it is done.  There is enough dirt on what they did that the only way they will ever come back is if many of us just walk away from Nova Roma leaving people in Nova Roma who will ignore the past, ignore the laws and illegally bring them back.  That wont happen.  I spent an entire year ensuring that Nova Roma learned the necessary lessons that the last civil war gave us.  

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91978 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Final draft with the changes added - Lex Cornelia Poenalis

Introduction:  Nova Roma must have a method to administer and adjudicate conflicts between citizens.  This has been an area of ongoing concern since Nova Roma was created.  The most recent attempt, the Leges Salicia, have not been successful.  There are multiple problems with the Leges Salicia.  The recent unpleasantness with the trials that Nova Roma have gone through have proven beyond a doubt that Nova Roma needed to rethink how we balance the need for conflict resolution while taking steps to ensure the protection of the Organization.  This law achieves that balance.



I.          The lex Salicia iudiciaria and the lex Salicia poenalis are repealed.

II.        Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system or administratively alter the procedures within and for Nova Roma, by any legal instrument lower than a promulgated lex, shall be illegal.

III.      The judicial system of Nova Roma shall be based solely on the Code of Conduct as defined in this lex.

IV.      Only the praetors, consuls, censors and Senate shall enforce and administer the Code of Conduct.

V.        The Code of Conduct shall be applicable and have legal force within:

a.       All official fora under the control of the praetors

b.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Senate

c.       Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the provincial governors.

d.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of official Nova Roman sodalities, as defined by the Senate.

e.      Those communication venues under the care, custody and control of the Collegium Pontificum or the Collegium Augurum as defined by the collegium concerned and such definition being ratified by the Senate.

f.        Official Nova Roman in-person meetings, authorised and/or sponsored by a magistrate of Nova Roma, the Senate, the Collegium Pontificum, the Collegium Augurum or a provincial magistrate.

VI.                The Code of Conduct shall be as follows:

a.       A person who advocates or otherwise promotes or publicises a prohibited course of action in any area as defined at section V above, or commits an act in support of such a course of action, whether such act is successful in its execution or not, shall be deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

b.      The following are courses of action that are, for the purposes of section II.B.4 of the Nova Roman Constitution,  deemed to represent and imminent and clear danger to the Republic and are thus prohibited for the purposes of section VI.a above together with the relevant penalty schedule (as defined below) that shall apply :

                                                               i.      The overthrow and/or replacement of a magistrate(s), official (elected or appointed) and/or Senate of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule I)

                                                             ii.      Threats of violence, intimidation or harm to person(s) or threats to damage property (schedule I)

                                                            iii.      The theft of, or destruction or damage to corporate assets (schedule I)

                                                           iv.      The provision of data or information from any Nova Roman record or database to an unauthorised person or organization. Exceptions are for the purpose of complying with a legal demand by macronational authorities, and in order to protect and/or preserve the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc.  (schedule I)

                                                             v.      The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                           vi.      The removal of the religio publica as the official religion of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                          vii.      The surrender or sabotage of the corporate status of Nova Roma Inc. by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II)

                                                        viii.      Public displays of hatred towards any person, or group of persons, based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation (schedule III)

                                                           ix.      Extolling the benefits and/or values of an organization deemed by the Senate to be a competing organization (schedule III)

                                                             x.      Resigning from any magistracy or office at a time critical to the security and/or well-being of Nova Roma, where such resignation would likely pose an imminent and clear danger to the continued survival, or orderly functioning of, Nova Roma, and where no other magistrate or official of equal or greater authority currently holds office, or where such other magistrate or official is unavailable (schedule IV)

                                                           xi.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)

                                                          xii.      Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and communication that violates the Terms of Service (ToS) of any communication venue owned by a third party service or company, and which Nova Roma utilizes, thereby imperilling, impeding or preventing Nova Roma’s right to use that communication venue. (schedule IV)

c.       Any citizen of Nova Roma may present a praetor with a complaint alleging a breach of the Code of Conduct. Upon receipt of such information the praetor must within 7 calendar days of such receipt review the evidence presented as well as any other evidence which the praetor subsequently discovers upon investigation of the allegation. If the praetor upon review of such evidence concludes there is no breach of the Code of Conduct no further action shall be taken. If the praetor considers that there is reasonable suspicion that a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred, then:

                                                               i.      The praetor must then contact the person at section VI.a and request an explanation for the alleged breach of the Code of Conduct and require an answer within 14 calendar days.

