Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Jan 1-31, 2015
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94680 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94681 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94682 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94683 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94684 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office: Censor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94685 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: To our new Magistrates
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94686 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Nero
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94687 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94688 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Nero
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94689 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94690 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94691 From: Jiri Rys Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office - Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94692 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94693 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94694 From: sextus_lucilius_tutor Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office - Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94695 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Wiki page for 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94696 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94697 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Scriba appointment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94698 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94699 From: Tiberius Cassius Atellus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94700 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Wiki page for 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94701 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94702 From: robert574674 Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Witness of Imperium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94703 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Augustus Caesar
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94704 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94705 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94706 From: David Parker Date: 2015-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office - Tribune of the Plebs
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94707 From: reenbru Date: 2015-01-04
Subject: Praetorian Edict of moderation
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94708 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-04
Subject: Appointment of Censor Scribe
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94709 From: Sextus Lucilius Tutor Date: 2015-01-05
Subject: Edictum Praetorium II Sex. Lucili Tutoris de scriba creando
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94710 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94711 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94712 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94713 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94714 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94715 From: Titus Iulius Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94716 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94717 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94718 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94719 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2015-01-07
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94720 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-07
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94721 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-08
Subject: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94722 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-08
Subject: Re: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94723 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-09
Subject: Re: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94724 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-09
Subject: Re: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94725 From: Tiberius Cassius Atellus Date: 2015-01-09
Subject: Quaestorial Record of Magisterial Oaths
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94726 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-10
Subject: This day in Ancient Roman history
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94727 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2015-01-10
Subject: Latin phrase of the day., Sunday, 11 January 2015
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94728 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-10
Subject: Re: This day in Ancient Roman history
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94729 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-11
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94730 From: tiberiusiuliusnerva Date: 2015-01-12
Subject: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94731 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-12
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94732 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-13
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94733 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-01-13
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94734 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2015-01-13
Subject: Latin phrase of the day, Tuesday, 13 January 2015
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94735 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-13
Subject: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94736 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-14
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94737 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-15
Subject: Album Senatorium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94738 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-15
Subject: Unsolicited Favorable Omen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94739 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-15
Subject: Re: Unsolicited Favorable Omen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94740 From: Scipio Second Date: 2015-01-15
Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94742 From: scipiosecond Date: 2015-01-16
Subject: Publicus Rhetor, Vol. II, Issue 1
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94743 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-17
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94744 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-17
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94745 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2015-01-17
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94746 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-17
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94747 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-17
Subject: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 2015
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94748 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2015-01-17
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94749 From: decimuscurtius Date: 2015-01-18
Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94750 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-18
Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94751 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-18
Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94752 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-18
Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94753 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-18
Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94754 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-19
Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE MPC 68-01: De assignatione quaestorum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94755 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2015-01-19
Subject: The CP is called into session - January 2768 a.U.c
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94756 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-19
Subject: Ludi Compitalicii 2768 Chariot Race Report
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94757 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-20
Subject: Re: Ludi Compitalicii 2768 Chariot Race Report
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94758 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-20
Subject: Compitalia 2768 auc on the wiki
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94759 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2015-01-20
Subject: Re: Ludi Compitalicii 2768 Chariot Race Report
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94760 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-21
Subject: Experiences with the Gods
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94761 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-21
Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94762 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-22
Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94763 From: MajikPiG Date: 2015-01-22
Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94764 From: tiberiusiuliusnerva Date: 2015-01-22
Subject: Meeting in Prague
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94765 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-22
Subject: Re: Meeting in Prague
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94766 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-22
Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94767 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-22
Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94768 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: The CP is called into session - January 2768 a.U.c - extended.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94769 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94770 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94771 From: robert574674 Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94772 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94773 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94774 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94775 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94776 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94777 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94778 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94779 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94780 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94781 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94782 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94783 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94784 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-26
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94785 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94786 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94787 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94788 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94789 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94790 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94791 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94792 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94793 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94794 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94795 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94796 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-27
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94797 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-01-28
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94798 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-28
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94799 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-28
Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94800 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94801 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94802 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94803 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94804 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94805 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94806 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94807 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94808 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94809 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94810 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-01-29
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94811 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-01-30
Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94812 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-30
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94813 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-30
Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94814 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-31
Subject: IUSTITIA MAGIS REPUBLICA EXERCERE


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94680 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Tul.Scholasticae magistrae pretiosae T.Marcio Quadrae et communibus sodalibus S.P.D. Aul. Scribonius Nasica,

 Dear Quadra, I'm not Cornelius Lentulus (he's professor of Latin at the University of Budapest and his Hungarian "civil" name is Attila Gonda) but I'm here in New Roma as : Aulus Scribonius Nasica ( my Italian "civil" name is Filippo Zizzo).
The concise  form of  Italian clause, as motto, in correct Italian is : " Mangiamo per vivere, cucina, per vivere meglio" ("We eat to live, cook (well or your best), to live better." In Italian clause there is no  word "well"- or" your best" because the sense is accomplished and understandable without the adverb. In Latin, my translation is : " Edimus ut vivamus,coque, ut melius vivamus".  I'd say the same thing for Latin adverb "bene" or "optime", but here - ubi maior , minor cessat- only Scholastica or Lentulus can and may say  the "last word" about!
Thanks, as always,  mea Scholastica dilecta urbanaque, for your valuable comments and correction of my improprieties in  Latin language;  but above all, for your nice comments on some  decided and  apparently" politically incorrect statements of mine. Thanks for your subtle humor and your support when I invoke you. 
Optime valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94681 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Magna gratias tibi ago Aulus Scribonius Nasica!
Nasicae, may I recommend you type in your name after your posts so I can know whom to address?
Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra



On Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:58 PM, "Filippo Zizzo kanjinogo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Tul.Scholasticae magistrae pretiosae T.Marcio Quadrae et communibus sodalibus S.P.D. Aul. Scribonius Nasica,

 Dear Quadra, I'm not Cornelius Lentulus (he's professor of Latin at the University of Budapest and his Hungarian "civil" name is Attila Gonda) but I'm here in New Roma as : Aulus Scribonius Nasica ( my Italian "civil" name is Filippo Zizzo).
The concise  form of  Italian clause, as motto, in correct Italian is : " Mangiamo per vivere, cucina, per vivere meglio" ("We eat to live, cook (well or your best), to live better." In Italian clause there is no  word "well"- or" your best" because the sense is accomplished and understandable without the adverb. In Latin, my translation is : " Edimus ut vivamus,coque, ut melius vivamus".  I'd say the same thing for Latin adverb "bene" or "optime", but here - ubi maior , minor cessat- only Scholastica or Lentulus can and may say  the "last word" about!
Thanks, as always,  mea Scholastica dilecta urbanaque, for your valuable comments and correction of my improprieties in  Latin language;  but above all, for your nice comments on some  decided and  apparently" politically incorrect statements of mine. Thanks for your subtle humor and your support when I invoke you. 
Optime valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94682 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Salve Nasica,
I just noticed that you put your name in the beginning of your posts. I take it that this is a matter of preference, and either AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE END, or BOTH AT THE BEGINNING & END is acceptable.
Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:24 PM, Robin Marquardt <remarq777@...  
Tul.Scholasticae magistrae pretiosae T.Marcio Quadrae et communibus sodalibus S.P.D. Aul. Scribonius Nasica,

 Dear Quadra, I'm not Cornelius Lentulus (he's professor of Latin at the University of Budapest and his Hungarian "civil" name is Attila Gonda) but I'm here in New Roma as : Aulus Scribonius Nasica ( my Italian "civil" name is Filippo Zizzo).
The concise  form of  Italian clause, as motto, in correct Italian is : " Mangiamo per vivere, cucina, per vivere meglio" ("We eat to live, cook (well or your best), to live better." In Italian clause there is no  word "well"- or" your best" because the sense is accomplished and understandable without the adverb. In Latin, my translation is : " Edimus ut vivamus,coque, ut melius vivamus".  I'd say the same thing for Latin adverb "bene" or "optime", but here - ubi maior , minor cessat- only Scholastica or Lentulus can and may say  the "last word" about!
Thanks, as always,  mea Scholastica dilecta urbanaque, for your valuable comments and correction of my improprieties in  Latin language;  but above all, for your nice comments on some  decided and  apparently" politically incorrect statements of mine. Thanks for your subtle humor and your support when I invoke you. 
Optime valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94683 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Marcio Quadrae S.P.D. Aul. Scrib. Nasica,
If you need, I put in the post my name, so you may know , I'm writing. 
For the other question, my answer is as follows: in the header of the letter we can put either the name of the receiver in dative or  the name of the sender in nominative  at the beginning ( first position) or the  at the end (last position) or in the center indifferently. This is possible because  Latin language is flexible and with grammatical cases (nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, ablative and vocative) you can do these shifts without confusion. The choice is made only by you, t.i., if you want to give more importance to the receiver than to the sender . E.g., if I want to emphasize "Marcius Quadra", I put in the header at the beginning  "Marcio Quadrae (dative) et cetera"  on the contrary if I want to pay attention to the sender, I start: "Aulus Scribonius Nasica (nominative). So, you can choose the value to be given to the words as you think. For  courtesy form , however, the positions are:
  Dative (receiver) S.P.D. Nominative (sender).
Vale ( Filippo Zizzo- a.k.a. Aulus Scribonius Nasica)


Il Giovedì 1 Gennaio 2015 13:28, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Nasica,
I just noticed that you put your name in the beginning of your posts. I take it that this is a matter of preference, and either AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE END, or BOTH AT THE BEGINNING & END is acceptable.
Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:24 PM, Robin Marquardt <remarq777@...  
Tul.Scholasticae magistrae pretiosae T.Marcio Quadrae et communibus sodalibus S.P.D. Aul. Scribonius Nasica,

 Dear Quadra, I'm not Cornelius Lentulus (he's professor of Latin at the University of Budapest and his Hungarian "civil" name is Attila Gonda) but I'm here in New Roma as : Aulus Scribonius Nasica ( my Italian "civil" name is Filippo Zizzo).
The concise  form of  Italian clause, as motto, in correct Italian is : " Mangiamo per vivere, cucina, per vivere meglio" ("We eat to live, cook (well or your best), to live better." In Italian clause there is no  word "well"- or" your best" because the sense is accomplished and understandable without the adverb. In Latin, my translation is : " Edimus ut vivamus,coque, ut melius vivamus".  I'd say the same thing for Latin adverb "bene" or "optime", but here - ubi maior , minor cessat- only Scholastica or Lentulus can and may say  the "last word" about!
Thanks, as always,  mea Scholastica dilecta urbanaque, for your valuable comments and correction of my improprieties in  Latin language;  but above all, for your nice comments on some  decided and  apparently" politically incorrect statements of mine. Thanks for your subtle humor and your support when I invoke you. 
Optime valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94684 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office: Censor

Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus omnibus civibus Novæ Romæ S.P.D.

 

It is now four o’clock in the afternoon, Rome time, on a very cold Kalendæ Ianuarii day in the year 2768 a.U.c. / 2015 A.D., as I ascend the stairs of Capitol Hill to humbly present myself as the newly elected Censor of Nova Roma, and to offer you my Oath of Office.


I, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus (Ugo Coppola), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.


Accepting the position of Censor of Nova Roma, I, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.


I, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.


I, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.


I, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Censor to the best of my abilities.


On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Censor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

 

  

(LATINE)

 

Ego, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus (Ugo Coppola), hac re ipsa decus Novæ Romæ me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novæ Romæ acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.


Ego, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, officio Censori Novæ Romæ accepto, deos deasque Romæ in omnibus meæ vitæ publicæ temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.


Ego, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, Religioni Romanæ me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.


Ego, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, officiis muneris Censoris me quam optime functurum esse præterea IVRO.


Meo civis Novæ Romæ honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Censoris una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.

 

 

(ITALIANO)


Io, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus (Ugo Coppola), GIURO solennemente di difendere l’onore di Nova Roma e di agire sempre nei migliori interessi del Popolo e del Senato di Nova Roma.


Nell'atto di accettare l'incarico di Censore di Nova Roma, io, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus,GIURO di onorare le Divinità di Nova Roma nei miei rapporti pubblici e di seguire le Virtù Romane nella mia vita pubblica e privata


Io, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, GIURO di onorare e difendere la Religio Romana come Religione di Stato di Nova Roma e giuro di non agire mai in modo da minacciare la sua condizione di Religione di Stato.


Io, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, GIURO di proteggere e difendere la Costituzione di Nova Roma.


Io, Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus, GIURO altresì di adempiere agli obblighi ed alle responsabilità dell'incarico di Censore al meglio delle mie abilità.


Sul mio onore come Cittadino di Nova Roma, ed alla presenza delle Divinità del Popolo Romano e con il loro favore, ACCETTO l'incarico di Censore e tutti i diritti, i privilegi, gli obblighi e le responsabilità ad esso afferenti.

 

Optime valete omnes!

P. Annæus Constantinus Placidus

Censor Novæ Romæ

 



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94685 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: To our new Magistrates
Salvete!

I would like to take a moment to wish all our magistrates a productive,
satisfying, and (hopefully) relatively easy year. I wish you all good
fortune during your terms of office, and pray that the Gods will keep you in
their kind concern and protection.

Valete bene!
C. Maria Caeca
Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94686 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Nero
Salvete,
Nerom - is Nerom the accusative of Nero?
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94687 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)
Aulus Scribonius Nasicae S.P.D. Tiberius Marcius Quadra
Thanks for the guidance. I will review closely.
What does "t.i." mean?
TMQ



On Friday, January 2, 2015 1:17 AM, "Filippo Zizzo kanjinogo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Marcio Quadrae S.P.D. Aul. Scrib. Nasica,
If you need, I put in the post my name, so you may know , I'm writing. 
For the other question, my answer is as follows: in the header of the letter we can put either the name of the receiver in dative or  the name of the sender in nominative  at the beginning ( first position) or the  at the end (last position) or in the center indifferently. This is possible because  Latin language is flexible and with grammatical cases (nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, ablative and vocative) you can do these shifts without confusion. The choice is made only by you, t.i., if you want to give more importance to the receiver than to the sender . E.g., if I want to emphasize "Marcius Quadra", I put in the header at the beginning  "Marcio Quadrae (dative) et cetera"  on the contrary if I want to pay attention to the sender, I start: "Aulus Scribonius Nasica (nominative). So, you can choose the value to be given to the words as you think. For  courtesy form , however, the positions are:
  Dative (receiver) S.P.D. Nominative (sender).
Vale ( Filippo Zizzo- a.k.a. Aulus Scribonius Nasica)


Il Giovedì 1 Gennaio 2015 13:28, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Nasica,
I just noticed that you put your name in the beginning of your posts. I take it that this is a matter of preference, and either AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE END, or BOTH AT THE BEGINNING & END is acceptable.
Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:24 PM, Robin Marquardt <remarq777@...  
Tul.Scholasticae magistrae pretiosae T.Marcio Quadrae et communibus sodalibus S.P.D. Aul. Scribonius Nasica,

 Dear Quadra, I'm not Cornelius Lentulus (he's professor of Latin at the University of Budapest and his Hungarian "civil" name is Attila Gonda) but I'm here in New Roma as : Aulus Scribonius Nasica ( my Italian "civil" name is Filippo Zizzo).
The concise  form of  Italian clause, as motto, in correct Italian is : " Mangiamo per vivere, cucina, per vivere meglio" ("We eat to live, cook (well or your best), to live better." In Italian clause there is no  word "well"- or" your best" because the sense is accomplished and understandable without the adverb. In Latin, my translation is : " Edimus ut vivamus,coque, ut melius vivamus".  I'd say the same thing for Latin adverb "bene" or "optime", but here - ubi maior , minor cessat- only Scholastica or Lentulus can and may say  the "last word" about!
Thanks, as always,  mea Scholastica dilecta urbanaque, for your valuable comments and correction of my improprieties in  Latin language;  but above all, for your nice comments on some  decided and  apparently" politically incorrect statements of mine. Thanks for your subtle humor and your support when I invoke you. 
Optime valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94688 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Nero
Ave Marcie,
 Nerom is not a Latin word, you find it nowhere in a dictionary. 
Accusative case of word NERO ( nominative) is : NERONEM .
Cura ut valeas ( F. Zizzo aka Aul. Scrib. Nasica)


Il Giovedì 1 Gennaio 2015 20:48, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salvete,
Nerom - is Nerom the accusative of Nero?
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94689 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Fw: [Nova Roma] Why the Cook is the Chief (chef)

That is
Vale
Aul. Scrib. Nasica

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Da:"Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

Aulus Scribonius Nasicae S.P.D. Tiberius Marcius Quadra
Thanks for the guidance. I will review closely.
What does "t.i." mean?
TMQ



On Friday, January 2, 2015 1:17 AM, "Filippo Zizzo kanjinogo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Marcio Quadrae S.P.D. Aul. Scrib. Nasica,
If you need, I put in the post my name, so you may know , I'm writing. 
For the other question, my answer is as follows: in the header of the letter we can put either the name of the receiver in dative or  the name of the sender in nominative  at the beginning ( first position) or the  at the end (last position) or in the center indifferently. This is possible because  Latin language is flexible and with grammatical cases (nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, ablative and vocative) you can do these shifts without confusion. The choice is made only by you, t.i., if you want to give more importance to the receiver than to the sender . E.g., if I want to emphasize "Marcius Quadra", I put in the header at the beginning  "Marcio Quadrae (dative) et cetera"  on the contrary if I want to pay attention to the sender, I start: "Aulus Scribonius Nasica (nominative). So, you can choose the value to be given to the words as you think. For  courtesy form , however, the positions are:
  Dative (receiver) S.P.D. Nominative (sender).
Vale ( Filippo Zizzo- a.k.a. Aulus Scribonius Nasica)


Il Giovedì 1 Gennaio 2015 13:28, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Nasica,
I just noticed that you put your name in the beginning of your posts. I take it that this is a matter of preference, and either AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE END, or BOTH AT THE BEGINNING & END is acceptable.
Vale,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:24 PM, Robin Marquardt <remarq777@...  
Tul.Scholasticae magistrae pretiosae T.Marcio Quadrae et communibus sodalibus S.P.D. Aul. Scribonius Nasica,

 Dear Quadra, I'm not Cornelius Lentulus (he's professor of Latin at the University of Budapest and his Hungarian "civil" name is Attila Gonda) but I'm here in New Roma as : Aulus Scribonius Nasica ( my Italian "civil" name is Filippo Zizzo).
The concise  form of  Italian clause, as motto, in correct Italian is : " Mangiamo per vivere, cucina, per vivere meglio" ("We eat to live, cook (well or your best), to live better." In Italian clause there is no  word "well"- or" your best" because the sense is accomplished and understandable without the adverb. In Latin, my translation is : " Edimus ut vivamus,coque, ut melius vivamus".  I'd say the same thing for Latin adverb "bene" or "optime", but here - ubi maior , minor cessat- only Scholastica or Lentulus can and may say  the "last word" about!
Thanks, as always,  mea Scholastica dilecta urbanaque, for your valuable comments and correction of my improprieties in  Latin language;  but above all, for your nice comments on some  decided and  apparently" politically incorrect statements of mine. Thanks for your subtle humor and your support when I invoke you. 
Optime valete.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94690 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
M. Pompeius Caninus quiritibus omnibusque S.P.D.

