Selected messages in Nova-Roma group. Dec 1-25, 2015

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96653 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-12-02
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96654 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-02
Subject: Dictator Edicta regarding Official Fora and Album Civium
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96655 From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96656 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96657 From: cfabiuslupus Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96658 From: albmd323232 Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96659 From: Mark Andrew Holmes Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96660 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96661 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96662 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96663 From: cmc Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: response to the Dictator's first update
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96664 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: response to the Dictator's first update
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96665 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: San Bernardino shooting
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96666 From: Mark Andrew Holmes Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: San Bernardino shooting
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96667 From: cmc Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: San Bernardino shooting
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96668 From: lucius.livius Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96669 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Reminder on new email address policy
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96670 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: (no subject)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96671 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 010
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96672 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: request for ideas and input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96673 From: Lucius Livius Seneca Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: Re: request for ideas and input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96674 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: Re: request for ideas and input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96675 From: dnautius Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96676 From: alectocles Date: 2015-12-06
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96677 From: dnautius Date: 2015-12-06
Subject: Re: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96678 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-07
Subject: Implementation of Edict
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96679 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-08
Subject: Hanukkah
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96680 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-12-08
Subject: Re: Hanukkah
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96681 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-08
Subject: Re: Hanukkah
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96682 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Games :)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96683 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Games :)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96684 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Games :)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96685 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Games :)
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96686 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96687 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96688 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96689 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96690 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-10
Subject: Total War Humble Bundle sale
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96691 From: Tiberius Iulius Nerva Date: 2015-12-10
Subject: OATH OF OFFICE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96692 From: Tiberius Iulius Nerva Date: 2015-12-11
Subject: OATH OF OFFICE
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96693 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2015-12-15
Subject: The Collegium Pontificum session resume.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96694 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-15
Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 011
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96695 From: dnautius Date: 2015-12-15
Subject: Re: Oath of Office
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96696 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2015-12-16
Subject: SATVRNALIA, Thursday, 17 December 2015
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96697 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: It's time . . .
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96698 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: Re: It's time . . .
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96699 From: xai776@yahoo.com Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] It's time . . .
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96700 From: cmc Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: Re: It's time . . .
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96701 From: Jim Hooper Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: Fw: [Nova-Roma] It's time . . . IO STATURNALIA
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96702 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: Re: It's time . . .
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96703 From: lucius.livius Date: 2015-12-17
Subject: Re: It's time . . .
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96704 From: ccgianni Date: 2015-12-21
Subject: Season's greetings
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96705 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-22
Subject: Steam Sale
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96706 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-22
Subject: Re: Steam Sale
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96707 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-22
Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 12
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96708 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-22
Subject: Re: Steam Sale
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96709 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-23
Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 013
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96710 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-23
Subject: Recommendations for changes
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96711 From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas Date: 2015-12-23
Subject: Intention to Call The Senate
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96712 From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas Date: 2015-12-24
Subject: Re: Intention to Call The Senate
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96713 From: Majikpig@gmail Date: 2015-12-25
Subject: Sol Invictus



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96653 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-12-02
Subject: Oath of Office
Sta.Cornelia Aeternia Omnibus in foro SPD

I, Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia (K. Jennifer Harris), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

I, Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia  (K. Jennifer Harris ), accepting the office of Praetor,  swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia  (K. Jennifer Harris ), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia  (K. Jennifer Harris ), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Statia Cornelia Valeriana Iuliana Aeternia  (K. Jennifer Harris ), further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Praetor to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Praetor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96654 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-02
Subject: Dictator Edicta regarding Official Fora and Album Civium
Avete Omnes,

Working to comply with the recent Dictatorial Edicta the Praetura and I are working to implement the Edicta to practice.  To that end most of you, subscribers of the ML and Announce list will be receiving individual messages to resolve the address issues so that the Album Civium email address matches the address subscribed to the Official Fora.  The purpose of this message is multi:

1.  To inform the subscribers of the list of the coming correspondence, if needed (and so far about 90% of the subscribers are being contacted and I am just at the C's)

2.  To you, the subscribes a head start to change either the Album Civium email address or to change the address on Yahoogroups.

The key part of this is that once private correspondece is sent there will be a 5 day period from which if there is no response that the email address that is not in compliance will be unsubscribed from the ML.

If there are other issues we will strive to work them out.  

Some of the interesting facts I have uncovered is that there are dead citizens who are still subscribed to the ML and what is even more interesting is the email address in question was not bouncing.  That address has now been removed.

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96655 From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Request for Ideas and Input

Gaius Popillius Laenas Consul omnibus in foro SPD –

 

As Junior Consul, one of my projects is to sponsor discussions on what innovations cives would like to see on the Nova Roma website.  So…that is what I am doing.

 

Please give me your ideas and feedback on how we can improve the website or on technological innovations in general.  There are no restrictions; we can put almost anything on our “nice to have” list.  What we will be able to accomplish will depend on several factors: technical feasibility, know-how and knowledge, budget and sustainability.  Once we have our “nice to have” list, we can consider what is desirable, what can be done, time frames, etc.  But, we have to have the list before we can start.

 

We are willing to make investments to develop a truly good platform and tools, so do not be shy making suggestions in those areas.  We are not just collecting taxes and donations to pile up money; we want to accomplish some of our goals with it.

 

In line with the above, we will be seeking volunteers with technical skills, graphic design skills, etc. to work on the projects selected (some cives have already volunteered).  Volunteering will be an opportunity to be a driver on the chosen projects.

 

I have been a cive of Nova Roma for 15 years.  This period of rebuilding and reconstruction is like nothing I have ever experienced before.  Many of the ideas we are hoping to implement are very exciting.  Now is the time and opportunity to add your ideas to the list.  Now is the time we have a window within which we can actually accomplish things that will move us closer to Nova Roma’s goals.

 

Finally, we do not want to repeat some mistakes of the past by rushing and foregoing planning.  However, we are serious about putting in the work to make these improvements happen.

 

So post your ideas here and we can begin some discussion.  I am not particularly technical myself, so posting in the Forum will let others add their ideas to yours.  If you are especially shy, you may message me at gaiuspopilliusATgmailDOTcom with your ideas.

 

Instead of the dice, let the ideas fly high!


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96656 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Ave Consul,

I know some of this has been mentioned before but here is what I would like to see:

I.  The adoption of a message board that would, in the event of a post being made there, a copy would be sent to the official Fora of Nova Roma.  This would enable the subscribers of the official fora to not have to take any other effort to keep informed of the conversation within the official Fora.

II.  Ideally I would like the same concept to work in reverse in which messages on the official fora could appear in the message board or at the very least an appointed magistrate from the Praetors office to post important messages on the official fora to the message board.

III.  I would love to have a fully functioning chatroom again.  One that would advertise market day chats again and one where there are sufficient controls that if someone abuses the chatroom the members in the chatroom could administer it, this is what we had before and it worked great.  

IV. NR used to have a website that advertised the various IM programs and handles of its citizens and I would really like to revise that page as it would enable citizens to keep in touch outside of just using email.  This was something that NR promoted about 15 years ago and could be a huge asset again.

Just some thoughts for now.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96657 From: cfabiuslupus Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Salve Consul!

We might think about an online shop for Roman items: jewelry, clothes (togae, tunicae), insignia, flags, citizen ID cards, statues, books, accessories for the lararium etc.
NR could even earn some money through it.

And - sorry, I have to mention it again - a message board, even if it has no official status, just something to talk with other citizens without using this cumbersome Yahoo group.

Vale
C. Lupus
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96658 From: albmd323232 Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Salvete,

I just wrote a long message but yahoo crashed and deleted everything. Twice. Anyways, here are some thoughts in an abbreviated form.

