Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Aug 30-31, 2015
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95791 From: dusio54 Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95792 From: cmc Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95793 From: Vedius Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95794 From: Majikpig@gmail Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: Laterensis' NR Trial Forum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95795 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: Laterensis' NR Trial Forum
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95796 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95797 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95798 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95799 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95800 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95801 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95802 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95803 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95804 From: m.flavius_celsus Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95805 From: cfurius Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95806 From: Scipio Second Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95807 From: kazakow Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95808 From: Scipio Second Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95809 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95810 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95811 From: dusio54 Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95812 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95813 From: reenbru Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95814 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Podcasts
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95815 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95816 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95817 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95818 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95819 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95791 From: dusio54 Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.

Salvete Omnes!


My name is Decimus Petronius Petrus. I am of the Plebian order and the Gens: Petronia. I am excited to be a new active/registered Citizen.


Bene vale!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95792 From: cmc Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.

Salve Petre!

 

Welcome to Nova Roma, Civis!  I hope your stay with us will be enjoyable and informative! 

 

Vale Bene, C. Maria Caeca

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95793 From: Vedius Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Welcome aboard! As you can probably tell, it's an exciting time to come into Nova Roma. Lots of excitement in the wind.

Vale,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95794 From: Majikpig@gmail Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: Laterensis' NR Trial Forum
I can provide hosting and database space for a forum. I have hosted many forums in the past, mostly phpBB, but also Simple Machines, and I am willing to set one up on my servers, provided that some other citizens will provide moderation.

Valete,
L. Marius Vestinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95795 From: Glenn Thacker Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: Laterensis' NR Trial Forum
Laterensis Vestino S.P.D.

Thank you for the offer, but Caninus has already offered to provide what's needed.  Assuming everything goes smoothly, I should be able to begin moving everything over later this week.  I hope to start implementing the remaining features then.

Di te incolumem custodiant!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From:"'Majikpig@gmail' majikpig@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  

I can provide hosting and database space for a forum. I have hosted many forums in the past, mostly phpBB, but also Simple Machines, and I am willing to set one up on my servers, provided that some other citizens will provide moderation.

Valete,
L. Marius Vestinus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95796 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Ave,

Welcome to NR!  Feel free to jump in the conversations and check the archive for recent activity.

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95797 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
A. Tullia Scholastica P. Quinctio Petro Augustino sal. 

Neither Quadra nor I said that those who do not speak Latin are Nazis, as is quite obvious from the texts of our messages.  Chances are good, too, that some genuine Nazis did not speak Latin; back then, spoken Latin was far rarer than at present.  Written Latin probably wasn't.  You are putting things into our words which are NOT there.  

It's quite true that some people have little or no innate language ability--but it seems that most manage to pick up at least one language.  The human brain is programmed for that, but (as I noted earlier) certain environmental influences are known to impair the ability of the brain to form circuits in (perhaps also between) Broca's and Wernicke's areas, which are the primary language departments of the brain.  Given that apes have managed to learn human language even though they cannot speak (their larynx has not moved to the current human location, which allows fluent speech--and choking to death), and moreover at least some have tried to teach human language to creatures incapable thereof, one really should not claim total inability to learn a second human language in the absence of demonstrable brain damage.  Immersion does wonders for language learning; if you were plopped into a Latin-speaking environment, you might learn Latin quickly enough.   

There is nothing shameful in encouraging, even requiring, Latin, especially in a Roman-based organization.  What is shameful are unwarranted outbursts against those who advocate its usage.  In my day, no one got into med school or law school without Latin (law school also required French), and many (non-vocational) high schools did not graduate anyone without a year or two of Latin, and perhaps some Greek into the bargain.  Greek makes Latin look really easy; it's a beautiful and expressive language, but has a vocabulary at least the size of the English one, and probably has at least three times the grammatical forms of Latin.  Educated ancient Romans knew and used Greek; perhaps we should also advocate the use of Greek on the ML.  

Immodica ira creat insaniam [Seneca]; supera animos et iram tuam [Ovidius].  Remedium irae est mora [Seneca]. 