                                                             ii.      Should no answer be received by the praetor within 14 calendar days then the person at section VI.a shall be automatically deemed to have breached the Code of Conduct.

                                                            iii.      Should an answer be received within 14 calendar days the praetor shall review it and determine if:

1.       A response can be made from the individual accused and/or by a representative on behalf of the accused.

2.       There is no clear and convincing evidence of the accused having violated the Code of Conduct.  If that is the case, no further action shall be taken.

3.       There is evidence a breach has occurred but mitigating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such then the praetor has the discretionary power to issue a warning and not impose a penalty, or should the praetor not wish to exercise that discretion a level (a) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed. Should a person who has been warned previously commit further similar or greater, as defined by the praetor, breaches of the Code of Conduct then this discretionary power shall not be exercised and a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule shall be imposed.

4.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and no aggravating circumstances. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (b) penalty under the relevant schedule.

5.       There is evidence a breach has occurred and there are no mitigating circumstances and aggravating circumstances exist. If there is evidence of such, then the praetor shall impose a level (c) penalty under the relevant schedule.

6.      If If there is a guilty decision on any item covered under section v.b.i – v.b.xiii, then the praetor shall transfer authority over the matter to the princeps senatus, who shall issue a call to convene the Senate into a formal meeting of the Senate in session, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV. The princeps senatus shall present the Senate with such evidence and the matter shall be debated by the Senate. The princeps senatus shall present a draft senatus consultum to the Senate that asks it to decide whether the alleged breach has occurred and to approve the sentencing of the infraction according to the schedule listed in this lex.

a.       The princeps senatus shall have the administrative discretion to judicially review the administrative process conducted by the Praetor, can conduct necessary discovery, and recommend alternative sentences.  The only limitation is that the princeps senatus cannot impose any sentence in excess of the schedule listed in this lex.

7.       In assessment of evidence, or mitigating circumstances or aggravating circumstances, the praetor shall determine those by use of his/her own judgement.

8.       If any punishment is so warranted by any empowered magistrate or empowered individual covered in section iii before said punishment may be applied it must be reviewed by the Senate of Nova Roma.  If the Senate of Nova Roma does not approve by consent of the voting members of the senate (simple majority of all senators present) then the punishment is voided and not applied.  Only after the consent of the Senate may any punishment be applied.

                                                           iv.        The following define Schedule I to Schedule IV penalties:

1.       Schedule I (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 10 years to 19 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 5 years from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 20 years to 29 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 7 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 30 years to 99 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: perpetual loss of the right to stand for any public office.

2.       Schedule II (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 4 years to 5 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 1 year from the date of return.

b.      No mitigation and no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 6 years to 7 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 2 years from the date of return.

c.       No mitigation and aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 8 years to 9 years. Upon any return of Nova Roman citizenship: loss of the right to stand for any public office for a further 4 years from the date of return.

3.       Schedule III (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Banishment from Nova Roma for 1 year.

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 2 years.

c.       Aggravating circumstances: Banishment from Nova Roma for 3 years.

4.       Schedule IV (levels a, b and c)

a.       Mitigation: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 6 months to 1 year

b.      No mitigation, no aggravating circumstances: Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to, any office or position in Nova Roma, for 1 year to 5 years

c.       Aggravating circumstances:  : Loss of membership from all areas at section V that the person at VI.a might legitimately be admitted to at the time of the imposition of the penalty and loss of voting rights and right to stand for any public office for, or be appointed to,  any office or position in Nova Roma for 5 year to 10 years

                                                             v.      Where a range of years in the form of a penalty exists, the praetor shall, at his or her own discretion, choose the exact amount of years from within that range, excluding section VI.c.III.5 where the vote of the Senate imposes the penalty and level.