Following the established tradition in our res publica, I rose before dawn and prepared to offer the consular ritual on the Kalends of January 2768 AUC. I covered my head and began the ritual at 9:00 am Alaska Time (8:00 am Hawaii Time, 7:00 pm Rome Time).

"Iane pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Ianus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma."] I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et enatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Mars, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Quirinus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the
patera on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, qui res publicas Novas Romanas nunc custodit defenditque perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum custodivit defenditque, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, who protects and defends the public affairs of Nova Roma just as he protected and defended the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, qui materne nunc Senatum Populumque Novae Romae nutrit perinde ac Senatum Populumque Romanum in tempore patrum nostrorum nutrivit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuno, queen
of the Gods, who maternally nurtures the Senate and People of Nova Roma just as she nurtured the Senate and People of Rome in the time of our fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, qui recte res publicas Novas Romanas ducit perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum duxit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, who rightly guides the public affairs of Nova Roma just as she rightly guided the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

Salus, benefactrix Senatus Populique Romani et fideiussorix salutis nostrae, qui Novam Romam conservat perinde ac Romam antiquam conservavit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Salus, benefactor of the Roman Senate and People and guarantor of our well-being, who preserves Nova Roma just as she preserved ancient Rome, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]."

Again I washed my hands.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuppiter Optimus Maximus cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuno, queen of the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuno cakes and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Minerva cakes, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Salus, benefactrix Novae Romae, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Salus, benefactrix of Nova Roma, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Salus cakes and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Dea Vesta, custos ignis sacri, macte vino inferio esto [Goddess Vesta, guardian of the sacred fire, be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Illicet. [It is over.]"

I profaned some of the wine and cakes, and consumed them, praying as I ate and offering libations in my private devotions.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxmime, Iuno, Minerva et Salus, Di Immortales, si quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio [Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus, Immortal Gods, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing to you, with this humble wine I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.]" I poured a libation on the focus of the altar.

Ego, Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul Novae Romae, sacrificium Dis Immortalibus, Iovi, Iunoni, Minervae et Saluti pro salute rei publicae et senatus in Kalendis posteris Ianuarii voveo [I, Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul of Nova Roma, vow a sacrifice to the Immortal Gods Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus on the next Kalends of January]."

May the gods protect us all and may we find good fortune in the new year.

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Consul Novae Romae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94691 From: Jiri Rys Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office - Quaestor
Salvete, omnibus in foro!

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
 
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
 
I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
 
I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
 
I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Quaestor to the best of my abilities.
 
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Quaestor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto. 

Valete bene!

Tiberius Iulius Nerva
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94692 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, pontifex, praefectus Italiae, leagtus pro praetore Pannoniae: consuli, praetoribus, tribunis plebis et senatui populoque Novo Romano omnibusque Quiritibus: s. p. d.:

+ + + BONUM FAUSTUM FELICEM FORTUNATUM ANNUM NOVUM MMDCCLXVIII + + +

Happy, prosperous, propitious and blessed New Year! At these Kalends of January, the holiday of Father Ianus, the day of our New Year, I salute our new magistrates and everyone.

As I always do for Nova Roma at New Year' Day, as pontifex, I conducted this New Year's ritual before my home altar after midnight for Nova Roma, for Her new magistrates, for the collegium pontificum, and as praefectus Italiae and legatus pro praetore of Pannonia, for my provinces.

SACRIFICE FOR THE KALENDS OF JANUARY, BEGINNING OF 2768 AUC, THE CONSULATE OF M. POMPEIUS SINE COLLEGA (so far)

Favete linguis!

(Beginning of the sacrifice.)

PRAEFATIO

Iane pater, deus novi initii,
te hoc ture commovendo
bonas preces precor,
uti sies volens propitius
Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae!

(Incense is placed in the focus of the altar.)

Iane pater, deus novi initii,
uti te ture commovendo
bonas preces precatus sum,
eiusdem rei ergo
macte vino inferio esto!

(Libation of wine is made.)

PRECATIO TO IANUS

Iane pater, deus novi initii,
custos futuri et praeteriti temporis sanctissime,
his Kalendis Ianuariis anni novi nunc incepti
te precor, veneror, detestorque quaesoque:
uti laetitiam fortunamque,
omnes eventus bonos fautosque,
fortunatos felicissimosque,
pacem concordiamque constantem
societati Novae Romae tribuas;
utique Rem Publicam Populi Novi Romani Quiritium
confirmes, augeas, adiuves,
omnibusque inceptibus conatibusque Populi Novi Romani Quiritium faveas,
utique sies volens propitius
novo consuli M. Pompeio Canino,
novis praetoribus Sex. Lucilio Tutori et A. Liburnio Hadriano, 
quaestoribus omnibusque novis magistratibus,
collegio pontificum,
Senatui Populoque Novo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae!


SACRIFICIUM TO IANUS

Quarum rerum ergo macte
hoc libo libando,
hoc vino libando,
hoc ture ommovendo
esto fito volens propitius
novo consuli M. Pompeio Canino,
novis praetoribus Sex. Lucilio Tutori et A. Liburnio Hadriano, 
quaestoribus omnibusque novis magistratibus,
collegio pontificum,
Senatui Populoque Novo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae!

(Libum is sacrificed, libation is made and incense is sacrificed.)

PRECATIO TO THE MAIN GODS

GRATIARUM ACTIO

Iane,
Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva,
Quirine, Venus, Vesta, Mercuri, Concordia, Fortuna!
Penates, Lares,
di Novensiles, dique Indigetes,
omnes divi quocumque nomine,
quorum est potestas nostrum hostiumque,
dique Manes!
Vos quaeso precorque,
uti vos praeteriti proxime anni Kalendis Ianuariis
bonis precibus bene precatus sum,
quibusque uti precibus satisfecistis:
earundem rerum ergo propterque omnia in praeterito proxime anno alia
rei publicae Novae Romanae et populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae data beneficia
macte his turis granis sacrificandis et hoc vino libando
estote fitote volentes propitii!

(After these words incense and wine were sacrificied.)

NEW YEAR REQUESTS

Quarum rerum ergo, quodque melius siet
renascenti Populo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae
in hodie incepto novo anno vobis sacrum fiat:
Vos precor, veneror, veniam peto feroque,
uti Res Nostra, Res Romae reficiundae,
regignundi ac renascentis Populi Romani Quiritium,
Reique Publicae Populi Romani Quiritium renaturae
semper crescat, convalescat, continenter extendatur, augeatur;
fiantque multo plures Novi Romani Quirites;
motusque et consociatio ad Rem Romanam reficiundam instituatur;
utique Res Publica Populi Novi Romani Quiritium semper floreat;
utique Italia Nova Romana, cuius praefectus sum, crescat, floreat,
multosque cives habeat;
utique Provincia Pannonia, cuius legatus pro praetore sum, crescat, floreat,
multosque cives habeat;
utique Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae
omnes in hodie incepto novo anno eventus bonos faustosque esse siritis;
utique sitis volentes propitii Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Praefecturae Italiae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Provinciaeque Pannoniae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
novis magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebei Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
quaestoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae!

PRECATIO TO IUPPITER

Iuppiter Optime Maxime,
earundem rerum ergo te precor quaesoque,
uti sies volens propitius Populo Novo Romano Quiritibus,
Reique Publicae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Praefecturae Italiae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
Provinciaeque Pannoniae Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
novis magistratibus, consulibus, praetoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
tribunis Plebei Novae Romanae,
Senatui Novo Romano,
quaestoribus Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
mihi, domo, familiae!

PRECATIO TO THE PATRIOTIC GODS 

Quirine, Dea Roma, Dea Italia, Venus Genetrix, Mars,
Penates, Lares, Manes maiorum nostrum,
omnes di quocumque nomine, qui Romam favetis favebatis,
earundem rerum ergo vos precor quaesoque,
uti fiant multo plures Novi Romani Quirites;
utique ex societate Novae Romae verus motus et consociatio fieri possit,
ex qua Populus Romanus Quiritium
Resque Publica Populi Romani Quiritium renascatur;
utique Novae Romae Societas Italica in Italia et Pannonica in Hungaria 
magni momenti fiant!

PRECATIO TO THE MAIN GODDESSES

Deae Iuno et Vesta,
earundem rerum ergo vos precor quaesoque,
uti domos familiasque Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
domum familiamque meam protegatis, curetis, custodiatis;
utique domos familiasque Populi Novi Romani Quiritium,
domum familiamque meam ab omnibus malis conservetis!

SACRIFICIUM COMMUNE TO THE GODS INVOKED

Sicut verba nuncupavi, quae ita faxitis, uti ego me sentio dicere:
harum rerum ergo macte
his tribus libis libandis
hoc vino lacte melleque mixto libando,
his turis granis sacrificandis
estote fitote in hodie incepto novo anno
volentes propitii renascenti Populo Romano Quiritibus,
mihi, domo, familiae!

(Libation of wine is made)

Ilicet!

(End of the sacrifice.)

PIACULUM

Iane,
Iuppiter Optime Maxmime, Iuno, Minerva, 
Omnes Di Immortales quocumque nomine:
si quidquam vobis in hac caerimonia displicuit,
hoc vino inferio
veniam peto
et vitium meum expio.

(Libation of wine is made.)

+ + + BONUM FAUSTUM FELICEM FORTUNATUM ANNUM NOVUM MMDCCLXVIII + + +

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
LONG LIVE NOVA ROMA!


Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, pontifex
QUAESTOR
praefectus Italiae 
leg. pr. pr. Pannoniae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94693 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Cn. Lentulus quaestor et pontifex M. Pompeio consuli et pontifici s. p. d.

Thank you, Consul Marce Pompei Canine, for continuing this essential and important Roman tradition of ours!

Have a successful year!

Vale!
Cn. Lentulus, pontifex
quaestor

Da: "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
M. Pompeius Caninus quiritibus omnibusque S.P.D.

Following the established tradition in our res publica, I rose before dawn and prepared to offer the consular ritual on the Kalends of January 2768 AUC. I covered my head and began the ritual at 9:00 am Alaska Time (8:00 am Hawaii Time, 7:00 pm Rome Time).

"Iane pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Ianus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma."] I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et enatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Mars, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Quirinus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the
patera on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, qui res publicas Novas Romanas nunc custodit defenditque perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum custodivit defenditque, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, who protects and defends the public affairs of Nova Roma just as he protected and defended the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, qui materne nunc Senatum Populumque Novae Romae nutrit perinde ac Senatum Populumque Romanum in tempore patrum nostrorum nutrivit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuno, queen
of the Gods, who maternally nurtures the Senate and People of Nova Roma just as she nurtured the Senate and People of Rome in the time of our fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, qui recte res publicas Novas Romanas ducit perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum duxit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, who rightly guides the public affairs of Nova Roma just as she rightly guided the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

Salus, benefactrix Senatus Populique Romani et fideiussorix salutis nostrae, qui Novam Romam conservat perinde ac Romam antiquam conservavit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Salus, benefactor of the Roman Senate and People and guarantor of our well-being, who preserves Nova Roma just as she preserved ancient Rome, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]."

Again I washed my hands.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuppiter Optimus Maximus cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuno, queen of the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuno cakes and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Minerva cakes, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Salus, benefactrix Novae Romae, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Salus, benefactrix of Nova Roma, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Salus cakes and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Dea Vesta, custos ignis sacri, macte vino inferio esto [Goddess Vesta, guardian of the sacred fire, be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Illicet. [It is over.]"

I profaned some of the wine and cakes, and consumed them, praying as I ate and offering libations in my private devotions.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxmime, Iuno, Minerva et Salus, Di Immortales, si quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio [Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus, Immortal Gods, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing to you, with this humble wine I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.]" I poured a libation on the focus of the altar.

Ego, Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul Novae Romae, sacrificium Dis Immortalibus, Iovi, Iunoni, Minervae et Saluti pro salute rei publicae et senatus in Kalendis posteris Ianuarii voveo [I, Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul of Nova Roma, vow a sacrifice to the Immortal Gods Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus on the next Kalends of January]."

May the gods protect us all and may we find good fortune in the new year.

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Consul Novae Romae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94694 From: sextus_lucilius_tutor Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of Office - Praetor

Salvete, 


this is my oath. I hope there my the mandate brings blessing for all citizens of Nova Roma. 


I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor (Dorry Majzner) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma. As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life. I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion. I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma. I, Sextus Lucilius Tutor further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of PRAETOR to the best of my abilities. On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of PRAETOR and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto


-------------------------------------------


Ego, Sextus Lucilius Tutor, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO. Ego, Sextus Lucilius Tutor, officio Praetoris Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO. Ego, Sextus Lucilius Tutor, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO. Ego, Sextus Lucilius Tutor officiis muneris PRAETORIS me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO. Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus PRAETORIS una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.


Valete

Sextus Lucilius Tutor

 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94695 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Wiki page for 2768 AUC
Caninus omnibus in foro s.p.d.

I have updated the page for 2768 AUC and the list of magistrates. Please take a look at http://novaroma.org/nr/MMDCCLXVIII and let me know if there any corrections, omissions or problems that need to be fixed. 

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94696 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Oath of office
Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus quiritibus omnibusque salutem plurimam
dicit.

I,Alaimo Bruno Zani (Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings,and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Praetor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
I accept the position of Praetor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

LATIN VERSION

Ego, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum
esse sollemniter IVRO.

Ego, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibusculturum, et virtutes Romanas publica
privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus, constitutionis Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper acturum esse sollemniter IVRO

Ego, Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus officiis muneris Praetoris me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Praetoris Novae Romae una cum iuribus,privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94697 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Scriba appointment
Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit.

Edictum Praetorium
 

I.  Caia Maria Caeca is hereby re-appointed as praetorian scriba.

II.   No oath is required. This edict becomes effective immediately.

Enacted on the first of January in the year of the Consulship of Marcus Pompeius Caninus, 2768 AUC

Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94698 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
TM.Quadra  Lentulus pontifex Pompeio salutem plurimam dicit,
Isn't our new year, the new year of Romans, on circa March or April?
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra



On Friday, January 2, 2015 8:19 AM, "'Cn. Cornelius Lentulus' cn_corn_lent@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Cn. Lentulus quaestor et pontifex M. Pompeio consuli et pontifici s. p. d.

Thank you, Consul Marce Pompei Canine, for continuing this essential and important Roman tradition of ours!

Have a successful year!

Vale!
Cn. Lentulus, pontifex
quaestor

Da: "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
M. Pompeius Caninus quiritibus omnibusque S.P.D.

Following the established tradition in our res publica, I rose before dawn and prepared to offer the consular ritual on the Kalends of January 2768 AUC. I covered my head and began the ritual at 9:00 am Alaska Time (8:00 am Hawaii Time, 7:00 pm Rome Time).

"Iane pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Ianus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma."] I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et enatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Mars, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, te hoc ture ommovendo bonas preces precor, uti sies volens propitius mihi et Senatui Populoque Novae Romae [Father Quirinus, by offering this incense to you I pray good prayers, so that you may be propitious to me and the Senate and People of Nova Roma.]" I placed incense in the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the
patera on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, qui res publicas Novas Romanas nunc custodit defenditque perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum custodivit defenditque, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, who protects and defends the public affairs of Nova Roma just as he protected and defended the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, qui materne nunc Senatum Populumque Novae Romae nutrit perinde ac Senatum Populumque Romanum in tempore patrum nostrorum nutrivit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Iuno, queen
of the Gods, who maternally nurtures the Senate and People of Nova Roma just as she nurtured the Senate and People of Rome in the time of our fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, qui recte res publicas Novas Romanas ducit perinde ac res publicas patrum nostrorum Romanorum duxit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, who rightly guides the public affairs of Nova Roma just as she rightly guided the public affairs of our Roman fathers, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]." I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

Salus, benefactrix Senatus Populique Romani et fideiussorix salutis nostrae, qui Novam Romam conservat perinde ac Romam antiquam conservavit, tibi fieri oportet in hoc tempore initii culignam vini dapi, eius rei ergo hac illace dape pullucenda esto [Salus, benefactor of the Roman Senate and People and guarantor of our well-being, who preserves Nova Roma just as she preserved ancient Rome, to you it is proper for a cup of wine to be given in this time of beginning, for the sake of this thing may you be honoured by this feast offering]."

Again I washed my hands.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxime, rex Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuppiter Best and Greatest, king of the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuppiter Optimus Maximus cakes, a leaf of laurel, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Iuno, regina Deorum, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Iuno, queen of the Gods, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Iuno cakes and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Minerva, sapientia aeterna, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Minerva, eternal wisdom, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Minerva cakes, and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Salus, benefactrix Novae Romae, macte istace dape pollucenda esto, macte vino inferio esto [Salus, benefactrix of Nova Roma, may you be honoured by this feast offering, may you be honoured by the humble wine.]" I offered Salus cakes and wine on the focus of the altar.

