Salve,

A Roman could be Black, Brown, Yellow or White. one could be of the Religio or of the many other faiths. but they where still Roman.

L. Curtius Paullus

Still retarded.

Both sides agreed lol. 

Ave Omnes,

I apologize for causing such stir.   But as an attorney and historian, I thought it a good idea to bring some facts into this discussion.  So here we go again

First, it is correct that the Vatican City State did not purchase its land.  When the Kingdom of Italy dispossessed the Holy See from the Papal States, the Holy See retreated to the area that now constitutes the Vatican City State.  Even the King of Italy did not dare to enter this sacred ground.   But the existence of the Vatican City States was created by the Lateran Treaty.  The Vatican City State has the status of a state under international law.  However, I believe it is incorrect to state that the Church properties outside of the Vatican City State have extraterritoriality status.  It is my understanding that these facilities are subject to Italian jurisdiction.   

Second, SMOM did not purchase its property on Malta, it was given that property by the government of Malta.  Frankly I am unsure whether it purchased its property in Rome or was given it by a Pope.  But in either event, its extraterritoriality status at both locations is granted by the Italian government and Maltese government respectively.   Thus, that status could be revoked.   In any event, SMOM is not a state under international law, nor does it claim such status.

I am not sure what the comment about the United Nations means.  While I am not particularly favorably disposed toward the United Nations, it is an established international organization with great weight and international influence.  So I do not know what is meant by "They don't care about the United Nations", nor is it clear who the "They" is.   Incidentally both SMOM and the Vatican City State have observers at the United Nations.  So I guess they care.

Now perhaps it is considered avant garde in some quarters to offer unsubstantiated statements and opinions about Nova Roma and the United States.  To begin with, Nova Roma has no "relationship" with the United States per se.   As an organization, it is a non-profit corporation chartered in the U.S. State of Maine.   As would be true in any (international) state, as a corporation it must comply with the laws of the jurisdiction in which chartered.   These are hardly onerous, and do not hinder the freedom which Nova Roma constantly displays.   Incidentally, if Nova Roma was chartered in another state, legally it would be considered an alien corporation in the United States.   In such case, it would have to register in a U.S. state to do business.   

It would appear that the comments that "some NRcitizens is too much yankee and prefer to be a slave ... of USA!"  are intended to be an insult.   Reminds me of the old "Yankee go home"  slogans of Latin American communists in years past.  In any event, let me respond in this manner.   The individuals who founded Nova Roma came forward with a concept to honor the historic Roman Republic.   Yes, they were Americans.  They had the fortitude and commitment to follow through on the idea and establish an international organization, which counts among its members (citizens) individuals from across the globe.   Where were the critics then?      

I am glad when an individual is not a slave.   But as a proud American and as a citizen of Nova Roma, neither am I.   I suppose I could be quite angry that it is suggested that I am.   But honestly I find these comments  amusing and realize that they display an appalling lack of understanding of the most simple realities.  

The question is, if you find the organization and operation of Nova Roma so objectionable, what are your concrete suggestions.   It is easy to be criticize, but much harder to create alternatives.

My personal question is, if you find Nova Roma so disagreeable, why are you a member?   Or are you?

Vale,

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus 

Salve Cicero,

My goodness, you are presumptuous as well.    You know nothing of me, my education, experience, or dreams, anything else.  Nor have I yet reached my end; I shall endeavor to delay that for a number of decades.  Yet somehow you speak of a "dishonorable end: Roman Empire died because of [my] dream world".  Now I have been around some numerous decades, but I can assure you I was not around during the centuries of the Roman Empire.   So I have no idea what you are talking about.  But I would venture to guess that you have little knowledge or understanding about the demise of the Roman Empire or its complex causes which took several centuries.   Dropping a few Latin words like "Populi" does not impress.

Frankly I do not know why I even respond to you other than you are amusing.

Vale,

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus      

Salvete,

Quid agitis?

My name Hieronymus Blanesi di Amstelodamum,

born and raised in Amstelodamum in Frisia, just above the border of the Roman province of Batavia.

I research history and have published some books dedicated to Mars and artes martialis,

with in particular the biography of 17th century Luctatore Nicola Pettori (Nicolaes Petter).

With the will of Mercurius hopefully I will do well with my books.

Valete.

Ave Amstelodamum,

I wish you success with your books.   Were any published in English?  Many of us would like to know.

Vale,

Petrus Augustinus

Ave

I believe I asked the same question.

Vale
Ulpius Atellus

Ave,

Yes I am working on the answer for both of you.

Respectfully,

Sulla