I rarely log on or message, which has a lot to do with a lack of actual contacts (if anyone is in the Munich area and wants to meet up for a drink or visit to the antique sculpture museum, let me know) as well as the outdated yahoo groups feeling. Regarding the former, barring more in-person activities, a live chat function would be nice to make personal connections that one just cant do by hitting letters on the keyboard. In the age of facebook, I would definitely support the mailing list to transition over there...it is much user friendly and many people log on there daily anyways.

Another idea is to have the website host more pictures and info of Roman items that one can visit today that would be a helpful and informative repository. For instance, I have photographed virtually every object on display last October in the National Archaeological Museum in Naples (it took 7 hours) among many, many Roman related museums around the world and archaeological sites I have visited and would have no problem donating the extensive collection. (I was previously thinking about doing a blog like Following Hadrian.)

Lastly, a youtube channel would be nice showing rituals, processions, speeches, visits to sites, etc.

Valete,
D. Claudius Aquilius
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96659 From: Mark Andrew Holmes Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
I think we've got that already (the official marketplace). Bringing it back to life sounds like a good idea.

Noctua


From: "mortran@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Salve Consul!

We might think about an online shop for Roman items: jewelry, clothes (togae, tunicae), insignia, flags, citizen ID cards, statues, books, accessories for the lararium etc.
NR could even earn some money through it.

Vale
C. Lupus


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96660 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input

Ave,

Yes we do...it was in the process of being rebuilt up by Gn. Iulius.  But now it will likely be delayed given the vastly more numerous issues that are being worked on.

Also, Nova Roma has YouTube channels already with much of the content already listed as requested by D. Claudius. :)

I have also found my photos of the J.Paul Getty museum in California.   When I can I'll get them scanned.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96661 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
M. Lollius Labeo omnibus en foro SPD
 
What sort of chat room was used in the past? I've seen it referenced in respect to Market Day before, but did not see what program the chat was built with. 

There are informal methods we can use to hold a chat room, as a temporary or permanent measure. Has anyone here heard of or used Tinychat before? It's moderator/host friendly, allows for sharing of links and pictures, has a normal chat box, and also runs live video and voice chat for our more tech-savvy members, who can also run pre-recorded videos on their video feed. Best part is, it's free to run. Tinychat seems to have added a 'promote' feature since I last used it, which I would assume means that our room would be suggested to tinychat users looking for suggestions, and possibly more in-depth than just that, have not looked into that feature too deeply. We could chat amongst ourselves, and allow curious people to join and participate or ask questions. One of the feeds could incorporate what someone else already suggested, videos of sponsored events, religious practices, re-enactor outfit tips, etc. I believe that Tinychat deserves a looking-at for our purposes. 

 The only 2 downsides to tinychat that I've seen is, First, that it can be quite taxing on a slower computer to have all those video feeds going at the same time. My laptop back then would sometimes freeze up or BSOD from all the open video feeds. Do keep in mind that my experience was some 6-7 years ago now, they may have slimmed down their footprint.  Second, as the room we would have would be open to the public, you will occasionally get some jackass who jumps in and acts obnoxiously to disrupt the chat(this is why we can't have nice things). Luckily, moderator powers to silence and ban work quite effectively ;)

I am not sure if the room holds chat history for longer than a session, there may be new tools in place for that. They seem to have added mobile apps for iOS and Android as well.
I've never come to Tinychat as a corporate representative, perhaps they also work out deals with specific or paying customers. 

http://tinychat.com is the site. Please check it out for yourselves, creating or joining a room is free to do. 

Valete!
M. Lollius Labeo
America Cismississippiana 



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96662 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input
Caesar Sullae sal.

Amice, actually I think given some recent volunteers who have identified themselves I can activate that project and get people designing it. It will be assigned later this week,

I didn't have a chance yet today to brief you on that development, so here is the briefing :)

Optime vale




From: "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Ave,
Yes we do...it was in the process of being rebuilt up by Gn. Iulius.  But now it will likely be delayed given the vastly more numerous issues that are being worked on.
Also, Nova Roma has YouTube channels already with much of the content already listed as requested by D. Claudius. :)
I have also found my photos of the J.Paul Getty museum in California.   When I can I'll get them scanned.
Respectfully,
Sulla


On Dec 3, 2015 5:18 PM, "Mark Andrew Holmes mahtezcatpoc@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96663 From: cmc Date: 2015-12-03
Subject: response to the Dictator's first update
C. Maria Caeca Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

I am proposing to take up a fair amount of your time and attention, and I ask for your forbearance ahead of time, but I felt this is important enough to comment extensively. I have interspersed my commentary throughout the original post. CMC
Cn. Iulius Caesar Dictator sal.

I have been formulating the exact methodology necessary to create the new structure for Nova Roma, that separates the functions of the non-profit and the res publica. This is work in progress, but here is the general concept, based on Nova Roma Reborn (NRR).

So for those of you who glossed over this, or who have forgotten the thrust of NRR, Nova Roma will separate its functions. The non-profit corporation will be on one side. On the other side will be the res publica.

CMC: This issue has plagued us ever since I joined NR, and I have no doubt for years before that. We have tried, very hard, to walk a tightrope between having a Roman Republican Government that is at the very least strongly based on the ancient model, while at the same time, abiding by the rules and regulations of the State of Maine, which control our NFP corporation. Where there are conflicts, the State which holds our NFP status wins, as it must, every time. However, by separating the Corporation and the Res Publica, we can, in fact, have both a fully functioning Roman Republican Government, grounded in Roman law and tradition, and modified to work in our own time, AND a NFP corporation that can meet all State and Federal requirements. This separation protects both the NR Corporation and our Republic in many important ways.

In order to create arms length distance between the non-profit and its associated regulations (that have always conflicted with the needs of a res publica), another corporation will be created. I will call it Triumvirate Inc. for identity purposes and to save confusion (as I referred to it as Res Publica Inc. in NRR and some people got muddled between that and the actual res publica) This will be a private corporation. It will have a Board of Directors, chosen from members of this House, but not all (for reasons I will explain below). It will function essentially as the management company for the res publica, but it will not involve itself in daily management. it will be the fail-safe device in case the wheel falls off. That is explained further below.

CMC: While I had to keep firmly reminding myself that this is a name of convenience, used for identification purposes only, I understand why naming the management corp. Res Publica INC. can be confusing. In fact, though I thought I had them separated in my mind, I found that having 2 very separate names gave me a more clear picture of how the management corp. will work. I had very serious questions and concerns about the interactions of these 3 entities, including potentials for abuse which concerned me. However, I also acknowledge and fully understand that we simply cannot continue as we are and continue to grow, let alone prosper, so I decided, before speaking on this, to be absolutely sure I entirely understood, and had thoroughly considered this update. I had not, originally, intended to post my thoughts publicly, but I have changed my mind, in the hope that by seeing my process and conclusions, others might be inspired to contribute creative ideas, or, in correcting my errors, come up with even more workable and positive solutions.

The first thing I had to overcome was my initial, almost instinctive resistance to such sweeping changes. Reading about such things in a position paper, and seeing them take on substance and form are 2 very different things, and I found myself wondering if what was taking shape would have even the slightest resemblance to the organization I joined in 2006, and to which I have given both loyalty and effort. None of what I read felt even slightly familiar, and that, of course, was the problem. I had to leave my comfort zone, challenge my own assumptions about what we are, where we want to go, and how we could get there. Once I was able to forcibly pry the fingers of my mind from its stranglehold on the familiar, and accept that I would have to go into new territory, I was also able to begin a point by point unemotional and at least somewhat logical examination of what is being done, get some idea (perhaps) of how it will work, look for real, not imagined pitfalls, and even make a couple of relevant suggestions.