"Quirine pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Quirinus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Mars pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Mars, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Iane pater, uti te ture ommovendo bonas preces bene precatus sum, eiusdem rei ergo macte vino inferio esto [Father Ianus, as by offering to you the incense virtuous prayers were well prayed, for the sake of this be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Dea Vesta, custos ignis sacri, macte vino inferio esto [Goddess Vesta, guardian of the sacred fire, be honoured by this humble wine.]" I poured a libation from the patera on the focus of the altar.

"Illicet. [It is over.]"

I profaned some of the wine and cakes, and consumed them, praying as I ate and offering libations in my private devotions.

"Iuppiter Optime Maxmime, Iuno, Minerva et Salus, Di Immortales, si quidquam tibi in hac caerimonia displicet, hoc vino inferio veniam peto et vitium meum expio [Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus, Immortal Gods, if anything in this ceremony is displeasing to you, with this humble wine I ask forgiveness and expiate my fault.]" I poured a libation on the focus of the altar.

Ego, Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul Novae Romae, sacrificium Dis Immortalibus, Iovi, Iunoni, Minervae et Saluti pro salute rei publicae et senatus in Kalendis posteris Ianuarii voveo [I, Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul of Nova Roma, vow a sacrifice to the Immortal Gods Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva, and Salus on the next Kalends of January]."

May the gods protect us all and may we find good fortune in the new year.

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Consul Novae Romae
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94699 From: Tiberius Cassius Atellus Date: 2015-01-01
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Ave Marci Quadra,

The Roman new year began in March, back in the earlier days of their history, but then Iulius Caesar changed it to the beginning of January, and that has remained since, to our time. oF note, also, is that the anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma is in March, and the founding of Roma Antiqua is traditionally held as being in September.

If you want more information, see this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar

Vale.

Ti. Cassius Atellus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94700 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Wiki page for 2768 AUC
TM.Quadra in foro salutem plurimam dicit,
There's a lot of nemo. What do I got to do if I were to choose an office?
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Friday, January 2, 2015 11:01 AM, "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Caninus omnibus in foro s.p.d.

I have updated the page for 2768 AUC and the list of magistrates. Please take a look at http://novaroma.org/nr/MMDCCLXVIII and let me know if there any corrections, omissions or problems that need to be fixed. 

Facite valeatis!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94701 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Thank you Pontifex for the ritual prayer!

Might I ask you a few questions about Roman religion? I've been thinking of learning to do it in my home. Is it considered 'bad' to 'try out' the rituals on your own?

Also, how much wine constitutes a libation? I've read the wiki pages on this, but they don't seem to cover much other than how to set up an altar.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94702 From: robert574674 Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Witness of Imperium
Salvete Omnes!

I, Gaius Marcius Crispus, Lictor of Nova Roma hereby witness:

The appointment and investment with Imperium of the following magistrates of Nova Roma: Marcus Pompeius Caninus as Consul maior, Sextus Lucilius Tutor as Praetor maior and Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus as Praetor minor.

As a member of the Comitia Curiata I wish them good fortune in their offices and in their work on behalf of the Religio Romana.


Valete Omnes, 


Gaius Marcius Crispus

Lictor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94703 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Augustus Caesar
Salvete,
Does anyone know the inscription at the center and right of this The Gate of Mazaeus and Mithridates at Ephesus, a.k.a. the Gate of Augustus
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra



On Monday, December 29, 2014 6:59 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Quadra Caninae spd;
By "fat fingered" you mean fouled up or omitted?
Thanks for the accurated update.
Bene valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


On Monday, December 29, 2014 6:12 AM, "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Caninus Quadrae spd.

I fat fingered the dative at the beginning of the inscription, it should be:

"For Emperor Caesar Augustus, the son of the god, the Pontifex Maximus, who was consul twelve times and tribune twenty times; and the wife of Caesar Augustus, Livia; Mazeus and"
 
Bene vale!

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
 
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94704 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Salvete Omnes:


Congratulations and best of luck Caninus on the path ahead.


Valete bene,
Aeternia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94705 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-02
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
TM.Quadra Aeterniae Salvete in foro,
Your motto "De mortuis nil nisi bonum" I believe means ABOUT THE DEAD, SAY NOTHING BUT GOOD. Am I correct?

If so, what are your experiences about talking about the deceased?

I ask because it seems that it's only after a person dies, that all the people he or she hurt, are able to express their disgust of the said dead person, e.g. she poisoned my dad; she cursed my nephew to get hit by a car; she had sex for money to pay for gambling; he touched my breasts; he (uncle in law) put his penis in my hand when I was 8 years old... crazy accusations like this, but true I suppose as these came from my close family members, though definitely hearsay.
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


On Saturday, January 3, 2015 4:10 AM, "Belle Morte Statia syrenslullaby@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salvete Omnes:


Congratulations and best of luck Caninus on the path ahead.


Valete bene,
Aeternia

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Tiberius Cassius Atellus ti.cassius.atellus@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94706 From: David Parker Date: 2015-01-03
Subject: Oath of Office - Tribune of the Plebs

I, Marcus Martianius Lupus (David Parker), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Martianius Lupus, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Marcus Martianius Lupus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Marcus Martianius Lupus, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Marcus Martianius Lupus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Tribune of the Plebs to the best of my abilities.
On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Tribune of the Plebs and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
 

Ego, Marcus Martianius Lupus (David Parker), hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse sollemniter IVRO.
Ego, Marcus Martianius Lupus, officio Tribuni Plebis Novae Romae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.
Ego, Marcus Martianius Lupus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.
Ego, Marcus Martianius Lupus, officiis muneris Tribuni Plebis me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.
Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus Tribuni Plebis una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94707 From: reenbru Date: 2015-01-04
Subject: Praetorian Edict of moderation

A. Liburnius Hadrianus et Sextus Lucilius Tutor quiritibus S.P.D


Edictum Praetorianum 


I. The current moderation edicts remain in force.

II. The praetores reserve the right to modify them in the future.


Valete optime

A.Liburnius Hadrianus  et Sextus Lucilius Tutor, praetores

 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94708 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-04
Subject: Appointment of Censor Scribe
Avete Omnes,

CENSORIAL EDICT RE APPOINTMENT OF SCRIBE

I, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix censor of Nova Roma, appoint Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as censorial scribe.

II. As an apparitor Gnaeus Iulius Caesar shall receive 5 (five) census points.

III. This appointment takes effect immediately and no oath is required.

IV.  This is my request to Consul Caninus to comply with the Senatus Consulta regarding Scribes having access to the Censor Database.

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
Censor of Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94709 From: Sextus Lucilius Tutor Date: 2015-01-05
Subject: Edictum Praetorium II Sex. Lucili Tutoris de scriba creando
Sex. Lucilius Tutor praetor Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

EDICTUM PRAETORIUM II. SEX. LUCILII TUTORIS
 

I.  Gaius Marcius Crispus is hereby re-appointed as scriba praetorius.

II.  No oath is required.

III. This edict becomes effective immediately.


Date Hodié Non. Ian. ‡ M. Pompeio cos. sine collega ‡ MMDCCLXVIII a.u.c. est. "E"


--

Sextus Lucilius Tutor
Praetor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94710 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Salve amicae!

There is no harm in trying out the rituals but you may want to start with simple prayers with offerings of incense and wine (or milk depending on the deity). Start with the lares and maybe a god or goddess you feel particulary connected with. There are a few good books on Roman religion but you won't find much in the way of nuts and bolts how-to instructions. Regarding the libations, offer what you feel is best but a shot (one and one-half ounces) is enough. In a ritual with multiple deities being petitioned, such as the consular new year ritual, you will end up with a enough libations to nearly fill an eight ounce wine cup. Also, keep in mind that for deities who dwell in the earth, such as Proserpina or Consus, you will need to perform the ritual outdoors and pour the wine on the ground. You can get answers to your questions and open discussions in the Religio Romano Yahoo group. 

Fac valeas! 

Marcus Pompeius Caninus
 
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94711 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
Cn. Lentulus Valeriae Pavoni sal.

Sorry for the slow answer, but I'm finally here. Also, thanks to M. Pompeius who has already answered you.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94712 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Lentulus Cassio optimo s. p. d.

Good remarks, I would like to add only that actually the Roman year started with January from much earlier than Julius Caesar's reforms. Scholars think the change from the March year start to January happened sometime between the 3rd-2nd centuries BC. The consuls entered office on Jan. 1. since 153 BC, but indirect evidences from ancient historians indicate January was the start of the civil year since about the 3rd century.

Vale optime!
LENT.

Da: "Tiberius Cassius Atellus ti.cassius.atellus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave Marci Quadra,

The Roman new year began in March, back in the earlier days of their history, but then Iulius Caesar changed it to the beginning of January, and that has remained since, to our time. oF note, also, is that the anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma is in March, and the founding of Roma Antiqua is traditionally held as being in September.

If you want more information, see this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar

Vale.

Ti. Cassius Atellus



On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94713 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Salve Quadratus et Salvete Omnes:


I'm sorry but I finally have to say this..


Quadratus what are you on?  And why are you not sharing with the rest of us?


Valete bene,
Aeternia


TM.Quadra Aeterniae Salvete in foro,
Your motto "De mortuis nil nisi bonum" I believe means ABOUT THE DEAD, SAY NOTHING BUT GOOD. Am I correct?

If so, what are your experiences about talking about the deceased? 

I ask because it seems that it's only after a person dies, that all the people he or she hurt, are able to express their disgust of the said dead person, e.g. she poisoned my dad; she cursed my nephew to get hit by a car; she had sex for money to pay for gambling; he touched my breasts; he (uncle in law) put his penis in my hand when I was 8 years old... crazy accusations like this, but true I suppose as these came from my close family members, though definitely hearsay.
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94714 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Salve, Aeternia!

I think you may have mixed me up with someone else.  Quadratus (that's me) lives in Montreal.  Quadra (that's him) lives in Guam near the antipode of Montreal.  He is, geographically, about as far away from me as it is possible to get on this planet.  Please do not confuse us.

Quadratus (from Montreal)

To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 08:52:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC

 

Salve Quadratus et Salvete Omnes:


I'm sorry but I finally have to say this..


Quadratus what are you on?  And why are you not sharing with the rest of us?


Valete bene,
Aeternia


TM.Quadra Aeterniae Salvete in foro,
Your motto "De mortuis nil nisi bonum" I believe means ABOUT THE DEAD, SAY NOTHING BUT GOOD. Am I correct?

If so, what are your experiences about talking about the deceased? 

I ask because it seems that it's only after a person dies, that all the people he or she hurt, are able to express their disgust of the said dead person, e.g. she poisoned my dad; she cursed my nephew to get hit by a car; she had sex for money to pay for gambling; he touched my breasts; he (uncle in law) put his penis in my hand when I was 8 years old... crazy accusations like this, but true I suppose as these came from my close family members, though definitely hearsay.
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94715 From: Titus Iulius Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Salvete omnes!
I just wanted to add in Rome, traditionally the year began in March, but how Cn. Cornelius says, the year started to begin in January in the second century BC and it was quite necessary to appoint consuls advance due to the distances they had to travel to take care of wars. But this year still had 355 days and also stations did not match the months of the year. With the reform of Julius Caesar, at the end of s. I BC, was able to fix the situation with the solar calendar of 365 days, being a leap year every four years.
Valete
Titus Iulius Canus


On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:16 PM, "'Cn. Cornelius Lentulus' cn_corn_lent@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Lentulus Cassio optimo s. p. d.

Good remarks, I would like to add only that actually the Roman year started with January from much earlier than Julius Caesar's reforms. Scholars think the change from the March year start to January happened sometime between the 3rd-2nd centuries BC. The consuls entered office on Jan. 1. since 153 BC, but indirect evidences from ancient historians indicate January was the start of the civil year since about the 3rd century.

Vale optime!
LENT.

Da: "Tiberius Cassius Atellus ti.cassius.atellus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave Marci Quadra,

The Roman new year began in March, back in the earlier days of their history, but then Iulius Caesar changed it to the beginning of January, and that has remained since, to our time. oF note, also, is that the anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma is in March, and the founding of Roma Antiqua is traditionally held as being in September.

If you want more information, see this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar

Vale.

Ti. Cassius Atellus



On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com




Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94716 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
TM.Quadra Aeterniae Salvete in foro,
Aeterniae, Quadrata is correct. Assuming you mean, "what am I (Quadra) on" ... well, its a long story. Summed up, I'm on Mars, I have eaten the forbidden fruit (magic mushrooms) about 23 years ago, and yes it's made me see the world in a different light - or should I say different wave length, i.e. matter seen in its liquid form.
So I hereby offer this edict per your request: try magic mushrooms.
Valete cum Mars gravior sub pace latet,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 4:27 AM, "Titus Iulius alhernandezreal@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salvete omnes!
I just wanted to add in Rome, traditionally the year began in March, but how Cn. Cornelius says, the year started to begin in January in the second century BC and it was quite necessary to appoint consuls advance due to the distances they had to travel to take care of wars. But this year still had 355 days and also stations did not match the months of the year. With the reform of Julius Caesar, at the end of s. I BC, was able to fix the situation with the solar calendar of 365 days, being a leap year every four years.
Valete
Titus Iulius Canus


On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:16 PM, "'Cn. Cornelius Lentulus' cn_corn_lent@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Lentulus Cassio optimo s. p. d.

Good remarks, I would like to add only that actually the Roman year started with January from much earlier than Julius Caesar's reforms. Scholars think the change from the March year start to January happened sometime between the 3rd-2nd centuries BC. The consuls entered office on Jan. 1. since 153 BC, but indirect evidences from ancient historians indicate January was the start of the civil year since about the 3rd century.

Vale optime!
LENT.

Da: "Tiberius Cassius Atellus ti.cassius.atellus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave Marci Quadra,

The Roman new year began in March, back in the earlier days of their history, but then Iulius Caesar changed it to the beginning of January, and that has remained since, to our time. oF note, also, is that the anniversary of the founding of Nova Roma is in March, and the founding of Roma Antiqua is traditionally held as being in September.

If you want more information, see this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar

Vale.

Ti. Cassius Atellus



On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com






Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94717 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC

Ave,

Please Tink...do not try the mushroom.

Boy does this sound like a back alley thread.

Vale,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94718 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-06
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Salvete,
Sulla is right. Don't do drugs ... but since she was wondering.
Sounds like we're off to a good start 2768!
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra
 



On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:26 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave,
Please Tink...do not try the mushroom.
Boy does this sound like a back alley thread.
Vale,
Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94719 From: Diana Octavia Aventina Date: 2015-01-07
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
Salve T Marcius Quadra,

< e.g. she poisoned my dad; she cursed my nephew to get hit by a car; she
had sex for money to pay for gambling; he touched my breasts; he (uncle in
law) put his penis in my hand when <I was 8 years old... crazy accusations
like this, but true I suppose as these came from my close family members,
though definitely hearsay.

And I thought that I had a dysfunctional family...

Vale,
Diana Octavia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94720 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-07
Subject: Re: Consular Ritual for the Year 2768 AUC
TM.Quadra Aventinae Salve et salutem plurimam dicit,
I'm pretty sure if I lived in circa 1BC to 1AD, I'd either have killed, been killed, and or not have been born. Our early Roman ancestors paved the way, living during a ruthless time, for us to live a safer life.
Yes; serious dysfunctions, that I am actively trying to end, this cycle of stupidity ignorance complacency... the list goes on.
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra



On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:58 PM, "'Diana Octavia Aventina' romanbabe@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve T Marcius Quadra,

< e.g. she poisoned my dad; she cursed my nephew to get hit by a car; she
had sex for money to pay for gambling; he touched my breasts; he (uncle in
law) put his penis in my hand when <I was 8 years old... crazy accusations
like this, but true I suppose as these came from my close family members,
though definitely hearsay.

And I thought that I had a dysfunctional family...

Vale,
Diana Octavia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94721 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-08
Subject: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba
Publius Annæus Constantinus Placidus omnibus in Foro S. P. D.

I hereby appoint the following citizen as my Scriba, to assist me in the
management of the Censura:

- Gaius Claudius Quadratus, ID #14407

This Edict is effective immediately. No oath is required.

Given under my hand today, a.d. VI Id. Ian. 2768 a.U.c. (January 8th, 2015).

Optime valete omnes!
P. Ann. Con. Placidus
Censor Novæ Romæ

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94722 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-08
Subject: Re: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba

Ave amice,

Remember our scribes cannot have access to the censor database  until they have been approved by the senate.  This is why I requested to our new consul add our scribes to the next senate agenda. 

Respectfully,

Sull

On Jan 8, 2015 3:34 PM, "Ugo Coppola ugo.coppola@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94723 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-09
Subject: Re: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba
Il 09/01/2015 02:39, Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma] ha scritto:
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94724 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-09
Subject: Re: CENSORIAL EDICT: Appointment of Scriba

Ave amice

Ok good I was just making sure.

I made a mistake  thinking Caesar needed approval, but he does not. 

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94725 From: Tiberius Cassius Atellus Date: 2015-01-09
Subject: Quaestorial Record of Magisterial Oaths
Salvete quirites,

We, the quaestura, in further restoring the procedures and traditions of ancient Roman law, and in further carrying out the duties of our office, have officially witnessed and recorded the oaths of office, as given by each of the new magistrates who have taken office for the year of 2015.

We have made this official record publicly accessible on the Nova Roma website. Please take a look:

http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Oaths_of_office_2768_AUC

We look forward to making the most of a new year of opportunity for our Res Publica.

Valete optime!

Ti. Cassius Atellus
Quaestor
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94726 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-10
Subject: This day in Ancient Roman history
Salvete Omnes!

On today, the 10th of January, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with the
13th Legion into Italy, and thus began the Civil war that lasted from 49 BC
until 45 BC. He did indeed cast the die, and won, at least in the short
term.

Valete bene!
C. Maria Caeca
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94727 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2015-01-10
Subject: Latin phrase of the day., Sunday, 11 January 2015
Attachments :
    "Latin phrase of the day." reminder
    When
    Sunday, 11 January 2015
    12:00 AM to 12:00 AM
    (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
    Notes
    Ab urbe condita - From the foundation of the city. (Rome)
    From
    Nova-Roma   Calendar
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94728 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-10
    Subject: Re: This day in Ancient Roman history
    Salvete,
    Sed hodie, de X Januarii, Iulius Caesar transgressus finis Rubiconem cum XIII legionem in Italiam, et sic bellum civile ex duravit  XLIX BC donec XLV BC. Fecisse quidem moriuntur eius rei, et fecit, certe exigua termino.
     