Vale.   
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95798 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
HAPPY 2003rd BIRTHDAY CALIGULA (8/31/15) & MAY THE FOLLOWING MONTH CONTINUE TO BE NAMED AFTER YOU, THAT IS GERMANICUS 9/1/2015 Tuesday.
Gratias tibi ago Scholasticae et salutem plurimam dicit,
Emersion is the technique I'm looking for, at least at this rate: two digloti of LATIN/ENGLISH per posting.
For example:
In sudore vultus tui vesceris pane.
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread. (diglot #1)
Donec revertaris in terram de qua sumptus es : quia pulvis es et in pulverem reverteris.
Till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return. (diglot #2)
... and then the continued posting of as much as the Roman writer wants to say.
For the sake of purism, I'd advise Latin + the native language of the writer, i.e. in a discussion thread, as follows -- English then Latin-digloti then English.
For non-English speakers/writers, as follows -- their native tongue then Latin-digloti then their native tongue with the expectancy that others that speak said native tongue might reply.
Valete et sit Marte vos protegant et perducant te in commercii aedificiis aedificandam
Caio & may Mars protect you & lead you to build commercial buildings,
(Augustus Caesar) Tiberius Marcius Quadra (Nero Romano Germanicus)
 

From: "flavia@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Tullia Scholastica P. Quinctio Petro Augustino sal. 

Neither Quadra nor I said that those who do not speak Latin are Nazis, as is quite obvious from the texts of our messages.  Chances are good, too, that some genuine Nazis did not speak Latin; back then, spoken Latin was far rarer than at present.  Written Latin probably wasn't.  You are putting things into our words which are NOT there.  

It's quite true that some people have little or no innate language ability--but it seems that most manage to pick up at least one language.  The human brain is programmed for that, but (as I noted earlier) certain environmental influences are known to impair the ability of the brain to form circuits in (perhaps also between) Broca's and Wernicke's areas, which are the primary language departments of the brain.  Given that apes have managed to learn human language even though they cannot speak (their larynx has not moved to the current human location, which allows fluent speech--and choking to death), and moreover at least some have tried to teach human language to creatures incapable thereof, one really should not claim total inability to learn a second human language in the absence of demonstrable brain damage.  Immersion does wonders for language learning; if you were plopped into a Latin-speaking environment, you might learn Latin quickly enough.   

There is nothing shameful in encouraging, even requiring, Latin, especially in a Roman-based organization.  What is shameful are unwarranted outbursts against those who advocate its usage.  In my day, no one got into med school or law school without Latin (law school also required French), and many (non-vocational) high schools did not graduate anyone without a year or two of Latin, and perhaps some Greek into the bargain.  Greek makes Latin look really easy; it's a beautiful and expressive language, but has a vocabulary at least the size of the English one, and probably has at least three times the grammatical forms of Latin.  Educated ancient Romans knew and used Greek; perhaps we should also advocate the use of Greek on the ML.  

Immodica ira creat insaniam [Seneca]; supera animos et iram tuam [Ovidius].  Remedium irae est mora [Seneca]. 

Vale.   
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95799 From: Quintus Lutatius Date: 2015-08-30
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Q. Lutatius Catulus A. Tullia Scholastica S. P. D.
Yes, I would be interested in those latin courses and I would like to know more about it
Valete
Catulus




El Lunes 31 de agosto de 2015 2:21, "flavia@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Tullia Scholastica P. Quinctio Petro Augustino sal. 

Neither Quadra nor I said that those who do not speak Latin are Nazis, as is quite obvious from the texts of our messages.  Chances are good, too, that some genuine Nazis did not speak Latin; back then, spoken Latin was far rarer than at present.  Written Latin probably wasn't.  You are putting things into our words which are NOT there.  

It's quite true that some people have little or no innate language ability--but it seems that most manage to pick up at least one language.  The human brain is programmed for that, but (as I noted earlier) certain environmental influences are known to impair the ability of the brain to form circuits in (perhaps also between) Broca's and Wernicke's areas, which are the primary language departments of the brain.  Given that apes have managed to learn human language even though they cannot speak (their larynx has not moved to the current human location, which allows fluent speech--and choking to death), and moreover at least some have tried to teach human language to creatures incapable thereof, one really should not claim total inability to learn a second human language in the absence of demonstrable brain damage.  Immersion does wonders for language learning; if you were plopped into a Latin-speaking environment, you might learn Latin quickly enough.   

There is nothing shameful in encouraging, even requiring, Latin, especially in a Roman-based organization.  What is shameful are unwarranted outbursts against those who advocate its usage.  In my day, no one got into med school or law school without Latin (law school also required French), and many (non-vocational) high schools did not graduate anyone without a year or two of Latin, and perhaps some Greek into the bargain.  Greek makes Latin look really easy; it's a beautiful and expressive language, but has a vocabulary at least the size of the English one, and probably has at least three times the grammatical forms of Latin.  Educated ancient Romans knew and used Greek; perhaps we should also advocate the use of Greek on the ML.  