As a private corporation it is not subject to Maine laws on non-profits - thus freeing us finally from the incessant need to balance Roman law with the needs of a non-profit set of regulations. The function of running the res publica will be delegated by Nova Roma Inc. to this new entity. The linkage between the two corporations will be in the form of a service contract, which will place obligations on both sides; Nova Roma Inc. for example will commit to not interfering in the running of the res publica (obviously for so long as the terms of the service contract are adhered to) so we maintain the principles of Roman governance inside the res publica. The res publica in turn will have no control over funds or assets (though our assets - in the widest sense including Yahoo lists and not getting into "ownership" but ownership of assets in the sense we have custody of those lists - will be "loaned" to the management company for the use of running the res publica), which will only be controlled by an elected BoD that includes members directly elected by the members.

And this highlights some of my concerns. If Nova Roma Inc. has sole control of NR’s assets, especially our financial assets, then what is to prevent the BoD of NR Inc to arbitrarily impose its will on both the private corporation, and through it, on the Res Publica by simply withholding the funds necessary to meet our ongoing needs? Yes, I’ve been told that the private corp. can terminate the contract, but that isn’t likely, since doing so would mean that it, and the Res Publica would have to find a way to operate without any resources whatsoever, and that just isn’t going to happen. Also, if NR Inc “loans” such intangible assets as lists to the private corporation, what is to prevent the private corporation from micromanaging the Res Publica, making the Res Publica’s magistracies meaningless empty titles without any real authority? The BoD of the private corporation could, for example, simply decide to manage all lists, and relegate the Praetors effectively to being scribes, if that.

Actually, there are checks and balances that cover these scenarios, and they are contained in the fact that both boards of directors will contain members elected from the citizenry of nova Roma. The terms of membership on both boards will be limited to a specific time period, and, hopefully, the make-up of both boards will be such that no one clique or group of people can dominate either BoD and impose its will permanently. Also, in cases of drastic action, I expect that the majority necessary will be high enough that no small group of members can, for example, close the Senate. I also expect that there will be a mechanism through which the Senate, if necessary, (and again, with a super majority vote required) appeal directly to NR Inc. Question: will there be some sort of contractual agreement between the private corporation and the Senate of the Res Publica, spelling out the functions and duties both of the private Corporation and of the Magistrates and Senate of the Res Publica, along with the means of redress for each?

Nova Roma Inc <---- service contract ---
Nova Roma Inc. will become the outward facing side of the coin that is Nova Roma, being responsible for the administration of the USD funds, collecting what will now be termed membership fees (the issue of what members receive for those fees and thus the applicability of US citizens writing it off as a tax deduction is moot, as they have always received the right to vote. That isn't a tangible benefit as such), admitting new members via the database system currently termed the caesura tools, negotiating grant applications, striking Memorandum of Understandings with appropriate groups. A new Board of Directors structure will be created, using traditional corporate titles that are appropriate for a non-profit (being easily understood by regulators and the IRS). This will include Board members chosen from selected areas of the res publica, Senate, collegia etc. These institutions will choose their own members to go forward to the BoD of Nova Roma Inc. by means of internal elections and resolving it in the form of Senatus Consulta and decreta. Nova Roma Inc. will in turn organize an election where for the number of seats reserved on its board for directly elected members, candidates will be invited to step forward with appropriate nominations, and then an election run to fill those seats. The members can get direct input into the non-profit side this way. Very appropriate and normal for a non-profit. Both sides of the coin are thus represented on the new BoD structure of Nova Roma Inc. - the res publica components and the core membership. I will balance the structure to ensure that dominance by one side or the other on the NR Inc BoD is unlikely, and consensus will be required. Measures will be legislated in the founding documents to ensure that destructive politicking by demagogues does not occur within the BoD. Three year term limits will be set on all director positions on the NR Inc. BoD, and then they will have to stand for election again if they wish to continue. This will ensure turn over, fresh faces hopefully and a limitation on "empire building" inside the BoD, yet because the director positions will be staggered the BoD will not lose all its experience every three years and have to start afresh. Experience will be retained, and 1/3 of the BoD will face election each year.

CMC: And here is the balance that will make this concept work. The composition and staggered terms of BoD membership ensure that all interests will be meaningfully represented, and that no small group of individuals can hold the organization hostage and impose the will of a very few on the entire membership, directly or indirectly.

In order that a conflict of interest does not occur, no member of the BoD of Triumvirate Inc. will be able to serve on the BoD of Nova Roma Inc. Members of the Senate who are not members of the BoD of Triumvirate Inc. will be able to serve on NR's BoD (if elected) as they have no direct connection to Triumvirate Inc. Members of Triumvirate Inc's BoD can of course without impediment be members of Nova Roma and sit in this House.

So the role of Triumvirate Inc. is to provide a legal framework for a contract, for NR Inc. to be able to devolve its running of the res publica to it and thus free the res publica from Maine state non-profit restrictions (as the res publica and its entities won't control assets like USD $ funds, and finally as a failsafe. Why a fail safe? These recent events have demonstrated why. I envisage that Triumvirate Inc. will devolve its authority to the Senate for 99.99% of issues.

I would rather see this arrangement in a more tangible and permanent form than anyone’s vision, since most visions of how things are supposed to work are based on the concept of the envisioned and tend to be entirely in agreement with the creator’s views. I would hope that some sort of memorandum of understanding, or better, contractual agreement would exist between the private corporation and the Senate of the Res Publica, confirming that the private organization would devolve the day to day operations of the Res Publica to its duly elected Magistrates.

It will only be if the Senate is incapable or unwilling to control a situation of tumult, or a proposed course of action that threatens to conflict with the terms of the service contract (the obligations NR Inc. places) OR if a future Senate goes insane and tries to unbalance the system. This will become even less likely with other reforms I will be instituting, so it maybe that Triumvirate Inc. as an entity never has to involve itself in the affairs of the res publica because we collectively in the Senate and our descendants ;) will keep a firm grip on situations in future. It will be the red button that never has to be pressed. Dictators may come and go in the res publica, but if even that doesn't work then Triumvirate Inc. will have the ability to step in and reset the system. We cannot afford extreme gridlock and disorder and chaos putting us off track once we are on it.

CMC: And what is to prevent a majority of the BoD of the private corporation from manufacturing noncompliance with the terms of the contract between it and Nova Roma Inc. for the purpose of micromanaging the Res Publica and removing all authority from the Senate and Magistrates at will?

I am introducing two concepts (thanks to Gualterus for his Latin input): ius rei publicae Novae Romanae (the service contract spoken of above) and ius civitatis Novae Romanae. Ius as a concept here will be the expression of legal principles. It will lie outside of the scope of the legal code of the res publica.

It will NOT be able to affected by the institutions of the res publica, not even the Senate or comitia. Core concepts will be set in stone. So for example the institutions of the res publica will be established there, senate, collegial etc. the supremacy of the religio publica will be established there. Adherence to a Roman republican governance system will be included. Also the concept of the mos maiorum and the goals and purposes of Nova Roma (see Nova Roma Onward for those concepts relating to sovereignty and how we will define it) To this end Sulla is separating the components from the constitution that have to go to the non-profit side and those to the res publica side. As it will form a contract, even Nova Roma Inc's BoD will not be able to alter them. It will be a perpetual contract that will exist so long as its terms are adhered to. Naturally the expectation is the Senate here will ensure that nothing is attempted that breaches them, and as the fail safe, as described before, Triumvirate Inc. can step in ultimate cases to protect the principles of the ius rei publicae Novae Romanae.

CMC: this seems to be one of the most sensible proposals I have ever seen in my entire association with Nova Roma. I am still concerned that the private corporation can, by manufacturing violations where they do not exist, completely subjugate the Res Publica, and reduce it, its Magistrates and even its Senate to a meaningless role playing game, filled with nothing but rhetoric and empty titles, but I can also see how, if it works as designed, this would provide a strong foundation for the Res Publica and very clear vision for its management in perpetuity.