                                                           vi.      The right of appeal upon imposition of a penalty under this lex shall be defined as the exercise of the right of provocatio, as per section II.B.5 of the Nova Roman Constitution.  If the declared guilty party wins their provactio appeal, then all previous decisions, related to the appeal, are overturned and all punitive measures cease immediately.

                                                          vii.      The mechanism for imposing the penalty shall be by means of a praetorial edict issued by the presiding praetor. The censors must upon publication of the praetorial edict record the details of the penalty in the Album civium entry for the person at VI.a.

d.      The praetor shall use his/her own judgement in determining the facts of a matter, and/or evaluating evidence in respect of that matter, concerning an alleged breach of the Code of Conduct.  This also applies to the Senate with regard to judicial review of any guilty verdict.

e.      In cases where there is a difference between the decision of the Praetor and a decision reached by the Senate of Nova Roma the decision by the Senate of Nova Roma is the decision of final resort.

f.        There shall be a limitation on the period of time for each breach during which the actions described in this lex can be utilized and after that time no action shall be taken, dated from the time and date offense or action. The limitations according to the associated schedule number for the breach concerned are:

                                                               i.      Schedule I: 10 years       

                                                             ii.      Schedule II  5 years

                                                            iii.      Schedule III: 3 years

                                                           iv.      Schedule IV: 1 year

 

VII.              Rights of all citizens under this lex. 

a.       Citizens have the right to know who their accuser is.

b.      Citizens have a right to a defense and may seek representation.  Citizens also have a right to know the accusations and evidence presented against them.

c.       Any punishment determined by the praetor is suspended and shall not take effect until the Senate ratifies that punishment by vote and 48 hours have passed in order to exercise the right of provactio.

VIII         Upon enactment of this lex, the only lawful method of subsequently superseding, amending or repealing this lex must be by way of a vote in the Comitia Centuriata that must achieve an extraordinary majority  of 2/3s or greater (67% or greater) of the total Centuries.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91979 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-26
Subject: Busy
Avete Omnes,

I am going to be swamped for the next couple of hours.  I have emails I must attend to after I deal with the Senate - and my teaching.

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91980 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Caesar Crasso sal.


CAC2: But that is not what the proposal text says. " Any attempt to introduce or change the current judicial system...other than those processes outlined in this lex, shall be illegal" can easily argued for also forbidding legislation altering this system.

CnIC: Nonsense Crasse. The Constitution does not allow for any lex to be cast for ever in stone, so of course the lex can be changed, but only by at least a lex. The order of legal precedence applies, the later lex shall prevail and a superior legal instrument in terms of authority can also prevail. What is perfectly permissible is for a lex, or a senatus consultum, to set conditions within it under which it can be repealed. 

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CAC: I have a great difficulty to accept point ix above because if a citizen believes a competing organization has some good aspects, actions or guiding principles then the citizen should have the right to say it and advocating we adopt the same aspects, actions and so on. More I prefer that the citizen makes it in a public forum for citizens where it can be properly debate than privately without debate possibility.

CnIC: Rubbish, in fact absolute rubbish. We have NO duty to allow citizens whose only agenda is to de-stabilize and demean Nova Roma in favour of another competing organization a soap box. They can say Nova Roma has issues, they can execrate it all they wish, but they should NOT be allowed to extol the virtues of an organization that seeks to cherry pick our citizens and create internal discord. Democratic freedom of expression only goes so far and where it ends is when we see our internal processes hijacked like this. You maybe about to become consul, but you need to give your head a shake and smarten up Crasse. Soon it will be your responsibility to care for the res publica for 12 months, and advocating an open platform for a bucket of seditious nonsense isn't an auspicious start. I will defend the right of every citizen to bad mouth Nova Roma, the Senate, myself, Sulla, anyone, but not to appear in our forum and extol the virtues of another organization. If they feel that way they can exit our gates. 

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CAC2: I too went to the dictionary definition but the matter is it is a matter of level and in this way subject to subjective interpertations.

CnIC: The is a senatus consultum, passed in my consulship, that takes care of this - the one on deriving meaning. This is a non-issue as the SC lays down the process to be followed.

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CAC2: Considering that people can decide by themselves if the argument or communication behavior as substance behind it or not those people can be noise but can never stop the normal election proceedures.

