Publius Porcius Licinus Tribunus Plebis Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 12 October 2015 - a.d. iv Id. Oct. MMDCCLXVIII A.U.C.

Presiding Magistrate:

Marcus Pompeius Caninus, Consul

Quorum:

Decius Iunius Palladius is on Leave - his Proxy is assigned to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

Marcus Minucius Audens is on Leave – his Proxy is assigned to Marcus Pompeius Caninus

There are 24 voting members of the Senate giving a minimum quorum of 16 voting members. With 18 voting members present the quorum is achieved.

SCHEDULE:

06:00 AM Rome Time (CET) : 16 Sep 2015 : Call to order. Debate period commences.

06:00 AM Rome Time (CET) : 24 Sep 2015 : Debate period ends.

06:00 AM Rome Time (CET) : 24 Sep 2015 : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

06:00 AM Rome Time (CET) : 28 Sep 2015 : Voting period ends.

06:00 AM Rome Time (CET) : 30 Sep 2015 : Call to close issued before this time.

VOTING AGENDA:

Item I – SENATUS CONSULTUM ON GRANTING GNAEUS CONELIUS LENTULUS ACCESS TO THE CENSORIAL DATABASE OF NOVA ROMA

Item II – SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE APPOINTMENT OF SEXTUS LUCILIUS TUTOR AS GOVERNOR OF SARMATIA

Item III – SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE APPOINTMENT OF TITUS DOMITIUS DRACO AS GOVERNOR OF MEDIATLANTICA WITH PRIOR SERVICE EXEMPTION (Withdrawn – no vote)

Item IV – SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE PROVINCE OF ACTIVITY FOR THE SENIOR CONSUL

Item V – SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE PROVINCE OF ACTIVITY FOR THE JUNIOR CONSUL

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been tallied as shown below.

Item I -- Passed  (Uti Rogas 14, Antiquo 4, Abstineo 0)

Item II -- Passed (Uti Rogas 17, Antiquo 0, Abstineo 1)

Item III -- Withdrawn, no vote

Item IV -- Passed (Uti Rogas 17, Antiquo 0, Abstineo 1)

Item V -- Passed (Uti Rogas 18, Antiquo 0, Abstineo 0)

The following 18 senators or voting members of the Senate cast votes in time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in alphabetical order by nomen:

* CAC C. Aemilius Crassus

* PACP P. Annaeus Constantinus Placidus

* LCSF L. Cornelius Sulla Felix, Acting Princeps Sen.

* SCVIA Sta. Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia

* QFM Q. Fabius Maximus

* CnIC Cn. Iulius Caesar

* DIPI De. Iunius Palladius Invictus, Princeps Sen.(on leave)

* TIS T. Iulius Sabinus

* ALH A. Liburnius Hadriani

* SLT S. Lucilius Tutor

* CMC C. Maria Caeca

* PoMS Po. Minucia Strabo

* MMA M. Minucius Audens (on leave)

* MPC M. Pompeius Caninus

*CPL C. Popillius Laenas

* QSP Q. Suetonius Paulinus

* ATS A. Tullia Scholastica

* PUSV P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator

The following 6 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a vote or did not cast a vote on time:

* M. Cornelius Gualterus Graecus

* L. Equitius Cincinnatus Augur

* C. Marcius Crispus

* C. Petronius Dexter

* C. Tullius Valerianus Germanicus

* C. Vipsanius Agrippa

In the voting results shown below "Uti Rogas" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "Antiquo" is a vote against, and "Abstineo" is an open abstention.

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 ==Item I - SENATUS CONSULTUM ON GRANTING GNAEUS CONELIUS LENTULUS ACCESS TO THE CENSORIAL DATABASE OF NOVA ROMA ==

 ===Proposal===

SENATUS CONSULTUM ON GRANTING GNAEUS CONELIUS LENTULUS ACCESS TO THE CENSORIAL DATABASE OF NOVA ROMA

The Senate of Nova Roma grants Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus, the duly appointed scribe of Publius Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, access to the Censorial database of Nova Roma for the remainder of 2768 AUC or until such time as his service under Censor Placidus is terminated, whichever occurs first.

===Results===

Uti rogas: 14

Antiquo: 4

Abstineo: 0

===Votes and discussions===

* CAC—Uti Rogas “I have full trust in Cn. Cornelius Lentulus to access the database so I have no problem in accepting the request from Censor Placidus.”

* PACP—Uti Rogas “For no other reason than I need him”

* LCSF—Antiquo “I don't believe that Lentulus is ethically qualified to have access to confidential information.  Given his previous conduct the Senate by approving this has just legalized such conduct and should be prepared for such consequences.  And no one should complain when they get privately e-mailed political issues outside the official fora. What's good for Lentulus is good for any other citizen.”