The ius civitatis Novae Romanae will be the terms of citizenship within the res publica. A person will be able to join Nova Roma Inc. but not necessarily participate in the res publica. This opens the door to those academics suspicious of what they see as "role playing" to participate without sullying their academic reputations. naturally the hope is that in these cases over the course of time they become more comfortable with the res publica and participate. So at the point someone joins NR Inc, and then elects to participate in the life of the res publica they will be required to assent to the terms of the ius civitatis Novae Romanae. These will be binding undertakings the citizen commits to, such as:

Undertaking to uphold and respect the provisions of the ius rei publicae Novae Romanae as inviolate
Undertaking that not a member of a competing organization
Undertaking to uphold and respect the legal code of the res publica
Undertaking to follow the directions of duly appointed magistrates and officials of the res publica
Undertaking that citizenship is contingent of acceptance and continued adherence to ius civitatis Novae Romanae
Undertaking to respect the Religio Romana
Undertaking re not engaging in conduct likely to harm to Nova Roma Inc. and/or Triumvirate Inc. and/or the res publica (includes misrepresentation, speaking as though authorized etc)
Undertaking to preserve and protect assets (inc. lists) that are identified as official lists of the res publica, and to surrender custody of same when lawfully required to do so

Note, this is an undertaking between the citizen and Triumvirate Inc. as the delegated legal manager of the res publica environment. Once they assent they will pass under the "authority" of the institutions of the res publica and its laws. Why this? To ensure we don't

get wrapped up in legalism over whether the laws of the res publica allow for this or that. From now on it will be cut and dried and the interpreters of any breache

s of these fundamental principles will be the institutions of the res publica first and ultimately if their view diverges from that of the BoD of Triumvirate Inc. (unlikely but theoretically possible) then the BoD of Triumvirate would have the final say. These are firm and fast terms of service for entry into the res publica, or citizenship requirements in our more Roman terms. Note citizens also agree to uphold the ius rei publicae Novae Romanae.

So the flow of members will be:

Nova Roma Inc <---- ius rei publicae Novae Romanae ---
Members ^^^^^ -----------------------------------------------
CMC: I had to read this section multiple times, because it appeared to me that the private corporation would completely subjugate all functions of the Res Publica, making all Magistracies and even Senate membership empty and meaningless. Seeing the “authority" of the Res Publica in quotation marks didn’t help, either, but I see how this will work, and how a member will move from acceptance in NR Inc to citizenship. I do wonder, though, what the functions of the Censura will be under this new regime.


What do we gain by this? The Constitution goes. Nova Roma Inc. will have one, but a much slimmer and corporate facing and focused one. Everything that is core for the res publica will be locked into the ius rei publicae Novae Romanae and ius civitatis Novae Romanae. The long and torturous Constitution will reduce to simple core concepts that don't have to face legal challenge, because the interpretation by the Senate or in extreme conditions by Triumvirate Inc is final. Also as stated "ius" will not lie within the purview of the res publica to alter on its own, Now while the ius rei publicae Novae Romanae cannot be broken unilaterally by either side, I will include a provision where it can be altered WITH CONSENT of all parties, Nova Roma Inc. BoD, Triumvirate Inc BoD and the Senate of the res publica. We must allow for developments unforeseen, but the bar to changing it will be set high with extraordinary majorities being required.

CMC: I would like to present 2 metaphors that I used (I think successfully) to understand the relationships of Nova Roma Inc., the private management corporation Triumvirate Inc and the Res Publica. Just as the ancient legions were deployed along the borders of the Republic and Empire to patrol against Barbaric invasion, NR Inc patrols our “borders” and deals with such Barbarians as the IRS and the State of Maine, who neither understand nor care about our culture, or about what we are attempting to do. In fact, NR. Inc. is our first line of defense, because it can deal with other entities on their own terms and in their own “language”, and can ensure that our corporation is in full compliance with the laws and regulations under which any NFP corporation must function.

Triumvirate Inc, the management corporation is like the Pomerium that guards the sacred precincts of Rome itself, and, like Janus, has 2 faces. One looks to the outside world and deals with NR Inc, and is ultimately accountable for the good management of all functions of the Res Publica in general terms, and the other face looks inward to ensure that the Magistracies of the Res Publica function as they were designed to function, and that the Senate sets policies that will not create legal macronational problems for Nova Roma Inc that would endanger our NFP status, or that any institution attempt to hijack the Res Publica for any reason.

At the heart of this structure is the Res Publica (and this is what draws us, and keeps us, here). With these protections, it will be free to create what we have always wanted, a viable, fully functioning Roman Republic, modified to meet the needs of our modern time in ways that our ancestors might have used, had the Republic survived into this century.

I also used the metaphor of a cake composed of 3 horizontal rings, one inside the other, with the Res Publica being at the center of the cake. Both, in their way, helped me to envision what is being constructed, and how each part is interdependent on each other part to be meaningful and fully functional.

At this point those here who are contemptuous of any emotional content should probably stop reading , because I wouldn’t be me if I didn’t express my feelings. If I could, I would look directly into each of your eyes, and take your hands, and say “please, listen to me now, because I think this is important.” Yes, I have expressed concerns, and yes, I may have asked some pointed questions, but do not confuse minute examination with opposition. This initiative is the first step in a process that, once fully implemented, will allow us to accomplish the original intentions of the Founders of Nova roma, and this plan will also protect our assets, our status and allow us to expand and evolve into what we should become. But the first thing we need to do, each of us, is to embrace these sweeping changes as the greatest adventure in the history of Nova roma, and not see them as threats, either on an organizational or even personal level. We can do this, because, before the Gods, we ARE ROMANS. So, my fellow citizens (and as such, my friends) I challenge you to move firmly, even joyously into the future this plan offers, and to help create something truly unique and wonderful. Let us build a new Nova Roma, one that will outlive us, be flexible enough to recreate itself should the need arise, yet also be true to its heritage, ancient and modern. But remember that none of this can be done by the actions or efforts of 1 or 2 people. It needs the full participation of each and every citizen, because the greatest balance we have against abuse of power does not lie in our laws, institutions or contractual agreements. It lies in citizens taking their responsibilities seriously, and becoming not observers, but fully committed participants. That means voting in every election, voting for every lex, debating and discussing (constructively) all issues, serving where work is needed to be done, and taking part in all aspects of our community life. Those who would abuse a system can do so only if the people who are part of that system, by their apathy and nonparticipation, permit it.
So this is enough for now. The details of the draft ius rei publicae Novae Romanae and ius civitatis Novae Romanae will be forthcoming.

Optime valete

I would like to thank any brave soul who has taken the time and trouble to read this extremely long post! I’d promise never to do this again, but, given the tasks upon which we have embarked, such promises would be empty. I do hope, though, that, at the very least, what I have written has sparked either additional questions, or better, creative ideas.

Valete quam optime!
C. Maria Caeca

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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96664 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: response to the Dictator's first update
Caesar Caecae sal.

You said "I would hope that some sort of memorandum of understanding, or better, contractual agreement would exist between the private corporation and the Senate of the Res Publica, confirming that the private organization would devolve the day to day operations of the Res Publica to its duly elected Magistrates."

I can confirm that is exactly what is intended. The terms and conditions of that devolution of power will be in writing for all to see, as will the clear circumstances where the BoD of Trimuvirate Inc would be compelled to act. I can surmise that would happen for example (one example of a few) where the Senate was out of control and was set on breaking the principles enshrined in the ius rei publicae Novae Romanae. 

Optime vale


From: "'cmc' c.mariacaeca@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
C. Maria Caeca Omnibus in foro S.P.D.

I am proposing to take up a fair amount of your time and attention, and I ask for your forbearance ahead of time, but I felt this is important enough to comment extensively. I have interspersed my commentary throughout the original post. CMC

Cn. Iulius Caesar Dictator sal.

I have been formulating the exact methodology necessary to create the new structure for Nova Roma, that separates the functions of the non-profit and the res publica. This is work in progress, but here is the general concept, based on Nova Roma Reborn (NRR).