CnIC: Incorrect. I can think of numerous ways this could happen. Fake signs of impeding doom is indeed one of them. 

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CAC2: Because the provocatio is not an automatic process I asked for a period for the citizen to ask for it. In this period the sentence is on hold. If the period to appeal ends without the request of provocatio the sentence is applied. If the citizen request the provocatio than the sentence is suspended till the provocatio is decided by the comitia. I completely fail to see how the Tribuni can have anything to do with it.

CnIC: I don't know how many times I have to explain this to you Crasse regarding the tribunes. You were concerned that the magistrate to call the comitia to order might be biased or involved somehow in that matter. That holds true of everything in a  judicial process in NR, hence the involvement of Senate and people. If a consul fails to call the comitia then the tribunes can veto the sentence on the basis the law was not followed by affording the provocatio appeal. Simple. The law here states they have the right - it affirms the constitution - so if they don't get that right the tribunes can (if they wish) veto the sentence as the sentence requires that  provocatio be made available if requested. If it isn't made available that is the grounds for the tribunes to veto on the grounds that this lex would have been breached (and the constitution).

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Optime vale



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91981 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Caesar Crasso sal.

Again nonsense Crasse. I have have already explained that including in a lex a requirement for any successor lex to achieve a certain majority is perfectly legal. What would not be legal is to try to enshrine a proposed law as absolute forever. This proposed lex does NOT do that, just set the conditions it can be changed or repealed under. 

As to the issue of the supremacy of the CC - the consul I think will deal with that.  I restrict myself simply to a discussion of the clause setting the required majority for change.

Optime vale


From: Aemilius Crassus <c.aemilius.crassus@...  
Salve Sulla,

Please remove point VIII because:
1- We have a special section of legislation that is protect from easy changes, the constitution. If you think this should be protect than introduce it to the constitution.
2- This law deals of the right of citizenship and the denial of the same. This law needs to be easily correct if the practice shows the necessity and not to be impossible to change by a small minority.
3- As you perfectly know I only believe in special majorities to repeal or amend if the same level of consensus is demanded to approve. Simply putting the same level of agreement to make than it is asked to amend or repeal.
4- But above all that point is illegal under our laws:
a) The Comitia Centuriata is the only body that can define is internal procedures.
b) The Comitia Centuriata has no super majority definition in its own procedures.
c) The Comitia Populi has no power to decide what majority is valid to approve any legislation in the Comitia Centuriata, which is a simple majority of the centurias voting.

Vale,
Crassus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91982 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Caesar Fabio sal

Wake up and read this lex. What are you talking about? There will be another praetor (assuming people stand and if they don't oh well their choice) who can veto. One praetor hears one issue The other can interject if he/she wants, as can the consul(s) and veto it dead. No one has backed into anything, except you - and that is the price you pay for not reading this properly.

Optime vale 




From: "QFabiusMaxmi@..." <QFabiusMaxmi@...  
 
 
In a message dated 11/26/2013 3:11:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, c.aemilius.crassus@... writes:


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91983 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments
Caesar Lentulo sal. 

Having a legal system that is open to change at the whim of a future comitia where voting is low is not acceptable. We still have obligations to meet after the IRS audit, and internal control systems were one issue they addressed.  

" Or is this law becoming our new foundational document?" Don't be silly. Of course it isn't. Don't start getting emotional. 

As for your concern about the princeps senatus, that is a matter for the Senate, and already decided. Read the senate rules. 

I want to be clear with you and others. Nova Roma has tried to follow the Roman model and it ended up with the Cincinnatus "trial" and numerous other aborted "trials". At our stage of development we cannot afford to institute processes we are far too small to effectively discharge. It would be a Roman process in name only. We need a simple, effective Code of Conduct with oversight provided by the Senate/Board of Directors to avoid long drawn out show trials, the process being hijacked in pursuit of that. We are too small for a system of "justice". Nova Roma as an organisation has to protect itself, but it cannot enter the business of trying to dispense justice...not yet. No one can be impartial serving as an iudex and we are fooling no one by the current model. It as a model has caused numerous people to walk out and leave us in disgust. No, it must go and we need to rid ourselves of a divisive system. I am as conservative as any, but I am also practical. We are Nova Romans - and we can adapt systems to suit OUR needs. To be wedded to a system - or a variant thereof - that can never work (and that has been proved) is idiotically suicidal. 