Immodica ira creat insaniam [Seneca]; supera animos et iram tuam [Ovidius].  Remedium irae est mora [Seneca]. 

Vale.   
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95800 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
A. Tullia Scholastica Q. Lutatio S.P.D. 

Bene; I shall contact you privately on this subject, but probably much later today.  It is heartening to see someone who wants to learn Latin!  

Valé!  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95801 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
TM.Quadra Sullae Decimus Petronius Petrus salutem plurimam dicit,
Salve et welcome Petrus!
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra

From: "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave,

Welcome to NR!  Feel free to jump in the conversations and check the archive for recent activity.

Respectfully,

Sulla

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 1:56 PM, dusio54@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95802 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Salve Hadrianus,
Diglot please. That means, diglot - the verb to write both the Latin & its English translation below. Digloting is helpful because it provides the writer's exact intent with none to little miscommunication.
Gratias tibi ago
Thank you,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Bruno Zani reenbru@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Mea harpasti¹ dilectissima "Juventus" factio a Romae factione hodie in Roma profligata fuit.
Nova factio "Sassuolo", quae ad maximo grado in anno MMDCCLXVII promota fuit, ducet totas factiones in foedere².

Valete optime!

¹ Worldwide (but not American) style of football.
² League
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95803 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Augustinus et alii,
I'm not sure what you're reading or anyone else is reading but I vehemently refute the allegations that I or Scholasticae have used in any way, any demeaning term.
Please stop the accusation, and continue enjoying Nova Romae.
This is the first & the last time I will address this error.
Romae quidem
Rome's truly,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Scipio Second scipiosecond@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave A. Tullia Scholastica T. Marcio Quadrae,

Really?   Because I do not speak Latin, now I am a Nazi?   Such a blanket accusation is at best troubling.

I took one year of Latin in college.   My professor was kind enough to give me a C, while advising me I would never pass second year Latin.     There are some of us who have no innate ability in languages.  I am one.  I admire and envy those who have an aptitude for acquiring languages. 

Yet it is exactly this type of comment which tends to discourage those who have an interest in ancient Rome and would be inclined to join Nova Roma to expand that interest.  To make such supercilious assertions is unfortunate.  For shame!

Vale,

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus
Legate pro Praetore, Province of Texia  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95804 From: m.flavius_celsus Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Salve, Petre!

Welcome!

Let me congratulate you to with obtaining citizenship!

For connection with local community use this map to search nearest NR citizens: 
Nova Roma

 
if you even not find someone near, please show your location for another romans.
Be free to ask questions here in mail list.

You also can join communities in social networks:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/novaroma.org
Vkontakte: http://vk.com/sarmatiaprov (russian speaking group)

We are currently working to create a new web forum.

Also please give the answer:
How you find Nova Roma?

Vete!

 
Marcus Flavius Celsus
Sarmatia Prov.

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95805 From: cfurius Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Has there been any agreement on the Latin? I rather liked the idea of an aggressive latinisation idea. A shared primary language seems to me a fantastic way to ground New Rome in its foundation as a micronation.


C. Furius Scaevola
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95806 From: Scipio Second Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Ave Decimus Petronius Petrus,

Welcome to Nova Roma.  Please tell us something of yourself.   Which province do you call home?

Vale optime,

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus
Legatus pro Praetore, Province of Texia
Legatus Legionis, Legio XIII Gemina 



On Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:56 PM, "dusio54@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salvete Omnes!

My name is Decimus Petronius Petrus. I am of the Plebian order and the Gens: Petronia. I am excited to be a new active/registered Citizen.

Bene vale!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95807 From: kazakow Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Greetings! How old legionary, I want to tell you Petrus, that to be here and have the citizenship of Nova Roma does not mean to be a Roman. You are from Nova Britannia Ulterior, so speak to your governor. Being Roman means to serve Rome. Ask yourself how you can be useful to Rome. And start acting. Turn Rome in reality.
________________
Crassus
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis | Sarmatia
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95808 From: Scipio Second Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
No error was made! 



On Monday, August 31, 2015 4:12 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Augustinus et alii,
I'm not sure what you're reading or anyone else is reading but I vehemently refute the allegations that I or Scholasticae have used in any way, any demeaning term.
Please stop the accusation, and continue enjoying Nova Romae.
This is the first & the last time I will address this error.
Romae quidem
Rome's truly,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Scipio Second scipiosecond@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave A. Tullia Scholastica T. Marcio Quadrae,

Really?   Because I do not speak Latin, now I am a Nazi?   Such a blanket accusation is at best troubling.