So for those of you who glossed over this, or who have forgotten the thrust of NRR, Nova Roma will separate its functions. The non-profit corporation will be on one side. On the other side will be the res publica.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96665 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: San Bernardino shooting

Avete omnes,

My heart and prayers go out to those who were affected and impacted by the recent shooting in southern California.  I know the area in san Bernardino very well as its just miles from where I used to reside in Riverside and it was literally blocks from my sisters former residence.

Respectfully,

Sulla

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96666 From: Mark Andrew Holmes Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: San Bernardino shooting
I'm in San Bernardino. It happened on the opposite side of town from where I am, and I don't know anybody who got shot, but government offices and schools closed early the day of the shooting.

Sad.

Noctua



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96667 From: cmc Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: San Bernardino shooting

Salve Noctua!

 

I give gratitude to the Gods for your safety and well being, Civis!

 

C. Maria Caeca

Virgo Vestalis Maxima

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96668 From: lucius.livius Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input

Latine:


L. Livius Seneca C. Popillio Laenati cos. sal. dicit. Ego valeo. Noscens semper facilius require quam producere, ut civis simplex offero tamen consilia sperata mea:

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96669 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-04
Subject: Reminder on new email address policy
Cn. Iulius Caesar Dictator sal.

This is the first reminder concerning Dictatorial Edict 007. 


This applies only to Nova Roman citizens.

A new policy will shortly go into effect, whereby the email address recorded in your NR Album Civium account must match the email you use top subscribe to all Nova Roman official lists. You can therefore only use one address consistently for all such lists. Citizens should access their Album accounts and remind themselves what email is shown there, make any necessary changes either to the email recorded in the Album, or leave and re-subscribe from lists with one consistent email.

The Praetura staff are contacting by email those where the email address does not match, but do not wait for that email. Please make changes now to ensure uninterrupted access to the lists. After the expiry of the warning period, those who are still subscribed to a list with an email address which does not match the one in their Album account will be removed from the list. Re-subscription will not be possible until the required changes have been made.

Again, please act now and update your records accordingly.

This is the first reminder concerning Dictatorial Edict 008


This applies only to non-Nova Romans.

Non-citizens subscribed to the Nova Roma Announce list are reminded that at the expiry of the warning period, the list will be closed to non-citizens and those will be removed from the list.

Optime valete
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96670 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: (no subject)
DICTATORIAL EDICT 009
 
 
I, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, Dictator of Nova Roma, issue the following edict..
 
 
1.    Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus (citizen #15259) is forthwith and immediately appointed as legatus pro praetore of Provincia America Transappalachiana.
 
2.    This edict takes effect immediately.
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96671 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 010
DICTATORIAL EDICT 010
 
 
I, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, Dictator of Nova Roma, issue the following edict..
 
 
1.    Pursuant to section IV.C of the Lex Cornelia de linguis publicis, Marcus Cornelius Gualterus Graecus (citizen #3743) is forthwith and immediately appointed as interpres linguae Latinae.
 
2.    Lucius Livius Seneca (citizen # 15546) is forthwith and immediately appointed as a Latin translator and to assist Marcus Cornelius Gualterus Graecus.
 
3.    This edict takes effect immediately.


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96672 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: request for ideas and input

A. Tullia Scholastica L. Livio Senecae S.P.D. 


Maximo gaudio mihi est alium Latineloquentem videre, etsi usus tuus vocabulorum aliquorum insolitissimus est, ergo difficilis lectu.  Quia magistra sum, ut nonnulli bene sciunt, aliqua corrigam.  ;-)  Vocabulis quibus uteris insolita sunt; aliis uti solemus.  Ut puto, linguae Latinae vivae, sicut Sermoni Latino apud SLEU, numquam studuisti.  



Latine:


L. Livius Seneca C. Popillio Laenati cos. sal. dicit. Ego valeo. Noscens semper facilius require quam producere, ut civis simplex offero tamen consilia sperata mea:



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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96673 From: Lucius Livius Seneca Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: Re: request for ideas and input
L. Livius Seneca A. Tulliae Scholasticae salutem dicit.

Thank you for going through my post with your expert hand. I rarely have any opportunity for original Latin composition, so my skills are rather rusty. I'm smacking my head over some of those errors (how was I not declining my et ceteras?!). Anyways, I figure the only way to improve is by giving it a try, along with helpful feedback such as your own. As for my vocabulary, I have no doubt it appears odd to a true Classicist; my own education in Latin has covered everything from Augustan prose, to Renaissance humanism, to modern Ecclesiastical Latin, so unfortunately, I'm far from the pure, Ciceronian ideal.

I'm very much enjoying the res publica so far, and hope to see you around the Sodalitas Latinitatis.

Vale.

P.S. As a magistra of the Sodalitas Latinitatis, do you happen to know how I might add it to my page in the Album Civium, as I don't seem to have it as an option among the various sodalities?



On Saturday, December 5, 2015 3:19 PM, "' A. Tullia Scholastica' flavia@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Livio Senecae S.P.D. 

Maximo gaudio mihi est alium Latineloquentem videre, etsi usus tuus vocabulorum aliquorum insolitissimus est, ergo difficilis lectu.  Quia magistra sum, ut nonnulli bene sciunt, aliqua corrigam.  ;-)  Vocabulis quibus uteris insolita sunt; aliis uti solemus.  Ut puto, linguae Latinae vivae, sicut Sermoni Latino apud SLEU, numquam studuisti.  


Latine:

L. Livius Seneca C. Popillio Laenati cos. sal. dicit. Ego valeo. Noscens semper facilius require quam producere, ut civis simplex offero tamen consilia sperata mea:


Posted by: lucius.livius@...


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96674 From: A. Tullia Scholastica Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: Re: request for ideas and input
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Livio Senecae S.P.D. 

 

L. Livius Seneca A. Tulliae Scholasticae salutem dicit.

Thank you for going through my post with your expert hand.

You are quite welcome.  I often do something quite similar, given that I am teaching advanced Latin readings this year.  ;-) We are now working on Terentius…going backward in time.  

I rarely have any opportunity for original Latin composition, so my skills are rather rusty.

There is (or was) an all-Latin NR list, and a Romance and Latin language one, where you may practice with those who are at all levels of compositional skills.  I don't seem to have received the usual reminder notice from the Latin list, so perhaps it has been removed.  Outside of NR, there is the Grex, in which many of the finest Latinists in the world participate--along with those of lesser skills.  

I'm smacking my head over some of those errors (how was I not declining my et ceteras?!).

That, as you may be aware, is a very common error.  Students who remember to decline adjectives tend to decline one or another adjective in agreement with a noun, but not all of them…  :-(    A point to remember is that most third declension adjectives are i-stems, and have the ablative singular in -i rather than -e.  


Anyways, I figure the only way to improve is by giving it a try,

Yes.  

along with helpful feedback such as your own.

You might also wish to take one of my Latin courses, or one I used to teach, now on a different site.  

As for my vocabulary, I have no doubt it appears odd to a true Classicist; my own education in Latin has covered everything from Augustan prose, to Renaissance humanism, to modern Ecclesiastical Latin, so unfortunately, I'm far from the pure, Ciceronian ideal.