Optime vale


From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus <cn_corn_lent@... font-weight:bold;">Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Lex Cornelia Poenalis - Final Draft - Open for comments

 
Cn. Lentulus quaestor L. Sullae consuli et C. Aemilio praetori omnibusque s. d.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91984 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
A. Paterculus L. Cornelio Sullae omnibusque s.p.d.
I respectfully disagree with this law for three reasons, the two
most important of which have already been touched upon by Cn.
Lentulus.
a. That it criminalizes multiple forms of speech, so that merely
discussing an action is equivalent to actually performing it. This is
especially visible in article VI.a., but even articles VI.b.ii. and
VI.b.viii. could be taken to such an extreme as to harm public
discourse if the praetor(es) and Senate wished to enforce it that way.
I believe that accusations of sexism, for example, have been used in
the past for what some may have seen as political reasons. If anyone
were to use such tactics in the future, this law would multiply their
effectiveness.
Also, even our relatively small body of laws is sufficiently
complex that what is "illegal and/or unconstitutional" may not be
obvious in every case. If discussion of approaches that turn out to be
illegal are criminalized, it might discourage also investigation into
those which are actually legitimate.
b. It is ahistorical for non-senators to be tried by the Senate. Not
only should we be wary of such an innovation because it takes us
further from our model, but because there were reasons that the Senate
seldom occupied a judicial role in ancient Rome. For one thing, given
the frequency of litigation, the Senate would have been overoccupied
with criminal proceedings and unable to pursue its real business.
Historical speculation has it that Senators were tried in the
Senate so that they would face the sympathetic judgement of their
peers rather than the potential hostility of another class. Shouldn't
we extend the same consideration to non-senators?
c. Ítem xi, which prohibits "Engaging in a pattern of behaviour and
communication during a comitia summons, with the intended result of
disrupting and/or terminating any vote within that comitia that is
illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule IV)" should be altered to
have a comma after the second "comitia". Currently it seems to
prohibit interfering with an ilegal vote, clearly not the intent.

Most of these objections apply to potential futures, either where
leaders less responsible have inherited the Senate or the citizen
population has grown beyond the Senate's ability to prosecute
offenders efficiently. However, history seems to suggest that poor
leadership is inevitable at some point in an organization that
survives long enough. The law needs to be strong enough to minimize
the damage they do when they appear. The latter scenario is also
inevitable, if we succeed in our goals for Nova Roma to flourish. The
larger the electorate, the harder it will be to reverse this law. We
ought to take steps to avoid potential problems now.
Cn. Caesar is right that we are currently too small to support a
full justice system on the Roman model. Therefore I would request an
expiration date on this legislation, or else a benchmark of number of
citizens which will trigger a transition to another system. This may
be best at the moment, but in the long term it seems like the dangers
outweigh the benefits.
Valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91985 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Ave!

Thank you very much for voicing your opinion in regards to the proposed lex.

Let me try to address your concerns.  You raised the spectre of free speech being curtailed by imposing limitations.  The problem is under the Leges Salicia the current law in force is even WORSE - read for yourself:  http://novaroma.org/nr/Lex_Salicia_Poenalis_(Nova_Roma).  This lex modifies and adds additional checks in the conflict resolution/code of conduct process so that one single person does not have the authority to stand in judgement over anyone.  This lex simplifies the possible infactions listed in the lex by adding a stronger standard for one to be considered to be in a state of breech.  Let me give you an example,  earlier this year when I was arguing with various members of the Collegium Pontiificum I stated a couple of times that the Sertorian Organization is out performing Nova Roma in the religious parts of our society.  Does this violate section VI.B.ix?  No, it does not.  Because I was not extolling the benefit of the Sertorian Organization, but pointing out an observation, not extolling or offering excessive praise.  The key statement in most of the sections of the code of conduct state clearly, by illegal means, again example:  v. (The dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal and/or unconstitutional (schedule II))   See, one could legally discuss or even advocate the LEGAL means to dissolve Nova Roma.  What would be illegal would be to attempt the dissolution of Nova Roma by any method that is illegal or unconstitutional, this goes on and on in the code of conduct.  Free speech is absolutely protected if citizens wish to discuss the merits and disadvantages of Nova Roma's incorporation status, its existence, and even discuss what would happen if type situations develop.