    On today, the 10th of January, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with the
    13th Legion into Italy, and thus began the Civil war that lasted from 49 BC
    until 45 BC. He did indeed cast the die, and won, at least in the short
    term.

    If anyone there would like to correct my Latin grammar please do so (explaining the grammar rules not necessary, as I'll figure out the differences with my translation and a proper translation with my Wheelock Latin book).
    Valete et gratius tibi ago,
    Tiberius Marcius Quadra


    On Sunday, January 11, 2015 2:57 AM, "'cmc' c.mariacaeca@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Salvete Omnes!

    On today, the 10th of January, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with the
    13th Legion into Italy, and thus began the Civil war that lasted from 49 BC
    until 45 BC. He did indeed cast the die, and won, at least in the short
    term.

    Valete bene!
    C. Maria Caeca
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94729 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-11
    Subject: Re: NEW YEAR RITUAL FOR NOVA ROMA
    Thank you both for your responses :)

    I will share my experiences after building my shrine and performing some simple rituals.




    On Wednesday, 7 January 2015, 2:08, "'Cn. Cornelius Lentulus' cn_corn_lent@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Cn. Lentulus Valeriae Pavoni sal.

    Sorry for the slow answer, but I'm finally here. Also, thanks to M. Pompeius who has already answered you.
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94730 From: tiberiusiuliusnerva Date: 2015-01-12
    Subject: Local contact points in countries

    Salvete omnes!


    Nova Roma has some citizens in countries where we havent provinces (for example Bulgaria, Estonia, Iran, Indonesia, Australia and so on).

    The Senate should appoint suitable citizens with some title as local contact points. The other citizens from the same contry should then contact this persons and create communities. 


    What do you think?

    Valete!


    Tiberius Iulius Nerva

    Quaestor
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94731 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-12
    Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
    Cn. Lentulus quaestor Ti. Iulio quaestori sal.

    Dear colleague, I agree with this. Of course, first we need the volunteers who would be willing to actively serve as contact point. I suggested this same thing in the past, and A. Vitellius Celsus was appointed as "Praefectus" of the NR Republic for Bulgaria just exactly to serve as this kind of contact point. I think his appointment should be renewed, he recruited many Nova Romans to create a province there, and probably soon they can form their official province, within 1-2 years, I think.

    In other countries this could be done as well. Such persons can be appointed by the consuls or praetors (they have overall imperium over Nova Roma and they can appoint assistant deputies everywhere) or they can be appointed by the senate. In any case, the correct term for such an appointed officer is PRAEFECTUS.

    Vale!
    Lentulus



    Da: "tiberius.iulius.nerva@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Salvete omnes!

    Nova Roma has some citizens in countries where we havent provinces (for example Bulgaria, Estonia, Iran, Indonesia, Australia and so on).
    The Senate should appoint suitable citizens with some title as local contact points. The other citizens from the same contry should then contact this persons and create communities. 

    What do you think?

    Valete!

    Tiberius Iulius Nerva
    Quaestor
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94732 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-13
    Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
    TM.Quadra Nerva Salutem plurimam dicit,
    I think it's a good idea, worth considering. Brings our world closer.
    Tiberius Marcius Quadra
     



    On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:54 AM, "'Cn. Cornelius Lentulus' cn_corn_lent@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Cn. Lentulus quaestor Ti. Iulio quaestori sal.

    Dear colleague, I agree with this. Of course, first we need the volunteers who would be willing to actively serve as contact point. I suggested this same thing in the past, and A. Vitellius Celsus was appointed as "Praefectus" of the NR Republic for Bulgaria just exactly to serve as this kind of contact point. I think his appointment should be renewed, he recruited many Nova Romans to create a province there, and probably soon they can form their official province, within 1-2 years, I think.

    In other countries this could be done as well. Such persons can be appointed by the consuls or praetors (they have overall imperium over Nova Roma and they can appoint assistant deputies everywhere) or they can be appointed by the senate. In any case, the correct term for such an appointed officer is PRAEFECTUS.

    Vale!
    Lentulus



    Da: "tiberius.iulius.nerva@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Salvete omnes!

    Nova Roma has some citizens in countries where we havent provinces (for example Bulgaria, Estonia, Iran, Indonesia, Australia and so on).
    The Senate should appoint suitable citizens with some title as local contact points. The other citizens from the same contry should then contact this persons and create communities. 

    What do you think?

    Valete!

    Tiberius Iulius Nerva
    Quaestor
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94733 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-01-13
    Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
    Salvete omnes!
    I think is a good idea because it signals organization and as Tiberius Marcius says bring our world closer and serves to get more citizens in those places where we have so little presence.
    Vale!
    Quintus Lutatius Catulus


    El Martes 13 de enero de 2015 10:16, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    TM.Quadra Nerva Salutem plurimam dicit,
    I think it's a good idea, worth considering. Brings our world closer.
    Tiberius Marcius Quadra
     



    On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:54 AM, "'Cn. Cornelius Lentulus' cn_corn_lent@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Cn. Lentulus quaestor Ti. Iulio quaestori sal.

    Dear colleague, I agree with this. Of course, first we need the volunteers who would be willing to actively serve as contact point. I suggested this same thing in the past, and A. Vitellius Celsus was appointed as "Praefectus" of the NR Republic for Bulgaria just exactly to serve as this kind of contact point. I think his appointment should be renewed, he recruited many Nova Romans to create a province there, and probably soon they can form their official province, within 1-2 years, I think.

    In other countries this could be done as well. Such persons can be appointed by the consuls or praetors (they have overall imperium over Nova Roma and they can appoint assistant deputies everywhere) or they can be appointed by the senate. In any case, the correct term for such an appointed officer is PRAEFECTUS.

    Vale!
    Lentulus



    Da: "tiberius.iulius.nerva@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Salvete omnes!

    Nova Roma has some citizens in countries where we havent provinces (for example Bulgaria, Estonia, Iran, Indonesia, Australia and so on).
    The Senate should appoint suitable citizens with some title as local contact points. The other citizens from the same contry should then contact this persons and create communities. 

    What do you think?

    Valete!

    Tiberius Iulius Nerva
    Quaestor
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94734 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2015-01-13
    Subject: Latin phrase of the day, Tuesday, 13 January 2015
    Attachments :
      "Latin phrase of the day" reminder
      When
      Tuesday, 13 January 2015
      11:00 PM to 12:00 AM
      (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
      Notes
      Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit - To boldly go where no man has gone before
      From
      Nova-Roma   Calendar
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94735 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-13
      Subject: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus in foro S.P.D.

      Ex Officio:

      I will summon the Senate soon and the main goal of the session will be to appoint the provincial governors. Therefore, I ask all current governors to respond directly to me to declare their desire to either remain governor or to retire from the position. Please respond to me by January 19, 2015.

      All current governors please also include a provincial report of the activities accomplished during the past year (or time tenured). A simple paragraph or two is sufficient. If there was no activity, please respond with a statement that there was no provincial activity. I expect to hear of little activity in most provinciae other than Central Europe and a few southern states in the USA. If you have any plans or ideas you think would be good to implement within your province, please include those as well. Please have these reports to me by January 19, 2015. 

      I am also issuing a call for governors for the following vacant provinciae:

      Europe:
      Thule - Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland

      Asia:
      Australia - Australia & New Zealand
      Guria - South Korea
      Nipponia - Japan

      Central America (MesoAmerica):
      Nova Hispania - Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica & Panama

      North America:
      America Cismississippiana - Illinois & Indiana
      America Gallica - Arkansas & Louisiana
      America Hispanica - New Mexico & Colorado
      America Mississippiensis - Mississippi & Alabama
      America Missuriensis - Iowa & Missouri
      America Montana - Montana & Wyoming
      America Nebrascensis - Nebraska & Kansas
      America Noveboracensis - New York & New Jersey
      America Oregonensis - Idaho, Oregon, & Washington
      America Transappalachiana - Tennessee & Kentucky
      California Franciscensis - California, north of Paso Robles and Delano
      Carolina - North Carolina & South Carolina
      Columbia - Maryland & District of Columbia
      Dacota - North Dakota & South Dakota
      Lacus Magni - Wisconsin & Michigan
      Mediatlantica - Pennsylvania & Delaware
      Minnesota - Minnesota
      Ohio - Ohio
      Virginia - Virginia

      Requirements:
      Please make sure you fulfill the requirements of the Lex Cornelia de cursu honorum before applying --- 


      Email me by January 19, 2015 if you are interested and meet the requirements for governor. 

      Bene valete!

      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Consul Novae Romae
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94736 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-14
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus sal.

      A provincial governor can appoint a praefectus for a region within his control - 
      • Praefectus regionis - The prefect of a geographic political district of a province, appointed by the governor to oversee and manage the day-to-day operations of the appointed regio. He is a member of the cohors praetoria and consilium provinciae and does not have imperium.
      The praefectus of an area without enough citizens to be organized should not have imperium and should report to a provincial official who has imperium and is trusted by the Senate. The Senate need not make the appointment directly but the Senate should be notified when a provincial governor appoints a praefectus regionis. Once there are enough citizens then the region can be organized into an appropriate civic unit, perhaps even elevating the region into a new province. In cases were the region that is being organized is not clearly within the boundaries of an existing province --- I am thinking of countries like Egypt, Israel, India, or China --- the Senate could either make a direct appointment or incorporate the region into an already existing province so a governor can oversee the praefectus and his or her management of the region until it is officially organized into a new province. The consules could provide additional oversight and assistance for the growth of the new region. 

      Bene valete!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
       
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94737 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-15
      Subject: Album Senatorium
      Salvete!

      An updated album senatorium can be found at http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Senate_membership_for_2768 - it includes the initials that should be used in the Tribune Reports of Senate sessions.

      Valete!

      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94738 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-15
      Subject: Unsolicited Favorable Omen
      Quadratus omnibus in foro s.p.d.

      An unsolicited favorable omen has just appeared in the form of a bright red cardinal that is now sitting amongst the birds of the templum.
      In four years of tending the birds, I have never seen a cardinal.  I hope it portends something favorable.  Offerings of thanks were made.

      Valete!
      Quadratus, Augur
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94739 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-15
      Subject: Re: Unsolicited Favorable Omen
      Salve Quadratus,
      Nice!
      I'd say the red cardinal is Mars' (my patron god) way of saying you're doing a good job in Nova Roma.
      Gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Thursday, January 15, 2015 10:53 PM, "charlesaronowitz@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Quadratus omnibus in foro s.p.d.

      An unsolicited favorable omen has just appeared in the form of a bright red cardinal that is now sitting amongst the birds of the templum.
      In four years of tending the birds, I have never seen a cardinal.  I hope it portends something favorable.  Offerings of thanks were made.

      Valete!
      Quadratus, Augur
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94740 From: Scipio Second Date: 2015-01-15
      Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      Ave Marcus Pompeius CaninusConsul Novae Romae
      Attached please find Governor's Annual Report from the Province of Texia, and the latest newsletter from the Province of Texia.
      Vale,
      Publius Quinctius Petrus AugustinusLegatus pro Propraetore, Province of Texia, Nova Roma

      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94742 From: scipiosecond Date: 2015-01-16
      Subject: Publicus Rhetor, Vol. II, Issue 1

      PUBLICUS RHETOR

             (Volume II, Issue 1, January 2015)   

      The Newsletter of the Province of Texia in Nova Roma[1]  

       Newsletter of  Nova Raska

        Nova Roma

      Nova Roma is an international organization dedicated to the study and restoration of ancient Roman culture.  From its founding until it ceased to be the center of Imperial authority, Rome laid the foundation for our modern Western civilization.  Founded 2,750 years after the Eternal City itself, Nova Roma seeks to bring back those golden times, not through the sword and the legions, however, but through the spread of knowledge and through our own virtuous example.

      ____________________________________________________

      Cicero’s Musings on War

      …  in the case of a state in its external relations, the rights of war must be strictly observed.  For since there are two ways of settling a dispute: first, by discussion; second, by physical force; and since the former is characteristic of man, the latter of the brute, we must resort to force only in case we may not avail ourselves of discussion.

      The only excuse, therefore, for going to war is that we may live in peace unharmed; and when the victory is won, we should spare those who have not been blood-thirsty and barbarous in their warfare…

      Not only must we show consideration for those whom we have conquered by force of arms but we must also ensure protection to those who lay down their arms and throw themselves upon the mercy of our generals, even though the battering ram has hammered at their walls.   And among our countrymen justice has been observed so conscientiously in this direction, that those who have given promise of protection to states or nations subdued in war become, after the custom of our forefathers, the patrons of those states.

      Source:  Cicero, De officiis. (Walter Miller, transl.; Loeb Classical Edition; Latin/English parallel text).    Harvard University Press, 1913.

      _____________________________________________________________________________

      Test Your Knowledge of Roman Military History

      The Battle of Carrhae was fought in 53 BC between the Parthian Empire and the Roman Republic near the town of Carrhae.  The Parthian Spahbod ("General") Surena decisively defeated a numerically superior Roman invasion force under the command of Marcus Licinius Crassus.  It is one of the earliest and most important battles between the Roman and Parthian empires and one of the most crushing defeats in Roman history.  This defeat led to the conventional knowledge that Roman legions were seldom if ever successful against the Parthians or Persians.  If this accurate?

      ______________________________________________________________________________

      Roman Provincial System

      The provincial system started when Rome expanded beyond the Italian boot. The first provinces, the Italic islands, were just beyond peninsular borders. Spain (Hispania) followed.  Rome sent magistrates to govern the provinces.  These were ex-consuls and ex-praetors known as proconsuls and propraetors, who went to their province after their year in office, with some support staff and soldiers to protect the province.  The provinces might supply Rome with food, money or bodies for the military. Predictably, corruption became an issue among the magistrates serving as provincial governors.

      The meaning of the term province changed over time.  It might mean a territory with an imperium-holding pro-magistrate in charge or an area over which Rome exerted military power, or a specific territory.

      The Roman provincial system lasted from about 210 BC, during the Punic Wars, to the fall of Rome, in A.D. 476.  Borders and names of provinces changed. It is customary to divide provincial history into an early period, ending with the Battle of Actium. This date corresponds with the end of the Republic, and the start of the Imperial period, under Rome's first emperor, Augustus. During the Republic, the provinces were either consular or praetorian [Johnson et al.] run by pro-magistrates with imperium. With the start of the principate, the provinces were divided into senatorial and imperial provinces, with the imperial under the control of magistrates appointed by the emperor.  Later divisions of the history of the provinces are disputed; however, the reign of Marcus Aurelius can be counted as the start of a new provincial era because of sustained conflict with the provinces, according to early twentieth century classical historians Arnold and Shuckburgh. Diocletian or Constantine mark another point of change in the Roman provincial system since it was at this time that the main government of Rome shifted eastward and the Empire was divided into different types of administrative districts.

      Source: N.S. Gill, “Main Roman Provinces,” www.ancienthistory.about.com. 

      ____________________________________________________________

      Answer to Test

      This Battle of Carrhae created the myth that Rome's legions could not combat the Parthian army.  This myth was not dispelled even when the Parthian capital was sacked several times and the several defeats that Roman armies inflicted on the Parthian army.

      During the Roman civil wars during the 1st Century BC, the Parthians actively supported Brutus and Cassius, and invaded Syria, and gained territories in the Levant.  However, the conclusion of the second Roman civil war saw a revival of Roman strength in Western Asia.

      In 113 AD, Emperor Trajan made eastern conquests and the defeat of Parthia a strategic priority.  Roman forces successfully overran Ctesiphon, the Parthian capital, and installed Parthamaspates as a client ruler of Parthia.  Emperor Hadrian reversed Trajan expansionist policies with the intention of reestablishing  the Euphrates River as the limit of Roman control.  In 161 AD, war over Armenia broke out when Vologases IV defeated the Romans there.  A Roman counter-attack under Statius Priscus defeated the Parthians in Armenia and installed a favored candidate on the Armenian throne, and an invasion of Mesopotamia culminated in the sack of Ctesiphon in 165 AD.

      In 195 AD, another Roman invasion of Mesopotamia began under the Emperor Septimius Severus.  Roman forces occupied Seleucia and Babylon, and then sacked Ctesiphon yet again in 197 AD.  Parthia ultimately fell not to the Romans, but to the Sassanids under Ardashir I, who entered Ctesiphon in 226 AD.  Under Ardashir and his successors, Persian-Roman conflict continued between the Sassanid Empire and Rome.

      Sources:  Plutarch, Life of Crassus; Goldsworthy, Adrian, The Roman Army at War 100 BC-200 AD; Dio, Cassius, Roman History: Book 40; Sampson, Gareth (2008), The Defeat of Rome in the East: Crassus, the Parthians, and the Disastrous battle of Carrhae, 53BC, Philadelphia, PA: Casemate; Sheldon, Rose Mary (2010), Rome's Wars in Parthia. London, UK: Vallentine Mitchell; Cowan, Ross (2009), "The Battle of Nisibis, AD 217", Ancient Warfare 3.5;  Bivar, H.D.H (1968), "The Political History of Iran under the Arsacids", The Cambridge History of Iran, New York, NY: Cambridge University Press; Campbell, Brian (2005), "The Severan Dynasty", The Cambridge Ancient History (XII, The Crisis of Empire, New York, NY: Cambridge University Press; Lightfoot, C.S. (1990). "Trajan's Parthian War and the Fourth-Century Perspective", The Journal of Roman Studies (Society for the Promotion of Roman Studies) 80.

      __________________________________________________________________

      Announcements

      Legio XIII Gemina (NR) has moved its headquarters from the Houston area to Central Texas, and is located near Fort Hood, Texas.  The legio is looking for new members.  Send enquiries to Legatus Legionis Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus at scipiosecond@....