Most of us do not keep to the Ciceronian ideal when we write modern Latin.  Tully enhanced the Latin vocabulary substantially, often with Greek, but he did not have a computer or a cell phone or travel by train or airplane or even automobile, and was quite innocent of the wonders of electricity and batteries and many other such things.   He added much to the Latin vocabulary (which, as you probably know, is not large as languages go), but it is quite difficult to invent words for things which do not yet exist.  :-D Computatores, computatrices [machinae], gestabilia / mobilia, áéroplana, automobilia, ascensores, and many other things extremely familiar to us never crossed the Ciceronian mental horizon.  [These are respectively computers {computatores / computatrices}, cell phones{gestabilia / mobilia}, airplanes, cars, elevators].   You can learn a lot more modern Latin by attending a Latin immersion session, which are termed 'conventicula / septimanae Latinae / rusticationes,' and by taking the Sermo Latinus courses or those based on the nature method text, Lingua Latina per se Illustrata.  The conventicula and such involve a one-week Latin immersion, and are held in the summer in various locations in the US and Europe, and tend to require at least two years of previous Latin; the courses tend to be online, as are the Sermo ones, and start from the beginning. The Sermo text [Le Latin Sans Peine / Latein ohne Mühe / Il Latino senza Sforzo] will teach you some modern vocabulary, but even that text preceded computers and cell phones--and the standard English-Latin dictionaries are Franco-Prussian War vintage.  Nature Method apparently does not include modern terminology at all.  


I'm very much enjoying the res publica so far, and hope to see you around the Sodalitas Latinitatis.

Unfortunately, the sodalitates (all of them) are far too quiet.  

Vale.

P.S. As a magistra of the Sodalitas Latinitatis, do you happen to know how I might add it to my page in the Album Civium, as I don't seem to have it as an option among the various sodalities?

Are you formally a member of the Sodalitas?  One must be a member of the Sodalitas mailing list for this to happen. It may also be a censorial function, but membership in Latinitas requires membership in the mailing list, as is the case with most, if not all, of the sodalities.  For anything to happen on one's Album page, too, one must log in.  

Valé!  



On Saturday, December 5, 2015 3:19 PM, "' A. Tullia Scholastica' flavia@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
A. Tullia Scholastica L. Livio Senecae S.P.D. 

Maximo gaudio mihi est alium Latineloquentem videre, etsi usus tuus vocabulorum aliquorum insolitissimus est, ergo difficilis lectu.  Quia magistra sum, ut nonnulli bene sciunt, aliqua corrigam.  ;-)  Vocabulis quibus uteris insolita sunt; aliis uti solemus.  Ut puto, linguae Latinae vivae, sicut Sermoni Latino apud SLEU, numquam studuisti.  


Latine:

L. Livius Seneca C. Popillio Laenati cos. sal. dicit. Ego valeo. Noscens semper facilius require quam producere, ut civis simplex offero tamen consilia sperata mea:


Posted by: lucius.livius@...


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96675 From: dnautius Date: 2015-12-05
Subject: Oath of Office

D. Nautius Ahenobarbus omnibus S.P.D.


Ego, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse solemniter IVRO.


Ego, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, officio legati pro praetoris Americae Transappalachianae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.


Ego, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.


Ego, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, officiis muneris legati pro praetoris Americae Transappalachianae me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.


Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus legati pro praetoris Americae Transappalachianae una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.


Di vos incolumes custodiant!

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96676 From: alectocles Date: 2015-12-06
Subject: Re: Request for Ideas and Input

I have some experience with web design and editing and would be willing to serve if needed.

Noctua

---In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, <gn_iulius_caesar@...  
Ave,
Yes we do...it was in the process of being rebuilt up by Gn. Iulius.  But now it will likely be delayed given the vastly more numerous issues that are being worked on.
Also, Nova Roma has YouTube channels already with much of the content already listed as requested by D. Claudius. :)
I have also found my photos of the J.Paul Getty museum in California.   When I can I'll get them scanned.
Respectfully,
Sulla


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Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96677 From: dnautius Date: 2015-12-06
Subject: Re: Oath of Office
D. Nautius Ahenobarbus omnibus S.P.D.

My sincere apologies to my fellow citizens; I forgot to post an English translation of my oath, which I will now do:

"I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the senate of Nova Roma.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, as legatus pro praetore of America Transappalachiana, swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman virtues in my public and private life.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the state religion of Nova Roma and swear to never act in a way that would threaten its status as the state religion.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus, further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of legatus pro praetore of America Transappalachiana to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, I do accept the position of legatus pro praetore of America Transappalachiana and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto."

Di vos incolumes custodiant!
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96678 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-07
Subject: Implementation of Edict
Avete Omnes,

Beginning tomorrow those who have already been contacted by C. Cornelius Macer over 5 days ago and have not made any adjustments to be in compliance with the Edict published by Caesar will be removed from the official fora.

The first and second lists are composed of email addresses that start with the letter "a"

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96679 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-08
Subject: Hanukkah
Avete Omnes,

I wanted to take a moment to wish all of our fellow Jewish Nova Roman Citizens Good Yontiff and that they have a wonderful holiday!

Happy Hanukkah!!! :)

Respectfully,

Sulla
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96680 From: Robin Marquardt Date: 2015-12-08
Subject: Re: Hanukkah
Quadra Sullae avete omnes, s.p.d.
Happy holidays, happy hanukkah, salute saturnalia, et merry Christmas!
Tiberius Marcius Quadra


From: "Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
Avete Omnes,

I wanted to take a moment to wish all of our fellow Jewish Nova Roman Citizens Good Yontiff and that they have a wonderful holiday!

Happy Hanukkah!!! :)

Respectfully,

Sulla


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96681 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-08
Subject: Re: Hanukkah

Ave,

Thank you very much!  Right back to you :)  Have a wonderful saturnalia! :)

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96682 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Games :)
Avete Omnes,

I have found some games that might be of interest. :) Some of them are historical based games centered around ancient Greece.


Respectfully,

Sulla



Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96683 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Games :)
Salvete,


Main campaign centers around the Roman unification of Italy, though you can pick any faction. It begins shortly before the Roman unification of Latium. I own it myself; it is a challenging semi-historical Real-Time Strategy game, and I like it for the  city-by-city gameplay. 


Valete!
Labeo


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96684 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Games :)
Ave,

That game is on my wish list.  I am just waiting for it to go on sale.  I missed it when it was on sale over the Thanksgiving holiday. 

Respectfully,

Sulla

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96685 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Games :)
Salve, 
The AI is tough. Maybe I've gotten too used to turn-based strategy like Civ or Total War, my skills might just be rusty.  I can usually unify Latium fairly easily, but expanding is rough; Veii and the Volsci are not very placid neighbors and sometimes it's all I can do to hold them back while not emptying out my cities in the process, Quirinus save me if the Sabines then decide to attack, haha

Vale, 
Labeo
Sent from my iPhone

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96686 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Salvete omnes!


I don't suppose many of you are familiar with Japanese manga comics, but there is one in particular that I believe may be of interest.


The link at bottom is to a well-detailed, ongoing story about the lives of these two great generals of the Second Punic War, beginning to end, starting from the legend of Hannibal's birth as a child of Baal Hammon, continuing on to Scipio Africanus accompanying and later saving his father's life at the Battle of the Ticinus and beyond, ostensibly to the end of the war or their lives. The story is currently on Hannibal's plundering of Italy, just after the Dictator Fabius Maximus puts his great cunctation plan into effect. ;)
I'm pleased by the attention to detail and humanizing of these legendary figures, it is an enjoyable read. Read a few chapters, you will be pleasantly surprised.


Keep in mind that you read Japanese comics from right to left, the exact opposite of a normal Western book. It may take some getting used to, but it's well worth the story:


http://m.mangahere.co/manga/ad_astra_scipio_to_hannibal/c001/


Valete,


M. Lollius Labeo
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96687 From: Belle Morte Statia Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Salvete,

Have read it on occasion.  There are a small crowd of anime/manga fans in NR.  But we are here :-)

Valete bene,
Aeternia

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96688 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Ave,

I am sure there are plenty of anime fans on the Back Alley too. :)  Especially given our recent posts about Archer!  

Vale,

Sulla

Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96689 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-09
Subject: Re: Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal
Salve,

There's always a few of us lurking about. ;). Wouldn't be surprised to find a Sodalitas for it either! 