* SCVIA—Antiquo “Simply looking at this from a ethical standpoint.  This has nothing to do with Cn. Lentulus as a person.   I find him to be a nice fellow personally.  Yet his actions during Sulla's consulship do cause for some concern.  It has a cloud hovering where it casts suspicion.  Such a feeling that does not go away although I am sure this item will pass. Therefore  I have my humble pies in the oven and my rack of crow waiting for me personally if I am wrong.  We all make mistakes-even posterboy of Concordia the great Lentulus.  I am actually hoping while back in the Censor's Office he will prove me wrong and behaves himself.”

* QFM—Uti Rogas

* CnIC—Antiquo “I vote this way for two reasons. Firstly, censors have to trust their staff. They can’t be overseeing every aspect of every communication that goes out, and every transaction performed. Placidus censor obviously trusts Lentulus, but given what I see as an ethical failure Lentulus had in his dealings with Lucius Sulla as consul, it remains a concern to me that if a similar situation arose Lentulus would again have another ethical failure, except this time it could involve the database and a censor. Secondly, I remain unconvinced that Lentulus would abide by the letter AND the spirit of the senate’s expressed wish to process applications as fast as possible (subject to executing all required, and effective, due diligence to prevent infiltration by extremist groups, competing organizations or juveniles etc.), and that he would not try to lengthen the application period to ensure that an application was a “quality” one, which is to me just a backdoor method of resurrecting the delay inherent in the now suspended probationary citizenship process.”

* DIPI—Antiquo

* TIS—Uti Rogas

* ALH—Uti Rogas

* SLT—Uti Rogas “Lentulus will do excellent job in censorial database. He is ethical and trustworthy. Those who discredit him do it from political conflict reasons.”

* CMC—Uti Rogas “I have some reservations, but they stem from my own experience as a brand new citizen, and I’m not entirely sure they would be relevant in the changed procedures which govern the processing of applications, and create a different environment.  I have no doubt that Lentulus can do the job efficiently, or that he will work cooperatively with Placidus Censor.”

* PoMS—Uti Rogas

* MMA—Uti Rogas

* MPC—Uti Rogas “Censor Placidus obviously trusts Lentulus and has requested Lentulus as his scribe. I, too, trust Lentulus to perform his duties in a fair, ethical and efficient manner.”

*CPL—Uti Rogas

* QSP—Uti Rogas

* ATS—Uti Rogas “I have known Lentulus long enough to have serious questions about the negative comments some have made about him. To me, he seems quite honorable, and devoted to Rome and Nova Roma.”

* PUSV—Uti Rogas “I trust the Censors to keep their staffs within due bounds, under the conditions set.”

==Item II - SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE APPOINTMENT OF SEXTUS LUCILIUS TUTOR AS GOVERNOR OF SARMATIA==

===Proposal===

SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE APPOINTMENT OF SEXTUS LUCILIUS TUTOR AS GOVERNOR OF SARMATIA

The Senate of Nova Roma appoints Sextus Lucilius Tutor as governor of Sarmatia. Titus Flavius Severus shall serve as Legatus under Sextus Lucilius Tutor.

===Results===

Uti rogas: 17

Antiquo: 0

Abstineo: 1

===Votes and discussions===

* CAC—Uti Rogas “I don't know if there is a good solution for this matter and since I can't suggest any better path I support the Consules proposal.”

* PACP—Uti Rogas

* LCSF—Uti Rogas

* SCVIA—Uti Rogas “I am voting yes with some reservations.  Yet if Tutor can put on the gentle yet iron glove and whip Sarmatia back into shape.  More power to him.”

* QFM—Uti Rogas

* CnIC—Uti Rogas “I too would have preferred to see a local candidate installed, but Severus has made that impossible for now, because he just hasn’t demonstrated that he has any respect for the very senate that would have put him in that position, and frankly not much faith in Nova Roma either. He has a small window of time to turn that around, if he wants to do so. At the same time he has to demonstrate he can communicate the benefits of Nova Roman citizenship to his fellow Sarmatians. Unlike them, and sadly even some others, I don’t subscribe to the view that there are none, or that they aren’t substantive enough. Under the guidance of Lucilius Tutor consul, I would hope that Severus can manage all that. This is not rocket science, so he should be able to, and if he fails it will be a failure of will, or a failure of those citizens he is responsible for (not responsible to – an important fact he needs to remember). Having the consul at the helm will mean if that those citizens do depart, they won’t walk out with yet another Nova Roman governor, that this House put there, in the lead.”