      __________________________________________________________________

      Personal Note

           I wish to extend a personal invitation to all Nova Roma citizens residing in Province of Texia to contact me with comments or suggestions.  It is my hope that those citizens located in Texia will be more active than has been the case. If you are interested in being more active, please contact me.  I am particularly hopeful that 2015 will be the year in which a gathering of Nova Roma citizens will happen.  Let me know your thoughts. 

                                                                Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus

                                                                Legatus pro Praetore

                                                                Province of Texia, Nova Roma

       

      Senatus Populusque Romanus

       

                                            

       

       

       

       

       

                       

                               


       

      [1]              Publicus Rhetor is the unofficial newsletter of the Province of Texia (U.S. states of Texas and Oklahoma), a part of Nova Roma.
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94743 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-17
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
      I think this is a good idea. I would love to help out in my region (Australia) but I'm afraid I don't fulfill the requirements.


      On Wednesday, 14 January 2015, 19:26, "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus sal.

      A provincial governor can appoint a praefectus for a region within his control - 
      • Praefectus regionis - The prefect of a geographic political district of a province, appointed by the governor to oversee and manage the day-to-day operations of the appointed regio. He is a member of the cohors praetoria and consilium provinciae and does not have imperium.
      The praefectus of an area without enough citizens to be organized should not have imperium and should report to a provincial official who has imperium and is trusted by the Senate. The Senate need not make the appointment directly but the Senate should be notified when a provincial governor appoints a praefectus regionis. Once there are enough citizens then the region can be organized into an appropriate civic unit, perhaps even elevating the region into a new province. In cases were the region that is being organized is not clearly within the boundaries of an existing province --- I am thinking of countries like Egypt, Israel, India, or China --- the Senate could either make a direct appointment or incorporate the region into an already existing province so a governor can oversee the praefectus and his or her management of the region until it is officially organized into a new province. The consules could provide additional oversight and assistance for the growth of the new region. 

      Bene valete!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
       
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94744 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-17
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries

      Salve, Pavo!

       

      No, not yet, you haven’t been a citizen long enough, however, you will be qualified in time, and then you can seriously pursue this idea.  It would be an excellent way for you to get to know the other citizens in Australia.  We do have a few, I think.  However, there is nothing stopping any citizen from taking a look at the Album Civium, or from posting here and on the Forum Hospitum, asking to get in touch with citizens from a particular country, region, State or even city.  It would be entirely informal, but that’s perfectly OK, and you might get a group together to meet for dinner, or pizza and a movie, which could well be the start of getting your area’s citizens active and involved in a very tangible way.

       

      Vale et valete bene!

      C. Maria Caeca
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94745 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2015-01-17
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
       Salvete,
       
      I would have no issue being the contact in Hawaii; as far as I know I am the only citizen living on the fringes on the Empire but I hold out hope.
       
      Valete
       
      Titus Sicinius Lupus

      From: "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      I think this is a good idea. I would love to help out in my region (Australia) but I'm afraid I don't fulfill the requirements.


      On Wednesday, 14 January 2015, 19:26, "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus sal.

      A provincial governor can appoint a praefectus for a region within his control - 
      • Praefectus regionis - The prefect of a geographic political district of a province, appointed by the governor to oversee and manage the day-to-day operations of the appointed regio. He is a member of the cohors praetoria and consilium provinciae and does not have imperium.
      The praefectus of an area without enough citizens to be organized should not have imperium and should report to a provincial official who has imperium and is trusted by the Senate. The Senate need not make the appointment directly but the Senate should be notified when a provincial governor appoints a praefectus regionis. Once there are enough citizens then the region can be organized into an appropriate civic unit, perhaps even elevating the region into a new province. In cases were the region that is being organized is not clearly within the boundaries of an existing province --- I am thinking of countries like Egypt, Israel, India, or China --- the Senate could either make a direct appointment or incorporate the region into an already existing province so a governor can oversee the praefectus and his or her management of the region until it is officially organized into a new province. The consules could provide additional oversight and assistance for the growth of the new region. 

      Bene valete!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
       
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94746 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-17
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
      M. Pompeius Caninus propraetor provinciae Alascae et Havaiae T. Sicinio Lupo quiriti s.p.d.

      It is always good to hear your voice in the forum, Sicini Lupe! There are a few citizens in Hawaii, including Marcus Martianius Lupus, who is one of our new tribuni plebis. I hope we can arrange a provincial meeting in Hawaii later in the year. 

      Fac valeas!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      propraetor provinciae Alascae et Havaiae
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94747 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-17
      Subject: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 2015
      M. Pompeius Caninus omnibus in foro SPD.

      So...

      last minute thing as it appears I will actually have some time to do
      this...

      I hope a few of you can send in some entries. I will be doing a ritual
      at a cross road here in my neighborhood before the race.

      Sunday, January 18, is Compitalia. I will be sponsoring a chariot race
      to celebrate this festival. This will be a traditional quadriga chariot
      race.

      Anyone who wishes to participate in the chariot race must send an entry
      request to M. Pompeius Caninus at caninus@... before 9:00 PM Rome
      time (3:00 PM New York, 1:00 PM Mountain time, Noon Pacific time, 11:00
      AM Alaska, 10:00 AM Hawaii) on Sunday, January 18, 2015. Multiple
      entries are permitted - up to three per person. Each entry should bear
      the subject header "Chariot Race" and include the following information:
      1. Your name in Nova Roma
      2. The name of your chariot
      3. The name of your driver
      4. The tactic you intend to use for the Quarterfinals and Semifinals
      races
      5. The tactic you intend to use for the Final race.
      6. The name of your FACTIO or team: Russata, Albata, Veneta, Præsina

      Six (6) race tactics are possible:
      A. To hurry in the last laps
      B. To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus.
      C. To support a constant pace
      D. To lash the rivals
      E. To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
      F. To hurry in the straight lines

      Depending on the volume of entries, I may not be able to use all entries
      you submit so please list them in priority order - 1st choice, 2nd
      choice, 3rd choice - I will take all of the 1st choice entries, then see
      if there is room for 2nd choice, then see if there is room for 3rd
      choice.

      Send your entries to caninus@... and not to the public fora.

      Please feel free to add all the details you can about the background and
      description of your entries, especially the driver and the chariot
      itself - the more details I have, the better will the race accounts turn
      out to be. Dirty actions are NOT allowed.

      Bene valete!

      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Propraetor Alascae et Havaiae
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94748 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2015-01-17
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
      Sounds great.
       
      T.Sicinio Luupus

      From: "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      M. Pompeius Caninus propraetor provinciae Alascae et Havaiae T. Sicinio Lupo quiriti s.p.d.

      It is always good to hear your voice in the forum, Sicini Lupe! There are a few citizens in Hawaii, including Marcus Martianius Lupus, who is one of our new tribuni plebis. I hope we can arrange a provincial meeting in Hawaii later in the year. 

      Fac valeas!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      propraetor provinciae Alascae et Havaiae
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94749 From: decimuscurtius Date: 2015-01-18
      Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
      Salve,

      How does this work? How do I know what strategy to choose? What does the winner get?

      Vale,

      DC
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94750 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-18
      Subject: Re: Local contact points in countries
      Thank you for the encouraging message! :) The community here in Australia is widely spread out, though I hope more people in my state will join Nova Roma soon. There is an active wiccan circle here, so I'm hoping to attract new adherents of the Religio Romana!
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94751 From: Ugo Coppola Date: 2015-01-18
      Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201

      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94752 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-18
      Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
      Just send in the information requested in the announcement. 

      I take all of the entries, place them in random lanes then run a virtual race at the Circus Maximus. 

      The prize for the first place winner will be a coffee cup with the Ludi Compitaliciii 2768 banner.
       
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
       
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94753 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-18
      Subject: Re: Chariot races for Ludi Compitalicii 2768 auc - Sunday 18 Jan 201
      Caninus sal.

      Here is a link to last year's event:


       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
       
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94754 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-19
      Subject: EDICTUM CONSULARE MPC 68-01: De assignatione quaestorum
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul Quiritibus S.P.D.

      Ex Officio Consulis Novae Romae:

      EDICTUM CONSULARE MPC 68-01: De assignatione quaestorum

      CONSULAR EDICTUM MPC 68-01:  Assigment of the Quaestores

      1.  The five quaestores elected to serve Nova Roma for the year 2768 auc are assigned to serve magistrates as follows:

          a.    Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus is assigned as quaestor to Consul Marcus Pompeius Caninus.
          b.    Tiberius Iulius Nerva  is assigned as quaestor to Praetor Sextus Lucilius Tutor.
          c.    Gaius Claudius Quadratus is assigned as quaestor to Praetor Aulus Liburnius Hadrianus.
          d.    Gnaeus Rutilius Viminalis is assigned as quaestor to Aedilis Plebis Aulus Iulius Paterculus.
          e.    Tiberius Cassius Atellus is assigned as quaestor to Aedilis Plebis Gaia Maria Marcella.

      2.  This edictum shall take effect immediately.

      Given by my hand a.d. XIV Kal. Feb. M. Pompeio cos. sine collega MMDCCLXVIII a.u.c.

      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Consul
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94755 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2015-01-19
      Subject: The CP is called into session - January 2768 a.U.c

      SALVETE!


      The Collegium Pontificum is called into session starting with 08.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d XII Kal Febr. 2768 a.U.c (Wednesday 21 Jan 2015) until 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on pr Kal Febr 2768 a.U.c (Saturday, 31 Jan 2015).


      The session schedule is:


      Contio:

      Starts with 08.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d XII Kal Febr 2768 a.U.c (Wednesday 21 Jan 2015) until 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d VII Kal Febr 2768 a.U.c (Monday, 26 Jan 2015).


      Vote:

      Starts  with 08.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d V Kal Febr 2768 a.U.c (Wednesday 28 Jan 2015) and ends at 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d VII Kal Febr 2768 a.U.c (Saturday, 31 Jan 2015).


      QUOD BONUM FAUSTVM FELIX FORTUNATUMQUE SIT POPULO ROMANO QUIRITIBUS


      A. Items:


      1. The Collegium Pontificum analyze the tax payer status of the Nova Roma priesthood.

      2. The Collegium Pontificum analyze the appointment of Sacerdos Martialis C. Decius Laterensis as Flamen Martialis.


      B. The Collegium Pontificum members can add new matters to debate or items to vote during the contio but not later than 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d. VII Kal Febr 2768 a.U.c (Monday 26 Jan 2015).


      C. Proxy.

      A CP member who is unable to vote can give his proxy to another CP member during the contio.


      D. The Collegium Pontificum session can be observed by the entire Nova Roman community at this address:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/collegium_pontificum_nr/   


      VALETE,

      T. Iulius Sabinus

      Pontifex Maximus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94756 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-19
      Subject: Ludi Compitalicii 2768 Chariot Race Report
      Caninus omnibus in foro s.p.d.

      Yesterday was the Compitalia and we have a special report on the races that took place at the Circus Maximus from our reporter Titus Nautius Sura. 

      Salvete omnes! There was plenty of action yesterday at the track but the final race to determine the victor was exceptional. The seven finalists who participated in the final race were: Astianax, driving the chariot "Boihaemum", owned by Tiberius Iulius Nerva for Factio Russata in Lane 1; Iason, driving the chariot "Ulysses", owned by Marca Valeria Pavo for Factio Praesina in Lane 2; Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, driving his own chariot "Quicksilver", for Factio Russata in Lane 3; Barinthus, driving the chariot "Faolchú Dubh", owned by Marcus Martianius Lupus for Factio Veneta in Lane 4; Aurora, driving the chariot "Harbinger", owned by Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus for Factio Russata in Lane 5; Maleos of Alexandria, driving the chariot "White Lightning", owned by Gaius Decius Laterensis for Factio Albata in Lane 6; and, Ursinus, driving the chariot "Blue Max", owned by Marcus Martianius Lupus for Factio Veneta in Lane 7. 

      Thousands of spectators cheered with confetti in the colors of the four factions filling the air. The crowd was very lively and more than ready to crown a victor. So let's cut to the highlights and see how it turned out...

      The consul is preparing to start this final race!

      The quadrigae are in position in the carceres. The horses are bristling with anticipation. The team in lane 2 driven by Jason appear to be a bit skittish.   

      The trumpets sound! 

      From the magistrates box, Consul Caninus drops the mappa and they are off!

      Maleos and Jason take off leaving the others behind. Aurora is behind them but her position prevents Censor Placidus from being able to pass! Astianax is pushing Barinthus into the spina as they go around the meta! Astianax handles the turn well! Maleos and Jason thunder towards the second lap! Aurora is now focused on the other quadrigae, and Astianax, biding his time, trailing at a steady pace!

      The dolphin turns in the second lap, it's Maleos 1st, Jason 2nd, Aurora 3rd and Astianax 4th! There is a fast run down the straightway with all quadrigae maintaining their place! Whoaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! Ursinus has come up wide around the metae and charges into the lead! He has centered himself in the track strategically! Jason thunders forward and positions himself near the spina but not passing the Ursinus! It is Ursinus in the lead position, with Jason on the inside in second, almost flanked by Aurora in 3rd with Maleos on the inside in 4th as they head down the stretch. Placidus lashes Astianax! Placidus gets too close, slips and recovers his balance holding onto his chariot's top rail as his horses demonstrate their excellent training. 

      The crowd is cheering and jeering, there is fighting in the stands and in the cavae between Russata fans of both men.

      Maleos moves ahead of the Aurora! Maleos prevents her from passing him as they turn the curve into the 3rd lap! 

      It's Jason in first but Ursinus is almost neck in neck in 2nd , Maleos is two lengths behind in 3rd and  Aurora, Barinthus, Placidus and Jason are fighting for position in the trailing pack! Maleos passes the Ursinus! Charging ahead is Aurora lashing at Ursinus! Ursinus lashes back and urges his horses forward! And Ursinus has passed Jason! Jason gains the lead once again and is near the spina! What is this? Aurora has lashed her way past a wounded Maleos! Folks - blood is wetting the sand! Jason and Aurora are once again exchanging lashes! Aurora moves into first place! Her horses sport a rich lather.

      More fighting breaks out in the stands, the roar is deafening, the soldiers rush into the stands and the cavae to prevent injury.

      Aurora enters the 4th lap in first place, closely followed by Jason in 2nd, Ursinus in 3rd, a wounded Maleos in 4th, Placidus in 5th, Astianax in 6th and Barinthus last. Jason makes his move along the spina! Aurora Is not having it! Jason sends a flurry of lashes against Aurora! Aurora is returning them with enraged shouts! And Maleos has just lashed passed Ursinus! He appears focused! The dust of the track makes it hard to see who is in the lead! But Jason surges forward and has regained position near the spina as they pass the meta for the final time. Jason and Maleos charge down the track neck in neck to the finish line! Aurora and Ursinus are not far behind! It looks like a dead heat for first place as Maleos and Jason cross the finish line!"

      Spectators rush out of the stands! Minutes pass...

      Citizens! I have the official decision!
      In 7th place, Astianax, driving Boihaemum, owned by Tiberius Iulius Nerva for Russata.
      In 6th place, Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, driving his own chariot Quicksilver for Russata.
      In 5th place, Barinthus, driving Faolchú Dubh, owned by Marcus Martianius Lupus for Veneta.
      In 4th place, Ursinus, driving Blue Max, owned by PMarcus Martianius Lupus for Veneta.
      In 3rd place, Aurora, driving Harbinger, owned by Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, for Russata.
      In 2nd place, by a fraction of a length, Jason, driving Ulysses, owned by Marca Valeria Pavo for Praesina.

      Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Maleos of Alexandria, driving White Lightning, owned by Gaius Decius Laterensis for Russata, winner of the 2768 auc Ludi Compitalicii Circenses!

      What a Race! Be careful leaving the Circus, get out safe because there are many parties and feasts all over town this night! And, please, be responsible, do not drink and drive. 

      This is Titus Nautius Sura, and on behalf of Nova Roma Broadcasting, I bid you all good night!

      Facite valeatis!

      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94757 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-20
      Subject: Re: Ludi Compitalicii 2768 Chariot Race Report
      Omnibus in foro s.p.d.,

      Congratulations team Russata!

      No hard feelings to G. Decius Laterensis on account of my driver's bad behavior.

      Gratias tibi ago, Canine, for the report.
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94758 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-20
      Subject: Compitalia 2768 auc on the wiki
      M. Pompeius Caninus sal.

      The Compitalia page for 2768 a.u.c. has been added to the wiki at http://novaroma.org/nr/Ludi_Compitalicii_2768_AUC_(Nova_Roma) 

      Facite valeatis!

      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94759 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2015-01-20
      Subject: Re: Ludi Compitalicii 2768 Chariot Race Report
      No hard feelings, indeed.  Maleos' injuries weren't severe, and my personal medicus is tending to him.  The important thing is the final result, and he was able to deliver.  There was an error in the report, though, as my chariot didn't run for Russata.  Maleos and White Lightning run for Albata.  Sorry, Russata fans, better luck next time!  Anyway, we're having a party over in the Albata pavilion, and everyone's invited.  Everybody drink up!  We're having the finest wine I could get at a good price!

      C. Decius Laterensis


      On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:07 AM, "valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Omnibus in foro s.p.d.,

      Congratulations team Russata!

      No hard feelings to G. Decius Laterensis on account of my driver's bad behavior.

      Gratias tibi ago, Canine, for the report.
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94760 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-21
      Subject: Experiences with the Gods
      Pavo C. Mariae Caecae s.p.d. 

      I hope you are well. I have recently had a few experiences while exploring the cultus deorum, and I thought I would share them with you because you are the current Virgo Vestalis Maxima. I've been trying to post these experiences to the Religio Romana group, but my messages aren't getting through.

      I started off doing libations outdoors, just pouring some homemade wine into the soil after saying some ritual prayers. Recently I've gotten more serious, and I set up my own lararium, with candles, the different pieces of equipment, and I have been offering salt, wine, and biscuits. Also I left a flower on the lararium today. The thing is, yesterday I asked the gods that I am specially devoted to (Minerva Sospita, Jane Pater, Juno Sospita, Diana Nemorensis, and Vesta Mater) to give me a sign that they were listening. As I understand it, the Romans regularly 'negotiated' with their gods, and I wanted to try and see if they would respond. The sign I asked for was that the next day, when I was praying, one of my candles would blow out. This is indoors, on a shelf, with no wind, so I thought it wouldn't be possible.