There is also the manga Historie, which focuses on the charmed yet cursed life of Eumenes, Macedonian King Phillip II's personal secretary and friend to Alexander the Great. It is another extremely well-detailed and amazing story. There were several battle scenes later on, of which's detail nearly took my breath away. it must take weeks to create them.
Link is below. 

Vale!
Labeo

On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Robert Woolwine robert.woolwine@... [Nova-Roma] <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96690 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-10
Subject: Total War Humble Bundle sale
Salvete omnes,

Humble Bundle has started another Total War Bundle, which, along with just about everything else in their discography, allows you access to Rome: Total War, Total War: Rome 2, Total War: Attila, their associated DLC, and gives you a Spartan Hoplites unit in Total War: Arena, for about $15 USD. I looked up the price of their full Total War Package offered on Steam, and this is about $75 cheaper than on the Store. If you add an additional $15, you get a Total War shirt.

If you are not familiar with Humble Bundle, you donate to charity to receive the games offered for a particular bundle at a much discounted price. The proceeds are split between charity and the developer of the games offered.
Sorry for the long link in advance:
https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly?utm_source=Humble+Weekly+Newsletter&utm_campaign=7b15e62845-Humble_Weekly_Bundle_Total_War_Encore&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1eba9e66b7-7b15e62845-163576493&mc_cid=7b15e62845&mc_eid=a63e3a4112


Valete!
Labeo
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96691 From: Tiberius Iulius Nerva Date: 2015-12-10
Subject: OATH OF OFFICE

English:


I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of legatus pro praetore of Marcomannia to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of legatus pro praetore of Marcomannia and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Latin:


Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse solemniter IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, officio legati pro praetoris Marcomanniae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva, officiis muneris legati pro praetoris Marcomanniae me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus legati pro praetoris Marcomanniae una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.


--
Tiberius Iulius Nerva

Legatus pro praetore Marcomanniae

Provincia Marcomannia
Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96692 From: Tiberius Iulius Nerva Date: 2015-12-11
Subject: OATH OF OFFICE

English:


I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of legatus pro praetore of Marcomannia to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of legatus pro praetore of Marcomannia and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.


Latin:


Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys), hac re ipsa decus Novae Romae me defensurum, et semper pro populo senatuque Novae Romae acturum esse solemniter IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys), officio legati pro praetoris Marcomanniae accepto, deos deasque Romae in omnibus meae vitae publicae temporibus culturum, et virtutes Romanas publica privataque vita me persecuturum esse IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys), Religioni Romanae me fauturum et eam defensurum, et numquam contra eius statum publicum me acturum esse, ne quid detrimenti capiat IVRO.

Ego, Tiberius Iulius Nerva (Jiří Rys), officiis muneris legati pro praetoris Marcomanniae me quam optime functurum esse praeterea IVRO.

Meo civis Novae Romae honore, coram deis deabusque populi Romani, et voluntate favoreque eorum, ego munus legati pro praetoris Marcomanniae una cum iuribus, privilegiis, muneribus et officiis comitantibus ACCIPIO.


--
Tiberius Iulius Nerva

Legatus pro praetore Marcomanniae

Provincia Marcomannia
Nova Roma
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96693 From: iulius_sabinus Date: 2015-12-15
Subject: The Collegium Pontificum session resume.

SALVETE!


The Collegium Pontificum resume the session starting with 09.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d. XVII Kal  Ian 2768 a.U.c (Wednesday 16 Dec 2015) until 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d . V Kal. Ian. 2768 a.U.c (Monday, 28 Dec. 2015).


The session schedule is:


1. Contio:

Starts with 09.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d. XVII. Kal Ian. 2768 a.U.c (Wednesday 16 Dec. 2015) until 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d. XI Kal. Ian. 2768 a.U.c (Tuesday, 22 Dec. 2015).


2. Vote:

Starts  with 09.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d IX Kal. Ian. 2768 a.U.c (Thursday 24 Dec. 2015) and ends at 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d V. Kal. Ian. 2768 a.U.c (Monday, 28 dec. 2015).


QUOD BONUM FAUSTVM FELIX FORTUNATUMQUE SIT POPULO ROMANO QUIRITIBUS


A. Items:


Item 1. Analyze of applications and appointment of lictors.

1.a  M. Lollius Labeo;

1.b T. Domitius Draco;

1.c Q. Fabius Labeo;

1.d Ti. Iulius Nerva;

1.e C. Octavius Tranquillius;

1.f  M. Pompeius Caninus.


Item 2. Application for priesthood: Q. Iulius Nepos.


Item 3. Application for priesthood: L. Marius Vestinus.


Item 4. The Collegium Pontificum set and approves the next year calendar letter.


Item 5.  The Collegium Pontificum elect a secretary for the first six months of the year 2759 a.U.c


Item 6.  The Collegium Pontificum determine the pontifex responsible of performing the piaculum in the name of the Nova Roman community on pr. Kal Ian 2768 a.U.c (Thursday 31 Dec 2015).


B. At item 1, vote is required for every lictor applicant.


C. The Collegium Pontificum members can add new matters to debate or items to vote during the contio but not later than 18.00 hr.(Rome time) on a.d XII Kal. Dec. 2768 a.U.c (Monday 21 Dec. 2015).


D. Proxy. A CP member who is unable to vote can give his proxy to another CP member during the contio.


E. The Collegium Pontificum session can be observed by the entire Nova Roman community at this address:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/collegium_pontificum_nr/


VALETE,

T. Iulius Sabinus

Pontifex Maximus   


Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96694 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-15
Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 011
DICTATORIAL EDICT 011
 
 
I, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, Dictator of Nova Roma, issue the following edict..
 
 
1.    Posting in a language other than English on any official forum, or official communication venue owned/moderated by the magistrates and/or officials of Nova Roma Inc, including those of the religious collegia, must be accompanied in the same post by a translation into English.
 
2.    Such a translation must be bone fide, not generated by a software driven translator (such as Google Translate), and within the scope of any already known and demonstrated, or reasonably deduced, abilities of the poster to provide accurate and comprehensive translations.
 
3.    Claims that a translation will follow, under a separate post (regardless of whether that occurs or not) constitute an aggravated violation of this edict.
 
4.    Translations not judged bona fide and deliberately so will be deemed an aggravated violation of this edict.
 
5.    Patently genuine attempts by a person for whom English is not a first or native language to translate into English will not be a violation of this edict, regardless of the accuracy of vocabulary/grammar usage, or the overall ability of a reader to comprehend the meaning of the post.
 
6.    The post, or any part thereof, must not be transmitted in any presentation format designed to limit, deceive or otherwise obfuscate any intended or actual recipient.
 
7.    Violators of the provisions of this edict will not be warned, but under Dictatorial authority must be removed immediately by the owners/moderators of the venue concerned and will not be re-subscribed until authorized by specific Dictatorial authority.
 
8.    A violator so removed from a venue who continues to post in further violation of this edict on other venues as specified at section 1 above will be removed from all such venues regardless of whether they have posted on them in violation of this edict, or not, and will be deemed to have committed an aggravated violation of this edict.
 
9.    Any poster determined to have committed an aggravated violation of this edict will suffer severe sanctions, to be decided on an individual basis.
 
10. The ultimate decision maker as to whether this edict has been violated is Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.
 
11. This edict takes effect immediately.
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96695 From: dnautius Date: 2015-12-15
Subject: Re: Oath of Office
D. Nautius Ahenobarbus omnibus S.P.D.

After being shown the legal format for oaths of office, I would make one further correction to my oath by adding my legal birth name:

"I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus (Ian Colin Griffin Lee), do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus (Ian Colin Griffin Lee) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus (Ian Colin Griffin Lee), swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus (Ian Colin Griffin Lee), swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Decimus Nautius Ahenobarbus (Ian Colin Griffin Lee) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of legatus pro praetore of America Transappalachiana to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of legatus pro praetore of America Transappalachiana and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto."