* DIPI—Uti Rogas

* TIS—Uti Rogas

* ALH—Uti Rogas

* SLT—Abstineo “I wanted him to be the governor but if this is what Caesar want I will accept this as temporary transitional situation until he is reappointed governor next year.”

* CMC—Uti Rogas “I would have liked to see us be able to appoint Severus as Governor again, but his statements and decorum on the Main list make doing so unwise at best.  Under this compromise, he can learn from Tutor Consul,  have the Consul’s assistance in dealing with his citizens, and we can be assured that Nova Roma’s interests will be protected.”

* PoMS—Uti Rogas “I am more comfortable with this arrangement.”

* MMA—Uti Rogas

* MPC—Uti Rogas “I would rather see T. Flavius Severus be reappointed to this position but I understand the concerns of my fellow Senators. This appointment will allow Severus some time to become more familiar with how Nova Roma operates following the adoption of numerous reforms. It will also allow some time for Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis to build a stronger association with Nova Roma.”

*CPL—Uti Rogas

* QSP—Uti Rogas

* ATS—Uti Rogas “I hope, however, that T. Flavius Severus has been apprised of this change to the agenda, as Caeca kindly suggested.”

* PUSV—Uti Rogas “As I wrote earlier, I think this a good compromise for the time period discussed.”

==Item III - SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE APPOINTMENT OF TITUS DOMITIUS DRACO AS GOVERNOR OF MEDIATLANTICA WITH PRIOR SERVICE EXEMPTION (Withdrawn – no vote)==

=== No vote===

==Item IV - SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE PROVINCE OF ACTIVITY FOR THE SENIOR CONSUL ==

===Proposal===

SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE PROVINCE OF ACTIVITY FOR THE SENIOR CONSUL

The senior consul for the year 2769 A.U.C. is instructed by the Senate of Nova Roma to pursue the following items to a successful completion on or before the date indicated during his/her year in office. The senior consul shall post a progress report monthly to the Senate, by means of posting to the Senate list, detailing the steps he/she has taken to bring these items to a successful conclusion. Between December 1st and December 15th of 2769 A.U.C. the senior consul shall post his/her final progress report to the Senate list. If he/she has not brought any item below to a successful conclusion, then he/she will explain in detail to the Senate the reasons for his/her failure to do so.

===Results===

Uti rogas: 17

Antiquo: 0

Abstineo: 1

===Votes and discussions===

* CAC—Uti Rogas “I hope we see the end of this saga next year.”

* PACP—Uti Rogas

* LCSF—Uti Rogas

* SCVIA—Uti Rogas

* QFM—Uti Rogas

* CnIC—Uti Rogas

* DIPI—Uti Rogas

* TIS—Uti Rogas

* ALH—Uti Rogas

* SLT—Uti Rogas

* CMC—Uti Rogas

* PoMS—Uti Rogas

* MMA—Uti Rogas

* MPC—Uti Rogas

*CPL—Uti Rogas

* QSP—Uti Rogas

* ATS—Abstineo “Based on public comments on this at least, I am not entirely certain that this is possible. Both the technical difficulties and those presented by the current host may make this impossible, at least within the stated time frame.”

* PUSV—Uti Rogas

==Item V- SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE PROVINCE OF ACTIVITY FOR THE JUNIOR CONSUL ==

===Proposal===

SENATUS CONSULTIUM ON THE PROVINCE OF ACTIVITY FOR THE JUNIOR CONSUL

The junior consul for the year 2769 A.U.C. is instructed by the Senate of Nova Roma to pursue the following items to a successful completion on or before the date indicated during his/her year in office. The junior consul shall post a progress report monthly to the Senate, by means of posting to the Senate list, detailing the steps he/she has taken to bring these items to a successful conclusion. Between December 1st and December 15th of 2769 A.U.C. the junior consul shall post his/her final progress report to the Senate list. If he/she has not brought any item below to a successful conclusion, then he/she will explain in detail to the Senate the reasons for his/her failure to do so.

===Results===

Uti rogas: 18

Antiquo: 0

Abstineo: 0

===Votes and discussions===

* CAC—Uti Rogas “A good objective so we can all as a community think the best path to our web presence.”

* PACP—Uti Rogas

* LCSF—Uti Rogas

* SCVIA—Uti Rogas

* QFM—Uti Rogas

* CnIC—Uti Rogas

* DIPI—Uti Rogas

* TIS—Uti Rogas

* ALH—Uti Rogas

* SLT—Uti Rogas

* CMC—Uti Rogas

* PoMS—Uti Rogas

* MMA—Uti Rogas

* MPC—Uti Rogas

*CPL—Uti Rogas

* QSP—Uti Rogas

* ATS—Uti Rogas “with some reservations”

* PUSV—Uti Rogas

Respectfully,

Publius Porcius Licinus