      Strangely, they did! Today, when I was lighting the candles and after having said the rite of purification and wrapped myself in my scarf, one of the candles fizzled. I thought it was a bad omen and that the gods didn't want to accept my prayers at this time, but then it dawned on me. The candle seemed to fizzle for a long time; as I have said, there was no reason whatsoever for it to fizzle at all. When I took a break, washed my hands, and came back to start over, there were no problems at all.

      I'm not sure how to interpret this. In modern times, it could be a huge coincidence, but I feel that there must be some force out there who is listening. If you have any worship tips, do let me know. I'm trying to get figurines so I can adorn them. I think Juno Sospita in particular would enjoy this.

      Also, what are some omens I should watch out for?

      Valete optime,
      M. Valeria Pavo
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94761 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-21
      Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
      Salve, M. Valeria Pavo


      As far as having experiences with the Gods, this past summer I did a ritual petitioning Mercurius in financial matters and not long after, I landed 2 new jobs.


      Valete bene,
      Sex.Laelia Macra

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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94762 From: valeriapavo Date: 2015-01-22
      Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
      Salve Macra,

      Could you please elaborate a bit more on this ritual? It seems to have been super effective, and as I am still learning about the religio Romana, it would be really helpful to have a full description of how you managed to convince Mercurius so.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94763 From: MajikPiG Date: 2015-01-22
      Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
      Salvete.

      Dominus Mercurius has also been exceptionally kind to me, as has Domina Fortuna. I have been dealing with them, and giving them offerings, alongside my family's northern gods, my ancestors, and my spirit guides. Lord Mercury has brought the muses to me several times to help me in matters of communication and writing, as well as helping me bring orders to my jewelry business. I keep drawings of My Lord Mercury and My Lady Fortuna on my altar, and offerings of gold, silver, incense, and alcohol, as well as, and I hope this neither offends nor disgusts anybody, the occasional offering of my own blood, have been well received, and, I dare say, My Lord Mercury seems to be accepting of my gifts even though the Whisky I usually offer is certainly not of Roman origin.

      I hope my mixing of pantheons does not offend anyone either, as I know that some claim this is an act one should never do, though the gods themselves appear to be accepting. I think it natural that, descended from Picts (the Veneti), Scots, Gauls, and Germans, as well as Roman citizens within those lands, that I would pay tribute to the gods of Caledonia and Gaul as well as those of Rome, and my training as a chaplain asks that I learn the customs of many traditions so that I am able to provide comfort and services to people from many different backgrounds.

      Nor do I usually perform my rites in Latin, though I do have praises to My Lord Mercury and My Lady Fortuna in Latin that I occasionally use when addressing them directly and praises for My Lord Mercury in his form as My Lord Hermes written in Greek. I have read that the gods prefer to be addressed in the language with which they have become most familiar, but I think it important to remember that My Lord Mercury is a master of languages and able to understand all human language.

      I think the sign of the candle is certainly a sign that the gods are listening. I would that you might continue your communication with them and enlighten us on any other responses you have seen. However, I would caution you against continually pressing the gods for signs. I have not know them to be in direct conflict with an individual for a small slight, but, certainly, they can withdraw their favor from you if they tire of you, and your pleading will go unheard.

      Valete.
      L. Marius Vestinus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94764 From: tiberiusiuliusnerva Date: 2015-01-22
      Subject: Meeting in Prague

      Salvete omnes!


      We had a small meeting in Prague yesterday. Three citizens of Nova Roma - Civitas Boihaemum (me, Tutor and Lupus) and one guest - legionary (Legio X Gemina Pia Fidelis).


      In my opinion its a good start for us. I hope that similar events and maybe new ones will follows.


      Vale!


      Tiberius Iulius Nerva

      Quaestor

      Praefectus Civitatis Boihaemi
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94765 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-22
      Subject: Re: Meeting in Prague
      Ave! 

      Sounds like a great evening, Amice.  I hope this will continue throughout the year. :)

      Vale,

      Sulla
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94766 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-22
      Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
      Salve Pavo,

      Sure! I did this last summer so hopefully I can remember it. First I washed my hands and offered myrrh incense and some coins to Mercurius and let it burned. I asked for what I wanted and stated what I would offer in return for his help. Next I went outside and buried the coins, poured a libation on the spot then ended it with a prayer. I don't believe this is a common ritual (or it could be) but it worked well for me. I also did it twice but on different days. So I hope this helps if you need Mercurius' help with anything regarding commerce, finance, travel or alchemy.

      Valete bene
      S. L. Macra



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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94767 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-22
      Subject: Re: Experiences with the Gods
      Salve, Vestinus

      I am at least not disgusted by an occasional offering of blood, nor the mixing of the pantheons. Whisky is an interesting choice to offer, I usually stick with red wine but maybe I should try offering my brandy and bourbon to see how they like it. When Gaul became a province they actually had a temple dedicated to Mercurius whom they associated with a rooster which is why the rooster is a symbol of France today so even the Gallic Celts eventually worshiped the Roman Gods as well. I've heard that too, that the Gods prefer prayers to be in their own native tongue so every morning I light an incense and say a prayer to Mars in Latin but as Mercurius is a master of all things, I'm just as comfortable speaking to him in English.

      Vale bene
      S. L. Macra



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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94768 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: The CP is called into session - January 2768 a.U.c - extended.
      SALVETE!

      The current session is extended until a date which will be proper communicated. It is extended in February, including the CP schedule of activities of that month.

      VALETE,
      Sabinus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94769 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus in foro S.P.D.

      Nova Roma has 44 provinciae with 18 sitting governors. I have heard from seven governors that they wish to continue serving during 2768 auc. Additionally, one citizen has requested a prior service exemption so he could step up as a governor in a currently vacant province. Another citizen has asked if he can serve as a legate or scriba in his province since he does not meet the qualifications for governor. 

      All governors:
      Check the list of provincial governors at Governors for 2768 AUC and, if you have not done so already, let me know whether or not you wish to continue serving as governor. Governors who have already contacted me have a Yes in the Continue? column.

      Finally, any governor who has moved or relocated to a different province in the past 12 months must contact me.

      Facite valeatis!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Consul
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94770 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Diglot book in Latin & English
      Salvete,
      I'm looking for a book that has both Latin & English for each sentence throughout the book. For example:
      Salve omnes!
      Hello everyone!

      I found one book on Amazon but it is only in Kindle. Does anyone know of such a book (typically called a "diglot")?
      Gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94771 From: robert574674 Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      Salvete omnes!

      I have been asking if anyone would like to assist in the work of running the Province, but as there have been no takers, I request that I continue as Governor for the coming year. I have paid my taxes at the prescribed amount.


      Valete omnes

      Crispus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94772 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      Salve, Consul!

      I wish to be considered for the position of governor of the province of Canada Citerior.  I reside in the province and meet all of the statutory requirements.  During the past two years I have initiated some activity within the province (contests, meetings, seminars, etc.) and would like to increase the level of in-person activity and, hopefully, encourage others to become citizens.  I have office space and a conference room near downtown Montreal available for our use.

      Vale!
      C Claudius Quadratus

      To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:16:11 -0700
      Subject: [Nova-Roma] RE: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors

       

      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus in foro S.P.D.

      Nova Roma has 44 provinciae with 18 sitting governors. I have heard from seven governors that they wish to continue serving during 2768 auc. Additionally, one citizen has requested a prior service exemption so he could step up as a governor in a currently vacant province. Another citizen has asked if he can serve as a legate or scriba in his province since he does not meet the qualifications for governor. 

      All governors:
      Check the list of provincial governors at Governors for 2768 AUC and, if you have not done so already, let me know whether or not you wish to continue serving as governor. Governors who have already contacted me have a Yes in the Continue? column.

      Finally, any governor who has moved or relocated to a different province in the past 12 months must contact me.

      Facite valeatis!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Consul
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94773 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      Salve Omnes,

      While I can't run for governor, I'd like to be a scribe if any of them needs one.

      Valete bene,
      Sex. Laelia Macra



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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94774 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      A. Tullia Scholastica Ti. Marcio Quadrae omnibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

       

      Salvete,
      I'm looking for a book that has both Latin & English for each sentence throughout the book. For example:
      Salve omnes!
      Hello everyone!

      I found one book on Amazon but it is only in Kindle. Does anyone know of such a book (typically called a "diglot")?

      As far as I am aware, these are typically referred to as 'interlinear [bilingual] texts.'  I have never seen or heard the [Greek-derived] term 'diglots' for such texts.  The well-known Loeb Classical Library has texts with Latin on one page and English on the facing page, and there are interlinear texts of Caesar and Cicero, possibly of other commonly-read texts such as Vergil's Aeneid.  Generally the interlinear translations are intended only for high schoolers who have trouble understanding even heavily-annotated texts, and are not exactly held in high regard.  That may be one of the reasons why you are having trouble locating any; another is that Latin is taught less frequently, so there isn't much of any need for interlinear texts.  


      Gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra

      Valé(te)!
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94775 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English

      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.

      Vale,

      Sulla
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94776 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94777 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: presentation of a new citizen
        Salvete,

      i am Lucius Valerius Aquila (Citizen ID 15271) from the province of Gallia ..... i work with diamonds and antique coins. i hope to win the opportunity to be useful for my fellow citizens in a near future.

      Valete

      Lucius
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94778 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen

      Salve Aquila!

       

      (hope I did that right, and that the cognomen here is neuter and not  feminine)  Welcome to this list, and most welcome to Nova Roma!  If you haven’t done so already, you may want to prowl around on our web site for a nice, leisurely time .. there are treasures, there, but might I suggest you carry a ball of yarn with you so that you can find your way *out* of that maze?  I once got lost in the WIKI for 3 months, LOL!  Seriously, there is a lot to see on the WIKI, and it will give you a good idea of how things work, here.

       

      I hope that you find your time with us interesting, enjoyable, and informative, and I hope you will stay and, when you are ready, become an active citizen.

       

      Again, welcome to Nova Roma!  BTW, for those cives living in the Northeast USA, you are about to get quite a storm, so be prepared, and stay safe and warm, please!

       

      Vale et valete!

      C. Maria Caeca
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94779 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve, Aquila

      Welcome! You don't have to "win" the opportunity, we're all useful! So you work with diamonds? What do you do with them? Do you have any particular fields of interest when it comes to Roma?

      Vale bene,
      Sex. Laelia Macra



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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94780 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Antique coins and militari organisations are my two main Fields of intérêts about antique Roma .... thé religion In third place.... antique jewelry in fourth


      On Monday, January 26, 2015 9:40 PM, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve, Aquila

      Welcome! You don't have to "win" the opportunity, we're all useful! So you work with diamonds? What do you do with them? Do you have any particular fields of interest when it comes to Roma?

      Vale bene,
      Sex. Laelia Macra


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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94781 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve, Aquila!

      Hello from Montreal in the province of Canada Citerior.  I am also interested in Roman coins.  Do you have a collection? 

      Vale!
      C Claudius Quadratus

      To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:00:10 +0000
      Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] presentation of a new citizen

       

      Antique coins and militari organisations are my two main Fields of intérêts about antique Roma .... thé religion In third place.... antique jewelry in fourth


      On Monday, January 26, 2015 9:40 PM, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve, Aquila

      Welcome! You don't have to "win" the opportunity, we're all useful! So you work with diamonds? What do you do with them? Do you have any particular fields of interest when it comes to Roma?

      Vale bene,
      Sex. Laelia Macra


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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94782 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve Quadratus,

      I have spent last Winter in Montréal, i love thé city ......and yes i have a collection of roman coins, including 2 quinarius ... (rare small silver coin worth 5 asses or 2 sesterces)

      Vale


      On Monday, January 26, 2015 10:17 PM, "charlesaronowitz@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Salve, Aquila!

      Hello from Montreal in the province of Canada Citerior.  I am also interested in Roman coins.  Do you have a collection? 

      Vale!
      C Claudius Quadratus

      To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:00:10 +0000
      Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] presentation of a new citizen

       

      Antique coins and militari organisations are my two main Fields of intérêts about antique Roma .... thé religion In third place.... antique jewelry in fourth


      On Monday, January 26, 2015 9:40 PM, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve, Aquila

      Welcome! You don't have to "win" the opportunity, we're all useful! So you work with diamonds? What do you do with them? Do you have any particular fields of interest when it comes to Roma?

      Vale bene,
      Sex. Laelia Macra


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      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94783 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve, Aquila!

      It's too bad you were not a citizen last year.  I led a small seminar at Concordia Univ., on the subject "An Introduction to Roman Coins."  There are several collectors here.  The silver quinarius is much scarcer than its relative, the denarius.  Scarcer still is the silver sestertius.

      Vale!
      Quadratus



      To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:35:36 +0000
      Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] presentation of a new citizen

       

      Salve Quadratus,

      I have spent last Winter in Montréal, i love thé city ......and yes i have a collection of roman coins, including 2 quinarius ... (rare small silver coin worth 5 asses or 2 sesterces)

      Vale


      On Monday, January 26, 2015 10:17 PM, "charlesaronowitz@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Salve, Aquila!

      Hello from Montreal in the province of Canada Citerior.  I am also interested in Roman coins.  Do you have a collection? 

      Vale!
      C Claudius Quadratus

      To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:00:10 +0000
      Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] presentation of a new citizen

       

      Antique coins and militari organisations are my two main Fields of intérêts about antique Roma .... thé religion In third place.... antique jewelry in fourth


      On Monday, January 26, 2015 9:40 PM, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve, Aquila

      Welcome! You don't have to "win" the opportunity, we're all useful! So you work with diamonds? What do you do with them? Do you have any particular fields of interest when it comes to Roma?

      Vale bene,
      Sex. Laelia Macra


      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94784 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-26
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve, Aquila


      Antique jewelry, nice! Any parts of the military in particular? I'm most interested in their navy and how they dealt with pirates and the role of the Equites.

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94785 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve, Aquila!

      How are you doing? In Latin that would be Quid agis, and in French - comment ça va! I'm a French speaker living in Australia and I recently joined Nova Roma as well. I know it's quite intimidating as lots of phrases are in Latin, but I'm sure you'll pick it up really fast. Everyone here is very helpful as well, and feel free to write to me in French if there's anything untranslatable that needs to be said.

      It's amazing that you work with diamonds and metals - these were trades practised by the Romans as well, and the products were highly prized throughout all ages. I hope that you can share your expertise with us sometime, and that you'll continue participating in our friendly international community. Aquila is a powerful cognomen - the 'eagle' - and if you are interested in religion there's another Yahoo group - Religio Romana - that you can join. M. Caeca, who wrote to you first I believe, is like a mother hen to us and I'm sure she can answer any advanced questions you have. :)

      Valete optime,
      Pavo


      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 10:12, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve, Aquila

      Antique jewelry, nice! Any parts of the military in particular? I'm most interested in their navy and how they dealt with pirates and the role of the Equites.

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94786 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve Quadratus.

      the gold quinarius is the scarcest roman coin..... with rare coins which Worth several aureus.

      Vale


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:12 AM, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve, Aquila

      Antique jewelry, nice! Any parts of the military in particular? I'm most interested in their navy and how they dealt with pirates and the role of the Equites.

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94787 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve Laelia Macra,

      i am interested in antique jewelry, because it s my job in our period ..... about militari, i am interested in theirs abilities to build camps .... and theirs weapons.

      about coins; i am interested in the ability to cope with inflation .... and about religion, all the aspects

      Vale


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:37 AM, Michael J.P. Laurent <lucius.valeriusaquila@...  

      Salve, Aquila

      Antique jewelry, nice! Any parts of the military in particular? I'm most interested in their navy and how they dealt with pirates and the role of the Equites.

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94788 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94789 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94790 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      Salve Quadra,

      Just another suggestion for your Latin learning. I have found Orberg's Lingua Latina to be the best method so far, especially for dedicated and advanced learners like yourself. I use it with my tutor, and have learned 5 declensions in 5 weeks. I am also reading parts of the bible now. Getting yourself a usable dictionary - I recommend Cassell - and working through a Latin reader is another good way to improve.

      As for the recommendations, nihil est.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo


      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 20:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94791 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      TM.Quadra Aquila salutem plurimam dicit omnes in forum,
      Welcome to Nova Roma, Lucius Valerius Aquil!
      Ooo, I love diamond, gold, silver, and always use those precious nouns when describing a good life.
      Do you have an online business in diamonds & antique coins?
      What do you think of small diamonds, like on a Rolex watch?
      Nice to meet you, and maybe you can make jewelery for me (us) and or give me (us) some pointers to make my (our) own gold rings etc.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:43 PM, "'Michael J.P. Laurent' lucius.valeriusaquila@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Salve Laelia Macra,

      i am interested in antique jewelry, because it s my job in our period ..... about militari, i am interested in theirs abilities to build camps .... and theirs weapons.

      about coins; i am interested in the ability to cope with inflation .... and about religion, all the aspects

      Vale


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:37 AM, Michael J.P. Laurent <lucius.valeriusaquila@...  

      Salve, Aquila

      Antique jewelry, nice! Any parts of the military in particular? I'm most interested in their navy and how they dealt with pirates and the role of the Equites.

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94792 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      SALVETE
      Aquila,This is my favorite ring. It used to be for my pinky, but I resized it up to 13 and wear it on my index finger now. That's 20 diamonds, gold, onyx, with silver rim-bedding holding the diamonds.
      What do you think?Tiberius Marcius Quadra
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94793 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve, Aquila


      Well their design of jewelry was very different from ours now, the only references I've seen for Roman jewelry all comes from period shows I'm afraid. Ahh their camps and forts were the beginning of towns. It is an interesting subject as well as their short gladius swords. I don't know much about their coinage but I know one of the Emperors put a tight regulation on prices for food & other items and if any merchant charged more or less than the regulated price faced severe consequences. I don't remember which Emperor did that but he did it as a way to deal with inflation, all though their welfare programs were partly the problem. As for religion, Lupercalia is coming up next month!