Di vos incolumes custodiant!
 
Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96696 From: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Date: 2015-12-16
Subject: SATVRNALIA, Thursday, 17 December 2015
Attachments :
    "SATVRNALIA" reminder
    When
    Thursday, 17 December 2015
    12:00 AM to 12:00 AM
    (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time - Dublin / Edinburgh / Lisbon / London
    Notes
    Io Saturnalia!! "...but suddenly shouted with one accord the well-known cry, 'Io Saturnalia'... " Cassius Dio LX.19.3 Today is the first day of Saturnalia!
    From
    Nova-Roma   Calendar
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96697 From: M. Pompeius Caninus Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: It's time . . .
    Io Saturnalia!


    Marcus Pompeius Caninus


    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96698 From: iulius sabinus Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: Re: It's time . . .
    Io Saturnalia!

    Sabinus

    "Every individual is the architect of his own destiny" - Appius Claudius

    --------------------------------------------
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96699 From: xai776@yahoo.com Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] It's time . . .
    Up Saturnalia!

    Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android device

    ----- Reply message -----
    From: "iulius sabinus iulius_sabinus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sabinus "Every individual is the architect of his own destiny" - Appius Claudius --------------------------------------------
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96700 From: cmc Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: Re: It's time . . .

    Salvete Omnes!

     

    IO Saturnalia!!!!  The best of the Holiday season to each of you and to your families!

     

    Valete bene!

    C. Maria Caeca

    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96701 From: Jim Hooper Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: Fw: [Nova-Roma] It's time . . . IO STATURNALIA


    On Thursday, December 17, 2015 5:52 AM, "'cmc' c.mariacaeca@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Salvete Omnes!
     
    IO Saturnalia!!!!  The best of the Holiday season to each of you and to your families!
     
    Valete bene!
    C. Maria Caeca


    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96702 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: Re: It's time . . .
    Io Saturnalia!! Wishing you all all a safe, festive, and enjoyable time 

    Caesar




    From: "iulius sabinus iulius_sabinus@... [Nova-Roma]" <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com  
    Io Saturnalia!

    Sabinus

    "Every individual is the architect of his own destiny" - Appius Claudius

    --------------------------------------------


    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96703 From: lucius.livius Date: 2015-12-17
    Subject: Re: It's time . . .
    Io Saturnalia! Happy feasting and revelry to all!

    - L. Livius Seneca
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96704 From: ccgianni Date: 2015-12-21
    Subject: Season's greetings

    Io Saturnalia!!!


    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96705 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-22
    Subject: Steam Sale
    Avete Omnes,

    Today Steam just published a list of their games on sale and there are over a thousand titles.  Most of the titles on my wish list are on sale.  If you are looking for games that have an ancient Rome scope there are plenty of sales including Rome Total War II for 75% off. 

    Enjoy!

    Vale,

    Sulla
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96706 From: M. Lollius Labeo Date: 2015-12-22
    Subject: Re: Steam Sale
    Salve, 

    I find this little video always so relevant to the steam sale imagery haha

    Happy deal-hunting, all!
    Labeo


    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96707 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-22
    Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 12
    DICTATORIAL EDICT 012
     
     
    I, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, Dictator of Nova Roma, issue the following edict..
     
     
    1.    The following leges are rescinded and forthwith shall have no legal effect, for the reasons indicated:
     
    a.    Lex Equitia de iurisdictione
    Reason: Redundant due to the Lex Cornelia de poenalis
     
    b.    Lex Equitia de tirocinio civium novorum
    Reason: The 90 day citizenship process was suspended by Senatus consultum
     
    c.    Lex Arminia de levandis censorum oneribus
    Reason: The process is an unnecessary statement of common sense and in any case will shortly become redundant as the process of access to the membership records has been altered by Senatus consultum, and due to the censorial functions in general being scheduled for revision.
     
    d.    Lex Labiena de praetoribus agendis in loco parentium
    Reason: The process is unused and thus redundant
     
    e.    Lex Arminia de officiis aedilium plebis
    Reason: Unnecessary restatement of common sense and additionally has financial implications that properly should fall under corporate oversight by the CFO acting on behalf of the Board of Directors.
     
    f.     Lex Vedia apparitoria
    Reason: The Decuria never were organized as intended, nor are likely to be, and the viators can in any case be appointed, if really required, as scribes with a custom title.
     
    2.    This edict takes effect immediately.
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96708 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-22
    Subject: Re: Steam Sale
    Ave!

    That is AWESOME and very very appropriate! :)

    Vale,

    Sulla

    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96709 From: Gnaeus Iulius Caesar Date: 2015-12-23
    Subject: DICTATORIAL EDICT 013
    DICTATORIAL EDICT 013
     
     
    I, Gnaeus Iulius Caesar, Dictator of Nova Roma, issue the following edict..
     
     
    1.    The following decreta are forthwith suspended until further Dictatorial Edict:
     
    Decretum collegii pontificum et augurum de iure auspicandi et tripudio
     
    Decretum augurum de auspicatione
     
    2.    Section VI.B.2.b.2 of the Constitution is forthwith suspended until further Dictatorial Edict. The presiding magistrate of the Senate, or of a comitia, will be the only person empowered to declare obnuntiatio.
     
    3.    This edict takes effect immediately.
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96710 From: Robert Woolwine Date: 2015-12-23
    Subject: Recommendations for changes
    Avete Omnes,

    Now that it has been just over a month since the Dictatorship has been instilled and we are in progress on many of the changes to NR.  I would like to take the time to open up another opportunity to recommend suggestions for improvements to Nova Roma. 

    We have a very unique opportunity to reform Nova Roma - the floor is open!

    Respectfully,

    Sulla
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96711 From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas Date: 2015-12-23
    Subject: Intention to Call The Senate

    Salvete -


    I thought I would post this here as I believe we have only one Tribune in office.


    Laenas


    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Gaius Popillius Laenas Consul Patres et Conscripti SPD


    CALL TO CONVENE A FORMAL MEETING OF THE SENATE IN SESSION -  Dec 24th - Jan 3rd

     

    SCHEDULE:

    09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME Dec 24th : Call to order. Debate period commences.

    09:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME Dec. 29th : Debate period ends.

    09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME Dec. 30th  : Call to vote. Voting period commences.

    09:01 PM MOUNTAIN TIME Jan. 2nd : Voting period ends.

    11:59 PM MOUNTAIN TIME Jan. 3rd : Call to close issued before this time.

     



    AGENDA:

    I.  Discussion and Endorsement of Dictatorship and actions so far taken.

     

    ATTACHMENTS:

    Nil currently. Initial draft Senatus consulta required for items to be
    put to the vote will be presented either at the time of the call to
    order, or by 09:01 PM Dec. 27th 2015. Any revised draft Senatus consulta
    will be presented in final form no less than 24 hours before
    commencement of voting.


    NOTES:

    A. Current tribunes to have standing right to speak at any time during
    this session. No prior permission required.
    B. Mountain time = GMT - 7 / CET - 8
    C. Presiding magistrate: C. Popillius Laenas.
    D. Any urgent items for inclusion on the agenda will be considered by
    the presiding magistrate before or during session. Email first to
    presiding magistrate with details and for permission re inclusion.
    E.  Calculations of the votes should be made on the 3rd of Jan after

    close of voting and before 09:01 PM on the 4th Jan. Tribunician

    session final report can continue after close of session.



    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96712 From: gaiuspopilliuslaenas Date: 2015-12-24
    Subject: Re: Intention to Call The Senate
    C. Popillius Laenas SPD

    The proposed Senate session is suspended.  There is no formal call.
    Group: Nova-Roma Message: 96713 From: Majikpig@gmail Date: 2015-12-25
    Subject: Sol Invictus
    Blessèd Dies Natalis Solis Invicti to you! And a Happy Christmas! Sol Lucet Omnibus!
    -Vestinus