I took one year of Latin in college.   My professor was kind enough to give me a C, while advising me I would never pass second year Latin.     There are some of us who have no innate ability in languages.  I am one.  I admire and envy those who have an aptitude for acquiring languages. 

Yet it is exactly this type of comment which tends to discourage those who have an interest in ancient Rome and would be inclined to join Nova Roma to expand that interest.  To make such supercilious assertions is unfortunate.  For shame!

Vale,

Publius Quinctius Petrus Augustinus
Legate pro Praetore, Province of Texia  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95809 From: Bruno Zani Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro Tiberio Marcio Quadrae S.P.D.

Let me first correct the two horrible grammar errors contained in my last posting. 
1) profligata fuit should be changed to profligata est (passive perfect tens of profligo = to lose, to be defeated)
2) promota fuit  should be changed to promota erat (passive pluperfect tens of promoveo = to be promoted).
I simply followed Italian, rather than Latin, rules. 

Now for today's posting, which I hope will follow better the Latin rules.

Mortus est Wes Craven, pater horroris et Freddy Kruger, domi in Civitate Angelorum in septuagesimo sexto anno.
Repertor Iohannis Deep etiam fuit.


1) Mortus est = Perfect tense of deponent verb Morior (to die). Deponent verbs follow the passive conjugation but the meaning remains active.
2) domi = at home (vestiges of an antiquated locative case)
3) fuit = Perfect tense of esse (to be).
Nota that most English names are not declined (but Iohannes is).
 but

Wes Craven, father of Horror and Freddy Kruger died in his home in Los Angeles at 76 years of age.
He also discovered Johnny Deep.

Valete omnes
ALH






On Monday, August 31, 2015 2:05 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Hadrianus,
Diglot please. That means, diglot - the verb to write both the Latin & its English translation below. Digloting is helpful because it provides the writer's exact intent with none to little miscommunication.
Gratias tibi ago
Thank you,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Bruno Zani reenbru@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Mea harpasti¹ dilectissima "Juventus" factio a Romae factione hodie in Roma profligata fuit.
Nova factio "Sassuolo", quae ad maximo grado in anno MMDCCLXVII promota fuit, ducet totas factiones in foedere².

Valete optime!

¹ Worldwide (but not American) style of football.
² League
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95810 From: gattarocanadese Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Salve, Hadriane!

Following the pattern of Augustus's last line of his Res Gestae  (Cum scripsi haec annum agebam septuagensumum sextum), a very Roman way of saying something happened when someone was 76 would be to end the line with

agebat septuagensumum septimum  (in his seventy-seventh year, i.e., while he was seventy-six).

Vale!
Quadratus



To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:16:26 +0000
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Daily Latin comment

 

A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro Tiberio Marcio Quadrae S.P.D.

Let me first correct the two horrible grammar errors contained in my last posting. 
1) profligata fuit should be changed to profligata est (passive perfect tens of profligo = to lose, to be defeated)
2) promota fuit  should be changed to promota erat (passive pluperfect tens of promoveo = to be promoted).
I simply followed Italian, rather than Latin, rules. 

Now for today's posting, which I hope will follow better the Latin rules.

Mortus est Wes Craven, pater horroris et Freddy Kruger, domi in Civitate Angelorum in septuagesimo sexto anno.
Repertor Iohannis Deep etiam fuit.


1) Mortus est = Perfect tense of deponent verb Morior (to die). Deponent verbs follow the passive conjugation but the meaning remains active.
2) domi = at home (vestiges of an antiquated locative case)
3) fuit = Perfect tense of esse (to be).
Nota that most English names are not declined (but Iohannes is).
 but

Wes Craven, father of Horror and Freddy Kruger died in his home in Los Angeles at 76 years of age.
He also discovered Johnny Deep.

Valete omnes
ALH






On Monday, August 31, 2015 2:05 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Hadrianus,
Diglot please. That means, diglot - the verb to write both the Latin & its English translation below. Digloting is helpful because it provides the writer's exact intent with none to little miscommunication.
Gratias tibi ago
Thank you,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Bruno Zani reenbru@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Mea harpasti¹ dilectissima "Juventus" factio a Romae factione hodie in Roma profligata fuit.
Nova factio "Sassuolo", quae ad maximo grado in anno MMDCCLXVII promota fuit, ducet totas factiones in foedere².

Valete optime!