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra


      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94794 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Quintus Lutatius Catulus Aquila salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro
      Welcome Lucius Valerius. I think the emperor that modifies prices is Domitianus. Then, Marcus Aurelius need to devalue the currency, as will be done later by Diocletianus. Finally, in the fourth century, the emperor Constantinus reformed the currency, creating the solidus aureus or nomisma. Yes, next month we celebrate the Lupercalia and remember that we also celebrate the Parentalia.
      Curate ut valeatis!
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94795 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Quadratus Macrae s.p.d!

      I believe you may be referring to the edict of Diocletian in 301, setting maximum prices for various goods and services.  It did not have the desired effect.

      Vale!
      Quadratus

      To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
      From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:49:15 -0800
      Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] presentation of a new citizen

       

      Salve, Aquila

      Well their design of jewelry was very different from ours now, the only references I've seen for Roman jewelry all comes from period shows I'm afraid. Ahh their camps and forts were the beginning of towns. It is an interesting subject as well as their short gladius swords. I don't know much about their coinage but I know one of the Emperors put a tight regulation on prices for food & other items and if any merchant charged more or less than the regulated price faced severe consequences. I don't remember which Emperor did that but he did it as a way to deal with inflation, all though their welfare programs were partly the problem. As for religion, Lupercalia is coming up next month!

      Vale bene,
      S. L. Macra

      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94796 From: alicia mann Date: 2015-01-27
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salve Quadratus

      It might've been Diocletian, I don't remember. I imagine it didn't have the desired effect!

      Vale,
      Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94797 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-01-28
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      A. Tullia Scholastica M. Valeriae Pavoni Ti. Marcio Quadrae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

       

      Salve Quadra,

      Just another suggestion for your Latin learning. I have found Orberg's Lingua Latina to be the best method so far, especially for dedicated and advanced learners like yourself. I use it with my tutor, and have learned 5 declensions in 5 weeks. I am also reading parts of the bible now. Getting yourself a usable dictionary - I recommend Cassell - and working through a Latin reader is another good way to improve.

      Ørberg (there is a diacritic on the initial O, which may be rendered as Oe) is a very good text, used by many Latinists.  I student-taught seventh grade Latin from it before it had audio discs or any form of modern vocabulary; apparently those have been added since then.  I know that the audios have been.  Both should be advantageous.  

      In our Latin schola, we use Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine, which not only has modern vocabulary included with the text and accompanying audios, including songs, but also provides grammar along with conversations and excerpts from ancient authors.  This is an assimilation method, and very effective in producing fluency in Latin.  The text is available in Latin / French (barely, as it was taken out of print some years ago and replaced by another text), Latin / Italian [il Latino senza Sforzo] and Latin / German [Latein Ohne Mühe], which is the most recent and the most carefully edited of the lot.  We provide translations into Spanish and English for our students in case they do not know any of these common languages although one must be able to read at least one of them in order to get a master's degree in most academic fields, and two are required for a doctorate.  The translations are not otherwise available.  

      As for dictionaries, we recommend the Collins Gem dictionary; Cassell's is reasonably good, as far as I am concerned, but the little Collins has paradigms, calendar and coin information, a stemma, and many other bits of information useful to anyone interested in Roman civilization.  When one obtains some fluency in Latin, one should head for the Oxford Latin Dictionary, but that is not something a beginner needs.  I believe that there is an abridged version, however, which might even be better than Cassell.  

      Quadra, most Latin authors are available in the Loeb texts, with translations on the facing pages (not interleaved).  I suspect that Catullus is among them.  However, Catullus wrote poetry, and poetry is MUCH more difficult to understand or translate than is prose.  The requirements of Latin metrics, in which the length of a syllable, not its stress accent, determined meter, had some interesting effects on grammar and vocabulary.  You would be better off with the likes of Caesar--AFTER you learn his favorite vocabulary and grammar, including the ablative absolute and oratio obliqua, also known as indirect statement or infinitive clauses.  Those are (or were) taught in HS Latin II, and are presented at the beginning of the intermediate traditional-method  Latin course I teach.    


      As for the recommendations, nihil est.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo

      Valete.  



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 20:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      On Jan 26, 2015 7:26 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com








      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94798 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-28
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Avete sodales omnes,
       if you want to read the full text  of the edict of Diocletian
        Facite ut valeatis
        Nasica


      Il Mercoledì 28 Gennaio 2015 3:08, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve Quadratus

      It might've been Diocletian, I don't remember. I imagine it didn't have the desired effect!

      Vale,
      Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94799 From: Michael J.P. Laurent Date: 2015-01-28
      Subject: Re: presentation of a new citizen
      Salvete

      During the republic, the roman monetary system has been very strong .... thé silver denarii were a strong currency

      Valete


      On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:04 AM, "Filippo Zizzo kanjinogo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Avete sodales omnes,
       if you want to read the full text  of the edict of Diocletian
        Facite ut valeatis
        Nasica


      Il Mercoledì 28 Gennaio 2015 3:08, "alicia mann xai776@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

      Salve Quadratus

      It might've been Diocletian, I don't remember. I imagine it didn't have the desired effect!

      Vale,
      Macra
      ------------------------------
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94800 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      TM.Quadra Scholoasticae Pavoni quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit,
      Could you translate with interleaved:
      quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit

      _____________________________________
      My guess is: I say many good greetings, saluting my fellow Romans.

      Gratias tibi ago for these reference leads:
      Orberg's Lingua Latina
      Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine
      Collins Gem dictionary
      Oxford Latin Dictionary
      Loeb texts

      I just bought the Diglot bible, and Wheelock's Latin Reader 2e.
      I'm starting to build quite a Latin library; I'll inventory it soon.

      If anyone wants a particular verse(s) from the interleaved Diglot bible, let me know. 

      Cum tutela Martum et vir summi ingeni, (did I say it correct?)
      With Mars' protection and man's highest talents, (did I translate it correct?)
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra



      On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:37 PM, "' A. Tullia Scholastica' fororom@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      A. Tullia Scholastica M. Valeriae Pavoni Ti. Marcio Quadrae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

       
      Salve Quadra,

      Just another suggestion for your Latin learning. I have found Orberg's Lingua Latina to be the best method so far, especially for dedicated and advanced learners like yourself. I use it with my tutor, and have learned 5 declensions in 5 weeks. I am also reading parts of the bible now. Getting yourself a usable dictionary - I recommend Cassell - and working through a Latin reader is another good way to improve.

      Ørberg (there is a diacritic on the initial O, which may be rendered as Oe) is a very good text, used by many Latinists.  I student-taught seventh grade Latin from it before it had audio discs or any form of modern vocabulary; apparently those have been added since then.  I know that the audios have been.  Both should be advantageous.  

      In our Latin schola, we use Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine, which not only has modern vocabulary included with the text and accompanying audios, including songs, but also provides grammar along with conversations and excerpts from ancient authors.  This is an assimilation method, and very effective in producing fluency in Latin.  The text is available in Latin / French (barely, as it was taken out of print some years ago and replaced by another text), Latin / Italian [il Latino senza Sforzo] and Latin / German [Latein Ohne Mühe], which is the most recent and the most carefully edited of the lot.  We provide translations into Spanish and English for our students in case they do not know any of these common languages although one must be able to read at least one of them in order to get a master's degree in most academic fields, and two are required for a doctorate.  The translations are not otherwise available.  

      As for dictionaries, we recommend the Collins Gem dictionary; Cassell's is reasonably good, as far as I am concerned, but the little Collins has paradigms, calendar and coin information, a stemma, and many other bits of information useful to anyone interested in Roman civilization.  When one obtains some fluency in Latin, one should head for the Oxford Latin Dictionary, but that is not something a beginner needs.  I believe that there is an abridged version, however, which might even be better than Cassell.  

      Quadra, most Latin authors are available in the Loeb texts, with translations on the facing pages (not interleaved).  I suspect that Catullus is among them.  However, Catullus wrote poetry, and poetry is MUCH more difficult to understand or translate than is prose.  The requirements of Latin metrics, in which the length of a syllable, not its stress accent, determined meter, had some interesting effects on grammar and vocabulary.  You would be better off with the likes of Caesar--AFTER you learn his favorite vocabulary and grammar, including the ablative absolute and oratio obliqua, also known as indirect statement or infinitive clauses.  Those are (or were) taught in HS Latin II, and are presented at the beginning of the intermediate traditional-method  Latin course I teach.    


      As for the recommendations, nihil est.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo

      Valete.  



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 20:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      On Jan 26, 2015 7:26 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com










      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94801 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Colleen McCullough dies
      Omnibus in Foro S. P. D.

      It is with sadness that I must tell you that the author Colleen McCullough,
      who created the extremely popular and acclaimed Masters of Rome series, died
      today. For some of us, her Masters of Rome series was the gateway through
      which we entered the world of ancient Rome, and chose to stay and learn
      about its history, people and culture. I know several citizens who are here
      because they were drawn by her very excellent books. Therefore, I honor
      this fine author as a kind of friend to our Res Publica, whether she knew
      that or not, but more, I honor her as a fine writer, and a voice that will
      be sorely missed.

      May she find peace and eternal joy among her ancestors.

      Valete bene!
      C. Maria Caeca
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94802 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      Salvete,
      My condolences.
      Please share a favorite paragraph of Colleen's works.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Friday, January 30, 2015 2:34 AM, "'cmc' c.mariacaeca@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Omnibus in Foro S. P. D.

      It is with sadness that I must tell you that the author Colleen McCullough,
      who created the extremely popular and acclaimed Masters of Rome series, died
      today. For some of us, her Masters of Rome series was the gateway through
      which we entered the world of ancient Rome, and chose to stay and learn
      about its history, people and culture. I know several citizens who are here
      because they were drawn by her very excellent books. Therefore, I honor
      this fine author as a kind of friend to our Res Publica, whether she knew
      that or not, but more, I honor her as a fine writer, and a voice that will
      be sorely missed.

      May she find peace and eternal joy among her ancestors.

      Valete bene!
      C. Maria Caeca
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94803 From: Ty Sponchia Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Call for governor reports and new provincial governors
      Salvete Consul,
       
      After reading your letter I find myself wishing to enter public service. My provinece already has a Governor however i would like to put my name forward as scriba for Alasca ET Havaia.

      Titus Sicinius Lupus



      From: "'M. Pompeius Caninus' caninus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      M. Pompeius Caninus consul quiritibus in foro S.P.D.

      Nova Roma has 44 provinciae with 18 sitting governors. I have heard from seven governors that they wish to continue serving during 2768 auc. Additionally, one citizen has requested a prior service exemption so he could step up as a governor in a currently vacant province. Another citizen has asked if he can serve as a legate or scriba in his province since he does not meet the qualifications for governor. 

      All governors:
      Check the list of provincial governors at Governors for 2768 AUC and, if you have not done so already, let me know whether or not you wish to continue serving as governor. Governors who have already contacted me have a Yes in the Continue? column.

      Finally, any governor who has moved or relocated to a different province in the past 12 months must contact me.

      Facite valeatis!
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
      Consul
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94804 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      Cn. Lentulus Mariae Caecae et omnibus Quiritibus Novis Romanis s. p. d.

      Oh no!... not her...! It is terrible news! She was the one who changed my focus of interest about ancient Rome switching it from the imperial period to the republcan period! If she hadn't written her excellent books my interests might be today, too, in the imperial era. But reading her series I have become a fervent and adamant Roman republican.

      May she rest in peace! May she be one of the guardians of Roman reconstructionism and Nova Roma!

      And yes, dear Maria, yes, she KNEW it, she knew about us! She was involved in Nova Roma when the Certamen Petronianum was conducted by the aediles around 2005, together with notable Roman history professor Dr. Peter Wiseman, as they two were the Jury of the Nova Roma Certamen Petroniamum Roman Historical Novel Writing Contest which was won by our T. Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus (Kristoffer From).

      Here is the page about announcing the results where McCullough's own words to Nova Roma can be read:
      http://www.novaroma.org/certamen/
       
      Those were wonderful time for Nova Roma, and a great honor that we had Colleen McCullough involved in our aedilician ludi!

      Moved by the sadness of her death and the dear memories when she was involved in NR activity, I added a little commemoration to the Main Page on our website, it will remain there for a couple of days, take a look at it:


      We shall remember her and pray for her!

      REQUIESCAT IN PACE!

      Cn. Cornelius Lentulus
      quaestor, pontifex etc.


      Da: "'cmc' c.mariacaeca@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Omnibus in Foro S. P. D.

      It is with sadness that I must tell you that the author Colleen McCullough,
      who created the extremely popular and acclaimed Masters of Rome series, died
      today. For some of us, her Masters of Rome series was the gateway through
      which we entered the world of ancient Rome, and chose to stay and learn
      about its history, people and culture. I know several citizens who are here
      because they were drawn by her very excellent books. Therefore, I honor
      this fine author as a kind of friend to our Res Publica, whether she knew
      that or not, but more, I honor her as a fine writer, and a voice that will
      be sorely missed.

      May she find peace and eternal joy among her ancestors.

      Valete bene!
      C. Maria Caeca
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94805 From: cmc Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies

      Salve Lentule, et Salvete Omnes!

       

      Ah …I came to NR 1 year too late!  That saddens me some, but I am glad to know that my offering of incense to her shade and my prayers for her were not entirely presumptuous.

       

      Vale et valete bene!

      C. Maria Caeca, and it was her Masters of Rome series that made me realize how wonderful the Roman Republic truly was, and quickened an interest that had, with time, faded into memory.

      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94806 From: Cn. Cornelius Lentulus Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      Salve, Maria!

      I used a great part of your words that you wrote to the Main List when creating a memorial note on our website about Colleen McCullough's passing away. I hope you don't mind that: you expressed very well exactly what I wanted to be added to the memorial note.

      Yes, her books so full of life and made the late republic so tangible and realistic for the reader. It's an immersion course in Roman republican history. I really value that. Very sadly for me, I wanted to translate her Masters of Rome series to Latin, and I wanted to write a letter to her about it, but it is too late for me to communicate with her ever. I missed this for ever...

      Vale et pax.
      Lentulus

      Da: "'cmc' c.mariacaeca@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Salve Lentule, et Salvete Omnes!
       
      Ah …I came to NR 1 year too late!  That saddens me some, but I am glad to know that my offering of incense to her shade and my prayers for her were not entirely presumptuous.
       
      Vale et valete bene!
      C. Maria Caeca, and it was her Masters of Rome series that made me realize how wonderful the Roman Republic truly was, and quickened an interest that had, with time, faded into memory.


      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94807 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      Caninus Lentulo sal.

      It may not be too late for you to do your translations. You will not be able to work directly with her but her agent, publisher and heirs may be willing to work with you if you are serious about the project. 

      Pax.
       
      Marcus Pompeius Caninus
       
       
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94808 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      Salve Quadra,

      I would have translated as 'I give many greetings to all those of good will'. (i.e. 'my fellow Romans'). Quiritibus is dative, while bonae voluntatis means 'of good will/intentions' - there's a famous bible quote which says 'Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis', 'And on earth peace to people of good will.' And the 'salutam plurimam' is the subject, the 'many greetings'; hence the 'bonae' doesn't apply to 'salutam', as then it would have to be 'bonae'. I hope this is correct and would encourage another person in this group to check me, as like you I am a student.

      It should be cum tutela Martis, as Mars is a 3rd declension noun. 'Vir summi ingeni means 'a man of the highest talents', I think 'with the highest talents of men', which you mean, should be (abl.) 'summis ingeniis hominum'. I'm not sure if you could use 'virorum' in this context, but if you do, it'll have to be gen. plural as well.

      Happy learning with the new materials you've bought. Feliciter!

      Valete optime,
      Pavo




      On Thursday, 29 January 2015, 23:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Quadra Scholoasticae Pavoni quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit,
      Could you translate with interleaved:
      quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit

      _____________________________________
      My guess is: I say many good greetings, saluting my fellow Romans.

      Gratias tibi ago for these reference leads:
      Orberg's Lingua Latina
      Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine
      Collins Gem dictionary
      Oxford Latin Dictionary
      Loeb texts

      I just bought the Diglot bible, and Wheelock's Latin Reader 2e.
      I'm starting to build quite a Latin library; I'll inventory it soon.

      If anyone wants a particular verse(s) from the interleaved Diglot bible, let me know. 

      Cum tutela Martum et vir summi ingeni, (did I say it correct?)
      With Mars' protection and man's highest talents, (did I translate it correct?)
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra



      On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:37 PM, "' A. Tullia Scholastica' fororom@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      A. Tullia Scholastica M. Valeriae Pavoni Ti. Marcio Quadrae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

       
      Salve Quadra,

      Just another suggestion for your Latin learning. I have found Orberg's Lingua Latina to be the best method so far, especially for dedicated and advanced learners like yourself. I use it with my tutor, and have learned 5 declensions in 5 weeks. I am also reading parts of the bible now. Getting yourself a usable dictionary - I recommend Cassell - and working through a Latin reader is another good way to improve.

      Ørberg (there is a diacritic on the initial O, which may be rendered as Oe) is a very good text, used by many Latinists.  I student-taught seventh grade Latin from it before it had audio discs or any form of modern vocabulary; apparently those have been added since then.  I know that the audios have been.  Both should be advantageous.  

      In our Latin schola, we use Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine, which not only has modern vocabulary included with the text and accompanying audios, including songs, but also provides grammar along with conversations and excerpts from ancient authors.  This is an assimilation method, and very effective in producing fluency in Latin.  The text is available in Latin / French (barely, as it was taken out of print some years ago and replaced by another text), Latin / Italian [il Latino senza Sforzo] and Latin / German [Latein Ohne Mühe], which is the most recent and the most carefully edited of the lot.  We provide translations into Spanish and English for our students in case they do not know any of these common languages although one must be able to read at least one of them in order to get a master's degree in most academic fields, and two are required for a doctorate.  The translations are not otherwise available.  