If a Praetor does try to expand the meaning of the letter of the law in a broader terms than written or intended there are numerous checks in this process:

1.  HIs or her colleague can issue an intercessio.
2.  The Tribunes of the Plebs may get involved to protect the citizen from direct negative action by the Praetor
3.  The Princeps Senatus may conduct his/her own investigation once the Praetor has issued a ruling.
4.  The Princeps Senatus and Senate may decline to approve the Praetor decision OR may alter the ruling decision in a lesser direction (make the punishment less sever) or may NOT present the item to the Senate alltogether (which would mean the complaint dies since no punishment may be enacted without the approval of the Senate)
5.  If the Praetor AND Senate sign off on the petition, the Citizen has the right to provactio and by doing so the People will sit in judgement.

As you can see there are plenty of adequate checks to ensure that any issue brought before the Praetor will be investigated and due process applied on each case by case basis.

You stated this: "If discussion of approaches that turn out to be
illegal are criminalized, it might discourage also investigation into
those which are actually legitimate."

My response to that is that has never happened in Nova Roma.  As a matter of fact the reverse has been the case.  Multiple petitions have been brought to the Praetors office in Nova Roma's past and two of those cases resulted in trials.  If there is a matter that needs investigation the Praetors office and the Princeps Senatus are both empowered to conduct those investigations for purposes of ensuring that conflict resolution and the code of conduct is properly applied.

As for Item B in your issue, you are absolutely correct.  However, there are two reasons that this is going to be the case:

1.  The Board of Directors (The Senate) is ultimately responsible body in Nova Roma.  If Nova Roma faces any macronational blowback that blowback falls on the Senate.  Thus it is IMPERATIVE that the Senate, as Supreme Policy making Body of Nova Roma have a say in any administrative adjudication process that seeks to resolve consequences and in particular affect the membership status of citizens and most likely other Board members.  Citizens, on the other hand, do not face the same consequences as members of the Board unless that citizen is the cause or is directly related to the issue at hand, legally.
2.  The ancients were a Practical People who would try to find logical avenues to fill the needs of their organization.  This is precisely the case here.  We, Nova Roma, must have a means to resolve conflict between members (and most of those conflicts tend to happen between members of the Board).  What we have devised is a fairer more impartial means of administering justice between our members.  

As for Item C.  Thank you for that suggestion I will make that correction.

In your final paragraph you asked for an Expiration date, and unfortunately I cannot impose such a restriction.  When Nova Roma was audited by the IRS earlier this year, one of the documents they requested was a Conflict Resolution policy (if existed at the time - which did - the Leges Salicia).  When I had my interview with the IRS agent we discussed this.  I was told that once organizations have a Conflict Resolution policy they cannot NOT have one.  In other words, having an expiration date could possibly mean that there might be a period of time where Nova Roma has no means of conflict resolution.  That would bring Nova Roma into non-compliance and could possibly endanger our 501c3 approval with the IRS.

Most Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Consul


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91986 From: Aemilius Crassus Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Discussion: Lex Cornelia de Poenalis
Salve Caesar,



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 91987 From: Arthur Waite Date: 2013-11-27
Subject: Re: Lex Cornelia de Classibus et Ordine Equestri - Final Draft - Ope
A. Paterculus L. Cornelio Sullae omnibusque sal,
   This law has great advantages in the facts that it offers the censores the flexibility they will need to balance fine-tune the entry requirements to the Ordo Equester and that encourages monetary contributions to Nova Roma.
   There is room for improvement on one point, however. As far as I can tell, the number of equestrian centuries would remain at 1 even as the total number excedes 100. Could we scale up the number of equestrian centuries along with that of the total centuries, so that eventually we will arrive at the same 18 centuries that existed originally?
    Valete.