¹ Worldwide (but not American) style of football.
² League
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95811 From: dusio54 Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
Salve Augustinus,

I call Nova Britannia Ulterior my home. Thank you for your warm welcome.

Bene vale,

Decimus Petronius Petrus



---In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, <scipiosecond@...  
Salvete Omnes!

My name is Decimus Petronius Petrus. I am of the Plebian order and the Gens: Petronia. I am excited to be a new active/registered Citizen.

Bene vale!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95812 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
A. Tullia Scholastica A. Liburnio Hadriano C. Claudio Quadrato quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

Quadratus is right about the means of expressing age…

Some additional corrections:  mortuus est, with two u's;  'in' is not used with the names of cities, and the moderator of my Latin immersion in Seattle, who was born and raised in Los Angeles, Latinized that city's name as 'Angelopolis.'  Thus the locative (used with city / town / village / island names) would be 'Angelopoli.' 

Many Hebrew-derived names are not declined in Latin, although some can be either declined in the third declension or left as indeclinables.  Other names are usually declined:  Johannes, Marcus, Carolus, Stephanus, Eduardus / Edvardus, Paulus, Petrus, Gulielmus [William], etc.  

I think that the correct version is 'Johnny Depp,' not 'Deep,' but I am no expert on that sort of thing.  

Vale, et valete!  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95813 From: reenbru Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Avete omnes.

I was trying to remember the correct way to express age. Thank you for suggesting it to me.  I accept Angelopoli as good name for Los Angeles."
El pueblo de nostra Senora, Regina de los Angeles" was its official name until the Mexican-American war of 1846. It was the eight Mission built on the "Camino Real" or Royal Highway.

You are correct  about the use of locative for cities and islands.

Johnny Depp is not the name on the Italian news paper carrying the news on his front page...8-) and I am not an expert in that sort of things either. I do prefer live opera , preferably  in Italian...

Anyway, I am trying to get my Latin legs back and eventually I may run marathons.

Valete omnes
ALH


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95814 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Podcasts
Avete Omnes,

I am making a list of the podcasts that I have enjoyed and even repeated listening - but do you have any podcasts that you would like for me to include on the list?

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95815 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
A. Tullia Scholastica A. Liburnio Hadriano quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

Age can be expressed in more than one way, but (for example), 'ago sexage[n]simum et tertium annum' ['I am 63,' using Cicero's age] is quite standard.  Incidentally, the 'n' in 'sexagensimum' merely nasalized the preceding vowel, and was lost.  The u-sound at the end changed to i, but was still present as a u in the archaic period.  

       'Angelopolis' sounds fine to me.  The locative is 'Angelopoli,' but the nominative has that extra s on the end.  Locatives were used with the names of towns (cities, villages, small islands), the words 'domus,' [house] and 'rus' [countryside], and 'humi' [on the ground] as well as in some fixed expressions, such as 'domi militiaeque,' 'at home and on the battlefield.'  

       The names of entertainers and athletes are terra incognita to me.  I merely suggested the most likely one I have heard on occasion.  Others may be better versed in that sort of thing.  

       Somehow German opera is more to my liking--I can sort of understand some of it.  In any case, we don't have an opera house here, but there is a fine philharmonic orchestra.  

      We can help you get your Latin legs back; practice makes perfect!  We used to have at least three or four of us writing long posts in Latin on the ML, but some of those correspondents have left NR, or become inactive.  There are enough of us still here, however, who can write Latin--and should if for no better reason than to show that it can be done.  It is not impossible.  Latin presents the difficulty that new words must be invented or adapted for things the Romans did not have, but there are dictionaries of such terms, and we hope that a certain party will someday publish his work on the subject.  

Vale, et valete.  





  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95816 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: New Civis.
A. Tullia Scholastica D. Petronio Petro quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

A warm welcome to you and the other new citizens!  We would like to learn a bit about you:  where you are, what you do, maybe why you joined NR…

Vale(te)!  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95817 From: flavia@... Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
A. Tullia Scholastica C. Furio Scaevolae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

Unfortunately, there hasn't been any move to adopt Latin as our business language.  There would be loud screams from those who cannot read it, let alone write it, especially from those who feel that they must read everything on every list to which they are subscribed.  Moreover, Latin presents additional difficulties in that vocabulary for non-Roman concepts and things must be adopted; there are fixed means of acquiring such words, which Avitus describes in his Sermo courses.  'Gestabile' / 'mobile' [cell phone], 'computator' / 'computatrix' / 'ordinatrum' [computer], 'ascensor' [elevator] are among these; those taught solely in traditional Latin are unfamiliar with these and other neologisms.  Not even the popular Nature Method Latin books touch upon these, and those for Sermo are from the mid-1960s, before the Net and cell phones and other such gadgets and concepts.  In the courses, Avitus has added neologisms to aid with such communication, but one must take the courses (and survive them) in order to benefit from these.  