      As for dictionaries, we recommend the Collins Gem dictionary; Cassell's is reasonably good, as far as I am concerned, but the little Collins has paradigms, calendar and coin information, a stemma, and many other bits of information useful to anyone interested in Roman civilization.  When one obtains some fluency in Latin, one should head for the Oxford Latin Dictionary, but that is not something a beginner needs.  I believe that there is an abridged version, however, which might even be better than Cassell.  

      Quadra, most Latin authors are available in the Loeb texts, with translations on the facing pages (not interleaved).  I suspect that Catullus is among them.  However, Catullus wrote poetry, and poetry is MUCH more difficult to understand or translate than is prose.  The requirements of Latin metrics, in which the length of a syllable, not its stress accent, determined meter, had some interesting effects on grammar and vocabulary.  You would be better off with the likes of Caesar--AFTER you learn his favorite vocabulary and grammar, including the ablative absolute and oratio obliqua, also known as indirect statement or infinitive clauses.  Those are (or were) taught in HS Latin II, and are presented at the beginning of the intermediate traditional-method  Latin course I teach.    


      As for the recommendations, nihil est.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo

      Valete.  



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 20:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      On Jan 26, 2015 7:26 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com












      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94809 From: Valeria Pavo Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      Sorry, typo error. For the second 'bonae' in the first paragraph, please read as 'bonam'.

      From: Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Diglot book in Latin & English
      Sent: Thu, Jan 29, 2015 9:38:55 PM

       

      Salve Quadra,

      I would have translated as 'I give many greetings to all those of good will'. (i.e. 'my fellow Romans'). Quiritibus is dative, while bonae voluntatis means 'of good will/intentions' - there's a famous bible quote which says 'Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis', 'And on earth peace to people of good will.' And the 'salutam plurimam' is the subject, the 'many greetings'; hence the 'bonae' doesn't apply to 'salutam', as then it would have to be 'bonae'. I hope this is correct and would encourage another person in this group to check me, as like you I am a student.

      It should be cum tutela Martis, as Mars is a 3rd declension noun. 'Vir summi ingeni means 'a man of the highest talents', I think 'with the highest talents of men', which you mean, should be (abl.) 'summis ingeniis hominum'. I'm not sure if you could use 'virorum' in this context, but if you do, it'll have to be gen. plural as well.

      Happy learning with the new materials you've bought. Feliciter!

      Valete optime,
      Pavo




      On Thursday, 29 January 2015, 23:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Quadra Scholoasticae Pavoni quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit,
      Could you translate with interleaved:
      quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit

      _____________________________________
      My guess is: I say many good greetings, saluting my fellow Romans.

      Gratias tibi ago for these reference leads:
      Orberg's Lingua Latina
      Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine
      Collins Gem dictionary
      Oxford Latin Dictionary
      Loeb texts

      I just bought the Diglot bible, and Wheelock's Latin Reader 2e.
      I'm starting to build quite a Latin library; I'll inventory it soon.

      If anyone wants a particular verse(s) from the interleaved Diglot bible, let me know. 

      Cum tutela Martum et vir summi ingeni, (did I say it correct?)
      With Mars' protection and man's highest talents, (did I translate it correct?)
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra



      On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:37 PM, "' A. Tullia Scholastica' fororom@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      A. Tullia Scholastica M. Valeriae Pavoni Ti. Marcio Quadrae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

       
      Salve Quadra,

      Just another suggestion for your Latin learning. I have found Orberg's Lingua Latina to be the best method so far, especially for dedicated and advanced learners like yourself. I use it with my tutor, and have learned 5 declensions in 5 weeks. I am also reading parts of the bible now. Getting yourself a usable dictionary - I recommend Cassell - and working through a Latin reader is another good way to improve.

      Ørberg (there is a diacritic on the initial O, which may be rendered as Oe) is a very good text, used by many Latinists.  I student-taught seventh grade Latin from it before it had audio discs or any form of modern vocabulary; apparently those have been added since then.  I know that the audios have been.  Both should be advantageous.  

      In our Latin schola, we use Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine, which not only has modern vocabulary included with the text and accompanying audios, including songs, but also provides grammar along with conversations and excerpts from ancient authors.  This is an assimilation method, and very effective in producing fluency in Latin.  The text is available in Latin / French (barely, as it was taken out of print some years ago and replaced by another text), Latin / Italian [il Latino senza Sforzo] and Latin / German [Latein Ohne Mühe], which is the most recent and the most carefully edited of the lot.  We provide translations into Spanish and English for our students in case they do not know any of these common languages although one must be able to read at least one of them in order to get a master's degree in most academic fields, and two are required for a doctorate.  The translations are not otherwise available.  

      As for dictionaries, we recommend the Collins Gem dictionary; Cassell's is reasonably good, as far as I am concerned, but the little Collins has paradigms, calendar and coin information, a stemma, and many other bits of information useful to anyone interested in Roman civilization.  When one obtains some fluency in Latin, one should head for the Oxford Latin Dictionary, but that is not something a beginner needs.  I believe that there is an abridged version, however, which might even be better than Cassell.  

      Quadra, most Latin authors are available in the Loeb texts, with translations on the facing pages (not interleaved).  I suspect that Catullus is among them.  However, Catullus wrote poetry, and poetry is MUCH more difficult to understand or translate than is prose.  The requirements of Latin metrics, in which the length of a syllable, not its stress accent, determined meter, had some interesting effects on grammar and vocabulary.  You would be better off with the likes of Caesar--AFTER you learn his favorite vocabulary and grammar, including the ablative absolute and oratio obliqua, also known as indirect statement or infinitive clauses.  Those are (or were) taught in HS Latin II, and are presented at the beginning of the intermediate traditional-method  Latin course I teach.    


      As for the recommendations, nihil est.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo

      Valete.  



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 20:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      On Jan 26, 2015 7:26 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com












      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94810 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-01-29
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      Salvete omnes in foro!
      It is a sad new. She was one of my favorite writers. With her I discovered the pleasure of historical novels, but unfortunately at that time just got my hands "Favorites of Fortune". These days finally was reading the entire collection. Lying if I said that she came my love for ancient Rome, because I had it before, but she did manage to rise to that love be unconditional. It reflected life in Rome in the first century BC better than any historian. Gnaeus Cornelius I think you should continue with that project in his honor and would like to participate and offer my help. And to our beloved and longed writer I can only wish one thing: Sit Tibi Terra Levis.
      Optime Valete!
      Q.L.Catulus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94811 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-01-30
      Subject: Re: Diglot book in Latin & English
      A. Tullia Scholastica iterum M. Valeriae Pavoni Ti. Marcio Quadrae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

       

      Salve Quadra,

      I would have translated as 'I give many greetings to all those of good will'. (i.e. 'my fellow Romans'). Quiritibus is dative, while bonae voluntatis means 'of good will/intentions' - there's a famous bible quote which says 'Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis', 'And on earth peace to people of good will.' And the 'salutam plurimam' is the subject,

      Well, 'salútem plúrimam' is the direct object of 'dícit,' 'says.'  ("Says very many greetings").  It is in the accusative case, and only in indirect statement can the subject be in the accusative case, for there an infinitive is involved, replacing the finite verb.  Infinitives take their subjects in the accusative; finite verbs prefer the nominative.  

      'Bonae' does agree with 'voluntatis,' for both are genitive singular feminine; it is a genitive of description.  In turn (as you said, Pavo) it cannot agree with 'salútem,' which is accusative singular.  

      the 'many greetings'; hence the 'bonae' doesn't apply to 'salutam', as then it would have to be 'bonae'. I hope this is correct and would encourage another person in this group to check me, as like you I am a student.

      It should be cum tutela Martis, as Mars is a 3rd declension noun. 'Vir summi ingeni means 'a man of the highest talents', I think 'with the highest talents of men', which you mean, should be (abl.) 'summis ingeniis hominum'. I'm not sure if you could use 'virorum' in this context, but if you do, it'll have to be gen. plural as well.

      With regard to the other statement in Quadra's post, tutelá has to be ablative, and in order to differentiate it from the otherwise-identical nominative, we use a diacritic called an apex (which resembles an acute accent, or English stress mark), although most elementary Latin texts use the macron, or long mark.  The Romans used the apex, albeit irregularly.  In this construction (accompaniment) we may omit the preposition 'cum' IF an adjective modifies the noun.  

      Probably the rest of that sentence would be better rendered as 'summis ingeniis humanis,' or 'summis ingeniis hominum.'  The former is more Roman; they preferred adjectives to genitives of nouns whenever possible.  'Virorum' or 'viri' (genitive plural and genitive singular, respectively) apply only to adult males, which leaves the rest of us out of the equation as far as talents are concerned, whereas many women are very talented, and the condition is not unknown in children.  


      Happy learning with the new materials you've bought. Feliciter!

      Felicissimé!  BTW, Quadra; I use the Wheelock Reader in my Grammatica III class; it is NOT an elementary level text.  Some items in it are fairly simple, but many are quite challenging.   Best to master the basic Wheelock text, which has self-teaching exercises in the back, complete with suggested answers, before attempting to understand that.  Too, Desessard is bilingual, but NOT in English; the text is available only in Latin / Italian and Latin / German at present, although one may be able to find the original Latin / French text online or elsewhere.  The newer audios which accompany it were published by the Italian Assimil, whereas the original tapes or whatever were created under the auspices of the French Assimil.  Both reflect the speech habits of the actors employed to read the dialogs and sing the songs which accompany the sixth lesson in each lesson group.  

      Valete optime,
      Pavo

      Valete.


      On Thursday, 29 January 2015, 23:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Quadra Scholoasticae Pavoni quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit,
      Could you translate with interleaved:
      quiritibus bonae voluntatis salutem plurimam dicit

      _____________________________________
      My guess is: I say many good greetings, saluting my fellow Romans.

      Gratias tibi ago for these reference leads:
      Orberg's Lingua Latina
      Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine
      Collins Gem dictionary
      Oxford Latin Dictionary
      Loeb texts

      I just bought the Diglot bible, and Wheelock's Latin Reader 2e.
      I'm starting to build quite a Latin library; I'll inventory it soon.

      If anyone wants a particular verse(s) from the interleaved Diglot bible, let me know. 

      Cum tutela Martum et vir summi ingeni, (did I say it correct?)
      With Mars' protection and man's highest talents, (did I translate it correct?)
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra



      On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:37 PM, "' A. Tullia Scholastica' fororom@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      A. Tullia Scholastica M. Valeriae Pavoni Ti. Marcio Quadrae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D.

       
      Salve Quadra,

      Just another suggestion for your Latin learning. I have found Orberg's Lingua Latina to be the best method so far, especially for dedicated and advanced learners like yourself. I use it with my tutor, and have learned 5 declensions in 5 weeks. I am also reading parts of the bible now. Getting yourself a usable dictionary - I recommend Cassell - and working through a Latin reader is another good way to improve.

      Ørberg (there is a diacritic on the initial O, which may be rendered as Oe) is a very good text, used by many Latinists.  I student-taught seventh grade Latin from it before it had audio discs or any form of modern vocabulary; apparently those have been added since then.  I know that the audios have been.  Both should be advantageous.  

      In our Latin schola, we use Desessard's Le Latin Sans Peine, which not only has modern vocabulary included with the text and accompanying audios, including songs, but also provides grammar along with conversations and excerpts from ancient authors.  This is an assimilation method, and very effective in producing fluency in Latin.  The text is available in Latin / French (barely, as it was taken out of print some years ago and replaced by another text), Latin / Italian [il Latino senza Sforzo] and Latin / German [Latein Ohne Mühe], which is the most recent and the most carefully edited of the lot.  We provide translations into Spanish and English for our students in case they do not know any of these common languages although one must be able to read at least one of them in order to get a master's degree in most academic fields, and two are required for a doctorate.  The translations are not otherwise available.  

      As for dictionaries, we recommend the Collins Gem dictionary; Cassell's is reasonably good, as far as I am concerned, but the little Collins has paradigms, calendar and coin information, a stemma, and many other bits of information useful to anyone interested in Roman civilization.  When one obtains some fluency in Latin, one should head for the Oxford Latin Dictionary, but that is not something a beginner needs.  I believe that there is an abridged version, however, which might even be better than Cassell.  

      Quadra, most Latin authors are available in the Loeb texts, with translations on the facing pages (not interleaved).  I suspect that Catullus is among them.  However, Catullus wrote poetry, and poetry is MUCH more difficult to understand or translate than is prose.  The requirements of Latin metrics, in which the length of a syllable, not its stress accent, determined meter, had some interesting effects on grammar and vocabulary.  You would be better off with the likes of Caesar--AFTER you learn his favorite vocabulary and grammar, including the ablative absolute and oratio obliqua, also known as indirect statement or infinitive clauses.  Those are (or were) taught in HS Latin II, and are presented at the beginning of the intermediate traditional-method  Latin course I teach.    


      As for the recommendations, nihil est.

      Valete optime,
      Pavo

      Valete.  



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 20:49, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Q VP Salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      Catullus just may be the catalyst to my speaking Latin classical Latin fluently. Just as important, I will continue to study the grammar, and eventually will have the confidence to take a live international course to really hone brain to lives.
      I'm thinking about getting the Latin/English diglot bible but I have to get Kindle on my cell first, and I hardly have time for that right now.
      If anyone else has any suggestions, to it I look forward.
      Magnus gratias tibi ago,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       


      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:47 PM, "Valeria Pavo valeriapavo@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com

      There are many other such bibles available. Catullus' poetry is also available with Latin/English facing pages: http://www.amazon.com/Catullus-Bilingual-Latin-English-Edition/dp/0889628106


       



      On Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 6:53, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      TM.Quadra Scholaticae Sulla Salvete,

      Thanks for the lead, "interlinear bilingual texts." Maybe I can find what I want to read using the search words - interlinear bilingual texts.
      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:20 AM, "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
      Like the Loeb books?  Those are the ones I'm familiar with.
      Vale,
      Sulla
      On Jan 26, 2015 7:26 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com












      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94812 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-30
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      TM.Quadra Lentulus salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      If you translate Masters of Rome series, can you present it in interlinear format? For example:
      Sit Tibi Terra Levis.
      May the earth rest lightly on you.
      ... etc. For me, this is the easiest way to learn. Possibly do a four-way interlinear translation. For example:
      Latin
      English
      German
      Italian
      ... that would be coolest!

      I never heard of Colleen McCullough before this thread.
      Maybe this is a lesson that we should discuss more about current events besides just politics et ludi, not to mention religium et dates (but I like these).

      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Friday, January 30, 2015 9:11 AM, "Quintus Lutatius quintuslutatius@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Salvete omnes in foro!
      It is a sad new. She was one of my favorite writers. With her I discovered the pleasure of historical novels, but unfortunately at that time just got my hands "Favorites of Fortune". These days finally was reading the entire collection. Lying if I said that she came my love for ancient Rome, because I had it before, but she did manage to rise to that love be unconditional. It reflected life in Rome in the first century BC better than any historian. Gnaeus Cornelius I think you should continue with that project in his honor and would like to participate and offer my help. And to our beloved and longed writer I can only wish one thing: Sit Tibi Terra Levis.
      Optime Valete!
      Q.L.Catulus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94813 From: Filippo Zizzo Date: 2015-01-30
      Subject: Re: Colleen McCullough dies
      Omnibus sodalibus et comitibus Anglice loquentibus S.P.d. Nasica,
      dear Quadra, if you want to know something about Mrs. Doctor McCullough ( she was neurologist )  you can find just the whole life in few words in this Wikipedia site :
        I'm sixty y. old and I remenber above all " The thorn birds ". I was young and I was fascinated by those characters. Iuventus fugit ,  and we think of the old fine moments of the past time..........
      Valete optime


      Il Venerdì 30 Gennaio 2015 10:34, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      TM.Quadra Lentulus salutem plurimam dicit omnes in foro,
      If you translate Masters of Rome series, can you present it in interlinear format? For example:
      Sit Tibi Terra Levis.
      May the earth rest lightly on you.
      ... etc. For me, this is the easiest way to learn. Possibly do a four-way interlinear translation. For example:
      Latin
      English
      German
      Italian
      ... that would be coolest!

      I never heard of Colleen McCullough before this thread.
      Maybe this is a lesson that we should discuss more about current events besides just politics et ludi, not to mention religium et dates (but I like these).

      Valete,
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra
       



      On Friday, January 30, 2015 9:11 AM, "Quintus Lutatius quintuslutatius@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
      Salvete omnes in foro!
      It is a sad new. She was one of my favorite writers. With her I discovered the pleasure of historical novels, but unfortunately at that time just got my hands "Favorites of Fortune". These days finally was reading the entire collection. Lying if I said that she came my love for ancient Rome, because I had it before, but she did manage to rise to that love be unconditional. It reflected life in Rome in the first century BC better than any historian. Gnaeus Cornelius I think you should continue with that project in his honor and would like to participate and offer my help. And to our beloved and longed writer I can only wish one thing: Sit Tibi Terra Levis.
      Optime Valete!
      Q.L.Catulus
      Group: Nova-Roma Message: 94814 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-01-31
      Subject: IUSTITIA MAGIS REPUBLICA EXERCERE
      Salvete,
      One Latin word can have three translations, for example:
      Monemus - we advise, we ARE advising, we DO advise

      So each Latin sentence to the novice can be a maze.

      I need your MONE (advise)*.
      I'm revisiting my law school's motto. Its latest version is:
      IUSTITIA MAGIS REPUBLICA EXERCERE
      Justice More Commonly Practiced

      I want to keep it 2 - 4 words, having a pleasant audible ring.

      The idea that I'm trying to convey is:
      I started this law school on Guam, a first, because we the people should not have to be subject to leaving the island to obtain an American Bar Association accredited Juris Doctorate.

      I'm pretty set here (Guam USA) & at 46 years old, it isn't a pleasant thought that I have to move to Hawaii for three years to get my ABA accredited JD, and as I've witnessed, the average person on Guam is left to the wolves when it comes to their estates; the government has ripped off its citizens to the tune of millions of dollars -- $27 million in 1988 that consisted of 1/6th of my Leon-Guerrero family's estate was stolen, just to name one family.

      *Anyway, gratias tibi ago for your best Latin translation!
      Tiberius Marcius Quadra