A shared primary language which is native to none is indeed a good idea, especially in a Roman-based organization, and immersion is a fantastic way of learning, but we must move somewhat slowly.  Translation impairs learning; the target language must be presented alone.  

Vale, et valete.  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95818 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: "Names from the past" (a message from a retired citizen)
Salvete,
I don't know about you et alii but I'm enjoying as yearly tradition, my viewing of CALIGULA, Bob Guccione's version - on this his birthday, Caligula a great builder.
Marti, ego amant eam!
Mars, I love it!
Adferant velim quibus facere accuratius plane-vertere Romanorum fabulis.
I wish they'd make more accurately literal-versions of Roman histories.
... regarding communicating in Latin herein (my suggested model above), I suggest not to be formal yet, or not for formal use. Let's give it at least four years (versus/towards 2772 a.u.c.) amongst ourselves before we step it up to civil/legal usages.
Valete,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "flavia@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Tullia Scholastica C. Furio Scaevolae quiritibus bonae voluntatis S.P.D. 

Unfortunately, there hasn't been any move to adopt Latin as our business language.  There would be loud screams from those who cannot read it, let alone write it, especially from those who feel that they must read everything on every list to which they are subscribed.  Moreover, Latin presents additional difficulties in that vocabulary for non-Roman concepts and things must be adopted; there are fixed means of acquiring such words, which Avitus describes in his Sermo courses.  'Gestabile' / 'mobile' [cell phone], 'computator' / 'computatrix' / 'ordinatrum' [computer], 'ascensor' [elevator] are among these; those taught solely in traditional Latin are unfamiliar with these and other neologisms.  Not even the popular Nature Method Latin books touch upon these, and those for Sermo are from the mid-1960s, before the Net and cell phones and other such gadgets and concepts.  In the courses, Avitus has added neologisms to aid with such communication, but one must take the courses (and survive them) in order to benefit from these.  

A shared primary language which is native to none is indeed a good idea, especially in a Roman-based organization, and immersion is a fantastic way of learning, but we must move somewhat slowly.  Translation impairs learning; the target language must be presented alone.  

Vale, et valete.  
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 95819 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-08-31
Subject: Re: Daily Latin comment
Verendus partis/Awesome share, Liburnius!
Gratias tibi ago.
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Bruno Zani reenbru@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro Tiberio Marcio Quadrae S.P.D.

Let me first correct the two horrible grammar errors contained in my last posting. 
1) profligata fuit should be changed to profligata est (passive perfect tens of profligo = to lose, to be defeated)
2) promota fuit  should be changed to promota erat (passive pluperfect tens of promoveo = to be promoted).
I simply followed Italian, rather than Latin, rules. 

Now for today's posting, which I hope will follow better the Latin rules.

Mortus est Wes Craven, pater horroris et Freddy Kruger, domi in Civitate Angelorum in septuagesimo sexto anno.
Repertor Iohannis Deep etiam fuit.


1) Mortus est = Perfect tense of deponent verb Morior (to die). Deponent verbs follow the passive conjugation but the meaning remains active.
2) domi = at home (vestiges of an antiquated locative case)
3) fuit = Perfect tense of esse (to be).
Nota that most English names are not declined (but Iohannes is).
 but

Wes Craven, father of Horror and Freddy Kruger died in his home in Los Angeles at 76 years of age.
He also discovered Johnny Deep.

Valete omnes
ALH






On Monday, August 31, 2015 2:05 AM, "Robin Marquardt remarq777@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Hadrianus,
Diglot please. That means, diglot - the verb to write both the Latin & its English translation below. Digloting is helpful because it provides the writer's exact intent with none to little miscommunication.
Gratias tibi ago
Thank you,
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Bruno Zani reenbru@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Liburnius Hadrianus omnibus in foro S.P.D.

Mea harpasti¹ dilectissima "Juventus" factio a Romae factione hodie in Roma profligata fuit.
Nova factio "Sassuolo", quae ad maximo grado in anno MMDCCLXVII promota fuit, ducet totas factiones in foedere².

Valete optime!

¹ Worldwide (but not American) style of football.
² League